Re: [MBZ] Corona Virus and the price of Diesel

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HA HA HA!

"Bring oot yer DED!"
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> Lyme Disease!!!
>
> --FT
>
> On 1/29/20 2:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > A lime? That’s what I thought when I first heard about it…
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >> On Jan 29, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> What goes best with Coronavirus?
> >>
> >> --FT
> >>
> >> On 1/29/20 10:52 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Will the price at the pump go down?
> >> --
> >> --FT
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Corona Virus and the price of Diesel

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I paid $1.99 for diesel just a couple days ago.  That was nice, ~20.5
gallons into my '95 E300.
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On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 10:53 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> Will the price at the pump go down?
>
> ENERGY MARKETSCoronavirus lockdown is even more bad news for
> dieselPublished:
> Wednesday, January 29, 2020
>
> Add a severe global pathogen to the list of bad news for diesel.
>
> Two metrics for the industrial fuel that traders watch closely — its
> premium against crude, and a gauge of supply and demand — have collapsed
> this year. For the most part, the rout has been about weaker-than-expected
> buying from the shipping industry and a mild winter. The novel coronavirus
> in China, though, has exacerbated the slide because it's meant a clampdown
> on travel that's negative for fuel demand, and a weakening of investor
> sentiment across assets.
>
> The lockdown of cities in China likely means weaker demand for diesel, said
> Olivier Jakob, the managing director of Petromatrix GmbH in Zug,
> Switzerland. The margin, or crack, for jet fuel, has also been adversely
> affected. Both fuels are known as distillates.
>
> "The impact of coronavirus translates into global pressure on distillate
> cracks and the prices," Jakob said.
>
> Oil refiners were making $9.83 a barrel from turning crude oil into diesel
> on Monday, the lowest in almost two years, ICE Futures Europe data show.
> Late last year, the same spread stood at about $15. Traders are paying
> about $1.75 a ton less for diesel in February than for March, compared to a
> $3 premium late last year.
>
> There's similar weakness in the jet fuel market. The two products are
> closely related. Profits for producing jet fuel in Asia fell to the lowest
> in nearly four years after a spate of travel restrictions and flight
> cancellations.
>
> "Slowing air traffic has clearly dented Chinese jet fuel demand over recent
> days," RBC Capital Markets analysts including Michael Tran said in a Jan.
> 27 research note. Jet fuel has been the firmest part of China's oil demand
> growth in recent years, averaging about 11% a year, according to Tran.
>
> The fuels are getting hit across the globe. Diesel margins in New York sank
> to an 18-month low Monday, with concerns about the virus exacerbating the
> impact of a mild winter that already curtailed demand.
>
> "There's very little good news when it comes to the middle distillate part
> of the barrel," said Steve Sawyer, director of refining at FGE, an energy
> consultancy.
>
> Looking forward, planned work at refineries in the Middle East — a region
> that sends a lot of middle distillate to Europe — should provide some
> support, he said. That will be followed by seasonal maintenance in the U.S.
> and Europe. *— Jack Wittels, Bloomberg*
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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

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That's a better idea, add that to my '95 E300 to increase range so when we
have to bug out WTSHTF, then we'll be able to get deep into 'Merica.
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> or you could use the tank for emergency fuel (for car or generator)  or
> to extend range of a diesel.
>
> I have a 30 gal Diesel tank out back I keep for hurricane fuel. (or
> other emergencies)
>
> > Meade Dillon via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > January 29, 2020 at 8:41 AM
> > I could never resell that, it must go into the trash instead of
> destroying
> > another fine MB diesel.
> > -
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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

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I could never resell that, it must go into the trash instead of destroying
another fine MB diesel.
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> what is a "veg oil conversion kit" worth to the fakebuch morons?
>
> > Meade Dillon via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > January 29, 2020 at 7:51 AM
> > Send me the number, I'll give them a call and offer $300 if the catalytic
> > converter / muffler is any good and they have receipt for the new
> > injectors.
> > -
> > Max
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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

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Send me the number, I'll give them a call and offer $300 if the catalytic
converter / muffler is any good and they have receipt for the new
injectors.
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On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 7:41 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> I went to look at this dead car. Looked nice except for hood clear coat
> was gone. Interior nice. I lift up the ashtray door and see this panel with
> a temp gauge and a big switch that says VEG OIL. WTF.
>
> I look in the trunk and there’s a tank and plumbing, heating lines or
> something. I ask the woman she says they added the veg oil thing in like
> 2005. Collected and filtered restaurant oil and used that. I suggested this
> was why the car was dead. She said some mech replaced the injectors but
> it’s still no go. I suggested this was why the engine was dead, maybe the
> injection pump or whatever. It's dead, Jim.
>
> I offered $300 thinking I could put the smashed car engine in this car and
> have another nice E300. It’s not a turbo and the veg stuff would have to go
> so I guess that would be some challenge.
>
> She said someone else was coming to look at it so declined my offer but
> has my info.
>
> I picked up the 99 E300 today, battery needs to be charged. Will see what
> the story is with it. I hate the white/beige.
>
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Re: [MBZ] 124 rear subframe

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Bravo!  Did you install new rear sub-frame bushings?  How did that go?
Threaded rod and washers and socket?
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>
>
> By the way, the rear brake lines are 18" Left, and 33 " right.   I used
> 18" and 36" premade lines.   ABS, but not limited slip.
>
> The subframe is in.  Yay!
>
> I put the assembled subframe on a heavy sheet of cardboard, then slid it
> under.
>
> I made a wood platform to hold the subframe without Diff and axles that
> would balance it on the floor jack.  It worked like a charm.  I was able
> to slide the jack under the platform under the car.   I jacked the
> subframe up and into place, making a few adjustments on the way.  The
> right side was a little higher, so I started bolts on that side first,
> then went to the left side; jacked it up a couple strokes, then started
> those bolts; checked alignment; then tightened it up.
>
> I have pictures of the subframe with the platform   It worked slick as
> snot!
>
> The LCAs have new bushings in, so those and the springs are next.  I was
> going to replace the pinion seal on the diff, so I need to make some way
> to hold the axles stubs in place so I can get the yoke off to replace
> the seal.
>
> Then the axles and diff go in.
>
> Then calipers and bleeding the brakes
> hookup emergency brake
> bolt on driveshaft
> put up the back 2/3 of the exhaust
> and it should be ready!
>
> Supposed to rain all day tomorrow, so probably nothing will happen until
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Re: [MBZ] 1995 E300 mono-valve replacement

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Craig - here is the URL for the duovalve repair.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/242566-how-i-fixed-my-duovalve-w210-got-my-heat-back-saved-myself-$250.html

At the very end someone posted screenshots of the original thread with the
original pictures.
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Max
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On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 3:30 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 13:38:43 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Yesterday I installed the new monovalve, which is the version for a
> > gasser 124.  This version does not have the bypass of the heater core
> > plumbed in the same manner.  I'm still not entirely sure why MB
> > designed the coolant flow circuit they way they did.  New valve works
> > great, there is still sort of a bypass via the heating loop for the
> > wiper washer bottle.
> >
> > I used a 3/4" OD copper pipe to replace the "Y" pipe on the driver's
> > side, so that bypass feed is eliminated.
> >
> > On my 1994 gasser wagon, which uses the same mono-valve as the
> > replacement I had purchased for the diesel, there is the same "Y" pipe
> > and a bypass, but that bypass feeder goes to the washer bottle heating
> > loop.  After it leaves the washer bottle loop, it goes to the
> > mono-valve as the same point as my diesel car.  Basically this means
> > that on the diesel, there were two bypass loops, one via the washer
> > bottle and one via a straight feed into the mono-valve.
>
> Congratulations on your success!
>
> Pictures, please!
>
>
> > I found a thread on Peach Parts where a fellow opened up a monovalve,
> > and using hardware store plumbing bits, replaced the failed rubber bits
> > and restored function.  I just may try that with this old original
> > monovalve.
>
> URL, please!
>
>
> > Found a new coolant leak, at the base of the circulation motor which is
> > built into the monovalve, hopefully that is just a bad seal that I can
> > reproduce.  If the plastic housing is cracked, maybe a JB Weld repair.
> > we'll see.
>
> Oh, oh. May you be able to repair it properly.
>
>
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[MBZ] 1995 E300 mono-valve replacement

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Yesterday I installed the new monovalve, which is the version for a gasser
124.  This version does not have the bypass of the heater core plumbed in
the same manner.  I'm still not entirely sure why MB designed the coolant
flow circuit they way they did.  New valve works great, there is still sort
of a bypass via the heating loop for the wiper washer bottle.

I used a 3/4" OD copper pipe to replace the "Y" pipe on the driver's side,
so that bypass feed is eliminated.

On my 1994 gasser wagon, which uses the same mono-valve as the replacement
I had purchased for the diesel, there is the same "Y" pipe and a bypass,
but that bypass feeder goes to the washer bottle heating loop.  After it
leaves the washer bottle loop, it goes to the mono-valve as the same point
as my diesel car.  Basically this means that on the diesel, there were two
bypass loops, one via the washer bottle and one via a straight feed into
the mono-valve.

Despite the mystery reason for the extra bypass line, the new monovalve is
working great, making hot or cold as required.

I found a thread on Peach Parts where a fellow opened up a monovalve, and
using hardware store plumbing bits, replaced the failed rubber bits and
restored function.  I just may try that with this old original monovalve.
Found a new coolant leak, at the base of the circulation motor which is
built into the monovalve, hopefully that is just a bad seal that I can
reproduce.  If the plastic housing is cracked, maybe a JB Weld repair.
we'll see.
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Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] 1994 E320 (M104) No-Start

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Well I bought some starter fluid, and then immediately tried it and
the car started right up and stayed running.  I wish I had tried to
start without using the starter fluid to make sure it was still a
"no-start" condition.

Once started, the CE light was no longer lit.  I put on my code reader
at the diagnostic plug, got a few codes at pins 8 and 14, mostly
errors in communications between various gasser modules which are
mysterious to me.  Cleared all the codes.  Shut down the car, and it
immediately re-started no issues, no CE light.

Waited a bit, and then it would not start.  Tried to listen for the
fuel pump, could not hear anything when the ignition was turned on
(should the pump run all the time when the ignition is turned on, or
does it run for just a bit to build pressure, or does it wait to run
until the starter is cranking?).

I tapped on the relay for the fuel pump, made no difference.  Gave it
another shot of go juice, and it started with difficulty, actually it
took two shots of go juice.

Got down next to the car at the fuel pump, I think I could hear it
running, also observed a drip of fuel, so need to pull off that cover
and see what's leaking.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jan 26, 2020 7:36:11 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes :


> Inline spark tester is a beautiful thing. I don't remember what I paid for 
> mine but it's absolutely worth it.
> Curt
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> On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 6:57 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote: On Sun, 26 Jan 2020 21:59:20 + (UTC) Max Dillon via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
>
> >
> > Thanks Curt, that's a simple test. I don't have any starter fluid, have
> > to buy some.
> >
>
> Yes, you may use starting fluid on a gasoline engine ...
>
> I was going to suggest testing for spark as well -- it used to be easy to
> do, just remove a plug wire, put a screwdriver in the boot so it contacts
> the metal contact and hold it near some metal.
>
> With the high-energy system those cars have, however, I am not entirely
> sure that is how to do it.
>
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Re: [MBZ] In the mean time this is what is available semi close to me

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Looks decent but price seems maybe a little high.
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> 1996 Mercedes Benz
>
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> https://dallas.craigslist.org/mdf/cto/d/euless-1996-mercedes-benz/7063407890.html
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[MBZ] 1994 E320 (M104) No-Start

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What are the most common causes of a no-start condition?
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Re: [MBZ] Caulk tube cap

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OK, I'm convinced!  I'll try this as well.  I've used other methods with
varying degrees of success (sandwich bad and rubber bands - worked OK but
time-consuming to find the parts in the house, store-bought caps - worked
on a couple tubes then broke off).
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Max
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> > > Max wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Hmm, I thought the threads inside a wire nut are a spring. I'm
> > > sceptical that will be a good seal.
>
> Well - try it!  Or don't.
>
> > FT wrote:
>
> > The big ones are just threaded plastic
>
> The ones I used are both.  Threads molded into the plastic the
> whole inside.  Then a steel spring way down in the tip.  I'm
> pretty sure on the tubes I used it on the steel isn't contacting
> anything.
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Re: [MBZ] Booting the axle

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Are you working on 124 or 123 axles?  In order to use the factory tool /
parts on 123 boots, you need to destroy / remove the can, and then affix a
new can which requires a special tool to roll the edge and make a seal.
I've heard of skilled DIYers that have rolled the edge with hand tools and
gotten the job done without the special tool.  There was an MB garage here
in Mt. Plastic that had the special tool, and quoted me hundreds of dollars
per axle to re-boot.  A used axle with good boots at $25 or $50 was a much
better deal.

No idea on the 124, might be similar?
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>
> I wanna look again at the parts diagram and see if there is a way to
> reboot with MB boots.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 124 cab on BAT

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Nope, sold at $13k.  Well bought I think.
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On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 4:01 PM Meade Dillon  wrote:

> $13k, bidding war has commenced?
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>
>
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 3:41 PM Meade Dillon  wrote:
>
>> $11k now, 18 minutes to go.
>> -
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>> Charleston SC
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 3:15 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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>>
>>> I was thinking $14-18k.
>>> $10k with 45 minutes left, so I may have been right.
>>> Mitch.
>>>
>>> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>> > Not an interesting color combo so the price seems fair.
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] 124 cab on BAT

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$13k, bidding war has commenced?
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On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 3:41 PM Meade Dillon  wrote:

> $11k now, 18 minutes to go.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 3:15 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I was thinking $14-18k.
>> $10k with 45 minutes left, so I may have been right.
>> Mitch.
>>
>> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> > Not an interesting color combo so the price seems fair.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 124 cab on BAT

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$11k now, 18 minutes to go.
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> I was thinking $14-18k.
> $10k with 45 minutes left, so I may have been right.
> Mitch.
>
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > Not an interesting color combo so the price seems fair.
>
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Re: [MBZ] So beyond OT: EOT

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Meh.  Blondy wrote a song about that guy, heart of glass.  Guess she never
got to his brains.
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> Extremely off topic but nonetheless fascinating.  Also macabre and
> potentially upsetting for those with a delicate constitution.
>
> ITALYMount Vesuvius blast turned ancient victim's brain to glassPublished:
> Thursday, January 23, 2020
>
> The eruption of Mount Vesuvius turned an incinerated victim's brain
> material into glass, the first time scientists have verified the phenomenon
> from a volcanic blast, officials at the Herculaneum archaeology site said
> today.
>
> Archaeologists rarely recover human brain tissue, and when they do it is
> normally smooth and soapy in consistency, according to an article detailing
> the discovery in *The New England Journal of Medicine*. The eruption of
> Vesuvius in the year 79 instantly killed the inhabitants of Pompeii and
> neighboring Herculaneum, burying an area 12 miles from the volcano in ash
> in just a few hours.
>
> The remains of a man lying on a wooden bed were discovered at Herculaneum,
> closer to Vesuvius than Pompeii, in the 1960s. He is believed to have been
> the custodian of a place of worship, the Collegium Augustalium.
>
> A team led by Pier Paolo Petrone, a forensic anthropologist at the
> University of Naples Federico II, determined that the victim's brain matter
> had been vitrified, a process by which tissue is burned at a high heat and
> turned into glass, according to the study. The fragments presented as
> shards of shiny black material spotted within remnants of the victim's
> skull.
>
> A study of the charred wood nearby indicates a maximum temperature of 968
> degrees Fahrenheit.
>
> "This suggests that extreme radiant heat was able to ignite body fat and
> vaporize soft tissue," the study said.
>
> The resulting solidified spongy mass found in the victim's chest bones is
> also unique among other archaeological sites and can be compared with
> victims of more recent historic events like the firebombing of Dresden and
> Hamburg in World War II, the article said.
>
> The flash of extreme heat was followed by a rapid drop in temperatures,
> which vitrified the brain material, the authors said.
>
> "This is the first time ever that vitrified human brain remains have been
> discovered resulting from heat produced by an eruption," Herculaneum
> officials said. *— Associated Press*
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Re: [MBZ] BatteryMINDer 12117TC on sale today

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Well that's nice!  I tried to order it yesterday, but for some reason the
website crashed and my order did not go through.  Just ordered it now, save
another buck.
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> Looks like the price went down a dollar.
>
> Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> > Northern Tool has the BatteryMINDer 12117TC Battery Charger/Trickle
> > Charger/Desulfator on sale today for $19.99, which is $40.00 off.
> >
> > https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200332201_200332201
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Re: [MBZ] Evil not Knievel

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He needed that car that was equipped with rocket boosters.
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> Wasn't this car equipped with an airbag(s)?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Use for old walkers

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Not ringing a bell for me, but I like the idea of using walkers for saw
horses.
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> A few years ago someone posted a clever use for old walkers.   Now a
> neighbor is throwing out a bunch of walkers, including the wheeled
> sit-down walkers and I can't remember what the use was.   Anyone remember?
>
> I was thinking 2 walkers and a slab of 3/4" plywood could make a
> portable bench.  Or 2 walkers could replace sawhorses.
>
> What other uses for old walkers can all you creative geniuses come up with?
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Re: [MBZ] 99 E300

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Sounds like a real cheap fix.  Nice!
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> OK in a quick research this seems to be the issue but will need to get
> the car to check and see:
>
>
> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/351031-w210-glow-plug-issue-97-e300d.html
>
> Looks like if the connector is not connecting then the IP won't pump any
> fuel, which is why the guy suspected the IP..  Damn wouldn't it be cool
> if it is just a bad connector!
>
> --FT
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> Quote:
> Originally Posted by *treiberg* View Post
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> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/351031-w210-glow-plug-issue-97-e300d.html#post3383292>
>
>
> Back to this issue again. Car has been running fine for several months,
> with only a few times where light wouldn't come on, but usually if we
> just waited an hour or two, we would finally get the glow plug light and
> then car would fire up. But now I cannot get glow plug light on and
> engine will not start without it. Here is a tally of what I have
> investigated:
>
> -glow plug resistance appears to be fine, all in the 0.6 to 0.8 ohm range
> -glow plug relay seems to be fine, at least I see it providing 12V to
> output blades when I energize it, and you can hear relay click
> -replaced the K40 relay
> -problem appears to be worse when engine or ambient is hot
>
> The problem appears to be that the signal to energize the relay is not
> working. I cannot consistently get 12v at the two input wires to the
> glow plug relay. My understanding is that this starts with the ignition
> switch, but it is also enabled by the temperature sensor located under
> the manifold. I wonder if this sensor has gone bad...??
>
> Also, I need to start the car to move it. So I figured if I just apply
> 12V to the input side of the glow plug relay, then it will pass power to
> the glow plugs and I will be able to start it after 10-15 seconds - sort
> of bypassing the electronics that send the 12v. However, when I do this
> the relay only pops on for 1-2 seconds and turns right back off again,
> not nearly enough time to energize those plugs to allow me to start. Is
> that relay somehow super smart and know that my 12v is different than
> the one from the ECU?
>
> If anyone out there has some input, or can even provide a wiring diagram
> for a 97 E210 E300D, that would really help.
>
> I went through this exact issue with my 97 a couple of weeks ago. First
> of all trying to hot wire the GP relay is not going to work because this
> GP relay is digitally controlled by the engine computer. Even if you
> manage to hotwire it, the computer won't allow fuel to the IP if it
> doesn't have clear communication with the GP relay. The GP relay has a
> PIC16 micro controller in it. There is a small 2 wire (3 pin) plug on
> the GP relay with a white and brown wire. Brown is ground and white is a
> data line from the engine computer. Grab that plug and wiggle it a bit.
> You'll see it has some play. The plug is poorly designed and
> intermittently cuts the data signal between the engine computer and GP
> relay.
>
> The solution is fairly simple. Solder your own wires to pins 1 and 2 of
> the 3 pin plug on the GP relay and use standard off the shelf plugs to
> securely plug it into the car's wiring harness (brown and white wires).
> Leave everything else the same. You will also need to connect to the
> OBD2 port and delete the stored code (P0380 i think).
>
> Heres an older thread where we discussed the issue and the fix.
> GP relay help - 1997 E300 om606.912
> <
> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/358272-gp-relay-help-1997-e300-om606-912-a-2.html
> >
>
> My car went from intermittent no start to totally reliable starts after
> this modification. MB issued a service bulletin about this very issue.
> Quote:
> SUBJECT: DEALER TECHNICAL BULLETIN 31/98
>
> 31/98-1 RECALLS AND SERVICE CAMPAIGNS: WHEN REPAIRING ANY VEHICLE,
> ALWAYS CHECK THE VEHICLE MASTER INQUIRY FOR OPEN CAMPAIGNS
>
> 31/98-3 GROUP 07 - ALL DIESELS AS OF MY 96 (210.020, 210.025): For
> conditions of code P1482 (preglow control module) in engine ECU, in
> addition to the tests outlined in Diagnostic Manual 1.1 and 1.2,*please
> check the electrical line and connectors between the preglow control
> module and the engine ECU (signal wire / ground and voltage supply) for
> possible intermittent contact, open contact, short to ground and / or
> power.* If all checks OK, replace preglow control module. These
> additional tests are necessary to obtain a more precise definition of
> code P1482. In case of warranty, please use Damage Code according to
> identified problem.
> H. Polz, Service Engineering
> HPdg 12-18-98
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 99 E300

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Nice!  Maybe a good driver to upgrade the Daughter Unit?
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> This car is pretty nice but I hate the white beige but whatever. Needs an
> interior cleaning but really not bad, upholstery good.  Good tires. 184k
> mi. A few little rusty ding spots on the paint On edges but easy enough to
> deal with, or not l.  I put the OBD reader on it the only code was Glow
> plug circuit A which probably means the GPs aren’t heating to start the
> car. H.
>
> Young guy selling it has a shop, needed a starter apparently which he put
> on. Spins but won’t fire. He thinks it’s the fuel pump or injection pump or
> something as he said it wasn’t getting fuel in any injectors.  Could just
> be GPS.  Worse deal I pull off the bits from the wrecked car.
>
> Something about being sent over from a transmission shop for the starter.
> Who knows, no codes for any trans issues, maybe whoever just left it there.
> But he got the title and a few dineros and a new battery in it so I guess
> it’s reasonable. He doesn’t have time to fool with it.
>
> $500 I’m picking it up tomorrow.
>
> --FT
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> > On Jan 22, 2020, at 7:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail <
> buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > It’s up in the Creek. Gonna go look at it tomorrow
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
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> >> On Jan 22, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> That does look like it's worth checking it out.  May even be the K40
> relay,
> >> which causes a no-start condition, fairly common problem.  I think the
> >> failure mode is engine cranks but IP is held in OFF so no fuel, no
> start.
> >> -
> >> Max
> >> Charleston SC
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 4:54 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> H I’ve got the smashed $500E300...  do some swap. don’t like white
> >>> much but it looks half nice.   $500 would be more like it...
> >>>
> >>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/172589444114706/
> >>>
> >>> 1200$
> >>> Needs injection pump or pump rebuild
> >>> Ran and drove perfect
> >>> Drivetrain good for 1million miles diesel
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] $500 Wagon Update, CE light is on now

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Well the intermittent no-start is no longer intermittent, it is full time.
Fortunately I've got three other diesel 124s that run just fine, so shift
to the easiest to get out of the drive and motor on.  I'll put the code
reader on it tonight and see if I can pull anything.
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Max
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> Mine have always been intermittent failures, which is why I suspect they
> didn’t throw codes. When I looked at the errors in SDS later on I could see
> the failures, but I assume they have to be permanent faults to trigger the
> CEL.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 22, 2020, at 7:49 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > My w211 E320 threw,a code.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 7:29 PM Craig via Mercedes 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 09:52:11 -0500 dan--- via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Of all the CPS failures I’ve seen, only one threw a CEL.
> >>
> >> I know CEL is Check Engine Light. What is CPS?
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mitch can pick up a Cruze cheap

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I've told this story before, I drove a cab in college, fellow cabby told me
this.  Details getting foggy, but here's the rough story.  Fellow driving
for a different company, same town, had two unrelated passengers in his
cab, a man and a woman.  Man starts harassing the woman, IIRC he was not
touching her but was very insistent that she submit to his charms.  Despite
request from both woman and driver to lay off, man continues.  Driver stops
cab, brandishes pistol and tells the man to get out.  Man gets out, calls
cops, and cabby gets arrested in the Peoples Republic of Madison WI.

A simple enough weapon was a couple athletic socks around a few rolls of
coins.  Perfectly legal to have coins, what if I need to make change?
Swing that correctly, connect with head or neck of the perpetrator, they
will probably decide to release the strangle hold.

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> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > So I guess the passenger was carrying some sort of weapon?
> >
> > I am skeptical given the vetting process for Lyft and Uber drivers...
> >
>
> All Uber and Lyft drivers (and riders) are contractually prevented from
> bearing
> arms. All sane Uber, Lyft, and taxi drivers are armed anyway.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Potential Kleb Car

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I should forget wagons and get this for towing my boat.
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> Probably bum linkage bushings.
>
>
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/palm-harbor-1991-mercedes-benz-350sd/7048049603.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Mitch can pick up a Cruze cheap

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Easy.  Criminal in back seat brandishes a weapon and demands some property
which belongs to the driver.  Any action the driver takes can be justified
as self defense.  If the criminal actually uses force, the driver's
response is also self defense.  For instance, criminal puts a knife to
driver's neck and asks for money.  Now you have capability (knife) and
intent (ask for $) and opportunity (close physical proximity).
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> Self defense?  How would this have played out with the passenger in the
> back seat?
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 7:37 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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>
> > The victim, identified in the report as a 51-year-old man, was found
> > unresponsive in the car’s back seat, the report said. He suffered
> apparent
> > gunshot wounds and was declared dead at the scene.
> >
> > Police have not determined whether the killing was an act of self defense
> > or
> > which ride-share service employed the driver. (but they've apparently
> > determined
> > that the guy who apparently attacked the driver is a "victim")
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Re: [MBZ] 99 E300

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That does look like it's worth checking it out.  May even be the K40 relay,
which causes a no-start condition, fairly common problem.  I think the
failure mode is engine cranks but IP is held in OFF so no fuel, no start.
-
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> H I’ve got the smashed $500E300...  do some swap. don’t like white
> much but it looks half nice.   $500 would be more like it...
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/172589444114706/
>
> 1200$
> Needs injection pump or pump rebuild
> Ran and drove perfect
> Drivetrain good for 1million miles diesel
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Life cycle costs for manufacturing waste, recycling for wind turbines

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We voters really are too damn lazy to really hold the political class
accountable, and so the only question becomes "What price a Senator?".

More and more of the stupid largess and outright wealth transfer needs to
be targeted and stopped.  Meanwhile we get "Impeachment" circus and never
ending campaign seasons to keep the masses distracted from the robbery.

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> All "Drink the Alternate Energy Koolaid" aside, I have yet to see any
> financial report that presents a viable Return on Investment where costs of
> build/install/land cost for a "wind farm" has returned a profit in actual
> energy produced and sold.
>
> Bottom line remains. If Government money were not thrown at projects for
> wind farms, they would fold instantly for lack of profit...
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 8:21 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > They (DOE) are part of the Deep State Department, until drained and
> > reclaimed for proper usage.
> >
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > Jan 21, 2020 9:53:30 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > >:
> >
> > > probably more appropriate to say "the Dept of Energy President Trump
> > > inherited." unless you can show us that the current president has
> > > appointed the majority of DOEnergy employees.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> > > > January 21, 2020 at 8:10 PM
> > > > Duh. Obviously, they are not appropriate everywhere. Like where there
> > is
> > > > no wind! All things considered, the glass is more than 1/2 full.
> > > >
> > > > Even coal-loving Trump's Dept. of Energy has good things to say about
> > wind
> > > > power.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: VW common rail TDI cold start

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Yes, nice when it all works.  Put in some extra crunches and pull ups for
me, I'm starting to get flabby again.
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Max
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On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 10:16 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> I wish I'd made a video. Headed to the gym this morning, the thermometer
> in the car (2015 VW Jetta TDI) reads 3F. I figure I'll glow once and see
> what it does. What it does is start perfectly. No drama at all it just
> starts the same as it did at 50F a couple weeks ago.
> I'm amazed by this car.
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] $500 Wagon Update, CE light is on now

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I think you're right, and I've made one of those.  Just took a look under
the hood, all I see is the square diagnostic port by the battery.

Also noticed a coolant leak at the "y" junction for the heater core bypass,
piece looks corroded, so maybe need to run by the LKQ to snag one of those.
-
Max
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> These require the use of the blinker light tool to read the codes.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 22, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not sure it even has an OBD port, I think is has the proprietary MB
> > diagnostic port.  I've got some learnin' ahead of me...
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> >> On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 8:53 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> That probably has only an OBD reader?  Get one of those cheap WiFi units
> >> that can talk to a phone app. Or we can try the fancy computer to see
> if it
> >> will talk to it.
> >>
> >> --FT
> >> Sent from iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jan 22, 2020, at 8:39 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> This week I'm driving the "new" 1994 E320 TE.  Yesterday the commute
> was
> >>> uneventful.  The front struts are totally flabby, so the car floats
> like
> >> a
> >>> 70's 'Mericun boat.  I may need Dramamine.  Heat and AC both work, this
> >>> week I need the heat.
> >>>
> >>> The coolant temp gauge has issues, starts out dead with the needle
> stuck
> >> at
> >>> cold, then it will jump to pegged, and then if I pound my fist on the
> >> dash,
> >>> it will drop and read normal after about ten minutes of driving.
> >>>
> >>> Today a new problem presented, Check Engine light came on with the
> first
> >>> start this a.m.  I've noted that fuel consumption appears to be very
> >> high,
> >>> only about 70 miles on the first full tank of fuel, and the needle says
> >>> about 3/8 of the tank is gone.  Occasionally when warm, she is also
> hard
> >> to
> >>> start, requiring several rounds of cranking before the engine will
> catch
> >>> and run.  Runs very smooth with plenty of power once started.
> >>>
> >>> Maybe the check engine light is telling me that the O2 sensors are
> dead?
> >>>
> >>> Occasional "no start" maybe a bad crank position sensor?
> >>> -
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Re: [MBZ] $500 Wagon Update, CE light is on now

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I'm not sure it even has an OBD port, I think is has the proprietary MB
diagnostic port.  I've got some learnin' ahead of me...
-
Max
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On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 8:53 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> That probably has only an OBD reader?  Get one of those cheap WiFi units
> that can talk to a phone app. Or we can try the fancy computer to see if it
> will talk to it.
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Jan 22, 2020, at 8:39 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > This week I'm driving the "new" 1994 E320 TE.  Yesterday the commute was
> > uneventful.  The front struts are totally flabby, so the car floats like
> a
> > 70's 'Mericun boat.  I may need Dramamine.  Heat and AC both work, this
> > week I need the heat.
> >
> > The coolant temp gauge has issues, starts out dead with the needle stuck
> at
> > cold, then it will jump to pegged, and then if I pound my fist on the
> dash,
> > it will drop and read normal after about ten minutes of driving.
> >
> > Today a new problem presented, Check Engine light came on with the first
> > start this a.m.  I've noted that fuel consumption appears to be very
> high,
> > only about 70 miles on the first full tank of fuel, and the needle says
> > about 3/8 of the tank is gone.  Occasionally when warm, she is also hard
> to
> > start, requiring several rounds of cranking before the engine will catch
> > and run.  Runs very smooth with plenty of power once started.
> >
> > Maybe the check engine light is telling me that the O2 sensors are dead?
> >
> > Occasional "no start" maybe a bad crank position sensor?
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
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[MBZ] Watch Out Dan & Manfred!

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

It may start raining iguanas.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/21/weather/miami-freeze-falling-iguana-forecast-trnd/index.html

"Don't be surprised if you see iguanas falling from the trees tonight,"
tweeted the Miami National Weather Service office.
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[MBZ] $500 Wagon Update, CE light is on now

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

This week I'm driving the "new" 1994 E320 TE.  Yesterday the commute was
uneventful.  The front struts are totally flabby, so the car floats like a
70's 'Mericun boat.  I may need Dramamine.  Heat and AC both work, this
week I need the heat.

The coolant temp gauge has issues, starts out dead with the needle stuck at
cold, then it will jump to pegged, and then if I pound my fist on the dash,
it will drop and read normal after about ten minutes of driving.

Today a new problem presented, Check Engine light came on with the first
start this a.m.  I've noted that fuel consumption appears to be very high,
only about 70 miles on the first full tank of fuel, and the needle says
about 3/8 of the tank is gone.  Occasionally when warm, she is also hard to
start, requiring several rounds of cranking before the engine will catch
and run.  Runs very smooth with plenty of power once started.

Maybe the check engine light is telling me that the O2 sensors are dead?

Occasional "no start" maybe a bad crank position sensor?
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Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] 124 Convenience Control Module

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Well I learned something new.  Dwight shared that holding the key in unlock
or lock position for 3 seconds will activate this feature.  I just tried
that on the '95 E300 I bought from Dan, works on that car.  Tried that on
my $500 '94 wagon, doesn't work, no surprise there as I know the central
locking system has issues.

I have read that on my cabriolet, if the windows are up when the top is
lower or raised, the windows will automagically lower a bit, and then
return to "up" once the top is fully up or fully down.
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Max
Charleston SC


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> I can check with current owner my buddy. My memory is that I had to turn
> the key
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 5:27 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > How long did you have to hold the key in position to activate it?
> >
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > Jan 20, 2020 5:01:04 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes  >:
> >
> > > My 90 300D 2.5 had that. Roll up windows & close sunroof with key in
> > > driver's door.
> > >
> > > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > > Wickford RI
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2020, 4:33 PM Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 10:54:26 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Has anyone heard of a 124 feature, whereby the windows can be
> lowered
> > > > > using the key in the driver's door?
> > > > >
> > > > > Is that an option, or was it standard on the later cars with the
> > subject
> > > > > line module?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Our '93 has a convenience control module, but I do not know what it
> > does.
> > > >
> > > > Is there anyplace which describes its functions, in addition to what
> > you
> > > > and Dan have said about it?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Craig
> > > >
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Re: [MBZ] 06 mercedes E320 cdi - $6500 (Charleston)

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When it gets to be too much, let me know and I'll come rescue it.  ;)
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Max
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> These are great cars if the Black Death stuff has been addressed. It makes
> me sad to see my eldest driving his, as I know it’s going to be a Kleb car
> in another year or two.
>
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[MBZ] 124 Convenience Control Module

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Has anyone heard of a 124 feature, whereby the windows can be lowered using
the key in the driver's door?

Is that an option, or was it standard on the later cars with the subject
line module?
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Re: [MBZ] 06 mercedes E320 cdi - $6500 (Charleston)

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Nice.  Too bad my driveway is full, and Kenny is a flipper, approach with
caution.  I only had one interaction, left a bad impression.
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Max
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>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-06-mercedes-e320-cdi/7059303249.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] 124 central locking

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I was thinking that the driver's lock is set for sending a constant unlock
signal, but that cannot be because when I lock / unlock that, it has no
effect, so that wire must be disconnected or broken / grounded or something.
-
Max
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On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 10:02 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> So that would suggest the switch(es) in the lock(s) has gone wonky.
> Door lock not switching, trunk lock in a panic
>
> --FT
>
> On 1/20/20 9:54 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> > All
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jan 20, 2020, at 8:23 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Is it electric or vacuum actuated?
> >>> --FT
> >> Are all 124 and 201 locks powered by vacuum via electric lock pump, or
> just the early ones?
> >>
> >> Mitch
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Re: [MBZ] 124 central locking

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This is 124, not 210, and I don't (yet) have an SDS computer.  Perhaps this
124 does have some rudimentary diagnostics via the impulse counter
connector by the battery, worth looking in the documentation to see if that
is a thing.
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Max
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On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 10:12 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> These later (W210-up) central locking systems rely on what’s known as the
> “PSE” pump. It provides both vacuum and pressure, along with supplementing
> vacuum for the ACC system when values drop below a specific point, or when
> the engine isn’t running. The PSE pump does a lot of “thinking” for the
> various systems, and as a result, can often be the problem when it
> manifests something that might be elsewhere.
>
> Thats being said, I would pop your SDS computer on the diagnostic port and
> run the tests for the PSE. That will reveal a great deal of information
> relative to what might be the cause.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 124 central locking

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

No, I'll take a look there.  I'm sure you're correct, someone has btdt and
written up the process to fix.
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Max
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> Have you done a Google search on BenzWorld’s W210 forum? It’s probably
> outlined there.
>
> -D
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 124 central locking

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Electric switches in the locking mechanism, sends signals to the pump to
provide either vacuum or pressure.
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> Is it electric or vacuum actuated?
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
>
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[MBZ] 124 central locking

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

The central locking system on my $500 124 wagon, 1994 model E320, needs
attention.

The driver's door does not activate the system.

The front passenger door, when locked, will activate system and lock all
doors, and then immediately unlock them all.

The tail gate will start an endless do-loop, lock / unlock, until I unlock
it.

I suspect the driver's door is the issue, giving a continuous unlock
signal, so I'm planning to start the diagnosis there, but if anyone has
experience and can offer some insight, I'd love to hear it.
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Re: [MBZ] Green/green 1993 Mercedes Benz 300Diesel - $3200

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Minus: rear bumper is cracked, dent right below left taillight, driver's
seat MB tex is torn.  Front bumper pic hard to see, but maybe something
like broken bumper is hanging down?
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>
> Plus: Green on Green, the only G+G W124 I've ever seen. He's got really
> good
> floor mats so the carpet might be decent.
>
> Minus: Headliner is falling apart, and other signs the owner just doesn't
> give a
> shit. Priced for a car in much better condition.
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Re: [MBZ] 124 rear subframe

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Karl, what is the source for the parking brake spring kit with tool?
-
Max
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>
> The parking brake spring kit is a hollow tube with an outer flange to
> compress the spring and a slot to catch the straight part to turn the
> spring. T handle. It makes that job trivial. I tried with needle nose
> pliers and succeeded on one side but never did get it done that way on the
> other side. Wish I had bought the tool sooner. The e420 needs the whole
> works also so I figured I would get some more use out of it someday.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Kirkland full synthetic oil

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I should get that for my gassers.  Need to check which weights are
appropriate.  I think I use the 5w-30 in SWMBO's Infiniti.
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Max
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> The oil page
>
> https://www.costco.com/kirkland-signature-5w-30-full-synthetic-motor-oil-5-quart%2c-2-pack.product.100527865.html
> says
>
>
>   Applications
>
> For use in gasoline, flex-fuel or gasoline-electric hybrid vehicles
> requiring SAE 5W-30 API SN PLUS, SN, SL and ILSAC GF-5, GF-4 or previous
> standards. Approved for use in all GM gasoline engines requiring
> dexos1^™ Gen 2 5W-30.
>
> From
>
> https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c6-corvette-general-discussion/4350817-kirkland-oil-2.html
>
> "Warren dist in Omaha Nebraska fills most oil brands. They even make the
> containers oil goes in and will provide you any info you need about a
> certain brand of oil and I think they make most brands. They are kinda
> quiet about making Mobile one but thats going to take more research.
> Best deal right now is kirkland costco at 2.50 a quart in ten quart box.
> I use the walmart brand in my winter beater car and its full synthetic
> for around 2,99 a quart. Warren builds brands that you see every day and
> did not know they did all the blending.. The C6 still gets mobile one
> and a champion labs filter (different thread). I may re think that down
> the road when I run out of rebate mobile one."
>
> The Jagyoowah guys have mixed opinions in an "oil thread"
>
>
> https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/xk-xkr-x150-33/heck-ya-another-oil-thread-would-you-use-kirkland-oil-costco-226603/page2/
>
>
> Krikland 5W30 Fully Synthetic oil can be found here:
>
> https://www.costco.com/kirkland-sign...100527865.html
> <
> https://www.costco.com/kirkland-signature-5w-30-full-synthetic-motor-oil-5-quart%2c-2-pack.product.100527865.html
> >
>
> Kirkland 5W20 Fully Synthetic oil can be found here:
>
> https://www.costco.com/Kirkland-Sign...100518854.html
> <
> https://www.costco.com/Kirkland-Signature-5W-20-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-5-quart%2C-2-pack.product.100518854.html
> >
>
> and 0W20 here:
>
> https://www.costco.com/Kirkland-Sign...100518855.html
> <
> https://www.costco.com/Kirkland-Signature-0W-20-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-5-quart%2C-2-pack.product.100518855.html
> >
>
>
> I guess of these 5W30 would be a reasonable choice weight for my E320
> (although I just changed the oil in it using M1 last Sunday), and would
> be fine in my trucks
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 1/16/20 4:39 PM, Buggered Benzmail wrote:
> > Now $25 for 2-5qt jugs. Apparently it is good stuff.
> >
> > --Ft
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

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I'll try to find something which can be dyed the same color as the car,
I've got too many black MB keys now and need a more elegant way to keep
track of which keys go with which car.  Maybe color-coding will be the
answer, although I would hate to ruin a perfectly good key head simply to
change the color.  Maybe the second key for each car, or a third spare
key...
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 8:41 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sure. Send me the files and I’ll knock them out.
>
> Do understand that there are a wide range of materials available for 3D
> printing. Look here:
>
>
> https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=3d+printing+filament&crid=2JF2L95MP97R2&sprefix=3d+printing%2Caps%2C258&ref=nb_sb_ss_i_2_11
>
> Look down at the choices under “3D Printing Materials”. There are a number
> of different materials to print with, all of which have different
> characteristics depending on what you’re printing. The most common material
> is PLA, but it’s probably not ideal for something like a key head. You can
> get filament that has real wood in it to look wood grained, for example,
> along with all sorts of other stuff.
>
> -D
>
>
>
> > On Jan 14, 2020, at 8:23 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like I need to find (or create) the files to make the two halves
> of
> > the key head and send them down to you for printing.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 8:17 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I got a printer courtesy of a credit card scam someone tried to
> accomplish
> >> on my youngest son. His credit card got compromised and someone ordered
> two
> >> 3D printers with it. The bank reversed the fraudulent charges and he
> >> thought that was it, not knowing what they were for. A few weeks later
> two
> >> 3D printers show up at the house from some company in Taiwan. He
> contacted
> >> the company and the credit card people, and both of them said to keep
> them
> >> as I suspect it wouldn’t have been worth it to ship them back.
> >>
> >> He didn’t want them so I kept one and gave the other to a coworker’s dad
> >> who is a retired aerospace engineer. I think it’s an Ender 3 or
> something
> >> like that.
> >>
> >> You don’t really have to have any design abilities. Just go to
> Thingverse
> >> or any number of other web sites that host 3D printer files and start
> >> searching. The stuff you’ll find is amazing, and the materials to make
> them
> >> are relatively cheap. There are a bunch of Mercedes related things on
> >> Thingverse.
> >>
> >> I haven’t done anything significant with my printer, but it’s fun to
> >> tinker with. Most of what I’ve made so far are enhancements for the
> printer
> >> itself.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jan 13, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I've often thought about getting a printer but I've got no skilz on the
> >> design side making it fairly impractical. Our house is so small it'd be
> >> inconvenient too ASFAIK prints easily run into tens of hours...
> >>> -Curt
> >>>
> >>>   On Monday, January 13, 2020, 4:11:32 PM EST, Curley McLain via
> >> Mercedes  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> here's a printer for $200.  You can create the file, then go inta biz,
> >>>
> >>
> https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=40108&cl=res&utm_source=200109_email_seg&utm_medium=email&utm_content=cadet_button&utm_campaign=200110_cadet_comingsoon&deliveryName=DM7722
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> >>>> January 13, 2020 at 9:09 AM
> >>>> I'd have thought somebody would have already designed one but a search
> >>>> on Thingverse came up negative...
> >>>> -Curt
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sunday, January 12, 2020, 1:58:21 PM EST, fmiser  >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> What about 3D print?  Not as elegant, for sure.  But easy and
> >>>> effective.
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Sounds like I need to find (or create) the files to make the two halves of
the key head and send them down to you for printing.
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Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 8:17 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I got a printer courtesy of a credit card scam someone tried to accomplish
> on my youngest son. His credit card got compromised and someone ordered two
> 3D printers with it. The bank reversed the fraudulent charges and he
> thought that was it, not knowing what they were for. A few weeks later two
> 3D printers show up at the house from some company in Taiwan. He contacted
> the company and the credit card people, and both of them said to keep them
> as I suspect it wouldn’t have been worth it to ship them back.
>
> He didn’t want them so I kept one and gave the other to a coworker’s dad
> who is a retired aerospace engineer. I think it’s an Ender 3 or something
> like that.
>
> You don’t really have to have any design abilities. Just go to Thingverse
> or any number of other web sites that host 3D printer files and start
> searching. The stuff you’ll find is amazing, and the materials to make them
> are relatively cheap. There are a bunch of Mercedes related things on
> Thingverse.
>
> I haven’t done anything significant with my printer, but it’s fun to
> tinker with. Most of what I’ve made so far are enhancements for the printer
> itself.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 13, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I've often thought about getting a printer but I've got no skilz on the
> design side making it fairly impractical. Our house is so small it'd be
> inconvenient too ASFAIK prints easily run into tens of hours...
> > -Curt
> >
> >On Monday, January 13, 2020, 4:11:32 PM EST, Curley McLain via
> Mercedes  wrote:
> >
> > here's a printer for $200.  You can create the file, then go inta biz,
> >
> https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=40108&cl=res&utm_source=200109_email_seg&utm_medium=email&utm_content=cadet_button&utm_campaign=200110_cadet_comingsoon&deliveryName=DM7722
> >> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> >> January 13, 2020 at 9:09 AM
> >> I'd have thought somebody would have already designed one but a search
> >> on Thingverse came up negative...
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >> On Sunday, January 12, 2020, 1:58:21 PM EST, fmiser 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> What about 3D print?  Not as elegant, for sure.  But easy and
> >> effective.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Windows 10

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Yay?

I just finally found and installed the last driver that I think I needed,
which was for the PCI serial bus.  Took some searching to find a post on
Toms Hardware that had the link to the MS support page with the updated
driver for Win10 64bit.  Device manager doesn't have anymore errors for
missing drivers, and all my stuff seems to work fine.  I've got maybe a
couple pieces of software to install, but mostly I've still got to get
Outlook set up with the current email accounts and the archive .pst files.
Once that is done, the Win7 drive goes into storage, but because it is SSD
I'll bet it won't work if I let it sit too long with no power.  Maybe I'll
get a caddy for it and make an external HD for moving files or something.
-
Max
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> After a week of trying everything under the sun I ended up just doing a
> clean install. It’s up and running but of course now I have to get
> everything put back together. It did not Install my display adaptor so it’s
> generic. I did get messages about it was not compatible with windows 10. I
> wonder if that might have been the issue? I may end up having to disable it
> and install an add on one.
>
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Re: [MBZ] A Great Deal of “Rollin’ Coal” at Start

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

On that engine, test the glow plugs, and if any are needed, pull the intake
manifold and replace them all.  Not very easy to get to some of the plugs
with the manifold in place, plus if you pull the manifold (need a new
gasket) then you can also refresh the delivery valves with new washers and
new o-rings (if you have the special splined socket for the DV holders).
Between those two jobs, you'll have eliminated some pretty common
maintenance items for the next 100k miles or so.  If you also replaced the
injectors (get a balanced set, don't forget that the heat shields must be
renewed as well) and overhaul the fuel pre-heater (new o-rings) and put in
new rubber fuel lines and return lines, you won't need anything but oil
changes for the next 100k miles.

Oh yeah, don't forget the plastic clips that hold the steel fuel lines in
place, and the little rubber pads that go under the lines.  Another ten or
fifteen dollars in parts, but vital to longevity of the steel lines.

-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 1:22 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
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> Now that everyone mentions it, I remember the bad glow plug scenario.
> For Curly, it’s freezing for AZ (low 40s).
> I reckon I’ll go after the glow plugs first...unless I decide to unload
> it. Getting to the point where I gotta downsize for retirement and I don’t
> really need the extra car.
>
> Bob R
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Jan 13, 2020, at 10:54 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > May be as simple as a dead glow plug or two, maybe a glow plug relay
> issue
> > as Curly mentioned, maybe an injector is not spraying a fine mist anymore
> > until it warms up, might be time for a "rebuild" of the injection pump
> > delivery valves.  Start simple / cheap (glow plugs) and work your way
> > through it.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> >> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 12:32 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Here is something I have never experienced the whole time I’ve owned
> >> diesels. And, mind you, that stretches back to 1977.
> >> Over the last couple of weeks I’ve noticed that every time I start my
> W124
> >> (to be clear, ‘86 300D, 176K miles) for the first time of the day, it
> just
> >> smokes like crazy. Rollin’ coal. And it does it for 10 to 15 seconds,
> and
> >> then clears up. I’m sure you guys of talked about this at some point
> over
> >> the last 20 or so years, guess I wasn’t paying attention. What’s up with
> >> this nonsense?
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] I need some welding lessons!

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Well, it has the "cold air intake" scoop on the hood, but they forgot the
hood stack for exhaust?

That is pretty neat.  Swap that special-build body onto a more modern
suspension set up, and it would be very entertaining.
-
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On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 12:55 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Oh hell yes I need to do this, seriously need to do this! Someone find
> me a wrecked G I can get the running gear from, I got the $300.560SEC
> sitting around!
>
>
> https://petrolicious.com/articles/dakar-dud-this-mercedes-benz-560sec-was-built-for-off-road-endurance-racing-in-the-80s
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Re: [MBZ] A Great Deal of “Rollin’ Coal” at Start

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May be as simple as a dead glow plug or two, maybe a glow plug relay issue
as Curly mentioned, maybe an injector is not spraying a fine mist anymore
until it warms up, might be time for a "rebuild" of the injection pump
delivery valves.  Start simple / cheap (glow plugs) and work your way
through it.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 12:32 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Here is something I have never experienced the whole time I’ve owned
> diesels. And, mind you, that stretches back to 1977.
> Over the last couple of weeks I’ve noticed that every time I start my W124
> (to be clear, ‘86 300D, 176K miles) for the first time of the day, it just
> smokes like crazy. Rollin’ coal. And it does it for 10 to 15 seconds, and
> then clears up. I’m sure you guys of talked about this at some point over
> the last 20 or so years, guess I wasn’t paying attention. What’s up with
> this nonsense?
>
> Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] 124 lower control arm, rear

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Agree, that's it, and the 202 part number lines up with my memory.

When you get them, measure each end with calipers, and you'll find that one
end is slightly smaller and that is the end to insert first.  Similarly,
one end of the arm has an opening slightly larger than the other end.

Have a hydraulic press?
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Charleston SC


On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 12:13 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I think I found it: A2023520165  A202 352 01 65
>
> I found a website that apparently is the epc, or at least an old version:
> Benzcat.com
>
> http://benzcat.com/1/fg/300/15v/124032 is the link for 124 89+ sedan
> vergasser
>
> Y'all can plug in that number and see what you get.   on the normal MB
> parts websites, it shows the front LCA, but I think (hope) the drawing
> is wrong.
> > Max Dillon via Mercedes 
> > January 13, 2020 at 11:05 AM
> >
> > Somewhere I may have that number. I replaced that bushing on two sets,
> > and you may need a hydraulic press to R&R. I had to take the work to a
> > shop, could not do it with hand tools.
> >
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> >
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[MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I bought one of these for a 124 key that was missing the plastic head:

https://blenddoor.com/product/billet-aluminum-key-head/

Nice product, looks and feels good.  We'll see how long it will hold up,
undoubtably a lot longer than the cheapo plastic replacements that are out
there.

Only downside is that these aluminum heads probably will gouge human flesh
in the event of a collision.
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Re: [MBZ] More windows 10 update

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I don't think I ever got a question about get updates later, but maybe I
blew past that.  It was Win 10 1909 version from Nov 2019, going from the
official Windows download site.  Once I got it up and running, I ran the
updates and it only had about 3 that it needed.

Glad to hear you're going to wipe the HD and do a fresh install, I'll be
very surprised if that fails.  Did you check for BIOS updates like Roger
recommended?  I did that as well, but no update was available.

When you get it fully set up, leave the OS on the primary HD, and keep all
your personal data folders and stuff on the second, that way "next time" it
will be much easier.
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> This time I made a thumb drive install for it. I tried running the setup
> form there and selected get updates later. Still appeared to download
> updates and failed. I then booted from it and that method will only do a
> fresh install. I’m backing up vital files to the 2nd HDD in the system and
> wiki probably just go the fresh install route. Will that wipe the drive
> completely or just install windows fresh but leave the other files on the
> drive?
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Re: [MBZ] GPS

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Iranians are trying to get even (?) after we terminated a couple
terrorists, with extreme prejudice. Perhaps they are jamming GPS signals as
part of the cyber war.

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On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 10:45 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Since the BRV's speedometer is recessed in the dash and since it reads
> high when it is cold, I have been using our GPS as a speedometer for some
> time now.
>
> Shirley had a dental appointment today so we were in northwest
> Albuquerque. After her appointment, I programmed the GPS to find the
> quickest way to the Fleet Pride store in downtown Albuquerque and we
> were off (you have to be off to do this kind of thing!  :-) ).
>
> As we were driving east on Paseo del Norte, I heard the GPS saying,
> "Recalculating!" several times. Then I noticed I was going slower than
> the speed limit of 60 mph -- the GPS said 52. I accelerated and noticed
> the GPS said 48. I then looked down at the speedometer (it was after
> sunset and I had the lights on so the speedometer needle was easy to
> see). It said we were going 65!
>
> I slowed down and push the button on the GPS to return to the map
> display. It showed the vehicle about 500' north of the roadway and going
> on neighborhood roads instead of on the freeway! When we crossed the Rio
> Grande (where there are no neighborhood roads parallel to the freeway!)
> it decided we were on the freeway afterall.
>
> We got off on the left side of the freeway, turned right, and went under
> the eastbound lanes and stopped at a stoplight with a clear view of the
> sky. I looked at the GPS's map and saw it said we were about 500' west of
> our actual location. This continued as we headed south on 2nd street.
>
> I thought this was rather odd, having never seen anything like this
> before.
>
> It could have been caused by someone transmitting locally on GPS
> frequencies, but those are predominantly line-of-sight and we had
> travelled a few miles and were on the other side of a freeway
> overpass's earth berm. In addition, after a while it started working
> correctly again.
>
> It occurred to me it could have been due to the Department of Defense
> turning on Selective Availabilty (which has been off for several years).
>
> Anyway, I first noticed the wierdness about 1640 MST (2340Z).
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] I guess Clay can quit worrying about freezing rain...

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Clay,

Does the dog wear an extra coat? I would think an indoor dog would
object to such cold weather without putting on another layer of
insulation.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jan 8, 2020 12:44:07 AM Clay via Mercedes :


> They finally plowed the street from the new years day storm. I get to drag 
> the doodle dog around after putting Mushers Magic (looks like petroleum 
> jelly) on his paws. Today’s walk awarded me with iced up eye brows and 
> lashes, rime around the balaclava, and a four inch ice booger dangling from 
> my chin. I feared my eyes would freeze.
>
> BTW, 4% relative humidity inside is really uncomfortable. The humidifier 
> machines could not keep up, but a large pot of boiling water helps. Until I 
> saw that it was escaping through the perished seals on the windows and icing 
> up the glass outside.
>
> clay
>
>
>
> > On Jan 7, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 Upgrade from 7

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Randy - can you format (wipe) the hard drive in that laptop, and then try
to install Win 10 from a DVD or thumb drive?
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Max
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On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 12:43 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> I have not been able to make the upgrade work either. I have been trying
> to do it on a laptop that really has no data etc that I would be
> concerned about.
>
> It appears to work to begin but then hangs up when it is trying to
> download the updates at 46%. I have tried a number of remedies that are
> claimed to work but none of them appear to do so.
>
> I am essentially frustrated with Microsoft once again. I have toyed with
> the idea of moving to Ubuntu for a long while but never have. Now seems
> like a good time to put it on this laptop and try it out.
>
> I may be stuck with Windows on my office computer as there are a couple
> of programs that I use that pretty much require it but apart from that
> the office could no doubt go to linux as well.
>
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[MBZ] OT too funny fake news

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https://babylonbee.com/news/john-bolton-cant-believe-he-quit-just-before-war-with-iran

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Re: [MBZ] 124 rear subframe

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Karl, Jaime: what about fine tuning the alignment of the differential, once
you get to the point of connecting the driveshaft?  IIRC, when I swapped
differentials on my 124 last fall, new bushings were supposed to be
installed with a special tool in order to get the differential aimed
directly at the driveshaft so the entire assembly would be straight and (I
assume) minimize flexing at the flex disc and sideways loading on the
bearing at the nose of the differential.  I didn't have the special factory
tool, used a Mark 1 Mod 0 Eyeball and calipers, paid attention to alignment
of the old diff and focused on getting the new diff into the same
position.  The fore/aft depth of each bushing can affect the diff
alignment, if they are grossly different.
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Re: [MBZ] Make a Replacement Car Lens

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Interesting.  I'd like to see a DIY video for a more complex lens, like 124
wagon rear tail light, which has three colors (red, yellow, and clear).
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Max
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> For those un-obtainium lenses, etc. ---
>
>
> https://www.smooth-on.com/tutorials/creating-replacement-car-lens-crystal-clear-202/
>
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>
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> for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] repair undercoating

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Uhh, did you read the description?

" Featuring a machined brass nozzle that disperses the coating in a 360
degree fan pattern, this extension nozzle ensures you get full coverage."
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> I was thinking more along the lines of a "clean in place" (CIP) ball for
> a tank.   A sphere with holes all around.   It will coat everything
> inside a tank or other enclosed space.With the eastwood items, you
> still spray from one side to the other, so in a cube, you need access to
> all 6 sides.
>
> > Meade Dillon via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > January 7, 2020 at 1:36 PM
> > Here it is:
> >
> > https://www.eastwood.com/aerosol-nozzle-w-24-extension-hose.html
> >
> > Not bad, about $10
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Re: pizza oven talk

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I remember reading that as well.

I'm totally spoiled, having eaten pizza in bella Napoli for years and
years.  On the must-do list at every trip to Italy is pizza made in a real
brick oven, the closer to Naples the better.

Once when family was visiting, we all went to a local pizza ristorante to
pick up about five pizzas.  The pizza oven was right up front next to the
cashier, big wood fired brick oven, heated up like a blast furnace.  We had
so much fun just watching the chef build each pizza, put them all into the
oven, and then turn them a time or two and minutes after they went in, they
came back out, perfectly done.  Family from the mid-west was suitably
impressed, probably their favorite event of the day, talked about that
pizza oven experience for a long time afterward.

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Max
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On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 1:26 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I mentioned recently about us talking about pizzas; well today I found
> the original email. It's attached below.
>
>
> Craig
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 01:58:43 -0500
> From: Allan Streib 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] pizza oven talk
>
>
> Conveyor ovens are awful.  They do produce a consistent quality pie
> without the need for any real skill on the part of the operator, which
> is why the chain pizzarias use them.  Unfortunately for the consumer,
> however, the consistent quality they achieve is not excellent or even
> good, but medocre.
>
> In college I worked at a Domino's franchise.  Not world class pizza
> maybe, but at the time really not bad.  Back then they used deck ovens,
> which were later replaced by conveyors.  The pizza took a noticable turn
> for the worse at that point.  Same dough, sauce, cheese and toppings;
> the only difference was the ovens.
>
> The deck ovens could turn out a really nice crust, nicely browned and
> crispy on the surface but moist, airy and flavorful on the inside,
> cheese carmelized on the surface but melted and stringy underneath, the
> tastes of the toppings individually discernable.  The conveyor ovens,
> with the same ingredients going in, turned out a tough cardboard-like
> crust that had no crunch, with the cheese and all the toppings hardened
> into a tasteless, dehydrated layer on the surface.
>
> All the chain pizzarias here, as well as most of the independents, use
> conveyor ovens now.  Some do better than others, but the best pizza we
> have is found at one or two independents that still use deck ovens.
>
> Our deck ovens at Domino's were electric, and ran at about 580 degrees
> F.  A coal-fired brick oven could approach 1,000 degrees.  Intense
> radiant heat is the key to a great pizza.  Baking at these temperatures
> requires experience and attention.  The difference between an underbaked
> and a burnt pizza can literally be a matter of seconds.
>
> Aside from the oven, another critical element of a good pizza crust is
> the flour.  You need to use a high protein flour, which you cannot buy
> at the typical supermarket.  So-called "bread flour" is better than
> all-purpose, but still not ideal.  The best I've tried is "Sir Lancelot"
> high-gluten flour from the King Arthur flour company.  You can order it
> on-line.  With this flour, you really have to work the dough to develop
> the gluten, so it's best to use an electric mixer such as a Kitchen-Aid.
>
> For anyone interested, I can enthusiastically recommend a book on the
> topic, "American Pie: My Search for the Perfect Pizza" by Peter
> Reinhart.  The first half is sort of a diary or narrative of his "hunt",
> starting in Italy then moving to New York and across the USA, sampling
> and comparing locally famous pizzarias.  The second half is a collection
> of recipes and instructions for how to make a decent pizza at home from
> scratch.  The author's love for his subject is obvious throughout.
>
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] repair undercoating

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Here it is:

https://www.eastwood.com/aerosol-nozzle-w-24-extension-hose.html

Not bad, about $10
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> I think I remember also seeing on the Eastwood site some sort of
> disposable hose that could be used on a typical spray can, pull off the
> existing nozzle and put this hose / nozzle assembly in place and go to
> work.  Did Craig post that some years ago?
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 2:22 PM Meade Dillon  wrote:
>
>> A little pricey at $71, but exactly what you are looking for:
>>
>> https://www.eastwood.com/undercoating-gun-with-2-hoses-and-bottle.html
>>
>>
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 2:03 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone figured out a way to effectively spray undercoating into a
>>> blind bodywork box using a rattle can undercoat?
>>>
>>> I know the ziebart folks had special nozzles, but is there a way we can
>>> achieve similar results?
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Re: [MBZ] repair undercoating

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I think I remember also seeing on the Eastwood site some sort of disposable
hose that could be used on a typical spray can, pull off the existing
nozzle and put this hose / nozzle assembly in place and go to work.  Did
Craig post that some years ago?
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> A little pricey at $71, but exactly what you are looking for:
>
> https://www.eastwood.com/undercoating-gun-with-2-hoses-and-bottle.html
>
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 2:03 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone figured out a way to effectively spray undercoating into a
>> blind bodywork box using a rattle can undercoat?
>>
>> I know the ziebart folks had special nozzles, but is there a way we can
>> achieve similar results?
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Re: [MBZ] repair undercoating

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A little pricey at $71, but exactly what you are looking for:

https://www.eastwood.com/undercoating-gun-with-2-hoses-and-bottle.html


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> Has anyone figured out a way to effectively spray undercoating into a
> blind bodywork box using a rattle can undercoat?
>
> I know the ziebart folks had special nozzles, but is there a way we can
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Re: [MBZ] UHOH here we go again

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"breaks need to be replaced"
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>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-2001-mercedes-benz-ml320/7051257122.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Temperature in MidEast just went up

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Sadly they are either floating museums or in mothballs again, and I do
believe they are no longer viable to be recalled back into service.  They
were enormously expensive to operate (steam plants burning bunker oil, and
any casualty to the propulsion plant would pretty much require custom
fabrication of replacement parts) so after the evil empire fell apart, the
Navy was eager to retire them as quickly as they could.  Tragedy on the
Iowa hastened retirement.

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On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 4:58 PM archer75--- via Mercedes <
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> Good story! The accuracy of the rolling battleship miles from the target
> is remarkable. Are battleships still part of the fleet?
> Gerry
>
> On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 09:58:38 -0500
> Meade Dillon via Mercedes  wrote:
>
> > Yes indeed, the shells weighed about as much as a VW beetle, IIRC a range
> > of over 30 miles (well over the horizon).
> >
> > I read a very impressive / humorous account of an Army patrol in Vietnam
> > war that called for artillery support during an engagement with enemy
> > forces.  Their first call to the primary artillery support unit got no
> > response.  The secondary and other "normal" back-up artillery support
> units
> > also could not respond immediately.  In desperation and in danger of
> being
> > over run, they put out a general call for any available artillery
> support,
> > and the response came from one of the Iowa class battleships.  The Army
> > patrol did not recognize the call sign but proceeded to give their
> > coordinates and requested fire, not realizing they were calling in
> 16-inch
> > high explosive shells.  Just one round of fire from that battleship
> > completely destroyed the enemy attack but also was so close to the Army
> > patrol that they were covered with falling dirt and debris and absolutely
> > stunned with the result of the shelling.  In awe of the destruction of
> the
> > enemy and near death experience for the soldiers, they asked some
> questions
> > and then realized that a battleship had responded to their call.  The
> > battleship was eager to provide another round of fire, but was assured
> that
> > the first round had been more than sufficient.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 1:50 AM archer75--- via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Awesome! Sixteen inches is a huge projectile.
> > > Gerry
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Windows 10 upgrade failed again

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Try this, if you have a spare hard drive so you can keep the old and not
lose your data.

Download the clean installation from here:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/software-download/windows10

Install a clean version, and when you connect to internet and it asks for
the key, use your Win7 key.  Buddy told me that's how he did it, worked
fine.

I'm going to try this with my factory installed win 7 pro key.
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> After installing all windows 7 updates available and I have no av software
> running I ran the upgrade again. Failed again.
>
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Re: [MBZ] 140 300SD

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That's it, and yes it looks like a different location.  Lost key and
title?  Wonder how they got lost between then and now.
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Max
Charleston SC


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> Is that the same one?  I thought it might be but looked like some other
> location.  Yeah that poor kid got taken by some shady UCD.
>
> --FT
>
> On 1/6/20 12:18 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > We looked at this turd last year, has a cracked head or failed head
> gasket.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 12:12 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/723117564846621/
> >>
> >> 1992 Mercedes 300d
> >> Walterboro, SC· about a day ago
> >> <
> >>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/723117564846621/?ref=product_details
> >·
> >>
> >>
> >> $1
> >>
> >> Car has no title, and no key..the car will crank and run. Asking best
> >> offer. Need gone
> >>
> >> Condition
> >> Used - Fair
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Here you go Andrew a white one

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Love the photographs...
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/535006110581667/
>
> 2011 Mercedes-Benz GL-Class GL 350 BLUETEC 4MATIC Sport Utility 4D
> North Charleston, SC· over a week ago
> <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/535006110581667/?ref=product_details>·
>
>
> $12,990
>
>   * About This Vehicle
>   *
>
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Driven 14,558 miles
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Automatic transmission
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Exterior color: White · Interior color: White
>   *
>   o
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Re: [MBZ] 140 300SD

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We looked at this turd last year, has a cracked head or failed head gasket.
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/723117564846621/
>
> 1992 Mercedes 300d
> Walterboro, SC· about a day ago
> <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/723117564846621/?ref=product_details>·
>
>
> $1
>
> Car has no title, and no key..the car will crank and run. Asking best
> offer. Need gone
>
> Condition
> Used - Fair
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Temperature in MidEast just went up

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Yes indeed, the shells weighed about as much as a VW beetle, IIRC a range
of over 30 miles (well over the horizon).

I read a very impressive / humorous account of an Army patrol in Vietnam
war that called for artillery support during an engagement with enemy
forces.  Their first call to the primary artillery support unit got no
response.  The secondary and other "normal" back-up artillery support units
also could not respond immediately.  In desperation and in danger of being
over run, they put out a general call for any available artillery support,
and the response came from one of the Iowa class battleships.  The Army
patrol did not recognize the call sign but proceeded to give their
coordinates and requested fire, not realizing they were calling in 16-inch
high explosive shells.  Just one round of fire from that battleship
completely destroyed the enemy attack but also was so close to the Army
patrol that they were covered with falling dirt and debris and absolutely
stunned with the result of the shelling.  In awe of the destruction of the
enemy and near death experience for the soldiers, they asked some questions
and then realized that a battleship had responded to their call.  The
battleship was eager to provide another round of fire, but was assured that
the first round had been more than sufficient.
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> Awesome! Sixteen inches is a huge projectile.
> Gerry
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT best data recovery tool?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

About 6 GB has been over-written, but there is hope for the rest.

Any thoughts on a data recovery tool?  I really don't want to blindly
download software, "free" usually means that my privacy is what is being
sold.
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On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 1:20 AM fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > Max wrote:
>
> > Well I messed up and created the win 10 installation tool on my
> > external hard drive that I also use for backing up data.
>
> Uh oh!
>
> > Creating the installation tool has over written about 6 GB on
> > the drive. There were several hundred GB of data, so much of
> > that is still there, but now hidden.
>
> If it has been deleted, there is hope.  If it has been
> over-written - not much hope...
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Re: [MBZ] What do you guys think of this weld?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

That is my question too.  If the original system had a joint that could be
undone with hand tools, why is that no longer the case?  Was there a leak /
rust at the joint?
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On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 12:04 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> and cut out the restriction.   THt is a bigger deal than the ugly
> welds.   But the real deal is why was the flange cut out and not repaired?
>
> > Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
> > January 3, 2020 at 2:52 PM
> > Post his name on Twitter with pic-or threaten to if they don't clean
> > up the
> > weld.
> > Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ 2020?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Lately I've found that Google Flights is the best search engine, but
sometimes it is not so easy to translate a flight you find into a ticket,
as you have to use a different website to find that ticket at that price so
you can buy it.
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[MBZ] OT: Temperature in MidEast just went up

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Wow!

https://apnews.com/5597ff0f046a67805cc233d5933a53ed

"BAGHDAD (AP) — The United States killed Iran’s top general and the
architect of Tehran’s proxy wars in the Middle East in an airstrike at
Baghdad’s international airport early on Friday, an attack that threatens
to dramatically ratchet up tensions in the region.

The targeted killing of Gen. Qassem Soleimani, the head of Iran’s elite
Quds Force, ..." and a bunch of hand-wringing follows.
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[MBZ] Best deal for ATF?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Mobil 1 or Febi?  Site, coupon code?  I've got two cars that I need to
service, I think I'll have to purchase about 20 liters.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Fun with Water Heaters

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

They are attempting to re-create more paradise cities like San Francisco,
Seattle, LA, etc (read: rampant homelessness due to un-affordable housing).
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On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 9:35 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
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> I saw that VA proposal attempting to ban single family zoning. It’s
> absolutely outrageous. These idiots are chipping away at our country and
> our freedoms one bill at a time.
>
>
> https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dailycaller.com/2019/12/23/virginia-house-zoning-environment
>
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Re: [MBZ] OM617 Cherokee?

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Have you the OM617 waiting for a new life?

Looks like the kit only has the parts to mate up to the transmission.  What
about engine mounts, radiator hoses, fuel tank / fuel lines, throttle
set-up?  Exhaust?

I'd think that if you had an entire donor car to start from, fabricating
all those bits would be a nice project.

SWMBO has offered that the OM603 burns a little too smokey for her taste,
for use in the "new" 124 gasser wagon project, so I might be making Floyd
an offer on that OM606 turbo that is wasting away on his vast estate...
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> Anyone have any experience with http://www.mercedesdiesel4x4.com
> adapter kits?
>
> There's a nice looking late 1990s Cherokee for sale near me with a bad
> engine. Mind wandering to the idea of dropping an OM617 in.
>
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mysterious Events

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Very stinky, know of a similar story for a distant relative who was rumored
to have done some work with the CIA during the cold war.  Found dead in a
foreign country, family pretty much immediately told it was a suicide, no
one believes it but official story is as far as anyone can get.
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> No he did not. I have a copy of the Cypriot authorities’ death
> certificate, as it was required for the title insurance when the deed was
> transferred. Says nothing about suicide, but I suspect that’s because
> suicide is illegal in the Greek side of Cypress.
>
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Re: [MBZ] nother one for Dan

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Dan "Two Houses" Jackson?
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On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 5:17 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> Dan has a project right now, thanks. It’s called “two houses”.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Dec 28, 2019, at 8:41 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> >
> >
> https://eastnc.craigslist.org/pts/d/bath-1964-mercedes-benz-for-sale/7038353115.html
> >
> > I have an OM621 engine you could use to Dieselize it.
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Re: [MBZ] a disselvagen fur herr strassvogel

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Oh yeah, I didn't scroll down through pages and pages of advert to see the
year at the very bottom.
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On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 10:06 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> It says 2016.   Just off lease.  Few buy new MBs since the prices shop
> up in the 80s.   That was part of why my friend Harry sold his MB
> dealership.   He didn't like dealing with yuppies who only wanted leased
> prestige.  When he got into it, customers bough MBs for the durability
> and safety, and in the case of Diesels, economy.
>
> I saw an amerkun pickers a couple nights ago.  They went to some guy who
> had a huge stash of harley stuff.  He shut down the business because he
> didn't like dealing with idiot docs and lawyers.  He preferred gang
> bikers of old.   Kinda similar to what Harry found a couple decades
> earlier.  They liked enthusiasts, not posers.
>
> > Max Dillon via Mercedes 
> > December 28, 2019 at 8:57 PM
> >
> > Well, it's not black with a black interior.
> >
> > All that info, but they couldn't let us know what model year?
> >
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
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Re: [MBZ] New Cheap Wagon Weirdness

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On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 1:31 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 07:55:43 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > While idling at the gas station to check and correct the ATF level,
> > about ten -  fifteen minutes, the engine temperature crept up to about
> > 110 deg C, I guess there's some fault with the cooling system, so maybe
> > a new thermostat is in order. Once I started driving again, temp
> > returned to normal range.
>
> These are not the symptoms of a bad thermostat, though a new thermostat
> might be a good idea, anyway.
>
>
> > I had the AC running, I guess that additional load was too much.
>
> Yes, more heat generation than the cooling system could dissipate when
> not moving. That is what the symptoms above say.
>
> Were the auxiliary fans running?
>
> No they were not, that's a clue I need to folllow up.

>
>
> > Factory radio has a dead display, so I guess I'll need to order another
> > of those Continental radios.
>
> From where do you purchase "those Continental radios"?
>
> Here's one place:
http://www.ebaystores.com/Schlauer-Shop24/Kienzle-VDO-/_i.html?_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1581&rt=nc&_pgn=2&_fsub=1828624016&_sid=78736826&;


> > I'm tempted to send this radio to those Becker folks in NJ to get this
> > one refurbished and add an aux-in cable, and then try out a bluetooth
> > adapter that feeds the aux cable.
>
> At least get a price quote from them.
>
> What year is your Benz?
>
>
1994

Does it have the "head unit in the passenger compartment and the
> amplifier, et al., in the trunk" type of radio?
>
>
No, single piece in the dash


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Re: [MBZ] The new GLuB

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Interesting, one can spec if for third row seating, like wagons of old.  I
wonder if the rear-most seats would be rear facing as well.  Would they add
airbags on the tailgate for third row passengers, in the event of a
rear-end collision?
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On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 11:23 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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>
> https://jalopnik.com/the-2020-mercedes-glb-is-a-small-suv-that-feels-big-in-1840469494
>
> --
> --FT
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[MBZ] New Cheap Wagon Weirdness

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Yesterday I had time to get to the DMV office, which was finally open after
the Christmas holiday, and completed the paperwork to register and license
the $500 wagon.  Very long line at the DMV, but I have to say they are very
proactive / engaged, and only sucked up an hour of my time for the pleasure
of relieving me of about $120.  The county property tax bite was $11.50,
outrageous!

Got home and finished up some yard work, put the plate on and hooked up the
battery and went out for a spin.  First drive since I got the car home a
couple weeks ago.

The central locking system has some fault, which causes the locks to just
cycle open and closed constantly, if I try to lock the car.  Only happens
when locking from passenger door or rear hatch.  Driver's side lock doesn't
activate the central locking system.  I guess I'll start with the driver's
door and see if that is the entire issue.

I drove down to local 7/11 to clean the windows and check the ATF level and
engine oil level.  The low oil light is constant on, and the oil pressure
gauge pegs at 3 bar as soon as the ignition is turned on, so a couple
issues there.

While idling at the gas station to check and correct the ATF level, about
ten -  fifteen minutes, the engine temperature crept up to about 110 deg C,
I guess there's some fault with the cooling system, so maybe a new
thermostat is in order. Once I started driving again, temp returned to
normal range.  I had the AC running, I guess that additional load was too
much.  Maybe there's also a bunch of leaves and dirt between front fan
shrouding and the condenser / radiator.  I should probably start there
first.

Headlight switch is messed up but still works sort of.  Monowiper is really
slow, maybe just needs the workings to be cleaned and lubed.  Factory radio
has a dead display, so I guess I'll need to order another of those
Continental radios.  I'm tempted to send this radio to those Becker folks
in NJ to get this one refurbished and add an aux-in cable, and then try out
a bluetooth adapter that feeds the aux cable.
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Re: [MBZ] Whinging

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So the loophole seems to be mailing a firearm.  Maybe get together the
paperwork and box with your home address on it, unload and stuff the weapon
in the box, carry it all to / from the PO as needed.  If challenged, "Hey I
was thinking about mailing this weapon, but I changed my mind.".
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> I picked up my Garand at the PO.  Clinton's administration mailed it to me.
> That's the only exception I know of.  The Law is an Ass.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] WoooHooooooooooo!

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Nice, enjoy!
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On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 10:47 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> #1 daughter just walked in.  She cleaned out one pop shop in Columbia,
> NC (reportedly) of all the Maisel's Weisse they had!  2 6pks of
> hefeweisen in merkun 12 oz bottles, 3 half liters of dunkel and 3 half
> liters of crystal.
>
> We'll have a tasting manaña!
>
> been 16.5 yrs since I had any!
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Re: [MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Craig - your VIN brings up the same $$$ monovalve as my '95 E300.  The
Daytona FL dealer I've been using has a list price of $520 for it.
001-830-40-84

004-830-20-84 seems to be for non-heated washer bottles, and lists for $153
at same dealer.  I'm going to poke around a bit more to see what I can
learn about this valve, and then I'm probably going to order it and try it.


Another possibility is 001 830 38 84, which is about $275, and seems to be
appropriate for late model 124 gassers as well as diesels.  Maybe this
valve doesn't have the bypass option, but does have fitting for heated
washer bottle?  Very strange.  This is the valve that should work in my '94
gasser wagon.
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wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Dec 2019 09:46:43 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Craig - Send me your VIN so I can see which part number comes up for
> > your replacement monovalve.
>
> More than you wanted ...
>
> Craig
>
>
> VIN WDBEB28E1PB934645
>
> 1990-1993 300D 2.5 Turbo Chassis Type 124.128 Engine Type 602.962
>
> Model designation:
> Model: 300 D 2.5 TURBO USA (124.128)
> Market: North America
> Catalog: 15V
> ~ As of 09/89 ~
>
> - Datacard -
> Identification number:  WDB1241281B934645
>   VIN:  WDBEB28E1PB934645
>
> Chassis
>
>Market: NA,North America
>  Order number: 0 2 705 38872
> Delivery date:
> Sales designation: 250 D TURBO[MODEL_IDX = 0]
>  Paint code 1: 702
>  Paint code 5: 75
> Equipment: 175
>Engine no.: 602962 12 017248
>  Transmission: 722418 03 302799 [transmissionType = GA]
>
> SA code
> 221 - LEFT FRONT SEAT, ELECTRICALLY ADJUSTABLE
> 222 - RIGHT FRONT SEAT, ELECTRICALLY ADJUSTABLE
> 240 - OUTSIDE TEMPERATURE INDICATOR
> 280 - LEATHER STEERING WHEEL AND LEATHER GEAR SHIFT KNOB
> 291 - AIRBAG FOR FRONT PASSENGER
> 300 - STORAGE BOX IN FRONT TRAY
> 340 - ADDITIONAL 3RD STOP LAMP
> 412 - ELECTRIC SLIDING ROOF WITH TILTING DEVICE
> 420 - AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION 4-GEAR
> 430 - HEADREST IN THE REAR, LEFT AND RIGHT
> 440 - TEMPOMAT (CRUISE CONTROL)
> 467 - ELECTRONIC LOCKING DIFFERENTIAL
> 491 - U.S. VERSION
> 524 - PAINTWORK - PRESERVATION
> 543 - SUN VISOR WITH MAKE-UP MIRROR L. AND R., BE-
> 551 - ANTI-THEFT/ANTI-BREAK-IN WARNING SYSTEM
> 588
> 593 - ALL-ROUND WD-GREEN GLASS, HEATED REAR WINDOW-ESG, BF
> 611 - EXIT LIGHTS FOR DRIVER DOORS
> 639
> 640 - 15-HOLE LIGHT ALLOY RIMS
> 664 - LIGHT ALLOY WHEEL 7-HOLE STAR DESIGN 17 INCH
> 673 - HIGH-CAPACITY BATTERY
> 757
> 803 - AEJ 06/1/M/X
> 814
> 702 - RANGE OF DELIVERY OF SKD VEHICLES - VIETNAM
> 75
> 175A
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Re: [MBZ] Amazon

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Must be a warehouse very close to you.
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> I order something from Amazon about 3pm yesterday afternoon that said it
> would arrive today. This morning I got notification it shipped today and
> will arrive today. How the heck can they do that? Wow.
>
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Re: [MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

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Craig - Send me your VIN so I can see which part number comes up for your
replacement monovalve.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: We talked about socks, how about blue jeans?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I bought my Vertx pants around 2010 or so.  Nine years of service long
enough for you?  The price is rather steep, some re-sellers will have a
sale now and then for 20% off or so, but given the long life, I'm not going
to hesitate too much when I buy some replacement pairs.
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On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 9:39 AM Meade Dillon  wrote:

> I really like Vertx cargo pants, because the cargo pockets are more
> discrete and perfect for carrying a smart phone and a small notebook.  I
> wear these with a nice shirt to work (unless I need to wear a jacket and
> tie, then I put on real dress slacks).
>
> https://vertx.com/f1-vtx8001-nv
>
> It looks like they have replace the model I bought with the linked
> version.  I bought six pairs of the originals in three different colors,
> and still have all six.  The two that I wore most often are starting to
> fray and come apart a little but are still very serviceable.  Mine are a
> poly-cotton blend, so wash and wear.  The additional cargo pockets are the
> big sell for me, plus they look smart enough to wear at work and other
> places that blue jeans would not be appropriate.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 11:45 PM Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
>> I have had different brands of blue jeans with various
>> lengths of usable life and comfort of fit.
>>
>> Have any of you found a particular brand to wear longer
>> than others? Fit better than others?
>>
>> How about places to buy them? Are the ones sold at Wally World worse
>> quality than those sold at other places? How about Tractor Supply?
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: We talked about socks, how about blue jeans?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I really like Vertx cargo pants, because the cargo pockets are more
discrete and perfect for carrying a smart phone and a small notebook.  I
wear these with a nice shirt to work (unless I need to wear a jacket and
tie, then I put on real dress slacks).

https://vertx.com/f1-vtx8001-nv

It looks like they have replace the model I bought with the linked
version.  I bought six pairs of the originals in three different colors,
and still have all six.  The two that I wore most often are starting to
fray and come apart a little but are still very serviceable.  Mine are a
poly-cotton blend, so wash and wear.  The additional cargo pockets are the
big sell for me, plus they look smart enough to wear at work and other
places that blue jeans would not be appropriate.
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Max
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On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 11:45 PM Craig via Mercedes 
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> I have had different brands of blue jeans with various
> lengths of usable life and comfort of fit.
>
> Have any of you found a particular brand to wear longer
> than others? Fit better than others?
>
> How about places to buy them? Are the ones sold at Wally World worse
> quality than those sold at other places? How about Tractor Supply?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Axle boot replacement

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Did you see Allen's reply?  He has the tool.
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Max
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On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 11:22 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> the the boots and funnel are available on fleabay and mean wimmin.
> Since I have 12 to do right off the start, I think the expander is worth
> the price.
>
> > Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
> > December 23, 2019 at 4:41 PM
> > I saw that video too
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

My current theory is that the bypass goes with the heated wiper washer
fluid bottle. The bypass pipe parts are noted in the EPC to go with the
heated bottle.

Does anyone have a 124 diesel with no heated wiper washer fluid bottle?
I'd like to know if your monovalve set-up includes the heater bypass.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 1:01 PM Meade Dillon  wrote:

> Well the mystery deepens.  Looking up a generic E300, instead of searching
> by VIN, a different monovalve comes up, and it is forward compatible with
> many later cars from 1995 up until 2011, including 210 E300 with OM606,
> both turbo and non-turbo.  Looking at the 124 2.5 models, 1991 used a
> different type than 1992-1993.  So perhaps there were two different
> variations of heater / monovalve set up, some with a bypass and some
> without, for my E300 and for other years.  Perhaps it was a
> climate-specific variation, or related to some other options?
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 12:11 PM Max Dillon  wrote:
>
>>
>> Peter, I don't know how a bypass would help that. Maybe it encourages a
>> continuous flow through more of the hoses, keeping them warmer?
>>
>> I'm recalling that Curley's 124 2.5 also has a bypass, I need to see
>> about the cost of that monovalve new and if it could fit my car.
>>
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>>
>> Dec 22, 2019 8:57:35 AM Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
>>
>> > Since diesels produce very little waste heat at idle, I would suspect
>> that there is a bypass to prevent loss of cabin heat under low load -- the
>> water can cool off enough on the way from the head to the core enough to
>> cause erratic heat.
>> >
>> > These are luxury cars, people complain of the heat isn't exactly what
>> they set the control wheel for.
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Re: [MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Well the mystery deepens.  Looking up a generic E300, instead of searching
by VIN, a different monovalve comes up, and it is forward compatible with
many later cars from 1995 up until 2011, including 210 E300 with OM606,
both turbo and non-turbo.  Looking at the 124 2.5 models, 1991 used a
different type than 1992-1993.  So perhaps there were two different
variations of heater / monovalve set up, some with a bypass and some
without, for my E300 and for other years.  Perhaps it was a
climate-specific variation, or related to some other options?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 12:11 PM Max Dillon  wrote:

>
> Peter, I don't know how a bypass would help that. Maybe it encourages a
> continuous flow through more of the hoses, keeping them warmer?
>
> I'm recalling that Curley's 124 2.5 also has a bypass, I need to see about
> the cost of that monovalve new and if it could fit my car.
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
> Dec 22, 2019 8:57:35 AM Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
>
> > Since diesels produce very little waste heat at idle, I would suspect
> that there is a bypass to prevent loss of cabin heat under low load -- the
> water can cool off enough on the way from the head to the core enough to
> cause erratic heat.
> >
> > These are luxury cars, people complain of the heat isn't exactly what
> they set the control wheel for.
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Re: [MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Yes, that part is pretty straightforward to design and execute.

Plumbing the coolant flow is where it gets fun.  I need a new branch off
the coolant circuit on the other side of the existing monovalve for the
bypass circuit.   Right now that branching occurs in the existing monovalve
body.  This means finding a "Y" or "T" fitting of the right diameter and
splicing that in, and routing the new branch off that fitting to the newly
added monovalve / bypass circuit.
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Max
Charleston SC


On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 10:11 AM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Dec 2019 08:46:08 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > One way to re-engineer would be replace the $450 valve (two-way) with
> > two on-off valves, one on the heater core circuit and one on the bypass
> > circuit, controlled so that either one or the other is open.  That
> > would be a bit of work, but less expensive than a new monovalve.
>
> No, it would not be a bit of work; all you have to do is add an ice-cube
> relay. With +12 to the armature, the normally-closed contact will provide
> power with the signal to the coil off and the normally-open contact will
> provide power with the signal to the coil on. You just have to figure out
> which on-off valve to connect to which contact, i.e., when energized, does
> the two-way monovalve open the heater circuit or the bypass circuit?
>
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[MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I compared the '94 gasser monovalve to the '95 E300 monovalve, and the
major difference is that the E300 version has a bypass around the heater
core, so the valve is two-way and either feeds coolant to the heater core
or bypasses the heater core.   Gasser has no bypass, so the valve is simple
on-off.

One way to re-engineer would be replace the $450 valve (two-way) with two
on-off valves, one on the heater core circuit and one on the bypass
circuit, controlled so that either one or the other is open.  That would be
a bit of work, but less expensive than a new monovalve.
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[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Diff is only connected to subframe.  I think you've hit all the right
points.

I've got a spare subframe (no diff or axles) you can have if you want to
drag it away from SC.

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Charleston SC


On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 1:28 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> Karl or others:
>
> Since Karl has recently done this, I think he has most of the answers.
>
>   I am fixin ta take out the rear subframe of the 124 2.5.   As I
> recall, I have to take out the exhaust, driveshaft rear flex, sway bar
> links, shocks, brake calipers, ABS Sensor in Diff., parking brake
> cables, and of course, the 4 main subframe bolts.  Am I missing anything?
>
> As I recall, the diff has 2 big bolts at the back (10mm allen I think)
> and 2 smaller bolts at the front.   I think these are all into the
> subframe.  Is that right?
>
> What is the best way to lower the unit?   I hope I can balance it on the
> floor jack while I roll it out from under.
>
> More important, what is the best way to raise the subframe  back up into
> position?  Will I need stacks of blocks or an extra person to help
> balance it on the jack as it goes up?
>
> Need to replace the rear brake lines, brake hoses, possibly calipers, Rt
> wheel bearing, parking brake cables,  weld up some rusted holes in the
> body, patch others, derust, clean and paint subframe, and probably
> replace the links.   May need to replace the park brake shoes while
> there.   (YUK)
>
> It has no antislip, so single brake line to the rear, and a T.   I only
> need to replace the lines from the T out, and the hoses.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Cell phones, long post

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

+1.

WiFi calling on T-Mobile has not worked well for us.  I disabled that on my
phone and SWMBO's.
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On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 10:14 AM ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
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> I tried WIFI calling via Tmobile, but it was terrible
>
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 06 mercedes E320 cdi - $6500 (Charleston)

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

 Approach with caution. I think I've dealt with Kenny before, was not
pleasant to talk to.  Maybe he was having a bad day.  He had a nice 124 2.5
turbo on craigs list some years ago, someone asked me to get the
particulars on it, after 1 phone call the interest from the potential buyer
withered and died.  IIRC, Kenny was hostile to the idea of me inspecting a
car for the potential buyer and even hostile to getting a PPI, but wanted
big bucks. I think Kenny flips cars for a few bucks on the side.
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Charleston SC


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> Kinda high but looks nice
>
>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-06-mercedes-e320-cdi/7041699288.html
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