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Re: [MBZ] 230SL and OT 2nd Amendment celebration

2015-12-13 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

automatic shotgun with a pistol grip, but several on the list said 
there would be too much kick.


I disagree.  The arm can absorb a lot of recoil, if you hold
it right.  (Not with your elbow locked.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] cops and vid games wuz: 230SL and OT 2nd Amendment celebration

2015-12-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

I suspect the moose was surprised when a .477-450 500 grain chunk of lead came 
in one ear canal and bounced around in the cranium...
-Curt

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 Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 8:29 PM
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>I think you mean melanin. Melatonin is the thing that makes you sleepy.
>My cousins have shot 6 or 7 moose with a total of 80 or 90 shots. 
>Dad and I have shot 2 with a total of 2 shots. The mistake most 
>people make with a moose is to shoot center mass so they just blow 
>holes through the guts. My bullet went in through the shoulder, 
>through one lung, nicked the heart, through the other lung and 
>lodged just under the skin on the far side. Winchester .348, I've 
>still got the bullet. He took one step and was gone.
>Dad shot his moose in the left ear. That was the most humane kill 
>imaginable...
>-Curt


Oops!  right you are.

Congrats on the 2 fer 2.  That'll getcha a Dan'l Boone award.

Archery is good for eye control for aiming.  If you learn to look at 
a pinhead on the face of the 36" target, you can do pretty well, vs 
looking at the bullseye or the whole target.

I suspect this is a shortcoming in the popo training.  I suspect your 
dad was looking at a flea in the critter's ear.


 
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Re: [MBZ] 230SL and OT 2nd Amendment celebration

2015-12-13 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes


Our state was shotgun only, but banned 410.  Had to be 20, 16 or 12.

Since they allowed BP rifles, I'd use a BP rifle if i wanted to go 
deer hunting again, and had funds for a BP Rifle.  Way more accurate 
than a 12 ga slug.



Wha?
Dad has a British Enfield that had been converted from .303 to .410 
for police duty in India. Works a treat as a deer gun in southern 
Maine where most places are shotgun only. Gets you stopped by the 
possum cops occasionally and its a bit heavy to carry.I never did 
shoot a deer with it but got several partridge and a rabbit.

-Curt

  From: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
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 Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 8:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 230SL and OT 2nd Amendment celebration
  
I always wanted to carry the 410 with slugs for deer hunting, but the

state sed no.  I know I'd have done better with it, and I'd a not
shot unless I knew it would drop it.  the 410 had rifle sights and a
flatter trajectory than a 12.  Not a lot different in ft lb than a
30 30.  THe state just didn't want the town morons out blasting
indiscriminately with a 410 or a rifle.



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Re: [MBZ] 230SL and OT 2nd Amendment celebration

2015-12-13 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

That'd be the 600 JR. What I had.

Btw, the WIn AA was originally a trap load. (back in my day)
generally 1 1/8 of 7 1/2

Dad and I have Mec presses in 12, 16, 20 and .410. Its annoying to
have to change the dies, best to just have more presses. I can't
remember the model but "Junior" seems to come up in my mind. I've
got a Lee Loader (plastic Mec copy) in .410.
Theres not much money savings in loading your own anymore, buy 'em
buy the case at Wal-Mart...

-Curt

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Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 230SL and OT 2nd Amendment celebration

Assuming its this
stuff:
http://www.basspro.com/Winchester-AA-Supersport-Sporting-Clay-Target-Load-Shotshells/product/67821/or

similar I see your problem, 3 1/4 dram equivalent is heavy. The dram
was a measure of black powder back in the olden days.Save some
money, go to Wal-Mart and get whatever the cheapest game loads are,
they'll be 2 3/4 or 3 dram, get # 7 1/2 or 8 shot (#7 shot is almost
unheard of for reasons I don't recall) and you'll be just as well
off. When you start regularly shooting 25 straight then consider the
fancier ammo...
Or buy a reloading press and make your own, a good bonding
experience with the boy. I have fond memories of reloading a couple
of boxes of shells with my dad.
-Curt

I got or bought empty AA casings. They were great for reloading.
You could use them 10 to 20 times. This was at the same time federal
was still using paper for some products. I had Mec dies for 12 and
16 and a lee loader for 410

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