Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery
There is no Shoo Goo in the Frankenheap's body. There is a _lot_ of welding wire, and various bits and scraps of sheet metal. Most of which is shot again. Farging bastiges and their salt, may they rot in hell. The Frankenheap: entertaining you, and hauling my ass around in winter, since 2004. Full story: http://formicapeak.com/~jimc/frankenheap.html -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery
I take that as a compliment - thanks! On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:55 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > If that's the car that's being held together by Shoe Goo, all that welding > might weaken it enough such that it collapses next time he gets it out on > the road. He shoulda used my multi-layer aluminum valley pop rivet floor > pan system and bedded it in with Shoe Goo. > ~ > > With a title like "Frankenheapery" I would guess the Frankenheap. One of > the last 115s on the list. > > -Curt > > > > From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> > > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 2:33 PM > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery > > > > Which car? > > > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 11:21 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > I decided WTH, and ordered a $60 (free shipping) rocker panel for the > > > mostly-missing passenger side. I was going to order the $90 floor pan > that > > > Eckler had, but I missed the sale. When I called today I was able to > beat > > > them down to about $100, but I hadn't figured on the shipping charge: > > > $260! No sale, he wasn't surprised. I ordered the $121 pan from the > same > > > source as the rocker, shipping also claimed to be free. I guess we'll > > > see. It can't be soon enough for me, I took another floor shower today > > > driving home. Heavy rains and heavy snow melt is making for some > pretty > > > substantial, and surprising, puddles. > > > > > > This is an experiment, if it works out maybe I'll do the other side > next > > > year. > > > > > > -- Jim > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > -- > arche...@embarqmail.com <arche...@embarqmail.com> > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery
If that's the car that's being held together by Shoe Goo, all that welding might weaken it enough such that it collapses next time he gets it out on the road. He shoulda used my multi-layer aluminum valley pop rivet floor pan system and bedded it in with Shoe Goo. ~ > With a title like "Frankenheapery" I would guess the Frankenheap. One of the > last 115s on the list. > -Curt > > From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 2:33 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery > > Which car? > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 11:21 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > I decided WTH, and ordered a $60 (free shipping) rocker panel for the > > mostly-missing passenger side. I was going to order the $90 floor pan that > > Eckler had, but I missed the sale. When I called today I was able to beat > > them down to about $100, but I hadn't figured on the shipping charge: > > $260! No sale, he wasn't surprised. I ordered the $121 pan from the same > > source as the rocker, shipping also claimed to be free. I guess we'll > > see. It can't be soon enough for me, I took another floor shower today > > driving home. Heavy rains and heavy snow melt is making for some pretty > > substantial, and surprising, puddles. > > > > This is an experiment, if it works out maybe I'll do the other side next > > year. > > > > -- Jim > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- arche...@embarqmail.com <arche...@embarqmail.com> --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery
He must be a liberal Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 17, 2017, at 5:05 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Sometimes I worry about Andrew, he can't seem to ever remember anything and > often asks the same questions repeatedly. > -Curt > > From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Randy Bennell <rbenn...@bennell.ca> > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 5:01 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery > > Let me guess - you only sporadically read the posts on here? > > RB > >> On 17/02/2017 1:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: >> Which car? >> >> On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 11:21 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> I decided WTH, and ordered a $60 (free shipping) rocker panel for the >>> mostly-missing passenger side. I was going to order the $90 floor pan that >>> Eckler had, but I missed the sale. When I called today I was able to beat >>> them down to about $100, but I hadn't figured on the shipping charge: >>> $260! No sale, he wasn't surprised. I ordered the $121 pan from the same >>> source as the rocker, shipping also claimed to be free. I guess we'll >>> see. It can't be soon enough for me, I took another floor shower today >>> driving home. Heavy rains and heavy snow melt is making for some pretty >>> substantial, and surprising, puddles. >>> >>> This is an experiment, if it works out maybe I'll do the other side next >>> year. >>> >>> -- Jim >>> ___ > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery
Sometimes I worry about Andrew, he can't seem to ever remember anything and often asks the same questions repeatedly. -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Randy Bennell <rbenn...@bennell.ca> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery Let me guess - you only sporadically read the posts on here? RB On 17/02/2017 1:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > Which car? > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 11:21 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> I decided WTH, and ordered a $60 (free shipping) rocker panel for the >> mostly-missing passenger side. I was going to order the $90 floor pan that >> Eckler had, but I missed the sale. When I called today I was able to beat >> them down to about $100, but I hadn't figured on the shipping charge: >> $260! No sale, he wasn't surprised. I ordered the $121 pan from the same >> source as the rocker, shipping also claimed to be free. I guess we'll >> see. It can't be soon enough for me, I took another floor shower today >> driving home. Heavy rains and heavy snow melt is making for some pretty >> substantial, and surprising, puddles. >> >> This is an experiment, if it works out maybe I'll do the other side next >> year. >> >> -- Jim >> ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery
Let me guess - you only sporadically read the posts on here? RB On 17/02/2017 1:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Which car? On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 11:21 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I decided WTH, and ordered a $60 (free shipping) rocker panel for the mostly-missing passenger side. I was going to order the $90 floor pan that Eckler had, but I missed the sale. When I called today I was able to beat them down to about $100, but I hadn't figured on the shipping charge: $260! No sale, he wasn't surprised. I ordered the $121 pan from the same source as the rocker, shipping also claimed to be free. I guess we'll see. It can't be soon enough for me, I took another floor shower today driving home. Heavy rains and heavy snow melt is making for some pretty substantial, and surprising, puddles. This is an experiment, if it works out maybe I'll do the other side next year. -- Jim ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery
With a title like "Frankenheapery" I would guess the Frankenheap. One of the last 115s on the list. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery Which car? On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 11:21 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I decided WTH, and ordered a $60 (free shipping) rocker panel for the > mostly-missing passenger side. I was going to order the $90 floor pan that > Eckler had, but I missed the sale. When I called today I was able to beat > them down to about $100, but I hadn't figured on the shipping charge: > $260! No sale, he wasn't surprised. I ordered the $121 pan from the same > source as the rocker, shipping also claimed to be free. I guess we'll > see. It can't be soon enough for me, I took another floor shower today > driving home. Heavy rains and heavy snow melt is making for some pretty > substantial, and surprising, puddles. > > This is an experiment, if it works out maybe I'll do the other side next > year. > > -- Jim > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery
Which car? On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 11:21 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I decided WTH, and ordered a $60 (free shipping) rocker panel for the > mostly-missing passenger side. I was going to order the $90 floor pan that > Eckler had, but I missed the sale. When I called today I was able to beat > them down to about $100, but I hadn't figured on the shipping charge: > $260! No sale, he wasn't surprised. I ordered the $121 pan from the same > source as the rocker, shipping also claimed to be free. I guess we'll > see. It can't be soon enough for me, I took another floor shower today > driving home. Heavy rains and heavy snow melt is making for some pretty > substantial, and surprising, puddles. > > This is an experiment, if it works out maybe I'll do the other side next > year. > > -- Jim > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery
I decided WTH, and ordered a $60 (free shipping) rocker panel for the mostly-missing passenger side. I was going to order the $90 floor pan that Eckler had, but I missed the sale. When I called today I was able to beat them down to about $100, but I hadn't figured on the shipping charge: $260! No sale, he wasn't surprised. I ordered the $121 pan from the same source as the rocker, shipping also claimed to be free. I guess we'll see. It can't be soon enough for me, I took another floor shower today driving home. Heavy rains and heavy snow melt is making for some pretty substantial, and surprising, puddles. This is an experiment, if it works out maybe I'll do the other side next year. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery
A cheap HF angle grinder with a thin cut-off disk does amazingly well. It doesn't do curves, but then straight lines are easier for me to weld anyway. On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Have never used one [plasma cutter], but watching videos of others using > them makes me think that would sure be the way to cleanly cut out the old > metal. > > Oxyacetylene torch cuts pretty well, too. First welder I bought, it's just > so handy for so many things. > > -- Jim > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery
Have never used one [plasma cutter], but watching videos of others using them makes me think that would sure be the way to cleanly cut out the old metal. Oxyacetylene torch cuts pretty well, too. First welder I bought, it's just so handy for so many things. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery
On 15/02/2017 11:58 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: This is structural, it should be old road signs... -Curt No, if it is structural, then you need parts of old bridges. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery
Theres a specific name for the alloy they use. The LARP (live action roleplaying) (or was it the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism?)) guys have a saying "Thou shalt not harvest the king's metal trees." ie. don't use road signs for shields... -Curt From: Floyd Thursby <buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com> To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery Those are mostly aluminium now though, unless you can find some really old ones in a dump somewhere --FT On 2/15/17 12:58 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: This is structural, it should be old road signs... -Curt From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Floyd Thursby <buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery Are there no old microwaves, refrigerators or washers lying around on the side of the road anywhere? --FT On 2/15/17 2:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > The muffler fell off last week, and this weekend I got it welded back on. > It broke loose from the front, otherwise the parts left in the intersection > were pretty solid. I had to break it in half to put it in the trunk, but > it seemed to go back together OK. > > While I was under there the appalling state of the floor pans became > self-evident. New floor pans are on sale at Eckler, I'm wondering just how > hard they are to weld in. Might buy me a couple of more years on the poor > thing, if it worked. I'm still well ahead on the financial front for this > car, the budget would support some pans and a tank of gas and a spool of > wire, and a couple of cutoff wheels. > > -- Jim > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- --FT Winston Churchill: “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.” ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT Winston Churchill: “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.” ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery
Those are mostly aluminium now though, unless you can find some really old ones in a dump somewhere --FT On 2/15/17 12:58 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: This is structural, it should be old road signs... -Curt *From:* Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> *To:* mercedes@okiebenz.com *Cc:* Floyd Thursby <buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2017 8:37 AM *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery Are there no old microwaves, refrigerators or washers lying around on the side of the road anywhere? --FT On 2/15/17 2:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > The muffler fell off last week, and this weekend I got it welded back on. > It broke loose from the front, otherwise the parts left in the intersection > were pretty solid. I had to break it in half to put it in the trunk, but > it seemed to go back together OK. > > While I was under there the appalling state of the floor pans became > self-evident. New floor pans are on sale at Eckler, I'm wondering just how > hard they are to weld in. Might buy me a couple of more years on the poor > thing, if it worked. I'm still well ahead on the financial front for this > car, the budget would support some pans and a tank of gas and a spool of > wire, and a couple of cutoff wheels. > > -- Jim > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com <http://www.okiebenz.com/> > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- --FT Winston Churchill: “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.” ___ http://www.okiebenz.com <http://www.okiebenz.com/> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT Winston Churchill: “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.” ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery
This is structural, it should be old road signs... -Curt From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Floyd Thursby <buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery Are there no old microwaves, refrigerators or washers lying around on the side of the road anywhere? --FT On 2/15/17 2:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > The muffler fell off last week, and this weekend I got it welded back on. > It broke loose from the front, otherwise the parts left in the intersection > were pretty solid. I had to break it in half to put it in the trunk, but > it seemed to go back together OK. > > While I was under there the appalling state of the floor pans became > self-evident. New floor pans are on sale at Eckler, I'm wondering just how > hard they are to weld in. Might buy me a couple of more years on the poor > thing, if it worked. I'm still well ahead on the financial front for this > car, the budget would support some pans and a tank of gas and a spool of > wire, and a couple of cutoff wheels. > > -- Jim > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- --FT Winston Churchill: “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.” ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I do not have one (yet) but I sure do want one. RB On 15/02/2017 10:28 AM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote: Plasma cutters make it way too easy to do an amazing DIY job... I love those things! Kyle On Feb 15, 2017 11:24 AM, "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Might the budget stretch to a plasma cutter? No! -- Jim ___ Have never used one, but watching videos of others using them makes me think that would sure be the way to cleanly cut out the old metal. RB ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Plasma cutters make it way too easy to do an amazing DIY job... I love those things! Kyle On Feb 15, 2017 11:24 AM, "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Might the budget stretch to a plasma cutter? >>> >>> No! >> >> -- Jim >> ___ >> >> Have never used one, but watching videos of others using them makes me > think that would sure be the way to cleanly cut out the old metal. > > RB > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Might the budget stretch to a plasma cutter? No! -- Jim ___ Have never used one, but watching videos of others using them makes me think that would sure be the way to cleanly cut out the old metal. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> > Old microwaves... BTDT. Want to try something new. How is the structure that you would weld them to? > Meh. Thought it might be worth a shot. > Might the budget stretch to a plasma cutter? > No! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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How is the structure that you would weld them to? Might the budget stretch to a plasma cutter? Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: Jim Cathey via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2017-02-15 1:38 AM (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Jim Cathey <jim.cathey...@gmail.com> Subject: [MBZ] Frankenheapery The muffler fell off last week, and this weekend I got it welded back on. It broke loose from the front, otherwise the parts left in the intersection were pretty solid. I had to break it in half to put it in the trunk, but it seemed to go back together OK. While I was under there the appalling state of the floor pans became self-evident. New floor pans are on sale at Eckler, I'm wondering just how hard they are to weld in. Might buy me a couple of more years on the poor thing, if it worked. I'm still well ahead on the financial front for this car, the budget would support some pans and a tank of gas and a spool of wire, and a couple of cutoff wheels. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If you have solid metal to weld them to and the time and inclination then why not. Should be possible to do it from the top. Weld small spots every couple of inches and use a lot of undercoating from the bottom to seal it. Don't really know how hard it is though. Manfred Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: The muffler fell off last week, and this weekend I got it welded back on. It broke loose from the front, otherwise the parts left in the intersection were pretty solid. I had to break it in half to put it in the trunk, but it seemed to go back together OK. While I was under there the appalling state of the floor pans became self-evident. New floor pans are on sale at Eckler, I'm wondering just how hard they are to weld in. Might buy me a couple of more years on the poor thing, if it worked. I'm still well ahead on the financial front for this car, the budget would support some pans and a tank of gas and a spool of wire, and a couple of cutoff wheels. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Are there no old microwaves, refrigerators or washers lying around on the side of the road anywhere? --FT On 2/15/17 2:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: The muffler fell off last week, and this weekend I got it welded back on. It broke loose from the front, otherwise the parts left in the intersection were pretty solid. I had to break it in half to put it in the trunk, but it seemed to go back together OK. While I was under there the appalling state of the floor pans became self-evident. New floor pans are on sale at Eckler, I'm wondering just how hard they are to weld in. Might buy me a couple of more years on the poor thing, if it worked. I'm still well ahead on the financial front for this car, the budget would support some pans and a tank of gas and a spool of wire, and a couple of cutoff wheels. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT Winston Churchill: “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.” ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The muffler fell off last week, and this weekend I got it welded back on. It broke loose from the front, otherwise the parts left in the intersection were pretty solid. I had to break it in half to put it in the trunk, but it seemed to go back together OK. While I was under there the appalling state of the floor pans became self-evident. New floor pans are on sale at Eckler, I'm wondering just how hard they are to weld in. Might buy me a couple of more years on the poor thing, if it worked. I'm still well ahead on the financial front for this car, the budget would support some pans and a tank of gas and a spool of wire, and a couple of cutoff wheels. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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BUT, that was when it was new. Frankenheap sort of suggests it might not quite put out what the factory designed it to do, at this stage in its life. Randy On 24/11/2010 8:50 PM, Dieselhead wrote: the OM621 200D was 60 HP. Yours should be 60 or 65 I was thinking the OM615 220 D was 65 or 70 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You made my day Jim, I got up to 64* this morning, upset a little because of the chill and read your piece. I feel good now and can face the 80s later in the day without a pity party, even though I'll have to dig out a sweater. Thanks Harry Date night! We had a houseguest, so he stayed home to watch Daniel while Jill and I went to band practice. The weather was bad, and predicted to be so, and rehearsal (which was sadly necessary!) was cut short. We made it almost all the way home, but we ran into blizzard conditions and drifting on one road I should have been savvy enough to avoid. (I had gotten stuck there once before and there was a marginally better alternate route.) We were going OK even though visibility was terrible, paffing through a few drifts high enough to wash over the hood like waves, when we ran afoul of cars stalled at a stop sign at a bit of an uphill at the juncture to our road, and were forced to ourselves stop...and join the party. The car kept us warm, and the heater fan was working well on high, but the high snow-filled winds and low temperatures took their toll in spite of the covered radiator, and the engine temperature slowly dropped. After an hour and a half or so, punctuated with other arrivals most of whom could get away again, the county plow came by and pulled us and the others out. In the meantime our own road had become impassible, and we were so cold and disheartened (we'd both gotten out and pushed a lot, both our own car and others) that we headed the other way, with the wind, rather than wait to get snowed in again or bashed into, and took refuge for the night with nearby friends. By then it had gotten so cold and windy that the windshield was more or less permanently iced up and I had to drive with my head out the opened door. That added to the fun, and resulted in a rather snowy interior. And there were still drifts to deal with that way, too. But we got through and parked out on the street. In the morning the interior of the car was frozen solid, and I couldn't even begin to start it. I had the space heater, though, and I borrowed a long extension cord and a current bush and let 'er rip for an hour or so. That got the starter knob unthawed enough to start the car, whereupon we went home. That trip, in the light and with no wind, was uneventful. Most of the drifts had by then been plowed back some. The car actually acquitted itself pretty well, we were asking a bit too much from it. The now-ancient Hakkapeliitta 1 snow tires still worked well. Had I only gone the other way it would merely have been a bit of a hairy trip. As it was, it was an Event. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Any permenent damage to the interior? Who could tell! :-) No, I don't think there's any damage, though I might have broken off the starter knob had I tried brute force instead of the space heater. Those are NLA. Didn't anyone else notice the miracle hidden in there? A 115 heater fan that worked well in emergency conditions? We would have been pretty screwed had that failed on us. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yes, I caught that, just didn't respond. And having the heater aboard proved to be a real benefit in addition to the working heater fan. Glad y'all survived the ordeal. I was suffering through 79-80 degree weather. It is tough, but somebody has to do it. Today will only be 74, but tomorrow is predicted for 80. Any permenent damage to the interior? Who could tell! :-) No, I don't think there's any damage, though I might have broken off the starter knob had I tried brute force instead of the space heater. Those are NLA. Didn't anyone else notice the miracle hidden in there? A 115 heater fan that worked well in emergency conditions? We would have been pretty screwed had that failed on us. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I noticed. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery Any permenent damage to the interior? Who could tell! :-) No, I don't think there's any damage, though I might have broken off the starter knob had I tried brute force instead of the space heater. Those are NLA. Didn't anyone else notice the miracle hidden in there? A 115 heater fan that worked well in emergency conditions? We would have been pretty screwed had that failed on us. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You should take up story writing, that was a very good story there. Add a bit more drama (As the fully-loaded log truck came sliding around the curve, with the trailer trying to overtake the tractor, the fear in my wife's eyes was absent, as she was texting on her phone and completely oblivious to the disaster about to envelope us. I gunned the engine, and all 80HP of the Heap surged to life, and the worn out snow tires managed to grab just a bit. The car just managed to remove us from the danger zone as the runaway rig slid past my now screaming wife, who was announcing they won, they won!) and you would have them hooked. --R On 11/24/10 2:04 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Date night! We had a houseguest, so he stayed home to watch Daniel while Jill and I went to band practice. The weather was bad, and predicted to be so, and rehearsal (which was sadly necessary!) was cut short. We made it almost all the way home, but we ran into blizzard conditions and drifting on one road I should have been savvy enough to avoid. (I had gotten stuck there once before and there was a marginally better alternate route.) We were going OK even though visibility was terrible, paffing through a few drifts high enough to wash over the hood like waves, when we ran afoul of cars stalled at a stop sign at a bit of an uphill at the juncture to our road, and were forced to ourselves stop...and join the party. The car kept us warm, and the heater fan was working well on high, but the high snow-filled winds and low temperatures took their toll in spite of the covered radiator, and the engine temperature slowly dropped. After an hour and a half or so, punctuated with other arrivals most of whom could get away again, the county plow came by and pulled us and the others out. In the meantime our own road had become impassible, and we were so cold and disheartened (we'd both gotten out and pushed a lot, both our own car and others) that we headed the other way, with the wind, rather than wait to get snowed in again or bashed into, and took refuge for the night with nearby friends. By then it had gotten so cold and windy that the windshield was more or less permanently iced up and I had to drive with my head out the opened door. That added to the fun, and resulted in a rather snowy interior. And there were still drifts to deal with that way, too. But we got through and parked out on the street. In the morning the interior of the car was frozen solid, and I couldn't even begin to start it. I had the space heater, though, and I borrowed a long extension cord and a current bush and let 'er rip for an hour or so. That got the starter knob unthawed enough to start the car, whereupon we went home. That trip, in the light and with no wind, was uneventful. Most of the drifts had by then been plowed back some. The car actually acquitted itself pretty well, we were asking a bit too much from it. The now-ancient Hakkapeliitta 1 snow tires still worked well. Had I only gone the other way it would merely have been a bit of a hairy trip. As it was, it was an Event. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Is the Frankenheap not a 240D? Where would he get 80Hp? Maybe 40 HP? Randy On 24/11/2010 11:57 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: You should take up story writing, that was a very good story there. Add a bit more drama (As the fully-loaded log truck came sliding around the curve, with the trailer trying to overtake the tractor, the fear in my wife's eyes was absent, as she was texting on her phone and completely oblivious to the disaster about to envelope us. I gunned the engine, and all 80HP of the Heap surged to life, and the worn out snow tires managed to grab just a bit. The car just managed to remove us from the danger zone as the runaway rig slid past my now screaming wife, who was announcing they won, they won!) and you would have them hooked. --R On 11/24/10 2:04 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Date night! We had a houseguest, so he stayed home to watch Daniel while Jill and I went to band practice. The weather was bad, and predicted to be so, and rehearsal (which was sadly necessary!) was cut short. We made it almost all the way home, but we ran into blizzard conditions and drifting on one road I should have been savvy enough to avoid. (I had gotten stuck there once before and there was a marginally better alternate route.) We were going OK even though visibility was terrible, paffing through a few drifts high enough to wash over the hood like waves, when we ran afoul of cars stalled at a stop sign at a bit of an uphill at the juncture to our road, and were forced to ourselves stop...and join the party. The car kept us warm, and the heater fan was working well on high, but the high snow-filled winds and low temperatures took their toll in spite of the covered radiator, and the engine temperature slowly dropped. After an hour and a half or so, punctuated with other arrivals most of whom could get away again, the county plow came by and pulled us and the others out. In the meantime our own road had become impassible, and we were so cold and disheartened (we'd both gotten out and pushed a lot, both our own car and others) that we headed the other way, with the wind, rather than wait to get snowed in again or bashed into, and took refuge for the night with nearby friends. By then it had gotten so cold and windy that the windshield was more or less permanently iced up and I had to drive with my head out the opened door. That added to the fun, and resulted in a rather snowy interior. And there were still drifts to deal with that way, too. But we got through and parked out on the street. In the morning the interior of the car was frozen solid, and I couldn't even begin to start it. I had the space heater, though, and I borrowed a long extension cord and a current bush and let 'er rip for an hour or so. That got the starter knob unthawed enough to start the car, whereupon we went home. That trip, in the light and with no wind, was uneventful. Most of the drifts had by then been plowed back some. The car actually acquitted itself pretty well, we were asking a bit too much from it. The now-ancient Hakkapeliitta 1 snow tires still worked well. Had I only gone the other way it would merely have been a bit of a hairy trip. As it was, it was an Event. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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80hp? Isn't the heap a 220D? My '78 240D is more like 62hp... But other than that I concur, I've been missing the Frankenheap and Chickenwagon... -Curt Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 12:57:23 -0500 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery Message-ID: 4ced5203.5030...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed You should take up story writing, that was a very good story there. Add a bit more drama (As the fully-loaded log truck came sliding around the curve, with the trailer trying to overtake the tractor, the fear in my wife's eyes was absent, as she was texting on her phone and completely oblivious to the disaster about to envelope us. I gunned the engine, and all 80HP of the Heap surged to life, and the worn out snow tires managed to grab just a bit. The car just managed to remove us from the danger zone as the runaway rig slid past my now screaming wife, who was announcing they won, they won!) and you would have them hooked. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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More fun today. Neither of our other two winter vehicles (both diesels, the Chicken Wagon and the Dodge pickup) would start today as it was 0 degrees (F) out and they'd not been adequately prepared for the cold which came on suddenly. Jill ended up driving this car around town all day. (Not her favorite vehicle at all.) And when she came to pick me up at work she'd had a sudden flat as she pulled in. I had to change the tire in our work parking lot, headache and feeling sickly. The jack started collapsing the underpinning of the car, this is stuff I'd welded up (from rusty tatters) years ago. Probably too thin, or else it's falling apart again. Sigh. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Is the Frankenheap not a 240D? Where would he get 80Hp? Maybe 40 HP? 80 HP? Pffft! This is a 200D, maybe 50 HP. Excellent driveability, though, with a stick shift. Torquey. The tire shop called. The Hakka 1 was ruined by driving on the flat. Crap, I was going for 10 years and didn't make it! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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and the worn out snow tires managed to grab just a bit. They weren't worn out, but they are old. That is, the three of them that haven't been ruined by my wife driving on a fla are old. The other one is now toast. I like your adventure writing better. Get started! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Having replaced TWO of them, oh yes, I noticed! Quite an adventure. We got the energy you're missing up there - set a new high temp record at 81F in Norman today. It was 70 at 8AM! On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Didn't anyone else notice the miracle hidden in there? A 115 heater fan that worked well in emergency conditions? We would have been pretty screwed had that failed on us. -- Jim -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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How did the Frankenheap get 80 HP? Sneak a turbo in there? You should take up story writing, that was a very good story there. Add a bit more drama (As the fully-loaded log truck came sliding around the curve, with the trailer trying to overtake the tractor, the fear in my wife's eyes was absent, as she was texting on her phone and completely oblivious to the disaster about to envelope us. I gunned the engine, and all 80HP of the Heap surged to life, and the worn out snow tires managed to grab just a bit. The car just managed to remove us from the danger zone as the runaway rig slid past my now screaming wife, who was announcing they won, they won!) and you would have them hooked. --R On 11/24/10 2:04 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Date night! We had a houseguest, so he stayed home to watch Daniel while Jill and I went to band practice. The weather was bad, and predicted to be so, and rehearsal (which was sadly necessary!) was cut short. We made it almost all the way home, but we ran into blizzard conditions and drifting on one road I should have been savvy enough to avoid. (I had gotten stuck there once before and there was a marginally better alternate route.) We were going OK even though visibility was terrible, paffing through a few drifts high enough to wash over the hood like waves, when we ran afoul of cars stalled at a stop sign at a bit of an uphill at the juncture to our road, and were forced to ourselves stop...and join the party. The car kept us warm, and the heater fan was working well on high, but the high snow-filled winds and low temperatures took their toll in spite of the covered radiator, and the engine temperature slowly dropped. After an hour and a half or so, punctuated with other arrivals most of whom could get away again, the county plow came by and pulled us and the others out. In the meantime our own road had become impassible, and we were so cold and disheartened (we'd both gotten out and pushed a lot, both our own car and others) that we headed the other way, with the wind, rather than wait to get snowed in again or bashed into, and took refuge for the night with nearby friends. By then it had gotten so cold and windy that the windshield was more or less permanently iced up and I had to drive with my head out the opened door. That added to the fun, and resulted in a rather snowy interior. And there were still drifts to deal with that way, too. But we got through and parked out on the street. In the morning the interior of the car was frozen solid, and I couldn't even begin to start it. I had the space heater, though, and I borrowed a long extension cord and a current bush and let 'er rip for an hour or so. That got the starter knob unthawed enough to start the car, whereupon we went home. That trip, in the light and with no wind, was uneventful. Most of the drifts had by then been plowed back some. The car actually acquitted itself pretty well, we were asking a bit too much from it. The now-ancient Hakkapeliitta 1 snow tires still worked well. Had I only gone the other way it would merely have been a bit of a hairy trip. As it was, it was an Event. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Nah, he hitched a horse with a SCUD missile to the front! :D Or was it a JATO unit? Walt On Nov 24, 2010 9:01 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: How did the Frankenheap get 80 HP? Sneak a turbo in there? You should take up story writing, that was a very good story there. Add a bit more drama (As the fully-loaded log truck came sliding around the curve, with the trailer trying to overtake the tractor, the fear in my wife's eyes was absent, as she was texting on her phone and completely oblivious to the disaster about to envelope us. I gunned the engine, and all 80HP of the Heap surged to life, and the worn out snow tires managed to grab just a bit. The car just managed to remove us from the danger zone as the runaway rig slid past my now screaming wife, who was announcing they won, they won!) and you would have them hooked. --R On 11/24/10 2:04 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Date night! We had a houseguest, so he stayed home to watch Daniel while Jill and I went to band practice. The weather was bad, and predicted to be so, and rehearsal (which was sadly necessary!) was cut short. We made it almost all the way home, but we ran into blizzard conditions and drifting on one road I should have been savvy enough to avoid. (I had gotten stuck there once before and there was a marginally better alternate route.) We were going OK even though visibility was terrible, paffing through a few drifts high enough to wash over the hood like waves, when we ran afoul of cars stalled at a stop sign at a bit of an uphill at the juncture to our road, and were forced to ourselves stop...and join the party. The car kept us warm, and the heater fan was working well on high, but the high snow-filled winds and low temperatures took their toll in spite of the covered radiator, and the engine temperature slowly dropped. After an hour and a half or so, punctuated with other arrivals most of whom could get away again, the county plow came by and pulled us and the others out. In the meantime our own road had become impassible, and we were so cold and disheartened (we'd both gotten out and pushed a lot, both our own car and others) that we headed the other way, with the wind, rather than wait to get snowed in again or bashed into, and took refuge for the night with nearby friends. By then it had gotten so cold and windy that the windshield was more or less permanently iced up and I had to drive with my head out the opened door. That added to the fun, and resulted in a rather snowy interior. And there were still drifts to deal with that way, too. But we got through and parked out on the street. In the morning the interior of the car was frozen solid, and I couldn't even begin to start it. I had the space heater, though, and I borrowed a long extension cord and a current bush and let 'er rip for an hour or so. That got the starter knob unthawed enough to start the car, whereupon we went home. That trip, in the light and with no wind, was uneventful. Most of the drifts had by then been plowed back some. The car actually acquitted itself pretty well, we were asking a bit too much from it. The now-ancient Hakkapeliitta 1 snow tires still worked well. Had I only gone the other way it would merely have been a bit of a hairy trip. As it was, it was an Event. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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the OM621 200D was 60 HP. Yours should be 60 or 65 I was thinking the OM615 220 D was 65 or 70 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Oh Man! I remember that too well. My first 190Dc I had to find a scissor jack to carry along, and then if the tire was really flat, it was nearly impossible to get the scissor jack under the axle or LCA. Add in suddenly 0, and it makes for nothing like fun. 2 years ago when it turned cold really fast, the gassers would not even start or run until it warmed up. But the old 240D took right off. When I was a kid, the 36 chevy truck would always start when nothing else would. More fun today. Neither of our other two winter vehicles (both diesels, the Chicken Wagon and the Dodge pickup) would start today as it was 0 degrees (F) out and they'd not been adequately prepared for the cold which came on suddenly. Jill ended up driving this car around town all day. (Not her favorite vehicle at all.) And when she came to pick me up at work she'd had a sudden flat as she pulled in. I had to change the tire in our work parking lot, headache and feeling sickly. The jack started collapsing the underpinning of the car, this is stuff I'd welded up (from rusty tatters) years ago. Probably too thin, or else it's falling apart again. Sigh. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net writes: The jack started collapsing the underpinning of the car, this is stuff I'd welded up (from rusty tatters) years ago. Probably too thin, or else it's falling apart again. Was this where microwave oven sheet metal was pressed into service? If so I'd vote too thin. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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the OM621 200D was 60 HP. Yours should be 60 or 65 I was thinking the OM615 220 D was 65 or 70 Somehow I'd always thought it was less. I believe it does have a 240D head on it though. One would think it ought to be about 10% less than the 220D, just based on displacement. Was this where microwave oven sheet metal was pressed into service? If so I'd vote too thin. The only microwave metal is the outer rocker shell as it was easier to curve into the desired profile. The jack hole supports underneath it, and everything else up inside, is considerably thicker stuff. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Frankenheapery
Date night! We had a houseguest, so he stayed home to watch Daniel while Jill and I went to band practice. The weather was bad, and predicted to be so, and rehearsal (which was sadly necessary!) was cut short. We made it almost all the way home, but we ran into blizzard conditions and drifting on one road I should have been savvy enough to avoid. (I had gotten stuck there once before and there was a marginally better alternate route.) We were going OK even though visibility was terrible, paffing through a few drifts high enough to wash over the hood like waves, when we ran afoul of cars stalled at a stop sign at a bit of an uphill at the juncture to our road, and were forced to ourselves stop...and join the party. The car kept us warm, and the heater fan was working well on high, but the high snow-filled winds and low temperatures took their toll in spite of the covered radiator, and the engine temperature slowly dropped. After an hour and a half or so, punctuated with other arrivals most of whom could get away again, the county plow came by and pulled us and the others out. In the meantime our own road had become impassible, and we were so cold and disheartened (we'd both gotten out and pushed a lot, both our own car and others) that we headed the other way, with the wind, rather than wait to get snowed in again or bashed into, and took refuge for the night with nearby friends. By then it had gotten so cold and windy that the windshield was more or less permanently iced up and I had to drive with my head out the opened door. That added to the fun, and resulted in a rather snowy interior. And there were still drifts to deal with that way, too. But we got through and parked out on the street. In the morning the interior of the car was frozen solid, and I couldn't even begin to start it. I had the space heater, though, and I borrowed a long extension cord and a current bush and let 'er rip for an hour or so. That got the starter knob unthawed enough to start the car, whereupon we went home. That trip, in the light and with no wind, was uneventful. Most of the drifts had by then been plowed back some. The car actually acquitted itself pretty well, we were asking a bit too much from it. The now-ancient Hakkapeliitta 1 snow tires still worked well. Had I only gone the other way it would merely have been a bit of a hairy trip. As it was, it was an Event. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dang, a movie could be made from that one! We don't have the white stuff yet, but we soon will... Any permenent damage to the interior? Walt On Nov 24, 2010 1:59 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Date night! We had a houseguest, so he stayed home to watch Daniel while Jill and I went to band practice. The weather was bad, and predicted to be so, and rehearsal (which was sadly necessary!) was cut short. We made it almost all the way home, but we ran into blizzard conditions and drifting on one road I should have been savvy enough to avoid. (I had gotten stuck there once before and there was a marginally better alternate route.) We were going OK even though visibility was terrible, paffing through a few drifts high enough to wash over the hood like waves, when we ran afoul of cars stalled at a stop sign at a bit of an uphill at the juncture to our road, and were forced to ourselves stop...and join the party. The car kept us warm, and the heater fan was working well on high, but the high snow-filled winds and low temperatures took their toll in spite of the covered radiator, and the engine temperature slowly dropped. After an hour and a half or so, punctuated with other arrivals most of whom could get away again, the county plow came by and pulled us and the others out. In the meantime our own road had become impassible, and we were so cold and disheartened (we'd both gotten out and pushed a lot, both our own car and others) that we headed the other way, with the wind, rather than wait to get snowed in again or bashed into, and took refuge for the night with nearby friends. By then it had gotten so cold and windy that the windshield was more or less permanently iced up and I had to drive with my head out the opened door. That added to the fun, and resulted in a rather snowy interior. And there were still drifts to deal with that way, too. But we got through and parked out on the street. In the morning the interior of the car was frozen solid, and I couldn't even begin to start it. I had the space heater, though, and I borrowed a long extension cord and a current bush and let 'er rip for an hour or so. That got the starter knob unthawed enough to start the car, whereupon we went home. That trip, in the light and with no wind, was uneventful. Most of the drifts had by then been plowed back some. The car actually acquitted itself pretty well, we were asking a bit too much from it. The now-ancient Hakkapeliitta 1 snow tires still worked well. Had I only gone the other way it would merely have been a bit of a hairy trip. As it was, it was an Event. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery, season finale
There's still a lot of stud noise. I'm starting to wonder if it's creeping in around the semi-loose window, or worse yet, channeling up through the door to the window from the big rusty holes in the bottom. Will try sealing the glass in its channel. But tomorrow is the last day I can legally drive on studs, and I no longer have a usable set of non-studded tires for it. I'm not planning to buy any, either! I'd better get busy. So I had a close look at the window, and the outer lip of the rearward window channel liner (right by my ear) was pretty much gone. I took some tin snips and cut off a long narrow strip of foam rubber from one of the dead weatherstrips I removed yesterday. (From one of the better sections.) I glued this in the window channel in place of what was missing. (Probably fabric, originally.) While that was drying I noted that the outside glass wipe strip was very bad as well, so I removed the aluminized trim strip and pried off the wipe. It was very rusty and decomposed. The top lip of the door's window opening was also getting very rusty, so I wire brushed it, masked it off, and rattle-canned it gray. I set up a radiant heater to help it dry. The fuzz on the wipe I removed was mostly still there, but peeled back from its proper spot. I used weatherstrip cement to glue it back into place. This won't really last, since the fuzz is decomposing and the wraparound cloth that it used to be attached to that held it in place is gone, but it should be better than it was, at least for awhile. I can always glue on a foam strip later. (Or better yet, find a good used wipe to replace it with.) I wire-brushed off the worst of the rust on the wipe's metal spine and painted it black to try to slow down the general decomposition in the area. I put it in the oven to dry, I don't really want the paint on it to fuse with the paint on the door! The wipe and trim strip installed uneventfully, except for the wasp that was living under the scrap wood I was going to use to drive the wipe back on. Fortunately he was cold. The window goes up and down rather stiffly, the foam strip may be a bit too thick. Oh well! ...Yeah, that got it. Now I can hear the skritching from the other side of the car, whereas before it was masked. Good, just in time. I filled the car on the way home, it got 30.5 MPG this last most-of-a-tank, it was probably summer fuel and of course there is the thermostatic fan clutch to help out... I wanted to put it away with a full tank to minimize water buildup. Mission accomplished. I parked it down below in storage and emptied it of everything, then popped the hood and opened the battery cutoff switch. I boxed up the good used weatherstrips in the trunk, and threw the nasty old ones in loose. (I may want to cut some more filler pieces from them.) I put the burned-out fog light bulb in the trunk too, it'll have to wait until next time. I put the rear window heater in the trunk, it won't melt in the hot summer sun that way. I hope. It's ready to wait out the time until next winter. On to the 450 SL. I need to get it out and start driving it to work. I can park it on the very busy intersection where I work and hang for-sale signs in it. -- Jim
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I started to wonder if the skritching from the studs might be coming through the _rear_ door seal, mere inches away from the front seal I've been working on. So this morning I stripped off the rear driver's-side door and B pillar weatherstrips and replaced them with the good used ones I had procured. The old door seal was pretty ratty and came off in pieces, though all four plastic retaining clips did come off intact. (As did the ones in the junkyard.) The worst bit was where the screw from the rear quarter window comes through the frame, trapping the seal. I managed it without having to dig into the door to pull this screw. The main secrets to removal are to use a thin putty knife to slice the glue along the front edge up to each clip then twist the knife to pop it out, and when pulling the strip out of the channel to give it a twisting action that pulls the inside edge first easing the strip out of its channel. Installation is similar, the strip is tucked in outside-edge first and then the putty knife is used to push the inside edge in. You have to make sure that all the corners are started first then fill in towards the middle, otherwise natural stretching can cause you to have a lot of slack at the end, too much to go anywhere. (Then you get to pull it and start over. BTDT.) Unfortunately there is a fair amount of rust along the door bottom. Not enough to prevent the seal from attaching like on the front doors, but more than I'd like. Sad. I wonder if I should go back and get those other two doors at the junkyard? I hate to invest another $45 in 'maybe' on this car, plus it's just more crap to store. The front doors are clear losers, especially the driver's. But the rears...? Now that the 'new' seal's had a chance to take a set, the trunk closes much better. -- Jim
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on 3/29/07 11:31, Jim Cathey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately there is a fair amount of rust along the door bottom. Not enough to prevent the seal from attaching like on the front doors, but more than I'd like. Sad. I wonder if I should go back and get those other two doors at the junkyard? I hate to invest another $45 in 'maybe' on this car, $45 for two doors? Go for it. Around here a decent door is $75+ (each). And they usually strip out the regulator at that price. I kid ye not. Mac
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...On the other hand, some days it's nice to own a heap. This morning I went around the car with the power wire brush, taking off anything that looked like rust. Then I hit all the brushed areas with a rattle can of gray paint. Looks lovely. (But not really any worse than before.) The car's not supposed to be beautiful, and I'd prefer to be driving around in iron's solid state rather than some of the alternatives. That noise leak at the driver's window is probably caused by door misalignment, but I've already messed with that about as much as I can. (Recall that I had to weld the hinge area of the door back together, so the geometry is automatically suspect.) So, I rolled the window down, took up the rubber mallet, and started whanging away on the window frame to drive it closer to the body. It's closer now, so I'll see if it's less noisy later this morning. In a mood to make a difference, I then stripped off the old trunk weatherseal. Though tattered at the sealing lip, the main body was still intact enough that it came off in only two pieces. After wiping down the channel and the replacement (used) seal I ran a bead of 3M weatherstrip cement along the channel, then tucked the seal into place. The trunk is relatively hard to close now, it takes a fair bit of slamming, unlike before. I've left the trunk open for it to dry in place while I get ready for work. -- Jim
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Getting a heartbreaking hole in the seat back upholstery? Mysterious scratches on your new belt? I probed the hole with my finger and found, of course, a broken spring end. Damn! The upholstery was pretty decent for its age before this happened. (I can always get a new belt.) Time to weld! I removed the seat from the car and then took off the seatback panel. The seat back has what I would call 'ribbon' springs, versus coil or serpentine wire, and one was broken where it took the sharp bend from the rear of the frame to mate with the main ribbon that spanned the back in that area. The broken end had worked its way past the main ribbon and dug a hole through everything. Fortunately it was able to wedge into its proper place due to the location of the break, so I didn't have to rig anything to hold it in place. I used the wire-feed welder to weld the broken spring ends back together. As is usual, I don't trust a welded spring to hold, the welding heat ruins the temper. So I got a strip of scrap mild steel and bent it around the joint, then tacked it together. If the spring breaks again right there that should hold things together enough to keep the broken end from going on another journey of discovery. (Ouch!) -- Jim
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Yesterday I got in the car to go home from work, hit the key and nothing. No alternator light, no glow plug action, no cranking. Dead as a stone. Crap. I popped the hood and found that the positive battery cable had come loose, probably going over the speed bump just before I parked. (The clock had stopped at about the time I'd gotten to work.) Due to the way things are laid out there's a bit of tension on that cable that encourages such misbehavior. I got the wrenches out of the trunk and put the cable back. After that no problem, things were back to normal. Good thing this wasn't my wife's car! -- Jim
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On 3/27/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday I got in the car to go home from work, hit the key and nothing. No alternator light, no glow plug action, no cranking. Dead as a stone. Crap. I popped the hood and found that the positive battery cable had come loose, probably going over the speed bump just before I parked. At least you didn't jump it, drive it around, and then waste hours trying to figure out why the battery wouldn't take a charge. (BTDT.) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper
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That ground strap down to the tranny on the 123 causes head-scratch problems too if it comes just loose enough -- and it is not real easy to see. --R Alex Chamberlain wrote: On 3/27/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday I got in the car to go home from work, hit the key and nothing. No alternator light, no glow plug action, no cranking. Dead as a stone. Crap. I popped the hood and found that the positive battery cable had come loose, probably going over the speed bump just before I parked. At least you didn't jump it, drive it around, and then waste hours trying to figure out why the battery wouldn't take a charge. (BTDT.) Alex Chamberlain
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you wrote:Good thing this wasn't my wife's car! Wife's don't like that kind of thing - must be a universal thing. ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery Yesterday I got in the car to go home from work, hit the key and nothing. No alternator light, no glow plug action, no cranking. Dead as a stone. Crap. I popped the hood and found that the positive battery cable had come loose, probably going over the speed bump just before I parked. (The clock had stopped at about the time I'd gotten to work.) Due to the way things are laid out there's a bit of tension on that cable that encourages such misbehavior. I got the wrenches out of the trunk and put the cable back. After that no problem, things were back to normal. Good thing this wasn't my wife's car! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.18/734 - Release Date: 3/26/2007 2:31 PM
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You are right about that last bit. My good wife complains bitterly about her car. She complained so about the previous car, a Mercury Sable that I traded it for a Toyota Avalon at significant loss given it was not all that old and had few miles on it. She has had no better time with the Toyota. She thinks cars should be perfect and never cause any issues. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:05 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery Yesterday I got in the car to go home from work, hit the key and nothing. No alternator light, no glow plug action, no cranking. Dead as a stone. Crap. I popped the hood and found that the positive battery cable had come loose, probably going over the speed bump just before I parked. (The clock had stopped at about the time I'd gotten to work.) Due to the way things are laid out there's a bit of tension on that cable that encourages such misbehavior. I got the wrenches out of the trunk and put the cable back. After that no problem, things were back to normal. Good thing this wasn't my wife's car! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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R A Bennell wrote: My good wife complains bitterly about her car. What's your bad wife do? She thinks cars should be perfect and never cause any issues. Tell her you want a wife that's perfect and never causes issues. Mitch.
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I think it is way too late to start thinking about a different model. This one has just become too comfortable - like my old 300D. Not the newest and most stylish but just keeps pluggin away. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 3:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery R A Bennell wrote: My good wife complains bitterly about her car. What's your bad wife do? She thinks cars should be perfect and never cause any issues. Tell her you want a wife that's perfect and never causes issues. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I will work as far as I know, but I know the early 114/115 has different hood and fenders than the later 74 and on version. Jim Cathey wrote: So, nobody knows if a '70 114 hood will go on a '72 115? Hey, there's $23 at stake here! (And a big PITA.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
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The answer is NO, it will not. Let me rephrase that, the grille will not fit it. The hood will mount. It will require new washer nozzles and connectors The 114 hood comes with! Go for it! I suspect it will fit. I have not seen the front end of a 114 looking any larger than the 115s at the PnP. Such was what my 'calibrated eyeball' said. So I bought it today, and brought it home in the trunk of the 115. (Along with the rear door and trunk weatherstripping. $31 for all.) Turns out a 114 hood can _almost_ fit in a 115's trunk, if the hood safety catch is removed and you don't care about scratching. (It couldn't go through the rear door into the back seat.) The thing needed to go in an additional inch to let the trunk close. So I tied it down with a bungee instead. When I got home I put the hood away with the other parts. The donor car has definitely been repainted, but in the same color. Looking at the fenders, their condition wasn't sufficiently good to make them worth the removal. They're certainly better than mine, but they're not perfect: some small dents and some rust at the bottoms. So I think I'll leave them, the removal is not a trivial task. (We're talking two removals, and one reinstallation. Just not worth it.) -- Jim
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Today at lunch I checked the U-Pull's online inventory list, and found a new-to-me 1970 250, it can't have been there very long. 114.010-12-XX. So off I went, hopeful that it might have some nice doors or something. Yes! A nice nearly rust-free sedan that was probably sidelined due to Zenith carburetor or ignition problems. (There were loose parts in the trunk.) Somebody had gotten the interior door hardware and screwed up the console, and had taken the tranny, but there was still plenty left. Maybe half (or more) of the good stuff was already gone. For $45 I was able to nab the two front doors, _with_ mirrors! The rubber door seals were also very good, as were the B-pillar seals. The white color is certainly not a match, but paint will probably be easier to deal with than rust. The seats and carpets are also very nice. Bamboo, or nearly so. But I don't think I need them. I'm thinking about going back for the rear door and trunk seals, if they're as good as the fronts. Does anybody know if the hood from this 114 will fit my 115? Fenders? I seem to recall that the 114's engine compartment may be longer to fit the 6-cylinder motors. The car is largely dent- and rust-free, it seems a shame to let it go to waste. Whether the Frankenheap would ever _wear_ these new parts is another interesting question. -- Jim
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So, nobody knows if a '70 114 hood will go on a '72 115? Hey, there's $23 at stake here! (And a big PITA.) -- Jim
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The answer is NO, it will not. Let me rephrase that, the grille will not fit it. The hood will mount. It will require new washer nozzles and connectors as well. - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery So, nobody knows if a '70 114 hood will go on a '72 115? Hey, there's $23 at stake here! (And a big PITA.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Go for it! I suspect it will fit. I have not seen the front end of a 114 looking any larger than the 115s at the PnP. On Mar 14, 2007, at 8:41 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: So, nobody knows if a '70 114 hood will go on a '72 115? Hey, there's $23 at stake here! (And a big PITA.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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Can he use the grill from the 114 on the 114 hood in his 115? I mounted a '69 114 grill on Gump because I liked the metal better than the plastic. On Mar 14, 2007, at 9:16 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote: The answer is NO, it will not. Let me rephrase that, the grille will not fit it. The hood will mount. It will require new washer nozzles and connectors as well. - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery So, nobody knows if a '70 114 hood will go on a '72 115? Hey, there's $23 at stake here! (And a big PITA.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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That, he should be able to do. - Original Message - From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery Can he use the grill from the 114 on the 114 hood in his 115? I mounted a '69 114 grill on Gump because I liked the metal better than the plastic. On Mar 14, 2007, at 9:16 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote: The answer is NO, it will not. Let me rephrase that, the grille will not fit it. The hood will mount. It will require new washer nozzles and connectors as well. - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Frankenheapery So, nobody knows if a '70 114 hood will go on a '72 115? Hey, there's $23 at stake here! (And a big PITA.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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There is a vent line that exits near the rear pass indicator. Gump has the same thing On Saturday, December 31, 2005, at 06:58 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Trampas wrote: I think on most gas caps the fresh air comes in through the fuel cap. Thus it is an easy fix. I was thinking that there was a vent line from the tank and the cap was sealed, at least on newer cars. I believe the heap is a 115, don't know how it is vented. If less than one bar can collapse a tank, can you put it back in shape by inflating it to 1/2 or 1 bar above ambient pressure? ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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Mitch Haley wrote: Trampas wrote: I think on most gas caps the fresh air comes in through the fuel cap. Thus it is an easy fix. I was thinking that there was a vent line from the tank and the cap was sealed, at least on newer cars. Having looked at the fuel level in the filler after topping off my 300D, I think a vented cap would weep fuel when taking left turns with a full tank.
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My stock non-vented caps did leak fuel until I replaced the rubber gaskets with new ones from Rusty - Having looked at the fuel level in the filler after topping off my 300D, I think a vented cap would weep fuel when taking left turns with a full tank. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
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Datemobile! We left the SDL (what we might normally have driven) home on date night so that our babysitting houseguest would have something semi-normal to drive in case of an emergency. It worked well, though on a dark rainy night the wipers (which had been doing well I had thought) showed obvious signs of having hit the wall. Got to get some more blades! The reserve light came on with still 1/4 tank indicated, which was odd, so we stopped for fuel. Pshh-Tunk! Oh oh, the tank vent is obviously not working, there was a _lot_ of vacuum in the tank, enough to make it 'oilcan' when it was released. As I'd left the key on so that the heater fan and radio would keep working for my wife, I could see that the reserve light went out once I removed the cap. This tank (from last March) in fact only turned in 29 MPG over 435 miles rather than the substantially better figure that the gauge behavior had hitherto been implying, which is more what I would have expected for the circumstances. Got to find and fix the tank vent before it ruins the fuel tank, assuming it hasn't already. -- Jim
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I think on most gas caps the fresh air comes in through the fuel cap. Thus it is an easy fix. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 8:51 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Frankenheapery Datemobile! We left the SDL (what we might normally have driven) home on date night so that our babysitting houseguest would have something semi-normal to drive in case of an emergency. It worked well, though on a dark rainy night the wipers (which had been doing well I had thought) showed obvious signs of having hit the wall. Got to get some more blades! The reserve light came on with still 1/4 tank indicated, which was odd, so we stopped for fuel. Pshh-Tunk! Oh oh, the tank vent is obviously not working, there was a _lot_ of vacuum in the tank, enough to make it 'oilcan' when it was released. As I'd left the key on so that the heater fan and radio would keep working for my wife, I could see that the reserve light went out once I removed the cap. This tank (from last March) in fact only turned in 29 MPG over 435 miles rather than the substantially better figure that the gauge behavior had hitherto been implying, which is more what I would have expected for the circumstances. Got to find and fix the tank vent before it ruins the fuel tank, assuming it hasn't already. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Trampas wrote: I think on most gas caps the fresh air comes in through the fuel cap. Thus it is an easy fix. I was thinking that there was a vent line from the tank and the cap was sealed, at least on newer cars. I believe the heap is a 115, don't know how it is vented. If less than one bar can collapse a tank, can you put it back in shape by inflating it to 1/2 or 1 bar above ambient pressure?
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Not sure, but Mitch is correct. The cap is sealed. My vent line plugged and I drilled a 1/16 hole in the cap. I heard someone on the old list telling that he did inflate the tank and it popped back. On 12/31/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trampas wrote: I think on most gas caps the fresh air comes in through the fuel cap. Thus it is an easy fix. I was thinking that there was a vent line from the tank and the cap was sealed, at least on newer cars. I believe the heap is a 115, don't know how it is vented. If less than one bar can collapse a tank, can you put it back in shape by inflating it to 1/2 or 1 bar above ambient pressure? ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
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I think on most gas caps the fresh air comes in through the fuel cap. Thus it is an easy fix. No MB I'm aware of has a vented cap. It is a separate item elsewhere, and prone to getting mud in it or whatever. sealed, at least on newer cars. I believe the heap is a 115, don't know how it is vented. If less than one bar can collapse a tank, can you put it back in shape by inflating it to 1/2 or 1 bar above ambient pressure? The heap is a 115. Most of the cars I've examined have the double-acting vent under the car near the rear axle. If the tank has been deformed I'm sure I can pop it back out with air. -- Jim
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So, folks have found ways to re-form their tanks, then? My TD tank is deformed and no longer provides me with much fuel confidence below the .25 tank level. I've owned the car for 3 years and have never successfully driven into the reserve without running short on fuel. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
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So, folks have found ways to re-form their tanks, then? My TD tank is deformed and no longer provides me with much fuel confidence below the .25 tank level. I've owned the car for 3 years and have never successfully driven into the reserve without running short on fuel. Are you sure the tank is deformed? What about the all-too-common mistake of getting the fuel feed and return lines crossed? Results in running out of fuel before the tank is empty. -- Jim
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I can see the deformation quite clearly from the outside. On 12/31/05, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you sure the tank is deformed? What about the all-too-common mistake of getting the fuel feed and return lines crossed? Results in running out of fuel before the tank is empty. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
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If the deformation does not have a crease, I would try to put compressed air in through the filler neck and seal the opening with a wet rag. On 12/31/05, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can see the deformation quite clearly from the outside. On 12/31/05, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you sure the tank is deformed? What about the all-too-common mistake of getting the fuel feed and return lines crossed? Results in running out of fuel before the tank is empty. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
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Trampas wrote: I think on most gas caps the fresh air comes in through the fuel cap. Thus it is an easy fix. None of the Mercedes diesel tanks made in the last couple of decades vent thru the cap. They all have vent lines with valves at the end that control pressure/vacuum. They can all fill and plug with mud or other debris and require occasional cleaning. Sometimes a stiff piece of wire is sufficient (if the block isn't too far in) after removing the valve. I'm told that the core from an old speedometer cable is ideal. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
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Zeitgeist wrote: So, folks have found ways to re-form their tanks, then? My TD tank is deformed and no longer provides me with much fuel confidence below the .25 tank level. I've owned the car for 3 years and have never successfully driven into the reserve without running short on fuel. Have you confirmed that the supply and return lines have NOT been reversed? That will cause you to run out of fuel when there is still 3-4 gallons left in the tank. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
