Re: [MBZ] Gump gets lubed

2006-12-12 Thread Redghost
We are in deep doo doo if I have to pass it to him.  Been trying to get 
him interested in all sorts of old textbooks for auto shop and stuff.  
No interest.  Probably not a big issue, since we will all be too poor 
to afford fuel and cars in a few years.  Public transport all around!


On Dec 10, 2006, at 5:07 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:

Like a salmon returning from the sea, your life is nearing its end.  
It's
best you pass on your genetic comprehension of the Benz's inner 
working to

your progeny.

On 12/10/06, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Still takes me two hands to get a grip, but I am old and infirm





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Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip

2006-12-12 Thread Redghost
Take the 126 for the leg room and comfort of cruising like a tank.  
That 124 is sporty and gets cramped after five or six hours.


On Dec 10, 2006, at 7:24 PM, OK Don wrote:


Yes - OR or WA (or both) this summer. The question then becomes, the
124 at 33 mpg., or the 126 at 26 mpg Decisions, decisions!

On 12/10/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 21:03:45 -0600 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


This still didn't seem like much of a workout for the car. Where's a
mountain range when you want one???


Go west, young man ...


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] Gump gets lubed

2006-12-12 Thread Rich Thomas

Send them to me.  I'll be your knowledgeable proto-child.

-R

Redghost wrote:
We are in deep doo doo if I have to pass it to him.  Been trying to get 
him interested in all sorts of old textbooks for auto shop and stuff.  
No interest.
  





[MBZ] cheap 124 wagon

2006-12-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader
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So, this afternoon I bid on an auction and was the high bidder with 8 seconds 
left until someone over bid me.  No big deal.  But then, 5 minutes after the 
auction closed, I received a second chance offer for the price of my high bid.  
HUH?  WTF?  I'm thinking this was a shil bid, and the guy is trying to get 
another $13 out of me.  Any thoughts?

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Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction

2006-12-12 Thread Jeff Zedic

Was it a big dollar transaction?? There's a LOT of phishing scams using the
second chance feature and a hacked eBay acount.

Beware!


Jeff Zedic
Toronto


Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction

2006-12-12 Thread Sunil Hari

SHA-HILL!

yeah, that's a-smelling like a shill.

On 12/11/06, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


So, this afternoon I bid on an auction and was the high bidder with 8
seconds left until someone over bid me.  No big deal.  But then, 5 minutes
after the auction closed, I received a second chance offer for the price of
my high bid.  HUH?  WTF?  I'm thinking this was a shil bid, and the guy is
trying to get another $13 out of me.  Any thoughts?

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'83 300SD (241 kmi)
'82 300CD (162 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work
'85 300D (280,176) parts car

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Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip (what did who break?)

2006-12-12 Thread OK Don

Damage to my wallet from paying for the items my wife picked out -
must be an Okie saying ---



Seeing no one else has spoken up.Damage at the Will Rogers museum?

Details...How, what, why, huh?

Mike


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Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction

2006-12-12 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Either that or fake 2nd chance offer. Happened to me once on a $20 book. 
Ebay warns of 2nd chance offers, best of to go back to the original ad and 
contact the seller through that to ensure it is a genuine offer.


- Original Message - 
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Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction



SHA-HILL!

yeah, that's a-smelling like a shill.

On 12/11/06, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


So, this afternoon I bid on an auction and was the high bidder with 8




Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip

2006-12-12 Thread OK Don

OK - I might need to try that route. I have been driving 412 from
Tulsa to Mountain Home. Lots of curves, but no climbs worthy of
remembrance.

On 12/11/06, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

When's the last time you drove I-540 from Alma to Fayetteville?  There's  the 
one hill leading to the tunnel.  3 miles at a solid 80% full throttle to 
maintain 70mph.  Slows nearly all semis to 50mph or less.  Full throttle will 
generally gain about 1mph per 5 seconds or so with my SD, slightly better with 
the CD.  The very next hill (north bound) is just as steep, if not more so, but 
shorter...only 1.5 miles.  That's about the best you can findunless you run 
the gorgeous Highway 71 between Alma and Fay...





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Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip

2006-12-12 Thread OK Don

Yup - life has gotten really rough --
There will be two of us - I guess it will depend on whether we take
the Folbot or not, though I'm leaning towards the 126 regardless.

On 12/11/06, kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

124 at 33 mpg., or the 126 at 26 mpg

Life's tough, ain't it?  I guess it'd depend on how many passengers,
luggage, etc you were taking, and which car is the most comfortable.  I
would say it's the W126 SDL hands down, especially for the rear seat
passengers if there are any.  It's got the biggest trunk if you happened to
find some parts along the way.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR


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Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip (what did who break?)

2006-12-12 Thread Michael Hall

I understood, so it works in TN.

Mike

On 12/11/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Damage to my wallet from paying for the items my wife picked out -
must be an Okie saying ---


 Seeing no one else has spoken up.Damage at the Will Rogers museum?

 Details...How, what, why, huh?

 Mike

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Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip

2006-12-12 Thread OK Don

Well, he did have the opportunity last year to buy a 123 hood and
grill from Kaleb - but doesn't tailgate anymore! Since buying wheels
and tires for the 124, he doesn't mess with the CD player or radio
while driving anymore either -- other than those two incidents, he's
been a remarkably good driver for his age. Not much more damage than
his older sisters did in their first few years of driving.

On 12/11/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

That is if #1 son turns out to be a good driver. Otherwise, you might need 
extras.

Randy (who has 2 sons who have not turned out to be too bad in that regard)





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[MBZ] Upper Control Arm Bushing

2006-12-12 Thread Bill Gallagher
The Left upper control arm bushing is gone...Judging by my limited 
skills on suspension forces, this looks like a fairly straight forward 
job ... remove the nut, bang and slide out the bolt, the arm drops a bit 
or support arm in position with shims, remove the old bushings, install 
the new and try to put the bolt through the bushing, metal tube, and 
final bushing. Tighten nut ... sounds like a 20 minute job but will 
really take me a hour  Am I in the ball park on this job ?


   I will also change the upper left, it looks not well .
TIA

Bill
1981 300 TD




Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip (what did who break?)

2006-12-12 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
No, I have heard that saying in the northeast-What are my damages? I knew
what you meant. I have also heard said to a clerk, Damage me up
Dwight


Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI 02852


Damage to my wallet from paying for the items my wife picked out -
must be an Okie saying ---



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Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction

2006-12-12 Thread Luther
Hrm, I'll try that method.  This is a $97 auction, not much, but still

Luther

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:49:21 -0600, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Either that or fake 2nd chance offer. Happened to me once on a $20 book.
 Ebay warns of 2nd chance offers, best of to go back to the original ad and
 contact the seller through that to ensure it is a genuine offer.

 - Original Message -
 From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:45 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction


 SHA-HILL!

 yeah, that's a-smelling like a shill.

 On 12/11/06, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So, this afternoon I bid on an auction and was the high bidder with 8




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'83 300SD (241 kmi)
'82 300CD (162 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work
'85 300D (280,176) parts car



Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction

2006-12-12 Thread Peter Frederick
It's happened to me, sometimes it's just a bid retraction, or the 
winner asks not to get it.


Could be fraud, is it worth the $13 to you?  If not, don't buy it.

Peter




Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip (what did who break?)

2006-12-12 Thread Mike Canfield

Gotcha now.


MikeSometimes a little slow but does catch on.
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Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip (what did who break?)



I understood, so it works in TN.

Mike

On 12/11/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Damage to my wallet from paying for the items my wife picked out -
must be an Okie saying ---


 Seeing no one else has spoken up.Damage at the Will Rogers museum?

 Details...How, what, why, huh?

 Mike

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Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction

2006-12-12 Thread Peter Frederick
A genuine second chance will also be sent via eBay to your messages 
there in MyEbay.


Peter




Re: [MBZ] FW: How to tell a non-turbo from a turbo diesel?

2006-12-12 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 12/11/2006 1:43:30 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

What I  mean is how can one tell that the installed long block is
actually a turbo  diesel?

I bought a 1983 300D turbo from the back lot of a repair shop.  Looking
under the hood - it appears that the engine has been replaced. The  car
has never been as strong as my 116 300SD - which will run off and  hide
from this 300D. The turbo appears fine and even sound like it  is
working.



On Turbos the most solid clue would be the oil nozzles that are found at  the 
base of each cylinder, and when the piston comes down, cooling oil is pumped  
through the piston.  You would be able to see a couple by removing the  small 
oil pan.  
 
From the exterior, a check of the engine number, stamped in the block,  
drivers side rear, just below the head, should be helpful.  Also, on top of  
the 
injection pump would reside an ALDA, which is connected by tubing to the  
intake 
manifold, for boost compensation.  A non turbo injection would use  an ADA, 
open to the atmosphere for barometric compensation only.  It does  sound like 
your ALDA needs adjusting, and/or the boost signal is not reaching  the ALDA
 
Regards,  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 264 K miles 
98 ML 320, 146 K  miles



Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip

2006-12-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

I forgot about hammet house and the memorial.  Thats a good place to go.

OK Don wrote:


We took the 300D 2.5 to buy a set of wheels for the SLC from Kaleb
today. There are plenty of hills in his part of the State, the trip is
160 miles one way, so I thought this would be an opportunity to help
burn some more carbon out. The traffic was heavier than I expected,
and the hills less demanding than I had hoped. Downshifting to third
let me drive up the hills at red line - but it seemed too easy.
Keeping it in fourth and flooring it on the steeper hills resulted in
speeds in excess of 90, when there was no one blocking me. This still
didn't seem like much of a workout for the car. Where's a mountain
range when you want one???

Anyway, the drive was otherwise un-eventful. Kaleb was wrenching on
the latest 300D 2.5, he looks good in grease and Diesel carbon. he has
several interesting projects in mid stream.

I scored the four wheels for a very good price, even considering the
$24.00 in fuel, tolls, eating at a good restaurant in Claremore (the
Hammon House, NOT the waffle place), and the damage done in the gift
shop of the Will Rogers museum. Thanks, Kaleb.



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Re: [MBZ] FW: How to tell a non-turbo from a turbo diesel?

2006-12-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

you have a plugged ALDA line.  Clean that out and you should be good to go.

Black, Waylon wrote:

Aside from the obvious.

What I mean is how can one tell that the installed long block is
actually a turbo diesel?

I bought a 1983 300D turbo from the back lot of a repair shop. Looking
under the hood - it appears that the engine has been replaced. The car
has never been as strong as my 116 300SD - which will run off and hide
from this 300D. The turbo appears fine and even sound like it is
working.

The 300D's power is somewhere between my mom's 240D and my SD. What I
expect a 300D non-turbo would be like. Engine is silky smooth, starts
easily in freezing temps, etc.

I have heard/read that if you add the turbo hardware to a non-turbo
motor, the power increase will be little to none as the additional air
will not have the additional fuel required by the turbo motors(IP and
injectors).

I can see where a sleazy shop would/could by a non-turbo
engine(cheaper), add the hardware/oil pan but not replace install the
turbo's injectors/IP(no need to adjust timing).

Any thoughts opinions are welcomed.

Waylon Black
Little Elm, Texas

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Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction

2006-12-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Could be a shill.  I often send 2nd chance offers if I have more than 
one of an item though.


Hendrik Riessen wrote:

Either that or fake 2nd chance offer. Happened to me once on a $20 book. 
Ebay warns of 2nd chance offers, best of to go back to the original ad and 
contact the seller through that to ensure it is a genuine offer.


- Original Message - 
From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction




SHA-HILL!

yeah, that's a-smelling like a shill.

On 12/11/06, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


So, this afternoon I bid on an auction and was the high bidder with 8



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Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip

2006-12-12 Thread OK Don

Yup - mile high pie - got my attention right away!

On 12/11/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I forgot about hammet house and the memorial.  Thats a good place to go.




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Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip

2006-12-12 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:05:01 -0600 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yup - life has gotten really rough --
 There will be two of us - I guess it will depend on whether we take
 the Folbot or not, though I'm leaning towards the 126 regardless.

Folbot?


Craig



Re: [MBZ] 62 190D

2006-12-12 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 06:58:27 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone into these cars?  One on the west coast sounds pretty good. 
 Poonton  or ponton or wonton what ever they call them.  Needs some work
 but migh make  a nice daily driver
 Does not come with abs, a turbo GPS or Ipod hook up though.  Let me know
 directly and I will relay information [EMAIL PROTECTED]

So how much is the guy asking? And it's ponton, by the way.


Craig



Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip

2006-12-12 Thread OK Don

TOO much fun! It fits in the trunk - a sea-worthy boat for two. It's
more work (paddling) than the sailboat (sailing), but a lot less to
deal with (no trailer).

http://www.folbot.com/greenland2.html

http://www.folbot.com/assembly.html


On 12/11/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:05:01 -0600 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yup - life has gotten really rough --
 There will be two of us - I guess it will depend on whether we take
 the Folbot or not, though I'm leaning towards the 126 regardless.

Folbot?


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] 62 190D

2006-12-12 Thread OK Don

Isn't ponton German (or Mercedes) for uni-body?



So how much is the guy asking? And it's ponton, by the way.



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Re: [MBZ] lane sharing and lane splitting (was: Re: Good feelings)

2006-12-12 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:42:27 -0800 ernest breakfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 lane sharing; multiple vehicles simultaneously in between the same pair 
 of painted lane lines. (legal in California).
 lane splitting; cutting between vehicles in different lanes.

 many people use the term Lane Splitting to mean either of the above,
 when what they're generally talking about could be more correctly called
 White Lining.

You mean, instead of,


 
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Craig



Re: [MBZ] lane sharing and lane splitting

2006-12-12 Thread David Brodbeck
I think the terms are used to refer to motorcycles and narrow vehicles
like that. If I understand properly, lane sharing would be riding
two-abreast in the same lane.  Lane splitting would be riding in
between the travel lanes, like to squeeze between cars that are stopped
in traffic.  I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.



[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices

2006-12-12 Thread Tom Hargrave


Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 

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Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 1:55 PM
To: Weekly Highway Diesel Prices
Subject: Today's Diesel Prices

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  On-highway diesel prices, by week and PADD
(Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes)

Diesel Prices Web URL:
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp   


  US

 NATL  EASTNEWCENTLOWER   GULF   ROCKY   WEST

 DATEAVG   COAST ENGLAND   ATL ATL   MIDWEST  COAST   MTN   COAST
CA  

   PADD   PADDPADDPADDPADDPADDPADD   PADD

 I IA  IB  IC  II III  IV V

--  -  - ---  -   -  ---  -  -  -
-

061211  2.621  2.610  2.749   2.730   2.546   2.563   2.540  2.724  2.931
2.963
061204  2.618  2.610  2.716   2.717   2.555   2.578   2.537  2.707  2.860
2.860
061127  2.567  2.537  2.634   2.652   2.479   2.554   2.490  2.680  2.760
2.710
061120  2.553  2.521  2.625   2.638   2.461   2.554   2.469  2.647  2.724
2.690
061113  2.552  2.530  2.616   2.643   2.473   2.562   2.470  2.623  2.673
2.677
061106  2.506  2.508  2.613   2.628   2.448   2.493   2.449  2.577  2.606
2.637
061030  2.517  2.530  2.629   2.646   2.472   2.501   2.462  2.577  2.602
2.645
061023  2.524  2.537  2.636   2.651   2.480   2.502   2.477  2.563  2.628
2.669
061016  2.503  2.521  2.623   2.636   2.462   2.459   2.461  2.539  2.655
2.703
061009  2.506  2.533  2.649   2.654   2.471   2.448   2.446  2.584  2.697
2.751
061002  2.546  2.567  2.678   2.694   2.503   2.467   2.490  2.679  2.789
2.835
060925  2.595  2.600  2.730   2.746   2.526   2.506   2.526  2.827  2.892
2.910
060918  2.713  2.699  2.832   2.844   2.625   2.624   2.636  3.052  3.014
3.002
060911  2.857  2.826  2.955   2.958   2.757   2.787   2.770  3.236  3.137
3.125
060904  2.967  2.911  3.009   3.032   2.850   2.937   2.872  3.318  3.199
3.175
060828  3.027  2.955  3.035   3.074   2.897   3.026   2.923  3.346  3.229
3.200
060821  3.033  2.953  3.049   3.078   2.890   3.041   2.923  3.349  3.237
3.221
060814  3.065  3.017  3.077   3.130   2.964   3.065   2.974  3.311  3.218
3.220
060807  3.055  3.026  3.061   3.104   2.989   3.070   2.988  3.208  3.113
3.130
060731  2.980  2.958  2.991   3.030   2.924   2.988   2.925  3.052  3.066
3.093
060724  2.946  2.925  2.972   3.002   2.888   2.951   2.895  2.987  3.047
3.097
060717  2.926  2.906  2.970   2.992   2.864   2.927   2.868  2.960  3.051
3.097
060710  2.918  2.887  2.947   2.963   2.849   2.919   2.866  2.966  3.060
3.113
060703  2.898  2.874  2.948   2.951   2.834   2.887   2.845  2.958  3.056
3.119
060626  2.867  2.864  2.952   2.956   2.816   2.819   2.822  2.960  3.068
3.140
060619  2.915  2.907  2.960   2.990   2.867   2.873   2.859  3.018  3.117
3.185
060612  2.918  2.909  2.979   2.997   2.866   2.874   2.848  3.041  3.149
3.217
060605  2.890  2.881  2.969   2.992   2.825   2.837   2.805  3.043  3.159
3.227
060529  2.882  2.873  2.966   2.987   2.815   2.824   2.798  3.044  3.161
3.227
060522  2.888  2.877  2.982   2.987   2.820   2.836   2.801  3.024  3.175
3.234
060515  2.920  2.907  3.003   3.014   2.853   2.870   2.829  3.074  3.192
3.242
060508  2.897  2.884  2.972   2.983   2.834   2.841   2.814  3.054  3.180
3.244
060501  2.896  2.892  2.979   2.987   2.843   2.853   2.832  3.012  3.098
3.163
060424  2.876  2.888  2.961   2.978   2.843   2.847   2.817  2.903  3.026
3.103
060417  2.765  2.788  2.865   2.876   2.743   2.735   2.725  2.756  2.881
2.933
060410  2.654  2.676  2.769   2.767   2.629   2.614   2.601  2.680  2.812
2.881
060403  2.617  2.639  2.731   2.727   2.593   2.578   2.579  2.629  2.753
2.812
060327  2.565  2.586  2.700   2.681   2.536   2.523   2.528  2.601  2.698
2.727
060320  2.581  2.606  2.702   2.697   2.558   2.533   2.552  2.608  2.716
2.738
060313  2.543  2.567  2.687   2.681   2.507   2.491   2.497  2.566  2.725
2.747
060306  2.545  2.571  2.656   2.682   2.516   2.500   2.499  2.545  2.711
2.739
060227  2.471  2.493  2.593   2.593   2.441   2.417   2.443  2.509  2.623
2.688
060220  2.455  

Re: [MBZ] 62 190D

2006-12-12 Thread kevin kraly
I believe that Ponton is the German word for pontoon which these models 
resemble.


Kevin in Hillsboro, OR

1983 300SD 284K miles, Ursula 





Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction

2006-12-12 Thread Hendrik Riessen
How can you do that? Doesn't the ebay number remain the same with 2nd chance 
offers?


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction



Could be a shill.  I often send 2nd chance offers if I have more than
one of an item though.

Hendrik Riessen wrote:


Either that or fake 2nd chance offer. Happened to me once on a $20 book.
Ebay warns of 2nd chance offers, best of to go back to the original ad 
and

contact the seller through that to ensure it is a genuine offer.

- Original Message - 
From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction




SHA-HILL!

yeah, that's a-smelling like a shill.

On 12/11/06, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


So, this afternoon I bid on an auction and was the high bidder with 8



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Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip (what did who break?)

2006-12-12 Thread Bob Rentfro

A general midwest saying

Bob R..former midwesterner

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip (what did who break?)



Damage to my wallet from paying for the items my wife picked out -
must be an Okie saying ---



Seeing no one else has spoken up.Damage at the Will Rogers museum?

Details...How, what, why, huh?

Mike


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Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip (what did who break?)

2006-12-12 Thread Mike Canfield
General saying all over the USAI just didn't catch onHad Banned on 
my mind and figured there must be a good story of something getting broken 
or some other similar catastrophe...


Mike(Who sometimes reads into stuff a bit too far...)
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A general midwest saying

Bob R..former midwesterner

- Original Message - 
From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip (what did who break?)



Damage to my wallet from paying for the items my wife picked out -
must be an Okie saying ---



Seeing no one else has spoken up.Damage at the Will Rogers museum?

Details...How, what, why, huh?

Mike


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Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip

2006-12-12 Thread Bob Rentfro

Those look sweet.
Just the thing to purchase after I win the lottery and
I am able to move out of the desert and live next to water.

Bob R

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Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Okie Benz trip



TOO much fun! It fits in the trunk - a sea-worthy boat for two. It's
more work (paddling) than the sailboat (sailing), but a lot less to
deal with (no trailer).

http://www.folbot.com/greenland2.html

http://www.folbot.com/assembly.html


On 12/11/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:05:01 -0600 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yup - life has gotten really rough --
 There will be two of us - I guess it will depend on whether we take
 the Folbot or not, though I'm leaning towards the 126 regardless.

Folbot?


Craig


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[MBZ] Batteries

2006-12-12 Thread Levi Smith

Couple interesting battery items:

-Got a new battery for my 83' 300D as the old one wasn't up to below
freezing temps.  Ended up getting it from Advance for $70 as there's had a 3
year free replacment instead of the 2 year at Autozone and bother were 7
year prorated.
What's the Reserve rating?  I know I've seen it say minutes before, but
minutes at what level of power usage?

-Did the Desulfate option on the old battery.  Seemed to be pushing some
water out of the positive terminal of the battery, but not a lot.  Also
possible that was during the charging stage, but I didn't notice it until I
did the desulfate option.  What would cause that?

-My Subaru's been neglected while I've been driving the Benz and the Optima
I had in there went dead over the last stint.  Went to charge it yesterday
and it was taking a good 30+ amps for a while, then seemed to slow down.
Left it on there overnight and was sure it would be done this morning, but
low and behold it was pumping in more than 20 amps and the battery was
REALLY hissing, blowing smoke (or steam or whatever) and smelled something
like eggs...
I'm assuming that's no a good sign and the battery is probably toast, but
what causes that?  I guess I thought the gel cells didn't really do that...

Levi (:


Re: [MBZ] cheap 124 wagon

2006-12-12 Thread Bob Rentfro

Hu...

So...all you savy, saged buy-non-running-car dudes
what, generally, does will not run smooth and overheats translate into in 
the way of repairs needed?



Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 164K
'87 Acura Legend  179K
Litchfield Park, AZ


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 5:39 PM
Subject: [MBZ] cheap 124 wagon



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-wagon-mercedes-benz-300te-NOT-RUNNING_W0QQitemZ330061496660QQihZ014QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Re: [MBZ] cheap 124 wagon

2006-12-12 Thread Jim Cathey

So...all you savy, saged buy-non-running-car dudes
what, generally, does will not run smooth and overheats translate 
into in

the way of repairs needed?


Blown head and/or gasket?

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction

2006-12-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

no

Hendrik Riessen wrote:

How can you do that? Doesn't the ebay number remain the same with 2nd chance 
offers?


- Original Message - 
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction




Could be a shill.  I often send 2nd chance offers if I have more than
one of an item though.

Hendrik Riessen wrote:



Either that or fake 2nd chance offer. Happened to me once on a $20 book.
Ebay warns of 2nd chance offers, best of to go back to the original ad 
and

contact the seller through that to ensure it is a genuine offer.

- Original Message - 
From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] interesting eBay transaction





SHA-HILL!

yeah, that's a-smelling like a shill.

On 12/11/06, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



So, this afternoon I bid on an auction and was the high bidder with 8



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81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, (2x) 84 190D 2.2,
 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net



Re: [MBZ] Batteries

2006-12-12 Thread Jim Cathey
-My Subaru's been neglected while I've been driving the Benz and the 
Optima
I had in there went dead over the last stint.  Went to charge it 
yesterday
and it was taking a good 30+ amps for a while, then seemed to slow 
down.
Left it on there overnight and was sure it would be done this morning, 
but

low and behold it was pumping in more than 20 amps and the battery was
REALLY hissing, blowing smoke (or steam or whatever) and smelled 
something

like eggs...
I'm assuming that's no a good sign and the battery is probably toast, 
but
what causes that?  I guess I thought the gel cells didn't really do 
that...


It's dead, Jim.  30+ amps is too hot a charge for unattended use,
for safety reasons.  (Nor does it do them any good either, most 
batteries
prefer being charged at well under 10% of their AH rating.)  A good 
6-10A
charger is all you need for regular use.  The hot chargers are mostly 
for

the I can't wait crowd, like mechanics on flat rate.

No lead-acid battery likes being run flat, it's just that the Optimas
tolerate it a little better than the others.  They're also sealed
better (unless you cook them), and will run in any position.  But
they cost a lot more, and have less capacity than regulars.  Treated
well they will probably last longer.  (And by well, run flat and
then cooked doesn't qualify! :-)

I have either a charge maintainer or a knife switch on our vehicles
that don't see regular service.

I hate batteries.  My electric shaver plugs in.  Norelco 2-header
from the late 50's, was my grandfather's.  Now _that's_ service!

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Batteries

2006-12-12 Thread Levi Smith

Hmm, what is the AH rating on these batteries?  This is/was an 850CCA
battery  I was figuring that at that rating 40amps wouldn't be that
high, but then I guess I was confusing AH with CA...  It is a smart charger
and should only put in what is needed.  It doesn't normally put that much
amperage into anything unless it's WAY low on power...  (And I selected that
high a charge)

They do seem to last pretty well.  I was just thinking that the other day
when my wife reminded me that we changed the one in her Sube before in 99'
or 00' at the latest and it's still going strong.  Hers isn't an Optima, but
is a gel cell Champion or something...

Levi

On 12/12/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 -My Subaru's been neglected while I've been driving the Benz and the
 Optima
 I had in there went dead over the last stint.  Went to charge it
 yesterday
 and it was taking a good 30+ amps for a while, then seemed to slow
 down.
 Left it on there overnight and was sure it would be done this morning,
 but
 low and behold it was pumping in more than 20 amps and the battery was
 REALLY hissing, blowing smoke (or steam or whatever) and smelled
 something
 like eggs...
 I'm assuming that's no a good sign and the battery is probably toast,
 but
 what causes that?  I guess I thought the gel cells didn't really do
 that...

It's dead, Jim.  30+ amps is too hot a charge for unattended use,
for safety reasons.  (Nor does it do them any good either, most
batteries
prefer being charged at well under 10% of their AH rating.)  A good
6-10A
charger is all you need for regular use.  The hot chargers are mostly
for
the I can't wait crowd, like mechanics on flat rate.

No lead-acid battery likes being run flat, it's just that the Optimas
tolerate it a little better than the others.  They're also sealed
better (unless you cook them), and will run in any position.  But
they cost a lot more, and have less capacity than regulars.  Treated
well they will probably last longer.  (And by well, run flat and
then cooked doesn't qualify! :-)

I have either a charge maintainer or a knife switch on our vehicles
that don't see regular service.

I hate batteries.  My electric shaver plugs in.  Norelco 2-header
from the late 50's, was my grandfather's.  Now _that's_ service!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Batteries

2006-12-12 Thread Werner Fehlauer

Levi -
cooking batteries is definitely NOT healthy!  The heat generated 
internally can warp plates and do other internal bad things.  A battery 
professional would recommend charging at a 2-3 Ampere rate for several 
days - that not only builds a good charge without excessive heating, but 
also chemically helps restore the plates by driving the sulfur back into 
solution.
Several years ago, I had a shop in Anchorage rebuild a 24V DC-3 battery (my 
old Army surplus generator needed a 24V battery) by replacing a few bad 
cells with good ones from a donor battery, and then charging at 2 Amps for 
MORE than a WEEK.  Battery worked well for several years after that!

Werner
'83SD 222K
'90D 227K

- Original Message - 
From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:07 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Batteries



Couple interesting battery items:

-Got a new battery for my 83' 300D as the old one wasn't up to below
freezing temps.  Ended up getting it from Advance for $70 as there's had a 
3

year free replacment instead of the 2 year at Autozone and bother were 7
year prorated.
What's the Reserve rating?  I know I've seen it say minutes before, but
minutes at what level of power usage?

-Did the Desulfate option on the old battery.  Seemed to be pushing some
water out of the positive terminal of the battery, but not a lot.  Also
possible that was during the charging stage, but I didn't notice it until 
I

did the desulfate option.  What would cause that?

-My Subaru's been neglected while I've been driving the Benz and the 
Optima

I had in there went dead over the last stint.  Went to charge it yesterday
and it was taking a good 30+ amps for a while, then seemed to slow down.
Left it on there overnight and was sure it would be done this morning, but
low and behold it was pumping in more than 20 amps and the battery was
REALLY hissing, blowing smoke (or steam or whatever) and smelled something
like eggs...
I'm assuming that's no a good sign and the battery is probably toast, but
what causes that?  I guess I thought the gel cells didn't really do 
that...


Levi (: 





[MBZ] OT: Grandfather

2006-12-12 Thread Rusty Cullens
I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella,  was born 
yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz.  20 3/4  tall. Everyone is super healthy 
and we are a blessed family this Christmas season. After our last year of 
deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change.


Rusty Cullens
BuyMBparts, Inc.
1-800-741-5252


Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather

2006-12-12 Thread Bob Rentfro

Congratulations, Grandpa.

Spoil her like mad, then return her to her parents

Bob R.


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Subject: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather


I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella,  was 
born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz.  20 3/4  tall. Everyone is super 
healthy and we are a blessed family this Christmas season. After our last 
year of deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change.



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Re: [MBZ] Batteries

2006-12-12 Thread Jim Cathey

Hmm, what is the AH rating on these batteries?  This is/was an 850CCA
battery  I was figuring that at that rating 40amps wouldn't be that
high, but then I guess I was confusing AH with CA...


Yes, you were.  The regular group 49 battery is something like
an 85-100 AH battery, and the Optimas are rated at less than that.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather

2006-12-12 Thread Sunil Hari

Congratulations Rusty!  Where can I send you a cigar?

Pictures?

And I second Bob's recommendation - that's the best part about being a
grandfather.


On 12/12/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Congratulations, Grandpa.

Spoil her like mad, then return her to her parents

Bob R.


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I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter,
Isabella,  was
born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz.  20 3/4  tall. Everyone is
super
healthy and we are a blessed family this Christmas season. After our last
year of deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather

2006-12-12 Thread BillR
Congratulations.  I was made a 4th time grandfather with a new
granddaughter, also an Isabella, in October.  Funny how names seem to switch
around in different generations.  You would probably not hear of a Bertha or
other such name common a couple of generations ago.  Makes you wonder what
the next generations will come up with.  Grandkids are great.  Have fun.
BillR
Jacksonville

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Subject: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather


I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella,  was
born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz.  20 3/4  tall. Everyone is super
healthy and we are a blessed family this Christmas season. After our last
year of deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather

2006-12-12 Thread Werner Fehlauer

Congratulations, Rusty!
Perhaps you should start looking for a good 240D for when she starts 
driving - they may be a bit scarce in the yea 2022??


Werner

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Subject: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather


I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella,  was 
born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz.  20 3/4  tall. Everyone is super 
healthy and we are a blessed family this Christmas season. After our last 
year of deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change.



Rusty Cullens
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1-800-741-5252





Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather

2006-12-12 Thread Luther

Utoh, we know where Rusty's hard earned money will be going.


--
Luther   KB5QHUAlma, Ark
'87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case?
'83 300SD (241 kmi)
'82 300CD (162 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work
'85 300D (280,176) parts car



Quoting Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella, 
 was born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz.  20 3/4  tall. 
Everyone is super healthy and we are a blessed family this Christmas 
season. After our last year of deaths and illnesses, this is a 
welcome change.



Rusty Cullens
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1-800-741-5252






Re: [MBZ] lane sharing and lane splitting

2006-12-12 Thread ernest breakfield

no.

   (jeeze, not *everyone* drives like Paris Hilton here! ;-)   )


cheers!
e


Craig McCluskey wrote:

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:42:27 -0800 ernest breakfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
lane sharing; multiple vehicles simultaneously in between the same pair 
of painted lane lines. (legal in California).

lane splitting; cutting between vehicles in different lanes.



  

many people use the term Lane Splitting to mean either of the above,
when what they're generally talking about could be more correctly called
White Lining.



You mean, instead of,


 
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you have,


 

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Craig

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Re: [MBZ] lane sharing and lane splitting

2006-12-12 Thread ernest breakfield

that's correct.


cheers!
e


David Brodbeck wrote:

I think the terms are used to refer to motorcycles and narrow vehicles
like that. If I understand properly, lane sharing would be riding
two-abreast in the same lane.  Lane splitting would be riding in
between the travel lanes, like to squeeze between cars that are stopped
in traffic.  I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.





Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather

2006-12-12 Thread Rusty Cullens
I already have one lined up!!!


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather


 Congratulations, Rusty!
 Perhaps you should start looking for a good 240D for when she starts
 driving - they may be a bit scarce in the yea 2022??

 Werner

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 Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 10:12 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather


 I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella,
was
 born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz.  20 3/4  tall. Everyone is
super
 healthy and we are a blessed family this Christmas season. After our last
 year of deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change.
 
 
  Rusty Cullens
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather

2006-12-12 Thread Rusty Cullens
Already has been, geez my wife can spend it faster than ya'll give it to me.


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Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather


 Utoh, we know where Rusty's hard earned money will be going.
 
 
 -- 
 Luther   KB5QHUAlma, Ark
 '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case?
 '83 300SD (241 kmi)
 '82 300CD (162 kmi)
 '82 300D  (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work
 '85 300D (280,176) parts car
 
 
 
 Quoting Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella, 
   was born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz.  20 3/4  tall. 
  Everyone is super healthy and we are a blessed family this Christmas 
  season. After our last year of deaths and illnesses, this is a 
  welcome change.
 
 
  Rusty Cullens
  BuyMBparts, Inc.
  1-800-741-5252
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather

2006-12-12 Thread Donald Snook
Rusty wrote: 

 

I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella,
was born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz.  20 3/4  tall. Everyone
is super healthy and we are a blessed family this Christmas season.
After our last year of deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change. 

 

Congratulations!  You know the best way to celebrate this wonderful
arrival? A sale on 126 parts especially tune-up maintenance parts like
plugs, wires, dist. Cap, rotor, and free shipping!! 

 

 

Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 133K 



Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather

2006-12-12 Thread R A Bennell
Congratulations! Much easier to be a grandparent than a parent. Enjoy!

Randy

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Subject: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather


I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella,  was born 
yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz.
 20 3/4  tall. Everyone is super healthy and we are a blessed family this 
Christmas season. After our last year
of deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change.


Rusty Cullens
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather

2006-12-12 Thread Rusty Cullens
Sounds like a good idea, how about EVERYTHING we have, is 10% off for the
rest of this week. All you have to do is call the order in, ask for me and
say you want the Isabella special. That'll do it.


- Original Message -
From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather


 Rusty wrote:



 I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella,
 was born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz.  20 3/4  tall. Everyone
 is super healthy and we are a blessed family this Christmas season.
 After our last year of deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change.



 Congratulations!  You know the best way to celebrate this wonderful
 arrival? A sale on 126 parts especially tune-up maintenance parts like
 plugs, wires, dist. Cap, rotor, and free shipping!!





 Donald H. Snook

 1990 300SEL 133K

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather

2006-12-12 Thread Luther
Yea, when the kid is sick or onry or crying, etc...you can just give 
her back to

her parents! :)


--
Luther   KB5QHUAlma, Ark
'87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case?
'83 300SD (241 kmi)
'82 300CD (162 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work
'85 300D (280,176) parts car



Quoting R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Congratulations! Much easier to be a grandparent than a parent. Enjoy!

Randy

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rusty Cullens
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:13 AM
To: Banned List; Mercedes Discussion List;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather


I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella, 
 was born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz.
 20 3/4  tall. Everyone is super healthy and we are a blessed 
family this Christmas season. After our last year

of deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change.


Rusty Cullens
BuyMBparts, Inc.
1-800-741-5252






[MBZ] M1 or Amsoil prices

2006-12-12 Thread Levi Smith

Hey Mike,
Did you say something about being able to get Amsoil for $5/quart?  I was
just out looking for some M1 and it seems to be more like $7+/quart now...
If Amsoil is just as good and cheaper, I'm all for that...

Or does anyone else know the best places to buy either?  Heck, for almost
$8/quart, I'll go back to my 5 gallon pails of Redline oil...

Levi


Re: [MBZ] Posted my wagon to eBay

2006-12-12 Thread E M

What happened with the wagon?
Zeb

On 07/12/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Nice presentation.  You might want to add a photo of the center dash to
show
the radio cassette and wood in the middle.  If these look good then that
might be worth another couple hundred bucks.

On 12/5/06, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Im not a real ebay guy, but I'm keeping my eye on it.

 Zeb

 On 05/12/06, TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Rght!
 
  Tim
  1982 300TD
  1991 300TE 4Matic
 
  ===
  Message: 9
  Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 12:36:17 -0500
  From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  I'm gonna throw my hat into the ring. The reserve is $500, right ;-)?
 
  Mac (channelling Kaleb)
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather

2006-12-12 Thread Bob Rentfro

WOO HOO!

Bob R


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Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather



Sounds like a good idea, how about EVERYTHING we have, is 10% off for the
rest of this week. All you have to do is call the order in, ask for me and
say you want the Isabella special. That'll do it.


- Original Message -
From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather



Rusty wrote:



I am officially a first time grandfather. My granddaughter, Isabella,
was born yesterday and came in at 7lbs 11oz.  20 3/4  tall. Everyone
is super healthy and we are a blessed family this Christmas season.
After our last year of deaths and illnesses, this is a welcome change.



Congratulations!  You know the best way to celebrate this wonderful
arrival? A sale on 126 parts especially tune-up maintenance parts like
plugs, wires, dist. Cap, rotor, and free shipping!!





Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 133K

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Re: [MBZ] Batteries

2006-12-12 Thread David Brodbeck
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:04:53 -0500, Werner Fehlauer wrote
 Levi -
 cooking batteries is definitely NOT healthy!  The heat generated 
 internally can warp plates and do other internal bad things.

This is especially true of sealed batteries like Optimas.  If they get too 
hot, the safety vents pop and it's no longer sealed anymore.  Once water 
boils off this way, there's no way to replace it.

Generally speaking, sealed lead acid batteries will not tolerate as much 
charge current as non-sealed ones.  Gel cells, in particular, usually have 
some pretty specific restrictions on charging conditions.




[MBZ] Service manual library

2006-12-12 Thread Hans Neureiter

I don't know if this is widely publiszed, but it is a great tool to have,
thanks to Steve Nervig.
All my CD's are now accessible from one convenient place and no switching
from one disk to the other,
no digging through these cumbersome indexes and no hunting for pdf's which
are not listed.
It works for Mac's and Window PC's for all the MB CD's you have.
There is a read-me file with the downloads which makes it easy to install
everything.
Go to:
http://web.mac.com/dakota/iWeb/Mercedes/Indexes.html
servicev2.2.zip
W124v4.0zip
W126v1.2.zip
etc.

--
Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX
'82 300SD, '95 E300D


Re: [MBZ] 62 190D

2006-12-12 Thread ts

$2,800  no affilliation/Tom
Is that pronouced POOON  TON 


or PON  TON??
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 62 190D



On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 06:58:27 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anyone into these cars?  One on the west coast sounds pretty good. 
Poonton  or ponton or wonton what ever they call them.  Needs some work

but migh make  a nice daily driver
Does not come with abs, a turbo GPS or Ipod hook up though.  Let me know
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So how much is the guy asking? And it's ponton, by the way.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather

2006-12-12 Thread kevin kraly

Utoh, we know where Rusty's hard earned money will be going.

Utoh?

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 284K miles, Ursula
PS.  I guess it's time to order some diesel purge and a VC gasket now



[MBZ] tranny filter/gasket kit interchangeability

2006-12-12 Thread kevin kraly
I've got a tranny gasket and filter kit hangin' 'round that was ordered for 
my '78 300CD.  Will this work with the '83 SD?  Also, does this car have 
that dreaded tranny plug that also holds the filler/dipstick  tube in place 
as the W123's do?


Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 284k miles, Ursula 





Re: [MBZ] OT: Grandfather

2006-12-12 Thread kevin kraly

Congratulations, Rusty!

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300sD 284K miles, Ursula 



Re: [MBZ] Update Re: Red dash light for Battery is staying on

2006-12-12 Thread andrew strasfogel

Michael,

Can he also fix a Bosch 1970 W111 wiper motor that doesn't shut off properly
when in low-speed mode?  I


On 12/10/06, MICHAEL ESH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I pulled the alternator and will have it tested tomorrow at a local
shop.  The guy runs a one man auto electric shop and will even let you come
back and watch the procedure. He will often rebuild them on the spot. New
bushings,  electrics, diodes, rectifiers, and all that stuff.

Mike
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Re: [MBZ] Quick plugs

2006-12-12 Thread andrew strasfogel

So if you have 4 instead of 5 functional glow plugs will a 1983 300D start
or not?  If yes, then how will it run compared to if it had 5/5 functioning
GPs?



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LarryT -
If you only look at the 45 state/50 state controversy re: Diesels, then
the
ball is certainly mostly in the Government's court, albeit State
Governments.  But the decision to import and sell certain models is up to
the importer, such as MBUSA, etc.  And it is apparent that MBUSA calls the
shots on this, since as the biggest overseas customer of D-C, they won't
likely be over-ruled by Stuttgart.
The fact that MBUSA is bringing in the Bluetec V6 in the E Class ONLY
seems
to be purely a marketing decision, IMO.  The very same engine is put into
the S Class cars in Germany, and both cars meet USA federal safety
requirements, with less fuel efficient engines.  The decision not to offer
a
S320CDI doesn't appear to have any governmental influence!
MBUSA is supposed to be offering an ML320CDI (non-bluetec), but that may
be
both because of vehicle weight classification and image (an SUV doesn't
need to appear as luxurious as the vaunted S Class!)

Werner
'83SD; '90D

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Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Quick plugs


 Marshall wrote:The very latest plugs (can't be retrofitted to most
older
 engines) are said to
 start diesels reliably down to -30 deg. C with less than 5 sec glow.

 That explains why testers of the new 320 Bluetec were unable to tell if
 they
 were driving a diesel or not!   Jim Mahaffey (a regular poster to prev
MB
 email lists) did a road test of the 2007 320 Bluetec and said no
 scent-trail, no ignition clatter, no glow plug warm up, not a hint of
 soot... in the latest The Star magazine.
 and it gets ~37mpg.

 The advances made in diesel design during the past 20-30 years has been
 amazing IMHO.  Let's hope the govt makes it easier to sell/by new diesel
 engined vehicles.  As Werner posted last week, there's a plethora of
 diesel
 vehicles available.  Hopefully the manufactureres will decide to jump
thru
 the environmental  safety hoops to sell here.

 Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)


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Re: [MBZ] tranny filter/gasket kit interchangeability

2006-12-12 Thread Rusty Cullens
No, not interchangeable, sorry.


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Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 4:01 PM
Subject: [MBZ] tranny filter/gasket kit interchangeability


 I've got a tranny gasket and filter kit hangin' 'round that was ordered
for
 my '78 300CD.  Will this work with the '83 SD?  Also, does this car have
 that dreaded tranny plug that also holds the filler/dipstick  tube in
place
 as the W123's do?

 Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
 1983 300SD 284k miles, Ursula


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[MBZ] Recording Video

2006-12-12 Thread LarryT

Howdy -
I love many of the car related videos we see links to so often but am 
frustrated at the difficulty downloading them and saving them in a format 
that'll  be easy to play at our convienence.


One of my Computer Newsletters had this today -
http://store.worldstart.com/product.php?productid=2576   Wow, do we have a 
cool title for you today! I was so excited when I first heard about this 
one - I couldn't wait to get the sample in the door! What's got me so 
excited today? Internet Video Recorder! This amazing program makes recording 
streaming video off the internet simple and easy.What I love about this is 
it seems like my friends are always sending me links to funny videos, 
hilarious flash presentations (you know, those cartoon like impersonation 
vids), or even just a cool music video. With this software, it's easy to 
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Re: [MBZ] tranny filter/gasket kit interchangeability

2006-12-12 Thread kevin kraly

No, not interchangeable, sorry.

Dang!  I guess I'll be ordering that tomorrow as well.  It's shifting very 
well, and I want to keep it that way with some M1 synthetic and a new 
filter.


Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 284K miles, Ursula 





[MBZ] Diagnosing 123 300TD bounciness (wagon)

2006-12-12 Thread andrew strasfogel

My friend in Atlanta has a ride/suspension problem with his 1985 300TD
station wagon.  The car bounces on rough roads but nothing dampens the
oscillation so the bounciness persists way too long.  Ordinarily this might
be diagnosed as worn out shocks but the problem seems to be in the REAR and
the car has a hydraulic suspension with struts and air cells in lieu of
conventional rear shocks and springs.  Is there some adjustable part in the
rear suspension that controls ride firmness?  Or could it need new air
cells?  The struts are not leaking so they're OK.

BTW, if anyone has a 1981 - 1985 W123 parts car (preferably a wagon) with a
palomino interior he's looking for a decent front seats.


Re: [MBZ] Diagnosing 123 300TD bounciness (wagon)

2006-12-12 Thread Michael Hall

Needs new nitrogen spheres - they rupture and cause exactly what you
describe.

Mike

On 12/12/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


My friend in Atlanta has a ride/suspension problem with his 1985 300TD
station wagon.  The car bounces on rough roads but nothing dampens the
oscillation so the bounciness persists way too long.  Ordinarily this
might
be diagnosed as worn out shocks but the problem seems to be in the REAR
and
the car has a hydraulic suspension with struts and air cells in lieu of
conventional rear shocks and springs.  Is there some adjustable part in
the
rear suspension that controls ride firmness?  Or could it need new air
cells?  The struts are not leaking so they're OK.

BTW, if anyone has a 1981 - 1985 W123 parts car (preferably a wagon) with
a
palomino interior he's looking for a decent front seats.
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Re: [MBZ] Diagnosing 123 300TD bounciness (wagon)

2006-12-12 Thread Mitch Haley


Michael Hall wrote:
 
 Needs new nitrogen spheres - they rupture and cause exactly what you
 describe.

I thought bad spheres caused zero suspension travel over bumps 
(the who replaced my shocks with solid metal? feeling) and
if it had no damping, (the please pass the Dramamine feeling)
the system was full of air.




Re: [MBZ] tranny filter/gasket kit interchangeability

2006-12-12 Thread Marshall Booth

kevin kraly wrote:
I've got a tranny gasket and filter kit hangin' 'round that was ordered for 
my '78 300CD.  Will this work with the '83 SD?  Also, does this car have 
that dreaded tranny plug that also holds the filler/dipstick  tube in place 
as the W123's do?


No to the first question - not sure about the second.

Marshall
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Ass't Prof. (ret.)
Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
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Re: [MBZ] Diagnosing 123 300TD bounciness (wagon)

2006-12-12 Thread Bob Rentfro
Isn't it cool when you car be talking about a car and say cool words like, 
nitrogen spheres?


Bob R


- Original Message - 
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Needs new nitrogen spheres - they rupture and cause exactly what you
describe.

Mike

On 12/12/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


My friend in Atlanta has a ride/suspension problem with his 1985 300TD
station wagon.  The car bounces on rough roads but nothing dampens the
oscillation so the bounciness persists way too long.  Ordinarily this
might
be diagnosed as worn out shocks but the problem seems to be in the REAR
and
the car has a hydraulic suspension with struts and air cells in lieu of
conventional rear shocks and springs.  Is there some adjustable part in
the
rear suspension that controls ride firmness?  Or could it need new air
cells?  The struts are not leaking so they're OK.

BTW, if anyone has a 1981 - 1985 W123 parts car (preferably a wagon) with
a
palomino interior he's looking for a decent front seats.
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