date:20160425

GMann sez:  I had no idea the Koch Brother were rabid 
environmentalist... of all the

times I've met with them.. they never mentioned it once...

I'll have to ask them now.


I think the autocorrect tripped up andrew.  He meant Kook brothers, 
of which he is one.   Stupid autocorrect changed it to  Koch, of 
which he is not.


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Re: [MBZ] blue efficiency

2016-04-25 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

I had no idea the Koch Brother were rabid environmentalist... of all the
times I've met with them.. they never mentioned it once...

I'll have to ask them now.


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> Sure you don't mean the Koch brothers lies?
> On Apr 25, 2016 5:49 PM, "Curly McLain via Mercedes" <
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Re: [MBZ] blue efficiency

*"BlueEFFICIENCY means* reducing consumption, 
saving on costs and protecting the environment. 
We use the umbrella term *BlueEFFICIENCY* for a 
series of innovative, intelligently combined 
measures which noticeably reduce fuel 
consumption and CO2 emissions."


Which is marketing-speak for total horse scheiss.

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It is Huhn sprechen because MB buys into the albore Stierdünge

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[MBZ] why are all the cool green cars gassers

2016-04-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-Sedan-/182106860567?forcerrptr=true=item2a666a2c17:g:YscAAOSwaZdXHqmm=182106860567

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Re: [MBZ] blue efficiency

2016-04-25 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


I wonder how much longer I could have gone without ever hearing of CGI engines if not for this thread. (apparently CGI is the petrol version of CDI, so I guess it's not surprising it would klatta)Mitch
 

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Re: [MBZ] blue efficiency

2016-04-25 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes

Curly, 
Saw a show on TV yesterday. Some guy is shortly releasing a movie and will name 
names and expose all the lies around global warming, climate change or 
whatever. He talks about how the left liberals make a date claim, the date 
arrives with no events, they line through that date and pick another farther 
out. It's all about more government control and spending tax dollars with their 
buddies companies to solve a non-existent problem. They even had Prince Charles 
mumbling about it in usual Brit speak (probably in between trysts with what's 
her name). Should be a good movie if Soros doesn't have him killed or invite 
him to dinner and slip him the CIA heart attack drink. Reminds me of a curious 
comment I saw recently about how come we didn't autopsy a Supreme, but big news 
about doing an autopsy on a music icon. Strange world we've let become around 
us. 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com 


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Re: [MBZ] blue efficiency

*"BlueEFFICIENCY means* reducing consumption, saving on costs and 
protecting the environment. We use the umbrella term *BlueEFFICIENCY* 
for a series of innovative, intelligently combined measures which 
noticeably reduce fuel consumption and CO2 emissions."


Which is marketing-speak for total horse scheiss.

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On 4/25/16 5:30 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
https://www.google.ca/?gws_rd=ssl#q=what+does+blue+efficiency+mean+on+mercedes 



RB

On 25/04/2016 4:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
I have no idea. I have seen that badge on the bluetec diesels and it 
made sense but I have also seen it on the gassers as well. I have 
also seen Hyundai gas cars with blue something or other on them.


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On Apr 25, 2016, at 3:54 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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I was getting gas this aft and some guy pulls up the other side of 
the pump in an E350 coupe that had "blue efficiency" badged on the 
side of the fender.  I figured it was a diesel and was gonna talk to 
the guy but he was putting petrol in it.  I looked at the back, 
nothing on the lid about diesel and I couldn't see a blue tank 
filler by the fuel hole that he was putting gas in, so this had me 
puzzled.  What is "blue efficiency"?


When he started up and drove off it klattered like a dizzel.

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Re: [MBZ] VW to offer to buy back nearly 500,000 U.S. diesel cars


Tell us more about these techniques for certain types of green plants

--R

On 4/25/16 3:55 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

‎Curly sez:

KISS. What happens when there is >more CO2? More green living
things grow, they USE the co2 >and EXHALE O2.

That is correct. In my youth I studied indoor growing techniques for certain 
leafy green plant materials. Additional CO2 is one of the tricks to accelerated 
growth. Seems to me, if plants are designed to respire more CO2 than is 
currently available in our atmosphere, at one time, perhaps in the distant 
past, there WAS more CO2 in the atmosphere. And, it most certainly was NOT a 
product of human activity.

  
Rick

Just an observation, from an uneducated rube.
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Re: [MBZ] your granny?

You know if I won the Powerball between now and the auction I'd go buy 
that thing and just drive it like it has been and was meant to be.  I 
doubt it would diminish in value by use unless it got smashed.


--R

On 4/25/16 3:47 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Wish the lady who bought this new was my grandmother.

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Re: [MBZ] Lawnmower parts

What's up with these zero-turn mowing things that cost more than any of 
my Benzes (except the ML)?  Damn, I would just mount some mower decks 
under the TD and have at it for those prices.  They start at like $3k 
and go up from there.


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On 4/25/16 3:21 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Reminds me of the Wheel Horse I bought for our first house in 1984. 
At that time it was old (like 15-20 years!). Sold it for more than I 
paid for it.


I was amazed at parts availability. The mower deck had a bad bearing, 
so I went down to the Ace Hardware in our town, who was also the 
Wheel Horse dealer. I was sure they would turn me away due to the age 
of it.


Amazingly, not only were the bearings still available, they had them 
in stock! Seems that despite building a bazillion different mower 
decks, they used the same bearings in all of them.  I think they were 
like $7/each.


Good old American engineering

Dan


Too bad mtd has not heard of it!   The plant had a troybuilt mtd 
mower.  the let side hung lower than the right.   We had to do cutting 
and welding to get it to hang level.The neighbor has a crapsman 
mower (mtd) and it has the same problem.  Lawn looks like crap because 
one side cuts low and the other side cuts high.


Only way out of it is to buy a "commercial" mower or maybe a kubota or 
an "antique"  because everything else is made by mtd, cheap and 
crappy, but expensive to buy.


personally, I'd like one of the old IH red ones (not the cub cadet 
line) with the japanese Diesel.  (just a rebranded yanmar or some 
other japanese brand.)


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Re: [MBZ] OT Climate Change (was VW to offer to buy back nearly 500, 000 U.S. diesel cars)

Given the Earth has only existed for 6000 years your hypothesis lacks 
rigor.  The Truth can be found here http://creationmuseum.org/


I have also asked how these 
http://www.mountainphotography.com/images/xl/20071207-Torres-del-Paine-Panorama.jpg 
mountains, of which the tops were under 1km+ of ice 10k-12k years ago, 
came to be exposed, 2.5km+ of ice having gone somewhere, without the CO2 
belching SUVs running rampant in the world.  No one has been able to 
satisfactorily explain that.


--R

On 4/25/16 1:32 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

I saw somebody the other day call global warming "the end of the world" which 
is just dumb in that it insists if humanity dies the world is over. We've been on this 
planet just a little blip of geological time.Spent an hour educating Angie on our little 
blip of time. Apparently she'd forgotten that man and the dinosaurs are millions of years 
apart. She didn't watch as much PBS as I did as a kid...
-Curt

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Cc: Meade Dillon 
  Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 1:25 PM
  Subject: [MBZ] OT Climate Change (was VW to offer to buy back nearly 500, 000 
U.S. diesel cars)

Don't drink the kool-aid Karl, the Earth has never had a stable climate.

Ice ages, periods warmer than now, higher CO2 levels, they are all part of
the natural cycle, largely driven by solar activity.

Global Warming / Climate Change is pure power grab politics by the left.
Ever notice how all the solutions are "more government, more regulation,
less capitalism"?

Sea levels certainly will rise, and they certainly will fall, and there is
not a damn thing that all the humans on Earth can do about it.  Things
change, entropy happens, humans adapt.  You'd be far better off teaching
your kids how to take care of themselves and think for themselves.

Here's a link to a real physicist explaining in just a few pages how it is
impossible for CO2 to act like a greenhouse gas:

http://www.kusi.com/story/19600263/why-man-made-global-warming-is-ridiculous

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
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Yes of course and they are demonically fast cars until the batteries
overheat.

I guess my point is that if I felt that bad about a bit more nitrogen
oxides coming out of the vw tailpipe, I would never drive a 123 diesel. Or
a 606. Because they dwarf the NO emission of the vw. The vw exhaust smells
like flowers, at least at idle. It has no asthma inducing soot at all
either.

I have begun to think with more immediacy about the possibility of
catastrophic sea level rise within my children's lifetimes however, which
seems driven by CO2. A recent paper by James Hansen indicates this may in
fact be a possibility. Sandy only hit new York because the Atlantic was 3
degrees warmer than usual, which is predicted by their model. All this
could be happening very quickly, and it would likely destabilize
civilization. Of course it might not also, but if there is even a realistic
chance that it could, and the answer involves smaller cars, then fine with
me, as long as everyone else does it also, so I do not end up the only one
dead at the traffic light. Go karts are super fun. Teslas do very little
about this problem.

Link:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vhdkscnzrw5tpnf/acp-16-3761-2016.pdf?dl=0

And

https://youtu.be/JP-cRqCQRc8
On Apr 25, 2016 8:43 AM, "OK Don via Mercedes" 
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[MBZ] Where my 1962 300SE Came From

Interesting short on Colma, CA:

http://www.greatbigstory.com/stories/welcome-to-the-town-of-the-dead

It’s a cool place - I lived just south of it in San Bruno for a short time and 
visited it regularly.  Lots of history.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb Cars

2016-04-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes


yes

On 4/25/2016 5:44 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

So, move! I can't recommend it enough - we LOVE living in the rural area
just outside of town - especially being outside the city limits - they
can't tell us what to do. An added plus is room for all the gardening you
want, as big a garage/shop (hangar) as you want, etc. Cities suck.

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


LIVED, not lied.  I never lie.

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel

Re: [MBZ] blue efficiency

You have to say "Fox News" and "Bush" and "Cheney" whenever you mention 
Koch bros, like this:  Kochbrothersfoxnewsbushcheney


--R

On 4/25/16 8:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Sure you don't mean the Koch brothers lies?
On Apr 25, 2016 5:49 PM, "Curly McLain via Mercedes" 
wrote:


https://www.google.ca/?gws_rd=ssl#q=what+does+blue+efficiency+mean+on+mercedes

RB


So it means "We bought into the albore lies, OR we don't have the guts to
stand up to the liars"

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Re: [MBZ] blue efficiency

Sure you don't mean the Koch brothers lies?
On Apr 25, 2016 5:49 PM, "Curly McLain via Mercedes" 
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>> https://www.google.ca/?gws_rd=ssl#q=what+does+blue+efficiency+mean+on+mercedes
>>
>> RB
>>
>
> So it means "We bought into the albore lies, OR we don't have the guts to
> stand up to the liars"
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Win 7 and svchost

2016-04-25 Thread OK Don via Mercedes

Which seems to be about every third or fourth update on my Ubuntu machine.
The updates are a LOT more frequent than the monthly MS updates.

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 3:31 PM, fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > Curt wrote:
> >
> > Updates are difficult on a machine thats running
> > which is why the reboots are to be expected...
>
> I don't expect them.  The only time I need to reboot my Linux
> machine during updates is for a kernel change.
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Re: [MBZ] VW to offer to buy back nearly 500,000 U.S. diesel cars

2016-04-25 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes

Karl Wittnebel wrote:
> > I have begun to think with more immediacy about the possibility of
> > catastrophic sea level rise within my children's lifetimes however,
> > which seems driven by CO2. A recent paper by James Hansen indicates
> > this may in fact be a possibility.
> 
> PLEASE DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT JAMES HANSEN WRITES!!!
> He is a rabid AGW proponent whose motto appears to be, "Don't confuse me
> with the facts, my mind is made up!"
> I could go on at length about this, but I don't have time.
> Craig
~~
I agree. IMHO Freeman Dyson, a well respected physicist at Princeton U, has 
done a more logical analysis of this subject. Although his contention that CO-2 
generated by fossil fuels is unconditionally good for the worlds environment 
may be wrong, his analysis of the subject in general is accurate:
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
"Freeman Dyson is a physicist who has been teaching at the Institute for 
Advanced Study in Princeton since Albert Einstein was there. When Einstein died 
in 1955.

When the global-warming movement came along, a lot of people wondered why he 
didn’t come along with it. The reason he’s a skeptic is simple, the 89-year-old 
Dyson said when I phoned him.

“I think any good scientist ought to be a skeptic,” Dyson said.

…

Then in the late 1970s, he got involved with early research on climate change 
at the Institute for Energy Analysis in Oak Ridge, Tenn.

That research, which involved scientists from many disciplines, was based on 
experimentation. The scientists studied such questions as how atmospheric 
carbon dioxide interacts with plant life and the role of clouds in warming.

But that approach lost out to the computer-modeling approach favored by climate 
scientists. And that approach was flawed from the beginning, Dyson said.

“I just think they don’t understand the climate,” he said of climatologists. 
“Their computer models are full of fudge factors.”

A major fudge factor concerns the role of clouds. The greenhouse effect of 
carbon dioxide on its own is limited. To get to the apocalyptic projections 
trumpeted by Al Gore and company, the models have to include assumptions that 
CO-2 will cause clouds to form in a way that produces more warming.

“The models are extremely oversimplified,” he said. “They don’t represent the 
clouds in detail at all. They simply use a fudge factor to represent the 
clouds.”

Dyson said his skepticism about those computer models was borne out by recent 
reports of a study by Ed Hawkins of the University of Reading in Great Britain 
that showed global temperatures were flat between 2000 and 2010 — even though 
we humans poured record amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere during that decade.

That was vindication for a man who was termed “a civil heretic” in a New York 
Times Magazine article on his contrarian views. Dyson embraces that label, with 
its implication that what he opposes is a religious movement. So does his 
fellow Princeton physicist and fellow skeptic, William Happer.

“There are people who just need a cause that’s bigger than themselves,” said 
Happer. “Then they can feel virtuous and say other people are not virtuous.”

To show how uncivil this crowd can get, Happer e-mailed me an article about an 
Australian professor who proposes — quite seriously — the death penalty for 
heretics such as Dyson. As did Galileo, they can get a reprieve if they recant.

I hope that guy never gets to hear Dyson’s most heretical assertion: 
Atmospheric CO2 may actually be improving the environment.

“It’s certainly true that carbon dioxide is good for vegetation,” Dyson said. 
“About 15 percent of agricultural yields are due to CO2 we put in the 
atmosphere. From that point of view, it’s a real plus to burn coal and oil.”

In fact, there’s more solid evidence for the beneficial effects of CO2 than the 
negative effects, he said. So why does the public hear only one side of this 
debate? Because the media do an awful job of reporting it.

“They’re absolutely lousy,” he said of American journalists. “That’s true also 
in Europe. I don’t know why they’ve been brainwashed.”

I know why: They’re lazy. Instead of digging into the details, most journalists 
are content to repeat that mantra about “consensus” among climate scientists.

The problem, said Dyson, is that the consensus is based on those computer 
models. Computers are great for analyzing what happened in the past, he said, 
but not so good at figuring out what will happen in the future. But a lot of 
scientists have built their careers on them. Hence the hatred for dissenters.

Full story continues on this link:

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/04/05/freeman-dyson-speaks-out-about-climate-science-and-fudge/

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Re: [MBZ] 124 power steering hose

2016-04-25 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

Yep.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 power steering hose

Attaboy!

12mm hydraulic hose.  Just replaced both of mine for about $16 worth of 
bulk hose. Love those easy fixes, don’t you?

On Apr 25, 2016, at 5:21 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  
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'Found the clamped joint in the return hose and near the power steering 
pump leaking slightly yesterday.  Tightened the clamp slightly, but it 
still oozed.  'Went to general garage near here where the mechanic has 
helped me coupla times with air cond systems and got 'im to replace the 
hose ('bout 14 inches long) this afternoon.  'Took 'im 'bout 15 min. 
'Told 'im, "Gosh, it's only 30 years old - can't depend on anything any 
more."

Wilt
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb Cars

2016-04-25 Thread OK Don via Mercedes

So, move! I can't recommend it enough - we LOVE living in the rural area
just outside of town - especially being outside the city limits - they
can't tell us what to do. An added plus is room for all the gardening you
want, as big a garage/shop (hangar) as you want, etc. Cities suck.

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> LIVED, not lied.  I never lie.
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  >
> wrote:
>
> > Wish I lied in the rural outskirts .  I could  combine these into one
> nice
> > car.
> >
>
>

-- 
OK Don

*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank

Well, I started with the KISS method.  Went back to Bakery 101.  To 
clean the glass cases, (mostly Veg. grease/oil) clean it with ammonia 
water.


I rinsed it once with a qt. of ammonia.  The Ammonia alone turned 
very thick and yellow.This took off a lot of crud.  Then I added 
washing soda and dawn and water with the ammonia and washed with that.


Did the ammonia only again with the second quart.  It is now soaking. 
It turned yellow immediately again, but not as thick.


I am off to buy more ammonia.  The largest bottle in the store was a 
half gallon.  After the rinse with the second qt. of ammonia, the 
inside in the bottom half is white.  I am not sure what this is. 
Most of what is left is either rust or cad  plating.  The gunk in the 
filler neck and cap now is mostly a bonded combination of rust, FFAs 
and maybe some bonded rancid veg oil.  It seems pretty well stuck, so 
maybe it won't bother the Diesel fuel.


I may see if some bioD will clean it more tomorrow.  I found one 
Loves station on the list.  It says B6 to B20, so far from B99 or 
B100.   If someone wants to donate a gallon of 'shine to me, I can 
try making some BioD for tank cleaning.


Maybe the white stuff is oxydized/reacted cad plating?  If so , it 
may stay put in Diesel fuel.


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Re: [MBZ] blue efficiency


https://www.google.ca/?gws_rd=ssl#q=what+does+blue+efficiency+mean+on+mercedes

RB


So it means "We bought into the albore lies, OR we don't have the 
guts to stand up to the liars"


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Re: [MBZ] blue efficiency

2016-04-25 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

https://www.google.ca/?gws_rd=ssl#q=what+does+blue+efficiency+mean+on+mercedes

On 25/04/2016 4:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I have no idea. I have seen that badge on the bluetec diesels and it made sense
but I have also seen it on the gassers as well. I have also seen Hyundai gas
cars with blue something or other on them.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 25, 2016, at 3:54 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
wrote:

I was getting gas this aft and some guy pulls up the other side of the pump in an E350 coupe that
had "blue efficiency" badged on the side of the fender. I figured it was a diesel and
was gonna talk to the guy but he was putting petrol in it. I looked at the back, nothing on the
lid about diesel and I couldn't see a blue tank filler by the fuel hole that he was putting gas in,
so this had me puzzled. What is "blue efficiency"?

When he started up and drove off it klattered like a dizzel.

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Re: [MBZ] blue efficiency

2016-04-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

I have no idea. I have seen that badge on the bluetec diesels and it made sense 
but I have also seen it on the gassers as well. I have also seen Hyundai gas 
cars with blue something or other on them.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 25, 2016, at 3:54 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I was getting gas this aft and some guy pulls up the other side of the pump 
> in an E350 coupe that had "blue efficiency" badged on the side of the fender. 
>  I figured it was a diesel and was gonna talk to the guy but he was putting 
> petrol in it.  I looked at the back, nothing on the lid about diesel and I 
> couldn't see a blue tank filler by the fuel hole that he was putting gas in, 
> so this had me puzzled.  What is "blue efficiency"?
> 
> When he started up and drove off it klattered like a dizzel.
> 
> -- 
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Re: [MBZ] 124 power steering hose

Attaboy!

12mm hydraulic hose.  Just replaced both of mine for about $16 worth of bulk 
hose. Love those easy fixes, don’t you?


> On Apr 25, 2016, at 5:21 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 'Found the clamped joint in the return hose and near the power steering pump 
> leaking slightly yesterday.  Tightened the clamp slightly, but it still 
> oozed.  'Went to general garage near here where the mechanic has helped me 
> coupla times with air cond systems and got 'im to replace the hose ('bout 14 
> inches long) this afternoon.  'Took 'im 'bout 15 min.  'Told 'im, "Gosh, it's 
> only 30 years old - can't depend on anything any more."
> 
> Wilt
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[MBZ] 124 power steering hose

2016-04-25 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

'Found the clamped joint in the return hose and near the power steering pump 
leaking slightly yesterday.  Tightened the clamp slightly, but it still oozed.  
'Went to general garage near here where the mechanic has helped me coupla times 
with air cond systems and got 'im to replace the hose ('bout 14 inches long) 
this afternoon.  'Took 'im 'bout 15 min.  'Told 'im, "Gosh, it's only 30 years 
old - can't depend on anything any more."

Wilt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Win 7 and svchost

2016-04-25 Thread fmiser via Mercedes

> Curt wrote:
> 
> Updates are difficult on a machine thats running
> which is why the reboots are to be expected...

I don't expect them.  The only time I need to reboot my Linux
machine during updates is for a kernel change.

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[MBZ] blue efficiency

I was getting gas this aft and some guy pulls up the other side of the 
pump in an E350 coupe that had "blue efficiency" badged on the side of 
the fender.  I figured it was a diesel and was gonna talk to the guy but 
he was putting petrol in it.  I looked at the back, nothing on the lid 
about diesel and I couldn't see a blue tank filler by the fuel hole that 
he was putting gas in, so this had me puzzled.  What is "blue efficiency"?


When he started up and drove off it klattered like a dizzel.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Win 7 and svchost

2016-04-25 Thread clay via Mercedes

Bill Jr. and Sr. make all manner of noises about paying taxes, but that is only 
for the little guys who do not have a swarm of accountants and law firms to 
protect personal funds or business cash

clay



On Apr 25, 2016, at 7:21 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

> Here is something I wonder about.  Bill is a pretty liberal guy and supporter 
> of big gummint but also propounds all these rich dudes giving their money 
> away in foundations and such.  Shouldn't a big gummint liberal be more 
> inclined to just give all their money to the gummint as it knows best what to 
> do with it?  Is BG saying HE knows best what to do with his money?  How can 
> that be?
> 
> But I do admire (most of) his efforts to do good with his own money.
> 
> --BB
> 
> On 4/25/16 9:15 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> Bill Gates isn't that rich, he gives all his money away.
> 
> -- 
> --BB
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Lawnmower parts

Funny that you mention this, as a Sears/Crapsman lawn tractor I bought back in 
the early 2000s did the exact same thing.  Try as I might, I was never able to 
get that darned thing to cut level.

Dan


> On Apr 25, 2016, at 3:21 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>> 
> Too bad mtd has not heard of it!   The plant had a troybuilt mtd mower.  the 
> let side hung lower than the right.   We had to do cutting and welding to get 
> it to hang level.The neighbor has a crapsman mower (mtd) and it has the 
> same problem.  Lawn looks like crap because one side cuts low and the other 
> side cuts high.
> 
> Only way out of it is to buy a "commercial" mower or maybe a kubota or an 
> "antique"  because everything else is made by mtd, cheap and crappy, but 
> expensive to buy.
> 
> personally, I'd like one of the old IH red ones (not the cub cadet line) with 
> the japanese Diesel.  (just a rebranded yanmar or some other japanese brand.)
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Win 7 and svchost

2016-04-25 Thread fmiser via Mercedes

> Ed wrote:
> 
> Amusing side anecdote, my company *just* shut its last VAX
> down a few months ago. Those things were *tanks*

Ah!  You guys are early adopters in the migration from VAX,
huh?  *smiles*

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Re: [MBZ] You may only speak of ... operating systems ... [was: Re: New lister ]

2016-04-25 Thread fmiser via Mercedes

> > Ed Booher  wrote:
> >
> > Might want to try that move to 7 again. However, let me
> > ask, what problems were you having with 7 that caused you
> > to pull it out?
> 
> Gnome 3. It tries to make Linux look like windows. If I
> wanted to have something looking like windows, I would run
> windows.

I have switch most of the computers I manage to XFCE to avoid
Gnome 3.  However, there is a "classic" view available that
looks more like Gnome 2, or MATE - which is a maintained port
of Gnome 2 libraries.

The last couple computers I setup, I use lightdm (not kdm or
gdm) and XFCE.  Magic enough for ordinary users, customizable
enough I can get pretty much everything working as I want it.

Or, look at KDE.  It seems to be more in keeping with
traditional *nix than Gnome is now.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Win 7 and svchost

You sound like a raging socialist.  Are you feeling the Bern lately?

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 4:06 PM, clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> He has the world believing that crap.  He and melinda are holding onto
> buckets of the cash and have stored a bit of it in their mendacious
> foundation.  Bill is living the high life, and will keep doing so until the
> day he dies.  At least he was bright enough to not use some banana republic
> law firm attempt to hide his cash.  He used his family connections to make
> it look like the stuff was being used for good, but that is just how he has
> been able to off shore vast billions of loot.  At least Paul Allen is
> flashing his cash and building a real estate empire.  If he would use it to
> invest in a decent band of football players
>
> clay
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 25, 2016, at 6:15 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>
> > Bill Gates isn't that rich, he gives all his money away.
> > Win7 works pretty well. If you use it a lot and update it regular.
> Updates are difficult on a machine thats running which is why the reboots
> are to be expected...
> > -Curt
> >
> >  From: G Mann via Mercedes 
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Cc: G Mann 
> > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 1:50 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Win 7 and svchost
> >
> > I'm currently loading Windows 3.1 ... have been since 1987... as soon as
> it
> > finishes.. I plan to update to Windows 7...
> >
> > {Sarcasm off }
> >
> > "How can anything that works so poorly be the most popular software in
> the
> > world and make Bill Gates the worlds richest man?"
> >
> >
> >
> > <
> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail_term=icon
> >
> > Virus-free.
> > www.avast.com
> > <
> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail_term=link
> >
> > <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 9:02 PM, Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 23:35:11 -0400 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Attaboy.  I don't know why this works but it does (worked twice for me
> >>> too). I was almost ready to junk the computer when I found the thread
> >>> and tried it.  I guess we both owe Canadian Tech.
> >>
> >> Yes, we do. And I owe you, too, for telling me of it.
> >>
> >>
> >> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] your granny?

You need to be resigned to the fact that you were issued a set of less than
stellar genes.

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> Wish the lady who bought this new was my grandmother.
>
>
> http://news.boldride.com/2016/04/one-owner-mercedes-benz-gullwing-300sl-auction/102900/
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Re: [MBZ] Lawnmower parts

The red diesel was indeed a Cub Cadet, the 782D and it was actually a Kubota 
diesel engine.
I have direct experience with 3x MTD mowers, Dad has a, I think, Troybuilt I 
bought him at Lowes for Fathers day 4 or 5 years ago, at camp we have a 
Crapsman we bought 6 or 7 years ago and my grandmother's house (now owned by my 
aunt and uncle) has a Bolens. They are all more or less the same machine, all 
have a 17hp Briggs a 42" deck and all cost right around $999.Dad's, being the 
newest is most cheaply made, this is evidenced in the shifter. The gearing is 
similar to how a snowmobile works with a variable sized driven pulley. Dad's 
has a flimsy flipper where the rest have a more substantial lever, other than 
that all the same. These are basically the cheapest riding mowers available.
The one at camp has been BEAT. It maintains probably 10 acres on an 
intermittent basis. The only complaint I have is the deck should be bigger in 
line with the tractor. So much that we mow is quite tall and woody that stuff 
lays down and stays down until the mower has passed over it. My Snapper with 
the 30" single blade gets that stuff because of being longer but I have to 
creep along while the MTD can just hustle. I have broken the deck once, I hit a 
potato rake which is kind of a heavy pitchfork with lots of tines that was 
laying points down with no handle. I've mowed that exact spot many times but 
this time the rake found its way to the surface. It somehow broke the deck 
where the belt idler lives. I fixed it with two fender washers to spread the 
load over the break. I think that was 2 years ago.
My parent's only have 1/4 acre but dad leaves the mower outside all summer, 
it'll rot to pieces before anything else goes seriously wrong. My grandmother's 
house is 2 acres, my uncle (a pilot) is meticulous about maintenance, that 
mower should last forever...
Anyway 3x cheap MTD made mowers that together probably have 1000 hours or more 
with no complaints.
-Curt

  From: Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 3:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lawnmower parts
   
>Reminds me of the Wheel Horse I bought for our first house in 1984. 
>At that time it was old (like 15-20 years!). Sold it for more than I 
>paid for it.
>
>I was amazed at parts availability. The mower deck had a bad 
>bearing, so I went down to the Ace Hardware in our town, who was 
>also the Wheel Horse dealer. I was sure they would turn me away due 
>to the age of it.
>
>Amazingly, not only were the bearings still available, they had them 
>in stock! Seems that despite building a bazillion different mower 
>decks, they used the same bearings in all of them.  I think they 
>were like $7/each.
>
>Good old American engineering
>
>Dan

Too bad mtd has not heard of it!  The plant had a troybuilt mtd 
mower.  the let side hung lower than the right.  We had to do 
cutting and welding to get it to hang level.    The neighbor has a 
crapsman mower (mtd) and it has the same problem.  Lawn looks like 
crap because one side cuts low and the other side cuts high.

Only way out of it is to buy a "commercial" mower or maybe a kubota 
or an "antique"  because everything else is made by mtd, cheap and 
crappy, but expensive to buy.

personally, I'd like one of the old IH red ones (not the cub cadet 
line) with the japanese Diesel.  (just a rebranded yanmar or some 
other japanese brand.)

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Win 7 and svchost

2016-04-25 Thread clay via Mercedes

He has the world believing that crap.  He and melinda are holding onto buckets 
of the cash and have stored a bit of it in their mendacious foundation.  Bill 
is living the high life, and will keep doing so until the day he dies.  At 
least he was bright enough to not use some banana republic law firm attempt to 
hide his cash.  He used his family connections to make it look like the stuff 
was being used for good, but that is just how he has been able to off shore 
vast billions of loot.  At least Paul Allen is flashing his cash and building a 
real estate empire.  If he would use it to invest in a decent band of football 
players

clay

On Apr 25, 2016, at 6:15 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

> Bill Gates isn't that rich, he gives all his money away.
> Win7 works pretty well. If you use it a lot and update it regular. Updates 
> are difficult on a machine thats running which is why the reboots are to be 
> expected...
> -Curt
> 
>  From: G Mann via Mercedes 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List  
> Cc: G Mann 
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 1:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Win 7 and svchost
> 
> I'm currently loading Windows 3.1 ... have been since 1987... as soon as it
> finishes.. I plan to update to Windows 7...
> 
> {Sarcasm off }
> 
> "How can anything that works so poorly be the most popular software in the
> world and make Bill Gates the worlds richest man?"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Virus-free.
> www.avast.com
> 
> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> 
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 9:02 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 24 Apr 2016 23:35:11 -0400 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Attaboy.  I don't know why this works but it does (worked twice for me
>>> too). I was almost ready to junk the computer when I found the thread
>>> and tried it.  I guess we both owe Canadian Tech.
>> 
>> Yes, we do. And I owe you, too, for telling me of it.
>> 
>> 
>> Craig 

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Re: [MBZ] VW to offer to buy back nearly 500,000 U.S. diesel cars

2016-04-25 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

‎Curly sez:
>KISS. What happens when there is >more CO2? More green living 
>things grow, they USE the co2 >and EXHALE O2.

That is correct. In my youth I studied indoor growing techniques for certain 
leafy green plant materials. Additional CO2 is one of the tricks to accelerated 
growth. Seems to me, if plants are designed to respire more CO2 than is 
currently available in our atmosphere, at one time, perhaps in the distant 
past, there WAS more CO2 in the atmosphere. And, it most certainly was NOT a 
product of human activity.

 
Rick 
Just an observation, from an uneducated rube. 
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[MBZ] your granny?


Wish the lady who bought this new was my grandmother.

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Re: [MBZ] VW to offer to buy back nearly 500,000 U.S. diesel cars


On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 09:51:42 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
 wrote:


 I have begun to think with more immediacy about the possibility of
 catastrophic sea level rise within my children's lifetimes however,
 which seems driven by CO2. A recent paper by James Hansen indicates

 > this may in fact be a possibility.

PLEASE DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT JAMES HANSEN WRITES!!!

He is a rabid AGW proponent whose motto appears to be, "Don't confuse me
with the facts, my mind is made up!"

I could go on at length about this, but I don't have time.

Craig


+1   Craig is a real scientist.  Just because hansen worked for NASA 
does not make him a scientist nor and "expert"


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Re: [MBZ] You may only speak of ... operating systems ... [was: Re: New lister ]




I need to have the graphical login for my wife, who also uses the Linux
system (though not terminals and command lines). As a matter of fact, if
she were put in front of a Windows system, she would not know what to do.

Craig


Easy!  If you want to shut it off, you click "Start"   What could be 
more simple?  Or logical?  


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Re: [MBZ] Lawnmower parts

Reminds me of the Wheel Horse I bought for our first house in 1984. 
At that time it was old (like 15-20 years!). Sold it for more than I 
paid for it.


I was amazed at parts availability. The mower deck had a bad 
bearing, so I went down to the Ace Hardware in our town, who was 
also the Wheel Horse dealer. I was sure they would turn me away due 
to the age of it.


Amazingly, not only were the bearings still available, they had them 
in stock! Seems that despite building a bazillion different mower 
decks, they used the same bearings in all of them.  I think they 
were like $7/each.


Good old American engineering

Dan


Too bad mtd has not heard of it!   The plant had a troybuilt mtd 
mower.  the let side hung lower than the right.   We had to do 
cutting and welding to get it to hang level.The neighbor has a 
crapsman mower (mtd) and it has the same problem.  Lawn looks like 
crap because one side cuts low and the other side cuts high.


Only way out of it is to buy a "commercial" mower or maybe a kubota 
or an "antique"  because everything else is made by mtd, cheap and 
crappy, but expensive to buy.


personally, I'd like one of the old IH red ones (not the cub cadet 
line) with the japanese Diesel.  (just a rebranded yanmar or some 
other japanese brand.)


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Re: [MBZ] good fuel hose

I bought some of the Gates 400 PSI transmission cooler line.  It 
should be compatible with petroleum Dissel.  It is a grade or two up 
from what they sell as fuel line.

The first time I replaced it in the Dogde van, the OE stuff only 
lasted 7-8 yrs.  The rplancement trnas cooler hoses only lasted a yr 
or two.  The last time, it was the gates stuff, and they lasted 7-8 
yrs so far in transmission service.  (higher temps and pressures)

Anything Trident will be excellent stuff.  Various diameters and
applications.

http://www.amazon.com/Trident-TR38-Marine-Grade-Fuel/dp/B00D2C1ZO8
On Apr 25, 2016 8:14 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

 I think the short hoses without fittings are really bulk hose at the
 dealer. The EPC will state this by showing the quantity by the meter.

 Dan

 Sent from my iPad

 > On Apr 25, 2016, at 10:51 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 >
 > Most of the flaps fuel hose lasts only 5 years or so.  sometimes more,
 sometimes less.
 >
 > Has anyone found a source for good quality hose that may be locally
 available at major cities?  (Like Grainger)
 >
 > If that is not possible, is there a online source?
 >
 > Do the dealers stock bulk hose?  I doubt it.  Most dealer hoses are sold
 with fittings on one end for big money.
 >
 >
 > While I have the tank out, I need to replace the hoses.  Because the
 line out is a royal pain on a 124, i don't want to have to do it again in
 less than 20 years.
 >

 > > Is there any superhose out there?
 > >

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Re: [MBZ] VW to offer to buy back nearly 500,000 U.S. diesel cars

Bummer, pillary and the embedded islamists will "destabilize 
civilization" long before anything to do with CO2 does.They are 
well on the way now.   Massive invasions have already happened.


KISS.  What happens when there is  more CO2?   More green living 
things grow, they USE the co2 and EXHALE O2.  It has happened since 
the beginning, and will go on with or without pipples.


BTW, Hansen was wrong, has been discredited, and IS a wacko.


Yes of course and they are demonically fast cars until the batteries
overheat.

I guess my point is that if I felt that bad about a bit more nitrogen
oxides coming out of the vw tailpipe, I would never drive a 123 diesel. Or
a 606. Because they dwarf the NO emission of the vw. The vw exhaust smells
like flowers, at least at idle. It has no asthma inducing soot at all
either.

I have begun to think with more immediacy about the possibility of
catastrophic sea level rise within my children's lifetimes however, which
seems driven by CO2. A recent paper by James Hansen indicates this may in
fact be a possibility. Sandy only hit new York because the Atlantic was 3
degrees warmer than usual, which is predicted by their model. All this
could be happening very quickly, and it would likely destabilize
civilization. Of course it might not also, but if there is even a realistic
chance that it could, and the answer involves smaller cars, then fine with
me, as long as everyone else does it also, so I do not end up the only one
dead at the traffic light. Go karts are super fun. Teslas do very little
about this problem.

Link:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vhdkscnzrw5tpnf/acp-16-3761-2016.pdf?dl=0

And


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Re: [MBZ] You may only speak of ... operating systems ... [was: Re: New lister ]

On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 12:30:38 -0400 Tim Crone  wrote:

> I use fvwm and my reasonably default setup is not far from yours.

I'll have to look up fvwm and see what it's like.

> I always boot to runlevel 3, then startx manually.  I am no fan of the
> graphical login.

I need to have the graphical login for my wife, who also uses the Linux
system (though not terminals and command lines). As a matter of fact, if
she were put in front of a Windows system, she would not know what to do.

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] You may only speak of ... operating systems ... [was: Re: New lister ]

On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 12:55:07 -0400 Ed Booher via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I'm probably showing my age, but I start almost everything from
> terminal on Linux.

I, too, start things from the command line, like gqview and gimp and some
others.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] VW to offer to buy back nearly 500,000 U.S. diesel cars

On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 09:51:42 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I have begun to think with more immediacy about the possibility of
> catastrophic sea level rise within my children's lifetimes however,
> which seems driven by CO2. A recent paper by James Hansen indicates
> this may in fact be a possibility.

PLEASE DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT JAMES HANSEN WRITES!!!

He is a rabid AGW proponent whose motto appears to be, "Don't confuse me
with the facts, my mind is made up!"

I could go on at length about this, but I don't have time.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] good fuel hose

Anything Trident will be excellent stuff.  Various diameters and
applications.

http://www.amazon.com/Trident-TR38-Marine-Grade-Fuel/dp/B00D2C1ZO8
On Apr 25, 2016 8:14 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> I think the short hoses without fittings are really bulk hose at the
> dealer. The EPC will state this by showing the quantity by the meter.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Apr 25, 2016, at 10:51 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Most of the flaps fuel hose lasts only 5 years or so.  sometimes more,
> sometimes less.
> >
> > Has anyone found a source for good quality hose that may be locally
> available at major cities?  (Like Grainger)
> >
> > If that is not possible, is there a online source?
> >
> > Do the dealers stock bulk hose?  I doubt it.  Most dealer hoses are sold
> with fittings on one end for big money.
> >
> >
> > While I have the tank out, I need to replace the hoses.  Because the
> line out is a royal pain on a 124, i don't want to have to do it again in
> less than 20 years.
> >
> > Is there any superhose out there?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Climate Change (was VW to offer to buy back nearly 500, 000 U.S. diesel cars)

I saw somebody the other day call global warming "the end of the world" which 
is just dumb in that it insists if humanity dies the world is over. We've been 
on this planet just a little blip of geological time.Spent an hour educating 
Angie on our little blip of time. Apparently she'd forgotten that man and the 
dinosaurs are millions of years apart. She didn't watch as much PBS as I did as 
a kid...
-Curt

  From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Meade Dillon 
 Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 1:25 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] OT Climate Change (was VW to offer to buy back nearly 500, 000 
U.S. diesel cars)

Don't drink the kool-aid Karl, the Earth has never had a stable climate.
Ice ages, periods warmer than now, higher CO2 levels, they are all part of
the natural cycle, largely driven by solar activity.

Global Warming / Climate Change is pure power grab politics by the left.
Ever notice how all the solutions are "more government, more regulation,
less capitalism"?

Sea levels certainly will rise, and they certainly will fall, and there is
not a damn thing that all the humans on Earth can do about it.  Things
change, entropy happens, humans adapt.  You'd be far better off teaching
your kids how to take care of themselves and think for themselves.

Here's a link to a real physicist explaining in just a few pages how it is
impossible for CO2 to act like a greenhouse gas:

http://www.kusi.com/story/19600263/why-man-made-global-warming-is-ridiculous

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes of course and they are demonically fast cars until the batteries
> overheat.
>
> I guess my point is that if I felt that bad about a bit more nitrogen
> oxides coming out of the vw tailpipe, I would never drive a 123 diesel. Or
> a 606. Because they dwarf the NO emission of the vw. The vw exhaust smells
> like flowers, at least at idle. It has no asthma inducing soot at all
> either.
>
> I have begun to think with more immediacy about the possibility of
> catastrophic sea level rise within my children's lifetimes however, which
> seems driven by CO2. A recent paper by James Hansen indicates this may in
> fact be a possibility. Sandy only hit new York because the Atlantic was 3
> degrees warmer than usual, which is predicted by their model. All this
> could be happening very quickly, and it would likely destabilize
> civilization. Of course it might not also, but if there is even a realistic
> chance that it could, and the answer involves smaller cars, then fine with
> me, as long as everyone else does it also, so I do not end up the only one
> dead at the traffic light. Go karts are super fun. Teslas do very little
> about this problem.
>
> Link:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/vhdkscnzrw5tpnf/acp-16-3761-2016.pdf?dl=0
>
> And
>
> https://youtu.be/JP-cRqCQRc8
> On Apr 25, 2016 8:43 AM, "OK Don via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
>
>
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[MBZ] OT Climate Change (was VW to offer to buy back nearly 500, 000 U.S. diesel cars)

Don't drink the kool-aid Karl, the Earth has never had a stable climate.
Ice ages, periods warmer than now, higher CO2 levels, they are all part of
the natural cycle, largely driven by solar activity.

Global Warming / Climate Change is pure power grab politics by the left.
Ever notice how all the solutions are "more government, more regulation,
less capitalism"?

Sea levels certainly will rise, and they certainly will fall, and there is
not a damn thing that all the humans on Earth can do about it.  Things
change, entropy happens, humans adapt.  You'd be far better off teaching
your kids how to take care of themselves and think for themselves.

Here's a link to a real physicist explaining in just a few pages how it is
impossible for CO2 to act like a greenhouse gas:

http://www.kusi.com/story/19600263/why-man-made-global-warming-is-ridiculous

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes of course and they are demonically fast cars until the batteries
> overheat.
>
> I guess my point is that if I felt that bad about a bit more nitrogen
> oxides coming out of the vw tailpipe, I would never drive a 123 diesel. Or
> a 606. Because they dwarf the NO emission of the vw. The vw exhaust smells
> like flowers, at least at idle. It has no asthma inducing soot at all
> either.
>
> I have begun to think with more immediacy about the possibility of
> catastrophic sea level rise within my children's lifetimes however, which
> seems driven by CO2. A recent paper by James Hansen indicates this may in
> fact be a possibility. Sandy only hit new York because the Atlantic was 3
> degrees warmer than usual, which is predicted by their model. All this
> could be happening very quickly, and it would likely destabilize
> civilization. Of course it might not also, but if there is even a realistic
> chance that it could, and the answer involves smaller cars, then fine with
> me, as long as everyone else does it also, so I do not end up the only one
> dead at the traffic light. Go karts are super fun. Teslas do very little
> about this problem.
>
> Link:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/vhdkscnzrw5tpnf/acp-16-3761-2016.pdf?dl=0
>
> And
>
> https://youtu.be/JP-cRqCQRc8
> On Apr 25, 2016 8:43 AM, "OK Don via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Lawnmower parts

Reminds me of the Wheel Horse I bought for our first house in 1984. At that 
time it was old (like 15-20 years!). Sold it for more than I paid for it.

I was amazed at parts availability. The mower deck had a bad bearing, so I went 
down to the Ace Hardware in our town, who was also the Wheel Horse dealer. I 
was sure they would turn me away due to the age of it.

Amazingly, not only were the bearings still available, they had them in stock! 
Seems that despite building a bazillion different mower decks, they used the 
same bearings in all of them.  I think they were like $7/each.

Good old American engineering

Dan

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 25, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So much of what I have is old. The snowplow tractor here at the house is a 
> 1965 Cub Cadet 70, at camp we've got a 1967 Cub Cadet 72 for runabout/hauling 
> duty. The big tractor is a '52 Farmall Super M...
> When people say old and its younger than me I just smile.
> -Curt
> 
>  From: Mountain Man 
> To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
>  
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 11:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lawnmower parts
> 
> Curt wrote:
>> Can't buy quality these days huh? Too bad with such a new mower.
> 
> Ha!! New mower! - 20-years old.
> Most of these in commercial work these days are not belt drive to the
> wheels, I suspect - gear or hydraulic drive.  Perhaps we got a bad
> design because most of the other stuff seems to work.  15hp Kohler,
> blades, deck, wheels all work like they might make it to 30-years...
> Prolly not 51-years like your Snapper 308x.
> Thanks for guidance on seal and bearings.  We had the gearbox off in
> the winter, wife died, things stalled, we put it back together.
> Prolly shoulda... woulda... oh, well.  Will do what I can to find
> mower boneyard to hopefully find used replacement while we try the
> sleeve seal/bearing lookee-see.
> Thanks.
> mao
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank

2016-04-25 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes

Karl.
Not blown up but collapsed by vacuum via a plugged breather. Does that count?
Fred
Fortuna Favet Fortibus. (93 entry motto, RAF Locking '59-'62) Or as we used to 
say about getting back to base,fortune  favors the #40 bus.

Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.


From: Mercedes  on behalf of Karl Wittnebel via 
Mercedes 
Sent: 25 April 2016 07:35
To: mercedes@okiebenz com
Cc: Karl Wittnebel
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank

Fortune favors the bold.

Seriously though, has anyone here blown up a diesel tank? I would expect at
least one anecdote from this crowd.
On Apr 24, 2016 9:00 PM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 
wrote:

That's awesome, but may not work as intended for a fuel tank (Boom!)...
--
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] You may only speak of ... operating systems ... [was: Re: New lister ]

2016-04-25 Thread Ed Booher via Mercedes

I'm probably showing my age, but I start almost everything from terminal on
Linux. Back in the days of windowmaker / CDE, icons weren't absolute or
universal. Wave when you drive through Indiana, I'll wave back.

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 10:43:55 -0400 Ed Booher via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > You are using add-ons or options I am unfamiliar with, my vanilla RHEL 5
> > looks nothing like that. The Gnome bar I am used to has my windowspaces
> > in it and running processes and nothing else.
> >
> > EdB
>
> You can right click on the Gnome bar and add things to the bar,
> launchers, drawers with launchers, system monitor, clock as well as Show
> Desktop, main menus, logout, and lock screen buttons. I also have a
> launcher for a terminal window, a volume control, two instances of the
> Weather Report applet (one locally and one in Indiana where we are
> headed), and two instances of the Netspeed applet (one for our LAN and
> one for an X terminal which is directly connected on another NIC). The
> letter with the fancy S on it in the middle is what Sylpheed puts in the
> Notification Area when it's running.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] VW to offer to buy back nearly 500,000 U.S. diesel cars

Yes of course and they are demonically fast cars until the batteries
overheat.

I guess my point is that if I felt that bad about a bit more nitrogen
oxides coming out of the vw tailpipe, I would never drive a 123 diesel. Or
a 606. Because they dwarf the NO emission of the vw. The vw exhaust smells
like flowers, at least at idle. It has no asthma inducing soot at all
either.

I have begun to think with more immediacy about the possibility of
catastrophic sea level rise within my children's lifetimes however, which
seems driven by CO2. A recent paper by James Hansen indicates this may in
fact be a possibility. Sandy only hit new York because the Atlantic was 3
degrees warmer than usual, which is predicted by their model. All this
could be happening very quickly, and it would likely destabilize
civilization. Of course it might not also, but if there is even a realistic
chance that it could, and the answer involves smaller cars, then fine with
me, as long as everyone else does it also, so I do not end up the only one
dead at the traffic light. Go karts are super fun. Teslas do very little
about this problem.

Link:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vhdkscnzrw5tpnf/acp-16-3761-2016.pdf?dl=0

And

https://youtu.be/JP-cRqCQRc8
On Apr 25, 2016 8:43 AM, "OK Don via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> The difference is that the Teslas don't concentrate their nitrogen oxides,
> etc. in the cities - it's the "not in my back yard" effect. You've moved
> the source of pollution to lesser populated areas.
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes I get the impression we are headed toward radically different cars.
> > Teslas put as much carbon into the atmosphere as any other high economy
> > car. The only way to reduce that is to lower the weight of the vehicle,
> or
> > increase passengers per vehicle. I would actually ride a faired recumbent
> > trike to work and back daily were it not for fear of being crushed in
> what
> > would otherwise be  a fender bender in a regular car. But if all cars
> > weighed 100lb, the playing field would level out a lot. I see electric
> > bikes quite often around here, which have to be pretty efficient.
> > On Apr 25, 2016 6:28 AM, "Peter Frederick via Mercedes" <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> --
> OK Don
>
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
>
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Amazing covered pedal car - biking in any weather.

An animal with negative body fat.

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 10:57 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Finished watching a documentary on the Flix last night about a cross-USA
> bike race.  One guy started out on a recumbent with some sort of fabric
> shroud he could put around himself, mostly to keep rain off I guess.  It
> did not look too aerodynamic but they did not show him riding with it
> deployed.  I don't think he got too far.
>
> The riders were animals, doing 250 mi/day in some cases, riding with just
> a couple hours sleeping rough wrapped in a tarp, riding through the night,
> eating whatever they could grab to keep the calorie count up.  The winner
> was a Brit who was just a total animal.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb Cars

LIVED, not lied.  I never lie.

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:

> Wish I lied in the rural outskirts .  I could  combine these into one nice
> car.
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Craig via Mercedes  > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 09:19:16 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>
>> > http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/512691.html
>>
>> I like the method of window sealing shown in pictures 10, 11, and 12 ...
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb Cars

Wish I lied in the rural outskirts .  I could  combine these into one nice
car.

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> On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 09:19:16 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/512691.html
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> I like the method of window sealing shown in pictures 10, 11, and 12 ...
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Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank

2016-04-25 Thread WILTON via Mercedes


Yep.

Wilt

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Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank



I would think straight O2 would melt the thing into a puddle?

Dan

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 25, 2016, at 9:56 AM, Craig via Mercedes  
wrote:


On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 09:44:55 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:


I looked at the video this morning, but since it's 5:00 am I didn't
have the sound up. What were they spraying into the manifold with that
long tube?


The fellow said air. I wonder if straight oxygen would be a help ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] You may only speak of ... operating systems ... [was: Re: New lister ]

2016-04-25 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes

On Apr 25, 2016 9:46 AM, "Craig via Mercedes"  wrote:
>
> I logged onto the system using the means to log on the old way (I forget
> the exact terminology). I was able to get it fairly close to what I
> wanted. I later logged on with the "new" way and, instantly, my desktop
> was littered with icons depicting the contents of my home directory. That
> I do not want.

I use fvwm and my reasonably default setup is not far from yours.

I always boot to runlevel 3, then startx manually.  I am no fan of the
graphical login.

Best,
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Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank

Don't mess with straight o2 around open flame. Oil burns just fine with a
bunch of air blowing on it. The soot in the intake is soaked in oil from
the egr.
On Apr 25, 2016 9:11 AM, "Craig via Mercedes"  wrote:

> On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 11:15:34 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > I would think straight O2 would melt the thing into a puddle?
>
> I thought of that possibility.
>
>
> Craig
>
>
> > Dan
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > > On Apr 25, 2016, at 9:56 AM, Craig via Mercedes
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 09:44:55 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > >> I looked at the video this morning, but since it's 5:00 am I didn't
> > >> have the sound up. What were they spraying into the manifold with
> > >> that long tube?
> > >
> > > The fellow said air. I wonder if straight oxygen would be a help ...
> > >
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank

On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 11:15:34 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
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> I would think straight O2 would melt the thing into a puddle?

I thought of that possibility.


Craig


> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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> > On Apr 25, 2016, at 9:56 AM, Craig via Mercedes
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> > On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 09:44:55 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> >> I looked at the video this morning, but since it's 5:00 am I didn't
> >> have the sound up. What were they spraying into the manifold with
> >> that long tube?
> > 
> > The fellow said air. I wonder if straight oxygen would be a help ...
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] You may only speak of ... operating systems ... [was: Re: New lister ]

On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 10:43:55 -0400 Ed Booher via Mercedes
 wrote:

> You are using add-ons or options I am unfamiliar with, my vanilla RHEL 5
> looks nothing like that. The Gnome bar I am used to has my windowspaces
> in it and running processes and nothing else.
> 
> EdB

You can right click on the Gnome bar and add things to the bar,
launchers, drawers with launchers, system monitor, clock as well as Show
Desktop, main menus, logout, and lock screen buttons. I also have a
launcher for a terminal window, a volume control, two instances of the
Weather Report applet (one locally and one in Indiana where we are
headed), and two instances of the Netspeed applet (one for our LAN and
one for an X terminal which is directly connected on another NIC). The
letter with the fancy S on it in the middle is what Sylpheed puts in the
Notification Area when it's running.

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] You may only speak of ... operating systems ... [was: Re: New lister ]

EdB wrote:
> You are using add-ons or options I am unfamiliar with, my vanilla RHEL 5
> looks nothing like that. The Gnome bar I am used to has my windowspaces in
> it and running processes and nothing else.

My desktop looks much like yours - running Manjaro.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] VW to offer to buy back nearly 500,000 U.S. diesel cars

OK Don wrote:
> You've moved the source of pollution to lesser populated areas.

Yeah but...
Centralized production, looong distribution line losses - perhaps
these should be factored or better understood in our quest to lay
blame against NIMBY.
Perhaps more local and less centralized production, i.e. Andrew-style
(thanks, Andrew - we love your style, really) localized sun / wind
power with zero or small distribution and let our appliances die until
low voltage appliances can be INNOVATE - there's that archaic concept
again... innovation - HA!
mao

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Re: [MBZ] How Did it All Begin?

2016-04-25 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes


On 24/04/2016 11:21 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

As I looked (on the Facebook) at an adorbs picture of the birthday boy
sitting with the family at the symphony in Okieland, several questions ran
through my mind (none of which were the perennial Banned Dr. Fatty
question).

How did we all get our start diggin' MBs? Let's start a thread for that.
One paragraph explaining how the penchant began.

3, 2, 1, GO!

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Dr had a series of MB diesels. My father really admired them, mainly 
because he was always interested in cars that made good fuel mileage.
He never had one but  I guess his interest in them was passed on to me 
as I always wanted one too. I was reluctant to jump in because there are 
not all that many around here (Winnipeg) and thus basically none in the 
junk yards for parts. I assumed that if I picked the wrong one it would 
break me trying to keep it in repair. I happened onto a likely candidate 
by accident and bought it. So far, it has been good to me. I have 
repaired a few minor things but not had any real disasters so far. I 
have not put all that many miles on it (maybe 14K)  but have had it 
almost 11 years. It might well be my first, last and only MB as the 
newer ones really do not much appeal to me and the other models that 
interest me are getting to be old and high mileage too (SD or SDL?) so 
the risks once again may outweigh my need and desire for such. I have 
enjoyed the car but I did not buy it to be a garage queen and that is 
what it has mostly become so I sometimes think I should pass it on to 
someone who wants that sort of thing. The car is not perfect but, in my 
opinion, is pretty decent for a 40 year old vehicle. I have ridden in 
other MBs but the only other one that I have ever actually driven was 
one  of the ones that belonged to the Dr. It was a new 77 123 diesel 
wagon. A 5 cylinder 3 liter non-turbo version. My recollection is that 
it was a bit of a dog but had a nice heavy solid feel to it - moreso 
than my 115 300D, probably because it weighed a fair bit more than my car.


RB


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Re: [MBZ] Lawnmower parts

So much of what I have is old. The snowplow tractor here at the house is a 1965 
Cub Cadet 70, at camp we've got a 1967 Cub Cadet 72 for runabout/hauling duty. 
The big tractor is a '52 Farmall Super M...
When people say old and its younger than me I just smile.
-Curt

  From: Mountain Man 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 

 Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 11:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lawnmower parts

Curt wrote:
> Can't buy quality these days huh? Too bad with such a new mower.

Ha!! New mower! - 20-years old.
Most of these in commercial work these days are not belt drive to the
wheels, I suspect - gear or hydraulic drive.  Perhaps we got a bad
design because most of the other stuff seems to work.  15hp Kohler,
blades, deck, wheels all work like they might make it to 30-years...
Prolly not 51-years like your Snapper 308x.
Thanks for guidance on seal and bearings.  We had the gearbox off in
the winter, wife died, things stalled, we put it back together.
Prolly shoulda... woulda... oh, well.  Will do what I can to find
mower boneyard to hopefully find used replacement while we try the
sleeve seal/bearing lookee-see.
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] VW to offer to buy back nearly 500,000 U.S. diesel cars

2016-04-25 Thread OK Don via Mercedes

The difference is that the Teslas don't concentrate their nitrogen oxides,
etc. in the cities - it's the "not in my back yard" effect. You've moved
the source of pollution to lesser populated areas.

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes I get the impression we are headed toward radically different cars.
> Teslas put as much carbon into the atmosphere as any other high economy
> car. The only way to reduce that is to lower the weight of the vehicle, or
> increase passengers per vehicle. I would actually ride a faired recumbent
> trike to work and back daily were it not for fear of being crushed in what
> would otherwise be  a fender bender in a regular car. But if all cars
> weighed 100lb, the playing field would level out a lot. I see electric
> bikes quite often around here, which have to be pretty efficient.
> On Apr 25, 2016 6:28 AM, "Peter Frederick via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>
>
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our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Win 7 and svchost

Peter wrote:
> So much for innovation, eh?

Innovation? - please elaborate?
I think innovation probably ended with Wilbur/Orville, since the
Smithsonian had the idea (currently in vogue) that more power is
better.  Fuggedabout Less is More.
Nice summary of early Gates/Jobs.  These aspects weren't mentioned
explicitly in Triumph of the Nerds documentary.  That documentary was
interesting.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Happy Birthday, Kaleb!

2016-04-25 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes


On 24/04/2016 10:39 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Everybody should wish Kaleb a Happy Birthday!



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Sure.

Happy Birthday Kaleb.
How old are you?

RB

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Re: [MBZ] Dinero Gratis!

NPR's Planet Money recently had a show about the rise of the class action 
including an interview with the guy who invented it.
-Curt

  From: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
 Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 11:16 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] Dinero Gratis!

You know how you get all those letters about lawsuits and settlements 
over some corporate transgression then never see a dime from any of 
them?  Saturday a check shows up in the mail for $137 to do with a 
settlement with Farmers Insurance in Texas where I had car ins with 
them, at the least 8 years ago.  I have no idea what particular screwing 
this was about, but still..  free mowney!

I'm sure the lawyers walked away with $437mil...

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Re: [MBZ] Lawnmower parts

Curt wrote:
> Can't buy quality these days huh? Too bad with such a new mower.

Ha!! New mower! - 20-years old.
Most of these in commercial work these days are not belt drive to the
wheels, I suspect - gear or hydraulic drive.  Perhaps we got a bad
design because most of the other stuff seems to work.  15hp Kohler,
blades, deck, wheels all work like they might make it to 30-years...
Prolly not 51-years like your Snapper 308x.
Thanks for guidance on seal and bearings.  We had the gearbox off in
the winter, wife died, things stalled, we put it back together.
Prolly shoulda... woulda... oh, well.  Will do what I can to find
mower boneyard to hopefully find used replacement while we try the
sleeve seal/bearing lookee-see.
Thanks.
mao

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[MBZ] Dinero Gratis!

You know how you get all those letters about lawsuits and settlements 
over some corporate transgression then never see a dime from any of 
them?  Saturday a check shows up in the mail for $137 to do with a 
settlement with Farmers Insurance in Texas where I had car ins with 
them, at the least 8 years ago.  I have no idea what particular screwing 
this was about, but still..  free mowney!


I'm sure the lawyers walked away with $437mil...

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Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank

I would think straight O2 would melt the thing into a puddle?

Dan

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> 
> On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 09:44:55 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
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> 
>> I looked at the video this morning, but since it's 5:00 am I didn't
>> have the sound up. What were they spraying into the manifold with that
>> long tube?
> 
> The fellow said air. I wonder if straight oxygen would be a help ...
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] good fuel hose

I think the short hoses without fittings are really bulk hose at the dealer. 
The EPC will state this by showing the quantity by the meter.

Dan

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> On Apr 25, 2016, at 10:51 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Most of the flaps fuel hose lasts only 5 years or so.  sometimes more, 
> sometimes less.
> 
> Has anyone found a source for good quality hose that may be locally available 
> at major cities?  (Like Grainger)
> 
> If that is not possible, is there a online source?
> 
> Do the dealers stock bulk hose?  I doubt it.  Most dealer hoses are sold with 
> fittings on one end for big money.
> 
> 
> While I have the tank out, I need to replace the hoses.  Because the line out 
> is a royal pain on a 124, i don't want to have to do it again in less than 20 
> years.
> 
> Is there any superhose out there?
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Re: [MBZ] How Did it All Begin?

My father is the only person I know who can beat Donald Snook for rapid
turnover of used cars. Several Mercedes were among those, including two
diesel powered cars (a mid-60's 190D, and an '83 240D). I think I was
hooked when about 4 years old by that 190D.  Compared to the rest of the
crappy American cars we had, that Mercedes just exuded quality and luxury.
The only diesel station around (rural Wisconsin) was about a 15 minute
drive to the middle of nowhere, I remember we'd take several big plastic
tanks in the trunk and fill those so we had a small supply at home.  The
only mechanics who had a clue were diesel truck mechanics, they got quite a
kick out of that "Marcaydeez".  Unfortunately that car was just too
difficult to keep running during the winter, so it didn't stay around
long.  I'll bet that a good valve adjustment and use of Amzoil could have
cured that.  It probably also had a block heater that we didn't even know
about.

However, the MB diesel bug lay dormant for decades, until the last year of
the last century when I watched a 123 diesel wagon sell for just $200 at an
auction. The fever came on like a freight train, I had to have one.  Bought
an '85 grey market wagon (NA with five-speed manual) in 2000, found this
list not too much later.

Bought and sold:
'85 300TD
'84 190D

Daily drivers:
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Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank

You can be our test case.  If your VW survives, maybe I'll try cleaning out
one of my MB manifolds.

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Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Some people threaten that it will warp the casting but nobody has ever
> reported that actually happening...
> -Curt
>
>   From: Karl Wittnebel 
>  To: "mercedes@okiebenz com" ; Curt Raymond <
> curtlud...@yahoo.com>
>  Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 10:46 AM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank
>
> Which is far more effective, efficient, elegant and much much less messy
> than trying to clean it with a pressure washer, which I did not so long ago
> on the 123.In other cleaning news, zep degreaser gets old decomposed rats
> out of trash bins pretty well, along with the smell.On Apr 25, 2016 7:06
> AM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes"  wrote:
>
> Air...
> The EGR valve shoots sooty exhaust back into the intake during low power
> conditions which, if the car is primarily city driven, causes soot to build
> up in the intake manifold, restricting air flow. Eventually some cars will
> barely run.
> To fix it you heat it with a torch until the sooty, oily carbon catches
> fire, then hit it with air from the compressor, the air of course makes it
> burn much more efficiently...
> -Curt
>
>   From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Dan Penoff 
>  Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 9:44 AM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank
>
> I looked at the video this morning, but since it's 5:00 am I didn't have
> the sound up. What were they spraying into the manifold with that long tube?
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Apr 25, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I've been debating doing this on Angie's '05 Golf, the turbo doesn't
> spin up as it should...
> > -Curt
> >
> >  From: Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
> > To: "mercedes@okiebenz com" 
> > Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
> > Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 11:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank
> >
> >>
> >> Gentlemen, puh-leeze!
> >>
> >> https://youtu.be/xIijYgvxW0g
> >>
> >>
>
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Re: [MBZ] good fuel hose

Have you looked at McMaster-Carr?
I bought some viton hose for return line hose that lasted amazingly well.
-Curt

  From: Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 10:51 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] good fuel hose

Most of the flaps fuel hose lasts only 5 years or so.  sometimes 
more, sometimes less.

Has anyone found a source for good quality hose that may be locally 
available at major cities?  (Like Grainger)

If that is not possible, is there a online source?

Do the dealers stock bulk hose?  I doubt it.  Most dealer hoses are 
sold with fittings on one end for big money.

While I have the tank out, I need to replace the hoses.  Because the 
line out is a royal pain on a 124, i don't want to have to do it 
again in less than 20 years.

Is there any superhose out there?

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Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank

Some people threaten that it will warp the casting but nobody has ever reported 
that actually happening...
-Curt

  From: Karl Wittnebel 
 To: "mercedes@okiebenz com" ; Curt Raymond 
 
 Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 10:46 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank
   
Which is far more effective, efficient, elegant and much much less messy than 
trying to clean it with a pressure washer, which I did not so long ago on the 
123.In other cleaning news, zep degreaser gets old decomposed rats out of trash 
bins pretty well, along with the smell.On Apr 25, 2016 7:06 AM, "Curt Raymond 
via Mercedes"  wrote:

Air...
The EGR valve shoots sooty exhaust back into the intake during low power 
conditions which, if the car is primarily city driven, causes soot to build up 
in the intake manifold, restricting air flow. Eventually some cars will barely 
run.
To fix it you heat it with a torch until the sooty, oily carbon catches fire, 
then hit it with air from the compressor, the air of course makes it burn much 
more efficiently...
-Curt

      From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Dan Penoff 
 Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 9:44 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank

I looked at the video this morning, but since it's 5:00 am I didn't have the 
sound up. What were they spraying into the manifold with that long tube?

Dan

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 25, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> I've been debating doing this on Angie's '05 Golf, the turbo doesn't spin up 
> as it should...
> -Curt
>
>      From: Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
> To: "mercedes@okiebenz com" 
> Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 11:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank
>
>>
>> Gentlemen, puh-leeze!
>>
>> https://youtu.be/xIijYgvxW0g
>>
>> On Apr 24, 2016 7:07 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Might have kerosene though? Kerosene is also a good solvent.
>>> -Curt
>>>
>>>      From: Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>> Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
>>>  Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 8:48 PM
>>>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank
>>>
>>> Yeah, I have no ready source of BioD here in o'ol country.
>>>
>>>
 OK Don sez:  If bio-diesel is not readily available, scrape out a
 bit, and test various
 solvents against it. Acetone, charcoal lighter fluid, gasoline, MEK,
> etc.
 See what works with a smaller sample before tackling the whole tank.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Win 7 and svchost


Xenix, Warrior Operating System

--BB

On 4/25/16 10:51 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes wrote:

Another amusing anecdote that just came to memory, Microsoft *did* have a
UNIX. Who remembers Xenix? Now that is a blast from the past, haven't
thought about that in decades probably. An official license from AT of a
System 7 implementation that Microsoft ported to *8086* Mmmm ... slow.

EdB

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Re: [MBZ] good fuel hose


What's that stuff, Vigon, Viton, Vogon, something like that?

--R

On 4/25/16 10:51 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Most of the flaps fuel hose lasts only 5 years or so. sometimes more, 
sometimes less.


Has anyone found a source for good quality hose that may be locally 
available at major cities?  (Like Grainger)


If that is not possible, is there a online source?

Do the dealers stock bulk hose?  I doubt it.  Most dealer hoses are 
sold with fittings on one end for big money.



While I have the tank out, I need to replace the hoses.  Because the 
line out is a royal pain on a 124, i don't want to have to do it again 
in less than 20 years.


Is there any superhose out there?

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Re: [MBZ] Amazing covered pedal car - biking in any weather.

Finished watching a documentary on the Flix last night about a cross-USA 
bike race.  One guy started out on a recumbent with some sort of fabric 
shroud he could put around himself, mostly to keep rain off I guess.  It 
did not look too aerodynamic but they did not show him riding with it 
deployed.  I don't think he got too far.


The riders were animals, doing 250 mi/day in some cases, riding with 
just a couple hours sleeping rough wrapped in a tarp, riding through the 
night, eating whatever they could grab to keep the calorie count up.  
The winner was a Brit who was just a total animal.


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On 4/23/16 5:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

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Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank

Start cheap / easy, work your way up.  Someone reported success with Dawn
dish detergent, maybe give that a go first.

Here's a map of biodiesel stations:

http://biodiesel.org/using-biodiesel/finding-biodiesel/retail-locations/retail-map

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
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>
> No radiator shop here will touch it.  Called them all.
>
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[MBZ] good fuel hose

Most of the flaps fuel hose lasts only 5 years or so.  sometimes 
more, sometimes less.


Has anyone found a source for good quality hose that may be locally 
available at major cities?  (Like Grainger)


If that is not possible, is there a online source?

Do the dealers stock bulk hose?  I doubt it.  Most dealer hoses are 
sold with fittings on one end for big money.



While I have the tank out, I need to replace the hoses.  Because the 
line out is a royal pain on a 124, i don't want to have to do it 
again in less than 20 years.


Is there any superhose out there?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Win 7 and svchost

2016-04-25 Thread Ed Booher via Mercedes

Another amusing anecdote that just came to memory, Microsoft *did* have a
UNIX. Who remembers Xenix? Now that is a blast from the past, haven't
thought about that in decades probably. An official license from AT of a
System 7 implementation that Microsoft ported to *8086* Mmmm ... slow.

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Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank



No radiator shop here will touch it.  Called them all.

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Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank

Which is far more effective, efficient, elegant and much much less messy
than trying to clean it with a pressure washer, which I did not so long ago
on the 123.

In other cleaning news, zep degreaser gets old decomposed rats out of trash
bins pretty well, along with the smell.
On Apr 25, 2016 7:06 AM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Air...
> The EGR valve shoots sooty exhaust back into the intake during low power
> conditions which, if the car is primarily city driven, causes soot to build
> up in the intake manifold, restricting air flow. Eventually some cars will
> barely run.
> To fix it you heat it with a torch until the sooty, oily carbon catches
> fire, then hit it with air from the compressor, the air of course makes it
> burn much more efficiently...
> -Curt
>
>   From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Dan Penoff 
>  Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 9:44 AM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank
>
> I looked at the video this morning, but since it's 5:00 am I didn't have
> the sound up. What were they spraying into the manifold with that long tube?
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Apr 25, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I've been debating doing this on Angie's '05 Golf, the turbo doesn't
> spin up as it should...
> > -Curt
> >
> >  From: Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
> > To: "mercedes@okiebenz com" 
> > Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
> > Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 11:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank
> >
> >>
> >> Gentlemen, puh-leeze!
> >>
> >> https://youtu.be/xIijYgvxW0g
> >>
> >> On Apr 24, 2016 7:07 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Might have kerosene though? Kerosene is also a good solvent.
> >>> -Curt
> >>>
> >>>  From: Curly McLain via Mercedes 
> >>>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >>> Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
> >>>  Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 8:48 PM
> >>>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, I have no ready source of BioD here in o'ol country.
> >>>
> >>>
>  OK Don sez:  If bio-diesel is not readily available, scrape out a
>  bit, and test various
>  solvents against it. Acetone, charcoal lighter fluid, gasoline, MEK,
> > etc.
>  See what works with a smaller sample before tackling the whole tank.
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Re: [MBZ] VW to offer to buy back nearly 500,000 U.S. diesel cars

I don't remember if I've told this story here but...
Back when I had my $400 1983 240D I was late for a flight and noticed one 
section of the parking garage at the airport was for "green vehicles". I had a 
piece of paper and with a sharpie I wrote "BIO" and stuck it on the "Diesel" 
badge on the back of the car when I parked in the diesel area. Never ever 
locked the doors on that car so it sat in the green parking section for 2 weeks 
with the doors unlocked.
Actually one time I left it in Logan for I think 3 nights with the doors 
unlocked and the key in the ignition. I'd been listening to the radio and 
forgot my keys...
-Curt

  From: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
 Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 10:26 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW to offer to buy back nearly 500,000 U.S. diesel cars
   
Correct.  But people who bought them to be "green" have had their 
feelings hurt!

I actually saw an Audi diesel SUV in a parking lot right about the time 
this story came out, it had a factory sticker in the back glass that had 
a flower or something and "Green Diesel" on it.  I wonder if they are 
now wilted.

--BB

On 4/25/16 9:14 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> Somebody on NPR actually said that the entire fleet of VW "cheater diesels" 
> didn't even amount to one coal fired power plant and then difference in what 
> they did vs what they said they'd do was "statistically insignificant".
> This was NPR mind you, I'm sure that person was taken out back and given a 
> severe talking to.
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] VW to offer to buy back nearly 500,000 U.S. diesel cars

Correct.  But people who bought them to be "green" have had their 
feelings hurt!


I actually saw an Audi diesel SUV in a parking lot right about the time 
this story came out, it had a factory sticker in the back glass that had 
a flower or something and "Green Diesel" on it.  I wonder if they are 
now wilted.


--BB

On 4/25/16 9:14 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Somebody on NPR actually said that the entire fleet of VW "cheater diesels" didn't even 
amount to one coal fired power plant and then difference in what they did vs what they said they'd 
do was "statistically insignificant".
This was NPR mind you, I'm sure that person was taken out back and given a 
severe talking to.
-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Win 7 and svchost

Here is something I wonder about.  Bill is a pretty liberal guy and 
supporter of big gummint but also propounds all these rich dudes giving 
their money away in foundations and such.  Shouldn't a big gummint 
liberal be more inclined to just give all their money to the gummint as 
it knows best what to do with it?  Is BG saying HE knows best what to do 
with his money?  How can that be?


But I do admire (most of) his efforts to do good with his own money.

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Bill Gates isn't that rich, he gives all his money away.


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Re: [MBZ] Project Car?


See these cars look good bagged

Yo.

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http://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/5528578263.html

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Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank

Air...
The EGR valve shoots sooty exhaust back into the intake during low power 
conditions which, if the car is primarily city driven, causes soot to build up 
in the intake manifold, restricting air flow. Eventually some cars will barely 
run.
To fix it you heat it with a torch until the sooty, oily carbon catches fire, 
then hit it with air from the compressor, the air of course makes it burn much 
more efficiently...
-Curt

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Dan Penoff 
 Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 9:44 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank
   
I looked at the video this morning, but since it's 5:00 am I didn't have the 
sound up. What were they spraying into the manifold with that long tube?

Dan

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 25, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've been debating doing this on Angie's '05 Golf, the turbo doesn't spin up 
> as it should...
> -Curt
> 
>      From: Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
> To: "mercedes@okiebenz com"  
> Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 11:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank
> 
>> 
>> Gentlemen, puh-leeze!
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/xIijYgvxW0g
>> 
>> On Apr 24, 2016 7:07 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Might have kerosene though? Kerosene is also a good solvent.
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>>      From: Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>> Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
>>>  Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 8:48 PM
>>>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank
>>> 
>>> Yeah, I have no ready source of BioD here in o'ol country.
>>> 
>>> 
 OK Don sez:  If bio-diesel is not readily available, scrape out a
 bit, and test various
 solvents against it. Acetone, charcoal lighter fluid, gasoline, MEK,
> etc.
 See what works with a smaller sample before tackling the whole tank.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank

On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 09:44:55 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
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> I looked at the video this morning, but since it's 5:00 am I didn't
> have the sound up. What were they spraying into the manifold with that
> long tube?

The fellow said air. I wonder if straight oxygen would be a help ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Win 7 and svchost

On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 13:15:28 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Updates are difficult on a machine thats running which is why the
> reboots are to be expected...

The only thing for which Linux needs a reboot is updating the kernel.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] VW to offer to buy back nearly 500,000 U.S. diesel cars

Yes I get the impression we are headed toward radically different cars.
Teslas put as much carbon into the atmosphere as any other high economy
car. The only way to reduce that is to lower the weight of the vehicle, or
increase passengers per vehicle. I would actually ride a faired recumbent
trike to work and back daily were it not for fear of being crushed in what
would otherwise be  a fender bender in a regular car. But if all cars
weighed 100lb, the playing field would level out a lot. I see electric
bikes quite often around here, which have to be pretty efficient.
On Apr 25, 2016 6:28 AM, "Peter Frederick via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> High temperature and high oxygen conditions produce nitrogen oxides, and
> coal fired power plants are well known for producing large amounts of
> sulfur and nitrogen oxides -- remember acid rain?  Cured by using scrubbers
> to remove this stuff from the air.  Sadly, the majority of coal fired power
> plants are STILL not scrubber equipped more than 30 years later.
>
> The worst source of nitrogen oxides is jet engines, but they are not at
> ground level and hence do not contribute to the lung problems and smog that
> ground level sources do.
>
> It's easier to reduce nitrogen oxide emissions from gasoline engines
> because they have such low charge density most of the time, and EGR will
> take care of them at higher charge density.
>
> Part of the problem is that EPA rules may be almost impossible to achieve
> in the real world, and the real solution to automotive air pollution is to
> re-design cities to provide useable transit other than cars.
>
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Win 7 and svchost

2016-04-25 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes

Mainframes do many things better than PCs, especially handle large  
databases with large numbers of users.  Something about thousands of  
ports rather than six


Very expensive, and serious overkill for routine office stuff, which  
is why the PC now sits on everyone's desk instead of a terminal.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank

I looked at the video this morning, but since it's 5:00 am I didn't have the 
sound up. What were they spraying into the manifold with that long tube?

Dan

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> On Apr 25, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've been debating doing this on Angie's '05 Golf, the turbo doesn't spin up 
> as it should...
> -Curt
> 
>  From: Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
> To: "mercedes@okiebenz com"  
> Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 11:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank
> 
>> 
>> Gentlemen, puh-leeze!
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/xIijYgvxW0g
>> 
>> On Apr 24, 2016 7:07 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Might have kerosene though? Kerosene is also a good solvent.
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>>   From: Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>>>   To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>> Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
>>>   Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 8:48 PM
>>>   Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank
>>> 
>>> Yeah, I have no ready source of BioD here in o'ol country.
>>> 
>>> 
 OK Don sez:  If bio-diesel is not readily available, scrape out a
 bit, and test various
 solvents against it. Acetone, charcoal lighter fluid, gasoline, MEK,
> etc.
 See what works with a smaller sample before tackling the whole tank.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Win 7 and svchost

2016-04-25 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes


Yes, VMS, not Unix.  Also, Billy knew about QDOS before he
sold it.  But he hadn't bought it yet.  It was a clean
rewrite, so far as I know.  Hey, CP/M was what, maybe
5KB of actual code?  All I know is that I went to the
computer store with money in my pocket, ready to buy
the new IBM PC, and left without one, the 'new' thing
was such a massive disappointment.  It was almost
entirely an Apple II, with a different 8-bit CPU in
it.  Right down to the cassette tape interface and
the same paltry RAM limitations.  And, it had a noisy
fan and _many_ more parts, didn't run any faster, and
didn't have any new features.  What a crock.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Kleb Cars

On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 09:19:16 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
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> http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/512691.html

I like the method of window sealing shown in pictures 10, 11, and 12 ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] VW to offer to buy back nearly 500,000 U.S. diesel cars

2016-04-25 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes

High temperature and high oxygen conditions produce nitrogen oxides,  
and coal fired power plants are well known for producing large amounts  
of sulfur and nitrogen oxides -- remember acid rain?  Cured by using  
scrubbers to remove this stuff from the air.  Sadly, the majority of  
coal fired power plants are STILL not scrubber equipped more than 30  
years later.


The worst source of nitrogen oxides is jet engines, but they are not  
at ground level and hence do not contribute to the lung problems and  
smog that ground level sources do.


It's easier to reduce nitrogen oxide emissions from gasoline engines  
because they have such low charge density most of the time, and EGR  
will take care of them at higher charge density.


Part of the problem is that EPA rules may be almost impossible to  
achieve in the real world, and the real solution to automotive air  
pollution is to re-design cities to provide useable transit other than  
cars.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Win 7 and svchost

2016-04-25 Thread Ed Booher via Mercedes

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Ed Booher  wrote:

> The entire system is actually designed around Cutler's *previous*
> operating system, Digital VMS and is far more like VAX than UNIX.
>

Amusing side anecdote, my company *just* shut its last VAX down a few
months ago. Those things were *tanks*

EdB

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Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel tank