subject:"Re\: \[MOPO\] Another fleabay Moron"

Rich,

frankly, if I were to complain about a $5 overcharge in shipping, I could post 
here every other day. For some reason, a vast number of eBay sellers feel 
entitled for a $5 to $10 extra for shipping international, sometimes even more. 

If I were to leave negative feedback for this, I would probably neg about 50% 
of my eBay sellers.

And don't even get me started on the people who insist of shipping 
International Priority, which has NO advantage for me whatever. If you buy 
First Class Mail International postage online, you can purchase a Certificate 
of Mailing for a mere $1.15 or so. This way you have a proof of shipping for 
Paypal, and everybody could be happy. But no, I HAS to be Priority Mail.

Almost anything I buy can be shipped for no more than $12 with First Class, yet 
I constantly find myself confronted with guys asking $30 and more for Priority 
Mail. How does an $18 overcharge sound to you?

Add the fact, that ANYTHING shipped Priority Mail is inevitably stopped by 
customs these days, regardless of declared value. So evertime this happens, I 
go on a three-hour round-trip to pick the darn thing up.

How's THAT compared to your $5 loss?

Cheers,

Helmut


Am 11.12.2011 um 21:44 schrieb Richard Halegua Comic Art:

 so I buy an Ocean's 11 lobby card from a guy on ebay
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320802002865 
 
 his shipping says $8.00 and clearly indicates it will be shipped Priority Mail
 
 Package arrives, with the flimsiest of cardboard but amazingly the card got 
 here undamaged
 
 however, this moron did not send by Priority mail, he mailed it 1st Class for 
 $1.68.
 
 so I send him a message:
 Buzz
 two things
 #1 fortunately the card did not get folded in shipping, but if yuo don't use 
 some sturdy cardboard, you're courtig danger
 #2 you charged me $8 for Priority Mail shipping and yet you sent it first 
 class for $1.68
 I'm expecting a partial refund of my shipping.. $5 will be fine
 
 his response:
 Hello:
 
 The shipping is for postage and handling and it was sent expedited. I do not 
 refund postage. thank you.
 Buzz
 ---
 so I say it is yet another fleaBay MORON getting a neg
 
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Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

Helmut  You can not pay for  First Class Mail on-line at USPS.com in
the US and to my knowledge you also can't buy a Certificate of Mailing
on-line in the US as proof of shipment. Nor so I believe Ebay or PayPal
will accept this as proof of shipment because they both insist on proof
of delivery. If a US seller ships Ebay sale items overseas the only
protection that the US seller will be offerred by Ebay and/or PayPal is
through Priority International which tracks delivery and is outrageously
expensive. It costs almost $40 to ship a lobby card from NY to England
by Priority International. I have to insist on it however for all
purchases over $150 in value in connection with buyers that I do not
know because I have been burned too often by foreign buyers who lie and
claim they did not receive my parcels when I have sent them by First
Class International Air Mail which does not provide tracking. One such
liar based in Italy named Giluvi even had the audacity to turn around
and sell the items he claims not to have received from me on Ebay and
Ebay would do nothing about it. So Ebay sellers are nopt trying to cheat
you when they insist on Priority International Postage. They are only
trying to protect themselves from frauds. FRANC

-Original Message-
From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of
Helmut Hamm
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 7:16 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron


Rich,

frankly, if I were to complain about a $5 overcharge in shipping, I
could post here every other day. For some reason, a vast number of eBay
sellers feel entitled for a $5 to $10 extra for shipping international,
sometimes even more. 

If I were to leave negative feedback for this, I would probably neg
about 50% of my eBay sellers.

And don't even get me started on the people who insist of shipping
International Priority, which has NO advantage for me whatever. If you
buy First Class Mail International postage online, you can purchase a
Certificate of Mailing for a mere $1.15 or so. This way you have a proof
of shipping for Paypal, and everybody could be happy. But no, I HAS to
be Priority Mail.

Almost anything I buy can be shipped for no more than $12 with First
Class, yet I constantly find myself confronted with guys asking $30 and
more for Priority Mail. How does an $18 overcharge sound to you?

Add the fact, that ANYTHING shipped Priority Mail is inevitably stopped
by customs these days, regardless of declared value. So evertime this
happens, I go on a three-hour round-trip to pick the darn thing up.

How's THAT compared to your $5 loss?

Cheers,

Helmut


Am 11.12.2011 um 21:44 schrieb Richard Halegua Comic Art:


so I buy an Ocean's 11 lobby card from a guy on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320802002865
item=320802002865 

his shipping says $8.00 and clearly indicates it will be shipped
Priority Mail

Package arrives, with the flimsiest of cardboard but amazingly the card
got here undamaged

however, this moron did not send by Priority mail, he mailed it 1st
Class for $1.68.

so I send him a message:
Buzz
two things
#1 fortunately the card did not get folded in shipping, but if yuo don't
use some sturdy cardboard, you're courtig danger
#2 you charged me $8 for Priority Mail shipping and yet you sent it
first class for $1.68
I'm expecting a partial refund of my shipping.. $5 will be fine

his response:
Hello:

The shipping is for postage and handling and it was sent expedited. I do
not refund postage. thank you.
Buzz
---
so I say it is yet another fleaBay MORON getting a neg


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Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

Franc,

here's a copy of the actual Paypal regulations:

4. Proof of shipment.
4.1. General. The payment recipient proofs the shipment of an item by providing 
an online tracking number of an independent shipping service or a shipping 
receipt issued by an independent shipping service, which may be uploaded via 
the PayPal website. In certain cases, providing an online tracking number will 
not suffice, so the payment recipient will be requested to provide a shipping 
receipt.

They want a proof of SHIPMENT, not a proof of delivery, so the Certificate of 
Mailing should absolutely suffice.

About buying postage online: If I can do it from here, anyone in the US should 
be able to do it as well. You CAN buy the appropriate postage on the USPS 
website, but there is one restriction: If your package is 13 oz or more, for 
so-called 'security reasons' it has to be presented at the post office. (Seeing 
this restriction makes me once again wonder, whatever happened to the 'land of 
the free and the home of the brave' but that's a different topic, and it 
certainly does not belong here.)

As you know, I'm also a dealer, and I STILL charge about $10 for a folded 
poster to any destination worldwide, which barely covers my costs for postage 
and packing and includes a tracking number. I usually cover transport insurance 
from my end (through my gallery policy). I consider this part of the costs of 
doing business, and I DO NOT make my buyers pay for it, regardless actual 
value. 

Quite frankly, I FREQUENTLY receive well packed, sometimes expensive lobby 
cards, well packed, with First Class Mail at a postage cost of under $12. 
Whenever I see a postage quote of $40 or the like on eBay, I usually don't even 
bother to bid.

Cheers,

Helmut


Am 12.12.2011 um 16:10 schrieb Franc:

 Helmut  You can not pay for  First Class Mail on-line at USPS.com in the 
 US and to my knowledge you also can't buy a Certificate of Mailing on-line in 
 the US as proof of shipment. Nor so I believe Ebay or PayPal will accept this 
 as proof of shipment because they both insist on proof of delivery. If a US 
 seller ships Ebay sale items overseas the only protection that the US seller 
 will be offerred by Ebay and/or PayPal is through Priority International 
 which tracks delivery and is outrageously expensive. It costs almost $40 to 
 ship a lobby card from NY to England by Priority International. I have to 
 insist on it however for all purchases over $150 in value in connection with 
 buyers that I do not know because I have been burned too often by foreign 
 buyers who lie and claim they did not receive my parcels when I have sent 
 them by First Class International Air Mail which does not provide tracking. 
 One such liar based in Italy named Giluvi even had the audacity to turn 
 around and sell the items he claims not to have received from me on Ebay and 
 Ebay would do nothing about it. So Ebay sellers are nopt trying to cheat you 
 when they insist on Priority International Postage. They are only trying to 
 protect themselves from frauds. FRANC
 -Original Message-
 From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm
 Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 7:16 AM
 To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
 Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
 
 Rich,
 
 frankly, if I were to complain about a $5 overcharge in shipping, I could 
 post here every other day. For some reason, a vast number of eBay sellers 
 feel entitled for a $5 to $10 extra for shipping international, sometimes 
 even more. 
 
 If I were to leave negative feedback for this, I would probably neg about 50% 
 of my eBay sellers.
 
 And don't even get me started on the people who insist of shipping 
 International Priority, which has NO advantage for me whatever. If you buy 
 First Class Mail International postage online, you can purchase a Certificate 
 of Mailing for a mere $1.15 or so. This way you have a proof of shipping for 
 Paypal, and everybody could be happy. But no, I HAS to be Priority Mail.
 
 Almost anything I buy can be shipped for no more than $12 with First Class, 
 yet I constantly find myself confronted with guys asking $30 and more for 
 Priority Mail. How does an $18 overcharge sound to you?
 
 Add the fact, that ANYTHING shipped Priority Mail is inevitably stopped by 
 customs these days, regardless of declared value. So evertime this happens, I 
 go on a three-hour round-trip to pick the darn thing up.
 
 How's THAT compared to your $5 loss?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Helmut
 
 
 Am 11.12.2011 um 21:44 schrieb Richard Halegua Comic Art:
 
 so I buy an Ocean's 11 lobby card from a guy on ebay
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320802002865 
 
 his shipping says $8.00 and clearly indicates it will be shipped Priority 
 Mail
 
 Package arrives, with the flimsiest of cardboard but amazingly the card got 
 here undamaged
 
 however, this moron did not send by Priority mail, he mailed it 1st Class 
 for $1.68

Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

I'm basically on the same page with Franc on this.  Domestic shipping is a 
breeze for now.  What happens if and when the FEDS hand over the Post Office to 
UPS or
FED EX is anybody's guess.*  We use USPS for most shipment.  International 
shipping has gotten very expensive.  It not uncommon for the dollar amount of 
the
shipping to outstrip the value of the poster.  Yet some international buyers do 
not balk at paying the money.  Last winter we shipped some posters to the UK 
during
the extreme inclimate weather by First Class Mail.  These items were hung up 
for over two months.  Fortunately and finally, all of these items but one 
finally arrived.

We go to our local post office every day, so we do not have the same strictures 
as those who do business on USPS.com .



* Don't get me started on this.  The postal services are NOT a business.  They 
were never intended to be a business.  They are a government service.  We still 
need them, despite
what some who worship the free markets think.

Kirby McDaniel
www.movieart.net


On Dec 12, 2011, at 9:10 AM, Franc wrote:

 Helmut  You can not pay for  First Class Mail on-line at USPS.com in the 
 US and to my knowledge you also can't buy a Certificate of Mailing on-line in 
 the US as proof of shipment. Nor so I believe Ebay or PayPal will accept this 
 as proof of shipment because they both insist on proof of delivery. If a US 
 seller ships Ebay sale items overseas the only protection that the US seller 
 will be offerred by Ebay and/or PayPal is through Priority International 
 which tracks delivery and is outrageously expensive. It costs almost $40 to 
 ship a lobby card from NY to England by Priority International. I have to 
 insist on it however for all purchases over $150 in value in connection with 
 buyers that I do not know because I have been burned too often by foreign 
 buyers who lie and claim they did not receive my parcels when I have sent 
 them by First Class International Air Mail which does not provide tracking. 
 One such liar based in Italy named Giluvi even had the audacity to turn 
 around and sell the items he claims not to have received from me on Ebay and 
 Ebay would do nothing about it. So Ebay sellers are nopt trying to cheat you 
 when they insist on Priority International Postage. They are only trying to 
 protect themselves from frauds. FRANC
 -Original Message-
 From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm
 Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 7:16 AM
 To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
 Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
 
 Rich,
 
 frankly, if I were to complain about a $5 overcharge in shipping, I could 
 post here every other day. For some reason, a vast number of eBay sellers 
 feel entitled for a $5 to $10 extra for shipping international, sometimes 
 even more. 
 
 If I were to leave negative feedback for this, I would probably neg about 50% 
 of my eBay sellers.
 
 And don't even get me started on the people who insist of shipping 
 International Priority, which has NO advantage for me whatever. If you buy 
 First Class Mail International postage online, you can purchase a Certificate 
 of Mailing for a mere $1.15 or so. This way you have a proof of shipping for 
 Paypal, and everybody could be happy. But no, I HAS to be Priority Mail.
 
 Almost anything I buy can be shipped for no more than $12 with First Class, 
 yet I constantly find myself confronted with guys asking $30 and more for 
 Priority Mail. How does an $18 overcharge sound to you?
 
 Add the fact, that ANYTHING shipped Priority Mail is inevitably stopped by 
 customs these days, regardless of declared value. So evertime this happens, I 
 go on a three-hour round-trip to pick the darn thing up.
 
 How's THAT compared to your $5 loss?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Helmut
 
 
 Am 11.12.2011 um 21:44 schrieb Richard Halegua Comic Art:
 
 so I buy an Ocean's 11 lobby card from a guy on ebay
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320802002865 
 
 his shipping says $8.00 and clearly indicates it will be shipped Priority 
 Mail
 
 Package arrives, with the flimsiest of cardboard but amazingly the card got 
 here undamaged
 
 however, this moron did not send by Priority mail, he mailed it 1st Class 
 for $1.68.
 
 so I send him a message:
 Buzz
 two things
 #1 fortunately the card did not get folded in shipping, but if yuo don't use 
 some sturdy cardboard, you're courtig danger
 #2 you charged me $8 for Priority Mail shipping and yet you sent it first 
 class for $1.68
 I'm expecting a partial refund of my shipping.. $5 will be fine
 
 his response:
 Hello:
 
 The shipping is for postage and handling and it was sent expedited. I do not 
 refund postage. thank you.
 Buzz
 ---
 so I say it is yet another fleaBay MORON getting a neg
 
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Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

2011-12-12 Thread peter contarino

Use stamps.com. you can ship First Class Int and get insurance and tracking.

 

Peter Contarino

 

From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Kirby
McDaniel
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 11:50 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

 

I'm basically on the same page with Franc on this.  Domestic shipping is a
breeze for now.  What happens if and when the FEDS hand over the Post Office
to UPS or

FED EX is anybody's guess.*  We use USPS for most shipment.  International
shipping has gotten very expensive.  It not uncommon for the dollar amount
of the

shipping to outstrip the value of the poster.  Yet some international buyers
do not balk at paying the money.  Last winter we shipped some posters to the
UK during

the extreme inclimate weather by First Class Mail.  These items were hung up
for over two months.  Fortunately and finally, all of these items but one
finally arrived.

 

We go to our local post office every day, so we do not have the same
strictures as those who do business on USPS.com .

 

 

 

* Don't get me started on this.  The postal services are NOT a business.
They were never intended to be a business.  They are a government service.
We still need them, despite

what some who worship the free markets think.

 

Kirby McDaniel

www.movieart.net

 

 

On Dec 12, 2011, at 9:10 AM, Franc wrote:





Helmut  You can not pay for  First Class Mail on-line at USPS.com in the
US and to my knowledge you also can't buy a Certificate of Mailing on-line
in the US as proof of shipment. Nor so I believe Ebay or PayPal will accept
this as proof of shipment because they both insist on proof of delivery. If
a US seller ships Ebay sale items overseas the only protection that the US
seller will be offerred by Ebay and/or PayPal is through Priority
International which tracks delivery and is outrageously expensive. It costs
almost $40 to ship a lobby card from NY to England by Priority
International. I have to insist on it however for all purchases over $150 in
value in connection with buyers that I do not know because I have been
burned too often by foreign buyers who lie and claim they did not receive my
parcels when I have sent them by First Class International Air Mail which
does not provide tracking. One such liar based in Italy named Giluvi even
had the audacity to turn around and sell the items he claims not to have
received from me on Ebay and Ebay would do nothing about it. So Ebay sellers
are nopt trying to cheat you when they insist on Priority International
Postage. They are only trying to protect themselves from frauds. FRANC

-Original Message-
From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut
Hamm
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 7:16 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

Rich,

 

frankly, if I were to complain about a $5 overcharge in shipping, I could
post here every other day. For some reason, a vast number of eBay sellers
feel entitled for a $5 to $10 extra for shipping international, sometimes
even more. 

 

If I were to leave negative feedback for this, I would probably neg about
50% of my eBay sellers.

 

And don't even get me started on the people who insist of shipping
International Priority, which has NO advantage for me whatever. If you buy
First Class Mail International postage online, you can purchase a
Certificate of Mailing for a mere $1.15 or so. This way you have a proof of
shipping for Paypal, and everybody could be happy. But no, I HAS to be
Priority Mail.

 

Almost anything I buy can be shipped for no more than $12 with First Class,
yet I constantly find myself confronted with guys asking $30 and more for
Priority Mail. How does an $18 overcharge sound to you?

 

Add the fact, that ANYTHING shipped Priority Mail is inevitably stopped by
customs these days, regardless of declared value. So evertime this happens,
I go on a three-hour round-trip to pick the darn thing up.

 

How's THAT compared to your $5 loss?

 

Cheers,

 

Helmut

 

 

Am 11.12.2011 um 21:44 schrieb Richard Halegua Comic Art:





so I buy an Ocean's 11 lobby card from a guy on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320802002865
item=320802002865 

his shipping says $8.00 and clearly indicates it will be shipped Priority
Mail

Package arrives, with the flimsiest of cardboard but amazingly the card got
here undamaged

however, this moron did not send by Priority mail, he mailed it 1st Class
for $1.68.

so I send him a message:
Buzz
two things
#1 fortunately the card did not get folded in shipping, but if yuo don't use
some sturdy cardboard, you're courtig danger
#2 you charged me $8 for Priority Mail shipping and yet you sent it first
class for $1.68
I'm expecting a partial refund of my shipping.. $5 will be fine

his response:
Hello:

The shipping is for postage and handling and it was sent

Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

 Last winter we shipped some posters to the UK during
 the extreme inclimate weather by First Class Mail.  These items were hung up 
 for over two months.  

Dear Kirby and Freeman,

within the last month, I received a significant number of packages sent First 
Class, not a single one took longer than two weeks, some got here within less 
than ten days, all of them were delivered straight to my mailbox. 

USPS claims that Priority Mail takes about 7-10 days or so. In my experience, 
this is NONSENSE: I had TWO packages shipped Priority Mail recently: The first 
one shipped a full month ago and I just got notice from customs that I can pick 
it up, so I'm going to waste half a work day on that one. (And we're talking 
about a value of merely US-$50 here.)
The other package was apparently shipped mid-November, no trace of it so far 
and as it seems, the seller has lost the tracking number. I do not doubt that 
he shipped it, but it's been a month and it's no here yet. 
If agreed upfront, and if I feel confident about the seller, I'm perfectly 
happy to cover the risk of an actual loss. With this seller, I would have been 
happy to do so in this case, all I would have requested is postage at actual 
cost and the said Certificate of Mailing, and he wouldn't have any worries. 
On the other hand, when I'm made to pay for Priority and the seller can't show 
the tracking number, I will obviously file a Paypal claim, if my order has not 
arrived after a month.

In over 15 years of mail order business, I think I had less than 10 items that 
were actually lost in the mail system, and that counts for both incoming AND 
outgoing mail. I lost a lot more money to sellers who never actually shipped my 
order.

To each his own, but as I said before, in my personal every-day experience, 
Priority Mail holds NO advantage for me, it costs a lot of my money AND my time 
through the now inevitable customs hassle, so unless I'm really crazy about 
something and/or it's an irresistible deal, I more and more avoid sellers who 
are unwilling to work with me on this.

Helmut


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Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

Franc,

you're saying

 It costs almost $40 to ship a lobby card from NY to England by Priority 
 International. 

Since you're a professional, I figure you should know what you're talking about 
here... Yet, for mere curiosity's sake, I just checked the actual cost on 
usps.com: I assumed a weight of one pound, which we both know is ample for a 
single lobby card, and I further assumed the package cannot bent easily. If 
purchased online, the actual cost is $28.03, $29.50 at the post office counter 
so that would be an overcharge of $11.97, respectively $10.50.

Now, when Rich (rightfully) complained about an overcharge of a mere $5 you 
gave the following advice:

 I recommend you leave him a negative feedback and explain why in the comments 
and report him to Ebay for charging excessive postage. He's an idiot. FRANC

Cheers,

Helmut
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Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

2011-12-12 Thread lovenoir2

Well said, Helmut, and your examples of what it has cost you to both
ship and receive items to Germany certainly shows that the high
shipping prices, discussed by others, DO NOT need to be charged to
clients.

It's simply another way for sellers to line their pockets with
additional cash, especially when no secondary, cheaper shipping
methods are offered.

40.00 to mail a single lobby card to the UK?? THAT is absurd and
beyond unwarranted.

It's no different than the seller in Canada who charges a flat 25.00
(even to the US) to mail what could potentially be a  folded, 99 cent
poster. Outrageous.

-KL





On 12/12/11, Helmut Hamm texasmu...@web.de wrote:
 Last winter we shipped some posters to the UK during
 the extreme inclimate weather by First Class Mail.  These items were hung
 up for over two months.

 Dear Kirby and Freeman,

 within the last month, I received a significant number of packages sent
 First Class, not a single one took longer than two weeks, some got here
 within less than ten days, all of them were delivered straight to my
 mailbox.

 USPS claims that Priority Mail takes about 7-10 days or so. In my
 experience, this is NONSENSE: I had TWO packages shipped Priority Mail
 recently: The first one shipped a full month ago and I just got notice from
 customs that I can pick it up, so I'm going to waste half a work day on that
 one. (And we're talking about a value of merely US-$50 here.)
 The other package was apparently shipped mid-November, no trace of it so far
 and as it seems, the seller has lost the tracking number. I do not doubt
 that he shipped it, but it's been a month and it's no here yet.
 If agreed upfront, and if I feel confident about the seller, I'm perfectly
 happy to cover the risk of an actual loss. With this seller, I would have
 been happy to do so in this case, all I would have requested is postage at
 actual cost and the said Certificate of Mailing, and he wouldn't have any
 worries.
 On the other hand, when I'm made to pay for Priority and the seller can't
 show the tracking number, I will obviously file a Paypal claim, if my order
 has not arrived after a month.

 In over 15 years of mail order business, I think I had less than 10 items
 that were actually lost in the mail system, and that counts for both
 incoming AND outgoing mail. I lost a lot more money to sellers who never
 actually shipped my order.

 To each his own, but as I said before, in my personal every-day experience,
 Priority Mail holds NO advantage for me, it costs a lot of my money AND my
 time through the now inevitable customs hassle, so unless I'm really crazy
 about something and/or it's an irresistible deal, I more and more avoid
 sellers who are unwilling to work with me on this.

 Helmut


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Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

2011-12-12 Thread Freeman Fisher

Helmut,
To Germany and England, for me to send a lobby card or a folded one sheet, it 
is always $33 to $36, priority mail. I think Franc was just rounding.  That 
said, one has to go to the Post Office counter to ship overseas, a rule that 
has everything to do with post 9/11 security. 

The cheaper rates you are seeing are possibly those rates for the standardized 
pre-printed Priority Mail boxes that one acquires from the post office.  But 
those boxes do not safely ship a valuable lobby card..they are just a 
couple of inches short of adequate protection from the gorillas handling 
between here and there.  And don't get me started on those people who simply 
leave said boxes flattened and ship a valuable piece sandwiched in between two 
of them just to save money on cardboard. 

Also in response to others, I have absolutely NOT  had luck with timely 
delivery overseas via first class.  I have tried several times with an 
inexpensive photo, lobby or Belgium poster and almost always its an extended 
snails pace which ultimately results in distressed emails inquiring as to the 
arrival of their purchase.   Believe me this is about satisfying the customer 
in getting their treasures to them in a timely fashion and not just to spend 
more of their money trying to keep the Post Office afloat.

fwf


On Dec 12, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Helmut Hamm wrote:

 Franc,
 
 you're saying
 
 It costs almost $40 to ship a lobby card from NY to England by Priority 
 International. 
 
 Since you're a professional, I figure you should know what you're talking 
 about here... Yet, for mere curiosity's sake, I just checked the actual cost 
 on usps.com: I assumed a weight of one pound, which we both know is ample for 
 a single lobby card, and I further assumed the package cannot bent easily. If 
 purchased online, the actual cost is $28.03, $29.50 at the post office 
 counter so that would be an overcharge of $11.97, respectively $10.50.
 
 Now, when Rich (rightfully) complained about an overcharge of a mere $5 you 
 gave the following advice:
 
  I recommend you leave him a negative feedback and explain why in the 
 comments and report him to Ebay for charging excessive postage. He's an 
 idiot. FRANC
 
 Cheers,
 
 Helmut
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Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

2011-12-12 Thread Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art


Kirby is so right about this:


At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote:

* Don't get me started on this.  The postal services are NOT a 
business.  They were never intended to be a business.  They are a 
government service.  We still need them, despite

what some who worship the free markets think.


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Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

2011-12-12 Thread Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art

Helmut, it isn't just about the $5, the facts are that his ebay page 
flatly misrepresents what was supposed to happen, that my package was 
going to be shipped by Priority Mail, for $8. It was not


You know me too well to think that I would do the same thing and you 
may or may not know that my secretary Anna regularly lets buyers know 
if the postage money they sent to get their items shipped was too 
much, and they therefore have a credit of some nature.

She keeps a list by her desk to reference.

my fees for shipping do include a small amount - maybe a couple bucks 
- to cover supplies used  a tiny bit for labor and I allowed the 
fleaBay jackass something for that, but I do not charge anyone $5 to 
put the package in my car  drive over to the post office. Also, I 
think many people will agree, that this is happening too much now on 
these jackass fleaBay sellers AND it is strictly prohibited by the 
fleaBay rules. I did file a report, but the time involved in trying 
to find the right complaint forms at ebay is ridiculous and to be 
honest, fleaBay does something that goes against a potential buyer 
seeing a true feedback rating for the sellers because they drop off 
ratings over 12 months old, and if you go into the guy's feedback 
file, you can see he has a few complaints about just this issue, but 
they were more than 12 months old (one just barely) so his feedback 
is 100%, giving buyers a false sense that he is a good seller.


the good news for buyers following me? this donkey only has one 
feedback comment for the past 12 months (maybe he was staying off 
with the lowered rating?) and so when I neg him, he'll be at 50% and 
the likelihood he will be selling anything to anyone with a 50% 
rating is pretty close to zero and that is EXACTLY WHAT FEEDBACK IS 
FOR - to warn other potential buyers that the seller is a complete 
and utter moron who cannot be trusted


Rich


At 04:16 AM 12/12/2011, Helmut Hamm wrote:

Rich,

frankly, if I were to complain about a $5 overcharge in shipping, I 
could post here every other day. For some reason, a vast number of 
eBay sellers feel entitled for a $5 to $10 extra for shipping 
international, sometimes even more.


If I were to leave negative feedback for this, I would probably neg 
about 50% of my eBay sellers.


And don't even get me started on the people who insist of shipping 
International Priority, which has NO advantage for me whatever. If 
you buy First Class Mail International postage online, you can 
purchase a Certificate of Mailing for a mere $1.15 or so. This way 
you have a proof of shipping for Paypal, and everybody could be 
happy. But no, I HAS to be Priority Mail.


Almost anything I buy can be shipped for no more than $12 with First 
Class, yet I constantly find myself confronted with guys asking $30 
and more for Priority Mail. How does an $18 overcharge sound to you?


Add the fact, that ANYTHING shipped Priority Mail is inevitably 
stopped by customs these days, regardless of declared value. So 
evertime this happens, I go on a three-hour round-trip to pick the 
darn thing up.


How's THAT compared to your $5 loss?

Cheers,

Helmut


Am 11.12.2011 um 21:44 schrieb Richard Halegua Comic Art:


so I buy an Ocean's 11 lobby card from a guy on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320802002865

his shipping says $8.00 and clearly indicates it will be shipped 
Priority Mail


Package arrives, with the flimsiest of cardboard but amazingly the 
card got here undamaged


however, this moron did not send by Priority mail, he mailed it 1st 
Class for $1.68.


so I send him a message:
Buzz
two things
#1 fortunately the card did not get folded in shipping, but if yuo 
don't use some sturdy cardboard, you're courtig danger
#2 you charged me $8 for Priority Mail shipping and yet you sent it 
first class for $1.68

I'm expecting a partial refund of my shipping.. $5 will be fine

his response:
Hello:

The shipping is for postage and handling and it was sent expedited. 
I do not refund postage. thank you.

Buzz
---
so I say it is yet another fleaBay MORON getting a neg

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Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

I also agree with Kirby on this, but I go one step further: In my humble 
opinion, SHIPPING COSTS are not supposed to be a source of extra revenue. They 
are supposed to be a CUSTOMER SERVICE, and should be calculated as such.

Helmut

 Kirby is so right about this:
 
 
 At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote:
 
 * Don't get me started on this.  The postal services are NOT a business.  
 They were never intended to be a business.  They are a government service.  
 We still need them, despite
 what some who worship the free markets think.
 
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Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

2011-12-12 Thread Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art

you are 100% correct Helmut, that dealers are not meant to profit 
from shipping/packaging costs

I can't sell you something if I can't ship it to you
if I'm not going to be happy with the price I get for what I sell 
you, then I should start it higher, where I will be happy


of course, in my case, as all MoviePosterBid.com bidders know - I'm 
happy with whatever I get for any particular item, even when 
something sells for just 99 cents, but to a tee, almost every fleaBay 
seller whom I have this gripe with loves to add what a great price 
the item is even with the extra charge


it's the same as stealing, he's picking my pocket



At 11:06 AM 12/12/2011, Helmut Hamm wrote:
I also agree with Kirby on this, but I go one step further: In my 
humble opinion, SHIPPING COSTS are not supposed to be a source of 
extra revenue. They are supposed to be a CUSTOMER SERVICE, and 
should be calculated as such.


Helmut


Kirby is so right about this:


At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote:

* Don't get me started on this.  The postal services are NOT a 
business.  They were never intended to be a business.  They are a 
government service.  We still need them, despite

what some who worship the free markets think.
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Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

2011-12-12 Thread Bruce Hershenson

I pay an employee to review all 500 orders we send each week, and we refund
anyone who paid more than $1 over the cost of shipping plus $3 for
packaging supplies and third party insurance. We send lots of $2 and $3
refunds (plus lots more to people who pay multiple shipping charges on
stuff that can be combined).

I figure this is far more effective advertising than buying splashy ads and
printing elaborate catalogs.

Bruce

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Helmut Hamm texasmu...@web.de wrote:

I also agree with Kirby on this, but I go one step further: In my humble
opinion, SHIPPING COSTS are not supposed to be a source of extra revenue.
They are supposed to be a CUSTOMER SERVICE, and should be calculated as
such.

Helmut

Kirby is so right about this:

At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote:

* Don't get me started on this. *The postal services are NOT a
business. They were never intended to be a business. They are a
government service*. We still need them, despite
what some who worship the free markets think.

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Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

I don't know if you've ever tried to place a claim with Ebay or PayPal.
I have. I had a Customs Tracking number and a postal receipt for
International AirMail. Ebay and PayPal would not accept it and insisted
on proof of delivery. You can't buy postage on-line from USPS.com for
International First Class, only Priority or Express Mail. Nor can one
buy a Certificate of Mailing on-line from USPS. I'm not even sure if you
can buy one in a post office. Hence some buyers like myself insist on
using Priority International, even though we realize it will cut into
our sales because of the exorbinant postal fees. FRANC

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From: Helmut Hamm [mailto:texasmu...@web.de] 
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 10:53 AM
To: Franc; mop...@sol03.american.edu
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron


Franc,

here's a copy of the actual Paypal regulations:

4. Proof of shipment. 

4.1. General. The payment recipient proofs the shipment of an item by
providing an online tracking number of an independent shipping service
or a shipping receipt issued by an independent shipping service, which
may be uploaded via the PayPal website. In certain cases, providing an
online tracking number will not suffice, so the payment recipient will
be requested to provide a shipping receipt.

They want a proof of SHIPMENT, not a proof of delivery, so the
Certificate of Mailing should absolutely suffice.

About buying postage online: If I can do it from here, anyone in the US
should be able to do it as well. You CAN buy the appropriate postage on
the USPS website, but there is one restriction: If your package is 13 oz
or more, for so-called 'security reasons' it has to be presented at the
post office. (Seeing this restriction makes me once again wonder,
whatever happened to the 'land of the free and the home of the brave'
but that's a different topic, and it certainly does not belong here.)

As you know, I'm also a dealer, and I STILL charge about $10 for a
folded poster to any destination worldwide, which barely covers my costs
for postage and packing and includes a tracking number. I usually cover
transport insurance from my end (through my gallery policy). I consider
this part of the costs of doing business, and I DO NOT make my buyers
pay for it, regardless actual value. 

Quite frankly, I FREQUENTLY receive well packed, sometimes expensive
lobby cards, well packed, with First Class Mail at a postage cost of
under $12. 
Whenever I see a postage quote of $40 or the like on eBay, I usually
don't even bother to bid.

Cheers,

Helmut


Am 12.12.2011 um 16:10 schrieb Franc:


Helmut  You can not pay for  First Class Mail on-line at USPS.com in
the US and to my knowledge you also can't buy a Certificate of Mailing
on-line in the US as proof of shipment. Nor so I believe Ebay or PayPal
will accept this as proof of shipment because they both insist on proof
of delivery. If a US seller ships Ebay sale items overseas the only
protection that the US seller will be offerred by Ebay and/or PayPal is
through Priority International which tracks delivery and is outrageously
expensive. It costs almost $40 to ship a lobby card from NY to England
by Priority International. I have to insist on it however for all
purchases over $150 in value in connection with buyers that I do not
know because I have been burned too often by foreign buyers who lie and
claim they did not receive my parcels when I have sent them by First
Class International Air Mail which does not provide tracking. One such
liar based in Italy named Giluvi even had the audacity to turn around
and sell the items he claims not to have received from me on Ebay and
Ebay would do nothing about it. So Ebay sellers are nopt trying to cheat
you when they insist on Priority International Postage. They are only
trying to protect themselves from frauds. FRANC

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Helmut Hamm
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 7:16 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
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Rich,

frankly, if I were to complain about a $5 overcharge in shipping, I
could post here every other day. For some reason, a vast number of eBay
sellers feel entitled for a $5 to $10 extra for shipping international,
sometimes even more. 

If I were to leave negative feedback for this, I would probably neg
about 50% of my eBay sellers.

And don't even get me started on the people who insist of shipping
International Priority, which has NO advantage for me whatever. If you
buy First Class Mail International postage online, you can purchase a
Certificate of Mailing for a mere $1.15 or so. This way you have a proof
of shipping for Paypal, and everybody could be happy. But no, I HAS to
be Priority Mail.

Almost anything I buy can be shipped for no more than $12 with First
Class, yet I constantly find myself confronted with guys asking $30 and
more for Priority Mail. How does an $18 overcharge sound to you?

Add

Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

 Helmut ---  I  just shipped a lobby by Priority International. It
weighed 1.9 oz with my packaging and it required additional insurance.
That's why it cost $40. There was no overcharge and you shouldn't
insinuate there was. There's no reason to be so nasty on a forum in
which we are exchanging information.  FRANC

 From: Helmut Hamm [mailto:texasmu...@web.de] 
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 1:07 PM
To: Franc; mop...@sol03.american.edu
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

Franc,

you're saying

It costs almost $40 to ship a lobby card from NY to England by Priority
International. 

Since you're a professional, I figure you should know what you're
talking about here... Yet, for mere curiosity's sake, I just checked the
actual cost on usps.com: I assumed a weight of one pound, which we both
know is ample for a single lobby card, and I further assumed the package
cannot bent easily. If purchased online, the actual cost is $28.03,
$29.50 at the post office counter so that would be an overcharge of
$11.97, respectively $10.50.

Now, when Rich (rightfully) complained about an overcharge of a mere $5
you gave the following advice:

 I recommend you leave him a negative feedback and explain why in the
comments and report him to Ebay for charging excessive postage. He's an
idiot. FRANC

Cheers,

Helmut

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Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

Of course we need the post office. No commercial service would take on
daily letter delivery and certainly not at a cost of $.44 a letter. This
free market BS is just that. FRANC

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Kirby is so right about this:

At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote:

* Don't get me started on this.  The postal services are NOT a business.
They were never intended to be a business.  They are a government
service.  We still need them, despite
what some who worship the free markets think.

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Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

And you have no idea what you're talking about, since I made not one
penny on the shipment to the UK. FRANC

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Well said, Helmut, and your examples of what it has cost you to both
ship and receive items to Germany certainly shows that the high shipping
prices, discussed by others, DO NOT need to be charged to clients.

It's simply another way for sellers to line their pockets with
additional cash, especially when no secondary, cheaper shipping methods
are offered.

40.00 to mail a single lobby card to the UK?? THAT is absurd and beyond
unwarranted.

It's no different than the seller in Canada who charges a flat 25.00
(even to the US) to mail what could potentially be a  folded, 99 cent
poster. Outrageous.

-KL

On 12/12/11, Helmut Hamm texasmu...@web.de wrote:
 Last winter we shipped some posters to the UK during
 the extreme inclimate weather by First Class Mail.  These items were 
 hung up for over two months.

 Dear Kirby and Freeman,

 within the last month, I received a significant number of packages 
 sent First Class, not a single one took longer than two weeks, some 
 got here within less than ten days, all of them were delivered 
 straight to my mailbox.

 USPS claims that Priority Mail takes about 7-10 days or so. In my 
 experience, this is NONSENSE: I had TWO packages shipped Priority Mail
 recently: The first one shipped a full month ago and I just got notice

 from customs that I can pick it up, so I'm going to waste half a work 
 day on that one. (And we're talking about a value of merely US-$50 
 here.) The other package was apparently shipped mid-November, no trace

 of it so far and as it seems, the seller has lost the tracking number.

 I do not doubt that he shipped it, but it's been a month and it's no 
 here yet. If agreed upfront, and if I feel confident about the seller,

 I'm perfectly happy to cover the risk of an actual loss. With this 
 seller, I would have been happy to do so in this case, all I would 
 have requested is postage at actual cost and the said Certificate of 
 Mailing, and he wouldn't have any worries. On the other hand, when I'm

 made to pay for Priority and the seller can't show the tracking 
 number, I will obviously file a Paypal claim, if my order has not 
 arrived after a month.

 In over 15 years of mail order business, I think I had less than 10 
 items that were actually lost in the mail system, and that counts for 
 both incoming AND outgoing mail. I lost a lot more money to sellers 
 who never actually shipped my order.

 To each his own, but as I said before, in my personal every-day 
 experience, Priority Mail holds NO advantage for me, it costs a lot of

 my money AND my time through the now inevitable customs hassle, so 
 unless I'm really crazy about something and/or it's an irresistible 
 deal, I more and more avoid sellers who are unwilling to work with me 
 on this.

 Helmut

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Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

2011-12-12 Thread Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art

in our case, we don't send the refunds anymore - we let you know you 
have a credit.
it's more time consuming to send the refunds and all buyers do not 
use Paypal (some actually do send checks)



At 11:14 AM 12/12/2011, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
I pay an employee to review all 500 orders we send each week, and we 
refund anyone who paid more than $1 over the cost of shipping plus 
$3 for packaging supplies and third party insurance. We send lots of 
$2 and $3 refunds (plus lots more to people who pay multiple 
shipping charges on stuff that can be combined).


I figure this is far more effective advertising than buying splashy 
ads and printing elaborate catalogs.


Bruce

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Helmut Hamm 
mailto:texasmu...@web.detexasmu...@web.de wrote:
I also agree with Kirby on this, but I go one step further: In my 
humble opinion, SHIPPING COSTS are not supposed to be a source of 
extra revenue. They are supposed to be a CUSTOMER SERVICE, and 
should be calculated as such.


Helmut



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government service.  We still need them, despite

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Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

2011-12-12 Thread Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art



Nor can one buy a Certificate of Mailing on-line from USPS. I'm not 
even sure if you can buy one in a post office.


you can indeed get a slip that the USPS rubber stamps for this service

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Sellers are not supposed to make money on shipping but postal fees are
not the only cost of shipping. There is also the cost of packing
materials and in some cases labor. Now if one ships in a flimsy manner
to keep costs to a minimum, package materials cost virtually nothing but
if one packages securely there is an expense for mailers or boxes and
cardboards that have to be calculated in estimating the cost of
shipping. Bruce used to have a nice page explaining to the uninformed
what goes into handling.  FRANC

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I also agree with Kirby on this, but I go one step further: In my humble
opinion, SHIPPING COSTS are not supposed to be a source of extra
revenue. They are supposed to be a CUSTOMER SERVICE, and should be
calculated as such. 

Helmut



Kirby is so right about this:


At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote:



* Don't get me started on this.  The postal services are NOT a business.
They were never intended to be a business.  They are a government
service.  We still need them, despite
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Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

2011-12-12 Thread Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art


Franc

people don't realize that the USPS is an integral part of our nations 
history and that it was created as a vehicle to promote economic 
benefit. For more than 150 years, Postmaster General was a Cabinet 
level position (eliminated in the 1970s)
The original purpose of the USPS was to provide a way for newspapers, 
magazines and advertising to reach consumers, which in turn created 
an economic engine. This is still the purpose of the USPS. 70% of all 
revenues come from bulk and commercial mailings (yeah that junkmail). 
However, if we eliminate the USPS, the cost of shipping packages are 
much higher with UPS and Fed-X and I have no doubt that it would kill 
my business and other mail-order sales.


we need it and anyone who says otherwise is simply uninformed


At 11:42 AM 12/12/2011, Franc wrote:
Of course we need the post office. No commercial service would take 
on daily letter delivery and certainly not at a cost of $.44 a 
letter. This free market BS is just that. FRANC

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Kirby is so right about this:


At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote:

* Don't get me started on this.  The postal services are NOT a 
business.  They were never intended to be a business.  They are a 
government service.  We still need them, despite

what some who worship the free markets think.

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Well put, Richard. FRANC

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Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art
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Franc

people don't realize that the USPS is an integral part of our nations
history and that it was created as a vehicle to promote economic
benefit. For more than 150 years, Postmaster General was a Cabinet level
position (eliminated in the 1970s)
The original purpose of the USPS was to provide a way for newspapers,
magazines and advertising to reach consumers, which in turn created an
economic engine. This is still the purpose of the USPS. 70% of all
revenues come from bulk and commercial mailings (yeah that junkmail).
However, if we eliminate the USPS, the cost of shipping packages are
much higher with UPS and Fed-X and I have no doubt that it would kill my
business and other mail-order sales.

we need it and anyone who says otherwise is simply uninformed

At 11:42 AM 12/12/2011, Franc wrote:

Of course we need the post office. No commercial service would take on
daily letter delivery and certainly not at a cost of $.44 a letter. This
free market BS is just that. FRANC

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Posters + Comic Art

Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 1:31 PM

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Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

Kirby is so right about this:

At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote:

* Don't get me started on this.  The postal services are NOT a business.
They were never intended to be a business.  They are a government
service.  We still need them, despite

what some who worship the free markets think.

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Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

That's true but unlike USPS.com, stamps.com charges a monthly fee in
additional to the cost of postage. That's fine, if you get a lot of
foreign orders and need to avail yourself of this service but for one or
two foreign orders a month, it doesn't pay to do this, especially since
buyers like Helmut and lovenoir2 would object if you attempted to
amortized this fee in connection with the shipping fee for their orders.
FRANC

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contarino
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 12:33 PM
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Use stamps.com. you can ship First Class Int and get insurance and
tracking.

 

Peter Contarino

 

From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Kirby
McDaniel
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 11:50 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

 

I'm basically on the same page with Franc on this.  Domestic shipping is
a breeze for now.  What happens if and when the FEDS hand over the Post
Office to UPS or

FED EX is anybody's guess.*  We use USPS for most shipment.
International shipping has gotten very expensive.  It not uncommon for
the dollar amount of the

shipping to outstrip the value of the poster.  Yet some international
buyers do not balk at paying the money.  Last winter we shipped some
posters to the UK during

the extreme inclimate weather by First Class Mail.  These items were
hung up for over two months.  Fortunately and finally, all of these
items but one finally arrived.

 

We go to our local post office every day, so we do not have the same
strictures as those who do business on USPS.com .

 

 

 

* Don't get me started on this.  The postal services are NOT a business.
They were never intended to be a business.  They are a government
service.  We still need them, despite

what some who worship the free markets think.

 

Kirby McDaniel

www.movieart.net

 

 

On Dec 12, 2011, at 9:10 AM, Franc wrote:





Helmut  You can not pay for  First Class Mail on-line at USPS.com in
the US and to my knowledge you also can't buy a Certificate of Mailing
on-line in the US as proof of shipment. Nor so I believe Ebay or PayPal
will accept this as proof of shipment because they both insist on proof
of delivery. If a US seller ships Ebay sale items overseas the only
protection that the US seller will be offerred by Ebay and/or PayPal is
through Priority International which tracks delivery and is outrageously
expensive. It costs almost $40 to ship a lobby card from NY to England
by Priority International. I have to insist on it however for all
purchases over $150 in value in connection with buyers that I do not
know because I have been burned too often by foreign buyers who lie and
claim they did not receive my parcels when I have sent them by First
Class International Air Mail which does not provide tracking. One such
liar based in Italy named Giluvi even had the audacity to turn around
and sell the items he claims not to have received from me on Ebay and
Ebay would do nothing about it. So Ebay sellers are nopt trying to cheat
you when they insist on Priority International Postage. They are only
trying to protect themselves from frauds. FRANC

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Helmut Hamm
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 7:16 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
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Rich,

 

frankly, if I were to complain about a $5 overcharge in shipping, I
could post here every other day. For some reason, a vast number of eBay
sellers feel entitled for a $5 to $10 extra for shipping international,
sometimes even more. 

 

If I were to leave negative feedback for this, I would probably neg
about 50% of my eBay sellers.

 

And don't even get me started on the people who insist of shipping
International Priority, which has NO advantage for me whatever. If you
buy First Class Mail International postage online, you can purchase a
Certificate of Mailing for a mere $1.15 or so. This way you have a proof
of shipping for Paypal, and everybody could be happy. But no, I HAS to
be Priority Mail.

 

Almost anything I buy can be shipped for no more than $12 with First
Class, yet I constantly find myself confronted with guys asking $30 and
more for Priority Mail. How does an $18 overcharge sound to you?

 

Add the fact, that ANYTHING shipped Priority Mail is inevitably stopped
by customs these days, regardless of declared value. So evertime this
happens, I go on a three-hour round-trip to pick the darn thing up.

 

How's THAT compared to your $5 loss?

 

Cheers,

 

Helmut

 

 

Am 11.12.2011 um 21:44 schrieb Richard Halegua Comic Art:





so I buy an Ocean's 11 lobby card from a guy on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320802002865
item=320802002865 

his

Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

2011-12-12 Thread David Kusumoto


I'm a moderate conservative who swings left socially and right fiscally - yet I 
agree completely with what Kirby, Franc, Rich and others have said about how 
critical it is to preserve our beleaguered USPS.  Free markets cannot apply to 
a service that by law, goes EVERYWHERE.  Most people don't know the post office 
gets its revenue almost ENTIRELY through the sale of postage, NOT tax dollars.  
If the post office raised its first class rate for a one-ounce letter to $1, I 
would still pay it.  The idea that strangers in USPS uniforms will carry a 
letter for you for less than 50 cents - and deliver it to a rural location with 
a high degree of reliability - is amazing to me.  

I'm also a sucker for the neither rain, nor sleet nor snow, slogan long 
associated with the USPS.  That's what the USPS is all about.  I've been all 
over the world and in terms of reliability of delivery, we've got one of the 
best postal systems anywhere.  This is corny but what Franc wrote about the 
USPS as part of our nation's heritage rings true for me.  I try my best to 
greet my postal carrier every day.  Just last week, in the black of night, a 
different carrier, a younger woman, came to my door carrying a large box on her 
shoulder.  She had one of those those beamed LED lights attached to the front 
of her cap so she wouldn't fall.  She was late but determined to get through 
that day's deliveries that had turned quickly into night.  I assessed her 
situation in a few seconds and was in awe.  And the next day she no doubt went 
through the same thing all over again, elsewhere.

Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:31:22 -0800
From: sa...@comic-art.com
Subject: Re: Another fleabay Moron
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU



Kirby is so right about this:




At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote:


* Don't get me started on
this.  The postal services are NOT a business.  They were
never intended to be a business.  They are a government
service.  We still need them, despite

what some who worship the free markets
think.

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Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

2011-12-12 Thread Steven Hill

I'm with you, David, in fact I've said the same thing to various people for 
years, about how incredible it is that we pay less than 50 cents to hand 
someone 
an envelope and have them deliver it by hand a few days later anywhere else in 
the country.

People order pizzas and pay a delivery fee AND tip the driver a few dollars, 
essentially to save themselves a trip to the pizza place, but they balk at 
paying over 50 cents to have the postal service deliver their mail across the 
country. It's insane.

I wish the USPS would just raise first class postage to whatever amount would 
put them in the black. (And I think I read somewhere that all it would take 
would be $0.63 or something!)

(Sorry for contributing to the off topicness)

 --
Steven Warren Hill shil...@sbcglobal.net shil...@yahoo.com





From: David Kusumoto davidmkusum...@hotmail.com
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Mon, December 12, 2011 3:20:44 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

 
I'm a moderate conservative who swings left socially and right fiscally - yet I 
agree completely with what Kirby, Franc, Rich and others have said about how 
critical it is to preserve our beleaguered USPS.  Free markets cannot apply to 
a 
service that by law, goes EVERYWHERE.  Most people don't know the post office 
gets its revenue almost ENTIRELY through the sale of postage, NOT tax dollars.  
If the post office raised its first class rate for a one-ounce letter to $1, I 
would still pay it.  The idea that strangers in USPS uniforms will carry a 
letter for you for less than 50 cents - and deliver it to a rural location with 
a high degree of reliability - is amazing to me.  


I'm also a sucker for the neither rain, nor sleet nor snow, slogan long 
associated with the USPS.  That's what the USPS is all about.  I've been all 
over the world and in terms of reliability of delivery, we've got one of the 
best postal systems anywhere.  This is corny but what Franc wrote about the 
USPS 
as part of our nation's heritage rings true for me.  I try my best to greet my 
postal carrier every day.  Just last week, in the black of night, a different 
carrier, a younger woman, came to my door carrying a large box on her shoulder. 
 
She had one of those those beamed LED lights attached to the front of her cap 
so 
she wouldn't fall.  She was late but determined to get through that day's 
deliveries that had turned quickly into night.  I assessed her situation in a 
few seconds and was in awe.  And the next day she no doubt went through the 
same 
thing all over again, elsewhere.




Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:31:22 -0800
From: sa...@comic-art.com
Subject: Re: Another fleabay Moron
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU

Kirby is so right about this:


At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote:


* Don't get me started on this.  The postal services are NOT a business.  They 
were never intended to be a business.  They are a government service.  We still 
need them, despite
what some who worship the free markets think.
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Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

2011-12-12 Thread Richard Halegua Comic Art

there is nothing off-topic about a business integral to happy mail 
ordering of movie posters


I don't care what they charge for a letter - I rarely send such mail, 
except for Holiday cards next week - but the concept that  I would 
have to ship via UPS, which is considerably more expensive than USPS, 
is a scary thought. Such a move could be the end of small business 
mail order in America



At 01:41 PM 12/12/2011, Steven Hill wrote:
I'm with you, David, in fact I've said the same thing to various 
people for years, about how incredible it is that we pay less than 
50 cents to hand someone an envelope and have them deliver it by 
hand a few days later anywhere else in the country.


People order pizzas and pay a delivery fee AND tip the driver a few 
dollars, essentially to save themselves a trip to the pizza place, 
but they balk at paying over 50 cents to have the postal service 
deliver their mail across the country. It's insane.


I wish the USPS would just raise first class postage to whatever 
amount would put them in the black. (And I think I read somewhere 
that all it would take would be $0.63 or something!)


(Sorry for contributing to the off topicness)

--
Steven Warren Hill shil...@sbcglobal.net shil...@yahoo.com



From: David Kusumoto davidmkusum...@hotmail.com
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Mon, December 12, 2011 3:20:44 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

I'm a moderate conservative who swings left socially and right 
fiscally - yet I agree completely with what Kirby, Franc, Rich and 
others have said about how critical it is to preserve our 
beleaguered USPS.  Free markets cannot apply to a service that by 
law, goes EVERYWHERE.  Most people don't know the post office gets 
its revenue almost ENTIRELY through the sale of postage, NOT tax 
dollars.  If the post office raised its first class rate for a 
one-ounce letter to $1, I would still pay it.  The idea that 
strangers in USPS uniforms will carry a letter for you for less than 
50 cents - and deliver it to a rural location with a high degree of 
reliability - is amazing to me.


I'm also a sucker for the neither rain, nor sleet nor snow, slogan 
long associated with the USPS.  That's what the USPS is all 
about.  I've been all over the world and in terms of reliability of 
delivery, we've got one of the best postal systems anywhere.  This 
is corny but what Franc wrote about the USPS as part of our nation's 
heritage rings true for me.  I try my best to greet my postal 
carrier every day.  Just last week, in the black of night, a 
different carrier, a younger woman, came to my door carrying a large 
box on her shoulder.  She had one of those those beamed LED lights 
attached to the front of her cap so she wouldn't fall.  She was late 
but determined to get through that day's deliveries that had turned 
quickly into night.  I assessed her situation in a few seconds and 
was in awe.  And the next day she no doubt went through the same 
thing all over again, elsewhere.



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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:31:22 -0800
From: sa...@comic-art.com
Subject: Re: Another fleabay Moron
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU

Kirby is so right about this:


At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote:

* Don't get me started on this.  The postal services are NOT a 
business.  They were never intended to be a business.  They are a 
government service.  We still need them, despite

what some who worship the free markets think.

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Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

David, et al

If a small tax were levied on email and text messages -- and it wouldn't have 
to be very large either - the revenues
could be used to support snail mail 6 days a week for everybody.  And it would 
help to control spam and frivolous email
as well.  

When J Crew, L.L. Bean, Williams-Sonoma, Lands End and all these other good 
folks have to hand off that catalog
delivery business to UPS, then we'll hear a caterwauling for sure.

Personally, I really dislike UPS.  Here in Austin they simply will leave a 12 
thousand dollar package on your porch whether
a signature is required or not.  Either they just don't care or their drivers 
are intentionally ignoring it.  

FED EX is, of course, quite good where speed is necessary.  But the insurance 
things with them is not applicable to film posters.  I've posted
about this in the past.  If you insure a film poster with FED EX and it gets 
lost, they are not required to pay you.  Because works of art, 
collectibles, jewelry and furs are distinctly excepted from liability in their 
service manual. 

Kirby
www.movieart.net

 


On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:20 PM, David Kusumoto wrote:

 I'm a moderate conservative who swings left socially and right fiscally - yet 
 I agree completely with what Kirby, Franc, Rich and others have said about 
 how critical it is to preserve our beleaguered USPS.  Free markets cannot 
 apply to a service that by law, goes EVERYWHERE.  Most people don't know the 
 post office gets its revenue almost ENTIRELY through the sale of postage, NOT 
 tax dollars.  If the post office raised its first class rate for a one-ounce 
 letter to $1, I would still pay it.  The idea that strangers in USPS uniforms 
 will carry a letter for you for less than 50 cents - and deliver it to a 
 rural location with a high degree of reliability - is amazing to me.  
 
 I'm also a sucker for the neither rain, nor sleet nor snow, slogan long 
 associated with the USPS.  That's what the USPS is all about.  I've been all 
 over the world and in terms of reliability of delivery, we've got one of the 
 best postal systems anywhere.  This is corny but what Franc wrote about the 
 USPS as part of our nation's heritage rings true for me.  I try my best to 
 greet my postal carrier every day.  Just last week, in the black of night, a 
 different carrier, a younger woman, came to my door carrying a large box on 
 her shoulder.  She had one of those those beamed LED lights attached to the 
 front of her cap so she wouldn't fall.  She was late but determined to get 
 through that day's deliveries that had turned quickly into night.  I assessed 
 her situation in a few seconds and was in awe.  And the next day she no doubt 
 went through the same thing all over again, elsewhere.
 
 Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:31:22 -0800
 From: sa...@comic-art.com
 Subject: Re: Another fleabay Moron
 To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
 
 Kirby is so right about this:
 
 
 At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote:
 
 * Don't get me started on this.  The postal services are NOT a business.  
 They were never intended to be a business.  They are a government service.  
 We still need them, despite
 what some who worship the free markets think.
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Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

2011-12-12 Thread Richard Halegua Comic Art


I am not for a tax on email, except for spammers
if they had to pay a tax on email, I'd get a lot less of their 
garbage to deal with everyday



At 02:29 PM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote:

David, et al

If a small tax were levied on email and text messages -- and it 
wouldn't have to be very large either - the revenues
could be used to support snail mail 6 days a week for 
everybody.  And it would help to control spam and frivolous email

as well.

When J Crew, L.L. Bean, Williams-Sonoma, Lands End and all these 
other good folks have to hand off that catalog

delivery business to UPS, then we'll hear a caterwauling for sure.

Personally, I really dislike UPS.  Here in Austin they simply will 
leave a 12 thousand dollar package on your porch whether
a signature is required or not.  Either they just don't care or 
their drivers are intentionally ignoring it.


FED EX is, of course, quite good where speed is necessary.  But the 
insurance things with them is not applicable to film posters.  I've posted
about this in the past.  If you insure a film poster with FED EX 
and it gets lost, they are not required to pay you.  Because works of art,
collectibles, jewelry and furs are distinctly excepted from 
liability in their service manual.


Kirby
http://www.movieart.netwww.movieart.net




On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:20 PM, David Kusumoto wrote:

I'm a moderate conservative who swings left socially and right 
fiscally - yet I agree completely with what Kirby, Franc, Rich and 
others have said about how critical it is to preserve our 
beleaguered USPS.  Free markets cannot apply to a service that by 
law, goes EVERYWHERE.  Most people don't know the post office gets 
its revenue almost ENTIRELY through the sale of postage, NOT tax 
dollars.  If the post office raised its first class rate for a 
one-ounce letter to $1, I would still pay it.  The idea that 
strangers in USPS uniforms will carry a letter for you for less 
than 50 cents - and deliver it to a rural location with a high 
degree of reliability - is amazing to me.


I'm also a sucker for the neither rain, nor sleet nor snow, 
slogan long associated with the USPS.  That's what the USPS is all 
about.  I've been all over the world and in terms of reliability of 
delivery, we've got one of the best postal systems anywhere.  This 
is corny but what Franc wrote about the USPS as part of our 
nation's heritage rings true for me.  I try my best to greet my 
postal carrier every day.  Just last week, in the black of night, a 
different carrier, a younger woman, came to my door carrying a 
large box on her shoulder.  She had one of those those beamed LED 
lights attached to the front of her cap so she wouldn't fall.  She 
was late but determined to get through that day's deliveries that 
had turned quickly into night.  I assessed her situation in a few 
seconds and was in awe.  And the next day she no doubt went through 
the same thing all over again, elsewhere.



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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:31:22 -0800
From: mailto:sa...@comic-art.comsa...@comic-art.com
Subject: Re: Another fleabay Moron
To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUMoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU

Kirby is so right about this:


At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote:

* Don't get me started on this.  The postal services are NOT a 
business.  They were never intended to be a business.  They are a 
government service.  We still need them, despite

what some who worship the free markets think.

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Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

2011-12-12 Thread Sean Linkenback

You nailed it with FedEx Kirby.
If you file a claim with them, they are very quick to point out that they do 
not offer insurance at all (and they point to their service manual, which 
they never give you a copy of or have available to back them up).

They simply have a declared value section where they charge you an additional 
fee to transport packages that are worth more than $100.00

Of course this doesn't stop their clerks from asking if you would like to 
purchase insurance for your package.


-Original Message-
From: Kirby McDaniel [mailto:ki...@movieart.net]
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 05:29 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

David, et al
If a small tax were levied on email and text messages -- and it wouldn't have 
to be very large either - the revenues
could be used to support snail mail 6 days a week for everybody. And it would 
help to control spam and frivolous email
as well. 


When J Crew, L.L. Bean, Williams-Sonoma, Lands End and all these other good 
folks have to hand off that catalog
delivery business to UPS, then we'll hear a caterwauling for sure.


Personally, I really dislike UPS. Here in Austin they simply will leave a 12 
thousand dollar package on your porch whether
a signature is required or not. Either they just don't care or their drivers 
are intentionally ignoring it. 


FED EX is, of course, quite good where speed is necessary. But the insurance 
things with them is not applicable to film posters. I've posted
about this in the past. If you insure a film poster with FED EX and it gets 
lost, they are not required to pay you. Because works of art, 
collectibles, jewelry and furs are distinctly excepted from liability in their 
service manual. 


Kirby
www.movieart.net







On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:20 PM, David Kusumoto wrote:

I'm a moderate conservative who swings left socially and right fiscally - yet I 
agree completely with what Kirby, Franc, Rich and others have said about how 
critical it is to preserve our beleaguered USPS. Free markets cannot apply to a 
service that by law, goes EVERYWHERE. Most people don't know the post office 
gets its revenue almost ENTIRELY through the sale of postage, NOT tax dollars. 
If the post office raised its first class rate for a one-ounce letter to $1, I 
would still pay it. The idea that strangers in USPS uniforms will carry a 
letter for you for less than 50 cents - and deliver it to a rural location with 
a high degree of reliability - is amazing to me. 

I'm also a sucker for the neither rain, nor sleet nor snow, slogan long 
associated with the USPS. That's what the USPS is all about. I've been all over 
the world and in terms of reliability of delivery, we've got one of the best 
postal systems anywhere. This is corny but what Franc wrote about the USPS as 
part of our nation's heritage rings true for me. I try my best to greet my 
postal carrier every day. Just last week, in the black of night, a different 
carrier, a younger woman, came to my door carrying a large box on her shoulder. 
She had one of those those beamed LED lights attached to the front of her cap 
so she wouldn't fall. She was late but determined to get through that day's 
deliveries that had turned quickly into night. I assessed her situation in a 
few seconds and was in awe. And the next day she no doubt went through the same 
thing all over again, elsewhere.



Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:31:22 -0800
From:sa...@comic-art.com
Subject: Re: Another fleabay Moron
To:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU

Kirby is so right about this:


At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote:

* Don't get me started on this. The postal services are NOT a business. They 
were never intended to be a business. They are a government service. We still 
need them, despite
what some who worship the free markets think.Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web 
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Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

Absolutely.  You have explained it better than I have.

I have never been able to discern WHY they have this policy --- and NO ONE at 
Fed Ex -- and I have talked
to some folks very high up the food chain -- has been able to explain it to me.

Why they care what it is you are sending (as far as valuation goes) is beyond 
me.  The fee for upper levels of declared value 
act just like an insurance premium from what I can see.  So why it makes a 
difference what is being shipped -- I'm not smart
enough to figure that out.

I think they fear the inside job.

One can get good third party insurance for Fed EX shipments, and policy holders 
with Collectibles Insurance can
insure through them - it comes with the policy.

Kirby


On Dec 12, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Sean Linkenback wrote:

 You nailed it with FedEx Kirby.
 If you file a claim with them, they are very quick to point out that they do 
 not offer insurance at all (and they point to their service manual, which 
 they never give you a copy of or have available to back them up).
 
 They simply have a declared value section where they charge you an 
 additional fee to transport packages that are worth more than $100.00
 
 Of course this doesn't stop their clerks from asking if you would like to 
 purchase insurance for your package.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kirby McDaniel [mailto:ki...@movieart.net]
 Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 05:29 PM
 To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
 Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
 
 David, et al
 If a small tax were levied on email and text messages -- and it wouldn't have 
 to be very large either - the revenues
 could be used to support snail mail 6 days a week for everybody. And it would 
 help to control spam and frivolous email
 as well. 
 
 
 When J Crew, L.L. Bean, Williams-Sonoma, Lands End and all these other good 
 folks have to hand off that catalog
 delivery business to UPS, then we'll hear a caterwauling for sure.
 
 
 Personally, I really dislike UPS. Here in Austin they simply will leave a 12 
 thousand dollar package on your porch whether
 a signature is required or not. Either they just don't care or their drivers 
 are intentionally ignoring it. 
 
 
 FED EX is, of course, quite good where speed is necessary. But the insurance 
 things with them is not applicable to film posters. I've posted
 about this in the past. If you insure a film poster with FED EX and it gets 
 lost, they are not required to pay you. Because works of art, 
 collectibles, jewelry and furs are distinctly excepted from liability in 
 their service manual. 
 
 
 Kirby
 www.movieart.net
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:20 PM, David Kusumoto wrote:
 
 I'm a moderate conservative who swings left socially and right fiscally - yet 
 I agree completely with what Kirby, Franc, Rich and others have said about 
 how critical it is to preserve our beleaguered USPS. Free markets cannot 
 apply to a service that by law, goes EVERYWHERE. Most people don't know the 
 post office gets its revenue almost ENTIRELY through the sale of postage, NOT 
 tax dollars. If the post office raised its first class rate for a one-ounce 
 letter to $1, I would still pay it. The idea that strangers in USPS uniforms 
 will carry a letter for you for less than 50 cents - and deliver it to a 
 rural location with a high degree of reliability - is amazing to me. 
 
 I'm also a sucker for the neither rain, nor sleet nor snow, slogan long 
 associated with the USPS. That's what the USPS is all about. I've been all 
 over the world and in terms of reliability of delivery, we've got one of the 
 best postal systems anywhere. This is corny but what Franc wrote about the 
 USPS as part of our nation's heritage rings true for me. I try my best to 
 greet my postal carrier every day. Just last week, in the black of night, a 
 different carrier, a younger woman, came to my door carrying a large box on 
 her shoulder. She had one of those those beamed LED lights attached to the 
 front of her cap so she wouldn't fall. She was late but determined to get 
 through that day's deliveries that had turned quickly into night. I assessed 
 her situation in a few seconds and was in awe. And the next day she no doubt 
 went through the same thing all over again, elsewhere.
 
 
 
 Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:31:22 -0800
 From:sa...@comic-art.com
 Subject: Re: Another fleabay Moron
 To:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
 
 Kirby is so right about this:
 
 
 At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote:
 
 * Don't get me started on this. The postal services are NOT a business. They 
 were never intended to be a business. They are a government service. We still 
 need them, despite
 what some who worship the free markets think.Visit the MoPo Mailing List 
 Web Site 
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Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

2011-12-12 Thread Smith, Grey - 1367

Exactly, Kirby, third party insurance is the only way when using FedEx.
They have a real self serving deal going by offering insurance on items they 
will NOT insure and selling it all the time to the unsuspecting.
I understand Sean made them see it differently on at least one occasion, if I 
heard correctly, and think that's great. 
How many thousands of people will not protest once the diamond ring is lost and 
they have insured it with FedEx thinking all is well?
USPO offers Registered mail which is a very secure method as far as I'm 
concerned. It just takes the snail mail time frame, but you can insure up to 
hundreds of thousands of dollars.


-Original Message-
From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Kirby 
McDaniel
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 5:11 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

Absolutely.  You have explained it better than I have.

I have never been able to discern WHY they have this policy --- and NO ONE at 
Fed Ex -- and I have talked
to some folks very high up the food chain -- has been able to explain it to me.

Why they care what it is you are sending (as far as valuation goes) is beyond 
me.  The fee for upper levels of declared value 
act just like an insurance premium from what I can see.  So why it makes a 
difference what is being shipped -- I'm not smart
enough to figure that out.

I think they fear the inside job.

One can get good third party insurance for Fed EX shipments, and policy holders 
with Collectibles Insurance can
insure through them - it comes with the policy.

Kirby


On Dec 12, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Sean Linkenback wrote:

 You nailed it with FedEx Kirby.
 If you file a claim with them, they are very quick to point out that they do 
 not offer insurance at all (and they point to their service manual, which 
 they never give you a copy of or have available to back them up).
 
 They simply have a declared value section where they charge you an 
 additional fee to transport packages that are worth more than $100.00
 
 Of course this doesn't stop their clerks from asking if you would like to 
 purchase insurance for your package.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kirby McDaniel [mailto:ki...@movieart.net]
 Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 05:29 PM
 To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
 Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
 
 David, et al
 If a small tax were levied on email and text messages -- and it wouldn't have 
 to be very large either - the revenues
 could be used to support snail mail 6 days a week for everybody. And it would 
 help to control spam and frivolous email
 as well. 
 
 
 When J Crew, L.L. Bean, Williams-Sonoma, Lands End and all these other good 
 folks have to hand off that catalog
 delivery business to UPS, then we'll hear a caterwauling for sure.
 
 
 Personally, I really dislike UPS. Here in Austin they simply will leave a 12 
 thousand dollar package on your porch whether
 a signature is required or not. Either they just don't care or their drivers 
 are intentionally ignoring it. 
 
 
 FED EX is, of course, quite good where speed is necessary. But the insurance 
 things with them is not applicable to film posters. I've posted
 about this in the past. If you insure a film poster with FED EX and it gets 
 lost, they are not required to pay you. Because works of art, 
 collectibles, jewelry and furs are distinctly excepted from liability in 
 their service manual. 
 
 
 Kirby
 www.movieart.net
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:20 PM, David Kusumoto wrote:
 
 I'm a moderate conservative who swings left socially and right fiscally - yet 
 I agree completely with what Kirby, Franc, Rich and others have said about 
 how critical it is to preserve our beleaguered USPS. Free markets cannot 
 apply to a service that by law, goes EVERYWHERE. Most people don't know the 
 post office gets its revenue almost ENTIRELY through the sale of postage, NOT 
 tax dollars. If the post office raised its first class rate for a one-ounce 
 letter to $1, I would still pay it. The idea that strangers in USPS uniforms 
 will carry a letter for you for less than 50 cents - and deliver it to a 
 rural location with a high degree of reliability - is amazing to me. 
 
 I'm also a sucker for the neither rain, nor sleet nor snow, slogan long 
 associated with the USPS. That's what the USPS is all about. I've been all 
 over the world and in terms of reliability of delivery, we've got one of the 
 best postal systems anywhere. This is corny but what Franc wrote about the 
 USPS as part of our nation's heritage rings true for me. I try my best to 
 greet my postal carrier every day. Just last week, in the black of night, a 
 different carrier, a younger woman, came to my door carrying a large box on 
 her shoulder. She had one of those those beamed LED lights attached to the 
 front of her cap so she wouldn't fall. She was late but determined to get 
 through that day's deliveries that had

Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

2011-12-12 Thread Richard Halegua Comic Art


Grey is right about Registered Mail
people don't realize that every person at the post office that 
handles a Registered Mail item must sign a form so that every person 
in the chain can be identified if there is a loss and that any 
overnight stay it makes at any location, it is either in a vault or a 
locked cage that only one person at the post office can access


it's the single way that items over $50,000 can be shipped for 
financial security without having a specific insurance rider above 
that level in any policy



At 03:23 PM 12/12/2011, Smith, Grey - 1367 wrote:

Exactly, Kirby, third party insurance is the only way when using FedEx.
They have a real self serving deal going by offering insurance on 
items they will NOT insure and selling it all the time to the unsuspecting.
I understand Sean made them see it differently on at least one 
occasion, if I heard correctly, and think that's great.
How many thousands of people will not protest once the diamond ring 
is lost and they have insured it with FedEx thinking all is well?
USPO offers Registered mail which is a very secure method as far as 
I'm concerned. It just takes the snail mail time frame, but you can 
insure up to hundreds of thousands of dollars.



-Original Message-
From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of 
Kirby McDaniel

Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 5:11 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

Absolutely.  You have explained it better than I have.

I have never been able to discern WHY they have this policy --- and 
NO ONE at Fed Ex -- and I have talked
to some folks very high up the food chain -- has been able to 
explain it to me.


Why they care what it is you are sending (as far as valuation goes) 
is beyond me.  The fee for upper levels of declared value
act just like an insurance premium from what I can see.  So why it 
makes a difference what is being shipped -- I'm not smart

enough to figure that out.

I think they fear the inside job.

One can get good third party insurance for Fed EX shipments, and 
policy holders with Collectibles Insurance can

insure through them - it comes with the policy.

Kirby


On Dec 12, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Sean Linkenback wrote:

 You nailed it with FedEx Kirby.
 If you file a claim with them, they are very quick to point out 
that they do not offer insurance at all (and they point to their 
service manual, which they never give you a copy of or have 
available to back them up).


 They simply have a declared value section where they charge you 
an additional fee to transport packages that are worth more than $100.00


 Of course this doesn't stop their clerks from asking if you would 
like to purchase insurance for your package.



 -Original Message-
 From: Kirby McDaniel [mailto:ki...@movieart.net]
 Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 05:29 PM
 To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
 Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron

 David, et al
 If a small tax were levied on email and text messages -- and it 
wouldn't have to be very large either - the revenues
 could be used to support snail mail 6 days a week for everybody. 
And it would help to control spam and frivolous email

 as well.


 When J Crew, L.L. Bean, Williams-Sonoma, Lands End and all these 
other good folks have to hand off that catalog

 delivery business to UPS, then we'll hear a caterwauling for sure.


 Personally, I really dislike UPS. Here in Austin they simply will 
leave a 12 thousand dollar package on your porch whether
 a signature is required or not. Either they just don't care or 
their drivers are intentionally ignoring it.



 FED EX is, of course, quite good where speed is necessary. But 
the insurance things with them is not applicable to film posters. I've posted
 about this in the past. If you insure a film poster with FED EX 
and it gets lost, they are not required to pay you. Because works of art,
 collectibles, jewelry and furs are distinctly excepted from 
liability in their service manual.



 Kirby
 www.movieart.net







 On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:20 PM, David Kusumoto wrote:

 I'm a moderate conservative who swings left socially and right 
fiscally - yet I agree completely with what Kirby, Franc, Rich and 
others have said about how critical it is to preserve our 
beleaguered USPS. Free markets cannot apply to a service that by 
law, goes EVERYWHERE. Most people don't know the post office gets 
its revenue almost ENTIRELY through the sale of postage, NOT tax 
dollars. If the post office raised its first class rate for a 
one-ounce letter to $1, I would still pay it. The idea that 
strangers in USPS uniforms will carry a letter for you for less 
than 50 cents - and deliver it to a rural location with a high 
degree of reliability - is amazing to me.


 I'm also a sucker for the neither rain, nor sleet nor snow, 
slogan long associated with the USPS. That's what the USPS is all 
about. I've been all over the world and in terms

Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron