Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced
Thank you, Neil It is clear from your statement that my allegations will need to be proved as you have publicly stated you suspect my credibility and sanity. Regarding the Goliath's impeccable reputation and behavior -- here, I'm referring to Heritage --I suggest you look up Mongolian Tyrannosaurus bataar and Heritage Auctions. Despite widespread scientific protest and Texas judge issuing a restraining order against the May 2012 auction, Heritage sold the fossil claiming it had established provenance and had a right to the sale. Three days ago, on Thurs., June 21, a federal judge signed a warrant for Homeland Security to seize the fossil because it was stolen from Mongolia. Right, stolen goods. Even with the combined weight of the scientific community (paleontologists) and Mongolian government protesting against the auction, the fossil was sold by Heritage for $1,052,000... From: Neil Jaworski neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk To: Geraldine Kudaka gkud...@rocketmail.com; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced No, Geraldine, really don't say any more. You have completely taken over this forum with your repeated, wearying, unsubstantiated claims. I suspect any sympathy for you has long since evaporated. Mine certainly has. If your claims have any basis in fact, it's for the law to decide. I know that you're hoping to leave a series of allegations in a public forum that future possible customers of Heritage will come across. However, because you've gone on and on ad nauseum and alienated so many MOPOers, there are almost as many negative public comments about your own motives, reliability and character. I won't comment publicly myself on how sane or otherwise I think you are (have a wild stab in the dark), but I suspect that your credibility is what the casual reader of the forum will consider and weigh when reading this thread, more so than Heritage's business practices. Sometimes in life it's better to just say your piece and then shut up. Neil From: Geraldine Kudaka gkud...@rocketmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, 22 June 2012, 17:25 Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Gee, Grey, the Alien teaser 2 fillmore/avalon posters were part of that batch we sent. Need I say more? From: Smith, Grey - 1367 gre...@ha.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Helmut, Funny you would mention that poster! http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161226lotNo=53008 This poster, from the film’s original release, is the only item that does seem to get better money. I have sold it in the past for over $2000. Makes the one running now seem like a bargain! I have also sold the Alien book for close to $2000. From:MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:12 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Jeffrey, I have yet to see any Alien paper to bring even $500 or more. as long as it's original and in good condition, I'd be happy to pay $500 for an advance onesheet on ALIEN. Cheers, Helmut http://www.filmposter.net Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely
Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced
ebay -- 290731119615 I know the ebay gallery photos are small. Sorry i don't have any other photos uploaded on photobucket for a better link. From: Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Alan Adler m...@charter.net wrote: Anyone have a link to pix of this Alien Glory Book? - Like to see for myself what the heck it looks like. Alan A On Jun 22, 2012, at 6:17 AM, Geraldine Kudaka wrote: These are not off-set printed booklets. These are made of individual photographs printed by Stanley Bielecki's photo lab using Bob Penn's negatives. Stanley Bielecki printed them in his darkroom using Kodak photographic stock paper... they were then bound using one of the folio spiral bindings you could get at office supplies. If you look at the Alien text page -- the one with white lettering on a black box -- you'll see the copyright was added as an after thought with a typed file folder label. It's easy to think the images are on paper, but they're not. Stanley Bielecki was also the same photographer who hand printed the photos that were folio bound into the Star Wars cast and crew wrap gifts -- the Glory Book. Please look up the history of Star Wars Glory books. This item is a known collectors item and can be found online at other places than mrsminiver's ebay listing, 390426055170 Lucasfilm and Gus Lopez on swca.com used to have it up, as well as some movie prop collectors sites, but I can't find it right now in a 2 minute search. I'm sure you can find proof of its existence by searching the web. As the Star Wars Glory Book is known among collectors -- one MOPO dealer even contacted us to buy ours after we started posting about our Heritage problem -- and its provable, limited production is not simply a statement I am making to increase it's rarity, it is Star Wars history. You are talking about the manufactured booklets that were offset printed for distribution. Not the same beast. The way to tell is to look at the paper stock and Alien copyright -- was it a file folder label pasted on as an afterthought? Believe me, by the time they get around to sending stuff to theater distributors, the copyright is not an afterthought. If you want the promo theater booklet for Star Wars, we have SEALED, unopened boxes of the theater folio, which still have intact the embossed Star Wars logo ribbon. These are SEALED, unopened boxes... To get an idea of the off-set Star Wars booklet, you can go here: http://www.mycomicshop.com/search?TID=11327001 They were originally sent in a white mailer-type of box with a ribbon closure. The folios, without their boxes, are very common. The folios with open boxes sometimes come up on ebay. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86409487/cam1.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86409487/Cam9.JPG The sealed, unopened boxes are rarer... How many people receive a box and don't open it? You can also ask Rudy Franchi about Charley's marketing of Star Wars. Charley's marketing of Star Wars, especially the advance merchandising and licensing, changed the way movies are marketed. There were a few films released before Star Wars with advance merchandising and licensing, such as Paramount's The Great Gatsby and 20th Century's Doctor Doolittle but for box office results -- but it was Star Wars' Kenner line which changed movie marketing. From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced I have similar ring binder books for Willow and for Chariots of Fire. I may even have more than one each and I may even have others it's obvious that some are just photographic prints, while others look like they were printed editions At 10:59 AM 6/21/2012, Freeman Fisher wrote: Geraldine, Your description of this ALIEN booklet is not accurate. These booklets were sent out to exhibitor owners and execs. Back in the 1970's there still existed numerous blind bid states. I worked in Texas and it was the most extreme example given the sizes of Houston, Dallas, Fort Worth, San Antonio and Austin and the money those markets represented Blind bidding was when a theatre chain had to commit to a film, sometimes a year in advance, with terms outlined (1st two weeks at 70% 2nd two weeks at 60% etc.) and frequently putting up at times tens of thousands if not all together 100's of thousands of dollars on the blockbusters WITHOUT EVER SEEING A SCRAP OF FILM. So these booklets were sent out prior to bidding and came in all kinds of formats.some just a couple of fold out pages to nice
Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced
Great photo... From: Jay Pea spitfire3...@yahoo.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced And the man inside: --- On Fri, 6/22/12, John Waldman jhnwald...@yahoo.com wrote: From: John Waldman jhnwald...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Friday, June 22, 2012, 1:12 PM This is great. JW From: Jay Pea spitfire3...@yahoo.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Speaking of Alien. Here is the creation of the creature. A work in progress. --- On Fri, 6/22/12, Geraldine Kudaka gkud...@rocketmail.com wrote: From: Geraldine Kudaka gkud...@rocketmail.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Friday, June 22, 2012, 6:17 AM These are not off-set printed booklets. These are made of individual photographs printed by Stanley Bielecki's photo lab using Bob Penn's negatives. Stanley Bielecki printed them in his darkroom using Kodak photographic stock paper... they were then bound using one of the folio spiral bindings you could get at office supplies. If you look at the Alien text page -- the one with white lettering on a black box -- you'll see the copyright was added as an after thought with a typed file folder label. It's easy to think the images are on paper, but they're not. Stanley Bielecki was also the same photographer who hand printed the photos that were folio bound into the Star Wars cast and crew wrap gifts -- the Glory Book. Please look up the history of Star Wars Glory books. This item is a known collectors item and can be found online at other places than mrsminiver's ebay listing, 390426055170 Lucasfilm and Gus Lopez on swca.com used to have it up, as well as some movie prop collectors sites, but I can't find it right now in a 2 minute search. I'm sure you can find proof of its existence by searching the web. As the Star Wars Glory Book is known among collectors -- one MOPO dealer even contacted us to buy ours after we started posting about our Heritage problem -- and its provable, limited production is not simply a statement I am making to increase it's rarity, it is Star Wars history. You are talking about the manufactured booklets that were offset printed for distribution. Not the same beast. The way to tell is to look at the paper stock and Alien copyright -- was it a file folder label pasted on as an afterthought? Believe me, by the time they get around to sending stuff to theater distributors, the copyright is not an afterthought. If you want the promo theater booklet for Star Wars, we have SEALED, unopened boxes of the theater folio, which still have intact the embossed Star Wars logo ribbon. These are SEALED, unopened boxes... To get an idea of the off-set Star Wars booklet, you can go here: http://www.mycomicshop.com/search?TID=11327001 They were originally sent in a white mailer-type of box with a ribbon closure. The folios, without their boxes, are very common. The folios with open boxes sometimes come up on ebay. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86409487/cam1.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86409487/Cam9.JPG The sealed, unopened boxes are rarer... How many people receive a box and don't open it? You can also ask Rudy Franchi about Charley's marketing of Star Wars. Charley's marketing of Star Wars, especially the advance merchandising and licensing, changed the way movies are marketed. There were a few films released before Star Wars with advance merchandising and licensing, such as Paramount's The Great Gatsby and 20th Century's Doctor Doolittle but for box office results -- but it was Star Wars' Kenner line which changed movie marketing. From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced I have similar ring binder books for Willow and for Chariots of Fire. I may even have more than one each and I may even have others it's obvious that some are just photographic prints, while others look like they were printed editions At 10:59 AM 6/21/2012, Freeman Fisher wrote: Geraldine, Your description of this ALIEN booklet is not accurate. These booklets were sent out to exhibitor owners and execs. Back in the 1970's there still existed numerous blind bid states. I worked in Texas and it was the most extreme example given the sizes of Houston, Dallas, Fort Worth, San Antonio and Austin and the money those markets represented Blind bidding was when a theatre chain had to commit to a film, sometimes a year in advance, with terms outlined (1st two weeks at 70% 2nd two weeks
Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced
These are not off-set printed booklets. These are made of individual photographs printed by Stanley Bielecki's photo lab using Bob Penn's negatives. Stanley Bielecki printed them in his darkroom using Kodak photographic stock paper... they were then bound using one of the folio spiral bindings you could get at office supplies. If you look at the Alien text page -- the one with white lettering on a black box -- you'll see the copyright was added as an after thought with a typed file folder label. It's easy to think the images are on paper, but they're not. Stanley Bielecki was also the same photographer who hand printed the photos that were folio bound into the Star Wars cast and crew wrap gifts -- the Glory Book. Please look up the history of Star Wars Glory books. This item is a known collectors item and can be found online at other places than mrsminiver's ebay listing, 390426055170 Lucasfilm and Gus Lopez on swca.com used to have it up, as well as some movie prop collectors sites, but I can't find it right now in a 2 minute search. I'm sure you can find proof of its existence by searching the web. As the Star Wars Glory Book is known among collectors -- one MOPO dealer even contacted us to buy ours after we started posting about our Heritage problem -- and its provable, limited production is not simply a statement I am making to increase it's rarity, it is Star Wars history. You are talking about the manufactured booklets that were offset printed for distribution. Not the same beast. The way to tell is to look at the paper stock and Alien copyright -- was it a file folder label pasted on as an afterthought? Believe me, by the time they get around to sending stuff to theater distributors, the copyright is not an afterthought. If you want the promo theater booklet for Star Wars, we have SEALED, unopened boxes of the theater folio, which still have intact the embossed Star Wars logo ribbon. These are SEALED, unopened boxes... To get an idea of the off-set Star Wars booklet, you can go here: http://www.mycomicshop.com/search?TID=11327001 They were originally sent in a white mailer-type of box with a ribbon closure. The folios, without their boxes, are very common. The folios with open boxes sometimes come up on ebay. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86409487/cam1.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86409487/Cam9.JPG The sealed, unopened boxes are rarer... How many people receive a box and don't open it? You can also ask Rudy Franchi about Charley's marketing of Star Wars. Charley's marketing of Star Wars, especially the advance merchandising and licensing, changed the way movies are marketed. There were a few films released before Star Wars with advance merchandising and licensing, such as Paramount's The Great Gatsby and 20th Century's Doctor Doolittle but for box office results -- but it was Star Wars' Kenner line which changed movie marketing. From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced I have similar ring binder books for Willow and for Chariots of Fire. I may even have more than one each and I may even have others it's obvious that some are just photographic prints, while others look like they were printed editions At 10:59 AM 6/21/2012, Freeman Fisher wrote: Geraldine, Your description of this ALIEN booklet is not accurate. These booklets were sent out to exhibitor owners and execs. Back in the 1970's there still existed numerous blind bid states. I worked in Texas and it was the most extreme example given the sizes of Houston, Dallas, Fort Worth, San Antonio and Austin and the money those markets represented Blind bidding was when a theatre chain had to commit to a film, sometimes a year in advance, with terms outlined (1st two weeks at 70% 2nd two weeks at 60% etc.) and frequently putting up at times tens of thousands if not all together 100's of thousands of dollars on the blockbusters WITHOUT EVER SEEING A SCRAP OF FILM. So these booklets were sent out prior to bidding and came in all kinds of formats.some just a couple of fold out pages to nice booklets with on set photography. If my memory isn't completely failing, I recall booklets on STAR WARS, ALIEN, BLADE RUNNER, APOCALYPSE NOW, WILLOW, OUTLAND, EXCALIBUR and a few others that were really impressive. Others like ET (at the time called A BOY'S LIFE) were just gate folded brochures (no picture of ET for sure that was such a huge secret). Same with RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK, CLASH OF THE TITANS, etc. etc. And then some were just a single printed sheet saying who starred, produced and directed. (Can you imagine buying a car with a tarp over it and being given just a description and some art, commit to it, and not expect delivery for 9 to 12
Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced
I tried nicely to explain to you nicely about the impressive bid brochures I received in the 70's including exactly the ALIEN book you are selling and also sited other examples including OUTLAND, EXCALIBUR and others, printed on photographic paper then spiral bound and sent to others outside the studio in the industry. I am not going to get in a pissing match with you because you're tiresome. If you look at my original post I tried to explain that some were photographic, others offset/printed depending on the needs. Indeed they are still scarce but to claim less than 30 printed is preposterous. If you knew how many execs were at Fox (that doesn't even include producers, licensing etc.) at the time you would know even that amount doesn't hold water. Also we received these books well before a single poster was printed or trailer created..literally in some cases a year in advance as was the case here. But good look on your endeavors and pricing. freeman On Jun 22, 2012, at 6:17 AM, Geraldine Kudaka wrote: These are not off-set printed booklets. These are made of individual photographs printed by Stanley Bielecki's photo lab using Bob Penn's negatives. Stanley Bielecki printed them in his darkroom using Kodak photographic stock paper... they were then bound using one of the folio spiral bindings you could get at office supplies. If you look at the Alien text page -- the one with white lettering on a black box -- you'll see the copyright was added as an after thought with a typed file folder label. It's easy to think the images are on paper, but they're not. Stanley Bielecki was also the same photographer who hand printed the photos that were folio bound into the Star Wars cast and crew wrap gifts -- the Glory Book. Please look up the history of Star Wars Glory books. This item is a known collectors item and can be found online at other places than mrsminiver's ebay listing, 390426055170 Lucasfilm and Gus Lopez on swca.com used to have it up, as well as some movie prop collectors sites, but I can't find it right now in a 2 minute search. I'm sure you can find proof of its existence by searching the web. As the Star Wars Glory Book is known among collectors -- one MOPO dealer even contacted us to buy ours after we started posting about our Heritage problem -- and its provable, limited production is not simply a statement I am making to increase it's rarity, it is Star Wars history. You are talking about the manufactured booklets that were offset printed for distribution. Not the same beast. The way to tell is to look at the paper stock and Alien copyright -- was it a file folder label pasted on as an afterthought? Believe me, by the time they get around to sending stuff to theater distributors, the copyright is not an afterthought. If you want the promo theater booklet for Star Wars, we have SEALED, unopened boxes of the theater folio, which still have intact the embossed Star Wars logo ribbon. These are SEALED, unopened boxes... To get an idea of the off-set Star Wars booklet, you can go here: http://www.mycomicshop.com/search?TID=11327001 They were originally sent in a white mailer-type of box with a ribbon closure. The folios, without their boxes, are very common. The folios with open boxes sometimes come up on ebay. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86409487/cam1.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86409487/Cam9.JPG The sealed, unopened boxes are rarer... How many people receive a box and don't open it? You can also ask Rudy Franchi about Charley's marketing of Star Wars. Charley's marketing of Star Wars, especially the advance merchandising and licensing, changed the way movies are marketed. There were a few films released before Star Wars with advance merchandising and licensing, such as Paramount's The Great Gatsby and 20th Century's Doctor Doolittle but for box office results -- but it was Star Wars' Kenner line which changed movie marketing. From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced I have similar ring binder books for Willow and for Chariots of Fire. I may even have more than one each and I may even have others it's obvious that some are just photographic prints, while others look like they were printed editions At 10:59 AM 6/21/2012, Freeman Fisher wrote: Geraldine, Your description of this ALIEN booklet is not accurate. These booklets were sent out to exhibitor owners and execs. Back in the 1970's there still existed numerous blind bid states. I worked in Texas and it was the most extreme example given the sizes of Houston, Dallas, Fort Worth, San Antonio and Austin and the money those markets represented Blind bidding was when a theatre chain had to commit
Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced
I say let the market speak for itselfstart the book off low...if it is truly a unique piece you will usually get near what the market can bear. Aside from props on the Alien movie I don't see a ton of value in the paper. It was a good movie but nowhere as influential as Star Wars, which this movie probably would have not been made without it. Star Wars has some movie paper that can bring a few thousand dollars...the birthday cake, the mylars, etc...but I have yet to see any Alien paper to bring even $500 or more. Plus when you say less than 30..means there is still a supply (29 is still a lot) out there so the price doesn't justify the demand for a few photos. -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Freeman Fisher Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:51 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced I tried nicely to explain to you nicely about the impressive bid brochures I received in the 70's including exactly the ALIEN book you are selling and also sited other examples including OUTLAND, EXCALIBUR and others, printed on photographic paper then spiral bound and sent to others outside the studio in the industry. I am not going to get in a pissing match with you because you're tiresome. If you look at my original post I tried to explain that some were photographic, others offset/printed depending on the needs. Indeed they are still scarce but to claim less than 30 printed is preposterous. If you knew how many execs were at Fox (that doesn't even include producers, licensing etc.) at the time you would know even that amount doesn't hold water. Also we received these books well before a single poster was printed or trailer created..literally in some cases a year in advance as was the case here. But good look on your endeavors and pricing. freeman On Jun 22, 2012, at 6:17 AM, Geraldine Kudaka wrote: These are not off-set printed booklets. These are made of individual photographs printed by Stanley Bielecki's photo lab using Bob Penn's negatives. Stanley Bielecki printed them in his darkroom using Kodak photographic stock paper... they were then bound using one of the folio spiral bindings you could get at office supplies. If you look at the Alien text page -- the one with white lettering on a black box -- you'll see the copyright was added as an after thought with a typed file folder label. It's easy to think the images are on paper, but they're not. Stanley Bielecki was also the same photographer who hand printed the photos that were folio bound into the Star Wars cast and crew wrap gifts -- the Glory Book. Please look up the history of Star Wars Glory books. This item is a known collectors item and can be found online at other places than mrsminiver's ebay listing, 390426055170 Lucasfilm and Gus Lopez on swca.com used to have it up, as well as some movie prop collectors sites, but I can't find it right now in a 2 minute search. I'm sure you can find proof of its existence by searching the web. As the Star Wars Glory Book is known among collectors -- one MOPO dealer even contacted us to buy ours after we started posting about our Heritage problem -- and its provable, limited production is not simply a statement I am making to increase it's rarity, it is Star Wars history. You are talking about the manufactured booklets that were offset printed for distribution. Not the same beast. The way to tell is to look at the paper stock and Alien copyright -- was it a file folder label pasted on as an afterthought? Believe me, by the time they get around to sending stuff to theater distributors, the copyright is not an afterthought. If you want the promo theater booklet for Star Wars, we have SEALED, unopened boxes of the theater folio, which still have intact the embossed Star Wars logo ribbon. These are SEALED, unopened boxes... To get an idea of the off-set Star Wars booklet, you can go here: http://www.mycomicshop.com/search?TID=11327001 They were originally sent in a white mailer-type of box with a ribbon closure. The folios, without their boxes, are very common. The folios with open boxes sometimes come up on ebay. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86409487/cam1.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86409487/Cam9.JPG The sealed, unopened boxes are rarer... How many people receive a box and don't open it? You can also ask Rudy Franchi about Charley's marketing of Star Wars. Charley's marketing of Star Wars, especially the advance merchandising and licensing, changed the way movies are marketed. There were a few films released before Star Wars with advance merchandising and licensing, such as Paramount's The Great Gatsby and 20th Century's Doctor Doolittle but for box office results -- but it was Star Wars' Kenner line which changed movie marketing. From
Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced
From my own experience with rare, non-movie poster items on eBay, I'd be willing to bet if the bidding starts at 99 cents or $9.99, this rarest of rare Alien books will sell for a hundred bucks or less... In a message dated 6/22/2012 7:41:24 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jeffrey.wal...@fisglobal.com writes: I say let the market speak for itselfstart the book off low...if it is truly a unique piece you will usually get near what the market can bear. Aside from props on the Alien movie I don't see a ton of value in the paper. It was a good movie but nowhere as influential as Star Wars, which this movie probably would have not been made without it. Star Wars has some movie paper that can bring a few thousand dollars...the birthday cake, the mylars, etc...but I have yet to see any Alien paper to bring even $500 or more. Plus when you say less than 30..means there is still a supply (29 is still a lot) out there so the price doesn't justify the demand for a few photos. -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Freeman Fisher Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:51 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced I tried nicely to explain to you nicely about the impressive bid brochures I received in the 70's including exactly the ALIEN book you are selling and also sited other examples including OUTLAND, EXCALIBUR and others, printed on photographic paper then spiral bound and sent to others outside the studio in the industry. I am not going to get in a pissing match with you because you're tiresome. If you look at my original post I tried to explain that some were photographic, others offset/printed depending on the needs. Indeed they are still scarce but to claim less than 30 printed is preposterous. If you knew how many execs were at Fox (that doesn't even include producers, licensing etc.) at the time you would know even that amount doesn't hold water. Also we received these books well before a single poster was printed or trailer created..literally in some cases a year in advance as was the case here. But good look on your endeavors and pricing. freeman On Jun 22, 2012, at 6:17 AM, Geraldine Kudaka wrote: These are not off-set printed booklets. These are made of individual photographs printed by Stanley Bielecki's photo lab using Bob Penn's negatives. Stanley Bielecki printed them in his darkroom using Kodak photographic stock paper... they were then bound using one of the folio spiral bindings you could get at office supplies. If you look at the Alien text page -- the one with white lettering on a black box -- you'll see the copyright was added as an after thought with a typed file folder label. It's easy to think the images are on paper, but they're not. Stanley Bielecki was also the same photographer who hand printed the photos that were folio bound into the Star Wars cast and crew wrap gifts -- the Glory Book. Please look up the history of Star Wars Glory books. This item is a known collectors item and can be found online at other places than mrsminiver's ebay listing, 390426055170 Lucasfilm and Gus Lopez on swca.com used to have it up, as well as some movie prop collectors sites, but I can't find it right now in a 2 minute search. I'm sure you can find proof of its existence by searching the web. As the Star Wars Glory Book is known among collectors -- one MOPO dealer even contacted us to buy ours after we started posting about our Heritage problem -- and its provable, limited production is not simply a statement I am making to increase it's rarity, it is Star Wars history. You are talking about the manufactured booklets that were offset printed for distribution. Not the same beast. The way to tell is to look at the paper stock and Alien copyright -- was it a file folder label pasted on as an afterthought? Believe me, by the time they get around to sending stuff to theater distributors, the copyright is not an afterthought. If you want the promo theater booklet for Star Wars, we have SEALED, unopened boxes of the theater folio, which still have intact the embossed Star Wars logo ribbon. These are SEALED, unopened boxes... To get an idea of the off-set Star Wars booklet, you can go here: http://www.mycomicshop.com/search?TID=11327001 They were originally sent in a white mailer-type of box with a ribbon closure. The folios, without their boxes, are very common. The folios with open boxes sometimes come up on ebay. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86409487/cam1.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86409487/Cam9.JPG The sealed, unopened boxes are rarer... How many people receive a box and don't open it? You can also ask Rudy Franchi about Charley's marketing of Star Wars. Charley's marketing of Star Wars
Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced
Then place it in another auction where it might get more attention if it is truly a unique piece. But this is what I was talking about...the rarest of Alien books wouldn't bring the price anyway...in my humble opinion - and I collect rare sci-fi paper and I have yet to see any paper on Alien that I would shell out a boat load of cash for, include this book. From: rixpost...@aol.com [mailto:rixpost...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 10:47 AM To: Walton, Jeffrey Cc: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced From my own experience with rare, non-movie poster items on eBay, I'd be willing to bet if the bidding starts at 99 cents or $9.99, this rarest of rare Alien books will sell for a hundred bucks or less... In a message dated 6/22/2012 7:41:24 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jeffrey.wal...@fisglobal.commailto:jeffrey.wal...@fisglobal.com writes: I say let the market speak for itselfstart the book off low...if it is truly a unique piece you will usually get near what the market can bear. Aside from props on the Alien movie I don't see a ton of value in the paper. It was a good movie but nowhere as influential as Star Wars, which this movie probably would have not been made without it. Star Wars has some movie paper that can bring a few thousand dollars...the birthday cake, the mylars, etc...but I have yet to see any Alien paper to bring even $500 or more. Plus when you say less than 30..means there is still a supply (29 is still a lot) out there so the price doesn't justify the demand for a few photos. -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU]mailto:[mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Freeman Fisher Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:51 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced I tried nicely to explain to you nicely about the impressive bid brochures I received in the 70's including exactly the ALIEN book you are selling and also sited other examples including OUTLAND, EXCALIBUR and others, printed on photographic paper then spiral bound and sent to others outside the studio in the industry. I am not going to get in a pissing match with you because you're tiresome. If you look at my original post I tried to explain that some were photographic, others offset/printed depending on the needs. Indeed they are still scarce but to claim less than 30 printed is preposterous. If you knew how many execs were at Fox (that doesn't even include producers, licensing etc.) at the time you would know even that amount doesn't hold water. Also we received these books well before a single poster was printed or trailer created..literally in some cases a year in advance as was the case here. But good look on your endeavors and pricing. freeman On Jun 22, 2012, at 6:17 AM, Geraldine Kudaka wrote: These are not off-set printed booklets. These are made of individual photographs printed by Stanley Bielecki's photo lab using Bob Penn's negatives. Stanley Bielecki printed them in his darkroom using Kodak photographic stock paper... they were then bound using one of the folio spiral bindings you could get at office supplies. If you look at the Alien text page -- the one with white lettering on a black box -- you'll see the copyright was added as an after thought with a typed file folder label. It's easy to think the images are on paper, but they're not. Stanley Bielecki was also the same photographer who hand printed the photos that were folio bound into the Star Wars cast and crew wrap gifts -- the Glory Book. Please look up the history of Star Wars Glory books. This item is a known collectors item and can be found online at other places than mrsminiver's ebay listing, 390426055170 Lucasfilm and Gus Lopez on swca.com used to have it up, as well as some movie prop collectors sites, but I can't find it right now in a 2 minute search. I'm sure you can find proof of its existence by searching the web. As the Star Wars Glory Book is known among collectors -- one MOPO dealer even contacted us to buy ours after we started posting about our Heritage problem -- and its provable, limited production is not simply a statement I am making to increase it's rarity, it is Star Wars history. You are talking about the manufactured booklets that were offset printed for distribution. Not the same beast. The way to tell is to look at the paper stock and Alien copyright -- was it a file folder label pasted on as an afterthought? Believe me, by the time they get around to sending stuff to theater distributors, the copyright is not an afterthought. If you want the promo theater booklet for Star Wars, we have SEALED, unopened boxes of the theater folio, which still have intact the embossed Star Wars logo ribbon. These are SEALED, unopened
Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced
Jeffrey, I have yet to see any Alien paper to bring even $500 or more. as long as it's original and in good condition, I'd be happy to pay $500 for an advance onesheet on ALIEN. Cheers, Helmut http://www.filmposter.net Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced
Helmut, Funny you would mention that poster! http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161226lotNo=53008 This poster, from the film's original release, is the only item that does seem to get better money. I have sold it in the past for over $2000. Makes the one running now seem like a bargain! I have also sold the Alien book for close to $2000. From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:12 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Jeffrey, I have yet to see any Alien paper to bring even $500 or more. as long as it's original and in good condition, I'd be happy to pay $500 for an advance onesheet on ALIEN. Cheers, Helmut http://www.filmposter.net Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.comhttp://www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edumailto:lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced
1.) The pricing of both Star Wars and Alien movie memorabilia have different values, depending on the market. Two years ago we sold several Chaykin poster on ebay for over $2k, yet received on Heritage $850 for that same poster, in the exact same condition. The Heritage Signature Auction went up in the same time period as our ebay auctions. The Heritage Chaykin went to movie poster collectors, where as our ebay poster was marketed to Star Wars collectors. There are a couple of MOPO dealers who currently have this same Chaykin listed on ebay at $2995. Is the poster worth $850 or $2995? 2) Some ebay dealers let the market set the price in the hopes that everything evens out -- some items sell higher while others sell lower. There's a ballpark price and an overall profit margin that averages out by the end of the year. Other dealers use ebay like a retail store and list retail prices, i.e., the Chaykins @ $2995. If the dealer sets a Chaykin @ $2995, are they thieves because they've set the price high? 3.) We had not expected to immediately sell the Alien Studio Head Glory Book. Like mrsminiver's Star Wars Glory book listed on ebay @ $42,000, we did not price this item for an immediate sale. We priced it high as a prelude to putting other items on ebay and promoting the brand for a the site we are building. 4.) The fortunate thing about posting on MOPO and getting attacked is we know what the nay sayers will say. On the site we are building where this item will eventually go -- along with other items from our collection -- we'll find and include documentation. I never thought I'd say this but I guess it's fortunate we moved 72,000 lbs out of LA as those boxes included a lot of files and memos from Charley's career. From: Walton, Jeffrey jeffrey.wal...@fisglobal.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced I say let the market speak for itselfstart the book off low...if it is truly a unique piece you will usually get near what the market can bear. Aside from props on the Alien movie I don't see a ton of value in the paper. It was a good movie but nowhere as influential as Star Wars, which this movie probably would have not been made without it. Star Wars has some movie paper that can bring a few thousand dollars...the birthday cake, the mylars, etc...but I have yet to see any Alien paper to bring even $500 or more. Plus when you say less than 30..means there is still a supply (29 is still a lot) out there so the price doesn't justify the demand for a few photos. -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Freeman Fisher Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:51 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced I tried nicely to explain to you nicely about the impressive bid brochures I received in the 70's including exactly the ALIEN book you are selling and also sited other examples including OUTLAND, EXCALIBUR and others, printed on photographic paper then spiral bound and sent to others outside the studio in the industry. I am not going to get in a pissing match with you because you're tiresome. If you look at my original post I tried to explain that some were photographic, others offset/printed depending on the needs. Indeed they are still scarce but to claim less than 30 printed is preposterous. If you knew how many execs were at Fox (that doesn't even include producers, licensing etc.) at the time you would know even that amount doesn't hold water. Also we received these books well before a single poster was printed or trailer created..literally in some cases a year in advance as was the case here. But good look on your endeavors and pricing. freeman On Jun 22, 2012, at 6:17 AM, Geraldine Kudaka wrote: These are not off-set printed booklets. These are made of individual photographs printed by Stanley Bielecki's photo lab using Bob Penn's negatives. Stanley Bielecki printed them in his darkroom using Kodak photographic stock paper... they were then bound using one of the folio spiral bindings you could get at office supplies. If you look at the Alien text page -- the one with white lettering on a black box -- you'll see the copyright was added as an after thought with a typed file folder label. It's easy to think the images are on paper, but they're not. Stanley Bielecki was also the same photographer who hand printed the photos that were folio bound into the Star Wars cast and crew wrap gifts -- the Glory Book. Please look up the history of Star Wars Glory books. This item is a known collectors item and can be found online at other places than mrsminiver's ebay listing, 390426055170 Lucasfilm and Gus Lopez on swca.com used to have it up, as well as some
Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced
Gee, Grey, the Alien teaser 2 fillmore/avalon posters were part of that batch we sent. Need I say more? From: Smith, Grey - 1367 gre...@ha.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Helmut, Funny you would mention that poster! http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161226lotNo=53008 This poster, from the film’s original release, is the only item that does seem to get better money. I have sold it in the past for over $2000. Makes the one running now seem like a bargain! I have also sold the Alien book for close to $2000. From:MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:12 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Jeffrey, I have yet to see any Alien paper to bring even $500 or more. as long as it's original and in good condition, I'd be happy to pay $500 for an advance onesheet on ALIEN. Cheers, Helmut http://www.filmposter.net Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced
Oh crap I have that one and totally forgot...my bad From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 12:12 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Jeffrey, I have yet to see any Alien paper to bring even $500 or more. as long as it's original and in good condition, I'd be happy to pay $500 for an advance onesheet on ALIEN. Cheers, Helmut http://www.filmposter.net Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.comhttp://www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edumailto:lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced
It must be nice to be infallible. Even if it's only in your own mind. You're so upset about Geraldine's feud with Heritage and Grey, you attack her about anything she says. Sorry but in this case you're wrong. You have decided that this must be an exhibitor kit -- without actually seeing it in the flesh -- and so no one -- even those who were there can convince you otherwise. Too bad your mind is such a closed book and influenced -- overwhelmed -- by petty feuds. People on this list seem to respect you. This sort of stance on your part makes it hard to understand why. Craig. At 06:50 AM 6/22/2012, Freeman Fisher wrote: I tried nicely to explain to you nicely about the impressive bid brochures I received in the 70's including exactly the ALIEN book you are selling and also sited other examples including OUTLAND, EXCALIBUR and others, printed on photographic paper then spiral bound and sent to others outside the studio in the industry. I am not going to get in a pissing match with you because you're tiresome.If you look at my original post I tried to explain that some were photographic, others offset/printed depending on the needs. Indeed they are still scarce but to claim less than 30 printed is preposterous. If you knew how many execs were at Fox (that doesn't even include producers, licensing etc.) at the time you would know even that amount doesn't hold water. Also we received these books well before a single poster was printed or trailer created..literally in some cases a year in advance as was the case here. But good look on your endeavors and pricing. freeman On Jun 22, 2012, at 6:17 AM, Geraldine Kudaka wrote: These are not off-set printed booklets. These are made of individual photographs printed by Stanley Bielecki's photo lab using Bob Penn's negatives. Stanley Bielecki printed them in his darkroom using Kodak photographic stock paper... they were then bound using one of the folio spiral bindings you could get at office supplies. If you look at the Alien text page -- the one with white lettering on a black box -- you'll see the copyright was added as an after thought with a typed file folder label. It's easy to think the images are on paper, but they're not. Stanley Bielecki was also the same photographer who hand printed the photos that were folio bound into the Star Wars cast and crew wrap gifts -- the Glory Book. Please look up the history of Star Wars Glory books. This item is a known collectors item and can be found online at other places than mrsminiver's ebay listing, 390426055170 Lucasfilm and Gus Lopez on swca.com used to have it up, as well as some movie prop collectors sites, but I can't find it right now in a 2 minute search. I'm sure you can find proof of its existence by searching the web. As the Star Wars Glory Book is known among collectors -- one MOPO dealer even contacted us to buy ours after we started posting about our Heritage problem -- and its provable, limited production is not simply a statement I am making to increase it's rarity, it is Star Wars history. You are talking about the manufactured booklets that were offset printed for distribution. Not the same beast. The way to tell is to look at the paper stock and Alien copyright -- was it a file folder label pasted on as an afterthought? Believe me, by the time they get around to sending stuff to theater distributors, the copyright is not an afterthought. If you want the promo theater booklet for Star Wars, we have SEALED, unopened boxes of the theater folio, which still have intact the embossed Star Wars logo ribbon. These are SEALED, unopened boxes... To get an idea of the off-set Star Wars booklet, you can go here: http://www.mycomicshop.com/search?TID=11327001 They were originally sent in a white mailer-type of box with a ribbon closure. The folios, without their boxes, are very common. The folios with open boxes sometimes come up on ebay. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86409487/cam1.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86409487/Cam9.JPG The sealed, unopened boxes are rarer... How many people receive a box and don't open it? You can also ask Rudy Franchi about Charley's marketing of Star Wars. Charley's marketing of Star Wars, especially the advance merchandising and licensing, changed the way movies are marketed. There were a few films released before Star Wars with advance merchandising and licensing, such as Paramount's The Great Gatsby and 20th Century's Doctor Doolittle but for box office results -- but it was Star Wars' Kenner line which changed movie marketing. From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced I have similar ring binder books for Willow and for Chariots of Fire. I may even have more than one each and I may even have others it's
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Anyone have a link to pix of this Alien Glory Book? - Like to see for myself what the heck it looks like. Alan A On Jun 22, 2012, at 6:17 AM, Geraldine Kudaka wrote: These are not off-set printed booklets. These are made of individual photographs printed by Stanley Bielecki's photo lab using Bob Penn's negatives. Stanley Bielecki printed them in his darkroom using Kodak photographic stock paper... they were then bound using one of the folio spiral bindings you could get at office supplies. If you look at the Alien text page -- the one with white lettering on a black box -- you'll see the copyright was added as an after thought with a typed file folder label. It's easy to think the images are on paper, but they're not. Stanley Bielecki was also the same photographer who hand printed the photos that were folio bound into the Star Wars cast and crew wrap gifts -- the Glory Book. Please look up the history of Star Wars Glory books. This item is a known collectors item and can be found online at other places than mrsminiver's ebay listing, 390426055170 Lucasfilm and Gus Lopez on swca.com used to have it up, as well as some movie prop collectors sites, but I can't find it right now in a 2 minute search. I'm sure you can find proof of its existence by searching the web. As the Star Wars Glory Book is known among collectors -- one MOPO dealer even contacted us to buy ours after we started posting about our Heritage problem -- and its provable, limited production is not simply a statement I am making to increase it's rarity, it is Star Wars history. You are talking about the manufactured booklets that were offset printed for distribution. Not the same beast. The way to tell is to look at the paper stock and Alien copyright -- was it a file folder label pasted on as an afterthought? Believe me, by the time they get around to sending stuff to theater distributors, the copyright is not an afterthought. If you want the promo theater booklet for Star Wars, we have SEALED, unopened boxes of the theater folio, which still have intact the embossed Star Wars logo ribbon. These are SEALED, unopened boxes... To get an idea of the off-set Star Wars booklet, you can go here: http://www.mycomicshop.com/search?TID=11327001 They were originally sent in a white mailer-type of box with a ribbon closure. The folios, without their boxes, are very common. The folios with open boxes sometimes come up on ebay. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86409487/cam1.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86409487/Cam9.JPG The sealed, unopened boxes are rarer... How many people receive a box and don't open it? You can also ask Rudy Franchi about Charley's marketing of Star Wars. Charley's marketing of Star Wars, especially the advance merchandising and licensing, changed the way movies are marketed. There were a few films released before Star Wars with advance merchandising and licensing, such as Paramount's The Great Gatsby and 20th Century's Doctor Doolittle but for box office results -- but it was Star Wars' Kenner line which changed movie marketing. From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced I have similar ring binder books for Willow and for Chariots of Fire. I may even have more than one each and I may even have others it's obvious that some are just photographic prints, while others look like they were printed editions At 10:59 AM 6/21/2012, Freeman Fisher wrote: Geraldine, Your description of this ALIEN booklet is not accurate. These booklets were sent out to exhibitor owners and execs. Back in the 1970's there still existed numerous blind bid states. I worked in Texas and it was the most extreme example given the sizes of Houston, Dallas, Fort Worth, San Antonio and Austin and the money those markets represented Blind bidding was when a theatre chain had to commit to a film, sometimes a year in advance, with terms outlined (1st two weeks at 70% 2nd two weeks at 60% etc.) and frequently putting up at times tens of thousands if not all together 100's of thousands of dollars on the blockbusters WITHOUT EVER SEEING A SCRAP OF FILM. So these booklets were sent out prior to bidding and came in all kinds of formats.some just a couple of fold out pages to nice booklets with on set photography. If my memory isn't completely failing, I recall booklets on STAR WARS, ALIEN, BLADE RUNNER, APOCALYPSE NOW, WILLOW, OUTLAND, EXCALIBUR and a few others that were really impressive. Others like ET (at the time called A BOY'S LIFE) were just gate folded brochures (no picture of ET for sure that was such a huge secret). Same with RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK, CLASH OF THE TITANS, etc. etc. And then some were
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*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0* On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Alan Adler m...@charter.net wrote: Anyone have a link to pix of this Alien Glory Book? - Like to see for myself what the heck it looks like. Alan A On Jun 22, 2012, at 6:17 AM, Geraldine Kudaka wrote: These are not off-set printed booklets. These are made of individual photographs printed by Stanley Bielecki's photo lab using Bob Penn's negatives. Stanley Bielecki printed them in his darkroom using Kodak photographic stock paper... they were then bound using one of the folio spiral bindings you could get at office supplies. If you look at the Alien text page -- the one with white lettering on a black box -- you'll see the copyright was added as an after thought with a typed file folder label. It's easy to think the images are on paper, but they're not. Stanley Bielecki was also the same photographer who hand printed the photos that were folio bound into the Star Wars cast and crew wrap gifts -- the Glory Book. Please look up the history of Star Wars Glory books. This item is a known collectors item and can be found online at other places than mrsminiver's ebay listing, 390426055170 Lucasfilm and Gus Lopez on swca.com used to have it up, as well as some movie prop collectors sites, but I can't find it right now in a 2 minute search. I'm sure you can find proof of its existence by searching the web. As the Star Wars Glory Book is known among collectors -- one MOPO dealer even contacted us to buy ours after we started posting about our Heritage problem -- and its provable, limited production is not simply a statement I am making to increase it's rarity, it is Star Wars history. You are talking about the manufactured booklets that were offset printed for distribution. Not the same beast. The way to tell is to look at the paper stock and Alien copyright -- was it a file folder label pasted on as an afterthought? Believe me, by the time they get around to sending stuff to theater distributors, the copyright is not an afterthought. If you want the promo theater booklet for Star Wars, we have SEALED, unopened boxes of the theater folio, which still have intact the embossed Star Wars logo ribbon. These are SEALED, unopened boxes... To get an idea of the off-set Star Wars booklet, you can go here: http://www.mycomicshop.com/search?TID=11327001 They were originally sent in a white mailer-type of box with a ribbon closure. The folios, without their boxes, are very common. The folios with open boxes sometimes come up on ebay. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86409487/cam1.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86409487/Cam9.JPG The sealed, unopened boxes are rarer... How many people receive a box and don't open it? You can also ask Rudy Franchi about Charley's marketing of Star Wars. Charley's marketing of Star Wars, especially the advance merchandising and licensing, changed the way movies are marketed. There were a few films released before Star Wars with advance merchandising and licensing, such as Paramount's The Great Gatsby and 20th Century's Doctor Doolittle but for box office results -- but it was Star Wars' Kenner line which changed movie marketing. -- *From:* Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU *Sent:* Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:10 PM *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced I have similar ring binder books for Willow and for Chariots of Fire. I may even have more than one each and I may even have others it's obvious that some are just photographic prints, while others look like they were printed editions At 10:59 AM 6/21/2012, Freeman Fisher wrote: Geraldine, Your description of this ALIEN booklet is not accurate. These booklets were sent out to exhibitor owners and execs. Back in the 1970's there still existed numerous blind bid states. I worked in Texas and it was the most extreme example given the sizes of Houston, Dallas, Fort Worth, San Antonio and Austin and the money those markets represented Blind bidding was when a theatre chain had to commit to a film, sometimes a year in advance, with terms outlined (1st two weeks at 70% 2nd two weeks at 60% etc.) and frequently putting up at times tens of thousands if not all together 100's of thousands of dollars on the blockbusters WITHOUT EVER SEEING A SCRAP OF FILM. So these booklets were sent out prior to bidding and came in all kinds of formats.some just a couple of fold out pages to nice booklets with on set photography. If my memory isn't completely failing, I recall booklets on STAR WARS, ALIEN, BLADE RUNNER, APOCALYPSE NOW, WILLOW, OUTLAND, EXCALIBUR and a few others that were really impressive. Others like ET (at the time called A BOY'S LIFE) were just gate folded brochures (no picture of ET for sure that was such a huge secret). Same with RAIDERS
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I wouldn't expect Bruce to blow his own trumpet about this one, but there's been a few instances of the advance doing well on emovieposter, including a tri-folded one going for $1.6k. That said, I'm not attempting to disagree that generally speaking Alien material isn't valued particularly highly. I am interested in the Pelham style Clockwork Orange, one of which Geraldine sold through Heritage. There's been quite a bit of debate about this. And one of the oddest things was the variation sold by Bruce which had the Fellini quote, and was folded, whether machine folded, dunno. Geraldine, is there anything you can add to this, the background to how Charlie acquired it? Not knocking Grey, but there were some discrepancies in Heritage's account about these posters, so not automatically accepting their version as gospel. Sent from my iPhone On 22 Jun 2012, at 17:12, Helmut Hamm texasmu...@web.de wrote: Jeffrey, I have yet to see any Alien paper to bring even $500 or more. as long as it's original and in good condition, I'd be happy to pay $500 for an advance onesheet on ALIEN. Cheers, Helmut http://www.filmposter.net Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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more tiresome claptrap At 09:25 AM 6/22/2012, Geraldine Kudaka wrote: Gee, Grey, the Alien teaser 2 fillmore/avalon posters were part of that batch we sent. Need I say more? From: Smith, Grey - 1367 gre...@ha.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Helmut, Funny you would mention that poster! http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161226lotNo=53008 This poster, from the filmâs original release, is the only item that does seem to get better money. I have sold it in the past for over $2000. Makes the one running now seem like a bargain! I have also sold the Alien book for close to $2000. From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:12 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Jeffrey, I have yet to see any Alien paper to bring even $500 or more. as long as it's original and in good condition, I'd be happy to pay $500 for an advance onesheet on ALIEN. Cheers, Helmut http://www.filmposter.net Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.com/www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Well, Grey, I just bumped it up to $650, so you're not going to go broke yet! Kirby On Jun 22, 2012, at 11:21 AM, Smith, Grey - 1367 wrote: Helmut, Funny you would mention that poster! http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161226lotNo=53008 This poster, from the film’s original release, is the only item that does seem to get better money. I have sold it in the past for over $2000. Makes the one running now seem like a bargain! I have also sold the Alien book for close to $2000. From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:12 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Jeffrey, I have yet to see any Alien paper to bring even $500 or more. as long as it's original and in good condition, I'd be happy to pay $500 for an advance onesheet on ALIEN. Cheers, Helmut http://www.filmposter.net Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Snooze control -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 1:52 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced more tiresome claptrap At 09:25 AM 6/22/2012, Geraldine Kudaka wrote: Gee, Grey, the Alien teaser 2 fillmore/avalon posters were part of that batch we sent. Need I say more? From: Smith, Grey - 1367 gre...@ha.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Helmut, Funny you would mention that poster! http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161226 http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161226lotNo=53008 lotNo=53008 This poster, from the film’s original release, is the only item that does seem to get better money. I have sold it in the past for over $2000. Makes the one running now seem like a bargain! I have also sold the Alien book for close to $2000. From: MoPo List [ mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:12 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Jeffrey, I have yet to see any Alien paper to bring even $500 or more. as long as it's original and in good condition, I'd be happy to pay $500 for an advance onesheet on ALIEN. Cheers, Helmut http://www.filmposter.net Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com http://www.filmfan.com/ ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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I'd bump it up myself, but I don't want this poster if I happen to get lucky win it : - P At 11:02 AM 6/22/2012, Kirby McDaniel wrote: Well, Grey, I just bumped it up to $650, so you're not going to go broke yet! Kirby On Jun 22, 2012, at 11:21 AM, Smith, Grey - 1367 wrote: Helmut, Funny you would mention that poster! http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161226lotNo=53008http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161226lotNo=53008 This poster, from the film's original release, is the only item that does seem to get better money. I have sold it in the past for over $2000. Makes the one running now seem like a bargain! I have also sold the Alien book for close to $2000. From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:12 AM To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUMoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Jeffrey, I have yet to see any Alien paper to bring even $500 or more. as long as it's original and in good condition, I'd be happy to pay $500 for an advance onesheet on ALIEN. Cheers, Helmut http://www.filmposter.nethttp://www.filmposter.net Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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I say when it's your stuff you can price it the way you want to. I've seen plenty of over priced items on Ebay. I don't buy them, and it doesn't upset me that they are over priced. As far as Alien not being as important movie as Star Wars, sure, that's true. But Aliens is one of the best Sci-Fi movies made in the last 30 years. And it was made for adults. So it's not going to sell 100,000 cute little dolls that your kids can play with. JW From: Freeman Fisher flixs...@aol.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced I tried nicely to explain to you nicely about the impressive bid brochures I received in the 70's including exactly the ALIEN book you are selling and also sited other examples including OUTLAND, EXCALIBUR and others, printed on photographic paper then spiral bound and sent to others outside the studio in the industry. I am not going to get in a pissing match with you because you're tiresome. If you look at my original post I tried to explain that some were photographic, others offset/printed depending on the needs. Indeed they are still scarce but to claim less than 30 printed is preposterous. If you knew how many execs were at Fox (that doesn't even include producers, licensing etc.) at the time you would know even that amount doesn't hold water. Also we received these books well before a single poster was printed or trailer created..literally in some cases a year in advance as was the case here. But good look on your endeavors and pricing. freeman On Jun 22, 2012, at 6:17 AM, Geraldine Kudaka wrote: These are not off-set printed booklets. These are made of individual photographs printed by Stanley Bielecki's photo lab using Bob Penn's negatives. Stanley Bielecki printed them in his darkroom using Kodak photographic stock paper... they were then bound using one of the folio spiral bindings you could get at office supplies. If you look at the Alien text page -- the one with white lettering on a black box -- you'll see the copyright was added as an after thought with a typed file folder label. It's easy to think the images are on paper, but they're not. Stanley Bielecki was also the same photographer who hand printed the photos that were folio bound into the Star Wars cast and crew wrap gifts -- the Glory Book. Please look up the history of Star Wars Glory books. This item is a known collectors item and can be found online at other places than mrsminiver's ebay listing, 390426055170 Lucasfilm and Gus Lopez on swca.com used to have it up, as well as some movie prop collectors sites, but I can't find it right now in a 2 minute search. I'm sure you can find proof of its existence by searching the web. As the Star Wars Glory Book is known among collectors -- one MOPO dealer even contacted us to buy ours after we started posting about our Heritage problem -- and its provable, limited production is not simply a statement I am making to increase it's rarity, it is Star Wars history. You are talking about the manufactured booklets that were offset printed for distribution. Not the same beast. The way to tell is to look at the paper stock and Alien copyright -- was it a file folder label pasted on as an afterthought? Believe me, by the time they get around to sending stuff to theater distributors, the copyright is not an afterthought. If you want the promo theater booklet for Star Wars, we have SEALED, unopened boxes of the theater folio, which still have intact the embossed Star Wars logo ribbon. These are SEALED, unopened boxes... To get an idea of the off-set Star Wars booklet, you can go here: http://www.mycomicshop.com/search?TID=11327001 They were originally sent in a white mailer-type of box with a ribbon closure. The folios, without their boxes, are very common. The folios with open boxes sometimes come up on ebay. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86409487/cam1.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86409487/Cam9.JPG The sealed, unopened boxes are rarer... How many people receive a box and don't open it? You can also ask Rudy Franchi about Charley's marketing of Star Wars. Charley's marketing of Star Wars, especially the advance merchandising and licensing, changed the way movies are marketed. There were a few films released before Star Wars with advance merchandising and licensing, such as Paramount's The Great Gatsby and 20th Century's Doctor Doolittle but for box office results -- but it was Star Wars' Kenner line which changed movie marketing. From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced I have similar ring binder books for Willow and for Chariots
Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced
you may be able to delete the message, but you'll never be able to delete it from your mind (until we get to Total Recall) At 11:18 AM 6/22/2012, Richard Auras wrote: Anyone know where I can get a new 'delete' key? mine is getting quite a workout these days and wearing a bit thin. From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Fri, June 22, 2012 12:53:07 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced more tiresome claptrap At 09:25 AM 6/22/2012, Geraldine Kudaka wrote: Gee, Grey, the Alien teaser 2 fillmore/avalon posters were part of that batch we sent. Need I say more? From: Smith, Grey - 1367 gre...@ha.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Helmut, Funny you would mention that poster! http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161226lotNo=53008 This poster, from the filmââ¢s original release, is the only item that does seem to get better money. I have sold it in the past for over $2000. Makes the one running now seem like a bargain! I have also sold the Alien book for close to $2000. From: MoPo List [ mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:12 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Jeffrey, I have yet to see any Alien paper to bring even $500 or more. as long as it's original and in good condition, I'd be happy to pay $500 for an advance onesheet on ALIEN. Cheers, Helmut http://www.filmposter.net Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.com/www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.com/www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.com/www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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No, Geraldine, really don't say any more. You have completely taken over this forum with your repeated, wearying, unsubstantiated claims. I suspect any sympathy for you has long since evaporated. Mine certainly has. If your claims have any basis in fact, it's for the law to decide. I know that you're hoping to leave a series of allegations in a public forum that future possible customers of Heritage will come across. However, because you've gone on and on ad nauseum and alienated so many MOPOers, there are almost as many negative public comments about your own motives, reliability and character. I won't comment publicly myself on how sane or otherwise I think you are (have a wild stab in the dark), but I suspect that your credibility is what the casual reader of the forum will consider and weigh when reading this thread, more so than Heritage's business practices. Sometimes in life it's better to just say your piece and then shut up. Neil From: Geraldine Kudaka gkud...@rocketmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, 22 June 2012, 17:25 Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Gee, Grey, the Alien teaser 2 fillmore/avalon posters were part of that batch we sent. Need I say more? From: Smith, Grey - 1367 gre...@ha.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Helmut, Funny you would mention that poster! http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161226lotNo=53008 This poster, from the film’s original release, is the only item that does seem to get better money. I have sold it in the past for over $2000. Makes the one running now seem like a bargain! I have also sold the Alien book for close to $2000. From:MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:12 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Jeffrey, I have yet to see any Alien paper to bring even $500 or more. as long as it's original and in good condition, I'd be happy to pay $500 for an advance onesheet on ALIEN. Cheers, Helmut http://www.filmposter.net Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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At 11:18 AM 6/22/2012, Richard Auras wrote: Anyone know where I can get a new 'delete' key? mine is getting quite a workout these days and wearing a bit thin. A new delete key is available here for about $25. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Macbook-Pro-Unibody-Original-Replacement-Key-DELETE-/310384737079?pt=AU_Input_Peripheralshash=item48445f3b37 However... I see others on Ebay for as low as $1.49. I don't know enough about delete keys to know what warrants a more than 1500% differential between delete keys. Perhaps some are rarer, more vintage or limited release delete keys. The lowest price delete key that I could find was white, rather than black or red. However the white key looked rather minty. I like to think I know more than the average bear about posters, yet I have seen what appear to be identical posters offered for $149 vs. $2,500, so this differential in delete key value will need to be decided by consumer/collectors more knowledgeable than I. - Original Message - From: Richard Auras To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Anyone know where I can get a new 'delete' key? mine is getting quite a workout these days and wearing a bit thin. -- From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Fri, June 22, 2012 12:53:07 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced more tiresome claptrap At 09:25 AM 6/22/2012, Geraldine Kudaka wrote: Gee, Grey, the Alien teaser 2 fillmore/avalon posters were part of that batch we sent. Need I say more? From: Smith, Grey - 1367 gre...@ha.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Helmut, Funny you would mention that poster! http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161226lotNo=53008 This poster, from the film’s original release, is the only item that does seem to get better money. I have sold it in the past for over $2000. Makes the one running now seem like a bargain! I have also sold the Alien book for close to $2000. From: MoPo List [ mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:12 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Jeffrey, I have yet to see any Alien paper to bring even $500 or more. as long as it's original and in good condition, I'd be happy to pay $500 for an advance onesheet on ALIEN. Cheers, Helmut http://www.filmposter.net Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists
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What Neil said. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Neil Jaworski Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 2:27 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced No, Geraldine, really don't say any more. You have completely taken over this forum with your repeated, wearying, unsubstantiated claims. I suspect any sympathy for you has long since evaporated. Mine certainly has. If your claims have any basis in fact, it's for the law to decide. I know that you're hoping to leave a series of allegations in a public forum that future possible customers of Heritage will come across. However, because you've gone on and on ad nauseum and alienated so many MOPOers, there are almost as many negative public comments about your own motives, reliability and character. I won't comment publicly myself on how sane or otherwise I think you are (have a wild stab in the dark), but I suspect that your credibility is what the casual reader of the forum will consider and weigh when reading this thread, more so than Heritage's business practices. Sometimes in life it's better to just say your piece and then shut up. Neil _ From: Geraldine Kudaka gkud...@rocketmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, 22 June 2012, 17:25 Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Gee, Grey, the Alien teaser 2 fillmore/avalon posters were part of that batch we sent. Need I say more? _ From: Smith, Grey - 1367 gre...@ha.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Helmut, Funny you would mention that poster! http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161226lotNo=53008 This poster, from the film's original release, is the only item that does seem to get better money. I have sold it in the past for over $2000. Makes the one running now seem like a bargain! I have also sold the Alien book for close to $2000. From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:12 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Jeffrey, I have yet to see any Alien paper to bring even $500 or more. as long as it's original and in good condition, I'd be happy to pay $500 for an advance onesheet on ALIEN. Cheers, Helmut http://www.filmposter.net Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com http://www.filmfan.com/ ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced
Speaking of Alien. Here is the creation of the creature. A work in progress. --- On Fri, 6/22/12, Geraldine Kudaka gkud...@rocketmail.com wrote: From: Geraldine Kudaka gkud...@rocketmail.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Friday, June 22, 2012, 6:17 AM These are not off-set printed booklets. These are made of individual photographs printed by Stanley Bielecki's photo lab using Bob Penn's negatives. Stanley Bielecki printed them in his darkroom using Kodak photographic stock paper... they were then bound using one of the folio spiral bindings you could get at office supplies. If you look at the Alien text page -- the one with white lettering on a black box -- you'll see the copyright was added as an after thought with a typed file folder label. It's easy to think the images are on paper, but they're not. Stanley Bielecki was also the same photographer who hand printed the photos that were folio bound into the Star Wars cast and crew wrap gifts -- the Glory Book. Please look up the history of Star Wars Glory books. This item is a known collectors item and can be found online at other places than mrsminiver's ebay listing, 390426055170 Lucasfilm and Gus Lopez on swca.com used to have it up, as well as some movie prop collectors sites, but I can't find it right now in a 2 minute search. I'm sure you can find proof of its existence by searching the web. As the Star Wars Glory Book is known among collectors -- one MOPO dealer even contacted us to buy ours after we started posting about our Heritage problem -- and its provable, limited production is not simply a statement I am making to increase it's rarity, it is Star Wars history. You are talking about the manufactured booklets that were offset printed for distribution. Not the same beast. The way to tell is to look at the paper stock and Alien copyright -- was it a file folder label pasted on as an afterthought? Believe me, by the time they get around to sending stuff to theater distributors, the copyright is not an afterthought. If you want the promo theater booklet for Star Wars, we have SEALED, unopened boxes of the theater folio, which still have intact the embossed Star Wars logo ribbon. These are SEALED, unopened boxes... To get an idea of the off-set Star Wars booklet, you can go here: http://www.mycomicshop.com/search?TID=11327001 They were originally sent in a white mailer-type of box with a ribbon closure. The folios, without their boxes, are very common. The folios with open boxes sometimes come up on ebay. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86409487/cam1.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86409487/Cam9.JPG The sealed, unopened boxes are rarer... How many people receive a box and don't open it? You can also ask Rudy Franchi about Charley's marketing of Star Wars. Charley's marketing of Star Wars, especially the advance merchandising and licensing, changed the way movies are marketed. There were a few films released before Star Wars with advance merchandising and licensing, such as Paramount's The Great Gatsby and 20th Century's Doctor Doolittle but for box office results -- but it was Star Wars' Kenner line which changed movie marketing. From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced I have similar ring binder books for Willow and for Chariots of Fire. I may even have more than one each and I may even have others it's obvious that some are just photographic prints, while others look like they were printed editions At 10:59 AM 6/21/2012, Freeman Fisher wrote: Geraldine, Your description of this ALIEN booklet is not accurate. These booklets were sent out to exhibitor owners and execs. Back in the 1970's there still existed numerous blind bid states. I worked in Texas and it was the most extreme example given the sizes of Houston, Dallas, Fort Worth, San Antonio and Austin and the money those markets represented Blind bidding was when a theatre chain had to commit to a film, sometimes a year in advance, with terms outlined (1st two weeks at 70% 2nd two weeks at 60% etc.) and frequently putting up at times tens of thousands if not all together 100's of thousands of dollars on the blockbusters WITHOUT EVER SEEING A SCRAP OF FILM. So these booklets were sent out prior to bidding and came in all kinds of formats.some just a couple of fold out pages to nice booklets with on set photography. If my memory isn't completely failing, I recall booklets on STAR WARS, ALIEN, BLADE RUNNER, APOCALYPSE NOW, WILLOW, OUTLAND, EXCALIBUR and a few others that were really impressive. Others like ET (at the time called A BOY'S LIFE) were just gate folded brochures (no picture of ET for sure that was such a huge secret
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This is great. JW From: Jay Pea spitfire3...@yahoo.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Speaking of Alien. Here is the creation of the creature. A work in progress. --- On Fri, 6/22/12, Geraldine Kudaka gkud...@rocketmail.com wrote: From: Geraldine Kudaka gkud...@rocketmail.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Friday, June 22, 2012, 6:17 AM These are not off-set printed booklets. These are made of individual photographs printed by Stanley Bielecki's photo lab using Bob Penn's negatives. Stanley Bielecki printed them in his darkroom using Kodak photographic stock paper... they were then bound using one of the folio spiral bindings you could get at office supplies. If you look at the Alien text page -- the one with white lettering on a black box -- you'll see the copyright was added as an after thought with a typed file folder label. It's easy to think the images are on paper, but they're not. Stanley Bielecki was also the same photographer who hand printed the photos that were folio bound into the Star Wars cast and crew wrap gifts -- the Glory Book. Please look up the history of Star Wars Glory books. This item is a known collectors item and can be found online at other places than mrsminiver's ebay listing, 390426055170 Lucasfilm and Gus Lopez on swca.com used to have it up, as well as some movie prop collectors sites, but I can't find it right now in a 2 minute search. I'm sure you can find proof of its existence by searching the web. As the Star Wars Glory Book is known among collectors -- one MOPO dealer even contacted us to buy ours after we started posting about our Heritage problem -- and its provable, limited production is not simply a statement I am making to increase it's rarity, it is Star Wars history. You are talking about the manufactured booklets that were offset printed for distribution. Not the same beast. The way to tell is to look at the paper stock and Alien copyright -- was it a file folder label pasted on as an afterthought? Believe me, by the time they get around to sending stuff to theater distributors, the copyright is not an afterthought. If you want the promo theater booklet for Star Wars, we have SEALED, unopened boxes of the theater folio, which still have intact the embossed Star Wars logo ribbon. These are SEALED, unopened boxes... To get an idea of the off-set Star Wars booklet, you can go here: http://www.mycomicshop.com/search?TID=11327001 They were originally sent in a white mailer-type of box with a ribbon closure. The folios, without their boxes, are very common. The folios with open boxes sometimes come up on ebay. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86409487/cam1.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86409487/Cam9.JPG The sealed, unopened boxes are rarer... How many people receive a box and don't open it? You can also ask Rudy Franchi about Charley's marketing of Star Wars. Charley's marketing of Star Wars, especially the advance merchandising and licensing, changed the way movies are marketed. There were a few films released before Star Wars with advance merchandising and licensing, such as Paramount's The Great Gatsby and 20th Century's Doctor Doolittle but for box office results -- but it was Star Wars' Kenner line which changed movie marketing. From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced I have similar ring binder books for Willow and for Chariots of Fire. I may even have more than one each and I may even have othersit's obvious that some are just photographic prints, while others look like they were printed editionsAt 10:59 AM 6/21/2012, Freeman Fisher wrote: Geraldine, Your description of this ALIEN booklet is not accurate. These booklets were sent out to exhibitor owners and execs. Back in the 1970's there still existed numerous blind bid states. I worked in Texas and it was the most extreme example given the sizes of Houston, Dallas, Fort Worth, San Antonio and Austin and the money those markets represented Blind bidding was when a theatre chain had to commit to a film, sometimes a year in advance, with terms outlined (1st two weeks at 70% 2nd two weeks at 60% etc.) and frequently putting up at times tens of thousands if not all together 100's of thousands of dollars on the blockbusters WITHOUT EVER SEEING A SCRAP OF FILM. So these booklets were sent out prior to bidding and came in all kinds of formats.some just a couple of fold out pages to nice booklets with on set photography. If my memory isn't completely failing, I recall booklets on STAR WARS, ALIEN, BLADE RUNNER
Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced
And the man inside: --- On Fri, 6/22/12, John Waldman jhnwald...@yahoo.com wrote: From: John Waldman jhnwald...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Friday, June 22, 2012, 1:12 PM This is great. JW From: Jay Pea spitfire3...@yahoo.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Speaking of Alien. Here is the creation of the creature. A work in progress. --- On Fri, 6/22/12, Geraldine Kudaka gkud...@rocketmail.com wrote: From: Geraldine Kudaka gkud...@rocketmail.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Friday, June 22, 2012, 6:17 AM These are not off-set printed booklets. These are made of individual photographs printed by Stanley Bielecki's photo lab using Bob Penn's negatives. Stanley Bielecki printed them in his darkroom using Kodak photographic stock paper... they were then bound using one of the folio spiral bindings you could get at office supplies. If you look at the Alien text page -- the one with white lettering on a black box -- you'll see the copyright was added as an after thought with a typed file folder label. It's easy to think the images are on paper, but they're not. Stanley Bielecki was also the same photographer who hand printed the photos that were folio bound into the Star Wars cast and crew wrap gifts -- the Glory Book. Please look up the history of Star Wars Glory books. This item is a known collectors item and can be found online at other places than mrsminiver's ebay listing, 390426055170 Lucasfilm and Gus Lopez on swca.com used to have it up, as well as some movie prop collectors sites, but I can't find it right now in a 2 minute search. I'm sure you can find proof of its existence by searching the web. As the Star Wars Glory Book is known among collectors -- one MOPO dealer even contacted us to buy ours after we started posting about our Heritage problem -- and its provable, limited production is not simply a statement I am making to increase it's rarity, it is Star Wars history. You are talking about the manufactured booklets that were offset printed for distribution. Not the same beast. The way to tell is to look at the paper stock and Alien copyright -- was it a file folder label pasted on as an afterthought? Believe me, by the time they get around to sending stuff to theater distributors, the copyright is not an afterthought. If you want the promo theater booklet for Star Wars, we have SEALED, unopened boxes of the theater folio, which still have intact the embossed Star Wars logo ribbon. These are SEALED, unopened boxes... To get an idea of the off-set Star Wars booklet, you can go here: http://www.mycomicshop.com/search?TID=11327001 They were originally sent in a white mailer-type of box with a ribbon closure. The folios, without their boxes, are very common. The folios with open boxes sometimes come up on ebay. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86409487/cam1.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86409487/Cam9.JPG The sealed, unopened boxes are rarer... How many people receive a box and don't open it? You can also ask Rudy Franchi about Charley's marketing of Star Wars. Charley's marketing of Star Wars, especially the advance merchandising and licensing, changed the way movies are marketed. There were a few films released before Star Wars with advance merchandising and licensing, such as Paramount's The Great Gatsby and 20th Century's Doctor Doolittle but for box office results -- but it was Star Wars' Kenner line which changed movie marketing. From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced I have similar ring binder books for Willow and for Chariots of Fire. I may even have more than one each and I may even have others it's obvious that some are just photographic prints, while others look like they were printed editions At 10:59 AM 6/21/2012, Freeman Fisher wrote: Geraldine, Your description of this ALIEN booklet is not accurate. These booklets were sent out to exhibitor owners and execs. Back in the 1970's there still existed numerous blind bid states. I worked in Texas and it was the most extreme example given the sizes of Houston, Dallas, Fort Worth, San Antonio and Austin and the money those markets represented Blind bidding was when a theatre chain had to commit to a film, sometimes a year in advance, with terms outlined (1st two weeks at 70% 2nd two weeks at 60% etc.) and frequently putting up at times tens of thousands if not all together 100's of thousands of dollars on the blockbusters WITHOUT EVER SEEING A SCRAP OF FILM. So these booklets were sent out
[MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced
We've decided to put up our own auctions. Will be announcing posters later, but thought the avid Alien collector might be interested in this ebay item. Based on the successful marketing of Star Wars, Charley Lippincott was hired by Johnny Friedkin / Fox to market Alien. This ebay auction is for a rare photo booklet made for Fox's studio heads. ebay listing 290731119615 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced
Geraldine, Your description of this ALIEN booklet is not accurate. These booklets were sent out to exhibitor owners and execs. Back in the 1970's there still existed numerous blind bid states. I worked in Texas and it was the most extreme example given the sizes of Houston, Dallas, Fort Worth, San Antonio and Austin and the money those markets represented Blind bidding was when a theatre chain had to commit to a film, sometimes a year in advance, with terms outlined (1st two weeks at 70% 2nd two weeks at 60% etc.) and frequently putting up at times tens of thousands if not all together 100's of thousands of dollars on the blockbusters WITHOUT EVER SEEING A SCRAP OF FILM. So these booklets were sent out prior to bidding and came in all kinds of formats.some just a couple of fold out pages to nice booklets with on set photography. If my memory isn't completely failing, I recall booklets on STAR WARS, ALIEN, BLADE RUNNER, APOCALYPSE NOW, WILLOW, OUTLAND, EXCALIBUR and a few others that were really impressive. Others like ET (at the time called A BOY'S LIFE) were just gate folded brochures (no picture of ET for sure that was such a huge secret). Same with RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK, CLASH OF THE TITANS, etc. etc. And then some were just a single printed sheet saying who starred, produced and directed. (Can you imagine buying a car with a tarp over it and being given just a description and some art, commit to it, and not expect delivery for 9 to 12 months...that was blind bidding!) Anyway to say only 30 were made is preposterous. Just in Texas alone there had to be at least 25 to 35 theatre chains, each film buyer and marketing guy receiving a copy. In the theatre chain I worked at, we usually would receive four to five and we were only in San Antonio. Now multiply those number by triple (or more) to accommodate the personnel at circuits like Plitt, AMC, General Cinema, United Artists, Mann, and you can see the numbers required approach a 1000 in no time. Plus certain critics at the major National News agencies received copies on occasion. Also a little common sense is in order. Once a brochure is on the printing press, or photos being printed and spiral bound, do you honestly think under 30 would be printed? Because once on the presses it almost as cheap to print several thousand as it is 20. The $$ are in the set-up. These pieces were not dissimilar to the Studio Release books from the 1930's that pop up frequently. So while it makes for great Ebay copy to limit their numbers to generate a false sense of scarcity. This is not the case with these marketing tools. Whether they have ever been in an auction or not is irrelevant. While you can ask whatever price you like, ($5000) as a MOPO buddy I just hate to see someone look so foolish.. freeman fisher On Jun 21, 2012, at 7:33 AM, Geraldine Kudaka wrote: We've decided to put up our own auctions. Will be announcing posters later, but thought the avid Alien collector might be interested in this ebay item. Based on the successful marketing of Star Wars, Charley Lippincott was hired by Johnny Friedkin / Fox to market Alien. This ebay auction is for a rare photo booklet made for Fox's studio heads. ebay listing 290731119615 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced
I have similar ring binder books for Willow and for Chariots of Fire. I may even have more than one each and I may even have others it's obvious that some are just photographic prints, while others look like they were printed editions At 10:59 AM 6/21/2012, Freeman Fisher wrote: Geraldine, Your description of this ALIEN booklet is not accurate. These booklets were sent out to exhibitor owners and execs. Back in the 1970's there still existed numerous blind bid states. I worked in Texas and it was the most extreme example given the sizes of Houston, Dallas, Fort Worth, San Antonio and Austin and the money those markets represented Blind bidding was when a theatre chain had to commit to a film, sometimes a year in advance, with terms outlined (1st two weeks at 70% 2nd two weeks at 60% etc.) and frequently putting up at times tens of thousands if not all together 100's of thousands of dollars on the blockbusters WITHOUT EVER SEEING A SCRAP OF FILM. So these booklets were sent out prior to bidding and came in all kinds of formats.some just a couple of fold out pages to nice booklets with on set photography. If my memory isn't completely failing, I recall booklets on STAR WARS, ALIEN, BLADE RUNNER, APOCALYPSE NOW, WILLOW, OUTLAND, EXCALIBUR and a few others that were really impressive. Others like ET (at the time called A BOY'S LIFE) were just gate folded brochures (no picture of ET for sure that was such a huge secret). Same with RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK, CLASH OF THE TITANS, etc. etc. And then some were just a single printed sheet saying who starred, produced and directed. (Can you imagine buying a car with a tarp over it and being given just a description and some art, commit to it, and not expect delivery for 9 to 12 months...that was blind bidding!) Anyway to say only 30 were made is preposterous. Just in Texas alone there had to be at least 25 to 35 theatre chains, each film buyer and marketing guy receiving a copy. In the theatre chain I worked at, we usually would receive four to five and we were only in San Antonio. Now multiply those number by triple (or more) to accommodate the personnel at circuits like Plitt, AMC, General Cinema, United Artists, Mann, and you can see the numbers required approach a 1000 in no time. Plus certain critics at the major National News agencies received copies on occasion. Also a little common sense is in order. Once a brochure is on the printing press, or photos being printed and spiral bound, do you honestly think under 30 would be printed? Because once on the presses it almost as cheap to print several thousand as it is 20. The $$ are in the set-up. These pieces were not dissimilar to the Studio Release books from the 1930's that pop up frequently. So while it makes for great Ebay copy to limit their numbers to generate a false sense of scarcity. This is not the case with these marketing tools. Whether they have ever been in an auction or not is irrelevant. While you can ask whatever price you like, ($5000) as a MOPO buddy I just hate to see someone look so foolish.. freeman fisher On Jun 21, 2012, at 7:33 AM, Geraldine Kudaka wrote: We've decided to put up our own auctions. Will be announcing posters later, but thought the avid Alien collector might be interested in this ebay item. Based on the successful marketing of Star Wars, Charley Lippincott was hired by Johnny Friedkin / Fox to market Alien. This ebay auction is for a rare photo booklet made for Fox's studio heads. ebay listing 290731119615 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
