Re: Implementing mailto:
At 6:50 PM +0100 9/24/00, Hugh Senior wrote: set the hideConsoleWindows to true if "NT" is in the systemVersion then set the shellCommand to "cmd.exe" put "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" into tAddress put quote "my Subject" quote into tSubject put quote "Hello." quote into tBody put "start mailto:" tAddress "?subject=" tSubject "?body=" tBody into tCom get shell(tCom) This worked first time as is. Okay, so Eudora doesn't handle the "?body" param, but who the hell cares! Yeesh... /H is hoppin' an' jumpin' at this point. The ONLY line of concern is "if NT is in the systemVersion". Is the shellCommand still "cmd.exe" for Win95, Win98 and Win2000? It looks like you can avoid this issue altogether if you follow Sjoerd's suggestion. (Thanks, Sjoerd. Nice one.) However, if you do go with the shell function, setting the shellCommand to "cmd.exe" is recommended for NT in the MC reference. I've never got any shell command to work on NT without setting it, so I'd suggest you do it. Don't set it for Win 95/98; the default is set to work for those. But I don't know for Win 2000. Luckily, no one I'm developing for (mainly corporates) has any plans to install Win 2000 until next year. Does anyone know? On the same topic, can anyone using Win 2000 tell us what is returned by the the systemVersion function? Cheers Dave Cragg Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard%40lists.best.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Feature request 14312: groupReferences property
Yes. From: Phil Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 14:00:35 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Feature request 14312: groupReferences property David Bovill wrote: As part of my campaign to make distributable components out of Metacard groups... I find myself dissatisfied with the way that Metacard looks for an object by name. I am at the moment writing for every single object reference that I script something like: put "hello" into fld "Text" of the owner of me The reason for this is just in case there is another field named text in the environment. Now this is beginning to annoy me as it is long winded. I would prefer "fld Text" to refer first to a field named text within the current group, and then anything in groups within any groups in that group, and not to something outside of the current group unless I explicitly say so. So this new thing would allow shorter references to objects within a group when more than one group exists, similar to the way "the defaultStack" allows shorter references to objects within a stack when you have multiple stacks open. So it kind of sharpens the focus of the reference, or more specifically defines their context. Correct? Now as this would clearly cause too many compatibility problems, how about a little change so that I can set an object property (stack or group), so that when "groupReferences is true" all references to controls are within the current group (ie the owner)? This should apply to numbers as well as names. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard%40lists.best.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list. -- Phil Davis --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] days: (503) 417-7930 eves: (503) 557-5656 --- Facilitator Essentials of eBusiness Computing Information Technology Institute http://www.iti.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard%40lists.best.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard%40lists.best.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: resizing and screen resolution
On 24/9/00 7:41 pm, Sjoerd Op 't Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed, but isn't there an AppleEvent for changin the resolution? There may be - but changing resolution with MC open is not supported. What you probably could do is create an AppleScript applet - as "do you want to change" on startup, run the applet, quit MC and the applet changes the resolution and relaunches the MC file / standalone. Regards, Kevin Sjoerd Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard%40lists.best.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Multiple resolutions
Just a brief follow-up, over the weekend I got two different sizes of my application to work pretty well. I'll go for a third tomorrow/today (it's pretty late). A few things I noticed are: MetaCard ROCKS! This feature was fairly easy to implement, and had only a few gotcha's along the way. If you expect a group to resize along with the objects it contains, don't lock its location. It worked the first couple times, then stopped resizing. I don't know what caused it to stop working, but unlocking the location fixed it. If you are using a group in the stack as the menu, expect problems when you resize the stack. The method that seemed to work for me was, I think: set the rect of the stack; this causes the menubar group to show. Then set the edit menus property of the stack to true, which seems to cause nothing to happen. Then set the edit menus property to false, which causes the group to disappear and the stack to resize. Don't mess with the rect of the stack while editing a group. You can place text with the group property into a field using the HTML text property: set the htmltext of fld "whatever" to someTextWithGroups. Works great, thanks Scott! Finally, I'm sending this from the mail application in Mac OS X. Who wants to touch me? :-) I haven't run MetaCard yet, because I don't have a Classic environment in which to do so. The iMac I'm running on had a nervous breakdown a week ago, and refuse(d) to realize that it could boot from its perfectly fine hard drive. Reformatting in the process of installing OS X fixed the no-boot thing, but leaves no Classic behind. By the way, 96MB of RAM, and so far so good... gc Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard%40lists.best.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: resizing and screen resolution
On Monday, September 25, 2000, at 04:21 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: There may be - but changing resolution with MC open is not supported. I'm curious what you mean by "not supported." While building an 800x600 version of my app's main window earlier today/yesterday, I was dropping from 1024x768 to 800x600 and back again repeatedly with MetaCard running, checking to see what I was doing, with seemingly no ill effects. So is it just that there aren't any known issues, but it's not officially supported, or is there actually something bad happening and I just didn't notice and/or dodged a bullet? gc Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard%40lists.best.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Implementing mailto: Mac
Thanks to Dave and Sjoerd for arriving at the elegant 2-line solution on a PC:
put word 1 to -2 of \
queryRegistry("hkey_local_machine\software\classes\mailto\shell\open\command
\") \
into tBrowserPath
launch "mailto:"tAddress with tBrowserPath
Now... Does anyone have the AppleEvent equivalent for a Mac?
/H
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Implementing mailto: Mac
Apologies - I see Craig already answered this back on 13.03.00: put "Mailto:"tAddress into tEmailAddress send tEmailAddress to program "Finder" with "GURLGURL" /H Hugh Senior The Flexible Learning Company Consultant Programming Software Solutions Fax/Voice: +44 (0)1483.27 87 27 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.flexibleLearning.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard%40lists.best.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
dll's
Hi since I've been playing with the xworlds external collection I've noticed the number of dll's installed on by computer. Is there any way to find out what these do and what parameters they take? The way I figure it if someones going to go to the trouble of filling up my computer with dll's then i might as well make the most of it. By the way I think the environment variables need to be better documented in the index (there is no listing of $0 or $1). I didn't realise that when you added an external to a stack it didn't actually import it until I was trying to open a standalone (that was meant to use EXT.exe) in front of a potential client. Probably more my fault than anyone else's but a bit more documentation would save a lot of support time. Regards Monte _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard%40lists.best.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: dll's
On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Monte Goulding wrote: Hi since I've been playing with the xworlds external collection I've noticed the number of dll's installed on by computer. Is there any way to find out what these do and what parameters they take? The way I figure it if someones going to go to the trouble of filling up my computer with dll's then i might as well make the most of it. You can't use any of them with MetaCard. They all take typed arguments, which would mean you'd have to learn and keep track of your ints and shorts and floats and pointers and such (if you've ever seen the mess that's become of the ToolBook scripting language because of their strong dependence on this, you'd surely puke). Furthermore, most of them are highly dependent on the application they were designed for and so the odds are that no more than a handful of them would be of any use at all anyway. By the way I think the environment variables need to be better documented in the index (there is no listing of $0 or $1). These are not really environment variables, but instead the parameters passed to the executable when it starts up. Which in 99% of the cases on Windows are either empty or just contain the name of a stack to open. The only way to really use them is by starting up an executable from the MSDOS prompt, and who does that? I didn't realise that when you added an external to a stack it didn't actually import it until I was trying to open a standalone (that was meant to use EXT.exe) in front of a potential client. Probably more my fault than anyone else's but a bit more documentation would save a lot of support time. I'm not sure I follow this. Maybe something to do with the differences between the way these things are done on the Windows and UNIX (externals are separate files) from the way they're done on the Mac (resources attached to a file). Regards, Scott Regards Monte _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Scott Raney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.metacard.com MetaCard: You know, there's an easier way to do that... Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard%40lists.best.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: resizing and screen resolution
On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Geoff Canyon wrote: On Monday, September 25, 2000, at 04:21 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: There may be - but changing resolution with MC open is not supported. I'm curious what you mean by "not supported." While building an 800x600 version of my app's main window earlier today/yesterday, I was dropping from 1024x768 to 800x600 and back again repeatedly with MetaCard running, checking to see what I was doing, with seemingly no ill effects. So is it just that there aren't any known issues, but it's not officially supported, or is there actually something bad happening and I just didn't notice and/or dodged a bullet? Actually it should be fine to do this on both Windows and Mac (UNIX/X11 doesn't support this anyway). The only serious issue that I can think of is that the new windowBoundingRect property isn't reset when you change the resolution, so windows may not always open in appropriate places. What probably *will* get you into trouble is changing the color depth (8/16/32). In particular changing in or out of 8-bit depth from either of the others will likely get you a psychedelic display though probably not a crash or other misbehavior. Regards, Scott gc Scott Raney [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.metacard.com MetaCard: You know, there's an easier way to do that... Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard%40lists.best.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: resizing and screen resolution
Thanks to Kevin and Geof and Gary, and others who replied offlist for their helpful suggestions. Setting the backdrop to black and shooting for an average screen resolution of around 800 x 600 seems the best bet. I hadnt realized the backdrop feature was available. I found it in supercard too! So thanks again. I'm a little worried that screen resolutions will simply continue to increase...but we are not the only ones with this problem I suppose. ALL my software, including my word processors, got very small at the 1000+ resolution. thanks again all, mark m. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard%40lists.best.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Another Dumb Question
Is a .dat file on Windows just a generic data file? Thanks Regards, Scott _ Scott Rossi Tactile Media - Multimedia Design Creative Director Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.tactilemedia.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard%40lists.best.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Implementing mailto: Mac
Thanks to Dave and Sjoerd for arriving at the elegant 2-line solution on a PC:
put word 1 to -2 of \
queryRegistry("hkey_local_machine\software\classes\mailto\shell\open\command
\") \
into tBrowserPath
launch "mailto:"tAddress with tBrowserPath
I think originally you wanted to do this within MC. I just found out there is nslookup
for windows (probably a port from Linux) which can be called with "shell()" and return
the mail server given the domain name([EMAIL PROTECTED]).
Nslookup is here: http://www.trumphurst.com/dnsocx/nslookup.exe
and the dos commands are :
Using nslookup, you can find the email server of your domain, as shown in the sample
session below.
Start a MS-DOS command prompt (in our case we use shell()) and type the nslookup
command:
C:\ nslookup
Default Server: youserver.yourdomain
Address: X.X.X.X
set type=MX
microsoft.com
microsoft.com MX preference = 10, mail exchanger =
mail1.microsoft.com
microsoft.com MX preference = 20, mail exchanger =
mail2.microsoft.com
microsoft.com MX preference = 30, mail exchanger =
mail3.microsoft.com
microsoft.com MX preference = 40, mail exchanger =
mail4.microsoft.com
microsoft.com MX preference = 50, mail exchanger =
mail5.microsoft.com
The lowest preference indicates the best (primary) mail server. A mailer would try
it first and if it
cannot connect to this server, it would use other servers (by order of
preference).
Now... Does anyone have the AppleEvent equivalent for a Mac?
I also found a perl script which gets the mail server name from InternetConfig. It
just needs to be translated into Metatalk:
use Mac::InternetConfig;
print $InternetConfig{kICSMTPHost()};
I tested it and it works I just don't know perl ;-)
/H
Hugh Senior
Regards, Andu
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Rookie question - mouseUp on unlocked field
Title: Rookie question - mouseUp on unlocked field Hi all I'm just fiddling around trying to learn how to use MC. I'm creating a simple temperature converter, and I've encountered a problem. My card consists of two fields (Degrees C and Degrees F), two labels(for the fields) and two buttons (Convert and Quit) If I understand the MetaTalk reference correctly (and it's more than likely I don't), an unlocked field doesn't receive mouseUp messages unless you hold down the ctrl key (I'm on a Mac). How then do I script the field to clear itself when I click in it? I've tried using a selectionChanged message handler, but it started acting weird. Here is the code I'm using. on selectionChanged #or mouseUp put empty into field Degrees C put empty into field Degrees F #I want it to clear both fields select field Degrees C end selectionChanged #or mouseUp My plan is that you click on either field and it clears both. You then enter whichever value you have (Centigrade or Fahrenheit) into the field, and click the Convert button. Depending on which field you entered, the Convert button calculates the result and populates the other. TIA Tim
Re: Rookie question - mouseUp on unlocked
Hi all I'm just fiddling around trying to learn how to use MC. I'm creating a simple temperature converter, and I've encountered a problem. My card consists of two fields (Degrees C and Degrees F), two labels(for the fields) and two buttons (Convert and Quit) If I understand the MetaTalk reference correctly (and it's more than likely I don't), an unlocked field doesn't receive mouseUp messages unless you hold down the ctrl key (I'm on a Mac). How then do I script the field to clear itself when I click in it? I've tried using a selectionChanged message handler, but it started acting weird. Here is the code I'm using. Tim, what you are trying to do is kind of against expectations but ... Imagine you entered the wrong number in one of the fields and you want to select some or all of it in order to delete/change it. Set the lockText of the fields to true when you click the Convert button; that would enable the fields to accept a mouseUp. In that mouseUp you can put empty into the 2 fields and set the lockText of them to false. on selectionChanged #or mouseUp put empty into field "Degrees C" put empty into field "Degrees F" #I want it to clear both fields select field "Degrees C"end selectionChanged #or mouseUp My plan is that you click on either field and it clears both. You then enter whichever value you have (Centigrade or Fahrenheit) into the field, and click the Convert button. Depending on which field you entered, the Convert button calculates the result and populates the other. TIA Tim Regards, Andu ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard%40lists.best.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
RE: Rookie question - mouseUp on unlocked
Title: RE: Rookie question - mouseUp on unlocked Of course, how simple! Thanks Andu -- From: andu Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 26 September 2000 13:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Rookie question - mouseUp on unlocked Hi all I'm just fiddling around trying to learn how to use MC. I'm creating a simple temperature converter, and I've encountered a problem. My card consists of two fields (Degrees C and Degrees F), two labels(for the fields) and two buttons (Convert and Quit) If I understand the MetaTalk reference correctly (and it's more than likely I don't), an unlocked field doesn't receive mouseUp messages unless you hold down the ctrl key (I'm on a Mac). How then do I script the field to clear itself when I click in it? I've tried using a selectionChanged message handler, but it started acting weird. Here is the code I'm using. Tim, what you are trying to do is kind of against expectations but ... Imagine you entered the wrong number in one of the fields and you want to select some or all of it in order to delete/change it. Set the lockText of the fields to true when you click the Convert button; that would enable the fields to accept a mouseUp. In that mouseUp you can put empty into the 2 fields and set the lockText of them to false. on selectionChanged #or mouseUp put empty into field Degrees C put empty into field Degrees F #I want it to clear both fields select field Degrees Cend selectionChanged #or mouseUp My plan is that you click on either field and it clears both. You then enter whichever value you have (Centigrade or Fahrenheit) into the field, and click the Convert button. Depending on which field you entered, the Convert button calculates the result and populates the other. TIA Tim Regards, Andu ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard%40lists.best.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Metacard Site Went Public
We went public tonite with our new Metacard site. You can see the announcement advertising "Mystic Mouse" on our daily web page. (and a picture of yours truly with our one of our books in Russian. http://www.gurudeva.org/today The site itself is at http://www.himalayanacademy.com/studyhall/ I really want to thank everyone for their support and help along the way. Can't believe how easy it was with MC and what a nightmare it would have been had we gone with a HTML/JAVA based platform. We still have a long ways to go. And it will be interesting to see if we can do a "paradigm" shift away from the misconception that web = netscape and or IE. Scott: I built the PPC with the latest build of 2.3.2b2.1 Let me know a month from how if you have any referrals from our domain form our MC advocacy page. Aloha from Hawaii. Hinduism Today Sivakatirswami Editor's Assistant/Production Manager www.HinduismToday.com www.HimalayanAcademy.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard%40lists.best.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
