Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage
It seems than at Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:52:25 -0500, Peter wrote: Time for valve guide seals -- at a steep rearward angle, oil covers the valve stems on the back cylinder (or two) and if you have worn valve guide seals (or more likely, worn guides) oil will get sucked down and burn. Make sure the drain hole in the back of the head is clear. If he's _backing_ up the hill, the oil will end up at the _front_ of the engine. Otherwise, this is a viable explanation. (just exchange the words front and back) -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] The Sprinter
Everything went well with the trip to the Victoria, BC Dragon Boat Festival. There were ten of us with all of our luggage and paddling gear, and everyone and everything fit without any problem. It was a wonderful ride, and everyone was comfortable. The AC was nearly too much until we figured out how to set the temperature. There's no problem keeping cool in it! It had no problem with the hills and did well on the highway. It returned a stunning 22MPG on the first tank which included 150 miles of mixed driving and some idling too. It's still only at 1/2 tank after nearly 300 miles of driving, so this one will probably be near 25MPG which is what my parents' Chrysler TC minivan gets with 4 people and 2 dogs in it! Can you tell that I'm happy with it? I hope that it holds up well for a long time. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 2006 Sprinter PV 1.5K miles, The Box ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Sprinter
So Star Box went alright did it, well the only concern would be the CDI system apparently they can be pricey to fix. Anyway good luck with it, may it give you many wonderful memories and few trips to dealer :-) Kevin Kraly wrote: Everything went well with the trip to the Victoria, BC Dragon Boat Festival. There were ten of us with all of our luggage and paddling gear, and everyone and everything fit without any problem. It was a wonderful ride, and everyone was comfortable. The AC was nearly too much until we figured out how to set the temperature. There's no problem keeping cool in it! It had no problem with the hills and did well on the highway. It returned a stunning 22MPG on the first tank which included 150 miles of mixed driving and some idling too. It's still only at 1/2 tank after nearly 300 miles of driving, so this one will probably be near 25MPG which is what my parents' Chrysler TC minivan gets with 4 people and 2 dogs in it! Can you tell that I'm happy with it? I hope that it holds up well for a long time. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 2006 Sprinter PV 1.5K miles, The Box ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ
It looks like a dog peed on the left rear tire. --R Robert Rentfro wrote: What do you reckon is wrong with this? http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/400626863.html Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ
Oooh, in that case, there's no way it's worth that kinda money. I'd only go $1049. Gary Thompson On 8/21/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like a dog peed on the left rear tire. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350 sdl spring removal
I rented Rusty's when I did the front suspension on Brunnhilde. I think it was the real deal. It was fairly straightforward except for having to ream out the hole a bit to fit the thing down there. http://www.constructivity.net/rebuilding_a_79_300td.htm --R Hendrik wrote: Did you use the official MB tool or like me got a copy? I had to 'modify' my 123 to get it in there. It's not rocket science to use, just a bit fiddly. However it makes removing those springs a lot easier and SAFER. Rich Thomas wrote: I don't know specifically about the 126, but on the 123 the thing slides down the hole in the fender well (I had to ream mine out slightly) and the plates slide in the spring coils down/up as far as you can get them, then screw it together and start cranking on the screw to compress the spring. All with proper respects of course to the energy stored in that compressed spring. --R Constantine N. Polites wrote: Does anyone have any photographs showing the Klann spring removal tool ( Kl 0021) being used on the front springs of the w 126? Constantine ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL musings
Tow dolly? --R Jim Cathey wrote: So I was thinking, How can I keep this car without getting killed? We just got back from a week's coastal vacation, and one of the things we talked about was how nice it would have been to have a toad over there. A convertible would have been particularly nice. Our truck is more than capable of handling a toad in addition to hauling the camper, if the car's brakes can be utilized. However that's not something you'd ordinarily do to a nice car, but a cheap SL isn't so much that you'd worry about it. And an SL is as small as you'd want to go for a practical toad for a family of three, plus some crap. It would also be highly unusual, which is good for me. There are difficulties, largely that the car has an automatic transmission. Though vintage MB's can be towed, it's not fast or far, the rear pump is apparently not up to the task of keeping things lubricated. I am very much against having to take a wrench to the flex disks in order to rig for towing. My wife would not be amused. It would really have to be simple to attach and detach, mechanics' work and/or trailers/dollies are right out. Two ideas: 1) Replace the transmission with a manual. Not easy, the parts probably don't even all exist. 2) Hook up an auxiliary electric hydraulic pump. It oughtn't need much flow. This would keep the guts of the transmission lubricated during the long haul. I'm assuming that something could be plumbed in at the cooler lines, and/or the test gauge ports. (An auxiliary electric vacuum pump would also take care of running the brake booster for when a brake servosystem was fitted.) Any thoughts? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ
If its really got less than 100,000 miles I'd guess the thermostat is stuck open and its all carboned up. I'd offer him $800, haul it home, diesel purge and run a tank or two through it on the highway in 4th. Mine smoked some when I first got it. I did the above and now it hardly smokes at all. -Curt Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:39:37 -0700 From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii What do you reckon is wrong with this? http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/400626863.html Bob R - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ
This is one I'd be prepared to drive back across the country. That'd get the carbon out of it. Of course I'm setting my plan for Sunday welding up the jack points on my 190D. It'll be my first time welding on a car... -Curt Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:48:09 -0700 From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've emailed the dude...we'll see what he says. Bob R. - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage
The joker in me says your car is always burning oil thats what OM616 means. Is the car actually burning oil, like is the oil level going down? I for one wouldn't worry about it until you're going through oil like the Exxon Valdez... -Curt Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:21:39 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Had a thought this evening as I backed out my driveway in the 240D. It's a fairly steep but short driveway. I notice that there is an unpleasant amount of smoke when I do this. I thought maybe it's just that I notice it since I'm backing into the exhaust. But tonight I smelled burning oil. Was wondering if somehow the angle of the car coupled with the inertia of moving backward could cause the engine to burn some oil? I don't know how this would specifically work, it's just a bit of general detective work. Brian 83 240D - Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Ski Iowa
What, Don, you've never heard of Fun Valley in Montezuma? They have all that stuff. When I went to college in Grinnell 30 years ago you could ski there from 5 pm to close--about midnight--for $5. Included ski rental and lift ticket, which at that time was a rope tow. Since upgraded to chairs. Hell of a time. There's at least one more ski hill down in the SE corner by Navoo, IL, as well, on the IA side of the river. Dan On Aug 20, 2007, at 9:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To the best of my knowledge, this is the only official ski slope (make snow, lights, etc.) in Iowa. And I must say, the owner picked the primo spot. The hill isn't that big but it is an impressive hill for Iowa. Has a chair lift and all. I am guessing maybe a two or three minute run to the bottom. Dan Weeks Freelance Writer and Photographer 515/279-4825 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL musings
Rich Thomas wrote: Tow dolly? Unless you get another dolly for the rear wheels, you'd have to either tow backwards (scary, especially when behind a trailer) or disconnect the drive shaft. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] citric acid
I sell Genuine Mercedes stuff, it is part # 000 989 10 25 and comes in a .5 kg container. The price is $14.00 per container, Mercedes recommends 2 per flush. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] citric acid Rusty, How do you sell it? Price? Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] citric acid I have it. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 4:44 PM Subject: [MBZ] citric acid I just looked through the archives-seems as if the consensus is about 1 pound of citric acid per gallon of H2O. Where does one buy citric acid? I tried the local pharmacy today and they didn't carry it. IIRC, my mother used to use it when canning peaches. Anyway time to flush the Green Goddess and get the green stuff out of there and some Zerex -05 Thanks, Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles (Green Goddess) 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welding
Of course I'm setting my plan for Sunday welding up the jack points on my 190D. It'll be my first time welding on a car... Make sure you have a charged hose nearby! I like to drape wet rags in the area to limit the spread of heat. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ
probably a blown head gasket, or at least the start of one. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:39 PM Subject: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ What do you reckon is wrong with this? http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/400626863.html Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL musings
Tow dolly? Right out. Our main trouble is that we often end up in some places where towing a trailer(-ette) is impractical/impossible. Especially since my wife won't do it. With a pure toad, once you pull the pin you have two independent drivable vehicles, and no pesky trailer to get in the way. I like the toad idea, I'm just not sure a 107 can be turned into one. Anybody know enough about these AT's to know if external lubrication is what it would take to survive? Or is it something else that kills them when you tow too far? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Rocker switch
Yep, Jim, I also realized overnight I can print the black background of the icon on transparent plastic, leaving the icon for light to shine thru just like original. Thanks Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL musings
Jim Cathey wrote: Tow dolly? Right out. Our main trouble is that we often end up in some places where towing a trailer(-ette) is impractical/impossible. Especially since my wife won't do it. With a pure toad, once you pull the pin you have two independent drivable vehicles, and no pesky trailer to get in the way. I like the toad idea, I'm just not sure a 107 can be turned into one. Anybody know enough about these AT's to know if external lubrication is what it would take to survive? Or is it something else that kills them when you tow too far? -- Jim All you need to keep the engine running to drive the front pump. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ
Robert Rentfro wrote: What do you reckon is wrong with this? http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/400626863.html B\Almost surely a blown head gasket between the #1 piston and the chain vault Rather common with early OM60x engines. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage
Zoltan Finks wrote: Had a thought this evening as I backed out my driveway in the 240D. It's a fairly steep but short driveway. I notice that there is an unpleasant amount of smoke when I do this. I thought maybe it's just that I notice it since I'm backing into the exhaust. But tonight I smelled burning oil. Was wondering if somehow the angle of the car coupled with the inertia of moving backward could cause the engine to burn some oil? I don't know how this would specifically work, it's just a bit of general detective work. You need valve seals or guides AND seals. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL musings
All you need to keep the engine running to drive the front pump. Well yes, but having the toad idling away back there for hundreds of miles does not thrill me! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350 sdl spring removal
Hmmnh, I would have thought the 'official' factory spec tool would fit without 'modifications'. Anyway I didn't have to grind off much to get it in there and gave it a coating of POR 15 afterwards. Rich Thomas wrote: I rented Rusty's when I did the front suspension on Brunnhilde. I think it was the real deal. It was fairly straightforward except for having to ream out the hole a bit to fit the thing down there. http://www.constructivity.net/rebuilding_a_79_300td.htm --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Alignment Time
Hendrik wrote: My local authorized semi independent MB workshop informed me a while back that they don't do wheel alignments any more. However I found a place that knows how to do Benzes and it only cost me 35 Aussie beans. Car drives straight, steering wheel is straight but I haven't done enough k's to determine whether wear is equal. If you don't have problems DO NOT get the car aligned just to be sure. Good chance you'll make things worse!! Over 200kmi my cars usually have needed ONE alignment on average (but some have required NO alignments and others have needed two or three - usually because at least one was improperly done).. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welding
It is a good idea to disconnect the battery and make sure you have a ground near the weld, even on a Diesel you can fry electrics with a welder. Jim Cathey wrote: Of course I'm setting my plan for Sunday welding up the jack points on my 190D. It'll be my first time welding on a car... Make sure you have a charged hose nearby! I like to drape wet rags in the area to limit the spread of heat. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Alignment Time and steering box adjustment
Don't worry Marshall, she was way out of whack. I have been progressively fixing things on the front end for a while and finally got around to replacing the rubber bearings top and bottom. The alignment mechanic gave me a written report on before and after the job and it most definitely needed doing. Also the tires where wearing badly, which is an indication that things are not right. Now the front end is pretty right except for an adjustment to the steering box but I think I'll leave that to an expert, right? I have read the factory manual and it states to use a torque bar on the steering wheel to get it right, someone with experience could probably do it by feel but I am not that experienced. Hendrik Marshall Booth wrote: Hendrik wrote: My local authorized semi independent MB workshop informed me a while back that they don't do wheel alignments any more. However I found a place that knows how to do Benzes and it only cost me 35 Aussie beans. Car drives straight, steering wheel is straight but I haven't done enough k's to determine whether wear is equal. If you don't have problems DO NOT get the car aligned just to be sure. Good chance you'll make things worse!! Over 200kmi my cars usually have needed ONE alignment on average (but some have required NO alignments and others have needed two or three - usually because at least one was improperly done).. Marshall ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ
Kaleb, up for a road trip and repair?? I'm off Thurs-Sat. On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:39:37 -0500, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you reckon is wrong with this? http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/400626863.html Bob R -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage
How much oil useage can worn valve guides cause? On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:20:14 -0500, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zoltan Finks wrote: Had a thought this evening as I backed out my driveway in the 240D. It's a fairly steep but short driveway. I notice that there is an unpleasant amount of smoke when I do this. I thought maybe it's just that I notice it since I'm backing into the exhaust. But tonight I smelled burning oil. Was wondering if somehow the angle of the car coupled with the inertia of moving backward could cause the engine to burn some oil? I don't know how this would specifically work, it's just a bit of general detective work. You need valve seals or guides AND seals. Marshall -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ
That is my feeling too, if as described it all of a sudden started blowing blue/black smoke, which means one or more cylinders is not firing properly (black smoke) and oil is getting into a combustion chamber (blue smoke). If it was valve stem seals or cylinder rings it is usually a gradual process. However replacing a head gasket is no biggy (especially on a non turbo engine) and any good DIYer should be able to do it, or take it to a good indy. Also while the head is off you can inspect the piston bores to judge their condition, given the mileage they should be perfect. Once that is fixed you have a nice cheap to run car, which with a manual should be good to drive. Marshall Booth wrote: B\Almost surely a blown head gasket between the #1 piston and the chain vault Rather common with early OM60x engines. Marshall ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage
That depends how bad they are, I have heard stories of cars using liters of oil per 100ks, however from personal experience it is nothing unmanageable. I had a Missingbitzi 4 cylinder petrol car that had leaky valve stem seals in all the time I owned it and from memory I put about 1 litre for every 500k's into it or in other words 1 liter every time I fueled up. Luther wrote: How much oil useage can worn valve guides cause? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Alignment Time and steering box adjustment
Hendrik wrote: Don't worry Marshall, she was way out of whack. I have been progressively fixing things on the front end for a while and finally got around to replacing the rubber bearings top and bottom. The alignment mechanic gave me a written report on before and after the job and it most definitely needed doing. Also the tires where wearing badly, which is an indication that things are not right. Now the front end is pretty right except for an adjustment to the steering box but I think I'll leave that to an expert, right? I have read the factory manual and it states to use a torque bar on the steering wheel to get it right, someone with experience could probably do it by feel but I am not that experienced. You can tackle the steering box without doing damage if you are careful! Loosen the lock nut with the adjusting nut held in place. If the box is loose, turn the adjusting screw counter clockwise (I know that ccw is counter intuitive, but that reduces play) maybe 1/4 turn. Note EXACTLY how far you turned it so you can return it to exactly where it was before you started if things don't improve or get worse. Keep adjusting 1/4 turn at a time. Then check the wheel play. If you feel a notch in the center when turning the wheel or the wheel is slow to straighten after making a turn, the box is much too tight. If the box is too tight wear will skyrocket. You must NOT try to reduce the play (measured at the steering wheel) in a used box to less than 10-12 mm. Maximum allowable play is 25 mm. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage
Luther wrote: How much oil useage can worn valve guides cause? As much oil as you've got when it gets bad enough! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage
Bad enough is being able to wiggle 3 of the stems back and forth by hand? On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:50:47 -0500, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luther wrote: How much oil useage can worn valve guides cause? As much oil as you've got when it gets bad enough! Marshall -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage
Well look at it this way, you just change the filter and add oil. Think of the time you will save if you never need to recycle the used oil. That reminds me, I just resealed my 117 motor in the 560SEL, but forgot to replace valve guide seals. I guess I will need to do that next year. The 117s need them around 150-180k miles. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 10:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage Luther wrote: How much oil useage can worn valve guides cause? As much oil as you've got when it gets bad enough! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage
This could also be a failing diaphram in the vacuum pump. Ask me how I know. --- Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need valve seals or guides AND seals. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Check out Mercedes S-Class vs. Smart
This is pretty awesome. Click http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3213423318028641027q=mercedestot al=26912start=10num=10so=0type=searchplindex=0 here: Mercedes S-Class vs. Smart Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL musings
They make driveshaft de-coupler kits for toads, along with brake actuators for the cars brakes. Dig around the RV sites and you'll find them.. For the driveshaft, you'd wind up with an extra lever in the car to disconnect the driveshaft , then you don't have to worry about the tranny. ---Robert Jim Cathey wrote: So I was thinking, How can I keep this car without getting killed? We just got back from a week's coastal vacation, and one of the things we talked about was how nice it would have been to have a toad over there. A convertible would have been particularly nice. Our truck is more than capable of handling a toad in addition to hauling the camper, if the car's brakes can be utilized. However that's not something you'd ordinarily do to a nice car, but a cheap SL isn't so much that you'd worry about it. And an SL is as small as you'd want to go for a practical toad for a family of three, plus some crap. It would also be highly unusual, which is good for me. There are difficulties, largely that the car has an automatic transmission. Though vintage MB's can be towed, it's not fast or far, the rear pump is apparently not up to the task of keeping things lubricated. I am very much against having to take a wrench to the flex disks in order to rig for towing. My wife would not be amused. It would really have to be simple to attach and detach, mechanics' work and/or trailers/dollies are right out. Two ideas: 1) Replace the transmission with a manual. Not easy, the parts probably don't even all exist. 2) Hook up an auxiliary electric hydraulic pump. It oughtn't need much flow. This would keep the guts of the transmission lubricated during the long haul. I'm assuming that something could be plumbed in at the cooler lines, and/or the test gauge ports. (An auxiliary electric vacuum pump would also take care of running the brake booster for when a brake servosystem was fitted.) Any thoughts? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage
That reminds me, I just resealed my 117 motor in the 560SEL, but forgot to replace valve guide seals. I guess I will need to do that next year. The 117s need them around 150-180k miles. At least it's fairly easy to do those in place, no need to remove the heads. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL musings
They make driveshaft de-coupler kits for toads, along with brake actuators for the cars brakes. Dig around the RV sites and you'll find them.. For the driveshaft, you'd wind up with an extra lever in the car to disconnect the driveshaft , then you don't have to worry about the tranny. I've seen some of that stuff, but we're talking about goodies that exceed the value of the car. I was hoping to come up with a clever way, preferably using microwave oven parts, to do it cheaply. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL musings
On 8/21/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They make driveshaft de-coupler kits for toads, along with brake actuators for the cars brakes. Dig around the RV sites and you'll find them.. For the driveshaft, you'd wind up with an extra lever in the car to disconnect the driveshaft , then you don't have to worry about the tranny. I've seen some of that stuff, but we're talking about goodies that exceed the value of the car. I was hoping to come up with a clever way, preferably using microwave oven parts, to do it cheaply. Replace the rear end with a U-Pull-It front axle from a 4WD truck with manually locking hubs? ;) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350 sdl spring removal
Hendrik wrote: Hmmnh, I would have thought the 'official' factory spec tool would fit without 'modifications'. I think Rusty has the SIR tool, which is very close to the Klann tool, but maybe the shaft is larger? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL musings
Jim Cathey wrote: I've seen some of that stuff, but we're talking about goodies that exceed the value of the car. I was hoping to come up with a clever way, preferably using microwave oven parts, to do it cheaply. Warn locking hubs? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL musings
Harbor Freight had those rollabout things on sale, put a couple of those under the rears! --R Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: Tow dolly? Unless you get another dolly for the rear wheels, you'd have to either tow backwards (scary, especially when behind a trailer) or disconnect the drive shaft. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL musings
On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 12:16:44PM -0400, Mitch Haley wrote: Jim Cathey wrote: I've seen some of that stuff, but we're talking about goodies that exceed the value of the car. I was hoping to come up with a clever way, preferably using microwave oven parts, to do it cheaply. Warn locking hubs? Might as well just drop the thing on a CJ-5 chassis. Should be pretty close to the same wheelbase :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welding
Have a couple of old microwave ovens and shoegoo standing by. --R Jim Cathey wrote: Of course I'm setting my plan for Sunday welding up the jack points on my 190D. It'll be my first time welding on a car... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage
How do you know? --R Zach wrote: This could also be a failing diaphram in the vacuum pump. Ask me how I know. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350 sdl spring removal
You aren't supposed to talk about those things anymore. ---R Mitch Haley wrote: Hendrik wrote: Hmmnh, I would have thought the 'official' factory spec tool would fit without 'modifications'. I think Rusty has the SIR tool, which is very close to the Klann tool, but maybe the shaft is larger? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ
I am only off sat and sun --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ Kaleb, up for a road trip and repair?? I'm off Thurs-Sat. On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:39:37 -0500, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you reckon is wrong with this? http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/400626863.html Bob R -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage
If the oil sloshes forward while the car is tilte4d forward it can briefly pool behind the vacuum pump diaphram, if there is a crack in the rubber it can get sucked through and be pumped into the intake with a resulting cloud of smoke... In my case it was while going down a steep hill and then slowing down suddenly, the quantity was sufficient to make the engine run uncontrolled on the motor oil with a corresponding cloud of smoke... -Zach --- Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you know? --R Zach wrote: This could also be a failing diaphram in the vacuum pump. Ask me how I know. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Adding Auxiliary Input to a Car Stereo
This guy hacked his cheap sound system and added an aux input. Looks fairly simple. --R http://donn.dyndns.org/projects/carstereoinput/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A/C Question
Where is the expansion valve located? -Dave Walton On 8/20/07, Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plan on changing a couple of O-rings in the A/C lines. After changing the o-rings and secure the fittings, what is the next step to recharge the system? TIA Bill 1981 300 TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A/C Question
dave walton wrote: Where is the expansion valve located? -Dave Walton Depends on which car. The expansion valve on the 124 is between the firewall behind and inboard of the brake booster. On the 126 I expect it's still behind and above the brake pedal (and an absolute BEAST to work on). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage
It's not using much oil at all. I have a leak at the oil filter lines that attach to the block. And with this, the level goes down maybe a pint every, well, so often. I don't put many miles on the thing - I try not to drive very much. Am fortunate enough to be able to bicycle much more than I drive. Another note: I recently added oil. The level was just above the add mark, and this with the engine completely cold and not run for a day or so. So I assumed that if it were to be run and cooled and the level checked, the level would be a bit lower. So I intended to add a pint, which I thought would bring the level up to half way between the add and full marks - where it should be, right? But I accidentally added 2/3 of a quart. So perhaps its being a bit fuller than it likes contributes to the described smoking condition? Brian 83 240D On 8/21/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The joker in me says your car is always burning oil thats what OM616 means. Is the car actually burning oil, like is the oil level going down? I for one wouldn't worry about it until you're going through oil like the Exxon Valdez... -Curt Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:21:39 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Had a thought this evening as I backed out my driveway in the 240D. It's a fairly steep but short driveway. I notice that there is an unpleasant amount of smoke when I do this. I thought maybe it's just that I notice it since I'm backing into the exhaust. But tonight I smelled burning oil. Was wondering if somehow the angle of the car coupled with the inertia of moving backward could cause the engine to burn some oil? I don't know how this would specifically work, it's just a bit of general detective work. Brian 83 240D - Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage
I admit that I have not read all of the posts on this thread, so bear with me if someone else has already suggested this. Since you talk about backing out of the garage and up the hill, is it not possible that it is just because you are putting the vehicle under load when it is not yet warmed up? More smoke and a bit of oil might just be an issue while it is cold. I had a situation with my old 68 Chevy pickup a few years back. I was trying to back a travel trailer up an incline in a spot with little room to manouver and as such could get no run at it at all. By the time I got the trailer up the hill the truck was blowing blue smoke real bad. I assumed that I had damaged the motor by forcing it to move the trailer up the hill at low speed. However, that was in 1991. I still have the truck and it is not using oil. It did not seem to suffer any long term issue. It just did it the one time when I put a real load on it. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 1:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage It's not using much oil at all. I have a leak at the oil filter lines that attach to the block. And with this, the level goes down maybe a pint every, well, so often. I don't put many miles on the thing - I try not to drive very much. Am fortunate enough to be able to bicycle much more than I drive. Another note: I recently added oil. The level was just above the add mark, and this with the engine completely cold and not run for a day or so. So I assumed that if it were to be run and cooled and the level checked, the level would be a bit lower. So I intended to add a pint, which I thought would bring the level up to half way between the add and full marks - where it should be, right? But I accidentally added 2/3 of a quart. So perhaps its being a bit fuller than it likes contributes to the described smoking condition? Brian 83 240D On 8/21/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The joker in me says your car is always burning oil thats what OM616 means. Is the car actually burning oil, like is the oil level going down? I for one wouldn't worry about it until you're going through oil like the Exxon Valdez... -Curt Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:21:39 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Had a thought this evening as I backed out my driveway in the 240D. It's a fairly steep but short driveway. I notice that there is an unpleasant amount of smoke when I do this. I thought maybe it's just that I notice it since I'm backing into the exhaust. But tonight I smelled burning oil. Was wondering if somehow the angle of the car coupled with the inertia of moving backward could cause the engine to burn some oil? I don't know how this would specifically work, it's just a bit of general detective work. Brian 83 240D - Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Sprinter
the CDI system apparently they can be pricey to fix. I got the 7 year extended warranty for just that reason. With the electronic engine and transmission controls, ACC system, ESP (electronic stability program) and any other electronics on the Sprinter, I want to be covered. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 2006 Sprinter PV 1.5Kmi, The Box ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] subject change: Iowa's a nice place to live
And bloody wet it is Went out hunting this weekend. Should have built an ark for all the liquid sunshine to be had. Could not have found prey without the darn IR scope. clay Still coming down in sheets On 20 Aug 2007, at 08:28, Jim Cathey wrote: Washington and Oregon are nice in the summer, but I'm not sure i could put up with the cloud cover from October to April. I did a lot of work in Portland and Seattle, and in the summer when the weather was clear they were truly beautiful places to be. There is a _vast_ difference between east and west sides of these states. I (and many) refer to them as the wet and dry sides. But a fine clear warm day on the wet side is a delight. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL musings
Come to Seattle, go to Benz Friendz, see what is in the warehouse that will probably fit, and have a 4 speed manual Cathey Toad SL clay On 20 Aug 2007, at 21:34, Jim Cathey wrote: So I was thinking, How can I keep this car without getting killed? We just got back from a week's coastal vacation, and one of the things we talked about was how nice it would have been to have a toad over there. A convertible would have been particularly nice. Our truck is more than capable of handling a toad in addition to hauling the camper, if the car's brakes can be utilized. However that's not something you'd ordinarily do to a nice car, but a cheap SL isn't so much that you'd worry about it. And an SL is as small as you'd want to go for a practical toad for a family of three, plus some crap. It would also be highly unusual, which is good for me. There are difficulties, largely that the car has an automatic transmission. Though vintage MB's can be towed, it's not fast or far, the rear pump is apparently not up to the task of keeping things lubricated. I am very much against having to take a wrench to the flex disks in order to rig for towing. My wife would not be amused. It would really have to be simple to attach and detach, mechanics' work and/or trailers/dollies are right out. Two ideas: 1) Replace the transmission with a manual. Not easy, the parts probably don't even all exist. 2) Hook up an auxiliary electric hydraulic pump. It oughtn't need much flow. This would keep the guts of the transmission lubricated during the long haul. I'm assuming that something could be plumbed in at the cooler lines, and/or the test gauge ports. (An auxiliary electric vacuum pump would also take care of running the brake booster for when a brake servosystem was fitted.) Any thoughts? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage
Very good insight. Of course maybe I just like your input because it makes me feel happier than the news that I might need valve seals or worse in an engine that supposedly ony has about 115k mi. on it. :) Brian On 8/21/07, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I admit that I have not read all of the posts on this thread, so bear with me if someone else has already suggested this. Since you talk about backing out of the garage and up the hill, is it not possible that it is just because you are putting the vehicle under load when it is not yet warmed up? More smoke and a bit of oil might just be an issue while it is cold. I had a situation with my old 68 Chevy pickup a few years back. I was trying to back a travel trailer up an incline in a spot with little room to manouver and as such could get no run at it at all. By the time I got the trailer up the hill the truck was blowing blue smoke real bad. I assumed that I had damaged the motor by forcing it to move the trailer up the hill at low speed. However, that was in 1991. I still have the truck and it is not using oil. It did not seem to suffer any long term issue. It just did it the one time when I put a real load on it. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 1:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage It's not using much oil at all. I have a leak at the oil filter lines that attach to the block. And with this, the level goes down maybe a pint every, well, so often. I don't put many miles on the thing - I try not to drive very much. Am fortunate enough to be able to bicycle much more than I drive. Another note: I recently added oil. The level was just above the add mark, and this with the engine completely cold and not run for a day or so. So I assumed that if it were to be run and cooled and the level checked, the level would be a bit lower. So I intended to add a pint, which I thought would bring the level up to half way between the add and full marks - where it should be, right? But I accidentally added 2/3 of a quart. So perhaps its being a bit fuller than it likes contributes to the described smoking condition? Brian 83 240D On 8/21/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The joker in me says your car is always burning oil thats what OM616 means. Is the car actually burning oil, like is the oil level going down? I for one wouldn't worry about it until you're going through oil like the Exxon Valdez... -Curt Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:21:39 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Had a thought this evening as I backed out my driveway in the 240D. It's a fairly steep but short driveway. I notice that there is an unpleasant amount of smoke when I do this. I thought maybe it's just that I notice it since I'm backing into the exhaust. But tonight I smelled burning oil. Was wondering if somehow the angle of the car coupled with the inertia of moving backward could cause the engine to burn some oil? I don't know how this would specifically work, it's just a bit of general detective work. Brian 83 240D - Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL musings
It seems than at Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:07:11 -0700, Jim wrote: They make driveshaft de-coupler kits for toads, along with brake actuators for the cars brakes. Dig around the RV sites and you'll find them.. For the driveshaft, you'd wind up with an extra lever in the car to disconnect the driveshaft , then you don't have to worry about the tranny. I've seen some of that stuff, but we're talking about goodies that exceed the value of the car. I was hoping to come up with a clever way, preferably using microwave oven parts, to do it cheaply. Maybe you could modify a locking hub from a 4-wheel-drive mini-pickup. I don't know what the W107 uses at the rear suspension, but the W123 wheel is fully supported without the axle connected. Probably wouldn't use too many microwave oven parts, though -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage
Ah So! Remember first rule of car repair! Do not fix things that are not broken! Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 2:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage Very good insight. Of course maybe I just like your input because it makes me feel happier than the news that I might need valve seals or worse in an engine that supposedly ony has about 115k mi. on it. :) Brian On 8/21/07, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I admit that I have not read all of the posts on this thread, so bear with me if someone else has already suggested this. Since you talk about backing out of the garage and up the hill, is it not possible that it is just because you are putting the vehicle under load when it is not yet warmed up? More smoke and a bit of oil might just be an issue while it is cold. I had a situation with my old 68 Chevy pickup a few years back. I was trying to back a travel trailer up an incline in a spot with little room to manouver and as such could get no run at it at all. By the time I got the trailer up the hill the truck was blowing blue smoke real bad. I assumed that I had damaged the motor by forcing it to move the trailer up the hill at low speed. However, that was in 1991. I still have the truck and it is not using oil. It did not seem to suffer any long term issue. It just did it the one time when I put a real load on it. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 1:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage It's not using much oil at all. I have a leak at the oil filter lines that attach to the block. And with this, the level goes down maybe a pint every, well, so often. I don't put many miles on the thing - I try not to drive very much. Am fortunate enough to be able to bicycle much more than I drive. Another note: I recently added oil. The level was just above the add mark, and this with the engine completely cold and not run for a day or so. So I assumed that if it were to be run and cooled and the level checked, the level would be a bit lower. So I intended to add a pint, which I thought would bring the level up to half way between the add and full marks - where it should be, right? But I accidentally added 2/3 of a quart. So perhaps its being a bit fuller than it likes contributes to the described smoking condition? Brian 83 240D On 8/21/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The joker in me says your car is always burning oil thats what OM616 means. Is the car actually burning oil, like is the oil level going down? I for one wouldn't worry about it until you're going through oil like the Exxon Valdez... -Curt Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:21:39 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Had a thought this evening as I backed out my driveway in the 240D. It's a fairly steep but short driveway. I notice that there is an unpleasant amount of smoke when I do this. I thought maybe it's just that I notice it since I'm backing into the exhaust. But tonight I smelled burning oil. Was wondering if somehow the angle of the car coupled with the inertia of moving backward could cause the engine to burn some oil? I don't know how this would specifically work, it's just a bit of general detective work. Brian 83 240D - Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] Ski Iowa
There are some bunny slopes in southeast Wisconsin near where I used to live. While you hardly needed downhill skis (we all had cross country skis) to do the hill. it was a lot of fun. Definitely no black diamond runs there. If I want that I go out to Heavenly or Squaw Valley. Dan --- Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What, Don, you've never heard of Fun Valley in Montezuma? They have all that stuff. When I went to college in Grinnell 30 years ago you could ski there from 5 pm to close--about midnight--for $5. Included ski rental and lift ticket, which at that time was a rope tow. Since upgraded to chairs. Hell of a time. There's at least one more ski hill down in the SE corner by Navoo, IL, as well, on the IA side of the river. Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] subject change: Iowa's a nice place to live
I assume you mean prey of the non-human persuasion... On 8/21/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And bloody wet it is Went out hunting this weekend. Should have built an ark for all the liquid sunshine to be had. Could not have found prey without the darn IR scope. clay Still coming down in sheets On 20 Aug 2007, at 08:28, Jim Cathey wrote: Washington and Oregon are nice in the summer, but I'm not sure i could put up with the cloud cover from October to April. I did a lot of work in Portland and Seattle, and in the summer when the weather was clear they were truly beautiful places to be. There is a _vast_ difference between east and west sides of these states. I (and many) refer to them as the wet and dry sides. But a fine clear warm day on the wet side is a delight. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Free Mac
Well I picked it up, seems in good shape except for the battery won't hold a charge for very long. Anyone know a good place to get a replacement? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the kid paid more for this one ($450) despite being 550mhz, but it's a 15 and was in mint condition. right now it's held together by duck tape as she decided it was a good idea to bust the hinges. the price is good to my mind, but i'd still offer them 300. the only upgrade you would really find useful is a superdrive for about 100 bucks. i don't know much about the 12 powerbooks as they don';t have pcmcia slot, which is a must for me On 8/20/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i don't think it would be generally useful. i'm typing this to you on a 550mhz g4 and it does anything i want it to. i'd just upgrade the OS. and if that drive is more than 100 bucks, i wouldn't even look at it Got a lead on a 12 G4 PowerBook, seller is asking $350. States that it has a CD-RW drive, but I thought all the G4s would have had a DVD read capability at least. Anyone know? Thoughts on the price? Specs are: 1GHz G4 Processor GeForce FX G05200 (32MB) video card 768MB Ram 60G HD (7200rpm) Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Mail client
I recall the discussion a few weeks back about emails reading and management and such, and wanted to mention something in that regard. I downloaded the Mozilla Thunderbird client to a laptop I am using while traveling, and this version has some nice features for thread grouping and other things. I am not sure yet exactly how they work, as it just sorta is there in my new install, but y'all might want to check it out. There are add-ons for it too, I have not loaded any of those, but you can customize the client as you want with them. No intention to start a lengthy thread about what is better, etc, but I found this rather a pleasant surprise. It's free! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mail client
Either Thunderbird or Sylpheed (Sylpheed perhaps available only for Linux). I use Thunderbird both on WinDoze at work at on Linux at home (desktop and laptop). On 8/21/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recall the discussion a few weeks back about emails reading and management and such, and wanted to mention something in that regard. I downloaded the Mozilla Thunderbird client to a laptop I am using while traveling, and this version has some nice features for thread grouping and other things. I am not sure yet exactly how they work, as it just sorta is there in my new install, but y'all might want to check it out. There are add-ons for it too, I have not loaded any of those, but you can customize the client as you want with them. No intention to start a lengthy thread about what is better, etc, but I found this rather a pleasant surprise. It's free! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 350 sdl spring removal
Sorry for the repost. I was hoping that someone photographed the process. Regards, Constantine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 350 sdl- w126
Does anyone have any photographs showing the Klann spring removal tool ( Kl 0021) being used on the front springs of the w 126? Constantine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Free Mac
Since buying a used battery is akin to playing Russian roulette, I would suggest you go with OWC and their aftermarket NuPower batteries. I've had them on earlier machines (Macs) and not only are they as good (or better) than OEM, they have higher capacities and cost less. MacDan --- Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I picked it up, seems in good shape except for the battery won't hold a charge for very long. Anyone know a good place to get a replacement? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the kid paid more for this one ($450) despite being 550mhz, but it's a 15 and was in mint condition. right now it's held together by duck tape as she decided it was a good idea to bust the hinges. the price is good to my mind, but i'd still offer them 300. the only upgrade you would really find useful is a superdrive for about 100 bucks. i don't know much about the 12 powerbooks as they don';t have pcmcia slot, which is a must for me On 8/20/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i don't think it would be generally useful. i'm typing this to you on a 550mhz g4 and it does anything i want it to. i'd just upgrade the OS. and if that drive is more than 100 bucks, i wouldn't even look at it Got a lead on a 12 G4 PowerBook, seller is asking $350. States that it has a CD-RW drive, but I thought all the G4s would have had a DVD read capability at least. Anyone know? Thoughts on the price? Specs are: 1GHz G4 Processor GeForce FX G05200 (32MB) video card 768MB Ram 60G HD (7200rpm) Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Gorilla lug wrench
I just received two of what they call Gorilla Power Wrench for $35.81 delivered. They come with two sockets, each with two sizes; 17, 19 (3/4), 21 (13/16), and 23 MM (7/8). Appears to be pretty stout. It telescopes from about 13 to 18 and comes with a snap bag for storage. I tried it out and like it. I got mine through Amazon. com, $12.91 each plus shipping. No benefit for me, just passing on something I think will help my wife with a tire change, and she can do it. Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350 sdl- w126
Why do you want a picture, it is a straight forward job (although potentially dangerous) and a picture will not tell you much. The basics of the job are that there are two plates which are placed in the springs as far apart as possible, with the alignment in such a way that the open end of one plate is opposite to the other (this helps in compressing the spring in a straight line). Then the compressor is fitted into the spring making sure that it is locked into the grooves top and bottom. Once it is seated nicely you get a 19mm (?) socket with extension onto the top of the compressor and tighten it. Once compressed you should be able to remove the spring and then undo the compressor to remove the tool. This is a job for a medium DIYer and something which should be taken slowly so as not to make a mistake. As a word of warning, if you feel this is beyond you take it to a workshop and have it done because the amount of energy stored in those springs at full compression is lethal. Basically if you fitted the tool wrongly and it hangs on long enough for you to take the compressed spring out and have it in your hands when it lets go, it will take your head off, keep going through the garage roof and land in the neighbors back yard. Lastly, fitting and removing the tool can be fiddly, I found I had to slightly compress the tool to get it to come out of the bottom plate. Constantine N. Polites wrote: Does anyone have any photographs showing the Klann spring removal tool ( Kl 0021) being used on the front springs of the w 126? Constantine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Gorilla lug wrench
Ahh come on now, get her to pump some weights and build up those muscles. You just never know, she might like it and end up like those lady body builders, which are kinda scary. Harry Watkins wrote: I just received two of what they call Gorilla Power Wrench for $35.81 delivered. They come with two sockets, each with two sizes; 17, 19 (3/4), 21 (13/16), and 23 MM (7/8). Appears to be pretty stout. It telescopes from about 13 to 18 and comes with a snap bag for storage. I tried it out and like it. I got mine through Amazon. com, $12.91 each plus shipping. No benefit for me, just passing on something I think will help my wife with a tire change, and she can do it. Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350 sdl- w126
What exactly do you need to know about it? On the 123 it is straightforward -- put a plate in top, slide the tool down the hole, slide a plate in the bottom and hook it all up then start cranking on the screw. I recall that putting a plate in a few turns above the botttom/below the top and rotating them down/up as far as you can get them in the coils is the easiest way to do it. I'm guessing the 126 does not have much else different. --R Constantine N. Polites wrote: Does anyone have any photographs showing the Klann spring removal tool ( Kl 0021) being used on the front springs of the w 126? Constantine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A/C Question
Someone was looking a AC Gauge/Hose set for R134a - there's one - no doubt made in china -- priced at $40 in the latest Harborfreight catalog. Let me know if you have more questions or need more info - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] A/C Question Blowing a can through will not purge any moisture. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 8:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] A/C Question Plan on changing a couple of O-rings in the A/C lines. After changing the o-rings and secure the fittings, what is the next step to recharge the system? TIA Vacuum, then recharge. The old-school way to recharge without a vacuum pump was to blow a can or so of refrigerant through the system, scavenging any air with it. You DO NOT want any air left in there. It ruins the performance, and can be downright hazardous depending on the refrigerant and/or oil. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.1/963 - Release Date: 8/20/2007 5:44 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 350 sdl- w126
It is exactly the same... Where are you located? I am in Raleigh NC and have the tool, well a knock off it, but it worked on my W126s and you are welcome to borrow it. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 350 sdl- w126 What exactly do you need to know about it? On the 123 it is straightforward -- put a plate in top, slide the tool down the hole, slide a plate in the bottom and hook it all up then start cranking on the screw. I recall that putting a plate in a few turns above the botttom/below the top and rotating them down/up as far as you can get them in the coils is the easiest way to do it. I'm guessing the 126 does not have much else different. --R Constantine N. Polites wrote: Does anyone have any photographs showing the Klann spring removal tool ( Kl 0021) being used on the front springs of the w 126? Constantine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ
Given the price vs. the cost of repair (head gasket)...and what it is, do you think it's a decent seal, Herr Doktor? Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 7:17 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ Robert Rentfro wrote: What do you reckon is wrong with this? http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/400626863.html B\Almost surely a blown head gasket between the #1 piston and the chain vault Rather common with early OM60x engines. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Free Mac
i tend to go with the cheap chinese cell stuff, but those are kinda dicey too. there was a web page that showed how you can replace the cells in your dead/dying battery. On 8/21/07, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since buying a used battery is akin to playing Russian roulette, I would suggest you go with OWC and their aftermarket NuPower batteries. I've had them on earlier machines (Macs) and not only are they as good (or better) than OEM, they have higher capacities and cost less. MacDan --- Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I picked it up, seems in good shape except for the battery won't hold a charge for very long. Anyone know a good place to get a replacement? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the kid paid more for this one ($450) despite being 550mhz, but it's a 15 and was in mint condition. right now it's held together by duck tape as she decided it was a good idea to bust the hinges. the price is good to my mind, but i'd still offer them 300. the only upgrade you would really find useful is a superdrive for about 100 bucks. i don't know much about the 12 powerbooks as they don';t have pcmcia slot, which is a must for me On 8/20/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i don't think it would be generally useful. i'm typing this to you on a 550mhz g4 and it does anything i want it to. i'd just upgrade the OS. and if that drive is more than 100 bucks, i wouldn't even look at it Got a lead on a 12 G4 PowerBook, seller is asking $350. States that it has a CD-RW drive, but I thought all the G4s would have had a DVD read capability at least. Anyone know? Thoughts on the price? Specs are: 1GHz G4 Processor GeForce FX G05200 (32MB) video card 768MB Ram 60G HD (7200rpm) Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL musings
Drive the 107? On 8/20/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I was thinking, How can I keep this car without getting killed? We just got back from a week's coastal vacation, and one of the things we talked about was how nice it would have been to have a toad over there. A convertible would have been particularly nice. Our truck is more than capable of handling a toad in addition to hauling the camper, if the car's brakes can be utilized. However that's not something you'd ordinarily do to a nice car, but a cheap SL isn't so much that you'd worry about it. And an SL is as small as you'd want to go for a practical toad for a family of three, plus some crap. It would also be highly unusual, which is good for me. There are difficulties, largely that the car has an automatic transmission. Though vintage MB's can be towed, it's not fast or far, the rear pump is apparently not up to the task of keeping things lubricated. I am very much against having to take a wrench to the flex disks in order to rig for towing. My wife would not be amused. It would really have to be simple to attach and detach, mechanics' work and/or trailers/dollies are right out. Two ideas: 1) Replace the transmission with a manual. Not easy, the parts probably don't even all exist. 2) Hook up an auxiliary electric hydraulic pump. It oughtn't need much flow. This would keep the guts of the transmission lubricated during the long haul. I'm assuming that something could be plumbed in at the cooler lines, and/or the test gauge ports. (An auxiliary electric vacuum pump would also take care of running the brake booster for when a brake servosystem was fitted.) Any thoughts? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ
Robert Rentfro wrote: Given the price vs. the cost of repair (head gasket)...and what it is, do you think it's a decent seal, Herr Doktor? Bob R Could be - if the AC works. Could easily cost over $1000. Figure well over $500 for someone knowledgeable to the the head gasket. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A/C Question
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:45:57 -0400 Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dave walton wrote: Where is the expansion valve located? -Dave Walton Depends on which car. The expansion valve on the 124 is between the firewall behind and inboard of the brake booster. On the 126 I expect it's still behind and above the brake pedal (and an absolute BEAST to work on). How about a 123? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mail client
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:01:50 -0500 Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Either Thunderbird or Sylpheed (Sylpheed perhaps available only for Linux). I use Sylpheed. It's available for winders, too. http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/ Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mail client
Sylpheed is ef'ing fast. Whoever did the code must have been a minimalist. My kind of guy. On 8/21/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:01:50 -0500 Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Either Thunderbird or Sylpheed (Sylpheed perhaps available only for Linux). I use Sylpheed. It's available for winders, too. http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/ Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mail client
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:53:50 -0500 Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sylpheed is ef'ing fast. Whoever did the code must have been a minimalist. My kind of guy. Hiroyuki Yamamoto, in Japan. And yes, it sure does load fast. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] citric acid
Rusty Cullens wrote: I have it. Don't you have ALL of it? BTW, remind me to call you tomorrow. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Weather in Ioway
Looks like you have tornado watches tonight, Don. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mail client
Thunderbird is an Excellent Mail client. Been using it since it came out. Much better that M$ Outlook or Outlook Express. Russ W. 83 240D x2 Rich Thomas wrote: I recall the discussion a few weeks back about emails reading and management and such, and wanted to mention something in that regard. I downloaded the Mozilla Thunderbird client to a laptop I am using while traveling, and this version has some nice features for thread grouping and other things. I am not sure yet exactly how they work, as it just sorta is there in my new install, but y'all might want to check it out. There are add-ons for it too, I have not loaded any of those, but you can customize the client as you want with them. No intention to start a lengthy thread about what is better, etc, but I found this rather a pleasant surprise. It's free! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Free Mac
Allan Try here http://www.kahlon.com/ they have good priced on laptop batteries. Russ W. --- Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I picked it up, seems in good shape except for the battery won't hold a charge for very long. Anyone know a good place to get a replacement? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the kid paid more for this one ($450) despite being 550mhz, but it's a 15 and was in mint condition. right now it's held together by duck tape as she decided it was a good idea to bust the hinges. the price is good to my mind, but i'd still offer them 300. the only upgrade you would really find useful is a superdrive for about 100 bucks. i don't know much about the 12 powerbooks as they don';t have pcmcia slot, which is a must for me On 8/20/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i don't think it would be generally useful. i'm typing this to you on a 550mhz g4 and it does anything i want it to. i'd just upgrade the OS. and if that drive is more than 100 bucks, i wouldn't even look at it Got a lead on a 12 G4 PowerBook, seller is asking $350. States that it has a CD-RW drive, but I thought all the G4s would have had a DVD read capability at least. Anyone know? Thoughts on the price? Specs are: 1GHz G4 Processor GeForce FX G05200 (32MB) video card 768MB Ram 60G HD (7200rpm) Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A/C Question
A 123 is easy. It's the filling in a foam sandwich accessible either thru the glove box or if not there for sure behind the lower panel below the box. Reminds me, the insulating sandwich is kaput on my '80; I need to order a replacement if I'm ever to get around to recharging the thing. -joe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Weather in Ioway
Nope. North of me. Had a couple there who had their back yard swept away -- they now have a ten foot sinkhole. I came home from work yesterday and mowed dry grass. Ugly end of summer, very out of the ordinary. On 8/21/07, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like you have tornado watches tonight, Don. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mail client
thats what I am using. outlook sucks Russ Williams wrote: Thunderbird is an Excellent Mail client. Been using it since it came out. Much better that M$ Outlook or Outlook Express. Russ W. 83 240D x2 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A/C Question
As I recall, it's behind the glove box on a 123. Not really all that bad to access. Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 10:47 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] A/C Question On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:45:57 -0400 Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dave walton wrote: Where is the expansion valve located? -Dave Walton Depends on which car. The expansion valve on the 124 is between the firewall behind and inboard of the brake booster. On the 126 I expect it's still behind and above the brake pedal (and an absolute BEAST to work on). How about a 123? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL musings
Come to Seattle, go to Benz Friendz, see what is in the warehouse that will probably fit, and have a 4 speed manual Cathey Toad SL You should look for me! :-) Either a manual tranny setup for the M116 (?), or else something that's purely unplug and go is preferable. I'd like my wife to be able to use it too. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mail client
And yet your OS is still Microsoft. Sigh. God only makes a few idiots. They tend to congregate in Claremore. D. On 8/21/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thats what I am using. outlook sucks -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A/C Question
Depends on which car. The expansion valve on the 124 is between the firewall behind and inboard of the brake booster. On the 126 I expect it's still behind and above the brake pedal (and an absolute BEAST to work on). For the 126 lie on your back with your head next to the gas pedal. Look up. You can see it. Just. I have no idea how one would actually get a wrench on it, much less two of them to crack the fittings loose. BEAST is an understatement. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Adding Auxiliary Input to a Car Stereo
This guy hacked his cheap sound system and added an aux input. Looks fairly simple. http://donn.dyndns.org/projects/carstereoinput/ So did I: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/cwlog.html It's in there somewhere. The hard part was the cosmetics, which is nullified if you want to just drag a cable out of there somewhere. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Weather in Ioway
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:36:03 -0500 Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope. North of me. Had a couple there who had their back yard swept away -- they now have a ten foot sinkhole. I came home from work yesterday and mowed dry grass. Ugly end of summer, very out of the ordinary. Well, according to http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radblast.asp?num=6delay=15scale=1.00noclutter=0ID=DMXtype=N0Rlat=0lon=0label=youshowstorms=100showlabels=1rainsnow=0 your county has a red box around it (if the severe weather overlay is showing), so that would seem to mean you're under a tornado watch. At least if I have your county pinned down correctly. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mail client
It seems than at Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:01:50 -0500, Wonko wrote: Either Thunderbird or Sylpheed (Sylpheed perhaps available only for Linux). It is built on GTK2, which means it should be possible to port it to Windows - but I don't think anyone has. I downloaded the Mozilla Thunderbird client to a laptop I am using while traveling, and this version has some nice features for thread grouping and other things. I am not sure yet exactly how they work, as it just sorta is there in my new install, but y'all might want to check it out. Each email has a practically unique number. It shows up in the header Message-ID: There is also a header called In-Reply-To: that is the message ID for the email that was open when the reply button was pushed. This is all the information needed to build a threaded display. It works until some client or server stripes the headers No intention to start a lengthy thread about what is better, etc, but I found this rather a pleasant surprise. It's free! Many (or most?) trojans, worms, and viruses are really Outlook problems. Using Thunderbird dodges those. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage
Now quit that! Gump will be coming out of the shop this week. I swear I thought I could do the fix, though it was not a real needed repair. How was I to know I would booger it all up? clay On 21 Aug 2007, at 14:06, R A Bennell wrote: Ah So! Remember first rule of car repair! Do not fix things that are not broken! Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 2:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage Very good insight. Of course maybe I just like your input because it makes me feel happier than the news that I might need valve seals or worse in an engine that supposedly ony has about 115k mi. on it. :) Brian On 8/21/07, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I admit that I have not read all of the posts on this thread, so bear with me if someone else has already suggested this. Since you talk about backing out of the garage and up the hill, is it not possible that it is just because you are putting the vehicle under load when it is not yet warmed up? More smoke and a bit of oil might just be an issue while it is cold. I had a situation with my old 68 Chevy pickup a few years back. I was trying to back a travel trailer up an incline in a spot with little room to manouver and as such could get no run at it at all. By the time I got the trailer up the hill the truck was blowing blue smoke real bad. I assumed that I had damaged the motor by forcing it to move the trailer up the hill at low speed. However, that was in 1991. I still have the truck and it is not using oil. It did not seem to suffer any long term issue. It just did it the one time when I put a real load on it. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 1:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage It's not using much oil at all. I have a leak at the oil filter lines that attach to the block. And with this, the level goes down maybe a pint every, well, so often. I don't put many miles on the thing - I try not to drive very much. Am fortunate enough to be able to bicycle much more than I drive. Another note: I recently added oil. The level was just above the add mark, and this with the engine completely cold and not run for a day or so. So I assumed that if it were to be run and cooled and the level checked, the level would be a bit lower. So I intended to add a pint, which I thought would bring the level up to half way between the add and full marks - where it should be, right? But I accidentally added 2/3 of a quart. So perhaps its being a bit fuller than it likes contributes to the described smoking condition? Brian 83 240D On 8/21/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The joker in me says your car is always burning oil thats what OM616 means. Is the car actually burning oil, like is the oil level going down? I for one wouldn't worry about it until you're going through oil like the Exxon Valdez... -Curt Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:21:39 -0700 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Had a thought this evening as I backed out my driveway in the 240D. It's a fairly steep but short driveway. I notice that there is an unpleasant amount of smoke when I do this. I thought maybe it's just that I notice it since I'm backing into the exhaust. But tonight I smelled burning oil. Was wondering if somehow the angle of the car coupled with the inertia of moving backward could cause the engine to burn some oil? I don't know how this would specifically work, it's just a bit of general detective work. Brian 83 240D - Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL musings
Since the 115/114 shared so many parts with the 107, would not a transmission set up from that model be a pretty good hook up? Would need to fetch a different drive shaft to compensate for the AT trans length, but seems like it should work. There a a bunch of shafts and trans to be had. clay On 21 Aug 2007, at 20:47, Jim Cathey wrote: Come to Seattle, go to Benz Friendz, see what is in the warehouse that will probably fit, and have a 4 speed manual Cathey Toad SL You should look for me! :-) Either a manual tranny setup for the M116 (?), or else something that's purely unplug and go is preferable. I'd like my wife to be able to use it too. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage
That's why you need to be a chicken liver like me and shy away from tasks such as thermostat RRs. Perhaps there is virtue in my fear. Or is it that caution is the better part of valor. Heck, now I'm just making stuff up. Brian On 8/21/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now quit that! Gump will be coming out of the shop this week. I swear I thought I could do the fix, though it was not a real needed repair. How was I to know I would booger it all up? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
