Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q

2006-07-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

NOPE!

I also mentioned I had one available if his was actually missing for 
some reason


Marshall Booth wrote:

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Isnt that what I said days ago?


YEP! But apparently somebody didn't hear!

Marshall





Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q

2006-07-13 Thread R A Bennell
Thanks Kaleb, but it is there. A black plastic knob to the rear of the filter 
housing. Do I unscrew it or?? I
assume it is a plunger mechanism of some sort but have not messed with it at 
this time.

Randy B

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NOPE!

I also mentioned I had one available if his was actually missing for
some reason

Marshall Booth wrote:
 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 Isnt that what I said days ago?

 YEP! But apparently somebody didn't hear!

 Marshall






Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q

2006-07-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

you just pump it, dont have to unscrew it.

R A Bennell wrote:


Thanks Kaleb, but it is there. A black plastic knob to the rear of the filter 
housing. Do I unscrew it or?? I
assume it is a plunger mechanism of some sort but have not messed with it at 
this time.

Randy B

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NOPE!

I also mentioned I had one available if his was actually missing for
some reason

Marshall Booth wrote:


Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


Isnt that what I said days ago?


YEP! But apparently somebody didn't hear!

Marshall






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Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q

2006-07-12 Thread Marshall Booth

R A Bennell wrote:

OK, I know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel filter in my 76 
300D. I have not done this before so
I am soliciting advice. I am advised that there is no primer pump on this 
model. Do I need to fill the canister
with fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long enough?


Whoever advised you that there was NO primer pump on this model is 
IGNORANT. Still, it's a good idea to fill the filter with CLEAN diesel.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q

2006-07-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If he doesnt have a primer pump, somebody took it off.  Its not on the 
IP like the other models.  The 5 cylinder has sell room so the primer is 
up right off the fuel filter housing.  The round thing with the black 
round button on top.  If you dont have one, I have one I can sell you.


Marshall Booth wrote:


R A Bennell wrote:


OK, I know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel filter in my 76 
300D. I have not done this before so
I am soliciting advice. I am advised that there is no primer pump on this 
model. Do I need to fill the canister
with fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long enough?



Whoever advised you that there was NO primer pump on this model is 
IGNORANT. Still, it's a good idea to fill the filter with CLEAN diesel.


Marshall


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 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,
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Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q

2006-07-12 Thread Curt Raymond
In my experience the reason its a good idea to fill the filter first is because 
it takes MANY pumps to fill the filter with the hand pump. The only time I ever 
did this on my 240D I forgot to fill the filter and paid for it in the number 
of pumps it took to fill it.
   
  My 190D doesn't have the hand pump, the one time I did a filter on that I was 
bright enough to fill the filter and like others I just kept my foot into the 
throttle when I started it up, it sputtered just for a second and ran fine.
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 19:58:20 -0400
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R A Bennell wrote:
 OK, I know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel filter 
in my 76 300D. I have not done this before so
 I am soliciting advice. I am advised that there is no primer pump on 
this model. Do I need to fill the canister
 with fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long enough?

Whoever advised you that there was NO primer pump on this model is 
IGNORANT. Still, it's a good idea to fill the filter with CLEAN diesel.

Marshall
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I put the new seal into the cap on the PS pump this morning. The old one was 
totally solid, its amazing it made any seal at all. The new one was much larger 
in diameter and very pliable rubber. It squeezes into the space and stays there 
nicely. I'm not 100% sure yet if it cured the leak, there was a little ATF on 
the hood but that could have been caught in the hood seal, I forgot to wipe it 
down this morning.
  The hoses looked good but the return line is real cheap from Rusty, I may 
order a meter and replace it just to see.
   
  -Curt
  '85 190D 
   
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Its fun isn't it? I got a little care package today too. 
Finally the seal for the leaking powersteering pump lid so no 
more ATF up the hood on my 190D. Of course now I need something else
that I didn't need when I made my last order... It never ends.

-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q

2006-07-12 Thread Rusty Cullens
I am the IGNORANT one. According to the Mercedes EPC the 617 070 05 01
injection pump uses a 001 091 99 01 fuel pump which DOES NOT contain a
primer pump. All the other 5 cylinder pumps use a 000 090 19 50 or 000
090 20 50 pump which DO carry primer pumps.

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Well, perhaps he misunderstood me. I tried to order a new one and was
told it did not exist?? Being a novice at
this sort of thing, I did not argue.

Randy B

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R A Bennell wrote:
 OK, I know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel filter
in my 76 300D. I have not done this before
so
 I am soliciting advice. I am advised that there is no primer pump on
this model. Do I need to fill the canister
 with fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long enough?

Whoever advised you that there was NO primer pump on this model is
IGNORANT. Still, it's a good idea to fill the filter with CLEAN diesel.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q

2006-07-12 Thread Rusty Cullens
Ok, we have the final answer now on a W115.114 primer pump. It has one.
It is NOT located on the injection pump but on the fuel filter housing.
Part # 000 090 11 90. It is VERY expensive and I was told never fails. I
apologize for my mistake but I knew that I have never sold one in 31
years of selling Mercedes parts. I hope this clears up the subject.

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Well, perhaps he misunderstood me. I tried to order a new one and was
told it did not exist?? Being a novice at
this sort of thing, I did not argue.

 




Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q

2006-07-12 Thread Marshall Booth

Rusty Cullens wrote:

I am the IGNORANT one. According to the Mercedes EPC the 617 070 05 01
injection pump uses a 001 091 99 01 fuel pump which DOES NOT contain a
primer pump. All the other 5 cylinder pumps use a 000 090 19 50 or 000
090 20 50 pump which DO carry primer pumps.


There is no manual primer pump located on the fuel pump of a 115.114 
300D. On that model, the hand pump is located next to the fuel filter - 
but there is a hand pump!


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Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q

2006-07-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The primer pump is NOT attatched to the IP in any way shape or form. 
See my other message.


Rusty Cullens wrote:


I am the IGNORANT one. According to the Mercedes EPC the 617 070 05 01
injection pump uses a 001 091 99 01 fuel pump which DOES NOT contain a
primer pump. All the other 5 cylinder pumps use a 000 090 19 50 or 000
090 20 50 pump which DO carry primer pumps.

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Well, perhaps he misunderstood me. I tried to order a new one and was
told it did not exist?? Being a novice at
this sort of thing, I did not argue.

Randy B

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R A Bennell wrote:


OK, I know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel filter


in my 76 300D. I have not done this before
so


I am soliciting advice. I am advised that there is no primer pump on


this model. Do I need to fill the canister


with fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long enough?



Whoever advised you that there was NO primer pump on this model is
IGNORANT. Still, it's a good idea to fill the filter with CLEAN diesel.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q

2006-07-12 Thread Marshall Booth

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Isnt that what I said days ago?


YEP! But apparently somebody didn't hear!

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[MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q

2006-07-11 Thread R A Bennell
OK, I know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel filter in my 76 
300D. I have not done this before so
I am soliciting advice. I am advised that there is no primer pump on this 
model. Do I need to fill the canister
with fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long enough?

Randy B




Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q

2006-07-11 Thread Levi Smith

Whether or not you have a primer pump, the answers should be yes and yes.

It should fill the filter on it's own, but you may have a dead battery
first, or just adding a lot of wear and tear on your starter and battery if
nothing else.
It's always a good idea to fill the filter before you put it on.  Personally
I use ATF to fill it.

Levi

On 7/11/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


OK, I know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel filter in
my 76 300D. I have not done this before so
I am soliciting advice. I am advised that there is no primer pump on this
model. Do I need to fill the canister
with fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long enough?

Randy B


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Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q

2006-07-11 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 7/11/2006 8:51:04 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

OK, I  know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel filter in my 
76 300D.  I have not done this before so
I am soliciting advice. I am advised that  there is no primer pump on this 
model. Do I need to fill the canister
with  fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long  enough?



Randy,
 
Definitely fill the filter, the less air left, the better.  You should  have 
a priming pump, do you not see a plastic knurled knob, down on the side of  
the injection pump?  It unscrews CCW, then the pump is operated by  
push/pulling 
the knob.  If you have ANY fuel leakage during this operation,  call Rusty, 
and replace the primer pump.
 
Regards,  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 262 K miles 
98 ML 320, 142 K  miles



Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q

2006-07-11 Thread R A Bennell
I guess that might be a good solution. I can certainly fill with diesel if 
doing this in my garage at home but I
was also wondering about what I should do in the event that I ever encounter 
problems on the road away from home. I
plan to carry spare filters with me and wondered if I needed to carry around a 
small can of diesel fuel. Having a
bottle of atf in the trunk wouldn't be a bad thing anyway. Any further comments 
on whether synthetic atf is ok to
run through the ip and engine in that manner is ok of if one should stick with 
more conventional atf?

Randy B

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To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q


Whether or not you have a primer pump, the answers should be yes and yes.

It should fill the filter on it's own, but you may have a dead battery
first, or just adding a lot of wear and tear on your starter and battery if
nothing else.
It's always a good idea to fill the filter before you put it on.  Personally
I use ATF to fill it.

Levi

On 7/11/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK, I know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel filter in
 my 76 300D. I have not done this before so
 I am soliciting advice. I am advised that there is no primer pump on this
 model. Do I need to fill the canister
 with fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long enough?

 Randy B






Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q

2006-07-11 Thread R A Bennell
Don't know. Will have to look. Was told there is not a primer pump on this 
older model but maybe he just meant it
was different than the newer models. It is a 76 300D so a 115 model. Can't 
recall off the top of my head what the
engine # is.

Randy B

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In a message dated 7/11/2006 8:51:04 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

OK, I  know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel filter in my
76 300D.  I have not done this before so
I am soliciting advice. I am advised that  there is no primer pump on this
model. Do I need to fill the canister
with  fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long  enough?



Randy,

Definitely fill the filter, the less air left, the better.  You should  have
a priming pump, do you not see a plastic knurled knob, down on the side of
the injection pump?  It unscrews CCW, then the pump is operated by  push/pulling
the knob.  If you have ANY fuel leakage during this operation,  call Rusty,
and replace the primer pump.

Regards,

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 262 K miles
98 ML 320, 142 K  miles





Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q

2006-07-11 Thread Levi Smith

Hmm, dunno.  I've never tried filling the filter with synthetic atf.  I'd
stick to normal simply for cost since you're just burning it anyway.  I have
heard that synthetic doesn't burn well, but I know I've had at least some
amount of synthetic motor oil in my fuel tank and it kept running, but at
100% if there was a problem with burning you'd find out...

Levi

On 7/11/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I guess that might be a good solution. I can certainly fill with diesel if
doing this in my garage at home but I
was also wondering about what I should do in the event that I ever
encounter problems on the road away from home. I
plan to carry spare filters with me and wondered if I needed to carry
around a small can of diesel fuel. Having a
bottle of atf in the trunk wouldn't be a bad thing anyway. Any further
comments on whether synthetic atf is ok to
run through the ip and engine in that manner is ok of if one should stick
with more conventional atf?

Randy B

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Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 11:01 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q


Whether or not you have a primer pump, the answers should be yes and yes.

It should fill the filter on it's own, but you may have a dead battery
first, or just adding a lot of wear and tear on your starter and battery
if
nothing else.
It's always a good idea to fill the filter before you put it
on.  Personally
I use ATF to fill it.

Levi

On 7/11/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK, I know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel filter in
 my 76 300D. I have not done this before so
 I am soliciting advice. I am advised that there is no primer pump on
this
 model. Do I need to fill the canister
 with fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long enough?

 Randy B




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Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q

2006-07-11 Thread Chuck Landenberger

Randy,

You may want to consider periodically using Diesel Purge to fill the  
new fuel filter.


Not as good as the suggested method, but works and less trouble.

Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Jul 11, 2006, at 9:44 AM, R A Bennell wrote:

I guess that might be a good solution. I can certainly fill with  
diesel if doing this in my garage at home but I
was also wondering about what I should do in the event that I ever  
encounter problems on the road away from home. I
plan to carry spare filters with me and wondered if I needed to  
carry around a small can of diesel fuel. Having a
bottle of atf in the trunk wouldn't be a bad thing anyway. Any  
further comments on whether synthetic atf is ok to
run through the ip and engine in that manner is ok of if one should  
stick with more conventional atf?


Randy B

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Whether or not you have a primer pump, the answers should be yes  
and yes.


It should fill the filter on it's own, but you may have a dead battery
first, or just adding a lot of wear and tear on your starter and  
battery if

nothing else.
It's always a good idea to fill the filter before you put it on.   
Personally

I use ATF to fill it.

Levi

On 7/11/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


OK, I know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel  
filter in

my 76 300D. I have not done this before so
I am soliciting advice. I am advised that there is no primer pump  
on this

model. Do I need to fill the canister
with fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long enough?

Randy B





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Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q

2006-07-11 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
I carry diesel Purge to fill the filter-on the road and at home. . 
Dwight

Dwight Giles, Jr
1979 240D auto, 250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t, 130K miles
Wickford, RI
Bissell Cove Quahog  Auto Salvage Co.


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q


Hmm, dunno.  I've never tried filling the filter with synthetic atf.
I'd stick to normal simply for cost since you're just burning it anyway.
I have heard that synthetic doesn't burn well, but I know I've had at
least some amount of synthetic motor oil in my fuel tank and it kept
running, but at 100% if there was a problem with burning you'd find
out...

Levi

On 7/11/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I guess that might be a good solution. I can certainly fill with 
 diesel if doing this in my garage at home but I was also wondering 
 about what I should do in the event that I ever encounter problems on 
 the road away from home. I plan to carry spare filters with me and 
 wondered if I needed to carry around a small can of diesel fuel. 
 Having a bottle of atf in the trunk wouldn't be a bad thing anyway. 
 Any further comments on whether synthetic atf is ok to
 run through the ip and engine in that manner is ok of if one should
stick
 with more conventional atf?

 Randy B

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 Whether or not you have a primer pump, the answers should be yes and 
 yes.

 It should fill the filter on it's own, but you may have a dead battery

 first, or just adding a lot of wear and tear on your starter and 
 battery if nothing else.
 It's always a good idea to fill the filter before you put it
 on.  Personally
 I use ATF to fill it.

 Levi

 On 7/11/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  OK, I know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel 
  filter in my 76 300D. I have not done this before so I am soliciting

  advice. I am advised that there is no primer pump on
 this
  model. Do I need to fill the canister
  with fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long enough?
 
  Randy B
 
 


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Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q

2006-07-11 Thread R A Bennell
I was thinking more in the line of carrying a quart of atf in the trunk and 
being able to use it for an emergency
change of filter as well as being able to use it for the transmission if needed 
so that one did not need to haul
around a bottle of fuel and of atf.

Randy B

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q


Hmm, dunno.  I've never tried filling the filter with synthetic atf.  I'd
stick to normal simply for cost since you're just burning it anyway.  I have
heard that synthetic doesn't burn well, but I know I've had at least some
amount of synthetic motor oil in my fuel tank and it kept running, but at
100% if there was a problem with burning you'd find out...

Levi

On 7/11/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I guess that might be a good solution. I can certainly fill with diesel if
 doing this in my garage at home but I
 was also wondering about what I should do in the event that I ever
 encounter problems on the road away from home. I
 plan to carry spare filters with me and wondered if I needed to carry
 around a small can of diesel fuel. Having a
 bottle of atf in the trunk wouldn't be a bad thing anyway. Any further
 comments on whether synthetic atf is ok to
 run through the ip and engine in that manner is ok of if one should stick
 with more conventional atf?

 Randy B

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Levi Smith
 Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 11:01 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q


 Whether or not you have a primer pump, the answers should be yes and yes.

 It should fill the filter on it's own, but you may have a dead battery
 first, or just adding a lot of wear and tear on your starter and battery
 if
 nothing else.
 It's always a good idea to fill the filter before you put it
 on.  Personally
 I use ATF to fill it.

 Levi

 On 7/11/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  OK, I know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel filter in
  my 76 300D. I have not done this before so
  I am soliciting advice. I am advised that there is no primer pump on
 this
  model. Do I need to fill the canister
  with fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long enough?
 
  Randy B
 
 


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Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q

2006-07-11 Thread Mitch Haley
R A Bennell wrote:
 
 I was thinking more in the line of carrying a quart of atf in the trunk and 
 being able to use it for an
 emergency change of filter as well as being able to use it for the 
 transmission if needed 

I'd carry cheap stuff, synthetic oil doesn't burn well if you put it in the 
fuel filter. 
Could probably stretch your range by 3-5 miles if you run out of fuel too. 
I wouldn't carry diesel long-term unless it was in a well-sealed container, like
an aluminum camping fuel bottle.



Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q

2006-07-11 Thread Peter Frederick
The primer pump is there to prime the filter, but it won't hurt to fill 
the canister, either.


It takes a long time with that tiny pump -- and if it is the old slyle, 
it is likely to start leaking when you operate it from dead rubber or 
leather parts.  Replace with the thumb style (sealed) as soon as 
possible, they are inexpensive.


Change the filter with the engine hot, it starts easire.

Cranking will run the battery flat at  least once, before it starts, 
don't do that.


Peter
On Jul 11, 2006, at 10:55 AM, R A Bennell wrote:

OK, I know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel filter 
in my 76 300D. I have not done this before so
I am soliciting advice. I am advised that there is no primer pump on 
this model. Do I need to fill the canister

with fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long enough?

Randy B


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