[MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?
I know it's not really about posters, but I haven't read anything here about the Oscars, so I wondered if any others share my puzzlement over exactly what the criteria for 'best film' is? Apart from the big one *12 Years A Slave * won 2 other Oscars, while *Gravity *won 7 awards, including best director. Surely that must be a win on points for *Gravity*? Ellen joked that either *12 Years *would win or else the Academy was racist, and I suspect that the Afro-American dimension did, in fact, contribute to the end decision. Racism does not necessarily have to express itself as hatred, but it is not particularly edifying to see it expressed in a patronising way either. I was saddened to see the great actor Sidney Poitier trundled out to receive what was, given the occasion, something like a pat on the head for his career and being the first black actor to win an Oscar for Best Actor, and am I being in overly critical in the Academy then having Will Smith present the Best Film award? There is no doubt that Hollywood, like the rest of the USA, can have its conscience tugged when it comes to the treatment of the Afro-American community. *Birth of a Nation *is hardly an advert for multi-cultural harmony, and movies like the Marx Brothers *A Day At The Races *have scenes which sit uncomfortably with present day attitudes. Maybe the Academy felt some atonement was due for the failure of *The Color Purple *to win any awards? Anyway, as a non-American I may have a jaundiced view which is not shared by others, but I am interested in finding out what the views of MOPO subscribers are. Tommy Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?
One thing I am certain of is that if you are a fan of the Ellen TV show, then you surely liked the Oscar telecast. And if you like watching people pat themselves and their peers on the back, you were surely in hog heaven. I know I am getting really old, because I think the modern stars can't hold a candle to the stars of the 1920s to 1960s. I always hated those production numbers. I would SO rather see old-time stars, and not just given a second and then shuffled off stage. How about clips of classic movies that DON'T last three seconds each? On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Tommy Barr tommymb...@gmail.com wrote: I know it's not really about posters, but I haven't read anything here about the Oscars, so I wondered if any others share my puzzlement over exactly what the criteria for 'best film' is? Apart from the big one *12 Years A Slave * won 2 other Oscars, while *Gravity *won 7 awards, including best director. Surely that must be a win on points for *Gravity*? Ellen joked that either *12 Years *would win or else the Academy was racist, and I suspect that the Afro-American dimension did, in fact, contribute to the end decision. Racism does not necessarily have to express itself as hatred, but it is not particularly edifying to see it expressed in a patronising way either. I was saddened to see the great actor Sidney Poitier trundled out to receive what was, given the occasion, something like a pat on the head for his career and being the first black actor to win an Oscar for Best Actor, and am I being in overly critical in the Academy then having Will Smith present the Best Film award? There is no doubt that Hollywood, like the rest of the USA, can have its conscience tugged when it comes to the treatment of the Afro-American community. *Birth of a Nation *is hardly an advert for multi-cultural harmony, and movies like the Marx Brothers *A Day At The Races *have scenes which sit uncomfortably with present day attitudes. Maybe the Academy felt some atonement was due for the failure of *The Color Purple *to win any awards? Anyway, as a non-American I may have a jaundiced view which is not shared by others, but I am interested in finding out what the views of MOPO subscribers are. Tommy Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 29 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site http://www.emovieposter.com/ our auctions http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html * Complete Buyer Protection http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/20120625ad_emovieposter_no_buyer_beware_buyer_warranty.jpg - *No time limit on our guarantees *NO* buyer beware * Hershenson Help Hotline http://www.emovieposter.com/images/announcements/20120906_mcw_ad_hershenson_help_hotline_forsite.jpg - *Direct line to Bruce (our owner!) for urgent problems Also, please read the following three pages of in-depth* Customer Reviews *of our company * - Page 1 http://www.emovieposter.com/images/announcements/buyerreviews_page1.jpg, Page 2 http://www.emovieposter.com/images/announcements/buyerreviews_page2.jpg, Page 3 http://www.emovieposter.com/images/announcements/buyerreviews_page3.jpg*, which shows you in our customers' own words exactly what makes our company and our auctions so very different from all others! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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You're damned if you do and damned if you don't... Zeev From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Tommy Barr Sent: March 4, 2014 7:47 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [Bulk] [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment? I know it's not really about posters, but I haven't read anything here about the Oscars, so I wondered if any others share my puzzlement over exactly what the criteria for 'best film' is? Apart from the big one 12 Years A Slave won 2 other Oscars, while Gravity won 7 awards, including best director. Surely that must be a win on points for Gravity? Ellen joked that either 12 Years would win or else the Academy was racist, and I suspect that the Afro-American dimension did, in fact, contribute to the end decision. Racism does not necessarily have to express itself as hatred, but it is not particularly edifying to see it expressed in a patronising way either. I was saddened to see the great actor Sidney Poitier trundled out to receive what was, given the occasion, something like a pat on the head for his career and being the first black actor to win an Oscar for Best Actor, and am I being in overly critical in the Academy then having Will Smith present the Best Film award? There is no doubt that Hollywood, like the rest of the USA, can have its conscience tugged when it comes to the treatment of the Afro-American community. Birth of a Nation is hardly an advert for multi-cultural harmony, and movies like the Marx Brothers A Day At The Races have scenes which sit uncomfortably with present day attitudes. Maybe the Academy felt some atonement was due for the failure of The Color Purple to win any awards? Anyway, as a non-American I may have a jaundiced view which is not shared by others, but I am interested in finding out what the views of MOPO subscribers are. Tommy Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Ain’t it tha truth? AIN’T IT THE TRUTH? On Mar 4, 2014, at 8:33 AM, Zeev Drach lobb...@rogers.com wrote: “You’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t”……. Zeev From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Tommy Barr Sent: March 4, 2014 7:47 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [Bulk] [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment? I know it’s not really about posters, but I haven’t read anything here about the Oscars, so I wondered if any others share my puzzlement over exactly what the criteria for ‘best film’ is? Apart from the big one 12 Years A Slave won 2 other Oscars, while Gravity won 7 awards, including best director. Surely that must be a win on points for Gravity? Ellen joked that either 12 Years would win or else the Academy was racist, and I suspect that the Afro-American dimension did, in fact, contribute to the end decision. Racism does not necessarily have to express itself as hatred, but it is not particularly edifying to see it expressed in a patronising way either. I was saddened to see the great actor Sidney Poitier trundled out to receive what was, given the occasion, something like a pat on the head for his career and being the first black actor to win an Oscar for Best Actor, and am I being in overly critical in the Academy then having Will Smith present the Best Film award? There is no doubt that Hollywood, like the rest of the USA, can have its conscience tugged when it comes to the treatment of the Afro-American community. Birth of a Nation is hardly an advert for multi-cultural harmony, and movies like the Marx Brothers A Day At The Races have scenes which sit uncomfortably with present day attitudes. Maybe the Academy felt some atonement was due for the failure of The Color Purple to win any awards? Anyway, as a non-American I may have a jaundiced view which is not shared by others, but I am interested in finding out what the views of MOPO subscribers are. Tommy Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american..edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?
My instinctive reaction re modern stars is the same as yours, but after thinking a moment you realize that for a good chunk of viewers, if not the majority, Robert De Niro IS an old-time star! Anybody prior is a vaguely familiar. All this means is that some of us, like you yourself suggested, are getting really old! Zeev From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: March 4, 2014 8:14 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment? One thing I am certain of is that if you are a fan of the Ellen TV show, then you surely liked the Oscar telecast. And if you like watching people pat themselves and their peers on the back, you were surely in hog heaven. I know I am getting really old, because I think the modern stars can't hold a candle to the stars of the 1920s to 1960s. I always hated those production numbers. I would SO rather see old-time stars, and not just given a second and then shuffled off stage. How about clips of classic movies that DON'T last three seconds each? On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Tommy Barr tommymb...@gmail.com wrote: I know it's not really about posters, but I haven't read anything here about the Oscars, so I wondered if any others share my puzzlement over exactly what the criteria for 'best film' is? Apart from the big one 12 Years A Slave won 2 other Oscars, while Gravity won 7 awards, including best director. Surely that must be a win on points for Gravity? Ellen joked that either 12 Years would win or else the Academy was racist, and I suspect that the Afro-American dimension did, in fact, contribute to the end decision. Racism does not necessarily have to express itself as hatred, but it is not particularly edifying to see it expressed in a patronising way either. I was saddened to see the great actor Sidney Poitier trundled out to receive what was, given the occasion, something like a pat on the head for his career and being the first black actor to win an Oscar for Best Actor, and am I being in overly critical in the Academy then having Will Smith present the Best Film award? There is no doubt that Hollywood, like the rest of the USA, can have its conscience tugged when it comes to the treatment of the Afro-American community. Birth of a Nation is hardly an advert for multi-cultural harmony, and movies like the Marx Brothers A Day At The Races have scenes which sit uncomfortably with present day attitudes. Maybe the Academy felt some atonement was due for the failure of The Color Purple to win any awards? Anyway, as a non-American I may have a jaundiced view which is not shared by others, but I am interested in finding out what the views of MOPO subscribers are. Tommy Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 29 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site http://www.emovieposter.com/ our auctions http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html http://www.emovieposter.com/images/announcements/unparalled_customer_servic e.png Complete Buyer Protection http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/20120625ad_emovieposter_no_buyer_beware_ buyer_warranty.jpg - No time limit on our guarantees NO buyer beware Hershenson Help Hotline http://www.emovieposter.com/images/announcements/20120906_mcw_ad_hershenson _help_hotline_forsite.jpg - Direct line to Bruce (our owner!) for urgent problems Also, please read the following three pages of in-depth Customer Reviews of our company - Page 1 http://www.emovieposter.com/images/announcements/buyerreviews_page1.jpg , Page 2 http://www.emovieposter.com/images/announcements/buyerreviews_page2.jpg , Page 3 http://www.emovieposter.com/images/announcements/buyerreviews_page3.jpg , which shows you in our customers' own words exactly what makes our company and our auctions so very different from all others! http://www.emovieposter.com/images/announcements/bruce01.jpg Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
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There was a time when the Academy celebrated the magic of the movies, both past AND present. That's clearly not the case these days. The only salute to Hollywood's past was the Oz tribute-but they didn't think enough of Garland's offspring to even bring them up on stage. Couldn't the last surviving Munchkin, Jerry Maren make an appearance? Nothing against Pink, but what relevance to Oz did she have? Major missed opportunity Academy! It seemed to me that no one in the audience even recognized Kim Novak (please no plastic surgery jokes). No standing ovation for this star of the 50's/60's? There's no excuse for anyone in the movie biz not having ever seen Vertigo or Picnic. And no tribute to Shirley Temple? Come on. Even those members of new Hollywood must have watched a few Temple films when they were growing up. Of course my beef about classic stars goes beyond the Oscars. Entertainment Weekly puts Phillip Seymour Hoffman on the cover when he kills himself via a drug overdose, yet arguably the biggest star of the 1930's gets no mention on the cover at all? She did get 2 pages inside, but I was surprised they gave her even that much space. Even when I was in my 20's and watching the Oscars, I always enjoyed seeing the classic stars who had dropped out of the limelight. I enjoyed the honorary Oscar presentation and even the Jean Hersholt award .now such honors have been moved off the Oscar telecast completely. Not to diss the younger generation, but the world did exist before you were born and there are people and events worth knowing about. I work with some people who's pop culture knowledge only reaches back as far as the Alf TV show in the 1990's. Scary!!! Scott MoPo List Owner From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Zeev Drach Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:47 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment? My instinctive reaction re modern stars is the same as yours, but after thinking a moment you realize that for a good chunk of viewers, if not the majority, Robert De Niro IS an old-time star! Anybody prior is a vaguely familiar. All this means is that some of us, like you yourself suggested, are getting really old! Zeev From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: March 4, 2014 8:14 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment? One thing I am certain of is that if you are a fan of the Ellen TV show, then you surely liked the Oscar telecast. And if you like watching people pat themselves and their peers on the back, you were surely in hog heaven. I know I am getting really old, because I think the modern stars can't hold a candle to the stars of the 1920s to 1960s. I always hated those production numbers. I would SO rather see old-time stars, and not just given a second and then shuffled off stage. How about clips of classic movies that DON'T last three seconds each? On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Tommy Barr tommymb...@gmail.com wrote: I know it's not really about posters, but I haven't read anything here about the Oscars, so I wondered if any others share my puzzlement over exactly what the criteria for 'best film' is? Apart from the big one 12 Years A Slave won 2 other Oscars, while Gravity won 7 awards, including best director. Surely that must be a win on points for Gravity? Ellen joked that either 12 Years would win or else the Academy was racist, and I suspect that the Afro-American dimension did, in fact, contribute to the end decision. Racism does not necessarily have to express itself as hatred, but it is not particularly edifying to see it expressed in a patronising way either. I was saddened to see the great actor Sidney Poitier trundled out to receive what was, given the occasion, something like a pat on the head for his career and being the first black actor to win an Oscar for Best Actor, and am I being in overly critical in the Academy then having Will Smith present the Best Film award? There is no doubt that Hollywood, like the rest of the USA, can have its conscience tugged when it comes to the treatment of the Afro-American community. Birth of a Nation is hardly an advert for multi-cultural harmony, and movies like the Marx Brothers A Day At The Races have scenes which sit uncomfortably with present day attitudes. Maybe the Academy felt some atonement was due for the failure of The Color Purple to win any awards? Anyway, as a non-American I may have a jaundiced view which is not shared by others, but I am interested in finding out what the views of MOPO subscribers are. Tommy Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF
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What's Alf? On a more serious note, I felt the reaction to Kim Novak was painful and cruel and left me feeling down for a couple of days. I didn't like the overall tone of the Awards this year. I'd like to see a little more focus on film history and the people that made the industry great as well as a return to it being presented as an Academy and not a celebrity roast. Channing Thomson On Mar 4, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Scott Burns s...@columbus.rr.com wrote: There was a time when the Academy celebrated the magic of the movies, both past AND present. That’s clearly not the case these days. The only “salute” to Hollywood’s past was the Oz tribute—but they didn’t think enough of Garland’s offspring to even bring them up on stage. Couldn’t the last surviving Munchkin, Jerry Maren make an appearance? Nothing against Pink, but what relevance to Oz did she have? Major missed opportunity Academy! It seemed to me that no one in the audience even recognized Kim Novak (please no plastic surgery jokes). No standing ovation for this star of the 50’s/60’s? There’s no excuse for anyone in the movie biz not having ever seen “Vertigo” or “Picnic.” And no tribute to Shirley Temple? Come on. Even those members of “new Hollywood” must have watched a few Temple films when they were growing up. Of course my beef about classic stars goes beyond the Oscars. Entertainment Weekly puts Phillip Seymour Hoffman on the cover when he kills himself via a drug overdose, yet arguably the biggest star of the 1930’s gets no mention on the cover at all? She did get 2 pages inside, but I was surprised they gave her even that much space. Even when I was in my 20’s and watching the Oscars, I always enjoyed seeing the classic stars who had dropped out of the limelight. I enjoyed the honorary Oscar presentation and even the Jean Hersholt award …now such honors have been moved off the Oscar telecast completely. Not to diss the younger generation, but the world did exist before you were born and there are people and events worth knowing about. I work with some people who’s pop culture knowledge only reaches back as far as the “Alf” TV show in the 1990’s. Scary!!! Scott MoPo List Owner From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Zeev Drach Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:47 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment? My instinctive reaction re modern “stars” is the same as yours, but after thinking a moment you realize that for a good chunk of viewers, if not the majority, Robert De Niro IS an old-time star! Anybody prior is a vaguely familiar. All this means is that some of us, like you yourself suggested, are getting really old! Zeev From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: March 4, 2014 8:14 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment? One thing I am certain of is that if you are a fan of the Ellen TV show, then you surely liked the Oscar telecast. And if you like watching people pat themselves and their peers on the back, you were surely in hog heaven. I know I am getting really old, because I think the modern stars can't hold a candle to the stars of the 1920s to 1960s. I always hated those production numbers. I would SO rather see old-time stars, and not just given a second and then shuffled off stage. How about clips of classic movies that DON'T last three seconds each? On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Tommy Barr tommymb...@gmail.com wrote: I know it’s not really about posters, but I haven’t read anything here about the Oscars, so I wondered if any others share my puzzlement over exactly what the criteria for ‘best film’ is? Apart from the big one 12 Years A Slave won 2 other Oscars, while Gravity won 7 awards, including best director. Surely that must be a win on points for Gravity? Ellen joked that either 12 Years would win or else the Academy was racist, and I suspect that the Afro-American dimension did, in fact, contribute to the end decision. Racism does not necessarily have to express itself as hatred, but it is not particularly edifying to see it expressed in a patronising way either. I was saddened to see the great actor Sidney Poitier trundled out to receive what was, given the occasion, something like a pat on the head for his career and being the first black actor to win an Oscar for Best Actor, and am I being in overly critical in the Academy then having Will Smith present the Best Film award? There is no doubt that Hollywood, like the rest of the USA, can have its conscience tugged when it comes to the treatment of the Afro-American community. Birth of a Nation is hardly an advert for multi-cultural harmony, and movies like the Marx Brothers A Day At The Races have scenes which sit
Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment?
I have one comment. I think that the Best Picture clips were better when they used to be short scenes from the films rather than these mash-ups that they do now. Other than that I can’t really comment much about them because I missed them for the FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE! I attended a concert by The Cleveland Orchestra on Sunday night. Since the orchestra was utterly FABULOUS, I don’t feel bereft of anything. I did see the last few awards. The nominees were all in pretty good company this year. Some outstanding pictures. You people in Cleveland are lucky to have that wonderful orchestra. They played a great program at the Menuhin Festival here, including the Tchaikovsky 5th Symphony which was a tour de force. An orchestra of that dimension - is the highest - fi there is. Kirby On Mar 4, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Channing Thomson channinglylethom...@att.net wrote: What's Alf? On a more serious note, I felt the reaction to Kim Novak was painful and cruel and left me feeling down for a couple of days. I didn't like the overall tone of the Awards this year. I'd like to see a little more focus on film history and the people that made the industry great as well as a return to it being presented as an Academy and not a celebrity roast. Channing Thomson On Mar 4, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Scott Burns s...@columbus.rr.com wrote: There was a time when the Academy celebrated the magic of the movies, both past AND present. That’s clearly not the case these days. The only “salute” to Hollywood’s past was the Oz tribute—but they didn’t think enough of Garland’s offspring to even bring them up on stage. Couldn’t the last surviving Munchkin, Jerry Maren make an appearance? Nothing against Pink, but what relevance to Oz did she have? Major missed opportunity Academy! It seemed to me that no one in the audience even recognized Kim Novak (please no plastic surgery jokes). No standing ovation for this star of the 50’s/60’s? There’s no excuse for anyone in the movie biz not having ever seen “Vertigo” or “Picnic.” And no tribute to Shirley Temple? Come on. Even those members of “new Hollywood” must have watched a few Temple films when they were growing up. Of course my beef about classic stars goes beyond the Oscars. Entertainment Weekly puts Phillip Seymour Hoffman on the cover when he kills himself via a drug overdose, yet arguably the biggest star of the 1930’s gets no mention on the cover at all? She did get 2 pages inside, but I was surprised they gave her even that much space. Even when I was in my 20’s and watching the Oscars, I always enjoyed seeing the classic stars who had dropped out of the limelight. I enjoyed the honorary Oscar presentation and even the Jean Hersholt award …now such honors have been moved off the Oscar telecast completely. Not to diss the younger generation, but the world did exist before you were born and there are people and events worth knowing about. I work with some people who’s pop culture knowledge only reaches back as far as the “Alf” TV show in the 1990’s. Scary!!! Scott MoPo List Owner From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Zeev Drach Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:47 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment? My instinctive reaction re modern “stars” is the same as yours, but after thinking a moment you realize that for a good chunk of viewers, if not the majority, Robert De Niro IS an old-time star! Anybody prior is a vaguely familiar. All this means is that some of us, like you yourself suggested, are getting really old! Zeev From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: March 4, 2014 8:14 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment? One thing I am certain of is that if you are a fan of the Ellen TV show, then you surely liked the Oscar telecast. And if you like watching people pat themselves and their peers on the back, you were surely in hog heaven. I know I am getting really old, because I think the modern stars can't hold a candle to the stars of the 1920s to 1960s. I always hated those production numbers. I would SO rather see old-time stars, and not just given a second and then shuffled off stage. How about clips of classic movies that DON'T last three seconds each? On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Tommy Barr tommymb...@gmail.com wrote: I know it’s not really about posters, but I haven’t read anything here about the Oscars, so I wondered if any others share my puzzlement over exactly what the criteria for ‘best film’ is? Apart from the big one 12 Years A Slave won 2 other Oscars, while Gravity won 7 awards, including best director. Surely that must be a win on points for Gravity? Ellen joked that either 12 Years would win or else
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I agree with all that has been said about the Academy Awards.but at the risk of saying the obvious, it is really a moneymaking TV Special at its core. That is about maximizing audience size and desired demographics for advertisers. The Producers of the broadcast may be more or less successful about that during any given year, but I don't see the mandate changing. Someday there will be Production meetings arguing about whether there should be 5 seconds, 10 seconds or a 0 seconds cutaway to 80 year old Oscar winner Jennifer Lawrence. From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Channing Thomson Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:34 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment? What's Alf? On a more serious note, I felt the reaction to Kim Novak was painful and cruel and left me feeling down for a couple of days. I didn't like the overall tone of the Awards this year. I'd like to see a little more focus on film history and the people that made the industry great as well as a return to it being presented as an Academy and not a celebrity roast. Channing Thomson On Mar 4, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Scott Burns s...@columbus.rr.com mailto:s...@columbus.rr.com wrote: There was a time when the Academy celebrated the magic of the movies, both past AND present. That's clearly not the case these days. The only salute to Hollywood's past was the Oz tribute-but they didn't think enough of Garland's offspring to even bring them up on stage. Couldn't the last surviving Munchkin, Jerry Maren make an appearance? Nothing against Pink, but what relevance to Oz did she have? Major missed opportunity Academy! It seemed to me that no one in the audience even recognized Kim Novak (please no plastic surgery jokes). No standing ovation for this star of the 50's/60's? There's no excuse for anyone in the movie biz not having ever seen Vertigo or Picnic. And no tribute to Shirley Temple? Come on. Even those members of new Hollywood must have watched a few Temple films when they were growing up. Of course my beef about classic stars goes beyond the Oscars. Entertainment Weekly puts Phillip Seymour Hoffman on the cover when he kills himself via a drug overdose, yet arguably the biggest star of the 1930's gets no mention on the cover at all? She did get 2 pages inside, but I was surprised they gave her even that much space. Even when I was in my 20's and watching the Oscars, I always enjoyed seeing the classic stars who had dropped out of the limelight. I enjoyed the honorary Oscar presentation and even the Jean Hersholt award .now such honors have been moved off the Oscar telecast completely. Not to diss the younger generation, but the world did exist before you were born and there are people and events worth knowing about. I work with some people who's pop culture knowledge only reaches back as far as the Alf TV show in the 1990's. Scary!!! Scott MoPo List Owner From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo- mailto:l...@listserv.american.edu l...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Zeev Drach Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:47 AM To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment? My instinctive reaction re modern stars is the same as yours, but after thinking a moment you realize that for a good chunk of viewers, if not the majority, Robert De Niro IS an old-time star! Anybody prior is a vaguely familiar. All this means is that some of us, like you yourself suggested, are getting really old! Zeev From: MoPo List [ mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: March 4, 2014 8:14 AM To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment? One thing I am certain of is that if you are a fan of the Ellen TV show, then you surely liked the Oscar telecast. And if you like watching people pat themselves and their peers on the back, you were surely in hog heaven. I know I am getting really old, because I think the modern stars can't hold a candle to the stars of the 1920s to 1960s. I always hated those production numbers. I would SO rather see old-time stars, and not just given a second and then shuffled off stage. How about clips of classic movies that DON'T last three seconds each? On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Tommy Barr mailto:tommymb...@gmail.com tommymb...@gmail.com wrote: I know it's not really about posters, but I haven't read anything here about the Oscars, so I wondered if any others share my puzzlement over exactly what the criteria for 'best film' is? Apart from the big one 12 Years A Slave won 2 other Oscars, while Gravity won 7 awards, including best director. Surely that must be a win on points for Gravity? Ellen joked that either 12 Years would win or else the Academy was racist, and I
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Kirby's comment actually highlights one of the differences between today's film editing techniques and the old techniques: today's films - particularly those by Zach Snyder for instance - are overloaded with staccato 15 frame edits to force visual action. You hardly see what the camera setup was. This would be unlike the long orations of a few seconds or longer, or the focus on a star's face for many seconds of course, add the staccato edits to low lighting techniques used commonly today and you always have a feeling you missed lots of imagery it makes sense that the current audience is more interested in these fast clips than a 3.5 minute Kubrick take as in Paths of Glory or the one by Welles at the beginning of Touch of Evil is it progress? that's for the historians to pronouce down the road Rich At 11:40 AM 3/4/2014, Kirby McDaniel wrote: I have one comment. I think that the Best Picture clips were better when they used to be short scenes from the films rather than these mash-ups that they do now. Other than that I cant really comment much about them because I missed them for the FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE! I attended a concert by The Cleveland Orchestra on Sunday night. Since the orchestra was utterly FABULOUS, I dont feel bereft of anything. I did see the last few awards. The nominees were all in pretty good company this year. Some outstanding pictures. You people in Cleveland are lucky to have that wonderful orchestra. They played a great program at the Menuhin Festival here, including the Tchaikovsky 5th Symphony which was a tour de force. An orchestra of that dimension - is the highest - fi there is. Kirby On Mar 4, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Channing Thomson mailto:channinglylethom...@att.netchanninglylethom...@att.net wrote: What's Alf? On a more serious note, I felt the reaction to Kim Novak was painful and cruel and left me feeling down for a couple of days. I didn't like the overall tone of the Awards this year. I'd like to see a little more focus on film history and the people that made the industry great as well as a return to it being presented as an Academy and not a celebrity roast. Channing Thomson On Mar 4, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Scott Burns mailto:s...@columbus.rr.coms...@columbus.rr.com wrote: There was a time when the Academy celebrated the magic of the movies, both past AND present. Thats clearly not the case these days. The only salute to Hollywoods past was the Oz tributebut they didnt think enough of Garlands offspring to even bring them up on stage. Couldnt the last surviving Munchkin, Jerry Maren make an appearance? Nothing against Pink, but what relevance to Oz did she have? Major missed opportunity Academy! It seemed to me that no one in the audience even recognized Kim Novak (please no plastic surgery jokes). No standing ovation for this star of the 50s/60s? Theres no excuse for anyone in the movie biz not having ever seen Vertigo or Picnic. And no tribute to Shirley Temple? Come on. Even those members of new Hollywood must have watched a few Temple films when they were growing up. Of course my beef about classic stars goes beyond the Oscars. Entertainment Weekly puts Phillip Seymour Hoffman on the cover when he kills himself via a drug overdose, yet arguably the biggest star of the 1930s gets no mention on the cover at all? She did get 2 pages inside, but I was surprised they gave her even that much space. Even when I was in my 20s and watching the Oscars, I always enjoyed seeing the classic stars who had dropped out of the limelight. I enjoyed the honorary Oscar presentation and even the Jean Hersholt award now such honors have been moved off the Oscar telecast completely. Not to diss the younger generation, but the world did exist before you were born and there are people and events worth knowing about. I work with some people whos pop culture knowledge only reaches back as far as the Alf TV show in the 1990s. Scary!!! Scott MoPo List Owner From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Zeev Drach Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:47 AM To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUMoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment? My instinctive reaction re modern stars is the same as yours, but after thinking a moment you realize that for a good chunk of viewers, if not the majority, Robert De Niro IS an old-time star! Anybody prior is a vaguely familiar. All this means is that some of us, like you yourself suggested, are getting really old! Zeev From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: March 4, 2014 8:14 AM To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUMoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment? One thing I am certain of is that if you are a fan of the Ellen TV
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Those clips could not have been longer than two minutes if that. It would be interesting to know whether The Academy has those clips archived. I still remember the one from BEN HUR. Am I wrong — or did they have those clips for the Best Actor / Best Actress awards too? K. On Mar 4, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com wrote: Kirby's comment actually highlights one of the differences between today's film editing techniques and the old techniques: today's films - particularly those by Zach Snyder for instance - are overloaded with staccato 15 frame edits to force visual action. You hardly see what the camera setup was. This would be unlike the long orations of a few seconds or longer, or the focus on a star's face for many seconds of course, add the staccato edits to low lighting techniques used commonly today and you always have a feeling you missed lots of imagery it makes sense that the current audience is more interested in these fast clips than a 3.5 minute Kubrick take as in Paths of Glory or the one by Welles at the beginning of Touch of Evil is it progress? that's for the historians to pronouce down the road Rich At 11:40 AM 3/4/2014, Kirby McDaniel wrote: I have one comment. I think that the Best Picture clips were better when they used to be short scenes from the films rather than these mash-ups that they do now. Other than that I can’t really comment much about them because I missed them for the FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE! I attended a concert by The Cleveland Orchestra on Sunday night. Since the orchestra was utterly FABULOUS, I don’t feel bereft of anything. I did see the last few awards. The nominees were all in pretty good company this year. Some outstanding pictures. You people in Cleveland are lucky to have that wonderful orchestra. They played a great program at the Menuhin Festival here, including the Tchaikovsky 5th Symphony which was a tour de force. An orchestra of that dimension - is the highest - fi there is. Kirby On Mar 4, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Channing Thomson channinglylethom...@att.net wrote: What's Alf? On a more serious note, I felt the reaction to Kim Novak was painful and cruel and left me feeling down for a couple of days. I didn't like the overall tone of the Awards this year. I'd like to see a little more focus on film history and the people that made the industry great as well as a return to it being presented as an Academy and not a celebrity roast. Channing Thomson On Mar 4, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Scott Burns s...@columbus.rr.com wrote: There was a time when the Academy celebrated the magic of the movies, both past AND present. That’s clearly not the case these days. The only “salute” to Hollywood’s past was the Oz tribute—but they didn’t think enough of Garland’s offspring to even bring them up on stage. Couldn’t the last surviving Munchkin, Jerry Maren make an appearance? Nothing against Pink, but what relevance to Oz did she have? Major missed opportunity Academy! It seemed to me that no one in the audience even recognized Kim Novak (please no plastic surgery jokes). No standing ovation for this star of the 50’s/60’s? There’s no excuse for anyone in the movie biz not having ever seen “Vertigo” or “Picnic.” And no tribute to Shirley Temple? Come on. Even those members of “new Hollywood” must have watched a few Temple films when they were growing up. Of course my beef about classic stars goes beyond the Oscars. Entertainment Weekly puts Phillip Seymour Hoffman on the cover when he kills himself via a drug overdose, yet arguably the biggest star of the 1930’s gets no mention on the cover at all? She did get 2 pages inside, but I was surprised they gave her even that much space. Even when I was in my 20’s and watching the Oscars, I always enjoyed seeing the classic stars who had dropped out of the limelight. I enjoyed the honorary Oscar presentation and even the Jean Hersholt award …now such honors have been moved off the Oscar telecast completely. Not to diss the younger generation, but the world did exist before you were born and there are people and events worth knowing about. I work with some people who’s pop culture knowledge only reaches back as far as the “Alf” TV show in the 1990’s. Scary!!! Scott MoPo List Owner From: MoPo List [ mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Zeev Drach Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:47 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment? My instinctive reaction re modern “stars” is the same as yours, but after thinking a moment you realize that for a good chunk of viewers, if not the majority, Robert De Niro IS an old-time star! Anybody prior is a vaguely familiar. All this means is that some of us, like you yourself suggested, are getting really
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(please no plastic surgery jokes). No standing ovation for this star of the 50’s/60’s? There’s no excuse for anyone in the movie biz not having ever seen “Vertigo” or “Picnic.” And no tribute to Shirley Temple? Come on. Even those members of “new Hollywood” must have watched a few Temple films when they were growing up. Of course my beef about classic stars goes beyond the Oscars. Entertainment Weekly puts Phillip Seymour Hoffman on the cover when he kills himself via a drug overdose, yet arguably the biggest star of the 1930’s gets no mention on the cover at all? She did get 2 pages inside, but I was surprised they gave her even that much space. Even when I was in my 20’s and watching the Oscars, I always enjoyed seeing the classic stars who had dropped out of the limelight. I enjoyed the honorary Oscar presentation and even the Jean Hersholt award …now such honors have been moved off the Oscar telecast completely. Not to diss the younger generation, but the world did exist before you were born and there are people and events worth knowing about. I work with some people who’s pop culture knowledge only reaches back as far as the “Alf” TV show in the 1990’s. Scary!!! Scott MoPo List Owner From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Zeev Drach Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 9:47 AM To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment? My instinctive reaction re modern “stars” is the same as yours, but after thinking a moment you realize that for a good chunk of viewers, if not the majority, Robert De Niro IS an old-time star! Anybody prior is a vaguely familiar. All this means is that some of us, like you yourself suggested, are getting really old! Zeev From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: March 4, 2014 8:14 AM To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment? One thing I am certain of is that if you are a fan of the Ellen TV show, then you surely liked the Oscar telecast. And if you like watching people pat themselves and their peers on the back, you were surely in hog heaven. I know I am getting really old, because I think the modern stars can't hold a candle to the stars of the 1920s to 1960s. I always hated those production numbers. I would SO rather see old-time stars, and not just given a second and then shuffled off stage. How about clips of classic movies that DON'T last three seconds each? On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Tommy Barr tommymb...@gmail.com wrote: I know it’s not really about posters, but I haven’t read anything here about the Oscars, so I wondered if any others share my puzzlement over exactly what the criteria for ‘best film’ is? Apart from the big one 12 Years A Slave won 2 other Oscars, while Gravity won 7 awards, including best director. Surely that must be a win on points for Gravity? Ellen joked that either 12 Years would win or else the Academy was racist, and I suspect that the Afro-American dimension did, in fact, contribute to the end decision. Racism does not necessarily have to express itself as hatred, but it is not particularly edifying to see it expressed in a patronising way either. I was saddened to see the great actor Sidney Poitier trundled out to receive what was, given the occasion, something like a pat on the head for his career and being the first black actor to win an Oscar for Best Actor, and am I being in overly critical in the Academy then having Will Smith present the Best Film award? There is no doubt that Hollywood, like the rest of the USA, can have its conscience tugged when it comes to the treatment of the Afro-American community. Birth of a Nation is hardly an advert for multi-cultural harmony, and movies like the Marx Brothers A Day At The Races have scenes which sit uncomfortably with present day attitudes. Maybe the Academy felt some atonement was due for the failure of The Color Purple to win any awards? Anyway, as a non-American I may have a jaundiced view which is not shared by others, but I am interested in finding out what the views of MOPO subscribers are. Tommy Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.com/ ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 29 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site our auctions Complete Buyer Protection - No time limit on our guarantees NO buyer beware Hershenson Help Hotline - Direct line to Bruce (our owner!) for urgent problems Also, please read the following three pages of in-depthCustomer
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Hey folks from a viewpoint of motion picture fan and all the nostalgia associted.. I thought when Ellen had pizze delivered it was a big cultual statementsee... I think the days of old have passed.and to see people like scorsese and Pitt eating Pizzas in Tuxes showed that the Glamour years of Hollywood are a menory,, these Kids and peopel just are not the same.. or think the same. which is Ok... as it was a period we where lucking to even see on film or in photos,,, But today people are thinking more modest living..and so much is casual... as far as etiquite well archabald Leach has passed away... the rat packs vegas fun is gone..the many femmgattles or screen queens are very few..IMHO... they have forgotten already the many that Formed Hollywood as we saw it from the teens to say 80s...after theytook out the Picture palaces and Ballyhoo of film promotion with lavish theater interiors and exteriors and the grand exhibition and highly skilled Film projectionists its really like a cheap automatic laundry and why with high costs and digital prints that are just an excuse to ctrank up the volume and create video games o n screen its all gone.. sure a few get through but its either recanned stuff and more selected to deomgraphic which are KIds,,, not old movie buffs,,, as far as the Oscars... Its was sad for me to see the few older stars be made fun of,,, and most of the peopel I was not familier with... special effects are great but now seem like 80% if te story the novie poster art is almost all gone also as most people preder a trailer now on the net,,, the popcorn is way overpriced and the overall mood of the industry is to make blockbuster comic book films... why?? because your average movie lover wants.. Horror, shootem up crime, and action... and a few watch small venue art films... its been going this way since the 1960s really,,, because of production costa and public interet the good news is the Pizza guy at the oscars has been busy,,, so that sums up my take,,,next year they should drop the Tuxes and wear bermuda shorts and they will be all set and same more money, I like ever one liked the respect the Oscars gave the starts of Hollywood... But when I consider who they are now.. there are not as many as we had over the years that have stood out..perhaps it will improve But most of the theaters around here have closed.. so the experience of movie going is not what it was..the costs of heat and air and a crew and all and cost to project are just overwhelmingIMHO Original Message From: channinglylethom...@att.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - a slave to sentiment? Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 10:34:04 -0800 What's Alf? On a more serious note, I felt the reaction to Kim Novak was painful and cruel and left me feeling down for a couple of days. I didn't like the overall tone of the Awards this year. I'd like to see a little more focus on film history and the people that made the industry great as well as a return to it being presented as an Academy and not a celebrity roast. Channing Thomson On Mar 4, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Scott Burns s...@columbus.rr.com wrote: There was a time when the Academy celebrated the magic of the movies, both past AND present. Thats clearly not the case these days. The only salute to Hollywoods past was the Oz tributebut they didnt think enough of Garlands offspring to even bring them up on stage. Couldnt the last surviving Munchkin, Jerry Maren make an appearance? Nothing against Pink, but what relevance to Oz did she have? Major missed opportunity Academy! It seemed to me that no one in the audience even recognized Kim Novak (please no plastic surgery jokes). No standing ovation for this star of the 50s/60s? Theres no excuse for anyone in the movie biz not having ever seen Vertigo or Picnic. And no tribute to Shirley Temple? Come on. Even those members of new Hollywood must have watched a few Temple films when they were growing up. Of course my beef about classic stars goes beyond the Oscars. Entertainment Weekly puts Phillip Seymour Hoffman on the cover when he kills himself via a drug overdose, yet arguably the biggest star of the 1930s gets no mention on the cover at all? She did get 2 pages inside, but I was surprised they gave her even that much space. Even when I was in my 20s and watching the Oscars, I always enjoyed seeing the classic stars who had dropped out of the limelight. I enjoyed the honorary Oscar presentation and even the Jean Hersholt award now such honors have been moved off the Oscar telecast completely. Not to diss the younger generation, but the world did exist before you were born and there are people and events worth knowing about. I work with some people whos pop culture knowledge only reaches back as far as the Alf TV show in the 1990s. Scary!!! Scott MoPo List Owner From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l
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Why does Susan read out the announcement as though English is her second language? R Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 19:32:01 -0800 From: slsw2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Also love watching the Oscars every year. Thanks to all who helped me find the Oscar Family Album portion of the 1997 Academy Awards. For those who are interested, the following Youtube links are of the part of that show when those who won previous awards for acting in starring and supporting roles were on stage and mentioned one at a time. A small clip of their role and each receiving the award are shown. They are alphabetical. Acting winners in Oscar Family Album Part 1 1997 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGqwXGiDw8Efeature=related Acting winners in Oscar Family Album Part 2 1997 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WlDvrqGuzA From: Steven Hill shil...@sbcglobal.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] F The Oscars Not me... I love watching the Oscars every year. -- Steven Warren Hill shil...@sbcglobal.net shil...@yahoo.com From: Greg pickmeis...@cox.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Mon, February 27, 2012 8:13:16 PM Subject: [MOPO] F The Oscars I've spent over 10 years on Mopo, and every year it's the same thing. The show sucks, everybody watches it anyway, and then whines about it the next day. Man, I LOVE to bitch, kvetch and raise my voice in righteous indignation at the mediocrity being broadcast every year, but at some point, I made the decision to (drum roll) QUIT WATCHING. I started doing this 4-5 years ago and watching a couple really, really good films instead. It's 15 hours of my life I didn't piss away, and..well, last night, I watched A STAR IS BORN which I had never seen...on TCM. Lovely movie; the color was lush, the sound wonderful, and Garland was heartbreaking. I then watched MIDNIGHT IN PARIS, which I also loved. (If I was transported back to that time, I'd immediately find where Django Reinhardt was playing, get me a big bottle of Absinthe, and settle in for some serious guitar playing while green fairies danced around my head.) Than I watched my favorite guilty pleasure, THE WALKING DEAD. (Nathalie, do NOT watch this show, sweetie. You'll be in a rubber room forever.) A pal of mine defines insanity as doing the same thing over and over and and expecting different results. Sounds like the Oscars to me. I love my MOPO pals. Stop hurting yourselves before I have to do an intervention on you. Greg Douglass Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] The Oscars
It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but *SO *familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies *THEY *like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see. Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least they used to *pretend *to care about the people who make it all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years. This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I think I will skip it next year. Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 24 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site http://www.emovieposter.com/ our auctions http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/signature/20111028Frankensteinemployeegroupphotosignature.jpg Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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well put Bruce Original Message From: brucehershen...@gmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: RE: [MOPO] The Oscars Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 06:55:41 -0600 It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but *SO *familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies *THEY *like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see. Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least they used to *pretend *to care about the people who make it all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years. This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I think I will skip it next year. Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 24 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site http://www.emovieposter.com/ our auctions http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/signature/20111028Frankensteinem ployeegroupphotosignature.jpg Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content . Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] The Oscars
What I LIKED about it this year was the emphasis on the love of movies. From the art deco movie theater backdrop to the interviews with stars about their first movie experiences and what movies mean to them, the show seemed to want to appeal to movie buffs, not just ticket buyers, and there is a difference. From what I have read, the producers finally gave up on the 16-24 demographic they have been chasing for the past 10 years and decided to focus on the older viewers who DO like older movies and movies meant for grownups. And that showed in the production. So if it seemed a little tired well, ahem, so is most of the audience. And In Memorium always features writers, editors and producers (though maybe Steve Jobs was a stretch), not just movie stars. My only criticism is, while the use of stills was appropriately sombre, the film montage they've used in the past worked much better. That said, I think they did a good job of paying tribute to those who passed... Dave - Original Message - From: Bruce Hershenson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:55 AM Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see. Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years. This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I think I will skip it next year. Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 24 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site our auctions Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] The Oscars
I found it to be one of the most boring I can remember. Even Billy Crystal seemed bored with the gig. Frankly, it has never been a particularly good show, but this was one of the least entertaining IMHO. Regards DBT http://www.linkedin.com/in/douglasbtaylor Profile From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:56 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see. Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years. This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I think I will skip it next year. Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 24 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site http://www.emovieposter.com/ our auctions http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/signature/20111028Frankensteinemployeegr oupphotosignature.jpg Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] The Oscars
Except that, unless countless other sources are wrong, including the NYT obituary, they actually misspelled Marion Dougherty's name. Anyway, I thought the show was good. Far better than last year, at the very least. -- Steven Warren Hill shil...@sbcglobal.net shil...@yahoo.com From: Posteropolis posteropo...@bell.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Mon, February 27, 2012 8:17:09 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars What I LIKED about it this year was the emphasis on the love of movies. From the art deco movie theater backdrop to the interviews with stars about their first movie experiences and what movies mean to them, the show seemed to want to appeal to movie buffs, not just ticket buyers, and there is a difference. From what I have read, the producers finally gave up on the 16-24 demographic they have been chasing for the past 10 years and decided to focus on the older viewers who DO like older movies and movies meant for grownups. And that showed in the production. So if it seemed a little tired well, ahem, so is most of the audience. And In Memorium always features writers, editors and producers (though maybe Steve Jobs was a stretch), not just movie stars. My only criticism is, while the use of stills was appropriately sombre, the film montage they've used in the past worked much better. That said, I think they did a good job of paying tribute to those who passed... Dave - Original Message - From: Bruce Hershenson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:55 AM Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see. Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years. This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I think I will skip it next year. Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 24 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site our auctions Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] The Oscars
I say why watch the Oscars when Walking Dead was on at the same time on AMC! Its a fun series and worth the watch! If you like Night of the living Dead or any of the multitude of Zombie movies that followed, I think you would love Walking Dead! Jim On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Doug Taylor douglasbtay...@hotmail.comwrote: I found it to be one of the most boring I can remember. Even Billy Crystal seemed bored with the gig. ** ** Frankly, it has never been a particularly good show, but this was one of the least entertaining IMHO. ** ** Regards ** ** DBT Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/douglasbtaylor ** ** *From:* MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Bruce Hershenson *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2012 7:56 AM *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU *Subject:* [MOPO] The Oscars ** ** It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but *SO *familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies *THEY *like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see. Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least they used to *pretend *to care about the people who make it all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years. This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I think I will skip it next year. Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 24 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site http://www.emovieposter.com/ our auctions http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html ** ** Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. -- Jim Gresham 18501 Henry Ct Ray Mi 48096 586 677-7669 www.greshamsinc.com www.childrenofthenightbook.com www.theyreherealreadybook.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] The Oscars
Steve Jobs was a stretch? No Steve Jobs = No Pixar Other than that, and from what I've seen of the ceremony, I agree with Dave and I'm pleased that the Oscars is moving away from trying to be The Teen Choice Awards. Eventually, I would like to see a presenting team of Abe Vigoda Betty White. Neil From: Posteropolis posteropo...@bell.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, 27 February 2012, 14:17 Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars What I LIKED about it this year was the emphasis on the love of movies. From the art deco movie theater backdrop to the interviews with stars about their first movie experiences and what movies mean to them, the show seemed to want to appeal to movie buffs, not just ticket buyers, and there is a difference. From what I have read, the producers finally gave up on the 16-24 demographic they have been chasing for the past 10 years and decided to focus on the older viewers who DO like older movies and movies meant for grownups. And that showed in the production. So if it seemed a little tired well, ahem, so is most of the audience. And In Memorium always features writers, editors and producers (though maybe Steve Jobs was a stretch), not just movie stars. My only criticism is, while the use of stills was appropriately sombre, the film montage they've used in the past worked much better. That said, I think they did a good job of paying tribute to those who passed... Dave - Original Message - From: Bruce Hershenson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:55 AM Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see. Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years. This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I think I will skip it next year. Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 24 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site our auctions Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Sorry to disagree, Bruce, but several of us thought that, though it wasn't the greatest, that last night's Oscar presentation at LEAST paid attention to the professionals, living and passed on, who make up the world of movies...unlike the last two years when the production tried to cater to the People's Choice and Teeny-bop Awards. We could actually see the entire audience in the beautiful theatre last night-- instead of having it decorated like a studio for a game show, complete with peanut gallerey screaming, Pick me! Sorry, but SOMEONE has to take the higher road. I believe that OSCAR needs to be that someone. There is a huge international audience for the Oscars which negates the necessity to cater to the US's Text-Sending Teeny-Set. Don't worry about them.. Michael Bay the Vampire Crew. will see to it that they are well entertained and spend lots and lots of mommy-daddy money at the concession stands...and the grownups can snooze with pleasure through an Oscar program that honors Hugo rather than Transformers. When Oscar becomes the People's Choice, excellence in film will be buried under a heap of poot jokes and CGI. Sorry if my comments seem old-fashioned, but that's the way this movie fan sees it. Joe B in NOLA PS-- I thought the awards were well-apportioned on the whole. This year was all about the Nomination being the thing--- an excellent year for film. PPS-- But the choice NOT to bestow special honors on the Potter series with it's decade-long history of excellence in everything, was unfortunate...the night's biggest failing in my estimation. Joe From: Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:55 AM Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see. Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years. This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I think I will skip it next year. Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 24 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site our auctions Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Does anyone remember the exact year during the 1990s when an Oscar portrait was done at the end of the show? Each of the winners of an acting award from previous years who was present was sitting on stage and his/her name was mentioned. Shirley Temple (sitting next to Marissa Tomei) received the strongest applaus. Shelley Winters and Teresa Wright were also there. It would be nice if that would be a part of the show every few years. From: Neil Jaworski neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars Steve Jobs was a stretch? No Steve Jobs = No Pixar Other than that, and from what I've seen of the ceremony, I agree with Dave and I'm pleased that the Oscars is moving away from trying to be The Teen Choice Awards. Eventually, I would like to see a presenting team of Abe Vigoda Betty White. Neil From: Posteropolis posteropo...@bell.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, 27 February 2012, 14:17 Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars What I LIKED about it this year was the emphasis on the love of movies. From the art deco movie theater backdrop to the interviews with stars about their first movie experiences and what movies mean to them, the show seemed to want to appeal to movie buffs, not just ticket buyers, and there is a difference. From what I have read, the producers finally gave up on the 16-24 demographic they have been chasing for the past 10 years and decided to focus on the older viewers who DO like older movies and movies meant for grownups. And that showed in the production. So if it seemed a little tired well, ahem, so is most of the audience. And In Memorium always features writers, editors and producers (though maybe Steve Jobs was a stretch), not just movie stars. My only criticism is, while the use of stills was appropriately sombre, the film montage they've used in the past worked much better. That said, I think they did a good job of paying tribute to those who passed... Dave - Original Message - From: Bruce Hershenson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:55 AM Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see. Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years. This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I think I will skip it next year. Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 24 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site our auctions Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
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Dave, I agree entirely. Joe B From: Posteropolis posteropo...@bell.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars What I LIKED about it this year was the emphasis on the love of movies. From the art deco movie theater backdrop to the interviews with stars about their first movie experiences and what movies mean to them, the show seemed to want to appeal to movie buffs, not just ticket buyers, and there is a difference. From what I have read, the producers finally gave up on the 16-24 demographic they have been chasing for the past 10 years and decided to focus on the older viewers who DO like older movies and movies meant for grownups. And that showed in the production. So if it seemed a little tired well, ahem, so is most of the audience. And In Memorium always features writers, editors and producers (though maybe Steve Jobs was a stretch), not just movie stars. My only criticism is, while the use of stills was appropriately sombre, the film montage they've used in the past worked much better. That said, I think they did a good job of paying tribute to those who passed... Dave - Original Message - From: Bruce Hershenson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:55 AM Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see. Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years. This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I think I will skip it next year. Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 24 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site our auctions Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Jim is right on target I watched the opening with Billy because I was at my sister-in-law's house and she wanted to see the opening. The most interesting thing to me was his face and why anyone would go through surgery to look like that. I was totally bored and found nothing funny. Though I must admit, I liked the Jennifer Lopez dress. I left the room and came back to see the circus act which was spectacular. Too bad it had nothing to do with the oscars. Give me the TCM channel movies anytime. CJL In a message dated 2/27/2012 9:33:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jamesalangres...@gmail.com writes: I say why watch the Oscars when Walking Dead was on at the same time on AMC! Its a fun series and worth the watch! If you like Night of the living Dead or any of the multitude of Zombie movies that followed, I think you would love Walking Dead! Jim On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Doug Taylor _douglasbtaylor@hotmail.com_ (mailto:douglasbtay...@hotmail.com) wrote: I found it to be one of the most boring I can remember. Even Billy Crystal seemed bored with the gig. Frankly, it has never been a particularly good show, but this was one of the least entertaining IMHO. Regards DBT _Profile_ (http://www.linkedin.com/in/douglasbtaylor) From: MoPo List [mailto:_mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU_ (mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU) ] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:56 AM To: _MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU_ (mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU) Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see. Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years. This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I think I will skip it next year. Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 24 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: _417-256-9616_ (tel:417-256-9616) (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) _our site_ (http://www.emovieposter.com/) _our auctions_ (http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html) Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at _www.filmfan.com_ (http://www.filmfan.com/) ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: _listserv@listserv.american.edu_ (mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edu) In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at _www.filmfan.com_ (http://www.filmfan.com/) ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: _listserv@listserv.american.edu_ (mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edu) In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. -- Jim Gresham 18501 Henry Ct Ray Mi 48096 586 677-7669 _www.greshamsinc.com_ (http://www.greshamsinc.com/) _www.childrenofthenightbook.com_ (http://www.childrenofthenightbook.com/) _www.theyreherealreadybook.com_ (http://www.theyreherealreadybook.com/) Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed
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Here we go again. Another round of Oscar-bashers! A much improved show. 1000% better than last year. Restored some organization to the proceedings, and I found Billy Crystal entertaining. Of course, the Academy voted for who THEY like; that's what they've always done. That's what we want them to do, isn't it? I don't want them voting for what the 14 year olds at the mall usually like. When they start doing that, you won't have to watch the LIVING DEAD WHATEVER because they will be them! Anyway there is the People's Choice awards for that kind of thing. I watched the Independent Spirit awards the night before and it was basically the same thing with different movies and a little less showbiz schtick. As far as the awards go, I was generally happy with all of them. But I was particularly pleased with Meryl Streep winning Best Actress for THE IRON LADY. I thought she was great in the film. And contrary to most critical reaction, I thought the movie was good too. And I was glad that RANGO won; I enjoyed that! THE ARTIST? I haven't seen it yet, but the people I know who have seem to like it a lot. So I'm headed there soon. I was glad that it did not win the screenplay award because I think a screenplay should have some dialogue. Disappointments? I am sorry that Terrence Malick's film did not win anything. I did not expect it to win. It is a remarkable piece of work. But then it joins a long list of other distinguished films that are not winners. Yet I am glad that Douglas Trumbull was honored. The special effects in THE TREE OF LIFE are, if anything, more spectacular than those in 2001. And yes, I liked the dinosaurs in that film. Whassup wi that? And the quintessential establishment film this year, MONEYBALL, a really fine commercial Hollywood film, was ignored. Anyway, if you feel like getting snarky about the Oscars, you can read Frank Bruni in the New York Times yesterday. He obviously got up on the WRONG side of the bed. One last Oscar-related tidbit. MGM will re-release BEN HUR in mid March for a few high resolution digital presentations in theaters. Kirby On Feb 27, 2012, at 8:35 AM, Neil Jaworski wrote: Steve Jobs was a stretch? No Steve Jobs = No Pixar Other than that, and from what I've seen of the ceremony, I agree with Dave and I'm pleased that the Oscars is moving away from trying to be The Teen Choice Awards. Eventually, I would like to see a presenting team of Abe Vigoda Betty White. Neil From: Posteropolis posteropo...@bell.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, 27 February 2012, 14:17 Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars What I LIKED about it this year was the emphasis on the love of movies. From the art deco movie theater backdrop to the interviews with stars about their first movie experiences and what movies mean to them, the show seemed to want to appeal to movie buffs, not just ticket buyers, and there is a difference. From what I have read, the producers finally gave up on the 16-24 demographic they have been chasing for the past 10 years and decided to focus on the older viewers who DO like older movies and movies meant for grownups. And that showed in the production. So if it seemed a little tired well, ahem, so is most of the audience. And In Memorium always features writers, editors and producers (though maybe Steve Jobs was a stretch), not just movie stars. My only criticism is, while the use of stills was appropriately sombre, the film montage they've used in the past worked much better. That said, I think they did a good job of paying tribute to those who passed... Dave - Original Message - From: Bruce Hershenson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:55 AM Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see. Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just
Re: [MOPO] The Oscars
Steve, I think they only do that during specific anniversaries, like the 50th or 60th or 75th Oscars. Be interesting to see what they do for the 100th, which isn't all that far away... Dave - Original Message - From: Steve To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars Does anyone remember the exact year during the 1990s when an Oscar portrait was done at the end of the show? Each of the winners of an acting award from previous years who was present was sitting on stage and his/her name was mentioned. Shirley Temple (sitting next to Marissa Tomei) received the strongest applaus. Shelley Winters and Teresa Wright were also there. It would be nice if that would be a part of the show every few years. From: Neil Jaworski neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars Steve Jobs was a stretch? No Steve Jobs = No Pixar Other than that, and from what I've seen of the ceremony, I agree with Dave and I'm pleased that the Oscars is moving away from trying to be The Teen Choice Awards. Eventually, I would like to see a presenting team of Abe Vigoda Betty White. Neil From: Posteropolis posteropo...@bell.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, 27 February 2012, 14:17 Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars What I LIKED about it this year was the emphasis on the love of movies. From the art deco movie theater backdrop to the interviews with stars about their first movie experiences and what movies mean to them, the show seemed to want to appeal to movie buffs, not just ticket buyers, and there is a difference. From what I have read, the producers finally gave up on the 16-24 demographic they have been chasing for the past 10 years and decided to focus on the older viewers who DO like older movies and movies meant for grownups. And that showed in the production. So if it seemed a little tired well, ahem, so is most of the audience. And In Memorium always features writers, editors and producers (though maybe Steve Jobs was a stretch), not just movie stars. My only criticism is, while the use of stills was appropriately sombre, the film montage they've used in the past worked much better. That said, I think they did a good job of paying tribute to those who passed... Dave - Original Message - From: Bruce Hershenson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:55 AM Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see. Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years. This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I think I will skip it next year. Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 24 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site our auctions Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site
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Im glad I watched The Devil is a Woman instead. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Claude Litton twoni...@aol.com Sender: MoPo List mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 10:39:01 To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Reply-To: twoni...@aol.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars Jim is right on target I watched the opening with Billy because I was at my sister-in-law's house and she wanted to see the opening. The most interesting thing to me was his face and why anyone would go through surgery to look like that. I was totally bored and found nothing funny. Though I must admit, I liked the Jennifer Lopez dress. I left the room and came back to see the circus act which was spectacular. Too bad it had nothing to do with the oscars. Give me the TCM channel movies anytime. CJL In a message dated 2/27/2012 9:33:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jamesalangres...@gmail.com writes: I say why watch the Oscars when Walking Dead was on at the same time on AMC! Its a fun series and worth the watch! If you like Night of the living Dead or any of the multitude of Zombie movies that followed, I think you would love Walking Dead! Jim On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Doug Taylor _douglasbtaylor@hotmail.com_ (mailto:douglasbtay...@hotmail.com) wrote: I found it to be one of the most boring I can remember. Even Billy Crystal seemed bored with the gig. Frankly, it has never been a particularly good show, but this was one of the least entertaining IMHO. Regards DBT _Profile_ (http://www.linkedin.com/in/douglasbtaylor) From: MoPo List [mailto:_mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU_ (mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU) ] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:56 AM To: _MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU_ (mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU) Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see. Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years. This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I think I will skip it next year. Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 24 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: _417-256-9616_ (tel:417-256-9616) (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) _our site_ (http://www.emovieposter.com/) _our auctions_ (http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html) Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at _www.filmfan.com_ (http://www.filmfan.com/) ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: _listserv@listserv.american.edu_ (mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edu) In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at _www.filmfan.com_ (http://www.filmfan.com/) ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: _listserv@listserv.american.edu_ (mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edu) In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. -- Jim Gresham 18501 Henry Ct Ray Mi 48096 586 677-7669 _www.greshamsinc.com_ (http://www.greshamsinc.com/) _www.childrenofthenightbook.com_ (http://www.childrenofthenightbook.com/) _www.theyreherealreadybook.com_ (http://www.theyreherealreadybook.com/) Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L
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I actually thought it was one of the LEAST boring Oscar telecasts I've seen in a long time but then again I record the show on my DVR and only began to watch it at around 9.30 PM EST with a remote control in my hand. By the time 11 o'clock rolled around I was completely caught up, having not listened to any of the acceptance speeches I wasn't interested in or the commercials. (You do the math on that one.) I thought Billy Crystal got it right almost all night. I thought some of the choices on the video packages were strange especially the In Memorial segment which featured almost all still photos, odd for an event celebrating motion pictures. I didn't miss having to sit through the two ghastly Best Songs but the package assembled for Best Movie of the Year was wrong-headed, intercutting the clips from the best films so that one never got a taste for any of the nine films, just a stupid idea. I wasn't too upset with the actual awards last night, although I wish Hugo had taken either Best Movie or Best Direction. I was frankly expecting an old guard backlash with the totally ordinary The Descendants and George Clooney winning top awards and I'm glad that didn't happen. I would have preferred Viola Davis or Michelle Williams rather than Meryl Streep winning for a strong performance in an absolutely ghastly film but I'm also glad Woody Allen didn't win for his latest warmed-over opus. I guess I'm mellowing. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Joseph Bonelli Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:55 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars Sorry to disagree, Bruce, but several of us thought that, though it wasn't the greatest, that last night's Oscar presentation at LEAST paid attention to the professionals, living and passed on, who make up the world of movies...unlike the last two years when the production tried to cater to the People's Choice and Teeny-bop Awards. We could actually see the entire audience in the beautiful theatre last night-- instead of having it decorated like a studio for a game show, complete with peanut gallerey screaming, Pick me! Sorry, but SOMEONE has to take the higher road. I believe that OSCAR needs to be that someone. There is a huge international audience for the Oscars which negates the necessity to cater to the US's Text-Sending Teeny-Set. Don't worry about them.. Michael Bay the Vampire Crew. will see to it that they are well entertained and spend lots and lots of mommy-daddy money at the concession stands...and the grownups can snooze with pleasure through an Oscar program that honors Hugo rather than Transformers. When Oscar becomes the People's Choice, excellence in film will be buried under a heap of poot jokes and CGI. Sorry if my comments seem old-fashioned, but that's the way this movie fan sees it. Joe B in NOLA PS-- I thought the awards were well-apportioned on the whole. This year was all about the Nomination being the thing--- an excellent year for film. PPS-- But the choice NOT to bestow special honors on the Potter series with it's decade-long history of excellence in everything, was unfortunate...the night's biggest failing in my estimation. Joe From: Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:55 AM Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see. Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years. This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I think I will skip it next year. Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 24 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site http://www.emovieposter.com/ our auctions http
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MessageFranc, Woody got Best Original Screenplay, which I thought was weird, considering what a tired idea for a movie it was. Dave - Original Message - From: Franc To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars I actually thought it was one of the LEAST boring Oscar telecasts I've seen in a long time but then again I record the show on my DVR and only began to watch it at around 9.30 PM EST with a remote control in my hand. By the time 11 o'clock rolled around I was completely caught up, having not listened to any of the acceptance speeches I wasn't interested in or the commercials. (You do the math on that one.) I thought Billy Crystal got it right almost all night. I thought some of the choices on the video packages were strange especially the In Memorial segment which featured almost all still photos, odd for an event celebrating motion pictures. I didn't miss having to sit through the two ghastly Best Songs but the package assembled for Best Movie of the Year was wrong-headed, intercutting the clips from the best films so that one never got a taste for any of the nine films, just a stupid idea. I wasn't too upset with the actual awards last night, although I wish Hugo had taken either Best Movie or Best Direction. I was frankly expecting an old guard backlash with the totally ordinary The Descendants and George Clooney winning top awards and I'm glad that didn't happen. I would have preferred Viola Davis or Michelle Williams rather than Meryl Streep winning for a strong performance in an absolutely ghastly film but I'm also glad Woody Allen didn't win for his latest warmed-over opus. I guess I'm mellowing. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Joseph Bonelli Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:55 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars Sorry to disagree, Bruce, but several of us thought that, though it wasn't the greatest, that last night's Oscar presentation at LEAST paid attention to the professionals, living and passed on, who make up the world of movies...unlike the last two years when the production tried to cater to the People's Choice and Teeny-bop Awards. We could actually see the entire audience in the beautiful theatre last night-- instead of having it decorated like a studio for a game show, complete with peanut gallerey screaming, Pick me! Sorry, but SOMEONE has to take the higher road. I believe that OSCAR needs to be that someone. There is a huge international audience for the Oscars which negates the necessity to cater to the US's Text-Sending Teeny-Set. Don't worry about them.. Michael Bay the Vampire Crew. will see to it that they are well entertained and spend lots and lots of mommy-daddy money at the concession stands...and the grownups can snooze with pleasure through an Oscar program that honors Hugo rather than Transformers. When Oscar becomes the People's Choice, excellence in film will be buried under a heap of poot jokes and CGI. Sorry if my comments seem old-fashioned, but that's the way this movie fan sees it. Joe B in NOLA PS-- I thought the awards were well-apportioned on the whole. This year was all about the Nomination being the thing--- an excellent year for film. PPS-- But the choice NOT to bestow special honors on the Potter series with it's decade-long history of excellence in everything, was unfortunate...the night's biggest failing in my estimation. Joe From: Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:55 AM Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see. Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards ceremony that sees its number
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Yes, I thought that was wierd too but at least he didn't get Best Director or Best film. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Posteropolis Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:07 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars Franc, Woody got Best Original Screenplay, which I thought was weird, considering what a tired idea for a movie it was. Dave - Original Message - From: Franc mailto:fdav...@verizon.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars I actually thought it was one of the LEAST boring Oscar telecasts I've seen in a long time but then again I record the show on my DVR and only began to watch it at around 9.30 PM EST with a remote control in my hand. By the time 11 o'clock rolled around I was completely caught up, having not listened to any of the acceptance speeches I wasn't interested in or the commercials. (You do the math on that one.) I thought Billy Crystal got it right almost all night. I thought some of the choices on the video packages were strange especially the In Memorial segment which featured almost all still photos, odd for an event celebrating motion pictures. I didn't miss having to sit through the two ghastly Best Songs but the package assembled for Best Movie of the Year was wrong-headed, intercutting the clips from the best films so that one never got a taste for any of the nine films, just a stupid idea. I wasn't too upset with the actual awards last night, although I wish Hugo had taken either Best Movie or Best Direction. I was frankly expecting an old guard backlash with the totally ordinary The Descendants and George Clooney winning top awards and I'm glad that didn't happen. I would have preferred Viola Davis or Michelle Williams rather than Meryl Streep winning for a strong performance in an absolutely ghastly film but I'm also glad Woody Allen didn't win for his latest warmed-over opus. I guess I'm mellowing. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Joseph Bonelli Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:55 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars Sorry to disagree, Bruce, but several of us thought that, though it wasn't the greatest, that last night's Oscar presentation at LEAST paid attention to the professionals, living and passed on, who make up the world of movies...unlike the last two years when the production tried to cater to the People's Choice and Teeny-bop Awards. We could actually see the entire audience in the beautiful theatre last night-- instead of having it decorated like a studio for a game show, complete with peanut gallerey screaming, Pick me! Sorry, but SOMEONE has to take the higher road. I believe that OSCAR needs to be that someone. There is a huge international audience for the Oscars which negates the necessity to cater to the US's Text-Sending Teeny-Set. Don't worry about them.. Michael Bay the Vampire Crew. will see to it that they are well entertained and spend lots and lots of mommy-daddy money at the concession stands...and the grownups can snooze with pleasure through an Oscar program that honors Hugo rather than Transformers. When Oscar becomes the People's Choice, excellence in film will be buried under a heap of poot jokes and CGI. Sorry if my comments seem old-fashioned, but that's the way this movie fan sees it. Joe B in NOLA PS-- I thought the awards were well-apportioned on the whole. This year was all about the Nomination being the thing--- an excellent year for film. PPS-- But the choice NOT to bestow special honors on the Potter series with it's decade-long history of excellence in everything, was unfortunate...the night's biggest failing in my estimation. Joe From: Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:55 AM Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see. Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those who
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Agreed. This was mid-level Woody Allen at best. I couldn't understand what the fuss was about. And the American family in that film - a bunch of right-wing bores - what a tired idea. Would have been funnier to make them American lefties more liberal than thou! Still, it wasn't entirely boring. Great shots of Paris. Who needs a star when you have Paris. We'll always have Paris, won't we? K. On Feb 27, 2012, at 10:07 AM, Posteropolis wrote: Franc, Woody got Best Original Screenplay, which I thought was weird, considering what a tired idea for a movie it was. Dave - Original Message - From: Franc To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars I actually thought it was one of the LEAST boring Oscar telecasts I've seen in a long time but then again I record the show on my DVR and only began to watch it at around 9.30 PM EST with a remote control in my hand. By the time 11 o'clock rolled around I was completely caught up, having not listened to any of the acceptance speeches I wasn't interested in or the commercials. (You do the math on that one.) I thought Billy Crystal got it right almost all night. I thought some of the choices on the video packages were strange especially the In Memorial segment which featured almost all still photos, odd for an event celebrating motion pictures. I didn't miss having to sit through the two ghastly Best Songs but the package assembled for Best Movie of the Year was wrong-headed, intercutting the clips from the best films so that one never got a taste for any of the nine films, just a stupid idea. I wasn't too upset with the actual awards last night, although I wish Hugo had taken either Best Movie or Best Direction. I was frankly expecting an old guard backlash with the totally ordinary The Descendants and George Clooney winning top awards and I'm glad that didn't happen. I would have preferred Viola Davis or Michelle Williams rather than Meryl Streep winning for a strong performance in an absolutely ghastly film but I'm also glad Woody Allen didn't win for his latest warmed-over opus. I guess I'm mellowing. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Joseph Bonelli Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:55 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars Sorry to disagree, Bruce, but several of us thought that, though it wasn't the greatest, that last night's Oscar presentation at LEAST paid attention to the professionals, living and passed on, who make up the world of movies...unlike the last two years when the production tried to cater to the People's Choice and Teeny-bop Awards. We could actually see the entire audience in the beautiful theatre last night-- instead of having it decorated like a studio for a game show, complete with peanut gallerey screaming, Pick me! Sorry, but SOMEONE has to take the higher road. I believe that OSCAR needs to be that someone. There is a huge international audience for the Oscars which negates the necessity to cater to the US's Text-Sending Teeny-Set. Don't worry about them.. Michael Bay the Vampire Crew. will see to it that they are well entertained and spend lots and lots of mommy-daddy money at the concession stands...and the grownups can snooze with pleasure through an Oscar program that honors Hugo rather than Transformers. When Oscar becomes the People's Choice, excellence in film will be buried under a heap of poot jokes and CGI. Sorry if my comments seem old-fashioned, but that's the way this movie fan sees it. Joe B in NOLA PS-- I thought the awards were well-apportioned on the whole. This year was all about the Nomination being the thing--- an excellent year for film. PPS-- But the choice NOT to bestow special honors on the Potter series with it's decade-long history of excellence in everything, was unfortunate...the night's biggest failing in my estimation. Joe From: Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:55 AM Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies THEY like
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I had just the opposite feeling. I thought it deserved screenplay, but nothing else. I seem to be the contradictory voice on all subjects today. The good news is that my opinion is worth what you've all paid for it! Regards, DBT From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Posteropolis Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:07 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars Franc, Woody got Best Original Screenplay, which I thought was weird, considering what a tired idea for a movie it was. Dave - Original Message - From: Franc mailto:fdav...@verizon.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars I actually thought it was one of the LEAST boring Oscar telecasts I've seen in a long time but then again I record the show on my DVR and only began to watch it at around 9.30 PM EST with a remote control in my hand. By the time 11 o'clock rolled around I was completely caught up, having not listened to any of the acceptance speeches I wasn't interested in or the commercials. (You do the math on that one.) I thought Billy Crystal got it right almost all night. I thought some of the choices on the video packages were strange especially the In Memorial segment which featured almost all still photos, odd for an event celebrating motion pictures. I didn't miss having to sit through the two ghastly Best Songs but the package assembled for Best Movie of the Year was wrong-headed, intercutting the clips from the best films so that one never got a taste for any of the nine films, just a stupid idea. I wasn't too upset with the actual awards last night, although I wish Hugo had taken either Best Movie or Best Direction. I was frankly expecting an old guard backlash with the totally ordinary The Descendants and George Clooney winning top awards and I'm glad that didn't happen. I would have preferred Viola Davis or Michelle Williams rather than Meryl Streep winning for a strong performance in an absolutely ghastly film but I'm also glad Woody Allen didn't win for his latest warmed-over opus. I guess I'm mellowing. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Joseph Bonelli Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:55 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars Sorry to disagree, Bruce, but several of us thought that, though it wasn't the greatest, that last night's Oscar presentation at LEAST paid attention to the professionals, living and passed on, who make up the world of movies...unlike the last two years when the production tried to cater to the People's Choice and Teeny-bop Awards. We could actually see the entire audience in the beautiful theatre last night-- instead of having it decorated like a studio for a game show, complete with peanut gallerey screaming, Pick me! Sorry, but SOMEONE has to take the higher road. I believe that OSCAR needs to be that someone. There is a huge international audience for the Oscars which negates the necessity to cater to the US's Text-Sending Teeny-Set. Don't worry about them.. Michael Bay the Vampire Crew. will see to it that they are well entertained and spend lots and lots of mommy-daddy money at the concession stands...and the grownups can snooze with pleasure through an Oscar program that honors Hugo rather than Transformers. When Oscar becomes the People's Choice, excellence in film will be buried under a heap of poot jokes and CGI. Sorry if my comments seem old-fashioned, but that's the way this movie fan sees it. Joe B in NOLA PS-- I thought the awards were well-apportioned on the whole. This year was all about the Nomination being the thing--- an excellent year for film. PPS-- But the choice NOT to bestow special honors on the Potter series with it's decade-long history of excellence in everything, was unfortunate...the night's biggest failing in my estimation. Joe From: Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:55 AM Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see. Of course
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Great shots of Paris. Who needs a star when you have Paris. We'll always have Paris, won't we? Woody Allen has almost made a point of snubbing the Academy Awards. I find it interesting that the one time he did show up, which I think was in 2002, was to talk about New York City and how it was coming back and what a great place it was to do films. At that point, I believe that Melinda Melinda and Anything Else were already both in pre-production. I don't believe he has made a movie in New York since then. Actors seem to fall all over themselves at the mere possibility of working with Woody Allen, yet it seems to me that his original ideas burnt out long ago. Maybe they just seem fresh to his next generation casts like Will Ferrel, Scarlet Johannson or Owen Wilson. - Original Message - From: Kirby McDaniel To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars Agreed. This was mid-level Woody Allen at best. I couldn't understand what the fuss was about. And the American family in that film - a bunch of right-wing bores - what a tired idea. Would have been funnier to make them American lefties more liberal than thou! Still, it wasn't entirely boring. Great shots of Paris. Who needs a star when you have Paris. We'll always have Paris, won't we? K. On Feb 27, 2012, at 10:07 AM, Posteropolis wrote: Franc, Woody got Best Original Screenplay, which I thought was weird, considering what a tired idea for a movie it was. Dave - Original Message - From: Franc To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars I actually thought it was one of the LEAST boring Oscar telecasts I've seen in a long time but then again I record the show on my DVR and only began to watch it at around 9.30 PM EST with a remote control in my hand. By the time 11 o'clock rolled around I was completely caught up, having not listened to any of the acceptance speeches I wasn't interested in or the commercials. (You do the math on that one.) I thought Billy Crystal got it right almost all night. I thought some of the choices on the video packages were strange especially the In Memorial segment which featured almost all still photos, odd for an event celebrating motion pictures. I didn't miss having to sit through the two ghastly Best Songs but the package assembled for Best Movie of the Year was wrong-headed, intercutting the clips from the best films so that one never got a taste for any of the nine films, just a stupid idea. I wasn't too upset with the actual awards last night, although I wish Hugo had taken either Best Movie or Best Direction. I was frankly expecting an old guard backlash with the totally ordinary The Descendants and George Clooney winning top awards and I'm glad that didn't happen. I would have preferred Viola Davis or Michelle Williams rather than Meryl Streep winning for a strong performance in an absolutely ghastly film but I'm also glad Woody Allen didn't win for his latest warmed-over opus. I guess I'm mellowing. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Joseph Bonelli Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:55 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars Sorry to disagree, Bruce, but several of us thought that, though it wasn't the greatest, that last night's Oscar presentation at LEAST paid attention to the professionals, living and passed on, who make up the world of movies...unlike the last two years when the production tried to cater to the People's Choice and Teeny-bop Awards. We could actually see the entire audience in the beautiful theatre last night-- instead of having it decorated like a studio for a game show, complete with peanut gallerey screaming, Pick me! Sorry, but SOMEONE has to take the higher road. I believe that OSCAR needs to be that someone. There is a huge international audience for the Oscars which negates the necessity to cater to the US's Text-Sending Teeny-Set. Don't worry about them.. Michael Bay the Vampire Crew. will see to it that they are well entertained and spend lots and lots of mommy-daddy money at the concession stands...and the grownups can snooze with pleasure through an Oscar program that honors Hugo rather than Transformers. When Oscar becomes the People's Choice, excellence in film will be buried under a heap of poot jokes and CGI. Sorry if my comments seem old-fashioned, but that's the way this movie fan sees it. Joe B in NOLA PS-- I thought the awards were well-apportioned on the whole. This year was all about the Nomination being the thing--- an excellent year for film. PPS-- But the choice NOT to bestow special honors on the Potter
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Count me in the minority (?) who enjoyed the last night's Oscar ceremony. Sorry, Kerry, MIDNIGHT IN PARIS, was my favorite film of the year. I have been watching since the very first Oscar telecast in 1953. In those 59 years, some were better; some were worse. Technology has jaded us all a bit. When I watched the first Oscar telecast, we could only see the films and their stars in a movie theatre for a limited time. Pictures did play for weeks on end, unless they were held over by public demand. They played two or three days, then were off to another theatre across town. After first and second run play dates, they would go to the drive-ins then back to the film exchanges, seldom to be seen until re-issued five to seven years later. Occasionally, a favorite celebrity would pop up on television as a guest in a television series or early news/talk show like TODAY. Perhaps, you would even hear them on radio gabbing with Louella Parsons or Hedda Hopper. A personal appearance by a Hollywood celebrity was a fairly rare occurrence outside a major city, so we would have to be content reading movie magazines and the newspapers. Today, thousands of movies are available at our finger tips. We can build our own DVD libraries of of favorite films over and over again, or watch them uninterrupted in our homes via rental, cable or via streaming. Celebrities are easier to contact -- via Twitter, Facebook or other networking sites -- and are almost constantly in our view via network television, cable or the internet 24 hours a day. It's become all too familiar, much like collecting movie memorabilia. Harkening back to 1953 or even 1963, dedicated fan though I was, I had no idea -- other than asking my local theatre's manager -- how to obtain a one-sheet poster, a still or a lobby card. Now, on any given day, there are nearly a million different items listed for auction or sale on E-bay alone. Personally, I enjoy being able to view and own thousands of films on DVD to enjoy again and again. I also delight in being able to see and acquire stills and posters I never thought I would own. But the very technology that provides these wonderful blessings may have tarnished Oscar and the ceremony a bit through the years. Yes, it can be done better and, yes, the Academy is made up of only a select number of mostly male, mostly over 50, Hollywood insiders. These complaints are not new and have been voiced every one of the seven decades I have watched the Academy Awards telecast. The Oscars are, and always have been, the film industry congratulating itself. In the future, like in the past, some telecasts will be better; some will be worse. As Shakespeare wrote, The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in our stars, but in ourselves - Original Message - From: Kirby McDaniel To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars Agreed. This was mid-level Woody Allen at best. I couldn't understand what the fuss was about. And the American family in that film - a bunch of right-wing bores - what a tired idea. Would have been funnier to make them American lefties more liberal than thou! Still, it wasn't entirely boring. Great shots of Paris. Who needs a star when you have Paris. We'll always have Paris, won't we? K. On Feb 27, 2012, at 10:07 AM, Posteropolis wrote: Franc, Woody got Best Original Screenplay, which I thought was weird, considering what a tired idea for a movie it was. Dave - Original Message - From: Franc To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars I actually thought it was one of the LEAST boring Oscar telecasts I've seen in a long time but then again I record the show on my DVR and only began to watch it at around 9.30 PM EST with a remote control in my hand. By the time 11 o'clock rolled around I was completely caught up, having not listened to any of the acceptance speeches I wasn't interested in or the commercials. (You do the math on that one.) I thought Billy Crystal got it right almost all night. I thought some of the choices on the video packages were strange especially the In Memorial segment which featured almost all still photos, odd for an event celebrating motion pictures. I didn't miss having to sit through the two ghastly Best Songs but the package assembled for Best Movie of the Year was wrong-headed, intercutting the clips from the best films so that one never got a taste for any of the nine films, just a stupid idea. I wasn't too upset with the actual awards last night, although I wish Hugo had taken either Best Movie or Best Direction. I was frankly expecting an old guard backlash with the totally ordinary The Descendants and George Clooney winning top awards and I'm glad that didn't happen. I would have preferred
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Best line of the night: Billy Crystal - Nothing takes the sting out of the economic woes of the world like watching millionaires hand each other golden statues. -Peter From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:56 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see. Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years. This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I think I will skip it next year. Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 24 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site http://www.emovieposter.com/ our auctions http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/signature/20111028Frankensteinemployeegr oupphotosignature.jpg Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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I'm with you, Dave. That whole going back in time to visit famous people idea was obviously ripped off from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. A film that I have to say was unjustly IGNORED by The Academy! - Original Message - From: Posteropolis posteropo...@bell.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:07:12 - (UTC) Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars MessageFranc, Woody got Best Original Screenplay, which I thought was weird, considering what a tired idea for a movie it was. Dave - Original Message - From: Franc To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars I actually thought it was one of the LEAST boring Oscar telecasts I've seen in a long time but then again I record the show on my DVR and only began to watch it at around 9.30 PM EST with a remote control in my hand. By the time 11 o'clock rolled around I was completely caught up, having not listened to any of the acceptance speeches I wasn't interested in or the commercials. (You do the math on that one.) I thought Billy Crystal got it right almost all night. I thought some of the choices on the video packages were strange especially the In Memorial segment which featured almost all still photos, odd for an event celebrating motion pictures. I didn't miss having to sit through the two ghastly Best Songs but the package assembled for Best Movie of the Year was wrong-headed, intercutting the clips from the best films so that one never got a taste for any of the nine films, just a stupid idea. I wasn't too upset with the actual awards last night, although I wish Hugo had tak! en either Best Movie or Best Direction. I was frankly expecting an old guard backlash with the totally ordinary The Descendants and George Clooney winning top awards and I'm glad that didn't happen. I would have preferred Viola Davis or Michelle Williams rather than Meryl Streep winning for a strong performance in an absolutely ghastly film but I'm also glad Woody Allen didn't win for his latest warmed-over opus. I guess I'm mellowing. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Joseph Bonelli Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:55 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars Sorry to disagree, Bruce, but several of us thought that, though it wasn't the greatest, that last night's Oscar presentation at LEAST paid attention to the professionals, living and passed on, who make up the world of movies...unlike the last two years when the production tried to cater to the People's Choice and Teeny-bop Awards. We could actually see the entire audience in the beautiful theatre last night-- instead of having it decorated like a studio for a game show, complete with peanut gallerey screaming, Pick me! Sorry, but SOMEONE has to take the higher road. I believe that OSCAR needs to be that someone. There is a huge international audience for the Oscars which negates the necessity to cater to the US's Text-Sending Teeny-Set. Don't worry about them.. Michael Bay the Vampire Crew. will see to it that they are well entertained and spend lots and lots of mommy-daddy money at the concession stands...and the grownups can snooze with pleasure through an Oscar program that honors Hugo rather than Transformers. When Oscar becomes the People's Choice, excellence in film will be buried under a heap of poot jokes and CGI. Sorry if my comments seem old-fashioned, but that's the way this movie fan sees it. Joe B in NOLA PS-- I thought the awards were well-apportioned on the whole. This year was all about the Nomination being the thing--- an excellent year for film. PPS-- But the choice NOT to bestow special honors on the Potter series with it's decade-long history of excellence in everything, was unfortunate...the night's biggest failing in my estimation. Joe From: Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:55 AM Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over
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I haven't watched an Oscars show in years watching re-runs of I Love Lucy is way more entertaining Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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just a comment on cirque de soleilI thought they did a reasonably goos job at matching the acrobatics to the movies portrayed in the background..now wouldn't it have been nice to show the greatest show on earth or trapeze in the baqckgorund? Speaking of which kirby i might be interested in your FOH cards for trapeze..will contact you ..Alan On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:57 PM, peter contarino pcontar...@triad.rr.comwrote: Best line of the night: Billy Crystal - “Nothing takes the sting out of the economic woes of the world like watching millionaires hand each other golden statues”. ** ** *-Peter* *From:* MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Bruce Hershenson *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2012 7:56 AM *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU *Subject:* [MOPO] The Oscars ** ** It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but *SO *familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies *THEY *like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see. Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least they used to *pretend *to care about the people who make it all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years. This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I think I will skip it next year. Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 24 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site http://www.emovieposter.com/ our auctions http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html ** ** Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Given his substantial contribution to the finished product, shouldn't Lodovic Bource have shared his Oscar with Bernard Herrmann for the score, or at the very least acknowledged him in his thank you speech? Personally I much preferred Howard Shore's more orchestral score for Hugo (and it was all his own work to boot). Colin From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:56 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see. Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years. This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I think I will skip it next year. Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 24 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site our auctions Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] The Oscars
I totally agree with you, Colin. Richard Del Belso Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:20:58 -0500 From: chun...@umaryland.edu Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Given his substantial contribution to the finished product, shouldn't Lodovic Bource have shared his Oscar with Bernard Herrmann for the score, or at the very least acknowledged him in his thank you speech? Personally I much preferred Howard Shore's more orchestral score for Hugo (and it was all his own work to boot). Colin From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:56 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see. Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years. This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I think I will skip it next year. Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 24 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site our auctions Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com___How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed to: listserv@listserv.american.eduIn the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-LThe author of this message is solely responsible for its content.Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com___ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] The Oscars
I had been wondering how this score got the award especially as a few years ago Johnny Greenwood's score for There Will be Blood was declared ineligable for an Oscar nomination for exactly this type of technicality. By the way Greenwood's score was the outstanding piece and a real shame it wasn't even in the running. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Colin Hunter chun...@umaryland.edu Sender: MoPo List mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:20:58 To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Reply-To: Colin Hunter chun...@umaryland.edu Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars Given his substantial contribution to the finished product, shouldn't Lodovic Bource have shared his Oscar with Bernard Herrmann for the score, or at the very least acknowledged him in his thank you speech? Personally I much preferred Howard Shore's more orchestral score for Hugo (and it was all his own work to boot). Colin From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:56 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see. Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years. This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I think I will skip it next year. Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 24 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site our auctions Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] The Oscars
if 3-6 Mafia can win an award for It's Hard to be a Pimp, anything is possible At 11:49 AM 2/27/2012, Simon Oram wrote: I had been wondering how this score got the award especially as a few years ago Johnny Greenwood's score for There Will be Blood was declared ineligable for an Oscar nomination for exactly this type of technicality. By the way Greenwood's score was the outstanding piece and a real shame it wasn't even in the running. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device From: Colin Hunter chun...@umaryland.edu Sender: MoPo List mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:20:58 -0500 To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU ReplyTo: Colin Hunter chun...@umaryland.edu Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars Given his substantial contribution to the finished product, shouldn't Lodovic Bource have shared his Oscar with Bernard Herrmann for the score, or at the very least acknowledged him in his thank you speech? Personally I much preferred Howard Shore's more orchestral score for Hugo (and it was all his own work to boot). Colin From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:56 AM To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUMoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see. Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years. This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I think I will skip it next year. Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 24 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) http://www.emovieposter.com/our site http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.htmlour auctions [] Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] The Oscars
Herrmann got an Oscar for The Devil and Daniel Webster (1941), various other nominations, but not for Vertigo. Sent from my iPhone On 27 Feb 2012, at 19:49, Simon Oram fab5fre...@btinternet.com wrote: I had been wondering how this score got the award especially as a few years ago Johnny Greenwood's score for There Will be Blood was declared ineligable for an Oscar nomination for exactly this type of technicality. By the way Greenwood's score was the outstanding piece and a real shame it wasn't even in the running. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device From: Colin Hunter chun...@umaryland.edu Sender: MoPo List mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:20:58 -0500 To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU ReplyTo: Colin Hunter chun...@umaryland.edu Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars Given his substantial contribution to the finished product, shouldn't Lodovic Bource have shared his Oscar with Bernard Herrmann for the score, or at the very least acknowledged him in his thank you speech? Personally I much preferred Howard Shore's more orchestral score for Hugo (and it was all his own work to boot). Colin From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:56 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see. Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years. This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I think I will skip it next year. Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 24 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site our auctions Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] The Oscars
What a great idea Alan! From: Alan Heimann alanheim...@gmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Mon, February 27, 2012 11:19:53 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars just a comment on cirque de soleilI thought they did a reasonably goos job at matching the acrobatics to the movies portrayed in the background..now wouldn't it have been nice to show the greatest show on earth or trapeze in the baqckgorund? Speaking of which kirby i might be interested in your FOH cards for trapeze..will contact you ..Alan On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:57 PM, peter contarino pcontar...@triad.rr.com wrote: Best line of the night: Billy Crystal - “Nothing takes the sting out of the economic woes of the world like watching millionaires hand each other golden statues”. -Peter From:MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 7:56 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see. Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years. This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I think I will skip it next year. Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 24 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site our auctions Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] The Oscars
Also love watching the Oscars every year. Thanks to all who helped me find the Oscar Family Album portion of the 1997 Academy Awards. For those who are interested, the following Youtube links are of the part of that show when those who won previous awards for acting in starring and supporting roles were on stage and mentioned one at a time. A small clip of their role and each receiving the award are shown. They are alphabetical. Acting winners in Oscar Family Album Part 1 1997 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGqwXGiDw8Efeature=related Acting winners in Oscar Family Album Part 2 1997 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WlDvrqGuzA From: Steven Hill shil...@sbcglobal.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] F The Oscars Not me... I love watching the Oscars every year. -- Steven Warren Hill shil...@sbcglobal.net shil...@yahoo.com From: Greg pickmeis...@cox.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Mon, February 27, 2012 8:13:16 PM Subject: [MOPO] F The Oscars I've spent over 10 years on Mopo, and every year it's the same thing. The show sucks, everybody watches it anyway, and then whines about it the next day. Man, I LOVE to bitch, kvetch and raise my voice in righteous indignation at the mediocrity being broadcast every year, but at some point, I made the decision to (drum roll) QUIT WATCHING. I started doing this 4-5 years ago and watching a couple really, really good films instead. It's 15 hours of my life I didn't piss away, and..well, last night, I watched A STAR IS BORN which I had never seen...on TCM. Lovely movie; the color was lush, the sound wonderful, and Garland was heartbreaking. I then watched MIDNIGHT IN PARIS, which I also loved. (If I was transported back to that time, I'd immediately find where Django Reinhardt was playing, get me a big bottle of Absinthe, and settle in for some serious guitar playing while green fairies danced around my head.) Than I watched my favorite guilty pleasure, THE WALKING DEAD. (Nathalie, do NOT watch this show, sweetie. You'll be in a rubber room forever.) A pal of mine defines insanity as doing the same thing over and over and and expecting different results. Sounds like the Oscars to me. I love my MOPO pals. Stop hurting yourselves before I have to do an intervention on you. Greg Douglass Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] The Oscars -- the Review of the Show from The Hollywood Reporter
Tim Goodman's review which pretty much sums it up in IMHO. Channing http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/franco-bombs-at-oscars-makes-162234 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] The Oscars
It was a good night for the actual winners. I continue to feel that the Oscars are tending in the direction of awarding the rightful films the proper awards. I was pleased that THE HURT LOCKER won for Best Picture. As to the ceremony itself, I thought all the big-time glamor was there and everyone looked great. The one melancholy thing for me was how, for the first time, I really felt the absolute end of Old Hollywood. The Golden Days are long gone, as are the stars. I'm glad I'm old enough to have experienced them as a child when you could see the Oscars and still enjoy people like Bob Hope, Myrna Loy, Gregory Peck, Merle Oberon, Bette Davis, Olivia DeHavilland and so many more. These people were simply larger than life. Today's star's will never measure up simply because, as great as many of them are, they were not the people who founded an incredible entertainment industry! Channing Thomson Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] The Oscars
I know what you mean Channing, and agree with it to a large degree, but it * IS* kind of ironic that the stars you reference were 1940s and 1950s stars, *EXACTLY* the kind of stars Gloria Swanson's Norma Desmond was criticizing as being faceless (when compared to the classic silent stars)! Maybe my children will one day be telling *THEIR* children that then-current stars can't hold a candle to the classic stars of their time, like Robert Pattinson or Kristen Stewart! Bruce On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 12:25 PM, channinglylethomson channinglylethom...@worldnet.att.net wrote: It was a good night for the actual winners. I continue to feel that the Oscars are tending in the direction of awarding the rightful films the proper awards. I was pleased that THE HURT LOCKER won for Best Picture. As to the ceremony itself, I thought all the big-time glamor was there and everyone looked great. The one melancholy thing for me was how, for the first time, I really felt the absolute end of Old Hollywood. The Golden Days are long gone, as are the stars. I'm glad I'm old enough to have experienced them as a child when you could see the Oscars and still enjoy people like Bob Hope, Myrna Loy, Gregory Peck, Merle Oberon, Bette Davis, Olivia DeHavilland and so many more. These people were simply larger than life. Today's star's will never measure up simply because, as great as many of them are, they were not the people who founded an incredible entertainment industry! Channing Thomson Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] The Oscars-Stars from the Past
It is a shame. too, that the Academy did not continue with the segment they did, maybe one time, about 10 years ago, when they took 15 minutes, opened the curtain, and there, onstage, were many of the stars from yesteryear, including people like olivia dehavilland, shirley temple, mickey rooney, and luise rainer. For those stars that are still able, physically, I think it a great way to pay tribute to them, as well as being able to see them again, rather than just reading some obit in Variety, or any other Entertainment section of one's local newspaper. Jeff Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] The Oscars-Stars from the Past
Let's see, they could exhume them and line up the coffins. K. On Mar 8, 2010, at 12:37 PM, Jeff Potokar wrote: It is a shame. too, that the Academy did not continue with the segment they did, maybe one time, about 10 years ago, when they took 15 minutes, opened the curtain, and there, onstage, were many of the stars from yesteryear, including people like olivia dehavilland, shirley temple, mickey rooney, and luise rainer. For those stars that are still able, physically, I think it a great way to pay tribute to them, as well as being able to see them again, rather than just reading some obit in Variety, or any other Entertainment section of one's local newspaper. Jeff Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] The Oscars
And those two can't begin to touch Taylor Lautner. Now, that's a billion-dollar smile! Kirby On Mar 8, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Bruce Hershenson wrote: I know what you mean Channing, and agree with it to a large degree, but it IS kind of ironic that the stars you reference were 1940s and 1950s stars, EXACTLY the kind of stars Gloria Swanson's Norma Desmond was criticizing as being faceless (when compared to the classic silent stars)! Maybe my children will one day be telling THEIR children that then-current stars can't hold a candle to the classic stars of their time, like Robert Pattinson or Kristen Stewart! Bruce On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 12:25 PM, channinglylethomson channinglylethom...@worldnet.att.net wrote: It was a good night for the actual winners. I continue to feel that the Oscars are tending in the direction of awarding the rightful films the proper awards. I was pleased that THE HURT LOCKER won for Best Picture. As to the ceremony itself, I thought all the big-time glamor was there and everyone looked great. The one melancholy thing for me was how, for the first time, I really felt the absolute end of Old Hollywood. The Golden Days are long gone, as are the stars. I'm glad I'm old enough to have experienced them as a child when you could see the Oscars and still enjoy people like Bob Hope, Myrna Loy, Gregory Peck, Merle Oberon, Bette Davis, Olivia DeHavilland and so many more. These people were simply larger than life. Today's star's will never measure up simply because, as great as many of them are, they were not the people who founded an incredible entertainment industry! Channing Thomson Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] The Oscars-Stars from the Past
I appreciated the tribute to the people we lost in 2009. The simple, live performance of a song played over names and faces was a tasteful change for me...simple and touching. The hosting team was a disappointment for me. Not that they were bad, but that they just weren't as good as I was hoping they'd be. It seemed like two guys doing jokes rather than a comedy team. I thought the individual introductions of the major nominees by colleagues was nice touch. Perhaps a little too long for each, but an interesting change. It was redundant to have the award presenter then immediately go through their names again. I thought Avatar was the best picture I saw this year, but says more about the competition than about Avatar. Having said that, I'm perfectly happy that Hurt Locker won. (wish I could find a copy of that Cut the red one OS though...HELP! Regards DBT Profile -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff Potokar Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 1:38 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars-Stars from the Past It is a shame. too, that the Academy did not continue with the segment they did, maybe one time, about 10 years ago, when they took 15 minutes, opened the curtain, and there, onstage, were many of the stars from yesteryear, including people like olivia dehavilland, shirley temple, mickey rooney, and luise rainer. For those stars that are still able, physically, I think it a great way to pay tribute to them, as well as being able to see them again, rather than just reading some obit in Variety, or any other Entertainment section of one's local newspaper. Jeff Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] The Oscars-Stars from the Past
Channing, My friend worked as a coordinator for the awards for a few years in the late 1990s... i asked her about this sequence and if it would continue.. she said that part of the problem was where some folks might be living, health issues and getting them here to LA, for this brief time on stage.. still if they are willing and want to attend, i think it should become a regular segment, if at all possible. Jeff On Mar 8, 2010, at 10:44 AM, channinglylethomson wrote: Jeff -- I agree. A lot of these people are still alive and well. I was fortunate to actually attend the Oscars the year Titanic won and they were all on stage and as the curtain opened, it was a truly awesome experience to see them! Channing On Mar 8, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Jeff Potokar wrote: It is a shame. too, that the Academy did not continue with the segment they did, maybe one time, about 10 years ago, when they took 15 minutes, opened the curtain, and there, onstage, were many of the stars from yesteryear, including people like olivia dehavilland, shirley temple, mickey rooney, and luise rainer. For those stars that are still able, physically, I think it a great way to pay tribute to them, as well as being able to see them again, rather than just reading some obit in Variety, or any other Entertainment section of one's local newspaper. Jeff Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] The Oscars-Stars from the Past
They did this last year, as well... not sure how well this plays, but the execs must have liked it enough to bring it back again. I didnt like the fact that Tom Hanks simply walked out at the end, for Best Pic, and simply opened the envelope, and announced the winner, without one last naming of the nominees. That takes an extra 30 secs and should have been kept as part of the process.. On Mar 8, 2010, at 10:46 AM, Doug Taylor wrote: I thought the individual introductions of the major nominees by colleagues was nice touch. Perhaps a little too long for each, but an interesting change. It was redundant to have the award presenter then immediately go through their names again. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] The Oscars-Stars from the Past
I was lucky enough to attend for several years in the 1980's, when many of the greats were still living and some actually showed up once in a while. I got to see both Bob Hope and Johnny Carson host a crowd that was peppered with greats from years gone by. In one of the moments I'll never forget, as we were walking out one year a friend I was with noticed Audrey Hepburn struggling to put her jacket on as she walked and reached over to help her with it. At first she was startled, but quickly relaxed and thanked him. It was an amazing brush with greatness. Regards DBT Profile -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Jeff Potokar Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 1:59 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars-Stars from the Past Channing, My friend worked as a coordinator for the awards for a few years in the late 1990s... i asked her about this sequence and if it would continue.. she said that part of the problem was where some folks might be living, health issues and getting them here to LA, for this brief time on stage.. still if they are willing and want to attend, i think it should become a regular segment, if at all possible. Jeff On Mar 8, 2010, at 10:44 AM, channinglylethomson wrote: Jeff -- I agree. A lot of these people are still alive and well. I was fortunate to actually attend the Oscars the year Titanic won and they were all on stage and as the curtain opened, it was a truly awesome experience to see them! Channing On Mar 8, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Jeff Potokar wrote: It is a shame. too, that the Academy did not continue with the segment they did, maybe one time, about 10 years ago, when they took 15 minutes, opened the curtain, and there, onstage, were many of the stars from yesteryear, including people like olivia dehavilland, shirley temple, mickey rooney, and luise rainer. For those stars that are still able, physically, I think it a great way to pay tribute to them, as well as being able to see them again, rather than just reading some obit in Variety, or any other Entertainment section of one's local newspaper. Jeff Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - No More Que Será Será - Give Doris Day an Oscar - NYTimes.com
Well, that explains that one. Thanks for the info. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of David Kusumoto Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 12:45 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - No More Que Será Será - Give Doris Day an Oscar - NYTimes.com ** My understanding of the situation, based on a campaign I was involved in years ago to gauge whether there was enough support from the Academy's Board of Governors to present a Lifetime Achievement Oscar for actor Glenn Ford (there was not) -- is that Doris Day has always been at the top of the list. I was told that one of the biggest obstacles is Miss Day's refusal to accept the honor in person or even via satellite (as was the case when the honor was bestowed to an ailing Myrna Loy). She simply doesn't want it if it means emerging from her self-imposed seclusion. You get a hint of this in efforts by various film societies to present similar honors to Miss Day during the 1980s, as detailed in David Kaufman's mammoth (500-page-plus) biography of Doris Day, published in 2008. ** While the Academy Board will not publicly confirm or deny rumors of Day's repeated refusals, conventional wisdom is that her name is routinely brought up -- but the Board is not eager to give the Lifetime Achievement honor to a living person who refuses to claim it in person. This brings to mind other still living actors who have been brought into the discussion -- but who are rumored to be distant runner-ups to Doris Day, the most notable being Maureen O'Hara, whose name is linked to several legendary films but who was arguably a far less versatile performer (and far more notoriously temperamental). -d. _ Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 11:01:05 -0500 From: fdav...@verizon.net Subject: Re: The Oscars - No More Que Será Será - Give Doris Day an Oscar - NYTimes.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU I totally agree. Unfortunately Doris Day got a bad rap when she began making that dreadful television series but her film work was solid. One of my favorite recording is a jazz recording Doris Day cut with Andre Previn and a small trio. She really could sing when she was given a chance. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Kirby McDaniel Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 10:21 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars - No More Que Será Será - Give Doris Day an Oscar - NYTimes.com I meant to post this some days ago. I completely agree with Douglas McGrath and think that the Academy should give this immediate and serious consideration. Underrated as an actress. But not as a singer. Anyone who knows anything about popular music of the twentieth century knows that Day was (is) one of the best singers around. I hope you can read this. You might have to log in to the New York Times website. Kirby http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/10/movies/awardsseason/10day.html Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] The Oscars - No More Que Será Será - Give Doris Day an Oscar - NYTimes.com
I meant to post this some days ago. I completely agree with Douglas McGrath and think that the Academy should give this immediate and serious consideration. Underrated as an actress. But not as a singer. Anyone who knows anything about popular music of the twentieth century knows that Day was (is) one of the best singers around. I hope you can read this. You might have to log in to the New York Times website. Kirby http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/10/movies/awardsseason/10day.html Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] The Oscars - No More Que Será Será - Give Doris Day an Oscar - NYTimes.com
** My understanding of the situation, based on a campaign I was involved in years ago to gauge whether there was enough support from the Academy's Board of Governors to present a Lifetime Achievement Oscar for actor Glenn Ford (there was not) -- is that Doris Day has always been at the top of the list. I was told that one of the biggest obstacles is Miss Day's refusal to accept the honor in person or even via satellite (as was the case when the honor was bestowed to an ailing Myrna Loy). She simply doesn't want it if it means emerging from her self-imposed seclusion. You get a hint of this in efforts by various film societies to present similar honors to Miss Day during the 1980s, as detailed in David Kaufman's mammoth (500-page-plus) biography of Doris Day, published in 2008. ** While the Academy Board will not publicly confirm or deny rumors of Day's repeated refusals, conventional wisdom is that her name is routinely brought up -- but the Board is not eager to give the Lifetime Achievement honor to a living person who refuses to claim it in person. This brings to mind other still living actors who have been brought into the discussion -- but who are rumored to be distant runner-ups to Doris Day, the most notable being Maureen O'Hara, whose name is linked to several legendary films but who was arguably a far less versatile performer (and far more notoriously temperamental). -d. Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 11:01:05 -0500 From: fdav...@verizon.net Subject: Re: The Oscars - No More Que Será Será - Give Doris Day an Oscar - NYTimes.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU I totally agree. Unfortunately Doris Day got a bad rap when she began making that dreadful television series but her film work was solid. One of my favorite recording is a jazz recording Doris Day cut with Andre Previn and a small trio. She really could sing when she was given a chance. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Kirby McDaniel Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 10:21 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars - No More Que Será Será - Give Doris Day an Oscar - NYTimes.com I meant to post this some days ago. I completely agree with Douglas McGrath and think that the Academy should give this immediate and serious consideration. Underrated as an actress. But not as a singer. Anyone who knows anything about popular music of the twentieth century knows that Day was (is) one of the best singers around. I hope you can read this. You might have to log in to the New York Times website. Kirby http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/10/movies/awardsseason/10day.html Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] MOPO] OSCARS
At 12:18 PM 2/23/2009, David Kusumoto wrote: I was extremely disappointed with Sean Penn's win. Sean Penn is an outstanding actor who gave an uncharacteristically loose, engaging and wonderful turn as an heroic figure -- in what I thought was a conventionally structured, by-the-numbers-bio-pic capped with the standard where-are-they-now text epilogue. His performance was noble and deserving -- but his victory was politically correct and in keeping with the Academy's self-seriousness to anoint things historic that makes it feel good about itself (hence the standing ovation). But in my view, the demands of his role paled compared to Mickey Rourke's shattering, full-range performance in The Wrestler. I am not a fan of Mickey Rourke and dislike him intensely. But I could not ignore -- having seen all the performances nominated this year -- what he did in this picture, from start to finish. His character was an exercise in total immersion, on par with what I believe have been the best larger-than-life performances nominated since 1980 -- including De Niro in Raging Bull (win), Hopkins in Silence of the Lambs (win), and Liam Neeson in Schindler's List (lost to Tom Hanks). This was, by far, Sean Penn's best performance. He's a heavily mannered actor whose performances are always full of the things actors love: screaming, crying, dying, being mentally handicapped. You can always see acting. But in Milk, he gave a subtle, nuanced performance that wasn't full of ticks. He relaxed into the character and stopped being Sean Penn, A*c*t*o*r. I thought he deserved the award (although I also thought that Mickey Rourke was excellent). While not related to who should win for their performance, I thought Milk a better film than The Wrestler. Rourke and Marisa Tomei were both great but the film was only okay. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment cr...@wolfmill.com ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] MOPO] OSCARS
i wasnt going to say anything... but Hugh has also bought a few things from me, as well; i guess that makes him a client of mine, too. On Feb 22, 2009, at 10:53 PM, jboh...@aol.com wrote: Thats Funny Hugh is also a client of mine. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] MOPO] OSCARS
I think Hugh Jackman is a really talented guy caught last night in the midst of a Hollywood wet dream. The show was awful and boring. I couldn't believe the incompetence of the obituaries in which you couldn't discern the names or images of the people being honored and Queen Latifa had to sing about twenty choruses of I'll Be Seeing You. And frankly, Slumdog Millionaire is over-hyped. I understand that the award is a nod to the ever-expanding emerging markets in India and Pakistan but I thought the film was only okay. All the other nominees were far superior. I would have given the best picture award to Frost/Nixon or Milk. Glad Sean Penn won best actor over the also over-hyped performance of Mickey Rouke. Sometimes the voters don't like to be told that a certain actor or actress has an award all sown up and that's what I think happened with Rouke. I stayed through the end of the show with the help of the Fast Forward on my remote control but it was one long snooze. FRANC Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] MOPO] OSCARS
I agree on all counts except Slumdog. I think Slumdog deserved its win. It's not an all-time great but it only needs to be better than this year's competition, which I think it generally was. I appreciated the originality of Slumdog's story.something we seem to see less and less of these days. (After the Oscars they were promoting the remake of Fame. ??? I didn't know they were doing one and just can't believe there is a need to go through that again. Personally, my Best Pictures for 2008 were: 1.Slumdog 2.Frost/Nixon (virtually in a tie with Slumdog, IMHO) 3.Ben Button 4.Milk DBT http://www.linkedin.com/in/douglasbtaylor Profile From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Franc Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:44 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] MOPO] OSCARS I think Hugh Jackman is a really talented guy caught last night in the midst of a Hollywood wet dream. The show was awful and boring. I couldn't believe the incompetence of the obituaries in which you couldn't discern the names or images of the people being honored and Queen Latifa had to sing about twenty choruses of I'll Be Seeing You. And frankly, Slumdog Millionaire is over-hyped. I understand that the award is a nod to the ever-expanding emerging markets in India and Pakistan but I thought the film was only okay. All the other nominees were far superior. I would have given the best picture award to Frost/Nixon or Milk. Glad Sean Penn won best actor over the also over-hyped performance of Mickey Rouke. Sometimes the voters don't like to be told that a certain actor or actress has an award all sown up and that's what I think happened with Rouke. I stayed through the end of the show with the help of the Fast Forward on my remote control but it was one long snooze. FRANC Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] MOPO] OSCARS
MessageMickey Rourke may have been placed in the midst of a Hollywood hype, but his performance was outstanding nontheless, and deserving of a nomination at the very least. Those who saw the the movie early on, before the hype, knew that they witnessed a great performance. If I'm not mistaken, this is one example where the media jumped on the band wagon after word of mouth, from film-festival-goers, earmarked the movie as worthy. Zeev - Original Message - From: Franc To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] MOPO] OSCARS I think Hugh Jackman is a really talented guy caught last night in the midst of a Hollywood wet dream. The show was awful and boring. I couldn't believe the incompetence of the obituaries in which you couldn't discern the names or images of the people being honored and Queen Latifa had to sing about twenty choruses of I'll Be Seeing You. And frankly, Slumdog Millionaire is over-hyped. I understand that the award is a nod to the ever-expanding emerging markets in India and Pakistan but I thought the film was only okay. All the other nominees were far superior. I would have given the best picture award to Frost/Nixon or Milk. Glad Sean Penn won best actor over the also over-hyped performance of Mickey Rouke. Sometimes the voters don't like to be told that a certain actor or actress has an award all sown up and that's what I think happened with Rouke. I stayed through the end of the show with the help of the Fast Forward on my remote control but it was one long snooze. FRANC Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] MOPO] OSCARS
I think Dark Knight was the best film of 2008...It wasn't nominated because it's a comic book adaption but it was perfect entertainment. Why do we always have to have an arty farty film as best picture? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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I was extremely disappointed with Sean Penn's win. Sean Penn is an outstanding actor who gave an uncharacteristically loose, engaging and wonderful turn as an heroic figure -- in what I thought was a conventionally structured, by-the-numbers-bio-pic capped with the standard where-are-they-now text epilogue. His performance was noble and deserving -- but his victory was politically correct and in keeping with the Academy's self-seriousness to anoint things historic that makes it feel good about itself (hence the standing ovation). But in my view, the demands of his role paled compared to Mickey Rourke's shattering, full-range performance in The Wrestler. I am not a fan of Mickey Rourke and dislike him intensely. But I could not ignore -- having seen all the performances nominated this year -- what he did in this picture, from start to finish. His character was an exercise in total immersion, on par with what I believe have been the best larger-than-life performances nominated since 1980 -- including De Niro in Raging Bull (win), Hopkins in Silence of the Lambs (win), and Liam Neeson in Schindler's List (lost to Tom Hanks). I dreaded paying to see The Wrestler -- expecting over-the-top nonsense. But I came away very moved with Rourke, the film's spectacular ending, and the behind-the-scenes exploration of a sub-culture with which many are unfamiliar. Rourke is not part of the Hollywood clique and never had anything sewn up. Penn's win by the gigantic voting block that make up the SAG awards last month -- re-confirmed Rourke's outsider status (Rourke is considered a social and political pariah out here) -- and made Penn the odds-on favorite by many last night. I think the Brits got it right when BAFTA named Rourke Best Actor. BAFTA is not as plagued by the anomalies of Hollywood voting as AMPAS. -kuz. Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:07:55 -0500 From: lobb...@rogers.com Subject: Re: MOPO] OSCARS To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Mickey Rourke may have been placed in the midst of a Hollywood hype, but his performance was outstanding nontheless, and deserving of a nomination at the very least. Those who saw the the movie early on, before the hype, knew that they witnessed a great performance. If I'm not mistaken, this is one example where the media jumped on the band wagon after word of mouth, from film-festival-goers, earmarked the movie as worthy. Zeev - Original Message - From: Franc To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] MOPO] OSCARS I think Hugh Jackman is a really talented guy caught last night in the midst of a Hollywood wet dream. The show was awful and boring. I couldn't believe the incompetence of the obituaries in which you couldn't discern the names or images of the people being honored and Queen Latifa had to sing about twenty choruses of I'll Be Seeing You. And frankly, Slumdog Millionaire is over-hyped. I understand that the award is a nod to the ever-expanding emerging markets in India and Pakistan but I thought the film was only okay. All the other nominees were far superior. I would have given the best picture award to Frost/Nixon or Milk. Glad Sean Penn won best actor over the also over-hyped performance of Mickey Rouke. Sometimes the voters don't like to be told that a certain actor or actress has an award all sown up and that's what I think happened with Rouke. I stayed through the end of the show with the help of the Fast Forward on my remote control but it was one long snooze. FRANC Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Because arty-farty films don't have the Peoples' Choice Awards!! (Smile) Joe B-- pleased with the Oscars in NOLA --- On Mon, 2/23/09, jboh...@aol.com jboh...@aol.com wrote: From: jboh...@aol.com jboh...@aol.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] MOPO] OSCARS To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 11:06 AM I think Dark Knight was the best film of 2008...It wasn't nominated because it's a comic book adaption but it was perfect entertainment. Why do we always have to have an arty farty film as best picture? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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He's talented and a great sport. Toochis From: David Lieberman dli...@aol.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 6:45:57 PM Subject: [MOPO] MOPO] OSCARS Hugh Jackman is actually a client of ours. David Lieberman CineMasterpieces.com| 15721 N. Greenway Hayden Loop, Suite 105 -- Scottsdale, Az 85260 Vintage Original Movie Posters|602 309 0500| Office/Gallery Open By Appt. Only. A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Thats Funny Hugh is also a client of mine. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
