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Dan wrote: The only thing I can think of is that the bolt head was 16mm, a size I have never seen, nor do I have a wrench or socket in my collection of 30+ years of tools in that size, either. Must have a crummy tool collection. *smiles* My flat wrench set has a 16 mm, my 6 point deep socket set has a 16 mm, but my short socket set does not. As to how often I've used them, I don't seem to retain that information. But 5/8 inch is so close to the same size as 16 mm that for anything but flare nut wrench they are effectively interchangeable. 5/8 inch = 0.625 inch = 15.875 mm. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's Tasks
Parts needed: Quart bottle of favorite gear lube 2 ft. of 5/16 or 3/8 copper tubing 1 through-the-firewall type grommet Sharp drill bit of slightly less than the diameter necessary to fit the inside diameter of the groove in the grommet Cheap coil type tubing bender to fit the copper tubing Tapered reamer of size sufficient to ream out hole Sharpie marker Method: Drill hole in screw top of gear lube bottle Trim off burrs left by drill with file or knife Fit grommet to hole using tapered reamer if necessary. You want a tight fit but no distortion of inside diameter of grommet Cut bottom of tube at 45 degree angle and file off sharp edges Remove grommet and slip over copper tube Put tube and grommet in screw top lid of grease bottle If too tight, slightly enlarge with reamer Push copper tube down into a narrow side of bottle (use empty bottle if possible) Slip tube bender over protruding copper tube Get under car and estimate how much curve you will need for tube to go into fill hole on differential at slight downward angle, and how much excess tube needs to be cut off. Mark bender at proper length of tubing (Sharpie). Bend tubing and remove tubing bender. Transfer mark on tubing bender to tubing. Cut off excess tubing at mark you have made. Check tubing for bits of copper and sharp edges. Screw cap/tubing into bottle of grease, stick tubing in differential, squeeze bottle gently at first since grease can come out fast depending on size of tubing. If curve on tubing is not quite right, slide tubing bender back on and correct it. Slip piece of plugged rubber fuel tubing over end of copper tube to keep it clean. I've had two of these for many years; one for diffs, and the other for manual transmissions. Sometimes you don't get a tight fit the first time and have to do it over, but the parts are cheap and it's a useful maintainence-free tool. Gerry clay wrote: I got a bottle of Castrol that came with a pump do-hickey so you just screw on the pump to a fresh bottle and feed the hose into the fill hole. Pump away until you cramp up and stop when the goo begins to seep out the fill hole. This, after spilling more than I filled on a few previous cars. I got it for Frosch three years ago. clay If I did differentials enough I would - that’s a great idea! I’ve already got one garden sprayer set up as a brake system speed bleeder. While it’s really handy when I need it, it takes up a lot of storage space. Dan Rick Knoble wrote: 1. Buy a garden sprayer. 2. Cut the nozzle off. 3. Fill with gear lube. 4. Pressurize sprayer. 5. Squeeze trigger. 6. Fill differential. 7. Clean up. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I’m sure they do, and I did. I mentioned that in my post. Thanks, Dan On Jul 3, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 16mm wrenches to exist, but try 5/8 in SAE. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff via Mercedes Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 5:50 AM To: Okie Benz Cc: Dan Penoff Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's Tasks I checked the threads. They were metric. The only thing I can think of is that the bolt head was 16mm, a size I have never seen, nor do I have a wrench or socket in my collection of 30+ years of tools in that size, either. Dan On Jul 3, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I wonder if someone replaced those bolts with 'merican hardware? Jiffy lube? Maybe that was Chrysler's contribution, same mount / transmission is used in a Chrysler product? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 2, 2015 8:56:23 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What I found weird was that the bolt heads for the two big bolts that go into the transmission case are 5/8”, not 17mm like on every other MB I’ve ever done this on. Strange. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's Tasks
16mm wrenches to exist, but try 5/8 in SAE. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff via Mercedes Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 5:50 AM To: Okie Benz Cc: Dan Penoff Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's Tasks I checked the threads. They were metric. The only thing I can think of is that the bolt head was 16mm, a size I have never seen, nor do I have a wrench or socket in my collection of 30+ years of tools in that size, either. Dan On Jul 3, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I wonder if someone replaced those bolts with 'merican hardware? Jiffy lube? Maybe that was Chrysler's contribution, same mount / transmission is used in a Chrysler product? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 2, 2015 8:56:23 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What I found weird was that the bolt heads for the two big bolts that go into the transmission case are 5/8”, not 17mm like on every other MB I’ve ever done this on. Strange. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's Tasks
I got a bottle of Castrol that came with a pump do-hickey so you just screw on the pump to a fresh bottle and feed the hose into the fill hole. Pump away until you cramp up and stop when the goo begins to seep out the fill hole. This, after spilling more than I filled on a few previous cars. I got it for Frosch three years ago. clay On Jul 3, 2015, at 2:52 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: If I did differentials enough I would - that’s a great idea! I’ve already got one garden sprayer set up as a brake system speed bleeder. While it’s really handy when I need it, it takes up a lot of storage space. Dan On Jul 2, 2015, at 9:57 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan writes: I know there are hand pumps you can do it with, but that seems really messy and a hassle. I would be interested to hear if anyone has a better method. 1. Buy a garden sprayer. 2. Cut the nozzle off. 3. Fill with gear lube. 4. Pressurize sprayer. 5. Squeeze trigger. 6. Fill differential. 7. Clean up. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's Tasks
I wonder if someone replaced those bolts with 'merican hardware? Jiffy lube? Maybe that was Chrysler's contribution, same mount / transmission is used in a Chrysler product? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 2, 2015 8:56:23 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What I found weird was that the bolt heads for the two big bolts that go into the transmission case are 5/8”, not 17mm like on every other MB I’ve ever done this on. Strange. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I checked the threads. They were metric. The only thing I can think of is that the bolt head was 16mm, a size I have never seen, nor do I have a wrench or socket in my collection of 30+ years of tools in that size, either. Dan On Jul 3, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I wonder if someone replaced those bolts with 'merican hardware? Jiffy lube? Maybe that was Chrysler's contribution, same mount / transmission is used in a Chrysler product? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 2, 2015 8:56:23 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What I found weird was that the bolt heads for the two big bolts that go into the transmission case are 5/8”, not 17mm like on every other MB I’ve ever done this on. Strange. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If I did differentials enough I would - that’s a great idea! I’ve already got one garden sprayer set up as a brake system speed bleeder. While it’s really handy when I need it, it takes up a lot of storage space. Dan On Jul 2, 2015, at 9:57 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan writes: I know there are hand pumps you can do it with, but that seems really messy and a hassle. I would be interested to hear if anyone has a better method. 1. Buy a garden sprayer. 2. Cut the nozzle off. 3. Fill with gear lube. 4. Pressurize sprayer. 5. Squeeze trigger. 6. Fill differential. 7. Clean up. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dan writes: I know there are hand pumps you can do it with, but that seems really messy and a hassle. I would be interested to hear if anyone has a better method. 1. Buy a garden sprayer. 2. Cut the nozzle off. 3. Fill with gear lube. 4. Pressurize sprayer. 5. Squeeze trigger. 6. Fill differential. 7. Clean up. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Today's Tasks
Wanted to drain and refill the differential on the W220 (S430) so I figured I would do it after I got home, since the differential would be nice a toasty from the drive. On a whim I picked up a transmission (rear engine) mount while at the dealer today, since I keep reading about how these cars can be hard on mounts. My engine mounts look good and there’s no twisting or torquing of the engine from what I can see, so I don’t see a need to mess with the front ones for now. Got the differential done without incident. I wish there was a better way of filing it, as I rigged a piece of clear plastic tubing on the nozzle cap of a bottle a few years ago and keep that handy. I get the bottle inverted up in the wheel well or somewhere it can be at or above the differential and just squeeze the crap out of it to force the oil out. I know there are hand pumps you can do it with, but that seems really messy and a hassle. I would be interested to hear if anyone has a better method. Moved to the front of the car and got it in the air. Used the pneumatic suspension to raise it a few more inches, which is nice as I barely had enough room to get under the car on the ramps. Bottom mount bolt were easy, but the side bolts that go into the transmission case were a bit of a PITA. They’re angled down, so to be able to get a socket on them you have to loosen the bottom mount bolts and raise the transmission up with your jack. Once this is done you can get on them pretty easy. What I found weird was that the bolt heads for the two big bolts that go into the transmission case are 5/8”, not 17mm like on every other MB I’ve ever done this on. Strange. Anyway, got new mount in and everything started with a nice coat of thread locking compound on all the fasteners. After settling the mount, I had to use a 3/8” universal to get on the big side bolts, the bottom ones were easy. Close inspection showed that the old mount was beginning to shear off between the rubber and the center support part. Didn’t look like it was close to failure or anything, but it was coming apart. So, since I had planned on doing this tomorrow, I now have nothing to do tomorrow except to continue laying paint on the replacement bumper I got for the S420. Hopefully the weather will cooperate…. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
