[MBZ] M-B Color Palette
Has anyone else noticed the color palettes of cars have gotten very drab in the past 20 years or so. I was just looking at the 2009 M-B palette for the 550CLS-like I can afford one. I thought my monitor had gone monotone. They have four greys, two blacks, two whites, one silver, one redish, one blueish, and one greenish. Not that other manufacturers are any better. All I see on the road are greys, browns, blacks, and whites (with a few off hue reds mixed in). I remember cars in the 50s having about 30-40 colors-not counting the custom colors you could get by special order. Tom Potter -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090127/dec9af0b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] FW: LEARN CHINESE FAST!!
You guys need a chuckle this morning. From: Lobo, Edwin Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 8:20 AM Subject: LEARN CHINESE FAST!! Learn Chinese in Five (5) minutes! (You MUST read them out loud.) English Chinese That's not rightSum Ting Wong Are you harboring a fugitive? Hu Yu Hai Ding See me ASAP Kum Hia Nao Stupid Man Dum Fuk Small Horse Tai Ni Po Ni Did you go to the beach?Wai Yu So Tan I bumped into a coffee table Ai Bang Mai Fu Kin Ni I think you need a face lift Chin Tu Fat It's very dark in here Wai So Dim I thought you were on a diet Wai Yu Mun Ching This is a tow away zone No Pah King Our meeting is scheduled for next week Wai Yu Kum Nao Staying out of sight Lei Ying Lo He's cleaning his automobile Wa Shing Ka Your body odor is offensive Yu Stin Ki Pu Great Fa Kin Su Pa ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] New Vehicle
Well chaps, I am back in the Mercedes-Benz fold. I picked up a 1985 300D Turbodiesel yesterday for $1500. It has 238k on the odometer, which is not too bad. The exterior is Anthracite and needs repainting. The left front door is damaged and will need replacing. The right front door needs the trim replaced. There is a tiny rust spot just below the rear glass on the right, otherwise it is rust free. The interior is Palomino and looks like new. The engine runs like a dream. I have been waiting for years to find one like this. I had given up hope when I accidentally saw this one on Craigslist. Tom Potter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Thanks to the Veterans
I want to say THANK YOU personally to any and all veterans on this list. Tom Potter (Who is enjoying life because of you)
Re: [MBZ] Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT
That is a beautiful vehicle. Congratulations. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Robbins Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Gotta brag -- Check out my $3200 '87 300TDT What do you guys think? http://www.ece.msstate.edu/~jer99/mercedes/300td/ Everything seems to work... from the cruise to the A/C. It has a brand new injection pump, and the tranny was supposedly recently rebuilt (have receipt for IP, not for tranny). The engine barely sounds like a diesel when driving around!! The suspension is probably original it is VERY hard to drive in a straight line. The nitrogen spheres are also completely gone... I'm thinking about upgrading to Sportline suspension while I'm in there. We'll see how all that goes. Will be a few months before I've got the time/money to get started on it. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] off topic on MERCEDES topic
I would replace the compressor, dryer, and expansion valve in addition to having the system flushed. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Hawkins Java Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 1:18 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] off topic on MERCEDES topic Folks, This is bit off topic compared to the recent posts about anything but Benzes. This one IS mercedes related. Anyway, 1982 300TD, last summer the R4 A/C compressor rattled for a month or two then finally seized. Now it's hot enough to repair. I plan on replacing compressor with a new unit, receiver drier and refilling with fresh R12. What else do i need to do?? Do i need to flush the system (and how)? I read mixed opinions on flushinh. Should i replace the expansion valve due to danger of plugging? Have any of you been in the same boat and what did you do and what were the results. How many years later were things good? The climate control system performed admirable before the compressor crash. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Test
Nope, not today. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russ Williams Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Test Test Anybody Out there??? Russ W. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Makes your job look dull..
Yeah, the size of watermelons. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sunil Hari Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 4:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Makes your job look dull.. balls of steel on that one. On 5/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.glumbert.com/media/highpower RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] navistar-slaps-with-ford-with-2-billion-lawsuit
I think Luther has it right. My sentiments exactly. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 3:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] navistar-slaps-with-ford-with-2-billion-lawsuit Add the Allison tranny to that and you've got a rock solid truck. Body-Ford Engine-Cummins/Dodge Tranny-Allison-Chevy -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (271,xxx mi) needs head '83 300SD (245 kmi) For Sale '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting '85 donor engine '85 300D (280,176) parts car-sans engine Quoting Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED]: They should have put a Cummins in their trucks anyway! Their trucks are pretty good (I had a 1999 F350 crew cab PSD). I like the 610Lb/Ft of torque and 325hp in the '06 dodge. MB content: It doesn't ride as smooth and isn't as quiet as the 300SD. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rosie
It makes you want to poke out your mind's eye. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:55 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rosie could you imagine waking up to her every morning? - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rosie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: she is a sweat hog I think you just insulted Arnold Horshack. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft Balancer Bolts
Or lose skin from your knuckles. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Landenberger Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 10:24 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft Balancer Bolts Fred, ... And a suggestion - while you are working to check this out, place a piece of thin plywood/cardboard on the rear surface of the radiator. You don't want to bend the radiator vanes and remove any cooling capacity..
Re: [MBZ] lugs torque?
There was a long thread about this on another list lately. The consensus was that anti-seize was OK, but you needed to reduce the torque about 15-20 percent. They had some backup data about the 15-20 percent, but I do not remember the source. I have used anti-seize on my vehicles for at least 40 years with no problems. What most people fail to realize about torquing is that the values are valid only if the threads are in PERFECT shape, which is rarely the case. In addition, most torque wrenches (especially the click type) are rarely calibrated and the readings are suspect. Tom Potter, who DOES use torque wrenches (the beam type) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Conlon Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 9:30 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] lugs torque? I still prefer to put a squirt of Kroil on the threads of my lugs. Then torque them to 78lbs/ft. Just to protect against a seized lug bolt out on the road or if one of the ladies god forbid has to change a flat. -- Dry. Anti-seize will act as a lubricant will actually cause you to over torque the lug bolts. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 I think the book calls for 80 ft/lbs. for the wheels on the 300E. I think is also says to recheck and retorque as needes after 500 miles? Does anyone know if the official work manual calls for the bolts to be torqued dry or with anti-seize? Thanks, Ed 300E ___ _ The average US Credit Score is 675. The cost to see yours: $0 by Experian. http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=660600bcd=EMAILFOOTE RAVERAGE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke
I have yet to hear ANYONE mention that coal is filled with radon (radioactive) gas. Coal piles emit much more radioactivity than any nuclear power plant. I am always struck by the fact that those who oppose nuclear power are the same folks who just ADORE skiing in the Colorado mountains (high elevation = more radiation + the rocks are the source of uranium), or they LOVE the beaches of California (soaking up additional radiation). Tom Potter (who worked in nuclear plants for 6 years) P.S. I'm wearing my Nomex drawers, so fire away. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 10:54 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke The coal mines aren't the issue. Strip mines can become lakes and underground mines can be back filled. How do we reclaim the CO2 emissions from all of the coal we'd burn? Tom Hargrave -Original Message- From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 4/11/07 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was Desert Crack, VW PU...Now Desert Nuke As a matter of fact, coal mines can be successfully reclaimed. On 4/11/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: environmental issues attendant with uranium mining and reclamation Would you prefer coal mining? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 96 E320
I am going to look at a 1996 E320 that is for sale locally. It has the I6 DOHC engine. It looks nice from the pictures. Please give me your opinions on this model, as I have no experience with it. Thanks, Tom Potter
Re: [MBZ] Noise from upper left front suspension area - '84 300D
Loose/worn shock. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Brown Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 3:34 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Noise from upper left front suspension area - '84 300D I've recently been experiencing a noise which seems to be emanation from the upper left front suspension area and seems to be on the rebound cylce when encountering bumps (Note: The bumps do not need to be very large to cause this). Sometimes there will be just one knock/rot sound, and other times there will be a rot-a-tot sound. I jacked her up and removed the left front wheel this afternoon but did not see anything visually obvious and could not move anything in the suspension by hand (too tight). Any ideas? TIA. G. M. Brown Rochester, NY ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Extended Warranty Providers
Anybody have any opinions on Auto One Warranty Specialists. I am contemplating getting an extended warranty from them on my granddaughter's vehicle. If you are not familiar with this one, is there an extended warranty provider that you recommend? Thanks, Tom Potter
Re: [MBZ] Gov'ment sales
Here are some to get you started. http://www.lonestarauctioneers.com/ http://www.rbauction.com/index_ind.jsp http://www.govliquidation.com/index.html http://www.liquidation.com/index.html Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 11:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Gov'ment sales Someone in the past posted a link to government sales when there were a bunch of 603 engines for sale in AK. Does anyone know what that website is? Seems I am in the market for a forklift. I was thinking maybe Uncle has one i might pick up Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freighter
I think I also need rehab. HF has a store about 5 miles from me, and my garage is bulging already. Just so much NEAT stuff that I MIGHT need someday. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Royce Engler Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 7:10 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freighter Jim said... Did I mention that I now work across the street from the store? I _walked_ over and bought an armload of crap, and then walked to KFC and had lunch. The long-term potential harm of this store's location cannot be underemphasized! -- Jim I think there's a 12 step plan for that Royce Engler 1985 300TDt 295K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] best way to pull an engine
As long as EVERYTHING grows in proportion I guess you will be OK. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 8:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] best way to pull an engine Some years ago I bought some really good white cotton jumpsuits for $1 each at a surplus store. They are size 52 and have some nuclear reactor lapel labels on them. I don't need shop lights or anything when I wear them, and they keep me warm in the winter too! Kinda big on me, but I seem to be growing into them. --R Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I often use a lab coat when working on cars. Luther wrote: and keeps your white lab coat white :D Luther ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] what are your odds?
Back in the 50s on the coast of NC, we would use old 2WD Fords and Chevys to drag the 4WD Jeeps out of the sand on the beach. I made my spending money that way. I have NEVER had a need for a 4WD yet, and I have been driving for 50 years. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Canfield Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] what are your odds? Simple solution.Throw some sand bags in the back. No more light rear end. Grew up driving 2wd Chevy trucks. My Dad didn't believe there was any need for a 4WD truck. I'll take a RWD anything with a little weight in the rear and good snow tires over a FrontWD of any sort. That's just my preference though. Mike - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] what are your odds? In any kind of bad weather a pickup truck is about the WORST vehicle to have. The pickups of today are especially bad. Big engines, light rear ends and bad gas mileage. But wait you say, how could bad gas mileage make pickup trucks more dangerous? I know this one because I've been there. Bad gas mileage gets worse in four wheel drive so some pickup truck drivers will try to get away without being in four wheel drive in conditions where they really should be using it. A pickup truck in slippery conditions in 2wd is downright dangerous, especially an automatic transmission truck, especially an overpowered automatic transmissioned truck (which is like 90% of pickups being made today). Don't get me wrong I love having a v8 in my Dodge Dakota but having taken on a guardrail while traveling sideways at 60mph up Rt 95 at the tail end of a snowstorm I've learned to be vary wary... We were going up a fairly small hill, anybody who's driven 95 in southern Maine knows its made up of mostly gently rolling hills. The snow had quit an hour or so before and the roads were mostly clear so I'd shifted into 2wd to save some gas. I was young and dumb. I was going a bit faster than was prudent (young and dumb) even though the back end of the truck had kicked out a bit a couple times before. So finally the back end kicked out so bad I couldn't get it back. The big problem was that I was used to driving a manual transmission which doesn't shift by itself. On those hills the auto would shift and the increase torque would send us skittering. I've since learned to manually take it out of overdrive in those conditions. Oh and I drive slower now too and gas mileage be dammed I keep it in 4wd. Anyway my story ends pretty well, we slid down the crown of the road into the guardrail which was fortunately covered in snow. Bounced off, slid 180 degrees and came to a stop without getting hit by traffic. The bumper was dented up and some plastic trim damaged but still intact. I've left it that way as a reminder... Note that at this point I'd been driving for 6 years and had logged probably 90,000 miles, much of it in the snow. The problem was that I was inexperienced with that vehicle and fueled with a bit of remaining young man testosterone invincibility... I'd bought the Dakota myself with my own money... -Curt Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:14:43 -0400 From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] what are your odds? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original There will always be some risk in any activity, driving, flying, or just sitting at home. But the danger on our highways could really be reduced substantially IF we required drivers to actually LEARN how to drive, and not issue licenses out of cracker jack boxes. It takes about 2 years in Europe to get a driver's license, and you can lose it for a long time and pay heavy fines if you are caught doing something stupid. Here in the USA, in some states we have 16 and 17 year olds (given BMWs and Caddy SUVs by indulgent parents) on the road legally after passing a very minimal written test, and they may or may not even have to pass a driving test. And that test is usually more about parking than knowing how to safely drive at legal speeds. One has to wonder if the parents realize that they are seriously jeopardizing their children's lives by turning them loose without proper training and in too much of a car? That spinning 3/4 ton truck was probably either driven carelessly or by a driver that was never taught how to keep from losing it. Its wrong to pre-judge without knowing the facts, but IMO, 9 times out of 10, the driver in the skid did something wrong. Werner - Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000
Re: [MBZ] Auto extending_retracting antenna on 300D
The cable that extends the antenna has been previously broken off at the end and shortened. OTOH, it could have been affixed to the motor by threading it too far through. These are just my guesses. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Brown Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 1:59 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Auto extending_retracting antenna on 300D I periodically use a silicone spray lube on my '84 300D antenna to clean the shaft(s) to prevent sticking due to dirt. The antenna appears to have four sections, but only the top (narrowest) and bottom sections extend no matter how much effort is taken in cleaning and running the antenna up and down. I've even tried pulling on the top section as hard as I could while it was extending to see if I could help unstick the center two sections. Anybody got a clue? TIA. G. M. Brown Rochester, NY ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rust starting -- how to handle it
POR-15 is highly recommended by folks I know. Eastwood handles it. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:22 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rust starting -- how to handle it Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By 'front quarter panel', I assume you're referring to the front fender, Allan. Yes, sorry I don't really know my auto-body terminology. If your car does have those fender liners you'd do well to remove them for a looksee. Will check it out. What about the rust already starting? Can I treat it with anything? I know there are a few products that claim to convert the rust to prevent future corrosion, but don't know if they are snake oil or really work. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new mascot
I have one of those. He is wonderful with my great-granddaughter. She is a toddler, and pulls and beats on him without him even raising an eyebrow. I named him George after my hero, George Patton. Thankfully, he is not quite as pugnacious as his namesake. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 6:47 PM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] new mascot Bought the wife an english bulldog for her birthday, we are naming it Diesel. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ball Joint Replacement (John Kevin)
I know you said that the front end was rebushed, but did you replace the bushings on the sway bar? I would get a can of rubber lube and spray one bushing at the time until I found the culprit. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 10:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ball Joint Replacement (John Kevin) Very rarely the track rod (aka brake support rod) BEARING on the control arm will go bad. Requires removal of the control arm to fix, and they are expensive. Usually that noise is the bushing on the firewall end, but if you've replaced them, all that's left is a bad bearing or a bad control arm bushing. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Compressor woes, post mortem.
Royce, I have occasionally run the heater coming to work and the A/C going home. Tom Potter (another Houstonian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Royce Engler Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 5:49 PM To: Marshall Booth; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Compressor woes, post mortem. Thanks, Marshall, I don't usually have to worry about running the AC during the winterhere in Houston we have plenty of warm winter days ;-) Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 290K -Original Message- From: Marshall Booth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 5:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Compressor woes, post mortem. Royce Engler wrote: Well, my A/C compressor had well and truly killed itself. Indy says it appears to have gotten a slug of liquid. He got the supplier to warrant it and covered a new dryer himself. He thinks the cold weather caused it...he put in an evaporator temperature sensor to shut down the compressor when there is not enough heat transfer to change the freon from liquid to gas. Also said I should run it on EC when it's cold out...We'll see... Actually it's important that the AC compressor be turned on and run every few weeks (for a few minutes) ALL winter. That prevents seal hardening and greatly increases compressor life. It's not necessary for the later systems (124/201, later 126) that use the Nippondenso compressors that function whenever the system is in defrost (and the temperature is in the correct range). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water pump vent pipe
My '81 300D had the U-shaped vent pipe. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Merle Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 1:41 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Water pump vent pipe Discovered that my 79 300D ( non turbo ) does not have the vent pipe from water pump housing to head as it should have according to the parts list. Could this explain erratic temperature fluctuations as I suspect that air pockets are forming in the engine due to cavitaion or whatever. Later Om617 ( +- 1983 's ) however did not require this vent pipe even thogh pump and housing remained the same - so I'm a bit puzzeled as to weahter one actually does need this vent. Anyone have any info on this matter? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1997 E320
Reported to AutoCheck RepossessedNo Repossessed Record Reported to AutoCheck Storm Area Registration/TitleStorm Area Registration/Title Record(s) Reported to AutoCheck Taxi UseNo Taxi Use Record Reported to AutoCheck TheftNo Theft Record Reported to AutoCheck Vehicle Description | TitleCheck | ProblemCheck | OdometerCheck | Vehicle Information | Full History Below are the historical events for this vehicle listed in chronological order. Any discrepancies will be in bold text. Report Run Date: 02/01/2007 VIN: WDBJF55F7VA403678 1997 Mercedes-Benz E Class E320 Event Date Event Location Odometer Reading Data Source Event Detail 06/05/1997 BELLAIRE, TX Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 07/11/1997 BELLAIRE, TX 5 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:10110835610152344) 06/01/1998 BELLAIRE, TX Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 06/01/1999 BELLAIRE, TX Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 06/01/2000 BELLAIRE, TX Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 07/28/2000 HOUSTON, TX 32,052 Independent Emission Source PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION 06/01/2001 BELLAIRE, TX Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 07/25/2001 TX 39,914 Independent Emission Source PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION 06/01/2002 BELLAIRE, TX Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 06/01/2003 BELLAIRE, TX Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 09/26/2003 BELLAIRE, TX 58,504 Independent Emission Source PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION 06/01/2004 BELLAIRE, TX Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 11/17/2004 BELLAIRE, TX 68,498 Independent Emission Source FAILED EMISSION INSPECTION 11/22/2004 BELLAIRE, TX 68,622 Independent Emission Source PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION 06/01/2005 BELLAIRE, TX Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL Reported registered/titled prior to storm event in FEMA designated storm area. We recommend a professional vehicle inspection to confirm no storm damage. 12/12/2005 BELLAIRE, TX 79,537 Independent Emission Source PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION 06/01/2006 BELLAIRE, TX Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 12/28/2006 BELLAIRE, TX 90,024 Motor Vehicle Dept. PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION PASSED SAFETY INSPECTION Potter, Tom E wrote: My granddaughter is looking at a 1997 E320 with 90k miles on it. Does anyone have any advice about this model vehicle? The price is $9995.00. Does anyone have a Carfax available and care to run the VIN for me. The VIN is WDBJF55F7VA403678. Tom Potter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1997 E320
Thanks to all who replied to my query. I have not heard any major caveats; therefore, we will pursue a possible purchase. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Wakin Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:58 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1997 E320 Tom, I drive a 97 e320 on a daily basis. Here are the things that have come up on mine over the past three years: 1. Transmission: The tranny is controlled by a computer and the cable that connects the two weeps tranny fluid into the controller. You need to replace the seal and wiring harness, and clean the fluid that will has accumulated in the control housing. It is located on passenger side of engine compartment under a black plastic lid. Mine started to not shift out of first gear when cold, and I could smell something a little funny. Took the controller apart and it was about half-way dipped in fluid. Cleaned it good with electronic parts cleaner, replaced the seal and cable, and has been a lot better. Still likes to stay in first now and then, but going to N and back to P fixes it. 2. HVAC filters: These need to be replaced as soon as you get the car - they clog, and then cause the blower motor to overheat and blow the control module. Expensive to fix, filters are cheap. 3. Rust: My car was from Georgia and only in NY 2 years when I bought it. Over the past three years, rust has started to form here and there. I fix it as it starts, but not something that I like. 4. Head gasket leak: These motors are known to weep a little oil from the head gasket in the front. Mine had traces of doing it when I bought it, but after I put Mobil 1 in it, it appears to have stopped. 5. Light bulbs: seems I have had to replace quite a few light bulbs. Other then that, mine has been a good car. Dave Wakin My granddaughter is looking at a 1997 E320 with 90k miles on it. Does anyone have any advice about this model vehicle? The price is $9995.00. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1997 E320
My granddaughter is looking at a 1997 E320 with 90k miles on it. Does anyone have any advice about this model vehicle? The price is $9995.00. Does anyone have a Carfax available and care to run the VIN for me. The VIN is WDBJF55F7VA403678. Tom Potter
Re: [MBZ] Sorta OT but interesting, FixaFlat
The son of a friend of mine almost lost an arm to this stuff. He spent several months in the hospital and had several operations on the mangled arm. After that, I threw all mine away. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 9:16 AM To: mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Sorta OT but interesting, FixaFlat How the stuff works, and can blow up. --R http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2007/01/whats_in_fixafl.html?CMP=OT C-0D6B48984890 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sorta OT but interesting, FixaFlat
He got quite a settlement from FixaFlat. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:03 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sorta OT but interesting, FixaFlat He needs to call Jim Adler, the Texas Hammer! --R Potter, Tom E wrote: The son of a friend of mine almost lost an arm to this stuff. He spent several months in the hospital and had several operations on the mangled arm. After that, I threw all mine away. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 9:16 AM To: mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Sorta OT but interesting, FixaFlat How the stuff works, and can blow up. --R http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2007/01/whats_in_fixafl.html?CMP=OT C-0D6B48984890 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sorta OT but interesting, FixaFlat
My friend's son was working at a service station. Some chap drove in with a flat tire into which he had installed FixaFlat and wanted them to repair it. As the kid was in the process of removing the wheel from the vehicle, the tire blew up and mangled his arm Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 11:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sorta OT but interesting, FixaFlat How exactly did it happen? On 1/29/07, Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He got quite a settlement from FixaFlat. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:03 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sorta OT but interesting, FixaFlat He needs to call Jim Adler, the Texas Hammer! --R Potter, Tom E wrote: The son of a friend of mine almost lost an arm to this stuff. He spent several months in the hospital and had several operations on the mangled arm. After that, I threw all mine away. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 9:16 AM To: mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Sorta OT but interesting, FixaFlat How the stuff works, and can blow up. --R http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2007/01/whats_in_fixafl.html?CMP=OT C-0D6B48984890 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bad gas recourse - was Saab stranded me in cold
One thing I haven't heard yet is that some gas stations may not adequately remove the water that has collected in their tanks from condensation. Yes, gas station tanks also collect water from condensation. When I operated stations, we had to pump the water out every few weeks. We had a dipstick onto which we applied water detector (in a tube like toothpaste). The detector was blue and would turn red up to the level of the water. We had a small pump with a long suction that drew from the bottom of the tank. It would remove the water in 5-10 minutes. I have no idea if modern stations even do this. BTW, I did get a tank full of bad gas a few years ago. It cost about $1000 by the time the fuel system was cleaned and repaired. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 12:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad gas recourse - was Saab stranded me in cold uh. Yes It only takes a thimbleful of water. At 12:19 PM 1/19/2007, you wrote: Could the gas really be bad enough to cause my engine to flat quit? Leeee.. I own a gas station. I pay a buck 90 or so for gas. Gas has ethanol in it. Ethanol will suspend water. Water costs 3 or so cents per gallon. How could I increase my profit margin? I work on slim margins. hmmm What if I add water to the storage tank? Cheap, easy, and more bucks. All I have to do is figger out how much water i can put in the tank, based on how much water the alcohol will suspend, and the %alcohol in the gas... Now, what if this rube or the rube at the gasoline distributor put in a little more water than the alcohol can suspend? Or the station rube put in water but didn't know the distributor had already added water? Then there is condensation etc... Zoltan is stranded Saab won't run Recourse? add some de-icer to the tank, thaw out the Saab and go on. Anything else is a waste of time. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT House Build Quality
Give up. I don't think it has as much to do with the quality of material as it does with the quality of the workmanship. You will NEVER get a well-constructed house unless YOU supervise EVERY aspect of the build. Every builder I know hires teams of illegal aliens to do the construction. I do not think any of them know how to use a square or level. When I was a teenager, I worked for a builder who demanded quality work. If a wall was not within 1/8 inch of being square and plumb, he made you tear it out and rebuild it on your own time. I have NOT seen such quality work since. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 3:35 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT House Build Quality Okay, I know there's been a lot of OT lately (which I think keeps things fun), but I want to draw upon the knowledge our discriminating collective: As new-build houses go, how can one tell if a house is built with quality as opposed to corner-cutting cheapness? I know that new techniques are being used, such as a few pieces of plywood bonded together to make a 2 x 4. Is stuff like that okay, and what else is there to look out for? Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drivers door window problem, 81 240D
In case you need a Mercedes-Benz Power Window Lift Mechanism, I have one for $20 plus shipping. This is a used power window lift motor and mechanism for a Mercedes-Benz. It is sold as is because I purchased it from a recycler and never used it. Numbers on the mechanism are: Motor: FPE12V 0130, 821016 Mechanism: 116 730 2246 Rechts, 116 730 2146 Links, Brosa I have pictures if you are interested. Located in Houston, TX. ZIP 77043 Tom Potter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (832) 794-0536, (713) 215-2877, (713) 932-8182 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 12:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Drivers door window problem, 81 240D I think there are two bolts that hold the glass in its lower frame (which would be the top piece of the regulator assembly), if I am remembering correctly. Stick your hand in there and feel for them (there is an access hole in the door frame to get at them, but you might have to drop the glass a bit). You can put in a little wood wedge to hold the glass in place, remove those, and then drop the regulator to wrestle it out, see what the problem is. When I get a chance I'll look up on the CD what the arrangement is, my memory is a bit unclear as I usually do that job on autopilot. Once you feel it out, it is quite apparent what to do with it. --R Harry Watkins wrote: How is the horizontal metal piece attached to the glass? Perhaps if it can be removed with the glass still in the door, a repair/replacement would be simple. There is very little rust inside the door and it appears that the front mounting tab of the horizontal piece has broken. With it out, a weld job may do the trick. I have only removed the door panel, worked the window back up and disabled the switch. The car is still being used while I await the free expert advice from this list. Thanks Harry On 1/10/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You just need to take off the door panel (lift STRAIGHT UP so you don't break the map pocket tabs), take out the regulator (which is the frame that makes the whole thing go up and down) and check it out. There are only a few (3?) bolts on the whole thing, the glass is attached by 2 (one of which is probably broken or fallen out and is in the bottom of the door), put a little wood wedge between the glass and the window frame to hold it up while you remove the regulator). It is quite apparent how to do this if you look at it for a minute. The second time you do all this it will take less than an hour to take it out, fool with it, and put it back. Clean/grease everything while you are in there. It is a bit fiddly to take out, but comes out/goes in easily. Can't tell from your note if you already have it apart, but that is what you need to do. --R Harry Watkins wrote: A bad place to have a window problem is after you've paid $6 for a car wash, the green light says, come one in and the window goes up in the rear half only. It appears there may be a broken attaching point near the front of the glass. I was able to pry it back level and there is a bolt nearby what I think is broken. Can anyone give me a hint? The part I am looking at seems to be what the bottom of the glass is sitting in, or is attached to. I've got it back up and closed while You guys set me straight. Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Drivers door window problem, 81 240D
I don't have that part, but you could probably find it at a recycler. I replaced a driver's window in my '81 300D several years ago. If I remember correctly, the glass just fit TIGHTLY into a rubber insert in the track. This was 6-7 years ago, so my memory is a bit foggy. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Watkins Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 1:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Drivers door window problem, 81 240D Tom My lift mechanism seems in good shape, its the window attachment track that's broke. Thanks Harry On 1/11/07, Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In case you need a Mercedes-Benz Power Window Lift Mechanism, I have one for $20 plus shipping. This is a used power window lift motor and mechanism for a Mercedes-Benz. It is sold as is because I purchased it from a recycler and never used it. Numbers on the mechanism are: Motor: FPE12V 0130, 821016 Mechanism: 116 730 2246 Rechts, 116 730 2146 Links, Brosa I have pictures if you are interested. Located in Houston, TX. ZIP 77043 Tom Potter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (832) 794-0536, (713) 215-2877, (713) 932-8182 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 12:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Drivers door window problem, 81 240D I think there are two bolts that hold the glass in its lower frame (which would be the top piece of the regulator assembly), if I am remembering correctly. Stick your hand in there and feel for them (there is an access hole in the door frame to get at them, but you might have to drop the glass a bit). You can put in a little wood wedge to hold the glass in place, remove those, and then drop the regulator to wrestle it out, see what the problem is. When I get a chance I'll look up on the CD what the arrangement is, my memory is a bit unclear as I usually do that job on autopilot. Once you feel it out, it is quite apparent what to do with it. --R Harry Watkins wrote: How is the horizontal metal piece attached to the glass? Perhaps if it can be removed with the glass still in the door, a repair/replacement would be simple. There is very little rust inside the door and it appears that the front mounting tab of the horizontal piece has broken. With it out, a weld job may do the trick. I have only removed the door panel, worked the window back up and disabled the switch. The car is still being used while I await the free expert advice from this list. Thanks Harry On 1/10/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You just need to take off the door panel (lift STRAIGHT UP so you don't break the map pocket tabs), take out the regulator (which is the frame that makes the whole thing go up and down) and check it out. There are only a few (3?) bolts on the whole thing, the glass is attached by 2 (one of which is probably broken or fallen out and is in the bottom of the door), put a little wood wedge between the glass and the window frame to hold it up while you remove the regulator). It is quite apparent how to do this if you look at it for a minute. The second time you do all this it will take less than an hour to take it out, fool with it, and put it back. Clean/grease everything while you are in there. It is a bit fiddly to take out, but comes out/goes in easily. Can't tell from your note if you already have it apart, but that is what you need to do. --R Harry Watkins wrote: A bad place to have a window problem is after you've paid $6 for a car wash, the green light says, come one in and the window goes up in the rear half only. It appears there may be a broken attaching point near the front of the glass. I was able to pry it back level and there is a bolt nearby what I think is broken. Can anyone give me a hint? The part I am looking at seems to be what the bottom of the glass is sitting in, or is attached to. I've got it back up and closed while You guys set me straight. Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL
Re: [MBZ] Fun in the cold this morning
The answer to A is YES. I had a 280Z that would not turn over the engine. The battery indicated a full 12 volts, all the connections were clean and tight, but it would not turn the starter. Just for grins, we stuck in another battery, and it started right up. We took the battery and had it tested. It showed two cells bad, and would carry almost no load. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 6:18 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Fun in the cold this morning So... as of last night I was thinking well it's supposed to be around 15F this morning so I'll see how my 83' 300D handles that temp. Woke up this morning and it was 25F, Pff, no problem. Well... Something funky seemingly with the battery... It ran the glow plugs fine, but barely turned over the engine. OK, get the charger... Try to start. Get some almost starting, but not quite. So... after a good while of monkeying I found out: A) The battery charger seemed to think that the battery was about full, yet it would barely turn the engine over on it's own. (Have I got some issue where my battery still has voltage, but has lost it's amps?) B) My fuel gauge has only ever read lower than normal, but apparently the sputtering I dealt with last night on the side of the road for a few minutes was because I was down to about a gallon of fuel and while sitting in the driveway with the left side lower there was effectively no fuel. Had to borrow a couple gallons of kerosene from the farm and prime for a while. I filled her up with diesel this morning and she started fine after that. We'll see how she does this afternoon. Of course it's supposed to be up to around 40F or higher by then. I'm just surprised, this battery has yet to show any problems (other than when the dog turns on the hazard lights for a few hours and I then try to start it) and it showed no problems yesterday at 20F a couple times. But this morning it suddenly loses amps? (I'm assuming the battery charger is looking at voltage and that the voltage must be fairly high if it's showing as pretty much full...) Ahh well... If the battery IS the problem, seems like someone said that Wal-mart had a 1000Amp battery that was a direct replacement? Anyone have the model number? Or somewhere else where I could get a reasonably priced GOOD battery? i.e. I don't want to pay 3 times as much for the same battery that says Mercedes on it and I don't want to get a 350amp battery Thanks! Levi (: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Totally OT Ford Explorer
This sounds facetious, but it is close to the truth. Remember, you are NOT working on a Mercedes. THEY do NOT WANT you to fix ANYTHING. THEY go to a lot of effort to make sure you cannot make any repairs. For example, look at the connections for a Ford fuel filter. Take note of the weird taillight bulbs. On older Ford trucks, this is a 4-hour job (at least). Not that GM is any better. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 7:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Totally OT Ford Explorer Yup - trade it for another car ;-) On 12/6/06, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone replaced the dash lights on a 1997 Explorer. The lights in the cluster (behind the speedo and other gauges) are out on my Wife's car. Just wondering if anyone has any idea how to change them? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Semi O.T. Lens Polish
I have heard that you can use toothpaste, though I have not yet tried it. I plan to check it out on my granddaughter's Celica soon. If anyone comes up with a GOOD solution, please post. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 7:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Semi O.T. Lens Polish There was a product that we used to use to polish up aircraft windows and the windshield (which are Plexiglas) - I think it was a Maguires plastic polish or something like that. It might help. The headlight lenses on my wife's '97 Plymouth van are getting quite foggy and I was thinking about trying to find some for it. Though I suspect that Jim is right --- On 11/2/06, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was looking at my daughter's Toyota and noticed that the lenses are not as clear as they were, so, I was wondering if there is a product to polish/clear plastic head lamp lenses? Dollar bills, applied in quantity, seem to be about the only thing that actually works. -- Jim -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D Steering box change
The pitman arm may be in a different position on the gearbox. You may need to remove and reinstall the pitman arm to get the steering wheel centered. I have not read up on the proper installation, but I suspect you need to make sure the gearbox is in the center of travel and adjust everything else to that. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 6:02 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 83' 300D Steering box change OK, so I swapped out the steering box in my 83' 300D. I haven't driven it much yet, but someone explain this to me: --As near as I can tell, the steering shaft from the steering wheel to the box is more or less slotted with a knotch where the allen bolt tightens down the clamp from the box around the shaft as well as so that the shaft could not slide out of the box as long as the allen bolt is in place. So... If that's the case, then when swapping gearboxes, what could allow the wheel to not be straight when the old one was? It's just off a ways, not like 180 degrees. Or is there some adjustment where the steering arm attaches to the box? (My replacement box had an arm connected so I disconnected at the tie rod ends.) I guess my main concern is that I could not have somehow gotten the shaft in partially turned where it could potentially slip. -Other minor issue: Where exactly is that power steering filter supposed to be? My pump went dry and I was looking at the bottom of the reservoir which appeared to just be flat with a few holes. I have a new filter and I didn't see anything in the pump that looked like that unless it's submerged down in flush with the bottom of the reservoir. I was wondering if someone just took it out at some point. But it would seem like they would have had to have put in a different spring at that point as well... Anyway... NOT a fun job to do by oneself. Without another 6 inches to my arms it was near impossible to get the new box in and line up the bolts by myself.(which got more fun out in the gravel driveway as the sun went away) (: Luckily the wife came home and managed to get the bolts started while I manuevered the box. Thanks! Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Partly OT - cold air into exhaust
Hear! Hear! I cast my vote for Larry. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 8:41 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Partly OT - cold air into exhaust Let's all vote Larry T for Jaloponist of the Year with that amazingly cost-effective solution. On 10/28/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Larry. I'll consider the liquid nails next. Brian On 10/28/06, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know if this will work in your application, but my rear resonator/muffler/whatever it;s called had some pin holes in the leading surface area - not wanting to spend the $300+ for a new one I tried Liquid Nails Project Adhesive. It comes out of the tube (like a caulk tube) and I spread it and forced it into the holes. Once it dried (about 2 hours IIRC) I started it (my 91 300D) up and let the resonator get good and warm - the Liquid Nails has set up hard as concrete and after 3 months is still working fine. This is the car my wife drives to work - ~110 mi RT. While it's drying I would not recommend starting the engine until its had time to set up completely. When it is no longer dented by a finger nail, it's dry. A tube of Liquid Nails is ~$5 at W'mart or Home Depot, or lowes. Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Partly OT - cold air into exhaust Ahhh BTDT. Rather than JB Weld get a soup can (or green beans or whatever you have) and some hose clamps. Cheaper (especially if you can get free hose clamps at the wreckers) and easier... -Curt - Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.16/504 - Release Date: 10/27/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Old Rifles
My dad had a lever action Winchester 38-40 for a while. I remember it having an octagonal barrel, and it used a short cartridge. It was nice, but we could not use it for hunting in the lowlands of NC. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:23 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Old Rifles Of all the guns my Dad owns there are only 3 I really care about and they're all Winchester lever guns. 2 model 94s, one is serial number 5,xxx in 38-55, fully octagonal barrel, no hood on the front sight. The other is later but has the very rare semi-octagonal barrel its chambered in 32 Winchester. The third rifle is a model 71 in .348 Winchester that I used when I shot a moose in '99. -Curt Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 23:15:44 -0400 From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Old Rifles To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed yes, closed doors. there are lots of efforts to find someone to take over, so there is some hope. the 94 was a john browning design and would be the lever action we would generally have the greatest familiarity with. it's a sweet gun, but you find most of them in 30-30, which is just not that interesting a cartridge for me. the gun is of such worth that it was produced up until the factory closed its doors a few months ago. so many of brownings guns are as useful today as they day they were first produced. i mean, is there really a better pistol than the 1911? - Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Old Rifles
I am not sure whether it was a 94 or not. I remember the bullets being flat on the end--not pointed. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:17 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Old Rifles I didn't think the 94 was chambered in pistol cartridges like the 38-40 although it may have been. The 38-55 is a much longer cartridge although it uses the same diameter bullets. It was good on most large game out to about 100 yards although its a bit small for moose. It was also quite popular as a paper puncher out to 200 yards because of its flat tradjectory. -Curt Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 08:29:09 -0500 From: Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Old Rifles To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My dad had a lever action Winchester 38-40 for a while. I remember it having an octagonal barrel, and it used a short cartridge. It was nice, but we could not use it for hunting in the lowlands of NC. Tom Potter - Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail. - Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] heading out
Have a safe trip and have fun. I wish I could make it. Maybe next year. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:27 AM To: Banned List; Mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] heading out Heading out to the RustyQ, be back Monday. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Old Rifles
I never really thought about it before, but it sure makes sense upon reflection. Those little pointy bullets probably would not work well jammed up against another center fire cartridge--or maybe they would work too well. I learn something every day. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:25 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Old Rifles lever actions can't feed spitzer type bullets. the paradigm for lever actions are flat and kinda stumpy up against flat and stumpy. that's why you see all the lever actions in 30-30 and not 30 '06. On 10/26/06, Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not sure whether it was a 94 or not. I remember the bullets being flat on the end--not pointed. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:17 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Old Rifles I didn't think the 94 was chambered in pistol cartridges like the 38-40 although it may have been. The 38-55 is a much longer cartridge although it uses the same diameter bullets. It was good on most large game out to about 100 yards although its a bit small for moose. It was also quite popular as a paper puncher out to 200 yards because of its flat tradjectory. -Curt Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 08:29:09 -0500 From: Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Old Rifles To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My dad had a lever action Winchester 38-40 for a while. I remember it having an octagonal barrel, and it used a short cartridge. It was nice, but we could not use it for hunting in the lowlands of NC. Tom Potter - Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail. - Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 450SL tranny update, and rough running
Oh yes, that was one of the first things I noticed about the Mercedes vehicles. They were like a slot car at speed. They felt so stable and secure as opposed to Detroit iron, which took two hands and white knuckles to drive over 65 mph. Tom Potter ... I think owning this MB was when I first noticed the way the suspension changed (or maybe my 69 280SE) -- when I got to around 80mph or so - it seems to do it in all the MBs I've owned - at high speed the suspension, like,... changes - it kind of 'hunkers down' and the ride gets so smmoth! It's an amazing feeling actually - it's like being in a totally diffferent car. The pavement strips get virtually silent and the bumps disappear - and the car seems to float down the road. I suspect some others of you have felt the same thing --
Re: [MBZ] 1966 200D, 110 Chassis
I had a 1967 230 (gasser). I think it was better built than the later M-Bs, though I was not a fan of the fins. It was a rock solid body and engine. I never had any problem finding parts. It had a heater fan. In fact, I still have an good heater core, if anyone needs it. I also have the factory manual, if anyone is interested. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 9:41 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1966 200D, 110 Chassis In a message dated 10/20/2006 12:33:36 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Besides Marshall anyone have any experience with the 110 chassis and the 200D. I looked at one today, very little rust at all, owner who is the 3rd has done alot of work. Car has 100,000 miles all gauges work, original radio works. Needs some door seals, an rear window seals. interior in real good shape. Alot of chassis work has been done. Whole trunk load of parts. Engine started right up, no smoke ran nice. Needs a clutch cylinder (I could not drive it) and needs to be run like all diesels, they do not make for good pieces of furniture. Do these things have a Fan or is it the old VW heat, ie natural aspiration? How are the engines compared to the 617 and 616 non turbos? Is it easy to get parts? Any thoughts you could share please ect ect ect. I think this would make a great daily driver but I am a 123 chassis diesel guy... Thanks Tom Scordato Tom, Buy it! Do not let anyone sit on the seats until you Leatherique them to get them soft again. When brittle, crumbling and cracking may damage them beyond repair. These are great cars, nearly unbreakable, and pretty reliable. There is a fan and it has probably failed. Interestingly, the coolant system in mine worked on natural convection, as I found out when I broke the fan belt once, some distance from home. The engines are stout but subject to timing chain failure, just like later diesels. Check the chain stretch as soon as you can, before you have a broken camshaft and cam tower bearings. I am pretty sure the 66 has 5 main bearings, parts are still available, especially since the creation of Mercedes' Classic shops. Worst case, a late 240D will just about drop in and with altitude compensation, won't smoke nearly as much as the original engines. Driving one of these will scare the crap out of your passengers, as the rule of momentum is paramount, sometimes slipsteaming and often drafting close behind big trucks. Go for it! . Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 146 K miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] FW: (no subject)
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Re: [MBZ] 300TD engine shut-off (or not)
The first step would be to find a vacuum diagram. Maybe someone has the CD for this vehicle and can send you a copy. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Euan Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 2:13 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 300TD engine shut-off (or not) Hi there colleague Benzers My 300TD has started to run on when I switch off. Because this happens mostly when the engine is cold and grumpy, I'm assuming (based on a recent thread) that it's a vacuum problem. I'm completely ignorant of how the pneumatic system shuts the engine down, so I'd be grateful if anyone knows where to start looking for the leak. Thanks Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 203K mi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] HELP MY KEYBOARD IS STUCK
Press the Caps Lock key at the left end of the keyboard. :) Tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:34 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] HELP MY KEYBOARD IS STUCK I CAN ONLY SEND MESSAGES IN ALL CAPS. PLEASE HELP. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] JOINED MBCA
Besides, we have our own club. It is in cyberspace, but it is a club in almost every sense. We have no clubroom or magazine, but we also pay no dues. I like it. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 1:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] JOINED MBCA that is my point. why belong to a club that behaves this way? so i don't belong to it anymore On 10/10/06, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well that's just wrong as well.That's no better than stealing, misappropriation at the least. Ridiculous really for club executive behavior. Childish even Mike - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] JOINED MBCA Mike Canfield wrote: I can sortof agree with you but if he CALLED he was wrong...friends don't narc on each otherIt's a matter of trust. Bluffing is one thing, calling the law is another. How about using club money to pay a lawyer to bluff you? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust
The muffler shop replaced the rear muffler on my 380SE for $65. I'm sure it was not GENUINE Mercedes, but it seemed to hold up OK. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mark maturo Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 12:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Exhaust My friend told me Adist had the Center and Rear mufflers for around 600. When I looked it up the exact price would be $655. I checked with Timevalve in CT mentioned in Peter Frederick's post.. they said 635.00 for the two mufflers. Can you get them for less? I didn't see anything on the website. Rusty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, that is a great price. Who gave you that quote? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mark maturo Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 8:02 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Exhaust My exhaust is rotting on my 1991 350SD. Priced the center and rear muffler and comes to around $600. Does anyone know if the center muffler can be eliminated. Is it for noise or emissions? Thanks Mark Maturo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] worst place on earth to drive - was: OM617 head
Man, does Jeff have it right! I drove in Cairo for a month and almost had heart failure every day. The streets did not even have lanes marked--not that it would matter anyway. It was every man for himself. There is nothing in the U.S. that remotely compares to it. Tom Potter (Who takes Houston traffic with a smile) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Zedic Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 10:41 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] worst place on earth to drive - was: OM617 head I agree with Hendriknone of those bad drivers would last ten seconds in Cairo or Tehran. In Tehran, not only do they not bother with lanes or stoplight colours, they don't even care what SIDE of the road they use! Not to mention the sidewalks! Ever feeling suicidal, try crossing the roads there as a pedestrian. lol Jeff Zedic Toronto ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 15 volt 22 microfarad tantalum capacitor.
Casey, I wish you were closer. I need someone to fix the bridge rectifier in my battery charger. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zeitgeist Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 9:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: 15 volt 22 microfarad tantalum capacitor. I need to locate a 15 volt 22 microfarad tantalum capacitor, w/Part #. 15 TA 22. Radio shack doesn't seem to carry these, so I'd like to find a good online electronic components retailer. I intend to solder this unit into the airflow meter on my van, to clear up some erratic running conditions. Which online retailers do you folks use? TIA Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (218k) '84 300D (216k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Synthetic jet fuel
Gas turbines are like diesels in that respect, they will burn anything you can get into the combustion chamber. I have seen them run on everything from gasoline blend to heavy oil. In most industrial applications, they use natural gas. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 11:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Synthetic jet fuel A B-52 will fly on just about anything that burns and is liquid -- JP-4, kerosene, jet fuel, gasoline/diesel blends, #1 deisel, #2 diesel, it's not picky. Some smoke more that others, some cause power loss, but that J-75 in military trim burns most anything. Modern jet passenger craft may be a steed of a different hue Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Change
There is an O-ring around the shaft that you should replace if it has not been replaced lately. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Tara Ludwick Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 12:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Filter Change 14.75-18.43 ft lbs, or 177-221 in lbs When you get the lid off, everything will be pretty self explanatory -Robert Lee Einer wrote: The Benz (1980 300CD)is due for an oil change. Happy to see the filter is accessible from the top of the engine (never done my own change on this beast before.) Plan to use Wilton's $2 supersucker to drain the oil. The Official CD is not terribly helpful. It indicates that I am to tighten the two fastening nuts on the filter to 20-25 NM. What is that in foot-pounds? Also, the diagram shows a shaft or tube running up through the middle with cryptic warnings that if I put it back together wrong my doom is immanent. Do I need to fiddle with the shaft thing and the spring on it in order to change the filter? Lee ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Synthetic jet fuel
Ah Yes, the FAA. What an anachronism. They have yet to recognize LORAN as an acceptable navigation instrument. Last I heard, they still demanded that you navigate by ADF--like Lindberg. I heard that a few years ago they wrote specifications for a landing aid that required tubes. The contractor had to go to China to get the tubes; nobody else manufactured them. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Brodbeck Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 1:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Synthetic jet fuel Potter, Tom E wrote: Gas turbines are like diesels in that respect, they will burn anything you can get into the combustion chamber. I have seen them run on everything from gasoline blend to heavy oil. In most industrial applications, they use natural gas. And automotive diesel is a common fuel for jet engines that have been repurposed to power dragsters and the like. (In aircraft that would be a serious no-no -- it might gel in the cold air at altitude.) The real question is a legal one. If this stuff is substantially different from normal jet fuel, the engines and fuel system will have to be recertified for it before the FAA will let airlines use it. If the savings are substantial enough, though, someone will pay for the testing to make that happen. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Falcon
Yes, but GM made NO effort to correct problems that existed for years (e.g. the high speed blower switch). Badge engineering and decals seems to be their forte. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 7:28 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Falcon I've scanned through all of these Ford / GM complaints and they are complaints of cars made in the 60's, including Mercedes!!! I guess no-one's had a 60's Mercedes with the crumbling climate control levers? Or a 114 / 115 body Mercedes with a failed blower motor? I could go on and on and on. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 5:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Falcon Ned said My brother and II drove a '63 Falcon for a couple of years. When the weather was really cold, the speedometer would peg and squeal until the dash thoroughly warmed up. My 240D did that last winter until I messed with it...and yes it is a Ford not a GM product/Tom - Original Message - From: ned kleinhenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Falcon And don't forget the little resistive coil inside the blower box that would fail for no apparent reason, on the coldest day of the year, while driving to work on the freeway, and cause the blower to fail to blow the defroster which failed to defrost the window and froze you while you could not see anything, causing you to take the whole system apart that dark cold afternoon at work with no proper tools, and trying to find out what was wrong, on the coldest day after coldest night of the year. Fine engineering. Uh - friends, The Falcon was a FORD product, not GM.. My brother and II drove a '63 Falcon for a couple of years. When the weather was really cold, the speedometer would peg and squeal until the dash thoroughly warmed up. And I do consider that Falcon blower system good engineering. The blower on my 124 failed in a similar manner, and there is no way in hell I could fix it in my employer's parking lot with no proper tools. Ned Kleinhenz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Falcon
I know Mike, but losing your headlights or your heat when you really really need them makes an impression that is hard to forget. :) We did truly rebuild engines under the shade tree with little more than a crescent wrench, pliers, and a table knife (no straight slot, we burned it up shorting the starter solenoid). Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Canfield Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 7:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Falcon Amazing how everyone remembers the little bad things about the cars..OOH Whoopee...a dimmer switch that goes bad, or a heater switch.I grew up driving cars like that and would much rather change out parts with a screwdriver and a crescent wrench in a bind than need special tools and a tow truck for a newer car. Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Falcon I've scanned through all of these Ford / GM complaints and they are complaints of cars made in the 60's, including Mercedes!!! I guess no-one's had a 60's Mercedes with the crumbling climate control levers? Or a 114 / 115 body Mercedes with a failed blower motor? I could go on and on and on. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 5:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Falcon Ned said My brother and II drove a '63 Falcon for a couple of years. When the weather was really cold, the speedometer would peg and squeal until the dash thoroughly warmed up. My 240D did that last winter until I messed with it...and yes it is a Ford not a GM product/Tom - Original Message - From: ned kleinhenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Falcon And don't forget the little resistive coil inside the blower box that would fail for no apparent reason, on the coldest day of the year, while driving to work on the freeway, and cause the blower to fail to blow the defroster which failed to defrost the window and froze you while you could not see anything, causing you to take the whole system apart that dark cold afternoon at work with no proper tools, and trying to find out what was wrong, on the coldest day after coldest night of the year. Fine engineering. Uh - friends, The Falcon was a FORD product, not GM.. My brother and II drove a '63 Falcon for a couple of years. When the weather was really cold, the speedometer would peg and squeal until the dash thoroughly warmed up. And I do consider that Falcon blower system good engineering. The blower on my 124 failed in a similar manner, and there is no way in hell I could fix it in my employer's parking lot with no proper tools. Ned Kleinhenz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Falcon
That was similar to the GM switch. Also, the GM blower high speed switch had 30+ amperes running through a slip-on connection, which tended to corrode, get loose, and consequently heat up and melt. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Brodbeck Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 12:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Falcon Potter, Tom E wrote: Yes, but GM made NO effort to correct problems that existed for years (e.g. the high speed blower switch). Badge engineering and decals seems to be their forte. 1980s-1990s VWs are famous for their melting blower switches, too. It comes down to cheapness...the switch is adequate for a new blower, but when they get old and start drawing more current, the switch heats up. A relay for the high speed would avoid the problem, but it'd cost an extra few bucks per car. Multiply that by a million or so cars and you're talking about real money. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OBDII Diagnostic Scanner
Does anyone have any experience with any of the OBDII Diagnostic Scan Tools that are offered for the laptop. I am thinking of buying one, but I have no idea which one is best.
Re: [MBZ] Falcon
I remember those foot-powered dimmers too. I had one of those that worked intermittently. I don't know who panicked most when the headlights went out when I tried to dim them; me or the oncoming traffic. And GM wonders why nobody wants their vehicles. They never could produce a heater fan switch that lasted very long. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John M McIntosh Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 1:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Falcon Ya, like the foot powered high/low beam switches that would get full of salty water there on the floor, corrode and break, resulting in no lights when you flipped from low to high. Or the turn signal switches made of cheap pot metal that would break while making a left turn across 6 lanes of traffic on a highway, fortunately steering wheels were really large so you could really torque them to the sound of snapping metal. And yes I was the villain that snapped up the last three speed fan switch (jam and break) (what you want heat at 40F below?) from GM inventory in Canada in the winter of 87.
Re: [MBZ] Can't Open Trunk
I am assuming this is a 123 model. On my 126, sometimes I could only unlock the trunk by unlocking the passenger door with a key. I have no idea why this worked, but it did. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Duff Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 5:27 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can't Open Trunk Thanks for the tips, I'll give them a try today. The button on the trunk lock will not go all the way in, it only moves about 1/4 inch. I thought it might have something to do with the factory alarm but I found the main pin connection under the driver's side dash and disconnected it. The vacuum system works fine as everything locks and unlocks with the drivers side door lock, except for the trunk. It seems like the hook on the latch is not moving. I'll use some WD-40 on it and see if it frees up. Alan Duff Knoxville, TN ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stalls in gear while weather is cool
It sounds to me like the choke is not working properly. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:49 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Stalls in gear while weather is cool hi all, I had the head decked on my 72 250 W114, took a while. I rebuilt the carburetor. Fired it up on Sunday, stalled. Tightened the choke plate and I was on the road. This morning, weather was a little cool, 65 vs 85 on Sunday, and it took a lot of coaxing to get her running. When I did, putting her in drive or reverse cased her to stall. Let her get to temperature, failed again. Any idea what may be causing this trouble? Thanks -- Original message -- From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] i thought oil pressure was a direct line to the IC, not electronic. On 9/19/06, Curt Raymond wrote: So this morning on my way to work I have no electronic gauges on my '85 190D, thats fuel/oil/temp/tach. Speedo works fine as does the clock. I *think* I've also got a headlight out (no time to check) but that might be a coincidence. I'm thinking its probably a fuse so I'll check that at lunch. Otherwise maybe a bad ground in the cluster, I had an issue with that on my 240D but I'm thinking that would kill the clock too. -Curt - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2ยข/min or less. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Stalls in gear while weather is cool
I admire you; those are the most complicated carburetors in existence. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Trampas Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 1:14 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stalls in gear while weather is cool ..., I use to be able to rebuild quadra-Jets in my sleep. Trampas
Re: [MBZ] OT 1990 Suburban 6.2 diesel tranny q's
Since I won't go too much further off topic here. Does anyone have a VSS for an older model 700R4 from an early '80s Pontiac Firebird. I need the one with the gear drive in the transmission and the electronic output for the electronic speedometer. I swapped an older 700R4 into my 1992 GMC and now I have no speedometer until I find a proper VSS. The newer model VSS is operated by a reluctor ring on the transmission tailshaft. Swapping a reluctor onto the older transmission can be done, but it is a lot of work. From what research I have done, I understand that the early '80s Pontiac Firebirds had the electronic speedometer with the gear drive on the tailshaft. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT 1990 Suburban 6.2 diesel tranny q's They used the 700r4 up till 92. But yes, its set up different than the gasser versions. Fmiser wrote: rumor has it that Potter, wrote: Now that I think of it, are you sure that vehicle has a 700R4. I thought it came with a TH400 (aka 3L80 or 4L80). I don't think the 700R4 was used with the diesel, though I am not sure. Tom Potter It was, but not necessarily in `90. I got a used transmission for my 85 petrol suburban out of an 86 diesel. It was a 700R4, but the torque converter and shiftpoints are different than for the petrol. -- Philip, wishin' I had a Cummins in mine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dry Ice and Dents
I had a 6 dent taken out by this method, and they did a great job. I can't tell it ever was there. I suppose it depends on the person doing the job, but I was very satisfied. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoltan Finks Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 9:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dry Ice and Dents Hmm. Tempting. The consensus seems to be that most of the time, a good result can be expected. I'm sure there's a limit to how bad the dent can be and still have this work. I've heard mention of hail damage - that would seem to be small dings. My dent is more like a pushed-in area on the pass. rear door. Not too bad, in fact somewhat hard to notice. But the area of damage spans about a foot in radius, and unfortunately, crosses the horizontal crease in the door. Wonder if that's the sort of thing that dentless handles. Brian 83 240D On 9/13/06, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A lot of those guys just have trucks and their set of tools and come to you. They don't need a shop. --R any of these places around the Washington, DC, Baltimore, PA, Virginia area? I have on on the left side fromt of the rear door. Rhonald ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT 1990 Suburban 6.2 diesel tranny q's
I agree with this wholeheartedly. There are beefed up components and cheap components for them. You get the good stuff only if you pay for it. In addition, there are cheap and quality torque converters. I would also install a transmission cooler. Now that I think of it, are you sure that vehicle has a 700R4. I thought it came with a TH400 (aka 3L80 or 4L80). I don't think the 700R4 was used with the diesel, though I am not sure. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT 1990 Suburban 6.2 diesel tranny q's If I was going to rebuild a 700R4, I would spend a little extra and have it beefed up for towing. Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: Bad news, tranny needs a rebuild, good news, tranny rebuild cheap and tranny not too hard to pull and stuff. If it's already slipping, it's not long for this world. Check local cheapie papers, may find a place with a coupon that will do the whole job for under $500. ---Robert kevin kraly wrote: I found a 1990 Suburban 4X4 for $595 with a 6.2 diesel engine. The only major problem is that the transmission slips in reverse. Is this fixable without removing the tranny? I haven't seen the truck, so I don't know the overall condition of it. I know that Klebbie has one of these that just keeps on going. Is this beast worth pursuing? It may work out great having the dodge tow the travel trailer with a diesel 'burb towing the boat. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon, no diesel Mercedes yet ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Comair crash
They mowed the grass on your runways. Hell, here in Texas we keep it short with the prop. I thought all grass strips had the power line at one end and 80-foot trees at the other. Again, this IS Texas. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fmiser Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 1:21 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Comair crash rumor has it that OK wrote: You knew you were making a good landing when you could hear the tires in the grass before they touched the ground. Either that on the grass needed to be mowed! -- Philip, from tall-grass prairie territory ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '82 300 CD excessive oil usage-update
The neatest trick I know for removing bushings is to use a bottoming tap. When the tap hits the bottom of the hole, it will draw the bushing out. I think I learned this from my TR4-A generator repair procedure. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 10:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '82 300 CD excessive oil usage-update Hi Dave, *Somewhere* there's a reference book with the size of those bushings used in that Garrett Turbo - the trick is to find it. ;-) Does it look like it can be pressed out? Or does it need some engineered coaxing? (BFH) Of course, if it's not too damaged a machine ship could make a copy of it - shouldn;t cost too much - assuming you can't find one on a shelf. I'll let you kow if I find anything about that Turbo - it's good to hear you're the kind who likes to fix things - rather than throwing money at a problem - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '82 300 CD excessive oil usage-update The Mercedes WIS program says it's a Garrett TB03. The compressor housing is labeled Air Research 42. From what I can tell, there are a lot of different models of TB03's. This one has the compressor bearing pressed into the aluminum plate that supports the housing. Does not look like it is made to come apart again easily. Thanks -Dave Walton 87SDL, 94S350, 99E300 On 9/7/06, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you wrote:They do not sell turbo parts. They do not fix them either - at least not the dealers Hi Dave, I kinda figured -- but I was thinking the manufacturer of the Turbo would sell the parts or rebuild yours/sell you a rebuilt Turbo - MB does not make the Turbos, I'm 99% certain as MB makes *very* few parts, except for possibly the block - as they mostly assemble cars.. It's either KKK or possibly Garrett which was renamed Honeywell Turbo Technologies in the mid 90s. Rusty can probably tell you exactly who makes the MB turbos - or he can probably get a Turbo rebuild kit for you. I'll see if I can find the manufacturer in my info - Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '82 300 CD excessive oil usage-update Mercedes will be more than happy to sell me an entire turbo for about 10 times more than I paid for my first car. They know me well and when they saw the price, they just shook their heads knowing I would not like what they had to tell me. They do not sell turbo parts. They do not fix them either - at least not the dealers around me. -Dave Walton 87SDL, 94S350, 99E300 On 9/7/06, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you wrote:if I could get the parts, I would not need to buy a used one from the junkyard. I'd rebuild the one I have. Does that mean MB does not sell the parts? Or you haven't tried to get the rebuild parts? I wonder if they're available from the turbo manufacturer? Can't recall the name at the moment but they're a subsidiary of Allied-Signal now Honeywell. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '82 300 CD excessive oil usage-update Yes, I replaced the bent rod (# 1). Cylinders looked good. Blowby is minimal. I am relatively confident the problem is with the turbo, but am unwilling to spend the $400 to buy one from a junkyard that was pulled from a wreck and probably needs a rebuild. But if I could get the parts, I would not need to buy a used one from the junkyard. I'd rebuild the one I have. -Dave Walton 87SDL, 94S350, 99E300 On 9/6/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dave walton wrote: I have the same
Re: [MBZ] '82 300 CD excessive oil usage-update
They can't be that complicated; they are only a spinning wheel on bearings. The only tricky part I see is balancing the wheel if necessary. That may take some special machinery. I admit I have never rebuilt one, thought I have rebuilt many jet engines. Tom Potter (Ex ADJ-1) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve MacSween Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 12:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '82 300 CD excessive oil usage-update There is some difference of opinion here, on whether turbos are 'user-serviceable' or not. I fall on the side of the fence that says they are a machine-shop service item, and even then only a shop that works on turbos regularly. If you have a heavy truck service outlet in your area, ask them who rebuilds their turbos. You may find they send them out of town to a big turbo rebuilder; often these operations sell on an exchange basis. Put it this way: I know two guys who rally on the pro circuit, and build their own engines, and even they won't mess with a turbo themselves. -- Mac Steve MacSween Aylmer, Quebec (Canada) Mercedes: '82 300sd / '82 240d (x2) / '60 220s on 9/7/06 9:45 AM, dave walton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mercedes will be more than happy to sell me an entire turbo for about 10 times more than I paid for my first car. They know me well and when they saw the price, they just shook their heads knowing I would not like what they had to tell me. They do not sell turbo parts. They do not fix them either - at least not the dealers around me. -Dave Walton 87SDL, 94S350, 99E300 On 9/7/06, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you wrote:if I could get the parts, I would not need to buy a used one from the junkyard. I'd rebuild the one I have. Does that mean MB does not sell the parts? Or you haven't tried to get the rebuild parts? I wonder if they're available from the turbo manufacturer? Can't recall the name at the moment but they're a subsidiary of Allied-Signal now Honeywell. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '82 300 CD excessive oil usage-update Yes, I replaced the bent rod (# 1). Cylinders looked good. Blowby is minimal. I am relatively confident the problem is with the turbo, but am unwilling to spend the $400 to buy one from a junkyard that was pulled from a wreck and probably needs a rebuild. But if I could get the parts, I would not need to buy a used one from the junkyard. I'd rebuild the one I have. -Dave Walton 87SDL, 94S350, 99E300 On 9/6/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dave walton wrote: I have the same problem in my S350. Ouch. Increased inter-cranial pressure caused by blowby. That's supposed to be common, said blowby being caused by bent connecting rods and oval cylinders. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.0/439 - Release Date: 9/6/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '82 300 CD excessive oil usage-update
I agree with Dave's philosophy. I am not comfortable with machinery that is designed so that I cannot work on it. Either the engineer did not know how to properly design it, or he purposely designed it so that I would have to spend lots of money to fix it. Simplicity is elegance in design. Complexity is an admission that one lacks a comprehension of physics (aka Rube Goldberg). Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dave walton Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '82 300 CD excessive oil usage-update You mark the position of the turbines on the shaft and put them back in the same place when you are done. You are just swapping some frigging brass bushings. You can believe they are somehow magical and that you need to belong to the club or end up in hell if you try to break the code of silence, but I believe in physics. I have seen inside the wonders of the turbo and can tell you from experience that there ain't no magic in there. I am fully aware that I risk royally screwing things up by working on them myself - and I still choose to do so. I learn NOTHING by sending it out for repair. I'll admit that I have made some expensive mistakes with this philosophy, but they were mine to make. If you follow the Mercedes Guidelines on 'user-serviceable', we would not even be changing our own oil. -Dave Walton 87SDL, 94S350, 99E300 On 9/7/06, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is some difference of opinion here, on whether turbos are 'user-serviceable' or not. I fall on the side of the fence that says they are a machine-shop service item, and even then only a shop that works on turbos regularly. If you have a heavy truck service outlet in your area, ask them who rebuilds their turbos. You may find they send them out of town to a big turbo rebuilder; often these operations sell on an exchange basis. Put it this way: I know two guys who rally on the pro circuit, and build their own engines, and even they won't mess with a turbo themselves. -- Mac Steve MacSween Aylmer, Quebec (Canada) Mercedes: '82 300sd / '82 240d (x2) / '60 220s on 9/7/06 9:45 AM, dave walton at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mercedes will be more than happy to sell me an entire turbo for about 10 times more than I paid for my first car. They know me well and when they saw the price, they just shook their heads knowing I would not like what they had to tell me. They do not sell turbo parts. They do not fix them either - at least not the dealers around me. -Dave Walton 87SDL, 94S350, 99E300 On 9/7/06, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you wrote:if I could get the parts, I would not need to buy a used one from the junkyard. I'd rebuild the one I have. Does that mean MB does not sell the parts? Or you haven't tried to get the rebuild parts? I wonder if they're available from the turbo manufacturer? Can't recall the name at the moment but they're a subsidiary of Allied-Signal now Honeywell. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '82 300 CD excessive oil usage-update Yes, I replaced the bent rod (# 1). Cylinders looked good. Blowby is minimal. I am relatively confident the problem is with the turbo, but am unwilling to spend the $400 to buy one from a junkyard that was pulled from a wreck and probably needs a rebuild. But if I could get the parts, I would not need to buy a used one from the junkyard. I'd rebuild the one I have. -Dave Walton 87SDL, 94S350, 99E300 On 9/6/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dave walton wrote: I have the same problem in my S350. Ouch. Increased inter-cranial pressure caused by blowby. That's supposed to be common, said blowby being caused by bent connecting rods and oval cylinders. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Re: [MBZ] To tow or not to tow
Geez Man, you live in western NC. Them mountains be transmission killers without a trailer. I am no expert on M-B automatic transmissions, but I do have experience destroying GM automatic transmissions by towing with them. The automotive and light truck transmissions heat up significantly and destroy the clutches if you add much trailer weight. I would only tow with the heavy duty truck transmissions. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard and Suzanna McGee Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:02 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] To tow or not to tow Have lurked here for years now and thanks to all who have brought light to my occasional issues. I know this has been covered in ages past but I can't remember the details so I hope some of you will fill me in. I need to use my 82 300D Turbo to do some towing of a 5 x 8 foot enclosed cargo trailer. I can't find any information on limits or towing capacities on this vehicle. I first need to add the hitch. Where is the best place to look? I should reject any idea of bumper mounted hitches, right? I'm interested in towing 1500 - 2000 lbs. Will the vehicle do it safely? What about stress on the transmission? What should I consider as an acceptable tongue weight? Please advise if you have experience with these issues. Thanks, D. McGee Western NC 1982 300D w/215K 1979 350 SEL Euro 4sp. Stick gasser (sold) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Off Topic OT - '01 Audi A4 Oil Loss
It sounds to me like the problem is possibly a sticking PCV valve. It should be cheap to replace. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:21 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Off Topic OT - '01 Audi A4 Oil Loss Howdy, A friend has a '01 A4 Audi which is losing oil - usually all at once - also there's the ocassional smell of oil - and puffs of smoke as his wife drives away. Can't see any leaks. I suggested he keep the level at 1/2 beween the low and high but we'll have to wait and see how it does. Does anyone have any experience with these cars? It's been maintained by the book - regular (3k-5k mi) oil filter changes - is there any inherent problems with these cars? Any websites with info about Audi's? TIA ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Problem with threads on rear hub
Dang, why did I not think of that. I actually have several of those that I made over the years. We are definitely old school. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John W. Reames III Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 7:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Problem with threads on rear hub Sacrifice a lug-bolt by creatively cutting a slot along the threads near the bottom (off-center, ie about 1/3 way in from the top right with the bolt end facing you).. make the slot about 6 threads long and a bit deeper than the threads themselves (it can taper to nothing at the end closest to the head) ... Its basically a field-fabricated thread chaser. -j. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Short??
Did you properly seat (bed) the brake pads when you installed them? This is an important procedure that is often overlooked. It is more important for some types of pads than others. http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=85 Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Riessen Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 4:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Short?? ... Hendrik with bloody squeally brakes in the new 201..yes I put brake grease everywhere I possibly could..grr.but the sunroof suns
Re: [MBZ] OT hybrids (was: Re: A little question on biodieselrelavent to this list)
How does one jump (start) one of these little hermaphrodites? Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Desert Rat Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT hybrids (was: Re: A little question on biodieselrelavent to this list) None of the current breed of Hybrids have any external battery charging capabilities.
Re: [MBZ] Entirely OT
Try these folks. They have wide new balance shoes. I buy almost all my shoes from them. I wear an 8 EE (No jokes; I have heard them). http://www.wideshoes.com/ I agree with Larry that most folks should be wearing wider shoes. I am not sure whether it is vanity or just because wide shoes are do hard to find. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 11:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Entirely OT Hi Mitch - I'm also a big fan of New Balance - unfortunatly they don't make them in wide sizes - although I have a couple of pair that I wear anyway - but the Wides are *much* more comfortable - if you've never tried your size in a Wide I suggest you give it a try - IMHO a huge part of the population should be wearing Wides but because they're not available everywhere they buy Medium/Regular and suffer because of it. Anyway, just bought a pair of EasySpirit sneakers (yes, they make them for men also) ;-) and they're the lightest, most comfortable shoes I;ve ever worn. Sadly, they're Made in China - - it's getting hard to find something that's *not* made in China although I try - Have a nice weekend -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Entirely OT Rich Thomas wrote: If you wear another pair of socks, two pair total, you can go much longer. Socks $2, Shoes $70 -- you do the math! I rarely pay more than $30 for sneakers/running shoes. They usually have a manufacturing cost of $5 a pair or less these days, but the New Balance that I try to buy have a certain level of US content and likely cost more to make. My last shoe purchase: Meijer's (kind of like a midwest only Walmart) had a buy one, get one for a buck sale on all shoes. The $1 pair couldn't cost more than the pair you were paying for. They also had 25% off on New Balance. The sneakers I wanted were tagged $65, so they were a bit under $49. I picked up a pair of $50 Nunn Bush (now made in India) loafers for the office, paid a buck for the sneakers, and paid $51 for all. Normal discount store price on the shoes was $115. I could have just as easily bought two of the $65 running shoes for $50 total that day. I never pay more than half price for shoes at that store. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.6/427 - Release Date: 8/24/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nuclear Power -- WAS A little question on biodieselrelavent to this list
My curiosity is piqued. Do Europeans use the same shoe sizes as the U.S? Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nuclear Power -- WAS A little question on biodieselrelavent to this list Actually, in the early 80's we were building a Breeder Reactor near Oak Ridge Tn which would have used all the nuke waste presently stored at nuclear power plants around the country. Yeah, the high-level waste fuel material. The lower-grade stuff is really quite the problem, though, as it's just so bulky. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Brake Parts
I have no backup for my opinions, but I feel the NAPA brands are somewhat superior in quality to the McParts brands. NAPA also sells several levels of parts. I usually buy the best or second best. If you feel you can trust your parts counterman, ask his opinion. Also, check with your Indy. I would definitely NOT use the cheapest brake parts unless someone could prove the quality was there. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ned kleinhenz Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 3:11 PM To: Mercedes List Subject: [MBZ] OT Ford Brake Parts If someone could help me with this off-list, that may be better than talking about Fords on this list. I'm trying to service the brakes on my daughter's '91 Escort. Ford no longer sells any brake parts for this model - it's obsolete. (Another reason I really like my MBs, even my '80 300TD is not obsolete.) But Advance Auto, NAPA etc. all sell a wide assortment of calipers, rotors, pads etc for this Ford. For example, from Advance, I can order calipers made by Cardone, Bendix, Raybestos, Beck Arnley, Crown, or Motormite. There are some differences in prices. But is there any noticable difference in performance or quality? Does anybody have experience with this one? Thanks, Ned '95 E300D x2 '85 300D '80 300TD 89 BMW 325iC '91 Ford Escort Pony '97 Chrysler TC LXi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2007 C-Class
Well, it failed! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 8:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2007 C-Class thats because its a test car Hendrik Riessen wrote: Looks kinda ugly, those little headlights look weird, there is no star on it, the colours don't match and the paint is not shiny. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 6:16 AM Subject: [MBZ] 2007 C-Class http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/secret_new_car.php?sid=22page=1 RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 268.11.1/421 - Release Date: 16/08/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2nd time - Brake Problem 1990 300 SE - 126
My money is on a bad (or loose) wheel bearing. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:34 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2nd time - Brake Problem 1990 300 SE - 126 1. I have had a thump, thump when applying the brakes. If there's no visible brake problem, you could have something loose like a wheel bearing or brake rotor. Try disabling the ABS, an easy way would be to pull the overvoltage relay and take a quick test drive. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: It's green chile time here in New Mexico
I fancy that Negro Modelo myself. It sure goes good with a bowl of red. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Rentfro Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 8:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: It's green chile time here in New Mexico Nothing in the world smells better and is more relaxing than roasting chiles I ususlly get a bag, raost in while pounding down Negro Modelo, and then freeze most of the finished product for use throughout the year. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 157K '87 Acura Legend 177K Still waiting on '72 350SL 78K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 6:19 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: It's green chile time here in New Mexico Bought a 30# bag of mild chile peppers (my wife can't handle anything hotter) which turned out to weigh 40#. Because of rain and lightning, the store's roaster out front was shut down, so I've been roasting them under our oven's broiler this afternoon. It takes a while. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of compressors: automatic draining
It is hard to tell from the pictures, but it probably works like the old steam traps--some sort of float inside that lifts the valve until the liquid level drops the float again. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Knight Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 9:44 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Speaking of compressors: automatic draining : http://makeashorterlink.com/?G4565299D Anybody got a clue as to how this thing might function, or what might be a better way to control water buildup in a compressor tank? I've got a small compressor that I'm intending to install into an enclosure outside the garage with on/off switch, manifold FRL inside would rather not have to hike out to the unit every time it occurs to me that the tank might be due for draining. -joe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 115 300D Fuel Hose Q
Are you sure it is not overflow from refueling. The overflow hose runs out the bottom. Notice the small hole in the bottom of the refueling area behind the gas flap. It connects to a drain hose. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 3:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 115 300D Fuel Hose Q Just noticed that my car is dripping deisel fuel from the area sort of behind the right rear tire but ahead of the fuel tank. I am assuming this is about where the feed line from the fuel tank comes out and that I need to change the rubber bit that goes from the tank to the metal line. I have not crawled under yet so I don't know what I am going to find. Is the hose something special with a fitting on the end that I need to order or is it just ordinary fuel hose and clamps? Is there a return line as well? Not leaking bad but is oozing as I get a spot on the floor - but not a real puddle. Just filled so a full tank. Too bad it didn't let me know before I filled up last week. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 250C questions
I have a few used spare parts (linkages, gaskets, etc.) for Zenith carburetors if anyone wants them. You pay shipping; you can have them. Tom Potter Houston, TX 77043 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:09 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 250C questions My brother has located a 1972 250C automatic Oh, and the four-speed automatic does not have a torque converter, only a fluid coupling. (Not sure that means anything, other than it has a low first gear to make up for it.) The dual Zenith carbs, when they're working right, work very well. They also are fairly trouble-free if they're not broken. It can be hard to find somebody who knows how to put them right, however. But once right they ought to stay that way for quite awhile. (And yours may be just fine.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Caravan brakes
I never understood the idea behind lifetime brake pads and shoes. Something must wear. If not the pad and shoes; the rotors and drums will wear. The whole point of a pad or shoe is to have something sacrificial that is easily replaced. I prefer replacing pads and shoes to rotors and drums. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:03 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Caravan brakes ... Another reason I like cheap pads and shoes that don't wear the drums and rotors; they don't rust to the drum or rotor! (MB content: cheap pads will let your rotors live longer) Loren Company 99 Caravan lotsa MBs
Re: [MBZ] Small Diesel PU
I am of the form should follow function school, so I think a truck should look like a...truck. While I am not experienced in the psychology of design, I do think certain forms evoke definite emotions from us. I am sure good designers have (or should have) studied this. I am not sure what emotions they hare hoping to evoke from us with some of the current designs such as the Element. Maybe they want us to think of our happier years in Kindergarten. Frankly, I prefer the young adult images evoked by the Jaguar XKE or the M-B 300SL (M-B content again). :) Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee Einer Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 7:53 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Small Diesel PU True, the Element is one of those that, from the back, looks like it has a load in its pants. But sometimes ugly can be good. I still like the look of the old Toyota FJ40s and the FJ55 (so ugly it was dubbed the Iron Pig.) Lee Potter, Tom E wrote: I agree that GM needs a new design department, but some of the Japanese stuff is UGL. Think Scion, Element, etc. Jesus, a 3-year old could do better. GM was doomed the day the accountants took over, as was D-C (M-B content). Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Zedic Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 1:08 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Small Diesel PU ...damn that GM stuff looks like a 10 yer old drew the conceptUGH Jeff Zedic Both feet on the ground in Toronto 87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] seized vehicle auction site
Here in Texas go to: http://www.lonestarauctioneers.com/ They have stuff in other states too. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Tara Ludwick Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:13 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] seized vehicle auction site Lets see... they want you to pay money up front just for the privilege of finding out what they are doing.. sounds like a ripoff to me. If you want to see real seized and abandoned vehicles and not have to pay anything search the net there are a few site that clear vehicles for various municipalities. this site sometimes has a bunch, sometimes like this week, just surplus gvmt vehicles http://www.liquidation.com/list/c1008/cta/1.html ---Robert Christopher McCann wrote: anybody have any experience with this outfit? http://www.car-auction.com/ Thanks, Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1985 300SD, 215K, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 117K, little blue klatter box -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2ยข/min or less. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] Rolls Royce Parts
I saw one parked in a pasture with a couple of derelict trucks somewhere between Houston and Austin. Only in Texas would you find an abandoned Rolls. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Hall Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 3:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] [OT] Rolls Royce Parts Any recommendations for a Rolls Royce part supplier? Vehicle is a customer's 89 Silver Spur. Basically I'm looking for the Rusty of the Rolls Royce Scene. Vehicle owner has several MB's, so there is your MB content. TIA Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dr. Z Daimler-Chrysler commercial
I drove a Kia Optima rental car on a recent business trip, and I thought it was a bit sluggish. The fit and finish seemed decent, though I did not do a close inspection. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LT Don Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 10:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dr. Z Daimler-Chrysler commercial Not necessarily. The big Kia cars are almost a clone of the C-Class. I'd have to check the crash tests to be sure, though. http://www.internetautoguide.com/crash-tests/09-int/2006/mercedes-benz/c -class/index.html http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2006/kia/optima/safety/index.html D. On 8/5/06, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Prediction- If you are in a major accident driving a Korean or Chinese car you are gonna die. - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dr. Z Daimler-Chrysler commercial LT Don wrote: Prediction -- about the time I am too old to drive anymore, the Koreans will be able to lay claim to what was once Benz quality. Owning a Kia now will be like having owned an early 1970s Honda -- ashamed to drive it but you have a good car. Another prediction: I think the Chinese are about to do to the Koreans what the Koreans are doing to the Japanese. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/405 - Release Date: 1/08/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. BIODIESEL -- no oil war required. 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: intermitant fan - AC 1982 mercedes 300TD]
Have you tried wiggling the ignition key a bit? Sometimes if you turn it back about 10 degrees, it will make contact with the accessory lead if the electrical portion of the switch ist kaput. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Striplin Admin account Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:32 AM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] [Fwd: intermitant fan - AC 1982 mercedes 300TD] Original Message Subject:intermitant fan - AC 1982 mercedes 300TD Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:15:58 -0400 From: MICHAEL ESH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] The fan stops working after about 10 minutes of driving. The AC is nice and cold, just no air blowing. If I stop for several minutes and then restart the car the fan works great for another 10 minutes. Any solutions out there? Thanks in Advance, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] HF A/C gauges
WHAT TASTE? Almost anything will improve it. All lite beer is cheap; it is only water. If it is transparent, it is NOT REAL beer. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:59 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] HF A/C gauges ... I wonder if it would improve the taste of cheap lite beer?
Re: [MBZ] It couldn't be any hooter er hotter here.
Quityourbellyaching! That is normal weather for Houston for 9 months out of the year, 98 degrees F with 90 percent humidity. We are not in Hell, but you can see it from here. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:04 AM To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] It couldn't be any hooter er hotter here. Yesterday in Wichita, Kansas it was 110 degrees in the city - 109 in the suburbs. Today the weather is predicting 110 again. This sucks. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 129K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It couldn't be any hooter er hotter here.
We just want to SHARE our experience. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 1:29 PM To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] It couldn't be any hooter er hotter here. Tom P. wrote: Quityourbellyaching! That is normal weather for Houston for 9 months out of the year, 98 degrees F with 90 percent humidity. We are not in Hell, but you can see it from here. That is exactly my point. If I wanted to experience Houston weather, I would live in Houston. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 129K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT 500 PPM low sulphur ..
OTOH as I heard someone argue a few days ago, do you really want these people voting if they care so little about their government? It is a valid argument that those who care vote, and those who do not care do not vote. I think our system of government (or any other) requires more attention than we are willing to devote to it. I understand not being interested in voting when your choices are Tweedledum and Tweedledumber. Tom Potter (who does vote anyway) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Zedic Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 1:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT 500 PPM low sulphur .. Tom wrote: The sad thing is that they are elected officials. This means that a majority of the populace wants these crooks in office. Remember, our founding fathers warned us about a democratic system of government (The Federalist Papers, Madison). The sad thing is that any other system of government has worse flaws or opportunities for abuse. One small flaw in your argument Tom. The majority of Americans DON'T voteand then thy have the nerve to feel disenfranchised! I think the last turn out was 37% of registered voters. And then there's the actual system that is used and seems to be highly problematic Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just like Christmas!!
Randy, I also once had the idea that I wanted to be a teacher. Also, like you, I am very glad I did not pursue that path. I think I would have made a terrible teacher; I have so little patience. BTW, my daughter is also a special education teacher. I KNOW I could never do that. She definitely did not get her patience from me. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just like Christmas!! I think it takes special people to work with the handicapped. I am not sure that I would have the patience. At one time, I thought I wanted to be a teacher but I think in retrospect, it was probably a good thing that I did not follow through. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Rentfro Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 2:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just like Christmas!! I have many teachers in my family and I have many teachers as friends. Without exception the ones who feel most fulfulled and satisifed with their teaching are the ones who teach special needs kids. My sister teaches high school aged special needs kids. She was chosen by her peers as Teacher of the Year in her district and with that came offers of bigger and better things within the district. She declined them all to stay with her kids. Most special needs teachers are a special breed. You must have a good girl there, Rusty. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 156K '87 Acura Legend 175K '01 VW Beetle TDI 67K waiting on the '72 350SL 78K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 7:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just like Christmas!! She just graduated from Valdosta State University with a Bachelor of Education degree in Special Education and now is getting her Masters of Special Education. She will be teaching early childhood special needs kids as they are called now. She was told that she would have multiple jobs offers well before she graduates. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:36 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just like Christmas!! On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 17:15:19 -0400 Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And.help get my daughter through graduate school! To what school is she going? What's she studying? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ACC Fan Problem W124 '91 300D 2.5T
Did you try wiggling the ignition key a bit? I had to move mine back a bit from full ON position to get the ACC to work. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 6:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ACC Fan Problem W124 '91 300D 2.5T Hi Trampas, I tried the kicking method - no luck - then I looked for the fuse. I found the main GP 80A fuse directly in front (bumper side) of the master fuse box - at least I believe it's the main fuse for the GPs. Then I looked inside the master fuse box - the label said the fan motor was outside the fusebox. But I haven't found it. Along side the fuse box is a plug type affair - I unplugged it and it looks like an aluminum male plug going into a alum female receptacle. Does that have anything to do with it? I'm getting ready to search my workshop manuals The Bible for info on RR'ing the motor/cage along with any fuse location info - but they kinda assume the reader is able to find fuses! ;-\ I'd like to change it myself - for the satisfaction. And I'll know how to do it next time - I plan to keep this car a long time. It just turned 107k - it wasn't driven regularily before we bought it last Feb - so I think these kinds of problems are inevitable - but should be fixed easily. Thanks again for sharing your hands-on experience ! ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ACC Fan Problem W124 '91 300D 2.5T Try kicking under the passenger dash. Usually the brushes on the blower motor goes bad around 150k miles. Kicking under the passenger dash will make it work for a bit longer, at least long enough to call Rusty. Also check fuse under hood on driver's fender, it is not with other fuses but in it's own black case. If it is good order a spare from Rusty and keep in dash, they will eventually fail due to vibration. Note the blower motor can be ordered with or with out squirrel cage. I order with out, which is cheaper, then use an air hammer to remove squirrel cage. To do this hold squirrel cage and use air hammer on motor shaft, old otor will fall to ground. I have done about 6 blower motors this way and have never broken plastic squirrel cage. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 12:55 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] ACC Fan Problem W124 '91 300D 2.5T Howdy - Have 2 problems - 1st, the blower fan in the ACC system stopped today; naturally it's in the low 90s. I seem to recall it hesitating - for maybe 2 seconds, then it started blowing normally. I confirmed the compressor is engaged.. Also checked the fuses and outside temp indicator - both were normal. Any suggestions? from reading the WSM it seems like I would need remove the glove box to get to the fan. I plan to check connections if I can figure out what I need to check - a loose wire would explain the short delay before the fan came on. Unfortunately, today, the fan didn't come on at all. 2nd problem - the ACC Wiring Diagrams section 83-606, should have my wiring diagram. But after going thru the pages 3 times I believe they're missing the 124.128 chassis - perhaps there's another similar chassis that works? Or perhaps the WDs for the ACC are still on the internet somewhere? TIA -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ACC Fan Problem W124 '91 300D 2.5T
It means that the electrical portion of the ignition switch is malfunctioning--usually from wear. Replacement is not overly expensive or time consuming. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:01 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ACC Fan Problem W124 '91 300D 2.5T Haven't tried that - but I will - If this gets the ACC working, what does it mean? Does the ign switch need replacing? BTW, my AC is working - I can hear and feel the compressor cutting in - but the fan will not come on. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ACC Fan Problem W124 '91 300D 2.5T Did you try wiggling the ignition key a bit? I had to move mine back a bit from full ON position to get the ACC to work. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 6:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ACC Fan Problem W124 '91 300D 2.5T Hi Trampas, I tried the kicking method - no luck - then I looked for the fuse. I found the main GP 80A fuse directly in front (bumper side) of the master fuse box - at least I believe it's the main fuse for the GPs. Then I looked inside the master fuse box - the label said the fan motor was outside the fusebox. But I haven't found it. Along side the fuse box is a plug type affair - I unplugged it and it looks like an aluminum male plug going into a alum female receptacle. Does that have anything to do with it? I'm getting ready to search my workshop manuals The Bible for info on RR'ing the motor/cage along with any fuse location info - but they kinda assume the reader is able to find fuses! ;-\ I'd like to change it myself - for the satisfaction. And I'll know how to do it next time - I plan to keep this car a long time. It just turned 107k - it wasn't driven regularily before we bought it last Feb - so I think these kinds of problems are inevitable - but should be fixed easily. Thanks again for sharing your hands-on experience ! ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ACC Fan Problem W124 '91 300D 2.5T Try kicking under the passenger dash. Usually the brushes on the blower motor goes bad around 150k miles. Kicking under the passenger dash will make it work for a bit longer, at least long enough to call Rusty. Also check fuse under hood on driver's fender, it is not with other fuses but in it's own black case. If it is good order a spare from Rusty and keep in dash, they will eventually fail due to vibration. Note the blower motor can be ordered with or with out squirrel cage. I order with out, which is cheaper, then use an air hammer to remove squirrel cage. To do this hold squirrel cage and use air hammer on motor shaft, old otor will fall to ground. I have done about 6 blower motors this way and have never broken plastic squirrel cage. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 12:55 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] ACC Fan Problem W124 '91 300D 2.5T Howdy - Have 2 problems - 1st, the blower fan in the ACC system stopped today; naturally it's in the low 90s. I seem to recall it hesitating - for maybe 2 seconds, then it started blowing normally. I confirmed the compressor is engaged.. Also checked the fuses and outside temp indicator - both were normal. Any suggestions? from reading the WSM it seems like I would need remove the glove box to get to the fan. I plan to check connections if I can figure out what I need to check - a loose wire would explain the short delay before the fan came on. Unfortunately, today, the fan didn't come on at all. 2nd problem - the ACC Wiring Diagrams section 83-606, should have my wiring diagram. But after going thru the pages 3 times I believe they're missing the 124.128 chassis - perhaps there's another similar chassis that works? Or perhaps the WDs for the ACC are still on the internet somewhere? TIA -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91
Re: [MBZ] OT - generators again
Look in the Old Engines groups. Lots of them are tinkering with old generators. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 2:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT - generators again I just picked up an old Onan Generator. Anyone have ideas on availability of information for something like this? The fellow I got it from talked about a group on the net that were interested. I wasn't quick enough to ask for details. I assumed it had to be a Yahoo group or something easy to find. I have done a little bit of looking and not come up with anything positive. Will keep looking but thought I would ask if any of you knowledgeable folks had run across such in your various travels. Randy B ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
