Re: [MBZ] air pockets
,,,Speaking of such - panic, and all, I just reads this in the NYT --- Nearly all of the millions of flights that take off and land each year proceed safely, without incident. Any number of accidents can (but rarely do) put a flight in jeopardy: from engine failure, to the sudden apparition of a flock of geese, to electrical storms, to ice, to air pockets That's it. The reference to 'air pockets invalidates the whole article. People like this think there are two kinds of airplanes, Piper Cubs and 747s. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Please help etc......
..I watched the cops rousting the local cardboard sign gang from the off ramps today. I think the beggars are in a union. They all have numbered signs that they trade amongst themselves... So how is mao going to make a living, then? Oh wait, the usual shakedown by the Chicago Mayor's office will then provide a permit. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] your dent
..BIG SNIP..BTW, I don't want to be made rich, I was just curious about the used door thing. The nearest dealer is two hours away, and I really don't want to fool with getting the car there and back for the body work Look, you are going about this bass-ackwards. If you have chosen a body shop that can do the job that you require, get an estimate from them FIRST, And by the way, before the shop or your company sees the car, clean it up. And I mean clean. A clean car makes a big impression on those who have to work on it whether it's mechanical or body work and they will do a better job. If you bring in a dirty car with black wheels and crap all over the carpets, your question about paint matching will fall on deaf ears. And taking it to a dealer for body work is no guarantee of anything and in fact most of them don't have a body shop and will farm it out, adding their profit to the bill. Your comment about letting your own company's adjuster decide what the repair cost is before the body shop sees it can be bad because what the company does when the shop calls to tell them that it will cost more, the answer is If you want any more business from us, you will accept our price. Farmer's Insurance (for one) has done this and the quality of the repairs reflect it. Changing the door will cost far more than repairing it. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] LWB 912
...What's an LWB 912???... 1969 or 1976. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wrong year.
...Short Wheel Base - they were the 911s made 9/64 to 7/67 - after that (or some time in there) they all went to LWB... You are wrong. 1969 was the model year when the wheelbase was lengthened and production start was September 1968. I owned a 1968 911. I also picked up a 1968 911L at Zuffenhausen in September 1967. Both SWB cars. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio subsidy
I wonder how attractive bio-diesel is going to be now that the $1.00 per gallon federal subsidy (paid to the refiners) expired on 12/31. A local producer stated in a small newspaper article this week that he was receiving $48000 per week from the Feds and thought that passing along the buck a gallon increase might effect sales. Just yesterday I glanced over at the bio pump at my card-op station and the price was $3.63 per gallon. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Patrese
Patrese takes his eyetalian wife out for one lap. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpo8RDyOEWYfeature=related And without her it was quieter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM96Lp8CaxMfeature=related RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Your tax dollars at work
http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/6QlDvm/rense.com/general89/nav.htm RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Short field takeoff
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Re: [MBZ] weiss
...How annoyingly bright is a rear fog lamp?.. Very, but they are red. And showing a white light to the rear is illegal in my state. We are not talking about back-up lights. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Not new but fun to watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4KrIMZpwCY RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bags
Does optional vs standard make a difference? Rear side bags are an option on the 2010 E 350 About $700 (a guess) is the difference. My W203 2001 C320 had four door bags and curtain bags as standard. TeleAid was also standard. For the W204 rear bags became an option as did TeleAid. I skipped both. The side bags are now in the side of the front seat and fire forward. In some markets the driver gets a knee bag but not here. I would think the W212 arrangement would be the same. Crash tests (barrier and side impact) are on YouTube. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Parts on the move
Here's Kleb bringing home another parts donor car. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4AcqIG0fSAfeature=related RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W211 diesels
...I'm looking for a 2006 #20CDI because Consumer Reports states the 2005 model is a dog and to avoid that year, and So the question is...is the 2006 version reliable, etc?.. If you can swing it, the 2007 V-6 Bluetec is superior to both of them. Based on one a friend has been driving since early 2007. 35mpg highway and totally reliable. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Urea, not yet
...The 05 has the straight six and 06 and up they used a V6 including that latest Blutec models. Performance and fuel mileage are all about the same. Costs to operate the Blutec will be higher as you have to replenish the Urea ever so often... The V-6 Bluetec (first year 2007) does not have urea injection which is coming for the 2011 models. You have been misled. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bags
I've also noticed that Benz never rates well in the crash testing, usually because they don't crash one. Severe downgrades for not having active traction control whatever the h that is and no side impact airbags. I don't know where you got this because side bags and curtain bags have been used since 2001. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] crash tests
I've also noticed that Benz never rates well in the crash testing, usually because they don't crash one... All models have been crashed by TUV in Germany and the results published. The Insurance Institute also crashes them and the W204 C-Class got a top rating from them. Go to their website to see the Youtube results. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] gelb
...I'll find a link to mine - you find a link to yours. Deal? mao. I think you post this crackpot stuff just to see who's awake. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] oel
I was reading on the BMW forum and there are a bunch of folks who are saying that Mobil has been changed and it no longer holds up for the extended interval changes. Did something happen with Mobil 1?.. Let me put it this way. Do you think that everything posted on THIS list is accurate and based on fact and not something found scrawled on the wall in stall three at the truck stop men's room? And doesn't BMW insist on using their own branded oil? As they say on those courtroom TV shows, I rest my case. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] battery location
...Battery in the 3.0 is up front. Room, and also, to help balance out the weight of a car is why they'll often stick the battery in the trunk. The battery upfront is also somewhat isolated from the main engine bay... In the W202, the battery is in the trunk with a vent line overboard. The W203's is under the hood. The W204's is under the hood except the diesels where it's in the trunk on a big mounting plate next to the spare tire. The mounting in the trunk is present but not used in my W204 gasser. I think a big fat copper battery cable from a rear mounted battery up to the starter is a significant cost, also. A while back when I thought I'd eyeball the electrolyte level, I was surprised to see that the battery is sealed. So, no maintenance and it either works or it doesn't. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Buicks
...Yep, 'just found photo of '49 Buick with antenna turned downward and clipped into holder on the molding between the two windshield halves... Another Buick idea was the starter button under the gas pedal. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] sunroofs
You are correct, Curt. My 1975 W115 300D does have power windows. The sunroof, however, is a manual, sliding type. And it's huge, too. You don't see many sunroofs that big anymore. FWIW... The optional black glass Panorama roofs on the current cars are even larger although they don't slide. I skipped it on my present car mostly because of the nooks and crannies where dust could accumulate when the roof was tilted or opened. The weight of all that glass up high and the $1000 extra cost was a factor also. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Moo
..Milk is still priced (in New England especially) below the cost of production.. Milk has been available in Seattle for $1.99 per gallon for at least the last three years or so.. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Milk prices
Here the cheap milk is over $4 per gallon... Where is it coming from? No Okie dairy farms? What about Costco or the dreaded Walmart? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] alarms and cutoffs
...I read in the fuel system for the S classes in the late 80s and early 90s that there was a valve in the fuel line to prevent fuel flow when alarm was activated. I don't know that such a system would be also built into a 201 series in 1986, but it's possible I can't recall what either of my W201s may have had but the W202 C280 (without factory alarm, BTW) had a starter circuit interrupt through the driver's doorlock. The W203 had everything except a glass breakage detector as standard plus a motion detector which could be disabled with a dash button which had to be done when on a ferryboat. Otherwise... Over the ship's loudspeaker, Will the owner of the black Mercedes please report to the car deck and shut off the car alarm. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] gaping holes
I am not familiar with the later model glass roofs, and I don't know how far they actually open... The Pano roofs on the sedans are nearly as wide as the top and perhaps two feet long. When they open, they first tilt up and then slide back, perching on top of the roof. There is a second non opening glass over the rear seat and the inside covers (when closed) unfurl forward and backward simultaneously from the center crossbar. Quite a lot of components and motors etc for the price. I think the roof is standard in the E-Class coupe. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] gold?
There was a story I read recently that said the bars today are made of tungsten. So, India who made the last huge purchase from IMF perhaps has a stash of tungsten. An interesting concept. mao.. Really? Odd, since I just read a story recently saying today's gold bars are comprised of compressed horseshit painted rattle can gold. Lesseewhere did I see that?... RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Another SAAB story
General Motors has apparently extended its December 31 deadline to sell its Saab brand while continuing the 'orderly wind-down' process. A Saab spokesman also told just-auto today that the firm plans to resume the production of cars from January 11. GM said on December 18 that it would begin the wind-down of the brand after a proposed sale to Netherlands-based exotic sports car maker Spyker had hit due diligence problems. Spyker had emerged as a leading bidder for Saab following the withdrawal of Koenigsegg as preferred bidder in November. However, following GM's Saab wind-down announcement, Spyker submitted a revised bid amid some uncertainty over the status of GM's original December 31 sale deadline. Reports suggest that the end-year Saab sale deadline has now been dropped. Spyker Cars CEO Victor Muller told Reuters today that GM had extended the deadline for a final offer from Spyker Cars until January 7. Muller added he believed there are multiple bidders for Saab. Saab spokesman Eric Greer told just-auto today that GM had decided to initiate the wind-down process while at the same time evaluating bids. When GM will communicate the outcome of the evaluation we don't know, he said. He also confirmed that Saab will start meeting customer orders and will start producing cars from January 11. Publicly, GM executives have declined to identify their problems with Spyker, but several officials familiar with the private negotiations have said GM was troubled by Spyker's reliance on Russian loans to finance the deal, as well as the fate of Saab's proprietary technology under Spyker. The biggest investor in Spyker is the Russian bank Convers Group. Another snag has been the question of whether Spyker could win a loan from the European Investment Bank. Earlier this month, Saab also announced that it had closed on the sale of some 9-3, current 9-5 and powertrain technology and tooling to Beijing Automotive Industry Holdings (BAIC), a move that raised much-needed cash for the beleaguered brand. The news that the Trollhattan plant is planning a production resumption and that negotiations with Spyker (and possibly other bidders) are not yet dead will keep hopes alive in Sweden that a deal can be concluded early in the new year to keep Saab going - in some form - under a new owner. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E10
...You asked fuel with ethanol in a '91 300E I think the question is moot - can you buy fuel *without* 10% E?.. Certainly. I do it at least three times monthly. Not everyone lives where you do. And a 1991 model can use E10 if it has to. Even my 26+ year old Porsche can use it although it never has. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 steering
...I have the same car, same leak. It's steering rack seals... And here I thought the W210 was the first one with rack pinion steering. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Comic opera
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ0ue-XGl9c RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2009 awards??
If this is the same group of pictures which include the female scooter driver with her helmet on backwards and the lady cop with her car stuck in the wet concrete, this has been around for years. It pops up from time to time and has moss on it's north side. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 49, Issue 131
I have a Boeing trivia question. Wondered if you might have the answer. Apparently the DC9 has been re-designated as the Boeing 717 (the missing number)... The Douglas DC-9 morphed into the MD-80 (McDonnell-Douglas) and successors (MD-83) and when the Boeing/McDonnell-Douglas merger occurred, the remaining production M-D series were renamed Boeing 717 etc. I think American had more MD-80 and MD-83s than anyone but all their MD-series were to be retired last year and replaced with 737s because of fuel economy and noise. The 737-800 that was demolished in Jamaica yesterday was an American flight. I can't answer your other questions but I have freinds who can, if needed. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Heroism
http://www.militarytimes.com/multimedia/video/?bcrefid=808163493 RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Chinese Volvos
SWEDEN: Ford confirms Volvo sale 23 December 2009 | Source: just-auto.com editorial team Ford confirmed on Wednesday that all substantive commercial terms relating to the potential sale of Volvo Car Corporation have been settled between Ford and Zhejiang Geely Holding Group Company. While some work still remains to be completed before signing - including final documentation, financing and government approvals - Ford and Geely anticipate that a definitive sale agreement will be signed in the first quarter of 2010, with closing of the sale likely to occur in the second quarter 2010, subject to appropriate regulatory approvals, the automaker said in a statement. The prospective sale would ensure Volvo has the resources, including the capital investment, necessary to further strengthen the business and build its global franchise, while enabling Ford to continue to focus on and implement its core ONE Ford strategy. While Ford would continue to cooperate with Volvo Cars in several areas after a possible sale, the company does not intend to retain a shareholding in the business post-sale. More details will be made available once the expected definitive sale agreement is signed in the first quarter of 2010, Ford added. Geely was named as the favoured bidder for Volvo in October and the two companies had been said earlier to be ready to lay out an estimated timeline for completing the sale in a statement to be issued today. Volvo was put up for sale a year ago as Ford shed its overseas luxury brands to focus on the blue oval brand. Geely is understood to be offering about US$2bn, less than one-third what Ford paid for the Swedish unit a decade ago. People close to the talks told Bloomberg News ahead of the Ford announcement Geely was also planning to build a Volvo factory in China after the purchase is completed. Beijing is the most likely location although the Chinese carmaker is also considering two other cities for the facility. Ford and Geely are still finalising details and resolving sale issues such as protection of intellectual property. Geely wants to gain insights into western vehicle development and manufacturing through Volvo, people familiar with the negotiations have said. Intellectual property protection was a stumbling block in the takeover because Ford will continue supplying components following a sale. Geely Group said last month the Swedish company would retain ownership of technology following the sale. Geely is seeking Chinese government support for the Volvo acquisition and has hired German-based Roland Berger Strategy Consultants for advice on restructuring. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] output?
...The metal tape fix has you buff the stuff. Not sure if it made shiny, but it would have increased my output.. Plz don't increase your output. My ears are ringing as it is. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] foil fix
...Once mine get bad enough I'm thinking of trying spray 77 glue and aluminum foil.? This _is_ the Frankenheap, after all... I tried that fix decades ago on my 914-6 and I wouldn't call it acceptable. What was wrong with it?.. The foil was not nearly reflective enough even when smoothed as much as possible. The light was still too dim. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 DOB
w123s started in 78 - got one 77 RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] aluminium foil
...But is it better or worse than badly corroded factory reflectors?.. Oh well, gotta be better than that but just don't expect too much. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mactracker
I'm trying to remember when the Intel Macs came out, you might not be able to update... This might be useful if you don't have it already.. http://mactracker.dreamhosters.com/ RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Erl?
Is that WD40 like a diesel oil or a biodiesel kind of thing?.. Better watch out. Somebody will take this seriously. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OSX on PC?
I see no other reason that Apple would not market their OS to some of the 100 million PCs out there now running Windows Apple has stated many times that if OSX were redone to run on PCs, sales of Apple hardware would fade away. There are always those who will buy anything if it's a dime cheaper. Don't overlook the bloody obvious. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] erl
..Hey, who could tell me what is the best oil to use in my Benzes?.. In your cars, 3-in-1 or WD40 would be OK. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lichten
So why do so many of the cars I see with projector lights absolutely blind me with glare at night, whilst conventional headlights do not? A lot of reasons can be considered. Misadjusted light units. Cheap high wattage bulbs, white or bluish for the rice rocket crowd. Xenon or Bi-Xenons without OEM self levelling (required by Federal standards) or aftermarket Xenons installed in conventional lamps. Or any Ford truck built in the last twenty years. Another reason for glare is aging eyesight to include the beginnings of a cataract or simply the need for a new prescription. About ten years ago I got a new glasses prescription and immediately began seeing stars around oncoming headlights and night driving was worse than before. My Opthalmologist made a small change to the prescription and all was normal once more. You may need new glasses. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] too bright
Another problem with the projection lamps is that they don't, obviously, have the shield over the filament (other other light source) that removes the stray light coming off the source at an acute angle to the edge of the lamp (read glare)... This does not apply to Xenons or Bi-Xenons. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] reflectors
...Once mine get bad enough I'm thinking of trying spray 77 glue and aluminum foil. This _is_ the Frankenheap, after all... I tried that fix decades ago on my 914-6 and I wouldn't call it acceptable. The OEM reflector was chrome plated plastic and the plating tended to disappear over time. New lights was the answer which were available at the time. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Macs
The HowTo's I've found for my target MB all require a running Snow Leopard machine to prep the HD for the Hackintosh. Snow Leopard requires an Intel chip model, to begin with. Craigslist is a good place to troll for old macs once you decide which one. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Hitler's Panamera is delayed
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fNsm0RMnc4 RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] steering shafts
If you spike the steering wheel so they have to look at it all the time, it might have deterrent value. By the time the steering shaft comes flying back at them, it's too late to change their driving habits About ten years back, my friend CB moved back to Tacoma from Bend OR and he needed to get the remaining two of his cars home. So three of us set off from Tacoma in his Diesel Suburban (Banks Turbo) with the enclosed car trailer in tow. We stopped at his hangar at the Bend airport where the Cad-Allard and the '49 Super 88 convert were stored before heading to the hotel. The Allard went into the trailer and I drove the Oldsmobile. The Olds was one of those light green ones with the dark green leather interior and a black top. Sort of a Saturday night parade car. The big steering wheel had a half-round hub pointing right at my chest and I knew the other end was right out front. With the way it drove, I am convinced those Daytona Beach race drivers were real heroes because although it moved right along, changing direction was not it's strong suit. Anything over 70mph meant playing close attention to piloting the thing. I did remember to put the Hydra-Matic in reverse when parking it. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] morbid?
...Your of the opinion that, seat belts won't keep you alive in a crash. There is data to show that wearing eat belt will reduce the morbidity of an auto crash. I'll go with the data.. Definition: Morbidity is an incidence of ill health. It is measured in various ways, often by the probability that a randomly selected individual in a population at some date and location would become seriously ill in some period of time. Seatbelt usage reduces the chance of injury or death. There is no question about that. And anyone who does not use the available safety equipment in their car is a fool. Further, in some states failure to use it in a crash is judged to be contributory negligence. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] impalement
...An automotive writer in the 1990s suggested that traffic deaths would be fewer if instead of an airbag in the center of the steering wheel, we had a 6 steel spike, and the driver knew that if he hit anything, he was going to be impaled. It wasn't Egan, I suspect it was somebody at Carp Drivel And just what do you think those old cars with the steering shaft ending ahead of the front axle did to the beltless driver in a crash? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 140
TE, Having owned a used 1990 500SEL I can speak from experience. Before I bought the car I verified that the wiring harness, front suspension upgrade (more on that later) and the evaporator had been replaced. Would I buy another one? In a New York minute but it would be a 97 or newer S320 LWB. I'm after comfort, not speed! (my 2000 Corvette handles that need) The W140 was/is the most comfortable, roomy and best riding/handling car I ever owned, IMHO... Since the first 140 was a 1992, what are you talking about? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] belts
...Yep - I was taught to drive without seat belts, until I took driver's ed. However, my thin wallet taught me real quick to drive with seat belt, as I hate to pay the local police their fines... Is that the only reason? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] One hell of a camera, besides
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1234929/Cheating-death-The-moment-British-photographer-narrowly-escapes-crushed-runaway-drag-race-car.html RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MORE power
..The C 6.3 is the hot little car to have now, they're running around all over town here. I haven't driven a new 6.3, but I hear it's much more flexible than the old blown 5.5 it replaced That engine in the 2010 E63 is bumped up to 518hp which should be adequate for the memsahib for pootling down to the mall. And still getting 20mpg when you are careful. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 140
.The problem with the W140 is not mechanical, it's electronic. Self- igniting climate control, engine control (one box, does everything) and flaky wiring that fires the above again, make this a bad choice... Seems like the underdesigned front suspension, the door closers and their pump were mechanical. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Megasquirt
Hmmm. Sounds like some sort of distressing urological condition. RL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More 140 pleasure
...Not to mention the evaporator. Compared to the evap repair, the door closer issue is just pocket change... Oh well, sure but you take for granted everyone knows about that one since there have been hundreds of posts on the various MB lists over the years. I've seen a few 140s at the dealer in for an evap change and they look like the aftermath of a Bagdad car bombing. The 140 project was such a disaster that the head man was banished to Malaysia to run a trruck plant. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 6.3
...Yeah, Jay got a new 6.3 to install in his old 6.3, which is probably due for a rebuild anyway. They said they'll have to do a bit of modifying to get the new engine to fit, but should be interesting when it's all done... I'm assuming it's the new 6.3 as installed in the current cars across the range, certainly vastly better technology and reliability. In the C-Class it's rated at 451hp which will be bumped up to nearly 500 in it's next iteration. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Urea
...Kaleb wrote: they are talking about the CDI, not the Bluetec. Yea, I figured that out. I thought the CDI had the Urea thing also. I forgot that was a newer emission component to make it 50 state compliant under the new standard... No W211 diesels have used Urea at this point. The W212 Diesel will show up in the Spring and will include the Urea injection feature so as to be sold in California. And it may very well be an E250 2143cc 4-cylinder which is MB's new engine. It's turbochargedintercooled and rated at 210hp. It will likely be available in the C Class as well. Same hp as the V-6 Bluetec sold here in 2007. There were no 2008/2009 diesel W211s. Just the M G Classes. Urea and particulate filters have been used in Europe for a while now in big trucks so adapting them to passenger car engines is not plowing new ground. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] quality
...In our estimation of Benz products, we also consider quality of design, which includes the overall function of the car, the durability of the individual parts, and the ease and simplicity of service. Plus, quality of the interior and exterior. Paint, panel fit, trim etc. After all, the durability of a police or taxi Crown Vic is very good (if not excellent) but the exterior and interior are right out of the sixties. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Genesis
Drive a Hyundai Genesis (made by the same company) and get back to me. There's a reason why that car, by all reports, has the European luxury makers quaking in their boots, much as the first Lexus LS did in 1990. I have examined a Genesis and every last thing about it except that tinfoil grill is pretty damned impressive. Why don't you buy one, drive it 75K miles and get back to me with the service history. And the resale value, while you are at it. Who are the European makers you refer to? Not Mercedes, I'll bet, and the rest of them were on the ropes before Hyundai ceased to be a Korean shitbox which is just recently. BMW buyers wouldn't consider a Hyundai, even the beginners. And the rest, Jaguar, SAAB and Volvo can't blame their problems on Korea. The people who would buy a Genesis are the leasers who go for the make dujour on their next lease and have no particular loyalty to any make. After all, they are just renting because they are either too poor or too cheap to buy. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new diesel
Correction: MB's new OM 651 4-cylinder turbodiesel produces 204 DIN hp @ 4200 rpm, not 210 as I previously stated. Torque is 500 Nm @ 1600 rpm. Road test fuel consumption in a GLK was 9.7 L/100km. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Korean car lovers weep...
SOUTH KOREA: Court postpones Ssangyong fate decision 11 December 2009 | Source: just-auto.com editorial team A court decision on the future of debt-burdened SUV specialist Ssangyong Motor was on Friday delayed until 17 December after a revised rescue package failed to win approval from creditors. The court will decide on whether to approve the plan or liquidate Ssangyong. Ssangyong, which has debts totalling KRW1.23 trillion (US1.05bn ), last month submitted a plan to shareholders that it hoped would save it from failure. That plan was rejected by the creditors, forcing the revision, news agency AFP noted. The latest offer would see its biggest shareholder, China's SAIC Motor, having its 51% holding cut to 11.2% through a five-for-one writedown. Other shareholders would face a three-for-one reduction. That plan was also rejected Friday, leaving the fate of the carmaker with the Seoul Central District Court. Ssangyong spokesman Choi Jin-Woong told AFP: Our rehabilitation package failed to win approval again due to opposition from foreign creditors. We hope the court will push through our plan next week, he said. A Ssangyong source told just-auto insiders were still confident the automaker wouldn't be allowed to fail. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] warranty
..Hi Ed, Excellent post - re the MB warranty -- you'd think that if the Koreans can warranty their products for 10 years 100K miles, MB should be able match it. Of course, maybe I'm speaking too soon - how long is the MB full warranty? LarryT.. I think what you need to do is find exactly what those 100K warranties cover because there is no way in hell it's everything, unlike the MB 4/50 coverage. And, my '08 W204 has been so reliable that I'm not going to bother with extending the factory coverage when it expires. And who could stand to drive a Kia for ten years anyway? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] antifreeze
Unfortunately, the coolant was on the ground. :(.. Fatal to pets. Wash it away. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Stolen Cub
Haven't seen this airshow act for a long time. Don't think for one minute this is easy. www.franklinairshow.com/Video/Comedy%202010%20Net.WMV RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] B-17/B-29
A few pictures. With Kaleb's indulgence. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Falcoons
.You mean Adriatic Green? We always called it 'white', which it was unless you put it next to something that was actually white. Only then it was green. That color chalked badly. I think it was a 170 cubic inch and no idea what the HP may have been. In '60 there was only one engine: the 144. 85 BHP by the old-style measurement. Fairly torquey, though, as it was a pushrod inline 6. The 177 turned up a year or two later, followed by some V8's No, not that green. I guess it was white but not faded or oxidized by the time I got done with it. I now remember 144ci. 85 SAE then, 70 now? No idea what the mpg might have been. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Econoline pickup
The Falcon van Pickup! built to take on the VW transporter. I had a 66 van for years. By then they had dropped the falcon name.. I remember that one had a reputation of standing on it's nose after a panic unladen stop. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 49, Issue 40
No this wasn't the van thing, it was like a Ranchero, a car front half with a bed in back I passed a Rabbit Diesel pickup last week. Steering wheel under the driver's chin. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mental help
..no, i'm trying to get you to seek help for your mental conditions. Since you have a team of mental health professionals on staff, how about a referral? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] pix
A few pictures. With Kaleb's indulgence Rejected, apparently. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dear nutter
you are cross country from me though. wouldn't you do better looking locally?... Well, yes, but since you seem to have the answer to everything, I thought I would rely on your personal experience. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mpg
...My Dad had a '62 Falcon with 3 on the tree. IIRC the mileage was about 18 Likely better than the MB six of that period. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] posting pix
...I would guess not attached. With being rejected, nothing would appear on the list... I attached a folder containing three pix which must have been the wrong way to do it. It was held for approval, though. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] v-v-v
...Does anybody remember what V stands for?... Vincero. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] B-17/B-29 SLIDESHOW
These two aircraft are located in a secure hangar with the space donated by Boeing for the time being. The building is across from the control tower on E. Marginal Way south of the od Headquarters building. The B-29 is owned by the Museum and is under restoration for eventual public viewing but because of wing spar corrosion will never fly nor will the engines be started. It will be electrically functional including gun aiming and movement. The B-17, owned by Boeing, is airworthy but not flying by Boeing's choice. The pictures are unsorted for the most part and identified when necessary or able. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41820...@n07/show/ RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] B-17 slideshow foulup
Sorry. Those MBCA car show pics were tagged on by Flickr for some unknown reason. ignore them. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Daimler shift sparks union concerns
Daimler shift sparks union concerns This week’s decision by Daimler to shift parts of the future production of its best selling Mercedes C-Class sedan to the US exposes the mismatch between large domestic footprints and global sales of many German industrial companies. Daimler said earlier this week that it would centralise German production of the C-Class in Bremen and would start assembling the next generation of the model in its Tuscaloosa plant in the US from 2014. The plan was a blow to its 94-year-old Sindelfingen plant, where the C-Class will no longer be produced, and highlighted how managers are looking to expand plants in regions with low labour costs and weak currencies. Less than 25 per cent of Daimler’s sales are generated in its home country, but Daimler continues to employ about 60 per cent of its 273,000 workers in Germany. Rival carmakers and other large German industrial groups also lag behind in moving production to low-cost countries. Siemens, Europe’s largest engineering group, is one example. “Siemens’ manufacturing and headcount are heavily weighted towards Germany, which accounts for 17 per cent of sales but 27 per cent of Siemens’ production and 31 per cent of total employment,” said Andreas Willi, analyst at JPMorgan. “Addressing the industrial footprint ... would be a key value driver” for Siemens, Mr Willi said. Given many companies’ lopsided production footprint, Daimler’s decision this week sparked anxiety among German unions. IG Metall mobilised more than 10,000 Daimler workers on Wednesday against the move. Thanks to the weak dollar, workers in Alabama earn about €30 ($45) an hour, which compares with about €50 in Germany. Other premium carmakers such as BMW and Audi have been producing sports utility vehicles and smaller models in eastern Europe and other low-cost regions for a while. They have also started to spread production of their smallest sedans such as the C-Class around the world. Daimler is producing the C-Class at its South African plant and in China. Daimler’s arch-rival BMW is producing its 3 series sedan – which is comparable to the C-Class – mainly in Germany but also at its South African and Chinese plants. BMW does not plan to produce the model in the US because it can import it from South Africa without suffering from the two factors that make imports to the US expensive: the weak dollar and tariffs. South Africa’s rand is pegged to the dollar and there are no trade barriers between the two countries. But BMW has also ramped up production of its roadster and sports-utility models in the US. Norbert Reithofer, BMW’s chief executive, said: “We already made this decision two years ago when we agreed to lift production in our Spartanburg plant to 240,000 units.” Christoph Stürmer, analyst at IHS Global Insight, said that more than anything else, the decision showed the dire state of Daimler’s US plant. “The plant in Alabama is running far below capacity so Daimler had to do something about that,” he said. Mr Stürmer said that in spite of the skewed manufacturing footprint, he did not expect a wave of production shifts of the more expensive premium models from Germany to low-cost countries. “Germany has a high competency for complex products in small series, which makes up for cost disadvantages,” he said. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Museum of Flight
Dieselhead (?) challenges: What is the location? The Museum is located on East Marginal Way south at the SW corner of Boeing Field adjacent to the touchdown zone of runway 31L. It is on property formerly owned by the Port of Seattle which owns the airport. Boeing does not own the airport or the Museum. It has, however, provided all kinds of support, financial and otherwise and continues to do so.. For example, when the Museum's Concorde (on permanent loan from BA) arrived, Boeing provided the personnel and tugs to move it to it's temporary and later permanent parking spots. Their crash trucks were also on hand until it was shutdown for the last time. I was there. .tell us what is the red barn?... It is the original Boeing factory originally located on the Duwamish River upon which it was barged upstream and then moved across country a short distance to it's permanent location as a wing of the new Museum building. What is the name of the airport adjacent?.. The official name is King County International Airport but it's been called Boeing Field since the thirties (at least) by all including the FAA. When I first started flying out of there it was the 13th busiest airport in the world. So said the sign, at least. Nearly all General Aviation flights. Always pleased to be of service. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] SAAB reprieve
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/Industry-News/Saab-news-latest-Saabs-future-hangs-in-the-balance/ RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Falcons
...Same here with my '60 Falcon. When I first had it I'd have swapped it for a '70 in a heartbeat. Am I ever glad now that I didn't!... I bought an elderly Falcon as an interim car while waiting for my 914-6 which turned out to be five months. It was a '60 in that sort of almost-white, a 4-door 3 speed. It hummed along just fine once it reached cruising speed. Of course it had no crash safety whatsoever but who did? I think it was a 170 cubic inch and no idea what the HP may have been. Under 100 for sure. One of the great things about it was that it cost pennies to repair. I remember replacing both U-joints one night after dinner in about an hour with a few simple hand tools none of which was a torque wrench. Total cost must have been 10-12 bucks from the autoparts store. Changed all the brake shoes for about twice that. Wouldn't mind having it around today. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Boeing trivia
More Dieselhead: Who designed and oversaw construction of the B-17 that RLE toured? Boeing. .Who designed and oversaw construction of the B-29 that RLE toured? Boeing I think I've heard otherwise in re: who built this particular airplane. What major aircraft manufacturer claims Seattle as HQ? Boeing... Not anymore. Boeing moved it's official headquarters to Chicago a few years back. This was prior to the 787 debacle. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hurst calls
Hurst hursted, ..yeah, relingson really has some issues.. You're trying to get me to place a parts order, aren't you? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Boeing HQ move
...ok, I am a few years behind. That was a dumb move. Like when enron moved out of Omaha and lost their minds. Or when Gateway moved the execs out of South Dakota, and melted down.. Exactly so. Much criticism of the move. I'm told the company is run by the bean counters now, not the Engineers and the main consideration is the bottom line, thus the 787 fiasco. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] US built C-Class in 2014
This message was sent to all US dealers this morning: Dear employees As you know, in the last few weeks we have scrutinized the possible production locations for the Mercedes-Benz C-Class successor generation from 2014 on. This is our top-selling model series abroad. That is why it is particularly important to produce it in close proximity to our sales markets. With the present decision we will bolster the market-based production of our passenger car models worldwide in due consideration of our responsibility for Germany as a business location. At the same time, we will be able to safeguard the jobs of the Sindelfingen employees in C-Class production. In this context, the Board of Management has decided the following: The C-Class production for the European market and the model variants will be combined at the Bremen plant beginning in 2014. Through this bundling, we are improving our efficiency, reducing costs and bolstering the strength of the Bremen plant as a center of competence for the C-Class. From that time on, for the first time, the C-Class will also be produced at the Tuscaloosa plant for the key NAFTA market. This will enable us to achieve close-to-market production of the new C-Class sedan independent of currency fluctuations. At the same time, we can also utilize the existing capacities at Mercedes-Benz U.S. International (MBUSI). Currently, the local scopes account for nearly twenty percent of the C-Class production worldwide. To enable covering the approx. 20% higher C-Class production volume in the Bremen plant, the assembly of the SL roadster will be moved from Bremen to the Sindelfingen plant in return. We will use the resources freed up in Sindelfingen through the discontinuation of C-Class production to strengthen S indelfingen as a central technology and research location and worldwide competence center for the production of premium and luxury class vehicles, increasingly also with alternative drives. For the Sindelfingen plant, we have developed a personnel concept for compensating a substantial portion of the employment effects arising from the reorganization of C-Class production from 2014 through the assembly of the SL. The remaining affected employees, which number about 1,800, will also be offered attractive employment opportunities in the future. This will enable maintaining the employment of the Sindelfingen employees engaged in C-Class production. In Bremen, employment will be safeguarded for the long term as a result of the extended C-Class production. Due to the high regional demand in China, the capacity for the C-Class assembly at the Beijing plant is to be expanded as planned. Along with the future Rastatt-Kecskemét coordinated production system for our compact vehicles, the C-Class production network will make a decisive contribution to the even more dedicated use of our resources, thus ensuring clear and stable future prospects. We currently produce a good 80% of our vehicles in Western Europe but sell less than 60% there. This gap will continue to widen over the next few years and our overseas markets will increasingly gain in importance. That is why we must move our production closer to the market in order to facilitate an even quicker and more flexible response to regional customer requirements, utilize customs and logistical advantages and at the same time eliminate our dependency on currency fluctuations. In addition, by honing the expertise of our locations, we are reducing the level of complexity in our production processes. This is indispensable, particularly in the price-sensitive and intensely competitive segment of the C-Class. In this process, Germany will remain the essential core of our production network. A look at the figures illustrates this. Although we generate “only” around 28% of our revenues in Germany, 89% of our division’s employees work here. In addition, we recently announced that we want to invest around €3 billion in the German passenger car locations in 2009 and 2010. That, too, is another signal for Germany as a business location. We will explain all other details to the Works Council and elaborate the effects on the employment situation. Of course, we will keep you informed on the results and next steps! Yours, Dieter Zetsche Wilfried Porth Rainer Schmückl _ ___ RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Early Boeing
...Those would be skinny black ties too... With a pocket saver containing a slide rule and 5-6 pens. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Boeing
...Early Boeing was spruce and dope. Then they started making furniture.You are talking about a 40 year old Boeing. I thought you lived out there! You should go to the Boeing museum sometime instead of hanging out on this list!... I have gone through the Museum of Flight and the Red Barn many times including a private tour earlier this year of their B-17 and B-29 (not open to the public) with my friend SJB who is a docent. He is the one who built a new tail gunner's compartment (functional except for working guns) for the B-29 out of thin air, using the original drawings. And it is not the Boeing Museum as anyone there will tell you. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Huh?
...Of course, there are always lots of complaints, which is why I am not sure why you keep buying MB products... Uh huh. There are so many things that you just don't get that this one is just a grain of sand on the cosmic beach. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] feetchus
With the Garmin, can you change the view on it from true north, relative north (map rotates as you change directions but the position marker stays the same) and 3d view?.. It's probably magnetic north which is not the same. And the current MB system offers north up or heading up plus bird's eye view which I don't like. And varying scale. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RATINGS
The Altimax HP have a high sticky to price ratio. Treadwear rating is something like 440, the Altimax RT is more like 700. I couldn't believe these numbers so went out to the garage to check my own tires. The C300's tires have a treadwear rating of 140 and a W speed rating. They have 17500 miles on them and have 7-8/32 tread remaining and are the best rain tires I have ever driven on. They are traction-free in snow. The car was built with lowest-bidder Conti Super Contact tires which were removed before delivery. Sold the four on Craigslist for $275 and was lucky to get it. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Worth reading
Can't remember if this has been seen before or not, so http://398th.org/History/Articles/Remembrances/Ostrom_FortressHome.html RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Pigeon Impossible
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEjUAnPc2VAfeature=player_embedded ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] snow, she's a comin'
.traction-less in snow It is your neck.. My winter tires are Nokian WRG2 mounted on the original 17 wheels. They do good. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] round black things
...And those tires on the C300 are?.. Bridgestone RE050A 225/40 255/35-18. Car P has RE050A Pole Position. 205/55 225/50-16 RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kleb x 3
...I got 3 copies --R.. There you have it. Fix it. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] support
Ahh the complaints of a non-supporter of a free service... What do you mean by non-supporter? I can't picture anyone as cheap as you sending money to Kleb for anything. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] SAAB fades
Saab Automobile on Tuesday faced the threat of closure as the General Motors board met on Tuesday (1 December, 2009) to hammer out plans after a deal collapsed to sell the Swedish brand. Time is running out for Saab after Swedish luxury car maker Koenigsegg pulled out of bid talks last week, putting in doubt the future of the loss-making GM unit and analysts have said the most likely outcome is a closure, Reuters noted. The reality is that to try to get someone in at this stage just looks not feasible, an auto analyst who requested anonymity told the news agency. There is no further quality offer likely to pop up. According to the report, Saab and the Swedish government have said other investors have approached GM regarding Saab, but in light of the US car maker's vow to drop the brand by early 2010, there is very little time in which to forge a new deal. It is clear that they (GM) have to find a solution as quickly as possible, without high costs and without creating a situation of new competition, said professor Christer Karlsson at Copenhagen Business School. For instance you can't sell it to anybody who wants to sell Saab on the Chinese market because then it will compete with GM's own products, since the new Buick [LaCrosse] is more or less the same car as the new Saab. According to the news agency, Swedish government officials met with GM this week ahead of the board meeting, which was expected to last all of Tuesday [EST], to underline that it was ready to provide loan guarantees to a new owner though it has ruled out taking a stake in Saab. State secretary Joran Hagglund told Swedish news agency TT after the meeting with GM in Detroit that he remained hopeful that a closure of the 60-year-old brand might be avoided. Beijing Automotive Industry Holding Corp (BAIC), which tied up with Koeningsegg in October, could still be among the possible contenders to take over Saab, which has not made a profit since 2001, Reuters added. The report noted that Merbanco Merchant Banking, based in Wyoming, has also said it remains interested in Saab while US financier Ira Rennert and his Renco Group had also expressed interest in pursuing a deal for Saab before GM struck a preliminary deal with Koenigsegg earlier this year. Meanwhile, Bloomberg News, citing two people familiar with the talks, said GM may sell parts of Saab to BAIC and shutter the brand. A sale of assets, including production machinery, was among GM's options, the sources said. Beijing Auto plans to move fast on Saab to help improve its technology, the automaker's president Wang Dazong said yesterday, according to Bloomberg. It's very difficult to see a future for Saab, Stefan Bratzel, director of the Centre of Automotive at the University of Applied Sciences in Bergisch Gladbach, Germany. Beijing Auto is one of the potential candidates because Chinese manufacturers are looking for a foothold in Europe and need the distribution network, the technology and the brand, he was quoted as saying. The Wall Street Journal has suggested that Saab might sell BAIC the tooling for the outgoing 9-5 model, which dates back to the 1980s 9000 model on a platform developed jointly with the Fiat Group. Saab recently showed off a fully redesigned 9-5 for the 2010 model year - the first full makeover for the model in years - but it now seems unlikely this new car will ever go into production. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Zeppelin over SFO
http://home.comcast.net/~bzee1b/Zeppelin/Zeppelin.html RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com