Re: cgi-object not cacheable

2001-11-14 Thread Peter Pilsl

On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 09:18:04PM -0500, Perrin Harkins wrote:
  One run of my script takes about 2 seconds. This includes a lot of
  database-queries, calculations and so on.  about 0.3 seconds are used
  just for one command: $query=new CGI;
 
 That's really awfully slow.  Are you positive it's running under mod_perl?
 Have you considered using Apache::Request instead of CGI.pm?
 

its definitely running under mod_perl. But imho the time it takes to
create a new cgi-object should not depend too much wheter its running
under mod_perl or not, cause the CGI-module is loaded before. (In fact
I load in httpd.conf using PerlModule-Directive)

  This is not a problem of my persistent variables, cause this works
  with many other objects like db-handles (cant use Apache::DBI cause
  this keeps to many handles opened, so I need to cache and pool on my
  own), filehandles etc.
 
 Whoa, you can't use Apache::DBI but you can cache database handles yourself?
 That doesn't make any sense.  What are you doing in your caching that's
 different from what Apache::DBI does?

This makes very much sense. Apache::DBI does not limit the number of
persistent connections. It just keeps all the connections open per
apache-process. This will sum up to about 20 open
database-connections, each having one postgres-client running 'idle in
transaction' - and my old small serversystem is going weak.  So I cant
cache all connections, but only a limited number and so I cache on my
own :) Beside: it is done with a few lines of code, so it wasnt much
work either:

 if (exists($ptr-{global}-{dbhandles}-{_some_id_string}))
 {
$dbh=$ptr-{global}-{dbhandles}-{_some_id_string};
$dbh or err($ptr,19); # there must have been something wrong internally
if (not $dbh-ping) {$connect=1;$r='reconnect'}  # we just reconnect ..
$dbh and $dbh-rollback;   # this issue a new begin-transaction and avoid several 
problem with 'current_timestamp' that dedlivers the value
# of the time at the beginning of the transaction, 
even if this is hours ago. see TROUBLEREPORT1
$r= stored if $r eq '-';
  } else {$connect=1;}   
  if ($connect)
  {
$dbh=DBI-connect(connectinformation)

  }

and on exit I just disconnect all handles but keeping a specified
amount.  I would prefer to handle this in a special pooling-module
like Apache::DBI is, but where one can specify a maximum number of
open connections and a timeout per connection (connection will be
terminated after it was not used a specified amount of time).  As soon
as I get IPC::Sharable to work I'll consider writing such a thingy.

best,
peter


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apache restart messages question

2001-11-14 Thread John Michael

I am getting these error messages when I restart apache on a new mod perl
install.

Starting httpd: Subroutine export redefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/Apache/Constants.pm line 35.
Subroutine name redefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/Apache/Constants.pm line 46.
Subroutine Apache::Constants::__AUTOLOAD redefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/mod_perl.pm line 14.
Subroutine Apache::Constants::SERVER_VERSION redefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/mod_perl.pm line 14.
Subroutine Apache::Constants::SERVER_BUILT redefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/mod_perl.pm line 14.
Subroutine Apache::Constants::DECLINE_CMD redefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/mod_perl.pm line 14.
Subroutine Apache::Constants::DIR_MAGIC_TYPE redefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/mod_perl.pm line 14.
Constant subroutine OK redefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/mod_perl.pm line 65535.
Constant subroutine DECLINED redefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/Apache/Constants.pm line 65535.
Constant subroutine DONE redefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/Apache/Constants.pm line 65535.
Constant subroutine NOT_FOUND redefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/Apache/Constants.pm line 65535.
Constant subroutine FORBIDDEN redefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/Apache/Constants.pm line 65535.
Constant subroutine AUTH_REQUIRED redefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/Apache/Constants.pm line 65535.
Constant subroutine SERVER_ERROR redefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/Apache/Constants.pm line 65535.
Subroutine AUTOLOAD redefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/Apache/Constants.pm line 30.
Constant subroutine AUTH_REQUIRED redefined at /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0/Carp.pm
line 4
Constant subroutine DONE redefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/Apache/Constants.pm line 4
Constant subroutine SERVER_ERROR redefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/Apache/Constants.pm line 4
Constant subroutine NOT_FOUND redefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/Apache/Constants.pm line 4
Constant subroutine FORBIDDEN redefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/Apache/Constants.pm line 4
Constant subroutine OK redefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/Apache/Constants.pm line 4
Constant subroutine DECLINED redefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/Apache/Constants.pm line 4
Subroutine handler redefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/Apache/Registry.pm line 27.
Subroutine compile redefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/Apache/Registry.pm line 174.
Subroutine parse_cmdline redefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/Apache/Registry.pm line 190.
Subroutine DESTROY redefined at
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/Apache/Registry.pm line 214.
[  OK  ]

Here is my perl conf file.
Alias /perl/ /home/www/dvdsex4u/perl/
PerlModule Apache::Registry
Location /perl
 SetHandler perl-script
 PerlHandler Apache::Registry
 Options ExecCGI
 allow from all
 PerlSendHeader On
/Location

#This bit of code, causes apache to exit gracefully on any request for
Microshit files: nimbda fighter
PerlModule Apache::Constants
LocationMatch \.(ida|exe|dll|asp)$
SetHandler perl-script
PerlInitHandler Apache::Constants::DONE
/LocationMatch

PerlRequire  /etc/httpd/conf/perl_conf/startup.pl
PerlFreshRestart On
PerlWarn On


I have this same setup on another server and it starts and works fine.
The server appears to have started.
Should I just disreguard these messages.

thanks
John michael


- Original Message -
From: Peter Pilsl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Perrin Harkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 3:03 AM
Subject: Re: cgi-object not cacheable


 On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 09:18:04PM -0500, Perrin Harkins wrote:
   One run of my script takes about 2 seconds. This includes a lot of
   database-queries, calculations and so on.  about 0.3 seconds are used
   just for one command: $query=new CGI;
 
  That's really awfully slow.  Are you positive it's running under
mod_perl?
  Have you considered using Apache::Request instead of CGI.pm?
 

 its definitely running under mod_perl. But imho the time it takes to
 create a new cgi-object should not depend too much wheter its running
 under mod_perl or not, cause the CGI-module is loaded before. (In fact
 I load in httpd.conf using PerlModule-Directive)

   This is not a problem of my persistent variables, cause this works
   with many other objects like db-handles (cant use Apache::DBI cause
   this keeps to many handles opened, so I need to cache and pool on my
   own), filehandles etc.
 
  Whoa, you can't use Apache::DBI but you can cache database handles
yourself?
  That doesn't make any sense.  What are you doing in your caching that's
  different from what Apache::DBI 

mod_perl.so not built after building mod_perl

2001-11-14 Thread Manjrekar Pratiksha



 Hello, 
I have a Solaris machine
System Configuration:
OS: SUN Solaris
I have installed Apache ver 1.3.9
I have also installed mod_perl -1.26.
However when I make the mod_perl package I do not get the mod_perl.so file.
Could anyone tell the reason for this?
regards,
Pratiksha
 


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Re: mod_perl.so not built after building mod_perl

2001-11-14 Thread SubbaReddy M

You need select the option for dso on configuring.

See the docs for your required installation, may help you.

http://perl.apache.org/guide/install.html#Build_mod_perl_as_a_DSO_inside_t
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/dso.html

Currently, i am doing it for Linux 6.2 (Redhat).

Best of luck.

-SubbaReddy

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Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:09 AM
Subject: mod_perl.so not built after building mod_perl




  Hello,
 I have a Solaris machine
 System Configuration:
 OS: SUN Solaris
 I have installed Apache ver 1.3.9
 I have also installed mod_perl -1.26.
 However when I make the mod_perl package I do not get the mod_perl.so
file.
 Could anyone tell the reason for this?
 regards,
 Pratiksha



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Re: PPerl

2001-11-14 Thread Miroslav Madzarevic

PPerl is written in C and from a superficial look at the source code I'd say it's not 
very difficult to understand.
If you want a pure perl solution take a look at POE (its being worked on ithreads 
these days but can use event
driven fork) or consider writing something yourself. I guess the whole idea is in 
using socets and selects for 
waiting and then using eval on your end code.
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RE: PPerl

2001-11-14 Thread Matt Sergeant

 -Original Message-
 From: Miroslav Madzarevic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
 PPerl is written in C and from a superficial look at the 
 source code I'd say it's not very difficult to understand.

The stub is written in C. That's the point. You need a very fast, light C
stub, because the time is taken up by compiling the perl code, not in
forking these days.

 If you want a pure perl solution take a look at POE (its 
 being worked on ithreads these days but can use event
 driven fork) or consider writing something yourself.

Doesn't help. You still need something to call into your daemon. If that's
perl code you're going to have similar (though not necessarily identical)
slow startup problems.

(note that I think POE is great, but it's the wrong solution here)

Matt.

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how to install the XML::LibXSLT along with libxslt?

2001-11-14 Thread SubbaReddy M



I am very sorry to apache mail list, becuase of 
posting the not related query.
So, i am epxecting help from successfully work 
one.
And Daniel is the author of this, so i am directly 
posting him.

I apologise for inconvenience.


I am trying to install XML::LibXML
but for that, first I need to install the 
libxslt-1.0.6

For this I have installed 
libxml2-2.4.7-1.i386.rpm 
And how to set XPath, after installing this 
libxml2-2.4.7-i386.rpm ?

I saw in README file in libxslt-1.0.6 
bundle.
i.e.,

 
XSLT support for libxml2

 
http://xmlsoft.org/

Requires libxml2 = 2.3.6 with XPath 
support. It won't even compileotherwise.Check the FEATURES file 
for informations about completenessCheck the Changelog too to keep 
track of progresses.

 report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or on the bugzilla.gnome.org 
base.

Daniel Veillard

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

So, while installing libxslt-1.0.6 
i am getting error atlast, that is " checking 
for libxml libraries = 2.4.7... ./configure: xml2-config: command not found 
"


[root@qclinux libxslt-1.0.6]# 
./configureloading cache ./config.cachechecking for a BSD compatible 
install... /usr/bin/install -cchecking whether build environment is sane... 
yeschecking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yeschecking for working 
aclocal... foundchecking for working autoconf... foundchecking for 
working automake... foundchecking for working autoheader... 
foundchecking for working makeinfo... foundchecking whether to enable 
maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... nochecking for gcc... 
gccchecking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... yeschecking 
whether the C compiler (gcc ) is a cross-compiler... nochecking 
whether we are using GNU C... yeschecking whether gcc accepts -g... 
yeschecking for POSIXized ISC... nochecking for gcc... (cached) 
gccchecking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) works... yeschecking 
whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) is a cross-compiler... nochecking 
whether we are using GNU C... (cached) yeschecking whether gcc accepts -g... 
(cached) yeschecking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -Echecking for 
ANSI C header files... yeschecking for Cygwin environment... nochecking 
for mingw32 environment... nochecking host system type... 
i686-pc-linux-gnuchecking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnuchecking 
for ld used by GCC... /usr/bin/ldchecking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU 
ld... yeschecking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... 
-rchecking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -Bchecking whether ln -s 
works... yeschecking how to recognise dependant libraries... 
pass_allchecking for object suffix... ochecking for executable suffix... 
nochecking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output... okchecking for 
dlfcn.h... yeschecking for ranlib... ranlibchecking for strip... 
stripchecking for objdir... .libschecking for gcc option to produce 
PIC... -fPICchecking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yeschecking if gcc 
static flag -static works... yeschecking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... 
yeschecking if gcc supports -c -o file.lo... yeschecking if gcc supports 
-fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... yeschecking whether the linker (/usr/bin/ld) 
supports shared libraries... yeschecking how to hardcode library paths into 
programs... immediatechecking whether stripping libraries is possible... 
yeschecking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.sochecking if 
libtool supports shared libraries... yeschecking whether -lc should be 
explicitly linked in... nocreating libtoolchecking for sys/types.h... 
yeschecking for sys/time.h... yeschecking for stdlib.h... 
yeschecking for unistd.h... yeschecking for string.h... yeschecking 
for ieeefp.h... nochecking for nan.h... nochecking for math.h... 
yeschecking for fp_class.h... nochecking for float.h... yeschecking 
for ansidecl.h... yeschecking for time.h... yeschecking for 
sys/stat.h... yeschecking for stat... yeschecking for _stat... 
nochecking for isnan... yeschecking for isinf... yeschecking for 
pow... nochecking for pow in -lm... yeschecking for floor... 
nochecking for pow in -lm... (cached) yeschecking for fabs... 
nochecking for pow in -lm... (cached) yeschecking for gettimeofday... 
yeschecking for mktime... yeschecking for localtime... yeschecking 
for asctime... yeschecking for time... yeschecking for gmtime... 
yeschecking for perl... perlchecking for libxml libraries = 2.4.7... 
./configure: xml2-config: command not found./configure: test: integer 
expression expected before -geconfigure: error: You need at least libxml2 
2.4.7 for this version of libxslt

Please, help me.


-SubbaReddy




Re: how to install the XML::LibXSLT along with libxslt?

2001-11-14 Thread Bill Moseley
At 08:03 PM 11/14/01 -0800, SubbaReddy M wrote: 

Maybe a question for the libxml2 list instead of mod_perl?

So, while installing libxslt-1.0.6 
i am getting error atlast, that is  " checking for libxml libraries >= 2.4.7... ./configure: xml2-config: command not found "

Did you make install libxml2?

> which xml2-config
/usr/local/bin/xml2-config





Bill Moseley
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RE: how to install the XML::LibXSLT along with libxslt?

2001-11-14 Thread Matt Sergeant

You also need libxml2-devel, same for libxslt. This is covered in the
INSTALL file.

PS: PLEASE! Stop posting in HTML format. It makes it incredibly difficult at
this end.

Matt.
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-Original Message-
From: SubbaReddy M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 November 2001 04:03
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: how to install the XML::LibXSLT along with libxslt?


I am very sorry to apache mail list, becuase of posting the not related
query.
So, i am epxecting help from successfully work one.
And Daniel is the author of this, so i am directly posting him.

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Re: how to install the XML::LibXSLT along with libxslt?

2001-11-14 Thread Rafiq Ismail

This rings a bell.  I recently had to isntall libxml2-2.45 with
libxslt-1.04 on a solaris box.  I remember getting warnings when trying to
install libxslt telling me that the version of libxml was not up to date.


Fix to this involved using the:
 
 --with-libxml-prefix=[PFX]Specify location of libxml

option when running configure.  For some reason it wasn't by default using
/usr/local/lib/..whatever.  Fixed the problem though.




On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, SubbaReddy M wrote:

 I am very sorry to apache mail list, becuase of posting the not related query.
 So, i am epxecting help from successfully work one.
 And Daniel is the author of this, so i am directly posting him.
 
 I apologise for inconvenience.
 
 
 I am trying to install XML::LibXML
 but for that, first I need to install the libxslt-1.0.6
 
 For this I have installed  
  libxml2-2.4.7-1.i386.rpm 
 And how to set XPath, after installing this libxml2-2.4.7-i386.rpm ?
 
 I  saw in README file in libxslt-1.0.6 bundle.
 i.e.,
 
   XSLT support for libxml2
 
   http://xmlsoft.org/
 
  Requires libxml2 = 2.3.6 with XPath support. It won't even compile
 otherwise.
  Check the FEATURES file for informations about completeness
  Check the Changelog too to keep track of progresses.
 
report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or on the bugzilla.gnome.org base.
 
 Daniel Veillard
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 So, while installing libxslt-1.0.6 
 i am getting error atlast, that is   checking for libxml libraries = 2.4.7... 
./configure: xml2-config: command not found 
 
 
 [root@qclinux libxslt-1.0.6]# ./configure
 loading cache ./config.cache
 checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
 checking whether build environment is sane... yes
 checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
 checking for working aclocal... found
 checking for working autoconf... found
 checking for working automake... found
 checking for working autoheader... found
 checking for working makeinfo... found
 checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
 checking for gcc... gcc
 checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... yes
 checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) is a cross-compiler... no
 checking whether we are using GNU C... yes
 checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
 checking for POSIXized ISC... no
 checking for gcc... (cached) gcc
 checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) works... yes
 checking whether the C compiler (gcc -g -O2 ) is a cross-compiler... no
 checking whether we are using GNU C... (cached) yes
 checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes
 checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
 checking for ANSI C header files... yes
 checking for Cygwin environment... no
 checking for mingw32 environment... no
 checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
 checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
 checking for ld used by GCC... /usr/bin/ld
 checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes
 checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r
 checking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -B
 checking whether ln -s works... yes
 checking how to recognise dependant libraries... pass_all
 checking for object suffix... o
 checking for executable suffix... no
 checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output... ok
 checking for dlfcn.h... yes
 checking for ranlib... ranlib
 checking for strip... strip
 checking for objdir... .libs
 checking for gcc option to produce PIC... -fPIC
 checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes
 checking if gcc static flag -static works... yes
 checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes
 checking if gcc supports -c -o file.lo... yes
 checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... yes
 checking whether the linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes
 checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
 checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes
 checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so
 checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes
 checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... no
 creating libtool
 checking for sys/types.h... yes
 checking for sys/time.h... yes
 checking for stdlib.h... yes
 checking for unistd.h... yes
 checking for string.h... yes
 checking for ieeefp.h... no
 checking for nan.h... no
 checking for math.h... yes
 checking for fp_class.h... no
 checking for float.h... yes
 checking for ansidecl.h... yes
 checking for time.h... yes
 checking for sys/stat.h... yes
 checking for stat... yes
 checking for _stat... no
 checking for isnan... yes
 checking for isinf... yes
 checking for pow... no
 checking for pow in -lm... yes
 checking for floor... no
 checking for pow in -lm... (cached) yes
 checking for fabs... no
 checking for pow in -lm... (cached) yes
 checking for gettimeofday... yes
 checking for mktime... yes
 checking for localtime... yes
 checking for asctime... yes
 checking for time... yes
 checking for gmtime... yes
 checking for 

Apache causes exception when a module calls die

2001-11-14 Thread Maarten Koskamp

Hi All,

I am expriencing a problem using apache 1.3.20 binary distribution for
win32.
This problem both occurs on Windows98 as well as WindowsNT Server (SP6a).
I also use HTML::Mason 1.25 and the XML::parser.

Inside one of the modules there is an eval block.
In the code executed withing this eval block there is a die that is called
when an operation failed.
This die causes the Apache child process to crash and generates an Dr.
Watson message.

Also the $m-abort() method of mason (which implements a die) causes this
error to occur.

Anyone familiar with this problem?
Any solutions?

Thanks in Advance,

Maarten.




Re: [challenge] new mod_perl site

2001-11-14 Thread Robin Berjon

On Wednesday 14 November 2001 03:27, Perrin Harkins wrote:
  What about an additional requirement:
 
  The site should be validated sucessfully by validator.w3.org

 Maybe we should give the horse a chance to catch up to the cart...

 Once there is a design that people are satisfied with, you are more than
 welcome to submit patches to fix validation problems.

Agreed, but it's far easier to start cleanly. Fixing designer-code can be 
insanely hard and time consuming. Be strict in what you... and all that.

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Re: [challenge] new mod_perl site

2001-11-14 Thread Stas Bekman

Robin Berjon wrote:

 On Wednesday 14 November 2001 03:27, Perrin Harkins wrote:
 
What about an additional requirement:

The site should be validated sucessfully by validator.w3.org

Maybe we should give the horse a chance to catch up to the cart...

Once there is a design that people are satisfied with, you are more than
welcome to submit patches to fix validation problems.

 
 Agreed, but it's far easier to start cleanly. Fixing designer-code can be 
 insanely hard and time consuming. Be strict in what you... and all that.


Robin,

May be I was not clear. You can change whatever you want in the 
templates. There is no design at this moment! Scratch what you see and 
make a new one.

The only requirement was to keep the navigation (which is very minimal) 
as is, while you can decorate the navigation any way you want (these are 
just hyperlinks!). The use of Splash library for widgets was just to 
make it easier to construct and maintain the site. If you don't feel 
like using it, fine but please make the templates maintainable in the 
text editor.

In any case if you look at the templates, they are bare bones. So it 
shouldn't be time consuming and of course it's not insanely hard. I 
think you didn't look at the source before saying what you've said.

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Re: [challenge] new mod_perl site

2001-11-14 Thread Robin Berjon

On Wednesday 14 November 2001 16:55, Stas Bekman wrote:
 Robin Berjon wrote:
  On Wednesday 14 November 2001 03:27, Perrin Harkins wrote:
 Maybe we should give the horse a chance to catch up to the cart...
 
 Once there is a design that people are satisfied with, you are more than
 welcome to submit patches to fix validation problems.
 
  Agreed, but it's far easier to start cleanly. Fixing designer-code can
  be insanely hard and time consuming. Be strict in what you... and all
  that.

 May be I was not clear. You can change whatever you want in the
 templates. There is no design at this moment! Scratch what you see and
 make a new one.

Stas, maybe it's me that wasn't clear :-) When I said designer-code, I 
didn't mean _your_ code, I meant something that someone would submit that 
wouldn't be clean (X)HTML.

 In any case if you look at the templates, they are bare bones. So it
 shouldn't be time consuming and of course it's not insanely hard. I
 think you didn't look at the source before saying what you've said.

I didn't say that ! I was answering (what I understood from) Perrin's email 
that said that maybe people should submit their design in whatever form they 
want (ie with whatever degree of code cleanliness) and once we have a good 
design we can clean that up. I'm not against that approach, but I think it's 
easier to have clean code to start with (again, in the submissions made to 
the contest, I wasn't referring to your code _at_all_).

You want the templates to be editable in a text editor, and I think that's a 
very good requirement. Clean code to start with will make that a lot easier. 
Also, this is not the web of '95 anymore. Gradually, HTML is having a chance 
of becoming less of a dirty word. I'm suggesting we do our small part in 
helping progress.

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Apache::PerlRun und Prototypes

2001-11-14 Thread Michael . Jacob

Hi,

I just found that one of our Perl scripts used CORE::exit, I changed that
and found a whole bunch of problems. The biggest one is, that
Apache::PerlRun doesn't seem to like prototypes. It runs the script some
times but will eventually fail with

[Wed Nov 14 17:05:00 2001] [error] PerlRun: `[Wed Nov 14 17:05:00 2001] Subs.pl: [Wed 
Nov 14 17:05:00 2001] Subs.pl: Not a CODE reference at
/opt/y/cgi-bin/Sources/MJTools.pl line 110.
[Wed Nov 14 17:05:00 2001] Subs.pl: Compilation failed in require.
'

MJTools.pl:110 is fclose(F);
Subs.pl is sub fclose ($) {

I removed all prototypes and this problem was gone. Oh, BTW: The mentioned files and 
line number doesn't always relate to the problem.

Another point was this construct:

use subs 'exit';
sub exit {
[...]
   CORE::exit( $_[0] || 0 );
}

eval {
main; # uses exit() at about 100 places
};
if ($@) {
fatal_error(Untrapped Error:BR $@);
}

I'm still not sure how to change that The Right Way to work with mod_perl, but the 
following works. Maxbe someone has a better idea?

use subs 'exit';
sub exit {
[...]
Apache::exit(0); # 0=OK, -2=DONE
}

eval {
main;
};
if ($@ =~ /^\S+at /s) {
fatal_error(Untrapped Error:BR $@);
}
Apache::exit(0);

Yes, both Apache::exits are needed. If I leave the first one a CORE::exit, the child 
really exits, if I leave out the second, it would 500...

Michael





RE: Re: cgi-object not cacheable

2001-11-14 Thread

Check out the docs at:

http://stein.cshl.org/WWW/software/CGI/#mod_perl

There's specific notes on how to make CGI.pm play nicely with mod_perl.


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Re: [challenge] new mod_perl site

2001-11-14 Thread Stas Bekman

Robin Berjon wrote:

 On Wednesday 14 November 2001 16:55, Stas Bekman wrote:
 
Robin Berjon wrote:

On Wednesday 14 November 2001 03:27, Perrin Harkins wrote:

Maybe we should give the horse a chance to catch up to the cart...

Once there is a design that people are satisfied with, you are more than
welcome to submit patches to fix validation problems.

Agreed, but it's far easier to start cleanly. Fixing designer-code can
be insanely hard and time consuming. Be strict in what you... and all
that.

May be I was not clear. You can change whatever you want in the
templates. There is no design at this moment! Scratch what you see and
make a new one.

 
 Stas, maybe it's me that wasn't clear :-) When I said designer-code, I 
 didn't mean _your_ code, I meant something that someone would submit that 
 wouldn't be clean (X)HTML.
 
 
In any case if you look at the templates, they are bare bones. So it
shouldn't be time consuming and of course it's not insanely hard. I
think you didn't look at the source before saying what you've said.

 
 I didn't say that ! I was answering (what I understood from) Perrin's email 
 that said that maybe people should submit their design in whatever form they 
 want (ie with whatever degree of code cleanliness) and once we have a good 
 design we can clean that up. I'm not against that approach, but I think it's 
 easier to have clean code to start with (again, in the submissions made to 
 the contest, I wasn't referring to your code _at_all_).
 
 You want the templates to be editable in a text editor, and I think that's a 
 very good requirement. Clean code to start with will make that a lot easier. 
 Also, this is not the web of '95 anymore. Gradually, HTML is having a chance 
 of becoming less of a dirty word. I'm suggesting we do our small part in 
 helping progress.


Oh, OK, so we think the same way. I think what Perrin was trying to say 
is that we should stop talking and get things moving. Once we decide on 
the best design, others can send patches to make sure that the design is 
valid, etc.

All three of us are saying the same:

   If you[1] don't like the way the site is now,
   don't bitch about it but change it completing the challenge.

I think I've prepared a good infrastructure for accomplishing this goal. 
  it's not perfect but it's a good start. Now just throw in your talent 
and create this very cool-slick-eye-candy site, as long as you adher to 
the rules I've listed in the original challenge.

[1] you == all those who care, have a little time on their hands, and 
know-how.

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RE: [challenge] new mod_perl site

2001-11-14 Thread Antoine Quint

If you[1] don't like the way the site is now,
don't bitch about it but change it completing the challenge.

Well, I'd be up to having a crack at it... Would you be ok publishing
the site with AxKit? Coding websites with it is so easy!

Robin, are you with me on that one?

Antoine




solved, sorry (was Re: missing /virtualhost directive)

2001-11-14 Thread Thomas Bach

sorry for the derangement, i solved it today
thanks anyway!

Thomas Bach


think karo... bkaro.net

At 23:59 13/11/01 +0100, Thomas Bach wrote:
Hello

We're running a cobalt raq4 and have some problems with the apache 
configuration. the configuration over the web-interface works all fine, 
but when i add some lines in the httpd.conf for the mod_perl-things (p.ex. 
PerlInitHandler Apache::Reload  PerlModule Apache::Registry) and some 
handlers of myself, a restart succeeds, but with the message:

mod_perl: /VirtualHost
mod_perl: Missing /VirtualHost directive at end-of-file
chiliasp: module started, version 3.5.2.31
/usr/sbin/httpd

and the cobalt-web-interface for server administration isn't available 
over the ../admin/ adress, which should be rewritten by a rule written in 
some $PerlConfig-Variable which is filled in a Perl /Perl - part of 
the httpd.conf 

do you have any hints? i don't know this server really good, but it seems 
to me that it should be obvious for people working with it ...

thanks alot in advance!

Thomas Bach



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Re: cgi-object not cacheable

2001-11-14 Thread Peter Pilsl

On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 10:39:36AM -0500, Perrin Harkins wrote:
  its definitely running under mod_perl. But imho the time it takes to
  create a new cgi-object should not depend too much wheter its running
  under mod_perl or not, cause the CGI-module is loaded before. (In fact
  I load in httpd.conf using PerlModule-Directive)
 
 If it was running under CGI, it would be compiling CGI.pm on each request,
 which I've seen take .3 seconds.  Taking that long just to create the new
 CGI instance seems unusual.  How did you time it?  Are you using
 Apache::DProf?


Wouldnt it be compiled at the use-statement ? I timed it using
module-internal loggingfunction which use time::hires.
 
  This makes very much sense. Apache::DBI does not limit the number of
  persistent connections. It just keeps all the connections open per
  apache-process.
 
 That should mean one connection per process if you're connecting with the
 same parameters every time.
 

in my case it means up to 4 connections per process, cause in fact it
is not one module but 2 (input and output) and each needs to handle 2 different
connections.

   if (exists($ptr-{global}-{dbhandles}-{_some_id_string}))
 
 You know that this is only for one process, right?  If you limit this cache
 to 20 connections, you may get hundreds of connections.
 

yes, thats why I limit it to 1 or even 0.

  I would prefer to handle this in a special pooling-module
  like Apache::DBI is, but where one can specify a maximum number of
  open connections and a timeout per connection (connection will be
  terminated after it was not used a specified amount of time).
 
 You can just set a timeout in your database server.  If a connection times
 out and then needs to be used, the ping will fail and Apache::DBI will
 re-connect.

thats an interesting idea. I experienced crashes on ping to dead
connections under DBD::Pg but this is worth to check.

 
  As soon
  as I get IPC::Sharable to work I'll consider writing such a thingy.
 
 You can't share database handles over IPC::Shareable, but you could share a
 global number tracking how many total database handles exist.  However, I
 think you'd be better off using Apache::DBI and limiting the number of
 Apache children to the number of connections your database can deal with.
 

I hope to share databasehandles via IPC. One has to avoid that only
one process writes to a handle at the same time !! (hope I'm right
here) This would offer possibilities to create a pool of handles with
limited max. number and clientsided timeouts. If a process requests a
handle and there is one cached in the pool it will give this handle
back. Otherwise it will create a new handle or - if max. number is
reached - return 0. The calling application can then decide to print
an excuse due to the user 'cause we are so popular we cant server you
:)' or create and destroy a temporary handle to process the request.

This would be something I would actually prefer to Apache::DBI, but I
dont know if its possible, but I'll try.  Such a thing would be very
important, especially on slow servers with less ram, where Apache::DBI
opens to many connections in peak-times and leaves the system in a bad
condition ('to many open filehandles')

peter

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Re: [challenge] new mod_perl site

2001-11-14 Thread Robin Berjon

On Wednesday 14 November 2001 17:48, Antoine Quint wrote:
 If you[1] don't like the way the site is now,
 don't bitch about it but change it completing the challenge.

 Well, I'd be up to having a crack at it... Would you be ok publishing
 the site with AxKit? Coding websites with it is so easy!

 Robin, are you with me on that one?

Hehe. I don't think you've made many friends here today ;-)

Stas has chosen another solution, based on TT2. In a private discussion with 
him, he said that it should be trivial to get that system to export XML, 
which we could then import into another site (perhaps take23.org ?) so that 
we could have an AxKit based mirror of the site, with all the cool stuff us 
XML froods love.

If you want to submit a design, by all means forge ahead. I for one know how 
cool your designs can be. Plus, I know it'll be clean code. But don't expect 
to have a chance to use XSLT there, you'll have to learn TT2 syntax, or find 
someone that will do the translation for you (I would, but I haven't used TT 
in way too long to remember).

If that discourages you, then wait a little bit until we get the XML export, 
I'll definitely be with you on that one ;-)

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RE: mod_perl.so not built after building mod_perl

2001-11-14 Thread Manjrekar Pratiksha

Hello again,
As you suggested I have used apache1.3.22 version..
However I have the following problem:
1. While installing modperl v1.24, i got a warning message that apache1.3.0 
is recommended..Should I go ahead with it?(since you recommended 
apache1.3.22)
2. I also tried apache v1.3.0 .During the process, I had to change my 
modperl version to 1.24_01. This again had quite some problems.

Could you please suggest me a apache version as well as a mod_perl version 
compatible to it in the Solaris environment?
Thanks in advance,
regards,
Pratiksha


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Subject:Re: mod_perl.so not built after building mod_perl

Manjrekar Pratiksha [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Hello,
 I have a Solaris machine
 System Configuration:
   OS: SUN Solaris
 I have installed Apache ver 1.3.9

If this is a new install, I would suggest using a newer version of
apache (1.3.22 is current) unless you have compeling reasons not to.

 I have also installed mod_perl -1.26.
 However when I make the mod_perl package I do not get the mod_perl.so 
file.
 Could anyone tell the reason for this?

How did you build mod_perl? I might be wrong, but most people I've
spoken to advise against building mod_perl as a DSO module.

If you are building mod_perl into Apache, then you won't get a .so
file as it will be part of the httpd binary. (correct me if I'm wrong
please someone :()

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Re: cgi-object not cacheable

2001-11-14 Thread Perrin Harkins

  If it was running under CGI, it would be compiling CGI.pm on each
request,
  which I've seen take .3 seconds.  Taking that long just to create the
new
  CGI instance seems unusual.  How did you time it?  Are you using
  Apache::DProf?
 

 Wouldnt it be compiled at the use-statement ?

Yes, but when running under CGI (the protocol, not the module) that use
statement is executed every time.

 I timed it using
 module-internal loggingfunction which use time::hires.

That's usually pretty accurate, so I guess it really takes that long on your
system.  Try Apache::Request!  Or even one of the lighter CGI modules like
CGI_Lite.

 in my case it means up to 4 connections per process, cause in fact it
 is not one module but 2 (input and output) and each needs to handle 2
different
 connections.

If you could reduce that, it would certainly help your application's
performance.

 I hope to share databasehandles via IPC. One has to avoid that only
 one process writes to a handle at the same time !!

IPC::Shareable, and most of the other options, use Storable to serialize
data structures.  Storable can't serialize an open socket.  You *CAN* share
sockets, but you'd have to write some custom C code to do it.  You might
look at the Sybase thing that was posted here recently.  (I haven't looked
at it yet, but it sounded interesting.)

 if max. number is
 reached - return 0. The calling application can then decide to print
 an excuse due to the user 'cause we are so popular we cant server you
 :)' or create and destroy a temporary handle to process the request.

Even with temporary handles, you have the possibility of all servers being
busy at once and thus using all 4 handles.

 This would be something I would actually prefer to Apache::DBI, but I
 dont know if its possible, but I'll try.  Such a thing would be very
 important, especially on slow servers with less ram, where Apache::DBI
 opens to many connections in peak-times and leaves the system in a bad
 condition ('to many open filehandles')

I still think you'd be better off just limiting the total number of servers
with MaxClients.  Put a reverse proxy in front and you'll offload all the
work that doesn't require a database handle.

 ps: just if one is interested: today I was very happy to wear a helmet
 when I crashed with my bike ;)

I guess my mother was right about that.  Keep your helmet on!

Glad you're not dead,
Perrin




Re: [challenge] new mod_perl site

2001-11-14 Thread Stas Bekman

Robin Berjon wrote:

 On Wednesday 14 November 2001 17:48, Antoine Quint wrote:
 
   If you[1] don't like the way the site is now,
   don't bitch about it but change it completing the challenge.

Well, I'd be up to having a crack at it... Would you be ok publishing
the site with AxKit? Coding websites with it is so easy!

Robin, are you with me on that one?
 
 Hehe. I don't think you've made many friends here today ;-)


See, Robin is afraid of the angry crowd ;-) You have to hide now ;-)

 
 Stas has chosen another solution, based on TT2. In a private discussion with 
 him, he said that it should be trivial to get that system to export XML, 
 which we could then import into another site (perhaps take23.org ?) so that 
 we could have an AxKit based mirror of the site, with all the cool stuff us 
 XML froods love.


Currently the rendering engine is not tied very tightly to the code, so 
once you come up with whatever other rendering engine you prefer we will 
generalize things and support it directly, and any other rendering 
engines that may be added in the future.

I needed to get things done so I moved on with TT2 for the site 
generation, since I know it and it's a great toolkit. By all means do 
check the project out, see how you can put your expertise in and have 
everybody happy.

My point is still that design has nothing to do with whether you do it 
with template toolkit, xml or what not. If it really prevents you from 
submitting your design, just send it in whatever way you prefer. It'll 
make be hard to integrate it then, but I hope that will be do-able.

But let's move this discussion to the docset mailing list.

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RE: cgi-object not cacheable

2001-11-14 Thread Andy Sharp

 That's usually pretty accurate, so I guess it really takes 
 that long on your system.  Try Apache::Request!  Or even one 
 of the lighter CGI modules like CGI_Lite.
 
  in my case it means up to 4 connections per process, cause 
 in fact it 
  is not one module but 2 (input and output) and each needs 
 to handle 2
 different
  connections.
 
 If you could reduce that, it would certainly help your 
 application's performance.

You should be able to recude that a fair pile.  Unless you're connecting to
multiple Boxes, via Multiple DBI-connect statements, you should be able to
piggyback all requests to a given DB server down the one connection.

SELECT fields FROM database.tablename ...  I use that a fair bit to avoid
the overhead of keeping an extra connection in Memory.

If it's a function of userids, you should work with your DBA to ensure that
one user account can do what's needed from the pages.  

I really can't imagine that you _need_ to connect to 4 different datasources
in most pages.


  This would be something I would actually prefer to 
 Apache::DBI, but I 
  dont know if its possible, but I'll try.  Such a thing 
 would be very 
  important, especially on slow servers with less ram, where 
 Apache::DBI 
  opens to many connections in peak-times and leaves the 
 system in a bad 
  condition ('to many open filehandles')
 
 I still think you'd be better off just limiting the total 
 number of servers with MaxClients.  Put a reverse proxy in 
 front and you'll offload all the work that doesn't require a 
 database handle.
 

I agree with Perrin here.  On my systems, the mod_perl processes never have
a peak time  where they start openning more connections, since I just
configure Apache to start 110 Processes and never launch more than 110
Processes.  The Database always has 110 connections to it. 

Just about the only time you *can't* use Apache::DBI is if you're
deliberately re-connecting on page load.  Typically the only reason you'd do
this is if you were changing the authentication parameters of the connection
based on the request data.  In that case, Apache::DBI would prove no aid.

If you're getting 'too many open filehandles' it sounds like there's some
additional tuning to do on the OS level.  FreeBSD needs to be tuned to
properly run mod_perl, I suspect you may need to increase the Maxfiles and
Maxfilesperproc (or whatever OS equiv) on your system.

As Perrin says, just limit the number of httpd-Mod_perl processes, offload
any and all text/images which is not request driven to a proxy system.

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Doing Authorization using mod_perl from a programmers perspective

2001-11-14 Thread Jonathan E. Paton

I am trying to create a website with predominantly dynamic
content (mod_perl + DBI + mySQL) for an online community. 
I can manage Perl and mySQL fairly proficently, however
I've no idea how to successfully create what I want using
mod_perl and Apache (actually, I know next to nothing about
them).

--- Background information ---

The website shall be split into a public and private
section, and will share a common layout and appearance
(although I might add little visual clues to indicate which
section they are in).  When members wish to login I want
them to do so via the public section (from that page), and
then be able to access the additional links/features of the
private section.

I wish to handle all the database actions in my own code,
unless something fits perfectly.  When members try to
login, my aims are:

1. Check login name, and password.
2. Check member hasn't been suspended.
3. Return the membership ID number for the next stage.

The membership ID number will be used to decide what access
level the members have (what forums, tools etc they can see
and use).  The SQL table is specified as:

CREATE TABLE access (
  member_id int(10) unsigned NOT NULL,
  account_name varchar(16) NOT NULL,
  account_password varchar(16) NOT NULL,
  state enum('A', 'S') DEFAULT 'A' NOT NULL,

PRIMARY KEY (account_name)
);

Imagine I now create an object to wrap around this, with
the following method:

my $permission =  $access-check($account_name,
$account_password);

which returns the membership number if valid,
or the value -1 for a suspended account,
or undef for no account.

--- Questions ---

1. Can this be done (nicely) as a
authentication/authorization handlier?

2. Do most hosting companies allow
authentication/authorization handlers?  (Using HostRocket
at the moment).

3. What is the most appropriate session management system? 
I'm thinking of using cookies (client side) to store a
session key, rather than resubmitting the password data. 
The server side stores this session key in the database.

4. How does the membership ID get passed to the next stage?

5. What is the time to do additional access checking (for
senior/admin users)?  I was planning to do it a little
later on, but it is probably better to do it once (i.e.
with this).

6. What is a realistic time to expect all this to happen
in?

I'm sure I've missed a few questions...

Any help appriecated, especially links to relevent
documentation.

Jonathan Paton

NB - Whilst my preferred answer to these questions is a
coded solution, I have a restriction (self imposed) - I'd
prefer to have full copyright on the final code, thus I ask
any major ideas/code includes permission to use it freely -
or else be good enough to be worth adding your name provide
I use it :) 

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Re: asp perl problem

2001-11-14 Thread Joshua Chamas

Julian Martin wrote:
 
 Hi
 I am new to perl and would like to make a asp page with a script that will
 find all files in a given directory and create links to different files in
 another directory. The two sets of files are images (thumbnails and big
 pics) so I would also like to show the thumbnails on the page and have the
 links to the bigger pics.
 I already have all the images and do not need a thumbnail generator. I just
 want it so that when I add new images thats it. I am not asking for a
 complete answer only a pointer towards which functions would best do this
 job etc.
 Any help you can give would be great.
 Ju.
 

This isn't really an Apache::ASP ( or modperl ) question, so in the 
future another forum should be used for posting perl questions of
this nature like news:comp.lang.perl.misc ... for Apache::ASP issues the 
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# find all files in a given directory
my @files = globa(/path/to/dir);

# create a link to another file, see perldoc -f symlink
symlink($old_file, $new_file) || die(can't symlink $old_file to $new_file: $!);

If you are unix, and are more familiar with command line commands,
then you can also do:

  my $output = `ln -s $old_file $new_file`;
  $output || die(error doing ln -s $old_file $new_file: $output);

If glob() doesn't work on your platform, you can try 
opendir(), readdir(), closedir()

Since it sounds like you are writing a gallery, you might try
instead to use one already written like Apache::Gallery.

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Re: Doing Authorization using mod_perl from a programmers perspective

2001-11-14 Thread Ged Haywood

Hi there,

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, [iso-8859-1] Jonathan E. Paton wrote:

 I am trying to create a website [snip]
 NB - Whilst my preferred answer to these questions is a
 coded solution, [snip]

We like people to think for themselves on this list. :)

 I'm sure I've missed a few questions...

Read http://perl.apache.org/guide and Writing Apache Modules with
Perl and C, ISBN 1-56592-567-X (otherwise known as the Eagle Book)
which will answer almost all the questions you can think of, and a
great many that you can't (yet).  Some of your questions have no answer.

Please don't ask questions that are answered in these publications on
this list, people here have a habit of directing you to them for
guidance.  This implies a lot of patience on your part, because they
are fairly lengthy and concentrated technical works, and not much
patience on our part (for whatever reasons :).  Despite the quip about
thinking people above, there are lots of coded solutions in these
books which you can adapt or otherwise mangle.  TMTOWTDI y'know.

73,
Ged.





RE: mod_perl.so not built after building mod_perl

2001-11-14 Thread Ged Haywood

Hi there,

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Manjrekar Pratiksha wrote:

 Could you please suggest me a apache version as well as a mod_perl version 
 compatible to it in the Solaris environment?

If you search the mod_perl mailing list I'm sure you will find many
references to Apache and mod_perl being used with Solaris.

73,
Ged.




Re: [challenge] new mod_perl site

2001-11-14 Thread Nick Tonkin


On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Stas Bekman wrote:

 Antoine Quint wrote:
 
 If you[1] don't like the way the site is now,
 don't bitch about it but change it completing the challenge.
  
   Well, I'd be up to having a crack at it... Would you be ok publishing
   the site with AxKit? Coding websites with it is so easy!
 
 Antoine, reread my original post. We are talking about suggesting a
 *design*, not how the site should be published ;)


Well, he offered to design it, using the tools he knows how to use
best. Since you are asking for people to give of their time and skills,
perhaps you should be less imperious about _how_ you want it
done. Perhaps you should be less imperious in general. Your
challenge came off to me as imperious enough that I wasn't interested in
offering to help, anyways. For God's sake, you made it seem like not only
had all the decisions been made already (by you), but that if I didn't use
the right subject line format for my contributions, I might as well not
bother!

Remember that while you have been lucky enough to get a nice paycheck for
jam_ph-ing, the folks whose expertise you are trying to solicit will be
volunteering their time and work. Be nice! Lately your postings here seem
to be preponderantly of a critical tone, more concerned with taking people
to task for not using [OT] in their subject line, or whatever, than with
providing assistance and support to those who are seeking it, as you used
to do so well.

No one doubts your commitment to mod_perl, or your hard -- and unpaid
-- work on the guide and many other things. But if you want to be a leader
who inspires people to collaborate and work as a team under your
direction, you'd do well to work on bringing your people skills up to par
with your technical skills, IMHO.

Have a nice day :)

-nick




Re: Doing Authorization using mod_perl from a programmers perspective

2001-11-14 Thread Perrin Harkins

 1. Can this be done (nicely) as a
 authentication/authorization handlier?

Sure, or you could do it as part of another phase if it's easier for you.
There are good exmples on CPAN or in the Eagle book.

 2. Do most hosting companies allow
 authentication/authorization handlers?  (Using HostRocket
 at the moment).

Most hosting companies don't allow mod_perl.

 3. What is the most appropriate session management system?
 I'm thinking of using cookies (client side) to store a
 session key, rather than resubmitting the password data.
 The server side stores this session key in the database.

That sounds fine.  There are examples of this in the book too.  Make sure
your session keys can't be forged.

 4. How does the membership ID get passed to the next stage?

It's typically stored in the session data.

 5. What is the time to do additional access checking (for
 senior/admin users)?

Impossible to answer.  Totally depends on your setup.

 6. What is a realistic time to expect all this to happen
 in?

Also impossible to answer, since it depends on your developers and the full
requirements.

- Perrin




Re: [challenge] new mod_perl site

2001-11-14 Thread william ross

At 10:44 am -0800 14/11/01, Nick Tonkin wrote:
No one doubts your commitment to mod_perl, or your hard -- and unpaid
-- work on the guide and many other things. But if you want to be a leader
who inspires people to collaborate and work as a team under your
direction, you'd do well to work on bringing your people skills up to par
with your technical skills, IMHO.


uh oh.
having just read this:
http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/SourceForge/4/125/7038861/

I'm feeling rather nervous about silly insults directed at the 
leaders of open-source projects on which my livelihood depends. 
brickbats are the price of celebrity,i suppose, but i really don't 
think this one is justified at all.

best

will

ps. i found the [challenge] quite persuasive, and the restrictions 
just a clear and sensible brief. but then i'm shallow and seek glory.



Re: Doing Authorization using mod_perl from a programmers perspective

2001-11-14 Thread Jonathan E. Paton

Hi,

  Perrin Harkins wrote:
  
  2. Do most hosting companies allow
  authentication/authorization handlers?  (Using
  HostRocket at the moment).
 
 Most hosting companies don't allow mod_perl.
 

I had fears about that one, since I thought Perl might not
mean mod_perl - as I know mod_perl is rather cosy with
Apache (that's the whole point).  With the functionality I
had in mind it'd take too long to compile them on the fly. 
Seemingly I can do Apache handlers though, so I *might* be
okay.

Looks like I may have to run it off my friends ADSL
connection, as I'm stuck in 56k hell.  That adds nice
domain redirection and uptime problems (of ADSL) to my life
;-)

  6. What is a realistic time to expect all this
  to happen in?
 
 Also impossible to answer, since it depends on your
 developers and the full requirements.

My developers? - What's a developer?  :P  The best I've got
are inexperienced amatures with relevatively little coding
experience with Perl.  Tough challenge eh?  With some
determination we'll get it finished by Christmas (not this
year :P )

I rather ambigously asked the question:  How many
milliseconds might this stage take, on a commerial hosting
company's servers.  Suppose without mod_perl this would be
at least 300ms, or probably worse.

  Ged Haywood wrote:
  I am trying to create a website [snip]
  NB - Whilst my preferred answer to these questions is a
  coded solution, [snip]
 
 We like people to think for themselves on this list. :)

Okay, I forgot the smiley on that.  I don't really expect
anyone to code it for me, that's asking too much... unless
people are willing to share what they've already done.  I'd
owe someone too many brownie points if they coded it for
me.  The Background was there for interest really, and to
suggest what I'm trying to do.

Please don't flame me, I'll go away... honest :P

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Re: Doing Authorization using mod_perl from a programmers perspective

2001-11-14 Thread Perrin Harkins

 Seemingly I can do Apache handlers though, so I *might* be
 okay.

If you look at http://perl.apache.org/guide/, there's information on how to
determine if you're really running mod_perl or not.  If you can get a
PerlHandler directive to work, you have mod_perl.

 I rather ambigously asked the question:  How many
 milliseconds might this stage take, on a commerial hosting
 company's servers.  Suppose without mod_perl this would be
 at least 300ms, or probably worse.

It depends on what you're doing in that stage.  In relative terms, programs
that access databases usually run many times faster in mod_perl than with
CGI.

- Perrin




Re: Doing Authorization using mod_perl from a programmers perspective

2001-11-14 Thread Dave Hodgkinson

Jonathan E. Paton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Please don't flame me, I'll go away... honest :P

I wonder if you're trying to do too much too soon?

If you're concerned about hosting then *gulp* PHP might server you
better.  I rent a dedicated server because I want absolute control and
the ability to run my own handler.

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RE: mod_perl.so not built after building mod_perl

2001-11-14 Thread Manjrekar Pratiksha

Hi...,
As per ur suggestion, I have installed Apache 1.3.20 and mod_perl 1.26.

It seems, the environement is OK..
whenever I am running some simple PERL scripts, it ran.
But whenever I am running my project, I got the following error in the 
apache error log file.

[Wed Nov 14 21:14:05 2001] [error] [Wed Nov 14 21:14:05 2001] null: 
Undefined subroutine Apache::ROOT::vswap1_2e1_2e5::index_2eeml::my_start 
called at /apps/vswap1.1.5/index.eml line 13.



The source code for the index.eml file is as follows :

# -*-perl-*-
#
#(C) 1998, 1999 X/Open Co Ltd.  (C) 1999, 2000 WAP Forum Ltd.  All rights 
reserved
#! /usr/local/bin/perl -w
#
use TestRuntime;

$wmlname = $TestConfig::TEST_SUITE_NAME;
$wmlname =~ m/[\s\(]/;
$wmlname = $`;


my_start(Wireless Application Protocol Application Layer Test Suite) ;
if ($mode eq html) {
#p qq(brbrcenteremfont color = red size=+4UNDERGOING 
INSTALLATION AND TESTbr/Please do not use on
4th Dec 2000/font/em/centerbrbr);
my_p(q( Welcome to The Open Group Verification Suite for WAP Clients.  This 
test suite is designed to exercise WAP
 clients and gateway servers against the requirements in the WAP 1.1 
specifications from the WAP Forum.));
 main::p(qq(pemPlease bCreate a New Account/b when first 
accessing this release of VSWAP1.1.5. To do thi
s you will need to enter the designated WAP Forum username and password. If 
not known, this can obtained from your
 WAP Forum WIG representative./em/p));
 my_p(q(From this page, you can perform the following operations:));
  my_menu;
  my_item (Manage Test Sessions, run/menu.eml);
  my_item (Review Test Results, run/review.eml);
  if ($TestConfig::SITE_USER_MANAGEMENT) {
  my_item (Create a New Account, public/agree-license.eml);
  }
  my_item (View the Release Notes, readme.html);
  my_item (View the Quick Start User Guide, guide.eml);
  p(qq(brbView the Test Specifications/bbrbr));
  my_item (View the WML 1.1 Test Specification, 
tests/wap/specs/wml11ts.html);
  my_item (View the WMLScript 1.1 Test Specification, 
tests/wap/specs/wmls11ts.html);
  my_item (View the WMLScript Standard Libraries 1.1 Test Specification, 
tests/wap/specs/wmlssl11ts.html);
  my_item (View the WAP Caching Model 1.1 Test Specification, 
tests/wap/specs/wcm11ts.html);
  my_item (View the WAE Low-level Test Specification, 
tests/wap/specs/lowlevel11ts.html);
  my_menu_end;
  p(qq(font size=-1i($TestConfig::TEST_SUITE_NAME : 
$TestConfig::TEST_SUITE_REL_DATE)/font/i));
} else {
p(qq(pWAP Test Suitebr/$wmlnamebr/ a 
href=$SR/run/menu.emlRun tests/a/p));
}
my_end_index;

what might be reason for the above problem..
Can any one suggest., it will be grateful..

Thanx in advance,

rgds,
Pratiksha



-Original Message-
From:   Wayne Pascoe [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   14 November 2001 18:24
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'Wayne Pascoe'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject:Re: mod_perl.so not built after building mod_perl

Manjrekar Pratiksha [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hi there,

Sorry to be pedantic, but could you please post your reply's to
messages under the message. It makes life a lot easier for me to read
and respond.

 As you suggested I have used apache1.3.22 version..
 However I have the following problem:
 1. While installing modperl v1.24, i got a warning message that 
apache1.3.0
 is recommended..Should I go ahead with it?(since you recommended
 apache1.3.22)

I would suggest mod_perl 1.26 as it is most current.

 2. I also tried apache v1.3.0 .During the process, I had to change my
 modperl version to 1.24_01. This again had quite some problems.

I would not use 1.3.0. There have been many bugs and security issues
resolved with Apache over time, as well as performance and feature
improvements.

 Could you please suggest me a apache version as well as a mod_perl 
version
 compatible to it in the Solaris environment?
 Thanks in advance,

I am running Solaris 8 with Apache 1.3.20 and mod_perl 1.26 without
any problems. I have not yet had time to upgrade to 1.3.22 but I'll
test later and see if this works. It should.

This is just my recommendation and is in no way a statement by the
authors and maintainers of Solaris, Apache or mod_perl.

Please excuse my spelling as ispell is still installing :)

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RE: mod_perl.so not built after building mod_perl

2001-11-14 Thread Ged Haywood

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Manjrekar Pratiksha wrote:

 [Wed Nov 14 21:14:05 2001] [error] [Wed Nov 14 21:14:05 2001] null: 
 Undefined subroutine Apache::ROOT::vswap1_2e1_2e5::index_2eeml::my_start 
 called at /apps/vswap1.1.5/index.eml line 13.
[snip]
 what might be reason for the above problem..

Probably the subroutine my_start is not defined

73,
Ged.




mod_perl make test fails

2001-11-14 Thread mod

Hi there!

I'm trying to compile apache_1.3.22+mod_perl-1.26 on a redhat 7.1 
linux box. I replace the original gcc  2.xx with gcc version 3.0.2 
and perl 5.6.0 with perl 5.6.1 both compiled in the same box.

Any help will be highly appreciated

_ Jose Albert

These are the last lines of the output of 'make test'

../apache_1.3.22/src/httpd -f `pwd`/t/conf/httpd.conf -X -d `pwd`/t 

httpd listening on port 8529
will write error_log to: t/logs/error_log
letting apache warm up...\c
done
/usr/bin/perl t/TEST 0
Can't locate object method new via package URI::URL (perhaps 
you forgot to load URI::URL?) at ../blib/lib/Apache/test.pm line 
252.
make: *** [run_tests] Error 255

* This is the error log **
[root@lancelot mod_perl-1.26]# cat t/logs/error_log  
[notice] Destruction-DESTROY called for $global_object
[Wed Nov 14 12:41:28 2001] [warn] [notice] child_init for process 
4115, report any problems to [no address given]




Re: [challenge] new mod_perl site

2001-11-14 Thread Robert Landrum

At 10:44 AM -0800 11/14/01, Nick Tonkin wrote:
No one doubts your commitment to mod_perl, or your hard -- and unpaid
-- work on the guide and many other things. But if you want to be a leader
who inspires people to collaborate and work as a team under your
direction, you'd do well to work on bringing your people skills up to par
with your technical skills, IMHO.


Ouch!  I think you misunderstood.  Stas laid out very clearly what it 
was he wanted and how to deliver it.  I could only hope for so much 
from the people I work with.

Stas is a popular guy, and I'm sure the only reason he asked for 
specific subject lines is to make submissions easier to find in the 
mass of email garbage I'm sure he receives.

Paid or Unpaid, Stas' contributions to the mod_perl world are nothing 
short of remarkable.  And with this challenge, he's giving other 
people the opportunity to prove that he isn't the only remarkable 
contributor to mod_perl.

Rob

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RE: mod_perl.so not built after building mod_perl

2001-11-14 Thread Manjrekar Pratiksha

actually all the subroutines are under TestRuntime.pm 

I have used use TestRuntime.

Is it solve this problem
or still something is there to configure..

Any suggestions..

Thanx,
Pratiksha

-Original Message-
From:   Ged Haywood [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   14 November 2001 21:36
To: Manjrekar Pratiksha
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject:RE: mod_perl.so not built after building mod_perl

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Manjrekar Pratiksha wrote:

 [Wed Nov 14 21:14:05 2001] [error] [Wed Nov 14 21:14:05 2001] null: 
 Undefined subroutine Apache::ROOT::vswap1_2e1_2e5::index_2eeml::my_start 
 called at /apps/vswap1.1.5/index.eml line 13.
[snip]
 what might be reason for the above problem..

Probably the subroutine my_start is not defined

73,
Ged.



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RE: cgi-object not cacheable

2001-11-14 Thread simran

One of the reasons you should probably not have a persistent/global CGI
object is that
upon a new the CGI module reads in numerous environment variables and
setups up its
internal structures for that particular query. If $q (in $q=new CGI) was
persistent/global
you would possibly have the wrong internal data in $q for the current
request.

-Original Message-
From: Peter Pilsl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2001 9:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: cgi-object not cacheable


One run of my script takes about 2 seconds. This includes a lot of
database-queries, calculations and so on.  about 0.3 seconds are used
just for one command: $query=new CGI;

I tried to cache the retrieved object between several requests by
storing to a persistent variable to avoid this long time, but it is
not cacheable. (in the meaning of : operations on a cached CGI-object
will just produce nothing)

This is not a problem of my persistent variables, cause this works
with many other objects like db-handles (cant use Apache::DBI cause
this keeps to many handles opened, so I need to cache and pool on my
own), filehandles etc.

any idea ?

thnx,
peter



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Re: [challenge] new mod_perl site

2001-11-14 Thread Stas Bekman

Nick Tonkin wrote:

 On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Stas Bekman wrote:
 
 
Antoine Quint wrote:

If you[1] don't like the way the site is now,
don't bitch about it but change it completing the challenge.
 
  Well, I'd be up to having a crack at it... Would you be ok publishing
  the site with AxKit? Coding websites with it is so easy!

Antoine, reread my original post. We are talking about suggesting a
*design*, not how the site should be published ;)
 
 
 Well, he offered to design it, using the tools he knows how to use
 best. Since you are asking for people to give of their time and skills,
 perhaps you should be less imperious about _how_ you want it
 done. Perhaps you should be less imperious in general. Your
 challenge came off to me as imperious enough that I wasn't interested in
 offering to help, anyways. For God's sake, you made it seem like not only
 had all the decisions been made already (by you), but that if I didn't use
 the right subject line format for my contributions, I might as well not
 bother!
 
 Remember that while you have been lucky enough to get a nice paycheck for
 jam_ph-ing, the folks whose expertise you are trying to solicit will be
 volunteering their time and work. Be nice! Lately your postings here seem
 to be preponderantly of a critical tone, more concerned with taking people
 to task for not using [OT] in their subject line, or whatever, than with
 providing assistance and support to those who are seeking it, as you used
 to do so well.
 
 No one doubts your commitment to mod_perl, or your hard -- and unpaid
 -- work on the guide and many other things. But if you want to be a leader
 who inspires people to collaborate and work as a team under your
 direction, you'd do well to work on bringing your people skills up to par
 with your technical skills, IMHO.

Instead of starting to critisize without figuring out the reasoning for 
things being the way they are you could better nicely ask why I've 
imposed the rules and restrictions. So let's say that you didn't post 
this negative reply but in fact asked me why? Here are my answers:

- *I* made the decisions because nobody cares to do anything about the 
site (other than Nat who actually did ;). Everybody cares to send 
helpful comments, but no real help.

- *I* have spent the last 3-4 weeks writing the code that will generate 
the site and documentation and revamping the site, instead of doing a 
much more challenging mod_perl 2.0 coding.

- *I*'m thinking about how to make the site and documentation easily 
manageable because currently no one else has suggested to help me out 
and I've no choice but to decide which templates to use and how to build 
the site.

- You are talking about *me* soliciting other people's time? If I was a 
designer I won't ask for it, but I'm not. The whole thing is based on 
volunteering and many people are willing to help but don't know how. I 
don't understand what's wrong with helping folks to figure out how to help.

Once people join my efforts this *I* will gladly become *we*. I'm 
looking forward to it.

You are talking about me being less active at the users list? That's 
true, but remember this is a volunteer effort. My effort just goes into 
new things. Have you seen all the documentation I'm working on for 
mod_perl 2.0? When 2.0 comes out when *you* will not have to ask
questions, the answers will be in TFM already.

As for less questions getting answered on the list, why don't *you* step 
forward and help Perrin and other folks who are doing a great job?

The open source movement goes like this: learn, code, share, learn, 
code, share. I'm in the learn and code mod_perl 2.0 stages now, so I can 
share when the time comes.

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Re: [challenge] new mod_perl site

2001-11-14 Thread Adi Fairbank

Nick Tonkin wrote:
 
 No one doubts your commitment to mod_perl, or your hard -- and unpaid
 -- work on the guide and many other things. But if you want to be a leader
 who inspires people to collaborate and work as a team under your
 direction, you'd do well to work on bringing your people skills up to par
 with your technical skills, IMHO.
 
 Have a nice day :)
 
 -nick

Personally, I think Stas is a doing a fine job as a leader.  Even if he is
getting paid now, I'm sure he is still *under* paid for what he's doing. 
Most of us don't even notice all the things he is doing behind the scenes. 
Remember he is juggling many tasks now, whereas most of us only contribute a
single piece of the puzzle.

With a single polite e-mail he inspired me to bring the ApacheBench module
up-to-date, which had gotten way out of date (from the newest ab) due to my
laziness.  BTW Stas, the next update with Keep-Alives is almost ready.  Next
will be authentication and proxy support, then SSL support.

my 2c. -Adi
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Re: how to install the XML::LibXSLT along with libxslt?

2001-11-14 Thread clayton cottingham

here is a list of install procedures ive used for getting these all
going


http://drfrog.fdns.net/x3d/howto.html



cvs commit: modperl-2.0/src/modules/perl mod_perl.c

2001-11-14 Thread dougm

dougm   01/11/14 17:30:46

  Modified:src/modules/perl mod_perl.c
  Log:
  save globals before populating %ENV vars
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.94  +2 -2  modperl-2.0/src/modules/perl/mod_perl.c
  
  Index: mod_perl.c
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/modperl-2.0/src/modules/perl/mod_perl.c,v
  retrieving revision 1.93
  retrieving revision 1.94
  diff -u -r1.93 -r1.94
  --- mod_perl.c2001/11/01 23:50:32 1.93
  +++ mod_perl.c2001/11/15 01:30:45 1.94
  @@ -524,6 +524,8 @@
   }
   #endif
   
  +modperl_perl_global_request_save(aTHX_ r);
  +
   /* default is +SetupEnv, skip if PerlOption -SetupEnv */
   if (MpDirSETUP_ENV(dcfg) || !MpDirSeenSETUP_ENV(dcfg)) {
   modperl_env_request_populate(aTHX_ r);
  @@ -532,8 +534,6 @@
   if (MpDirPARSE_HEADERS(dcfg)) {
   rcfg-wbucket.header_parse = 1;
   }
  -
  -modperl_perl_global_request_save(aTHX_ r);
   
   h_stdout = modperl_io_tie_stdout(aTHX_ r);
   h_stdin  = modperl_io_tie_stdin(aTHX_ r);
  
  
  



cvs commit: modperl-2.0/t/modperl .cvsignore

2001-11-14 Thread dougm

dougm   01/11/14 19:02:43

  Modified:src/modules/perl mod_perl.c modperl_env.c modperl_env.h
   t/conf   modperl_extra.pl
   t/modperl .cvsignore
  Log:
  more complete implementation of tie %ENV to r-subprocess_env
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.95  +2 -7  modperl-2.0/src/modules/perl/mod_perl.c
  
  Index: mod_perl.c
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/modperl-2.0/src/modules/perl/mod_perl.c,v
  retrieving revision 1.94
  retrieving revision 1.95
  diff -u -r1.94 -r1.95
  --- mod_perl.c2001/11/15 01:30:45 1.94
  +++ mod_perl.c2001/11/15 03:02:42 1.95
  @@ -147,6 +147,8 @@
   return;
   }
   
  +modperl_env_init();
  +
   base_perl = modperl_startup(base_server, p);
   
   #ifdef USE_ITHREADS
  @@ -538,21 +540,14 @@
   h_stdout = modperl_io_tie_stdout(aTHX_ r);
   h_stdin  = modperl_io_tie_stdin(aTHX_ r);
   
  -#if 0
  -/* current implementation of tie %ENV to $r-subprocess_env 
  - * is not threadsafe
  - */
   modperl_env_request_tie(aTHX_ r);
  -#endif
   
   retval = modperl_response_handler_run(r, FALSE);
   
   modperl_io_handle_untie(aTHX_ h_stdout);
   modperl_io_handle_untie(aTHX_ h_stdin);
   
  -#if 0
   modperl_env_request_untie(aTHX_ r);
  -#endif
   
   modperl_perl_global_request_restore(aTHX_ r);
   
  
  
  
  1.19  +150 -41   modperl-2.0/src/modules/perl/modperl_env.c
  
  Index: modperl_env.c
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/modperl-2.0/src/modules/perl/modperl_env.c,v
  retrieving revision 1.18
  retrieving revision 1.19
  diff -u -r1.18 -r1.19
  --- modperl_env.c 2001/11/12 22:14:36 1.18
  +++ modperl_env.c 2001/11/15 03:02:43 1.19
  @@ -1,6 +1,7 @@
   #include mod_perl.h
   
   #define EnvMgObj SvMAGIC((SV*)ENVHV)-mg_ptr
  +#define EnvMgLen SvMAGIC((SV*)ENVHV)-mg_len
   
   static MP_INLINE
   void modperl_env_hv_store(pTHX_ HV *hv, apr_table_entry_t *elt)
  @@ -87,7 +88,6 @@
   const apr_array_header_t *array;
   apr_table_entry_t *elts;
   
  -
   if (MpReqSETUP_ENV(rcfg)) {
   return;
   }
  @@ -118,69 +118,178 @@
   MpReqSETUP_ENV_On(rcfg);
   }
   
  -static int modperl_env_request_set(pTHX_ SV *sv, MAGIC *mg)
  +void modperl_env_request_tie(pTHX_ request_rec *r)
   {
  -const char *key, *val;
  -STRLEN klen, vlen;
  -request_rec *r = (request_rec *)EnvMgObj;
  +EnvMgObj = (char *)r;
  +EnvMgLen = -1;
  +
  +#ifdef MP_PERL_HV_GMAGICAL_AWARE
  +SvGMAGICAL_on((SV*)ENVHV);
  +#endif
  +}
  +
  +void modperl_env_request_untie(pTHX_ request_rec *r)
  +{
  +EnvMgObj = NULL;
  +
  +#ifdef MP_PERL_HV_GMAGICAL_AWARE
  +SvGMAGICAL_off((SV*)ENVHV);
  +#endif
  +}
  +
  +/* to store the original virtual tables
  + * these are global, not per-interpreter
  + */
  +static MGVTBL MP_PERL_vtbl_env;
  +static MGVTBL MP_PERL_vtbl_envelem;
   
  -key = (const char *)MgPV(mg,klen);
  -val = (const char *)SvPV(sv,vlen);
  +#define MP_PL_vtbl_call(name, meth) \
  +MP_PERL_vtbl_##name.svt_##meth(aTHX_ sv, mg)
   
  -apr_table_set(r-subprocess_env, key, val);
  +#define MP_dENV_KEY \
  +STRLEN klen; \
  +const char *key = (const char *)MgPV(mg,klen)
  +
  +#define MP_dENV_VAL \
  +STRLEN vlen; \
  +const char *val = (const char *)SvPV(sv,vlen)
   
  -/*return magic_setenv(sv, mg);*/
  +/*
  + * XXX: what we do here might change:
  + *  - make it optional for %ENV to be tied to r-subprocess_env
  + *  - make it possible to modify environ
  + *  - we could allow modification of environ if mpm isn't threaded
  + *  - we could allow modification of environ if variable isn't a CGI
  + *variable (still could cause problems)
  + */
  +/*
  + * problems we are trying to solve:
  + *  - environ is shared between threads
  + *  + Perl does not serialize access to environ
  + *  + even if it did, CGI variables cannot be shared between threads!
  + * problems we create by trying to solve above problems:
  + *  - a forked process will not inherit the current %ENV
  + *  - C libraries might rely on environ, e.g. DBD::Oracle
  + */
  +static int modperl_env_magic_set_all(pTHX_ SV *sv, MAGIC *mg)
  +{
  +request_rec *r = (request_rec *)EnvMgObj;
   
  +if (r) {
  +if (PL_localizing) {
  +/* local %ENV = (FOO = 'bar', BIZ = 'baz') */
  +HE *entry;
  +STRLEN n_a;
  +
  +hv_iterinit((HV*)sv);
  +while ((entry = hv_iternext((HV*)sv))) {
  +I32 keylen;
  +apr_table_set(r-subprocess_env,
  +  hv_iterkey(entry, keylen),
  +  SvPV(hv_iterval((HV*)sv, entry), n_a));
  +}
  +}
  +}
  +else {
  +return 

cvs commit: modperl-2.0/t/response/TestModperl env.pm

2001-11-14 Thread dougm

dougm   01/11/14 19:03:22

  Added:   t/response/TestModperl env.pm
  Log:
  add test for tie of %ENV to r-subprocess_env
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.1  modperl-2.0/t/response/TestModperl/env.pm
  
  Index: env.pm
  ===
  package TestModperl::env;
  
  use strict;
  use warnings FATAL = 'all';
  
  use Apache::Test;
  use Apache::Const -compile = 'OK';
  
  sub handler {
  my $r = shift;
  
  plan $r, tests = 20;
  
  my $env = $r-subprocess_env;
  
  ok $ENV{MODPERL_EXTRA_PL}; #set in t/conf/modperl_extra.pl
  ok $ENV{MOD_PERL};
  
  $ENV{FOO} = 2;
  ok $ENV{FOO} == 2;
  ok $env-get('FOO') == 2;
  
  $ENV{FOO}++;
  ok $ENV{FOO} == 3;
  ok $env-get('FOO') == 3;
  
  $ENV{FOO} .= 6;
  ok $ENV{FOO} == 36;
  ok $env-get('FOO') == 36;
  
  delete $ENV{FOO};
  ok ! $ENV{FOO};
  ok ! $env-get('FOO');
  
  ok $ENV{SERVER_SOFTWARE};
  ok $env-get('SERVER_SOFTWARE');
  
  {
  local %ENV = (FOO = 1, BAR = 2);
  
  ok $ENV{FOO} == 1;
  ok $env-get('FOO') == 1;
  
  ok ! $ENV{SERVER_SOFTWARE};
  ok ! $env-get('SERVER_SOFTWARE');
  }
  
  ok ! $ENV{FOO};
  #ok ! $env-get('FOO');
  #XXX: keys in the original subprocess_env are restored
  # but new ones added to the local %ENV are not removed
  # after the local %ENV goes out of scope
  #skip r-subprocess_env + local() doesnt fully work yet, 1;
  ok 1; #the skip() message is just annoying
  
  ok $ENV{SERVER_SOFTWARE};
  ok $env-get('SERVER_SOFTWARE');
  
  Apache::OK;
  }
  
  1;
  __END__
  SetHandler perl-script
  
  
  



Re: [challenge] new mod_perl site

2001-11-14 Thread Thomas Klausner

Hi!

On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 01:31:52AM +0800, Stas Bekman wrote:
 Obviously the site should be very light on graphics, but since you are
 a good web designer you know this and all the other requirements
 already. The only requirement we have is that this is an information
 site, so avoid fancy graphics and god forbid flash splashes :)

What about an additional requirement:

The site should be validated sucessfully by validator.w3.org

(The current design doesn't, BTW)

I know that it is hard to get a page validated there, but IMO there should
be more clean/standard-compatible websites. I guess you all know the
reasons for this, so I won't repeat them here.  

Anyway, I think I will give it a try ...

-- 
D_OMM
O_xyderkes
M_echanenhttp://domm.zsi.at
M_asteuei



Re: [challenge] new mod_perl site

2001-11-14 Thread tom poe

On Tuesday 13 November 2001 11:57, Thomas Klausner wrote:
 Hi!

 On Wed, Nov 14, 2001 at 01:31:52AM +0800, Stas Bekman wrote:
  Obviously the site should be very light on graphics, but since you are
  a good web designer you know this and all the other requirements
  already. The only requirement we have is that this is an information
  site, so avoid fancy graphics and god forbid flash splashes :)

- - - snip - - -

 Anyway, I think I will give it a try ...

Hi:  Well, take your time.  As soon as I find out from the SuSE list what the 
path is to Apache on 7.1 to use, I'm goona try out the 
http://perl.apache.org/embperl/IntroEmbperlObject.pod.2.html

Say, there's no deadline on this thing, is there?
grin
Tom



Re: [challenge] new mod_perl site

2001-11-14 Thread Perrin Harkins

 What about an additional requirement:

 The site should be validated sucessfully by validator.w3.org

Maybe we should give the horse a chance to catch up to the cart...

Once there is a design that people are satisfied with, you are more than
welcome to submit patches to fix validation problems.

- Perrin