Re: [MBZ] Nice USB Accessory

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On December 3, 2015 at 8:53 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Why?  If there is nothing plugged into them, there’s no load.  No different
> than if you left your charger plugged into the wall all of the time.  If it’s
> not charging, there’s no load.
> 
> And please don’t anyone start about “vampire loads”.

It's phantom load. 
And transformers draw about half of full load power all the time, you can tell
by the fact that they're still warm when not in use. 
Switching power supplies, not so much. All my cell phones have come with
switching power supplies since about 2006.

I need to get some USB outlets and power them through my Kill-A-Watt, also need
to meter my GFCI outlets.

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Re: [MBZ] Nice USB Accessory

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Phantom, zombie, vampires, one of those things...

These have switching power supplies.  I checked one when I installed it. 
Negligible, if that.

Dan

> On Dec 4, 2015, at 3:25 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On December 3, 2015 at 8:53 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Why?  If there is nothing plugged into them, there’s no load.  No different
>> than if you left your charger plugged into the wall all of the time.  If it’s
>> not charging, there’s no load.
>> 
>> And please don’t anyone start about “vampire loads”.
> 
> It's phantom load. 
> And transformers draw about half of full load power all the time, you can tell
> by the fact that they're still warm when not in use. 
> Switching power supplies, not so much. All my cell phones have come with
> switching power supplies since about 2006.
> 
> I need to get some USB outlets and power them through my Kill-A-Watt, also 
> need
> to meter my GFCI outlets.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Solar companies go bankrupt because the Chinese price their panels below cost 
of production...
-Curt

  From: Curly McLain via Mercedes 
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Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 12:24 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!
   
This relates to a couple of other threads:

We needa be more like Yurp!  Seems Spain, that model of manufacturing 
productivity, has lotsa solar.  There ya go Andrew!  They even put 
solar panels  on top of graves!

http://www.therebel.media/paris_climate_conference_spain_s_abengoa_solar_goes_bankrupt

Pay heed to the connection between utility cost (manipulated by the 
goobers) and manufacturing.



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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Can you produce for your own use?

Or put another way, if you have the power co pull the meter and cut 
the line, can anyone stop you from putting up solar elect. panels? 
Or how long would it be until the gestapo makes you take em down. 
Maybe ALCLU would provide you a lawyer.




(oops, forgot they are not interested in "civil liberties.")

Hawaii has lotsa people who live off grid.  Not much on Oahu, but on 
Hawaii and other islands, off grid is not unusual.  The utilities are 
just not available.  There is a lot of solar there.



What about the lobbyists for the power utilities who get laws passed 
that make it impossible to use solar at your home?


The "Sunshine State" has some of the most restrictive laws regarding 
solar power in the nation. I can go totally off grid, but I can't 
produce and sell any of that power.


Dan who would go solar in a second, Chinee or not



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Re: [MBZ] Nice USB Accessory

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I was just going to go find my Kill-A-Watt and check my charger but I can't 
find the dang Kill-A-Watt... Not where I left it anyway.
At camp our inverter has 2 USB ports that are powered even when the inverter is 
off. Each USB port draws 0.25a when charging. The inverter draws 0.50a when its 
on but not loaded and 0.01a when its off and nothing is using the USB ports, 
all of that is at 12v.
I need to spend some time with my 12v USB charger and see if its more efficient 
than the inverter. I also want to wire up a switch box with 2x switched 12v 
ports, we were forever short of charging capacity with 5 guys each having a 
phone and a tablet plus the 4G hotspot which really wants to be plugged in most 
of the time if its in use. I also want to put a switch on the inverter. 
Apparently when inverters fail its accompanied by a fireball. I disconnected 
the inverter when we left, didn't want to get to camp in the spring to find 
only charcoal.
-Curt

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 Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 3:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice USB Accessory
   


> On December 3, 2015 at 8:53 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Why?  If there is nothing plugged into them, there’s no load.  No different
> than if you left your charger plugged into the wall all of the time.  If it’s
> not charging, there’s no load.
> 
> And please don’t anyone start about “vampire loads”.

It's phantom load. 
And transformers draw about half of full load power all the time, you can tell
by the fact that they're still warm when not in use. 
Switching power supplies, not so much. All my cell phones have come with
switching power supplies since about 2006.

I need to get some USB outlets and power them through my Kill-A-Watt, also need
to meter my GFCI outlets.



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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

What about the lobbyists for the power utilities who get laws passed that make 
it impossible to use solar at your home?

The "Sunshine State" has some of the most restrictive laws regarding solar 
power in the nation. I can go totally off grid, but I can't produce and sell 
any of that power.

Dan who would go solar in a second, Chinee or not

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 4, 2015, at 10:13 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That is probably true for companies that make the panels, but once the panels 
> are installed and operating, the cost of new panels has little to no 
> influence on the operating cost.   This spanish company appears to be an 
> operator.  Nothing is said about it being a producer of panels.
> 
> 
>> Solar companies go bankrupt because the Chinese price their panels below 
>> cost of production...
>> -Curt
>> 
>>  From: Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 12:24 AM
>> Subject: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!
>>  This relates to a couple of other threads:
>> 
>> We needa be more like Yurp!  Seems Spain, that model of manufacturing
>> productivity, has lotsa solar.  There ya go Andrew!  They even put
>> solar panels  on top of graves!
>> 
>> http://www.therebel.media/paris_climate_conference_spain_s_abengoa_solar_goes_bankrupt
>> 
>> Pay heed to the connection between utility cost (manipulated by the
>> goobers) and manufacturing.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Nice USB Accessory

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

And transformers draw about half of full load power all the time,


They are nowhere near that bad!  Now, perhaps cheap small transformer
based wall warts are that bad, but _transformers_, under no load, do
not lose 50%!  Core saturation is loss, if the core is big enough
(and most are) and built right, the losses are low.  (CVT's are
fairly lossy, but you never did see many of those.  We used some
in our products.  The _results_ were impressive, but the efficiency
wasn't.  Nobody much cared, though.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Nice USB Accessory

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Its an interesting idea but I don't have any outlets where one would be handy 
for my phone. Our house is older and the outlets are almost all down low so the 
normal length of USB cables would make them a waste of time.
The charger that came with my Moto X is about the best I've ever had, 2x USB 
ports which will both charge my Nook tablet which hates most generic chargers. 
Its high powered (2a each port) so stuff charges fast. I've got it on a power 
strip by the desk, very handy for my phone and tablet.
-Curt
  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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 Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 8:36 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Nice USB Accessory
   
I have a few of these installed around the house, one behind my bedside table, 
another in the kitchen on the side countertop.  They’re quite convenient, and 
save people from having to run around and find chargers.

http://eshop.macsales.com/Search/SearchPromo.cfm?Ntk=Primary=100361=P_Popularity%7c1=5000=100361=MacSalesCyber2015=READERSPC=Blast15Dec1

The only bad thing I can say is that if you don’t have a deep junction box, 
it’s really tight as these are deep.


Dan
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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

That is probably true for companies that make the panels, but once 
the panels are installed and operating, the cost of new panels has 
little to no influence on the operating cost.   This spanish company 
appears to be an operator.  Nothing is said about it being a producer 
of panels.



Solar companies go bankrupt because the Chinese price their panels 
below cost of production...

-Curt

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Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 12:24 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!
  
This relates to a couple of other threads:


We needa be more like Yurp!  Seems Spain, that model of manufacturing
productivity, has lotsa solar.  There ya go Andrew!  They even put
solar panels  on top of graves!

http://www.therebel.media/paris_climate_conference_spain_s_abengoa_solar_goes_bankrupt

Pay heed to the connection between utility cost (manipulated by the
goobers) and manufacturing.



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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Sorta reminds me of when IRS seized a little place in Nevada, called "The
Mustang Ranch" .. which was making money hand over ... ehhhmmm well fist"
selling whiskey and renting women. So much money, IRS said it wasn't paying
enough taxes...

Government took it over and lost so much money selling whiskey and whores
they had to close the place down.. Yep... imagine that... after over 75 yrs
of being a profitable business.. 1 yr. of government oversight... closed..

I guess we just need more government to make it work.


Sadly, although the social/marx/comun/ists claim "capitalism doesn't 
work", we have not had a free market capitalist economy since 1913 
for sure, and effectively since about 1900.  This is because of 
goobermnt intervention and manipulation.  (Picking "winners and 
losers" based on political donations)


Why was 1913 a pivotal date?

[A jar of Andrew's cat poop pepper jam for the first to come up with 
the right answer!]


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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Sorta reminds me of when IRS seized a little place in Nevada, called "The
Mustang Ranch" .. which was making money hand over ... ehhhmmm well fist"
selling whiskey and renting women. So much money, IRS said it wasn't paying
enough taxes...

Government took it over and lost so much money selling whiskey and whores
they had to close the place down.. Yep... imagine that... after over 75 yrs
of being a profitable business.. 1 yr. of government oversight... closed..

I guess we just need more government to make it work.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> This relates to a couple of other threads:
>
> We needa be more like Yurp!  Seems Spain, that model of manufacturing
> productivity, has lotsa solar.  There ya go Andrew!  They even put solar
> panels  on top of graves!
>
>
> http://www.therebel.media/paris_climate_conference_spain_s_abengoa_solar_goes_bankrupt
>
> Pay heed to the connection between utility cost (manipulated by the
> goobers) and manufacturing.
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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

[MG via Mercedes]

I don't get it. I'm up in Alachua co. and am in the process of 
installing a solar array that will put unused electricity back 
into the grid. At the end of the year if I have put in more then 
I have used they will send me a check. Sounds to me like I will 
be selling electricity to the power company. Possibly local laws 
in Tampa are different? Or have you not checked recently?


Manfred


Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 10:27:22 -0500
From: Dan Penoff 

What about the lobbyists for the power utilities who get laws 
passed that make it impossible to use solar at your home?


The "Sunshine State" has some of the most restrictive laws 
regarding solar power in the nation. I can go totally off grid, 
but I can't produce and sell any of that power.


Dan who would go solar in a second, Chinee or not

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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I believe I am correct in saying the Spanish company totally invested in
the focused reflector/hot salt , heat exchange to steam turbine generator
system of "solar power" 

Huge up front investment required for each installation. Gigantic reliance
on government grants to fund those installations all over the world..

In each case... cost overruns out the wazzz, [government project,
right?] and once completed... VERY poor return per sunlight/electricity.
Goals vs Result = Failure to produce.

I may be painting with an overly broad brush, but I believe it to be the
picture. Spanish government is broke and pulled continuation of grants..
Other worldwide installations/government grants ran out, were not
extended..

Bankruptcy follows because it cost more to make power than power is
produced.



Hmmm,  kinda sounds like onea bumster's buddies.   solyndra?   535 
million in the bud's pocket in exchange fer raising a couple mil fer 
the bumsta's campaign.   pretty good investment, aye?


Almost 27 to 1.  Sign me UP!


Well, yeah, he had to spend a few mil to make it look like a 
legitimate attempt to be in biz.  So, its only 25 to 1.


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[MBZ] 124 Rear LCA

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

On the "new" 300D, the left rear LCA has a loose joint at the 
outside.  This is the bushing in the wheel carrier.Has anyone 
successfully replaced this?  I took the wheel carriers to the local 
alignment shop before, but  don't have that here.   The official tool 
is something like $225, and I don't want to spend that much.


Ja, I know, Dave M, has done it, but he has the official tool, and 
more money to spend on cars than I do.


I'm wondering if it can be done properly with a bolt and sockets.

Spent yesterday replacing the rear subframe bushings.  I'm getting 
pretty good at it.   No special tools, just jackstands and a good 
floor jack.   (also hammer and small chisel, and a screwdriver type 
HF prybar)   The new ones were Boge in Lemforder boxes from 
RMEuropean.  I think I could do it in may 2 hours next time.


This time I coated the new parts with soapy water,  then ran a bead 
of dawn around the leading edge.  That worked much better, or the 
Boge parts were a better fit than the last time.



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Re: [MBZ] OM60X WATER PUMP Was: OM60x parts

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Well, Toronto considers itself the center of the universe but to my 
knowledge the magnetic pole has not relocated to TO.


RB

On 03/12/2015 5:48 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Nope.  A very hapless but friendly dude in Toronto.
On Dec 3, 2015 6:31 PM, "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" 
wrote:


Jeepers! Who are you sending it to? Santa Clause?

RB

On 03/12/2015 4:00 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:


The problem is if you send a watch up to Canada to get fixed, you have to
be aware that due to proximity to the North Magnetic Pole, it might get
magnetized more and not work.

--R

On 12/3/15 3:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:


That's the Canadian who IIRC screwed up my Wittnauer.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Speaking of watch lovers, just had Richarde's buddy, Shane Ede, put the

fix to my Mom's old Bucherer. He did a heck of a job and was very
reasonable.

Dan

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On Dec 3, 2015, at 7:30 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Amongst watch lovers, that's called Germasian (or is that GermAsian?).

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 124 Rear LCA

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I did four of those outer joints with the Sir Tools junk tool, I think that
was about $100 or less.  Be very careful if you get that tool, their steel
is soft and the slightest misalignment will destroy the tool (the brake
heat shield needs to be bent out of the way and then bent back).  I have
read of people bodging up a makeshift tool with sockets and washers and
all-thread, I think it was on the Peach Parts forum.

I used caster oil as a lubricant for the rubber on steel movement (front
LCA inner bushings), that seemed to work well.  I believe Curt recommended
that?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> On the "new" 300D, the left rear LCA has a loose joint at the outside.
> This is the bushing in the wheel carrier.Has anyone successfully
> replaced this?  I took the wheel carriers to the local alignment shop
> before, but  don't have that here.   The official tool is something like
> $225, and I don't want to spend that much.
>
> Ja, I know, Dave M, has done it, but he has the official tool, and more
> money to spend on cars than I do.
>
> I'm wondering if it can be done properly with a bolt and sockets.
>
> Spent yesterday replacing the rear subframe bushings.  I'm getting pretty
> good at it.   No special tools, just jackstands and a good floor jack.
>  (also hammer and small chisel, and a screwdriver type HF prybar)   The new
> ones were Boge in Lemforder boxes from RMEuropean.  I think I could do it
> in may 2 hours next time.
>
> This time I coated the new parts with soapy water,  then ran a bead of
> dawn around the leading edge.  That worked much better, or the Boge parts
> were a better fit than the last time.
>
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[MBZ] Ball joints & struts

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Indie replaced lower ball joints and front shocks/struts on my '87 300D (145 
kmi) yesterday.  Wow!  What a difference!  Been creaking, squeaking and  
rattling for 2 or 3 months.  Sure feels better - nice and quiet and smooth now.

Wilton 
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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

1913:  Sixteenth Amendment (income tax).

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Ding!  Ding!  Ding!  Ding!   Give that man a jar of Andrew's 
(in)famous cat poop jelly!






1913:  Sixteenth Amendment (income tax).

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yes, you can produce for your own consumption. The utilities just don't allow 
or heavily restrict point-of-use. About the only way it's been gotten around is 
on a scale of a complete housing development (and quite successfully at that.)

Dan

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> On Dec 4, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Can you produce for your own use?
> 
> Or put another way, if you have the power co pull the meter and cut the line, 
> can anyone stop you from putting up solar elect. panels? Or how long would it 
> be until the gestapo makes you take em down. Maybe ALCLU would provide you a 
> lawyer.
> 
> 
> 
> (oops, forgot they are not interested in "civil liberties.")
> 
> Hawaii has lotsa people who live off grid.  Not much on Oahu, but on Hawaii 
> and other islands, off grid is not unusual.  The utilities are just not 
> available.  There is a lot of solar there.
> 
> 
>> What about the lobbyists for the power utilities who get laws passed that 
>> make it impossible to use solar at your home?
>> 
>> The "Sunshine State" has some of the most restrictive laws regarding solar 
>> power in the nation. I can go totally off grid, but I can't produce and sell 
>> any of that power.
>> 
>> Dan who would go solar in a second, Chinee or not
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

>From an industrial and solar perspective, Germany is more comparable to the 
>U.S. than Spain, and their installed solar base is significant and expanding. 
>It will be interesting to see how their plans to continue going heavily 
>solar/wind work out; assuming that another Schicklgruber* doesn't arise from 
>their growing Nazi-like parties.
Gerry

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G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:

> Sorta reminds me of when IRS seized a little place in Nevada, called "The
> Mustang Ranch" .. which was making money hand over ... ehhhmmm well fist"
> selling whiskey and renting women. So much money, IRS said it wasn't paying
> enough taxes...
> 
> Government took it over and lost so much money selling whiskey and whores
> they had to close the place down.. Yep... imagine that... after over 75 yrs
> of being a profitable business.. 1 yr. of government oversight... closed..
> 
> I guess we just need more government to make it work.
> 
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > This relates to a couple of other threads:
> >
> > We needa be more like Yurp!  Seems Spain, that model of manufacturing
> > productivity, has lotsa solar.  There ya go Andrew!  They even put solar
> > panels  on top of graves!
> >
> >
> > http://www.therebel.media/paris_climate_conference_spain_s_abengoa_solar_goes_bankrupt
> >
> > Pay heed to the connection between utility cost (manipulated by the
> > goobers) and manufacturing.
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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Germany is probably a lot more comparable to the US than Spain in most ways 
although I suppose we're always chasing Spain on political corruption...
-Curt
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From an industrial and solar perspective, Germany is more comparable to the 
U.S. than Spain, and their installed solar base is significant and expanding. 
It will be interesting to see how their plans to continue going heavily 
solar/wind work out; assuming that another Schicklgruber* doesn't arise from 
their growing Nazi-like parties.
Gerry

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/05/06/opinion/l-hitler-never-really-was-schicklgruber-016390.html
~

G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:

> Sorta reminds me of when IRS seized a little place in Nevada, called "The
> Mustang Ranch" .. which was making money hand over ... ehhhmmm well fist"
> selling whiskey and renting women. So much money, IRS said it wasn't paying
> enough taxes...
> 
> Government took it over and lost so much money selling whiskey and whores
> they had to close the place down.. Yep... imagine that... after over 75 yrs
> of being a profitable business.. 1 yr. of government oversight... closed..
> 
> I guess we just need more government to make it work.
> 
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > This relates to a couple of other threads:
> >
> > We needa be more like Yurp!  Seems Spain, that model of manufacturing
> > productivity, has lotsa solar.  There ya go Andrew!  They even put solar
> > panels  on top of graves!
> >
> >
> > http://www.therebel.media/paris_climate_conference_spain_s_abengoa_solar_goes_bankrupt
> >
> > Pay heed to the connection between utility cost (manipulated by the
> > goobers) and manufacturing.
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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I believe I am correct in saying the Spanish company totally invested in
the focused reflector/hot salt , heat exchange to steam turbine generator
system of "solar power" 

Huge up front investment required for each installation. Gigantic reliance
on government grants to fund those installations all over the world..

In each case... cost overruns out the wazzz, [government project,
right?] and once completed... VERY poor return per sunlight/electricity.
Goals vs Result = Failure to produce.

I may be painting with an overly broad brush, but I believe it to be the
picture. Spanish government is broke and pulled continuation of grants..
Other worldwide installations/government grants ran out, were not
extended..

Bankruptcy follows because it cost more to make power than power is
produced.

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Germany is probably a lot more comparable to the US than Spain in most
> ways although I suppose we're always chasing Spain on political
> corruption...
> -Curt
>   From: archer75--- via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: "arche...@embarqmail.com" 
>  Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 11:34 AM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!
>
> From an industrial and solar perspective, Germany is more comparable to
> the U.S. than Spain, and their installed solar base is significant and
> expanding. It will be interesting to see how their plans to continue going
> heavily solar/wind work out; assuming that another Schicklgruber* doesn't
> arise from their growing Nazi-like parties.
> Gerry
>
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/1990/05/06/opinion/l-hitler-never-really-was-schicklgruber-016390.html
> ~
>
> G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:
>
> > Sorta reminds me of when IRS seized a little place in Nevada, called "The
> > Mustang Ranch" .. which was making money hand over ... ehhhmmm well fist"
> > selling whiskey and renting women. So much money, IRS said it wasn't
> paying
> > enough taxes...
> >
> > Government took it over and lost so much money selling whiskey and whores
> > they had to close the place down.. Yep... imagine that... after over 75
> yrs
> > of being a profitable business.. 1 yr. of government oversight...
> closed..
> >
> > I guess we just need more government to make it work.
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > This relates to a couple of other threads:
> > >
> > > We needa be more like Yurp!  Seems Spain, that model of manufacturing
> > > productivity, has lotsa solar.  There ya go Andrew!  They even put
> solar
> > > panels  on top of graves!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> http://www.therebel.media/paris_climate_conference_spain_s_abengoa_solar_goes_bankrupt
> > >
> > > Pay heed to the connection between utility cost (manipulated by the
> > > goobers) and manufacturing.
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Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

The latest information indicates that after a stroll with their child 
Tues evening, the loving couple came home and put on a youtube video of 
Algore's global warming movie.  After seeing it they were spontaneously 
moved to this attack.  Just a loving couple at home for an evening 
agitated by a youtube movie...


--R

On 12/4/15 3:15 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

There is a difference between crazy individuals (like the Batman film
shooter) and the group craziness of fundamental islam. That's why
intelligence analysts looked at this case as an act of terrorism initially
when they saw that it was more than a single attacker.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C.
Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 11:43 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
Subject: Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

Exactly. How do you separate the crazy people from the non crazy people?

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 4, 2015, at 1:38 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes

 wrote:

Farook, the San Bernardino shooter, was born in Chicago, Illinois and

raised in California. There was no indication that he was a radical Muslim.

Thousands of muslims like Farook have grown up in America, have no

connection to radical muslim groups, and lead normal American lives.

How do you identify those who are likely to commit atrocities?
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] 124 Rear LCA

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Its interesting, some of their tools are so good and strong. I've terribly 
abused their wrenches and sockets and never had a failure.
We're finally getting one within 1/2 hour drive of here. I'm going to have to 
limit myself. As it is now theres one in Worcester and Milton, NH neither of 
which is convenient to get to nor do I often have cause to go there so I save 
up and when I've got a few things on my list I head over...
-Curt
  From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
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 Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 3:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Rear LCA
   
Thus the name Hazard Fraught...

-
Max
Charleston SC



On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Curly.
> Cheap hydraulic press, 12 ton. When I first used it on an AMC rear axle
> pinion, about 10 years ago, the supplied assembly bolts failed by blowing
> past my ear, going the width of the garden and hitting my neighbors garage
> with a loud bang!
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Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Yeahbut, it seems like coming to the US as a refugee is an awful lot of work. 
You could come here on a student or other travel visa way easier with much less 
inspection. Particularly if you transit through a "friendly" country like Saudi 
where you obtain a fake ID. Why would terrorists pursue the most difficult 
possible method of entry?
-Curt
  From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
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Cc: Greg Fiorentino 
 Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino
   
Andrew:

There is no realistic way to keep weapons away from those intent on harming
us. Require registration of kitchen knives, hammers, pressure cookers, cell
phones, diesel fuel and fertilizer?

It is the human hand that is the clear and present danger. It is the
deranged mind in the case of the CO theater shooter. It is the tenets of
fundamental islam that is the fertile ground for violent jihad.

How to find the individuals who can become a danger within a significant
population of muslims? That's not an easy question to answer. Perhaps as we
encourage more to settle in the US we will have more opportunities for
experimentation.

BTW, 2 years of vetting by USDOS and USCIS does not constitute a thorough
check. Ask me how I know this.

Greg

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Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 12:25 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

Instead of making light of this tragedy with misguided "humor", you should
be wondering how they acquired their stash of weaponry, ammo and pipe bomb
making materials with such apparent ease.

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The latest information indicates that after a stroll with their child Tues
> evening, the loving couple came home and put on a youtube video of
Algore's
> global warming movie.  After seeing it they were spontaneously moved to
> this attack.  Just a loving couple at home for an evening agitated by a
> youtube movie...
>
> --R
>
>
> On 12/4/15 3:15 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> There is a difference between crazy individuals (like the Batman film
>> shooter) and the group craziness of fundamental islam. That's why
>> intelligence analysts looked at this case as an act of terrorism
initially
>> when they saw that it was more than a single attacker.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb
>> C.
>> Striplin via Mercedes
>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 11:43 AM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino
>>
>> Exactly. How do you separate the crazy people from the non crazy people?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 4, 2015, at 1:38 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes
>>>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Farook, the San Bernardino shooter, was born in Chicago, Illinois and
>>>
>> raised in California. There was no indication that he was a radical
>> Muslim.
>>
>>> Thousands of muslims like Farook have grown up in America, have no
>>>
>> connection to radical muslim groups, and lead normal American lives.
>>
>>> How do you identify those who are likely to commit atrocities?
>>> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Exactly. How do you separate the crazy people from the non crazy people?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 4, 2015, at 1:38 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Farook, the San Bernardino shooter, was born in Chicago, Illinois and raised 
> in California. There was no indication that he was a radical Muslim.
> Thousands of muslims like Farook have grown up in America, have no connection 
> to radical muslim groups, and lead normal American lives.
> How do you identify those who are likely to commit atrocities?
> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] 124 Rear LCA

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Curly.
Cheap hydraulic press, 12 ton. When I first used it on an AMC rear axle pinion, 
about 10 years ago, the supplied assembly bolts failed by blowing past my ear, 
going the width of the garden and hitting my neighbors garage with a loud bang! 
Replaced the bolts with high quality AMERICAN bolts and no trouble since.
Basically an hydraulic jack in a frame, very useful, if fraught with potential 
dangers.
Be safe out there.
Fred
p.s. If the bolt had hit me in the eye, I'd probably be dead. Or perhaps 
smarter.


From: Mercedes  on behalf of Curly McLain via 
Mercedes 
Sent: 04 December 2015 18:56
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Curly McLain
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Rear LCA

The HF ball joint press?   What did you use for the anvil and cup?
Unfortunately, my HF press is far away.

I'll probably end up taking the wheel carrier out and taking it
someplace to get the new joint pressed in.
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Re: [MBZ] 124 Rear LCA

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Curly.
Cheap hydraulic press, 12 ton. When I first used it on an AMC rear axle pinion, 
about 10 years ago, the supplied assembly bolts failed by blowing past my ear, 
going the width of the garden and hitting my neighbors garage with a loud bang! 
Replaced the bolts with high quality AMERICAN bolts and no trouble since.
Basically an hydraulic jack in a frame, very useful, if fraught with potential 
dangers.
Be safe out there.
Fred
p.s. If the bolt had hit me in the eye, I'd probably be dead. Or perhaps 
smarter.


From: Mercedes  on behalf of Curly McLain via 
Mercedes 
Sent: 04 December 2015 18:56
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Curly McLain
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 Rear LCA

The HF ball joint press?   What did you use for the anvil and cup?
Unfortunately, my HF press is far away.

I'll probably end up taking the wheel carrier out and taking it
someplace to get the new joint pressed in.
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Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Exactly!
You all look normal to me.
Fred.


From: Mercedes  on behalf of Kaleb C. Striplin 
via Mercedes 
Sent: 04 December 2015 19:43
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
Subject: Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

Exactly. How do you separate the crazy people from the non crazy people?


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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Ball joints & struts

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That would easily be over $1K at any dealer. ATTABOY!

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:56 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
wrote:

>
> - Original Message -
> From: WILTON
> To: Andrew Strasfogel
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 1:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ball joints & struts
>
>
> Ball joints & struts $280 Buymbparts; labor: R joints & struts $190;
> alignment $55.
>
> Wilton
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Andrew Strasfogel
>   To: Mercedes Discussion List
>   Cc: WILTON
>   Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 1:14 PM
>   Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ball joints & struts
>
>
>   Not to pry, but what was the cost of the 1) labor and 2) parts for this
> job?
>
>   I lied - I DID pry.  Oh well, :(
>
>
>   On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 11:49 AM, WILTON via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> Indie replaced lower ball joints and front shocks/struts on my '87
> 300D (145 kmi) yesterday.  Wow!  What a difference!  Been creaking,
> squeaking and  rattling for 2 or 3 months.  Sure feels better - nice and
> quiet and smooth now.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Loosing my mynd

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

You are also on the [not so] exclusive Do Not Fly list.

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 2:05 PM, clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> A few weeks ago I put in an order for floor mats for Frosch with the nice
> folks at Cocomats.com.  A message was sent to me electronically about how
> to go about printing up a pattern with which to compare and contrast what
> was currently residing under my heel in the SL.  I found the going to FedEx
> store to print it out to be extra effort, so I elected to have patterns
> sent to me.  All good, so far.
>
> I pick up the mail Wednesday and behold, the patterns were in my hands.  A
> very complete instruction set outlined how to go about confirming or
> adjusting the fitment with a checklist and bold text where needed for those
> of us less in tune with reality.  Patterns looked just fine, but I pulled
> the carpet out to see if there were gross discrepancies.   There were
> niggling oddities that resolved themselves if you twisted a bit this manner
> and another, such that it was really pretty close.  Distractions had
> outlined that the mats would not be an EXACT fit to factory, but you should
> inspect to make sure it was within parameters.  To my jaundiced eye, they
> looked serviceable as sent.  I could have wasted a few hours messing about
> with a sharpie or end up making paper snowflakes of the patterns in an
> attempt to make it just right.  I declined that option, as I did not want
> to return patterns all messed up and unusable.  The things are damn close
> and I was sure I could not improve on them in any material way.
>
> SO,
>
> I plop myself down at the keyboard to communicate my pleasure with the
> whole process and set the ball rolling on my mat project.  Look in my mail
> program. No indication of any electronic communication with these folks.
> Neither from me or by them.  Very odd.  Check the iPad.  Nope.  Look at
> Gmail and hotmail.  Not that I use those accounts, but ... just in case.
>
> These folks have been deleted from my history by the damn NSA!  I know I
> communicated with a nice young gal in SC about the mats.  I just am not
> able to find the proof.  I am begining to suspect I am either lozing my
> mynd, or I have been using Hillary's server.
>
>
> clay
>
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>
>
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>
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Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I have my doubts about "Curly".

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Exactly!
> You all look normal to me.
> Fred.
>
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Kaleb C.
> Striplin via Mercedes 
> Sent: 04 December 2015 19:43
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino
>
> Exactly. How do you separate the crazy people from the non crazy people?
>
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Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

There is a difference between crazy individuals (like the Batman film
shooter) and the group craziness of fundamental islam. That's why
intelligence analysts looked at this case as an act of terrorism initially
when they saw that it was more than a single attacker.

Greg

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Striplin via Mercedes
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Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
Subject: Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

Exactly. How do you separate the crazy people from the non crazy people?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 4, 2015, at 1:38 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes
 wrote:
> 
> Farook, the San Bernardino shooter, was born in Chicago, Illinois and
raised in California. There was no indication that he was a radical Muslim.
> Thousands of muslims like Farook have grown up in America, have no
connection to radical muslim groups, and lead normal American lives.
> How do you identify those who are likely to commit atrocities?
> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

How?
Because Farook was a natural born citizen with a good education, able to 
pass

any background check you'd care to throw at your fellow citizens, including
one he passed to get his job, stricter than any I've prior restraint to
the Second Amendment I've seen proposed.


I hate when I reword something for clarity and turn it into non-English in
the process.


Because Farook was a natural born citizen with a good education and no criminal 
record. He was able to pass any feasible background check. The one he passed to

get his job was more involved than the one I passed to get my Concealed Pistol
License.



Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 124 Rear LCA

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Curly.
Cheap hydraulic press, 12 ton. When I first used it on an AMC rear 
axle pinion, about 10 years ago, the supplied assembly bolts failed 
by blowing past my ear, going the width of the garden and hitting my 
neighbors garage with a loud bang! Replaced the bolts with high 
quality AMERICAN bolts and no trouble since.
Basically an hydraulic jack in a frame, very useful, if fraught with 
potential dangers.

Be safe out there.
Fred
p.s. If the bolt had hit me in the eye, I'd probably be dead. Or 
perhaps smarter.


Ah!  now grasshopper understands!

I won't be buying a hydraulic press.

Thank you kindly!

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Re: [MBZ] 124 Rear LCA

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Thus the name Hazard Fraught...

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Curly.
> Cheap hydraulic press, 12 ton. When I first used it on an AMC rear axle
> pinion, about 10 years ago, the supplied assembly bolts failed by blowing
> past my ear, going the width of the garden and hitting my neighbors garage
> with a loud bang!
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Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Instead of making light of this tragedy with misguided "humor", you should
be wondering how they acquired their stash of weaponry, ammo and pipe bomb
making materials with such apparent ease.

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The latest information indicates that after a stroll with their child Tues
> evening, the loving couple came home and put on a youtube video of Algore's
> global warming movie.  After seeing it they were spontaneously moved to
> this attack.  Just a loving couple at home for an evening agitated by a
> youtube movie...
>
> --R
>
>
> On 12/4/15 3:15 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> There is a difference between crazy individuals (like the Batman film
>> shooter) and the group craziness of fundamental islam. That's why
>> intelligence analysts looked at this case as an act of terrorism initially
>> when they saw that it was more than a single attacker.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb
>> C.
>> Striplin via Mercedes
>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 11:43 AM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino
>>
>> Exactly. How do you separate the crazy people from the non crazy people?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 4, 2015, at 1:38 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes
>>>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Farook, the San Bernardino shooter, was born in Chicago, Illinois and
>>>
>> raised in California. There was no indication that he was a radical
>> Muslim.
>>
>>> Thousands of muslims like Farook have grown up in America, have no
>>>
>> connection to radical muslim groups, and lead normal American lives.
>>
>>> How do you identify those who are likely to commit atrocities?
>>> Gerry
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Nice USB Accessory

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

USB is 5V

--R

On 12/4/15 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Because a USB port is 3v, something is lost in the conversion.
-Curt

   From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
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  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice USB Accessory

Why isn't that true for ANY 110V AC outlet?


On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:


On Thu, 03 Dec 2015 20:53:56 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:


No different than if you left your charger plugged into the wall all of
the time.

Yes.



If it’s not charging, there’s no load.

No, there is a load on the AC keeping it ready for use.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

[WILTON via Mercedes]

This one found wife online in Saudi Arabia and traveled there to meet and 
"collect" her, didn't he?


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "archer75--- via Mercedes" 

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Cc: 
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 2:38 PM
Subject: [MBZ] San Bernardino


Farook, the San Bernardino shooter, was born in Chicago, Illinois and 
raised in California. There was no indication that he was a radical 
Muslim.
Thousands of muslims like Farook have grown up in America, have no 
connection to radical muslim groups, and lead normal American lives.

How do you identify those who are likely to commit atrocities?
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] Loosing my mynd

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Check the telex basket...

-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 2:05 PM, clay via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > A few weeks ago I put in an order for floor mats for Frosch with the nice
> > folks at Cocomats.com.  A message was sent to me electronically about how
> > to go about printing up a pattern with which to compare and contrast what
> > was currently residing under my heel in the SL.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: 34mm Negative Scanner - Mould on the originals

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I agree

--R

On 12/4/15 3:08 PM, Euan Kennedy via Mercedes wrote:


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Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

 Farook, the San Bernardino shooter, was born in Chicago, Illinois and raised 
in California. There was no indication that he was a radical Muslim.
Thousands of muslims like Farook have grown up in America, have no connection 
to radical muslim groups, and lead normal American lives.
How do you identify those who are likely to commit atrocities?


Unless you like the idea of punishing the many to prevent the acts of a few, you 
don't, really.


Or, if you really believe you must do something, you could leave the native 
citizens alone and take a closer look at radicalized immigrants, like the Boston 
bombers and Farook's baby-mama.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Jaime's got some work to do

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Thats two years old.  An eternity these days.

Have a look at this:
http://www.welt.de/motor/news/article149155259/Mercedes-E-Klasse-W213.html

(if you can read German)

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
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> Fascinating systems (autonomous emergency braking) but MB is sadly failing
> where veedub and Volvo succeeded.
>
> https://youtu.be/PzHM6PVTjXo
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Slide scanning - Mould on the originals Take 2

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

The one thing you cannot do is rinse them, as the mould has negated  
the hardening of the emulsion, and it will wash off where the mold was  
present.


Alcohol will remove the varnish on Kodachromes, along with the mould,  
but you really need to re-varnish them if possible, it's what keeps  
them from fading.


Serious mould repair requires removing the film from the mount and  
soaking it in formaldehyde solution to re-harden the emulsion and kill  
the fungus, then very careful washing to remove the dead fungus.  I  
don't recommend this for anything but critical photographs, run of the  
mill ones I'd use the dust and scratch removal feature if you have it,  
or manually fix them in Photoshop.


I have a ton to work through, luckily the Kodachromes are pretty good  
about not growing crud.  Agfachromes are the worst (also worst about  
fading) and Ektachromes are in the middle.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Nice USB Accessory

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Heat.  The magnetic field rising and falling across the transformer coils 
creates heat.  Mag field is there in regular outlet, too, but it's not as 
strong and as concentrated as in transformer coils - lotta conductors 
"stacked" together.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 

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Cc: "Curt Raymond" 
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice USB Accessory



Because a USB port is 3v, something is lost in the conversion.
-Curt

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Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice USB Accessory

Why isn't that true for ANY 110V AC outlet?

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:


On Thu, 03 Dec 2015 20:53:56 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> No different than if you left your charger plugged into the wall all of
> the time.

Yes.


> If it’s not charging, there’s no load.

No, there is a load on the AC keeping it ready for use.


Craig

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[MBZ] OT: Slide scanning - Mould on the originals Take 2

[Euan Kennedy via Mercedes]

OK, let's try this a third time. AVAST has been messing with my e-mails.

I located a long neglected NIKON LS-2000 a while ago but, like you, was 
confounded by the SCSI interface. After a bit of rummaging, I found to 
my astonishment that I had acquired somewhere along the line in my 
legacy Mac squirreling an exceedingly rare (and now /very /costly) SCSI 
converter plug that overcame the need for a SCSI board on my old 
PowerMac. The old Macs have gone to the big recycling boneyard but I 
still have that converter.


Since then however I've bought a Nikon CoolScan 4000ED which is now 
waiting for me to upgrade from the PC darkside to decent recent iMac.


My early scanning experiments with the LS-2000 revealed a problem I 
haven't found a fix for yet. A few of my thousands of colour slides are 
blighted with mould on the emulsions. I've consulted Dr Google and it 
seems that the best fix may be to freeze the slides to kill the mould. 
Theoretically, freezing should make it easy to simply brush the dead 
mould off, without taking emulsion with it.


I'd really appreciate some advice on this. Have you found a satisfactory 
solution to the problem of mouldy slides and negatives?



Euan
Christchurch NZ

1985 300TD 5-speed manual
221K miles


On 28/11/2015 1:49 a.m., Peter Frederick wrote:
Vuescan works well for Eastman (or other pre-programmed) films, but if 
there isn't a profile it can take quite a while to get good color.  
Needless to say, I have all sorts of strange films that are not on the 
list.


The thing I like the best is the ability to control contrast, it's 
fairly easy to restore faded slides and negatives, and rescue 
under-development.


Peter





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Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Another facet of this I find interesting and alarming, Farook had past
contact with suspicious individuals that the FBI was monitoring, but his
contact appeared to stop over a year ago.  I'm wondering if that contact
didn't really stop but instead "went dark" because he started communicating
via encrypted means which neither NSA or the FBI could penetrate or
monitor.  ISIS/ISIL/Daesh seems very adept at using technology to avoid
detection and monitoring, thank you Edward Snowden.

-
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Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Andrew:

There is no realistic way to keep weapons away from those intent on harming
us. Require registration of kitchen knives, hammers, pressure cookers, cell
phones, diesel fuel and fertilizer?

It is the human hand that is the clear and present danger. It is the
deranged mind in the case of the CO theater shooter. It is the tenets of
fundamental islam that is the fertile ground for violent jihad.

How to find the individuals who can become a danger within a significant
population of muslims? That's not an easy question to answer. Perhaps as we
encourage more to settle in the US we will have more opportunities for
experimentation.

BTW, 2 years of vetting by USDOS and USCIS does not constitute a thorough
check. Ask me how I know this.

Greg

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Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

Instead of making light of this tragedy with misguided "humor", you should
be wondering how they acquired their stash of weaponry, ammo and pipe bomb
making materials with such apparent ease.

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The latest information indicates that after a stroll with their child Tues
> evening, the loving couple came home and put on a youtube video of
Algore's
> global warming movie.  After seeing it they were spontaneously moved to
> this attack.  Just a loving couple at home for an evening agitated by a
> youtube movie...
>
> --R
>
>
> On 12/4/15 3:15 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> There is a difference between crazy individuals (like the Batman film
>> shooter) and the group craziness of fundamental islam. That's why
>> intelligence analysts looked at this case as an act of terrorism
initially
>> when they saw that it was more than a single attacker.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb
>> C.
>> Striplin via Mercedes
>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 11:43 AM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino
>>
>> Exactly. How do you separate the crazy people from the non crazy people?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 4, 2015, at 1:38 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes
>>>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Farook, the San Bernardino shooter, was born in Chicago, Illinois and
>>>
>> raised in California. There was no indication that he was a radical
>> Muslim.
>>
>>> Thousands of muslims like Farook have grown up in America, have no
>>>
>> connection to radical muslim groups, and lead normal American lives.
>>
>>> How do you identify those who are likely to commit atrocities?
>>> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

It's not humor, it is basically the same scenario that got our Libyan 
ambassador and 3 others killed in Benghazi, right?   Some random guys 
out for a stroll who had seen a youtube video, and it just randomly set 
them off at a random place that just happened to be a secret arms stash 
where the ambassador was, to use the RPGs and "assault weapons" they 
just happened to be carrying on their evening stroll.  That's entirely 
believable, right?  Our president and SoS and UN ambassador told us it 
was so!


We know that global warming climate change disruption is the most 
significant existential problem facing us, so it is quite reasonable to 
think that a youtube video about global warming climate change 
disruption set off these people, and we know that a messianic Jew had 
made fun of the guy's beard a coupla weeks before.  Tolerance, COEXIST, 
and diversity celebrations kinda failed there.  You put that together 
and why wouldn't it be understandable, as John Kerry said about the 
Paris workplace gun violence, for these folks to go off like that and 
commit this act of workplace violence?  I mean, kids used to make fun of 
my hairstyle too, it would be understandable if I went off, right?


It seems like someone else acquired the weapons for them, legally, but 
it might be too early to tell.   I can go out right now (or do it on my 
computer) and buy stuff to make pipe bombs, random commonly-available 
chemicals like diesel fuel and fertilizer or other stuff, or propane or 
butane or gasoline.  Should we all be licensed and investigated to buy 
various fuels?  Should all farmers pass background checks to get 
fertilizer?  The most recent Paris guys (or their buddies) cooked up 
their own plastique using commonly-available chemicals.  I could build 
various delivery devices (like the radio-controlled car they had a bomb 
on) to do it from afar too, better ban all RC devices or institute 
stringent background checks!  Or OMG I see 8000gal fuel tankers driving 
on our roads, there was one parked at Costco this afternoon!  Those 
things would make a good boom!  Or big LP tankers bring 2000gal right to 
my house!  OMG!  What should I do?


And a neighbor saw several other men coming and going from the garage, 
which he thought a bit suspicious but did not want to be racist and jump 
to any conclusions about whether they might be up to no good.


--R

On 12/4/15 3:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
Instead of making light of this tragedy with misguided "humor", you 
should be wondering how they acquired their stash of weaponry, ammo 
and pipe bomb making materials with such apparent ease.


On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
> wrote:


The latest information indicates that after a stroll with their
child Tues evening, the loving couple came home and put on a
youtube video of Algore's global warming movie.  After seeing it
they were spontaneously moved to this attack. Just a loving couple
at home for an evening agitated by a youtube movie...

--R


On 12/4/15 3:15 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

There is a difference between crazy individuals (like the
Batman film
shooter) and the group craziness of fundamental islam. That's why
intelligence analysts looked at this case as an act of
terrorism initially
when they saw that it was more than a single attacker.

Greg

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Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 11:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

Exactly. How do you separate the crazy people from the non
crazy people?

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 4, 2015, at 1:38 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes

> wrote:

Farook, the San Bernardino shooter, was born in Chicago,
Illinois and

raised in California. There was no indication that he was a
radical Muslim.

Thousands of muslims like Farook have grown up in America,
have no

connection to radical muslim groups, and lead normal American
lives.

How do you identify those who are likely to commit atrocities?
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] Ball joints & struts

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Sure does make a difference!  Need to replace the rear fuel pump in  
the wagon and the front wheel bearings and I'll be in the same  
position -- both front ball joints were loose and clanking and both  
front springs were broken off at the bottom.


I found lots of sand and small sea shells in the covers on the rear  
suspension, I think the previous owners drove it on the beach on  
vacations.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

A real paradox - Barcelona is one of the coolest, most vibrant cities on
the planet.

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> We were in Spain a few years back and driving around here and there, and
> at one point on the autobahn or whatever they call it, I see a sign for
> Something Nuclearismo or some such, and sure enough a coupla km down the
> road we pass a nuke just kinda sitting out in the middle of nothing.  It
> had fences and all, but not much else anywhere around.  They also had solar
> panels stuck all over the place and wind machines, most of which were not
> spinning.  At some place we passed a construction project where they were
> building another high-speed train line, not sure where it was coming from
> or going to, or how the sparsity of population centers out that way would
> provide any reasonable revenues (not that that was probably a goal).
>
> My daughter did a semester there, and said the whole place was kinda sad,
> really high unemployment among the younger people, no particular view of
> the future.
>
> --R
>
> On 12/4/15 11:57 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I believe I am correct in saying the Spanish company totally invested in
>> the focused reflector/hot salt , heat exchange to steam turbine generator
>> system of "solar power" 
>>
>> Huge up front investment required for each installation. Gigantic reliance
>> on government grants to fund those installations all over the world..
>>
>> In each case... cost overruns out the wazzz, [government project,
>> right?] and once completed... VERY poor return per sunlight/electricity.
>> Goals vs Result = Failure to produce.
>>
>> I may be painting with an overly broad brush, but I believe it to be the
>> picture. Spanish government is broke and pulled continuation of grants..
>> Other worldwide installations/government grants ran out, were not
>> extended..
>>
>> Bankruptcy follows because it cost more to make power than power is
>> produced.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Germany is probably a lot more comparable to the US than Spain in most
>>> ways although I suppose we're always chasing Spain on political
>>> corruption...
>>> -Curt
>>>From: archer75--- via Mercedes 
>>>   To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>> Cc: "arche...@embarqmail.com" 
>>>   Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 11:34 AM
>>>   Subject: Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!
>>>
>>>  From an industrial and solar perspective, Germany is more comparable to
>>> the U.S. than Spain, and their installed solar base is significant and
>>> expanding. It will be interesting to see how their plans to continue
>>> going
>>> heavily solar/wind work out; assuming that another Schicklgruber* doesn't
>>> arise from their growing Nazi-like parties.
>>> Gerry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/1990/05/06/opinion/l-hitler-never-really-was-schicklgruber-016390.html
>>> ~
>>>
>>> G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorta reminds me of when IRS seized a little place in Nevada, called "The
 Mustang Ranch" .. which was making money hand over ... ehhhmmm well
 fist"
 selling whiskey and renting women. So much money, IRS said it wasn't

>>> paying
>>>
 enough taxes...

 Government took it over and lost so much money selling whiskey and
 whores
 they had to close the place down.. Yep... imagine that... after over 75

>>> yrs
>>>
 of being a profitable business.. 1 yr. of government oversight...

>>> closed..
>>>
 I guess we just need more government to make it work.

 On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

 This relates to a couple of other threads:
>
> We needa be more like Yurp!  Seems Spain, that model of manufacturing
> productivity, has lotsa solar.  There ya go Andrew!  They even put
>
 solar
>>>
 panels  on top of graves!
>
>
>
>
>>> http://www.therebel.media/paris_climate_conference_spain_s_abengoa_solar_goes_bankrupt
>>>
 Pay heed to the connection between utility cost (manipulated by the
> goobers) and manufacturing.
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Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Instead of making light of this tragedy with misguided "humor", you should
be wondering how they acquired their stash of weaponry, ammo and pipe bomb
making materials with such apparent ease.


How?
Because Farook was a natural born citizen with a good education, able to pass
any background check you'd care to throw at your fellow citizens, including
one he passed to get his job, stricter than any I've prior restraint to
the Second Amendment I've seen proposed.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Nice USB Accessory

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Power _conversion_ is never 100% efficient.  In most of
these types of power supplies, the converted power is always
available, whether you're using it or not.  That's why I
like things with true power switches.

There is essentially no magnetic field around an unused
household outlet, because there's no power _flow_.  (There
is no H field, though there is an E field.)  The EM losses
do add up, which is why they've got extreme-voltage DC lines
for long distance.  The cost/losses of converting to/from HVDC
are less than the parasitic (E-field and H-field) losses of AC,
over the distances and power levels concerned.

Fascinating stuff.  Or totally boring, depending on your point
of view.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Curt:

Even the State Dept. has some sensible rules: They do not normally issue visas 
"out of district". If you reside in Pakistan, for example, the consulate in 
Jeddah will tell you to return to Islamabad to get your student visa. If you 
claim to be a refugee from Syria you don't need identity documents to apply for 
refugee status. The interviews you would undergo through this procedure will be 
conducted by those who are primed to want to believe that all you want is a 
secure life for your family, just like us.

I remember seeing clips of Lester Holt talking to one of the "refugees" saying 
he understands perfectly since he is a father too. So I guess Lester must fully 
understand Mr. Farook, since Farook was a father too.

It takes a lot of exposure to people of different cultures to understand that 
in some cases their value and belief systems are very different from ours.

Greg

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via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 2:30 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Curt Raymond
Subject: Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

Yeahbut, it seems like coming to the US as a refugee is an awful lot of work. 
You could come here on a student or other travel visa way easier with much less 
inspection. Particularly if you transit through a "friendly" country like Saudi 
where you obtain a fake ID. Why would terrorists pursue the most difficult 
possible method of entry?
-Curt
  From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'  
Cc: Greg Fiorentino 
 Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino
   
Andrew:

There is no realistic way to keep weapons away from those intent on harming
us. Require registration of kitchen knives, hammers, pressure cookers, cell
phones, diesel fuel and fertilizer?

It is the human hand that is the clear and present danger. It is the
deranged mind in the case of the CO theater shooter. It is the tenets of
fundamental islam that is the fertile ground for violent jihad.

How to find the individuals who can become a danger within a significant
population of muslims? That's not an easy question to answer. Perhaps as we
encourage more to settle in the US we will have more opportunities for
experimentation.

BTW, 2 years of vetting by USDOS and USCIS does not constitute a thorough
check. Ask me how I know this.

Greg

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Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 12:25 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

Instead of making light of this tragedy with misguided "humor", you should
be wondering how they acquired their stash of weaponry, ammo and pipe bomb
making materials with such apparent ease.

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The latest information indicates that after a stroll with their child Tues
> evening, the loving couple came home and put on a youtube video of
Algore's
> global warming movie.  After seeing it they were spontaneously moved to
> this attack.  Just a loving couple at home for an evening agitated by a
> youtube movie...
>
> --R
>
>
> On 12/4/15 3:15 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> There is a difference between crazy individuals (like the Batman film
>> shooter) and the group craziness of fundamental islam. That's why
>> intelligence analysts looked at this case as an act of terrorism
initially
>> when they saw that it was more than a single attacker.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb
>> C.
>> Striplin via Mercedes
>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 11:43 AM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino
>>
>> Exactly. How do you separate the crazy people from the non crazy people?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 4, 2015, at 1:38 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes
>>>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Farook, the San Bernardino shooter, was born in Chicago, Illinois and
>>>
>> raised in California. There was no indication that he was a radical
>> Muslim.
>>
>>> Thousands of muslims like Farook have grown up in America, have no
>>>
>> connection to radical muslim groups, and lead normal American lives.
>>
>>> How do you identify those who are likely to commit atrocities?
>>> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] OT: 34mm Negative Scanner - Mould on the originals

[Euan Kennedy via Mercedes]

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Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Andrew NO I wish to re-direct your thought logic. Over the past 60
years of being always in the company of loaded weapons, I have NEVER had
one come out of it's rack and assault me of it's own volition, ever.. Nor
has anyone else.

Do spoons in your drawer in the kitchen make you fat? Does food being
easily available at the supermarket force you to eat it? No. In both
examples, it requires you to make the conscience decision to use that item.
In the case of Muslim Violence, in California, and in Paris, and in the
27,000 other places since 9/11, individuals made the decision to use
violence against innocent people, not always with a gun.

Manufacture of a pipe bomb, such as were used in this instance [many such
bombs] is a FEDERAL CRIME... Did that deter these individuals from using
Muslim Violence? No.

If you care to educate and understand, for yourself, exactly the foundation
principles of islam, it is just such violent acts. 1,436 years worth of
them, millions killed.

"Gun control" has no meaning, other than to provide more unarmed victims
for the next attack.

Rant off...

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Instead of making light of this tragedy with misguided "humor", you should
> be wondering how they acquired their stash of weaponry, ammo and pipe bomb
> making materials with such apparent ease.
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > The latest information indicates that after a stroll with their child
> Tues
> > evening, the loving couple came home and put on a youtube video of
> Algore's
> > global warming movie.  After seeing it they were spontaneously moved to
> > this attack.  Just a loving couple at home for an evening agitated by a
> > youtube movie...
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> > On 12/4/15 3:15 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> There is a difference between crazy individuals (like the Batman film
> >> shooter) and the group craziness of fundamental islam. That's why
> >> intelligence analysts looked at this case as an act of terrorism
> initially
> >> when they saw that it was more than a single attacker.
> >>
> >> Greg
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Kaleb
> >> C.
> >> Striplin via Mercedes
> >> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 11:43 AM
> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> >> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino
> >>
> >> Exactly. How do you separate the crazy people from the non crazy people?
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Dec 4, 2015, at 1:38 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes
> >>>
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Farook, the San Bernardino shooter, was born in Chicago, Illinois and
> >>>
> >> raised in California. There was no indication that he was a radical
> >> Muslim.
> >>
> >>> Thousands of muslims like Farook have grown up in America, have no
> >>>
> >> connection to radical muslim groups, and lead normal American lives.
> >>
> >>> How do you identify those who are likely to commit atrocities?
> >>> Gerry
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Hopefully you got into the solar FIT program before it stopped accepting new 
members. FIT, and similar programs throughout the state, may have been stopped 
from accepting new members by the state government.

https://www.gru.com/AboutGRU/Content/SolarFIT.aspx

Gerry
~
> I don't get it. I'm up in Alachua co. and am in the process of 
> installing a solar array that will put unused electricity back 
> into the grid. At the end of the year if I have put in more then 
> I have used they will send me a check. Sounds to me like I will 
> be selling electricity to the power company. Possibly local laws 
> in Tampa are different? Or have you not checked recently?
> 
> Manfred
> 
> 
> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 10:27:22 -0500
> From: Dan Penoff 
> 
> What about the lobbyists for the power utilities who get laws 
> passed that make it impossible to use solar at your home?
> 
> The "Sunshine State" has some of the most restrictive laws 
> regarding solar power in the nation. I can go totally off grid, 
> but I can't produce and sell any of that power.
> 
> Dan who would go solar in a second, Chinee or not
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Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I would point out that despite the erroneous and inaccurate statements in the 
press, Snowden's revelations had nothing to do with any of this.

Terrorists and other such folks have been "dark" long before the Snowden 
information came out. For that matter, this was well known and understood by 
both sides even before 9/11.

I would point out also that the recent attack in Paris was planned and 
discussed over open, unencrypted channels. Unfortunately, it's such a huge 
amount of traffic to look at there's almost no way to separate things out from 
the noise.

Dan 

> On Dec 4, 2015, at 4:16 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Another facet of this I find interesting and alarming, Farook had past
> contact with suspicious individuals that the FBI was monitoring, but his
> contact appeared to stop over a year ago.  I'm wondering if that contact
> didn't really stop but instead "went dark" because he started communicating
> via encrypted means which neither NSA or the FBI could penetrate or
> monitor.  ISIS/ISIL/Daesh seems very adept at using technology to avoid
> detection and monitoring, thank you Edward Snowden.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

We were in Spain a few years back and driving around here and there, and 
at one point on the autobahn or whatever they call it, I see a sign for 
Something Nuclearismo or some such, and sure enough a coupla km down the 
road we pass a nuke just kinda sitting out in the middle of nothing.  It 
had fences and all, but not much else anywhere around.  They also had 
solar panels stuck all over the place and wind machines, most of which 
were not spinning.  At some place we passed a construction project where 
they were building another high-speed train line, not sure where it was 
coming from or going to, or how the sparsity of population centers out 
that way would provide any reasonable revenues (not that that was 
probably a goal).


My daughter did a semester there, and said the whole place was kinda 
sad, really high unemployment among the younger people, no particular 
view of the future.


--R

On 12/4/15 11:57 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

I believe I am correct in saying the Spanish company totally invested in
the focused reflector/hot salt , heat exchange to steam turbine generator
system of "solar power" 

Huge up front investment required for each installation. Gigantic reliance
on government grants to fund those installations all over the world..

In each case... cost overruns out the wazzz, [government project,
right?] and once completed... VERY poor return per sunlight/electricity.
Goals vs Result = Failure to produce.

I may be painting with an overly broad brush, but I believe it to be the
picture. Spanish government is broke and pulled continuation of grants..
Other worldwide installations/government grants ran out, were not
extended..

Bankruptcy follows because it cost more to make power than power is
produced.

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Germany is probably a lot more comparable to the US than Spain in most
ways although I suppose we're always chasing Spain on political
corruption...
-Curt
   From: archer75--- via Mercedes 
  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: "arche...@embarqmail.com" 
  Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 11:34 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

 From an industrial and solar perspective, Germany is more comparable to
the U.S. than Spain, and their installed solar base is significant and
expanding. It will be interesting to see how their plans to continue going
heavily solar/wind work out; assuming that another Schicklgruber* doesn't
arise from their growing Nazi-like parties.
Gerry


http://www.nytimes.com/1990/05/06/opinion/l-hitler-never-really-was-schicklgruber-016390.html
~

G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:


Sorta reminds me of when IRS seized a little place in Nevada, called "The
Mustang Ranch" .. which was making money hand over ... ehhhmmm well fist"
selling whiskey and renting women. So much money, IRS said it wasn't

paying

enough taxes...

Government took it over and lost so much money selling whiskey and whores
they had to close the place down.. Yep... imagine that... after over 75

yrs

of being a profitable business.. 1 yr. of government oversight...

closed..

I guess we just need more government to make it work.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


This relates to a couple of other threads:

We needa be more like Yurp!  Seems Spain, that model of manufacturing
productivity, has lotsa solar.  There ya go Andrew!  They even put

solar

panels  on top of graves!




http://www.therebel.media/paris_climate_conference_spain_s_abengoa_solar_goes_bankrupt

Pay heed to the connection between utility cost (manipulated by the
goobers) and manufacturing.

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Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I have not yet heard anything our Federal Government is doing that might be
effective at preventing similar terrorist acts here.

Under W our military was killing them "over there" before they came here to
kill us.  Under O, looks like it will be up to citizens, local police and
sheriff.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 3:38 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Andrew NO I wish to re-direct your thought logic. Over the past 60
> years of being always in the company of loaded weapons, I have NEVER had
> one come out of it's rack and assault me of it's own volition, ever.. Nor
> has anyone else.
>
> Do spoons in your drawer in the kitchen make you fat? Does food being
> easily available at the supermarket force you to eat it? No. In both
> examples, it requires you to make the conscience decision to use that item.
> In the case of Muslim Violence, in California, and in Paris, and in the
> 27,000 other places since 9/11, individuals made the decision to use
> violence against innocent people, not always with a gun.
>
> Manufacture of a pipe bomb, such as were used in this instance [many such
> bombs] is a FEDERAL CRIME... Did that deter these individuals from using
> Muslim Violence? No.
>
> If you care to educate and understand, for yourself, exactly the foundation
> principles of islam, it is just such violent acts. 1,436 years worth of
> them, millions killed.
>
> "Gun control" has no meaning, other than to provide more unarmed victims
> for the next attack.
>
> Rant off...
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Instead of making light of this tragedy with misguided "humor", you
> should
> > be wondering how they acquired their stash of weaponry, ammo and pipe
> bomb
> > making materials with such apparent ease.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The latest information indicates that after a stroll with their child
> > Tues
> > > evening, the loving couple came home and put on a youtube video of
> > Algore's
> > > global warming movie.  After seeing it they were spontaneously moved to
> > > this attack.  Just a loving couple at home for an evening agitated by a
> > > youtube movie...
> > >
> > > --R
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12/4/15 3:15 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
> > >
> > >> There is a difference between crazy individuals (like the Batman film
> > >> shooter) and the group craziness of fundamental islam. That's why
> > >> intelligence analysts looked at this case as an act of terrorism
> > initially
> > >> when they saw that it was more than a single attacker.
> > >>
> > >> Greg
> > >>
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> > Kaleb
> > >> C.
> > >> Striplin via Mercedes
> > >> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 11:43 AM
> > >> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > >> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
> > >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino
> > >>
> > >> Exactly. How do you separate the crazy people from the non crazy
> people?
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >> On Dec 4, 2015, at 1:38 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes
> > >>>
> > >>  wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Farook, the San Bernardino shooter, was born in Chicago, Illinois and
> > >>>
> > >> raised in California. There was no indication that he was a radical
> > >> Muslim.
> > >>
> > >>> Thousands of muslims like Farook have grown up in America, have no
> > >>>
> > >> connection to radical muslim groups, and lead normal American lives.
> > >>
> > >>> How do you identify those who are likely to commit atrocities?
> > >>> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Family fun - was: New Neighbors

[clay via Mercedes]

The back country hill folk Scots Irish were transported or came as indentured 
service.   When George and his boys were emancipated, the less desirable people 
ended up down under.   In the south, the scots tended to not like the english, 
so kept moving west to get away from them.  Holler by holler the rural areas 
were populated.   Much turmoil under the Stuart kings, and residue when George 
I ascended the throne that kept unhappy people finding safer grounds in America.

clay




On Dec 3, 2015, at 7:03 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

> Certainly not the case with my Yankee ancestors.  Considering the non-slave
> populations of Northern vs. Southern states (pre 1860) and the fact the
> potato famine was 1845-1860, probably not the case for most Scots-Irish.
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From:  Rich Thomas via Mercedes
>> 
>> Scots Irish were imported to this area to run the plantations and be the
>> overseers of the slaves.  Buckras.  They seemed to have some sort of
> affinity
>> or background in that role but I forget what it was.
>> Apparently a lot of them came over to do that.
>> 
>> --R
> 
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Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Turns out the "wife's" name is not a real female name, it is the same as some 
old Muslim king or something who smote various enemies.   A nom de guerre?

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Dec 4, 2015, at 7:00 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
wrote:

No I get it, I know not everybody is a "nice person" but it seems odd to me 
that nobody was talking about Syrian refugees a month ago and now its suddenly 
a hot button issue after one attack in a place that isn't here which might have 
included somebody who might have been Syrian but nobody really knows...
-Curt

 From: Greg Fiorentino 
To: 'Curt Raymond' ; 'Mercedes Discussion List' 
 
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 6:29 PM
Subject: RE: [MBZ] San Bernardino

Curt:

Even the State Dept. has some sensible rules: They do not normally issue visas 
"out of district". If you reside in Pakistan, for example, the consulate in 
Jeddah will tell you to return to Islamabad to get your student visa. If you 
claim to be a refugee from Syria you don't need identity documents to apply for 
refugee status. The interviews you would undergo through this procedure will be 
conducted by those who are primed to want to believe that all you want is a 
secure life for your family, just like us.

I remember seeing clips of Lester Holt talking to one of the "refugees" saying 
he understands perfectly since he is a father too. So I guess Lester must fully 
understand Mr. Farook, since Farook was a father too.

It takes a lot of exposure to people of different cultures to understand that 
in some cases their value and belief systems are very different from ours.

Greg



-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond 
via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 2:30 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Curt Raymond
Subject: Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

Yeahbut, it seems like coming to the US as a refugee is an awful lot of work. 
You could come here on a student or other travel visa way easier with much less 
inspection. Particularly if you transit through a "friendly" country like Saudi 
where you obtain a fake ID. Why would terrorists pursue the most difficult 
possible method of entry?
-Curt
  From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'  
Cc: Greg Fiorentino 
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino
 
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[MBZ] OM60x Vacuum Pump

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

There was some way to determine if a vacuum pump was  the 1986/87 
style vacuum pump that would puke its balls into the timing 
chain/crankcase and the later style that did no lose its ball when 
the bearing goes bad.  How do I tell which I have?


Thanks!


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Re: [MBZ] OM60x Vacuum Pump

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

That was what I thought, but the one I am looking at is crimped and 
has 4 screws in the front.  Seems to me the new one I bought a couple 
years ago was that way too.


My memory was crimped = old = bad;  screws = good


Crimped and screws = confusion



Front cover crimped on v screwed on.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 4, 2015, at 6:28 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:


 There was some way to determine if a vacuum pump was  the 1986/87 
style vacuum pump that would puke its balls into the timing 
chain/crankcase and the later style that did no lose its ball when 
the bearing goes bad.  How do I tell which I have?


 Thanks!


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Re: [MBZ] OM60x Vacuum Pump

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Correct

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 4, 2015, at 7:10 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That was what I thought, but the one I am looking at is crimped and has 4 
> screws in the front.  Seems to me the new one I bought a couple years ago was 
> that way too.
> 
> My memory was crimped = old = bad;  screws = good
> 
> 
> Crimped and screws = confusion
> 
> 
>> Front cover crimped on v screwed on.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2015, at 6:28 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There was some way to determine if a vacuum pump was  the 1986/87 style 
>>> vacuum pump that would puke its balls into the timing chain/crankcase and 
>>> the later style that did no lose its ball when the bearing goes bad.  How 
>>> do I tell which I have?
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OM60x Vacuum Pump

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On December 4, 2015 at 8:12 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Correct

So, if there exist screws on the cover, it's a good one?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 124 tach/idle speed

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Can't help you on the pins but I would suggest getting one of the cheap little 
oscilloscope kits. $30 or less delivered to your door by a certified agent of 
the United States gummint from a variety of chinee vendors, a bit of soldering 
and you have a useful little tool., good enough for car work. 

Disclaimer: I have one but haven't soldered it up yet. 

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Dec 4, 2015, at 7:52 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:

Now that I have proven that a tach signal exists before it goes into the 
computer, the next step seems to be to see if there is a signal at the Klima 
and at the tach itself.

Does anyone know which pin on the KLIMA is the pin for the tach signal?  Could 
it be the RR pin that is labeled T?

If the signal exists at both places, then the problem os pretty much isolated 
to the tach itself.

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[MBZ] OT: SUV

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Rental SUV available, slight damage caused by climate change:

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8qsdr8uiacmcijo/SUV.jpg?dl=0

 

Greg

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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

[MG via Mercedes]

Ah so it is your local company that is doing you. Here the 
Gainesville regional utilities even had a thing going where they 
helped buy you a system but that went out a couple of years ago 
and I'm not in Gainesville anyway. I guess that's why all those 
people are out trying to get a law passed about the right to be 
allowed to put a system up. I keep telling them that we have that 
right already but maybe not everywhere and it looks like it may 
not last unless something is done about the lobbyists from the 
electric companies.


Manfred


Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 13:17:24 -0500
From: Dan Penoff 


I don?t know about your area, but around here it?s TECO, or Tampa 
Electric Company, which was just purchased yesterday by a 
Canadian firm.  They used to have a lottery at the beginning of 
the year for a fixed number of permits they would issue to 
purchase point-of-use power.  I don?t know the number but the 
word was that it was pretty small, maybe a few hundred at most.


They stopped the program this year, so it?s not even an option at 
this point.


The state laws are involved in some means as well:

http://fcir.org/2015/04/03/in-sunshine-state-big-energy-blocks-solar-power/

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] OM60x Vacuum Pump

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Front cover crimped on v screwed on.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 4, 2015, at 6:28 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> There was some way to determine if a vacuum pump was  the 1986/87 style 
> vacuum pump that would puke its balls into the timing chain/crankcase and the 
> later style that did no lose its ball when the bearing goes bad.  How do I 
> tell which I have?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OM60x Vacuum Pump

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Supposedly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 4, 2015, at 7:20 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On December 4, 2015 at 8:12 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Correct
> 
> So, if there exist screws on the cover, it's a good one?
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

No I get it, I know not everybody is a "nice person" but it seems odd to me 
that nobody was talking about Syrian refugees a month ago and now its suddenly 
a hot button issue after one attack in a place that isn't here which might have 
included somebody who might have been Syrian but nobody really knows...
-Curt

  From: Greg Fiorentino 
 To: 'Curt Raymond' ; 'Mercedes Discussion List' 
 
 Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 6:29 PM
 Subject: RE: [MBZ] San Bernardino
   
Curt:

Even the State Dept. has some sensible rules: They do not normally issue visas 
"out of district". If you reside in Pakistan, for example, the consulate in 
Jeddah will tell you to return to Islamabad to get your student visa. If you 
claim to be a refugee from Syria you don't need identity documents to apply for 
refugee status. The interviews you would undergo through this procedure will be 
conducted by those who are primed to want to believe that all you want is a 
secure life for your family, just like us.

I remember seeing clips of Lester Holt talking to one of the "refugees" saying 
he understands perfectly since he is a father too. So I guess Lester must fully 
understand Mr. Farook, since Farook was a father too.

It takes a lot of exposure to people of different cultures to understand that 
in some cases their value and belief systems are very different from ours.

Greg



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via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 2:30 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Curt Raymond
Subject: Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

Yeahbut, it seems like coming to the US as a refugee is an awful lot of work. 
You could come here on a student or other travel visa way easier with much less 
inspection. Particularly if you transit through a "friendly" country like Saudi 
where you obtain a fake ID. Why would terrorists pursue the most difficult 
possible method of entry?
-Curt
      From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'  
Cc: Greg Fiorentino 
 Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino
  
Andrew:

There is no realistic way to keep weapons away from those intent on harming
us. Require registration of kitchen knives, hammers, pressure cookers, cell
phones, diesel fuel and fertilizer?

It is the human hand that is the clear and present danger. It is the
deranged mind in the case of the CO theater shooter. It is the tenets of
fundamental islam that is the fertile ground for violent jihad.

How to find the individuals who can become a danger within a significant
population of muslims? That's not an easy question to answer. Perhaps as we
encourage more to settle in the US we will have more opportunities for
experimentation.

BTW, 2 years of vetting by USDOS and USCIS does not constitute a thorough
check. Ask me how I know this.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 12:25 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

Instead of making light of this tragedy with misguided "humor", you should
be wondering how they acquired their stash of weaponry, ammo and pipe bomb
making materials with such apparent ease.

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The latest information indicates that after a stroll with their child Tues
> evening, the loving couple came home and put on a youtube video of
Algore's
> global warming movie.  After seeing it they were spontaneously moved to
> this attack.  Just a loving couple at home for an evening agitated by a
> youtube movie...
>
> --R
>
>
> On 12/4/15 3:15 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> There is a difference between crazy individuals (like the Batman film
>> shooter) and the group craziness of fundamental islam. That's why
>> intelligence analysts looked at this case as an act of terrorism
initially
>> when they saw that it was more than a single attacker.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb
>> C.
>> Striplin via Mercedes
>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 11:43 AM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino
>>
>> Exactly. How do you separate the crazy people from the non crazy people?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 4, 2015, at 1:38 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes
>>>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Farook, the San Bernardino shooter, was born in Chicago, Illinois and
>>>
>> raised in California. There was no indication that he was a radical
>> Muslim.
>>
>>> Thousands of muslims like Farook have grown up in America, have no
>>>
>> 

Re: [MBZ] OT: 34mm Negative Scanner - Digital ICE Rocks

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Can you use Vuescan with images acquired via a camera instead of a scanner?
I plan to use my Nikon D700 camera like I used to use the F3 for
duplicating slides, etc.

On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 6:49 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Vuescan works well for Eastman (or other pre-programmed) films, but if
> there isn't a profile it can take quite a while to get good color.
> Needless to say, I have all sorts of strange films that are not on the list.
>
> The thing I like the best is the ability to control contrast, it's fairly
> easy to restore faded slides and negatives, and rescue under-development.
>
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Greg writes:

>It takes a lot of exposure to people of different cultures to understand that 
>in some cases their value and >belief systems are very different from ours.

Emphasis on *VERY*.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

[MG via Mercedes]

No that doesn't apply to me. I am a part of the Clay Electric Coop.

Manfred


Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 17:14:30 -0500
From: "arche...@embarqmail.com" 

Hopefully you got into the solar FIT program before it stopped accepting new 
members. FIT, and similar programs throughout the state, may have been stopped 
from accepting new members by the state government.

https://www.gru.com/AboutGRU/Content/SolarFIT.aspx

Gerry



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Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On December 4, 2015 at 7:11 PM Rich Thomas via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Turns out the "wife's" name is not a real female name, it is the same as some
> old Muslim king or something who smote various enemies.   A nom de guerre?

Only in the way that calling myself "Joan of Arc" or a woman calling herself Guy
Fawkes would be. 

Mitch. 

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[MBZ] 124 tach/idle speed

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Now that I have proven that a tach signal exists before it goes into 
the computer, the next step seems to be to see if there is a signal 
at the Klima and at the tach itself.


Does anyone know which pin on the KLIMA is the pin for the tach 
signal?  Could it be the RR pin that is labeled T?


If the signal exists at both places, then the problem os pretty much 
isolated to the tach itself.


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Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

So you have some barrels of gunpowder and planning a visit to your legislature? 
 What a guy!

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Dec 4, 2015, at 7:49 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
wrote:



> On December 4, 2015 at 7:11 PM Rich Thomas via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Turns out the "wife's" name is not a real female name, it is the same as some
> old Muslim king or something who smote various enemies.   A nom de guerre?

Only in the way that calling myself "Joan of Arc" or a woman calling herself Guy
Fawkes would be. 

Mitch. 

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Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I checked the tach signal at the battery box.  With a low idle I got 
about 3V with the fluke on AC, the V reading went up proportionately 
with the speed, so I pronounced the signal good.  Looks like I need 
to figger out how to change the capacitor Jim referred to.


Thanks much to Fred, Max, Jim, and others.  Where to find that plug 
and how to check it was good info!



Fred was the source for the wire by the battery, I remember it is a
two-wire connector but I don't remember the colors.  My wiring diagram says
one wire is white, other is brown with a yellow stripe.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


 Thanks!

 Going out to check for a signal as Max suggested.  I looked before, but
 didn't see much from above.  I'll look again.  I think i found the cable
 plug Max referred to behind the battery.  Brown and a white/? or ?/white
 wires.

 Curly.

 The pickup is viewable from the top but accessed from underneath.
 Fred

 >>

 
 From: Mercedes  on behalf of Curly McLain
 via Mercedes 
 Sent: 02 December 2015 13:52
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Cc: Curly McLain
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 tachometers

 Check the connection for the Hall effect pickup at the rear of the

 engine.  It often gets corroded, being exposed to road splash, and
 gives an intermittent or very low signal.  Mine works (as does the
 idle speed control) only when it's wet, never have gotten around to
 fixing it.

 Might be a bad hall effect pickup, it's in the bell housing above
 the starter if I remember correctly.

 Peter



 Thanks Fred and Peter for this info.  Is the sensor accessed from the

 >> hood or from underneath the car?
 >>


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Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On December 4, 2015 at 8:05 PM Rich Thomas
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> So you have some barrels of gunpowder and planning a visit to your
> legislature?  What a guy!

No, I'm Jeanne d'Arc.
Your wife is Guy Fawkes. 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: SUV

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Salvage title ex-rental.  Lo miles. Tires fair.  Winsheeld cracked but you're 
insurance will replace free. minor body damage will buff right out. 

No tire kickers will meet at mosque lot only. Bring cash or trade for guns.

Text Mo using encrypted mode only. 

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Dec 4, 2015, at 8:19 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Rental SUV available, slight damage caused by climate change:



https://www.dropbox.com/s/8qsdr8uiacmcijo/SUV.jpg?dl=0



Greg

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Re: [MBZ] OT: 34mm Negative Scanner - Digital ICE Rocks

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Yes, you can process images acquired from other sources.  Haven't done  
much of that, but it can be done.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT: SUV

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I was hoping for higher resolution pitcher.  I might wanna rent that un.



Rental SUV available, slight damage caused by climate change:



https://www.dropbox.com/s/8qsdr8uiacmcijo/SUV.jpg?dl=0



Greg


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Re: [MBZ] OM60x Vacuum Pump

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Supposedly

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 4, 2015, at 7:20 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:





 On December 4, 2015 at 8:12 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
  wrote:


 Correct


 So, if there exist screws on the cover, it's a good one?


 > Mitch.
 >


So, crimped and screws is the new (good) style?

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Re: [MBZ] 124 tach/idle speed

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Well, it I poke around with the fluke on AC and find a 3 v terminal, 
that would be it, I guess.  I could start with the T and then check 
86 and 87 to verify.


Faster than waiting 3-4 weeks for a chinee oscil kit to show up.  I 
am not set up for desolder/resolder lectronics repair like Jim is.


The question is:  What controls the idle speed?  I know there is the 
EDS plug on the IP, and the dealie on the firewall with the numbers 
to set the idles speed.  BTW, i checked it today, and it is set up to 
7 (of 7) so no help there.  I'm guessing the tach signal goes into 
the computer and then it sends a signal to the dealie on the firewall 
could be a bad computer.  If no signal at the KLIMA and no signal at 
the tach, but we know the tach signal is good going into the 
computer, then maybe the computer is bad.



Can't help you on the pins but I would suggest getting one of the 
cheap little oscilloscope kits. $30 or less delivered to your door 
by a certified agent of the United States gummint from a variety of 
chinee vendors, a bit of soldering and you have a useful little 
tool., good enough for car work.


Disclaimer: I have one but haven't soldered it up yet.

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Dec 4, 2015, at 7:52 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Now that I have proven that a tach signal exists before it goes into 
the computer, the next step seems to be to see if there is a signal 
at the Klima and at the tach itself.


Does anyone know which pin on the KLIMA is the pin for the tach 
signal?  Could it be the RR pin that is labeled T?


If the signal exists at both places, then the problem os pretty much 
isolated to the tach itself.


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[MBZ] Easiest fix

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Last night, for the first time in 20 years, the Genie overhead door started 
stopping midway, backing up, and generally misbehaving.
Using the 'net and the very complete manual that came with the Genie, I guessed 
that the trouble was in the little unit that ran up and down the long screw, 
pushing and pulling the door open and closed. 
Opening and closing the door by hand is not easy since the the long spring that 
helps support the door had weakened over time and the door was "heavy" to raise 
and lower by hand.
There was a little bit left in an old can of WD-40 that my wife had used to 
remove sticky labels, so I squirted it in the little unit and the motor/screw 
area, crossed my fingers, and hit the button. 

Voila! It opened the door normally and did so as well today. I don't expect 
that fix to last, so I'll order another small unit and hope that the trouble 
wasn't in the motor/screw area.
Many people poo poo WD-40, but it definitely gave me time to do a better fix 
later.
Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] 124 tach/idle speed

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

The "dealie" on the firewall is a resistor array, it just tells the  
computer what speed to set.  The computer reads the idle speed and  
move the rack via the solenoid at the back of the IP to get the speed  
required, and the other electrical connection on the front top of the  
IP is the rack position sensor, which tells the computer if the rack  
is moving.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Easiest fix

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

In the morning you can pull the release handle to disconnect the door from the
opener, and readjust the spring tension. Just make sure you're in a safe place
when/if a spring breaks. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

By all accounts from his co-workers, he was a quiet guy who raised no
suspicions, reasonably sociable, and a model employee who won awards for
his work as a health inspector.  No one had a clue he was capable of
committing such an atrocity.  My theory is that the fiancee entered the
country with plans for an attack.  It isn't clear what the strategic
advantage was from choosing this target, which was a virtual United Nations
of diverse individuals from many countries and religions.

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 8:31 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> He did. He met her online and made a special trip to meet her.
>
> The theory that makes the most sense to me is that they were planning some
> sort of attack with their stockpiles ammunition and bombs, and something
> that was said or done at the gathering of the people with whom he worked
> inspired them to shoot up the party rather than pick a different target.
> Gerry
>
> > This one found wife online in Saudi Arabia and traveled there to meet
> and "collect" her, didn't he?
> >
> > Wilton
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "archer75--- via Mercedes" 
> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> > Cc: 
> > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 2:38 PM
> > Subject: [MBZ] San Bernardino
> >
> >
> > > Farook, the San Bernardino shooter, was born in Chicago, Illinois and
> > > raised in California. There was no indication that he was a radical
> > > Muslim.
> > > Thousands of muslims like Farook have grown up in America, have no
> > > connection to radical muslim groups, and lead normal American lives.
> > > How do you identify those who are likely to commit atrocities?
> > > Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] OM60x Vacuum Pump

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I have a spare used IP timer I'll sell you for a lot less than a new timer
from the dealer, if you need it.

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] 124 tach/idle speed

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Pull the instrument cluster and test the signal at the Tachometer, same
test procedure as you have used for the pick-up sensor.

Disconnect the solenoid at the back of the injection pump and the idle
should fall to the mechanical setting of about 500 RPM.  There is a
mechanical idle adjustment on the back of the IP, loosen the lock nut and
turn the shaft to increase the idle to ~750 RPM.  Leave the solenoid
disconnected, the only thing you loose is an increased idle speed when the
engine is cold and when you engage the AC compressor.  I've managed to live
without both for about a decade.

The engine RPM signal to the KLIMA comes from a different pin on the EDS
computer than the signal for the tachometer function.  In other words,
presence or lack of a signal at the KLIMA may not tell you anything about
the presence or lack of a signal at the tachometer.

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Easiest fix

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Yes, attend to those springs!  If they have a cable run through the center
to hold the pieces if the spring breaks, that is a good thing.  I'd say
don't bother trying to adjust them tighter, just replace them.  Lowes had
generic springs for like $20 a set.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 10:26 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> In the morning you can pull the release handle to disconnect the door from
> the
> opener, and readjust the spring tension. Just make sure you're in a safe
> place
> when/if a spring breaks.
>
> Mitch.
>
>
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[MBZ] I found the car for Poos

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-LWB-Limousine-/281875461409?forcerrptr=true=item41a1163521:g:7kUAAOSwnH1WYcZg=281875461409 



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Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

He did. He met her online and made a special trip to meet her.

The theory that makes the most sense to me is that they were planning some sort 
of attack with their stockpiles ammunition and bombs, and something that was 
said or done at the gathering of the people with whom he worked inspired them 
to shoot up the party rather than pick a different target.
Gerry

> This one found wife online in Saudi Arabia and traveled there to meet and 
> "collect" her, didn't he?
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "archer75--- via Mercedes" 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 2:38 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] San Bernardino
> 
> 
> > Farook, the San Bernardino shooter, was born in Chicago, Illinois and 
> > raised in California. There was no indication that he was a radical 
> > Muslim.
> > Thousands of muslims like Farook have grown up in America, have no 
> > connection to radical muslim groups, and lead normal American lives.
> > How do you identify those who are likely to commit atrocities?
> > Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Easiest fix

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

There is a 3/4" rod running through the springs. I don't see a cable.
I'll try to find new springs at Lowes. Probably best since the springs are 
quite rusty.
Thanks,
Gerry

> Yes, attend to those springs!  If they have a cable run through the center
> to hold the pieces if the spring breaks, that is a good thing.  I'd say
> don't bother trying to adjust them tighter, just replace them.  Lowes had
> generic springs for like $20 a set.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] OT: SUV

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Darn liars at the rental agency said that this one had bullet-proof windows!

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich
Thomas via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 5:35 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Rich Thomas
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: SUV

Salvage title ex-rental.  Lo miles. Tires fair.  Winsheeld cracked but
you're insurance will replace free. minor body damage will buff right out. 

No tire kickers will meet at mosque lot only. Bring cash or trade for guns.

Text Mo using encrypted mode only. 

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Dec 4, 2015, at 8:19 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
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Rental SUV available, slight damage caused by climate change:



https://www.dropbox.com/s/8qsdr8uiacmcijo/SUV.jpg?dl=0



Greg

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Re: [MBZ] OM60x Vacuum Pump

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

OK, I checked the t here on cars.  The newest one I got from Q is 
crimped and has 4 screws on the front, the one on the heap is the 
same.  The one on the "new" 300D has no screws.



SO:  ALL are crimped.  The BAD ones are flat front.  The GOOD ones 
have screws on the front.



The bad one I need to replace is the bad kind, and the used one I got 
today is the newer "good" kind.


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Re: [MBZ] San Bernardino

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Ah grasshopper, you miss the obvious.  they are all infidels.

Andrew sez:  By all accounts from his co-workers, he was a quiet guy 
who raised no

suspicions, reasonably sociable, and a model employee who won awards for
his work as a health inspector.  No one had a clue he was capable of
committing such an atrocity.  My theory is that the fiancee entered the
country with plans for an attack.  It isn't clear what the strategic
advantage was from choosing this target, which was a virtual United Nations
of diverse individuals from many countries and religions.



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Re: [MBZ] We needa be more like yurp!

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Here's what I found on Clay Electrics website: 

"Member Generated Power
Seminole Electric Cooperative, Inc., through Clay Electric, will purchase 
electricity generated and delivered to Clay Electric from any of its members' 
qualifying small photovoltaic systems of 100kW or less, under the provisions of 
section 25 of the (PDF)

Looks like Clay Electric is one of the few power companies in Florida that buy 
back excess solar power.
Gerry


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