Re: [MBZ] cells
Yesterday Washington State's no hand held cellphones while driving law went into effect. $124 fines and no warnings. So the morning paper has a picture of a woman in a Toyota Pious being ticketed by a State Trooper. Heartwarming. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Harrier landing
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Re: [MBZ] the grid
I used to use the grid to correct B-52 heading systems on very low altitude practice navigation routes and bomb runs - the grid is oriented to true north. . Back when I was a student pilot, I spent a lot of time flying square patterns at 500 feet or so with my instructor following the section lines, learning to compensate for crosswinds. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Internet car forums
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Re: [MBZ] The chairman's...
Man! That rust looks pretty impressive! Is this going to be a daily driver? I hope the engine looks better cared for than the outside?... I gather Illinois doesn't have any sort of vehicle safety inspection. I don't think I've ever seen a worse looking car. And that includes the B-210 (The Atomic Cockroach) that I rented in Honolulu decades ago that had a rust hole in the quarter panel the size of a canteloupe. The crusher calls. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] And now for something completely......
After the female introduction and you have pushed your eyes back in with a warm spoon, take a listen. Notice their ages. http://www.wimp.com/threetenors/ RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] no cat?
Bypassing an OE cat carries a heavy fine if you are caught. Where? My Porsche hasn't had a cat since 1985 or so and always passes emissions easily. There are no visual inspections here. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] no cat
...It's called a piece of tubing and a gutted cat, it's done all the time. I've also heard of prybar and a hammer, and just going at it. Walt On Jun 7, 2010 4:58 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: Bypassing an OE cat carries a heavy fine if you are caught. Where? My Porsche hasn't had a cat since 1985 or so and always passes emissions easily. There are no visual inspections here My car was a factory delivery and since unleaded gas was not universally available in Europe in 1983, it was delivered without a cat or O2 sensor so it could use leaded Super. When I returned it to Porsche to ship home, the US exhaust system with cat and sensor was installed (for a fee). I removed the US system later and installed a Euro system (with different headers and a muffler where the cat had been) so as to eliminate a part throttle lean surge by running the idle at 2% CO. Later, as an experiment I had a port installed to reinstall the sensor but now only plug it in for biannual emission testing. Because the Motronic has an Autothority chip in it, passing without leaning it out and plugging in the sensor can be iffy. I would never destroy an original Porsche part (the cat) because someday I might need it although the car has had it's last emission test anyway. It is waiting in the garage. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT hen
Uh, I believe that's Cominskey Park Jeez, I don't even look at the sports section but I know it's Comiskey. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 944
The 944 was a pretty reliable engine if serviced according to the book. 150,000-200,000 miles between overhauls not a big deal. Belts do need to be kept on top of, but that's true of any interference engine. I watched a couple of friends do the belts, and it's not a really big job. Best to invest in, or rent a proper belt tension gauge though, not rely on the old quarter twist method. hee hee. I've not heard of any real problems with the balance shaft. Not a car I would mess around trying to do an engine conversion on. The inline 4 is a good engine, and lots of used ones about, so why mess about trying to fit apples with oranges The 944 uses two balance shafts bolted to the outside of the engine, driven by one toothed belt. The cam is also driven by a toothed belt and the failure of one can and usually does take out the other followed by destruction of the valves and maybe the head. It's twice as bad in the twincam versions. The belts themselves are dirt cheap but it takes a lot of labor time to change them. And, the factory P-9201 tool is the best way to tension them correctly. It's always advised when buying a used 944 that if there is no paperwork to document how long the belts have been in the car, change them immediately. My 944, at 55000 miles will be getting new belts soon because even though they have only about 7000 miles on them, they were installed in 1998 and are the third set since new. Cautious owners tension the belts at each 10K mile point and change them at around 30K miles. I'm sure plenty of them have gone much further but it's just not worth the risk. Later models with so called automatic tensioning are safe to go longer. As to engine swaps, I concur that trying to install some iron GM lump would be foolish. But, a local Porsche indy has installed an all aluminum Pontiac V-8 (LS something or other, I suppose) and a 944 Turbo 5-speed transmission in a 1987 944. He built a custom single exhaust system and had to heavily modify the oil pan. The engine fits nicely but the lateral clearance at the back is about an inch. I have driven this car and it's a lot of fun and goes like stink. It weighs about forty pounds more than stock so handling is not compromised. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT hen/Comiskey
...You don't get it either... Very likely. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT taxes tips
Yeah we got charged a service charge in a eatery and me being a tight wad, asked the managment what that is all about, turns out when there are more than 8 people in a party they are entitled to charge a service charge... It is not a case of entitled but is a common restaurant policy when groups come in because they know that the total tip will be less, much less, than if separate checks were provided. Particularly if it's a bunch of women. It's usually 17 1/2 % which is fine with me since I like to leave 20% unless something is really wrong. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Flex discs
...The drive shaft becomes disconnected from the transmission or rear end. It becomes a potentially lethal spinning rod of heavy steel driven by the remaining disc without anything to keep the disconnected end on-center... There is a photo on the net someplace showing the results of neglecting this item which included among other things, the floor torn out. Ignore this at your peril. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] flex discs
...Would a out-of-balance type of vibration at low speeds be a symptom of a failing flex disc?.. A failed front flex disc can total the car. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] flex disc damage
..Its not going to tear into the passenger compartment, you will just hear a lot of banging as you come to a stop... So now I have to find the photo I mentioned earlier? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] flex discs
How do you test flex discs in the car? I've seen a defective flex disc out of a car which looked okay until it was twisted in a vise In my two 201s, three front flex discs were replaced under warranty. In all of them, the threaded inserts were coming loose. The '85 had two and the '89 had one. The 202 had one replaced. The 203 and 204 (so far) had none so I think finally the situation is under control. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] B-25 flyover
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Re: [MBZ] chemical infusion
...The glass tray spontaneously cracked in half. We heard it, the microwave wasn't even being used. Loud. I used Shoe Goo to glue it back together... So, the fumes from that stuff getting into the food is OK? Oh wait, that might just explain RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] snook/wright
Have they had to re-build/re-engineer the F. L. W. house yet to make it work?.. Good point. Just recently in Seattle there was a newspaper article and TV coverage of a Wright design house here that nobody wants because of the repairs it needs even though it is on Puget Sound waterfront property. It's concrete so can't be moved at any reasonable cost so it looks like it's going to be torn down. And, the rebuild of Fallingwater in Pennsylvania to prevent it falling into the creek a few years back was in the news some time back. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W212
This was in arkansas, and this stuff happens all the time in the car business. She paid 50 something for it, they offered her like 35k trade, ended up giving her 42k, tahoes cost more than that these days. In fact, they cost just about as much as a new E class does... I think the average W212 costs in the mid to high 60's including TL and it's easy to spend more. But, when I see one of those extended cab 4X4 diesel pickups (pick a make) dressed up on big wheels and such, I know that it cost more than my C300 which was NOT cheap. And although the W211 was a great car with the right engine (E500 or E320 Bluetec), the W212 beats it in every category. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pilkington
...I've got to get a new windshield for my '95 E300. The auto-glass guy I called recommended a Pilkington windshield vice PPG, as he says that PPG is now made in China but Pilkington is still made in North America (code for Mexico?) and has much better quality. Anyone have an opinion on Pilkington?... My 2001 C320 had all PPG glass. My 2008 C300 has all Pilkington including the new windshield replaced recently. Your glass man may be making more profit on the Pilkington since they are technically identical. Also, insurance companies are forcing glass shops to use cheaper glass these days. My company won't pay for dealer glass when the car is more than about 1.5 years old. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pilkington
I have it in my '77 300D. It has lasted longer without getting beat up/pitted than whateveer was in it when I bought it. Seems like good stuff. Exactly my experience with my C300. In 2.5 years, the original glass had far fewer pits and such until the big rock hit dead center which penetrated the outer layer. Not cheap at $868 but windshields with the rain sensor bracket at the top center do cost more. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tahoe?
...One of my dealers got in a 2010 E350 in on trade with 4k miles. Apparently they just bought it and the wife wanted an SUV so they traded it in on a Tahoe. ... Looks to me like they are having fun with the doofus here and he bought it. Even in OK, this is a real stretch. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snook's house
Mitch wrote: Can you imagine a family of two selling their 2150 square foot home because it's not big enough and they hope to have children someday? Well, Yes! :) I can certainly imagine it because the house we are probably going to buy is 3000 Sq. ft. and there is just the two of us and no kids, yet -- plus almost an acre yard. I realize we don't need 3000 SQ. Ft, but.. Unlike the rest, I completely understand why you want to move. Space and room for future use is one good reason. A lot of my car enthusiast friends would say if asked what kind of house they want would reply at least space for four cars (inside, goes without saying) plus a reasonable dwelling attached. I can see that you are going to be a car guy for the rest of your life and for that you need space. I have a three car space in my home's lower level and with two cars in there, the stuffstill keeps coming in the door somehow and not everything is stored away as it used to be. BTW, I was going to look at your home on Google Earth Street View but for some reason the camera truck didn't come down your street. I could see from the picture up on the corner across from the golf course that your street looks very nice. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Checklist? Huh?
Got Thrust? Start Engine First As the NTSB continues its discussion of pilot professionalism this week, it might consider the performance of two crews who, on separate occasions, neglected to start the second engine before attempting takeoff. The Wall Street Journal reported that both incidents occurred in regional jets, the first last year as an American Eagle Embraer lined up at Los Angeles for a short flight to San Diego. When the crew advanced the throttles, one engine failed to respond and when they taxied back to the gate to report it, mechanics informed the crew that the engine had never been started. A similar incident occurred last March at Dulles, again in an Embraer operated by Trans States Airlines. Once again, according to the Journal story, the crew noticed the inert second engine only when the thrust levers were moved forward for the takeoff. To save fuel, some airlines routinely taxi on a single engine, then start the second before takeoff. In the first incident, the second officer evidently became distracted by radio calls during the start sequence and failed to notice that the second engine hadn't lighted. Both airlines were or are investigating the incidents. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] s this an SLK?
Looks like an older SL with an oddball aftermarket bumper cover. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] .2 missing?
...As I said before, I don't own the E320 anymore. To be honest, I was glad to see it gone and have only Diesel MBs again. It was a hotrod, though, for only a 3 liter engine... 3.2 RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hunting 124 update
I usually do that because I neglect to get the alignment before the tires, but have never planned it that way! However, if the car is in the air for the alignment, I don't see how tires would make a difference... Since alignments are done with the car on it's wheels, I suspect you misspoke. And since alignments are a nuts-and-bolts mechanical adjustment, tires cannot change that. But, tires can cause pulling left or right or wandering and sometimes merely swapping the fronts can cure it. Yes, BTDT. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fwd:hacking
.RLE: Real life data for me, 39 years of driving diesel cars with mechanical injection, primarily Mercedes Benz. Utterly reliable. Hundreds of thousands of miles, maybe approaching a million of reliable service. That is real life data So then, all of the hundreds (perhaps thousands) of posts on the MB lists talking about cam chains, tensioners, head gaskets, bent rods, injectors, glow plugs, prechambers, algae and on and on are imaginary? But those are just general common MB diesel problems. The ones related to mechanical diesel injection such as the drive chain, the injectors and the prechambers and glow plugs all fail and even the pumps themselves have problems if we can believe the owners looking for help here. Your idea of utterly reliable seems a bit..flexible. Every gasser MB I have owned, I have had the pleasure() of replacing the electronic black box. THAT is also real life data Well, my 116, 202, 203 and 204 all had/have one form or another of electronic injection and there were zero repairs to those components during my ownership. I will admit that the little ignition box in my '72 250 did die soon after I sold the car to a friend at 65K miles. Further, my '84 944, now nearly 27 years in my garage, has never had one single problem with either it's ignition or fuel systems and it's a second year Motronic. I did pull the injectors for rebuild about two years ago which consisted of cleaning out the internal muck and seeing that they operated properly and they then performed as new, as did the engine. I remember back when Ritter had his shop and was forever praising on his list the older cars that made him a wealthy man with never anything good to say about the later stuff. Now that's he's ten years out of the business, he is a bit more candid and isn't afraid to say good things about MB progress. He has also admitted that his 6.3 (about which we heard plenty of praise in those days) was seriously underbraked and could be a handful in a fast corner due to it's swing axle.. So, do you have shop catering to the more elderly diesels, then? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: hacking?
Mmm, mechanical injection that electrocrap. Give me a mechanical inject Bosch system (gasser or diesel) over efi any day. There's only one place efi is good imo, and that's on a 13B Mazda rotary. All info I see points to them liking it better than carb. The MegaSquirt crowd also has the right idea, make the efi system yourself to your specs, and tune it how you want it. ... And all this is based on what technical real life data, if you please? RLE -- next part -- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com Subject: Mercedes Digest, Vol 54, Issue 44 Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 09:05:06 + Size: 32582 URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100515/e0170396/attachment.mht ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car hackers can kill brakes, engine, and more
..*Car hackers can kill brakes, engine, and more*.. So, each time I enter my car which has an OBD2 port, I should look on the floor for a strange laptop or a trailing vehicle trying to destroy me or the car? Is ANY of this believable? Who in hell was paying these researchers to waste time on this? And then who was dopey enough to publish it? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Classic Alfa?
. I don't know why someone would do that to such a great old classic. If they want an Alfa with a V8 why not get a more common donor?.. I can see you have never owned an Alfa. Not exactly a paragon of reliability and I'm talking about a new one. Just because something is old doesn't make it a classic although some other models seem to be fetching surprising prices. I owned a Giulietta Spider Normale for one year and it was off the road for about 1/3 of that time waiting for parts. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Volvo safety
http://jalopnik.com/5533328/volvo-safety-demo-goes-wrong Be sure to scroll down to the comments. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] aux fan
...Speaking of Aux fans, does anyone know when or under what circumstances the aux fan should come on in my car? It's a 1995 E320. I have noticed the last couple weeks that if I drive very slowly and idle, that the temp gets pretty high. Not in the red, but more than half way between the middle (80) and the 120 redline. My wife and I have been looking at houses and if we are driving very slowly through a neighborhood or idling a lot, the temp gets pretty high. As soon as I get back on the road going normal speeds, the temp drops down. It seems like that means the fan isn't coming on. I have noticed it on once or twice when I got home and pulled into the driveway, I can hear the aux fan (I think)... The aux fan runs when the AC is on, for one thing. My '95 C280 worked this way. That would eliminate the fan from the trouble list. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] patron saint of lost causes
...Hey Fred who did you say was the patron saint of lost causes again?.. St. Kaleb, I think. But I ain't Fred. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] C strength
...Ed Booher wrote: Wouldn't driving through a brick wall have completely destroyed the rear end? Does make you wonder about the construction, doesn't it?.. Wonder what, exactly? The picture shows that the rear bumper and left quarter were not deformed. Another pic shows a big dent in the right quarter panel. I would think the rear window would be broken when it hit the wall that didn't break out. W204 crash tests on UTube prove the structural strength of the body shell. Yes, it's stronger than a W124. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] the wall
Does make you wonder about the construction, doesn't it? Mitch... Oh wait. You meant the building, not the car. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] New C-Class ventilates parking garage
http://jalopnik.com/5526703/honey-you-parked-the-car-where Scroll down to read the comments. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fast lap at the Nurburgring August 2009
Click on the full screen icon: http://www.popsci.com/cars/article/2009-08/weird-looking-german-supercar-breaks-nurburgring-lap-record RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tipping
.What is the go with tipping? It is a cultural difference - we aren't expected to tip over here? I have read in the Lonely Planet Travel Guide the rate is between 10 - 15% for good service. In a decent sit-down restaurant, 15-20% is the norm now. Taxicabs,15%. Cafeterias, counter service, Starbucks etc, zero. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] misused terminology
...No, you are using it right, Max---I didn't mean to single you out. I just thought it was generally a strange holdover. We still speak of frame straightening and the like, even though the only frame the typical unibody car has is the stiffening rails from wheel well to wheel well to put the jack under And then there are those who refer to body off or frame off restorations on unibody cars. They are just revealing their ignorance. I have previously complained about a fully restored vehicle when all it's had is a cheap repaint and a good vacuuming. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The value of ABS
I really don't understand why you don't just fix it. It's a safety system with proven worth - why not repair it? Except on loose surfaces, where ABS can actually do more harm than good. (Such as fresh snow or slush, or gravel, or [like the road immediately outside our driveway] a steep gravel road often covered in fresh snow or slush!) ABS is nice enough, but once it starts acting up so that you can no longer trust the brakes, and the easy/obvious repair attempts don't work, then I say that I'd rather disable it than mistrust the brakes, or dump thousands for new ABS parts into a car that cost less than that in the first place. -- Jim.. I'm going to have to disagree with this and here's why. I am now on my fifth ABS equipped Mercedes since 1985 and it's value under 99% of low traction conditions has been proven to me let's say, a time or two. The ONLY malfunction I've ever seen was a one time failure in my '89 190E 2.6 on a twenty degree morning after a big snowfall the day before. The ABS light came on, indicating a fault caused shutdown, which cured itself later that day, never to return. If one reads the road tests of new cars in the German magazines and look at their braking test categories, they test on dry and wet surfaces plus snow and ice if available and under split mu conditions. They publish numbers for these tests with the brakes both hot and cold. ABS can really pay off when you might have a road surface with sand, loose gravel or snow/ice on part of it (near the edges, usually) with the rest wet or dry. The stopping distances between makes can be substantial. It's true that some Audis used to have an ABS shutdown switch for stopping in loose snow or gravel (who drives in loose gravel, really?) and the value of pushing a wedge of something ahead of non-rotating tires can be seen. My 26.5 year old Porsche doesn't have ABS and when I drive it in the rain (almost never if I can help it) I have to keep in mind that it just can't stop as fast on wet pavement as my MB at freeway speeds. After an episode of locked and sliding front wheels and not much speed reduction, I got the message. A car with full traction control must have working ABS because it's part of the whole package. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 914 shift quality
...I hated the feel of the shifter in a 914 - more than twice as bad as a VWbug. Soft and mushy... That would be in a pre-1973 model after which the side-shifter transmision was used. I converted my 1970 914-6 to a side shifter which solved the situation. Also, like many MBs, the various bushings in the shift linkage need to be in good shape. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Meigs no more
In a message dated 4/18/10 5:00:18 AM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com writes: .Dan wrote: That's Meigs Field, not Meggs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meigs_Field Not anymore. mao.. That's because the crooked Mayor of Chicago, in violation of Federal law, sent city workers out there in the dead of night and dug up the runway. He wanted a park on the lake. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] test scores
Wonk opines: ...Interesting trivia point. One must achieve a grade of 65% in ground school to be sent on to actually fly. 65 and fly was our mantra. Upon graduation from primary, the top grades go jets, the next batch goes props, and those at the bottom of the class go rotary wing. Perhaps you would be interested to know that the minimum passing score on the FAA Private Pilot wriiten test is 70%. So, it appears that like the rest of the Services, the standards are lowered until somebody can pass the test. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Meigs and the Mayor
.Didn't he use the T word as justification? Oddly, with no airport in the area, use of the airspace would be much LESS restricted... And I won't even hazard a guess at the economic damage blowing the airport (with all the associated businesses) away did... Well maybe an order-of-magnitude... I'll go with 7.5 to 8 per year I guess T must mean traffic. The traffic pattern was over water so there was no safety problem. And the close-in access to Chicago's financial and business center was very important but of no concern to him. And because the FAA had pumped a lot of Federal money into the facility, they then have by Federal statute a controlling say in what goes on there. But since Mr. Mayor is part of the Illinois political machine, the whole business seems to have faded away. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A/B-26
There I was having a stylishly late breakfast when I heard what sounded like round engines, getting closer. I hustled out onto the deck and to what did my wondering eyes should appear was an A-26, northbound at about 1500 ft. You can hear those two R-2800s a long way off. it's probably visiting the Museum of Flight this week. http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=91 RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] World's worst autos
Well, it's somebody's idea of the worst and they aren't far wrong. The comments are funny but accurate. Please, no posts: Well, my Vega (or Pinto) was a great car etc. We know better. http://editorial.autos.msn.com/slideshow.aspx?cp-documentid=1131799 RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] PCA day at the NY Auto Show
I can't imagine MBUSA doing something like this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fm3uVGHWnY RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Auto show
.PCA gatherings seem to have dwindled big time too, from what a few couple of members have told me Not in my Region (www.pnwr.org) and there will likely be about 900+ registrants at this year's Porsche Parade at the Pheasant Run Resort in St. Charles Illinois. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] restore for how much?
if you could restore it for another 10k The key word there is IF A good restore costs $30k and is generally way more... I think you had better define restore before you go any further. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] restore
I think you had better define restore before you go any further. .I was thinking redo the suspension and brakes, redo the interior reasonably close to stock, weld in new metal over any holes in the body, fill in all the dings with Bondo, and repaint. And isn't there supposed to be one huge air filter with an enclosure so that the three carbs draw from the hood scoop instead of from the radiator? Mitch.. That's repair, not restoration, which means returning the car to factory new condition. Please note all the Craigslist ads (seen here in great quantity daily) which use the terms like new, mint, perfect, show condition etc. when none of them apply at all. True restoration is hugely expensive and very few ordinary cars are worth it. MB or Pontiac. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mobster wheels
...The guy who suggested the owner might be a mobster may have a point, but what mobster would have ever bought an AMC Eagle wagon or a Pacer?... Gay ones? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] separating
Curt opines: .Considering there are MANY 300,000+ mile engines I'd say yeah they don't need them No mention was made of any effect on longevity. It's the damned noise. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Racor
Gerry Archer: http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=6440 ...has a listing of physical sizes of various Racor filters. Do you know which Racor filter/water separator you have in your diesels,... My '78 300D (my only diesel) was sold in 1985 after seven years and 120K miles so I have no idea which model it may have been although I can say that the upper part was metal, containing a four micron filter and had a lexan bowl underneath with a petcock for draining it. My friend RO has a 50' twin diesel Tollycraft and I asked him recently if it had a water separator. His answer was Of course. Two Racors. I googled Racor water separator and found many listings. Here is a boater's forum where they are discussing this very subject. http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/001561.html RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Racor service
Randy'd: ..So, these doodads have a drain valve on the bottom to remove accumulated water - and a filter element that is replacable? How often would you change out the element?.. I don't recall any specified intervals because it depends on how much fuel passed through it. But, I looked at the lexan bowl at least weekly and changed the paper filter about every 5K miles. They didn't cost much, not coming from Germany and all... I tend to overdo it on service. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] P-51 video
I promise you will not regret the time spent watching this video and please share it with your friends. http://www.asb.tv/videos/view.php?v=1bf99434br=500 The video has great resolution and should be watched in Full Screen, to do so click on the box with the arrow coming out of it in the lower right corner of the video presentation. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dishwasher water lines
Go to Home Depot and buy the length of line you need. Nobody uses solid lines any more. In fact, it's a bad idea. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] water
..I would point out that no MB diesel ever came from the factory with a water separator. .. I hope you are not suggesting that they didn't need one. Because I know better. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wasser
.No MB diesel came out of the factory with a water separator? maybe so. certainly none for the US market after 1960 or so had a separate device called a water separator. However EVERY MB diesel has a well designed filter that pulls fuel off the TOP effectively trapping up to 8 oz or so of water That may be your theory but in practice it doesn't work worth a damn. I dunno, maybe all that nailing from enlarged injector holes is music to your ears and you consider it normal. I did not. I bought my '78 300D new and during the warranty period (that's the first 50K miles) my dealer replaced thirteen injectors, or later on, injector tips, because of excess diesel rattle. Caused by small amounts of water, they said. And the warranty claims were approved because MB knew damn well that water could get into the injectors. Just about the time the warranty ended, I became aware of water separators and the Racor in particular. I bought one, fabricated a steel bracket for the left fender well for it and from that day on the noises caused by water damaged injector tips were gone forever. I drove it another 70K miles. Just to save some effort here, please, no advice about buying from high volume stations or keeping the tank full to reduce condensation or any other standard advice. Oh, and please don't mention Marshall's comments on the subject. My friend AC used to own a trucking business (about 15 KW semis running up and down the coast and he told me that they all had water separators and as a result he would finally replace injectors at about 700K miles. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Sobering WW2 war photos
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[MBZ] UK car humor, again
What did the parody car-magazine site that Roger posted a link to a while back say about the Maserati Biturbo?? Something like By the strictest definition this is not an automobile, if the criteria for the latter include the capability of motion under its own power at least some of the time.? Comedy gold. Alex... That was www.sniffpetrol.com RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] that $3000 924
There are many good reasons to stay away from any 924. Particularly the Turbo. Porsche, like MB, BMW, Audi etc. has built some cars that seemed like a good idea at the time. But later on RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 924
relng...@aol.com wrote: There are many good reasons to stay away from any 924. Particularly the Turbo. I thought the Turbo was the one that had better suspension and brakes than an Audi Fox. Was the 924S that sold alongside the 944 a better car than the old ones? Mitch I guess the reference to the Fox was some kind of sarcasm. I know that the Fox was a dreadful car with the reliability of a five dollar nuclear bomb. Just a plain-ass little FWD 2-door with no redeeming qualities. The 924 Turbo, a rolling hand grenade with turbo and exhaust problems that would put one in the poor house, had about the same performance as the later NA 944 without the reliability. When the 924S showed up in 1988, it seemed to answer a question unasked. It used the current 944 drivetrain in the old 924 narrow body so looked old even when new. The interior, with the old manual AC, was like the early 944. The 924 was slow and noisy although it handled well. The first ones were 4-speeds and rode like hobby horses, pitching for and aft. These cars were competitors to the 240Z at the same price. We all know what a big success the 240Z was and maybe the main reason people bought 924s was the badge on the nose. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] the competition
Sat down at the Mac this PM and find 15 digests from Mr. Hilter's list and only only from this one. Gotta step up the pace, people. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] shut down
No, it is not a good thing. No tinfoil-hattery is necessary to perceive the manifest safety issues. As has been amply demonstrated here and elsewhere in discussion of the runaway-Toyota issue, anyone but the driver having a say in when a car should be turned off (or on) is a recipe for trouble... The discussions here have no bearing on the question since the participants have no technical knowledge of the system. And the media publicity is mostly a combination of uninformed speculation and denials by Toyota. When all this is boiled down to a proven cause, then we will know. I am on my second MB with an electronic throttle control and I am not in the least bit worried about a malfunction. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Porsche
...On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 7:13 AM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Those are correct comments - the 911SC of 83-87 are widely considered to have bulletproof engines with some going 300K mi with never being opened up... The 911SC was produced from 1978 to 1983, all CIS cars, now a disadvantage. The 1984 911, reviving the Carrera name, used Bosch Motronic which was a big improvement over CIS. Used Targas always bring less money than Coupes because of the usual open car problems plus wind and water leaks. But, very early Targas have shot up in value for some reason. My friend RH has a '67 911S soft window Targa, white with red leather with less than 100K miles, that would likely bring more than twenty grand. It's all original, nice but not a show car. I just heard last week that a full rebuild on an aircooled Porsche six is now sneaking up on 15 grand. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 911 rebuild costs
Ed'd:
...Good reason to keep those chain tensioners in good working order!..
Sure enough although the hydraulic version ('84 and on) lowered that risk
to the hardly ever range. The estimated OH cost is not for a broken motor,
just worn out.
I had the pleasure of a failed version 1 tensioner in Susanville CA and
drove to Reno (90 miles) for repair, keeping the rpm above 3500. Got lucky.
Very lucky.
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Re: [MBZ] Porsche refurbishments
I wonder which is less expensive, and easier to find parts for now - a 911 or an XKE? Those two, plus the pagoda roofed 280SL made my list --.. A 911, hands down. You can get any part from dozens of suppliers around the country because of the huge enthusiast base. Find a copy of a recent Porsche Panorama and look at all the ads inside. My Porsche is 26 1/2 years old and I could order nearly any part for it tomorrow. Further, a Porsche can be driven every day, all year, taken to the track and run hard and it never notices. They are rugged machines when maintained correctly and seldom break provided their performance envelope is observed. You could never use an XKE or 113 SL in the same way without plenty of repairs because they have no significant racing background. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] shut down?
In a message dated 3/18/10 4:37:10 AM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com writes: Dieselhead wrote: I am probably with mountain man on this sounds like a good reason to have a 240D. I am sure Gummit motors has this capability on all their cars sold in the last decade. Only the ones with OnStar. Mitch... And in the case of MB, TeleAid. And the location and disabling of a stolen car is a good thing. Gordon and dieselhead's aluminum foil caps not withstanding. BTW, my 2008 C300 does not have the optional TeleAid. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 25 minute chase of new C-Class
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[MBZ] Re; no go
.Zero drive no matter what I do. So if it's the drive ears, is it rR the torque converter?.. How old is the front flex disc? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] loose lines
I believe excessive vibration was the cause of the failure of #6 line on my '87---it cracked right above the connection to the IP. Believe me, work hardening of a vibrating solid metal tube (vs flex) can lead to serious consequences when it breaks off. Speaking from personal experience. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] work hardening
...I had to look up work hardening, but that sure makes sense. I did notice that the cracked line when removed had little or no give,.. I could have clarified that the tube will break off in a fitting that is not vibrating. I have to say that in my case it was a copper line but I would think aluminum would be subject to the same failure although perhaps in a different number of bending cycles. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fantasies
RT posts: .There was a scare story on the radio this morning about a Pious that unintendedly accelerated in Collyfawnya AFTER having the fix, was up to 90mph, a cop was following the guy and got in front of it to stop it until the guy could somehow shut it off. snip Just about 100% wrong. A TV interview this AM on ABC with the driver and the CHP trooper involved reveals: The driver, perhaps a typical Pious (I like that) driver said that he took his recall notice to a Toyota dealer who turned him away, saying that his car was not involved. Thus, no fix was done. Soon after, the car took off on it's own on the interstate and repeated efforts to shut it down (he claims) failed and the brakes were ineffective. So, he dials 911, believe it or not, telling the CHP about the problem while steering. A CHP car caught up with the Pious which was doing about 90mph. The trooper, in an interview I watched, said he could smell the brakes and pulled alongside, yelling at the driver (on his loudspeaker) to apply the parking brake along with the wheel brakes which worked somewhat and when the car slowed to about 40mph he was able to shut down the engine. The trooper said he had considered getting in front to stop the car but did not although he did block it after the whole event was over. The Pious driver said he was never going to drive the thing again as it was flatbedded away. Probably the most exciting day the Pious driver ever had. The dealer employee who brushed off the Pious owner has a problem, methinks. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Prius brakes
...Makes me wonder why the brakes on a Pious could not stop the car -- the gas engine is not that powerful, but perhaps if regen braking is generally used in addition to mechanical means and that did not kick in, or maybe the pad brakes are wimpy?.. You may be onto something here. Those cars are everywhere around here and are usually seen poking along holding up traffic (nowhere to go and all day to get there) so it's likely that 6 inch drum brakes all around would be adequate. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hunt and peck
...Someone missed the sarcasm here. I think Roger meant a 1997, not 79... I never claimed I could type since I use the Columbus System. Find it and land on it it. The ML is a '99, of course. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] early ML
Back to the ML's 4-matics in specific - what was wrong with the first series? Is it likely to be something that has already been repaired/replaced if they'restill on the road?... Sure, with updated parts likely paid by the warranty. My friend AC has a '79 ML320 that has been a gem, unlike so many of it's brethren. He's the one with the '07 E320 Bluetec. Another friend had one of about the same vintage and they had trouble with the rear hatch hardware and also seat hardware and trim. All fixed early. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] aux pump
...Isn't it the aux water pump that gives us heat so fast on cold days? (faster than any other car I've driven).. The purpose of that pump is to keep water flowing through the heater core at or near idle in cars that pretend to have ACC. When the pump fails, the heater output temp drops very noticeably when poking along in traffic. It cannot produce heat. This was demonstrated to me in my own past cars, likely the '78 300D with the pretend air conditioning. These days, what with a clutchless variable flow swashplate AC compressor, a variable flow cooling thermostat and a 17 7-blade electric fan,all controlled by the main brain, the HVAC system is truly set it and forget it. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] good maintenance
.Your friend has accomplished quite a feat, to preserve a 1979 ML320. It belongs in a museum I saw it just yesterday and it looks six months old. He formerly owned a trucking company and his last Kenworth, sold two years ago, looked about the same which was remarkable considering it's nearly million miles on the odo. He also has owned since new a mid '70s (I think) GM pickup which is a time capsule. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] so useful
Woger, If you call Rusty, he not only can get anything you need for your MB, he might even be able to supply parts for your front porche and your back porche (or any other porche you may have).. Hi dopey... It just so happens that I have sourced a few items for my cars (shocks, halfshaft, filters etc) over time and was well satisfied with the prices and the prompt deliveries. I just don't feel the need to post my shopping lists here, that's all. The only order they had trouble with was the first one which was due to an employee's inability to read. Could have been Hurst in those days. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DeLorean facts??
...Anyway 2 cases he cites to further his stories are Tucker and Delorean. Well until I said But Keith, the Delorean was crap. I followed with A fiberglass body and stainless steel cladding plus a poorly made underpowered GM V6... He shut up quick on that one... It certainly wasn't a GM engine, but a P-R-V. And I've seen a red one. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] V-6 diesel
06 went to the V6. Original tires on the 05 were H rated... The V-6 Bluetec was an '07. My friend AC has one and I have driven it. Utterly reliable, just like my W204. At last. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] V-6 confusion
...Mitched: Oh, then I'm really an idiot. I thought the 320s were V6 and the 300s were I6... No, you are not. The 2007 Bluetec V-6 is badged E320 but it's not a 3.2. Weren't the inline sixes badged CDI? The Bluetec for the US market isn't. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SHOX
So, how did those shocks work out on your porch? I never considered that but them my porch sits on concrete piles and has no springs so I am not sure how much help the shocks might be. Now if I was in California and had to worry about aftershocks, I might want them... Well now Clem, them shocks wuz fer my 190E 2.6 which wuz plum wore out early. Some have allowed as how as Bilsteins last forever but I'm thinkin their standards are in the cellar. Hello to the old lady. Hope them burns from when the still blew up are mostly healed. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 204 wiper blades
204 820 11 45 is a set, we sell for $38.00.. Which is not on your website. And the dealer sells the genune article by the each. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] early 190E
don't know anything about the car, but did find this in the technical data book: 190E 2.3, 201 .028, 102.985 engine, the tranny is 717.412, Engine has 9:1 compressioin ratio, 6k rpm max., 136 hp @ 5100 rpm, 151 lb./ft. torque @ 3500 rpm, premuim fuel. rear axle is 3.27:1, 0-62 mph in 10.6 sec., top speed is 122.4 mph, curb weight is 2690 lb. Fueleconomy.gov says 17 mpg. city and 24 mpg hwy. I bought one of these things new and even the dealer agreed that it was one on the least reliable cars MB ever built. You name it, the warranty replaced it. But, these are just another old banger now and should be as reliable as anything else of the same age since most parts have been changed. Fuel mileage is closer to 20/28. My 89 190E 2.6 was vastly better but of course wasn't a patch on my '08. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wheels
.Early W201s were fitted with Bunts, at least for the European marketJaime No bundts for the US 201s. 14 flat face wheels until 1/85 and 15 from then on along with other changes. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] stock vs website
...How can you not know by now that a large portion of Rusty's stock is not on the website. We talk about this nearly every single week... Because not all of the trivia on this list is memorized by me. And to be specific, the W204 (all models) uses one 24 type of blade, period. And the blades shown are for who knows what since they were all 18. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Luge accident
.I feel guilty asking this, but has anyone seen the actual video of the accident?... Yes. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] luge accident photos
...I feel guilty asking this, but has anyone seen the actual video of the accident?.. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1251087/Vancouver-Winter-O lympics-Nodar-Kumaritashvilis-body-sent-home-Georgia.html RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 201 wheels
...Nope, early 201's had 14 15 hole wheels. Bundts stopped in USA in 1985 Which is what I said without mentioning the hole count. The early '85 (until January production) was still really an '84 with the small wheels and no articulating wiper arm plus a lot of other changes including in the engine. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil subbing
...I think they make the aircraft oil red because it goes in the brakes so that when it is checked it can be seen to be the right stuff. Don't you need almost 4 quarts of oil to completely replace all the oil in the system?.. Urine can be substituted in a emergency. An aircraft crew carries it with them at all times. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 600 parts costs
According to a recently retired (after 38 years) tech at my dealer, the heater panel (a row of buttons) cost is ten grand. He tended for years to a 50K mile black 600 SWB that I would see in the service department from time to time. I had the opportunity to look at the bottom side once when it was in drydock on the lift. Made my Visa card tremble. He also did what had to be done on a few 108 Cabs which also can deplete your holdings. I am puzzled by the resentment and disdain shown here by a few toward cars of this sort. I am glad that those who have the resources to maintain and enjoy them do so because when I see a well kept example of an important MB, it's my pleasure. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whistler
As a motorcycle rider, I find some dark humour in the fact that his helmet didn't save him. (No helmet laws in Iowa.).. Uhhh, luge is feet first. Tonight's TV news showed the accident happening. Took about .5 second until he wrapped himself around the steel pole belly first. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] website parts
The web site is driven by one vendor, I have access to everything. If you don't see it on the web just call. We have it This week I decided I finally needed a pair of wiper blades for my '08 W204. But, no joy. None of the blades shown are for a W204. So I went to the dealer and after 5 minutes or so of CPR, I got up and paid the bill. Almost laughable. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Yet another craigslist link/not a 240D
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/ctd/1591281707.html RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Canepa
...Ought to be a crime to slap a bunch of tuner crap onto such a rarecar. Who are these Canepa people? Surely a 959 is going to be less valuable as a collectible (not to mention as a piece of Porsche history) if it's been modified by anyone, with the possible exception of RUF. First, look at this: http://www.canepa.com/trans/difference.html Canepa originated body kits for highway tractors long ago and now they are everywhere. Then, google Bruce Canepa for the rest of it. The 959 was never Federalized and so only heavy hitters such as Bill Gates, Paul Allen and Otis Chandler smuggled them into the US but had to hide them until they were caught by US Customs later. Canepa designed a federalization program which enabled them to be registered and driven here. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] crash safety not
What ever it is, we did verify that it's NOT a Smart Car ---.. And the sugar cane truck head-on (with a VW something) was nothing like this picture. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No spare?
...Bluetec benzes have no spare (or space for one), and require run-flats... Which Bluetec Benzes would that be? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
