Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On September 4, 2015 at 12:27 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> We don't have glacial till (tilth is a term referring to the tillable
> quality of the soil) around here but rocks and roots are plentiful.

Using the vibrating blade on a Ditch Witch, roots get sawed through slowly, and
rocks smaller
than softballs get shoved out of the way. 5+ feet per minute speeds are
achievable while
planting wire and/or poly irrigation pipe about 18" deep.

I bet a sprinkler installation crew would gladly pull your cable for a dollar or
two a foot. 
Then, if you want to be legal, have an electrician hook up both ends. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I had a final plumbing and gas line inspection yesterday, the inspector 
is a cool guy I like, he sorta looked at it for about 10 seconds and 
signed off, we chatted for another half hour and he recommended I do the 
rest of the work in the house without telling anyone about it.  Turns 
out he also signed off on the final electrical inspection at the last 
visit, I don't recall that and was a little hesitant about it.  He also 
suggested that this permit resets the clock another 6 months, so I 
should wait until next year for the final finals so the tax man doesn't 
screw me this year.


All that and no consultation from Mr. Johnny Walker... it's amazing how 
helpful all the inspectors have been and how demonstrating a bit of 
competence and cooperation works.


--R



On 9/4/15 1:03 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

The whole thing probably cost $300 but folks in
rural NC aren't anal about licensed electricians for small jobs.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Thanks - that helps.  I wonder why there is no simple kit that goes 
from PV
to 110 V without all the interconnecting parapernalia, battery, 
inverters,

etc.


Because unlike a politician's promise, the 'kit' purchaser would
expect results and would be mightily pissed when the simple kit didn't
actually deliver.  The process is _inherently_ not simple, and no
amount of wishing will make it so.

Solar for intermittent lighting and battery charging would be OK.
For any kind of heating, IMHO it's a non-starter.  The size of
the necessary system would be extremely cost-prohibitive.  And
there's ongoing maintenance requirements, and batteries have
a finite life, etc.

Your most satisfactory solution, and the cheapest one that will
meet your stated needs, will be a DIY install of a 12-gauge circuit
drop underground.  I'd recommend a 220V circuit, you'll get both
voltages that way and have a lot more potential power you could
exploit in the future.  (Welder, hot tub, etc.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Thinking about bidding on this

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

You're interested because of the color?  Ice mist?  Thistle?

On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 8:43 PM, clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> fog lights are missing.  Rust does not look terminal, interior seems ok.
>
> clay
>
> On Sep 4, 2015, at 5:37 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
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> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-c-/252074933085?forcerrptr=true=item3ab0d63b5d=252074933085
> >
> > It appears to have some rust but anybody see anything else?
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Re: [MBZ] Poos

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

WHo - me?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> > On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 15:46:18 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel via
> > Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> > Thanks - that helps.  I wonder why there is no simple kit
> > that goes from PV to 110 V without all the
> > interconnecting parapernalia, battery, inverters, etc.

> Craig wrote:
> 
> Because it cannot be done without all the interconnecting
> paraphernalia (correct spelling).

> PV cells put out low voltage direct current.

> Household power is a moderate voltage alternating current.

> ...you need to store the energy somehow. The easiest
> is in a chemical reaction in a rechargeble battery.

All correct - but I understood the question to be about a kit.

The need for al the "interconnecting paraphernalia" doesn't
mean a "simple kit" can't be packaged and sold.  A box with a
NEMA 5-15 socket on the side and a solar controller, battery,
and inverter inside.  Connect photo-voltaic panel and plug in
your load.

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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[clay via Mercedes]

The 5 liter models would have all the bells and whistles.  Park assist, butt 
cooling, adaptive cruise

Still looks like a asian car

clay

On Sep 3, 2015, at 12:39 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

> If my W220 had cooled seats the spousal unit would immediately take control 
> of it.  Not sure if that’s a good thing or not.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 3:33 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> SWMBA had a 09 korean car.   It was very much the same as the 02 w220.  
>> Heated seats, nav, dual climate, leather. no seat memory, no auto close door 
>> or trunk, but it did have ipod hook up and bluetooth.  Same plastic molding 
>> and fuzzy trim.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Thinking about bidding on this

[clay via Mercedes]

fog lights are missing.  Rust does not look terminal, interior seems ok.

clay

On Sep 4, 2015, at 5:37 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-c-/252074933085?forcerrptr=true=item3ab0d63b5d=252074933085
> 
> It appears to have some rust but anybody see anything else?
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[MBZ] Poos

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Your mail is bouncing, it says your mailbox is full.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Practical solar application

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

There are plenty of solar power kits, for example:  
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Grape-Solar-400-Watt-Off-Grid-Solar-Panel-Kit-GS-
400-KIT/203505963
Just Google: "110v solar power kit for shed"

But they aren't cheap if you get a useful capacity and they won't last near
as long as a buried cable.

> 
> > > On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 15:46:18 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> > >  wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks - that helps.  I wonder why there is no simple kit that goes
> > > from PV to 110 V without all the interconnecting parapernalia,
> > > battery, inverters, etc.
> 



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[MBZ] universal

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-UNIVERSAL-5-door-/141764521716?forcerrptr=true=item2101d2eef4=141764521716 



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[MBZ] Thinking about bidding on this

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-c-/252074933085?forcerrptr=true=item3ab0d63b5d=252074933085

It appears to have some rust but anybody see anything else?

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Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

We liked our 86 Sable wagon.  It was still serviceable after 20+ years and
200k+ miles but we decided we needed at least one car that was newer  and
still under warranty the (other cars were 79TD and 82 SD).  We would have
bought another Sable/Taurus but they quit making wagons (SWMBO requirement)
so we got an Outback instead.  Our main complaint with the Sable was the AC
evaporator started leaking and had to be replaced every seven years.  The
Outback has only needed scheduled MX and tires at 50K miles.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Randy Bennell via Mercedes
> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2015 4:38 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Randy Bennell 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SDL?
> 
> The 3rd generation Taurus was a bit different. It was the one with the
oval rear
> window. Ford spent a small fortune on the development and it was intended
> to be much better than the rest of the competitors.
> Our Taurus was an 86, so first generation. It was ok. I really liked it
when it was
> new. As it aged, it developed some issues - rust - etc.
> Struts wore out quickly etc but it was a reasonable car for a low price.
> We bought the Sable to replace it so you can see we were not unhappy with
> the car. We liked the Sable because it did not have the oval look to it
that the
> Taurus had.
> The Sable was troublesome in some ways. Little electrical issues bugged
us. It
> was my wife's car and she complained. I should have tried harder to keep
her
> happy. We got rid of it in less than 5 years and took a bath on the
> depreciation.
> 
> RB
> 
> 
> On 03/09/2015 3:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > Not a think wrong with the Taurus or Sable.  They were good
transportation
> providers for the price.  Very common, nothing distinctive about their
design,
> blended in with everything else on the road of that vintage.
> >
> > That's the W220.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >> On Sep 3, 2015, at 3:58 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey, we had a Mercury Sable (as well as a Ford Taurus). They were not
bad
> cars.
> >> The Sable had electrical gremlins that bugged us but apart from that it
was
> a nice car. It rode well and had pretty decent power for a basic 3.0
pushrod
> engine.
> >>
> >> RB
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] universal

[clay via Mercedes]

Local show and shine this year's peoples choice winner was this model car.  
Owner picked it up in AK as a massive rust bucket and brought it back over 
three years.  His was cream.

clay

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