Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing
Today was not a car day. It was View Improvement day. I cut down two pines that impaired the view of the dry (-ish) lake bed from the new addition, and cut up the blue spruce they pushed over with the Cat before construction began. All for next winter's firewood. More tomorrow, I think. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing
Photos? Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing BTW, Jim, what's the latest with the construction project? It's painted. The stone work is done except for some mortar joints. Lights in yesterday. The wood stove was installed today. Carpet and deck railing are about all that's left. Oh, and landscape repair. Lots of that... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing
Photos? None yet. It's so close, I'll wait 'til it's done. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing
Of course. 'Bet it's looking good. Danke. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing Photos? None yet. It's so close, I'll wait 'til it's done. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing
BTW, Jim, what's the latest with the construction project? It's painted. The stone work is done except for some mortar joints. Lights in yesterday. The wood stove was installed today. Carpet and deck railing are about all that's left. Oh, and landscape repair. Lots of that... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing
BTW, how's the construction going? Wiring is all in, for good or ill. (I planned Cat 5e and RG6 feeds from here to there, let's hope I did it right.) Speaker cables run for house 'Muzak'. Media room wiring wasn't to be a part of this project, this isn't where the big stuff's to be. Drywall is mostly in, mudding will start today. Windows all in. Deck built, but no railing yet. (That's to be custom to match what's already there, and it's my responsibility not the contractor's.) It's looking pretty good, though not particularly picture-worthy again yet. Ceiling fan ordered, and in-wall heat circulator as well. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing
'Sounding good. 'Hope all continues well. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing BTW, how's the construction going? Wiring is all in, for good or ill. (I planned Cat 5e and RG6 feeds from here to there, let's hope I did it right.) Speaker cables run for house 'Muzak'. Media room wiring wasn't to be a part of this project, this isn't where the big stuff's to be. Drywall is mostly in, mudding will start today. Windows all in. Deck built, but no railing yet. (That's to be custom to match what's already there, and it's my responsibility not the contractor's.) It's looking pretty good, though not particularly picture-worthy again yet. Ceiling fan ordered, and in-wall heat circulator as well. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing
Attaboy! 'Looking good. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 12:51 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing Just 'cause I can, here is a picture from last week. Today it's all framed and roofed, including re-roofing the house. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: wwing.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 4661 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090208/bb 251292/attachment.jpg -- next part -- This picture (original, in Rebel's minimum file size) was 265K. The trimmed to 1/8 scale (using djpeg/cjpeg CLI tools) attached file is 4661 bytes. It takes about 1/3 second to do that to this picture on this blazing 233 MHz G3. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing
Just 'cause I can, here is a picture from last week. Today it's all framed and roofed, including re-roofing the house. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: wwing.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 4661 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090208/bb251292/attachment.jpg -- next part -- This picture (original, in Rebel's minimum file size) was 265K. The trimmed to 1/8 scale (using djpeg/cjpeg CLI tools) attached file is 4661 bytes. It takes about 1/3 second to do that to this picture on this blazing 233 MHz G3. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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We just returned home to find a big pit in our front yard. Vandals pushed over a tree, gouged out a bunch of dirt, ripped off the front door and the steps, and made a mess with concrete... Oh wait, they were _supposed_ to do all that! The melt allowed construction to begin in other words, so we are now going through the garage for access. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing
Jim Cathey wrote: The melt allowed construction to begin in other words, so we are now going through the garage for access. I was wondering how you were going to get the addition in the the middle of winter! How long are they estimating it will last? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing
Good luck. 'Hope ALL aspects of the project go VERY well. Wilton, 'been there, too - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing We just returned home to find a big pit in our front yard. Vandals pushed over a tree, gouged out a bunch of dirt, ripped off the front door and the steps, and made a mess with concrete... Oh wait, they were _supposed_ to do all that! The melt allowed construction to begin in other words, so we are now going through the garage for access. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing
We build year round here Wilton. -20 here today, and they're out there building away. Everything from laying brick to applying stucco. Pretty much nothing stops them from building foundations and framing here. 15-20 years ago, everyone went home on days like today. lol Ed 300E 2009/1/14 John Robbins je...@msstate.edu Jim Cathey wrote: The melt allowed construction to begin in other words, so we are now going through the garage for access. I was wondering how you were going to get the addition in the the middle of winter! How long are they estimating it will last? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090114/88291508/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing
Jim wrote: We just returned home to find a big pit in our front yard. Vandals pushed over a tree, gouged out a bunch of dirt, ripped off the front door and the steps, and made a mess with concrete... Too bad you weren't there when it happened - you could have made a suitable defences of your castle! Them vandals keep getting bolder... -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing
Work is proceeding slowly, the front yard is all dug up: trenches for the moving of the underground power wire. Yesterday they were out there using a weed burner to try to thaw the ground so that they could expose the live wire for tying into. Not a fun-looking job if you ask me! The delay caused by this unplanned wiring project meant that they haven't yet got the Cat in here to do the foundation digging. Part of the plan was to use the Cat to push over the blue spruce that's in the way. (That way the root ball comes up too.) My plan was to then top it for our best-ever Christmas tree, but we're running behind. So yesterday I came home at lunch while Jill was away (as she objected) and I scaled the tree with a little folding handsaw. I cut off the top and came back down. Turned out the tree had forked a few years back, so the tree still has a top and doesn't look bad. Of course, the fork meant that my new tree doesn't look as good as it might have. Oh well. Part of the fun of harvesting your own. The good part of this new power wiring is that I'm getting rid of the extra pumphouse meter ($20/month forever), and I'm getting a service cutoff switch down at the power pole. That's where I'll put the generator hut, someday. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing
Neighbor and I were growing some seedless white sort of grape. I removed mine a few years ago to redo the raised beds and now have a great sunny stonewalled area to plant them again. I have had some luck with red grapes, but more for eating than wine. Neighbor tried to make wine with his, and ended up getting a crate shipped so he could have a real crush. NASTY WINE clay On Nov 24, 2008, at 10:45 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: As for the Marionberry/blackberry What sort of soil is it planted in? Pine tree potting soil. At least, so it seems based upon its behavior. Can't keep the pine trees from sprouting up everywhere. Decomposed granite, very well drained. The lawn area, where they touched upon, had some kind of topsoil trucked in, IMHO. Probably lake bed muck from the nearby drained (20's) lake. I am thinking it wants something peaty and moister. They were right on the edge of the lawn, with drippers. Being a real blackberry and not that invasive chinese sort, it needs more care and good feeding. Bound to be warm enough by you for summer growth. Care? Feeding? Hmm, maybe I should try that sometime. I just moved them out of the yard and over near the little greenhouse. There's a water line there, too. I had to move them or the excavator'd probably trample them. I am investigating western washington grape growing so I can plant my vineyard. Don't hold your breath. My dad's been trying to grow Pinot Noir for years. It's holding on, but the growing season is just a little too short for them to ripen all the way, most years. This is a bit north of Portland. Pinot does well south of Portland, but not to the north. You're in worse shape, at least so far as the traditional wine grapes I'm aware of. You could probably make some nice Concord wine... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing
Where does Clay live? The south? On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neighbor and I were growing some seedless white sort of grape. I removed mine a few years ago to redo the raised beds and now have a great sunny stonewalled area to plant them again. I have had some luck with red grapes, but more for eating than wine. Neighbor tried to make wine with his, and ended up getting a crate shipped so he could have a real crush. NASTY WINE clay On Nov 24, 2008, at 10:45 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: As for the Marionberry/blackberry What sort of soil is it planted in? Pine tree potting soil. At least, so it seems based upon its behavior. Can't keep the pine trees from sprouting up everywhere. Decomposed granite, very well drained. The lawn area, where they touched upon, had some kind of topsoil trucked in, IMHO. Probably lake bed muck from the nearby drained (20's) lake. I am thinking it wants something peaty and moister. They were right on the edge of the lawn, with drippers. Being a real blackberry and not that invasive chinese sort, it needs more care and good feeding. Bound to be warm enough by you for summer growth. Care? Feeding? Hmm, maybe I should try that sometime. I just moved them out of the yard and over near the little greenhouse. There's a water line there, too. I had to move them or the excavator'd probably trample them. I am investigating western washington grape growing so I can plant my vineyard. Don't hold your breath. My dad's been trying to grow Pinot Noir for years. It's holding on, but the growing season is just a little too short for them to ripen all the way, most years. This is a bit north of Portland. Pinot does well south of Portland, but not to the north. You're in worse shape, at least so far as the traditional wine grapes I'm aware of. You could probably make some nice Concord wine... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Olympia, WA On 11/25/08, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where does Clay live? The south? On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neighbor and I were growing some seedless white sort of grape. I removed mine a few years ago to redo the raised beds and now have a great sunny stonewalled area to plant them again. I have had some luck with red grapes, but more for eating than wine. Neighbor tried to make wine with his, and ended up getting a crate shipped so he could have a real crush. NASTY WINE clay On Nov 24, 2008, at 10:45 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: As for the Marionberry/blackberry What sort of soil is it planted in? Pine tree potting soil. At least, so it seems based upon its behavior. Can't keep the pine trees from sprouting up everywhere. Decomposed granite, very well drained. The lawn area, where they touched upon, had some kind of topsoil trucked in, IMHO. Probably lake bed muck from the nearby drained (20's) lake. I am thinking it wants something peaty and moister. They were right on the edge of the lawn, with drippers. Being a real blackberry and not that invasive chinese sort, it needs more care and good feeding. Bound to be warm enough by you for summer growth. Care? Feeding? Hmm, maybe I should try that sometime. I just moved them out of the yard and over near the little greenhouse. There's a water line there, too. I had to move them or the excavator'd probably trample them. I am investigating western washington grape growing so I can plant my vineyard. Don't hold your breath. My dad's been trying to grow Pinot Noir for years. It's holding on, but the growing season is just a little too short for them to ripen all the way, most years. This is a bit north of Portland. Pinot does well south of Portland, but not to the north. You're in worse shape, at least so far as the traditional wine grapes I'm aware of. You could probably make some nice Concord wine... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sent from my mobile device ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That's G*d's country. How is it possible to make bad wine there? On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Olympia, WA On 11/25/08, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where does Clay live? The south? On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neighbor and I were growing some seedless white sort of grape. I removed mine a few years ago to redo the raised beds and now have a great sunny stonewalled area to plant them again. I have had some luck with red grapes, but more for eating than wine. Neighbor tried to make wine with his, and ended up getting a crate shipped so he could have a real crush. NASTY WINE clay On Nov 24, 2008, at 10:45 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: As for the Marionberry/blackberry What sort of soil is it planted in? Pine tree potting soil. At least, so it seems based upon its behavior. Can't keep the pine trees from sprouting up everywhere. Decomposed granite, very well drained. The lawn area, where they touched upon, had some kind of topsoil trucked in, IMHO. Probably lake bed muck from the nearby drained (20's) lake. I am thinking it wants something peaty and moister. They were right on the edge of the lawn, with drippers. Being a real blackberry and not that invasive chinese sort, it needs more care and good feeding. Bound to be warm enough by you for summer growth. Care? Feeding? Hmm, maybe I should try that sometime. I just moved them out of the yard and over near the little greenhouse. There's a water line there, too. I had to move them or the excavator'd probably trample them. I am investigating western washington grape growing so I can plant my vineyard. Don't hold your breath. My dad's been trying to grow Pinot Noir for years. It's holding on, but the growing season is just a little too short for them to ripen all the way, most years. This is a bit north of Portland. Pinot does well south of Portland, but not to the north. You're in worse shape, at least so far as the traditional wine grapes I'm aware of. You could probably make some nice Concord wine... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sent from my mobile device ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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seattle On Nov 25, 2008, at 9:10 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Where does Clay live? The south? On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neighbor and I were growing some seedless white sort of grape. I removed mine a few years ago to redo the raised beds and now have a great sunny stonewalled area to plant them again. I have had some luck with red grapes, but more for eating than wine. Neighbor tried to make wine with his, and ended up getting a crate shipped so he could have a real crush. NASTY WINE clay On Nov 24, 2008, at 10:45 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: As for the Marionberry/blackberry What sort of soil is it planted in? Pine tree potting soil. At least, so it seems based upon its behavior. Can't keep the pine trees from sprouting up everywhere. Decomposed granite, very well drained. The lawn area, where they touched upon, had some kind of topsoil trucked in, IMHO. Probably lake bed muck from the nearby drained (20's) lake. I am thinking it wants something peaty and moister. They were right on the edge of the lawn, with drippers. Being a real blackberry and not that invasive chinese sort, it needs more care and good feeding. Bound to be warm enough by you for summer growth. Care? Feeding? Hmm, maybe I should try that sometime. I just moved them out of the yard and over near the little greenhouse. There's a water line there, too. I had to move them or the excavator'd probably trample them. I am investigating western washington grape growing so I can plant my vineyard. Don't hold your breath. My dad's been trying to grow Pinot Noir for years. It's holding on, but the growing season is just a little too short for them to ripen all the way, most years. This is a bit north of Portland. Pinot does well south of Portland, but not to the north. You're in worse shape, at least so far as the traditional wine grapes I'm aware of. You could probably make some nice Concord wine... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Nope that is Casey clay On Nov 25, 2008, at 9:18 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: Olympia, WA On 11/25/08, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where does Clay live? The south? On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neighbor and I were growing some seedless white sort of grape. I removed mine a few years ago to redo the raised beds and now have a great sunny stonewalled area to plant them again. I have had some luck with red grapes, but more for eating than wine. Neighbor tried to make wine with his, and ended up getting a crate shipped so he could have a real crush. NASTY WINE clay On Nov 24, 2008, at 10:45 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: As for the Marionberry/blackberry What sort of soil is it planted in? Pine tree potting soil. At least, so it seems based upon its behavior. Can't keep the pine trees from sprouting up everywhere. Decomposed granite, very well drained. The lawn area, where they touched upon, had some kind of topsoil trucked in, IMHO. Probably lake bed muck from the nearby drained (20's) lake. I am thinking it wants something peaty and moister. They were right on the edge of the lawn, with drippers. Being a real blackberry and not that invasive chinese sort, it needs more care and good feeding. Bound to be warm enough by you for summer growth. Care? Feeding? Hmm, maybe I should try that sometime. I just moved them out of the yard and over near the little greenhouse. There's a water line there, too. I had to move them or the excavator'd probably trample them. I am investigating western washington grape growing so I can plant my vineyard. Don't hold your breath. My dad's been trying to grow Pinot Noir for years. It's holding on, but the growing season is just a little too short for them to ripen all the way, most years. This is a bit north of Portland. Pinot does well south of Portland, but not to the north. You're in worse shape, at least so far as the traditional wine grapes I'm aware of. You could probably make some nice Concord wine... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sent from my mobile device ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Where does Clay live? The south? The sunny alluvial soils of north Seattle. A place famous for its long hot growing season. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That bid sounds about right for your area Jim. Did the huge remuddle on my house in '99 and that came in at 130k. You will be getting much more room. As for the Marionberry/blackberry What sort of soil is it planted in? I am thinking it wants something peaty and moister. Being a real blackberry and not that invasive chinese sort, it needs more care and good feeding. Bound to be warm enough by you for summer growth. Too warm? Too dry? Too cold of a winter? Tried mulching with a nitrogen rich mix? I am investigating western washington grape growing so I can plant my vineyard. clay On Nov 23, 2008, at 4:28 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: It looks like we might be pulling the trigger on a little project I've wanted for a long time: an extension off the side of our living room. 18x20', two-storey, vaulted ceiling, deck, porch. Two small bed/office rooms below. French doors onto the deck, windows on both other sides. Passage cut on one side of our existing fireplace. Free standing wood stove in the new addition, along with a nice ceiling fan. Styled to roughly match the rest of the 70's house, but with Craftsman influences where we can get away with them. Just like the 6-car garage addition, rule #1 is to make it look like it was always there. There are a few complications, the worst is that we'll have to move the power feed to the house. We'll also have to cut down one of the two big blue spruces in the yard. (I plan to use the top for our Christmas tree, it'll be the best-looking tree we've had by far. [We get them off our property every year.]) The bid is $97k. Opinions? The contractor is recently returned to the area, he used to do chores for the previous owner. His dad still lives across the road. My jokes to SWMBA about having room to park another car under the deck didn't seem to go over very well. We just transplanted the rose my deceased mother planted by the entryway, and the never-happy blackberries she also gave me that I've been hoping will grow. They're not the usual giant Washington car-eating blackberries, these are smaller with a very good flavor. Supposedly. They've never fruited, never even grown in ten or so years. But they're not dead yet, either. Unless I just killed them. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That being said, and good advice too. Have EVERYTHING ready to go in and know EXACTLY where it all goes. Spec every last detail and shop it about so you get best prices. There is nothing as frustrating and homicide inducing as having to unbuild what you just put in because you came late with the engineering and products. Had to redo structural because the engineering for the balcony came back as can't be done. Builder figured out it could be canted and tore up everything he did for two weeks to make it happen. Then SWMBA chose her bathroom fixtures. Had to tear out the floors and walls to redo plumbing we put in a month before to accommodate that choice. Oak flooring came in two batches because she changed her mind on wool carpeting needed to be oak now. Found out, after installing 900sqft that the initial 700 were red and the other 800 were white. Oak burns REALLY hot and I still have enough after 8 years. Contractor ate that one. clay On Nov 23, 2008, at 4:43 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: The advice given to me for a similar project was: get the divorce first ... you can always get remarried again later if it works out. Seriously, we did a major remodel on two houses while living in them. Check out your builder AND his subs before you sign. Check references and suppliers too. Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 19:29 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing It looks like we might be pulling the trigger on a little project I've wanted for a long time: an extension off the side of our living room. 18x20', two-storey, vaulted ceiling, deck, porch. Two small bed/office rooms below. French doors onto the deck, windows on both other sides. Passage cut on one side of our existing fireplace. Free standing wood stove in the new addition, along with a nice ceiling fan. Styled to roughly match the rest of the 70's house, but with Craftsman influences where we can get away with them. Just like the 6-car garage addition, rule #1 is to make it look like it was always there. There are a few complications, the worst is that we'll have to move the power feed to the house. We'll also have to cut down one of the two big blue spruces in the yard. (I plan to use the top for our Christmas tree, it'll be the best-looking tree we've had by far. [We get them off our property every year.]) The bid is $97k. Opinions? The contractor is recently returned to the area, he used to do chores for the previous owner. His dad still lives across the road. My jokes to SWMBA about having room to park another car under the deck didn't seem to go over very well. We just transplanted the rose my deceased mother planted by the entryway, and the never-happy blackberries she also gave me that I've been hoping will grow. They're not the usual giant Washington car-eating blackberries, these are smaller with a very good flavor. Supposedly. They've never fruited, never even grown in ten or so years. But they're not dead yet, either. Unless I just killed them. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What they say and what it ends up is a tad bit different. Most of the contractors I had bid came in low and specified low end products and finish. I picked the TM anal retentive fellow who would do great work and contracted it myself. No mark up on product and I had to make the builder happy with what I sourced. All dimensional #1 and finish grade ply, not knotty wood and particle board. Ended up 33% more than the most expensive bid, but craftsman quality, not beaner with a nail gun. clay On Nov 23, 2008, at 7:23 PM, harry watkins wrote: Jim Around here they always talk in cost per sq ft, makes it easy to compare. Harry - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing Yeah, don't push that too hard. With a 6-car garage, you shouldn't have to. Besides, it sounds like it's your wife's turn for something nice. Eight-car garage. Did I imply the house didn't have a garage before I put on the extension? :-) Even so we've got as many cars outside as in, right now. She does get something nice: empty space with none of my crap in it. A bigger deck. A bigger entryway. And a porch. And the opportunity to furnish/decorate it at her whim. Along with choosing new carpet for the house as well. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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As for the Marionberry/blackberry What sort of soil is it planted in? Pine tree potting soil. At least, so it seems based upon its behavior. Can't keep the pine trees from sprouting up everywhere. Decomposed granite, very well drained. The lawn area, where they touched upon, had some kind of topsoil trucked in, IMHO. Probably lake bed muck from the nearby drained (20's) lake. I am thinking it wants something peaty and moister. They were right on the edge of the lawn, with drippers. Being a real blackberry and not that invasive chinese sort, it needs more care and good feeding. Bound to be warm enough by you for summer growth. Care? Feeding? Hmm, maybe I should try that sometime. I just moved them out of the yard and over near the little greenhouse. There's a water line there, too. I had to move them or the excavator'd probably trample them. I am investigating western washington grape growing so I can plant my vineyard. Don't hold your breath. My dad's been trying to grow Pinot Noir for years. It's holding on, but the growing season is just a little too short for them to ripen all the way, most years. This is a bit north of Portland. Pinot does well south of Portland, but not to the north. You're in worse shape, at least so far as the traditional wine grapes I'm aware of. You could probably make some nice Concord wine... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Found out, after installing 900sqft that the initial 700 were red and the other 800 were white. I'd want the white oak installed, not the red. We're going carpet, though. Easy, and cheap, and warmer to the feet. And has the advantage of taking out the orange shag in the rest of the house at the same time. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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All dimensional #1 and finish grade ply, not knotty wood and particle board. I don't care much about knots, etc. But no particle/chip board will be used. I spec'd plywood. There will be some OSB in the floor joists, but I don't mind that so much. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It looks like we might be pulling the trigger on a little project I've wanted for a long time: an extension off the side of our living room. 18x20', two-storey, vaulted ceiling, deck, porch. Two small bed/office rooms below. French doors onto the deck, windows on both other sides. Passage cut on one side of our existing fireplace. Free standing wood stove in the new addition, along with a nice ceiling fan. Styled to roughly match the rest of the 70's house, but with Craftsman influences where we can get away with them. Just like the 6-car garage addition, rule #1 is to make it look like it was always there. There are a few complications, the worst is that we'll have to move the power feed to the house. We'll also have to cut down one of the two big blue spruces in the yard. (I plan to use the top for our Christmas tree, it'll be the best-looking tree we've had by far. [We get them off our property every year.]) The bid is $97k. Opinions? The contractor is recently returned to the area, he used to do chores for the previous owner. His dad still lives across the road. My jokes to SWMBA about having room to park another car under the deck didn't seem to go over very well. We just transplanted the rose my deceased mother planted by the entryway, and the never-happy blackberries she also gave me that I've been hoping will grow. They're not the usual giant Washington car-eating blackberries, these are smaller with a very good flavor. Supposedly. They've never fruited, never even grown in ten or so years. But they're not dead yet, either. Unless I just killed them. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:28:50 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like we might be pulling the trigger on a little project I've wanted for a long time: an extension off the side of our living room. 18x20', two-storey, vaulted ceiling, deck, porch... The bid is $97k. Opinions? The contractor is recently returned to the area, he used to do chores for the previous owner. His dad still lives across the road. Compared to here, it sounds quite reasonable. We're getting quoted $21k to finish off the conversion of a mother-in-law suite. My jokes to SWMBA about having room to park another car under the deck didn't seem to go over very well. Yeah, don't push that too hard. With a 6-car garage, you shouldn't have to. Besides, it sounds like it's your wife's turn for something nice. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yeah, don't push that too hard. With a 6-car garage, you shouldn't have to. Besides, it sounds like it's your wife's turn for something nice. Eight-car garage. Did I imply the house didn't have a garage before I put on the extension? :-) Even so we've got as many cars outside as in, right now. She does get something nice: empty space with none of my crap in it. A bigger deck. A bigger entryway. And a porch. And the opportunity to furnish/decorate it at her whim. Along with choosing new carpet for the house as well. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Where are you located? That seems a bit pricey ($/ft^2) if you are not doing bathrooms. Or maybe prices have gone way up, though it seems in these tough times for builders that you might find a better deal? --R Scott Ritchey wrote: The advice given to me for a similar project was: get the divorce first ... you can always get remarried again later if it works out. Seriously, we did a major remodel on two houses while living in them. Check out your builder AND his subs before you sign. Check references and suppliers too. Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 19:29 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing It looks like we might be pulling the trigger on a little project I've wanted for a long time: an extension off the side of our living room. 18x20', two-storey, vaulted ceiling, deck, porch. Two small bed/office rooms below. French doors onto the deck, windows on both other sides. Passage cut on one side of our existing fireplace. Free standing wood stove in the new addition, along with a nice ceiling fan. Styled to roughly match the rest of the 70's house, but with Craftsman influences where we can get away with them. Just like the 6-car garage addition, rule #1 is to make it look like it was always there. There are a few complications, the worst is that we'll have to move the power feed to the house. We'll also have to cut down one of the two big blue spruces in the yard. (I plan to use the top for our Christmas tree, it'll be the best-looking tree we've had by far. [We get them off our property every year.]) The bid is $97k. Opinions? The contractor is recently returned to the area, he used to do chores for the previous owner. His dad still lives across the road. My jokes to SWMBA about having room to park another car under the deck didn't seem to go over very well. We just transplanted the rose my deceased mother planted by the entryway, and the never-happy blackberries she also gave me that I've been hoping will grow. They're not the usual giant Washington car-eating blackberries, these are smaller with a very good flavor. Supposedly. They've never fruited, never even grown in ten or so years. But they're not dead yet, either. Unless I just killed them. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The advice given to me for a similar project was: get the divorce first ... you can always get remarried again later if it works out. Seriously, we did a major remodel on two houses while living in them. Check out your builder AND his subs before you sign. Check references and suppliers too. Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 19:29 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing It looks like we might be pulling the trigger on a little project I've wanted for a long time: an extension off the side of our living room. 18x20', two-storey, vaulted ceiling, deck, porch. Two small bed/office rooms below. French doors onto the deck, windows on both other sides. Passage cut on one side of our existing fireplace. Free standing wood stove in the new addition, along with a nice ceiling fan. Styled to roughly match the rest of the 70's house, but with Craftsman influences where we can get away with them. Just like the 6-car garage addition, rule #1 is to make it look like it was always there. There are a few complications, the worst is that we'll have to move the power feed to the house. We'll also have to cut down one of the two big blue spruces in the yard. (I plan to use the top for our Christmas tree, it'll be the best-looking tree we've had by far. [We get them off our property every year.]) The bid is $97k. Opinions? The contractor is recently returned to the area, he used to do chores for the previous owner. His dad still lives across the road. My jokes to SWMBA about having room to park another car under the deck didn't seem to go over very well. We just transplanted the rose my deceased mother planted by the entryway, and the never-happy blackberries she also gave me that I've been hoping will grow. They're not the usual giant Washington car-eating blackberries, these are smaller with a very good flavor. Supposedly. They've never fruited, never even grown in ten or so years. But they're not dead yet, either. Unless I just killed them. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Another basic law of nature: life always goes POOF! to fill the space available. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing Yeah, don't push that too hard. With a 6-car garage, you shouldn't have to. Besides, it sounds like it's your wife's turn for something nice. Eight-car garage. Did I imply the house didn't have a garage before I put on the extension? :-) Even so we've got as many cars outside as in, right now. She does get something nice: empty space with none of my crap in it. A bigger deck. A bigger entryway. And a porch. And the opportunity to furnish/decorate it at her whim. Along with choosing new carpet for the house as well. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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And pay only for what's BEEN done. Wilton - Original Message - From: Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing The advice given to me for a similar project was: get the divorce first ... you can always get remarried again later if it works out. Seriously, we did a major remodel on two houses while living in them. Check out your builder AND his subs before you sign. Check references and suppliers too. Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 19:29 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing It looks like we might be pulling the trigger on a little project I've wanted for a long time: an extension off the side of our living room. 18x20', two-storey, vaulted ceiling, deck, porch. Two small bed/office rooms below. French doors onto the deck, windows on both other sides. Passage cut on one side of our existing fireplace. Free standing wood stove in the new addition, along with a nice ceiling fan. Styled to roughly match the rest of the 70's house, but with Craftsman influences where we can get away with them. Just like the 6-car garage addition, rule #1 is to make it look like it was always there. There are a few complications, the worst is that we'll have to move the power feed to the house. We'll also have to cut down one of the two big blue spruces in the yard. (I plan to use the top for our Christmas tree, it'll be the best-looking tree we've had by far. [We get them off our property every year.]) The bid is $97k. Opinions? The contractor is recently returned to the area, he used to do chores for the previous owner. His dad still lives across the road. My jokes to SWMBA about having room to park another car under the deck didn't seem to go over very well. We just transplanted the rose my deceased mother planted by the entryway, and the never-happy blackberries she also gave me that I've been hoping will grow. They're not the usual giant Washington car-eating blackberries, these are smaller with a very good flavor. Supposedly. They've never fruited, never even grown in ten or so years. But they're not dead yet, either. Unless I just killed them. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing
I thought you were going to talk about the TV show Jim Cathey wrote: It looks like we might be pulling the trigger on a little project I've wanted for a long time: an extension off the side of our living room. 18x20', two-storey, vaulted ceiling, deck, porch. Two small bed/office rooms below. French doors onto the deck, windows on both other sides. Passage cut on one side of our existing fireplace. Free standing wood stove in the new addition, along with a nice ceiling fan. Styled to roughly match the rest of the 70's house, but with Craftsman influences where we can get away with them. Just like the 6-car garage addition, rule #1 is to make it look like it was always there. There are a few complications, the worst is that we'll have to move the power feed to the house. We'll also have to cut down one of the two big blue spruces in the yard. (I plan to use the top for our Christmas tree, it'll be the best-looking tree we've had by far. [We get them off our property every year.]) The bid is $97k. Opinions? The contractor is recently returned to the area, he used to do chores for the previous owner. His dad still lives across the road. My jokes to SWMBA about having room to park another car under the deck didn't seem to go over very well. We just transplanted the rose my deceased mother planted by the entryway, and the never-happy blackberries she also gave me that I've been hoping will grow. They're not the usual giant Washington car-eating blackberries, these are smaller with a very good flavor. Supposedly. They've never fruited, never even grown in ten or so years. But they're not dead yet, either. Unless I just killed them. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Jim Around here they always talk in cost per sq ft, makes it easy to compare. Harry - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing Yeah, don't push that too hard. With a 6-car garage, you shouldn't have to. Besides, it sounds like it's your wife's turn for something nice. Eight-car garage. Did I imply the house didn't have a garage before I put on the extension? :-) Even so we've got as many cars outside as in, right now. She does get something nice: empty space with none of my crap in it. A bigger deck. A bigger entryway. And a porch. And the opportunity to furnish/decorate it at her whim. Along with choosing new carpet for the house as well. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing
And pay only for what's BEEN done. Wilton Absolutely. The subs will ask for money on Friday night with a story about the kids need shoes and food, haven't eaten for two weeks etc. Be hard with the money. Always hold back what it will cost to finish their job plus 15%. Be hard with the money. BTDT. Be hard with the money. Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing
And pay for only what's BEEN done. Wilton - Original Message - From: harry watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing And pay only for what's BEEN done. Wilton Absolutely. The subs will ask for money on Friday night with a story about the kids need shoes and food, haven't eaten for two weeks etc. Be hard with the money. Always hold back what it will cost to finish their job plus 15%. Be hard with the money. BTDT. Be hard with the money. Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
