Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
It's not bad, but you better have a good set of flare nut wrenches to do it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 22, 2014, at 10:14 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: That's good to know. Is it easy to r/r the sls valve as well? Easy-peasy on my W201, a real bear to get at on my S210. Don't know about your S123. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this
I do not carry full coverage on this vehicle Sent from my iPhone On Apr 22, 2014, at 11:11 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Check your insurance. Some policies include vandalism. Gerry On 4/22/2014 8:59 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: If they're down to primer or bare metal you're screwed. No Martha'ing could fix that. Martha/Poos/Dan On Apr 22, 2014, at 7:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I discovered the 5 year old decided to take a thumb tack to the hood and fender of my black 97 e300. This kid should know better! I will have to get photos but they appear to be deep and not sure if they will buff out. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
That's good to know. Is it easy to r/r the sls valve as well? I doubt it. Flare nuts, etc. Corrosion. Aluminum body... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 300sd oil pressure gauge
I think that is what my E300 did, connection on the back of the instrument cluster was loose. Gauge read full pressure as soon as the key was turned. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 22, 2014 10:51 PM, Ronald Courcy tron...@hotmail.com wrote: If w126 Gauge will read max if wire at sender is off or circuit is open. I found This out when I changed the oil pan a couple of months ago.Thanks Ron Courcy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] thick sls troubles
... why don't you call spring rise? When the leaves do, we will. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D
I should be on the green list, if you have one. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.comwrote: Yeah. I was getting suspended for bounces from anyone with yahoo dot com email addresses . I had to white list Dimitri, Curt, and Fred. Anyone I forgot? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. *From: *Mountain Man *Sent: *Tuesday, April 22, 2014 8:04 PM *To: *Mercedes Discussion List *Reply To: *Mercedes Discussion List *Subject: *Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D -Curt wrote: Don't do like me and forget that the fog lights don't work with the high beams on... Curt - you are using DMARC yahoomail and gmail puts your messages in SPAM. Mercedeslist has had an ongoing thread about DMARC for the past week. Yahoo processes all sbcglobal email - i.e. all the att email. Does our admin Dan/Kaleb know anything about this DMARC issue? Perhaps as professional IT Dan sees the DMARC yahoo issue? HOG really went wild on the markets today from what I heard - you should be up north... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
So with my symptoms (bouncy rear, inability to raise rear of the car under load), how likely is it that my valve is defective? On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: That's good to know. Is it easy to r/r the sls valve as well? I doubt it. Flare nuts, etc. Corrosion. Aluminum body... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this
I have a deep red Danish mid century rosewood coffee table. It has an oil finish, which is dull in places. How do I clean it? It also has a few water marks and cloudy patches. On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Hendrik and Fay wrote: Oooh dear, would insurance cover this? Remember you left it parked in Okie city a few days ago and only just discovered this. That brings back memories of my boleadoras, which I only threw once. I'd seen a National Geographic special on some savages that hunted birds with them and made a set out of small stones and dental floss. Landed on the back window of Mom's Rambler, and though the stones were rather small, the spinning seemed to impart extra impact, shattered the whole window. Since it was safety glass it was still there, but effectively the whole window was opaque. Dad reported it to insurance as 'kid throwing stones' and it processed as a zero deductible comprehensive claim. A friend of mine got together with his brother and washed their dad's new car for a surprise. They used their mom's Brillo pads to get it good and clean. They said it looked great when it was wet, or they wouldn't have done every square inch of the car that way. That little act of kindness earned them the worst butt-whipping of their lives. Mitch. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: So with my symptoms (bouncy rear, inability to raise rear of the car under load), how likely is it that my valve is defective? It wasn't unable to raise under load until they adjusted the valve, right? I suspect your valve is now out of adjustment. Might have also been out of adjustment to start with, especially if it was ever removed from the car when it had regular shocks on it. When I put a new to me valve on my 190E, before I hooked up the linkage I set the valve to drain, started the car, crawled under and raised and lowered the car a couple of times by moving the valve lever by hand. Then I knew the valve worked. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
No, the tech adjusted the valve to lower the car down to 14.5 and then we did the test, with the engine running. It NEVER budged from its sunken state until the two beefy techs got off of the tailgate. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: So with my symptoms (bouncy rear, inability to raise rear of the car under load), how likely is it that my valve is defective? It wasn't unable to raise under load until they adjusted the valve, right? I suspect your valve is now out of adjustment. Might have also been out of adjustment to start with, especially if it was ever removed from the car when it had regular shocks on it. When I put a new to me valve on my 190E, before I hooked up the linkage I set the valve to drain, started the car, crawled under and raised and lowered the car a couple of times by moving the valve lever by hand. Then I knew the valve worked. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
Sounds like your pump is not supplying sufficient pressure. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 23, 2014 10:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: No, the tech adjusted the valve to lower the car down to 14.5 and then we did the test, with the engine running. It NEVER budged from its sunken state until the two beefy techs got off of the tailgate. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: So with my symptoms (bouncy rear, inability to raise rear of the car under load), how likely is it that my valve is defective? It wasn't unable to raise under load until they adjusted the valve, right? I suspect your valve is now out of adjustment. Might have also been out of adjustment to start with, especially if it was ever removed from the car when it had regular shocks on it. When I put a new to me valve on my 190E, before I hooked up the linkage I set the valve to drain, started the car, crawled under and raised and lowered the car a couple of times by moving the valve lever by hand. Then I knew the valve worked. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
How would that impact the bounciness? On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like your pump is not supplying sufficient pressure. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 23, 2014 10:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: No, the tech adjusted the valve to lower the car down to 14.5 and then we did the test, with the engine running. It NEVER budged from its sunken state until the two beefy techs got off of the tailgate. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: So with my symptoms (bouncy rear, inability to raise rear of the car under load), how likely is it that my valve is defective? It wasn't unable to raise under load until they adjusted the valve, right? I suspect your valve is now out of adjustment. Might have also been out of adjustment to start with, especially if it was ever removed from the car when it had regular shocks on it. When I put a new to me valve on my 190E, before I hooked up the linkage I set the valve to drain, started the car, crawled under and raised and lowered the car a couple of times by moving the valve lever by hand. Then I knew the valve worked. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this
Can you define fraud? On 22/04/2014 6:58 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: Oooh dear, would insurance cover this? Remember you left it parked in Okie city a few days ago and only just discovered this. Hendrik who also has scratches on the Merc caused by careless kids On 23/04/14 09:12, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I discovered the 5 year old decided to take a thumb tack to the hood and fender of my black 97 e300. This kid should know better! I will have to get photos but they appear to be deep and not sure if they will buff out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
Meade Dillon wrote: Sounds like your pump is not supplying sufficient pressure. Huh? It was pumped up, too highly pumped up. (with help from too strong springs, we assume) Techs forced it down by adjusting the control valve until the fender lip was 14ish inches above the hub center. Then and only then would it not pump back up to 14 with two guys sitting on it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this
Randy Bennell wrote: Can you define fraud? Rather than commit insurance fraud (which he can't do because the car isn't insured), maybe he should sue Spencer's parents and make them pay to repaint the fender? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
No, the tech adjusted the valve to lower the car down to 14.5 and then we did the test, with the engine running. It NEVER budged from its sunken state until the two beefy techs got off of the tailgate. Doesn't sound like it's able to make pressure. Leaking valve internals? The system really is simple. Once you identify what the true symptoms are, the cause should be evident. Struts/spheres can't be wrong, except for the spheres leaking internally and losing pressure. If new enough, should be good. Struts can leak or rattle, but will always work. Struts need to rest in approximate center position. Car should be level then, but damage and vandalistic parts practices could interfere. Springs only provide _partial_ support. Pressure from pump through valve and into the spheres/struts does the rest. If car sinks due to load, valve will add more pressure to bring it back up to center. Car rises? Reverse. Gravity is expected to do the job. Valve has a base (resting) pressure setting. If that was broken, _and_ you had too-strong springs the car might sit at the correct height, or even high, and you wouldn't have the hydraulic system doing much at all that it should be doing. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this
On 23/04/2014 11:00 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Randy Bennell wrote: Can you define fraud? Rather than commit insurance fraud (which he can't do because the car isn't insured), maybe he should sue Spencer's parents and make them pay to repaint the fender? Mitch. ___ When you factor in all of the costs of parenthood, this will just be a small amount. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this
On 23/04/2014 9:32 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I have a deep red Danish mid century rosewood coffee table. It has an oil finish, which is dull in places. How do I clean it? It also has a few water marks and cloudy patches. Start with a big belt sander and some 40 grit belts. Work up to higher grit #'s. Or, you could just paint it pink. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm back in black
On 22/04/2014 9:43 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Too right. When my '85 went wrong it did it all at once and went VERY wrong. I was taking an offramp at speed (the day after a ChowdaQ actually) when all of a sudden the rear end went all weird. I thought we'd blown a tire... -Curt Does this apply to most MB models? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
Best answer yet - thanks, Jim. Do you think incorrect springs play a role too? On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: No, the tech adjusted the valve to lower the car down to 14.5 and then we did the test, with the engine running. It NEVER budged from its sunken state until the two beefy techs got off of the tailgate. Doesn't sound like it's able to make pressure. Leaking valve internals? The system really is simple. Once you identify what the true symptoms are, the cause should be evident. Struts/spheres can't be wrong, except for the spheres leaking internally and losing pressure. If new enough, should be good. Struts can leak or rattle, but will always work. Struts need to rest in approximate center position. Car should be level then, but damage and vandalistic parts practices could interfere. Springs only provide _partial_ support. Pressure from pump through valve and into the spheres/struts does the rest. If car sinks due to load, valve will add more pressure to bring it back up to center. Car rises? Reverse. Gravity is expected to do the job. Valve has a base (resting) pressure setting. If that was broken, _and_ you had too-strong springs the car might sit at the correct height, or even high, and you wouldn't have the hydraulic system doing much at all that it should be doing. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights
Gerry,
I've never seen a 123 with sealed beam fog lights. All of them were bulb in
housing. I've had 3 personally ('78 240D, '81 300TD and '83 240D) plus Dwight's
300CD and the '82 240D I took parts from in a junkyard.
Are your existing lights yellow or clear? I wonder if somebody subbed in
headlights or some other kind of lights.
-Curt
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 14:22:21 -0400
From: arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 83 300D
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On the subject of fog lights, I bought a pair of proper size foglights
from FLAPS for my '83 300D. When I got home and tried to install them,
they were not sealed beam but had removable bulbs and would not attach
to supporting structure for the old sealbeams, and the bulb assbly was
wire in rather than plug in.
Do the old sealed beams have to be special ordered someplace, or would I
be likely to find the small sealed beams if I keep checking with local
dealers?
Thanks,
Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
If the springs are too strong / too tall, and the pump cannot provide more than base pressure (cannot lift the rear when loaded), then the springs are carrying more weight than designed. Therefore the system is not balanced, with a bias toward the springs carrying the weight. Andrew's load test may have shown that the pump is weak and unable to provide sufficient pressure to lift a load. First step is to ensure the correct springs are installed, I think the system needs to be bled at the strut connections, the pump pressure is now suspect in my mind, and finally the valve can be adjusted and proper operation validated. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 23, 2014 11:56 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Meade Dillon wrote: Sounds like your pump is not supplying sufficient pressure. Huh? It was pumped up, too highly pumped up. (with help from too strong springs, we assume) Techs forced it down by adjusting the control valve until the fender lip was 14ish inches above the hub center. Then and only then would it not pump back up to 14 with two guys sitting on it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Taurus won't downshift into first
How about taking it to a transmission shop to see if there is any reasonable fix? Or finding a used transmission and putting it in? On 21/04/2014 8:13 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Maybe a change to Mobil 1 with a new filter? -Curt Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Drive it to the crusher, get cash, problem solved. Might be why she jumped on it when I offered her more than 1.5x crush value. I'm thinking a $60 ebay valve body with servos attached might help. Mitch. ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Taurus won't downshift into first
Randy Bennell wrote: How about taking it to a transmission shop to see if there is any reasonable fix? Former owner said took it to a tranny shop and he told her something about a stuck piston. I've since found out some other things she said weren't true, so I'm discounting that a bit. Then there's the general assumption that tranny shop mechanics just know how to disassemble, install rebuild kits and adjust to specs and bill $3k without needing to know how to diagnose. One of my first thoughts was to take the tranny man from the local Ford dealer out to lunch, assuming they actually fix transmissions there. Or finding a used transmission and putting it in? Found a used tranny for $275, and used valve bodies are $50-75 on eBay. I'd hate to do either and then find out I still have the problem because it was in the wiring outside the tranny. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
Meade Dillon wrote: First step is to ensure the correct springs are installed, I think the system needs to be bled at the strut connections, the pump pressure is now suspect in my mind, and finally the valve can be adjusted and proper operation validated. Sounds like a plan. Are you volunteering to visit DC and demonstrate it to Andy? He'd probably fill your trunk (maybe just your glove box) with home canned Jalapeño jelly. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
Already made the offer, no response.. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 23, 2014 12:23 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Meade Dillon wrote: First step is to ensure the correct springs are installed, I think the system needs to be bled at the strut connections, the pump pressure is now suspect in my mind, and finally the valve can be adjusted and proper operation validated. Sounds like a plan. Are you volunteering to visit DC and demonstrate it to Andy? He'd probably fill your trunk (maybe just your glove box) with home canned Jalapeño jelly. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Taurus won't downshift into first
On 23/04/2014 11:19 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Randy Bennell wrote: How about taking it to a transmission shop to see if there is any reasonable fix? Former owner said took it to a tranny shop and he told her something about a stuck piston. I've since found out some other things she said weren't true, so I'm discounting that a bit. Then there's the general assumption that tranny shop mechanics just know how to disassemble, install rebuild kits and adjust to specs and bill $3k without needing to know how to diagnose. One of my first thoughts was to take the tranny man from the local Ford dealer out to lunch, assuming they actually fix transmissions there. Or finding a used transmission and putting it in? Found a used tranny for $275, and used valve bodies are $50-75 on eBay. I'd hate to do either and then find out I still have the problem because it was in the wiring outside the tranny. Mitch. ___ What year is the car? Any chance that the fancier code readers that work while one is driving the vehicle might provide a clue or two? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Kaleb
Any progress on the car with the questionable oil pressure? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
Yeah, a very tempting offer. I would first need to confirm that the springs are different from my other wagon, then acquire a floor jack + jack stands. Hope to have the springs questions sorted out this week so next week I could entertain doing something about it. Meade - do you live in the DC area or SC? On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: Already made the offer, no response.. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 23, 2014 12:23 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Meade Dillon wrote: First step is to ensure the correct springs are installed, I think the system needs to be bled at the strut connections, the pump pressure is now suspect in my mind, and finally the valve can be adjusted and proper operation validated. Sounds like a plan. Are you volunteering to visit DC and demonstrate it to Andy? He'd probably fill your trunk (maybe just your glove box) with home canned Jalapeño jelly. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Taurus won't downshift into first
Randy Bennell wrote: On 23/04/2014 11:19 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Randy Bennell wrote: How about taking it to a transmission shop to see if there is any reasonable fix? Former owner said took it to a tranny shop and he told her something about a stuck piston. I've since found out some other things she said weren't true, so I'm discounting that a bit. Then there's the general assumption that tranny shop mechanics just know how to disassemble, install rebuild kits and adjust to specs and bill $3k without needing to know how to diagnose. One of my first thoughts was to take the tranny man from the local Ford dealer out to lunch, assuming they actually fix transmissions there. Or finding a used transmission and putting it in? Found a used tranny for $275, and used valve bodies are $50-75 on eBay. I'd hate to do either and then find out I still have the problem because it was in the wiring outside the tranny. Mitch. ___ What year is the car? Any chance that the fancier code readers that work while one is driving the vehicle might provide a clue or two? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. The Ford one would probably tell a lot, and they'd probably charge me half the price of the used tranny to hook it up. Better yet would be finding somebody who knows how the trans works and what could possibly prevent a mechanically sound trans from downshifting into first when it upshifts into first reliably. The really stupid part is that I didn't bother to hook up my basic OBD-II box to it. I should do that and look at the bulkhead connector this afternoon. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm back in black
Randy Bennell wrote: On 22/04/2014 9:43 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Too right. When my '85 went wrong it did it all at once and went VERY wrong. I was taking an offramp at speed (the day after a ChowdaQ actually) when all of a sudden the rear end went all weird. I thought we'd blown a tire... -Curt Does this apply to most MB models? Does not apply to cars prior to W201. Applies equally to W124 and W201, as they are mechanically nearly identical. Not sure about other newer cars. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb
Transfer case blew up on the gl, so had not had time to get back to the 115. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Any progress on the car with the questionable oil pressure? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] sls troubles
Folks ok today is the day! We're going jack my 82 300TD way up and change the accumulators and the fluid mine has the crappy ride and sinks when parked a while no apparent leaks in the system i'll be interested to see what changes that brings As for the SLS control valve, those have a great tendency to strip the aluminum body threads when removed I have a couple of junk valves that someone did that on. If you are rescuing a control valve from a junker, i'd suggest cutting the hoses and then soaking the unit and removing the fittings on the bench VERY CAREFULLY thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] sls troubles
Folks ok today is the day! We're going jack my 82 300TD way up and change the accumulators and the fluid mine has the crappy ride and sinks when parked a while no apparent leaks in the system i'll be interested to see what changes that brings As for the SLS control valve, those have a great tendency to strip the aluminum body threads when removed I have a couple of junk valves that someone did that on. If you are rescuing a control valve from a junker, i'd suggest cutting the hoses and then soaking the unit and removing the fittings on the bench VERY CAREFULLY thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights
i had to replace a fog light in our '85, and it was a sealed beam. i'm
fairly certain it was a plug-in deal.
quotes for replacements were rather high a few years ago, and i
heard a story about how there was something used in the manufacture of
them that had since been qualified as a hazardous material and that
was why they now cost so much. IIRC, this related specifically to the
yellow ones (which i thought started somewhere around 1982).
i was lucky enough to find a decent replacement at a local MBZ
shop. were i to need to replace one again, i would give serious
consideration to just wiring in a set of small modern lamps, but i'd
miss the look of those old yellow things.
cheers!
e
On 23/Apr/14 09:16, Curt Raymond wrote:
Gerry,
I've never seen a 123 with sealed beam fog lights. All of them were bulb in
housing. I've had 3 personally ('78 240D, '81 300TD and '83 240D) plus Dwight's
300CD and the '82 240D I took parts from in a junkyard.
Are your existing lights yellow or clear? I wonder if somebody subbed in
headlights or some other kind of lights.
-Curt
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 14:22:21 -0400
From: arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 83 300D
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On the subject of fog lights, I bought a pair of proper size foglights
from FLAPS for my '83 300D. When I got home and tried to install them,
they were not sealed beam but had removable bulbs and would not attach
to supporting structure for the old sealbeams, and the bulb assbly was
wire in rather than plug in.
Do the old sealed beams have to be special ordered someplace, or would I
be likely to find the small sealed beams if I keep checking with local
dealers?
Thanks,
Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
Max lives in Mt. UnPleasant, SC. he has my spring compressor, which we were going to buy together, or he was going to buy from me, but I just paid for it and am keeping it whenever it finds its way back home. If you use it, you can pay some rent, preferably beer but no elmerdedelgato pepper stuff. --R On 4/23/14 1:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Meade - do you live in the DC area or SC? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights
Curt / Gerry, Not sure how you're meaning sealed beam. My 1983 300D has yellow fog lights that look just like the dual beam headlight, only they are yellow for fog. There is no removable bulb, etc. in them, just what I'd call a sealed beam unit. I see them occasionally on eBay for sale and they are generally somewhat expensive, at least compared to the $9.00 I paid a few years ago for the dual beam hi/lo headlight. Now my 1980 has driving lights that are under the bumper and they are bulbs inside a shielded case assembly, and they are clear for driving, not yellow for fog. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
el mer del gato = Ocean of the cat? On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Max lives in Mt. UnPleasant, SC. he has my spring compressor, which we were going to buy together, or he was going to buy from me, but I just paid for it and am keeping it whenever it finds its way back home. If you use it, you can pay some rent, preferably beer but no elmerdedelgato pepper stuff. --R On 4/23/14 1:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Meade - do you live in the DC area or SC? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
On 22/04/2014 8:25 PM, Craig wrote: On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:10:58 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I personally removed the rear springs on a 123 in order to check the pads, during a diffy transplant. It was not hard, nor scary. Front's a different story! WHAT JIM SAID!! In fact, you have to restrict the movement of the axles when changing the differential so you don't have the springs falling out. Craig ___ NO, NO, NO! We need to convince Andrew that it must be done as per the manual. Since none of us have the expensive spring compressor, he will be required to purchase one. Then, being the kind hearted and generous soul that he obviously is, he will lend it to us whenever we need it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this
Uh, good move. I should think that one would never openly admit child abuse, in writing, on the internet of all places. On 22/04/2014 8:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Uh no comment, it does seem appropriate though Sent from my iPhone On Apr 22, 2014, at 8:28 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:42:19 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I discovered the 5 year old decided to take a thumb tack to the hood and fender of my black 97 e300. This kid should know better! And I presume his bottom is as read as the '97 is black. Craig ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
But TWO list memebrs already own spring compressors. For me to purchase one would be duplicative, or triplicative if you prefer. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 22/04/2014 8:25 PM, Craig wrote: On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:10:58 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I personally removed the rear springs on a 123 in order to check the pads, during a diffy transplant. It was not hard, nor scary. Front's a different story! WHAT JIM SAID!! In fact, you have to restrict the movement of the axles when changing the differential so you don't have the springs falling out. Craig ___ NO, NO, NO! We need to convince Andrew that it must be done as per the manual. Since none of us have the expensive spring compressor, he will be required to purchase one. Then, being the kind hearted and generous soul that he obviously is, he will lend it to us whenever we need it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm back in black
Presumably anything with a 5 link rear suspension which AFAIK is everything after the 201. -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 11:12:45 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm back in black Message-ID: 5357e67d.7030...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 22/04/2014 9:43 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Too right. When my '85 went wrong it did it all at once and went VERY wrong. I was taking an offramp at speed (the day after a ChowdaQ actually) when all of a sudden the rear end went all weird. I thought we'd blown a tire... -Curt Does this apply to most MB models? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
Chuckietown, SC. Wilt - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] sls troubles Yeah, a very tempting offer. I would first need to confirm that the springs are different from my other wagon, then acquire a floor jack + jack stands. Hope to have the springs questions sorted out this week so next week I could entertain doing something about it. Meade - do you live in the DC area or SC? On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: Already made the offer, no response.. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 23, 2014 12:23 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Meade Dillon wrote: First step is to ensure the correct springs are installed, I think the system needs to be bled at the strut connections, the pump pressure is now suspect in my mind, and finally the valve can be adjusted and proper operation validated. Sounds like a plan. Are you volunteering to visit DC and demonstrate it to Andy? He'd probably fill your trunk (maybe just your glove box) with home canned Jalapeño jelly. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Fw: Come for your inheritance claim
New S class acomin'? Wilt - Original Message - From: Idris Aroma id.aroma2...@gmail.com To: barrgabg...@hotmail.com Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 7:40 AM Subject: Come for your inheritance claim Hello dear, With due respect, I was the personal attorney to my late foreign client, who shares the same surname with you. I need your help to claim his unclaimed estate valued at $14.5Million here in my country lome-togo. I am soliciting for your utmost assistance to stand as the next of kin to my deceased client for I will give you the details about his death and his unclaimed estate. Therefore, I plead you to contact me through my private email address to enable me give you full details about this matter for the best of your understanding. Please, contact me via: id_aroma2...@ymail.com Thank you, Barrister Idris Aroma, Esq. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] socks
Was it Curt who was extolling the joys of expensive footwear? http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/1358597/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
BUT . . . you are the one who wants one. And, they don't seem to know where it is right now. On 23/04/2014 1:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: But TWO list memebrs already own spring compressors. For me to purchase one would be duplicative, or triplicative if you prefer. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 22/04/2014 8:25 PM, Craig wrote: On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:10:58 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I personally removed the rear springs on a 123 in order to check the pads, during a diffy transplant. It was not hard, nor scary. Front's a different story! WHAT JIM SAID!! In fact, you have to restrict the movement of the axles when changing the differential so you don't have the springs falling out. Craig ___ NO, NO, NO! We need to convince Andrew that it must be done as per the manual. Since none of us have the expensive spring compressor, he will be required to purchase one. Then, being the kind hearted and generous soul that he obviously is, he will lend it to us whenever we need it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
Max has mine/[ours] --R On 4/23/14 3:21 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: BUT . . . you are the one who wants one. And, they don't seem to know where it is right now. On 23/04/2014 1:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: But TWO list memebrs already own spring compressors. For me to purchase one would be duplicative, or triplicative if you prefer. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 22/04/2014 8:25 PM, Craig wrote: On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:10:58 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I personally removed the rear springs on a 123 in order to check the pads, during a diffy transplant. It was not hard, nor scary. Front's a different story! WHAT JIM SAID!! In fact, you have to restrict the movement of the axles when changing the differential so you don't have the springs falling out. Craig ___ NO, NO, NO! We need to convince Andrew that it must be done as per the manual. Since none of us have the expensive spring compressor, he will be required to purchase one. Then, being the kind hearted and generous soul that he obviously is, he will lend it to us whenever we need it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
On 4/23/14 2:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: el merDE del gato = Sh*t of the cat? On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Max lives in Mt. UnPleasant, SC. he has my spring compressor, which we were going to buy together, or he was going to buy from me, but I just paid for it and am keeping it whenever it finds its way back home. If you use it, you can pay some rent, preferably beer but no elmerdedelgato pepper stuff. --R On 4/23/14 1:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Meade - do you live in the DC area or SC? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb
Does the GL have a US sourced transfer case like the old ML does? On Wednesday, April 23, 2014, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Transfer case blew up on the gl, so had not had time to get back to the 115. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.cajavascript:; wrote: Any progress on the car with the questionable oil pressure? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] W124 Evaporator RR
Hi Gang, It appears my question asking about the need to have vacuum hose on hand when I am replacing the Evap and the Vacuum Pods -- is it likely I will need to replace more than a few inches bu nipping the ends which may have become frayed? Thanks! LarryT 91 300D 2.5 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
You are just making this way too easy for Andrew. Did you folks buy the fancy, expensive, MB endorsed tool? On 23/04/2014 2:29 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Max has mine/[ours] --R On 4/23/14 3:21 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: BUT . . . you are the one who wants one. And, they don't seem to know where it is right now. On 23/04/2014 1:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: But TWO list memebrs already own spring compressors. For me to purchase one would be duplicative, or triplicative if you prefer. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 22/04/2014 8:25 PM, Craig wrote: On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:10:58 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I personally removed the rear springs on a 123 in order to check the pads, during a diffy transplant. It was not hard, nor scary. Front's a different story! WHAT JIM SAID!! In fact, you have to restrict the movement of the axles when changing the differential so you don't have the springs falling out. Craig ___ NO, NO, NO! We need to convince Andrew that it must be done as per the manual. Since none of us have the expensive spring compressor, he will be required to purchase one. Then, being the kind hearted and generous soul that he obviously is, he will lend it to us whenever we need it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Evaporator RR
LarryT. FWIW. I would have a couple of meters of necessary hoses on hand, before starting the project. The hose in there now is at least as old as the car. Not so? 1991 to 2014 is 13 plus years. Plus or minus 20db, of course. YMMV Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Larry l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 3:42 PM Subject: [MBZ] W124 Evaporator RR Hi Gang, It appears my question asking about the need to have vacuum hose on hand when I am replacing the Evap and the Vacuum Pods -- is it likely I will need to replace more than a few inches bu nipping the ends which may have become frayed? Thanks! LarryT 91 300D 2.5 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Taurus won't downshift into first
A LOT of these Taurus trannies were bad. Check it out but I would be careful about a used one. On Apr 23, 2014 12:10 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: How about taking it to a transmission shop to see if there is any reasonable fix? Or finding a used transmission and putting it in? On 21/04/2014 8:13 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Maybe a change to Mobil 1 with a new filter? -Curt Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Drive it to the crusher, get cash, problem solved. Might be why she jumped on it when I offered her more than 1.5x crush value. I'm thinking a $60 ebay valve body with servos attached might help. Mitch. ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Evaporator RR
Having NOT BTDT, I'd replace it while you have the chance now, rather than regretting not having done so in a few years. On Wednesday, April 23, 2014, Larry l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Gang, It appears my question asking about the need to have vacuum hose on hand when I am replacing the Evap and the Vacuum Pods -- is it likely I will need to replace more than a few inches bu nipping the ends which may have become frayed? Thanks! LarryT 91 300D 2.5 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D
From:Andrew StrasfogelSent:Wednesday, April 23, 2014 9:27 AMTo:Mercedes Discussion ListReply To:Mercedes Discussion ListSubject:Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300DI should be on the green list, if you have one.On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.comwrote: Yeah. I was getting suspended for bounces from anyone with yahoo dot com email addresses . I had to white list Dimitri, Curt, and Fred. Anyone I forgot?Green list... Hmm. Environmentally green? Green tea affectionado? Favorite smoking materials are green? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D
Hi Jim, I double checked the lights - they are not working in any situation - I am 100% sure they worked with the high and low beams on as well as the Park lights only on. I hadn't considered both bulbs being bad - I'll pull the bulbs and see if I am getting 12V to them. I wonder what might cause both bulbs to fail without any notice from the Light out sensor? I'll take a look at the wiring diagram also... Thanks for the suggestion - LarryT 91 300D On 4/22/2014 9:29 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: no lights, no warning of failed bulbs, nothing - just no fog lights. You sure the high beams aren't on? Both bulbs good? I'm 90% sure the fuses are DOWNSTREAM of the switch, so if they're hot (only with the switch on, of course) then that eliminates everything upstream. There's the lamp-out sensor box in there, I'm sure that could cause trouble. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
It is one of the knockoffs but quite stout. I bought it from a guy around here who had used it to put lower springs on a 560SEC. I used it on the SD when i did the front suspension last summer. The only problem with it is that when it bottoms out the threads did not engage the bottom so I ended up having to go to an autoparts store to borrow their external compressors to pull it in enough to get the bottom plate holder engaged to the screw. I had to crank on it a bit to do that, was a bit scary but once engaged it worked fine. I had uncompressed the spring as much as i could after removing it, and hit that problem. On the other side I did not uncompress it all the way, it worked fine. Not sure why it worked that way, but there it was... --R On 4/23/14 3:45 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: You are just making this way too easy for Andrew. Did you folks buy the fancy, expensive, MB endorsed tool? On 23/04/2014 2:29 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Max has mine/[ours] --R On 4/23/14 3:21 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: BUT . . . you are the one who wants one. And, they don't seem to know where it is right now. On 23/04/2014 1:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: But TWO list memebrs already own spring compressors. For me to purchase one would be duplicative, or triplicative if you prefer. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 22/04/2014 8:25 PM, Craig wrote: On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:10:58 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I personally removed the rear springs on a 123 in order to check the pads, during a diffy transplant. It was not hard, nor scary. Front's a different story! WHAT JIM SAID!! In fact, you have to restrict the movement of the axles when changing the differential so you don't have the springs falling out. Craig ___ NO, NO, NO! We need to convince Andrew that it must be done as per the manual. Since none of us have the expensive spring compressor, he will be required to purchase one. Then, being the kind hearted and generous soul that he obviously is, he will lend it to us whenever we need it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] socks
Those aren't expensive, Darn Tough socks are expensive... Although last weekend I got buy 1 get 1 half off... -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 15:14:52 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] socks Message-ID: 5358112c.80...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Was it Curt who was extolling the joys of expensive footwear? http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/1358597/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights
Well thats just weird...
Anybody else want to weigh in on this? I completely sure none of my 123 cars
has had sealed beam lights, theres a bulb held in by a little wire clippy. I'll
take a picture when I get home tonight. My '78 240D has clear driving lights
my '83 240D had yellow. My wagon had clear but I converted to yellow because I
like the look of them. I was going to convert the '78 but Dwight talked me out
of it. His CD has one of the yellow ones from my '83 240D.
Dr. Fatty's site shows (for an '83 240D anyway) exactly what I'm talking about.
It looks like he wants to sell the whole assembly but the bulb is not sealed
into the lens.
Thats what sealed beam means right? Where the bulb is sealed into the lens,
like the headlight...
-Curt
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 11:00:16 -0700
From: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights
Message-ID: 5357ffb0.5060...@backyardengineering.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
i had to replace a fog light in our '85, and it was a sealed beam. i'm
fairly certain it was a plug-in deal.
quotes for replacements were rather high a few years ago, and i
heard a story about how there was something used in the manufacture of
them that had since been qualified as a hazardous material and that
was why they now cost so much. IIRC, this related specifically to the
yellow ones (which i thought started somewhere around 1982).
i was lucky enough to find a decent replacement at a local MBZ
shop. were i to need to replace one again, i would give serious
consideration to just wiring in a set of small modern lamps, but i'd
miss the look of those old yellow things.
cheers!
e
On 23/Apr/14 09:16, Curt Raymond wrote:
Gerry,
I've never seen a 123 with sealed beam fog lights. All of them were bulb in
housing. I've had 3 personally ('78 240D, '81 300TD and '83 240D) plus
Dwight's 300CD and the '82 240D I took parts from in a junkyard.
Are your existing lights yellow or clear? I wonder if somebody subbed in
headlights or some other kind of lights.
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D
Also green for hope, green with envy? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2014, at 10:27 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I should be on the green list, if you have one. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.comwrote: Yeah. I was getting suspended for bounces from anyone with yahoo dot com email addresses . I had to white list Dimitri, Curt, and Fred. Anyone I forgot? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. *From: *Mountain Man *Sent: *Tuesday, April 22, 2014 8:04 PM *To: *Mercedes Discussion List *Reply To: *Mercedes Discussion List *Subject: *Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D -Curt wrote: Don't do like me and forget that the fog lights don't work with the high beams on... Curt - you are using DMARC yahoomail and gmail puts your messages in SPAM. Mercedeslist has had an ongoing thread about DMARC for the past week. Yahoo processes all sbcglobal email - i.e. all the att email. Does our admin Dan/Kaleb know anything about this DMARC issue? Perhaps as professional IT Dan sees the DMARC yahoo issue? HOG really went wild on the markets today from what I heard - you should be up north... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D
Yes, yes, no. -- Wednesday, 23 April 2014, 03:51PM -0400 from Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com: From: Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 9:27 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D I should be on the green list, if you have one. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.comwrote: Yeah. I was getting suspended for bounces from anyone with yahoo dot com email addresses . I had to white list Dimitri, Curt, and Fred. Anyone I forgot? Green list... Hmm. Environmentally green? Green tea affectionado? Favorite smoking materials are green? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D
You are a watermelon --R On 4/23/14 4:45 PM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, yes, no. -- Wednesday, 23 April 2014, 03:51PM -0400 from Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com: From: Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 9:27 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D I should be on the green list, if you have one. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.comwrote: Yeah. I was getting suspended for bounces from anyone with yahoo dot com email addresses . I had to white list Dimitri, Curt, and Fred. Anyone I forgot? Green list... Hmm. Environmentally green? Green tea affectionado? Favorite smoking materials are green? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 12:16:14 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Best answer yet - thanks, Jim. Do you think incorrect springs play a role too? Looking at his answer, Valve has a base (resting) pressure setting. If that was broken, _and_ you had too-strong springs the car might sit at the correct height, or even high, and you wouldn't have the hydraulic system doing much at all that it should be doing. one can surmise that the incorrect springs do play a role. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights
Curt,
Just called the FLAPS manager and explained the problem. He checked and
said I had been sold replacement bulbs for mounted driving lights
instead of the correct ones which are sealed beam. My '83 240D also has
sealed beams. I don't understand why you would have bulb in housing
lights while I have sealed beam. Perhaps yours are considered driving
lights rather than fog lights. Mine are inboard of the sealed beam
headlights and part of the same assembly.
Gerry
4/23/2014 12:16 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
Gerry,
I've never seen a 123 with sealed beam fog lights. All of them were bulb in
housing. I've had 3 personally ('78 240D, '81 300TD and '83 240D) plus Dwight's
300CD and the '82 240D I took parts from in a junkyard.
Are your existing lights yellow or clear? I wonder if somebody subbed in
headlights or some other kind of lights.
-Curt
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 14:22:21 -0400
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 83 300D
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On the subject of fog lights, I bought a pair of proper size foglights
from FLAPS for my '83 300D. When I got home and tried to install them,
they were not sealed beam but had removable bulbs and would not attach
to supporting structure for the old sealbeams, and the bulb assbly was
wire in rather than plug in.
Do the old sealed beams have to be special ordered someplace, or would I
be likely to find the small sealed beams if I keep checking with local
dealers?
Thanks,
Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights
I wonder if there are both sealed beam and bulb in housing lamps by
different manufacturers that fit the standard 123 headlight/fog light
assembly?
Gerry
On 4/23/2014 4:05 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
Well thats just weird...
Anybody else want to weigh in on this? I completely sure none of my 123 cars has had
sealed beam lights, theres a bulb held in by a little wire clippy. I'll take a picture
when I get home tonight. My '78 240D has clear driving lights my '83 240D had
yellow. My wagon had clear but I converted to yellow because I like the look of them. I
was going to convert the '78 but Dwight talked me out of it. His CD has one of the yellow
ones from my '83 240D.
Dr. Fatty's site shows (for an '83 240D anyway) exactly what I'm talking about.
It looks like he wants to sell the whole assembly but the bulb is not sealed
into the lens.
Thats what sealed beam means right? Where the bulb is sealed into the lens,
like the headlight...
-Curt
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 11:00:16 -0700
From: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights
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i had to replace a fog light in our '85, and it was a sealed beam. i'm
fairly certain it was a plug-in deal.
quotes for replacements were rather high a few years ago, and i
heard a story about how there was something used in the manufacture of
them that had since been qualified as a hazardous material and that
was why they now cost so much. IIRC, this related specifically to the
yellow ones (which i thought started somewhere around 1982).
i was lucky enough to find a decent replacement at a local MBZ
shop. were i to need to replace one again, i would give serious
consideration to just wiring in a set of small modern lamps, but i'd
miss the look of those old yellow things.
cheers!
e
On 23/Apr/14 09:16, Curt Raymond wrote:
Gerry,
I've never seen a 123 with sealed beam fog lights. All of them were bulb in
housing. I've had 3 personally ('78 240D, '81 300TD and '83 240D) plus Dwight's
300CD and the '82 240D I took parts from in a junkyard.
Are your existing lights yellow or clear? I wonder if somebody subbed in
headlights or some other kind of lights.
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
I'm moving into the house next to you... I'm in the D.C. area for a couple more days, don't know when I'll be back up. Window of opportunity is closing... Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 23, 2014 1:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, a very tempting offer. I would first need to confirm that the springs are different from my other wagon, then acquire a floor jack + jack stands. Hope to have the springs questions sorted out this week so next week I could entertain doing something about it. Meade - do you live in the DC area or SC? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
Actually we prefer Mount Plastic. Lunch next week? Pick a day, I'll bring along the compressor. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 23, 2014 2:00 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Max lives in Mt. UnPleasant, SC. he has my spring compressor, which we were going to buy together, or he was going to buy from me, but I just paid for it and am keeping it whenever it finds its way back home. If you use it, you can pay some rent, preferably beer but no elmerdedelgato pepper stuff. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this
Turpentine on a rag, outside. Wipe it down, scrub it, whatever, to get the old nasty stuff off (if indeed it is oil and not varnish or shellac). You can then put on more oil (tung oil or boiled linseed oil) or a Watco danish oil which is more like a varnish that you wipe on. You wipe it on, let it sit a few minutes, then wipe off the excess and let it dry. You will want to do several coats, maybe a day in between but not a lot longer. After a coat or two you might want to hit it with 400 or 600 grit sandpaper to take out the nibs, last time put on a thinned coat (mix in some of that turpentine), let it dry, then use some steel wool and paste wax to buff it up, let it sit a few minutes then buff with a soft cloth. Will look awesome. Or just give it to me. --R On 4/23/14 10:32 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I have a deep red Danish mid century rosewood coffee table. It has an oil finish, which is dull in places. How do I clean it? It also has a few water marks and cloudy patches. On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Hendrik and Fay wrote: Oooh dear, would insurance cover this? Remember you left it parked in Okie city a few days ago and only just discovered this. That brings back memories of my boleadoras, which I only threw once. I'd seen a National Geographic special on some savages that hunted birds with them and made a set out of small stones and dental floss. Landed on the back window of Mom's Rambler, and though the stones were rather small, the spinning seemed to impart extra impact, shattered the whole window. Since it was safety glass it was still there, but effectively the whole window was opaque. Dad reported it to insurance as 'kid throwing stones' and it processed as a zero deductible comprehensive claim. A friend of mine got together with his brother and washed their dad's new car for a surprise. They used their mom's Brillo pads to get it good and clean. They said it looked great when it was wet, or they wouldn't have done every square inch of the car that way. That little act of kindness earned them the worst butt-whipping of their lives. Mitch. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
Now there you go. If Andrew believes he must use the tool because the manual told him to, then he is also going to believe he must use the CORRECT TOOL! I doubt a knockoff will be sufficient for his purpose. On 23/04/2014 2:59 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: It is one of the knockoffs but quite stout. I bought it from a guy around here who had used it to put lower springs on a 560SEC. I used it on the SD when i did the front suspension last summer. The only problem with it is that when it bottoms out the threads did not engage the bottom so I ended up having to go to an autoparts store to borrow their external compressors to pull it in enough to get the bottom plate holder engaged to the screw. I had to crank on it a bit to do that, was a bit scary but once engaged it worked fine. I had uncompressed the spring as much as i could after removing it, and hit that problem. On the other side I did not uncompress it all the way, it worked fine. Not sure why it worked that way, but there it was... --R On 4/23/14 3:45 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: You are just making this way too easy for Andrew. Did you folks buy the fancy, expensive, MB endorsed tool? On 23/04/2014 2:29 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Max has mine/[ours] --R On 4/23/14 3:21 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: BUT . . . you are the one who wants one. And, they don't seem to know where it is right now. On 23/04/2014 1:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: But TWO list memebrs already own spring compressors. For me to purchase one would be duplicative, or triplicative if you prefer. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 22/04/2014 8:25 PM, Craig wrote: On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:10:58 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I personally removed the rear springs on a 123 in order to check the pads, during a diffy transplant. It was not hard, nor scary. Front's a different story! WHAT JIM SAID!! In fact, you have to restrict the movement of the axles when changing the differential so you don't have the springs falling out. Craig ___ NO, NO, NO! We need to convince Andrew that it must be done as per the manual. Since none of us have the expensive spring compressor, he will be required to purchase one. Then, being the kind hearted and generous soul that he obviously is, he will lend it to us whenever we need it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
Andrew has used the real thing. He is now spoiled:) Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2014, at 6:16 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Now there you go. If Andrew believes he must use the tool because the manual told him to, then he is also going to believe he must use the CORRECT TOOL! I doubt a knockoff will be sufficient for his purpose. On 23/04/2014 2:59 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: It is one of the knockoffs but quite stout. I bought it from a guy around here who had used it to put lower springs on a 560SEC. I used it on the SD when i did the front suspension last summer. The only problem with it is that when it bottoms out the threads did not engage the bottom so I ended up having to go to an autoparts store to borrow their external compressors to pull it in enough to get the bottom plate holder engaged to the screw. I had to crank on it a bit to do that, was a bit scary but once engaged it worked fine. I had uncompressed the spring as much as i could after removing it, and hit that problem. On the other side I did not uncompress it all the way, it worked fine. Not sure why it worked that way, but there it was... --R On 4/23/14 3:45 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: You are just making this way too easy for Andrew. Did you folks buy the fancy, expensive, MB endorsed tool? On 23/04/2014 2:29 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Max has mine/[ours] --R On 4/23/14 3:21 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: BUT . . . you are the one who wants one. And, they don't seem to know where it is right now. On 23/04/2014 1:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: But TWO list memebrs already own spring compressors. For me to purchase one would be duplicative, or triplicative if you prefer. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 22/04/2014 8:25 PM, Craig wrote: On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:10:58 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I personally removed the rear springs on a 123 in order to check the pads, during a diffy transplant. It was not hard, nor scary. Front's a different story! WHAT JIM SAID!! In fact, you have to restrict the movement of the axles when changing the differential so you don't have the springs falling out. Craig ___ NO, NO, NO! We need to convince Andrew that it must be done as per the manual. Since none of us have the expensive spring compressor, he will be required to purchase one. Then, being the kind hearted and generous soul that he obviously is, he will lend it to us whenever we need it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Come for your inheritance claim
Looks like a new s63 AMG in your driveway. With Nigerian trim kit of course. On Apr 23, 2014 3:07 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: New S class acomin'? Wilt - Original Message - From: Idris Aroma id.aroma2...@gmail.com To: barrgabg...@hotmail.com Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 7:40 AM Subject: Come for your inheritance claim Hello dear, With due respect, I was the personal attorney to my late foreign client, who shares the same surname with you. I need your help to claim his unclaimed estate valued at $14.5Million here in my country lome-togo. I am soliciting for your utmost assistance to stand as the next of kin to my deceased client for I will give you the details about his death and his unclaimed estate. Therefore, I plead you to contact me through my private email address to enable me give you full details about this matter for the best of your understanding. Please, contact me via: id_aroma2...@ymail.com Thank you, Barrister Idris Aroma, Esq. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Where's Rentfro?
Here's his next car: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/cto/4346227824.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Come for your inheritance claim
Something doesn't smell right about this deal. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 12:07 PM To: mercedes list Subject: [MBZ] Fw: Come for your inheritance claim New S class acomin'? Wilt - Original Message - From: Idris Aroma id.aroma2...@gmail.com To: barrgabg...@hotmail.com Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 7:40 AM Subject: Come for your inheritance claim Hello dear, With due respect, I was the personal attorney to my late foreign client, who shares the same surname with you. I need your help to claim his unclaimed estate valued at $14.5Million here in my country lome-togo. I am soliciting for your utmost assistance to stand as the next of kin to my deceased client for I will give you the details about his death and his unclaimed estate. Therefore, I plead you to contact me through my private email address to enable me give you full details about this matter for the best of your understanding. Please, contact me via: id_aroma2...@ymail.com Thank you, Barrister Idris Aroma, Esq. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Where's Rentfro?
Dan Penoff wrote: Here's his next car: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/cto/4346227824.html I just knew I was going to see a pic of a warm air intake with a useless cloth filter cone on the end, but there was always a possibility the filter in the engine compartment would be cylindrical and not conical. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb
Yea it's magna I believe Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2014, at 2:38 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Does the GL have a US sourced transfer case like the old ML does? On Wednesday, April 23, 2014, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Transfer case blew up on the gl, so had not had time to get back to the 115. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.cajavascript:; wrote: Any progress on the car with the questionable oil pressure? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Yea it's magna I believe So, who approves large attachments now, you or poosy? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Daily Driver for Don
Cessna 310 Racecar, “Spirit of LeMons” – Build Videos By Andrew Greene http://www.autofoundry.com/author/andrewgreene/ / 8 January 2013 / 3 comments http://www.autofoundry.com/643/cessna-310-racecar-spirit-of-lemons-build-videos/#comments LeMons-Cessna-310 http://www.autofoundry.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/LeMons-Cessna-310.jpg Jeff Bloch, cop and racecar driver, knows a thing or two about unique racing vehicles. A few years ago, Bloch, also known as Speedycop http://www.speedycop.com/, won the 24 hour LeMons race for driving the race’s most unique vehicle. The LeMons (not the more famous Le Mans) gives the top prize to the coolest vehicle on the track and its second place to car that travels the furthest distance. Bloch says he is ready to drive to victory again at the event that will take place at the Carolina Motorsports Park in Kershaw, South Carolina, in March with the racecar, dubbed the /Spirit of LeMons/, he is building out of the carcass of a Cessna 310 that he had found abandoned at Hyde Field outside Washington D.C. To make the vehicle not only unique but safe as well, the racecar is being equipped with a roll cage and rear-facing cameras instead of rearview and side-view mirrors. Here are videos of the build: http://www.autofoundry.com/643/cessna-310-racecar-spirit-of-lemons-build-videos/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb
Either. I just opened up a logjam of stuff. One of them was from Kaleb - it was too big. Busy day today - I forgot to check on things. Usually we get a message when there's a bunch of stuff in the queu, but I didn't get one today. Strange. FWIW, if someone sends a big message or attachment and it gets held, send me a not directly so I know it's there. You guys can't imagine the crap that gets sent to the list from all sorts of bizarre places. Lots of spam, too. Dan On Apr 23, 2014, at 8:45 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Yea it's magna I believe So, who approves large attachments now, you or poosy? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights
I'm forced to admit that possibility... Strange that I've only seen the bulb type. Can you take a pic of the sealed beam? -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 17:13:33 -0400 From: arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights Message-ID: 53582cfd.9010...@embarqmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I wonder if there are both sealed beam and bulb in housing lamps by different manufacturers that fit the standard 123 headlight/fog light assembly? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this
I would start out light, with some 3M Ultrafine polish and a 3M foam pad to see what comes out, if anything. The problem you're going to have is to be aggressive enough to get those out will affect the rest of the finish. That's if they aren't down to the primer or bare metal. Dan On Apr 23, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Here is a photo showing the damage. They may not be as deep as I thought and might buff out. Will have to give it a try I guess. Any suggestions poos? image.jpeg Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Come for your inheritance claim
Really? I get these scam messages all the time on my work email. Never hit the link. I find their creativity fascinating. On Apr 23, 2014 8:32 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: Something doesn't smell right about this deal. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 12:07 PM To: mercedes list Subject: [MBZ] Fw: Come for your inheritance claim New S class acomin'? Wilt - Original Message - From: Idris Aroma id.aroma2...@gmail.com To: barrgabg...@hotmail.com Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 7:40 AM Subject: Come for your inheritance claim Hello dear, With due respect, I was the personal attorney to my late foreign client, who shares the same surname with you. I need your help to claim his unclaimed estate valued at $14.5Million here in my country lome-togo. I am soliciting for your utmost assistance to stand as the next of kin to my deceased client for I will give you the details about his death and his unclaimed estate. Therefore, I plead you to contact me through my private email address to enable me give you full details about this matter for the best of your understanding. Please, contact me via: id_aroma2...@ymail.com Thank you, Barrister Idris Aroma, Esq. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Daily Driver for Don
Indeed! A guy at a recent auction bought a Commander 100 series fuselage that he was going to turn into a hot rod. Not as cool as a 310 though. On Tuesday, April 22, 2014, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Cessna 310 Racecar, “Spirit of LeMons” – Build Videos By Andrew Greene http://www.autofoundry.com/author/andrewgreene/ / 8 January 2013 / 3 comments http://www.autofoundry.com/ 643/cessna-310-racecar-spirit-of-lemons-build-videos/#comments LeMons-Cessna-310 http://www.autofoundry.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/ LeMons-Cessna-310.jpg Jeff Bloch, cop and racecar driver, knows a thing or two about unique racing vehicles. A few years ago, Bloch, also known as Speedycop http://www.speedycop.com/, won the 24 hour LeMons race for driving the race’s most unique vehicle. The LeMons (not the more famous Le Mans) gives the top prize to the coolest vehicle on the track and its second place to car that travels the furthest distance. Bloch says he is ready to drive to victory again at the event that will take place at the Carolina Motorsports Park in Kershaw, South Carolina, in March with the racecar, dubbed the /Spirit of LeMons/, he is building out of the carcass of a Cessna 310 that he had found abandoned at Hyde Field outside Washington D.C. To make the vehicle not only unique but safe as well, the racecar is being equipped with a roll cage and rear-facing cameras instead of rearview and side-view mirrors. Here are videos of the build: http://www.autofoundry.com/643/cessna-310-racecar-spirit- of-lemons-build-videos/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] I'm not even sure poos could fix this
So you think beating a child's ass is child abuse? Not enough ass beatings are what is wrong with this country these days. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2014, at 1:36 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Uh, good move. I should think that one would never openly admit child abuse, in writing, on the internet of all places. On 22/04/2014 8:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Uh no comment, it does seem appropriate though Sent from my iPhone On Apr 22, 2014, at 8:28 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:42:19 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I discovered the 5 year old decided to take a thumb tack to the hood and fender of my black 97 e300. This kid should know better! And I presume his bottom is as read as the '97 is black. Craig ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights
They are supposed to have replaceable bulbs, if they are sealed beam they are
aftermarket
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 23, 2014, at 4:02 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com
arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
Curt,
Just called the FLAPS manager and explained the problem. He checked and said
I had been sold replacement bulbs for mounted driving lights instead of the
correct ones which are sealed beam. My '83 240D also has sealed beams. I
don't understand why you would have bulb in housing lights while I have
sealed beam. Perhaps yours are considered driving lights rather than fog
lights. Mine are inboard of the sealed beam headlights and part of the same
assembly.
Gerry
4/23/2014 12:16 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
Gerry,
I've never seen a 123 with sealed beam fog lights. All of them were bulb in
housing. I've had 3 personally ('78 240D, '81 300TD and '83 240D) plus
Dwight's 300CD and the '82 240D I took parts from in a junkyard.
Are your existing lights yellow or clear? I wonder if somebody subbed in
headlights or some other kind of lights.
-Curt
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 14:22:21 -0400
From: arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 83 300D
Message-ID: 5356b35d.8030...@embarqmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
On the subject of fog lights, I bought a pair of proper size foglights
from FLAPS for my '83 300D. When I got home and tried to install them,
they were not sealed beam but had removable bulbs and would not attach
to supporting structure for the old sealbeams, and the bulb assbly was
wire in rather than plug in.
Do the old sealed beams have to be special ordered someplace, or would I
be likely to find the small sealed beams if I keep checking with local
dealers?
Thanks,
Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb
Usually poosy Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2014, at 7:45 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Yea it's magna I believe So, who approves large attachments now, you or poosy? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb
Yea now you know why it took me days sometimes, I do not check it daily. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Either. I just opened up a logjam of stuff. One of them was from Kaleb - it was too big. Busy day today - I forgot to check on things. Usually we get a message when there's a bunch of stuff in the queu, but I didn't get one today. Strange. FWIW, if someone sends a big message or attachment and it gets held, send me a not directly so I know it's there. You guys can't imagine the crap that gets sent to the list from all sorts of bizarre places. Lots of spam, too. Dan On Apr 23, 2014, at 8:45 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Yea it's magna I believe So, who approves large attachments now, you or poosy? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Where's Rentfro?
On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 20:32:46 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Dan Penoff wrote: Here's his next car: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/cto/4346227824.html I just knew I was going to see a pic of a warm air intake with a useless cloth filter cone on the end, but there was always a possibility the filter in the engine compartment would be cylindrical and not conical. Yes, a KN strainer in dusty Arizona. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Evaporator RR
Nearly all of it is hard plastic, which will be fine under the dash. In the engine compartment it's all brittle, but the under dash parts will be like new, even in a W123. You may need new rubber bits to connect the lines to the servos and the lines to the switchover valves, I had to replace all of the elbows on the valve when I did the TE, else it wasn't working right. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights
They're both installed in the car. I'll take a pic and post it as soon as I find replacements. Gerry On 4/23/2014 8:56 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I'm forced to admit that possibility... Strange that I've only seen the bulb type. Can you take a pic of the sealed beam? -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 17:13:33 -0400 From: arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights Message-ID: 53582cfd.9010...@embarqmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I wonder if there are both sealed beam and bulb in housing lamps by different manufacturers that fit the standard 123 headlight/fog light assembly? Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights
That's what I have, Roger. The lamp is like a large bulb with vacuum or some kind of gas sealed inside. When they first came out in the _(40s-50s?) there was a small bulb inside the sealed lamp. Later there was no bulb; just the filament inside the large lamp. There are three prongs on the back that plug into the typical three prong female plug. Gerry On 4/23/2014 2:08 PM, roger...@comcast.net wrote: Curt / Gerry, Not sure how you're meaning sealed beam. My 1983 300D has yellow fog lights that look just like the dual beam headlight, only they are yellow for fog. There is no removable bulb, etc. in them, just what I'd call a sealed beam unit. I see them occasionally on eBay for sale and they are generally somewhat expensive, at least compared to the $9.00 I paid a few years ago for the dual beam hi/lo headlight. Now my 1980 has driving lights that are under the bumper and they are bulbs inside a shielded case assembly, and they are clear for driving, not yellow for fog. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights
arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: That's what I have, Roger. The lamp is like a large bulb with vacuum or some kind of gas sealed inside. When they first came out in the _(40s-50s?) there was a small bulb inside the sealed lamp. Later there was no bulb; just the filament inside the large lamp. There are three prongs on the back that plug into the typical three prong female plug. OK, who here bought a 123 new, and kept it long enough to have to replace a fog lamp (bulb)? Wilton? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
Is there a way to test the pump for sufficient pressure? Is this even plausible? It doesn't leak and the fluid circulates. So how is there a problem? On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Now there you go. If Andrew believes he must use the tool because the manual told him to, then he is also going to believe he must use the CORRECT TOOL! I doubt a knockoff will be sufficient for his purpose. On 23/04/2014 2:59 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: It is one of the knockoffs but quite stout. I bought it from a guy around here who had used it to put lower springs on a 560SEC. I used it on the SD when i did the front suspension last summer. The only problem with it is that when it bottoms out the threads did not engage the bottom so I ended up having to go to an autoparts store to borrow their external compressors to pull it in enough to get the bottom plate holder engaged to the screw. I had to crank on it a bit to do that, was a bit scary but once engaged it worked fine. I had uncompressed the spring as much as i could after removing it, and hit that problem. On the other side I did not uncompress it all the way, it worked fine. Not sure why it worked that way, but there it was... --R On 4/23/14 3:45 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: You are just making this way too easy for Andrew. Did you folks buy the fancy, expensive, MB endorsed tool? On 23/04/2014 2:29 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Max has mine/[ours] --R On 4/23/14 3:21 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: BUT . . . you are the one who wants one. And, they don't seem to know where it is right now. On 23/04/2014 1:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: But TWO list memebrs already own spring compressors. For me to purchase one would be duplicative, or triplicative if you prefer. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 22/04/2014 8:25 PM, Craig wrote: On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:10:58 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I personally removed the rear springs on a 123 in order to check the pads, during a diffy transplant. It was not hard, nor scary. Front's a different story! WHAT JIM SAID!! In fact, you have to restrict the movement of the axles when changing the differential so you don't have the springs falling out. Craig ___ NO, NO, NO! We need to convince Andrew that it must be done as per the manual. Since none of us have the expensive spring compressor, he will be required to purchase one. Then, being the kind hearted and generous soul that he obviously is, he will lend it to us whenever we need it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Is there a way to test the pump for sufficient pressure? Is this even plausible? It doesn't leak and the fluid circulates. So how is there a problem? If fluid is being returned to the filter under the reservoir cap, I would feel safe in concluding that the pump is forcing fluid through the valve, and therefore the pump isn't the problem. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights
Kaleb, I have the originals in my 1983 300D plus a spare set I purchased on eBay about 12 years ago. Both are sealed beam. What makes you think it is aftermarket? Maybe it's the difference between US and Euro like the headlights on a 1980 300SD that people debate over which one looks best or gives the best visibility. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights
I bought a new '80 240D; had it 18 years before uninsured motorist on ragged pickup totaled it. Don't remember ever replacing fog bulb in it. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: That's what I have, Roger. The lamp is like a large bulb with vacuum or some kind of gas sealed inside. When they first came out in the _(40s-50s?) there was a small bulb inside the sealed lamp. Later there was no bulb; just the filament inside the large lamp. There are three prongs on the back that plug into the typical three prong female plug. OK, who here bought a 123 new, and kept it long enough to have to replace a fog lamp (bulb)? Wilton? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights
WILTON wrote: I bought a new '80 240D; had it 18 years before uninsured motorist on ragged pickup totaled it. Don't remember ever replacing fog bulb in it. Good point. There's rarely a need for fog lights, so how would you ever wear one out? With that in mind, why is it that you never seem to see original yellow fog lamps on used W123s advertised for sale? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 123 fog lights
Mitch, I purchased my 1983 300D from the grandson of the original owner who lived in South Carolina. It has the original headlight/fog light assemblies. I have replaced a couple of hi/lo beam headlights, but the yellow fog lights are still original as they rarely get used. They have the same rear plug as the headlight. As I said in another post, about 12 years ago I purchased a spare set of headlight assemblies to include the side turn lights and the yellow fog lights on eBay. I still have the spare set in a box as I have never needed them. I also have a spare set of front lights for my 1980 300SD. I'm not much on spare belts and fuses, but I like to have spare headlights and taillight assemblies in case some goober backs into me in the parking lot :-) Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] 1882 300 td sls troubles and finally repairs!!
Folks, Today my helper and i spent a couple of hours working on my sls on the 300TD. First we siphoned the fluid out of the reservoir. Then we removed and washed the crud out of it and dried it thoroughly. We jacked the car way up with a floor jack on each side and backed the jacks up with jack stands and removed the spheres. I did the screwdriver test and the screwdriver goes all the way to the back of the unit on the old ones and on the new ones, it stops after about an inch ... gently on the new. I installed the new ones and the high pressure line wouldn't screw in on the driver' side. I removed the sphere and the threads were obviously buggered up. I had a cheap $9 HF tap die set that had a 1/4 inch, i think, pipe tap. I tried it in one of the old units and it fit, so i chased the threads easily in the new one. I reinstalled it and it went in with little difficulty. We started up and tested for leaks and we were golden. So, i drove the car home and it now rides like an er ... mercedes, not like a buckboard wagon. After i parked it, even after about 4 or 5 hours the car REMAINED AT DRIVING HEIGHT and didn't seem to be squatting down as it has been. I didn't do any tests for up and down, but i suspect all is well. So, i conclude that the spheres are responsible for more than just the ride quality. The sls control valve seems to be weeping a very little bit. I wiped it down and i'll watch it. If any of you have a rebuildable sls control valve for a 123, i'll buy it, just so i can build one and then just do a swap. It looks like a bear to remove ... lots of small high pressure steel lines. So that was all good. Then i came home and noticed that AAPL (Apple stock) went down a couple of $$ but then in after hours trading it jumped up $44 or so. I read that they announced some results and more importantly, that they are going to do a $30 billion stock buy back and also split the stock 7/1 or however you write that crazy investor news. thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
