Re: Smtpd use

2010-08-18 Thread openbsd
I use smtpd from OpenBSD 4.7 Release, it is why it doesn't work ?

On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 23:06:40 +0200, Gilles Chehade gil...@poolp.org
wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:24:37PM +0400, open...@e-solutions.re wrote:
 Hi,

 Today, i tried to build a mailserver for one domain : totoxx.org
 Here my smtpd.conf :
 
 listen on lo0
 listen on em0
 hostname puffymail.my.domain
 map aliases { source db /etc/mail/aliases.db }
 map virtual { source db /etc/mail/virtual.db }
 accept for local deliver to mbox
 accept from all for domain totoxx.org deliver to box
 
 I ve a user : contact on the box.
 
 And here my virtual file :
 cont...@totoxx.org:   contact
 
 I can receive mails. It works good.
 But how can i send mail? i need to use sendmail? How can i modify my
 configuration to send emails ?
 Thank's for your advices.
 
 
 your mail lacks essential information: what smtpd are you running ?
 is it current ? in which case your configuration is broken
 is it not current ? in which case you should run smtpd -current
 
 Gilles



Re: MTA choice

2010-08-18 Thread Henning Brauer
* Gregory Edigarov g...@bestnet.kharkov.ua [2010-08-17 09:29]:
 Qmail??? Postfix??? easiest to use Oh, please don't... I would
 even not give a dime to exim, which of the big guys I love the
 most, in the terms of ease of configure.  So now I definitelly see
 OpenSMTPD as a very viable alternative.   

exim is also the one with 80s design (even sendmail abandoned that)
and shit code.
pretty much ANYTHING else is a better choice.

-- 
Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org
BS Web Services, http://bsws.de
Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services
Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting



Re: MTA choice

2010-08-18 Thread Gregory Edigarov
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:07:58 +0200
Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote:

 * Gregory Edigarov g...@bestnet.kharkov.ua [2010-08-17 09:29]:
  Qmail??? Postfix??? easiest to use Oh, please don't... I would
  even not give a dime to exim, which of the big guys I love the
  most, in the terms of ease of configure.  So now I definitelly see
  OpenSMTPD as a very viable alternative.   
 
 exim is also the one with 80s design (even sendmail abandoned that)
 and shit code.
 pretty much ANYTHING else is a better choice.

Agreed. That left us to only the choice between sendmail/OpenSMTPD :)
I would definitelly advise for Opensmtpd, but not yet, at least not
before the 4.8 rel will be rolled, though in 4.7 it is quite stable,
and runs perfectly on a handful of my places.
 
Meta1, which is viewed by some as a sendmail made right is still in
very deep pre-alpha state... what a pity.   
-- 
With best regards,
Gregory Edigarov



Re: MTA choice

2010-08-18 Thread Peter J. Philipp
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:10:47PM +0300, Gregory Edigarov wrote:
 Agreed. That left us to only the choice between sendmail/OpenSMTPD :)
 I would definitelly advise for Opensmtpd, but not yet, at least not
 before the 4.8 rel will be rolled, though in 4.7 it is quite stable,
 and runs perfectly on a handful of my places.

It works at home too, with a bit of hackery by myself.  A while ago I noticed
OpenSMTPD didn't deliver to aliases, but I'm unsure if it has been fixed yet
or if I and mouring were the only ones that had the problem.  I'm looking for
the next release so that I can test this and know for sure!

 Meta1, which is viewed by some as a sendmail made right is still in
 very deep pre-alpha state... what a pity.   
 -- 
 With best regards,
   Gregory Edigarov

regards,
-peter



Re: AD1984A sound card on -current issue

2010-08-18 Thread Oleksii Zhmyrov
2010/8/10 Jacob Meuser jake...@sdf.lonestar.org

 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 04:03:24PM +0300, Oleksii Zhmyrov wrote:
  Hi, misc@
 
  I'm trying to run -current (20100809) on HP 2133 MiniNote laptop.
  It seems to me strange that sound card AD1984A on VIA VT8237S
  HDA controller doesn't appear in dmesg at all.

 your problem is that the controller, which is a PCI device, is not
 found.  probably has nothing at all to do with the AD1984A codec.

 --
 jake...@sdf.lonestar.org
 SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org


When acpi0 and apm0 are disabled, sound card works fine.

-- 
Oleksii Zhmyrov
National Technical University of Ukraine Kyiv Polytechnic Institute,
Institute of Physics and Technology
Tel: +38 (063) 496 2695



Re: undeadly article

2010-08-18 Thread Daniel B.
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010, J.C. Roberts wrote:

 My article was just a humorous retelling of the very typical problems
 seen by people traveling.  The trouble with humor is it can make no
 sense across language or cultural barriers.  I like to think the world
 is a better place when we can laugh, but unfortunately, due to cultural
 and language differences, some people will not understand or appreciate
 all of the jokes.
 
 If you asked me to understand a language other than English, I would
 fail miserably, but if you asked me to understand jokes in another
 language or from another culture, I would fail even worse. You would
 have to explain the jokes to me, and even then I might not get them due
 to lack of experience.

I don't think language was a barrier. He can write in English, unlike 
me, very well. Anyway, I laughed a lot.



Re: MTA choice

2010-08-18 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:10:47PM +0300, Gregory Edigarov wrote:
 On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:07:58 +0200
 Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote:
 
  * Gregory Edigarov g...@bestnet.kharkov.ua [2010-08-17 09:29]:
   Qmail??? Postfix??? easiest to use Oh, please don't... I would
   even not give a dime to exim, which of the big guys I love the
   most, in the terms of ease of configure.  So now I definitelly see
   OpenSMTPD as a very viable alternative.   
  
  exim is also the one with 80s design (even sendmail abandoned that)
  and shit code.
  pretty much ANYTHING else is a better choice.
 
 Agreed. That left us to only the choice between sendmail/OpenSMTPD :)
 I would definitelly advise for Opensmtpd, but not yet, at least not
 before the 4.8 rel will be rolled, though in 4.7 it is quite stable,
 and runs perfectly on a handful of my places.
  

Unfortunately it still lacks features required for many setups, I only
use it and recommand to use it for people who have simple setups and
who know their setup isn't going to evolve for a while...

Gilles

-- 
Gilles Chehade
freelance developer/sysadmin/consultant

   http://www.poolp.org



Re: MTA choice

2010-08-18 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:19:10AM +0200, Peter J. Philipp wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:10:47PM +0300, Gregory Edigarov wrote:
  Agreed. That left us to only the choice between sendmail/OpenSMTPD :)
  I would definitelly advise for Opensmtpd, but not yet, at least not
  before the 4.8 rel will be rolled, though in 4.7 it is quite stable,
  and runs perfectly on a handful of my places.
 
 It works at home too, with a bit of hackery by myself.  A while ago I noticed
 OpenSMTPD didn't deliver to aliases, but I'm unsure if it has been fixed yet
 or if I and mouring were the only ones that had the problem.  I'm looking for
 the next release so that I can test this and know for sure!
 

That is strange, I have a few instances running with aliases resolution,
maybe your configuration is broken ?

Gilles

-- 
Gilles Chehade
freelance developer/sysadmin/consultant

   http://www.poolp.org



Re: GCC manpage glitch

2010-08-18 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Kristaps,

not sure misc@ is the ideal list for discussing this (as opposed to,
say, discuss at mdocml dot bsd dot lv), but as you started here and
the topic will soon be finished:

Kristaps Dzonsons wrote on Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:38:09AM +0200:

 Good catch.  For any roff people, the culprit was
 
 .ds C+ C\v'-.1v'\h'-1p'\s-2+\h'-1p'+\s0\v'.1v'\h'-1p'
 
 The \v and \h escapes weren't being properly handled in mandoc
 (vertical positioning... ugh), nor was a missing sign in \s.

Stuff like \s0 or \s12 may not be documented in the GNU troff manuals -
i did not check - but the Nroff/Troff User's Manual by Ossanna,
Kernighan, and Ritter, available as part of the Heirloom Documentation
Tools, see http://heirloom.sourceforge.net/doctools.html
does document it:

  Alternatively the point size may be changed between any two
   characters by imbedding a \sN at the desired point to set the
   size to N, or a \s1N (1=N=8) to increment/decrement the size
   by N; \s0 restores the previous size.  (section 2.3)

Oh, and by the way,

  \s39  appears to be equivalent to  \s'36', while
  \s40  appears to be equivalent to  \s'4'0 -

that is, in the letter case, the character '0' appears
in the output stream, in font size 4pt!

But i'm not sure we really need to extend quirk-compatibility
down to that level of ugliness.  Looks like somebody applied the
principle of biggest surprise when designing this.

Yours,
  Ingo



Re: help on rewriting ftp-proxy rules for 4.7 up

2010-08-18 Thread Henning Brauer
* Peter N. M. Hansteen pe...@bsdly.net [2010-08-17 12:09]:
 Dimitar Vassilev dimitar.vassi...@gmail.com writes:
 
  $tg_in on $ext_if inet proto udp from any to any port=syslog
  $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags P/FSRPAUEW
  $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags FPU/FSRPAUEW
  $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags FPU/FPU
  $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags /FSRA
  $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags FS/FSRA
  $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags FSPU/FSPRAU
  $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags FPU/FSRPAU
  $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags /FSRPAU
  $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags F/FSRA
  $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags U/FSRAU
  $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags S/FSRPAU
  $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags P/FSRPAU
  $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags A/A
  $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags P/P
 (otherwise, we will call it 'flags wanking', nevermind the quick gushers)

it is nmap masturbation. utterly useless, stupid bullshit.

-- 
Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org
BS Web Services, http://bsws.de
Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services
Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting



Re: undeadly article

2010-08-18 Thread Mihai Popescu B.S.
Hello,

My post was not intended as a direct hit for the article. I told my
opinion to misc@ because undeadly ask for subscription, no more
anonymous coward post. Am I wrong ?

I target airport behaviour with my comment. I use the airport for 6
flight until now, no problem at all with security teams. I was quick
and polite in answers and the time with them was short. Most of them
have the nose to see what they are dealing with. If you start
playing, they will answer accordingly, not because you look like a
suspect, it is more like an answer. Do you really think they like what
they are doing, Robert ? How whould you feel inspecting people's
luggage like a thief ? Or suspecting them ? Those are the rules ...

I like the humour on undeadly, but this article was not for me. I saw
a guy who was tried to get as more attention as he can. You don't need
the fifth wheel on a running car, Robert. Four are enough. If you
insist to use it, you will get people attention for sure.


The gipsy part is not funny also, but this is clear not for m...@.

Have fun ! (but not in sensible areas).



Re: undeadly article

2010-08-18 Thread Marco Peereboom
And if you are a veteran air traveler you know that those so called
security guards aren't what they crack up to be.  They do not have a
nose for anything and the entire security apparatus is nothing but
subsidized labor.

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 04:28:57PM +0300, Mihai Popescu B.S. wrote:
 Hello,
 
 My post was not intended as a direct hit for the article. I told my
 opinion to misc@ because undeadly ask for subscription, no more
 anonymous coward post. Am I wrong ?
 
 I target airport behaviour with my comment. I use the airport for 6
 flight until now, no problem at all with security teams. I was quick
 and polite in answers and the time with them was short. Most of them
 have the nose to see what they are dealing with. If you start
 playing, they will answer accordingly, not because you look like a
 suspect, it is more like an answer. Do you really think they like what
 they are doing, Robert ? How whould you feel inspecting people's
 luggage like a thief ? Or suspecting them ? Those are the rules ...
 
 I like the humour on undeadly, but this article was not for me. I saw
 a guy who was tried to get as more attention as he can. You don't need
 the fifth wheel on a running car, Robert. Four are enough. If you
 insist to use it, you will get people attention for sure.
 
 
 The gipsy part is not funny also, but this is clear not for m...@.
 
 Have fun ! (but not in sensible areas).



Re: undeadly article

2010-08-18 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 04:28:57PM +0300, Mihai Popescu B.S. wrote:
 Hello,
 
 My post was not intended as a direct hit for the article. I told my
 opinion to misc@ because undeadly ask for subscription, no more
 anonymous coward post. Am I wrong ?
 
 I target airport behaviour with my comment. I use the airport for 6
 flight until now, no problem at all with security teams. I was quick
 and polite in answers and the time with them was short. Most of them
 have the nose to see what they are dealing with.

bullshit.  sorry, but that is not true.

I regularly get picked on by authority, but it's alwasy just been
a pointless hassle.  I'll never forget the time a cop stopped me
in my own neighborhood, in the rain, for walking against a signal,
when his car was the only moving vehicle within a half mile.  the
best part was when he dropped his papers in a puddle.

 If you start
 playing, they will answer accordingly, not because you look like a
 suspect, it is more like an answer.

the only playing was their own game.  after all, it is they who
choose to start the games.

 Have fun ! (but not in sensible areas).

but see, if authority can't take that you're laughing because their
questions and assumptions *really are* ridiculous ...

the lady in the office where jcr was held when we met him was
in charge of the place.  and it's clear why she was in charge.
she was sharp and no-nonsense.  of course, you want such people
in charge of such places.

even after we got out of that office I still had to deal with
another person who inspected my bags.  with this uy though, I
shared a good laugh, even though he was pretty thorough.

-- 
jake...@sdf.lonestar.org
SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org



Re: GCC manpage glitch

2010-08-18 Thread Kristaps Dzonsons
 Stuff like \s0 or \s12 may not be documented in the GNU troff manuals -
 i did not check - but the Nroff/Troff User's Manual by Ossanna,
 Kernighan, and Ritter, available as part of the Heirloom Documentation
 Tools, see http://heirloom.sourceforge.net/doctools.html
 does document it:
 
   Alternatively the point size may be changed between any two
characters by imbedding a \sN at the desired point to set the
size to N, or a \sB1N (1=N=8) to increment/decrement the size
by N; \s0 restores the previous size.  (section 2.3)
 
 Oh, and by the way,
 
   \s39  appears to be equivalent to  \s'36', while
   \s40  appears to be equivalent to  \s'4'0 -
 
 that is, in the letter case, the character '0' appears
 in the output stream, in font size 4pt!
 
 But i'm not sure we really need to extend quirk-compatibility
 down to that level of ugliness.  Looks like somebody applied the
 principle of biggest surprise when designing this.

I procrastinated this morning with a numeric subexpression filter, but
it's clear this won't end with super-pretty results.  For example,

.ds Th \*(#[\s+2I\s-2\h'-\w'I'u*3/5'\v'-.3m'o\v'.3m'\*(#]
^^^^

The I is removed in troff -Tascii due to the subsequent \h (with -Tps,
it renders).  I don't think mandoc should be going down this rabbithole:
even with a subexpression parser, which shouldn't be /too/ difficult, it
would need full \h intelligence, and thus numeric calculations, to
format this properly.

Take the pod2man preamble's documentation to heart:

.\ Accent mark definitions (@(#)ms.acc 1.5 88/02/08 SMI; from UCB 4.2).
.\ Fear.  Run.  Save yourself.  No user-serviceable parts.
.\ fudge factors for nroff and troff

Really?  In production code?  Thanks.

Furthermore, as you can see in the \h'-\w'I'u*3/5', the subexpression
needn't even be parenthesised.

I think the least complicated measure is to teach mandoc to have numeric
subexpressions, i.e., only for \s, \h, \v, and \w.  The more pod2man we
can handle, the better.

Or better yet, maybe somebody wants to tackle a pod2mdoc? :-)

Kristaps



Re: No VLAN Tag seen by switch on CARP interface on VLAN interface

2010-08-18 Thread Steve Johnson

All is working fine! Thanks a lot and sorry I had missed the original reply.

On 08/17/2010 07:21 AM, Steve Johnson wrote:

Excellent, thanks a lot for the reply! Really appreciated. I'll try this
out today and will update with results.

Steve

On 08/16/2010 06:58 PM, Stuart Henderson wrote:

On 2010-08-16, Steve Johnsonmaill...@sjohnson.info wrote:

Hi,

I'm really sorry to resend about this, but I have tried to do this in
many different ways and can't figure out anything more. I'm about to do
a change and add physical network card to remove VLANs from this FW
altogether, but since we would much rather have VLANs functioning, and
that by the looks of it it should be, I thought I'd ask just one last
time in case someone else sees this and might have a hint.


Newsgroups: gmane.os.openbsd.misc
From: Stuart Hendersons...@spacehopper.org
Subject: Re: No VLAN Tag seen by switch on CARP interface on VLAN
interface
References:4c584a70.2030...@sjohnson.info
4c5affb1.3080...@sjohnson.info 4c5ffa50.1020...@sjohnson.info
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 10:35:55 +0100
User-Agent: slrn/0.9.9p1 (OpenBSD)
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:slrn3vfsi627br.d2t@naiad.spacehopper.org

On 2010-08-09, Steve Johnsonmaill...@sjohnson.info wrote:

Sorry about forgetting dmesg, thanks for the info about inline/pastebin.
Since this was very long information, I really wasn't sure. Here are all
the details inline:


Thanks, you will need to apply this patch (from r1.242 of
/sys/dev/pci/if_em.c), and rebuild a kernel. Alternatively
move to -current where it's fixed.

Index: if_em.c
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/dev/pci/if_em.c,v
retrieving revision 1.241
retrieving revision 1.242
diff -u -p -r1.241 -r1.242
--- if_em.c 26 Jul 2010 19:21:24 - 1.241
+++ if_em.c 3 Aug 2010 16:21:52 - 1.242
@@ -1816,7 +1816,8 @@ em_setup_interface(struct em_softc *sc)
ifp-if_capabilities = IFCAP_VLAN_MTU;

#if NVLAN 0
- ifp-if_capabilities |= IFCAP_VLAN_HWTAGGING;
+ if (sc-hw.mac_type != em_82575)
+ ifp-if_capabilities |= IFCAP_VLAN_HWTAGGING;
#endif

#ifdef EM_CSUM_OFFLOAD




Re: AD1984A sound card on -current issue

2010-08-18 Thread Oleksii Zhmyrov
Here is dmesg with acpi0 and apm0 disabled:

OpenBSD 4.8 (GENERIC) #136: Mon Aug 16 09:06:23 MDT 2010
dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: VIA C7-M Processor 1600MHz (CentaurHauls 686-class) 1.60 GHz
cpu0:
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,TM,SBF,SSE3,EST,TM2,xTPR
real mem  = 937717760 (894MB)
avail mem = 912420864 (870MB)
User Kernel Config
UKC disable acpi0
471 acpi0 disabled
UKC disable apm0
351 apm0 disabled
UKC exit
Continuing...
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 08/20/08, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf0010,
SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @ 0xfc590 (19 entries)
bios0: vendor Hewlett-Packard version 68VGU Ver. F.05 date 08/20/2008
bios0: Hewlett-Packard 3030
acpi at bios0 function 0x0 not configured
mpbios0 at bios0: Intel MP Specification 1.4
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: RNG AES AES-CTR SHA1 SHA256 RSA
cpu0: apic clock running at 199MHz
mpbios0: bus 0 is type PCI
mpbios0: bus 1 is type PCI
mpbios0: bus 2 is type PCI
mpbios0: bus 3 is type PCI
mpbios0: bus 4 is type PCI
mpbios0: bus 5 is type PCI
mpbios0: bus 6 is type PCI
mpbios0: bus 128 is type PCI
mpbios0: bus 129 is type ISA
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 1 pa 0xfec0, version 3, 24 pins
ioapic1 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfecc, version 3, 24 pins
mpbios: can't find bus 7 for apic 1 pin 16
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 3.0 @ 0xf/0x1
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xf5ed0/208 (11 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:17:0 (VIA VT8237S ISA rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #128 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xcc00
cpu0: unknown Enhanced SpeedStep CPU, msr 0x0406081104000811
cpu0: using only highest and lowest power states
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1597 MHz: speeds: 1600, 800 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 VIA P4M900 Host rev 0x00
viaagp0 at pchb0: v3
agp0 at viaagp0: aperture at 0xf000, size 0x1000
pchb1 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 VIA P4M900 Host rev 0x00
pchb2 at pci0 dev 0 function 2 VIA P4M900 Host rev 0x00
pchb3 at pci0 dev 0 function 3 VIA P4M900 Host rev 0x00
pchb4 at pci0 dev 0 function 4 VIA P4M900 Host rev 0x00
VIA P4M900 IOAPIC rev 0x00 at pci0 dev 0 function 5 not configured
pchb5 at pci0 dev 0 function 6 VIA P4M900 Security rev 0x00
pchb6 at pci0 dev 0 function 7 VIA P4M900 Host rev 0x00
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 VIA VT8377 AGP rev 0x00
pci_intr_map: bus 0 dev 1 func 0 pin 1; line 11
pci_intr_map: no MP mapping found
pci_intr_map: bus 0 dev 1 func 0 pin 2; line 5
pci_intr_map: no MP mapping found
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 VIA Chrome9 HC IGP rev 0x01
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
ppb1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 VIA P4M900 PCI-PCI rev 0x80: apic 2 int 3
(irq 10)
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
Broadcom BCM4312 rev 0x02 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 not configured
ppb2 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 VIA P4M900 PCI-PCI rev 0x80: apic 2 int 7
(irq 10)
pci3 at ppb2 bus 5
pciide0 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 VIA VT8237S SATA rev 0x00: DMA
pciide0: using apic 1 int 21 (irq 5) for native-PCI interrupt
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: ST9120817AS
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 114473MB, 234441648 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
uhci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0xb0: apic 1 int 20
(irq 11)
uhci1 at pci0 dev 16 function 2 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0xb0: apic 1 int 21
(irq 3)
uhci2 at pci0 dev 16 function 3 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0xb0: apic 1 int 23
(irq 7)
ehci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 4 VIA VT6202 USB rev 0x90: apic 1 int 21
(irq 3)
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 VIA EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
viapm0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 VIA VT8237S ISA rev 0x00
iic0 at viapm0
lisa0 at iic0 addr 0x1d: lis331dl
spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 1GB DDR2 SDRAM non-parity PC2-6400CL5 SO-DIMM
pchb7 at pci0 dev 17 function 7 VIA VT8251 VLINK rev 0x00
ppb3 at pci0 dev 19 function 0 VIA VT8237A PCI-PCI rev 0x00
pci_intr_map: bus 0 dev 19 func 0 pin 1; line 3
pci_intr_map: no MP mapping found
pci_intr_map: bus 0 dev 19 func 0 pin 3; line 3
pci_intr_map: no MP mapping found
pci4 at ppb3 bus 128
azalia0 at pci4 dev 1 function 0 VIA HD Audio rev 0x10: apic 1 int 17 (irq
5)
azalia0: codecs: Analog Devices AD1984A
audio0 at azalia0
ppb4 at pci0 dev 19 function 1 VIA VT8237A PCI-PCI rev 0x00
pci_intr_map: bus 0 dev 19 func 1 pin 1; line 3
pci_intr_map: no MP mapping found
pci_intr_map: bus 0 dev 19 func 1 pin 3; line 3
pci_intr_map: no MP mapping found
pci5 at ppb4 bus 7
bge0 at pci5 dev 3 function 0 Broadcom BCM5788 rev 0x03pci_intr_map: bus 7
dev 3 func 0 pin 1; line 11
pci_intr_map: no MP mapping found
, BCM5705 A3 (0x3003): irq 11, address 00:25:b3:5a:a0:c5
brgphy0 at bge0 phy 1: BCM5705 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 2
usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1 VIA UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1
usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub2 at usb2 

Re: MTA choice

2010-08-18 Thread Robert
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 11:19:10 +0200
Peter J. Philipp p...@centroid.eu wrote:
 It works at home too, with a bit of hackery by myself.  A while ago I noticed
 OpenSMTPD didn't deliver to aliases, but I'm unsure if it has been fixed yet
 or if I and mouring were the only ones that had the problem.  I'm looking for
 the next release so that I can test this and know for sure!

Make sure that you didn't make the same mistake as I did:
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=125664373516070

regards,
Robert



Re: MTA choice

2010-08-18 Thread Peter J. Philipp
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 07:00:25PM +0200, Robert wrote:
 On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 11:19:10 +0200
 Peter J. Philipp p...@centroid.eu wrote:
  It works at home too, with a bit of hackery by myself.  A while ago I 
  noticed
  OpenSMTPD didn't deliver to aliases, but I'm unsure if it has been fixed yet
  or if I and mouring were the only ones that had the problem.  I'm looking 
  for
  the next release so that I can test this and know for sure!
 
 Make sure that you didn't make the same mistake as I did:
 http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=125664373516070
 
 regards,
 Robert

Thanks.  I'm trying to interpret that marc archive right.  Was it that you 
had your /etc/mailer.conf not updated to the opensmtpd binaries?  Well anyhow
you made me look if my problem persists, so I tried it on a fairly recent 
-current box (August 2nd) and I'm still seeing the fails that I had before.

Here is a session with opensmtpd:


# telnet localhost 25
Trying ::1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 uranus.centroid.eu ESMTP OpenSMTPD
helo remote
250 uranus.centroid.eu Hello remote [IPv6:::1], pleased to meet you
mail from: p...@solarscale.de
250 2.1.0 Sender ok
rcpt to: secur...@solarscale.de
530 5.0.0 Recipient rejected: secur...@solarscale.de
quit
221 2.0.0 uranus.centroid.eu Closing connection
Connection closed by foreign host.


Notice the 530 error, I'm unsure what this means but the log says:

Aug 18 19:31:13 caliban smtpd: (none): from=p...@solarscale.de, 
relay=localhost.solarscale.de [IPv6:::1], stat=LocalError (530 5.0.0 Recipient 
rejected: secur...@solarscale.de)

So to show you my /etc/mailer.conf:


#   $OpenBSD: mailer.conf,v 1.3 2000/04/06 18:24:19 millert Exp $
#
# Execute the real sendmail program, named /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail
#
sendmail/usr/sbin/smtpctl
send-mail   /usr/sbin/smtpctl
makemap /usr/libexec/smtpd/makemap
newaliases  /usr/libexec/smtpd/makemap


Notice, makemap and newaliases point to the opensmtpd binaries.

Next I want to show you my aliases file from /etc/mail/aliases:


# more aliases
#
daemon: root
operator:   root
bin:root
smmsp:  root
popa3d: root
sshd:   root
uucp:   root
www:root
named:  root
proxy:  root
nobody: root
root:   pjp
pjp:p...@solarscale.de
security: root
#


And lastly I'd like to show you my config:


#   $OpenBSD: smtpd.conf,v 1.1 2009/03/17 00:00:16 gilles Exp $

# This is the smtpd server system-wide configuration file.
# See smtpd.conf(5) for more information.

hostname uranus.centroid.eu
map aliases { source db /etc/mail/aliases.db }

listen on localhost 
listen on vic0 

accept for local deliver to mda /usr/local/bin/procmail -f -

# must be from all because from local is default
accept from all for domain solarscale.de deliver to mda 
/usr/local/bin/procmail -f -
accept from all for domain centroid.eu deliver to mda 
/usr/local/bin/procmail -f -
accept from all for domain uranus.centroid.eu deliver to mda 
/usr/local/bin/procmail -f -

accept from all for domain goldflipper.net deliver to mda 
/usr/local/bin/procmail -f -

accept for all relay via 127.0.0.1 port 9025


So anyhow if you can spot the error, I'd be grateful otherwise I assume what
I want from opensmtpd is still not working.

Regards,

-peter



Re: undeadly article

2010-08-18 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:28:57 +0300 Mihai Popescu B.S.
mihai...@gmail.com wrote:

 I like the humour on undeadly, but this article was not for me. I saw
 a guy who was tried to get as more attention as he can.

Mihai,

You still don't understand.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

In writing, I had the choice between complaining about all of my time
wasted by the various security people, or joking about how much time I
could waste. The latter is called sarcasm. It's no different than
joking about the sun being too bright at night (hint: the sun doesn't
shine at night).

jcr

--
The OpenBSD Journal - http://www.undeadly.org



Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm

2010-08-18 Thread Owain Ainsworth
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:20:23PM +0200, Jiri B. wrote:
 On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 06:40:21 -0500
 Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote:
 
  dmesg?
 
 I have to first eliminate potential involvement of i/o slowdown because
 of big use of softraid (i have everything except '/' on softraid).
 
  On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:24:17AM +0200, Jiri B. wrote:
did someone saw similar problem in scrotwm(1)? Eg. when I start
xeyes(1) on empty workspace from menu M-p it simply shut down
X. If I start eg. xcalc(1) then everything is ok. Another problem
is with xlock(1). When I want to lock my screen and start
xlock(1) eg. this way 'xlock -mode atlantis' then my computer
completely hangs and I must to turn it off with button on case.
Last problem which I discovered is with warzone game. When I
start it on empty workspace then it says that timing of monitor
is not ok for this app and X is not working anymore and I must
kill X from console.
   
So someone here with similar behaviour?
   
   scrotwm works OK for me with latest snapshot on Lenovo T400 (i386).
   But it
   
   is incredebily slow comparable with same setup on Ubuntu :(
 
 Anyway, this always makes my scrotwm to be f*cked up:
 
 `mplayer -fs -vo sdl video'

Why are you using sdl for video playing in the first place?

Almost always the default XVideo one is the one you want.

-0-
-- 
To the systems programmer, users and applications serve only to provide
a test load.



Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm

2010-08-18 Thread Owain Ainsworth
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:56:58AM -0400, Ted Unangst wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote:
  did someone saw similar problem in scrotwm(1)? Eg. when I start
  xeyes(1) on empty workspace from menu M-p it simply shut down X. If
  I start eg. xcalc(1) then everything is ok. Another problem is with
  xlock(1). When I want to lock my screen and start xlock(1) eg. this
  way 'xlock -mode atlantis' then my computer completely hangs and I
  must to turn it off with button on case. Last problem which I
  discovered is with warzone game. When I start it on empty workspace
  then it says that timing of monitor is not ok for this app and X is
  not working anymore and I must kill X from console.
 
 For the record, it would be nice to test with a different window
 manager.  Bugs in scrotwm do not count as bugs in OpenBSD.

M-?xeyesenter

in  cwm (on current, amd64) runs fine.

So i bet a scrotwm bug.


Then again the mail contains at least 3 bugs being mentioned, this only
treats the first.

As for the third (warzone) the monitor timing is probably a warzone or X
bug, the rest of the failure could be the WM or the application just not
quitting and keeping the keyboard grabbed (that would be an application
bug). That can be tested using ssh and kill -9.

As a note, scotwm really needs it own mailing list, scrotwm bugs are not
really topical for misc.

-0-
-- 
She missed an invaluable opportunity to give him a look that you could
have poured on a waffle.



Re: SMTP syntax (was: MTA choice)

2010-08-18 Thread Claus Assmann
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010, Peter J. Philipp wrote:

 mail from: p...@solarscale.de

Syntax error. The RFCs do not allow a space after the colon.

 rcpt to: secur...@solarscale.de

same here.

It's fascinating how some broken software caused other software to
deal with that kind of garbage and almost every new MTA has to
implement those hacks to be backward compatible.



Re: undeadly article

2010-08-18 Thread Noah Pugsley

J.C. Roberts wrote:

On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:28:57 +0300 Mihai Popescu B.S.
mihai...@gmail.com wrote:

I like the humour on undeadly, but this article was not for me. I saw
a guy who was tried to get as more attention as he can.


Mihai,

You still don't understand.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

In writing, I had the choice between complaining about all of my time
wasted by the various security people, or joking about how much time I
could waste. The latter is called sarcasm. It's no different than
joking about the sun being too bright at night (hint: the sun doesn't
shine at night).

jcr

--
The OpenBSD Journal - http://www.undeadly.org

I thought the writeups from jcr were great. A little lighter and more 
fun than the usual fare. To be honest, if I had to choose between them 
and the developer interviews I choose developer interviews. But they are 
a welcome supplement for sure. I hope they continue.




Re: undeadly article

2010-08-18 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 11:21:19 -0700 Noah Pugsley noa...@bendtel.com
wrote:

 I thought the writeups from jcr were great. A little lighter and more 
 fun than the usual fare. To be honest, if I had to choose between
 them and the developer interviews I choose developer interviews. But
 they are a welcome supplement for sure. I hope they continue.

mtu@ and I are working on the individual developer interview articles.
There's a lot of them, so it will take some time, but we'll publish
them as we get them completed.

jcr

--
The OpenBSD Journal - http://www.undeadly.org



Re: MeTA1 (was: MTA choice)

2010-08-18 Thread Claus Assmann
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010, Gregory Edigarov wrote:

 Meta1, which is viewed by some as a sendmail made right is still in
 very deep pre-alpha state... what a pity.   

Despite being called pre-alpha MeTA1 runs without problems
for years at various sites.  It's in pre-alpha to make my
life easier: I can make changes without offering backward
compatibility. While I try to avoid that, it reduces my
workload if those changes are deemed necessary (however, I
provided scripts/instructions for upgrading each time this
happened).

Alternatively, I could just go through the release process to make
MeTA1-1.0.0 available and then start MeTA1-2.0.PreAlpha0, but I'm
not sure whether that's the right thing to do.

Do quote the MeTA1 docs:

PreAlpha: This means the software is not feature complete and hence
might be missing some functionality that is considered important
by different users.  Additionally, there might be no compatibility
in data structures stored on disk between different pre-alpha
versions, e.g., when upgrading from PreAlpha16 to PreAlpha17 the
main queue format may have changed without checks in the software
for this.  Hence old queues must be drained before upgrading.
Moreover, the protocols used for communication between MeTA1 modules
may have changed without providing backward compatibility, therefore
modules from different releases must not be used together.  Such
incompatibilities are usually stated in the list of changes.



Re: MTA choice

2010-08-18 Thread Robert
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 19:42:09 +0200
Peter J. Philipp p...@centroid.eu wrote:
 Thanks.  I'm trying to interpret that marc archive right.  Was it that you 
 had your /etc/mailer.conf not updated to the opensmtpd binaries?  Well anyhow

Yes, that's correct. Just to be sure: you did run newaliases?

regards,
Robert



Re: MTA choice

2010-08-18 Thread Peter J. Philipp
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 08:47:43PM +0200, Robert wrote:
 On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 19:42:09 +0200
 Peter J. Philipp p...@centroid.eu wrote:
  Thanks.  I'm trying to interpret that marc archive right.  Was it that you 
  had your /etc/mailer.conf not updated to the opensmtpd binaries?  Well 
  anyhow
 
 Yes, that's correct. Just to be sure: you did run newaliases?

Yes I did. :-)

 regards,
 Robert

Cheers,
-peter



Re: undeadly article

2010-08-18 Thread a . velichinsky
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 07:30:55PM +0300, Paul Irofti wrote:
 jcr, please forgive my fellow romanian as us gypsies don't get to travel
 much and don't know the mysteries of these flying birds and their inner
 workings.

There was enough bigotry and condescension on this list.

There was no need to import some more from the Eastern Europe.



networking problem with same vlan on different physical interfaces

2010-08-18 Thread Jason Wagstaff
I am having an issue with networking and believe that I understand the
issue but do not know how to fix the problem.   I have two servers set
up in  a carp + pfsync load balancer on 2 T2000 sparc servers.

Each server is configured identically.

First I have a physical interface em0 that is plugged into a switch
set up as a swithport that is on a vlan629

Second I have a physical interface em2 that is plugged into a switch
that is trunked to multiple different vlans including vlan629.  The
em2 interface is the interface that all the vlans bind to, from there
each carp interface binds to appropriate vlan.

All of the other vlans are working as expected on the em2 interface
except for vlan629.  For each vlan I have created a
/etc/hostname.vlan* and they all work.  Where the problems comes in
when I try to ping one of the ip addresses that are assigned to
/etc/hostname.vlan629 on either server.   I can see ICMP request come
in using tcpdump but the ICMP request is not returned.  My assumption
is that the vlan629 interface does not know how to route back out
through the em2 physical interface.Also when using netstat -rn it
did not show any routes for vlan629 on em2 but did show the routes for
em0.

I did some testing by destroying the em0 interface on both servers and
rebooting each server.  After rebooting the /etc/hostname.vlan629
routes showed up correctly in netstat -rn and I was able to
successfully ping each em2 vlan629 interface on both servers.   I
would like to be able to keep the em0 interface because it has special
pf rules that are different than the em2 interface.

Any suggestions would be greatly helpful.

--jw



$ cat /var/run/dmesg.boot
console is /virtual-devi...@100/cons...@1
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
The Regents of the University of California.  All rights reserved.
Copyright (c) 1995-2010 OpenBSD. All rights reserved.  http://www.OpenBSD.org

OpenBSD 4.7-current (GENERIC.MP) #53: Mon Jul 12 04:40:58 MDT 2010
dera...@sparc64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 17045651456 (16256MB)
avail mem = 16762232832 (15985MB)
mainbus0 at root: SPARC Enterprise T2000
cpu0 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu2 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu3 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu4 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu5 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu6 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu7 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu8 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu9 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu10 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu11 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu12 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu13 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu14 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu15 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu16 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu17 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu18 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu19 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu20 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu21 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu22 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu23 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu24 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu25 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu26 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu27 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu28 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu29 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu30 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
cpu31 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-T1 (rev 0.0) @ 1200 MHz
vbus0 at mainbus0
flashprom at vbus0 not configured
cbus0 at vbus0
virtual-channel at cbus0 not configured
virtual-channel-client at cbus0 not configured
virtual-channel at cbus0 not configured
vcons0 at vbus0: ivec 0x111
vrtc0 at vbus0
fma at vbus0 not configured
sunvts at vbus0 not configured
sunmc at vbus0 not configured
explorer at vbus0 not configured
led at vbus0 not configured
flashupdate at vbus0 not configured
ncp at vbus0 not configured
vpci0 at mainbus0: bus 2 to 7, dvma map 8000-
pci0 at vpci0
ppb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 PLX PEX 8532 rev 0xbc
pci1 at ppb0 bus 3
ppb1 at pci1 dev 1 function 0 PLX PEX 8532 rev 0xbc
pci2 at ppb1 bus 4
em0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Intel PRO/1000 PT (82571EB) rev 0x06:
ivec 0x795, address 00:14:4f:cb:95:e4
em1 at pci2 dev 0 function 1 Intel PRO/1000 PT (82571EB) rev 0x06:
ivec 0x796, address 00:14:4f:cb:95:e5
ppb2 at pci1 dev 2 function 0 PLX PEX 8532 rev 0xbc
pci3 at ppb2 bus 5

Re: undeadly article

2010-08-18 Thread Tony Abernethy
Personally, I liked the article.
Small change in perspective changes an ordeal into an adventure.

Jacob Meuser wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 04:28:57PM +0300, Mihai Popescu B.S. wrote:
  Hello,
 
  My post was not intended as a direct hit for the article. I told my
  opinion to misc@ because undeadly ask for subscription, no more
  anonymous coward post. Am I wrong ?
 
  I target airport behaviour with my comment. I use the airport for 6
  flight until now, no problem at all with security teams. I was quick
  and polite in answers and the time with them was short. Most of them
  have the nose to see what they are dealing with.

 bullshit.  sorry, but that is not true.
Smart security will inevitably outsmart itself.
Add respect to polite in the brew.
He inspects you. You inspect him. You respect each other. Works better.


 I regularly get picked on by authority, but it's alwasy just been
 a pointless hassle.  I'll never forget the time a cop stopped me
 in my own neighborhood, in the rain, for walking against a signal,
 when his car was the only moving vehicle within a half mile.  the
 best part was when he dropped his papers in a puddle.

  If you start
  playing, they will answer accordingly, not because you look like a
  suspect, it is more like an answer.

 the only playing was their own game.  after all, it is they who
 choose to start the games.
If they are wasting your time they will keep it up.
If you are wasting their time they will drop you in a hurry.
The best tactic is when you are obviously suppressing a laugh.


  Have fun ! (but not in sensible areas).

 but see, if authority can't take that you're laughing because their
 questions and assumptions *really are* ridiculous ...

 the lady in the office where jcr was held when we met him was
 in charge of the place.  and it's clear why she was in charge.
 she was sharp and no-nonsense.  of course, you want such people
 in charge of such places.

 even after we got out of that office I still had to deal with
 another person who inspected my bags.  with this uy though, I
 shared a good laugh, even though he was pretty thorough.
Watch how a person laughs. Even more a window into the soul than the eyes.
Customs tends to be sharper than security.
They probably do have a sense of humor,
but it is never shared with outsiders.


 --
 jake...@sdf.lonestar.org
 SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org



Re: networking problem with same vlan on different physical interfaces

2010-08-18 Thread Jussi Peltola
vlans or not, it will generally not work as you seem to expect to have
two interfaces in the same subnet. pf and route-to might be enough to
make it work, but you should probably just configure the different
addresses on one interface.

Or, maybe I'm completely mistaken, but judging from only a dmesg it is
rather hard to tell what you're trying to accomplish. You should include
at least ifconfig output and hostname.* files, probably also the pf
rules you mention.

Jussi Peltola



Re: undeadly article

2010-08-18 Thread Noah Pugsley

J.C. Roberts wrote:

On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 11:21:19 -0700 Noah Pugsley noa...@bendtel.com
wrote:
I thought the writeups from jcr were great. A little lighter and more 
fun than the usual fare. To be honest, if I had to choose between

them and the developer interviews I choose developer interviews. But
they are a welcome supplement for sure. I hope they continue.


mtu@ and I are working on the individual developer interview articles.
There's a lot of them, so it will take some time, but we'll publish
them as we get them completed.

jcr

--
The OpenBSD Journal - http://www.undeadly.org

Oh of course. I completely understand. Hope that didn't sound like a 
complaint. I'm thankful for how fast they've been coming so far.


Anyway.



Re: undeadly article

2010-08-18 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Mihai Popescu B.S. mihai...@gmail.com wrote:

 I target airport behaviour with my comment. I use the airport for 6
 flight until now, no problem at all with security teams. I was quick
 and polite in answers and the time with them was short. Most of them
 have the nose to see what they are dealing with.

The only security personnel with a good nose are those cute little
dogs that smell out apples and other food items you are not allowed
to bring into the country.

-- 
Christian naddy Weisgerber  na...@mips.inka.de



Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm

2010-08-18 Thread Nick Holland
On 08/18/10 14:02, Owain Ainsworth wrote:
...
 As a note, scotwm really needs it own mailing list, scrotwm bugs are not
 really topical for misc.

and a graphic!  don't forget a graphi...er..hmmm
Maybe that wouldn't be such a good idea.

Nick.



Re: undeadly article

2010-08-18 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 04:39:30PM -0400, Tony Abernethy wrote:
 Personally, I liked the article.
 Small change in perspective changes an ordeal into an adventure.
 
 Jacob Meuser wrote:
  On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 04:28:57PM +0300, Mihai Popescu B.S. wrote:
   Hello,
  
   My post was not intended as a direct hit for the article. I told my
   opinion to misc@ because undeadly ask for subscription, no more
   anonymous coward post. Am I wrong ?
  
   I target airport behaviour with my comment. I use the airport for 6
   flight until now, no problem at all with security teams. I was quick
   and polite in answers and the time with them was short. Most of them
   have the nose to see what they are dealing with.
  
  bullshit.  sorry, but that is not true.
 Smart security will inevitably outsmart itself.
 Add respect to polite in the brew.
 He inspects you. You inspect him. You respect each other. Works better.

sure.  I am always very polite wih authority.  there was never any
disrespect put out by me.  as I said, I *want* these people to do
a good job.  they've got good people, it's the things/ways they
are/aren't taught that is the problem.

  
  I regularly get picked on by authority, but it's alwasy just been
  a pointless hassle.  I'll never forget the time a cop stopped me
  in my own neighborhood, in the rain, for walking against a signal,
  when his car was the only moving vehicle within a half mile.  the
  best part was when he dropped his papers in a puddle.
  
   If you start
   playing, they will answer accordingly, not because you look like a
   suspect, it is more like an answer.
  
  the only playing was their own game.  after all, it is they who
  choose to start the games.
 If they are wasting your time they will keep it up.
 If you are wasting their time they will drop you in a hurry.
 The best tactic is when you are obviously suppressing a laugh.

well, they held us there, for nothing but having more than one laptop
and looking like a poor hippie.  I didn't care, I figured it was all
going to happen anyway.  but maybe while they were busy with us, they
were letting some slick and polite well dressed one laptop carrying
creep go who they should have looked at closer?  who knows.

  
   Have fun ! (but not in sensible areas).
  
  but see, if authority can't take that you're laughing because their
  questions and assumptions *really are* ridiculous ...
  
  the lady in the office where jcr was held when we met him was
  in charge of the place.  and it's clear why she was in charge.
  she was sharp and no-nonsense.  of course, you want such people
  in charge of such places.
  
  even after we got out of that office I still had to deal with
  another person who inspected my bags.  with this uy though, I
  shared a good laugh, even though he was pretty thorough.
 Watch how a person laughs. Even more a window into the soul than the eyes.
 Customs tends to be sharper than security.
 They probably do have a sense of humor, 
 but it is never shared with outsiders.
 
  
  --
  jake...@sdf.lonestar.org
  SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
 

-- 
jake...@sdf.lonestar.org
SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org



PF 'traceroute -I host' 'tracert host' problem

2010-08-18 Thread Атанас Владимиров
Hi
I move from 4.6 to 4.7, rewrite my pf.conf rules to match new style.
Everything works fine, but when I try to traceroute a host with -I flag
(force to use icmp) on my obsd fw
I got Request time out on all hops exclude the last one, which I was my
target to traceroute. Here is an example:

[ns]~$ traceroute -I data.bg
traceroute to data.bg (195.149.248.130), 64 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  * * *
 2  * * *
 3  * * *
 4  web.data.bg (195.149.248.130)  0.740 ms  0.707 ms  0.733 ms

As you can see only the last hop is present.
Example without -I flag (using udp);

[ns]~$ traceroute data.bg
traceroute to data.bg (195.149.248.130), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  gw.tbc.bg (94.26.7.33)  0.591 ms  0.462 ms  0.443 ms
 2  peer.tbc.bg (94.26.50.2)  0.961 ms  1.317 ms  1.965 ms
 3  85.91.141.65 (85.91.141.65)  0.866 ms  0.905 ms  1.93 ms
 4  web.data.bg (195.149.248.130)  0.847 ms  0.732 ms  0.712 ms

When I use 'tracert host' on MS Windows box behind my obsd fw, I got a same
behavior

 C:\Users\Administratortracert data.bg
Tracing route to data.bg [195.149.248.130]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
  11 ms1 ms1 ms  ns.bsdbg.net [192.168.1.1]
  2 *** Request timed out.
  3 *** Request timed out.
  4 *** Request timed out.
  51 ms 1 ms 1 ms  web.data.bg [195.149.248.130]
Trace complete.

Here first hop is my obsd fw. I use tcpdump to see what actually happens:

[ns]~# tcpdump -nettti pflog0 host vlado and icmp
tcpdump: listening on pflog0, link-type PFLOG
Aug 19 02:29:32.165656 rule 85/(match) pass in on em1: 192.168.1.2 
195.149.248.130: icmp: echo request [ttl 1]
Aug 19 02:29:33.168104 rule 120/(match) pass out on em0: 192.168.1.2 
195.149.248.130: icmp: echo request [ttl 1]
Aug 19 02:29:33.168117 rule 17/(match) match out on em0: 192.168.1.2 
195.149.248.130: icmp: echo request [ttl 1]
Aug 19 02:29:33.168128 rule 16/(match) match out on em0: 192.168.1.2 
195.149.248.130: icmp: echo request [ttl 1]
Aug 19 02:29:33.168593 rule 120/(match) pass in on em0: 94.26.7.33 
192.168.1.2: icmp: time exceeded in-transit [tos 0xc0]
Aug 19 02:29:33.168613 rule 14/(match) block out on em1: 94.26.7.33 
192.168.1.2: icmp: time exceeded in-transit [tos 0xc0]
Aug 19 02:29:36.960715 rule 120/(match) pass in on em0: 94.26.7.33 
192.168.1.2: icmp: time exceeded in-transit [tos 0xc0]
Aug 19 02:29:40.960831 rule 120/(match) pass in on em0: 94.26.7.33 
192.168.1.2: icmp: time exceeded in-transit [tos 0xc0]
Aug 19 02:29:44.962196 rule 120/(match) pass in on em0: 94.26.50.2 
192.168.1.2: icmp: time exceeded in-transit [tos 0xc0]
Aug 19 02:29:48.961438 rule 120/(match) pass in on em0: 94.26.50.2 
192.168.1.2: icmp: time exceeded in-transit [tos 0xc0]
Aug 19 02:29:52.961678 rule 120/(match) pass in on em0: 94.26.50.2 
192.168.1.2: icmp: time exceeded in-transit [tos 0xc0]
Aug 19 02:29:56.960795 rule 120/(match) pass in on em0: 85.91.141.65 
192.168.1.2: icmp: time exceeded in-transit
Aug 19 02:30:00.960785 rule 120/(match) pass in on em0: 85.91.141.65 
192.168.1.2: icmp: time exceeded in-transit
Aug 19 02:30:05.002249 rule 120/(match) pass in on em0: 85.91.141.65 
192.168.1.2: icmp: time exceeded in-transit
Aug 19 02:30:08.960640 rule 120/(match) pass in on em0: 195.149.248.130 
192.168.1.2: icmp: echo reply
Aug 19 02:30:08.961639 rule 120/(match) pass in on em0: 195.149.248.130 
192.168.1.2: icmp: echo reply
Aug 19 02:30:08.962888 rule 120/(match) pass in on em0: 195.149.248.130 
192.168.1.2: icmp: echo reply

When I turn off pf (pfctl -d) 'traceroute -I' work as it should.
I really don't know what happen.
Thanks in advance,
Atanas

Here is my pf.conf
##
pf.conf
##

 Macros ##

### Interfaces ###
 ExtIf =em0
 IntIf =em1

### Hosts ###
 vl=192.168.1.2
 jl=192.168.1.3
 ve=192.168.1.4
 ntp=192.168.1.5

### Queues, States and Types ###
 IcmpType =icmp-type 8 code 0
 SynState =flags S/SAFR synproxy state
 TcpState =flags S/SAFR modulate state
 UdpState =keep state

### Ports ###
# Squid
 squid=2020

# Remote Desktop Connection
 rdc_int=3389
 rdc_ext=4000

# Skype
 vl_skype=30001
 jl_skype=30002
 ve_skype=30003

# uTorrent
 vl_torrent=30004
 jl_torrent=30005
 ve_torrent=30006
 urange=30004:30006

# HFS
 vl_hfs=8080

# VsFTP
 ftprange=55000:6
 FtpPort =8021

# Symux
 symux=2100

# Battle.net
 bnet=6112

# Ssh
 ssh_ext=443

### Stateful Tracking Options (STO) ###
 ExtIfSTO  =(max 9000, source-track rule, max-src-conn 2000, max-src-nodes
254)
 IntIfSTO  =(max 250,  source-track rule, max-src-conn 100,  max-src-nodes
254, max-src-conn-rate 75/20)
 PostfxSTO =(max 100,  source-track rule, max-src-states 5,
max-src-nodes 30,  max-src-conn-rate 10/300, overload BLACKLIST flush
global, tcp.established 45)
 SpamdSTO  =(max 500,  source-track rule, max-src-conn 10,   max-src-nodes
300, max-src-conn-rate 2/300, tcp.established 10)
 SshSTO=(max 10,   source-track rule, max-src-conn 10,   max-src-nodes

Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm

2010-08-18 Thread ropers
On 19 August 2010 01:07, Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net wrote:
 On 08/18/10 14:02, Owain Ainsworth wrote:
 ...
 As a note, scotwm really needs it own mailing list, scrotwm bugs are not
 really topical for misc.

 and a graphic!  don't forget a graphi...

Here you go:
http://i.imgur.com/Bns7H.png

regards,
--ropers



Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm

2010-08-18 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Nick Holland wrote on Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 07:07:14PM -0400:
 On 08/18/10 14:02, Owain Ainsworth wrote:

 As a note, scotwm really needs it own mailing list,

 and a graphic!  don't forget a graphi...er..hmmm
 Maybe that wouldn't be such a good idea.

Why?  What's wrong with a graphic for scot-wm?
I imagine something with a kilt, and a bagpipe, and some sheep.
And a tartan background for the screen, perhaps...



Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm

2010-08-18 Thread Matthew Dempsky
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:18 PM, ropers rop...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here you go:
 http://i.imgur.com/Bns7H.png

I lol'd.



Re: undeadly article

2010-08-18 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:42:11PM +, Jacob Meuser wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 04:39:30PM -0400, Tony Abernethy wrote:
  Personally, I liked the article.
  Small change in perspective changes an ordeal into an adventure.
  
  Jacob Meuser wrote:
   On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 04:28:57PM +0300, Mihai Popescu B.S. wrote:
Hello,
   
My post was not intended as a direct hit for the article. I told my
opinion to misc@ because undeadly ask for subscription, no more
anonymous coward post. Am I wrong ?
   
I target airport behaviour with my comment. I use the airport for 6
flight until now, no problem at all with security teams. I was quick
and polite in answers and the time with them was short. Most of them
have the nose to see what they are dealing with.
   
   bullshit.  sorry, but that is not true.
  Smart security will inevitably outsmart itself.
  Add respect to polite in the brew.
  He inspects you. You inspect him. You respect each other. Works better.
 
 sure.  I am always very polite wih authority.  there was never any
 disrespect put out by me.  as I said, I *want* these people to do
 a good job.  they've got good people, it's the things/ways they
 are/aren't taught that is the problem.
 
   
   I regularly get picked on by authority, but it's alwasy just been
   a pointless hassle.  I'll never forget the time a cop stopped me
   in my own neighborhood, in the rain, for walking against a signal,
   when his car was the only moving vehicle within a half mile.  the
   best part was when he dropped his papers in a puddle.
   
If you start
playing, they will answer accordingly, not because you look like a
suspect, it is more like an answer.
   
   the only playing was their own game.  after all, it is they who
   choose to start the games.
  If they are wasting your time they will keep it up.
  If you are wasting their time they will drop you in a hurry.
  The best tactic is when you are obviously suppressing a laugh.
 
 well, they held us there, for nothing but having more than one laptop
 and looking like a poor hippie.  I didn't care, I figured it was all
 going to happen anyway.  but maybe while they were busy with us, they
 were letting some slick and polite well dressed one laptop carrying
 creep go who they should have looked at closer?  who knows.

That would have been me.  Enjoy the contraband chili boys.

 
   
Have fun ! (but not in sensible areas).
   
   but see, if authority can't take that you're laughing because their
   questions and assumptions *really are* ridiculous ...
   
   the lady in the office where jcr was held when we met him was
   in charge of the place.  and it's clear why she was in charge.
   she was sharp and no-nonsense.  of course, you want such people
   in charge of such places.
   
   even after we got out of that office I still had to deal with
   another person who inspected my bags.  with this uy though, I
   shared a good laugh, even though he was pretty thorough.
  Watch how a person laughs. Even more a window into the soul than the eyes.
  Customs tends to be sharper than security.
  They probably do have a sense of humor, 
  but it is never shared with outsiders.
  
   
   --
   jake...@sdf.lonestar.org
   SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
  
 
 -- 
 jake...@sdf.lonestar.org
 SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org



Re: PF 'traceroute -I host' 'tracert host' problem

2010-08-18 Thread David Hill
This has been fixed 4.8

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 03:08:23AM +0300, ?? ?? wrote:
 Hi
 I move from 4.6 to 4.7, rewrite my pf.conf rules to match new style.
 Everything works fine, but when I try to traceroute a host with -I flag
 (force to use icmp) on my obsd fw
 I got Request time out on all hops exclude the last one, which I was my
 target to traceroute. Here is an example:
 
 [ns]~$ traceroute -I data.bg
 traceroute to data.bg (195.149.248.130), 64 hops max, 60 byte packets
  1  * * *
  2  * * *
  3  * * *
  4  web.data.bg (195.149.248.130)  0.740 ms  0.707 ms  0.733 ms
 
 As you can see only the last hop is present.
 Example without -I flag (using udp);
 
 [ns]~$ traceroute data.bg
 traceroute to data.bg (195.149.248.130), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
  1  gw.tbc.bg (94.26.7.33)  0.591 ms  0.462 ms  0.443 ms
  2  peer.tbc.bg (94.26.50.2)  0.961 ms  1.317 ms  1.965 ms
  3  85.91.141.65 (85.91.141.65)  0.866 ms  0.905 ms  1.93 ms
  4  web.data.bg (195.149.248.130)  0.847 ms  0.732 ms  0.712 ms
 
 When I use 'tracert host' on MS Windows box behind my obsd fw, I got a same
 behavior
 
  C:\Users\Administratortracert data.bg
 Tracing route to data.bg [195.149.248.130]
 over a maximum of 30 hops:
   11 ms1 ms1 ms  ns.bsdbg.net [192.168.1.1]
   2 *** Request timed out.
   3 *** Request timed out.
   4 *** Request timed out.
   51 ms 1 ms 1 ms  web.data.bg [195.149.248.130]
 Trace complete.
 
 Here first hop is my obsd fw. I use tcpdump to see what actually happens:
 
 [ns]~# tcpdump -nettti pflog0 host vlado and icmp
 tcpdump: listening on pflog0, link-type PFLOG
 Aug 19 02:29:32.165656 rule 85/(match) pass in on em1: 192.168.1.2 
 195.149.248.130: icmp: echo request [ttl 1]
 Aug 19 02:29:33.168104 rule 120/(match) pass out on em0: 192.168.1.2 
 195.149.248.130: icmp: echo request [ttl 1]
 Aug 19 02:29:33.168117 rule 17/(match) match out on em0: 192.168.1.2 
 195.149.248.130: icmp: echo request [ttl 1]
 Aug 19 02:29:33.168128 rule 16/(match) match out on em0: 192.168.1.2 
 195.149.248.130: icmp: echo request [ttl 1]
 Aug 19 02:29:33.168593 rule 120/(match) pass in on em0: 94.26.7.33 
 192.168.1.2: icmp: time exceeded in-transit [tos 0xc0]
 Aug 19 02:29:33.168613 rule 14/(match) block out on em1: 94.26.7.33 
 192.168.1.2: icmp: time exceeded in-transit [tos 0xc0]
 Aug 19 02:29:36.960715 rule 120/(match) pass in on em0: 94.26.7.33 
 192.168.1.2: icmp: time exceeded in-transit [tos 0xc0]
 Aug 19 02:29:40.960831 rule 120/(match) pass in on em0: 94.26.7.33 
 192.168.1.2: icmp: time exceeded in-transit [tos 0xc0]
 Aug 19 02:29:44.962196 rule 120/(match) pass in on em0: 94.26.50.2 
 192.168.1.2: icmp: time exceeded in-transit [tos 0xc0]
 Aug 19 02:29:48.961438 rule 120/(match) pass in on em0: 94.26.50.2 
 192.168.1.2: icmp: time exceeded in-transit [tos 0xc0]
 Aug 19 02:29:52.961678 rule 120/(match) pass in on em0: 94.26.50.2 
 192.168.1.2: icmp: time exceeded in-transit [tos 0xc0]
 Aug 19 02:29:56.960795 rule 120/(match) pass in on em0: 85.91.141.65 
 192.168.1.2: icmp: time exceeded in-transit
 Aug 19 02:30:00.960785 rule 120/(match) pass in on em0: 85.91.141.65 
 192.168.1.2: icmp: time exceeded in-transit
 Aug 19 02:30:05.002249 rule 120/(match) pass in on em0: 85.91.141.65 
 192.168.1.2: icmp: time exceeded in-transit
 Aug 19 02:30:08.960640 rule 120/(match) pass in on em0: 195.149.248.130 
 192.168.1.2: icmp: echo reply
 Aug 19 02:30:08.961639 rule 120/(match) pass in on em0: 195.149.248.130 
 192.168.1.2: icmp: echo reply
 Aug 19 02:30:08.962888 rule 120/(match) pass in on em0: 195.149.248.130 
 192.168.1.2: icmp: echo reply
 
 When I turn off pf (pfctl -d) 'traceroute -I' work as it should.
 I really don't know what happen.
 Thanks in advance,
 Atanas
 
 Here is my pf.conf
 ##
 pf.conf
 ##
 
  Macros ##
 
 ### Interfaces ###
  ExtIf =em0
  IntIf =em1
 
 ### Hosts ###
  vl=192.168.1.2
  jl=192.168.1.3
  ve=192.168.1.4
  ntp=192.168.1.5
 
 ### Queues, States and Types ###
  IcmpType =icmp-type 8 code 0
  SynState =flags S/SAFR synproxy state
  TcpState =flags S/SAFR modulate state
  UdpState =keep state
 
 ### Ports ###
 # Squid
  squid=2020
 
 # Remote Desktop Connection
  rdc_int=3389
  rdc_ext=4000
 
 # Skype
  vl_skype=30001
  jl_skype=30002
  ve_skype=30003
 
 # uTorrent
  vl_torrent=30004
  jl_torrent=30005
  ve_torrent=30006
  urange=30004:30006
 
 # HFS
  vl_hfs=8080
 
 # VsFTP
  ftprange=55000:6
  FtpPort =8021
 
 # Symux
  symux=2100
 
 # Battle.net
  bnet=6112
 
 # Ssh
  ssh_ext=443
 
 ### Stateful Tracking Options (STO) ###
  ExtIfSTO  =(max 9000, source-track rule, max-src-conn 2000, max-src-nodes
 254)
  IntIfSTO  =(max 250,  source-track rule, max-src-conn 100,  max-src-nodes
 254, max-src-conn-rate 75/20)
  PostfxSTO =(max 100,  source-track rule, max-src-states 5,
 max-src-nodes 30,  max-src-conn-rate 10/300, overload 

Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm

2010-08-18 Thread Ryan Flannery
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:18 PM, ropers rop...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 19 August 2010 01:07, Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net wrote:
 On 08/18/10 14:02, Owain Ainsworth wrote:
 ...
 As a note, scotwm really needs it own mailing list, scrotwm bugs are not
 really topical for misc.

 and a graphic!  don't forget a graphi...

 Here you go:
 http://i.imgur.com/Bns7H.png

nd I now have coffee all over my laptop.

many thanks for that.



KDM Login and fbtab device permissions

2010-08-18 Thread Michael Littlejohn
Hello:
For a while now I have wanted to use the KDM login screen.  However
the problem I'm facing is that KDM doesn't use fbtab by default like
login does.  I want KDM to set device permissions, but for the life of me
in all my research I can't find any information about how to configure
kdm to do that.  If this is not possible then I can deal with that, but if
it is possible, can someone at least please point me to the right
documentation or just outright tell me how to do it.  I don't mind
reading any material, as I do enjoy learning about OpenBSD.
I just want to stop running around in circles on this.

DMESG as follows:
OpenBSD 4.7 (GENERIC) #112: Wed Mar 17 20:43:49 MDT 2010
dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC
real mem = 1072627712 (1022MB)
avail mem = 1032663040 (984MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf0100 (38 entries)
bios0: vendor Award Software International, Inc. version F18 date
03/30/2006
bios0: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. nForce
acpi0 at bios0: rev 0
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC
acpi0: wakeup devices HUB0(S5) HUB1(S4) USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) F139(S3)
MMAC(S5) MMCI(S5) UAR1(S5)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+, 2010.02 MHz
cpu0:
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SSE3,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW
cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 512KB
64b/line 16-way L2 cache
cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
cpu0: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
cpu0: AMD erratum 89 present, BIOS upgrade may be required
cpu0: apic clock running at 200MHz
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 11, 24 pins
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 2 (HUB0)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 1 (AGPB)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus -1 (HUB1)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: PSS
acpipwrres0 at acpi0: ISAV
acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB
cpu0: Cool'n'Quiet K8 2010 MHz: speeds: 2000 1000 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 NVIDIA nForce3 250 PCI Host rev 0xa1
agp at pchb0 not configured
pcib0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 NVIDIA nForce3 250 ISA rev 0xa2
nviic0 at pci0 dev 1 function 1 NVIDIA nForce3 250 SMBus rev 0xa1
iic0 at nviic0
spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 1GB DDR SDRAM non-parity PC3200CL3.0
iic1 at nviic0
ohci0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 NVIDIA nForce3 250 USB rev 0xa1: apic 2 int
20 (irq 5), version 1.0, legacy support
ohci1 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 NVIDIA nForce3 250 USB rev 0xa1: apic 2 int
20 (irq 5), version 1.0, legacy support
ehci0 at pci0 dev 2 function 2 NVIDIA nForce3 250 USB rev 0xa2: apic 2 int
20 (irq 5)
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 NVIDIA EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
nfe0 at pci0 dev 5 function 0 NVIDIA nForce3 LAN rev 0xa2: apic 2 int 20
(irq 10), address 00:14:85:f4:a2:4b
icsphy0 at nfe0 phy 1: ICS1893 10/100 PHY, rev. 1
auich0 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 NVIDIA nForce3 250 AC97 rev 0xa1: apic 2
int 20 (irq 9), nForce3 AC97
ac97: codec id 0x414c4790 (Avance Logic ALC850 rev 0)
audio0 at auich0
pciide0 at pci0 dev 8 function 0 NVIDIA nForce3 250 IDE rev 0xa2: DMA,
channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: ST3300831A
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 286167MB, 586070255 sectors
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 1
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: PHILIPS, DVD+-RW DVD8701, 5D24 ATAPI 5/cdrom
removable
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
cd0(pciide0:0:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
atapiscsi1 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 1
scsibus1 at atapiscsi1: 2 targets
sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: IOMEGA, ZIP 250, 51.G ATAPI 0/direct
removable
sd0: drive offline
sd0(pciide0:1:1): using PIO mode 3
pciide1 at pci0 dev 10 function 0 NVIDIA nForce3 250 SATA rev 0xa2: DMA
pciide1: using apic 2 int 20 (irq 11) for native-PCI interrupt
ppb0 at pci0 dev 11 function 0 NVIDIA nForce3 250 AGP rev 0xa2
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS rev 0xa2
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
ppb1 at pci0 dev 14 function 0 NVIDIA nForce3 250 PCI-PCI rev 0xa2
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
Creative Labs SoundBlaster Audigy LS rev 0x00 at pci2 dev 9 function 0 not
configured
ESS ES2898 Modem rev 0x02 at pci2 dev 10 function 0 not configured
pchb1 at pci0 dev 24 function 0 AMD AMD64 0Fh HyperTransport rev 0x00
pchb2 at pci0 dev 24 function 1 AMD AMD64 0Fh Address Map rev 0x00
pchb3 at pci0 dev 24 function 2 AMD AMD64 0Fh DRAM Cfg rev 0x00
kate0 at pci0 dev 24 function 3 AMD AMD64 0Fh Misc Cfg rev 0x00
isa0 at pcib0
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2010-08-18 Thread no-reply
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