Re: [MBZ] W123 - parts

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Yes, I went through the same drill with my Euro wagon, an 85 non-turbo, which 
had no AC.  Had to replace front springs, it had version for USA turbo car 
which were too strong so the front end was too high.  I determined that my 
wagon needed same front springs as a USA 240D, so I got a set of those, and all 
was good.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

On September 13, 2019 6:39:54 PM EDT, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Max wrote:
>> You need to check in the FSM for the section with the survey on
>suspension
>> springs, calculate which spring is right for your car.
>
>For euro import car?  Like the slave cylinder - standard part for USA
>car did not work.  Transmission, AC, sunroof, etc seems probable the
>same USA versus euro import.  Stu was saying the 250 engine parts are
>NLA, period.  Sure they make special order parts from scratch but that
>is not what I want.
>Thanks, Max.
>tin.man
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Re: [MBZ] W123 - parts

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

-D wrote:
> Choosing springs is a tricky thing, and best left to a competent dealer parts 
> person or maybe Tom at the Classic Center if you don’t know what you’re doing 
> and/or don’t have the factory manuals.

I have manuals printed for USA cars but springs may not be
differentiated between USA versus euro?  Do you have access to VIN
specific data?  This is '84 240D VIN
WDB1A151645123123

Thanks.
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] W123 - parts

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Max wrote:
> You need to check in the FSM for the section with the survey on suspension
> springs, calculate which spring is right for your car.

For euro import car?  Like the slave cylinder - standard part for USA
car did not work.  Transmission, AC, sunroof, etc seems probable the
same USA versus euro import.  Stu was saying the 250 engine parts are
NLA, period.  Sure they make special order parts from scratch but that
is not what I want.
Thanks, Max.
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] W123 - parts

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Choosing springs is a tricky thing, and best left to a competent dealer parts 
person or maybe Tom at the Classic Center if you don’t know what you’re doing 
and/or don’t have the factory manuals.

For my finnie I think there were no less than eight possibilities for springs, 
although you could immediately eliminate about half of those out of the gate as 
some were for special applications. From there it got down to the version of 
the suspension (early/late) and then the equation for accessories.

You can always see if your springs have paint marks on them, as those are also 
a means of identification. As for spring pads, you should be able to see the 
“burls” (pins) on the sides of them to know which pad thickness to use.

-D



> On Sep 9, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> You need to check in the FSM for the section with the survey on suspension
> springs, calculate which spring is right for your car.  Things like
> automatic vs. manual transmission, AC, sunroof, will determine which spring
> is right.  I don't think euro makes a difference, but less risk overall
> going the dealer / classic center route.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 3:05 PM Mountain Man via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> My '84 euro import 240D required special dealer available slave
>> cylinder years ago.  Rusty sold me a slave cylinder but ClassicCenter
>> said it needed dealer part, so I had to return slave cylinder to
>> Rusty.  How about front springs?  Could euro front springs be
>> different for euro import?  Anyone?  When I get to this repair it
>> seems wise to ask the question first rather than find out bad news
>> while things are taken apart.  Is ClassicCenter or Naperville OEMParts
>> the only means to verify this?  Or does someone at OkieBenz here have
>> resource to compare euro import spring part number with USA spring
>> part number?
>> Thanks, OkieBenz.
>> tin
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Re: [MBZ] W123 - parts

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

You need to check in the FSM for the section with the survey on suspension
springs, calculate which spring is right for your car.  Things like
automatic vs. manual transmission, AC, sunroof, will determine which spring
is right.  I don't think euro makes a difference, but less risk overall
going the dealer / classic center route.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 3:05 PM Mountain Man via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> My '84 euro import 240D required special dealer available slave
> cylinder years ago.  Rusty sold me a slave cylinder but ClassicCenter
> said it needed dealer part, so I had to return slave cylinder to
> Rusty.  How about front springs?  Could euro front springs be
> different for euro import?  Anyone?  When I get to this repair it
> seems wise to ask the question first rather than find out bad news
> while things are taken apart.  Is ClassicCenter or Naperville OEMParts
> the only means to verify this?  Or does someone at OkieBenz here have
> resource to compare euro import spring part number with USA spring
> part number?
> Thanks, OkieBenz.
> tin
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[MBZ] W123 - parts

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

My '84 euro import 240D required special dealer available slave
cylinder years ago.  Rusty sold me a slave cylinder but ClassicCenter
said it needed dealer part, so I had to return slave cylinder to
Rusty.  How about front springs?  Could euro front springs be
different for euro import?  Anyone?  When I get to this repair it
seems wise to ask the question first rather than find out bad news
while things are taken apart.  Is ClassicCenter or Naperville OEMParts
the only means to verify this?  Or does someone at OkieBenz here have
resource to compare euro import spring part number with USA spring
part number?
Thanks, OkieBenz.
tin

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Just got an email from CarParts.com  on the new W123 
taillight lens for $68.  They said it’s on order and should show up in 3-4 
days.  Heh.  They also referenced Lokey Mercedes, who is the dealer over in 
Pinellas County (St. Pete.) Interesting.

Dan


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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

On ebay for $45 - 50.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR1.TRC0.A0.H0.Xmercedes+123+tail+light+right.TRS0&_nkw=mercedes+123+tail+light+right&_sacat=0

On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:02 AM, Jon Agne via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Do you have a right door mirror glass?
>
> Jon
>
>
> > On Nov 22, 2016, at 10:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have sold tons of those over the years, not sure if I have any left
> but if you have some local for that price I would just go that route
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Nov 22, 2016, at 9:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Got a good right real taillight that’s not cracked or broken?  How much
> shipped?
> >>
> >> I just looked at Car-Part.com and there are at least 7 of them within
> 10 miles of me!  Prices are $50-$75.
> >>
> >> Amazing.  I had no idea there were any knackers around here with old
> cars - LKQ is the big player and they don’t have spit.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Nov 22, 2016, at 9:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I have a shit load of 123 parts, an absolute shit load.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Jon Agne via Mercedes]

Do you have a right door mirror glass?

Jon


> On Nov 22, 2016, at 10:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have sold tons of those over the years, not sure if I have any left but if 
> you have some local for that price I would just go that route 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 22, 2016, at 9:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Got a good right real taillight that’s not cracked or broken?  How much 
>> shipped?
>> 
>> I just looked at Car-Part.com and there are at least 7 of them within 10 
>> miles of me!  Prices are $50-$75.
>> 
>> Amazing.  I had no idea there were any knackers around here with old cars - 
>> LKQ is the big player and they don’t have spit.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 22, 2016, at 9:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a shit load of 123 parts, an absolute shit load. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I rest my case.

Dan


> On Nov 22, 2016, at 11:33 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> 
> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> November 22, 2016 at 10:18 PM
>> Probably not
>> 
> That is a shame.
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

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Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
November 22, 2016 at 10:18 PM
Probably not


That is a shame.
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Probably not

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 22, 2016, at 10:17 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> But that was not the question.  Do you have a right taillight you can lay 
> hands on within a couple days?  (and ship by Sat)
> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> November 22, 2016 at 8:45 PM
>> I have a shit load of 123 parts, an absolute shit load.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

But that was not the question.  Do you have a right taillight you can 
lay hands on within a couple days?  (and ship by Sat)



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
November 22, 2016 at 8:45 PM
I have a shit load of 123 parts, an absolute shit load.

Sent from my iPhone




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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I have sold tons of those over the years, not sure if I have any left but if 
you have some local for that price I would just go that route 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 22, 2016, at 9:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Got a good right real taillight that’s not cracked or broken?  How much 
> shipped?
> 
> I just looked at Car-Part.com and there are at least 7 of them within 10 
> miles of me!  Prices are $50-$75.
> 
> Amazing.  I had no idea there were any knackers around here with old cars - 
> LKQ is the big player and they don’t have spit.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 22, 2016, at 9:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have a shit load of 123 parts, an absolute shit load. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Got a good right real taillight that’s not cracked or broken?  How much shipped?

I just looked at Car-Part.com and there are at least 7 of them within 10 miles 
of me!  Prices are $50-$75.

Amazing.  I had no idea there were any knackers around here with old cars - LKQ 
is the big player and they don’t have spit.

Dan





> On Nov 22, 2016, at 9:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a shit load of 123 parts, an absolute shit load. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I have a shit load of 123 parts, an absolute shit load. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 22, 2016, at 8:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Kleb doesn’t have anything that old to the best of my knowledge and I would 
> prefer to be able to get it sometime in this decade as well.  If by some 
> bizarre fluke I can get a new one for $68 shipped, I’ll do it, even if it 
> ends up being a URO brand part.  Short of falling apart in a few years from 
> being cheap Chinee plastic, what’s the worst thing that could happen?
> 
> Speaking of cheap Chinee plastic, I noticed that URO has cornered the market 
> on headlight doors and raised the prices accordingly,  They’re up to about 
> $75/each now.  Fortunately, mine are still in passable shape.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Nov 22, 2016, at 9:19 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> K'leb?   Car-part.com?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Kleb doesn’t have anything that old to the best of my knowledge and I would 
prefer to be able to get it sometime in this decade as well.  If by some 
bizarre fluke I can get a new one for $68 shipped, I’ll do it, even if it ends 
up being a URO brand part.  Short of falling apart in a few years from being 
cheap Chinee plastic, what’s the worst thing that could happen?

Speaking of cheap Chinee plastic, I noticed that URO has cornered the market on 
headlight doors and raised the prices accordingly,  They’re up to about 
$75/each now.  Fortunately, mine are still in passable shape.

Dan


> On Nov 22, 2016, at 9:19 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> K'leb?   Car-part.com?
> 


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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

K'leb?   Car-part.com?


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
November 22, 2016 at 5:38 PM
Anyone have a right rear taillight lens for a W123?

While disassembling my car, I found that the PO tried to “seal” cracks 
in the right rear taillight lens using RTV. And not well, I might add. 
Looks like the lens took a minor hit or push and cracked at the joint 
between the red and yellow sections. I see nothing that would indicate 
any incursion of water so I’m assuming they were aware of the problem 
and were trying to be proactive.


Part number should be 123 820 32 66.

I’ll have to order a seal as well, as they smeared a fair amount of 
RTV on it, too, making it a real mess. Fortunately I was able to clean 
almost all of it off the seal and lens.


Dan


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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Thanks for checking, Dwight.  Being the dry season here, it’s not a critical 
issue.

I found a new one at Part.com for $68.00, which I’m sure is wrong, as dealer 
list is $146.00.  Just for grins I ordered it to see if they would rescind the 
order.  We’ll see in the morning once a live person can check the order.

I’ll buy a new seal as they’re cheap and not something I would take chances 
with.

Again, thanks!

Dan


> On Nov 22, 2016, at 7:00 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dan,
> I might. I have to check r & L when we get back after thanksgiving. I have
> 3 or 4 but not sure about side. Might have seal.
> Dwight
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 2005 E320 4 matic
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Dan,
I might. I have to check r & L when we get back after thanksgiving. I have
3 or 4 but not sure about side. Might have seal.
Dwight

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
2005 E320 4 matic
Wickford RI

On Nov 22, 2016 6:39 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Anyone have a right rear taillight lens for a W123?
>
> While disassembling my car, I found that the PO tried to “seal” cracks in
> the right rear taillight lens using RTV.  And not well, I might add.  Looks
> like the lens took a minor hit or push and cracked at the joint between the
> red and yellow sections.  I see nothing that would indicate any incursion
> of water so I’m assuming they were aware of the problem and were trying to
> be proactive.
>
> Part number should be 123 820 32 66.
>
> I’ll have to order a seal as well, as they smeared a fair amount of RTV on
> it, too, making it a real mess.  Fortunately I was able to clean almost all
> of it off the seal and lens.
>
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[MBZ] W123 Parts

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Anyone have a right rear taillight lens for a W123?

While disassembling my car, I found that the PO tried to “seal” cracks in the 
right rear taillight lens using RTV.  And not well, I might add.  Looks like 
the lens took a minor hit or push and cracked at the joint between the red and 
yellow sections.  I see nothing that would indicate any incursion of water so 
I’m assuming they were aware of the problem and were trying to be proactive.

Part number should be 123 820 32 66.

I’ll have to order a seal as well, as they smeared a fair amount of RTV on it, 
too, making it a real mess.  Fortunately I was able to clean almost all of it 
off the seal and lens.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

My 78 300TD came with a cast iron style check strap mechanism that
eventually broke (lose pieces in the door).  I replaced them with a stamped
steel version (style with the big ball bearings) which were fine as long as
the lube lasted.  Also, cleaning and fresh lube usually brought the stamped
style back to life even after they rusted.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of clay
> via Mercedes
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:01 PM
> 
> I am assuming the door checks are the same for the bulk of the cars from
the
> /8 to the 126.  At least from the box of the dang things I collected over
the
> years.  Sadly, I sold all my parts last spring for no money.   If I find
some when I
> hit the PnP I can share.
> 
> clay
> 
> > On Nov 15, 2016, at 7:16 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >
> > Finding my way through a few parts I need.
> >
> > Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist
> in the aftermarket.
> >
> > 123 730 03 16
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dan
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[clay via Mercedes]

The rears I pulled had two positions besides closed.

clay

> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:15 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> They are different part numbers. Some people claim that the rears don't have 
> a partial detent in the travel like the driver's door does, but I haven't 
> substantiated this.
> 
> The fronts are still available, but they're stupid money from the Mothership, 
> nearly $250/each.  No doubt the impetus for URO to make cheap knock-offs to 
> take advantage of the market.
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:06 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Weird. When I bought Dwight's 240D I think I replaced almost all the door 
>> checks.
>> Actually as I think back I replaced them all on the '83 240D, any I put into 
>> the '78 probably came from the '83...
>> -Curt
>> 
>> From: Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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>> Cc: "d...@penoff.com" <d...@penoff.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:04 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
>> 
>> NLA from the Classic Center, too.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I need one as well. Drivers side rear. 
>>> 
>>> Michael E. Esh
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Finding my way through a few parts I need.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in 
>>>> the aftermarket.
>>>> 
>>>> 123 730 03 16
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Dan
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[clay via Mercedes]

URO might be ok as long as you add moly lube really thick to the thing.  Polei 
had some uro crap that was busted to hell.  The things were dry as could be.  I 
pulled straps from PnP and lubed them up before putting them in.  The factory 
goo was aged, the URO never had lube

clay


> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> In this case I'm not sure a URO would be the end of the world, they're not 
> that hard to change and give lots of warning before impending failure. IIRC 
> Jim Cathey had a way to fix them if they weren't too failed...
> -Curt
> 
>  From: Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> Cc: "d...@penoff.com" <d...@penoff.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
> 
> They are different part numbers. Some people claim that the rears don't have 
> a partial detent in the travel like the driver's door does, but I haven't 
> substantiated this.
> 
> The fronts are still available, but they're stupid money from the Mothership, 
> nearly $250/each.  No doubt the impetus for URO to make cheap knock-offs to 
> take advantage of the market.
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:06 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Weird. When I bought Dwight's 240D I think I replaced almost all the door 
>> checks.
>> Actually as I think back I replaced them all on the '83 240D, any I put into 
>> the '78 probably came from the '83...
>> -Curt
>> 
>>   From: Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>> Cc: "d...@penoff.com" <d...@penoff.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:04 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
>> 
>> NLA from the Classic Center, too.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I need one as well. Drivers side rear. 
>>> 
>>> Michael E. Esh
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Finding my way through a few parts I need.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in 
>>>> the aftermarket.
>>>> 
>>>> 123 730 03 16
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Dan
>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[clay via Mercedes]

I am assuming the door checks are the same for the bulk of the cars from the /8 
to the 126.  At least from the box of the dang things I collected over the 
years.  Sadly, I sold all my parts last spring for no money.   If I find some 
when I hit the PnP I can share.

clay

> On Nov 15, 2016, at 7:16 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Finding my way through a few parts I need.
> 
> Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in 
> the aftermarket.
> 
> 123 730 03 16
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dan
> 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I bought a bunch of parts from Sean - nice guy!

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Dan, et al.
>
> http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/5837040639.html
>
> HTH.
>
> Fred
>
>
>
> Fred Moir.
> Lynn MA.
> Diesel preferred.
>
>
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> Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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> Subject: [MBZ] W123 Parts
>
> Finding my way through a few parts I need.
>
> Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in
> the aftermarket.
>
> 123 730 03 16
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I took a quick look tonight, and the door check strap is still there, so I’m 
guessing there’s a good possibility that all the related stuff is there as 
well, but probably in the bottom of the door.

I just happen to have a spare W126 door check - I’ll compare when I remove this 
one to see if they’re the same.

More on tonight’s work after I run a couple of errands.

Dan


> On Nov 15, 2016, at 6:32 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 123, 124, 126: Steel, and big sliding UNLUBRICATED BB's; seizes
> 
> The balls are 15mm dia and can be ordered online 10 at a time.
> 
> In all but the FL POS, I have been able to rebuild them, slather them full of 
> Molykote BR2 gun grease, and NEVER have a failure again.  I had new ones fail 
> in under a year.  (a few months)   Some on the FL POS were so badly mangled I 
> had to throw them out, and the salvageable ones had balls missing.
> 
>> Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
>> November 15, 2016 at 10:36 AM
>> With the exception of the 107 door checks, which are _awesome_, I don't see
>> how URO could really make them any worse than the DBAG's did. Never had to
>> replace a 107 door check, on any of the five that I've owned.
>> 
>> 107: Steel, and rollers; bulletproof
>> 115: Pot metal, and rollers; breaks
>> 123: Steel, and big sliding BB's; seizes
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I've got one from a 201 if somebody wants it...
-Curt

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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
   
Aren't they the same as a 126?  (without the cover) 110/111 on should 
bolt in.  different spring/stop mechanism, but interchangeable.  I think 
maybe 210 on might bolt in too.    Last I knew, new ones were available.

> Dan--- via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> November 15, 2016 at 9:16 AM
> Finding my way through a few parts I need.
>
> Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't 
> exist in the aftermarket.
>
> 123 730 03 16
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
>

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

123, 124, 126: Steel, and big sliding UNLUBRICATED BB's; seizes

The balls are 15mm dia and can be ordered online 10 at a time.

In all but the FL POS, I have been able to rebuild them, slather them 
full of Molykote BR2 gun grease, and NEVER have a failure again.  I had 
new ones fail in under a year.  (a few months)   Some on the FL POS were 
so badly mangled I had to throw them out, and the salvageable ones had 
balls missing.



Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
November 15, 2016 at 10:36 AM
With the exception of the 107 door checks, which are _awesome_, I 
don't see

how URO could really make them any worse than the DBAG's did. Never had to
replace a 107 door check, on any of the five that I've owned.

107: Steel, and rollers; bulletproof
115: Pot metal, and rollers; breaks
123: Steel, and big sliding BB's; seizes


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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Stupid Crypsler people!  They taught MB to rip off for parts so people 
junk perfectly good cars.



Dan--- via Mercedes 
November 15, 2016 at 10:15 AM
They are different part numbers. Some people claim that the rears 
don't have a partial detent in the travel like the driver's door does, 
but I haven't substantiated this.


The fronts are still available, but they're stupid money from the 
Mothership, nearly $250/each. No doubt the impetus for URO to make 
cheap knock-offs to take advantage of the market.


Dan

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Aren't they the same as a 126?  (without the cover) 110/111 on should 
bolt in.  different spring/stop mechanism, but interchangeable.  I think 
maybe 210 on might bolt in too.Last I knew, new ones were available.



Dan--- via Mercedes 
November 15, 2016 at 9:16 AM
Finding my way through a few parts I need.

Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't 
exist in the aftermarket.


123 730 03 16

Thanks,

Dan



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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Its hard to slight somebody raising the price on something nobody else seems to 
want to sell. He's got to stock the item and hope he can sell enough of them to 
make a profit. After all you could always buy a couple thousand and play the 
game yourself.
In the end yeah he's doubled the price but on the other hand its still just 
$30...
-Curt

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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
   
Yeah, that's good old Ken - put out information that's readily available and 
charge exorbitant amounts for parts far cheaper elsewhere.

Gotta hand it to him, though, he's done a good job of marketing. And he's the 
only place you can get Monarch injector nozzles in the US.

Dan

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> On Nov 15, 2016, at 3:17 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
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> https://mercedessource.com/store/1980-1985-123-chassis-sedan-and-wagon-aftermarket-rear-door-check-strap
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Yeah, that's good old Ken - put out information that's readily available and 
charge exorbitant amounts for parts far cheaper elsewhere.

Gotta hand it to him, though, he's done a good job of marketing. And he's the 
only place you can get Monarch injector nozzles in the US.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

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https://mercedessource.com/store/1980-1985-123-chassis-sedan-and-wagon-aftermarket-rear-door-check-strap

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Dan, et al.

http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/5837040639.html

HTH.

Fred



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Subject: [MBZ] W123 Parts

Finding my way through a few parts I need.

Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in the 
aftermarket.

123 730 03 16

Thanks,

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Think of all the wear and tear they are subjected to.  If the front don't
fit head to the nearest Mercedes graveyard.

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> I took one apart and cleaned/greased it; and maybe also repaired it years
> ago, but I don't remember the details. I remember that they were tricky to
> take apart and put back together.
> Gerry
>
> > In this case I'm not sure a URO would be the end of the world, they're
> not that hard to change and give lots of warning before impending failure.
> IIRC Jim Cathey had a way to fix them if they weren't too failed...
> > -Curt
> >
> >   From: Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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> > Cc: "d...@penoff.com" <d...@penoff.com>
> >  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:15 AM
> >  Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
> >
> > They are different part numbers. Some people claim that the rears don't
> have a partial detent in the travel like the driver's door does, but I
> haven't substantiated this.
> >
> > The fronts are still available, but they're stupid money from the
> Mothership, nearly $250/each.  No doubt the impetus for URO to make cheap
> knock-offs to take advantage of the market.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > > On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:06 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Weird. When I bought Dwight's 240D I think I replaced almost all the
> door checks.
> > > Actually as I think back I replaced them all on the '83 240D, any I
> put into the '78 probably came from the '83...
> > > -Curt
> > >
> > >  From: Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > > Cc: "d...@penoff.com" <d...@penoff.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:04 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
> > >
> > > NLA from the Classic Center, too.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > >> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I need one as well. Drivers side rear.
> > >>
> > >> Michael E. Esh
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Finding my way through a few parts I need.
> > >>>
> > >>> Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't
> exist in the aftermarket.
> > >>>
> > >>> 123 730 03 16
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>>
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

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I took one apart and cleaned/greased it; and maybe also repaired it years ago, 
but I don't remember the details. I remember that they were tricky to take 
apart and put back together.
Gerry

> In this case I'm not sure a URO would be the end of the world, they're not 
> that hard to change and give lots of warning before impending failure. IIRC 
> Jim Cathey had a way to fix them if they weren't too failed...
> -Curt
> 
>   From: Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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> Cc: "d...@penoff.com" <d...@penoff.com>
>  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:15 AM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
>
> They are different part numbers. Some people claim that the rears don't have 
> a partial detent in the travel like the driver's door does, but I haven't 
> substantiated this.
> 
> The fronts are still available, but they're stupid money from the Mothership, 
> nearly $250/each.  No doubt the impetus for URO to make cheap knock-offs to 
> take advantage of the market.
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:06 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Weird. When I bought Dwight's 240D I think I replaced almost all the door 
> > checks.
> > Actually as I think back I replaced them all on the '83 240D, any I put 
> > into the '78 probably came from the '83...
> > -Curt
> > 
> >      From: Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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> > Cc: "d...@penoff.com" <d...@penoff.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:04 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
> > 
> > NLA from the Classic Center, too.
> > 
> > Dan
> > 
> > Sent from my iPad
> > 
> >> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
> >> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> I need one as well. Drivers side rear. 
> >> 
> >> Michael E. Esh
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Finding my way through a few parts I need.
> >>> 
> >>> Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist 
> >>> in the aftermarket.
> >>> 
> >>> 123 730 03 16
> >>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I never bother to read - exactly like Trump minus the alleged wealth.

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com
> wrote:

> Again, there is some speculation that the fronts may fit the rears. I just
> ordered a URO from the Amazon to see.
>
> I'm not sure Meyle is any better than URO these days. Much of their stuff
> comes out of China.  I avoid it as I do URO.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Nov 15, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Autohaus has German door checks for $16.  Why pay more?
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Both listed are fronts, Dan said rears are NLA.
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>  From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> Cc: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Jim Cathey <
> >> jim.cathey...@gmail.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:45 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
> >>
> >> Available from Autohaus for $16.
> >> http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=
> >> argtyq55co34lh45ns0pmf3i=800016@Mercedes&
> >> modelid=1194320@300TDT=1983=door@door=11406@Door
> Check/Stop
> >> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> With the exception of the 107 door checks, which are _awesome_, I don't
> see
> >> how URO could really make them any worse than the DBAG's did.  Never
> had to
> >> replace a 107 door check, on any of the five that I've owned.
> >>
> >> 107: Steel, and rollers; bulletproof
> >> 115: Pot metal, and rollers; breaks
> >> 123: Steel, and big sliding BB's; seizes
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Again, there is some speculation that the fronts may fit the rears. I just 
ordered a URO from the Amazon to see.

I'm not sure Meyle is any better than URO these days. Much of their stuff comes 
out of China.  I avoid it as I do URO.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 15, 2016, at 12:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Autohaus has German door checks for $16.  Why pay more?
> 
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Both listed are fronts, Dan said rears are NLA.
>> -Curt
>> 
>>  From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> Cc: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Jim Cathey <
>> jim.cathey...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:45 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
>> 
>> Available from Autohaus for $16.
>> http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=
>> argtyq55co34lh45ns0pmf3i=800016@Mercedes&
>> modelid=1194320@300TDT=1983=door@door=11406@Door Check/Stop
>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> With the exception of the 107 door checks, which are _awesome_, I don't see
>> how URO could really make them any worse than the DBAG's did.  Never had to
>> replace a 107 door check, on any of the five that I've owned.
>> 
>> 107: Steel, and rollers; bulletproof
>> 115: Pot metal, and rollers; breaks
>> 123: Steel, and big sliding BB's; seizes
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Do you not read? FRONT door checks...
Rears are NLA.
-Curt

  From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
 To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 12:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
   
Autohaus has German door checks for $16.  Why pay more?
On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Both listed are fronts, Dan said rears are NLA.
-Curt

      From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Jim Cathey <jim.cathey...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:45 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

Available from Autohaus for $16.
http://www.autohausaz.com/ search/product.aspx?sid= argtyq55co34lh45ns0pmf3i& 
makeid=800016@Mercedes& modelid=1194320@300TDT= 
1983=door@door=11406@ Door Check/Stop
On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

With the exception of the 107 door checks, which are _awesome_, I don't see
how URO could really make them any worse than the DBAG's did.  Never had to
replace a 107 door check, on any of the five that I've owned.

107: Steel, and rollers; bulletproof
115: Pot metal, and rollers; breaks
123: Steel, and big sliding BB's; seizes

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Autohaus has German door checks for $16.  Why pay more?

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Both listed are fronts, Dan said rears are NLA.
> -Curt
>
>   From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Jim Cathey <
> jim.cathey...@gmail.com>
>  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:45 AM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
>
> Available from Autohaus for $16.
> http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=
> argtyq55co34lh45ns0pmf3i=800016@Mercedes&
> modelid=1194320@300TDT=1983=door@door=11406@Door Check/Stop
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> With the exception of the 107 door checks, which are _awesome_, I don't see
> how URO could really make them any worse than the DBAG's did.  Never had to
> replace a 107 door check, on any of the five that I've owned.
>
> 107: Steel, and rollers; bulletproof
> 115: Pot metal, and rollers; breaks
> 123: Steel, and big sliding BB's; seizes
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Both listed are fronts, Dan said rears are NLA.
-Curt

  From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
Cc: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Jim Cathey <jim.cathey...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:45 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
   
Available from Autohaus for $16.
http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=argtyq55co34lh45ns0pmf3i=800016@Mercedes=1194320@300TDT=1983=door@door=11406@Door
 Check/Stop
On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

With the exception of the 107 door checks, which are _awesome_, I don't see
how URO could really make them any worse than the DBAG's did.  Never had to
replace a 107 door check, on any of the five that I've owned.

107: Steel, and rollers; bulletproof
115: Pot metal, and rollers; breaks
123: Steel, and big sliding BB's; seizes

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

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http://www.everythingbenz.com/z/part/1237300316-mercedes-door-check-stop

Dan wrote:
> Finding my way through a few parts I need.
> Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in 
> the aftermarket.
> 
> 123 730 03 16
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

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Available from Autohaus for $16.

http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=argtyq55co34lh45ns0pmf3i=800016@Mercedes=1194320@300TDT=1983=door@door=11406@Door
Check/Stop

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> With the exception of the 107 door checks, which are _awesome_, I don't see
> how URO could really make them any worse than the DBAG's did.  Never had to
> replace a 107 door check, on any of the five that I've owned.
>
> 107: Steel, and rollers; bulletproof
> 115: Pot metal, and rollers; breaks
> 123: Steel, and big sliding BB's; seizes
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

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With the exception of the 107 door checks, which are _awesome_, I don't see
how URO could really make them any worse than the DBAG's did.  Never had to
replace a 107 door check, on any of the five that I've owned.

107: Steel, and rollers; bulletproof
115: Pot metal, and rollers; breaks
123: Steel, and big sliding BB's; seizes

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

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Agreed.

I haven't checked to see if the old one is still in place - I don't think it 
is, as the door swings freely.  Not something I paid a lot of attention to at 
the time.

I know they can be rebuilt, sort of.  I think that's what Jim did, or maybe 
Curly said something about it.

Dan

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> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> In this case I'm not sure a URO would be the end of the world, they're not 
> that hard to change and give lots of warning before impending failure. IIRC 
> Jim Cathey had a way to fix them if they weren't too failed...
> -Curt
> 
>  From: Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> Cc: "d...@penoff.com" <d...@penoff.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:15 AMe 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
> 
> They are different part numbers. Some people claim that the rears don't have 
> a partial detent in the travel like the driver's door does, but I haven't 
> substantiated this.
> 
> The fronts are still available, but they're stupid money from the Mothership, 
> nearly $250/each.  No doubt the impetus for URO to make cheap knock-offs to 
> take advantage of the market.
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:06 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Weird. When I bought Dwight's 240D I think I replaced almost all the door 
>> checks.
>> Actually as I think back I replaced them all on the '83 240D, any I put into 
>> the '78 probably came from the '83...
>> -Curt
>> 
>>   From: Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>> Cc: "d...@penoff.com" <d...@penoff.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:04 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
>> 
>> NLA from the Classic Center, too.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I need one as well. Drivers side rear. 
>>> 
>>> Michael E. Esh
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Finding my way through a few parts I need.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in 
>>>> the aftermarket.
>>>> 
>>>> 123 730 03 16
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Dan
>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

In this case I'm not sure a URO would be the end of the world, they're not that 
hard to change and give lots of warning before impending failure. IIRC Jim 
Cathey had a way to fix them if they weren't too failed...
-Curt

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Cc: "d...@penoff.com" <d...@penoff.com>
 Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:15 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
   
They are different part numbers. Some people claim that the rears don't have a 
partial detent in the travel like the driver's door does, but I haven't 
substantiated this.

The fronts are still available, but they're stupid money from the Mothership, 
nearly $250/each.  No doubt the impetus for URO to make cheap knock-offs to 
take advantage of the market.

Dan

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> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Weird. When I bought Dwight's 240D I think I replaced almost all the door 
> checks.
> Actually as I think back I replaced them all on the '83 240D, any I put into 
> the '78 probably came from the '83...
> -Curt
> 
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
> 
> NLA from the Classic Center, too.
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I need one as well. Drivers side rear. 
>> 
>> Michael E. Esh
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Finding my way through a few parts I need.
>>> 
>>> Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in 
>>> the aftermarket.
>>> 
>>> 123 730 03 16
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

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They are different part numbers. Some people claim that the rears don't have a 
partial detent in the travel like the driver's door does, but I haven't 
substantiated this.

The fronts are still available, but they're stupid money from the Mothership, 
nearly $250/each.  No doubt the impetus for URO to make cheap knock-offs to 
take advantage of the market.

Dan

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> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Weird. When I bought Dwight's 240D I think I replaced almost all the door 
> checks.
> Actually as I think back I replaced them all on the '83 240D, any I put into 
> the '78 probably came from the '83...
> -Curt
> 
>  From: Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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> Cc: "d...@penoff.com" <d...@penoff.com>
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts
> 
> NLA from the Classic Center, too.
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I need one as well. Drivers side rear. 
>> 
>> Michael E. Esh
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Finding my way through a few parts I need.
>>> 
>>> Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in 
>>> the aftermarket.
>>> 
>>> 123 730 03 16
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I've done some research and seen references to the front door check working on 
the rear doors. However, there were also comments about the front door check 
being longer possibly.

As much as I detest the idea, URO sells front door checks for $16.00 on Amazon. 
As I get into this deeper I may throw caution to the wind and get one to see if 
the theory checks out.

Dan

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> I need one as well. Drivers side rear. 
> 
> Michael E. Esh
> 
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Finding my way through a few parts I need.
>> 
>> Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in 
>> the aftermarket.
>> 
>> 123 730 03 16
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Weird. When I bought Dwight's 240D I think I replaced almost all the door 
checks.
Actually as I think back I replaced them all on the '83 240D, any I put into 
the '78 probably came from the '83...
-Curt

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NLA from the Classic Center, too.

Dan

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> 
> I need one as well. Drivers side rear. 
> 
> Michael E. Esh
> 
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Finding my way through a few parts I need.
>> 
>> Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in 
>> the aftermarket.
>> 
>> 123 730 03 16
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

NLA from the Classic Center, too.

Dan

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> On Nov 15, 2016, at 11:00 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
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> I need one as well. Drivers side rear. 
> 
> Michael E. Esh
> 
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
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>> 
>> Finding my way through a few parts I need.
>> 
>> Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in 
>> the aftermarket.
>> 
>> 123 730 03 16
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

I need one as well. Drivers side rear. 

Michael E. Esh


> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
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> Finding my way through a few parts I need.
> 
> Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in 
> the aftermarket.
> 
> 123 730 03 16
> 
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> 
> Dan
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[MBZ] W123 Parts

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Finding my way through a few parts I need.

Anyone have a good rear door check? They're NLA from MB and don't exist in the 
aftermarket.

123 730 03 16

Thanks,

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts 'O' Rama

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

 On June 28, 2015 at 11:00 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
 Cute puppy.
 

Somehow a dog with one ear up and one ear down evokes a positive response, while
the owner probably spent a bunch of time when it was a puppy either trying to
make them both stand up with paper cups or trying to make them go down with
bubble gum. Given the environment, I suspect the owner of this one couldn't care
less. 

There are some choice interior parts there, incredibly choice considering it's
Dallas. 
If it were within driving distance, I'd like to find a W116 with seats like
that. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts 'O' Rama

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So where did you come up with this?

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 wrote:
 
 Check this out somewhere around Dallas:
 
 https://plus.google.com/photos/103139691827795148715/albums/6090928933748274865
  
 https://plus.google.com/photos/103139691827795148715/albums/6090928933748274865
 
 You can catch the tent revival while you’re there…. I’ll take the Nardi wheel 
 in the back of the cream colored 300TD.
 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts 'O' Rama

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Pretty tough seller when he keeps a guard dog chained to the diesel
engine.. ;))



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 Check this out somewhere around Dallas:


 https://plus.google.com/photos/103139691827795148715/albums/6090928933748274865
 
 https://plus.google.com/photos/103139691827795148715/albums/6090928933748274865
 

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[MBZ] W123 Parts 'O' Rama

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Check this out somewhere around Dallas:

https://plus.google.com/photos/103139691827795148715/albums/6090928933748274865 
https://plus.google.com/photos/103139691827795148715/albums/6090928933748274865

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts 'O' Rama

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

You sure that's not Kleb's new place?  Maybe he got a new job traveling 
around doing revivals.  He'll be living like Brother Tilton soon!


--R



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Check this out somewhere around Dallas:

https://plus.google.com/photos/103139691827795148715/albums/6090928933748274865 
https://plus.google.com/photos/103139691827795148715/albums/6090928933748274865

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Re: [MBZ] W123 Parts 'O' Rama

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Cute puppy.

On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 So where did you come up with this?

 Sent from my iPhone

  On Jun 28, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Check this out somewhere around Dallas:
 
 
 https://plus.google.com/photos/103139691827795148715/albums/6090928933748274865
 
 https://plus.google.com/photos/103139691827795148715/albums/6090928933748274865
 
 
  You can catch the tent revival while you’re there…. I’ll take the Nardi
 wheel in the back of the cream colored 300TD.
 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

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My brother had the same experience this spring when some idiot pulled  
out in front of my niece and ripped the left headlight and fender up  
on the 300E.  Initial offer was $1600 and dumpster the car, my brother  
vigorously objected, and they eventually admitted a comparable car in  
similar condition (very nice, fairly low milage) was much higher.


They could only find a single example for sale nation wide at the  
time, in Califormia, for $6500.


Finally cut him a check for $3000 and he fixed it himself, no salvage  
title (which they insisted they could issue.  I don't think so, the  
State of Indiana issues tittles here).


Fight the bastards.  I personally think issuing lowball offers of  
insurance payments when the company is covering an insured at fault  
should result in s substantial jail time and large fine fraud felony  
conviction, but the insurance industry obviously has the ear of  
legislators.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Agreed.  As we've all heard of or dealt with similar situations over the years, 
it's crazy to accept their initial offer.  Do your due diligence and find as 
much supporting documentation that you can.  We have so many great resources 
available to us today that it's crazy to accept their offer unless you know 
it's fair.  They're going to go to the books, which often have limited or no 
information, making their offers ridiculously low.  What they won't tell you is 
that Black Book values are often well above what they will offer - you can get 
Black Book values from your bank or credit union.  BB used to be Cars of 
Particular Interest, a great resource I used to subscribe to when they used to 
offer the service to consumers.  It's based on wholesale auction data, so it's 
very relevant and accurate.

If you have proof of sales that support your numbers they're going to push back 
a lot less, so it appears.

Their biggest concern is closing out the claim and getting it off the books.  
In other words, how little will it take to make you go away?

Dan

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 My brother had the same experience this spring when some idiot pulled out in 
 front of my niece and ripped the left headlight and fender up on the 300E.  
 Initial offer was $1600 and dumpster the car, my brother vigorously objected, 
 and they eventually admitted a comparable car in similar condition (very 
 nice, fairly low milage) was much higher.
 
 They could only find a single example for sale nation wide at the time, in 
 Califormia, for $6500.
 
 Finally cut him a check for $3000 and he fixed it himself, no salvage title 
 (which they insisted they could issue.  I don't think so, the State of 
 Indiana issues tittles here).
 
 Fight the bastards.  I personally think issuing lowball offers of insurance 
 payments when the company is covering an insured at fault should result in s 
 substantial jail time and large fine fraud felony conviction, but the 
 insurance industry obviously has the ear of legislators.
 
 Peter
 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Kelley Blue Book on-line is a good resource -- they list a 1987 300E  
as retailing between $4000 and $9500 depending on condition, and in a  
case of accident damage they owe you the RETAIL (replacement) cost,  
not the WHOLESALE (trade-in) value of the car, since their insured  
damaged YOUR car through no fault of your own.


They try that dodge too.  Offered me $1500 for my 300D eight years ago  
when some dimbulb ran a stop light and totaled it.  I laughed, retail  
was 4-6 and it has gone UP since then -- highly desirable car and  
limited supply.


Most auto adjusters are clueless about the value of a Benz, they  
rarely encounter one, it's almost exclusively Detroit of Japanese  
disposable cars.


And I guess  most people don't care if they are getting screwed, or  
they would do something about it.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
Kelley Blue Book on-line is a good resource -- they list a 1987 300E as 
retailing between $4000 and $9500 depending on condition, and in a case 
of accident damage they owe you the RETAIL (replacement) cost, not the 
WHOLESALE (trade-in) value of the car, since their insured damaged YOUR 
car through no fault of your own.


Don't forget tax/title/registration (or transfer of your existing registration).
If they give you what a dealer would charge out the door for the car, less your 
deductible, then you should take their first offer. It just doesn't happen as 
often as it should.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

People would be on crack to pay that much for a 300e. Btw, in the car business 
wholesale and trade in are 2 different things.

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 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Kelley Blue Book on-line is a good resource -- they list a 1987 300E as 
 retailing between $4000 and $9500 depending on condition, and in a case of 
 accident damage they owe you the RETAIL (replacement) cost, not the WHOLESALE 
 (trade-in) value of the car, since their insured damaged YOUR car through no 
 fault of your own.
 
 They try that dodge too.  Offered me $1500 for my 300D eight years ago when 
 some dimbulb ran a stop light and totaled it.  I laughed, retail was 4-6 and 
 it has gone UP since then -- highly desirable car and limited supply.
 
 Most auto adjusters are clueless about the value of a Benz, they rarely 
 encounter one, it's almost exclusively Detroit of Japanese disposable cars.
 
 And I guess  most people don't care if they are getting screwed, or they 
 would do something about it.
 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

‎Original Message  
From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 2:03 PM
To: Peter Frederick; Mercedes Discussion List
Reply To: Kaleb C. Striplin
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

  Btw, in the car business wholesale and trade in are 2 different things.

Please elaborate for those of us not in the know. ‎

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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Wholesale price is where a dealer buys a car from another dealer wholesale, or 
more specifically a wholesaler goes to franchise store and buys their trades 
and sells them wholesale to another independent store. Trade in price is when a 
customer is trading in their car for another car either at a franchise store or 
independent. The wholesale price is usually more than the trade amount.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 27, 2014, at 2:11 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
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 ‎Original Message  
 From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
 Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 2:03 PM
 To: Peter Frederick; Mercedes Discussion List
 Reply To: Kaleb C. Striplin
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 parts
 
   Btw, in the car business wholesale and trade in are 2 different things.
 
 Please elaborate for those of us not in the know. ‎
 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

[John Reames via Mercedes]

I got in a wreck weds eve...

Trying to figure out whether they'd total it..

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On Jul 25, 2014, at 14:00, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
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 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:48:19 -0400
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: [MBZ] W123 parts
 From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
 Any ideas what I'd be looking at in parts--
 123.133, hood, grille, driver fender, metal behind grille, drivers lamps, 
 condenser, radiator, etc.
 
 Strangely enough I have a oil cooler.
 
 
 Are you looking to sell said parts or purchase? 
 I know someone asked already, but I don't recall the answer...
 And I could use said parts for I wrecked one I own...
 
 Rick
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Ouch.  List people are savvy on how to deal with the insurance vultures.


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 I got in a wreck weds eve...

 Trying to figure out whether they'd total it..

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 On Jul 25, 2014, at 14:00, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:

  Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:48:19 -0400
  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Subject: [MBZ] W123 parts
  From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
  Any ideas what I'd be looking at in parts--
  123.133, hood, grille, driver fender, metal behind grille, drivers
 lamps, condenser, radiator, etc.
 
  Strangely enough I have a oil cooler.
 
 
  Are you looking to sell said parts or purchase?
  I know someone asked already, but I don't recall the answer...
  And I could use said parts for I wrecked one I own...
 
  Rick
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

[Gary Hurst via Mercedes]

they are quick to total.  you try to get as much as you can from them,
which can be more than their initial offer.  them, if you have any
interest,  you ask them how much they will sell you back the remains for.
then you decide what to do with that.


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 I got in a wreck weds eve...

 Trying to figure out whether they'd total it..

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 On Jul 25, 2014, at 14:00, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:

  Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:48:19 -0400
  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Subject: [MBZ] W123 parts
  From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
  Any ideas what I'd be looking at in parts--
  123.133, hood, grille, driver fender, metal behind grille, drivers
 lamps, condenser, radiator, etc.
 
  Strangely enough I have a oil cooler.
 
 
  Are you looking to sell said parts or purchase?
  I know someone asked already, but I don't recall the answer...
  And I could use said parts for I wrecked one I own...
 
  Rick
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

[clay via Mercedes]

The longer you hold out, the higher the settlement will tend to be.  The rep 
wants to clear the case as swiftly as possible.  If it grinds on, they get 
dinged for being ineffective, and that comes back at bonus time, or job 
longevity.  After a month, they will gladly cut a check for close to what you 
find valuation to be.

I had liberty mutual stomping their peckers trying to get a proper valuation 
for when their insured t boned my car.  First attempt they made was for $4400.  
I said no, and to look further afield for a proper comparable for DIESEL, not 
gas 1995.  There were too few for them to get a statistically happy figure 
after looking nationwide and finding five examples last summer.  In the end, 
they decided $9500 was about right.



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On Jul 26, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote:

 they are quick to total.  you try to get as much as you can from them,
 which can be more than their initial offer.  them, if you have any
 interest,  you ask them how much they will sell you back the remains for.
 then you decide what to do with that.
 
 
 On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 7:21 AM, John Reames via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I got in a wreck weds eve...
 
 Trying to figure out whether they'd total it..
 
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 On Jul 25, 2014, at 14:00, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:48:19 -0400
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: [MBZ] W123 parts
 From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
 Any ideas what I'd be looking at in parts--
 123.133, hood, grille, driver fender, metal behind grille, drivers
 lamps, condenser, radiator, etc.
 
 Strangely enough I have a oil cooler.
 
 
 Are you looking to sell said parts or purchase?
 I know someone asked already, but I don't recall the answer...
 And I could use said parts for I wrecked one I own...
 
 Rick
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:48:19 -0400
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: [MBZ] W123 parts
 From: mercedes@okiebenz.com

 Any ideas what I'd be looking at in parts--
 123.133, hood, grille, driver fender, metal behind grille, drivers lamps, 
 condenser, radiator, etc.

 Strangely enough I have a oil cooler.


Are you looking to sell said parts or purchase? 
I know someone asked already, but I don't recall the answer...
And I could use said parts for I wrecked one I own...

Rick

  
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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Let me know off list exactyl what you need and I promise to lok this
weekend.


On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:48:19 -0400
  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Subject: [MBZ] W123 parts
  From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
  Any ideas what I'd be looking at in parts--
  123.133, hood, grille, driver fender, metal behind grille, drivers
 lamps, condenser, radiator, etc.
 
  Strangely enough I have a oil cooler.


 Are you looking to sell said parts or purchase?
 I know someone asked already, but I don't recall the answer...
 And I could use said parts for I wrecked one I own...

 Rick


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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

[John Reames via Mercedes]

I was asking the group in general; I suspect I may be contributing to the 
availability of parts soon :/

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 On Jul 23, 2014, at 22:45, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you're asking me, I have two spare grilles IIRC and a bunch of palomino 
 door and rear wagon panels 
 
 
 On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 5:48 PM, John Reames via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 Any ideas what I'd be looking at in parts--
 123.133, hood, grille, driver fender, metal behind grille, drivers lamps, 
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 Strangely enough I have a oil cooler.
 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

So you may be selling the afore mentioned parts?

Max Dillon,
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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

This thread causes me to want to share an anecdote. I had a W123 240D that
I had for a short time. Seems like it was just over a year. Had just over
300K on the clock, if memory serves, when the crankshaft broke. So, a local
guy I had been talking to had a W123 300D that was basically nothing but
rust, but a good engine, he was daily driving. My chassis was nearly rust
free, the only rust was in the front quarters really so  good chassis +
good engine = car stays on the road that much longer. Couple months ago I
was in the pull-apart looking for some parts for the Sportage I was driving
and saw a blue W123 chassis, missing two of the doors, the hood and a
quarter panel.

Hmm ... mine was a blue W123, so I had a car just like it.

So for nostalgia I'm looking around it, and see the rip in the seat I did
on accident. The broken place on the dash that mine had ... this was *my*
W123.

So the guy says, after sending him an email, Yeah, it turned out to be too
much trouble so I'm just driving the one I already had.

*sighs*

There is nothing quite like finding the car you had hoped would be fixed,
stripped instead.

On a related note, my truck died last weekend, so I'm suddenly in the
market for a car. Anyone have a decent looking, great running car taking up
too much space in the driveway?

EdB


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mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Any ideas what I'd be looking at in parts--
 123.133, hood, grille, driver fender, metal behind grille, drivers lamps,
 condenser, radiator, etc.

 Strangely enough I have a oil cooler.

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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I am your man if you need cherry123  palomino door and rear hatch panels
for a 300D/TD.  I also have a couple blue door panels and a hatch area
headliner cover for a 300D/TD.  They are all offered at below market
prices.

For all you W108/109/111 fans, I have TWO spare rariators, an oil cooler, a
front bumper and rear bumper overriders for a 280SE 3.5 COUPE.  Some of the
coupe chrome is NOS or nearly so.


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 This thread causes me to want to share an anecdote. I had a W123 240D that
 I had for a short time. Seems like it was just over a year. Had just over
 300K on the clock, if memory serves, when the crankshaft broke. So, a local
 guy I had been talking to had a W123 300D that was basically nothing but
 rust, but a good engine, he was daily driving. My chassis was nearly rust
 free, the only rust was in the front quarters really so  good chassis +
 good engine = car stays on the road that much longer. Couple months ago I
 was in the pull-apart looking for some parts for the Sportage I was driving
 and saw a blue W123 chassis, missing two of the doors, the hood and a
 quarter panel.

 Hmm ... mine was a blue W123, so I had a car just like it.

 So for nostalgia I'm looking around it, and see the rip in the seat I did
 on accident. The broken place on the dash that mine had ... this was *my*
 W123.

 So the guy says, after sending him an email, Yeah, it turned out to be too
 much trouble so I'm just driving the one I already had.

 *sighs*

 There is nothing quite like finding the car you had hoped would be fixed,
 stripped instead.

 On a related note, my truck died last weekend, so I'm suddenly in the
 market for a car. Anyone have a decent looking, great running car taking up
 too much space in the driveway?

 EdB


 On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 5:48 PM, John Reames via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  Any ideas what I'd be looking at in parts--
  123.133, hood, grille, driver fender, metal behind grille, drivers lamps,
  condenser, radiator, etc.
 
  Strangely enough I have a oil cooler.
 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 24/07/2014 10:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I am your man if you need cherry123  palomino door and rear hatch panels
for a 300D/TD.  I also have a couple blue door panels and a hatch area
headliner cover for a 300D/TD.  They are all offered at below market
prices.

For all you W108/109/111 fans, I have TWO spare rariators, an oil cooler, a
front bumper and rear bumper overriders for a 280SE 3.5 COUPE.  Some of the
coupe chrome is NOS or nearly so.




Ooooh! Rariators are very rare!

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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

[WILTON via Mercedes]

But make for a nice little laugh.  ;)
Keep 'em comin'.

Wilt

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To: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com

Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 parts



On 24/07/2014 10:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
I am your man if you need cherry123  palomino door and rear hatch 
panels

for a 300D/TD.  I also have a couple blue door panels and a hatch area
headliner cover for a 300D/TD.  They are all offered at below market
prices.

For all you W108/109/111 fans, I have TWO spare rariators, an oil cooler, 
a
front bumper and rear bumper overriders for a 280SE 3.5 COUPE.  Some of 
the

coupe chrome is NOS or nearly so.




Ooooh! Rariators are very rare!

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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

[John Reames via Mercedes]

State Farm may be selling all BUT the aforementioned parts

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 On Jul 24, 2014, at 9:31, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 So you may be selling the afore mentioned parts?
 
 Max Dillon,
 Charleston SC
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[MBZ] W123 parts

[John Reames via Mercedes]

Any ideas what I'd be looking at in parts--
123.133, hood, grille, driver fender, metal behind grille, drivers lamps, 
condenser, radiator, etc.

Strangely enough I have a oil cooler.

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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Alex,  I'll take Mercedes Repairs for $300.

What is the stuff John needs to repair front end damage?

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
 On Jul 23, 2014 5:48 PM, John Reames via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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 Any ideas what I'd be looking at in parts--
 123.133, hood, grille, driver fender, metal behind grille, drivers lamps,
 condenser, radiator, etc.

 Strangely enough I have a oil cooler.

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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

If you're asking me, I have two spare grilles IIRC and a bunch of palomino
door and rear wagon panels


On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 5:48 PM, John Reames via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Any ideas what I'd be looking at in parts--
 123.133, hood, grille, driver fender, metal behind grille, drivers lamps,
 condenser, radiator, etc.

 Strangely enough I have a oil cooler.

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[MBZ] W123 parts

[Mountain Man]

From Canada guy at Ritter list.
mao

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Michael H Coleman
mhcole...@sympatico.ca wrote:
 Good Evening Benz Friends;
        With the departure if my 123 I have a few spare parts for
 sale. Allow me to offer .

 A set of (4) 14 x 6 bundt cake wheels with 205/70X15 snow tires -
 $100.00 for the set
 (2) more bundt cakes with passible all season tires, I'll check the
 sizes if you are interested
 A 123 sedan rear window rubber, new - $30.00
 A beige 123 sedan headliner, sun roof car, NIB - $40.00
 A set of 123 US spec headlights, complete with mounting frame and fog
 lights - $40.00 set

 The wheels are too big to ship and I think that anybody who would need
 them would be relatively close, ie a snow area. We can meet half way.

 Regards;
 Mike Coleman
 North Lancaster, Ontario, Canada

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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts wanted

[redghost]

Avoid away.  I had two in Ivory that will fit a 14 steel wheel right 
here.

Where do they need to go?


On Friday, March 10, 2006, at 08:26 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


I may have a blank cap or two if you wanted to paint yourself


Que?  Aren't they all _some_ color or another?  Anyway, it's the
masking that's the killer.  I have a rattle-can of a close color!
I'm hoping to avoid that.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts wanted

[Jim Cathey]

Avoid away.  I had two in Ivory that will fit a 14 steel wheel right
here.  Where do they need to go?


On the right side of my car?  :-)

We're headed over to Roy and its environs (including Gig Harbor) next
weekend.  Could pick 'em up?  What _is_ this faded yellow color, anyway?
I've been calling it ivory, but it's probably something else.

http://cathey/dogear.com/mb240d/car3.jpg

Even if the caps are more of a white variation I'm sure they'll
look just fine.  On one side by themselves!

Any U-Pulls in the area I should hit to find the missing molding?
This car is getting close to what I'll call done, it'd be nice to
put it up for sale soon, but that can't happen until the exterior
cosmetics are taken care of.  (Molding, hood star, etc.)

I'm having an idea that I'll try to take this 240D on the trip.
Fill it up once in Idaho ($2.43/g) and forget about it.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] W123 parts wanted

[Jim Cathey]

Bad link.  Try:

http://cathey.dogear.com/mb240d/car3.jpg

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] W123 parts wanted

[redghost]

No idea what your official designation is, but I call it eggnog yellow. 
 The caps are more piano key ivory type.


there are a few PnP around that neck of the woods.  Pull a Part has a 
Tacoma yard.  There is a guy on CL with a yard (not sure if it is Pull) 
in Gig Harbor.  He does MB mostly, but I have never gone.  Lynnwood is 
my favorite yard, but there are no benz in there at the moment.  Might 
have one or two headed there this week.  I will head out there and let  
you know.


And yes you can pick the caps up.

On Saturday, March 11, 2006, at 05:32 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


Avoid away.  I had two in Ivory that will fit a 14 steel wheel right
here.  Where do they need to go?


On the right side of my car?  :-)

We're headed over to Roy and its environs (including Gig Harbor) next
weekend.  Could pick 'em up?  What _is_ this faded yellow color, 
anyway?

I've been calling it ivory, but it's probably something else.

http://cathey/dogear.com/mb240d/car3.jpg

Even if the caps are more of a white variation I'm sure they'll
look just fine.  On one side by themselves!

Any U-Pulls in the area I should hit to find the missing molding?
This car is getting close to what I'll call done, it'd be nice to
put it up for sale soon, but that can't happen until the exterior
cosmetics are taken care of.  (Molding, hood star, etc.)

I'm having an idea that I'll try to take this 240D on the trip.
Fill it up once in Idaho ($2.43/g) and forget about it.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts wanted

[redghost]

Oh, well that is not eggnog.  That is ivory, just like the caps


On Saturday, March 11, 2006, at 05:39 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


Bad link.  Try:

http://cathey.dogear.com/mb240d/car3.jpg

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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts wanted

[redghost]

I may have the caps.  Will know afternoon Sat.  Have to finish the 
garage where are the parts are living since I got kicked out of the 
home garage


On Friday, March 10, 2006, at 06:51 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:


Anybody got a U-Pull (-priced, anyway) right front fender molding?
Also need two ivory-ish hubcaps, but I hold out less hope for those.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts wanted

[Jim Cathey]

I may have the caps.  Will know afternoon Sat.


Great!  I don't know the name of the actual color, but I figure
if it's compatible it can be different side-to-side.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] W123 parts wanted

[redghost]

I may have a blank cap or two if you wanted to paint yourself

On Friday, March 10, 2006, at 06:45 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


I may have the caps.  Will know afternoon Sat.


Great!  I don't know the name of the actual color, but I figure
if it's compatible it can be different side-to-side.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] W123 parts wanted

[Jim Cathey]

I may have a blank cap or two if you wanted to paint yourself


Que?  Aren't they all _some_ color or another?  Anyway, it's the
masking that's the killer.  I have a rattle-can of a close color!
I'm hoping to avoid that.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] W123 parts wanted

[John Berryman]

On Mar 10, 2006, at 11:26 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:


Que?  Aren't they all _some_ color or another?  Anyway, it's the
masking that's the killer.  I have a rattle-can of a close color!
I'm hoping to avoid that.

-- Jim



	I have 3 unpainted ones somewhere. I have no intention of looking  
for them at this time, though.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

[MBZ] W123 parts wanted

[Jim Cathey]

Anybody got a U-Pull (-priced, anyway) right front fender molding?
Also need two ivory-ish hubcaps, but I hold out less hope for those.

-- Jim