Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E
OMG! The misinformation I would propagate without Hendrik to keep me straight. Thanks Hendrik I mean well. 18. Re: 1984 230E (Hendrik Fay) From: Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E Actually the 102 did not make an appearance until 1980, prior to that the M115 was the I4 engine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mercedes-Benz_engines Hendrik who used to own a 200 with 4sp man and a 230E with auto and later with a 5sp man box Robert Bigham wrote: I have a greymarket 1983 230E. It's fuel injected; that's what the E means. Einspritzmotor. As you may suspect, I've had to learn things about it that I didn't really want to know; the parts places (not Rusty) know nothing. MBUSA knows all about it. The dealers generally pull a Sergeant Schultz. It's not in their databases. To some, it's just a 240D in drag. The earlier, 1977-78 or so, cars were 230 without the E or maybe 200. Still a 102 engine. They had carburetors. 230, 230C, and 230 something else, IIRC. -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com End of Mercedes Digest, Vol 50, Issue 156 * ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E
I have a greymarket 1983 230E. It's fuel injected; that's what the E means. Einspritzmotor. As you may suspect, I've had to learn things about it that I didn't really want to know; the parts places (not Rusty) know nothing. MBUSA knows all about it. The dealers generally pull a Sergeant Schultz. It's not in their databases. To some, it's just a 240D in drag. The earlier, 1977-78 or so, cars were 230 without the E or maybe 200. Still a 102 engine. They had carburetors. 230, 230C, and 230 something else, IIRC. 1. Re: 1984 230E (Kaleb C. Striplin) 2. Re: 1984 230E (Kaleb C. Striplin) 3. Re: 1984 230E (Curt Raymond) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:28:55 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E Message-ID: 4b5dd4d7.7090...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed If it was carburated, it would just be a 230C, the E means its fuel injected. I sure have never heard of such a beast though. tom tomscat wrote: Hi Dieselhead, I believe your info is incomplete. My info says that engine was available in a carburetor version until 1990. I am now at work, more or less, and I checked my records. The car I had (in March 2006) was a 1984 230CE and it was carbureted. Last 7 digits of the VIN were: AO95696. I distinctly remember the carburetor, because it backfired repeatedly thru the carburetor when we tried to start it, and I had to put out more than one minor flame-up. Which put the Fear of God into a couple of casual onlookers, btw. :) It was a great little collectible car, but it needed a lot of restoration. Thanks, Dwight, for the pics. That is definitely a different car than the one I briefly had custody of, from what I can tell from those lousy pics. Mine was a coupe. Sheesh, could he have taken a WORSE picture???They reminded me of the pics Vinny Gambini had in MY COUSIN VINNY, taken through a filthy screen. :) God, I love that movie! Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D (may be going up for sale shortly to make some room) and a bunch of BMWs (adding a 6th today) Message: 2 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:25:21 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E Message-ID: a0624081dc782db88f...@[192.168.1.112] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Carb engined 123 was only in 77 and 78 according to the info I found. All from 79 on were einspritz Hi Curt, I run a residential facility here in CT. I have had a car donation fundraising program for the past several years. A couple of years ago someone donated a grey market 230E, cant remember if it was an 1983 or 1984. (I am gonna check my records at work tomorrow, it may have been a 230CE.) It was a W123 chassis, however, in need of restoration. I only had it on hand for a short time before selling to some gearhead immigrants from western CT. Since it was an unregistered vehicle, and badly in need of a tuneup, we had no real idea of the power and economy. It was a neat car, though, with a carbureted gasoline engine in the w123 chassis. FWIW, wikipedia has some info on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W123 I am curious if that is the same car that Dwight saw. The one I had was white with a blue cloth interior. Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E
Actually the 102 did not make an appearance until 1980, prior to that the M115 was the I4 engine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mercedes-Benz_engines Hendrik who used to own a 200 with 4sp man and a 230E with auto and later with a 5sp man box Robert Bigham wrote: I have a greymarket 1983 230E. It's fuel injected; that's what the E means. Einspritzmotor. As you may suspect, I've had to learn things about it that I didn't really want to know; the parts places (not Rusty) know nothing. MBUSA knows all about it. The dealers generally pull a Sergeant Schultz. It's not in their databases. To some, it's just a 240D in drag. The earlier, 1977-78 or so, cars were 230 without the E or maybe 200. Still a 102 engine. They had carburetors. 230, 230C, and 230 something else, IIRC. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E
Robert wrote: I have a greymarket 1983 230E. It's fuel injected; that's what the E means. Einspritzmotor. If you want to sell it - let me know. From what jabba says - it sounds like a nice ride. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E
I was talking about a 84, completely different deal than the 60's/70's Donald Snook wrote: Kaleb wrote: oh yea, its was a 250, not a 280, I was thinking 280 for some reason. Your confusion is understandable. The 250 originally had a 2.5 engine. By the middle of the production run for 1971 models, they switched over to the 2.8 engine. My 71 250 had the 2.8 engine. But, I had a friend with an earlier model with the 2.5. Of course, none of this is relevant to this discussion, because my 2.8 engine had the two carb set up. But, the 280SL did have the mechanical fuel injection in 1971. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E
Tom, This one looks blue in the foggy pictures. http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/1556815460.html Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of tom tomscat Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 12:00 AM To: mercedes diesel Subject: [MBZ] 1984 230E Hi Curt, I run a residential facility here in CT. I have had a car donation fundraising program for the past several years. A couple of years ago someone donated a grey market 230E, cant remember if it was an 1983 or 1984. (I am gonna check my records at work tomorrow, it may have been a 230CE.) It was a W123 chassis, however, in need of restoration. I only had it on hand for a short time before selling to some gearhead immigrants from western CT. Since it was an unregistered vehicle, and badly in need of a tuneup, we had no real idea of the power and economy. It was a neat car, though, with a carbureted gasoline engine in the w123 chassis. FWIW, wikipedia has some info on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W123 I am curious if that is the same car that Dwight saw. The one I had was white with a blue cloth interior. edes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1984 230E
Hi Dieselhead, I believe your info is incomplete. My info says that engine was available in a carburetor version until 1990. I am now at work, more or less, and I checked my records. The car I had (in March 2006) was a 1984 230CE and it was carbureted. Last 7 digits of the VIN were: AO95696. I distinctly remember the carburetor, because it backfired repeatedly thru the carburetor when we tried to start it, and I had to put out more than one minor flame-up. Which put the Fear of God into a couple of casual onlookers, btw. :) It was a great little collectible car, but it needed a lot of restoration. Thanks, Dwight, for the pics. That is definitely a different car than the one I briefly had custody of, from what I can tell from those lousy pics. Mine was a coupe. Sheesh, could he have taken a WORSE picture???They reminded me of the pics Vinny Gambini had in MY COUSIN VINNY, taken through a filthy screen. :) God, I love that movie! Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D (may be going up for sale shortly to make some room) and a bunch of BMWs (adding a 6th today) Message: 2 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:25:21 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E Message-ID: a0624081dc782db88f...@[192.168.1.112] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Carb engined 123 was only in 77 and 78 according to the info I found. All from 79 on were einspritz Hi Curt, I run a residential facility here in CT. I have had a car donation fundraising program for the past several years. A couple of years ago someone donated a grey market 230E, cant remember if it was an 1983 or 1984. (I am gonna check my records at work tomorrow, it may have been a 230CE.) It was a W123 chassis, however, in need of restoration. I only had it on hand for a short time before selling to some gearhead immigrants from western CT. Since it was an unregistered vehicle, and badly in need of a tuneup, we had no real idea of the power and economy. It was a neat car, though, with a carbureted gasoline engine in the w123 chassis. FWIW, wikipedia has some info on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W123 I am curious if that is the same car that Dwight saw. The one I had was white with a blue cloth interior. Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs (adding a Euro Baur Monday night) Message: 13 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 20:50:31 -0500 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] '84 230E Message-ID: 8b0e7cce1001241750k3e210b4cvde21f7400c84f...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 same as a 190e 2.3. maybe a tad heavier but i will get out of its own way On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Anybody know anything about an '84 230E? Dwight's found one. Grey market car, 5spd (supposedly anyway) trans. Seller wants $1000 but says it needs ball joints (Ball joints you say? Sucks on teeth Jeez, that could run into money. What do you think about $800 for this jalopy?) but has had other front end work done already. What kind of mileage could one expect? How much power? -Curt _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E
There were numerous carbureted engines in the Euro chassis models - I had a 1984 250LWB, and it had a 2.5 liter normally aspirated engine with a single two barrel carb. I can't recall the brand of carb at the moment, suffice to say they were known for the top covers warping and were made of unobtainium. I put a Holley 2300 conversion on it and it ran fine. Dan --- On Mon, 1/25/10, tom tomscat tomsc...@hotmail.com wrote: From: tom tomscat tomsc...@hotmail.com Subject: [MBZ] 1984 230E To: mercedes diesel mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, January 25, 2010, 7:58 AM Hi Dieselhead, I believe your info is incomplete. My info says that engine was available in a carburetor version until 1990. I am now at work, more or less, and I checked my records. The car I had (in March 2006) was a 1984 230CE and it was carbureted. Last 7 digits of the VIN were: AO95696. I distinctly remember the carburetor, because it backfired repeatedly thru the carburetor when we tried to start it, and I had to put out more than one minor flame-up. Which put the Fear of God into a couple of casual onlookers, btw. :) It was a great little collectible car, but it needed a lot of restoration. Thanks, Dwight, for the pics. That is definitely a different car than the one I briefly had custody of, from what I can tell from those lousy pics. Mine was a coupe. Sheesh, could he have taken a WORSE picture??? They reminded me of the pics Vinny Gambini had in MY COUSIN VINNY, taken through a filthy screen. :) God, I love that movie! Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D (may be going up for sale shortly to make some room) and a bunch of BMWs (adding a 6th today) Message: 2 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:25:21 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E Message-ID: a0624081dc782db88f...@[192.168.1.112] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Carb engined 123 was only in 77 and 78 according to the info I found. All from 79 on were einspritz Hi Curt, I run a residential facility here in CT. I have had a car donation fundraising program for the past several years. A couple of years ago someone donated a grey market 230E, cant remember if it was an 1983 or 1984. (I am gonna check my records at work tomorrow, it may have been a 230CE.) It was a W123 chassis, however, in need of restoration. I only had it on hand for a short time before selling to some gearhead immigrants from western CT. Since it was an unregistered vehicle, and badly in need of a tuneup, we had no real idea of the power and economy. It was a neat car, though, with a carbureted gasoline engine in the w123 chassis. FWIW, wikipedia has some info on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W123 I am curious if that is the same car that Dwight saw. The one I had was white with a blue cloth interior. Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs (adding a Euro Baur Monday night) Message: 13 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 20:50:31 -0500 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] '84 230E Message-ID: 8b0e7cce1001241750k3e210b4cvde21f7400c84f...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 same as a 190e 2.3. maybe a tad heavier but i will get out of its own way On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Anybody know anything about an '84 230E? Dwight's found one. Grey market car, 5spd (supposedly anyway) trans. Seller wants $1000 but says it needs ball joints (Ball joints you say? Sucks on teeth Jeez, that could run into money. What do you think about $800 for this jalopy?) but has had other front end work done already. What kind of mileage could one expect? How much power? -Curt _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo
Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E
Tom Schuch wrote in his signature line: 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs Hey! Now, I have a fellow BMW owner on this List! Tom, what BMW's do you have? Donald H. Snook 1997 BMW 740iL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E
My info came from Mercedesclub.de. If the car was a 230CE, then by definition, it was injected when it left the factory. Someone could have swapped an older engine into it, or may have installed manifold and carb off another engine. Your donation car is a mystery to me. Hi Dieselhead, I believe your info is incomplete. My info says that engine was available in a carburetor version until 1990. I am now at work, more or less, and I checked my records. The car I had (in March 2006) was a 1984 230CE and it was carbureted. Last 7 digits of the VIN were: AO95696. I distinctly remember the carburetor, because it backfired repeatedly thru the carburetor when we tried to start it, and I had to put out more than one minor flame-up. Which put the Fear of God into a couple of casual onlookers, btw. :) It was a great little collectible car, but it needed a lot of restoration. Thanks, Dwight, for the pics. That is definitely a different car than the one I briefly had custody of, from what I can tell from those lousy pics. Mine was a coupe. Sheesh, could he have taken a WORSE picture???They reminded me of the pics Vinny Gambini had in MY COUSIN VINNY, taken through a filthy screen. :) God, I love that movie! Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D (may be going up for sale shortly to make some room) and a bunch of BMWs (adding a 6th today) Message: 2 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:25:21 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E Message-ID: a0624081dc782db88f...@[192.168.1.112] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Carb engined 123 was only in 77 and 78 according to the info I found. All from 79 on were einspritz Hi Curt, I run a residential facility here in CT. I have had a car donation fundraising program for the past several years. A couple of years ago someone donated a grey market 230E, cant remember if it was an 1983 or 1984. (I am gonna check my records at work tomorrow, it may have been a 230CE.) It was a W123 chassis, however, in need of restoration. I only had it on hand for a short time before selling to some gearhead immigrants from western CT. Since it was an unregistered vehicle, and badly in need of a tuneup, we had no real idea of the power and economy. It was a neat car, though, with a carbureted gasoline engine in the w123 chassis. FWIW, wikipedia has some info on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W123 I am curious if that is the same car that Dwight saw. The one I had was white with a blue cloth interior. Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs (adding a Euro Baur Monday night) Message: 13 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 20:50:31 -0500 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] '84 230E Message-ID: 8b0e7cce1001241750k3e210b4cvde21f7400c84f...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 same as a 190e 2.3. maybe a tad heavier but i will get out of its own way On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Anybody know anything about an '84 230E? Dwight's found one. Grey market car, 5spd (supposedly anyway) trans. Seller wants $1000 but says it needs ball joints (Ball joints you say? Sucks on teeth Jeez, that could run into money. What do you think about $800 for this jalopy?) but has had other front end work done already. What kind of mileage could one expect? How much power? -Curt _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E
Dieselhead wrote: My info came from Mercedesclub.de. If the car was a 230CE, then by definition, it was injected when it left the factory. Someone could have swapped an older engine into it, or may have installed manifold and carb off another engine. Your donation car is a mystery to me. Trunk badges can be changed too. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E
There was a 280 that was carb, I want to say it was a M123 engine? I had one in my 84 280 LWB 123 Dieselhead wrote: Carb engined 123 was only in 77 and 78 according to the info I found. All from 79 on were einspritz Hi Curt, I run a residential facility here in CT. I have had a car donation fundraising program for the past several years. A couple of years ago someone donated a grey market 230E, cant remember if it was an 1983 or 1984. (I am gonna check my records at work tomorrow, it may have been a 230CE.) It was a W123 chassis, however, in need of restoration. I only had it on hand for a short time before selling to some gearhead immigrants from western CT. Since it was an unregistered vehicle, and badly in need of a tuneup, we had no real idea of the power and economy. It was a neat car, though, with a carbureted gasoline engine in the w123 chassis. FWIW, wikipedia has some info on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W123 I am curious if that is the same car that Dwight saw. The one I had was white with a blue cloth interior. Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs (adding a Euro Baur Monday night) Message: 13 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 20:50:31 -0500 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] '84 230E Message-ID: 8b0e7cce1001241750k3e210b4cvde21f7400c84f...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 same as a 190e 2.3. maybe a tad heavier but i will get out of its own way On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Anybody know anything about an '84 230E? Dwight's found one. Grey market car, 5spd (supposedly anyway) trans. Seller wants $1000 but says it needs ball joints (Ball joints you say? Sucks on teeth Jeez, that could run into money. What do you think about $800 for this jalopy?) but has had other front end work done already. What kind of mileage could one expect? How much power? -Curt _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E
If it was carburated, it would just be a 230C, the E means its fuel injected. I sure have never heard of such a beast though. tom tomscat wrote: Hi Dieselhead, I believe your info is incomplete. My info says that engine was available in a carburetor version until 1990. I am now at work, more or less, and I checked my records. The car I had (in March 2006) was a 1984 230CE and it was carbureted. Last 7 digits of the VIN were: AO95696. I distinctly remember the carburetor, because it backfired repeatedly thru the carburetor when we tried to start it, and I had to put out more than one minor flame-up. Which put the Fear of God into a couple of casual onlookers, btw. :) It was a great little collectible car, but it needed a lot of restoration. Thanks, Dwight, for the pics. That is definitely a different car than the one I briefly had custody of, from what I can tell from those lousy pics. Mine was a coupe. Sheesh, could he have taken a WORSE picture???They reminded me of the pics Vinny Gambini had in MY COUSIN VINNY, taken through a filthy screen. :) God, I love that movie! Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D (may be going up for sale shortly to make some room) and a bunch of BMWs (adding a 6th today) Message: 2 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:25:21 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E Message-ID: a0624081dc782db88f...@[192.168.1.112] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Carb engined 123 was only in 77 and 78 according to the info I found. All from 79 on were einspritz Hi Curt, I run a residential facility here in CT. I have had a car donation fundraising program for the past several years. A couple of years ago someone donated a grey market 230E, cant remember if it was an 1983 or 1984. (I am gonna check my records at work tomorrow, it may have been a 230CE.) It was a W123 chassis, however, in need of restoration. I only had it on hand for a short time before selling to some gearhead immigrants from western CT. Since it was an unregistered vehicle, and badly in need of a tuneup, we had no real idea of the power and economy. It was a neat car, though, with a carbureted gasoline engine in the w123 chassis. FWIW, wikipedia has some info on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W123 I am curious if that is the same car that Dwight saw. The one I had was white with a blue cloth interior. Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs (adding a Euro Baur Monday night) Message: 13 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 20:50:31 -0500 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] '84 230E Message-ID: 8b0e7cce1001241750k3e210b4cvde21f7400c84f...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 same as a 190e 2.3. maybe a tad heavier but i will get out of its own way On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Anybody know anything about an '84 230E? Dwight's found one. Grey market car, 5spd (supposedly anyway) trans. Seller wants $1000 but says it needs ball joints (Ball joints you say? Sucks on teeth Jeez, that could run into money. What do you think about $800 for this jalopy?) but has had other front end work done already. What kind of mileage could one expect? How much power? -Curt _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E
oh yea, its was a 250, not a 280, I was thinking 280 for some reason. LWB250 wrote: There were numerous carbureted engines in the Euro chassis models - I had a 1984 250LWB, and it had a 2.5 liter normally aspirated engine with a single two barrel carb. I can't recall the brand of carb at the moment, suffice to say they were known for the top covers warping and were made of unobtainium. I put a Holley 2300 conversion on it and it ran fine. Dan --- On Mon, 1/25/10, tom tomscat tomsc...@hotmail.com wrote: From: tom tomscat tomsc...@hotmail.com Subject: [MBZ] 1984 230E To: mercedes diesel mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, January 25, 2010, 7:58 AM Hi Dieselhead, I believe your info is incomplete. My info says that engine was available in a carburetor version until 1990. I am now at work, more or less, and I checked my records. The car I had (in March 2006) was a 1984 230CE and it was carbureted. Last 7 digits of the VIN were: AO95696. I distinctly remember the carburetor, because it backfired repeatedly thru the carburetor when we tried to start it, and I had to put out more than one minor flame-up. Which put the Fear of God into a couple of casual onlookers, btw. :) It was a great little collectible car, but it needed a lot of restoration. Thanks, Dwight, for the pics. That is definitely a different car than the one I briefly had custody of, from what I can tell from those lousy pics. Mine was a coupe. Sheesh, could he have taken a WORSE picture???They reminded me of the pics Vinny Gambini had in MY COUSIN VINNY, taken through a filthy screen. :) God, I love that movie! Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D (may be going up for sale shortly to make some room) and a bunch of BMWs (adding a 6th today) Message: 2 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:25:21 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E Message-ID: a0624081dc782db88f...@[192.168.1.112] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Carb engined 123 was only in 77 and 78 according to the info I found. All from 79 on were einspritz Hi Curt, I run a residential facility here in CT. I have had a car donation fundraising program for the past several years. A couple of years ago someone donated a grey market 230E, cant remember if it was an 1983 or 1984. (I am gonna check my records at work tomorrow, it may have been a 230CE.) It was a W123 chassis, however, in need of restoration. I only had it on hand for a short time before selling to some gearhead immigrants from western CT. Since it was an unregistered vehicle, and badly in need of a tuneup, we had no real idea of the power and economy. It was a neat car, though, with a carbureted gasoline engine in the w123 chassis. FWIW, wikipedia has some info on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W123 I am curious if that is the same car that Dwight saw. The one I had was white with a blue cloth interior. Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs (adding a Euro Baur Monday night) Message: 13 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 20:50:31 -0500 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] '84 230E Message-ID: 8b0e7cce1001241750k3e210b4cvde21f7400c84f...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 same as a 190e 2.3. maybe a tad heavier but i will get out of its own way On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Anybody know anything about an '84 230E? Dwight's found one. Grey market car, 5spd (supposedly anyway) trans. Seller wants $1000 but says it needs ball joints (Ball joints you say? Sucks on teeth Jeez, that could run into money. What do you think about $800 for this jalopy?) but has had other front end work done already. What kind of mileage could one expect? How much power? -Curt _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go
Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E
Was yours maybe a 230C rather than a 230CE? I thought the E made it injected... Of course we have no idea the abomination some previous owner may have made of the car... -Curt Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 07:58:16 -0500 From: tom tomscat tomsc...@hotmail.com To: mercedes diesel mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 1984 230E Message-ID: bay109-w366aca31a70823634698df8d...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Dieselhead, I believe your info is incomplete. My info says that engine was available in a carburetor version until 1990. I am now at work, more or less, and I checked my records. The car I had (in March 2006) was a 1984 230CE and it was carbureted. Last 7 digits of the VIN were: AO95696. I distinctly remember the carburetor, because it backfired repeatedly thru the carburetor when we tried to start it, and I had to put out more than one minor flame-up. Which put the Fear of God into a couple of casual onlookers, btw. :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E
Kaleb wrote: oh yea, its was a 250, not a 280, I was thinking 280 for some reason. Your confusion is understandable. The 250 originally had a 2.5 engine. By the middle of the production run for 1971 models, they switched over to the 2.8 engine. My 71 250 had the 2.8 engine. But, I had a friend with an earlier model with the 2.5. Of course, none of this is relevant to this discussion, because my 2.8 engine had the two carb set up. But, the 280SL did have the mechanical fuel injection in 1971. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1984 230E
Hi Curt, I run a residential facility here in CT. I have had a car donation fundraising program for the past several years. A couple of years ago someone donated a grey market 230E, cant remember if it was an 1983 or 1984. (I am gonna check my records at work tomorrow, it may have been a 230CE.) It was a W123 chassis, however, in need of restoration. I only had it on hand for a short time before selling to some gearhead immigrants from western CT. Since it was an unregistered vehicle, and badly in need of a tuneup, we had no real idea of the power and economy. It was a neat car, though, with a carbureted gasoline engine in the w123 chassis. FWIW, wikipedia has some info on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W123 I am curious if that is the same car that Dwight saw. The one I had was white with a blue cloth interior. Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs (adding a Euro Baur Monday night) Message: 13 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 20:50:31 -0500 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] '84 230E Message-ID: 8b0e7cce1001241750k3e210b4cvde21f7400c84f...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 same as a 190e 2.3. maybe a tad heavier but i will get out of its own way On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Anybody know anything about an '84 230E? Dwight's found one. Grey market car, 5spd (supposedly anyway) trans. Seller wants $1000 but says it needs ball joints (Ball joints you say? Sucks on teeth Jeez, that could run into money. What do you think about $800 for this jalopy?) but has had other front end work done already. What kind of mileage could one expect? How much power? -Curt _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E
Carb engined 123 was only in 77 and 78 according to the info I found. All from 79 on were einspritz Hi Curt, I run a residential facility here in CT. I have had a car donation fundraising program for the past several years. A couple of years ago someone donated a grey market 230E, cant remember if it was an 1983 or 1984. (I am gonna check my records at work tomorrow, it may have been a 230CE.) It was a W123 chassis, however, in need of restoration. I only had it on hand for a short time before selling to some gearhead immigrants from western CT. Since it was an unregistered vehicle, and badly in need of a tuneup, we had no real idea of the power and economy. It was a neat car, though, with a carbureted gasoline engine in the w123 chassis. FWIW, wikipedia has some info on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W123 I am curious if that is the same car that Dwight saw. The one I had was white with a blue cloth interior. Tom Schuch 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs (adding a Euro Baur Monday night) Message: 13 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 20:50:31 -0500 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] '84 230E Message-ID: 8b0e7cce1001241750k3e210b4cvde21f7400c84f...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 same as a 190e 2.3. maybe a tad heavier but i will get out of its own way On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Anybody know anything about an '84 230E? Dwight's found one. Grey market car, 5spd (supposedly anyway) trans. Seller wants $1000 but says it needs ball joints (Ball joints you say? Sucks on teeth Jeez, that could run into money. What do you think about $800 for this jalopy?) but has had other front end work done already. What kind of mileage could one expect? How much power? -Curt _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
