Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q
NOPE! I also mentioned I had one available if his was actually missing for some reason Marshall Booth wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Isnt that what I said days ago? YEP! But apparently somebody didn't hear! Marshall
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Thanks Kaleb, but it is there. A black plastic knob to the rear of the filter housing. Do I unscrew it or?? I assume it is a plunger mechanism of some sort but have not messed with it at this time. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 6:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q NOPE! I also mentioned I had one available if his was actually missing for some reason Marshall Booth wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Isnt that what I said days ago? YEP! But apparently somebody didn't hear! Marshall
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you just pump it, dont have to unscrew it. R A Bennell wrote: Thanks Kaleb, but it is there. A black plastic knob to the rear of the filter housing. Do I unscrew it or?? I assume it is a plunger mechanism of some sort but have not messed with it at this time. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 6:15 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q NOPE! I also mentioned I had one available if his was actually missing for some reason Marshall Booth wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Isnt that what I said days ago? YEP! But apparently somebody didn't hear! Marshall ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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R A Bennell wrote: OK, I know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel filter in my 76 300D. I have not done this before so I am soliciting advice. I am advised that there is no primer pump on this model. Do I need to fill the canister with fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long enough? Whoever advised you that there was NO primer pump on this model is IGNORANT. Still, it's a good idea to fill the filter with CLEAN diesel. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
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If he doesnt have a primer pump, somebody took it off. Its not on the IP like the other models. The 5 cylinder has sell room so the primer is up right off the fuel filter housing. The round thing with the black round button on top. If you dont have one, I have one I can sell you. Marshall Booth wrote: R A Bennell wrote: OK, I know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel filter in my 76 300D. I have not done this before so I am soliciting advice. I am advised that there is no primer pump on this model. Do I need to fill the canister with fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long enough? Whoever advised you that there was NO primer pump on this model is IGNORANT. Still, it's a good idea to fill the filter with CLEAN diesel. Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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In my experience the reason its a good idea to fill the filter first is because it takes MANY pumps to fill the filter with the hand pump. The only time I ever did this on my 240D I forgot to fill the filter and paid for it in the number of pumps it took to fill it. My 190D doesn't have the hand pump, the one time I did a filter on that I was bright enough to fill the filter and like others I just kept my foot into the throttle when I started it up, it sputtered just for a second and ran fine. -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 19:58:20 -0400 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed R A Bennell wrote: OK, I know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel filter in my 76 300D. I have not done this before so I am soliciting advice. I am advised that there is no primer pump on this model. Do I need to fill the canister with fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long enough? Whoever advised you that there was NO primer pump on this model is IGNORANT. Still, it's a good idea to fill the filter with CLEAN diesel. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired) - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jul 12 15:40:20 2006 Received: from web32811.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.41]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G0gp2-0004Ai-1O for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 15:40:20 + Received: (qmail 97708 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Jul 2006 15:40:09 - Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32811.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 08:40:09 PDT Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 08:40:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.7.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just like Christmas!! X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 15:40:20 - I put the new seal into the cap on the PS pump this morning. The old one was totally solid, its amazing it made any seal at all. The new one was much larger in diameter and very pliable rubber. It squeezes into the space and stays there nicely. I'm not 100% sure yet if it cured the leak, there was a little ATF on the hood but that could have been caught in the hood seal, I forgot to wipe it down this morning. The hoses looked good but the return line is real cheap from Rusty, I may order a meter and replace it just to see. -Curt '85 190D Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 17:22:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just like Christmas!! To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Its fun isn't it? I got a little care package today too. Finally the seal for the leaking powersteering pump lid so no more ATF up the hood on my 190D. Of course now I need something else that I didn't need when I made my last order... It never ends. -Curt '85 190D Dory 242kmi - Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jul 12 15:46:15 2006 Received: from web32805.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.35]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G0guk-0004iQ-Rw for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 15:46:15 + Received: (qmail 14579 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Jul 2006 15:46:06 - Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32805.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Jul 2006 08:46:06 PDT Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 08:46:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain
Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q
I am the IGNORANT one. According to the Mercedes EPC the 617 070 05 01 injection pump uses a 001 091 99 01 fuel pump which DOES NOT contain a primer pump. All the other 5 cylinder pumps use a 000 090 19 50 or 000 090 20 50 pump which DO carry primer pumps. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q Well, perhaps he misunderstood me. I tried to order a new one and was told it did not exist?? Being a novice at this sort of thing, I did not argue. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q R A Bennell wrote: OK, I know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel filter in my 76 300D. I have not done this before so I am soliciting advice. I am advised that there is no primer pump on this model. Do I need to fill the canister with fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long enough? Whoever advised you that there was NO primer pump on this model is IGNORANT. Still, it's a good idea to fill the filter with CLEAN diesel. Marshall -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Ok, we have the final answer now on a W115.114 primer pump. It has one. It is NOT located on the injection pump but on the fuel filter housing. Part # 000 090 11 90. It is VERY expensive and I was told never fails. I apologize for my mistake but I knew that I have never sold one in 31 years of selling Mercedes parts. I hope this clears up the subject. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q Well, perhaps he misunderstood me. I tried to order a new one and was told it did not exist?? Being a novice at this sort of thing, I did not argue.
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Rusty Cullens wrote: I am the IGNORANT one. According to the Mercedes EPC the 617 070 05 01 injection pump uses a 001 091 99 01 fuel pump which DOES NOT contain a primer pump. All the other 5 cylinder pumps use a 000 090 19 50 or 000 090 20 50 pump which DO carry primer pumps. There is no manual primer pump located on the fuel pump of a 115.114 300D. On that model, the hand pump is located next to the fuel filter - but there is a hand pump! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
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The primer pump is NOT attatched to the IP in any way shape or form. See my other message. Rusty Cullens wrote: I am the IGNORANT one. According to the Mercedes EPC the 617 070 05 01 injection pump uses a 001 091 99 01 fuel pump which DOES NOT contain a primer pump. All the other 5 cylinder pumps use a 000 090 19 50 or 000 090 20 50 pump which DO carry primer pumps. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q Well, perhaps he misunderstood me. I tried to order a new one and was told it did not exist?? Being a novice at this sort of thing, I did not argue. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q R A Bennell wrote: OK, I know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel filter in my 76 300D. I have not done this before so I am soliciting advice. I am advised that there is no primer pump on this model. Do I need to fill the canister with fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long enough? Whoever advised you that there was NO primer pump on this model is IGNORANT. Still, it's a good idea to fill the filter with CLEAN diesel. Marshall -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Isnt that what I said days ago? YEP! But apparently somebody didn't hear! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired)
[MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q
OK, I know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel filter in my 76 300D. I have not done this before so I am soliciting advice. I am advised that there is no primer pump on this model. Do I need to fill the canister with fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long enough? Randy B
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Whether or not you have a primer pump, the answers should be yes and yes. It should fill the filter on it's own, but you may have a dead battery first, or just adding a lot of wear and tear on your starter and battery if nothing else. It's always a good idea to fill the filter before you put it on. Personally I use ATF to fill it. Levi On 7/11/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel filter in my 76 300D. I have not done this before so I am soliciting advice. I am advised that there is no primer pump on this model. Do I need to fill the canister with fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long enough? Randy B ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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In a message dated 7/11/2006 8:51:04 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK, I know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel filter in my 76 300D. I have not done this before so I am soliciting advice. I am advised that there is no primer pump on this model. Do I need to fill the canister with fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long enough? Randy, Definitely fill the filter, the less air left, the better. You should have a priming pump, do you not see a plastic knurled knob, down on the side of the injection pump? It unscrews CCW, then the pump is operated by push/pulling the knob. If you have ANY fuel leakage during this operation, call Rusty, and replace the primer pump. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 142 K miles
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I guess that might be a good solution. I can certainly fill with diesel if doing this in my garage at home but I was also wondering about what I should do in the event that I ever encounter problems on the road away from home. I plan to carry spare filters with me and wondered if I needed to carry around a small can of diesel fuel. Having a bottle of atf in the trunk wouldn't be a bad thing anyway. Any further comments on whether synthetic atf is ok to run through the ip and engine in that manner is ok of if one should stick with more conventional atf? Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 11:01 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q Whether or not you have a primer pump, the answers should be yes and yes. It should fill the filter on it's own, but you may have a dead battery first, or just adding a lot of wear and tear on your starter and battery if nothing else. It's always a good idea to fill the filter before you put it on. Personally I use ATF to fill it. Levi On 7/11/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel filter in my 76 300D. I have not done this before so I am soliciting advice. I am advised that there is no primer pump on this model. Do I need to fill the canister with fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long enough? Randy B
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Don't know. Will have to look. Was told there is not a primer pump on this older model but maybe he just meant it was different than the newer models. It is a 76 300D so a 115 model. Can't recall off the top of my head what the engine # is. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 11:31 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q In a message dated 7/11/2006 8:51:04 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK, I know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel filter in my 76 300D. I have not done this before so I am soliciting advice. I am advised that there is no primer pump on this model. Do I need to fill the canister with fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long enough? Randy, Definitely fill the filter, the less air left, the better. You should have a priming pump, do you not see a plastic knurled knob, down on the side of the injection pump? It unscrews CCW, then the pump is operated by push/pulling the knob. If you have ANY fuel leakage during this operation, call Rusty, and replace the primer pump. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 142 K miles
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Hmm, dunno. I've never tried filling the filter with synthetic atf. I'd stick to normal simply for cost since you're just burning it anyway. I have heard that synthetic doesn't burn well, but I know I've had at least some amount of synthetic motor oil in my fuel tank and it kept running, but at 100% if there was a problem with burning you'd find out... Levi On 7/11/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess that might be a good solution. I can certainly fill with diesel if doing this in my garage at home but I was also wondering about what I should do in the event that I ever encounter problems on the road away from home. I plan to carry spare filters with me and wondered if I needed to carry around a small can of diesel fuel. Having a bottle of atf in the trunk wouldn't be a bad thing anyway. Any further comments on whether synthetic atf is ok to run through the ip and engine in that manner is ok of if one should stick with more conventional atf? Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 11:01 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q Whether or not you have a primer pump, the answers should be yes and yes. It should fill the filter on it's own, but you may have a dead battery first, or just adding a lot of wear and tear on your starter and battery if nothing else. It's always a good idea to fill the filter before you put it on. Personally I use ATF to fill it. Levi On 7/11/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel filter in my 76 300D. I have not done this before so I am soliciting advice. I am advised that there is no primer pump on this model. Do I need to fill the canister with fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long enough? Randy B ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Randy, You may want to consider periodically using Diesel Purge to fill the new fuel filter. Not as good as the suggested method, but works and less trouble. Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Jul 11, 2006, at 9:44 AM, R A Bennell wrote: I guess that might be a good solution. I can certainly fill with diesel if doing this in my garage at home but I was also wondering about what I should do in the event that I ever encounter problems on the road away from home. I plan to carry spare filters with me and wondered if I needed to carry around a small can of diesel fuel. Having a bottle of atf in the trunk wouldn't be a bad thing anyway. Any further comments on whether synthetic atf is ok to run through the ip and engine in that manner is ok of if one should stick with more conventional atf? Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 11:01 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q Whether or not you have a primer pump, the answers should be yes and yes. It should fill the filter on it's own, but you may have a dead battery first, or just adding a lot of wear and tear on your starter and battery if nothing else. It's always a good idea to fill the filter before you put it on. Personally I use ATF to fill it. Levi On 7/11/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel filter in my 76 300D. I have not done this before so I am soliciting advice. I am advised that there is no primer pump on this model. Do I need to fill the canister with fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long enough? Randy B ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I carry diesel Purge to fill the filter-on the road and at home. . Dwight Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 130K miles Wickford, RI Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 12:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q Hmm, dunno. I've never tried filling the filter with synthetic atf. I'd stick to normal simply for cost since you're just burning it anyway. I have heard that synthetic doesn't burn well, but I know I've had at least some amount of synthetic motor oil in my fuel tank and it kept running, but at 100% if there was a problem with burning you'd find out... Levi On 7/11/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess that might be a good solution. I can certainly fill with diesel if doing this in my garage at home but I was also wondering about what I should do in the event that I ever encounter problems on the road away from home. I plan to carry spare filters with me and wondered if I needed to carry around a small can of diesel fuel. Having a bottle of atf in the trunk wouldn't be a bad thing anyway. Any further comments on whether synthetic atf is ok to run through the ip and engine in that manner is ok of if one should stick with more conventional atf? Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 11:01 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q Whether or not you have a primer pump, the answers should be yes and yes. It should fill the filter on it's own, but you may have a dead battery first, or just adding a lot of wear and tear on your starter and battery if nothing else. It's always a good idea to fill the filter before you put it on. Personally I use ATF to fill it. Levi On 7/11/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel filter in my 76 300D. I have not done this before so I am soliciting advice. I am advised that there is no primer pump on this model. Do I need to fill the canister with fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long enough? Randy B ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I was thinking more in the line of carrying a quart of atf in the trunk and being able to use it for an emergency change of filter as well as being able to use it for the transmission if needed so that one did not need to haul around a bottle of fuel and of atf. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 11:45 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q Hmm, dunno. I've never tried filling the filter with synthetic atf. I'd stick to normal simply for cost since you're just burning it anyway. I have heard that synthetic doesn't burn well, but I know I've had at least some amount of synthetic motor oil in my fuel tank and it kept running, but at 100% if there was a problem with burning you'd find out... Levi On 7/11/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess that might be a good solution. I can certainly fill with diesel if doing this in my garage at home but I was also wondering about what I should do in the event that I ever encounter problems on the road away from home. I plan to carry spare filters with me and wondered if I needed to carry around a small can of diesel fuel. Having a bottle of atf in the trunk wouldn't be a bad thing anyway. Any further comments on whether synthetic atf is ok to run through the ip and engine in that manner is ok of if one should stick with more conventional atf? Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 11:01 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q Whether or not you have a primer pump, the answers should be yes and yes. It should fill the filter on it's own, but you may have a dead battery first, or just adding a lot of wear and tear on your starter and battery if nothing else. It's always a good idea to fill the filter before you put it on. Personally I use ATF to fill it. Levi On 7/11/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel filter in my 76 300D. I have not done this before so I am soliciting advice. I am advised that there is no primer pump on this model. Do I need to fill the canister with fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long enough? Randy B ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q
R A Bennell wrote: I was thinking more in the line of carrying a quart of atf in the trunk and being able to use it for an emergency change of filter as well as being able to use it for the transmission if needed I'd carry cheap stuff, synthetic oil doesn't burn well if you put it in the fuel filter. Could probably stretch your range by 3-5 miles if you run out of fuel too. I wouldn't carry diesel long-term unless it was in a well-sealed container, like an aluminum camping fuel bottle.
Re: [MBZ] Changing out the Fuel Filter Q
The primer pump is there to prime the filter, but it won't hurt to fill the canister, either. It takes a long time with that tiny pump -- and if it is the old slyle, it is likely to start leaking when you operate it from dead rubber or leather parts. Replace with the thumb style (sealed) as soon as possible, they are inexpensive. Change the filter with the engine hot, it starts easire. Cranking will run the battery flat at least once, before it starts, don't do that. Peter On Jul 11, 2006, at 10:55 AM, R A Bennell wrote: OK, I know this is pretty basic, but I plan to change the fuel filter in my 76 300D. I have not done this before so I am soliciting advice. I am advised that there is no primer pump on this model. Do I need to fill the canister with fuel or will it prime itself if I crank it long enough? Randy B ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com