Re: [MBZ] Sticking my neck out - an Antipodean perspective

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I’ve always wondered how cars can hang on upside down on the bottom of the 
planet. Like do you have really good tires there. I know you drive on the wrong 
side of the road maybe that has something to do with it, you can hang on 
better. 

--FlaT Earther
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> On May 15, 2020, at 7:09 PM, Euan Kennedy via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Occasionally I can offer something worthwhile in return.

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Re: [MBZ] Sticking my neck out - an Antipodean perspective

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Euan wrote:

> Hi all, from the Southern Colonies 

Always a pleasure to hear from you.  Glad you can join in now and then.

> Were I to offer a suggestion, then how about creating sublists:
> one for technical stuff, one for cars and prices, and one for
> general commentary on the American Way of Life? Is that feasible?

Feasible?  Yes!   But it has been tried before - here and other
places.  There is sort of a "critical mass".  That is, if there
isn't a moderate amount of traffic it just dies out.

Maybe it would work this time...

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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT: The Bug was Re: Sticking my neck out

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Nope - fake news.
https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/hiv-prevention/potential-future-options/hiv-vaccines



On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:56 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yet it's called the AIDS vaccine.  Why?
>
> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 9:08 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > This brings up a good point that a lot of people aren’t considering -
> what
> > if we can’t make a vaccine? Look at a disease like AIDS/HIV. 40 years now
> > and we really have no absolute cure. Fortunately we have ways of treating
> > it, but there’s no vaccine.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > On May 15, 2020, at 8:57 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > There's a company in CA that claims it has a 100% effective antibody,
> > and is ramping up a culture production. The procedure for culturing has
> > been around for nearly 20 years. They make GMO yeast to produce human
> > antibodies. So it is a preventive and a cure, but not a vaccine. I'm
> hoping
> > for effective treatment, a vaccine may never come.
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> >
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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

“Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
Von Braun
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2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The Bug was Re: Sticking my neck out

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 15 May 2020 20:08:20 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:

> That having been said, the planet is over populated ...

Actually, no, it is not.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The Bug was Re: Sticking my neck out

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Yet Ford has way lower accident rates.  It's a proven fact.*

*Driveway driving only

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:14 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Thanks,Rick. All true
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Fri, May 15, 2020, 10:09 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > And actually minimizing risk is partially why most of us drive Mercedes.
> > Peter was in a crash that he was able to walk away from, because he
> > minimized his risks by driving a Mercedes. Wilton was in a very similar
> > crash, and was able to walk away because he was driving a Mercedes. Dr.
> > Booth was drawn to Mercedes because his wife was killed in a car
> accident.
> > His research drew him to the conclusion that Mercedes Benz automobiles
> were
> > the safest autos on the road.
> >
> > There. It's on topic now.
> >
> > Rick
> >
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT: The Bug was Re: Sticking my neck out

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Yet it's called the AIDS vaccine.  Why?

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 9:08 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> This brings up a good point that a lot of people aren’t considering - what
> if we can’t make a vaccine? Look at a disease like AIDS/HIV. 40 years now
> and we really have no absolute cure. Fortunately we have ways of treating
> it, but there’s no vaccine.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 15, 2020, at 8:57 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > There's a company in CA that claims it has a 100% effective antibody,
> and is ramping up a culture production. The procedure for culturing has
> been around for nearly 20 years. They make GMO yeast to produce human
> antibodies. So it is a preventive and a cure, but not a vaccine. I'm hoping
> for effective treatment, a vaccine may never come.
> >
> > Greg
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The Bug was Re: Sticking my neck out

[Clay via Mercedes]

No news on the AIDS vaccine yet.  I do recall all the misinformation coming 
from the “Authorities” and very expensive but non-functional treatments being 
promulgated by the learned agency puppets.  For a vivid example just watch 
“Dallas Buyer’s Club” movie.  This “new” situation is the same shuffling dance 
to the same off key tune.

clay 

I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.



> On May 15, 2020, at 4:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Karl,
> Does anybody honestly believe the numbers coming out of China? I find them so 
> low as to be a joke...
> I'm with Rick, we're all going to get this eventually, it's essentially a 
> new, much worse, flu. Get used to the idea now. This who are waiting for a 
> vaccine ignore the fact that the record for a vaccine release is 4 years.


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Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft

[Clay via Mercedes]

I used to work at a bespoke ice creamery about 40 years ago.  NO, not 31 
flavors.  I produced five gallon batches of fancy fluff, 20 gallons each day.  
When the pretty young thing at the counter had break, I was the scoop guy.  The 
metal scoops lived in a warm water bath.  We were driven out of business by a 
place with a made up skandahoovian name.


clay 

I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.



> On May 14, 2020, at 6:06 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 8:58 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> No, this is the age of instant gratification.  Wait ten minutes for ice
>> cream?  OK boomer.  ;)
>> 
> 
> 1) Get metal ice cream scoop.
> 2) Put scoop into hot water a minute or two before scooping.
> 3) Scoop ice cream.  If scoop gets cold, reheat in hot water.
> 
> -MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft

[Clay via Mercedes]

I do not know the physics, just that for the past 25 years the stuff lived in 
the door shelf.  New fridge at the time.  May coincide with the reduction in 
size of the container from a REAL half gallon to the current fluff.  Also 
change to a more aerated formulation?  The freezer my mother has keeps her 
boxes of gelato rock solid.  She puts her confection in the rear of the main 
body.


clay 

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> On May 14, 2020, at 5:01 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> What Clay said. Keep it in the door. My freezer actually has/had a 
> compartment in the door to keep ice cream less cold.
> 
> Rick
> 
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT: The Bug was Re: Sticking my neck out

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Agree on safety, and on topic: My son was driving my 84 300D when T-boned by a 
vintage full-size USA wagon. Benz totaled, boy had not a scratch.

Greg
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The Bug was Re: Sticking my neck out

And actually minimizing risk is partially why most of us drive Mercedes. Peter 
was in a crash that he was able to walk away from, because he minimized his 
risks by driving a Mercedes. Wilton was in a very similar crash, and was able 
to walk away because he was driving a Mercedes. Dr. Booth was drawn to Mercedes 
because his wife was killed in a car accident. His research drew him to the 
conclusion that Mercedes Benz automobiles were the safest autos on the road. 

There. It's on topic now. 

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] OT: The Bug was Re: Sticking my neck out

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Thanks,Rick. All true

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Fri, May 15, 2020, 10:09 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> And actually minimizing risk is partially why most of us drive Mercedes.
> Peter was in a crash that he was able to walk away from, because he
> minimized his risks by driving a Mercedes. Wilton was in a very similar
> crash, and was able to walk away because he was driving a Mercedes. Dr.
> Booth was drawn to Mercedes because his wife was killed in a car accident.
> His research drew him to the conclusion that Mercedes Benz automobiles were
> the safest autos on the road.
>
> There. It's on topic now.
>
> Rick
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The Bug was Re: Sticking my neck out

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

And actually minimizing risk is partially why most of us drive Mercedes. Peter 
was in a crash that he was able to walk away from, because he minimized his 
risks by driving a Mercedes. Wilton was in a very similar crash, and was able 
to walk away because he was driving a Mercedes. Dr. Booth was drawn to Mercedes 
because his wife was killed in a car accident. His research drew him to the 
conclusion that Mercedes Benz automobiles were the safest autos on the road. 

There. It's on topic now. 

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] OT: The Bug was Re: Sticking my neck out

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Curt says:

>I'm with Rick, we're all going to get this eventually

I don't think everyone is going to get it. Statistics say herd immunity comes 
at 65-70% infection rates. That said, take all the precautions you can. I look 
at it like this. If Mike Tyson called you on the phone and said "I'm coming to 
you this fall, and I'm going to punch you in the head twice, first with a left 
jab, then with a right hook. There is little to nothing you can do about it." I 
would find the best boxing trainer I could find, and I would begin training to 
defend myself against that combination of punches immediately. We have facts, 
and hard evidence that this is a mean virus. We know it is not going away.  We 
know the comorbidities. We know we can safely lose two pounds of fat a week. We 
know through healthy eating habits and an exercise regime we can reduce 
triglycerides, cholesterol, hypertension, and perhaps alleviate type 2 
diabetes. It's about minimizing the risks. 

If exercise was a pill, with the benefits it provides, it would probably cost 
$15,000 a month. 

Rick
Who was and is definitely NOT a jock. 


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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT: The Bug was Re: Sticking my neck out

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

This brings up a good point that a lot of people aren’t considering - what if 
we can’t make a vaccine? Look at a disease like AIDS/HIV. 40 years now and we 
really have no absolute cure. Fortunately we have ways of treating it, but 
there’s no vaccine.

-D

> On May 15, 2020, at 8:57 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> There's a company in CA that claims it has a 100% effective antibody, and is 
> ramping up a culture production. The procedure for culturing has been around 
> for nearly 20 years. They make GMO yeast to produce human antibodies. So it 
> is a preventive and a cure, but not a vaccine. I'm hoping for effective 
> treatment, a vaccine may never come.
> 
> Greg
> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT: The Bug was Re: Sticking my neck out

[OK Don via Mercedes]

From what I understand (which isn't much), Covid-19 is in the same virus
family as the common cold, while the flu is an influenza virus - a totally
different family. No one has been able to develop a vaccine for the cold,
but we do have marginally effective vaccines for the flu.
If my assumptions are correct, expecting a vaccine for Covid-19 to be
effective is an exercise in wishful thinking that will lead no where.

I think that Karl is correct in that if we contain this virus via
isolation so it can't spread beyond those it has infected already, we can
stop it in it's tracks and all of us don't have to get it.
However, given that a lot of Americans don't trust and won't listen to
those who know about this stuff, from the President on down, there is no
hope of stopping it. We will all get it, many of us will be very sick and
permanently debilitated by it, and too many will die from it. That having
been said, the planet is over populated ...

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 7:50 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Karl,
> Does anybody honestly believe the numbers coming out of China? I find them
> so low as to be a joke...
> I'm with Rick, we're all going to get this eventually, it's essentially a
> new, much worse, flu. Get used to the idea now. This who are waiting for a
> vaccine ignore the fact that the record for a vaccine release is 4 years.
> Curt
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 7:52 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   Rick I won't tell either of them that you
> said they were fat or unhealthy
> :-) Picture very fit, active, healthy moms in their 40s and you will have
> the idea.
>
> My point is exactly that: many people (including me) want to minimize this
> thing by thinking that all the people getting sick are somehow not like
> them, but this is not the case. Statistically sure most young healthy
> people are not going to die from it. But it still makes normal, otherwise
> healthy, middle age people very sick in a way that influenza does not, over
> a much longer interval measured in weeks rather than days. I am talking
> about not being able to speak in full sentences for weeks, being short of
> breath talking on the phone. Having pain in your lungs when you breathe.
> For weeks.
>
> I think the flu comparison article I posted speaks to this. Covid deaths
> this year are multiples of influenza deaths even in a bad year.
>
> Exercise is always good, as is eating right, not smoking and not being fat.
>
> I am not trying to alarm anyone, or advocate for any particular response,
> other than to rank it higher on the list of threats in your thinking than
> the flu, take appropriate precautions, etc. Saying we are all going to get
> it is rather defeatist when it is clearly possible to suppress to virtually
> zero e.g. Taiwan, Hong Kong, China, Singapore, S. Korea. I dont think any
> of us want to give it to our parents or elderly friends. Wash hands, wear a
> mask if you are close to vulnerable people for more than 30 minutes in a
> poorly ventilated space, these are sensible precautions that don't cost
> much. Maybe we will start to track it better so we dont end up shutting the
> whole economy down.
>
> Ok maybe I was silly to bring it up, especially for Euan in New Zealand
> where they dont even have any of this disease.
>
> Maybe the meth jokes arent so bad after all.
>
> As you were.
>
> On Fri, May 15, 2020, 2:28 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Karl inquires:
> >
> > >How many people do you know who have died of the flu?
> >
> > With or of? A few over the years with, none of.
> > I do have know someone who was very close to death from H1N1 in 2009.
> > From, not with. She is still not 100% a decade later. That is/was a VERY
> > nasty virus that directly killed a lot of otherwise healthy people.
> >
> > >The mom of my 3rd grader's classmate has been in >the hospital for about
> > 6 weeks and a colleague of >mine at the hospital was out of work for 5
> > weeks >and still cant breathe well when she lies flat. 40yo RN
> >
> > Estimated BMI over 30? Other comorbidities?
> >
> > Sorry folks, if you are fat, out of shape, or have other health issues,
> > address what you can. The curve has been flattened, but the area under
> the
> > curve has not. Meaning whoever was going to get this virus is still going
> > to get it, just later this year or next. Meaning we will have to fight
> off
> > not only Covid 19, but influenza a or influenza b, AND Covid 19
> > concomitantly. So, with that said,
> >
> > 1. If you smoke, quit. Now. I watched my mom and my brother pass from
> lung
> > cancer. I suspect death from this is similar.
> > 2. If you have a BMI over 30, lose fat. Now. Diet is key. Stop putting
> > garbage in your pie hole.
> > 3. If you can tolerate hard aerobic exercise, do it every day. (Increase
> > your VO2 max) This is a pulmonary disease. Increasing pulmonary function
> > 

[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: OT: The Bug was Re: Sticking my neck out

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

There's a company in CA that claims it has a 100% effective antibody, and is 
ramping up a culture production. The procedure for culturing has been around 
for nearly 20 years. They make GMO yeast to produce human antibodies. So it is 
a preventive and a cure, but not a vaccine. I'm hoping for effective treatment, 
a vaccine may never come.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond 
via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 5:49 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List; Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Curt Raymond
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The Bug was Re: Sticking my neck out

Karl,
Does anybody honestly believe the numbers coming out of China? I find them so 
low as to be a joke...
I'm with Rick, we're all going to get this eventually, it's essentially a new, 
much worse, flu. Get used to the idea now. This who are waiting for a vaccine 
ignore the fact that the record for a vaccine release is 4 years.
Curt

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 7:52 PM, Karl Wittnebel via 
Mercedes wrote:   Rick I won't tell either of them that 
you said they were fat or unhealthy
:-) Picture very fit, active, healthy moms in their 40s and you will have
the idea.

My point is exactly that: many people (including me) want to minimize this
thing by thinking that all the people getting sick are somehow not like
them, but this is not the case. Statistically sure most young healthy
people are not going to die from it. But it still makes normal, otherwise
healthy, middle age people very sick in a way that influenza does not, over
a much longer interval measured in weeks rather than days. I am talking
about not being able to speak in full sentences for weeks, being short of
breath talking on the phone. Having pain in your lungs when you breathe.
For weeks.

I think the flu comparison article I posted speaks to this. Covid deaths
this year are multiples of influenza deaths even in a bad year.

Exercise is always good, as is eating right, not smoking and not being fat.

I am not trying to alarm anyone, or advocate for any particular response,
other than to rank it higher on the list of threats in your thinking than
the flu, take appropriate precautions, etc. Saying we are all going to get
it is rather defeatist when it is clearly possible to suppress to virtually
zero e.g. Taiwan, Hong Kong, China, Singapore, S. Korea. I dont think any
of us want to give it to our parents or elderly friends. Wash hands, wear a
mask if you are close to vulnerable people for more than 30 minutes in a
poorly ventilated space, these are sensible precautions that don't cost
much. Maybe we will start to track it better so we dont end up shutting the
whole economy down.

Ok maybe I was silly to bring it up, especially for Euan in New Zealand
where they dont even have any of this disease.

Maybe the meth jokes arent so bad after all.

As you were.

On Fri, May 15, 2020, 2:28 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Karl inquires:
>
> >How many people do you know who have died of the flu?
>
> With or of? A few over the years with, none of.
> I do have know someone who was very close to death from H1N1 in 2009.
> From, not with. She is still not 100% a decade later. That is/was a VERY
> nasty virus that directly killed a lot of otherwise healthy people.
>
> >The mom of my 3rd grader's classmate has been in >the hospital for about
> 6 weeks and a colleague of >mine at the hospital was out of work for 5
> weeks >and still cant breathe well when she lies flat. 40yo RN
>
> Estimated BMI over 30? Other comorbidities?
>
> Sorry folks, if you are fat, out of shape, or have other health issues,
> address what you can. The curve has been flattened, but the area under the
> curve has not. Meaning whoever was going to get this virus is still going
> to get it, just later this year or next. Meaning we will have to fight off
> not only Covid 19, but influenza a or influenza b, AND Covid 19
> concomitantly. So, with that said,
>
> 1. If you smoke, quit. Now. I watched my mom and my brother pass from lung
> cancer. I suspect death from this is similar.
> 2. If you have a BMI over 30, lose fat. Now. Diet is key. Stop putting
> garbage in your pie hole.
> 3. If you can tolerate hard aerobic exercise, do it every day. (Increase
> your VO2 max) This is a pulmonary disease. Increasing pulmonary function
> can only help.
> 4. Build some muscle. If you end up in the hospital for an extended
> period, more muscle mass will help.
> 5. Get some sunshine. Vitamin D is good for you.
>
> That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
> Obviously I am not a doctor, just an uneducated rube, and if this advice
> is offensive, so be it. If it is bad advise, please post credible links
> disproving it.
>
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The Bug was Re: Sticking my neck out

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Karl,
Does anybody honestly believe the numbers coming out of China? I find them so 
low as to be a joke...
I'm with Rick, we're all going to get this eventually, it's essentially a new, 
much worse, flu. Get used to the idea now. This who are waiting for a vaccine 
ignore the fact that the record for a vaccine release is 4 years.
Curt

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  On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 7:52 PM, Karl Wittnebel via 
Mercedes wrote:   Rick I won't tell either of them that 
you said they were fat or unhealthy
:-) Picture very fit, active, healthy moms in their 40s and you will have
the idea.

My point is exactly that: many people (including me) want to minimize this
thing by thinking that all the people getting sick are somehow not like
them, but this is not the case. Statistically sure most young healthy
people are not going to die from it. But it still makes normal, otherwise
healthy, middle age people very sick in a way that influenza does not, over
a much longer interval measured in weeks rather than days. I am talking
about not being able to speak in full sentences for weeks, being short of
breath talking on the phone. Having pain in your lungs when you breathe.
For weeks.

I think the flu comparison article I posted speaks to this. Covid deaths
this year are multiples of influenza deaths even in a bad year.

Exercise is always good, as is eating right, not smoking and not being fat.

I am not trying to alarm anyone, or advocate for any particular response,
other than to rank it higher on the list of threats in your thinking than
the flu, take appropriate precautions, etc. Saying we are all going to get
it is rather defeatist when it is clearly possible to suppress to virtually
zero e.g. Taiwan, Hong Kong, China, Singapore, S. Korea. I dont think any
of us want to give it to our parents or elderly friends. Wash hands, wear a
mask if you are close to vulnerable people for more than 30 minutes in a
poorly ventilated space, these are sensible precautions that don't cost
much. Maybe we will start to track it better so we dont end up shutting the
whole economy down.

Ok maybe I was silly to bring it up, especially for Euan in New Zealand
where they dont even have any of this disease.

Maybe the meth jokes arent so bad after all.

As you were.

On Fri, May 15, 2020, 2:28 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Karl inquires:
>
> >How many people do you know who have died of the flu?
>
> With or of? A few over the years with, none of.
> I do have know someone who was very close to death from H1N1 in 2009.
> From, not with. She is still not 100% a decade later. That is/was a VERY
> nasty virus that directly killed a lot of otherwise healthy people.
>
> >The mom of my 3rd grader's classmate has been in >the hospital for about
> 6 weeks and a colleague of >mine at the hospital was out of work for 5
> weeks >and still cant breathe well when she lies flat. 40yo RN
>
> Estimated BMI over 30? Other comorbidities?
>
> Sorry folks, if you are fat, out of shape, or have other health issues,
> address what you can. The curve has been flattened, but the area under the
> curve has not. Meaning whoever was going to get this virus is still going
> to get it, just later this year or next. Meaning we will have to fight off
> not only Covid 19, but influenza a or influenza b, AND Covid 19
> concomitantly. So, with that said,
>
> 1. If you smoke, quit. Now. I watched my mom and my brother pass from lung
> cancer. I suspect death from this is similar.
> 2. If you have a BMI over 30, lose fat. Now. Diet is key. Stop putting
> garbage in your pie hole.
> 3. If you can tolerate hard aerobic exercise, do it every day. (Increase
> your VO2 max) This is a pulmonary disease. Increasing pulmonary function
> can only help.
> 4. Build some muscle. If you end up in the hospital for an extended
> period, more muscle mass will help.
> 5. Get some sunshine. Vitamin D is good for you.
>
> That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
> Obviously I am not a doctor, just an uneducated rube, and if this advice
> is offensive, so be it. If it is bad advise, please post credible links
> disproving it.
>
> Rick
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Need help with Win7 laptop

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Free upgrade to windows 10?  I had similar issues with 7, all or most of the 
disk space would get eaten up.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC
May 15, 2020 8:17:41 PM Craig via Mercedes :

>   I was using my Win7 laptop, looking at one of Newegg's pages in my 
>  
> Seamonkey (Mozilla) browser while also opening another page in another 
>  
> tab (which I have done without problems for years). 
>  
>  
>  The page I was viewing suddenly was greyed out and things became very 
>  
> slow. Among other things, I tried opening the Task Manager by typing 
>  
> ctrl-alt-delete, but when I got to the blue screen where I had the choice 
>  
> of starting the Task Manager, it was totally responsive, even to clicking 
>  
> the shutdown button. I left it or an hour or so and came back to it and 
>  
> found the same problem. 
>  
>  
>  I finally held the power button down until the laptop shut down. After 
>  
> pressing it again to restart, I selected starting in safe mode. There, 
>  
> I scheduled a disk check at the next boot and rebooted. 
>  
>  
>  After the disk check was done and the laptop was ready to log onto, I 
> did 
>  
> so. 
>  
>  
>  I found the free space on the disk, which had been about 10 GB, was now 
>  
> 639 MB. 
>  
>  
>  I ran Disk Cleanup and the free space went up to 1.7 GB. 
>  
>  
>  I also noted when I tried to download a file from the Web the download 
>  
> failed. 
>  
>  
>  Since I have Cygwin installed I was able to look at the file in the 
>  
> directory and see what its mode was. Instead of being 
>  
>  
>     -rwxrwx---   (770) 
>  
>  
>  as previously, it was 
>  
>  
>     rwx---   (070) 
>  
>  
>  which means instead of the user (me) being able to read/write/execute 
> the 
>  
> file he had no permissions to do anything. By executing the chmod command 
>  
> to change the downloaded file's permissions to 770, I was able to retry 
>  
> the download, which worked. 
>  
>  
>  So:  How do I get the free space back to where it was? 
>  
>  
>   How do I get my web browser to put the proper permissions 
>  
>   on downloaded files so the downloads can be successful? 
>  
>  
>  Thank you for your help! 
>  
>  
>   
>  Craig 
>  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The Bug was Re: Sticking my neck out

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I had pneumonia when I was 22. Happened over Thanksgiving weekend. I was very 
fit, almost athletic, didn’t smoke or drink, and was in excellent health. I had 
what I thought was a cold with a nasty chest cough. within a day or two I was 
totally wiped out. Went to our walk in clinic at IU Med Center and they 
immediately admitted me to the hospital there.

That was the most debilitating illness I’ve ever had in my life. I was so weak 
I could barely hold a glass of water. It hurt to breathe. It took months to 
regain my strength and stamina. The first few weeks after I returned to work I 
worked half days because I was so wiped out by noon I didn’t have the strength 
to drive myself home.

I don’t know how this latest thing affects most people other than what I’ve 
seen and heard described, but I can tell you that without question, the flu, 
pneumonia and other diseases that affect the respiratory system like this are 
frightening. As soon as a pneumonia vaccine became available I got it. I 
learned to recognize the symptoms as I approached running myself down, which is 
what started it to begin with, and know when to “throttle back” so as not to 
compromise myself again.

I’m just saying - don’t think that getting something like pneumonia will be a 
transitional thing - it will affect you for months, maybe even years.

-D

> On May 15, 2020, at 7:51 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Rick I won't tell either of them that you said they were fat or unhealthy
> :-) Picture very fit, active, healthy moms in their 40s and you will have
> the idea.
> 
> My point is exactly that: many people (including me) want to minimize this
> thing by thinking that all the people getting sick are somehow not like
> them, but this is not the case. Statistically sure most young healthy
> people are not going to die from it. But it still makes normal, otherwise
> healthy, middle age people very sick in a way that influenza does not, over
> a much longer interval measured in weeks rather than days. I am talking
> about not being able to speak in full sentences for weeks, being short of
> breath talking on the phone. Having pain in your lungs when you breathe.
> For weeks.
> 
> I think the flu comparison article I posted speaks to this. Covid deaths
> this year are multiples of influenza deaths even in a bad year.
> 
> Exercise is always good, as is eating right, not smoking and not being fat.
> 
> I am not trying to alarm anyone, or advocate for any particular response,
> other than to rank it higher on the list of threats in your thinking than
> the flu, take appropriate precautions, etc. Saying we are all going to get
> it is rather defeatist when it is clearly possible to suppress to virtually
> zero e.g. Taiwan, Hong Kong, China, Singapore, S. Korea. I dont think any
> of us want to give it to our parents or elderly friends. Wash hands, wear a
> mask if you are close to vulnerable people for more than 30 minutes in a
> poorly ventilated space, these are sensible precautions that don't cost
> much. Maybe we will start to track it better so we dont end up shutting the
> whole economy down.
> 
> Ok maybe I was silly to bring it up, especially for Euan in New Zealand
> where they dont even have any of this disease.
> 
> Maybe the meth jokes arent so bad after all.
> 
> As you were.
> 
> On Fri, May 15, 2020, 2:28 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Karl inquires:
>> 
>>> How many people do you know who have died of the flu?
>> 
>> With or of? A few over the years with, none of.
>> I do have know someone who was very close to death from H1N1 in 2009.
>> From, not with. She is still not 100% a decade later. That is/was a VERY
>> nasty virus that directly killed a lot of otherwise healthy people.
>> 
>>> The mom of my 3rd grader's classmate has been in >the hospital for about
>> 6 weeks and a colleague of >mine at the hospital was out of work for 5
>> weeks >and still cant breathe well when she lies flat. 40yo RN
>> 
>> Estimated BMI over 30? Other comorbidities?
>> 
>> Sorry folks, if you are fat, out of shape, or have other health issues,
>> address what you can. The curve has been flattened, but the area under the
>> curve has not. Meaning whoever was going to get this virus is still going
>> to get it, just later this year or next. Meaning we will have to fight off
>> not only Covid 19, but influenza a or influenza b, AND Covid 19
>> concomitantly. So, with that said,
>> 
>> 1. If you smoke, quit. Now. I watched my mom and my brother pass from lung
>> cancer. I suspect death from this is similar.
>> 2. If you have a BMI over 30, lose fat. Now. Diet is key. Stop putting
>> garbage in your pie hole.
>> 3. If you can tolerate hard aerobic exercise, do it every day. (Increase
>> your VO2 max) This is a pulmonary disease. Increasing pulmonary function
>> can only help.
>> 4. Build some muscle. If you end up in the hospital for an extended
>> period, more muscle mass will help.
>> 5. Get 

[MBZ] OT: Need help with Win7 laptop

[Craig via Mercedes]

I was using my Win7 laptop, looking at one of Newegg's pages in my
Seamonkey (Mozilla) browser while also opening another page in another
tab (which I have done without problems for years).

The page I was viewing suddenly was greyed out and things became very
slow. Among other things, I tried opening the Task Manager by typing
ctrl-alt-delete, but when I got to the blue screen where I had the choice
of starting the Task Manager, it was totally responsive, even to clicking
the shutdown button. I left it or an hour or so and came back to it and
found the same problem.

I finally held the power button down until the laptop shut down. After
pressing it again to restart, I selected starting in safe mode. There,
I scheduled a disk check at the next boot and rebooted.

After the disk check was done and the laptop was ready to log onto, I did
so.

I found the free space on the disk, which had been about 10 GB, was now
639 MB.

I ran Disk Cleanup and the free space went up to 1.7 GB.

I also noted when I tried to download a file from the Web the download
failed.

Since I have Cygwin installed I was able to look at the file in the
directory and see what its mode was. Instead of being

   -rwxrwx---   (770)

as previously, it was

   rwx---   (070)

which means instead of the user (me) being able to read/write/execute the
file he had no permissions to do anything. By executing the chmod command
to change the downloaded file's permissions to 770, I was able to retry
the download, which worked.

So:  How do I get the free space back to where it was?

 How do I get my web browser to put the proper permissions
  on downloaded files so the downloads can be successful?

Thank you for your help!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The Bug was Re: Sticking my neck out

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Rick I won't tell either of them that you said they were fat or unhealthy
:-) Picture very fit, active, healthy moms in their 40s and you will have
the idea.

My point is exactly that: many people (including me) want to minimize this
thing by thinking that all the people getting sick are somehow not like
them, but this is not the case. Statistically sure most young healthy
people are not going to die from it. But it still makes normal, otherwise
healthy, middle age people very sick in a way that influenza does not, over
a much longer interval measured in weeks rather than days. I am talking
about not being able to speak in full sentences for weeks, being short of
breath talking on the phone. Having pain in your lungs when you breathe.
For weeks.

I think the flu comparison article I posted speaks to this. Covid deaths
this year are multiples of influenza deaths even in a bad year.

Exercise is always good, as is eating right, not smoking and not being fat.

I am not trying to alarm anyone, or advocate for any particular response,
other than to rank it higher on the list of threats in your thinking than
the flu, take appropriate precautions, etc. Saying we are all going to get
it is rather defeatist when it is clearly possible to suppress to virtually
zero e.g. Taiwan, Hong Kong, China, Singapore, S. Korea. I dont think any
of us want to give it to our parents or elderly friends. Wash hands, wear a
mask if you are close to vulnerable people for more than 30 minutes in a
poorly ventilated space, these are sensible precautions that don't cost
much. Maybe we will start to track it better so we dont end up shutting the
whole economy down.

Ok maybe I was silly to bring it up, especially for Euan in New Zealand
where they dont even have any of this disease.

Maybe the meth jokes arent so bad after all.

As you were.

On Fri, May 15, 2020, 2:28 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Karl inquires:
>
> >How many people do you know who have died of the flu?
>
> With or of? A few over the years with, none of.
> I do have know someone who was very close to death from H1N1 in 2009.
> From, not with. She is still not 100% a decade later. That is/was a VERY
> nasty virus that directly killed a lot of otherwise healthy people.
>
> >The mom of my 3rd grader's classmate has been in >the hospital for about
> 6 weeks and a colleague of >mine at the hospital was out of work for 5
> weeks >and still cant breathe well when she lies flat. 40yo RN
>
> Estimated BMI over 30? Other comorbidities?
>
> Sorry folks, if you are fat, out of shape, or have other health issues,
> address what you can. The curve has been flattened, but the area under the
> curve has not. Meaning whoever was going to get this virus is still going
> to get it, just later this year or next. Meaning we will have to fight off
> not only Covid 19, but influenza a or influenza b, AND Covid 19
> concomitantly. So, with that said,
>
> 1. If you smoke, quit. Now. I watched my mom and my brother pass from lung
> cancer. I suspect death from this is similar.
> 2. If you have a BMI over 30, lose fat. Now. Diet is key. Stop putting
> garbage in your pie hole.
> 3. If you can tolerate hard aerobic exercise, do it every day. (Increase
> your VO2 max) This is a pulmonary disease. Increasing pulmonary function
> can only help.
> 4. Build some muscle. If you end up in the hospital for an extended
> period, more muscle mass will help.
> 5. Get some sunshine. Vitamin D is good for you.
>
> That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
> Obviously I am not a doctor, just an uneducated rube, and if this advice
> is offensive, so be it. If it is bad advise, please post credible links
> disproving it.
>
> Rick
>
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Recall: OT: Political, Whodunit?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Greg Fiorentino would like to recall the message, "OT: Political,
Whodunit?".
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Recall: OT: Political, Whodunit?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Greg Fiorentino would like to recall the message, "OT: Political,
Whodunit?".
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** OT: Political, Whodunit?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Well, since K'leb has authorized politics, I might as well give y'all some 
breaking news.

 

former pres. Obama and former AG Lynch likely dunit.

 

Here's how we now know (H/T to Dan Bongino):

 

Flynn's conversation took place on 12/29/2016

 

The WH meeting took place on 01/05/2017

 

The leak occurred on 01/06/2017

 

There are 3 "legal" ways to have intercepted the call and gotten Flynn's name:

 

1- Criminal warrant, not likely

 

2- FISA warrant, no record

 

3- Unmasked by request, no record in that time frame. They were discussing this 
by the end of December

 

But there's another way: 50 USC 1802 allows POTUS to order the surveillance in 
lieu of obtaining a FISA warrant at the request of the AG if the AG certifies 
that no US Citizen is likely to be incidentally captured.

 

Lookin' like that's exactly what happened, and will explain why BHO looked so 
nervous when he accused AG Barr of "hurting the rule of law".

 

Greg

 

 

 

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Re: [MBZ] Sticking my neck out - an Antipodean perspective

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Hi Euan,
Good to hear from you.  I have been a minority  critic of the list and even
unsubbed during the American political season in 2016.
I like your idea of list choices for sublists. I hope that would be
feasible

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
2005 E320 4matic
Wickford RI


On Fri, May 15, 2020, 7:09 PM Euan Kennedy via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Hi all, from the Southern Colonies
>
> I have always treated this mailing list as yours. Thus I have no right to
> object to its content. And if I do, then I can simply suspend my
> subscription.
>
> As it turns out, I have often done that since signing up more than two
> decades ago.
>
> My chief interest is in learning more from you technically-competent guys
> about my 300TD. Occasionally I can offer something worthwhile in return.
> But most of the list's traffic is irrelevant to my situation, including
> almost all of the OT postings. When finding diamonds in the dross becomes
> too tedious, I take time out. I’m deleting 98% of emails right now, so I’ll
> soon be signing off for a while, I think.
>
> I don’t intend that to be a reflection on you guys. I thank you sincerely
> for the generosity of your advice in answer to my technical questions. I
> appreciate that very much indeed.
>
> Were I to offer a suggestion, then how about creating sublists: one for
> technical stuff, one for cars and prices, and one for general commentary on
> the American Way of Life? Is that feasible?
>
> Euan
>
> 1985 W123 300TD 5-spd manual
> 223K miles
>
> Christchurch, NZ
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: proper application of pinstripes

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 14 May 2020 16:30:01 -0400 Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes
 wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAircVPnvSs

That's amazing! I wonder how long it takes to learn, perfect, and do
that ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Sticking my neck out - an Antipodean perspective

[Euan Kennedy via Mercedes]

Hi all, from the Southern Colonies 

I have always treated this mailing list as yours. Thus I have no right to 
object to its content. And if I do, then I can simply suspend my subscription. 

As it turns out, I have often done that since signing up more than two decades 
ago. 

My chief interest is in learning more from you technically-competent guys about 
my 300TD. Occasionally I can offer something worthwhile in return. But most of 
the list's traffic is irrelevant to my situation, including almost all of the 
OT postings. When finding diamonds in the dross becomes too tedious, I take 
time out. I’m deleting 98% of emails right now, so I’ll soon be signing off for 
a while, I think.

I don’t intend that to be a reflection on you guys. I thank you sincerely for 
the generosity of your advice in answer to my technical questions. I appreciate 
that very much indeed.

Were I to offer a suggestion, then how about creating sublists: one for 
technical stuff, one for cars and prices, and one for general commentary on the 
American Way of Life? Is that feasible?

Euan

1985 W123 300TD 5-spd manual
223K miles

Christchurch, NZ





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Re: [MBZ] FW: 1960 190 SL - if one of you guys wanna get off of your wallet

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Just bought the winning lottery ticket [Of course I'm sure], so I'll buy it
on Monday.. ;))

Would be a fun car to add to the stable. Looks like it's been loved.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 2:10 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
> 1960 190 SL
> https://flagstaff.craigslist.org/cto/7124017084.html
>
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[MBZ] OT: The Bug was Re: Sticking my neck out

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Karl inquires:

>How many people do you know who have died of the flu? 

With or of? A few over the years with, none of. 
I do have know someone who was very close to death from H1N1 in 2009. From, not 
with. She is still not 100% a decade later. That is/was a VERY nasty virus that 
directly killed a lot of otherwise healthy people. 

>The mom of my 3rd grader's classmate has been in >the hospital for about 6 
>weeks and a colleague of >mine at the hospital was out of work for 5 weeks 
>>and still cant breathe well when she lies flat. 40yo RN

Estimated BMI over 30? Other comorbidities?

Sorry folks, if you are fat, out of shape, or have other health issues, address 
what you can. The curve has been flattened, but the area under the curve has 
not. Meaning whoever was going to get this virus is still going to get it, just 
later this year or next. Meaning we will have to fight off not only Covid 19, 
but influenza a or influenza b, AND Covid 19 concomitantly. So, with that said,

1. If you smoke, quit. Now. I watched my mom and my brother pass from lung 
cancer. I suspect death from this is similar. 
2. If you have a BMI over 30, lose fat. Now. Diet is key. Stop putting garbage 
in your pie hole. 
3. If you can tolerate hard aerobic exercise, do it every day. (Increase your 
VO2 max) This is a pulmonary disease. Increasing pulmonary function can only 
help. 
4. Build some muscle. If you end up in the hospital for an extended period, 
more muscle mass will help. 
5. Get some sunshine. Vitamin D is good for you. 

That's all I can think of off the top of my head. 
Obviously I am not a doctor, just an uneducated rube, and if this advice is 
offensive, so be it. If it is bad advise, please post credible links disproving 
it. 

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] Flooding at Okie acres

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Already stocked up. Don’t really have a reason to leave since I’m working at 
home. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 15, 2020, at 4:04 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 15 May 2020 15:49:14 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> I’m sure you remember last year when the road was flooded for 2 weeks.
>> Just got a river warning that the river is expected to be at 34 feet
>> tomorrow. Last year it was at 36. I can’t remember what it had to drop
>> to before the water drained out enough to get off the road. In other
>> words, appears we might get flooded in again. 
> 
> May you stay safe!
> 
> How often do you use the road? Should you stock up on
> (groceries, parts, ?) before it floods?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: gas stove ignitor

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Yeah I like repaiclinic too. Their parts prices are a little on the high
side but they do have a lot of how-to info so it's worth it.

Unfortunately this stove is an old Viking and not listed. I'll probably
have to find the spark module and see if there's a label or part number
on it.

Allan

Craig via Mercedes  writes:

> On Fri, 15 May 2020 15:56:24 -0400 Frederick Moir via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
>> Allan.
>> i used repairclinic.com for the same part.
>> Was easy to install, plus they have some "how to" info onsite.
>> YMMV
>> Fred.
>
> I will second repairclinic.com; I have used them myself.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Flooding at Okie acres

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

We won’t flood but the road does 

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> On May 15, 2020, at 3:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Flood cars! SEND TITLE!!
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 15, 2020, at 4:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m sure you remember last year when the road was flooded for 2 weeks. Just 
>> got a river warning that the river is expected to be at 34 feet tomorrow. 
>> Last year it was at 36. I can’t remember what it had to drop to before the 
>> water drained out enough to get off the road. In other words, appears we 
>> might get flooded in again. 
>> 
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1960 190 SL
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Re: [MBZ] Flooding at Okie acres

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 15 May 2020 15:49:14 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I’m sure you remember last year when the road was flooded for 2 weeks.
> Just got a river warning that the river is expected to be at 34 feet
> tomorrow. Last year it was at 36. I can’t remember what it had to drop
> to before the water drained out enough to get off the road. In other
> words, appears we might get flooded in again. 

May you stay safe!

How often do you use the road? Should you stock up on
(groceries, parts, ?) before it floods?


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Re: [MBZ] Guy on 129 FB group

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Yeah if you dont have to pay health insurance, retirement or kids college
expenses, you can afford to pay a lot of taxes. It's only when you pay all
3 that paying 51% income tax over the top starts to seem a bit excessive.

On Fri, May 15, 2020, 10:56 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Cost him $23k to register his SL500 in Denmark, but he's not complaining
> because they get a lot for their taxes
>
> "23.000 USD in registration tax but I finally got Danish plates on my
> SL500 I brought with me when I moved back home from California. Driving
> R129 in a welfare state isn’t cheap"
>
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Re: [MBZ] Flooding at Okie acres

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Flood cars! SEND TITLE!!

-D

> On May 15, 2020, at 4:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’m sure you remember last year when the road was flooded for 2 weeks. Just 
> got a river warning that the river is expected to be at 34 feet tomorrow. 
> Last year it was at 36. I can’t remember what it had to drop to before the 
> water drained out enough to get off the road. In other words, appears we 
> might get flooded in again. 
> 
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[MBZ] Flooding at Okie acres

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I’m sure you remember last year when the road was flooded for 2 weeks. Just got 
a river warning that the river is expected to be at 34 feet tomorrow. Last year 
it was at 36. I can’t remember what it had to drop to before the water drained 
out enough to get off the road. In other words, appears we might get flooded in 
again. 

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Re: [MBZ] 396-hp twin-turbo 3.0-liter V-6

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Only thing faster is the depreciation. I followed one of these home the
other day and yeah they are quick. But so is a c300.

On Fri, May 15, 2020, 11:35 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> I guess this would be plenty fast
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1403920429806051
>
> 2018 Mercedes-Benz AMG E-Class E 43 AMG Sedan 4D
>
> $57,000
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Re: [MBZ] Sticking my neck out

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Yeah when I see the drug jokes I think to myself "these dudes really don't
deal with drug addicts very much". But I find some of the ad typos highly
entertaining.

OT speaking of list decline I will contribute a bit in the interests of the
health of group members. There was some talk about how covid and flu death
rates are comparable and I just wanted to point out how incorrect that is
for anyone inclined to think about the two diseases as being similar in
severity. This sums it up pretty well:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2766121?guestAccessKey=28f9727c-0a86-4d26-8900-e4391ec18af2_source=silverchair_medium=email_campaign=article_alert-jamainternalmedicine_content=olf_term=0051420

Many of us will know people who are seriously ill or die from covid 19. How
many people do you know who have died of the flu? The mom of my 3rd
grader's classmate has been in the hospital for about 6 weeks and a
colleague of mine at the hospital was out of work for 5 weeks and still
cant breathe well when she lies flat. 40yo RN. Flu doesnt do that. We still
dont know why certain people are affected and others develop only mild
symptoms, but the fact remains this is still running around the country
affecting a lot of people.

Take care of yourselves.

Karl

On Thu, May 14, 2020, 2:32 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> OK, I am sticking my neck out here because I am going to complain about
> the list.
>
> It is really going downhill and if this continues we will fade away.
>
> I am tired of reading about how people think that anyone offering an old
> Mercedes for sale is on crack.
>
> There is very little point in posting all of these ads for cars that we
> will likely never buy.
>
> If you want to advise us of a car for sale, just tell us about it and
> post the link. We don't need to know that you think the vendor is on drugs.
>
> We can form our own opinions on the subject.
>
> Let us get back to the real original intention of this list.
>
> Tell us about your car(s). Good or bad. Issues you have or have had and
> repaired.
>
> Trips you have taken with them. Tell us stories.
>
> Go off topic if you have something else interesting to share. Curt's
> Coleman stories are a good example.
>
> Some of you are no doubt interested in other things. Don and his
> aircraft are an example.
>
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 15 May 2020 14:35:53 -0400 Allan Streib via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
> 
> > Trust me, if it wasn’t a money saving thing, Publix wouldn’t be doing
> > it. The margins in the grocery business are so thin they don’t spend
> > a penny without justifying it.
> 
> Probably the reduced heat output of the lights is the biggest thing,
> along with turning them off when nobody is nearby.
> 
> Bright lighting is important for merchandise appeal leading to impulse
> purchases, but at the same time you'd like to avoid hot lights in a
> freezer!

Some of the stores here (our local Wal-Mart, for example) have general
lighting which is turned on or off depending on how bright the sun coming
through the skylights is. The Wal-Mart, as large as it is, controls the
lights in relatively small sectors, so if one skylight is blocked by a
cloud only the lights in that area are turned on.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: gas stove ignitor

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 15 May 2020 15:56:24 -0400 Frederick Moir via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Allan.
> i used repairclinic.com for the same part.
> Was easy to install, plus they have some "how to" info onsite.
> YMMV
> Fred.

I will second repairclinic.com; I have used them myself.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Sticking my neck out

[MG via Mercedes]

I'm with you. I read almost all the emails and those 
that don't interest me at the first few words get the 
trash bag.


MG

Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

I like seeing the pointers to cars for sale, because I don't use
Facebook nor do I have the time to browse craigslist, copart, hemmings,
eBay, et. al. in their hundreds of locales.

I also like knowing whether people think something is priced high, low,
or about right. I don't have a barometer on that myself. Though
admittedly with an older car it's much more about the condition and
history of the specific example than it is about age or mileage alone.

I get a laugh out of some of them too, such as the recent "made for
Audubon."

I don't know about everyone else but I very often skip dozens of emails
just based on the subject. With the lockdown I'm reading the list a bit
more, but earlier this year I would maybe open about 10% of the emails.

Maybe those of us who don't want to see these can set up a filter in our
own email account to put them in a separate folder or auto-trash them or
whatever.

Allan

Randy Bennell via Mercedes  writes:

OK, I am sticking my neck out here because I am going to complain about 
the list.


It is really going downhill and if this continues we will fade away.

I am tired of reading about how people think that anyone offering an old 
Mercedes for sale is on crack.


There is very little point in posting all of these ads for cars that we 
will likely never buy.


If you want to advise us of a car for sale, just tell us about it and 
post the link. We don't need to know that you think the vendor is on drugs.


We can form our own opinions on the subject.

Let us get back to the real original intention of this list.

Tell us about your car(s). Good or bad. Issues you have or have had and 
repaired.


Trips you have taken with them. Tell us stories.

Go off topic if you have something else interesting to share. Curt's 
Coleman stories are a good example.


Some of you are no doubt interested in other things. Don and his 
aircraft are an example.


RB




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Re: [MBZ] Sticking my neck out

[MG via Mercedes]

That's true I have only 330k or so now. My wife's 
Tacoma has over 360 and doesn't leak anywhere.


Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

On 14/05/2020 4:38 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote:
Well the past couple of months my 83 TD has been running exceptionally 
well.
Could it be because of a much higher quality of fuel then we have been 
getting?


How many miles on it? Maybe you finally have it broken in.

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Re: [MBZ] 210 E320 rear end howl

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

*Although just as a test I pointed mine at my forehead and it came up with
a "max" reading of 98.6 so who knows?*
Feel free to mingle.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 3:38 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > Just are good just to screen out people with a raging fever.
>
> The difference between a raging fever and normal is about 5 degrees. A
> "moderate" fever is less than that. I would not trust my Harbor Freight
> thermometer to be that accurate.
>
> Although just as a test I pointed mine at my forehead and it came up
> with a "max" reading of 98.6 so who knows? Maybe they are better than I
> thought.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: gas stove ignitor

[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

Allan.
i used repairclinic.com for the same part.
Was easy to install, plus they have some "how to" info onsite.
YMMV
Fred.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 3:49 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have a gas stove, with electronic ignition. There is an ignitor spark
> point for each burner, but they all spark together regardless of which
> burner valve is operated, so I guess there must be a single coil and
> circuit that creates the high voltage pulses to all the ignitors.
>
> Anyway, recently it developed the symptom where if the oven has been on,
> the burner ignitors don't work. No spark at all. If the oven is cold,
> the burner ignitors work fine. So something temperature
> dependent. Anyone dealt with this sort of thing?
>
> The oven ignitor is separate and it's an incandescent coil setup.
>
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[MBZ] OT: gas stove ignitor

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I have a gas stove, with electronic ignition. There is an ignitor spark
point for each burner, but they all spark together regardless of which
burner valve is operated, so I guess there must be a single coil and
circuit that creates the high voltage pulses to all the ignitors.

Anyway, recently it developed the symptom where if the oven has been on,
the burner ignitors don't work. No spark at all. If the oven is cold,
the burner ignitors work fine. So something temperature
dependent. Anyone dealt with this sort of thing?

The oven ignitor is separate and it's an incandescent coil setup.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] 210 E320 rear end howl

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:

> Just are good just to screen out people with a raging fever.

The difference between a raging fever and normal is about 5 degrees. A
"moderate" fever is less than that. I would not trust my Harbor Freight
thermometer to be that accurate.

Although just as a test I pointed mine at my forehead and it came up
with a "max" reading of 98.6 so who knows? Maybe they are better than I
thought.

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] 2000 Mercedes Benz S500 AMG Presidential

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It’s not an issue of recalls. They were poorly designed and had numerous issues 
with things like pneumatic suspension, electricals, brakes, etc., etc.

If there was a model/chassis I would tell people to avoid, it would be the 
early W220s. Later years, like 2003 and up, were better, but marginally.

-D

> On May 15, 2020, at 3:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> What if everything works and all the recalls have been satisfied?  
> 
> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 3:25 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> There’s nothing “presidential” about that car. Not to mention it’s a 2000 
> W220, one of the absolutely worst cars/model years Mercedes ever made IMHO.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On May 15, 2020, at 3:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > IF everything works then that is a true bargain  ("a lot of car") for $5k.
> > 
> > On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 2:21 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > 
> >> It must have bulletproof windows and maybe it comes with a parrot to
> >> ride on your shoulder
> >> 
> >> 
> >> https://savannah.craigslist.org/cto/d/hinesville-2000-mercedes-benz-s500-amg/7123955997.html
> >>  
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Re: [MBZ] 2000 Mercedes Benz S500 AMG Presidential

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

What if everything works and all the recalls have been satisfied?

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 3:25 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> There’s nothing “presidential” about that car. Not to mention it’s a 2000
> W220, one of the absolutely worst cars/model years Mercedes ever made IMHO.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 15, 2020, at 3:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > IF everything works then that is a true bargain  ("a lot of car") for
> $5k.
> >
> > On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 2:21 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It must have bulletproof windows and maybe it comes with a parrot to
> >> ride on your shoulder
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://savannah.craigslist.org/cto/d/hinesville-2000-mercedes-benz-s500-amg/7123955997.html
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] 2000 Mercedes Benz S500 AMG Presidential

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There’s nothing “presidential” about that car. Not to mention it’s a 2000 W220, 
one of the absolutely worst cars/model years Mercedes ever made IMHO.

-D

> On May 15, 2020, at 3:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> IF everything works then that is a true bargain  ("a lot of car") for $5k.
> 
> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 2:21 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> 
>> It must have bulletproof windows and maybe it comes with a parrot to
>> ride on your shoulder
>> 
>> 
>> https://savannah.craigslist.org/cto/d/hinesville-2000-mercedes-benz-s500-amg/7123955997.html
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Re: [MBZ] 210 E320 rear end howl

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Just are good just to screen out people with a raging fever.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 2:44 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> I’ve got a couple of them and would agree. For temperature differentials,
> sure, but not for any sort of accurate surface temperature.
>
> The oldest one’s rubber cover is getting all sticky. High quality stuff,
> no doubt.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 15, 2020, at 2:25 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I don’t see how one of those would be able to take a persons temp
> accurately.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On May 15, 2020, at 12:35 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> One of those infrared thermometers is great for finding this sort of
> >> thing. Also sticking brake calipers/cylinders.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately if you don't already have one they are a little hard to
> >> find right now because people are buying them up for COVID
> >> screening. Harbor Freight isn't even listing them right now.
> >>
> >> Seems odd because the cheap ones are definitely not medical grade. They
> >> are good for finding hot spots and relative temperature differences but
> >> I don't think they are terribly accurate. I would be concerned if anyone
> >> was screening for disease with a $25 Harbor Freight thermometer.
> >>
> >> Allan
> >>
> >>
> >> Max Dillon via Mercedes  writes:
> >>
> >>> Bad wheel bearing will be hot, or at least warmer than the other good
> >>> bearing.  Don't burn your fingers!
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] 2000 Mercedes Benz S500 AMG Presidential

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IF everything works then that is a true bargain  ("a lot of car") for $5k.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 2:21 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> It must have bulletproof windows and maybe it comes with a parrot to
> ride on your shoulder
>
>
> https://savannah.craigslist.org/cto/d/hinesville-2000-mercedes-benz-s500-amg/7123955997.html
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Re: [MBZ] Extra grippy tires on AMG rims

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What a train wreck.

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>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/salters-2009-mercedes-benz-s550-with/7124573417.html
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Re: [MBZ] Dan - you have one of these, no? FW: 2002 Mercedes ML 500

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5,000 lbs., I believe.

-D

> On May 15, 2020, at 3:03 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dan-what is that rated to tow?
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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> From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 10:36 AM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: Floyd Thursby
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dan - you have one of these, no? FW: 2002 Mercedes ML 500
> 
> If it siting their idoling with the AC BLOWING ICE COLD it will have 
> that temp
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 5/15/20 12:14 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Temp is fine especially in AZ. Should drop down a bit when you start moving.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 15, 2020, at 10:11 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does the temp in the pic seem high or is that correct?
>>> 
>>> Bob R
>>> 
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: [MBZ] Dan - you have one of these, no? FW: 2002 Mercedes ML 500

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Dan-what is that rated to tow?

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 10:36 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Floyd Thursby
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dan - you have one of these, no? FW: 2002 Mercedes ML 500

If it siting their idoling with the AC BLOWING ICE COLD it will have 
that temp

--FT

On 5/15/20 12:14 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> Temp is fine especially in AZ. Should drop down a bit when you start moving.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 15, 2020, at 10:11 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Does the temp in the pic seem high or is that correct?
>>
>> Bob R
>>
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, I remember those well. Usually on the roof of the store in the back. 
Architects used to like to put the generators in those equipment rooms, too. 
Lousy place to work.

Next best place was on the side of the loading dock, typically near the bailer 
used for the waste cardboard.

Stop in to do maintenance or repair on their generator set.

“Hey, where’s your generator located?”

“On the side of the loading dock, next to the bailer.”

(Walk back to the loading dock, no generator in sight. Get the stock boys to 
move the massive pile of broken down boxes waiting to be bailed to find the 
generator underneath. Safety first, guys!)

-D

> On Fri, 15 May 2020 11:48:02 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
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> 
>> Grocery stores have a whole “compressor room”
>> As we called it. It’s a big room with all of the compressors for all
>> the different units in one place. It sounds like the engine room of a
>> ship when you are in there.  Each freezer or refrigerator case does not
>> have a compressor at the unit like a home freezer does. 


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Re: [MBZ] FW: 1976 Mercedes 450SLC - Kaleb's Color

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Yeah, I know. All those creamed vegetables. Ugh. Better than a “technicolor 
yawn”.

-D

> On May 15, 2020, at 2:41 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> Peas, green beans...  my boy for a while as a toddler would only eat cooked 
> carrots and a coupla other things.  That made for interesting emissions...
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 5/15/20 2:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> More importantly, what have you been feeding your kid??
>> 
>> Nahh, I understand. Often wondered what happened inside their little bodies 
>> that so radically changed the color of the food they consumed.  Ugh.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 15, 2020, at 2:18 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It looks like baby diarrhea to me - hate that color.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 12:57 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 yeah you could get a vanity plate that says GUAC
 
 --FT
 
 On 5/15/20 1:41 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> The Guacamobile!
> 
> On Friday, May 15, 2020, 1:38:57 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I would call it Avocado if I had it
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 5/15/20 11:11 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>> Very nice. An SLC fiend would love this.
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 15 May 2020 11:48:02 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Grocery stores have a whole “compressor room”
> As we called it. It’s a big room with all of the compressors for all
> the different units in one place. It sounds like the engine room of a
> ship when you are in there.  Each freezer or refrigerator case does not
> have a compressor at the unit like a home freezer does. 

That is not how our grocery store in Edgewood, NM, works. There are many
units, including some in the middle of the store, which have their own
compressors. I guess New Mexico is backwards ... (Actually, I already
knew that. :-) )


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] No speaka English?

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I don't even want to ask, but it could be an interesting deal if that is 
indeed a recent pic of the car in question


--FT

On 5/15/20 2:34 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/280296109795136/


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Re: [MBZ] 210 E320 rear end howl

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’ve got a couple of them and would agree. For temperature differentials, sure, 
but not for any sort of accurate surface temperature.

The oldest one’s rubber cover is getting all sticky. High quality stuff, no 
doubt.

-D

> On May 15, 2020, at 2:25 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> I don’t see how one of those would be able to take a persons temp accurately. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 15, 2020, at 12:35 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> One of those infrared thermometers is great for finding this sort of
>> thing. Also sticking brake calipers/cylinders.
>> 
>> Unfortunately if you don't already have one they are a little hard to
>> find right now because people are buying them up for COVID
>> screening. Harbor Freight isn't even listing them right now.
>> 
>> Seems odd because the cheap ones are definitely not medical grade. They
>> are good for finding hot spots and relative temperature differences but
>> I don't think they are terribly accurate. I would be concerned if anyone
>> was screening for disease with a $25 Harbor Freight thermometer.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> 
>> Max Dillon via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> Bad wheel bearing will be hot, or at least warmer than the other good
>>> bearing.  Don't burn your fingers!
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Re: [MBZ] FW: 1976 Mercedes 450SLC - Kaleb's Color

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Peas, green beans...  my boy for a while as a toddler would only eat 
cooked carrots and a coupla other things.  That made for interesting 
emissions...


--FT

On 5/15/20 2:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

More importantly, what have you been feeding your kid??

Nahh, I understand. Often wondered what happened inside their little bodies 
that so radically changed the color of the food they consumed.  Ugh.

-D



On May 15, 2020, at 2:18 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:

It looks like baby diarrhea to me - hate that color.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 12:57 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


yeah you could get a vanity plate that says GUAC

--FT

On 5/15/20 1:41 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

The Guacamobile!

On Friday, May 15, 2020, 1:38:57 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:


I would call it Avocado if I had it

--FT

On 5/15/20 11:11 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

Very nice. An SLC fiend would love this.

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[MBZ] If illegal substances were still a factor in car sales on FB

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

they could have been involved in this pricing since it looks like he 
forgot to polish his headlights


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/532556417472653

2001 Mercedes-Benz E-Class
$6,000
Vehicles 
Listed 20 weeks ago in Myrtle Beach, SC 




 About This Vehicle…

Driven 131,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Silver · Interior color: Silver
Fuel type: Gasoline
Good condition 


 Seller's description…

2001 Mercedes e320 I have owned this car since 91k. Since i have owned i 
have installed new tires less than 2k on tires, front brake pads, engine 
mounts, spark plugs, transmission flushed, front end alignment, replaced 
rear window regulator, headlight restoration, repaired dash cluster, new 
battery 2yrs, services are up to date it was my daily driver and will go 
anywhere very reliable. very nice driving car. my pictures don't do it 
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Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> Trust me, if it wasn’t a money saving thing, Publix wouldn’t be doing it. The 
> margins in the grocery business are so thin they don’t spend a penny without 
> justifying it.

Probably the reduced heat output of the lights is the biggest thing,
along with turning them off when nobody is nearby.

Bright lighting is important for merchandise appeal leading to impulse
purchases, but at the same time you'd like to avoid hot lights in a
freezer!

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Re: [MBZ] FW: 1976 Mercedes 450SLC - Kaleb's Color

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

More importantly, what have you been feeding your kid??

Nahh, I understand. Often wondered what happened inside their little bodies 
that so radically changed the color of the food they consumed.  Ugh.

-D


> On May 15, 2020, at 2:18 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It looks like baby diarrhea to me - hate that color.
> 
> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 12:57 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> yeah you could get a vanity plate that says GUAC
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> On 5/15/20 1:41 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>>> The Guacamobile!
>>> 
>>> On Friday, May 15, 2020, 1:38:57 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I would call it Avocado if I had it
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> On 5/15/20 11:11 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
 Very nice. An SLC fiend would love this.
 
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[MBZ] 396-hp twin-turbo 3.0-liter V-6

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I guess this would be plenty fast

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1403920429806051

2018 Mercedes-Benz AMG E-Class E 43 AMG Sedan 4D

$57,000

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[MBZ] No speaka English?

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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/280296109795136/


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Re: [MBZ] bulletproof 3.0 six cylinder overhead cam engine

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$3k on a good day. Maybe $4k on BaT.

-D

> On May 15, 2020, at 2:17 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The asking price is not indicative of any substance-induced mental 
> aberration.  This car looks like a several year old car inside and outside
> 
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/north-charleston-classic-1989-mercedes/7124479986.html
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[MBZ] I paid a bit more than 1/4 this price for twice the miles

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 for twice the miles on an 05 and nearly as good a condition

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Re: [MBZ] Dan - you have one of these, no? FW: 2002 Mercedes ML 500

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Yes, I do. My beater truck. Why?

That’s a nice looking one, but too much money. Should be more like $3500. Same 
color as mine, too.

If they had parked it after driving and just turned the key on to get gauges it 
could easily be that hot.

-D



> On May 15, 2020, at 1:36 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If it siting their idoling with the AC BLOWING ICE COLD it will have that temp
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 5/15/20 12:14 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Temp is fine especially in AZ. Should drop down a bit when you start moving.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On May 15, 2020, at 10:11 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does the temp in the pic seem high or is that correct?
>>> 
>>> Bob R
>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 15 May 2020 12:20:21 -0500 Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 wrote:

> When I worked at a food factory we had refrigeration that utilized
> ammonia as the refrigerant. I believe they were at -20 f.  It is quite
> effective as a refrigerant, but for obvious reasons cannot be used in a
> residential or automotive setting. 

But since they are used where people do work, one wonders what would need
to be done to use them in a residential setting ...


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Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Oh I know all about grocery store margins. I was in that business for about 7-8 
years. 

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> On May 15, 2020, at 1:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Trust me, if it wasn’t a money saving thing, Publix wouldn’t be doing it. 
> The margins in the grocery business are so thin they don’t spend a penny 
> without justifying it.
> 
> My gun cabinet has an LED light in the top that’s operated by a motion 
> sensor. Only bummer is that the delay is only about 15-20 seconds, so if I’m 
> taking my time getting something in or out I have to wave my hand to get it 
> to turn on again…
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 15, 2020, at 1:00 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I suspect it makes a bigger deal in the off times where there are few people 
>> in the store.
>> I put LED strip lights in my gun cabinet with a pressure switch so they come 
>> on when I open the door. Works sweet.
>> -Curt
>> 
>>   On Friday, May 15, 2020, 12:52:28 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:  
>> 
>> Since LED is supposed to be so efficient I would not think that much 
>> considering there are people walking by all the time. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On May 15, 2020, at 11:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I noticed that Publix, the high end grocery chain in the SouthEast, is 
>>> equipping their freezer sections with LED lights and motion detection. When 
>>> you walk by the coolers the lights turn on. Move away, they turn off.
>>> 
>>> I wonder how much money this has saved them after the cost of the lighting?
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On May 15, 2020, at 12:43 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
 wrote:
 
 A store freezer is a much different animal than a home freezer. First, it
 is going to be 3 phase power, with high horsepower motors to drive  large
 compressors which use industrial cooling,  gasses.
 Second, the temp will be set quite low to accommodate the shoppers constant
 opening the large doors and standing with them open for minutes, or failing
 to close them carefully. Thus, the temps are set to "overkill" to keep
 product firmly frozen.
 
 Your home unit, at worst case, is opened perhaps two times a day, often
 perhaps two times per week. so "cold soak" is not interrupted.
 
 Pre plan ice cream use, set it on counter for 15 minutes before dipping
 with a warmed scoup.. you should be good.
 
> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 9:24 AM OK Don via Mercedes 
> 
> wrote:
> 
> I'm skeptical that a store freezer was really at -40F. I'd bet on a broken
> thermometer.
> Please let us know what you learn and decide on.
> 
> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:26 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Craig, I'm looking for a solution, best so far is maybe my freezer is too
>> cold.  However, one grocery store freezer was at -40, so I'm sceptical
> that
>> is the issue, and I'm not sure that setting our freezer at 10 to 15 deg F
>> will be acceptable to SWMBO.
>> 
>> I guess I will have to RTFM (instructions on ice cream container) or
> maybe
>> contact the maker.  Then I will be the list expert on frozen desserts.
>> 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> May 15, 2020 12:33:25 AM Craig via Mercedes :
>> 
>>>On Thu, 14 May 2020 20:49:06 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
>>> 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
  I haven't gotten any satisfactory answers yet.
 
 
 
>>> 
>>>So how do you define a satisfactory answer? Are we to have a
>> guessing
>>> 
>>> contest until we hit upon your answer, or do you want realistic
>>> 
>>> suggestions like you already have gotten?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
  Maybe I should offer a free jar of Andrew's artisanal pepper
>> jelly?
 
 
 
>>> 
>>>No.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 15 May 2020 08:38:47 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> The highest the temp goes in my kitchen freezer is 7 I believe. It is a
> French door with the freezer on bottom. What should the refrigerator
> section be set on?

35 - 40F, depending upon how accurately your refrigerator maintains
temperatures, how evenly throughout your refrigerator that temperature is
maintained, and what is the consequence of occasionally freezing the
stuff there.

We have Shirley's bottles of insulin in our refrigerator. Our cost with
insurance at the beginning of the year (before her prescription coverage
reaches the "donut hole") is generally $14/vial. After the "donut hole"
it is $126/vial. If we freeze an insurance-provided vial and have to
replace it on our own, it will be $358/vial. We keep those on the door
and thankfully have not frozen one, though we have frozen the outside of a
head of lettuce in the back near the bottom of the refrigerator section.

That said, the closer to freezing you keep it, the longer things will
last. Egg cartons say to keep them below 45F.


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Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Trust me, if it wasn’t a money saving thing, Publix wouldn’t be doing it. The 
margins in the grocery business are so thin they don’t spend a penny without 
justifying it.

My gun cabinet has an LED light in the top that’s operated by a motion sensor. 
Only bummer is that the delay is only about 15-20 seconds, so if I’m taking my 
time getting something in or out I have to wave my hand to get it to turn on 
again…

-D

> On May 15, 2020, at 1:00 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I suspect it makes a bigger deal in the off times where there are few people 
> in the store.
> I put LED strip lights in my gun cabinet with a pressure switch so they come 
> on when I open the door. Works sweet.
> -Curt
> 
>On Friday, May 15, 2020, 12:52:28 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Since LED is supposed to be so efficient I would not think that much 
> considering there are people walking by all the time. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 15, 2020, at 11:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I noticed that Publix, the high end grocery chain in the SouthEast, is 
>> equipping their freezer sections with LED lights and motion detection. When 
>> you walk by the coolers the lights turn on. Move away, they turn off.
>> 
>> I wonder how much money this has saved them after the cost of the lighting?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 15, 2020, at 12:43 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> A store freezer is a much different animal than a home freezer. First, it
>>> is going to be 3 phase power, with high horsepower motors to drive  large
>>> compressors which use industrial cooling,  gasses.
>>> Second, the temp will be set quite low to accommodate the shoppers constant
>>> opening the large doors and standing with them open for minutes, or failing
>>> to close them carefully. Thus, the temps are set to "overkill" to keep
>>> product firmly frozen.
>>> 
>>> Your home unit, at worst case, is opened perhaps two times a day, often
>>> perhaps two times per week. so "cold soak" is not interrupted.
>>> 
>>> Pre plan ice cream use, set it on counter for 15 minutes before dipping
>>> with a warmed scoup.. you should be good.
>>> 
 On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 9:24 AM OK Don via Mercedes 
 wrote:
 
 I'm skeptical that a store freezer was really at -40F. I'd bet on a broken
 thermometer.
 Please let us know what you learn and decide on.
 
 On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:26 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> Craig, I'm looking for a solution, best so far is maybe my freezer is too
> cold.  However, one grocery store freezer was at -40, so I'm sceptical
 that
> is the issue, and I'm not sure that setting our freezer at 10 to 15 deg F
> will be acceptable to SWMBO.
> 
> I guess I will have to RTFM (instructions on ice cream container) or
 maybe
> contact the maker.  Then I will be the list expert on frozen desserts.
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> May 15, 2020 12:33:25 AM Craig via Mercedes :
> 
>> On Thu, 14 May 2020 20:49:06 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
>> 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>   I haven't gotten any satisfactory answers yet.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> So how do you define a satisfactory answer? Are we to have a
> guessing
>> 
>> contest until we hit upon your answer, or do you want realistic
>> 
>> suggestions like you already have gotten?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>   Maybe I should offer a free jar of Andrew's artisanal pepper
> jelly?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> No.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 210 E320 rear end howl

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I don’t see how one of those would be able to take a persons temp accurately. 

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> On May 15, 2020, at 12:35 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> One of those infrared thermometers is great for finding this sort of
> thing. Also sticking brake calipers/cylinders.
> 
> Unfortunately if you don't already have one they are a little hard to
> find right now because people are buying them up for COVID
> screening. Harbor Freight isn't even listing them right now.
> 
> Seems odd because the cheap ones are definitely not medical grade. They
> are good for finding hot spots and relative temperature differences but
> I don't think they are terribly accurate. I would be concerned if anyone
> was screening for disease with a $25 Harbor Freight thermometer.
> 
> Allan
> 
> 
> Max Dillon via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Bad wheel bearing will be hot, or at least warmer than the other good
>> bearing.  Don't burn your fingers!
>> 
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[MBZ] 2000 Mercedes Benz S500 AMG Presidential

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It must have bulletproof windows and maybe it comes with a parrot to 
ride on your shoulder


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[MBZ] My camera gets vertigo if I turn it sideways

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Re: [MBZ] FW: 1976 Mercedes 450SLC - Kaleb's Color

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It looks like baby diarrhea to me - hate that color.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 12:57 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> yeah you could get a vanity plate that says GUAC
>
> --FT
>
> On 5/15/20 1:41 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> > The Guacamobile!
> >
> > On Friday, May 15, 2020, 1:38:57 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >
> > I would call it Avocado if I had it
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 5/15/20 11:11 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> > > Very nice. An SLC fiend would love this.
> > >
> > > Bob R
> > >
> > >
> > > 1976 Mercedes 450SLC
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[MBZ] bulletproof 3.0 six cylinder overhead cam engine

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

The asking price is not indicative of any substance-induced mental 
aberration.  This car looks like a several year old car inside and outside


https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/north-charleston-classic-1989-mercedes/7124479986.html

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[MBZ] Extra grippy tires on AMG rims

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https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/salters-2009-mercedes-benz-s550-with/7124573417.html

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Re: [MBZ] FW: 1976 Mercedes 450SLC - Kaleb's Color

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

yeah you could get a vanity plate that says GUAC

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On 5/15/20 1:41 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

The Guacamobile!

On Friday, May 15, 2020, 1:38:57 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:



I would call it Avocado if I had it

--FT

On 5/15/20 11:11 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> Very nice. An SLC fiend would love this.
>
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[MBZ] Guy on 129 FB group

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Cost him $23k to register his SL500 in Denmark, but he's not complaining 
because they get a lot for their taxes


"23.000 USD in registration tax but I finally got Danish plates on my 
SL500 I brought with me when I moved back home from California. Driving 
R129 in a welfare state isn’t cheap"


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Re: [MBZ] 210 E320 rear end howl

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Yeah I noticed going around a curve the sound diminished quite a bit so 
I guess that job is in my future.  Thanks all for the suggestions, does 
not sound like fun.  Maybe I should just sell this thing when I get the 
211 wagon and let some other fool deal with it.


2 days ago the PS pump started howling too, I added a bit of fluid but 
it didn't make a lot of difference.  BAH.  I have no idea why this stuff 
just starts from one day to the next.


--FT

On 5/15/20 9:37 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Yep the wheel bearings go bad for sure. I had to replace them on my fathers 98. 
Drive down the road, swerve hard to the left then to the righ. If it gets 
louder swerving to the left then it’s the right side, and vice versa. It’s a 
swine of a job but can be done with few different HF sets of tools.

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On May 14, 2020, at 10:38 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I changed the fluid in the rear diff a few weeks ago thinking that might have 
been the reason for this growling howling In the rear end. Didn’t really help.

This evening as I was driving on my little road trip I noticed it wasn’t quite 
as loud but was still there. I also noticed the sound changed on a curve which 
got me thinking it might be rear wheel bearings. (Or CV joints?  Do they howl 
like that?) And the sound did seem to be coming from more outboard than in the 
center.  So I guess I need to get into those. I need to find a tutorial or 
something from a manual or advice/experience checking them and doing whatever 
to them.

Any advice would be appreciated. I don’t want to let it go to a catastrophic 
failure.

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] For the crack haters on the list

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I paid for my junior prom in quarters. I used one of those containers like you 
get at the deli taped shut. IIRC I couldn't fit all $50 into the container so I 
taped 4 or 8 quarters to the lid.
-Curt

On Friday, May 15, 2020, 1:40:40 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Years ago, a guy at work had accumulated something like a $65 fine at
the university library. When they threatened to garnish his paycheck, he
finally paid it. In pennies. Loose. Some time later he got a letter
refunding his $0.04 overpayment. They wrote him a check.

Allan

"M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes"  writes:

> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:34 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Just for fun and if I had unlimited cash, I would show up with 24999 $1
>> bills.
>
>
> For extra fun, loose in a pillowcase.
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Re: [MBZ] FW: 1976 Mercedes 450SLC - Kaleb's Color

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 The Guacamobile!

On Friday, May 15, 2020, 1:38:57 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I would call it Avocado if I had it

--FT

On 5/15/20 11:11 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> Very nice. An SLC fiend would love this.
>
> Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] For the crack haters on the list

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Years ago, a guy at work had accumulated something like a $65 fine at
the university library. When they threatened to garnish his paycheck, he
finally paid it. In pennies. Loose. Some time later he got a letter
refunding his $0.04 overpayment. They wrote him a check.

Allan

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> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:34 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Just for fun and if I had unlimited cash, I would show up with 24999 $1
>> bills.
>
>
> For extra fun, loose in a pillowcase.
>

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Re: [MBZ] FW: 1976 Mercedes 450SLC - Kaleb's Color

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I would call it Avocado if I had it

--FT

On 5/15/20 11:11 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

Very nice. An SLC fiend would love this.

Bob R


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Re: [MBZ] Dan - you have one of these, no? FW: 2002 Mercedes ML 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

If it siting their idoling with the AC BLOWING ICE COLD it will have 
that temp


--FT

On 5/15/20 12:14 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Temp is fine especially in AZ. Should drop down a bit when you start moving.

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On May 15, 2020, at 10:11 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
wrote:

Does the temp in the pic seem high or is that correct?

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] 210 E320 rear end howl

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

One of those infrared thermometers is great for finding this sort of
thing. Also sticking brake calipers/cylinders.

Unfortunately if you don't already have one they are a little hard to
find right now because people are buying them up for COVID
screening. Harbor Freight isn't even listing them right now.

Seems odd because the cheap ones are definitely not medical grade. They
are good for finding hot spots and relative temperature differences but
I don't think they are terribly accurate. I would be concerned if anyone
was screening for disease with a $25 Harbor Freight thermometer.

Allan


Max Dillon via Mercedes  writes:

> Bad wheel bearing will be hot, or at least warmer than the other good
> bearing.  Don't burn your fingers!
>
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Re: [MBZ] FW: 1979 Mercedes-Benz 450 SLC - "Good Shape"?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

could go a million miles easy

--FT

On 5/15/20 11:46 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Good shape for it's age.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:14 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


This dude’s definition of “good shape” is quite different than mine.

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] For the crack haters on the list

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

you would be a total looser

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On 5/15/20 11:35 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:34 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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Just for fun and if I had unlimited cash, I would show up with 24999 $1
bills.


For extra fun, loose in a pillowcase.

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Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Peter wrote:

>-40 would take a two-stage system using pentane >as the second coolant.

>We had a -80 freezer at the hospital I worked in 40 >years ago.  Big beast.  
>I'm pretty sure grocery store >freezers are -10 Freon single stage.

When I worked at a food factory we had refrigeration that utilized ammonia as 
the refrigerant. I believe they were at -20 f.  It is quite effective as a 
refrigerant, but for obvious reasons cannot be used in a residential or 
automotive setting. 

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Re: [MBZ] OT Rx Glasses with progressive lenses

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I left two pair at Nationals Park after baseball games.  They were never
returned to the L  Must have been found by Phillies fans...

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 12:42 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Many years ago I realized that if I had an expensive pair of sunglasses I
> kept close track of them. As a result I think Ive had maybe 2-3 pairs of
> Ray-Bans over as many decades.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 15, 2020, at 10:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have lost four nice Ray-Ban sunglass pairs and really want to buy
> another
> > now that I paid my penance. Where's the best deal on these online?
> >
> > On Fri, May 15, 2020, 9:52 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I got some a coupla years ago, took a little while to get used to them
> >> as there is a small "sweet spot" for focus but once your brain figures
> >> that out it becomes just reflex.  I have noticed that walking you have
> >> to be careful as your peripheral vision, esp on stuff on the ground, is
> >> all messed up and I find myself tripping over things that either I don't
> >> perceive, or seem like they are somewhere else.  If the terrain is rough
> >> or unfamiliar I find myself looking directly down at wherever I am
> walking.
> >>
> >> I had some old Rayban shooters with a broken leg, the girl at the
> >> optical shop got a new leg on the frames and got lenses made for them so
> >> I managed to recycle a really nice frame that I have had for 35 years.
> >> Getting a second set of lenses was a small bump on the cost, kind of a
> >> 2fer deal
> >>
> >> --FT
> >>
> >> On 5/14/20 9:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> I’ve used progressives for several years now. I have bought form Zenni,
> >> 39DollarGlasses, and Costco.
> >>>
> >>> As Allan says, PD it super critical, because it establishes the
> “center’
> >> of the lens relative to the parts that are ground to change as you look
> up
> >> or down. If you PD is off, it will mess with your vision something
> terrible
> >> - I found out the hard way with a pair of glasses from 39DollarGlasses
> that
> >> I goofed up my   PD on. Fortunately, the online places will give you a
> >> replacement with any changes necessary to correct things.
> >>>
> >>> I like 39DollarGlasses best out of the two online places I’ve used.
> >> They’re a little more expensive than Zenni but i liked their selection
> >> better and they don’t nickel and dime you with a billion different
> options
> >> at the end like Zenni does.
> >>>
> >>> You’ll find that most optometrists don’t give you a PD on your
> >> prescription because it’s not measured until your fitted for glasses.
> >> Here’s what I’ve done:
> >>>
> >>> I get my eyes examined annually, as that’s what my insurance will pay
> >> for. I take the script and go to Costco, as they almost always have a
> deal
> >> going on for a discount. I find a nice set of frames and get fitted.
> >> They’ll give you a full printout with your prescription on it along with
> >> their measurements for your PD.
> >>>
> >>> Take your Costco paperwork and use that to order your online glasses.
> >> That way you know you’ve got accurate measurements.
> >>>
> >>> I like prescription sunglasses, but I don’t care about designer frames
> >> or any of that garbage. So I usually choose a set of sunglasses online
> as
> >> well as a really basic set of plastic frames that I wear when I work in
> the
> >> garage or yard. The last set I bought from Zenni were under $50 for a
> set
> >> of basic frames with progressive lenses. I think the sunglasses I got
> were
> >> around $100.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
>  On May 14, 2020, at 9:13 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  Meade Dillon via Mercedes  writes:
> 
> > So, who has tried progressive lens glasses from some of those
> discount
> > online places like Zenni Optical?  Any other places I should try?
>  I got progressive lenses from Zenni. Be sure the optometrist gives you
>  your pupilary distance (distance between the centers of your pupils),
>  they will need it to get the center of focus right, especially if you
>  have a stong prescription and need high-index lenses. This was not on
> my
>  prescription so I did my best with a ruler and looking in the mirror.
> 
>  The lenses were fine, but while working in the garage I got a little
>  splash of brake cleaner or something on one lens. Left a cloudy,
> crazed
>  spot in the anti-glare coating. I'm a cheapskate so I just lived with
>  it.
> 
>  Also the frames I chose ended up being pretty weak and broke in less
>  than a year.
> 
>  I'm back to contacts with drug-store reading glasses.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I suspect it makes a bigger deal in the off times where there are few people 
in the store.
I put LED strip lights in my gun cabinet with a pressure switch so they come on 
when I open the door. Works sweet.
-Curt

On Friday, May 15, 2020, 12:52:28 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Since LED is supposed to be so efficient I would not think that much 
considering there are people walking by all the time. 

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> On May 15, 2020, at 11:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I noticed that Publix, the high end grocery chain in the SouthEast, is 
> equipping their freezer sections with LED lights and motion detection. When 
> you walk by the coolers the lights turn on. Move away, they turn off.
> 
> I wonder how much money this has saved them after the cost of the lighting?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 15, 2020, at 12:43 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> A store freezer is a much different animal than a home freezer. First, it
>> is going to be 3 phase power, with high horsepower motors to drive  large
>> compressors which use industrial cooling,  gasses.
>> Second, the temp will be set quite low to accommodate the shoppers constant
>> opening the large doors and standing with them open for minutes, or failing
>> to close them carefully. Thus, the temps are set to "overkill" to keep
>> product firmly frozen.
>> 
>> Your home unit, at worst case, is opened perhaps two times a day, often
>> perhaps two times per week. so "cold soak" is not interrupted.
>> 
>> Pre plan ice cream use, set it on counter for 15 minutes before dipping
>> with a warmed scoup.. you should be good.
>> 
>>> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 9:24 AM OK Don via Mercedes 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm skeptical that a store freezer was really at -40F. I'd bet on a broken
>>> thermometer.
>>> Please let us know what you learn and decide on.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:26 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Craig, I'm looking for a solution, best so far is maybe my freezer is too
 cold.  However, one grocery store freezer was at -40, so I'm sceptical
>>> that
 is the issue, and I'm not sure that setting our freezer at 10 to 15 deg F
 will be acceptable to SWMBO.
 
 I guess I will have to RTFM (instructions on ice cream container) or
>>> maybe
 contact the maker.  Then I will be the list expert on frozen desserts.
 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 May 15, 2020 12:33:25 AM Craig via Mercedes :
 
>    On Thu, 14 May 2020 20:49:06 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>      I haven't gotten any satisfactory answers yet.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
>    So how do you define a satisfactory answer? Are we to have a
 guessing
> 
> contest until we hit upon your answer, or do you want realistic
> 
> suggestions like you already have gotten?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>      Maybe I should offer a free jar of Andrew's artisanal pepper
 jelly?
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
>    No.
> 
> 
> 
>    Craig
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>>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>>> 
>>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
>>> Wernher
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Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Since LED is supposed to be so efficient I would not think that much 
considering there are people walking by all the time. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 15, 2020, at 11:48 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I noticed that Publix, the high end grocery chain in the SouthEast, is 
> equipping their freezer sections with LED lights and motion detection. When 
> you walk by the coolers the lights turn on. Move away, they turn off.
> 
> I wonder how much money this has saved them after the cost of the lighting?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 15, 2020, at 12:43 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> A store freezer is a much different animal than a home freezer. First, it
>> is going to be 3 phase power, with high horsepower motors to drive  large
>> compressors which use industrial cooling,  gasses.
>> Second, the temp will be set quite low to accommodate the shoppers constant
>> opening the large doors and standing with them open for minutes, or failing
>> to close them carefully. Thus, the temps are set to "overkill" to keep
>> product firmly frozen.
>> 
>> Your home unit, at worst case, is opened perhaps two times a day, often
>> perhaps two times per week. so "cold soak" is not interrupted.
>> 
>> Pre plan ice cream use, set it on counter for 15 minutes before dipping
>> with a warmed scoup.. you should be good.
>> 
>>> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 9:24 AM OK Don via Mercedes 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm skeptical that a store freezer was really at -40F. I'd bet on a broken
>>> thermometer.
>>> Please let us know what you learn and decide on.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:26 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Craig, I'm looking for a solution, best so far is maybe my freezer is too
 cold.  However, one grocery store freezer was at -40, so I'm sceptical
>>> that
 is the issue, and I'm not sure that setting our freezer at 10 to 15 deg F
 will be acceptable to SWMBO.
 
 I guess I will have to RTFM (instructions on ice cream container) or
>>> maybe
 contact the maker.  Then I will be the list expert on frozen desserts.
 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 May 15, 2020 12:33:25 AM Craig via Mercedes :
 
> On Thu, 14 May 2020 20:49:06 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>  I haven't gotten any satisfactory answers yet.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
>So how do you define a satisfactory answer? Are we to have a
 guessing
> 
> contest until we hit upon your answer, or do you want realistic
> 
> suggestions like you already have gotten?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>  Maybe I should offer a free jar of Andrew's artisanal pepper
 jelly?
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
>No.
> 
> 
> 
>Craig
> 
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>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I noticed that Publix, the high end grocery chain in the SouthEast, is 
equipping their freezer sections with LED lights and motion detection. When you 
walk by the coolers the lights turn on. Move away, they turn off.

I wonder how much money this has saved them after the cost of the lighting?

-D

> On May 15, 2020, at 12:43 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> A store freezer is a much different animal than a home freezer. First, it
> is going to be 3 phase power, with high horsepower motors to drive  large
> compressors which use industrial cooling,  gasses.
> Second, the temp will be set quite low to accommodate the shoppers constant
> opening the large doors and standing with them open for minutes, or failing
> to close them carefully. Thus, the temps are set to "overkill" to keep
> product firmly frozen.
> 
> Your home unit, at worst case, is opened perhaps two times a day, often
> perhaps two times per week. so "cold soak" is not interrupted.
> 
> Pre plan ice cream use, set it on counter for 15 minutes before dipping
> with a warmed scoup.. you should be good.
> 
> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 9:24 AM OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> I'm skeptical that a store freezer was really at -40F. I'd bet on a broken
>> thermometer.
>> Please let us know what you learn and decide on.
>> 
>> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:26 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Craig, I'm looking for a solution, best so far is maybe my freezer is too
>>> cold.  However, one grocery store freezer was at -40, so I'm sceptical
>> that
>>> is the issue, and I'm not sure that setting our freezer at 10 to 15 deg F
>>> will be acceptable to SWMBO.
>>> 
>>> I guess I will have to RTFM (instructions on ice cream container) or
>> maybe
>>> contact the maker.  Then I will be the list expert on frozen desserts.
>>> 
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> May 15, 2020 12:33:25 AM Craig via Mercedes :
>>> 
  On Thu, 14 May 2020 20:49:06 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
 
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
>   I haven't gotten any satisfactory answers yet.
> 
> 
> 
 
 So how do you define a satisfactory answer? Are we to have a
>>> guessing
 
 contest until we hit upon your answer, or do you want realistic
 
 suggestions like you already have gotten?
 
 
 
 
 
 
>   Maybe I should offer a free jar of Andrew's artisanal pepper
>>> jelly?
> 
> 
> 
 
 No.
 
 
 
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>> --
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>> 
>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>> 
>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
>> Wernher
>> Von Braun
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>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Grocery stores have a whole “compressor room”
As we called it. It’s a big room with all of the compressors for all the 
different units in one place. It sounds like the engine room of a ship when you 
are in there.  Each freezer or refrigerator case does not have a compressor at 
the unit like a home freezer does. 

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> On May 15, 2020, at 11:44 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> A store freezer is a much different animal than a home freezer. First, it
> is going to be 3 phase power, with high horsepower motors to drive  large
> compressors which use industrial cooling,  gasses.
> Second, the temp will be set quite low to accommodate the shoppers constant
> opening the large doors and standing with them open for minutes, or failing
> to close them carefully. Thus, the temps are set to "overkill" to keep
> product firmly frozen.
> 
> Your home unit, at worst case, is opened perhaps two times a day, often
> perhaps two times per week. so "cold soak" is not interrupted.
> 
> Pre plan ice cream use, set it on counter for 15 minutes before dipping
> with a warmed scoup.. you should be good.
> 
>> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 9:24 AM OK Don via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm skeptical that a store freezer was really at -40F. I'd bet on a broken
>> thermometer.
>> Please let us know what you learn and decide on.
>> 
>> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:26 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Craig, I'm looking for a solution, best so far is maybe my freezer is too
>>> cold.  However, one grocery store freezer was at -40, so I'm sceptical
>> that
>>> is the issue, and I'm not sure that setting our freezer at 10 to 15 deg F
>>> will be acceptable to SWMBO.
>>> 
>>> I guess I will have to RTFM (instructions on ice cream container) or
>> maybe
>>> contact the maker.  Then I will be the list expert on frozen desserts.
>>> 
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> May 15, 2020 12:33:25 AM Craig via Mercedes :
>>> 
  On Thu, 14 May 2020 20:49:06 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
 
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
>   I haven't gotten any satisfactory answers yet.
> 
> 
> 
 
 So how do you define a satisfactory answer? Are we to have a
>>> guessing
 
 contest until we hit upon your answer, or do you want realistic
 
 suggestions like you already have gotten?
 
 
 
 
 
 
>   Maybe I should offer a free jar of Andrew's artisanal pepper
>>> jelly?
> 
> 
> 
 
 No.
 
 
 
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>> 
>> --
>> OK Don
>> 
>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>> 
>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
>> Wernher
>> Von Braun
>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb Car Alert!!

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Pass

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> On May 15, 2020, at 11:39 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> And right in my neighborhood!
> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/valrico-1999-mercedes-benz-s320-lwb/7124538612.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft

[G Mann via Mercedes]

A store freezer is a much different animal than a home freezer. First, it
is going to be 3 phase power, with high horsepower motors to drive  large
compressors which use industrial cooling,  gasses.
Second, the temp will be set quite low to accommodate the shoppers constant
opening the large doors and standing with them open for minutes, or failing
to close them carefully. Thus, the temps are set to "overkill" to keep
product firmly frozen.

Your home unit, at worst case, is opened perhaps two times a day, often
perhaps two times per week. so "cold soak" is not interrupted.

Pre plan ice cream use, set it on counter for 15 minutes before dipping
with a warmed scoup.. you should be good.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 9:24 AM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I'm skeptical that a store freezer was really at -40F. I'd bet on a broken
> thermometer.
> Please let us know what you learn and decide on.
>
> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:26 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Craig, I'm looking for a solution, best so far is maybe my freezer is too
> > cold.  However, one grocery store freezer was at -40, so I'm sceptical
> that
> > is the issue, and I'm not sure that setting our freezer at 10 to 15 deg F
> > will be acceptable to SWMBO.
> >
> > I guess I will have to RTFM (instructions on ice cream container) or
> maybe
> > contact the maker.  Then I will be the list expert on frozen desserts.
> >
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> > May 15, 2020 12:33:25 AM Craig via Mercedes :
> >
> > >   On Thu, 14 May 2020 20:49:06 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> > >
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >I haven't gotten any satisfactory answers yet.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >  So how do you define a satisfactory answer? Are we to have a
> > guessing
> > >
> > > contest until we hit upon your answer, or do you want realistic
> > >
> > > suggestions like you already have gotten?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >Maybe I should offer a free jar of Andrew's artisanal pepper
> > jelly?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >  No.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Craig
> > >
> > >
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>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Rx Glasses with progressive lenses

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Many years ago I realized that if I had an expensive pair of sunglasses I kept 
close track of them. As a result I think Ive had maybe 2-3 pairs of Ray-Bans 
over as many decades.

-D

> On May 15, 2020, at 10:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have lost four nice Ray-Ban sunglass pairs and really want to buy another
> now that I paid my penance. Where's the best deal on these online?
> 
> On Fri, May 15, 2020, 9:52 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I got some a coupla years ago, took a little while to get used to them
>> as there is a small "sweet spot" for focus but once your brain figures
>> that out it becomes just reflex.  I have noticed that walking you have
>> to be careful as your peripheral vision, esp on stuff on the ground, is
>> all messed up and I find myself tripping over things that either I don't
>> perceive, or seem like they are somewhere else.  If the terrain is rough
>> or unfamiliar I find myself looking directly down at wherever I am walking.
>> 
>> I had some old Rayban shooters with a broken leg, the girl at the
>> optical shop got a new leg on the frames and got lenses made for them so
>> I managed to recycle a really nice frame that I have had for 35 years.
>> Getting a second set of lenses was a small bump on the cost, kind of a
>> 2fer deal
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> On 5/14/20 9:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I’ve used progressives for several years now. I have bought form Zenni,
>> 39DollarGlasses, and Costco.
>>> 
>>> As Allan says, PD it super critical, because it establishes the “center’
>> of the lens relative to the parts that are ground to change as you look up
>> or down. If you PD is off, it will mess with your vision something terrible
>> - I found out the hard way with a pair of glasses from 39DollarGlasses that
>> I goofed up my   PD on. Fortunately, the online places will give you a
>> replacement with any changes necessary to correct things.
>>> 
>>> I like 39DollarGlasses best out of the two online places I’ve used.
>> They’re a little more expensive than Zenni but i liked their selection
>> better and they don’t nickel and dime you with a billion different options
>> at the end like Zenni does.
>>> 
>>> You’ll find that most optometrists don’t give you a PD on your
>> prescription because it’s not measured until your fitted for glasses.
>> Here’s what I’ve done:
>>> 
>>> I get my eyes examined annually, as that’s what my insurance will pay
>> for. I take the script and go to Costco, as they almost always have a deal
>> going on for a discount. I find a nice set of frames and get fitted.
>> They’ll give you a full printout with your prescription on it along with
>> their measurements for your PD.
>>> 
>>> Take your Costco paperwork and use that to order your online glasses.
>> That way you know you’ve got accurate measurements.
>>> 
>>> I like prescription sunglasses, but I don’t care about designer frames
>> or any of that garbage. So I usually choose a set of sunglasses online as
>> well as a really basic set of plastic frames that I wear when I work in the
>> garage or yard. The last set I bought from Zenni were under $50 for a set
>> of basic frames with progressive lenses. I think the sunglasses I got were
>> around $100.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On May 14, 2020, at 9:13 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Meade Dillon via Mercedes  writes:
 
> So, who has tried progressive lens glasses from some of those discount
> online places like Zenni Optical?  Any other places I should try?
 I got progressive lenses from Zenni. Be sure the optometrist gives you
 your pupilary distance (distance between the centers of your pupils),
 they will need it to get the center of focus right, especially if you
 have a stong prescription and need high-index lenses. This was not on my
 prescription so I did my best with a ruler and looking in the mirror.
 
 The lenses were fine, but while working in the garage I got a little
 splash of brake cleaner or something on one lens. Left a cloudy, crazed
 spot in the anti-glare coating. I'm a cheapskate so I just lived with
 it.
 
 Also the frames I chose ended up being pretty weak and broke in less
 than a year.
 
 I'm back to contacts with drug-store reading glasses.
 
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>> 
>> 

Re: [MBZ] OT hard ice cream vs soft

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

-40 would take a two-stage system using pentane as the second coolant.

We had a -80 freezer at the hospital I worked in 40 years ago.  Big beast.  I'm 
pretty sure grocery store freezers are -10 Freon single stage.
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