Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] New Honda

[Paul]

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 9:31 PM, Dan Cook  wrote:

> You think automatic transmission bikes will ever be the norm?


The norm? ​I tend to doubt it...just because people's habits don't change
easily, but I DO think they WILL get more popular.​


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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] New Honda

[Dan Cook]

You think automatic transmission bikes will ever be the norm?

It's awful trying to find a standard transmission car these days!

On Sep 16, 2016 5:42 PM, "Paul"  wrote:

> Honda confirms adventure scooter for 2017
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Noob stuff

[Dan Cook]

Thanks, Lar. I did take an MSF course this summer. No way I'd be on the
road without having taken that. But if we learned about lane positioning, I
must have zoned out. I don't recall any questions about it on either my
permit test or the written MSF test.

Regarding countersteering and leaning... I get that the act of
countersteering does cause the bike to lean, so it really is a way of
leaning. I should have phrased my thought differently. I'm really wondering
more about body positioning. When I go into a corner, I am most comfortable
staying pretty much upright and letting the countersteer take care of the
lean. I get a better view of what's ahead, for one, and I feel more stable
on the bike than if I lean my body too. However, I've read and seen videos
that say to lean your body as well. I guess I'm just wondering how you all
feel about this.

On Sep 16, 2016 6:05 PM, "Lar Lar"  wrote:

> Left part of your lane is called the "blocking position" and should be
> used if any car is behind you.  Motorcycle test here would put a mark
> against you if your were in any other position.  If it's a 4 lane highway
> and your in the left lane then you should be in the right part of that
> lane, again you would be tested for that in a proper motorcycle license
> test. Center of a lane has chances of oil on your tires which will be very
> dangerous.  Consider taking a motorcycle course if there is one in your
> area, it could save your life.  Motorcycles are fun but what you don't know
> can bite you hard down the road.
>
> Counter steering is what motorcycle and even bicycles are all about.
> Gravel on the road, just roll over it.  If it in a corner, you should be
> looking farther ahead into the turn so you can drop speed before you come
> to it.
>
> Glasses, yup put the helmet on and wiggle the glasses in there, it only
> take 10 seconds.  Sound to me like your helmet is the right size, it's no
> good if it's too loose and helmets will loosen up with use.
>
> Cheers
>
> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 12:23:17 PM UTC-4, Dan Cook wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> A few things on my mind as I enter month two of riding. Any thoughts?
>>
>> - should I ride in the center of the lane whenever possible? I've heard
>> varying ideas here. Generally I'm more comfortable in the center. Oncoming
>> traffic could destroy me. Gravel or other crap on the side of the road is
>> no good either. But I have still heard people say that the center isn't the
>> place to be.
>>
>> - if I see gravel on the road and there's no avoiding it, what's the best
>> course of action? My instinct is simply to avoid braking or accelerating
>> and just try to roll on over it. In corner, obviously this is more
>> dangerous.
>>
>> - when not shifting or braking, balls of the feet on the pegs, or remain
>> ready to brake/shift?
>>
>> - how important is leaning in a curve? My very limited experience
>> (including a corner lowside) tells me that countersteering is plenty for
>> any corner.
>>
>> - I wear contact lenses. However, for about a month I've been out of them
>> and had to wear my glasses. How do you put your helmet on with glasses? I
>> have to take off the glasses, put on the helmet, then snake the glasses
>> between the helmet padding and my ears until I find the right spot. It's
>> really a pain in the ass. I wonder if my helmet is a little too tight.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Dan
>>
>> (And this is all relevant to this list, of course, because I'm wondering
>> all this while on my Nighthawk 250.)
>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Noob stuff

[Kyle Munz]

Lar,
I tend to do that naturally just to discourage cars from sharing my lane,
but in Texas the BRC and the DMV test don't cover lane positions. Good info
though.


-Kyle

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Lar Lar  wrote:

> Left part of your lane is called the "blocking position" and should be
> used if any car is behind you.  Motorcycle test here would put a mark
> against you if your were in any other position.  If it's a 4 lane highway
> and your in the left lane then you should be in the right part of that
> lane, again you would be tested for that in a proper motorcycle license
> test. Center of a lane has chances of oil on your tires which will be very
> dangerous.  Consider taking a motorcycle course if there is one in your
> area, it could save your life.  Motorcycles are fun but what you don't know
> can bite you hard down the road.
>
> Counter steering is what motorcycle and even bicycles are all about.
> Gravel on the road, just roll over it.  If it in a corner, you should be
> looking farther ahead into the turn so you can drop speed before you come
> to it.
>
> Glasses, yup put the helmet on and wiggle the glasses in there, it only
> take 10 seconds.  Sound to me like your helmet is the right size, it's no
> good if it's too loose and helmets will loosen up with use.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 12:23:17 PM UTC-4, Dan Cook wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> A few things on my mind as I enter month two of riding. Any thoughts?
>>
>> - should I ride in the center of the lane whenever possible? I've heard
>> varying ideas here. Generally I'm more comfortable in the center. Oncoming
>> traffic could destroy me. Gravel or other crap on the side of the road is
>> no good either. But I have still heard people say that the center isn't the
>> place to be.
>>
>> - if I see gravel on the road and there's no avoiding it, what's the best
>> course of action? My instinct is simply to avoid braking or accelerating
>> and just try to roll on over it. In corner, obviously this is more
>> dangerous.
>>
>> - when not shifting or braking, balls of the feet on the pegs, or remain
>> ready to brake/shift?
>>
>> - how important is leaning in a curve? My very limited experience
>> (including a corner lowside) tells me that countersteering is plenty for
>> any corner.
>>
>> - I wear contact lenses. However, for about a month I've been out of them
>> and had to wear my glasses. How do you put your helmet on with glasses? I
>> have to take off the glasses, put on the helmet, then snake the glasses
>> between the helmet padding and my ears until I find the right spot. It's
>> really a pain in the ass. I wonder if my helmet is a little too tight.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Dan
>>
>> (And this is all relevant to this list, of course, because I'm wondering
>> all this while on my Nighthawk 250.)
>>
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Noob stuff

[Lar Lar]

Left part of your lane is called the "blocking position" and should be used 
if any car is behind you.  Motorcycle test here would put a mark against 
you if your were in any other position.  If it's a 4 lane highway and your 
in the left lane then you should be in the right part of that lane, again 
you would be tested for that in a proper motorcycle license test. Center of 
a lane has chances of oil on your tires which will be very dangerous.  
Consider taking a motorcycle course if there is one in your area, it could 
save your life.  Motorcycles are fun but what you don't know can bite you 
hard down the road.

Counter steering is what motorcycle and even bicycles are all about. Gravel 
on the road, just roll over it.  If it in a corner, you should be looking 
farther ahead into the turn so you can drop speed before you come to it.

Glasses, yup put the helmet on and wiggle the glasses in there, it only 
take 10 seconds.  Sound to me like your helmet is the right size, it's no 
good if it's too loose and helmets will loosen up with use.

Cheers

On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 12:23:17 PM UTC-4, Dan Cook wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> A few things on my mind as I enter month two of riding. Any thoughts?
>
> - should I ride in the center of the lane whenever possible? I've heard 
> varying ideas here. Generally I'm more comfortable in the center. Oncoming 
> traffic could destroy me. Gravel or other crap on the side of the road is 
> no good either. But I have still heard people say that the center isn't the 
> place to be.
>
> - if I see gravel on the road and there's no avoiding it, what's the best 
> course of action? My instinct is simply to avoid braking or accelerating 
> and just try to roll on over it. In corner, obviously this is more 
> dangerous.
>
> - when not shifting or braking, balls of the feet on the pegs, or remain 
> ready to brake/shift?
>
> - how important is leaning in a curve? My very limited experience 
> (including a corner lowside) tells me that countersteering is plenty for 
> any corner.
>
> - I wear contact lenses. However, for about a month I've been out of them 
> and had to wear my glasses. How do you put your helmet on with glasses? I 
> have to take off the glasses, put on the helmet, then snake the glasses 
> between the helmet padding and my ears until I find the right spot. It's 
> really a pain in the ass. I wonder if my helmet is a little too tight.
>
> Thanks!
> Dan 
>
> (And this is all relevant to this list, of course, because I'm wondering 
> all this while on my Nighthawk 250.) 
>

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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs are leaking !

[Lar Lar]

Yup happens to me on my 83 650 every year when it comes out of winter 
storage. The float needles are stuck so as suggested drain the bowels and 
tap the carbs, then without starting the bike you can put a very small tube 
(got mine at a hardware store) on the fuel valve vacuum opening, open the 
valve and suck on the tube.  This will let the carbs fill and you'll know 
if you need to do the drain and tap again.  Usually twice does the trick 
for me.

On Wednesday, September 14, 2016 at 7:04:09 PM UTC-4, belle...@gmail.com 
wrote:
>
>  Hello everyone,
>   Is has been some time since I have been on this blog 
> , I have a 1983 CB650SC that I fully restored and I have not road it in 
> about two months, well I just fired it about an hour ago and three of my 
> four carbs are leaking fuel. I am thinking something to do with my fuel 
> overflow or my bowls are stuck, she runs great ! the fuel stop leaking when 
> I turn it off. I live in San Diego and I never go that long without getting 
> on my bike but this summer it has been 90 + almost every day so I have 
> driving my truck with the AC on ! but now it starting to cool off and I am 
> dying to get back on my bike. Does anyone have any thoughts about whats 
> going on ?
>
>
> Paul 
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[Nighthawk Lovers] New Honda

[Paul]

Honda confirms adventure scooter for 2017



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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Help on repair cost

[Scott S. McKinley]

Gentlemen, 

Thanks for all your input. Scott

> On Sep 16, 2016, at 11:22 AM, James O'Gorman  wrote:
> 
> The best bet is to get a parts bike and have a shop do the engine swap if you 
> aren't able to do it. I don't know if parts like main bearings are easy to 
> get for that year/model. For my 83 when the engine spun a main bearing I 
> ended up selling it since it wasn't very easy to find everything and you 
> weren't guaranteed success.
> 
> On Sep 16, 2016, at 12:30, Nate Craft  > wrote:
> 
>> I absolutely agree with Kyle. There are so many Nighthawk 250's out there 
>> that are in great shape. Find one and enjoy it!
>> 
>> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 12:11:24 PM UTC-4, Scott McKinley wrote:
>> At $50/hr shop time and assuming no other problems, can someone give me an 
>> estimate of total cost (parts & labor)? Thanks
>> 
>> 1999 Honda Nighthawk 250cc obo
>> 
>> http://reno.craigslist.org/mpo/5779001358.html 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Help on repair cost

[James O'Gorman]

The best bet is to get a parts bike and have a shop do the engine swap if you 
aren't able to do it. I don't know if parts like main bearings are easy to get 
for that year/model. For my 83 when the engine spun a main bearing I ended up 
selling it since it wasn't very easy to find everything and you weren't 
guaranteed success.

> On Sep 16, 2016, at 12:30, Nate Craft  wrote:
> 
> I absolutely agree with Kyle. There are so many Nighthawk 250's out there 
> that are in great shape. Find one and enjoy it!
> 
>> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 12:11:24 PM UTC-4, Scott McKinley wrote:
>> At $50/hr shop time and assuming no other problems, can someone give me an 
>> estimate of total cost (parts & labor)? Thanks
>> 
>> 1999 Honda Nighthawk 250cc obo
>> 
>> http://reno.craigslist.org/mpo/5779001358.html
>> 
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[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Help on repair cost

[Nate Craft]

I absolutely agree with Kyle. There are so many Nighthawk 250's out there 
that are in great shape. Find one and enjoy it!

On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 12:11:24 PM UTC-4, Scott McKinley wrote:
>
> At $50/hr shop time and assuming no other problems, can someone give me an 
> estimate of total cost (parts & labor)? Thanks1999 Honda Nighthawk 250cc 
> obo
>
> http://reno.craigslist.org/mpo/5779001358.html
>
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RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Weight of the centerstand?

[Richard Potter]

It is probably easer for you to drop 5 pounds then to shave it off your bike 
with center stand removal
Your ex. System is the fastest way to drop weight and perk up your engine

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To: nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Weight of the centerstand?


Ugh, just imagining going through putting it on and taking it off every oil 
change made me cringe.

Totally not worth the effort for such a tiny weight change, especially one down 
low where it won't even affect handling.

Kurt

On Sep 15, 2016 6:02 PM, "James O'Gorman" 
> wrote:
I would guess it is about 3-4 lbs for the assembly. So maybe ~.5% of total bike 
weight. Knowing that it is VERY useful but only a small percent of times, you 
could pull it to save weight and bolt it up for oil changes and service.

On Sep 15, 2016, at 16:08, Kurt Nolte 
> wrote:

The center stand doesn't weigh much at all. It's pretty small, and it's made of 
bent and welded tube instead of solid stock. One spring, three bolts; there 
just isn't much there.

It's utility-to-weight ratio is AMAZING though.

If you're looking for performance improvements, I'd look elsewhere; you won't 
feel it. Synch the carbs, make sure they're clean, use good quality fuel, get a 
good quality fuel filter.

Kurt

On Sep 15, 2016 13:30, "menom7" 
> wrote:
Hi everyone,

I just wanted to ask a pretty simple question on here,after SCOURING the 
internet for HOURS,with ZERO-ANSWERS ANYWHERE!!! LOL.

Anyhoo...I have a a 2001 Honda CB-750 that I bought "used" a few years 
ago,and have enjoyed MANY trouble-free miles with it!!! When I get "bored",I 
try to find a NEW way to "enhance" it's power/performance characteristics,and 
knowing that by simply increasing it's "power-to-weight" ratio,is probably one 
of the easiest ways to do this,I wanted to ask ANYONE OUT THERE who may know 
the answer to this,...

HOW MUCH,does the centerstand ONLY,on this motorcycle weigh??? That's INCLUDING 
all the nuts/bolts/collars,etc. that connect it to the bike itself!?!?

Any help on this question,would be GREATLY appreciated!!! When I bought this,it 
had already been "lowsided" twice by the previous-owners of it,so I had to 
rejuvenate it with some used parts,etc. to get it road-worthy,but it DID NOT 
COME with the centerstand on it!!! There is only the "holes" in the frame where 
it used to attach to it,so knowing thisI KNOW that by NOT having it 
on the bike,that REDUCES the overall "weight" of it significantly!!! Which 
helps not only my gas-mileage,but my power/performance as well!!! So again,if 
anyone knows the answer to this,PLEASE post on here!!! Thanks again!!! Keep the 
rubber on the road!!! ~Peace~
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Noob stuff

[Tommy Hill]

As for lane position, I usually stay on the left side. Think of occupying your 
lane to prevent some idiot trying to squeeze in with you.  So when someone is 
passing me on the right, I will sometimes move over the the right to prevent, 
or make it less likely, that they will squeeze me.  Doesn't mean I move back 
and forth constantly, just on sometimes.  
When it just starts to rain, that is when it can be quite dangerous to be in 
the middle of the lane where the oil is.

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