Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimal Installer for Windows

2012-12-01 Thread Procházka Lukáš

On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 17:25:42 +0100, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 
yatskov...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi again,

  is it possible to add an option to NOT add path to Ctx binaries to PATH?
 This may collide with TeXLive users, and also when one switches among
more Ctx versions.

There is such an option, uncheck Set environment variables globally.

 BTW: Where the new installer is available?

I hope it will be added to new server distribution folder. (I asked
Mojca for that).

Meanwhile, use this temporary link
http://www.sendspace.com/file/051tea


OK, thanks...

One note - ContextMinimalInstall.exe should rather be named ContextStandaloneInstall.exe or 
ContextSuiteInstall.exe... as ConTeXt Suite is (now) the preferred name...

Best regards,

Lukas


Regards,
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Re: [NTG-context] request for a few volunteers to test distribution on new server

2012-12-01 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On 11/30/2012 03:22 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

Dear ConTeXters,

we will point the distribution to the new server later today (for a
moment without any significant changes). Before we do that I would
like to ask some of you to try out
./first-install.sh --server=distribution.contextgarden.net
to make sure that I didn't do any obvious mistake on the way.


Hi Mojca,

I just checked the new server. There appear to be no obvious errors, 
everything works. Just a few small observations:


1. ./first-install.sh --server=distribution.contextgarden.net: I assume 
you meant ./first-setup.sh, right?


2. Is the rsync phase somewhat slower than it used to be? I have no real 
measurements, just the impression that it took somewhat longer.


3. I assume the new server doesn't get synced to the latest beta yet? 
Because I get 2012.11.29 18:40, but 2012.11.30 has been out since 
yesterday, according to the pragma website.


Thanks for the important and wonderful work, all best

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] request for a few volunteers to test distribution on new server

2012-12-01 Thread Hans Hagen

On 12/1/2012 11:06 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

On 11/30/2012 03:22 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

Dear ConTeXters,

we will point the distribution to the new server later today (for a
moment without any significant changes). Before we do that I would
like to ask some of you to try out
./first-install.sh --server=distribution.contextgarden.net
to make sure that I didn't do any obvious mistake on the way.


Hi Mojca,

I just checked the new server. There appear to be no obvious errors,
everything works. Just a few small observations:

1. ./first-install.sh --server=distribution.contextgarden.net: I assume
you meant ./first-setup.sh, right?


Which reminds me .. weren't we going to rename the script into 
context-install' or so?



2. Is the rsync phase somewhat slower than it used to be? I have no real
measurements, just the impression that it took somewhat longer.


the previous server was probably located close to your home


3. I assume the new server doesn't get synced to the latest beta yet?
Because I get 2012.11.29 18:40, but 2012.11.30 has been out since
yesterday, according to the pragma website.


Hans

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[NTG-context] decorated

2012-12-01 Thread Hans Hagen

Hi,

In metapost (running metafun) the following does not work:

draw image (
draw fullcircle scaled 20cm withpen pencircle scaled 20mm withcolor 
red   withtransparency (1,.40) ;
draw fullcircle scaled 15cm withpen pencircle scaled 15mm withcolor 
green withtransparency (1,.30) ;
draw fullcircle scaled 10cm withpen pencircle scaled 10mm withcolor 
blue  withtransparency (1,.20) ;

)
withcolor blue
withtransparency (1,.125) % selectively applied
withpen pencircle scaled 10mm
;

Here the last transparency gets only applied to the first element of the 
picture.


For this reason, the following new variants of 'image' are provided:

decorated   : adds to the current properties, last one wins
redecoreated: replaces the current properties (color and transparency 
only, pens are kept)

undecorated : ignores the specification

This will work with the upcoming metapost/mplib release but I like to 
mention it now (before I forget).


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Re: [NTG-context] request for a few volunteers to test distribution on new server

2012-12-01 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

 Hi Mojca,

 I just checked the new server. There appear to be no obvious errors,
 everything works. Just a few small observations:

 1. ./first-install.sh --server=distribution.contextgarden.net: I assume you
 meant ./first-setup.sh, right?

Yes. (But Hans' point is also true.)

 2. Is the rsync phase somewhat slower than it used to be? I have no real
 measurements, just the impression that it took somewhat longer.

I don't know. There is a high chance that lots of things had to be
synchronized just because the date is different than it used to be on
the old server. Maybe you observed that? But I didn't do any timings
either.

(Hans' explanation is also possible, but less likely.)

I'm actually curious about the highest speed that people can get when
fetching files from the server.

 3. I assume the new server doesn't get synced to the latest beta yet?
 Because I get 2012.11.29 18:40, but 2012.11.30 has been out since yesterday,
 according to the pragma website.

Thanks for noticing. ConTeXt itself has been updated, I still need to
figure out why it hasn't been synced to the distribution.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] 'kern': TrueType table and GPOS lookup feature

2012-12-01 Thread Steve White
Hi Luigi,

I got ConTeXt installed and running, but the install was very choppy.

FYI the script you gave me had several problems, which I'll detail here.

1) Throughout you want
   freefont-ttf-20120503
rather than
   freefont-src-20120503

2) This line has a stray backslash character
   bash /first-setup.sh --modules=simplefonts

3) The command
  mtxrun --script font --reload
searches a bunch of directories for fonts, but not the directory
  texmf-project/fonts/
My work-around was just to copy the *.ttf files to
  texmf-fonts/
and then re-do the mtxrun line.

4) You might want to explain that the
  source /opt/luatex/standalone-new/tex/setuptex
has to be done once at the start of each session, or else bad things
happen.

5) Generally it would be good to dilineate what should be done as root,
and where normal user stuff starts.

Thanks!


On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Steve White stevan.wh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Luigi,

 OK, I get it. (I have wasted a couple of hours, it seems.)

 I'll do as you first recommeded.



 On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 8:37 PM, luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Steve White stevan.wh...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  If possible, I would like to get the distro version working, before
 moving
  to the latest version.
 hm, hard and useless
  Is this add-on module in some Debian package, or must one install it by
  hand?
  If the latter, what would be involved?
 no *deb package, as far I know.
 We usually  have the latest  context mkiv beta as reference, plus some
 currents.
 It's quite common that mkiv from texlive is too old (and those ones
 form the distro too). but it's not a problem because installation is
 easy.


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Minimal Installer for Windows

2012-12-01 Thread Sietse Brouwer
Lukáš wrote:
 One note - ContextMinimalInstall.exe should rather be named
 ContextStandaloneInstall.exe or ContextSuiteInstall.exe... as ConTeXt
 Suite is (now) the preferred name...

Is that so? I'd missed that.
Should I add change references to 'ConTeXt Standalone' into 'ConTeXt
Suite' to the wiki's todo-list, for someone to pick up when they have
the time?
--Sietse

On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Procházka Lukáš l...@pontex.cz wrote:
 On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 17:25:42 +0100, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
 yatskov...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi again,

   is it possible to add an option to NOT add path to Ctx binaries to
 PATH?
  This may collide with TeXLive users, and also when one switches among
 more Ctx versions.

 There is such an option, uncheck Set environment variables globally.

  BTW: Where the new installer is available?

 I hope it will be added to new server distribution folder. (I asked
 Mojca for that).

 Meanwhile, use this temporary link
 http://www.sendspace.com/file/051tea


 OK, thanks...

 One note - ContextMinimalInstall.exe should rather be named
 ContextStandaloneInstall.exe or ContextSuiteInstall.exe... as ConTeXt
 Suite is (now) the preferred name...

 Best regards,

 Lukas


 Regards,
 Vyatcheslav

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Re: [NTG-context] 'kern': TrueType table and GPOS lookup feature

2012-12-01 Thread luigi scarso
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Steve White stevan.wh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Luigi,

 I got ConTeXt installed and running, but the install was very choppy.

 FYI the script you gave me had several problems, which I'll detail here.

 1) Throughout you want
freefont-ttf-20120503
 rather than
freefont-src-20120503
yes, sorry  (btw  It would be nice to support the sfd format ...)


 2) This line has a stray backslash character
bash /first-setup.sh --modules=simplefonts
yes again sorry --  bash  first-setup.sh --modules=simplefonts
or
bash ./first-setup.sh --modules=simplefonts

 3) The command
   mtxrun --script font --reload
 searches a bunch of directories for fonts, but not the directory
   texmf-project/fonts/
 My work-around was just to copy the *.ttf files to
   texmf-fonts/
 and then re-do the mtxrun line.
Hm, no, this is strange --- are you sure ?
If I remove the files from texmf-project/fonts/
and make
mtxrun --script font --reload
I have
mtxrun --script font --list --all|grep Free
But when I copy them again in
texmf-project/fonts/
and
mtxrun --script font --reload
then
mtxrun --script font --list --all|grep Free
then I see

freemono freemono
FreeMono.ttf
freemonobold freemonobold
FreeMonoBold.ttf
freemonoboldoblique  freemonoboldoblique
FreeMonoBoldOblique.ttf
freemononormal   freemonooblique
FreeMonoOblique.ttf
freemonooblique  freemonooblique
FreeMonoOblique.ttf
freesans freesans
FreeSans.ttf
freesansbold freesansbold
FreeSansBold.ttf
freesansboldoblique  freesansboldoblique
FreeSansBoldOblique.ttf
freesansdemi freesansbold
FreeSansBold.ttf
freesansnormal   freesansoblique
FreeSansOblique.ttf
freesansoblique  freesansoblique
FreeSansOblique.ttf
freeseriffreeserif
FreeSerif.ttf
freeserifboldfreeserifbold
FreeSerifBold.ttf
freeserifbolditalic  freeserifbolditalic
FreeSerifBoldItalic.ttf
freeserifitalic  freeserifitalic
FreeSerifItalic.ttf
freeserifnormal  freeserifitalic
FreeSerifItalic.ttf

I also see

fonts   | names | scanning
/opt/luatex/standalone-mkiv/tex/texmf-project for otf files
fonts   | names | scanning
/opt/luatex/standalone-mkiv/tex/texmf-project for OTF files
fonts   | names | scanning
/opt/luatex/standalone-mkiv/tex/texmf-project for ttf files
fonts   | names | scanning
/opt/luatex/standalone-mkiv/tex/texmf-project for TTF files
fonts   | names | scanning
/opt/luatex/standalone-mkiv/tex/texmf-project for ttc files
fonts   | names | scanning
/opt/luatex/standalone-mkiv/tex/texmf-project for TTC files
fonts   | names | scanning
/opt/luatex/standalone-mkiv/tex/texmf-project for dfont files
fonts   | names | scanning
/opt/luatex/standalone-mkiv/tex/texmf-project for DFONT files
fonts   | names | scanning
/opt/luatex/standalone-mkiv/tex/texmf-project for afm files
fonts   | names | scanning
/opt/luatex/standalone-mkiv/tex/texmf-project for AFM files

The problem with texmf-fonts/
is that is keep in sync with the original source, and hence the files
can be deleted.


 4) You might want to explain that the
   source /opt/luatex/standalone-new/tex/setuptex
 has to be done once at the start of each session, or else bad things
 happen.
Hm , nothing bad:  you use the default pdftex/xetex/luatex --- nothing
of catastrophic, this  doesn't touch your mkiv in anyway.
Given that mkiv require some experience, the default is to leave the
distro to manage the TeX installation
and the user to setup the appropriate environment.


 5) Generally it would be good to dilineate what should be done as root,
 and where normal user stuff starts.
Hm, to be root is not required -- have you found some problem ?


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Re: [NTG-context] 'kern': TrueType table and GPOS lookup feature

2012-12-01 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Sat, 1 Dec 2012, luigi scarso wrote:


5) Generally it would be good to dilineate what should be done as root,
and where normal user stuff starts.

Hm, to be root is not required -- have you found some problem ?


Usually, normal users do not have write permissions in /opt directory.

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Re: [NTG-context] 'kern': TrueType table and GPOS lookup feature

2012-12-01 Thread luigi scarso
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote:
 On Sat, 1 Dec 2012, luigi scarso wrote:

 5) Generally it would be good to dilineate what should be done as root,
 and where normal user stuff starts.

 Hm, to be root is not required -- have you found some problem ?


 Usually, normal users do not have write permissions in /opt directory.
If we follow strict rules,  normal user should not  install the
latest context -- only the admin.


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Re: [NTG-context] 'kern': TrueType table and GPOS lookup feature

2012-12-01 Thread Aditya Mahajan


On Sat, 1 Dec 2012, luigi scarso wrote:


On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote:

On Sat, 1 Dec 2012, luigi scarso wrote:


5) Generally it would be good to dilineate what should be done as root,
and where normal user stuff starts.


Hm, to be root is not required -- have you found some problem ?



Usually, normal users do not have write permissions in /opt directory.

If we follow strict rules,  normal user should not  install the
latest context -- only the admin.


And hence Steve's remark that the installation instruction should 
differentiate between what needs to be dun as root and what as normal user 
(the user run context --make needs to have write permission in 
TEXMFCACHE).


Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] 'kern': TrueType table and GPOS lookup feature

2012-12-01 Thread luigi scarso
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote:

 On Sat, 1 Dec 2012, luigi scarso wrote:

 On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote:

 On Sat, 1 Dec 2012, luigi scarso wrote:

 5) Generally it would be good to dilineate what should be done as root,
 and where normal user stuff starts.


 Hm, to be root is not required -- have you found some problem ?



 Usually, normal users do not have write permissions in /opt directory.

 If we follow strict rules,  normal user should not  install the
 latest context -- only the admin.


 And hence Steve's remark that the installation instruction should
 differentiate between what needs to be dun as root and what as normal user
 (the user run context --make needs to have write permission in TEXMFCACHE).
A normal user cannot even download first-setup.sh and install the files.

But if he can
then he can install context under his home and mkiv works ok -- no
need to be root.
This can be  useful in a server that run context as service -- create
a  user that manage the context, a common pattern
(apache, mysql, postgres, etc).

About /opt ,
it's a location for add-on,  and it's usually unused by standard
distro (so one  leaves the machine clean.): see
http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#OPTADDONAPPLICATIONSOFTWAREPACKAGES
In this situation the choice between homedir and /opt is of course a
personal taste, and I prefer to install
general applications (or applications that can be of general utility)
under /opt .



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[NTG-context] Which version to use for MathML?

2012-12-01 Thread Chen Shen
Hi all,

I tried a few mathml examples with 2012.05.30 and the latest beta (test
script attached).

The 20120530 version fails with eqn1, which uses presentation mathml, but
works with eqn using content mathml.
The latest beta generates doesn't work with either equations.

I see a lot of mathml related changes recently, with the file x-mathml.mkiv
come and go away.
Which version should I go with to get presentation mathml work?

thanks and regards,
shenchen
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