Re: [MBZ] Gump gets lubed
We are in deep doo doo if I have to pass it to him. Been trying to get him interested in all sorts of old textbooks for auto shop and stuff. No interest. Probably not a big issue, since we will all be too poor to afford fuel and cars in a few years. Public transport all around! On Dec 10, 2006, at 5:07 PM, Zeitgeist wrote: Like a salmon returning from the sea, your life is nearing its end. It's best you pass on your genetic comprehension of the Benz's inner working to your progeny. On 12/10/06, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still takes me two hands to get a grip, but I am old and infirm -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip
Take the 126 for the leg room and comfort of cruising like a tank. That 124 is sporty and gets cramped after five or six hours. On Dec 10, 2006, at 7:24 PM, OK Don wrote: Yes - OR or WA (or both) this summer. The question then becomes, the 124 at 33 mpg., or the 126 at 26 mpg Decisions, decisions! On 12/10/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 21:03:45 -0600 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This still didn't seem like much of a workout for the car. Where's a mountain range when you want one??? Go west, young man ... Craig -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Gump gets lubed
Send them to me. I'll be your knowledgeable proto-child. -R Redghost wrote: We are in deep doo doo if I have to pass it to him. Been trying to get him interested in all sorts of old textbooks for auto shop and stuff. No interest.
[MBZ] cheap 124 wagon
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-wagon-mercedes-benz-300te-NOT-RUNNING_W0QQitemZ330061496660QQihZ014QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Dec 12 00:42:07 2006 Received: from mail209.megamailservers.com ([216.251.41.29]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.52) id 1Gtvig-0005x2-OO; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 00:42:07 + X-Authenticated-User: luther.gulseth.net Received: from dialup-4.226.133.92.dial1.dallas1.level3.net (dialup-4.226.133.92.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.226.133.92]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail209.megamailservers.com (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kBC0e2cX007871; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:40:05 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:41:05 -0600 To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.02 (Win32) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 00:42:07 - So, this afternoon I bid on an auction and was the high bidder with 8 seconds left until someone over bid me. No big deal. But then, 5 minutes after the auction closed, I received a second chance offer for the price of my high bid. HUH? WTF? I'm thinking this was a shil bid, and the guy is trying to get another $13 out of me. Any thoughts? -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D (280,176) parts car
Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction
Was it a big dollar transaction?? There's a LOT of phishing scams using the second chance feature and a hacked eBay acount. Beware! Jeff Zedic Toronto
Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction
SHA-HILL! yeah, that's a-smelling like a shill. On 12/11/06, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, this afternoon I bid on an auction and was the high bidder with 8 seconds left until someone over bid me. No big deal. But then, 5 minutes after the auction closed, I received a second chance offer for the price of my high bid. HUH? WTF? I'm thinking this was a shil bid, and the guy is trying to get another $13 out of me. Any thoughts? -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D (280,176) parts car ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip (what did who break?)
Damage to my wallet from paying for the items my wife picked out - must be an Okie saying --- Seeing no one else has spoken up.Damage at the Will Rogers museum? Details...How, what, why, huh? Mike -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction
Either that or fake 2nd chance offer. Happened to me once on a $20 book. Ebay warns of 2nd chance offers, best of to go back to the original ad and contact the seller through that to ensure it is a genuine offer. - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction SHA-HILL! yeah, that's a-smelling like a shill. On 12/11/06, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, this afternoon I bid on an auction and was the high bidder with 8
Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip
OK - I might need to try that route. I have been driving 412 from Tulsa to Mountain Home. Lots of curves, but no climbs worthy of remembrance. On 12/11/06, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When's the last time you drove I-540 from Alma to Fayetteville? There's the one hill leading to the tunnel. 3 miles at a solid 80% full throttle to maintain 70mph. Slows nearly all semis to 50mph or less. Full throttle will generally gain about 1mph per 5 seconds or so with my SD, slightly better with the CD. The very next hill (north bound) is just as steep, if not more so, but shorter...only 1.5 miles. That's about the best you can findunless you run the gorgeous Highway 71 between Alma and Fay... -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip
Yup - life has gotten really rough -- There will be two of us - I guess it will depend on whether we take the Folbot or not, though I'm leaning towards the 126 regardless. On 12/11/06, kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 124 at 33 mpg., or the 126 at 26 mpg Life's tough, ain't it? I guess it'd depend on how many passengers, luggage, etc you were taking, and which car is the most comfortable. I would say it's the W126 SDL hands down, especially for the rear seat passengers if there are any. It's got the biggest trunk if you happened to find some parts along the way. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip (what did who break?)
I understood, so it works in TN. Mike On 12/11/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damage to my wallet from paying for the items my wife picked out - must be an Okie saying --- Seeing no one else has spoken up.Damage at the Will Rogers museum? Details...How, what, why, huh? Mike -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip
Well, he did have the opportunity last year to buy a 123 hood and grill from Kaleb - but doesn't tailgate anymore! Since buying wheels and tires for the 124, he doesn't mess with the CD player or radio while driving anymore either -- other than those two incidents, he's been a remarkably good driver for his age. Not much more damage than his older sisters did in their first few years of driving. On 12/11/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is if #1 son turns out to be a good driver. Otherwise, you might need extras. Randy (who has 2 sons who have not turned out to be too bad in that regard) -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
[MBZ] Upper Control Arm Bushing
The Left upper control arm bushing is gone...Judging by my limited skills on suspension forces, this looks like a fairly straight forward job ... remove the nut, bang and slide out the bolt, the arm drops a bit or support arm in position with shims, remove the old bushings, install the new and try to put the bolt through the bushing, metal tube, and final bushing. Tighten nut ... sounds like a 20 minute job but will really take me a hour Am I in the ball park on this job ? I will also change the upper left, it looks not well . TIA Bill 1981 300 TD
Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip (what did who break?)
No, I have heard that saying in the northeast-What are my damages? I knew what you meant. I have also heard said to a clerk, Damage me up Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 Damage to my wallet from paying for the items my wife picked out - must be an Okie saying --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction
Hrm, I'll try that method. This is a $97 auction, not much, but still Luther On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:49:21 -0600, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Either that or fake 2nd chance offer. Happened to me once on a $20 book. Ebay warns of 2nd chance offers, best of to go back to the original ad and contact the seller through that to ensure it is a genuine offer. - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction SHA-HILL! yeah, that's a-smelling like a shill. On 12/11/06, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, this afternoon I bid on an auction and was the high bidder with 8 -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D (280,176) parts car
Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction
It's happened to me, sometimes it's just a bid retraction, or the winner asks not to get it. Could be fraud, is it worth the $13 to you? If not, don't buy it. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip (what did who break?)
Gotcha now. MikeSometimes a little slow but does catch on. - Original Message - From: Michael Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip (what did who break?) I understood, so it works in TN. Mike On 12/11/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damage to my wallet from paying for the items my wife picked out - must be an Okie saying --- Seeing no one else has spoken up.Damage at the Will Rogers museum? Details...How, what, why, huh? Mike -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction
A genuine second chance will also be sent via eBay to your messages there in MyEbay. Peter
Re: [MBZ] FW: How to tell a non-turbo from a turbo diesel?
In a message dated 12/11/2006 1:43:30 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I mean is how can one tell that the installed long block is actually a turbo diesel? I bought a 1983 300D turbo from the back lot of a repair shop. Looking under the hood - it appears that the engine has been replaced. The car has never been as strong as my 116 300SD - which will run off and hide from this 300D. The turbo appears fine and even sound like it is working. On Turbos the most solid clue would be the oil nozzles that are found at the base of each cylinder, and when the piston comes down, cooling oil is pumped through the piston. You would be able to see a couple by removing the small oil pan. From the exterior, a check of the engine number, stamped in the block, drivers side rear, just below the head, should be helpful. Also, on top of the injection pump would reside an ALDA, which is connected by tubing to the intake manifold, for boost compensation. A non turbo injection would use an ADA, open to the atmosphere for barometric compensation only. It does sound like your ALDA needs adjusting, and/or the boost signal is not reaching the ALDA Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 146 K miles
Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip
I forgot about hammet house and the memorial. Thats a good place to go. OK Don wrote: We took the 300D 2.5 to buy a set of wheels for the SLC from Kaleb today. There are plenty of hills in his part of the State, the trip is 160 miles one way, so I thought this would be an opportunity to help burn some more carbon out. The traffic was heavier than I expected, and the hills less demanding than I had hoped. Downshifting to third let me drive up the hills at red line - but it seemed too easy. Keeping it in fourth and flooring it on the steeper hills resulted in speeds in excess of 90, when there was no one blocking me. This still didn't seem like much of a workout for the car. Where's a mountain range when you want one??? Anyway, the drive was otherwise un-eventful. Kaleb was wrenching on the latest 300D 2.5, he looks good in grease and Diesel carbon. he has several interesting projects in mid stream. I scored the four wheels for a very good price, even considering the $24.00 in fuel, tolls, eating at a good restaurant in Claremore (the Hammon House, NOT the waffle place), and the damage done in the gift shop of the Will Rogers museum. Thanks, Kaleb. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, (2x) 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] FW: How to tell a non-turbo from a turbo diesel?
you have a plugged ALDA line. Clean that out and you should be good to go. Black, Waylon wrote: Aside from the obvious. What I mean is how can one tell that the installed long block is actually a turbo diesel? I bought a 1983 300D turbo from the back lot of a repair shop. Looking under the hood - it appears that the engine has been replaced. The car has never been as strong as my 116 300SD - which will run off and hide from this 300D. The turbo appears fine and even sound like it is working. The 300D's power is somewhere between my mom's 240D and my SD. What I expect a 300D non-turbo would be like. Engine is silky smooth, starts easily in freezing temps, etc. I have heard/read that if you add the turbo hardware to a non-turbo motor, the power increase will be little to none as the additional air will not have the additional fuel required by the turbo motors(IP and injectors). I can see where a sleazy shop would/could by a non-turbo engine(cheaper), add the hardware/oil pan but not replace install the turbo's injectors/IP(no need to adjust timing). Any thoughts opinions are welcomed. Waylon Black Little Elm, Texas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, (2x) 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction
Could be a shill. I often send 2nd chance offers if I have more than one of an item though. Hendrik Riessen wrote: Either that or fake 2nd chance offer. Happened to me once on a $20 book. Ebay warns of 2nd chance offers, best of to go back to the original ad and contact the seller through that to ensure it is a genuine offer. - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction SHA-HILL! yeah, that's a-smelling like a shill. On 12/11/06, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, this afternoon I bid on an auction and was the high bidder with 8 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, (2x) 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip
Yup - mile high pie - got my attention right away! On 12/11/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I forgot about hammet house and the memorial. Thats a good place to go. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:05:01 -0600 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup - life has gotten really rough -- There will be two of us - I guess it will depend on whether we take the Folbot or not, though I'm leaning towards the 126 regardless. Folbot? Craig
Re: [MBZ] 62 190D
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 06:58:27 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone into these cars? One on the west coast sounds pretty good. Poonton or ponton or wonton what ever they call them. Needs some work but migh make a nice daily driver Does not come with abs, a turbo GPS or Ipod hook up though. Let me know directly and I will relay information [EMAIL PROTECTED] So how much is the guy asking? And it's ponton, by the way. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip
TOO much fun! It fits in the trunk - a sea-worthy boat for two. It's more work (paddling) than the sailboat (sailing), but a lot less to deal with (no trailer). http://www.folbot.com/greenland2.html http://www.folbot.com/assembly.html On 12/11/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:05:01 -0600 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup - life has gotten really rough -- There will be two of us - I guess it will depend on whether we take the Folbot or not, though I'm leaning towards the 126 regardless. Folbot? Craig -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] 62 190D
Isn't ponton German (or Mercedes) for uni-body? So how much is the guy asking? And it's ponton, by the way. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] lane sharing and lane splitting (was: Re: Good feelings)
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:42:27 -0800 ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lane sharing; multiple vehicles simultaneously in between the same pair of painted lane lines. (legal in California). lane splitting; cutting between vehicles in different lanes. many people use the term Lane Splitting to mean either of the above, when what they're generally talking about could be more correctly called White Lining. You mean, instead of, |^^| | CAR | |__| |^^| | CAR | |__| |^^| | CAR | |__| you have, |^^| | CAR | |__| |^^| | CAR | |__| |^^| | CAR | |__| ? Craig
Re: [MBZ] lane sharing and lane splitting
I think the terms are used to refer to motorcycles and narrow vehicles like that. If I understand properly, lane sharing would be riding two-abreast in the same lane. Lane splitting would be riding in between the travel lanes, like to squeeze between cars that are stopped in traffic. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 1:55 PM To: Weekly Highway Diesel Prices Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **** * * *** U.S. Department of Energy** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ******* To unsubscribe/change address, ** ** ** ** ** * see the message footnotes * * EIA, the Nation's clearinghouse for energy statistics. *** ** (NOTE: To best view this document, your email software should be set to view the item in an 80 character format, using a non-proportional font, e.g. courier) ** On-highway diesel prices, by week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATEAVG COAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 061211 2.621 2.610 2.749 2.730 2.546 2.563 2.540 2.724 2.931 2.963 061204 2.618 2.610 2.716 2.717 2.555 2.578 2.537 2.707 2.860 2.860 061127 2.567 2.537 2.634 2.652 2.479 2.554 2.490 2.680 2.760 2.710 061120 2.553 2.521 2.625 2.638 2.461 2.554 2.469 2.647 2.724 2.690 061113 2.552 2.530 2.616 2.643 2.473 2.562 2.470 2.623 2.673 2.677 061106 2.506 2.508 2.613 2.628 2.448 2.493 2.449 2.577 2.606 2.637 061030 2.517 2.530 2.629 2.646 2.472 2.501 2.462 2.577 2.602 2.645 061023 2.524 2.537 2.636 2.651 2.480 2.502 2.477 2.563 2.628 2.669 061016 2.503 2.521 2.623 2.636 2.462 2.459 2.461 2.539 2.655 2.703 061009 2.506 2.533 2.649 2.654 2.471 2.448 2.446 2.584 2.697 2.751 061002 2.546 2.567 2.678 2.694 2.503 2.467 2.490 2.679 2.789 2.835 060925 2.595 2.600 2.730 2.746 2.526 2.506 2.526 2.827 2.892 2.910 060918 2.713 2.699 2.832 2.844 2.625 2.624 2.636 3.052 3.014 3.002 060911 2.857 2.826 2.955 2.958 2.757 2.787 2.770 3.236 3.137 3.125 060904 2.967 2.911 3.009 3.032 2.850 2.937 2.872 3.318 3.199 3.175 060828 3.027 2.955 3.035 3.074 2.897 3.026 2.923 3.346 3.229 3.200 060821 3.033 2.953 3.049 3.078 2.890 3.041 2.923 3.349 3.237 3.221 060814 3.065 3.017 3.077 3.130 2.964 3.065 2.974 3.311 3.218 3.220 060807 3.055 3.026 3.061 3.104 2.989 3.070 2.988 3.208 3.113 3.130 060731 2.980 2.958 2.991 3.030 2.924 2.988 2.925 3.052 3.066 3.093 060724 2.946 2.925 2.972 3.002 2.888 2.951 2.895 2.987 3.047 3.097 060717 2.926 2.906 2.970 2.992 2.864 2.927 2.868 2.960 3.051 3.097 060710 2.918 2.887 2.947 2.963 2.849 2.919 2.866 2.966 3.060 3.113 060703 2.898 2.874 2.948 2.951 2.834 2.887 2.845 2.958 3.056 3.119 060626 2.867 2.864 2.952 2.956 2.816 2.819 2.822 2.960 3.068 3.140 060619 2.915 2.907 2.960 2.990 2.867 2.873 2.859 3.018 3.117 3.185 060612 2.918 2.909 2.979 2.997 2.866 2.874 2.848 3.041 3.149 3.217 060605 2.890 2.881 2.969 2.992 2.825 2.837 2.805 3.043 3.159 3.227 060529 2.882 2.873 2.966 2.987 2.815 2.824 2.798 3.044 3.161 3.227 060522 2.888 2.877 2.982 2.987 2.820 2.836 2.801 3.024 3.175 3.234 060515 2.920 2.907 3.003 3.014 2.853 2.870 2.829 3.074 3.192 3.242 060508 2.897 2.884 2.972 2.983 2.834 2.841 2.814 3.054 3.180 3.244 060501 2.896 2.892 2.979 2.987 2.843 2.853 2.832 3.012 3.098 3.163 060424 2.876 2.888 2.961 2.978 2.843 2.847 2.817 2.903 3.026 3.103 060417 2.765 2.788 2.865 2.876 2.743 2.735 2.725 2.756 2.881 2.933 060410 2.654 2.676 2.769 2.767 2.629 2.614 2.601 2.680 2.812 2.881 060403 2.617 2.639 2.731 2.727 2.593 2.578 2.579 2.629 2.753 2.812 060327 2.565 2.586 2.700 2.681 2.536 2.523 2.528 2.601 2.698 2.727 060320 2.581 2.606 2.702 2.697 2.558 2.533 2.552 2.608 2.716 2.738 060313 2.543 2.567 2.687 2.681 2.507 2.491 2.497 2.566 2.725 2.747 060306 2.545 2.571 2.656 2.682 2.516 2.500 2.499 2.545 2.711 2.739 060227 2.471 2.493 2.593 2.593 2.441 2.417 2.443 2.509 2.623 2.688 060220 2.455
Re: [MBZ] 62 190D
I believe that Ponton is the German word for pontoon which these models resemble. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 284K miles, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction
How can you do that? Doesn't the ebay number remain the same with 2nd chance offers? - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction Could be a shill. I often send 2nd chance offers if I have more than one of an item though. Hendrik Riessen wrote: Either that or fake 2nd chance offer. Happened to me once on a $20 book. Ebay warns of 2nd chance offers, best of to go back to the original ad and contact the seller through that to ensure it is a genuine offer. - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction SHA-HILL! yeah, that's a-smelling like a shill. On 12/11/06, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, this afternoon I bid on an auction and was the high bidder with 8 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, (2x) 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.16/582 - Release Date: 11/12/2006
Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip (what did who break?)
A general midwest saying Bob R..former midwesterner - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip (what did who break?) Damage to my wallet from paying for the items my wife picked out - must be an Okie saying --- Seeing no one else has spoken up.Damage at the Will Rogers museum? Details...How, what, why, huh? Mike -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip (what did who break?)
General saying all over the USAI just didn't catch onHad Banned on my mind and figured there must be a good story of something getting broken or some other similar catastrophe... Mike(Who sometimes reads into stuff a bit too far...) - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip (what did who break?) A general midwest saying Bob R..former midwesterner - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip (what did who break?) Damage to my wallet from paying for the items my wife picked out - must be an Okie saying --- Seeing no one else has spoken up.Damage at the Will Rogers museum? Details...How, what, why, huh? Mike -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip
Those look sweet. Just the thing to purchase after I win the lottery and I am able to move out of the desert and live next to water. Bob R - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip TOO much fun! It fits in the trunk - a sea-worthy boat for two. It's more work (paddling) than the sailboat (sailing), but a lot less to deal with (no trailer). http://www.folbot.com/greenland2.html http://www.folbot.com/assembly.html On 12/11/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:05:01 -0600 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup - life has gotten really rough -- There will be two of us - I guess it will depend on whether we take the Folbot or not, though I'm leaning towards the 126 regardless. Folbot? Craig -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Batteries
Couple interesting battery items: -Got a new battery for my 83' 300D as the old one wasn't up to below freezing temps. Ended up getting it from Advance for $70 as there's had a 3 year free replacment instead of the 2 year at Autozone and bother were 7 year prorated. What's the Reserve rating? I know I've seen it say minutes before, but minutes at what level of power usage? -Did the Desulfate option on the old battery. Seemed to be pushing some water out of the positive terminal of the battery, but not a lot. Also possible that was during the charging stage, but I didn't notice it until I did the desulfate option. What would cause that? -My Subaru's been neglected while I've been driving the Benz and the Optima I had in there went dead over the last stint. Went to charge it yesterday and it was taking a good 30+ amps for a while, then seemed to slow down. Left it on there overnight and was sure it would be done this morning, but low and behold it was pumping in more than 20 amps and the battery was REALLY hissing, blowing smoke (or steam or whatever) and smelled something like eggs... I'm assuming that's no a good sign and the battery is probably toast, but what causes that? I guess I thought the gel cells didn't really do that... Levi (:
Re: [MBZ] cheap 124 wagon
Hu... So...all you savy, saged buy-non-running-car dudes what, generally, does will not run smooth and overheats translate into in the way of repairs needed? Bob Rentfro '77 300D 164K '87 Acura Legend 179K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 5:39 PM Subject: [MBZ] cheap 124 wagon http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-wagon-mercedes-benz-300te-NOT-RUNNING_W0QQitemZ330061496660QQihZ014QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap 124 wagon
So...all you savy, saged buy-non-running-car dudes what, generally, does will not run smooth and overheats translate into in the way of repairs needed? Blown head and/or gasket? -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction
no Hendrik Riessen wrote: How can you do that? Doesn't the ebay number remain the same with 2nd chance offers? - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction Could be a shill. I often send 2nd chance offers if I have more than one of an item though. Hendrik Riessen wrote: Either that or fake 2nd chance offer. Happened to me once on a $20 book. Ebay warns of 2nd chance offers, best of to go back to the original ad and contact the seller through that to ensure it is a genuine offer. - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction SHA-HILL! yeah, that's a-smelling like a shill. On 12/11/06, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, this afternoon I bid on an auction and was the high bidder with 8 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, (2x) 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.16/582 - Release Date: 11/12/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, (2x) 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Batteries
-My Subaru's been neglected while I've been driving the Benz and the Optima I had in there went dead over the last stint. Went to charge it yesterday and it was taking a good 30+ amps for a while, then seemed to slow down. Left it on there overnight and was sure it would be done this morning, but low and behold it was pumping in more than 20 amps and the battery was REALLY hissing, blowing smoke (or steam or whatever) and smelled something like eggs... I'm assuming that's no a good sign and the battery is probably toast, but what causes that? I guess I thought the gel cells didn't really do that... It's dead, Jim. 30+ amps is too hot a charge for unattended use, for safety reasons. (Nor does it do them any good either, most batteries prefer being charged at well under 10% of their AH rating.) A good 6-10A charger is all you need for regular use. The hot chargers are mostly for the I can't wait crowd, like mechanics on flat rate. No lead-acid battery likes being run flat, it's just that the Optimas tolerate it a little better than the others. They're also sealed better (unless you cook them), and will run in any position. But they cost a lot more, and have less capacity than regulars. Treated well they will probably last longer. (And by well, run flat and then cooked doesn't qualify! :-) I have either a charge maintainer or a knife switch on our vehicles that don't see regular service. I hate batteries. My electric shaver plugs in. Norelco 2-header from the late 50's, was my grandfather's. Now _that's_ service! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Batteries
Hmm, what is the AH rating on these batteries? This is/was an 850CCA battery I was figuring that at that rating 40amps wouldn't be that high, but then I guess I was confusing AH with CA... It is a smart charger and should only put in what is needed. It doesn't normally put that much amperage into anything unless it's WAY low on power... (And I selected that high a charge) They do seem to last pretty well. I was just thinking that the other day when my wife reminded me that we changed the one in her Sube before in 99' or 00' at the latest and it's still going strong. Hers isn't an Optima, but is a gel cell Champion or something... Levi On 12/12/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -My Subaru's been neglected while I've been driving the Benz and the Optima I had in there went dead over the last stint. Went to charge it yesterday and it was taking a good 30+ amps for a while, then seemed to slow down. Left it on there overnight and was sure it would be done this morning, but low and behold it was pumping in more than 20 amps and the battery was REALLY hissing, blowing smoke (or steam or whatever) and smelled something like eggs... I'm assuming that's no a good sign and the battery is probably toast, but what causes that? I guess I thought the gel cells didn't really do that... It's dead, Jim. 30+ amps is too hot a charge for unattended use, for safety reasons. (Nor does it do them any good either, most batteries prefer being charged at well under 10% of their AH rating.) A good 6-10A charger is all you need for regular use. The hot chargers are mostly for the I can't wait crowd, like mechanics on flat rate. No lead-acid battery likes being run flat, it's just that the Optimas tolerate it a little better than the others. They're also sealed better (unless you cook them), and will run in any position. But they cost a lot more, and have less capacity than regulars. Treated well they will probably last longer. (And by well, run flat and then cooked doesn't qualify! :-) I have either a charge maintainer or a knife switch on our vehicles that don't see regular service. I hate batteries. My electric shaver plugs in. Norelco 2-header from the late 50's, was my grandfather's. Now _that's_ service! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Batteries
Levi - cooking batteries is definitely NOT healthy! The heat generated internally can warp plates and do other internal bad things. A battery professional would recommend charging at a 2-3 Ampere rate for several days - that not only builds a good charge without excessive heating, but also chemically helps restore the plates by driving the sulfur back into solution. Several years ago, I had a shop in Anchorage rebuild a 24V DC-3 battery (my old Army surplus generator needed a 24V battery) by replacing a few bad cells with good ones from a donor battery, and then charging at 2 Amps for MORE than a WEEK. Battery worked well for several years after that! Werner '83SD 222K '90D 227K - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:07 AM Subject: [MBZ] Batteries Couple interesting battery items: -Got a new battery for my 83' 300D as the old one wasn't up to below freezing temps. Ended up getting it from Advance for $70 as there's had a 3 year free replacment instead of the 2 year at Autozone and bother were 7 year prorated. What's the Reserve rating? I know I've seen it say minutes before, but minutes at what level of power usage? -Did the Desulfate option on the old battery. Seemed to be pushing some water out of the positive terminal of the battery, but not a lot. Also possible that was during the charging stage, but I didn't notice it until I did the desulfate option. What would cause that? -My Subaru's been neglected while I've been driving the Benz and the Optima I had in there went dead over the last stint. Went to charge it yesterday and it was taking a good 30+ amps for a while, then seemed to slow down. Left it on there overnight and was sure it would be done this morning, but low and behold it was pumping in more than 20 amps and the battery was REALLY hissing, blowing smoke (or steam or whatever) and smelled something like eggs... I'm assuming that's no a good sign and the battery is probably toast, but what causes that? I guess I thought the gel cells didn't really do that... Levi (:
[MBZ] OT: Grandfather
I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella, was born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz. 20 3/4 tall. Everyone is super healthy and we are a blessed family this Christmas season. After our last year of deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. 1-800-741-5252
Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather
Congratulations, Grandpa. Spoil her like mad, then return her to her parents Bob R. - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 8:12 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella, was born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz. 20 3/4 tall. Everyone is super healthy and we are a blessed family this Christmas season. After our last year of deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. 1-800-741-5252 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Batteries
Hmm, what is the AH rating on these batteries? This is/was an 850CCA battery I was figuring that at that rating 40amps wouldn't be that high, but then I guess I was confusing AH with CA... Yes, you were. The regular group 49 battery is something like an 85-100 AH battery, and the Optimas are rated at less than that. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather
Congratulations Rusty! Where can I send you a cigar? Pictures? And I second Bob's recommendation - that's the best part about being a grandfather. On 12/12/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Congratulations, Grandpa. Spoil her like mad, then return her to her parents Bob R. - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 8:12 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella, was born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz. 20 3/4 tall. Everyone is super healthy and we are a blessed family this Christmas season. After our last year of deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. 1-800-741-5252 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather
Congratulations. I was made a 4th time grandfather with a new granddaughter, also an Isabella, in October. Funny how names seem to switch around in different generations. You would probably not hear of a Bertha or other such name common a couple of generations ago. Makes you wonder what the next generations will come up with. Grandkids are great. Have fun. BillR Jacksonville -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 10:13 AM To: Banned List; Mercedes Discussion List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella, was born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz. 20 3/4 tall. Everyone is super healthy and we are a blessed family this Christmas season. After our last year of deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. 1-800-741-5252 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather
Congratulations, Rusty! Perhaps you should start looking for a good 240D for when she starts driving - they may be a bit scarce in the yea 2022?? Werner - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 10:12 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella, was born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz. 20 3/4 tall. Everyone is super healthy and we are a blessed family this Christmas season. After our last year of deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. 1-800-741-5252
Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather
Utoh, we know where Rusty's hard earned money will be going. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D (280,176) parts car Quoting Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella, was born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz. 20 3/4 tall. Everyone is super healthy and we are a blessed family this Christmas season. After our last year of deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. 1-800-741-5252
Re: [MBZ] lane sharing and lane splitting
no. (jeeze, not *everyone* drives like Paris Hilton here! ;-) ) cheers! e Craig McCluskey wrote: On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:42:27 -0800 ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lane sharing; multiple vehicles simultaneously in between the same pair of painted lane lines. (legal in California). lane splitting; cutting between vehicles in different lanes. many people use the term Lane Splitting to mean either of the above, when what they're generally talking about could be more correctly called White Lining. You mean, instead of, |^^| | CAR | |__| |^^| | CAR | |__| |^^| | CAR | |__| you have, |^^| | CAR | |__| |^^| | CAR | |__| |^^| | CAR | |__| ? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lane sharing and lane splitting
that's correct. cheers! e David Brodbeck wrote: I think the terms are used to refer to motorcycles and narrow vehicles like that. If I understand properly, lane sharing would be riding two-abreast in the same lane. Lane splitting would be riding in between the travel lanes, like to squeeze between cars that are stopped in traffic. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather
I already have one lined up!!! - Original Message - From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather Congratulations, Rusty! Perhaps you should start looking for a good 240D for when she starts driving - they may be a bit scarce in the yea 2022?? Werner - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 10:12 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella, was born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz. 20 3/4 tall. Everyone is super healthy and we are a blessed family this Christmas season. After our last year of deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. 1-800-741-5252 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather
Already has been, geez my wife can spend it faster than ya'll give it to me. - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather Utoh, we know where Rusty's hard earned money will be going. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D (280,176) parts car Quoting Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella, was born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz. 20 3/4 tall. Everyone is super healthy and we are a blessed family this Christmas season. After our last year of deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. 1-800-741-5252 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather
Rusty wrote: I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella, was born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz. 20 3/4 tall. Everyone is super healthy and we are a blessed family this Christmas season. After our last year of deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change. Congratulations! You know the best way to celebrate this wonderful arrival? A sale on 126 parts especially tune-up maintenance parts like plugs, wires, dist. Cap, rotor, and free shipping!! Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 133K
Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather
Congratulations! Much easier to be a grandparent than a parent. Enjoy! Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:13 AM To: Banned List; Mercedes Discussion List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella, was born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz. 20 3/4 tall. Everyone is super healthy and we are a blessed family this Christmas season. After our last year of deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. 1-800-741-5252 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather
Sounds like a good idea, how about EVERYTHING we have, is 10% off for the rest of this week. All you have to do is call the order in, ask for me and say you want the Isabella special. That'll do it. - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather Rusty wrote: I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella, was born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz. 20 3/4 tall. Everyone is super healthy and we are a blessed family this Christmas season. After our last year of deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change. Congratulations! You know the best way to celebrate this wonderful arrival? A sale on 126 parts especially tune-up maintenance parts like plugs, wires, dist. Cap, rotor, and free shipping!! Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 133K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather
Yea, when the kid is sick or onry or crying, etc...you can just give her back to her parents! :) -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D (280,176) parts car Quoting R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Congratulations! Much easier to be a grandparent than a parent. Enjoy! Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:13 AM To: Banned List; Mercedes Discussion List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella, was born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz. 20 3/4 tall. Everyone is super healthy and we are a blessed family this Christmas season. After our last year of deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. 1-800-741-5252
[MBZ] M1 or Amsoil prices
Hey Mike, Did you say something about being able to get Amsoil for $5/quart? I was just out looking for some M1 and it seems to be more like $7+/quart now... If Amsoil is just as good and cheaper, I'm all for that... Or does anyone else know the best places to buy either? Heck, for almost $8/quart, I'll go back to my 5 gallon pails of Redline oil... Levi
Re: [MBZ] Posted my wagon to eBay
What happened with the wagon? Zeb On 07/12/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice presentation. You might want to add a photo of the center dash to show the radio cassette and wood in the middle. If these look good then that might be worth another couple hundred bucks. On 12/5/06, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im not a real ebay guy, but I'm keeping my eye on it. Zeb On 05/12/06, TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rght! Tim 1982 300TD 1991 300TE 4Matic === Message: 9 Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 12:36:17 -0500 From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm gonna throw my hat into the ring. The reserve is $500, right ;-)? Mac (channelling Kaleb) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather
WOO HOO! Bob R - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather Sounds like a good idea, how about EVERYTHING we have, is 10% off for the rest of this week. All you have to do is call the order in, ask for me and say you want the Isabella special. That'll do it. - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather Rusty wrote: I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella, was born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz. 20 3/4 tall. Everyone is super healthy and we are a blessed family this Christmas season. After our last year of deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change. Congratulations! You know the best way to celebrate this wonderful arrival? A sale on 126 parts especially tune-up maintenance parts like plugs, wires, dist. Cap, rotor, and free shipping!! Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 133K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Batteries
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:04:53 -0500, Werner Fehlauer wrote Levi - cooking batteries is definitely NOT healthy! The heat generated internally can warp plates and do other internal bad things. This is especially true of sealed batteries like Optimas. If they get too hot, the safety vents pop and it's no longer sealed anymore. Once water boils off this way, there's no way to replace it. Generally speaking, sealed lead acid batteries will not tolerate as much charge current as non-sealed ones. Gel cells, in particular, usually have some pretty specific restrictions on charging conditions.
[MBZ] Service manual library
I don't know if this is widely publiszed, but it is a great tool to have, thanks to Steve Nervig. All my CD's are now accessible from one convenient place and no switching from one disk to the other, no digging through these cumbersome indexes and no hunting for pdf's which are not listed. It works for Mac's and Window PC's for all the MB CD's you have. There is a read-me file with the downloads which makes it easy to install everything. Go to: http://web.mac.com/dakota/iWeb/Mercedes/Indexes.html servicev2.2.zip W124v4.0zip W126v1.2.zip etc. -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] 62 190D
$2,800 no affilliation/Tom Is that pronouced POOON TON or PON TON?? - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 62 190D On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 06:58:27 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone into these cars? One on the west coast sounds pretty good. Poonton or ponton or wonton what ever they call them. Needs some work but migh make a nice daily driver Does not come with abs, a turbo GPS or Ipod hook up though. Let me know directly and I will relay information [EMAIL PROTECTED] So how much is the guy asking? And it's ponton, by the way. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather
Utoh, we know where Rusty's hard earned money will be going. Utoh? Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 284K miles, Ursula PS. I guess it's time to order some diesel purge and a VC gasket now
[MBZ] tranny filter/gasket kit interchangeability
I've got a tranny gasket and filter kit hangin' 'round that was ordered for my '78 300CD. Will this work with the '83 SD? Also, does this car have that dreaded tranny plug that also holds the filler/dipstick tube in place as the W123's do? Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 284k miles, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather
Congratulations, Rusty! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300sD 284K miles, Ursula
Re: [MBZ] Update Re: Red dash light for Battery is staying on
Michael, Can he also fix a Bosch 1970 W111 wiper motor that doesn't shut off properly when in low-speed mode? I On 12/10/06, MICHAEL ESH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pulled the alternator and will have it tested tomorrow at a local shop. The guy runs a one man auto electric shop and will even let you come back and watch the procedure. He will often rebuild them on the spot. New bushings, electrics, diodes, rectifiers, and all that stuff. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quick plugs
So if you have 4 instead of 5 functional glow plugs will a 1983 300D start or not? If yes, then how will it run compared to if it had 5/5 functioning GPs? On 12/10/06, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LarryT - If you only look at the 45 state/50 state controversy re: Diesels, then the ball is certainly mostly in the Government's court, albeit State Governments. But the decision to import and sell certain models is up to the importer, such as MBUSA, etc. And it is apparent that MBUSA calls the shots on this, since as the biggest overseas customer of D-C, they won't likely be over-ruled by Stuttgart. The fact that MBUSA is bringing in the Bluetec V6 in the E Class ONLY seems to be purely a marketing decision, IMO. The very same engine is put into the S Class cars in Germany, and both cars meet USA federal safety requirements, with less fuel efficient engines. The decision not to offer a S320CDI doesn't appear to have any governmental influence! MBUSA is supposed to be offering an ML320CDI (non-bluetec), but that may be both because of vehicle weight classification and image (an SUV doesn't need to appear as luxurious as the vaunted S Class!) Werner '83SD; '90D - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quick plugs Marshall wrote:The very latest plugs (can't be retrofitted to most older engines) are said to start diesels reliably down to -30 deg. C with less than 5 sec glow. That explains why testers of the new 320 Bluetec were unable to tell if they were driving a diesel or not! Jim Mahaffey (a regular poster to prev MB email lists) did a road test of the 2007 320 Bluetec and said no scent-trail, no ignition clatter, no glow plug warm up, not a hint of soot... in the latest The Star magazine. and it gets ~37mpg. The advances made in diesel design during the past 20-30 years has been amazing IMHO. Let's hope the govt makes it easier to sell/by new diesel engined vehicles. As Werner posted last week, there's a plethora of diesel vehicles available. Hopefully the manufactureres will decide to jump thru the environmental safety hoops to sell here. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tranny filter/gasket kit interchangeability
No, not interchangeable, sorry. - Original Message - From: kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 4:01 PM Subject: [MBZ] tranny filter/gasket kit interchangeability I've got a tranny gasket and filter kit hangin' 'round that was ordered for my '78 300CD. Will this work with the '83 SD? Also, does this car have that dreaded tranny plug that also holds the filler/dipstick tube in place as the W123's do? Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 284k miles, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Recording Video
Howdy - I love many of the car related videos we see links to so often but am frustrated at the difficulty downloading them and saving them in a format that'll be easy to play at our convienence. One of my Computer Newsletters had this today - http://store.worldstart.com/product.php?productid=2576 Wow, do we have a cool title for you today! I was so excited when I first heard about this one - I couldn't wait to get the sample in the door! What's got me so excited today? Internet Video Recorder! This amazing program makes recording streaming video off the internet simple and easy.What I love about this is it seems like my friends are always sending me links to funny videos, hilarious flash presentations (you know, those cartoon like impersonation vids), or even just a cool music video. With this software, it's easy to capture ANY streaming video and save it as an AVI file (AVI is about as universal as you can get with video). If you can watch it, this can record it! It's $12.97 with free shipping. I've bought software from these guys before have been happy with what I got --- Not pushing this stuff except to recommend a much wanted product - this looks like it would make saving videos quick easy. No affiliation except as a happy customer - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ .
Re: [MBZ] tranny filter/gasket kit interchangeability
No, not interchangeable, sorry. Dang! I guess I'll be ordering that tomorrow as well. It's shifting very well, and I want to keep it that way with some M1 synthetic and a new filter. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 284K miles, Ursula
[MBZ] Diagnosing 123 300TD bounciness (wagon)
My friend in Atlanta has a ride/suspension problem with his 1985 300TD station wagon. The car bounces on rough roads but nothing dampens the oscillation so the bounciness persists way too long. Ordinarily this might be diagnosed as worn out shocks but the problem seems to be in the REAR and the car has a hydraulic suspension with struts and air cells in lieu of conventional rear shocks and springs. Is there some adjustable part in the rear suspension that controls ride firmness? Or could it need new air cells? The struts are not leaking so they're OK. BTW, if anyone has a 1981 - 1985 W123 parts car (preferably a wagon) with a palomino interior he's looking for a decent front seats.
Re: [MBZ] Diagnosing 123 300TD bounciness (wagon)
Needs new nitrogen spheres - they rupture and cause exactly what you describe. Mike On 12/12/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My friend in Atlanta has a ride/suspension problem with his 1985 300TD station wagon. The car bounces on rough roads but nothing dampens the oscillation so the bounciness persists way too long. Ordinarily this might be diagnosed as worn out shocks but the problem seems to be in the REAR and the car has a hydraulic suspension with struts and air cells in lieu of conventional rear shocks and springs. Is there some adjustable part in the rear suspension that controls ride firmness? Or could it need new air cells? The struts are not leaking so they're OK. BTW, if anyone has a 1981 - 1985 W123 parts car (preferably a wagon) with a palomino interior he's looking for a decent front seats. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diagnosing 123 300TD bounciness (wagon)
Michael Hall wrote: Needs new nitrogen spheres - they rupture and cause exactly what you describe. I thought bad spheres caused zero suspension travel over bumps (the who replaced my shocks with solid metal? feeling) and if it had no damping, (the please pass the Dramamine feeling) the system was full of air.
Re: [MBZ] tranny filter/gasket kit interchangeability
kevin kraly wrote: I've got a tranny gasket and filter kit hangin' 'round that was ordered for my '78 300CD. Will this work with the '83 SD? Also, does this car have that dreaded tranny plug that also holds the filler/dipstick tube in place as the W123's do? No to the first question - not sure about the second. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Diagnosing 123 300TD bounciness (wagon)
Isn't it cool when you car be talking about a car and say cool words like, nitrogen spheres? Bob R - Original Message - From: Michael Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diagnosing 123 300TD bounciness (wagon) Needs new nitrogen spheres - they rupture and cause exactly what you describe. Mike On 12/12/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My friend in Atlanta has a ride/suspension problem with his 1985 300TD station wagon. The car bounces on rough roads but nothing dampens the oscillation so the bounciness persists way too long. Ordinarily this might be diagnosed as worn out shocks but the problem seems to be in the REAR and the car has a hydraulic suspension with struts and air cells in lieu of conventional rear shocks and springs. Is there some adjustable part in the rear suspension that controls ride firmness? Or could it need new air cells? The struts are not leaking so they're OK. BTW, if anyone has a 1981 - 1985 W123 parts car (preferably a wagon) with a palomino interior he's looking for a decent front seats. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com