Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
Freeman Fisher flixs...@aol.com he posted yesterday At 08:34 PM 9/5/2010, Phil Edwards wrote: Hi, Can someone shoot me Freeman's latest email address, please? He seems to have disappeared from my address book. Thanks, Phil Phil Edwards http://www.cinemarts.comwww.cinemarts.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
Golly I didn't know I had become invisible. I AM STILL HERE! STILL HERE! HERE! ERE! RE! E! (poof) fwf On Sep 5, 2010, at 8:46 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: Freeman Fisher flixs...@aol.com he posted yesterday At 08:34 PM 9/5/2010, Phil Edwards wrote: Hi, Can someone shoot me Freeman's latest email address, please? He seems to have disappeared from my address book. Thanks, Phil Phil Edwards www.cinemarts.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
Who is Freeman Fisher and why is he saying those bad things about himself? - Original Message - From: Freeman Fisher To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2010 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher Golly I didn't know I had become invisible. I AM STILL HERE! STILL HERE! HERE! ERE! RE! E! (poof) fwf On Sep 5, 2010, at 8:46 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: Freeman Fisher flixs...@aol.com he posted yesterday At 08:34 PM 9/5/2010, Phil Edwards wrote: Hi, Can someone shoot me Freeman's latest email address, please? He seems to have disappeared from my address book. Thanks, Phil Phil Edwards www.cinemarts.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
Which tells me that should be the price including a buyer's premium, and if I'm buying from a seller that doesn't require a buyer's premium, I should be paying less. I certainly shouldn't be paying that sale price plus buyer's premium PLUS another buyer's premium on top of it. Otherwise, it's simply an artificial way for dealers to inch up the price. Because it sold for the hammer price. A Buyer's Premium -- or, in normal business parlance, a commission -- was added to that price after the auction. Craig. At 04:25 PM 7/16/2008, Smith, Grey - 1367 wrote: I would agree with Sean on this. When someone calls me and asks what a Creature from the Black Lagoon one sheet will bring, I will look at our archive and say, Here is what we have gotten for this item.. I would explain that the figure does include a Buyer's Premium, but that that is the going price in today's market. The Hammer price plus the Buyer's Premium is what the piece sold for and is thus, what the market should bring for the item. I have great respect for Rudy and his opinion, but I would always appraise value by what it brought in auction with the BP. -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sean Linkenback Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 6:12 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Miller You buy a house for $200,000. You pay taxes on the sale of $16,000. You buy a home warranty at the same time, through the realty company, for $1000. You've now paid $217,000. You wrote a check for $217,000. What is the value of the house? Now what if you find out that the Real Estate company got a commission from the home owners and that the owners received less than $200K. Whats the value of the house? What if the home was listed for $220K, but they accepted 200K, What if you sold the house the next day for $240K, what if a bear was walking in the woods, what if you find out Elvis slept in the house, Etc. etc., etc I would argue you cant count taxes and shipping, as they are costs that not every purchaser pays, but everyone pays the buyers premium. Im actually totally in shock at Rudys answer and hes the first appraiser Ive ever heard suggest such a thing. I was an appraiser for ASA, have done many more for insurance companies, estates, etc and never have heard of any other appraiser using the hammer price they look at the final sales price including premium. If anyone here on their insurance policy lists the hammer price as the value and not the full price with buyers premium (or if anyone lists what the sellers net received was) Id like to hear about it, as youd be the first I know of to do such a thing. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
At 04:11 PM 7/16/2008, Sean Linkenback wrote: From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Miller You buy a house for $200,000. You pay taxes on the sale of $16,000. You buy a home warranty at the same time, through the realty company, for $1000. You've now paid $217,000. You wrote a check for $217,000. What is the value of the house? Now what if you find out that the Real Estate company got a commission from the home owners and that the owners received less than $200K. What's the value of the house? What if the home was listed for $220K, but they accepted 200K, What if you sold the house the next day for $240K, what if a bear was walking in the woods, what if you find out Elvis slept in the house, Etc. etc., etc What the owners pay brokers is no more a reduction of the value of the house than what the buyers pay as BP to the auction house. Different brokers/realtors charge different commissions; a sale by owner has no commission. Some auctioneers charge different amounts of BP. A direct sale charges none. Bruce H. charges none. It's a variable cost-of-doing-business. It isn't part of the value of the poster or house. This is Economics 101. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
The fact is that the cost is different from the value. Let's say you just bought a brand new 2008 Toyota Camry. You paid $20,000. Plus sales tax (about $1700) and license fees (about $200, as a guess). Then you paid $650 for a wonderful extended warranty. That's $22,550 you've paid to the dealership. You spent $22,550. What is the value of the car? Craig. At 06:15 PM 7/15/2008, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: I agree with Sean At 05:29 PM 7/15/2008, Sean Linkenback wrote: From: MoPo List [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Heim Some people say value, some say cost, etc. I guess, for me personally, when I think of the value of a poster I purchased, I think of it in terms of how much money I had to give for that poster I used to think the same way Sue, but Bruces question of whether or not it matters if the buyers premium is 10% or a 100% has me rethinking everything. Now Im thinking that I can be the low price leader for items, but just charge a significant buyers premium on all purchases. How much is that Frankenstein Title Card? - Why its only $600, but there is a 5000% buyers premium. Thats a beautiful B-Style One Sheet for Citizen Kane, what was the price on that? I got it super cheap at Platinum Posters, they only charged me $1000 for it (not counting buyers premium of course). Yeah, theyre only charging $15 for Goldfinger one-sheets. It could even work when buying We normally sell This Gun For Hire one-sheets for $400 which is full appraised value, but Im in a good mood today and will pay you double value for your copy Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
easy... 20,000.00 jeff On Jul 16, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Craig Miller wrote: The fact is that the cost is different from the value. Let's say you just bought a brand new 2008 Toyota Camry. You paid $20,000. Plus sales tax (about $1700) and license fees (about $200, as a guess). Then you paid $650 for a wonderful extended warranty. That's $22,550 you've paid to the dealership. You spent $22,550. What is the value of the car? Craig. At 06:15 PM 7/15/2008, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: I agree with Sean At 05:29 PM 7/15/2008, Sean Linkenback wrote: From: MoPo List [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Heim …Some people say value, some say cost, etc. I guess, for me personally, when I think of the value of a poster I purchased, I think of it in terms of how much money I had to give for that poster… I used to think the same way Sue, but Bruce’s question of whether or not it matters if the buyer’s premium is 10% or a 100% has me rethinking everything. Now I’m thinking that I can be the low price leader for items, but just charge a significant “buyer’s premium” on all purchases. “How much is that Frankenstein Title Card?” - “Why it’s only $600, but there is a 5000% buyer’s premium.” “That’s a beautiful B-Style One Sheet for Citizen Kane, what was the price on that?” “I got it super cheap at Platinum Posters, they only charged me $1000 for it (not counting buyer’s premium of course).” “Yeah, they’re only charging $15 for Goldfinger one-sheets.” It could even work when buying – “We normally sell This Gun For Hire one-sheets for $400 which is full appraised value, but I’m in a good mood today and will pay you double value for your copy” Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
I thought the value of a car dropped about 20% the moment you drove it off the showroom floor. Alan On Jul 16, 2008, at 9:50 AM, Jeff Potokar wrote: easy... 20,000.00 jeff On Jul 16, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Craig Miller wrote: The fact is that the cost is different from the value. Let's say you just bought a brand new 2008 Toyota Camry. You paid $20,000. Plus sales tax (about $1700) and license fees (about $200, as a guess). Then you paid $650 for a wonderful extended warranty. That's $22,550 you've paid to the dealership. You spent $22,550. What is the value of the car? Craig. At 06:15 PM 7/15/2008, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: I agree with Sean At 05:29 PM 7/15/2008, Sean Linkenback wrote: From: MoPo List [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Heim …Some people say value, some say cost, etc. I guess, for me personally, when I think of the value of a poster I purchased, I think of it in terms of how much money I had to give for that poster… I used to think the same way Sue, but Bruce’s question of whether or not it matters if the buyer’s premium is 10% or a 100% has me rethinking everything. Now I’m thinking that I can be the low price leader for items, but just charge a significant “buyer’s premium” on all purchases. “How much is that Frankenstein Title Card?” - “Why it’s only $600, but there is a 5000% buyer’s premium.” “That’s a beautiful B-Style One Sheet for Citizen Kane, what was the price on that?” “I got it super cheap at Platinum Posters, they only charged me $1000 for it (not counting buyer’s premium of course).” “Yeah, they’re only charging $15 for Goldfinger one-sheets.” It could even work when buying – “We normally sell This Gun For Hire one-sheets for $400 which is full appraised value, but I’m in a good mood today and will pay you double value for your copy” Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. LINK TO AMAZON – JUST PUBLISHED FIRST NOVEL: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0595458203 MUSEUM WEBSITE: www.museumofmomandpopculture.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
The answer is easy; If the interior is linen, then it's Freeman's Jeep and it will only go up in value. Patrick On Jul 16, 2008, at 9:12 AM, Craig Miller wrote: The fact is that the cost is different from the value. Let's say you just bought a brand new 2008 Toyota Camry. You paid $20,000. Plus sales tax (about $1700) and license fees (about $200, as a guess). Then you paid $650 for a wonderful extended warranty. That's $22,550 you've paid to the dealership. You spent $22,550. What is the value of the car? Craig. At 06:15 PM 7/15/2008, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: I agree with Sean At 05:29 PM 7/15/2008, Sean Linkenback wrote: From: MoPo List [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Heim …Some people say value, some say cost, etc. I guess, for me personally, when I think of the value of a poster I purchased, I think of it in terms of how much money I had to give for that poster… I used to think the same way Sue, but Bruce’s question of whether or not it matters if the buyer’s premium is 10% or a 100% has me rethinking everything. Now I’m thinking that I can be the low price leader for items, but just charge a significant “buyer’s premium” on all purchases. “How much is that Frankenstein Title Card?” - “Why it’s only $600, but there is a 5000% buyer’s premium.” “That’s a beautiful B-Style One Sheet for Citizen Kane, what was the price on that?” “I got it super cheap at Platinum Posters, they only charged me $1000 for it (not counting buyer’s premium of course).” “Yeah, they’re only charging $15 for Goldfinger one-sheets.” It could even work when buying – “We normally sell This Gun For Hire one-sheets for $400 which is full appraised value, but I’m in a good mood today and will pay you double value for your copy” Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-LThe author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
Cost means nothing.. because as soon as you buy a car it devalues UNless you buy say a car that BECOMES a classic or is in short supply or like a deloren although you can still get a delorean for 15K.. from 1982.. as for return on investment ) ROI- its really interesting because IPO shares of Mictrosoft or those dot com seemed to make millionaires.. yet the cost was not that big initially.. thats why speculation which all on the group Mopo has done.. But the ones that bought .. notfor profit,,, but because they where turned on by the art and the film are the ones I relate to the money part was just a fuel to get more goodies.. and I never imagined it going so volitile.. as it has at the same time there has been lotsof good stuff happen also..- Like all the CGI and sound and Imax and all kinds of advances. value -is a concept.. as it can have a Blubook estimate value.. or market value.. however 9 out of 10 times a dealer would never pay that value unless thay had a waitin buyer that would pay enough to include a profit. Most dealers will ' knowck the goods or say the item has no value for years thats how dealers would buy.. Then we they were able to get collectors to consign with them they had no cost into it so no matter what they were garenteed payment and also paid to Organize the sale. so they get it in the front end and back end. ( no puns attended) As a business Posters have done well over a 20 year cycle. and the entire collectable circle has done well, However as we ammased beig cars and BIG houses we amassed BIG debt Why I consider my self experianced is that I did that too... I made 4 million selling Movie stuff and in 1990 was in debt 40 k on cards and 100k overall... then I lost my house, my marriage and have been limping alone since.. yet I also learned some stuff and part was that the stuff is just window decoration and not the stuff that matters. Yet I still like a car, a home , some food, and to be able to be in business. I have watched as many dont like the prospect of giving up things... and also are so caught up thinking about future money investments that they are forgeting about day -to day so they become slaves to the stuff and actions of getting it and so they do some desperate stuff . Value - what is it -well a pparaiser can use a formula- however think ... there are 1000s of Propertys right now with Values Of 6 million 500K etc. well Im sure there are people with the money... why dont they suck up the deals??? geeze they could make 10x thier money why dont they??? where are the speculators? well they already used up those people... just as they bilked the Poster Investors of thiers ... so Now I would suspect that the posters being sold in Large cashes are either dead collectors estates or people hoping to get out of the habit and do damge control to thier finances or re-fi thier debt. Im not saying all is doom and gloom there are still some people with money and still keep the commerce going and the Great titles are still saleable.. But most are as common and cheap to be had// I saw some on ebay of new unused that are retailing for 4.99 .. thats what a poster cost yeras ago.wholsale at same time there are more COMMON fold then there are select groups. so we live in a Target, walmart , best buy .. community now.. by the time 2 party familys pay the mortgage and gas and food and all the extras the disposable income is nil.. and how many secound incomes can you have? Nopedownizeing in eating, spending and consumption of oil and materilism stuff is in order and a Must for the Human race to survive and the planet. anybody care to walk in the park and get our endorphins and lungs workin? Brucey? Craig Miller wrote: The fact is that the cost is different from the value. Let's say you just bought a brand new 2008 Toyota Camry. You paid $20,000. Plus sales tax (about $1700) and license fees (about $200, as a guess). Then you paid $650 for a wonderful extended warranty. That's $22,550 you've paid to the dealership. You spent $22,550. What is the value of the car? Craig. At 06:15 PM 7/15/2008, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: I agree with Sean At 05:29 PM 7/15/2008, Sean Linkenback wrote: From: MoPo List [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Heim ...Some people say value, some say cost, etc. I guess, for me personally, when I think of the value of a poster I purchased, I think of it in terms of how much money I had to give for that poster... I used to think the same way Sue, but Bruce's question of whether or not it matters if the buyer's premium is 10% or a 100% has me rethinking everything. Now I'm thinking that I can be the low price leader for items, but just charge a significant buyer's premium on all purchases. How much is that Frankenstein Title Card? - Why it's only $600, but there is a 5000% buyer's premium. That's a beautiful
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
To whom? This is also a specious comparision because a collectible is not a commodity in quite the same way as a Toyota. K. On Jul 16, 2008, at 11:12 AM, Craig Miller wrote: The fact is that the cost is different from the value. Let's say you just bought a brand new 2008 Toyota Camry. You paid $20,000. Plus sales tax (about $1700) and license fees (about $200, as a guess). Then you paid $650 for a wonderful extended warranty. That's $22,550 you've paid to the dealership. You spent $22,550. What is the value of the car? Craig. At 06:15 PM 7/15/2008, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: I agree with Sean At 05:29 PM 7/15/2008, Sean Linkenback wrote: From: MoPo List [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Heim …Some people say value, some say cost, etc. I guess, for me personally, when I think of the value of a poster I purchased, I think of it in terms of how much money I had to give for that poster… I used to think the same way Sue, but Bruce’s question of whether or not it matters if the buyer’s premium is 10% or a 100% has me rethinking everything. Now I’m thinking that I can be the low price leader for items, but just charge a significant “buyer’s premium” on all purchases. “How much is that Frankenstein Title Card?” - “Why it’s only $600, but there is a 5000% buyer’s premium.” “That’s a beautiful B-Style One Sheet for Citizen Kane, what was the price on that?” “I got it super cheap at Platinum Posters, they only charged me $1000 for it (not counting buyer’s premium of course).” “Yeah, they’re only charging $15 for Goldfinger one-sheets.” It could even work when buying – “We normally sell This Gun For Hire one-sheets for $400 which is full appraised value, but I’m in a good mood today and will pay you double value for your copy” Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
this makes no sense the car you describe depreciates the moment you sign to buy it from the dealer and drive away (I am not referring to collectible antique cars because you named the specific car) a poster bought privately may appreciate the moment you buy it if you buy it at a right price and sell it immediately to a collector who wants it you are comparing apples with airplanes cjl **Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112) Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
actually I bet I could sell my Toyot at retail or more today because all the gas guzzler people would love one and Toyotas are in short supply... hense i made a good investment because I was cheap and because Ingrid liked Toyota Matrixs let this be written that I aknowledge a woman helped me make a good choice for a car.. _ a canadian from Montreal - viva las vegas!!!.. yep... the worlds comeing to a close soon as we know it... to bad... more canadians wouldnt give me advise like that... but then what the heck do I know... I am one sandwich short of a picnic -!!! Claude Litton wrote: this makes no sense the car you describe depreciates the moment you sign to buy it from the dealer and drive away (I am not referring to collectible antique cars because you named the specific car) a poster bought privately may appreciate the moment you buy it if you buy it at a right price and sell it immediately to a collector who wants it you are comparing apples with airplanes cjl Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
At 11:07 AM 7/16/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this makes no sense the car you describe depreciates the moment you sign to buy it from the dealer and drive away (I am not referring to collectible antique cars because you named the specific car) a poster bought privately may appreciate the moment you buy it if you buy it at a right price and sell it immediately to a collector who wants it you are comparing apples with airplanes No, I'm talking economics. Let's do my example again with a house. A house, like a poster, might appreciate or depreciate. But the economics are the same. You buy a house for $200,000. You pay taxes on the sale of $16,000. You buy a home warranty at the same time, through the realty company, for $1000. You've now paid $217,000. You wrote a check for $217,000. What is the value of the house? See, apples and apples. Something that could appreciate or depreciate. Sales tax is not part of the value. The home warranty is not part of the value. Money you might have paid a home inspector to check out the house is not part of the value. It's part of what you spent but it isn't part of the value. This is basic economics. There's a difference between cost and value. You might project a future increase in value that will bring it up above your cost; you may feel the pleasure you get from looking at your poster or living in your house is worth the extra cost, but it doesn't increase the current value. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
Oh boy do I love this topicif I buy a poster at auction for $1000, add tax if I bought it in state, buyers premium, and shipping what's the value of the poster. A year late I sell the poster at auction, for $1300 what's the value after seller's commission, what's the value to the new owner, what's the value listed in any archived databasewho really gives a crap... Quit your bitchin' and hang it on the wall for people to ogle over If you're buying a poster for value you are not a true collect. The only way I'll worry is if I need to contact my insurance company, then I'll take the law of averages...collections go up, collections go down From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Miller Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 3:46 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher At 11:07 AM 7/16/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this makes no sense the car you describe depreciates the moment you sign to buy it from the dealer and drive away (I am not referring to collectible antique cars because you named the specific car) a poster bought privately may appreciate the moment you buy it if you buy it at a right price and sell it immediately to a collector who wants it you are comparing apples with airplanes No, I'm talking economics. Let's do my example again with a house. A house, like a poster, might appreciate or depreciate. But the economics are the same. You buy a house for $200,000. You pay taxes on the sale of $16,000. You buy a home warranty at the same time, through the realty company, for $1000. You've now paid $217,000. You wrote a check for $217,000. What is the value of the house? See, apples and apples. Something that could appreciate or depreciate. Sales tax is not part of the value. The home warranty is not part of the value. Money you might have paid a home inspector to check out the house is not part of the value. It's part of what you spent but it isn't part of the value. This is basic economics. There's a difference between cost and value. You might project a future increase in value that will bring it up above your cost; you may feel the pleasure you get from looking at your poster or living in your house is worth the extra cost, but it doesn't increase the current value. Craig. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. _ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Miller You buy a house for $200,000. You pay taxes on the sale of $16,000. You buy a home warranty at the same time, through the realty company, for $1000. You've now paid $217,000. You wrote a check for $217,000. What is the value of the house? Now what if you find out that the Real Estate company got a commission from the home owners and that the owners received less than $200K. What's the value of the house? What if the home was listed for $220K, but they accepted 200K, What if you sold the house the next day for $240K, what if a bear was walking in the woods, what if you find out Elvis slept in the house, Etc. etc., etc I would argue you can't count taxes and shipping, as they are costs that not every purchaser pays, but everyone pays the buyer's premium. I'm actually totally in shock at Rudy's answer and he's the first appraiser I've ever heard suggest such a thing. I was an appraiser for ASA, have done many more for insurance companies, estates, etc and never have heard of any other appraiser using the hammer price - they look at the final sales price including premium. If anyone here on their insurance policy lists the hammer price as the value and not the full price with buyer's premium (or if anyone lists what the seller's net received was) I'd like to hear about it, as you'd be the first I know of to do such a thing. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
I would agree with Sean on this. When someone calls me and asks what a Creature from the Black Lagoon one sheet will bring, I will look at our archive and say, Here is what we have gotten for this item.. I would explain that the figure does include a Buyer's Premium, but that that is the going price in today's market. The Hammer price plus the Buyer's Premium is what the piece sold for and is thus, what the market should bring for the item. I have great respect for Rudy and his opinion, but I would always appraise value by what it brought in auction with the BP. -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sean Linkenback Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 6:12 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Miller You buy a house for $200,000. You pay taxes on the sale of $16,000. You buy a home warranty at the same time, through the realty company, for $1000. You've now paid $217,000. You wrote a check for $217,000. What is the value of the house? Now what if you find out that the Real Estate company got a commission from the home owners and that the owners received less than $200K. What’s the value of the house? What if the home was listed for $220K, but they accepted 200K, What if you sold the house the next day for $240K, what if a bear was walking in the woods, what if you find out Elvis slept in the house, Etc. etc., etc I would argue you can’t count taxes and shipping, as they are costs that not every purchaser pays, but everyone pays the buyer’s premium. I’m actually totally in shock at Rudy’s answer and he’s the first appraiser I’ve ever heard suggest such a thing. I was an appraiser for ASA, have done many more for insurance companies, estates, etc and never have heard of any other appraiser using the hammer price – they look at the final sales price including premium. If anyone here on their insurance policy lists the hammer price as the value and not the full price with buyer’s premium (or if anyone lists what the seller’s net received was) I’d like to hear about it, as you’d be the first I know of to do such a thing. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
David, I agree with you wholeheartedly on this issue. When I'm in the market for a particular one-sheet I always consider whether or not it's for investment purposes or for presentation purposes. If it's for presentation purposes (and by that I mean whether I plan to have it framed and displayed) than 9 times out of ten I prefer a one sheet that's linen-backed simply because it will look better in a frame. I don't like the look of a one sheet that's been folded and just stuck in a frame. If the one sheet has some minor fold separations sticking it in a frame can over time make the condition worse. The one sheet will inevitably slip in the frame and may chip further. When I buy a restored linen-backed poster, I look for one that doesn't have a lot of paper missing or defects such as bleed through that have simply been painted over and will reappear in time. Restoration has gotten a bad reputation because there are some auctions (and I am NOT referring to the Heritage auctions) in which posters are so badly restored in an attempt to deliberately deceive, that unless one personally inspects the pieces up for auction you can wind up buying a painting, not a poster. That's why I stopped buying long-distance from some of these questionable auctions. I also think the issue of condition has gotten ridiculous. When I began collecting in the early 70s, condition was usually described as Very Good or Generally Used and we knew what these terms meant. Ebay has marketed to a new audience that apparently doesn't understand that the point of collecting this movie paper ephemera is that it WAS used in the original distribution of the movies. They are now looking for pristine works of art. That's fine but I just don't think it worth the extra cost. I somewhat resent that the market value of these pieces is being wildly inflated by this new group of collectors and frankly I think the Heritage auction over the last weekend illustrates this point nicely. On the other hand, I don't mind the fact that the value of my personal collection has escalated tenfold to the point that I couldn't afford to purchase most of it at today. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Kusumoto Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:59 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher ** I've already covered the reasons why I think some people will remain lurkers so I won't re-visit that now. ** But I'm always suspicious of people so consumed by anything to the extent that the behavior itself -- borders on being -- in my view ONLY -- insane -- or dare I say it, ridiculously repetitive, if not moronic. Freeman Fisher is one of the most hilariously original and gifted commentators on earth. I don't agree with him all of the time, and yeah, maybe he doesn't always have good manners. ** But I confess my knee-reflex reaction to his post was closer to right on, Freeman! -- than bad Freeman!, bad Freeman! -- take him out to the woodshed! Bad Freeman! Here are my reasons: ** I can pull notes from the MoPo archive dating back several years -- where Michael has time and again RAILED against linen backing and restoration, denigrating the practice -- seeing no equivalence to restored paper in museums -- forever citing the apples aren't oranges argument to quash what conservators do in these places. I've always felt Michael's views make some collectors who buy restored paper feel misguided, if not stupid. ** Well, hey, man, not all of us are investors. We don't always give a s*** about what something costs OR its value! Some of us non-purists feel presentation is everything. Of course, we prefer unrestored paper, but something from 1919 is unlikely to turn up without chunks missing. What bugs me is I've always had the impression from Michael that backing and restoring paper ALWAYS taboo and then to get his incessant declarations that restored paper will ALWAYS fetch less in auction is so gallingly off base that I don't know where to start. ** Yes, I may definitely pay a premium for unrestored paper in VERY GOOD TO NEAR MINT CONDITION. But not always. For me, it all comes down to HOW TATTERED something presents itself at the point of sale. Our hobby emerged as an happy accident of people appreciating marketing materials intended to be thrown away. Unrestored paper that looks like rust water was sprayed over it or is riddled with worm holes, stains or rat s*** -- isn't appealing to me at all -- and exhibits the same faux character as junky, acid-filled newspaper that crumbles to dust. I'm not talking about fold lines. I'm talking about paper that's ragged ALL OVER. ** Michael prefers unrestored paper. Fine. So do most people. But to exclude even conservative restoration entirely from the equation -- is akin to saying a Grand Hotel one-sheet with chunks missing -- is ALWAYS going to fetch more than a restored version -- when so few from this title
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
I think I here what freeman are saying, - what the hell are a inbacked poster Michael? [sic] Ah don't we all miss the days when the spelling police patrolled our little list like the robots in THX 1138 So since I opened up this can of worms let me conclude - I do not agree with Michael's assessment that an unbacked unrestored poster is worth a premium...I can show you a few in my collection that would make your head spin and if placed them on ebay I'd be the laughing stock of the movie collecting world... however I do agree with the assessment that a mint unbacked unrestored poster is worth a premium as in the case of the 25k creature poster compared to the restored and linenbacked. I think Freeman was trying to point out the difference in the two statements. I have a Mole people with band-aids on it (no kidding), paper missing, stains, you name it..but it is unrestored and unbacked...in this condition $75 to $125 topsthe same poster on linen and restored, 500 to 800, a mint never backed, $1000-1400 Remember.wjen you buy INBACKED, UNRESTORED, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE GETTING, AND THEY ARE WORTH A PREMIUM Is there a rule on MOPO for the number of moronic statements a member can post in a week? freeman _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. _ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
I totally agree with the incisive retrospective of David K and would like to add a little. **Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112) Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
I totally agree with the incisive retrospective of David K. Most people collect posters but in a general way. There are certain collectors who are obsessive about certain subjects, actors or series. As everyone knows I am a collector of many genres but I started (and still continue) as a Charlie Chan collector. If I was solely obsessed with unrestored paper my collection would be miniscule and I would be missing such one sheets as The Black Camel, Charlie Chan at the Opera, Charlie Chan at the Circus and Charlie Chan in Shanghai. Most rare posters from before World War II are almost impossible to find in unrestored pristine condition. I bought the Charlie Chan at the Circus one sheet many years ago with a hole in the poster so large that I could place my fist through it and not touch paper. Fortunately it was in the credits and did not involve any faces. The restoration is as fine as is possible. I have seen only one Warner Oland one sheet in superior unrestored condition and would be very happy to pay a godly sum for any tattered one sheets that I still do not own. If anyone has any please email me as quickly as possible. The most important point that I feel should be expressed here is that we all have opinions about movie poster collecting. For someone to attempt to impose a standard on all collectors of only unrestored material being worthwhile, and utter it over and over again is ridiculous. There are many streets in this country to travel on (some are one way only). I guess one member prefers to drive exclusively on one way streets regardless of the time it takes to arrive at the desired destination. I prefer to remain on the Freeman Fisher highway. Claude L **Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112) Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
I have to agree with Claude on this one. Freeman is one of the nicest people I have met in this hobby. He is funny and very generous. I typically find his posts very thought provoking and usually hilarious. Sometimes, we humans, particularly out of frustration, say things that are misinterpreted. I know Freeman would never hurt someone intentionally. I know I have made that mistake and sometimes right here on MoPo. I say things because, in my mind, I am saying them to a group of friends I have known for a long time. I feel I am in trustworthy hands. I forget, though, that there are lurkers out there who may have another agenda. That certainly happened to me a few weeks ago right here on the group. So, we all live and learn and just like a marriage you have to take the good with the bad. Sue www.hollywoodposterframes.comhttp://www.hollywoodposterframes.com/ P.S..My post I started..O.Kwhere do you stand? about the buyer's premium was the most action I've had in months!! - Original Message - From: Claude Littonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher I have read all the posts for the last few days and I believe what Freeman wrote was directed at more than one comment and most likely out of frustration. Freeman Fisher is a wonderful person and I have enjoyed my relationship with him (through mopo, buying and selling and just conversing on the telephone). He is a great asset to mopo and as Kirby said, more people should post. I like reading comments even if I disagree with them. What I dislike are stupid one liners that are meant to be funny but are a total waste of time. (Now is the time to attack me for that statement but please keep in mind that I am a thick skinned old bird.)I have loved every post Freeman has made and may he keep doing what he does best, which is putting words together like no one else. He is in a class by himself. Claude L -- Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.comhttp://www.tourtracker.com/?NCID=aolmus0005000112! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
Sue: I don't know Freeman. He may be wonderful guy. But calling someone's opinion -- especially a thought out, defined opinion -- moronic is neither nice nor intelligent. He's saying no one is allowed to disagree with his opinion. Something nice people -- and polite people -- simply do not do. People are allowed to have differences of opinion. It's interesting to note throughout the hammer price/buyer's premium discussion, people who are poster dealers all agreed (all except Rudy, that is) that the buyer's premium *must* be added to the hammer price to determine the value of the poster. It's a philosophy that goes well toward raising the prices of their inventory. Are the dealers all so calculating as to want to artificially drive up the value of their merchandise? Perhaps not, but it isn't a difficult argument to make. Especially when the non-dealers all see it differently. And, only the dealers (and not just Freeman) have made comments that the people with differing opinions are stupid or fools or somesuch. Craig. At 10:24 AM 7/15/2008, Susan Heim wrote: I have to agree with Claude on this one. Freeman is one of the nicest people I have met in this hobby. He is funny and very generous. I typically find his posts very thought provoking and usually hilarious. Sometimes, we humans, particularly out of frustration, say things that are misinterpreted. I know Freeman would never hurt someone intentionally. I know I have made that mistake and sometimes right here on MoPo. I say things because, in my mind, I am saying them to a group of friends I have known for a long time. I feel I am in trustworthy hands. I forget, though, that there are lurkers out there who may have another agenda. That certainly happened to me a few weeks ago right here on the group. So, we all live and learn and just like a marriage you have to take the good with the bad. Sue http://www.hollywoodposterframes.comwww.hollywoodposterframes.com P.S..My post I started..O.Kwhere do you stand? about the buyer's premium was the most action I've had in months!! - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Claude Litton To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUMoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher I have read all the posts for the last few days and I believe what Freeman wrote was directed at more than one comment and most likely out of frustration. Freeman Fisher is a wonderful person and I have enjoyed my relationship with him (through mopo, buying and selling and just conversing on the telephone). He is a great asset to mopo and as Kirby said, more people should post. I like reading comments even if I disagree with them. What I dislike are stupid one liners that are meant to be funny but are a total waste of time. (Now is the time to attack me for that statement but please keep in mind that I am a thick skinned old bird.)I have loved every post Freeman has made and may he keep doing what he does best, which is putting words together like no one else. He is in a class by himself. Claude L -- Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112Check out TourTracker.com! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. ~ Craig MillerWolfmill Entertainment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
Hey Craig, I do appreciate your opinion. I know you as my customer, fellow movie poster collector and know you are a very fair person. My experiences with Freeman have been positive. As I said, sometimes we all steer away from our regular demeanor for whatever reasons, ie. bad day, frustrations, whatever. I was not condoning anyone's bad behavior. As for the buyer's premium thread, I started it because I really wanted to hear what others had to say, to some degree to substantiate my own feeling. I am not what you would call a dealer. While I have sold movie posters, it's not my regular thing right now. I stated right off that I feel the buyers premium should be included in the final value of the poster. I get the drift about adding your hotel bill, your cab ride, etc. but I figured the most people wouldn't take it that far, while it does bring up some interesting thinking. (However, next time I have an auction in Beverly Hills, I might have to add the cost of cupcakes at Sprinkles to my final poster value!!) I consider Rudy a friend and an expert. I read what he posted with interest and then realized that a lot of what we were all discussing and arguing about was really a semantics issue. As I read all of the comments, and I was offline for Sunday and Monday, so am just reading most of them this morning, I realize how varied the opinions are and, more importantly, that sometimes it is just a case of semantics. Some people say value, some say cost, etc. I guess, for me personally, when I think of the value of a poster I purchased, I think of it in terms of how much money I had to give for that poster. Since I never have a credit at any auction house, that never applies to me. Now, I hadn't even considered shipping costs. So, the thread was interesting to me to see how others view it. If someone asks me how much I pay, I usually quote the hammer price plus the buyer's premium. In fact, the shipping should be applied, but I hadn't even thought of that. I get customers who call me all the time and start the conversation with I have a stupid question. I tell them no question is stupid (I know some of you are saying corny, huh!!). Same goes here on the group. I hear questions that often come from a new collector that might seem rudimentary to us old fogies. But I understand the origin and go with it. I have answered framing questions, many of them very basic, ad nauseum to this group, but the same questions keep coming and I keep answering them. That's my contribution for the most part and, while some on the group may be sick of hearing the answers, I still get private emails from people here on the group all the time thanking me for the info. As always, thank you Scott, for providing this venue for us to discuss and learn, not only about movie poster issues, but human nature. Take care all, Sue www.hollywoodposterframes.comhttp://www.hollywoodposterframes.com/ - Original Message - From: Craig Millermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher Sue: I don't know Freeman. He may be wonderful guy. But calling someone's opinion -- especially a thought out, defined opinion -- moronic is neither nice nor intelligent. He's saying no one is allowed to disagree with his opinion. Something nice people -- and polite people -- simply do not do. People are allowed to have differences of opinion. It's interesting to note throughout the hammer price/buyer's premium discussion, people who are poster dealers all agreed (all except Rudy, that is) that the buyer's premium *must* be added to the hammer price to determine the value of the poster. It's a philosophy that goes well toward raising the prices of their inventory. Are the dealers all so calculating as to want to artificially drive up the value of their merchandise? Perhaps not, but it isn't a difficult argument to make. Especially when the non-dealers all see it differently. And, only the dealers (and not just Freeman) have made comments that the people with differing opinions are stupid or fools or somesuch. Craig. At 10:24 AM 7/15/2008, Susan Heim wrote: I have to agree with Claude on this one. Freeman is one of the nicest people I have met in this hobby. He is funny and very generous. I typically find his posts very thought provoking and usually hilarious. Sometimes, we humans, particularly out of frustration, say things that are misinterpreted. I know Freeman would never hurt someone intentionally. I know I have made that mistake and sometimes right here on MoPo. I say things because, in my mind, I am saying them to a group of friends I have known for a long time. I feel I am in trustworthy hands. I forget, though, that there are lurkers out there who may have another agenda. That certainly
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Heim .Some people say value, some say cost, etc. I guess, for me personally, when I think of the value of a poster I purchased, I think of it in terms of how much money I had to give for that poster. I used to think the same way Sue, but Bruce's question of whether or not it matters if the buyer's premium is 10% or a 100% has me rethinking everything. Now I'm thinking that I can be the low price leader for items, but just charge a significant buyer's premium on all purchases. How much is that Frankenstein Title Card? - Why it's only $600, but there is a 5000% buyer's premium. That's a beautiful B-Style One Sheet for Citizen Kane, what was the price on that? I got it super cheap at Platinum Posters, they only charged me $1000 for it (not counting buyer's premium of course). Yeah, they're only charging $15 for Goldfinger one-sheets. It could even work when buying - We normally sell This Gun For Hire one-sheets for $400 which is full appraised value, but I'm in a good mood today and will pay you double value for your copy Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
I agree with Sean At 05:29 PM 7/15/2008, Sean Linkenback wrote: From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Heim Some people say value, some say cost, etc. I guess, for me personally, when I think of the value of a poster I purchased, I think of it in terms of how much money I had to give for that poster I used to think the same way Sue, but Bruces question of whether or not it matters if the buyers premium is 10% or a 100% has me rethinking everything. Now Im thinking that I can be the low price leader for items, but just charge a significant buyers premium on all purchases. How much is that Frankenstein Title Card? - Why its only $600, but there is a 5000% buyers premium. Thats a beautiful B-Style One Sheet for Citizen Kane, what was the price on that? I got it super cheap at Platinum Posters, they only charged me $1000 for it (not counting buyers premium of course). Yeah, theyre only charging $15 for Goldfinger one-sheets. It could even work when buying We normally sell This Gun For Hire one-sheets for $400 which is full appraised value, but Im in a good mood today and will pay you double value for your copy Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher and Sean
Surely when you bid with HA or who ever that charges a BO, then you figure that into your cost before you bid and bid accordingly. I mean, you want a poster, you are willing to pay $x, then if there is a BP, you say OK, my bid is $x minus %x so at the end of the day I pay what Im willing to..? SO I assume everyone thinks that, and end of the day, the final value pre BP is whatever the % the particular auction house charges less than the particular buyers max value for themselves. Movie posters values arent fixed like other things can be. its what your willing to spend, and if theres another who is willing to spend a similar amount. Ari --- On Wed, 16/7/08, Ron Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ron Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher and Sean To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Received: Wednesday, 16 July, 2008, 12:35 PM Hey guys, that's some pretty funny and clever banter/witticisms you're treating us to. Have you ever thought of starting your own movie poster blog? And I have to agree with Alan, I'm popping some Orville Redenbacher Theatre Buttered Popcorn and sitting back for the nightly MoPo festivities. --- On Tue, 7/15/08, Sean Linkenback [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sean Linkenback [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 7:29 PM From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Heim .Some people say value, some say cost, etc. I guess, for me personally, when I think of the value of a poster I purchased, I think of it in terms of how much money I had to give for that poster. I used to think the same way Sue, but Bruce's question of whether or not it matters if the buyer's premium is 10% or a 100% has me rethinking everything. Now I'm thinking that I can be the low price leader for items, but just charge a significant buyer's premium on all purchases. How much is that Frankenstein Title Card? - Why it's only $600, but there is a 5000% buyer's premium. That's a beautiful B-Style One Sheet for Citizen Kane, what was the price on that? I got it super cheap at Platinum Posters, they only charged me $1000 for it (not counting buyer's premium of course). Yeah, they're only charging $15 for Goldfinger one-sheets. It could even work when buying - We normally sell This Gun For Hire one-sheets for $400 which is full appraised value, but I'm in a good mood today and will pay you double value for your copy Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Start at the new Yahoo!7 for a better online experience. www.yahoo7.com.au Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
Hi, all, I want to preface this by saying that I consider Freeman a friend of mine---he's as honorable a guy as I've ever met in my 25 or 30 years of movie poster collecting/dealing. On a couple of occasions in the past, I myself was called on the carpet by the group by making too many posts in one day--- I think the MoPo rule, no matter what kind of post is TWO. I notice lately that some members make as many as 1/2 a dozen or more posts in one 24 hour period. Apparently, nobody's going after these members for breaking the rules, as they went after me a year ago. I certainly don't condone the harshness of Freeman's comments. Nevertheless, I think if there is a standard rule about number of posts per day, then it should be adhered to by everyone. Tell me, has the rule changed? I'd surely like to know. Rick Ryan rixposterz **Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112) Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
Rick I think you were pointed out at that time because with very rare exception, all your posts are FA/FS Myself I think 1 FA/FS per day is more than enough.. on rare occasion I post a second in one day and only on Weds as my auctions are ending and if I feel people are missing out on great buys.. more than 2 posts of FA/FA is ridiculous in any case and more than 1 everyday is irritating by itself.. but tolerable as it is by the rulebook however back to Freeman.. I think his posts are being taken slightly out of context I mean isn't wjen you buy INBACKED, UNRESTORED, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE GETTING, AND THEY ARE WORTH A PREMIUM a partially un-intelligible statement anyway?? (you know I'm not getting on you Michael.. I like you buddy) however if Freeman was otherwise trying to embarrass you, then he should rightfully be ashamed of himself (you know I'm not getting on you Freeman. I like you too buddy) aside from that.. I'm not sure why anyone has such thin skin anyway Rich= At 04:14 PM 7/14/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all, I want to preface this by saying that I consider Freeman a friend of mine---he's as honorable a guy as I've ever met in my 25 or 30 years of movie poster collecting/dealing. On a couple of occasions in the past, I myself was called on the carpet by the group by making too many posts in one day--- I think the MoPo rule, no matter what kind of post is TWO. I notice lately that some members make as many as 1/2 a dozen or more posts in one 24 hour period. Apparently, nobody's going after these members for breaking the rules, as they went after me a year ago. I certainly don't condone the harshness of Freeman's comments. Nevertheless, I think if there is a standard rule about number of posts per day, then it should be adhered to by everyone. Tell me, has the rule changed? I'd surely like to know. Rick Ryan rixposterz -- Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112Check out TourTracker.com! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
I never knew such a rule existed. However, I will gladly adhere to it. Even though this post puts me over the limit for today. Patrick On Jul 14, 2008, at 4:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all, I want to preface this by saying that I consider Freeman a friend of mine---he's as honorable a guy as I've ever met in my 25 or 30 years of movie poster collecting/dealing. On a couple of occasions in the past, I myself was called on the carpet by the group by making too many posts in one day--- I think the MoPo rule, no matter what kind of post is TWO. I notice lately that some members make as many as 1/2 a dozen or more posts in one 24 hour period. Apparently, nobody's going after these members for breaking the rules, as they went after me a year ago. I certainly don't condone the harshness of Freeman's comments. Nevertheless, I think if there is a standard rule about number of posts per day, then it should be adhered to by everyone. Tell me, has the rule changed? I'd surely like to know. Rick Ryan rixposterz Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-LThe author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
I never knew such a rule existed.?? However, I will gladly adhere to it. Even though this post puts me over the limit for today. Patrick the rule limiting daily posts?seems?to be invoked by members (not scott, the room owner) when someone disgruntled obejects to the content of a posting.? yet, i didn't read freeman's?criticism for the number of my posts today, but, rather,?his disagreement with the content of my posting. scott has discussed this.? the spirit of MOPO appears to allow?members to comment to a thread.? considering the magnitude of interest in the heritage auction,?several different threads evolved.??comments included that unbacked, unrestored posters get premium prices.? freeman didn't like my confirmation of this belief.? so he made a stupid, knee jerk reaction to me, personally, in this public forum..? the Limit Rule is to avoid repetition of the same thoughts, and addresses advertisement.? I did neither.? Freeman objected to the content of my post about unrestored posters, so he tried to shoot the messenger.? in part, i responded to his grumpy approach because 4 people wrote to me privately asking me if i saw his?disparagement.? since my posting, several other members wrote to me privately showing their agreement that his post was improper. michael Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher, etc.
I beleive that there is a 4 post max rule that Scott has spoken about in the past it had been 2 for a long time.. then members asked for more... too much FA/FS is classless At 05:21 PM 7/14/2008, Michael B wrote: I never knew such a rule existed. However, I will gladly adhere to it. Even though this post puts me over the limit for today. Patrick the rule limiting daily posts seems to be invoked by members (not scott, the room owner) when someone disgruntled obejects to the content of a posting. yet, i didn't read freeman's criticism for the number of my posts today, but, rather, his disagreement with the content of my posting. scott has discussed this. the spirit of MOPO appears to allow members to comment to a thread. considering the magnitude of interest in the heritage auction, several different threads evolved. comments included that unbacked, unrestored posters get premium prices. freeman didn't like my confirmation of this belief. so he made a stupid, knee jerk reaction to me, personally, in this public forum.. the Limit Rule is to avoid repetition of the same thoughts, and addresses advertisement. I did neither. Freeman objected to the content of my post about unrestored posters, so he tried to shoot the messenger. in part, i responded to his grumpy approach because 4 people wrote to me privately asking me if i saw his disparagement. since my posting, several other members wrote to me privately showing their agreement that his post was improper. michael -- The Famous, the Infamous, the Lame - in your browser. http://toolbar.aol.com/tmz/download.html?NCID=aolcmp000514Get the TMZ Toolbar Now! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. At 05:20 PM 7/14/2008, Phil Edwards wrote: I always thought the 2 posts a day was relevant to the FA/FS posts, and that other ON TOPIC posts were not limited, and OFF TOPIC posts were tolerated up to a point amd provided they were marked OT. However, as there are far more members than ever post, I presume we can spread out the 2 post limit between those who can actually be bothered taking an active role in discussion at all. Scott, enquiring minds want to know? Best, Phil - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Patrick Michael Tupy To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUMoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher I never knew such a rule existed. However, I will gladly adhere to it. Even though this post puts me over the limit for today. Patrick On Jul 14, 2008, at 4:14 PM, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all, I want to preface this by saying that I consider Freeman a friend of mine---he's as honorable a guy as I've ever met in my 25 or 30 years of movie poster collecting/dealing. On a couple of occasions in the past, I myself was called on the carpet by the group by making too many posts in one day--- I think the MoPo rule, no matter what kind of post is TWO. I notice lately that some members make as many as 1/2 a dozen or more posts in one 24 hour period. Apparently, nobody's going after these members for breaking the rules, as they went after me a year ago. I certainly don't condone the harshness of Freeman's comments. Nevertheless, I think if there is a standard rule about number of posts per day, then it should be adhered to by everyone. Tell me, has the rule changed? I'd surely like to know. Rick Ryan rixposterz -- Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112Check out TourTracker.com! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
Michael, I read Freeman's comment completely differently. I didn't think he disagreed with you at all. I took it to mean that from his POV, he was commenting because he felt your statement was obvious and therefore needn't have been made at all. Let's all agree that words tossed about in a cavalier fashion can inflict pain and thus, we all would be wise to consider this before possibly hurting someone unintentionally. I cannot imagine that Freeman's intent was to hurt anyone, personally. Patrick On Jul 14, 2008, at 5:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never knew such a rule existed. However, I will gladly adhere to it. Even though this post puts me over the limit for today. Patrick the rule limiting daily posts seems to be invoked by members (not scott, the room owner) when someone disgruntled obejects to the content of a posting. yet, i didn't read freeman's criticism for the number of my posts today, but, rather, his disagreement with the content of my posting. scott has discussed this. the spirit of MOPO appears to allow members to comment to a thread. considering the magnitude of interest in the heritage auction, several different threads evolved. comments included that unbacked, unrestored posters get premium prices. freeman didn't like my confirmation of this belief. so he made a stupid, knee jerk reaction to me, personally, in this public forum.. the Limit Rule is to avoid repetition of the same thoughts, and addresses advertisement. I did neither. Freeman objected to the content of my post about unrestored posters, so he tried to shoot the messenger. in part, i responded to his grumpy approach because 4 people wrote to me privately asking me if i saw his disparagement. since my posting, several other members wrote to me privately showing their agreement that his post was improper. michael The Famous, the Infamous, the Lame - in your browser. Get the TMZ Toolbar Now! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
As most of the people on this list never post even ONE comment, ever, I do not feel bad if I exceed the more than three, I believe, limit. And if more than one of them is a FS or FA, well, that is what I do. Freeman Fisher is a good guy, a hoot and a friend of mine. When they made him, they threw away the mold. He will never be accused of being boring. I would LOVE to see all the people on this list post just ONE post whining about something, anything. Just to see who's out there! Kirby On Jul 14, 2008, at 6:52 PM, Patrick Michael Tupy wrote: I never knew such a rule existed. However, I will gladly adhere to it. Even though this post puts me over the limit for today. Patrick On Jul 14, 2008, at 4:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all, I want to preface this by saying that I consider Freeman a friend of mine---he's as honorable a guy as I've ever met in my 25 or 30 years of movie poster collecting/dealing. On a couple of occasions in the past, I myself was called on the carpet by the group by making too many posts in one day--- I think the MoPo rule, no matter what kind of post is TWO. I notice lately that some members make as many as 1/2 a dozen or more posts in one 24 hour period. Apparently, nobody's going after these members for breaking the rules, as they went after me a year ago. I certainly don't condone the harshness of Freeman's comments. Nevertheless, I think if there is a standard rule about number of posts per day, then it should be adhered to by everyone. Tell me, has the rule changed? I'd surely like to know. Rick Ryan rixposterz Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
I agree, I met Freeman many times...he is a good guy...sometimes he does go overboard BUT I do like most of his comments on topics...certainly he did not mean it badly...he is not boring at allI also did not mean my comment badly eithersarcastic is sometimes funny...anyhow...I do agreee many people never post anythingend and outPhilipp -Original Message- From: Kirby McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 5:42 pm Subject: Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher As most of the people on this list never post even ONE comment, ever, I do not feel bad if I exceed the more than three, I believe, limit. ?And if more than one of them is a FS or FA, well, that is what I do. ? Freeman Fisher is a good guy, a hoot and a friend of mine. ?When they made him, they threw away the mold. He will never be accused of being boring. I would LOVE to see all the people on this list post just ONE post whining about something, anything. ?Just to see who's out there! Kirby On Jul 14, 2008, at 6:52 PM, Patrick Michael Tupy wrote: I never knew such a rule existed.?? However, I will gladly adhere to it. Even though this post puts me over the limit for today. Patrick On Jul 14, 2008, at 4:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all, ? ? ? I want to preface this by saying that I consider Freeman a friend of mine---he's as honorable a guy as I've ever met in my 25 or 30 years of movie poster collecting/dealing. On a couple of occasions in the past, I myself was called on the carpet by the group by making too many posts in one day--- I think the MoPo rule, no matter what kind of post is TWO.? I notice lately that some members make as many as 1/2 a dozen or more posts in one 24 hour period.? Apparently, nobody's going after these members for breaking the rules, as they went after me a year ago.? I certainly don't condone the harshness of Freeman's comments. Nevertheless, I think if there is a standard rule about number of posts per day, then it should be adhered to by everyone.? Tell me, has the rule changed?? I'd surely like to know.? Rick Ryan rixposterz Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
I have read all the posts for the last few days and I believe what Freeman wrote was directed at more than one comment and most likely out of frustration. Freeman Fisher is a wonderful person and I have enjoyed my relationship with him (through mopo, buying and selling and just conversing on the telephone). He is a great asset to mopo and as Kirby said, more people should post. I like reading comments even if I disagree with them. What I dislike are stupid one liners that are meant to be funny but are a total waste of time. (Now is the time to attack me for that statement but please keep in mind that I am a thick skinned old bird.)I have loved every post Freeman has made and may he keep doing what he does best, which is putting words together like no one else. He is in a class by himself. Claude L **Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112) Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
I've known Freeman from afar, through MOPO and through poster dealings for a long time and I have a lot of time for him.very knowledgeable, engaging, fun and a straight-shooter. Regarding LB'ing.I LB everything, regardless of its original condition. I started years ago because, at the time, LB'd posters commanded a premium. Now, I just think they look better. I'm not afraid to hold a poster up to the light to see what has been done and I'm honest about my descriptions. Anyway, for me, thumbs up to Freeman and to LB'ing (although I see the other side of the LB'ing argument and consider it not a right or wrong, but a personal choice). DBT http://www.linkedin.com/in/douglasbtaylor Profile From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirby McDaniel Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:43 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher As most of the people on this list never post even ONE comment, ever, I do not feel bad if I exceed the more than three, I believe, limit. And if more than one of them is a FS or FA, well, that is what I do. Freeman Fisher is a good guy, a hoot and a friend of mine. When they made him, they threw away the mold. He will never be accused of being boring. I would LOVE to see all the people on this list post just ONE post whining about something, anything. Just to see who's out there! Kirby On Jul 14, 2008, at 6:52 PM, Patrick Michael Tupy wrote: I never knew such a rule existed. However, I will gladly adhere to it. Even though this post puts me over the limit for today. Patrick On Jul 14, 2008, at 4:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all, I want to preface this by saying that I consider Freeman a friend of mine---he's as honorable a guy as I've ever met in my 25 or 30 years of movie poster collecting/dealing. On a couple of occasions in the past, I myself was called on the carpet by the group by making too many posts in one day--- I think the MoPo rule, no matter what kind of post is TWO. I notice lately that some members make as many as 1/2 a dozen or more posts in one 24 hour period. Apparently, nobody's going after these members for breaking the rules, as they went after me a year ago. I certainly don't condone the harshness of Freeman's comments. Nevertheless, I think if there is a standard rule about number of posts per day, then it should be adhered to by everyone. Tell me, has the rule changed? I'd surely like to know. Rick Ryan rixposterz _ Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112 TourTracker.com! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
** I've already covered the reasons why I think some people will remain lurkers so I won't re-visit that now. ** But I'm always suspicious of people so consumed by anything to the extent that the behavior itself -- borders on being -- in my view ONLY -- insane -- or dare I say it, ridiculously repetitive, if not moronic. Freeman Fisher is one of the most hilariously original and gifted commentators on earth. I don't agree with him all of the time, and yeah, maybe he doesn't always have good manners. ** But I confess my knee-reflex reaction to his post was closer to right on, Freeman! -- than bad Freeman!, bad Freeman! -- take him out to the woodshed! Bad Freeman! Here are my reasons: ** I can pull notes from the MoPo archive dating back several years -- where Michael has time and again RAILED against linen backing and restoration, denigrating the practice -- seeing no equivalence to restored paper in museums -- forever citing the apples aren't oranges argument to quash what conservators do in these places. I've always felt Michael's views make some collectors who buy restored paper feel misguided, if not stupid. ** Well, hey, man, not all of us are investors. We don't always give a s*** about what something costs OR its value! Some of us non-purists feel presentation is everything. Of course, we prefer unrestored paper, but something from 1919 is unlikely to turn up without chunks missing. What bugs me is I've always had the impression from Michael that backing and restoring paper ALWAYS taboo and then to get his incessant declarations that restored paper will ALWAYS fetch less in auction is so gallingly off base that I don't know where to start. ** Yes, I may definitely pay a premium for unrestored paper in VERY GOOD TO NEAR MINT CONDITION. But not always. For me, it all comes down to HOW TATTERED something presents itself at the point of sale. Our hobby emerged as an happy accident of people appreciating marketing materials intended to be thrown away. Unrestored paper that looks like rust water was sprayed over it or is riddled with worm holes, stains or rat s*** -- isn't appealing to me at all -- and exhibits the same faux character as junky, acid-filled newspaper that crumbles to dust. I'm not talking about fold lines. I'm talking about paper that's ragged ALL OVER. ** Michael prefers unrestored paper. Fine. So do most people. But to exclude even conservative restoration entirely from the equation -- is akin to saying a Grand Hotel one-sheet with chunks missing -- is ALWAYS going to fetch more than a restored version -- when so few from this title exists. ** In the end, all that matters to many collectors -- is full disclosure about what was done before backing. And already the best sellers at MoPo are on board with this ideology so I don't the problem. We all know about Michael's unrestored Double Indemnity one-sheet -- he's told us about it. After he's gone -- I hope his heirs give his 64-year old gem the same care -- that will ensure its ETERNAL preservation -- (or at least through the year 2044, with a note on the back of the frame written in big block letters on PH-balanced paper for the movers who will read, DANGER -- PAPER FILLED WITH SOME ACID -- DO NOT EXPOSE to the SUN.) ** I doubt I'll get many public hear-hears about writing this but I couldn't help it. I'm just tired of people shng on backing and restoration -- which carries an undercurrent suggestion that sellers of such items are potential crooks. If one is that paranoid -- buy a black light to wave across your paper if you want. Or don't. -d. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
Anyone who attacks Claude shall do so at their own peril. K. On Jul 14, 2008, at 9:16 PM, Claude Litton wrote: I have read all the posts for the last few days and I believe what Freeman wrote was directed at more than one comment and most likely out of frustration. Freeman Fisher is a wonderful person and I have enjoyed my relationship with him (through mopo, buying and selling and just conversing on the telephone). He is a great asset to mopo and as Kirby said, more people should post. I like reading comments even if I disagree with them. What I dislike are stupid one liners that are meant to be funny but are a total waste of time. (Now is the time to attack me for that statement but please keep in mind that I am a thick skinned old bird.)I have loved every post Freeman has made and may he keep doing what he does best, which is putting words together like no one else. He is in a class by himself. Claude L Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
You asked for it, CL... 1__er C'mon Baby, dare me again! Andrea On Jul 14, 2008, at 10:16 PM, Claude Litton wrote: I have read all the posts for the last few days and I believe what Freeman wrote was directed at more than one comment and most likely out of frustration. Freeman Fisher is a wonderful person and I have enjoyed my relationship with him (through mopo, buying and selling and just conversing on the telephone). He is a great asset to mopo and as Kirby said, more people should post. I like reading comments even if I disagree with them. What I dislike are stupid one liners that are meant to be funny but are a total waste of time. (Now is the time to attack me for that statement but please keep in mind that I am a thick skinned old bird.)I have loved every post Freeman has made and may he keep doing what he does best, which is putting words together like no one else. He is in a class by himself. Claude L Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Let us resolve and work toward achieving some very simple propositions: There are no acceptable limits and there are no acceptable prejudices in the twenty-first century. - Sen Hillary Rodham Clinton Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher Claude
I attack Claude all the time -- via e-mail and on the phone. Of course, each time it takes several months for my broken bones to heal, but I've gotten used to being fitted with many plaster casts, some made out of his own prized plaster statues that he's pulverized/melted down out of guilt. But he more than makes up for it when he and his wife bring out a silver tray filled with glorious food and pastries and wine before he gets all avuncular (fatherly/paternal) and apologetic. As I've said before -- in person, Claude is a character right out of an RKO-movie. -d. Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:59:00 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Freeman FisherTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] who attacks Claude shall do so at their own peril. K. On Jul 14, 2008, at 9:16 PM, Claude Litton wrote: I have read all the posts for the last few days and I believe what Freeman wrote was directed at more than one comment and most likely out of frustration. Freeman Fisher is a wonderful person and I have enjoyed my relationship with him (through mopo, buying and selling and just conversing on the telephone). He is a great asset to mopo and as Kirby said, more people should post. I like reading comments even if I disagree with them. What I dislike are stupid one liners that are meant to be funny but are a total waste of time. (Now is the time to attack me for that statement but please keep in mind that I am a thick skinned old bird.)I have loved every post Freeman has made and may he keep doing what he does best, which is putting words together like no one else. He is in a class by himself. Claude L Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
Per Kirby's wish, I'll whine. There are way too many posts here recently -- all over nonsense. The buyer's premium issue was interesting at first but then became extremely irritating. I think all the belittling of people makes everyone look petty and uninteresting. Which is a shame because this seems to be an interesting group! I don't know Freeman. I won't claim he's my buddy or best friend. He seems okay though like most people here. At least he's got a sense of humor. He ought to be able to say what he wants w/o so much criticism. I'm beat -- lots of work to do at work and especially at home. I can't take the pettiness, the relentless self-promotion, and the hundreds of weekly e-mails anymore so I'm signing off -- for good. Want to wish everyone well. Lastly, since this is a movie poster forum and me, being a recovering poster addict, here's my last list of what's available for sale. Everything I've got is going to pay off bills and help jump start our 3 year old triplets' college fund. Wish us well! Please e-mail for any pics or pricing (and all ORIGINALS of course ...) Charade Insert Rocky Insert Pulp Fiction Daybill Spy Who Loved Me Insert The Sting Insert The Godfather Daybill The Graduate Double Crown 20x30 (1/2 of a double-feature quad) Raiders One Sheet (Re-release image) Star Wars Insert Empire Strikes Back Insert From Russia With Love Small French poster Casablanca 50th Anniversary poster The Natural (two commercial posters - great images) Right Stuff Insert The Natural Daybill Papillon Insert Diner Insert Bonnie and Clyde Insert Bonnie and Clyde Daybill Paper Moon Insert Alien Insert GoldenEye One Sheet - UK Version - Original Message From: Kirby McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:42:54 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher As most of the people on this list never post even ONE comment, ever, I do not feel bad if I exceed the more than three, I believe, limit. And if more than one of them is a FS or FA, well, that is what I do. Freeman Fisher is a good guy, a hoot and a friend of mine. When they made him, they threw away the mold. He will never be accused of being boring. I would LOVE to see all the people on this list post just ONE post whining about something, anything. Just to see who's out there! Kirby On Jul 14, 2008, at 6:52 PM, Patrick Michael Tupy wrote: I never knew such a rule existed. However, I will gladly adhere to it. Even though this post puts me over the limit for today. Patrick On Jul 14, 2008, at 4:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all, I want to preface this by saying that I consider Freeman a friend of mine---he's as honorable a guy as I've ever met in my 25 or 30 years of movie poster collecting/dealing. On a couple of occasions in the past, I myself was called on the carpet by the group by making too many posts in one day--- I think the MoPo rule, no matter what kind of post is TWO. I notice lately that some members make as many as 1/2 a dozen or more posts in one 24 hour period. Apparently, nobody's going after these members for breaking the rules, as they went after me a year ago. I certainly don't condone the harshness of Freeman's comments. Nevertheless, I think if there is a standard rule about number of posts per day, then it should be adhered to by everyone. Tell me, has the rule changed? I'd surely like to know. Rick Ryan rixposterz Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
I just reckon every is shit and we should ALL die. OK? Ari --- On Tue, 15/7/08, Freedom Lover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Freedom Lover [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Received: Tuesday, 15 July, 2008, 1:07 PM You asked for it, CL... 1__er C'mon Baby, dare me again! Andrea On Jul 14, 2008, at 10:16 PM, Claude Litton wrote: I have read all the posts for the last few days and I believe what Freeman wrote was directed at more than one comment and most likely out of frustration. Freeman Fisher is a wonderful person and I have enjoyed my relationship with him (through mopo, buying and selling and just conversing on the telephone). He is a great asset to mopo and as Kirby said, more people should post. I like reading comments even if I disagree with them. What I dislike are stupid one liners that are meant to be funny but are a total waste of time. (Now is the time to attack me for that statement but please keep in mind that I am a thick skinned old bird.)I have loved every post Freeman has made and may he keep doing what he does best, which is putting words together like no one else. He is in a class by himself. Claude L Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Let us resolve and work toward achieving some very simple propositions: There are no acceptable limits and there are no acceptable prejudices in the twenty-first century. - Sen Hillary Rodham Clinton Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Start at the new Yahoo!7 for a better online experience. www.yahoo7.com.au Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Freeman Fisher
Rick wrote: has the rule changed? I'd surely like to know I propose waiving the 2 FA post limit solely for Rick, and then let's see how many times a day he sends us FA posts, and then we can decide if there are any other people we want to make exceptions for. It would be an interesting experiment, and for those of you who would not want to read them, isn't that why God invented the delete key? Bruce On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 6:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all, I want to preface this by saying that I consider Freeman a friend of mine---he's as honorable a guy as I've ever met in my 25 or 30 years of movie poster collecting/dealing. On a couple of occasions in the past, I myself was called on the carpet by the group by making too many posts in one day--- I think the MoPo rule, no matter what kind of post is TWO. I notice lately that some members make as many as 1/2 a dozen or more posts in one 24 hour period. Apparently, nobody's going after these members for breaking the rules, as they went after me a year ago. I certainly don't condone the harshness of Freeman's comments. Nevertheless, I think if there is a standard rule about number of posts per day, then it should be adhered to by everyone. Tell me, has the rule changed? I'd surely like to know. Rick Ryan rixposterz -- Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.comhttp://www.tourtracker.com/?NCID=aolmus0005000112 ! Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
