Re: [MBZ] 150 VS

[RELNGSON]

> A 150 is capable of slow flight at about 30-35 mph...
> 
Oh come now..

RLE

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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test

[Craig]

On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 23:26:33 -0400 Mitch Haley  wrote:

> Six inches of rain in the last few days have greened it up nicely
> though, I'll probably mow again before the month is over.

We have been getting some rain here in Los Alamos. I need to get out and
mow the lawn, but with all the work on the house and the rain haven't had
an opportunity.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test

[Mitch Haley]

Fmiser wrote:


I have about 1.5 acre (0.6 Hectares) of mowed yard.  It has been
so dry that it's all brown and I haven't mowed for more than two
months.


I had to mow the more persistent weeds about a week ago after a couple months of 
not mowing. The grass hadn't grown.


Six inches of rain in the last few days have greened it up nicely though, I'll 
probably mow again before the month is over.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Flying Experiences was Lost again? Test

[Rich Thomas]

That is pretty funny.

--R

On 8/12/12 9:59 PM, Russ Williams wrote:

Back in 1980 I was working for a company out of Pearland, Tx.
Four days prior to this I had just taken delivery of our 4th and last 
Sikorsky S-76.
And flown it from the Sikorsky Delivery facility in West Palm Beach to 
Pearland.
During the flight from NEW to Pear "George" (Auto Pilot) would kick 
off line.
Reported Problem to maint. They fixed George so Chief Pilot and myself 
took it for a
shakedown flight. We decide to shoot the ILS @ HOU (Houston Hobby) 
with George

doing the flying. Contacted HOU Approach and requested the approach.
They sandwich us in between 2 Continental DC9's.
#2 Decides that He didn't want a Lowly helicopter in front of him on 
"His" approach

and tells Approach the fact. Here's the Dialog between them.
Cont: Hobby Approach Cont. 
HOU: Cont  Hobby
Cont: Understand there is a Helicopter ahead of us?
HOU: Roger that
Cont: Request that Helicopter be rerouted so he's behind us. Don't 
want to have

  to shoot a Go Around because of him.
Hou: Cont  That won't be a problem. In fact your company better 
get the lead out

  I have him at 130 Kts and the Helio at 145.
Cont: WHAT!!!
We had George coupled to the ILS and had about 90% torque applied.
Cont # 1 landed as we hit the Middle Marker.
I requested a low pass instead of our regular break off at the Inner 
Marker.

Hobby Twr says Go for It. Set George to level out at 50'.
As we went down the the Runway at 140 kts Cont #1, who was taxing to 
the term

was hear to say "WHAT in the Hell kind was that"
Twr reply was  A FAST ONE.
Chief Pilot and I were laughing our head off.
Never had any problems for the Airline Drivers at Hobby again.

Russ W.

On 8/12/2012 13:23, Rich Thomas wrote:
When I was flying small airplanes this was an experience one Sunday 
afternoon:


Inbound control:  26N contact tower on nnn
ME:  Fort Wayne tower 26N is with you downwind for 22
Tower:  26N you are cleared to land advise turning final
ME:  clickclick
A few seconds later
United 727 inbound:  Tower United xx with you inbound for 22
Tower:  United you are cleared to land 22
ME (a bit later): 26N turning final for 22
Tower (a few seconds later, somewhat anxious):   United xx go around 
for traffic on short final repeat go around please
United xx (pilot sounding REALLY pissed):  Roger tower United xx 
going around for 22
Tower:  26N please advise when clearing the runway and contact ground 
on 


--R


On 8/12/12 1:52 PM, WILTON wrote:
'Reminds me:  SWMBO and I flew a 150 into Mackinac Island, MI, one 
Sunday for lunch at the Grand Hotel; joined right in the pattern, 
etc., with the Citations, etc., ('course, coupla of 'em had to go 
around while I landed and got out of the way). 



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Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender?

[Frederick Moir]

Curt, et al.
The 601/602 engine thermometer sender is on the thermostat housing. Just a 
single contact sticking out, check it and the socket for clean contact.
If it's not that, it is meter and ground tango time.
Have fun.
 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.


>
> From: Curt Raymond 
>To: Diesel List  
>Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 9:13 PM
>Subject: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender?
> 
>Some of you may remember this game where my 190D temp gauge creeps up and 
>down. Well the last 2 days its up (yeah I know, sell when its up ;)
>Anyway tonight we pulled in the driveway and I jumped out with my IR 
>thermometer. The temp gauge read 100C or just above (meaning just above the 
>line between 80 and 120 which I presume is 100C.
>
>The highest I could find on the engine was the joint where the output hose, 
>vent hose and sender sit which was right about 190F. Google tells me thats 
>about 87C which seems to me not too bad. I know its hotter in the engine but 
>how much?
>This test was made after ~12 miles of 50-60mph driving. I also measured a 
>temperature gradient across the radiator from ~100F at the inlet to maybe 75F 
>at the output.
>
>The radiator is ~6 months old, the behavior of the temp gauge changed not one 
>bit when I got it, though the old radiator was leaking. The thermostat and 
>radiator cap are ~9 months old and also didn't change the temp gauge behavior.
>Plenty of coolant in the bottle, I even topped up to be sure. Its green but 
>only 6 months old. I've been considering it test coolant to be changed once 
>the problem was worked out.
>
>There are at least 2 temp sensors I could find, theres one up high by the 
>output hose and another on the passenger side of the engine down below the 
>exhaust manifold. I pulled the plug from the high one to see if it was dirty 
>and maybe causing odd readings. It wasn't and hasn't changed behavior with a 
>little cleaning.
>
>Help! This is driving me insane. Considering the temps I found tonight I'm 
>thinking the engine is fine and I'm getting bad data from the gauge but how do 
>I troubleshoot who is giving me bad data? I do have another gauge I could swap 
>in...
>
>-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?

[Rich Thomas]

Did you check all the connections at the various sensors -- the cut-out 
switches and what not?  You do have refrigerant, right?


--R


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Re: [MBZ] High temp, bad sender?

[Max Dillon]

My first guess is a bad ground in your instrument cluster.
-- 
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Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?

[Max Dillon]

'fraid it is time to get out the DMM and start working through the twenty-odd 
steps to diagnose your HVAC system, see section 83 in the FSM...
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD

andrew strasfogel  wrote:

Klima swap made no difference - still cycles the compressor and blows
hot air. Temp sensor hose is intact. I'm running out of east
options. Maybe the monovalve only looks good but is rotten at heart?

On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 10:53 AM, WILTON  wrote:
> BTW, my 91 350SDL heating/cooling had a "hunting" problem somewhat like that
> about a year and a half ago 'til I installed new kit in monovalve. 'Noticed
> you've found your monovalve to be in good condition. 'Hope new KLIMA fixes
> it.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel"
> 
>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:34 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
>
>
>> I doubt that is the problem, as this baby has been under cover and
>> babied over the past dozen or so years. I will check the little
>> grille on the dash for suction, however. I swapped in another klima
>> relay this morning so she can test it on the road later today.
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 11:04 PM, WILTON  wrote:
>>>
>>> Best , of course, is free or no additional cost.
>>>
>>>
>>> Wilton
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "Max Dillon"
>>> 
>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 10:07 PM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
>>>
>>>
 Yes, the second best kind!
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300
 '87 300TD

 WILTON  wrote:

 A $2 repair?

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: "Max Dillon"
 
 To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
 Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 9:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?


> Classic symptoms of a deteriorated foam tube under the dash, which can
> be
> replaced with similar tube from hardware store.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '95 E300
> '87 300TD
>
> andrew strasfogel  wrote:
>
> SWMBO's 1985 300CD AC has started to behave erratically, blowing hot
> air one minute and cold the next. I checked the monovalve (perfect)
> and swapped in another ACC push button module. Nothing changed.
> What's odd is that the ACC seems to be "hunting" wile operating,
> clicking the compressor on and off and cycling hot and cold air.
> Could this be the klima relay? The par number is 001-545-74-05. I
> have two 1985 turbodiesels so could swap one out to test but I looked
> under the hood and didn't see it. Where is it located?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Flying Experiences was Lost again? Test

[Russ Williams]

Back in 1980 I was working for a company out of Pearland, Tx.
Four days prior to this I had just taken delivery of our 4th and last 
Sikorsky S-76.
And flown it from the Sikorsky Delivery facility in West Palm Beach to 
Pearland.
During the flight from NEW to Pear "George" (Auto Pilot) would kick off 
line.
Reported Problem to maint. They fixed George so Chief Pilot and myself 
took it for a
shakedown flight. We decide to shoot the ILS @ HOU (Houston Hobby) with 
George

doing the flying. Contacted HOU Approach and requested the approach.
They sandwich us in between 2 Continental DC9's.
#2 Decides that He didn't want a Lowly helicopter in front of him on 
"His" approach

and tells Approach the fact. Here's the Dialog between them.
Cont: Hobby Approach Cont. 
HOU: Cont  Hobby
Cont: Understand there is a Helicopter ahead of us?
HOU: Roger that
Cont: Request that Helicopter be rerouted so he's behind us. Don't want 
to have

  to shoot a Go Around because of him.
Hou: Cont  That won't be a problem. In fact your company better get 
the lead out

  I have him at 130 Kts and the Helio at 145.
Cont: WHAT!!!
We had George coupled to the ILS and had about 90% torque applied.
Cont # 1 landed as we hit the Middle Marker.
I requested a low pass instead of our regular break off at the Inner Marker.
Hobby Twr says Go for It. Set George to level out at 50'.
As we went down the the Runway at 140 kts Cont #1, who was taxing to the 
term

was hear to say "WHAT in the Hell kind was that"
Twr reply was  A FAST ONE.
Chief Pilot and I were laughing our head off.
Never had any problems for the Airline Drivers at Hobby again.

Russ W.

On 8/12/2012 13:23, Rich Thomas wrote:
When I was flying small airplanes this was an experience one Sunday 
afternoon:


Inbound control:  26N contact tower on nnn
ME:  Fort Wayne tower 26N is with you downwind for 22
Tower:  26N you are cleared to land advise turning final
ME:  clickclick
A few seconds later
United 727 inbound:  Tower United xx with you inbound for 22
Tower:  United you are cleared to land 22
ME (a bit later): 26N turning final for 22
Tower (a few seconds later, somewhat anxious):   United xx go around 
for traffic on short final repeat go around please
United xx (pilot sounding REALLY pissed):  Roger tower United xx going 
around for 22
Tower:  26N please advise when clearing the runway and contact ground 
on 


--R


On 8/12/12 1:52 PM, WILTON wrote:
'Reminds me:  SWMBO and I flew a 150 into Mackinac Island, MI, one 
Sunday for lunch at the Grand Hotel; joined right in the pattern, 
etc., with the Citations, etc., ('course, coupla of 'em had to go 
around while I landed and got out of the way). 



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Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?

[andrew strasfogel]

Klima swap made no difference - still cycles the compressor and blows
hot air.  Temp sensor hose is intact.  I'm running out of east
options.  Maybe the monovalve only looks good but is rotten at heart?

On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 10:53 AM, WILTON  wrote:
> BTW, my 91 350SDL heating/cooling had a "hunting" problem somewhat like that
> about a year and a half ago 'til I installed new kit in monovalve.  'Noticed
> you've found your monovalve to be in good condition.  'Hope new KLIMA fixes
> it.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel"
> 
>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:34 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
>
>
>> I doubt that is the problem, as this baby has been under cover and
>> babied over the past dozen or so years.   I will check the little
>> grille on the dash for suction, however.  I swapped in another klima
>> relay this morning so she can test it on the road later today.
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 11:04 PM, WILTON  wrote:
>>>
>>> Best , of course, is free or no additional cost.
>>>
>>>
>>> Wilton
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "Max Dillon"
>>> 
>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 10:07 PM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
>>>
>>>
 Yes, the second best kind!
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300
 '87 300TD

 WILTON  wrote:

 A $2 repair?

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: "Max Dillon"
 
 To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
 Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 9:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?


> Classic symptoms of a deteriorated foam tube under the dash, which can
> be
> replaced with similar tube from hardware store.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '95 E300
> '87 300TD
>
> andrew strasfogel  wrote:
>
> SWMBO's 1985 300CD AC has started to behave erratically, blowing hot
> air one minute and cold the next. I checked the monovalve (perfect)
> and swapped in another ACC push button module. Nothing changed.
> What's odd is that the ACC seems to be "hunting" wile operating,
> clicking the compressor on and off and cycling hot and cold air.
> Could this be the klima relay? The par number is 001-545-74-05. I
> have two 1985 turbodiesels so could swap one out to test but I looked
> under the hood and didn't see it. Where is it located?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test

[Curt Raymond]

The rains have come here, or at least a little. The area I filled last spring 
has LEAPED up from the ground. I'm not sure what the grass is that took first 
but its a broadleaf, probably timothy, it looks like hay. I suspect they put 
that in the mix to get SOMETHING growing and it'll get crowded out by a smaller 
bladed grass later. In a shadier spot of the lawn I got some real fine bladed 
stuff from the same mix.

Or maybe all the mix grass died in the hot sun...

-Curt

Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 18:50:26 -0500
From: OK Don 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Same situation here. THe only place we've mowed in the last two months is
over the septic lateral lines.

On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Fmiser  wrote:

> > WILTON wrote:
>
> > I cut the weeds/grass today, too.  Pretty good hay crop in
> > coupla areas.
>
> I have about 1.5 acre (0.6 Hectares) of mowed yard.  It has been
> so dry that it's all brown and I haven't mowed for more than two
> months.
>
> I'm saving money on gasoline though.
>
> --   Philip
>

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[MBZ] High temp, bad sender?

[Curt Raymond]

Some of you may remember this game where my 190D temp gauge creeps up and down. 
Well the last 2 days its up (yeah I know, sell when its up ;)
Anyway tonight we pulled in the driveway and I jumped out with my IR 
thermometer. The temp gauge read 100C or just above (meaning just above the 
line between 80 and 120 which I presume is 100C.

The highest I could find on the engine was the joint where the output hose, 
vent hose and sender sit which was right about 190F. Google tells me thats 
about 87C which seems to me not too bad. I know its hotter in the engine but 
how much?
This test was made after ~12 miles of 50-60mph driving. I also measured a 
temperature gradient across the radiator from ~100F at the inlet to maybe 75F 
at the output.

The radiator is ~6 months old, the behavior of the temp gauge changed not one 
bit when I got it, though the old radiator was leaking. The thermostat and 
radiator cap are ~9 months old and also didn't change the temp gauge behavior.
Plenty of coolant in the bottle, I even topped up to be sure. Its green but 
only 6 months old. I've been considering it test coolant to be changed once the 
problem was worked out.

There are at least 2 temp sensors I could find, theres one up high by the 
output hose and another on the passenger side of the engine down below the 
exhaust manifold. I pulled the plug from the high one to see if it was dirty 
and maybe causing odd readings. It wasn't and hasn't changed behavior with a 
little cleaning.

Help! This is driving me insane. Considering the temps I found tonight I'm 
thinking the engine is fine and I'm getting bad data from the gauge but how do 
I troubleshoot who is giving me bad data? I do have another gauge I could swap 
in...

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test

[Rich Thomas]

Unicom frequency, all small airports have sort of a "CB" freq you just 
get on and announce what you are up to.  Others are supposed to listen 
and do the same.  Supposed to.


I had a fun afternoon, I believe I had related before, wherein the Air 
Guard F-100s were practicing IFR in the pattern.  I was doing touch and 
goes with my instructor, and announcing properly under tower control.  
We were at 1600ft where we were supposed to be.  I hear the tower tell 
an F-100 flight "your traffic is 12 o'clock 1 mile at 1200 you will pass 
over at 400."  My instructor was about 3 milliseconds faster than I was 
and yanked the throttle back and shoved the wheel into the dash, and a 
few seconds later 2 F-100s passed over us, right over us, close enough 
to see the rivets.


We were both rattled and after getting the airplane under control I 
asked what that was about, meaning the tower FU, and he said "we almost 
scraped some paint."  Uh, yeah.  I landed the airplane with no further 
conversation and as we were taxiing past the terminal building where the 
tower was, he says "stop here" so I did and he jumps out without a word 
and was making a very purposeful line toward the building.  Hmmm. so I 
went on over to the ramp and parked the airplane and got it sorted, he 
shows up about 10min later, still red and very angry.  He tells me he 
chewed out the controllers something fierce, they were clueless as to 
what had happened.  Back then you could just go up to the tower, I used 
to do that occasionally.  I don't think there was ever any sort of 
incident report made, but it would have been a serious CF, like fatally 
serious for 3 airplanes and 4 people, had we both not been paying close 
attention to the radio.


I was 16 at the time, still a bit away from getting my license and had 
not even been driving that long, that put the fear into me about flying 
airplanes and paying very very close attention to everything going on 
around -- situational awareness as he called it.  It was a good lesson 
about a lot of things.


--R

On 8/12/12 8:15 PM, Allan Streib wrote:

Our local airport is only staffed part-time.  If you are landing at
night and there's nobody in the tower, you double-click your mic on a
particular frequency and the landing lights switch on.  I don't know how
planes coordinate landing at unmanned airfields, but I assume there's a
protocol.

Allan

OK Don  writes:


At least there was a tower involved, to some degree. After dropping the
glider I was heading to the runway as fast a possible to get ready for the
next tow - full flaps in the 150/150. Looked down to see a Cherokee landing
under me. He never announced on the unicom, nothng, just zoomed under and
landed. I had no idea that a 150/150 could climb that fast when full
throttle was applied with full flaps! Didin't have to change my pants
afterwards, but it was close.

On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:


When I was flying small airplanes this was an experience one Sunday
afternoon:

Inbound control:  26N contact tower on nnn
ME:  Fort Wayne tower 26N is with you downwind for 22
Tower:  26N you are cleared to land advise turning final
ME:  clickclick
A few seconds later
United 727 inbound:  Tower United xx with you inbound for 22
Tower:  United you are cleared to land 22
ME (a bit later): 26N turning final for 22
Tower (a few seconds later, somewhat anxious):   United xx go around for
traffic on short final repeat go around please
United xx (pilot sounding REALLY pissed):  Roger tower United xx going
around for 22
Tower:  26N please advise when clearing the runway and contact ground on


--R



On 8/12/12 1:52 PM, WILTON wrote:


'Reminds me:  SWMBO and I flew a 150 into Mackinac Island, MI, one Sunday
for lunch at the Grand Hotel; joined right in the pattern, etc., with the
Citations, etc., ('course, coupla of 'em had to go around while I landed
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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test

[Allan Streib]

Our local airport is only staffed part-time.  If you are landing at
night and there's nobody in the tower, you double-click your mic on a
particular frequency and the landing lights switch on.  I don't know how
planes coordinate landing at unmanned airfields, but I assume there's a
protocol.

Allan

OK Don  writes:

> At least there was a tower involved, to some degree. After dropping the
> glider I was heading to the runway as fast a possible to get ready for the
> next tow - full flaps in the 150/150. Looked down to see a Cherokee landing
> under me. He never announced on the unicom, nothng, just zoomed under and
> landed. I had no idea that a 150/150 could climb that fast when full
> throttle was applied with full flaps! Didin't have to change my pants
> afterwards, but it was close.
>
> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Rich Thomas <
> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
>
>> When I was flying small airplanes this was an experience one Sunday
>> afternoon:
>>
>> Inbound control:  26N contact tower on nnn
>> ME:  Fort Wayne tower 26N is with you downwind for 22
>> Tower:  26N you are cleared to land advise turning final
>> ME:  clickclick
>> A few seconds later
>> United 727 inbound:  Tower United xx with you inbound for 22
>> Tower:  United you are cleared to land 22
>> ME (a bit later): 26N turning final for 22
>> Tower (a few seconds later, somewhat anxious):   United xx go around for
>> traffic on short final repeat go around please
>> United xx (pilot sounding REALLY pissed):  Roger tower United xx going
>> around for 22
>> Tower:  26N please advise when clearing the runway and contact ground on
>> 
>>
>> --R
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/12/12 1:52 PM, WILTON wrote:
>>
>>> 'Reminds me:  SWMBO and I flew a 150 into Mackinac Island, MI, one Sunday
>>> for lunch at the Grand Hotel; joined right in the pattern, etc., with the
>>> Citations, etc., ('course, coupla of 'em had to go around while I landed
>>> and got out of the way).
>>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test

[OK Don]

At least there was a tower involved, to some degree. After dropping the
glider I was heading to the runway as fast a possible to get ready for the
next tow - full flaps in the 150/150. Looked down to see a Cherokee landing
under me. He never announced on the unicom, nothng, just zoomed under and
landed. I had no idea that a 150/150 could climb that fast when full
throttle was applied with full flaps! Didin't have to change my pants
afterwards, but it was close.

On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> When I was flying small airplanes this was an experience one Sunday
> afternoon:
>
> Inbound control:  26N contact tower on nnn
> ME:  Fort Wayne tower 26N is with you downwind for 22
> Tower:  26N you are cleared to land advise turning final
> ME:  clickclick
> A few seconds later
> United 727 inbound:  Tower United xx with you inbound for 22
> Tower:  United you are cleared to land 22
> ME (a bit later): 26N turning final for 22
> Tower (a few seconds later, somewhat anxious):   United xx go around for
> traffic on short final repeat go around please
> United xx (pilot sounding REALLY pissed):  Roger tower United xx going
> around for 22
> Tower:  26N please advise when clearing the runway and contact ground on
> 
>
> --R
>
>
>
> On 8/12/12 1:52 PM, WILTON wrote:
>
>> 'Reminds me:  SWMBO and I flew a 150 into Mackinac Island, MI, one Sunday
>> for lunch at the Grand Hotel; joined right in the pattern, etc., with the
>> Citations, etc., ('course, coupla of 'em had to go around while I landed
>> and got out of the way).
>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test

[OK Don]

Same situation here. THe only place we've mowed in the last two months is
over the septic lateral lines.

On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Fmiser  wrote:

> > WILTON wrote:
>
> > I cut the weeds/grass today, too.  Pretty good hay crop in
> > coupla areas.
>
> I have about 1.5 acre (0.6 Hectares) of mowed yard.  It has been
> so dry that it's all brown and I haven't mowed for more than two
> months.
>
> I'm saving money on gasoline though.
>
> --   Philip
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Re: [MBZ] OT that golf thingie

[Rich Thomas]

Well that is the thing -- when 30k people decide to leave in the next 
few minutes on this one road, they ain't gonna be moving much of 
anywhere for quite some time.


There are about 14000 cops all over to keep traffic moving, so far I 
suppose it has worked fairly well, though yesterday a storm came through 
late in the day and they closed the game down, and everyone left -- took 
some over 2hr to get into Chucktown.  I was in town and headed out and 
saw the last of the stragglers.


--R

On 8/12/12 6:12 PM, WILTON wrote:
Isn't it illegal to have open beer in moving vehicle? That's right, I 
don't drink, never have, not even beer, so I really don't know - never 
been concerned about it.


You could make a deal with local police - get temp beer permit, have 
police checking traffic short way down the road, etc.  Fill local 
coffers and yours, too, etc.   ;<)


Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" 


To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 5:55 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT that golf thingie


If any of you are watching that golf thingie on the talking picture 
box, it is a gorgeous day out here on the fringe of America!  A 
little thunder in the air a while ago, but now clear and breezy. 
Waiting for the traffic to start up when they all leave, it will be 
madness.  I wish I had a temporary beer permit, I could put a cooler 
out by the road and make enough to retire.


--R

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Re: [MBZ] OT that golf thingie

[WILTON]

Isn't it illegal to have open beer in moving vehicle?  That's right, I don't 
drink, never have, not even beer, so I really don't know - never been 
concerned about it.


You could make a deal with local police - get temp beer permit, have police 
checking traffic short way down the road, etc.  Fill local coffers and 
yours, too, etc.   ;<)


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 5:55 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT that golf thingie


If any of you are watching that golf thingie on the talking picture box, 
it is a gorgeous day out here on the fringe of America!  A little thunder 
in the air a while ago, but now clear and breezy. Waiting for the traffic 
to start up when they all leave, it will be madness.  I wish I had a 
temporary beer permit, I could put a cooler out by the road and make 
enough to retire.


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[MBZ] OT that golf thingie

[Rich Thomas]

If any of you are watching that golf thingie on the talking picture box, 
it is a gorgeous day out here on the fringe of America!  A little 
thunder in the air a while ago, but now clear and breezy. Waiting for 
the traffic to start up when they all leave, it will be madness.  I wish 
I had a temporary beer permit, I could put a cooler out by the road and 
make enough to retire.


--R

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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test

[Fmiser]

> WILTON wrote:

> I cut the weeds/grass today, too.  Pretty good hay crop in
> coupla areas.

I have about 1.5 acre (0.6 Hectares) of mowed yard.  It has been
so dry that it's all brown and I haven't mowed for more than two
months.

I'm saving money on gasoline though. 

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[WILTON]

I cut the weeds/grass today, too.  Pretty good hay crop in coupla areas.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Curt Raymond" 

To: "Diesel List" 
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test


I finally made time to cut the grass today, it'd been way too long and part 
of the yard was a total hay field.
My wife had tried to start the old Snapper last week but it wouldn't go. 
Today I discovered that the auto choke had stuck on, its done that before 
too. Its one of those systems where you push the throttle all the way up 
to engage.


I'm thinking its time to convert to a manual choke. I've found that the 
detent for max-throttle isn't very pronounced so occasionally it'll slip 
the choke on while I'm mowing and the engine spits and pops until I figure 
out whats going on and slip it back just slightly.


-Curt

Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 12:40:39 -0400
From: "WILTON" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test
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Well, if it doesn't rain, storm, etc., I may go out in coupla hours and 
cut

the weeds/grass.
Hafta pump up both rear tires on the John Deere; front tire I slimed 
several

years ago still holding up.
Might oughta (that's Southern for "maybe I should" just in case any of
"youse guys/y'all" have trouble translating) slime the rear ones.

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D fuel injector operation

[David Bruckmann]

There are only two hoses: feed and return. Try reversing the cigar hose and the 
infeed line (that has the filter on it). If your fuel is lower than 1/3 and you 
got those backwards, you'll get no fuel. 

The other lines should all be fixed-length clear hoses with banjo fittings on 
the ends... Hard to imagine how you could get them wrong since the lengths are 
not very generous. 

Did you replace the hand pump? That's the usual reason for air getting into the 
fuel. 

D. 


> Mike Esh  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have a drawing, diagram, or schematic of the fuel flow from the 
> tank through the injection pump and back? I removed all lines and hoses 
> trying to find an air leak and now I cannot get fuel to pump by cranking or 
> with the hand pump. I thought I had it labeled pretty well when i pulled 
> things apart, however I have tried so many combinations that now I am totally 
> confused. Any help would be appreciated.
> Thanks, 
> Mike in Michigan
> 
> Michael E. Esh

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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test

[Dan Penoff]

I would liken a 150 as the "Volkswagen" of private planes.

I started in a 150, then a 172, then a 182, then a Piper, and finally to a 
Beech Bonanza V35 with full IFR capabilities (all my Dad's planes.)  Dad had an 
instructor's rating, so I often got to fly left seat in the Bonanza, unless we 
were full IFR.

I don't like having a shoebox on my head, thank you very much.

We had an A&P guy at our FBO that was old as the hills.  "Smokey" as he was 
known, had a Luscomb that he used to fly to Florida in every winter.  We often 
joked that we could drive to Florida quicker than Smokey could fly...

Dan



On Aug 12, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

> A 150 is capable of slow flight at about 30-35 mph, and when you have a nice 
> headwind you can almost hover.  The windows open too so you can stick your 
> arm out, and shout at people on the ground.  This makes for great fun over 
> golf courses, in particular when the golf course is located on the final 
> approach to the airport, and the engine is throttled back and it makes very 
> little noise.
> 
> Not that I would have any direct knowledge of that sort of thing...
> 
> --R
> 
> On 8/12/12 3:42 PM, Fmiser wrote:
>>> WILTON wrote:
>>> 'Reminds me:  SWMBO and I flew a [Cessna] 150 into Mackinac
>>> Island, MI, one Sunday for lunch at the Grand Hotel; joined
>>> right in the pattern, etc., with the [Cessna] Citations, etc.,
>>> ('course, coupla of 'em had to go around while I landed and
>>> got out of the way).
>> What?  Your 150 couldn't keep up the pace set by the Citations
>> and Learjets?  You just weren't trying hard enough. *smiles*
>> 
>> For the non-flying, a Cessna 150 is small 2-seat, overhead wing,
>> piston engined 'plane.  The Citation is a business jet.
>> 
>> The Citation stall speed (minimum speed necessary to stay
>> flying) is about the same as the 150's cruise speed.
>> 
>> --Philip
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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test

[WILTON]

150 small - very small

Wilton

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Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test



WILTON wrote:



'Reminds me:  SWMBO and I flew a [Cessna] 150 into Mackinac
Island, MI, one Sunday for lunch at the Grand Hotel; joined
right in the pattern, etc., with the [Cessna] Citations, etc.,
('course, coupla of 'em had to go around while I landed and
got out of the way).


What?  Your 150 couldn't keep up the pace set by the Citations
and Learjets?  You just weren't trying hard enough. *smiles*

For the non-flying, a Cessna 150 is small 2-seat, overhead wing,
piston engined 'plane.  The Citation is a business jet.

The Citation stall speed (minimum speed necessary to stay
flying) is about the same as the 150's cruise speed.

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test

[WILTON]

Four years (May 71 - Jul 75) at Kincheloe AFB, MI, 22 mi south of Sault Ste. 
Marie; not quite six years Robins, GA (Oct 62 - Jun 68); 2 1/2 years (Mar 
79 - Nov 81) Seymour Johnson, NC, lotsa low level all around, even up and 
down mountains and mountain valleys in Rockies, Sierras, Appalachians, NY, 
Ontario, NC, TN, KY, MO, NM, CO, CA, NV, etc., plains of NE, KS, Dakotas, 
many areas I can't remember.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test


Where were you stationed, KI Sawyer? We used to see bombers and tankers 
from that base fly over our home in central Wisconsin frequently. There 
were hills and high country in that part of the state; we speculated that 
the low level bomber passes were training to avoid radar.

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD

WILTON  wrote:

Enough B-52 flying; not enough 172; enjoyable little airplane; enjoyed 
182,

also; enjoyed 177RG more, though.

'Reminds me: SWMBO and I flew a 150 into Mackinac Island, MI, one Sunday
for lunch at the Grand Hotel; joined right in the pattern, etc., with the
Citations, etc., ('course, coupla of 'em had to go around while I landed 
and
got out of the way). Pulled up and parked in a line of the jets, got on 
the

carriage and went to lunch with 'em just like we were "somebody," too.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test



What would you like to talk about? We could start a tire or oil
discussion or evaluate the MBs on Craiglist and Ebay. What are you doing
for entertainment lately? The local airport takes up pilots who aren't
licensced and lets them fly if they show themselves to be capable.
Daughter bought me an hour for my birthday several years ago and it was
fun. The 172 is easy to fly. Of course, you may have already had more
than enough flying.
Gerry

From: "WILTON" 

Maybe I'm shell shocked.
Wilton

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Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test



Well, it came through; maybe I'm not lost.
Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "WILTON" 



Nothing from list this morning. Anybody there?
Wilton



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Re: [MBZ] any interest in '83 300D for parts or project?

[Allan Streib]

Thanks for the offer, but I'm looking to pare down not go sideways :).

Allan

Curt Raymond  writes:

> Late summer is the time when the automotive heart goes wandering. I've also 
> had thoughts of a new to me car. Fred tempted me with a stack of turbo 201s 
> but my wife threatened...
>
> Trade for a '77 240D 3 pedal in similar condition? ;)
>
> Dwight and I had joked about sharing our 123 cars, just swapping back and 
> forth as time allowed. That would allow us to each have a "new" car every few 
> months.

-- 
1983 300D
1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test

[Rich Thomas]

A 150 is capable of slow flight at about 30-35 mph, and when you have a 
nice headwind you can almost hover.  The windows open too so you can 
stick your arm out, and shout at people on the ground.  This makes for 
great fun over golf courses, in particular when the golf course is 
located on the final approach to the airport, and the engine is 
throttled back and it makes very little noise.


Not that I would have any direct knowledge of that sort of thing...

--R

On 8/12/12 3:42 PM, Fmiser wrote:

WILTON wrote:
'Reminds me:  SWMBO and I flew a [Cessna] 150 into Mackinac
Island, MI, one Sunday for lunch at the Grand Hotel; joined
right in the pattern, etc., with the [Cessna] Citations, etc.,
('course, coupla of 'em had to go around while I landed and
got out of the way).

What?  Your 150 couldn't keep up the pace set by the Citations
and Learjets?  You just weren't trying hard enough. *smiles*

For the non-flying, a Cessna 150 is small 2-seat, overhead wing,
piston engined 'plane.  The Citation is a business jet.

The Citation stall speed (minimum speed necessary to stay
flying) is about the same as the 150's cruise speed.

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D fuel injector operation

[Fmiser]

> Mike Esh wrote:

> Does anyone have a drawing, diagram, or schematic of the fuel
> flow from the tank through the injection pump and back?  I
> removed all lines and hoses trying to find an air leak and now
> I cannot get fuel to pump by cranking or with the hand pump.
> I thought I had it labeled pretty well when i pulled things
> apart, however I have tried so many combinations that now I am
> totally confused.  Any help would be appreciated.

Well, there's not much to it.  Are you working just under the
hood?  Or the tank fitting too?

I just did a quick survey of my fleet, '78 to '85.

Under the hood, there are two hard-lines that go aft.  The upper
one is the tank return line, the lower one is supply.  The supply
line is connected via a rubber hose to the pre-filter.  

The output of the pre-filter is hosed to the primer pump.

The output of the primer pump is connected to the aft side-mount
fitting on the spin-on filter housing with "clear" plastic hose.

Forward, but still on side mount on the spin-on housing is the
hard-line filter outlet that goes to the injector pump inlet.

The injector pump return, the injector return, and the "cigar"
hose all connect to a top-mount fitting on the spin-on-filter
housing.

The "cigar" hose connects to the hard-line return to the tank.

I have some photos if you are interested.

-- Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Great deal from CL idiot on an AMG

[Rich Thomas]

oh no say it ain't so!  She promised to send me the keys and title from 
Nigeria once I deposit the check tomorrow!


--R

On 8/12/12 3:53 PM, John Freer wrote:

Not an idiot just a spammer. Do not click the url.
John
On Aug 12, 2012 12:28 PM, "Rich Thomas" <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:


Yolanda probably dropped a 0


"2004 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG - $3656 (charleston)"


http://charleston.craigslist.**org/ctd/3200267375.html

--R


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Re: [MBZ] Great deal from CL idiot on an AMG

[John Freer]

Not an idiot just a spammer. Do not click the url.
John
On Aug 12, 2012 12:28 PM, "Rich Thomas" <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> Yolanda probably dropped a 0
>
>
>"2004 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG - $3656 (charleston)"
>
>
> http://charleston.craigslist.**org/ctd/3200267375.html
>
> --R
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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test

[Max Dillon]

Should say "heat" not "great".
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD

Max Dillon  wrote:

>Wonder how much great came down on Tower for that one...
>-- 
>

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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test

[Curt Raymond]

I finally made time to cut the grass today, it'd been way too long and part of 
the yard was a total hay field.
My wife had tried to start the old Snapper last week but it wouldn't go. Today 
I discovered that the auto choke had stuck on, its done that before too. Its 
one of those systems where you push the throttle all the way up to engage. 

I'm thinking its time to convert to a manual choke. I've found that the detent 
for max-throttle isn't very pronounced so occasionally it'll slip the choke on 
while I'm mowing and the engine spits and pops until I figure out whats going 
on and slip it back just slightly.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 12:40:39 -0400
From: "WILTON" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test
Message-ID: <5AC47638A23F46FB84A2B7EC71FB9A01@wiltonPC>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=response

Well, if it doesn't rain, storm, etc., I may go out in coupla hours and cut 
the weeds/grass.
Hafta pump up both rear tires on the John Deere; front tire I slimed several 
years ago still holding up.
Might oughta (that's Southern for "maybe I should" just in case any of 
"youse guys/y'all" have trouble translating) slime the rear ones.

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] any interest in '83 300D for parts or project?

[Curt Raymond]

Late summer is the time when the automotive heart goes wandering. I've also had 
thoughts of a new to me car. Fred tempted me with a stack of turbo 201s but my 
wife threatened...

Trade for a '77 240D 3 pedal in similar condition? ;)

Dwight and I had joked about sharing our 123 cars, just swapping back and forth 
as time allowed. That would allow us to each have a "new" car every few months.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 12:33:28 -0400
From: "WILTON" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] any interest in '83 300D for parts or project?
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

Curt?  'Could even roller paint the hood.
Pity to see a good machine and old friend just die or fade away.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Allan Streib" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 11:51 AM
Subject: [MBZ] any interest in '83 300D for parts or project?


> I'm thinking of unloading my '83 300D.  It's been a good car, and I've
> certainly gotten my money's worth out of it, but I have too many cars
> and too little time.
> 
> It has a good engine and transmission (B2 replacement done), but the
> front end will need a rebuild, it's rather sloppy and noisy.  AC does
> not work, suspect leaky evap.  Heat and ACC does work.  Also has rust
> starting around fenders, and the paint on the hood is dead.
> 
> As a small bonus it does have euro headlights fitted.
> 
> All in all it's probably better as a parts car but could be used as
> beater or even a primary car if you're not too concerned about
> appearance, assuming you did the front-end work.
> 
> Any interest?
> 
> Allan
> --
> 1983 300D
> 1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test

[Fmiser]

> WILTON wrote:

> 'Reminds me:  SWMBO and I flew a [Cessna] 150 into Mackinac
> Island, MI, one Sunday for lunch at the Grand Hotel; joined
> right in the pattern, etc., with the [Cessna] Citations, etc.,
> ('course, coupla of 'em had to go around while I landed and
> got out of the way).

What?  Your 150 couldn't keep up the pace set by the Citations
and Learjets?  You just weren't trying hard enough. *smiles*

For the non-flying, a Cessna 150 is small 2-seat, overhead wing,
piston engined 'plane.  The Citation is a business jet.

The Citation stall speed (minimum speed necessary to stay
flying) is about the same as the 150's cruise speed.

--Philip

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[MBZ] Great deal from CL idiot on an AMG

[Rich Thomas]

Yolanda probably dropped a 0


   "2004 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG - $3656 (charleston)"


http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/3200267375.html

--R


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[MBZ] CL Idiot -- cheap 1988 300 SE Mercedes parked parks car

[Rich Thomas]

" parked due to water pump leaking, great to fix up or parks car. asking 
$800"


--R
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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test

[Max Dillon]

Where were you stationed, KI Sawyer? We used to see bombers and tankers from 
that base fly over our home in central Wisconsin frequently. There were hills 
and high country in that part of the state; we speculated that the low level 
bomber passes were training to avoid radar.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD

WILTON  wrote:

Enough B-52 flying; not enough 172; enjoyable little airplane; enjoyed 182, 
also; enjoyed 177RG more, though.

'Reminds me: SWMBO and I flew a 150 into Mackinac Island, MI, one Sunday 
for lunch at the Grand Hotel; joined right in the pattern, etc., with the 
Citations, etc., ('course, coupla of 'em had to go around while I landed and 
got out of the way). Pulled up and parked in a line of the jets, got on the 
carriage and went to lunch with 'em just like we were "somebody," too.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Gerry Archer" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test


> What would you like to talk about? We could start a tire or oil 
> discussion or evaluate the MBs on Craiglist and Ebay. What are you doing 
> for entertainment lately? The local airport takes up pilots who aren't 
> licensced and lets them fly if they show themselves to be capable. 
> Daughter bought me an hour for my birthday several years ago and it was 
> fun. The 172 is easy to fly. Of course, you may have already had more 
> than enough flying.
> Gerry
>
> From: "WILTON" 
>> Maybe I'm shell shocked.
>> Wilton
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "WILTON" 
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:27 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test
>>
>>
>>> Well, it came through; maybe I'm not lost.
>>> Wilton
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "WILTON" 
>>>
 Nothing from list this morning. Anybody there?
 Wilton
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test

[Max Dillon]

Wonder how much great came down on Tower for that one...
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD

Rich Thomas  wrote:

When I was flying small airplanes this was an experience one Sunday 
afternoon:

Inbound control: 26N contact tower on nnn
ME: Fort Wayne tower 26N is with you downwind for 22
Tower: 26N you are cleared to land advise turning final
ME: clickclick
A few seconds later
United 727 inbound: Tower United xx with you inbound for 22
Tower: United you are cleared to land 22
ME (a bit later): 26N turning final for 22
Tower (a few seconds later, somewhat anxious): United xx go around for 
traffic on short final repeat go around please
United xx (pilot sounding REALLY pissed): Roger tower United xx going 
around for 22
Tower: 26N please advise when clearing the runway and contact ground on 


--R


On 8/12/12 1:52 PM, WILTON wrote:
> 'Reminds me: SWMBO and I flew a 150 into Mackinac Island, MI, one 
> Sunday for lunch at the Grand Hotel; joined right in the pattern, 
> etc., with the Citations, etc., ('course, coupla of 'em had to go 
> around while I landed and got out of the way). 


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Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D fuel injector operation

[Max Dillon]

Nothing on the 123 cd?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD

Mike Esh  wrote:

Does anyone have a drawing, diagram, or schematic of the fuel flow from the 
tank through the injection pump and back? I removed all lines and hoses trying 
to find an air leak and now I cannot get fuel to pump by cranking or with the 
hand pump. I thought I had it labeled pretty well when i pulled things apart, 
however I have tried so many combinations that now I am totally confused. Any 
help would be appreciated.
Thanks, 
Mike in Michigan

Michael E. Esh



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Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D fuel injector operation

[Max Dillon]

EPC might also have a diagram, let me take a look.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD

Mike Esh  wrote:

Does anyone have a drawing, diagram, or schematic of the fuel flow from the 
tank through the injection pump and back? I removed all lines and hoses trying 
to find an air leak and now I cannot get fuel to pump by cranking or with the 
hand pump. I thought I had it labeled pretty well when i pulled things apart, 
however I have tried so many combinations that now I am totally confused. Any 
help would be appreciated.
Thanks, 
Mike in Michigan

Michael E. Esh



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Re: [MBZ] any interest in '83 300D for parts or project?

[Allan Streib]

I have a couple of other cars that I might be sending to the crusher.
Anyone know of a good ballpark rule of thumb to estimate what I might
get based on weight?  Depending how they pay I might let a charity take
them and take the tax deduction.

Allan

-- 
1983 300D
1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test

[Rich Thomas]

When I was flying small airplanes this was an experience one Sunday 
afternoon:


Inbound control:  26N contact tower on nnn
ME:  Fort Wayne tower 26N is with you downwind for 22
Tower:  26N you are cleared to land advise turning final
ME:  clickclick
A few seconds later
United 727 inbound:  Tower United xx with you inbound for 22
Tower:  United you are cleared to land 22
ME (a bit later): 26N turning final for 22
Tower (a few seconds later, somewhat anxious):   United xx go around for 
traffic on short final repeat go around please
United xx (pilot sounding REALLY pissed):  Roger tower United xx going 
around for 22
Tower:  26N please advise when clearing the runway and contact ground on 



--R


On 8/12/12 1:52 PM, WILTON wrote:
'Reminds me:  SWMBO and I flew a 150 into Mackinac Island, MI, one 
Sunday for lunch at the Grand Hotel; joined right in the pattern, 
etc., with the Citations, etc., ('course, coupla of 'em had to go 
around while I landed and got out of the way). 



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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test

[WILTON]

Enough B-52 flying; not enough 172; enjoyable little airplane; enjoyed 182, 
also; enjoyed 177RG more, though.


'Reminds me:  SWMBO and I flew a 150 into Mackinac Island, MI, one Sunday 
for lunch at the Grand Hotel; joined right in the pattern, etc., with the 
Citations, etc., ('course, coupla of 'em had to go around while I landed and 
got out of the way).  Pulled up and parked in a line of the jets, got on the 
carriage and went to lunch with 'em just like we were "somebody," too.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Gerry Archer" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test


What would you like to talk about?  We could start a tire or oil 
discussion or evaluate the MBs on Craiglist and Ebay.  What are you doing 
for entertainment lately?  The local airport takes up pilots who aren't 
licensced and lets them fly if they show themselves to be capable. 
Daughter bought me an hour for my birthday several years ago and it was 
fun.  The 172 is easy to fly.  Of course, you may have already had more 
than enough flying.

Gerry

From: "WILTON" 

Maybe I'm shell shocked.
Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "WILTON" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test



Well, it came through; maybe I'm not lost.
Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "WILTON" 



Nothing from list this morning.  Anybody there?
Wilton



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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test

[WILTON]

Well, if it doesn't rain, storm, etc., I may go out in coupla hours and cut 
the weeds/grass.
Hafta pump up both rear tires on the John Deere; front tire I slimed several 
years ago still holding up.
Might oughta (that's Southern for "maybe I should" just in case any of 
"youse guys/y'all" have trouble translating) slime the rear ones.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Gerry Archer" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test


What would you like to talk about?  We could start a tire or oil 
discussion or evaluate the MBs on Craiglist and Ebay.  What are you doing 
for entertainment lately?  The local airport takes up pilots who aren't 
licensced and lets them fly if they show themselves to be capable. 
Daughter bought me an hour for my birthday several years ago and it was 
fun.  The 172 is easy to fly.  Of course, you may have already had more 
than enough flying.

Gerry

From: "WILTON" 

Maybe I'm shell shocked.
Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "WILTON" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test



Well, it came through; maybe I'm not lost.
Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "WILTON" 



Nothing from list this morning.  Anybody there?
Wilton



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Re: [MBZ] any interest in '83 300D for parts or project?

[WILTON]

Curt?  'Could even roller paint the hood.
Pity to see a good machine and old friend just die or fade away.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Allan Streib" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 11:51 AM
Subject: [MBZ] any interest in '83 300D for parts or project?



I'm thinking of unloading my '83 300D.  It's been a good car, and I've
certainly gotten my money's worth out of it, but I have too many cars
and too little time.

It has a good engine and transmission (B2 replacement done), but the
front end will need a rebuild, it's rather sloppy and noisy.  AC does
not work, suspect leaky evap.  Heat and ACC does work.  Also has rust
starting around fenders, and the paint on the hood is dead.

As a small bonus it does have euro headlights fitted.

All in all it's probably better as a parts car but could be used as
beater or even a primary car if you're not too concerned about
appearance, assuming you did the front-end work.

Any interest?

Allan
--
1983 300D
1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] any interest in '83 300D for parts or project?

[Allan Streib]

Oh and it's also missing the passenger side interior door latch handle
(scavenged for use on my 300SD) but that should be pretty easy to find
in a yard (or from Kaleb?).

Allan Streib  writes:

> I'm thinking of unloading my '83 300D.  It's been a good car, and I've
> certainly gotten my money's worth out of it, but I have too many cars
> and too little time.
>
> It has a good engine and transmission (B2 replacement done), but the
> front end will need a rebuild, it's rather sloppy and noisy.  AC does
> not work, suspect leaky evap.  Heat and ACC does work.  Also has rust
> starting around fenders, and the paint on the hood is dead.
>
> As a small bonus it does have euro headlights fitted.
>
> All in all it's probably better as a parts car but could be used as
> beater or even a primary car if you're not too concerned about
> appearance, assuming you did the front-end work.
>
> Any interest?
>
> Allan
> --
> 1983 300D
> 1979 300SD

-- 
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[MBZ] any interest in '83 300D for parts or project?

[Allan Streib]

I'm thinking of unloading my '83 300D.  It's been a good car, and I've
certainly gotten my money's worth out of it, but I have too many cars
and too little time.

It has a good engine and transmission (B2 replacement done), but the
front end will need a rebuild, it's rather sloppy and noisy.  AC does
not work, suspect leaky evap.  Heat and ACC does work.  Also has rust
starting around fenders, and the paint on the hood is dead.

As a small bonus it does have euro headlights fitted.

All in all it's probably better as a parts car but could be used as
beater or even a primary car if you're not too concerned about
appearance, assuming you did the front-end work.

Any interest?

Allan
--
1983 300D
1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test

[Gerry Archer]

What would you like to talk about?  We could start a tire or oil discussion 
or evaluate the MBs on Craiglist and Ebay.  What are you doing for 
entertainment lately?  The local airport takes up pilots who aren't 
licensced and lets them fly if they show themselves to be capable.  Daughter 
bought me an hour for my birthday several years ago and it was fun.  The 172 
is easy to fly.  Of course, you may have already had more than enough 
flying.

Gerry

From: "WILTON" 

Maybe I'm shell shocked.
Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test



Well, it came through; maybe I'm not lost.
Wilton

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From: "WILTON" 



Nothing from list this morning.  Anybody there?
Wilton



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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test

[Dieselhead]

I think everyone is either sleeping in or out driving, or working on 
the car.  The list is quiet this morning.   Except Woger.  he is 
polishing his new car with a toothbrush.



Well, it came through; maybe I'm not lost.

Wilton

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Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:26 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Lost again? Test


Nothing from list this morning.  Anybody there?

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?

[WILTON]

BTW, my 91 350SDL heating/cooling had a "hunting" problem somewhat like that 
about a year and a half ago 'til I installed new kit in monovalve.  'Noticed 
you've found your monovalve to be in good condition.  'Hope new KLIMA fixes 
it.


Wilton

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From: "andrew strasfogel" 

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Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?



I doubt that is the problem, as this baby has been under cover and
babied over the past dozen or so years.   I will check the little
grille on the dash for suction, however.  I swapped in another klima
relay this morning so she can test it on the road later today.

On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 11:04 PM, WILTON  wrote:

Best , of course, is free or no additional cost.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Max Dillon" 


To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 10:07 PM

Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?



Yes, the second best kind!
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD

WILTON  wrote:

A $2 repair?

Wilton

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Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?


Classic symptoms of a deteriorated foam tube under the dash, which can 
be

replaced with similar tube from hardware store.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD

andrew strasfogel  wrote:

SWMBO's 1985 300CD AC has started to behave erratically, blowing hot
air one minute and cold the next. I checked the monovalve (perfect)
and swapped in another ACC push button module. Nothing changed.
What's odd is that the ACC seems to be "hunting" wile operating,
clicking the compressor on and off and cycling hot and cold air.
Could this be the klima relay? The par number is 001-545-74-05. I
have two 1985 turbodiesels so could swap one out to test but I looked
under the hood and didn't see it. Where is it located?

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Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?

[andrew strasfogel]

I doubt that is the problem, as this baby has been under cover and
babied over the past dozen or so years.   I will check the little
grille on the dash for suction, however.  I swapped in another klima
relay this morning so she can test it on the road later today.

On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 11:04 PM, WILTON  wrote:
> Best , of course, is free or no additional cost.
>
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Max Dillon" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 10:07 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
>
>
>> Yes, the second best kind!
>> --
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '95 E300
>> '87 300TD
>>
>> WILTON  wrote:
>>
>> A $2 repair?
>>
>> Wilton
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Max Dillon"
>> 
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 9:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
>>
>>
>>> Classic symptoms of a deteriorated foam tube under the dash, which can be
>>> replaced with similar tube from hardware store.
>>> --
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> '95 E300
>>> '87 300TD
>>>
>>> andrew strasfogel  wrote:
>>>
>>> SWMBO's 1985 300CD AC has started to behave erratically, blowing hot
>>> air one minute and cold the next. I checked the monovalve (perfect)
>>> and swapped in another ACC push button module. Nothing changed.
>>> What's odd is that the ACC seems to be "hunting" wile operating,
>>> clicking the compressor on and off and cycling hot and cold air.
>>> Could this be the klima relay? The par number is 001-545-74-05. I
>>> have two 1985 turbodiesels so could swap one out to test but I looked
>>> under the hood and didn't see it. Where is it located?
>>>
>>> _
>>
>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test

[WILTON]

Maybe I'm shell shocked.

Wilton

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Well, it came through; maybe I'm not lost.

Wilton

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Subject: [MBZ] Lost again? Test



Nothing from list this morning.  Anybody there?

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test

[WILTON]

Well, it came through; maybe I'm not lost.

Wilton

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Subject: [MBZ] Lost again? Test



Nothing from list this morning.  Anybody there?

Wilton
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[MBZ] Lost again? Test

[WILTON]

Nothing from list this morning.  Anybody there?

Wilton
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