Re: [neonixie-l] What is this connector called?

2018-09-26 Thread gregebert
I've seen 2 types of grabbers

   - Cheaper ones that are a simple 'J' shape to reach around a pin. They 
   work fairly well with 0.1" pitch devices.  I got a bunch of these with an 
   HP Logic Analyzer.
   - Similar to the picture above, almost like a pair of arms that hug the 
   pin. With some patience, you can grab onto 0.05" pitch devices. They 
   hold-on very well and once they are secured they wont short against 
   adjacent pins. 

The only drawback is that these grabbers require a jumper-wire to be 
connected, and they pop-off easily.

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Re: [neonixie-l] What is this connector called?

2018-09-26 Thread 'John Rehwinkel' via neonixie-l
Digikey has a variety of very appealing versions.

https://www.digikey.com/products/en/test-and-measurement/test-clips-grabbers-hooks/620
 


The ones pictured look like Pomona Micrograbbers:

https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/pomona-electronics/5790-0/501-1387-ND/737448
 


Other possibilities:

https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/cal-test-electronics/CT2487/BKCT2487-ND/5765486
 


https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/tpi-test-products-int/MC1R/290-1121-ND/31
 


- John


> On Sep 26, 2018, at 8:33 PM, Terry S  wrote:
> 
> Typically referred to as micro-grabbers.
> 
> On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 7:14:05 PM UTC-5, Jens Boos wrote:
> Hello friends,
> 
> I am currently setting up a new way of photographing Nixie tubes which will 
> hopefully result in better quality pictures. To that end, I am also 
> considering using different connectors to the Nixie tube pins. I was thinking 
> about these:
> 
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/P5003-Jumper-Analyzer-Testing-Accessories/dp/B07FQLHTBM/
>  
> 
> I have no idea what they are called in technical terms, and the Amazon 
> listing is also kind of vague. I am asking since I want to purchase these at 
> Digikey or Mouser along with a bunch of other components, but it is hard to 
> look for these without having the proper term.
> 
> Can anybody help? It is greatly appreciated!
> 
> Best wishes
> Jens
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[neonixie-l] Re: What is this connector called?

2018-09-26 Thread Terry S
Typically referred to as micro-grabbers.

On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 7:14:05 PM UTC-5, Jens Boos wrote:
>
> Hello friends,
>
> I am currently setting up a new way of photographing Nixie tubes which 
> will hopefully result in better quality pictures. To that end, I am also 
> considering using different connectors to the Nixie tube pins. I was 
> thinking about these:
>
> [image: P5003 10Pcs Mini IC Test Hook Clip Jumper Probe Logic Analyzer 
> Testing Accessories - Measurement & Analysis Instruments Digital 
> Multimeters & Oscilloscopes - 10 x P5003 10Pcs Mini Grabber SMD]
>
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/P5003-Jumper-Analyzer-Testing-Accessories/dp/B07FQLHTBM/
>
> I have no idea what they are called in technical terms, and the Amazon 
> listing is also kind of vague. I am asking since I want to purchase these 
> at Digikey or Mouser along with a bunch of other components, but it is hard 
> to look for these without having the proper term.
>
> Can anybody help? It is greatly appreciated!
>
> Best wishes
> Jens
>

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[neonixie-l] What is this connector called?

2018-09-26 Thread jb-electronics

Hello friends,

I am currently setting up a new way of photographing Nixie tubes which 
will hopefully result in better quality pictures. To that end, I am also 
considering using different connectors to the Nixie tube pins. I was 
thinking about these:


P5003 10Pcs Mini IC Test Hook Clip Jumper Probe Logic Analyzer Testing 
Accessories - Measurement & Analysis Instruments Digital Multimeters & 
Oscilloscopes - 10 x P5003 10Pcs Mini Grabber SMD


https://www.amazon.com/P5003-Jumper-Analyzer-Testing-Accessories/dp/B07FQLHTBM/

I have no idea what they are called in technical terms, and the Amazon 
listing is also kind of vague. I am asking since I want to purchase 
these at Digikey or Mouser along with a bunch of other components, but 
it is hard to look for these without having the proper term.


Can anybody help? It is greatly appreciated!

Best wishes
Jens

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[neonixie-l] Re: old fashioned pcb

2018-09-26 Thread Tomasz Kowalczyk
I personally don't like white PCBs, as they are really bright and always 
reflect light, even from nixies themselves - and I really enjoy my clocks 
digits  being the only thing visible in my dark room at night. Also, 
debugging a white PCB is a nightmare, traces are impossible to follow.
On the other hand, it looks very proffesional, like a  high-end product - 
with elements sticking out of a flat, uniform surface. And I have to agree 
that blue resistors really go well with white background.
Anyway, great job on the clock! Looks great.


W dniu środa, 26 września 2018 20:59:27 UTC+2 użytkownik Paul Andrews 
napisał:
>
> I love the old PCBs with their curved traces. I wish modern CAD programs 
> had more flair. Have you seen these PCBs: https://www.boldport.com/ ?
>

I think you'd like the TopoR autorouter. 
 

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[neonixie-l] Re: old fashioned pcb

2018-09-26 Thread Paul Andrews
Nice looking clock. I really need to stop getting distracted and build an 
actual full Nixie clock.

As I came to this late in life, my first PCBs were all surface mount.

For my ITS1A clock, I went full through-hole. The ESP-01 is a bit of a 
stretch, but for the builder it is still through-hole. It was both 
satisfying and frustrating. Frustrating because it limited the amount of 
functionality I could cram onto the board.

I love the old PCBs with their curved traces. I wish modern CAD programs 
had more flair. Have you seen these PCBs: https://www.boldport.com/ ?

On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 3:26:47 AM UTC-4, newxito wrote:
>
> I wanted to design an old-fashioned circuit board, 100% through-hole and 
> no HV driver chips. That's the result. I just started to assemble it, still 
> a lot to do. I switched to white, I like the blue metal film resistors on 
> the white background :-)
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: old fashioned pcb

2018-09-26 Thread gregebert
Pretty amazing how the white soldermask practically hides the plated-thru 
holes. Best "modern retro PCB"  I've ever seen !!

I'm too far into the dark side with SMT for area and cost reasons to go 
back to thru-hole-only

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[neonixie-l] Re: old fashioned pcb

2018-09-26 Thread Nick Sargeant
When I first started making my own PCBs, I used to get SRBP boards from a 
small shop where they sold off-cuts, scored them with a knife and peeled 
off the unwanted copper. If you lifted up a corner with a knife, it worked. 
My boards had copper in big rectangular patterns, with holes wherever the 
drill bit would stop slipping around. When the world started switching over 
to fibreglass boards, they were much more difficult to peel - i ended up 
with more fingers bleeding from cut edges, and I changed to a resist pen 
and ferric chloride. I loved doing curvy traces, just like the PCBs from my 
favourite HP equipment. I realised FeCl etched all metals, not just copper 
when I tried to do my first etchings in an aluminium tray .. the FeCl went 
right through the tray and went on eating into the concrete floor of the 
garage. (a scene that Ridley Scott stole later for Alien). I blame giving 
up Chemistry before O level exams at school - an excuse my father didn't 
accept. 

Brown SRBP boards had a particular odour when you drilled them, or soldered 
them, and I still refer to those moments when the magic smoke escapes as 
'the nasty brown smell'. 

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: old fashioned pcb

2018-09-26 Thread Jeff Walton
Fahnenstock spring clips!  I looked at the Radio Shack and saw these listed. 
It's been 50 years since I thought of these and almost as long since I've seen 
any... 
Jeff
 Original message From: jb-electronics 
 Date: 9/26/18  11:57 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: 
neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: old fashioned pcb 

I quite enjoyed these types of PCB when
  collecting old radios and other pieces of electronics as a kid, it
  was a lot easier to salvage them for components!

  

  Cheers

  Jens

  

  On 9/26/2018 10:50 AM, J Forbes wrote:



  
  

I guess I'm old, too. I think brown phenolic, with the
  traces drawn with an etch resist pen, and none of the holes
  are in quite the right places, because it was drilled by hand.



http://www.radioshackcatalogs.com/catalogs/1972-b/pages/098.jpg






  
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: old fashioned pcb

2018-09-26 Thread jb-electronics
I quite enjoyed these types of PCB when collecting old radios and other 
pieces of electronics as a kid, it was a lot easier to salvage them for 
components!


Cheers
Jens

On 9/26/2018 10:50 AM, J Forbes wrote:


I guess I'm old, too. I think brown phenolic, with the traces drawn 
with an etch resist pen, and none of the holes are in quite the right 
places, because it was drilled by hand.


http://www.radioshackcatalogs.com/catalogs/1972-b/pages/098.jpg


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[neonixie-l] Re: old fashioned pcb

2018-09-26 Thread J Forbes

I guess I'm old, too. I think brown phenolic, with the traces drawn with an 
etch resist pen, and none of the holes are in quite the right places, 
because it was drilled by hand.

http://www.radioshackcatalogs.com/catalogs/1972-b/pages/098.jpg


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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: old fashioned pcb

2018-09-26 Thread Steven Donaldson
Wow!  That looks impressive!



On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 8:44 AM newxito  wrote:

> The board is now fully assembled, everything seems to work fine…
>
> Thanks for the recommendation about the sockets.
>
> There are 64 1/4 watt resistors standing vertical :-)
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[neonixie-l] Re: old fashioned pcb

2018-09-26 Thread newxito
 

The board is now fully assembled, everything seems to work fine…

Thanks for the recommendation about the sockets.

There are 64 1/4 watt resistors standing vertical :-) 

>

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[neonixie-l] Re: old fashioned pcb

2018-09-26 Thread Terry S
I love the look of a complex, well thought out old school PCB. My only 
comment would be avoid those cheap IC sockets, spend the extra money and 
use machined pin sockets. 

Terry

On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 2:26:47 AM UTC-5, newxito wrote:
>
> I wanted to design an old-fashioned circuit board, 100% through-hole and 
> no HV driver chips. That's the result. I just started to assemble it, still 
> a lot to do. I switched to white, I like the blue metal film resistors on 
> the white background :-)
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] old fashioned pcb

2018-09-26 Thread Joe Croft
Nice board, thugh I guess I must be getting old. When I read the description I 
was thinking a single sided, no silk screen, brown phenolic board with 1/4 wat 
restors standing vertical. Thank God I am not so old that the board  in my mind 
didn't have transistors.

-joe

On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 2:26:47 AM CDT newxito wrote:
> I wanted to design an old-fashioned circuit board, 100% through-hole and no 
> HV driver chips. That's the result. I just started to assemble it, still a 
> lot to do. I switched to white, I like the blue metal film resistors on the 
> white background :-)
> 
> 


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