Re: [NTG-context] Defined and not defined and better be done global

2013-04-27 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2013/4/27 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:
 On 4/26/2013 10:43 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:

 When running ConTeXt I see a lot of this kind of messages:
 fontsbodyfont 15pt is defined (can better be done global)
 fontsbodyfont 1.25em is defined (can better be done global)
 fontsbodyfont 1.25em is not defined
 fontsbodyfont 1.25em is defined (can better be done global)
 fontsbodyfont 15pt is defined (can better be done global)
 fontsbodyfont 1.25em is defined (can better be done global)
 fontsbodyfont 1.25em is not defined
 fontsbodyfont 1.25em is defined (can better be done global)
 fontsbodyfont 15pt is defined (can better be done global)
 fontsbodyfont 1.25em is defined (can better be done global)
 fontsbodyfont 1.25em is not defined

 What am I doing wrong?


 switching a bodyfont with an undefined bodyfontenvironment inside a group,
 which is very inefficient

 (and a 1.5em bodyfont switch can probably better be replaced by a direct
 font definition)

I will look into the bodyenvironment stuff. Is not much to go on. :-(

Had to delve into what I am doing. Was a ‘little while ago’ I wrote it.

I thought that 1.5em was used for relative definitions. I have a inc
file that I use. In this I have:
\def\Title{\dodoubleempty\doTitle}
\def\doTitle[#1][#2]{
  \ifsecondargument
\testpage[#2]
  \else
\testpage[15]
  \fi
  \startalignment[center]
  {
\myblank[2*big]
\switchtobodyfont[1.5em]
\bf\em#1
  }
  \myblank
  \stopalignment
}

In this case I have in my mane document:
\input /home/cecil/ConTeXt-inc/standard-init.inc

\setupbodyfont[palatino,10pt]

What would be a better way to do this? I prefer my include file
deciding the increase of the font.

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[NTG-context] How to center with picture taken into consideration

2013-04-27 Thread Cecil Westerhof
I keep bugging the list. ;-)

I center some text on a place where I also place a picture on the
right site. Is it possible to center on the part that is not taken up
by the picture?

The picture is placed with:
  \definelayer[picture][
preset=righttop,
width=\textwidth,
  ]

  \setlayer[picture]{\externalfigure[graphics/pasfoto]}

  \setupbackgrounds[text][text][background=picture]
  \setupbackgrounds[state=repeat]

To make things a little more complicated, the placing of the picture
is conditional. So it is not always done.

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[NTG-context] Heading in setuplayout from a variable

2013-04-26 Thread Cecil Westerhof
It is a long time since I used ConTeXt. I am starting again.

I have the following code:
\setvariables[meta][type=cecil]

\if\getvariable{meta}{type}=cecil
  \setvariables[meta][
name={Cecil Westerhof},
  ]
  \setvariables[layout][
header=0mm,
  ]
\fi

But that does not work.

For the conditional I also tried:
\ifx\getvariable{meta}{type}\cecil

But that does not work either.

What is the correct way to define the comparison?

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[NTG-context] Fwd: Heading in setuplayout from a variable

2013-04-26 Thread Cecil Westerhof
Send to Hans instead of to the list. :-(


-- Forwarded message --
From: Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com
Date: 2013/4/26
Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Heading in setuplayout from a variable
To: Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl


2013/4/26 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:
 On 4/26/2013 1:27 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:

 It is a long time since I used ConTeXt. I am starting again.

 I have the following code:
 \setvariables[meta][type=cecil]

 \if\getvariable{meta}{type}=cecil
\setvariables[meta][
  name={Cecil Westerhof},
]
\setvariables[layout][
  header=0mm,
]
 \fi

 But that does not work.

 For the conditional I also tried:
 \ifx\getvariable{meta}{type}\cecil

 But that does not work either.

 What is the correct way to define the comparison?


 \doifelse {\getvariable{meta}{type}} {cecil} {
 ...
 } {
 ...
 }

Thanks. That works. In my case I use a \doif.

Is there also something like a switch statement? If not I could use a
nested \doifelse.

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Re: [NTG-context] Heading in setuplayout from a variable

2013-04-26 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2013/4/26 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com:
 I have the following code:
 \setvariables[meta][type=cecil]

This variable is hard coded. Is it possible to set it with a value I
send as a command line parameter?

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Re: [NTG-context] Heading in setuplayout from a variable

2013-04-26 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2013/4/26 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:
 On 4/26/2013 2:35 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:

 2013/4/26 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com:

 I have the following code:
 \setvariables[meta][type=cecil]


 This variable is hard coded. Is it possible to set it with a value I
 send as a command line parameter?


 \getdocumentargument{myargument}

My first try did not work, but now it does. Properly made a silly
mistake somewhere.


 of use modes (often more natural)

In this case it is not something to use, but it is certainly something
to look into.

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[NTG-context] Why does startlines not work in a function

2013-04-26 Thread Cecil Westerhof
I have the following code:
\startlines
  \startalignment[center]
\setupindenting[no]
\doifelse {\getvariable{meta}{personalInfo}} {long} {
  longline 1
  longline 2
  longline 3
  longline 4
  longline 5
  longline 6
  longline 7
  longline 8
} {
  shortline 1
  shortline 2
  shortline 3
  shortline 4
}
  \stopalignment
\stoplines

I wanted to put this in a function. So I wrote:
\def\Foo{
  \startlines
\startalignment[center]
  \setupindenting[no]
  \doifelse {\getvariable{meta}{personalInfo}} {long} {
longline 1
longline 2
longline 3
longline 4
longline 5
longline 6
longline 7
longline 8
  } {
shortline 1
shortline 2
shortline 3
shortline 4
  }
\stopalignment
  \stoplines
}

But then the text becomes one line instead of several lines.


So I had to rewrite it to:
\def\FooTwo{
  \startalignment[center]
\setupindenting[no]
\doifelse {\getvariable{meta}{personalInfo}} {long} {
  longline 1

  longline 2

  longline 3

  longline 4

  longline 5

  longline 6

  longline 7

  longline 8
} {
  shortline 1

  shortline 2

  shortline 3

  shortline 4
}
  \stopalignment
}


I called it first Foo2, but that worked havoc on Foo.

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[NTG-context] Is it possible to set the output file name in the script

2013-04-26 Thread Cecil Westerhof
I am using a command line parameter to change the generated output. Is
it also possible to set the output file name depending on the
parameter?

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Re: [NTG-context] Is it possible to set the output file name in the script

2013-04-26 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2013/4/26 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:
 On 4/26/2013 5:34 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:

 I am using a command line parameter to change the generated output. Is
 it also possible to set the output file name depending on the
 parameter?


 --result=somename

That is on the command line. Then you need to give two parameters. Not
a very big problem, but I would prefer one parameter. I like DRY. Less
that can go wrong.
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Re: [NTG-context] Is it possible to set the output file name in the script

2013-04-26 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2013/4/26 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:
 On 4/26/2013 6:50 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:

 2013/4/26 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:

 On 4/26/2013 5:34 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:


 I am using a command line parameter to change the generated output. Is
 it also possible to set the output file name depending on the
 parameter?



 --result=somename


 That is on the command line. Then you need to give two parameters. Not
 a very big problem, but I would prefer one parameter. I like DRY. Less
 that can go wrong.


 not possible but you can access the outputfilename at the tex and lua end

What do mean with that?

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[NTG-context] Fwd: Is it possible to set the output file name in the script

2013-04-26 Thread Cecil Westerhof
Again to Hans instead of to the list. I ‘hate’ gmail.


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From: Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com
Date: 2013/4/26
Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Is it possible to set the output file name
in the script
To: Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl


2013/4/26 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:
 On 4/26/2013 7:01 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:

 2013/4/26 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:

 On 4/26/2013 6:50 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:


 2013/4/26 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:


 On 4/26/2013 5:34 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:



 I am using a command line parameter to change the generated output. Is
 it also possible to set the output file name depending on the
 parameter?




 --result=somename



 That is on the command line. Then you need to give two parameters. Not
 a very big problem, but I would prefer one parameter. I like DRY. Less
 that can go wrong.



 not possible but you can access the outputfilename at the tex and lua end


 What do mean with that?


 just grep for outputfile in lua and mkiv files

I have now (I need to use jobfilename, because I get an error when I
use outputfilename):
\def\outputfilename{\jobfilename -\getvariable{meta}{type}}
\def\outputfilenametwo{\jobfilename -\getvariable{meta}{type}}

When displaying outputfilenametwo I see that it is filled with the
correct value, but the output is still written to the same file.

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Re: [NTG-context] Is it possible to set the output file name in the script

2013-04-26 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2013/4/26 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com:
 2013/4/26 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:
 On 4/26/2013 7:01 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:

 2013/4/26 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:

 On 4/26/2013 6:50 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:


 2013/4/26 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:


 On 4/26/2013 5:34 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:



 I am using a command line parameter to change the generated output. Is
 it also possible to set the output file name depending on the
 parameter?




 --result=somename



 That is on the command line. Then you need to give two parameters. Not
 a very big problem, but I would prefer one parameter. I like DRY. Less
 that can go wrong.



 not possible but you can access the outputfilename at the tex and lua end


 What do mean with that?


 just grep for outputfile in lua and mkiv files

 I have now (I need to use jobfilename, because I get an error when I
 use outputfilename):
 \def\outputfilename{\jobfilename -\getvariable{meta}{type}}
 \def\outputfilenametwo{\jobfilename -\getvariable{meta}{type}}

 When displaying outputfilenametwo I see that it is filled with the
 correct value, but the output is still written to the same file.

The following script does what I want:
#!/usr/bin/env bash

set -o errexit
set -o nounset

declare -r DEFAULT=cecil
declare -r DIR=${HOME}/Documenten/CV
declare -r FILE=CV-Cecil-Westerhof
declare -r SCRIPTNAME=$(basename ${0})

declare RESULT
declare TYPE

if [[ ${#} -ge 1 ]] ; then
  TYPE=${1}; shift
else
  TYPE=${DEFAULT}
fi
readonly TYPE

if [[ ${#} -ne 0 ]] ; then
echo USAGE: ${SCRIPTNAME} [TYPE]
exit 1
fi

cd ${DIR}
RESULT=${FILE}
if [[ ${TYPE} != ${DEFAULT} ]] ; then
RESULT+=-${TYPE}
fi
readonly RESULT

context --CVType=${TYPE} --result=${RESULT} CV-Cecil-Westerhof

There is only one problem. If I first generate the default one and
after that a specific one, the default one does not exist anymore. I
suppose that when --result is used, first the pdf with the same name
as the tex file is generated and then moved. A little nuisance, but I
can live with it.

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Re: [NTG-context] Is it possible to set the output file name in the script

2013-04-26 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2013/4/26 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com:
 The following script does what I want:
 #!/usr/bin/env bash

 set -o errexit
 set -o nounset

 declare -r DEFAULT=cecil
 declare -r DIR=${HOME}/Documenten/CV
 declare -r FILE=CV-Cecil-Westerhof
 declare -r SCRIPTNAME=$(basename ${0})

 declare RESULT
 declare TYPE

 if [[ ${#} -ge 1 ]] ; then
   TYPE=${1}; shift
 else
   TYPE=${DEFAULT}
 fi
 readonly TYPE

 if [[ ${#} -ne 0 ]] ; then
 echo USAGE: ${SCRIPTNAME} [TYPE]
 exit 1
 fi

 cd ${DIR}
 RESULT=${FILE}
 if [[ ${TYPE} != ${DEFAULT} ]] ; then
 RESULT+=-${TYPE}
 fi
 readonly RESULT

 context --CVType=${TYPE} --result=${RESULT} CV-Cecil-Westerhof

 There is only one problem. If I first generate the default one and
 after that a specific one, the default one does not exist anymore. I
 suppose that when --result is used, first the pdf with the same name
 as the tex file is generated and then moved. A little nuisance, but I
 can live with it.

That can be solved by renaming the tex-file to CV.tex. The script is now:
#!/usr/bin/env bash

set -o errexit
set -o nounset

declare -r DEFAULT=cecil
declare -r DIR=${HOME}/Documenten/CV
declare -r FILE=CV
declare -r SCRIPTNAME=$(basename ${0})

declare RESULT=CV-Cecil-Westerhof
declare TYPE

if [[ ${#} -ge 1 ]] ; then
  TYPE=${1}; shift
else
  TYPE=${DEFAULT}
fi
readonly TYPE

if [[ ${#} -ne 0 ]] ; then
echo USAGE: ${SCRIPTNAME} [TYPE]
exit 1
fi

cd ${DIR}
if [[ ${TYPE} != ${DEFAULT} ]] ; then
RESULT+=-${TYPE}
fi
readonly RESULT

context --CVType=${TYPE} --result=${RESULT} ${FILE}

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Re: [NTG-context] Why does startlines not work in a function

2013-04-26 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2013/4/26 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:
 On 4/26/2013 5:19 PM, Cecil Westerhof wrote:

 I have the following code:

 ...

 But then the text becomes one line instead of several lines.


 because catcode changes are involved

 \startbuffer [meta:personalInfo:long]
 \startlines

 longline 1
 longline 2
 longline 3
 longline 4
 longline 5
 longline 6
 longline 7
 longline 8
 \stoplines
 \stopbuffer

 \startbuffer [meta:personalInfo:]
 \startlines

 shortline 1
 shortline 2
 shortline 3
 shortline 4
 \stoplines
 \stopbuffer

 \starttext

 \getbuffer[meta:personalInfo:\getvariable{meta}{personalInfo}]

 \stoptext

Works. Thanks.

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Re: [NTG-context] Is it possible to set the output file name in the script

2013-04-26 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2013/4/26 Peter Münster pmli...@free.fr:
 On Fri, Apr 26 2013, Cecil Westerhof wrote:

 The following script does what I want:

 Or shorter:

 --8---cut here---start-8---
 #!/usr/bin/env bash
 context --result=cv-${1:-cecil} CV-Cecil-Westerhof
 --8---cut here---end---8---

Nope, when the parameter is cecil, I want to add nothing. Also I am a
little paranoid, so I want the script to not execute when there are to
many parameters.


 There is only one problem. If I first generate the default one and
 after that a specific one, the default one does not exist anymore.

 A known bug: http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2008/035125.html

 You could add it to the tracker: http://tracker.luatex.org/

I already went around it. But it would not hurt to report it.

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[NTG-context] Defined and not defined and better be done global

2013-04-26 Thread Cecil Westerhof
When running ConTeXt I see a lot of this kind of messages:
fontsbodyfont 15pt is defined (can better be done global)
fontsbodyfont 1.25em is defined (can better be done global)
fontsbodyfont 1.25em is not defined
fontsbodyfont 1.25em is defined (can better be done global)
fontsbodyfont 15pt is defined (can better be done global)
fontsbodyfont 1.25em is defined (can better be done global)
fontsbodyfont 1.25em is not defined
fontsbodyfont 1.25em is defined (can better be done global)
fontsbodyfont 15pt is defined (can better be done global)
fontsbodyfont 1.25em is defined (can better be done global)
fontsbodyfont 1.25em is not defined

What am I doing wrong?

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Re: [NTG-context] one small remark and one broad question

2012-12-15 Thread Cecil Westerhof
Op zaterdag 15 dec 2012 17:07 CET schreef Thomas A. Schmitz:

 And now for the overly broad question: I'm embarking on what could
 become a long project. One part of it is typesetting a book (with many
 graphics). On the one hand, it would be wonderful to use the project
 structure and break it down into several components to make things
 manageable. On the other hand, it would be great to code in xml (because
 I might want to publish this as a website too). can these things be
 combined? Does the xml engine handle xinclude (or could this be added to
 it)? Or would another approach be better? Thanks for your insights!

I understood that you can generate HTML with ConTeXt also. So there
would not be a need to use xml then. (I do not have experience with this.)

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[NTG-context] Footnote numbering pro page

2011-09-30 Thread Cecil Westerhof
A footnote is placed (at least the way I use it) on the same page as it is
referred. But the numbering of the footnotes is continues. How can I make
the footnote numbering reset to one at every page?

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Re: [NTG-context] Errors installing ConTeXt on Windows

2011-08-20 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/20 Alasdair McAndrew amc...@gmail.com

 Well, I've now got linux reinstalled, so I no longer need Windows.  (Huge
 sigh of relief.)  Sorry about the anguished initial email!


I feel your pain. :-D

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Re: [NTG-context] Smileys

2011-08-18 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/17 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com

 The filename of the font is “windings.ttf”.


I now have:
\def\numcharacter#1{\char#1{}}
\let\dochar\numcharacter

\definefont[wingding][windings.ttf at 12pt]

\starttext

windings: {\wingding \dochar{74}\dochar{75}\dochar{76}}

\stoptext

But it just gives:
windings: JKL

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Re: [NTG-context] Smileys

2011-08-18 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/18 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com

 It’s “wingdings” with a “g” in the name!
 \definefontsynonym[Wingdings][file:wingdings]

 \def\WingdingsSymbol{\getglyphdirect{Wingdings}}

 \definesymbol[smiley:1][\WingdingsSymbol{74}]
 \definesymbol[smiley:2][\WingdingsSymbol{75}]
 \definesymbol[smiley:3][\WingdingsSymbol{76}]

 \starttext
 \symbol[smiley:1] \symbol[smiley:2] \symbol[smiley:3]
 \stoptext


It is still the same. I know used context instead of my script. (Normally I
compile with a script, because I do not like all the output. When there is
an error I show the last part of the output.) I saw:
fontsdefining  font with asked name 'wingdings' is not
found using lookup 'file'
fontsdefining  unknown font wingdings, loading aborted
fontsdefining  unable to define wingdings as
\**currentsymbolfont**

So properly I need to install the font.

Would it not be better to have at least the option that not finding a font
is an error?

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Re: [NTG-context] Errors installing ConTeXt on Windows

2011-08-18 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/18 Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky yatskov...@gmail.com

 Looks like the are problems with my installer and I'm not aware of.

 Alasdair McAndrew, can we collaborate on this issue (since I don't have
 Win7 64 bit to do tests?)


I had the same problem.  I was told it was broken for a few years.

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Re: [NTG-context] Errors installing ConTeXt on Windows

2011-08-18 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/18 Alasdair McAndrew amc...@gmail.com

 My laptop running ubuntu died this evening, so as an interim measure I'm
 trying to install ConTeXt on a windows machine, using the GUI ConTeXt
 minimals installer.  However, after only a few seconds of running, I get
 two popup errors: Update Failed: error code: 1,  Make Failed: error code:
 1, after which the installation exits.  Does anybody know what's going on
 here, and how I can get it working?


I just made this work for a client. The parts of the manual that are
interesting I have attached. This installation takes the assumption you are
going to work with MKIV. If you also want to work with MKII you have to
install Ruby.

If you do not want to work with TeXworks, you can skip the second part. :-D

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installConTeXtWithTeXworks.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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Re: [NTG-context] Smileys

2011-08-17 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/16 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com

 Instead of using something like ;-}, what looks nice, but is not the
 highpoint of typography, I would like to use something like \smiley, \grin,
 \cool, …


 You need a font with the symbol, there are also fonts available where you
 can use layers to use different colors for parts of the symbol.

 - http://www.ffdingbatsfont.com/
 - http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2011/057859.html


I am still quite inexperienced with ConTeXt. I found the following document:
http://statweb.calpoly.edu/jdoi/web/reference/symbols-a4.pdf

It is for LaTeX, but I can not find ConTeXt specific stuff. In table 188
there is a smiley. This brought me to to following:
\starttext

\usesymbols[wasy]

\symbol[was][smiley]

\symbol[was][qed]

\showsymbolset[general]
% \showsymbolset[music]
% \showsymbolset[astronomy]
% \showsymbolset[astrology]
% \showsymbolset[geometry]
% \showsymbolset[physics]
% \showsymbolset[apl]

\stoptext


The smiley does not display, instead I get the text smiley. Also it is not
shown with the \showsymbolset. Why?

Is there any documentation about how to work –for example– with the dingbats
font. At the moment I am just feeling like shooting in the dark. :-{
When knowing how to do it, I could try to make a smiley module. ;-}

By the way: do I understand correctly that with \showsymbolset the second
column shows how the character is displayed and the third columns shows the
used space for the character?

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[NTG-context] Two rotates on the same line

2011-08-17 Thread Cecil Westerhof
I am still expanding my knowledge of ConTeXt. At the moment I am playing
with \rotate. When using:
\rotate[rotation=42]{Tekst kan ook worden geroteerd.}
\rotate[rotation=-42]{In elke richting die je maar wilt.}

This is displayed as:
/
\

I would like it displayed as:
/\

How can I do that?

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Re: [NTG-context] Smileys

2011-08-17 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/17 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com

  Is it possible to work with smileys in ConTeXt?
  Instead of using something like ;-}, what looks nice, but is not the
  highpoint of typography, I would like to use something like \smiley,
 \grin,
  \cool, …

 My suggestion would be to find a set of PNG (or other) images that you
 like, put them all into some subfolder and then define a list in the
 spirit of:
\def\smiley{\externalfigure[img/smilies/smiley.png][height=\lineheight]}

 Of course you can also use fonts (even marvosym), but they will only
 show ugly black-and-white strokes which is probably not what you want.


At least originally was it what I wanted. Because when you use fonts they
scale to the fontsize you are using. So I would think that looks the best.
But you make a good point.


(If you want auto-replacement to work, you need a few more hacks, but
 I would personally not like smilies to be inserted automatically.)


Neither do I. ;-}

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Re: [NTG-context] Two rotates on the same line

2011-08-17 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/17 Peter Rolf indi...@gmx.net

 Am 17.08.2011 12:51, schrieb Peter Rolf:
  Am 17.08.2011 12:40, schrieb Cecil Westerhof:
  I am still expanding my knowledge of ConTeXt. At the moment I am playing
  with \rotate. When using:
  \rotate[rotation=42]{Tekst kan ook worden geroteerd.}
  \rotate[rotation=-42]{In elke richting die je maar wilt.}
 
  This is displayed as:
  /
  \
 
  I would like it displayed as:
  /\
 
  How can I do that?
 
 
  0° lies on the right (W), rotation is counter clockwise. The rest is up

   East :-D

  to you :-)


You lost me. :-{

When playing with it, I found that it seems like every rotation wants its
own vertical space.

But this is only the case when the rotation is the first thing to be printed
on the line. So I changed it to:
\
\rotate[rotation=42]{Tekst kan ook worden geroteerd.}
\rotate[rotation=-42]{In elke richting die je maar wilt.}

and because it is nicer to have it centered:
\midaligned{
  \
  \rotate[rotation=42]{Tekst kan ook worden geroteerd.}
  \rotate[rotation=-42]{In elke richting die je maar wilt.}
}


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[NTG-context] Centering 'clipping' text logo

2011-08-17 Thread Cecil Westerhof
I like the last example on:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Graphical_text_manipulation

This creates a left aligned 'logo'. I would like it to be centered. I tried
several things, but until now to no avail. How can I get it centered?

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Re: [NTG-context] Centering 'clipping' text logo

2011-08-17 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/17 Peter Rolf indi...@gmx.net

 Am 17.08.2011 13:50, schrieb Cecil Westerhof:
  I like the last example on:
  http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Graphical_text_manipulation
 
  This creates a left aligned 'logo'. I would like it to be centered. I
  tried several things, but until now to no avail. How can I get it
 centered?
 
 my first guess would be

 \midaligned{\vbox{%
 \clip
 \clip
 \clip
 }}


I tried a lot, but just this one not. I got one long line with the three
parts beside each-other, a little room between the parts, no effect, …



 untested.. ;-)


It does exactly what I want. :-D

Would be a nice one to make a macro from. Have to delve first more deeply
into ConTeXt. I do not know enough about parameter handling. (Named,
variable, …)

I went one step further. Because I found the upper and lower parts to small,
I used:
\midaligned{\vbox{%
\clip[ny=5,y=1]{\color[blue]\MyLogo}
\clip[ny=5,y=2]{\color[blue]\MyLogo}
\clip[ny=5,y=3]{\color[yellow]\MyLogo}
\clip[ny=5,y=4]{\color[red]\MyLogo}
\clip[ny=5,y=5]{\color[red]\MyLogo}
}}

But now the second blue and the second red part become black. Why?

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Re: [NTG-context] Smileys

2011-08-17 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/17 Jaroslav Hajtmar hajt...@gyza.cz

 Hello Cecil ...
 Here is my simple tip. All you need is a font set, which are needed
 emoticons ...


 \def\numcharacter#1{\char#1{}}
 \let\dochar\numcharacter

 \definefont[wingding][**wingding.ttf at 12pt]

 \starttext

 {\wingding \dochar{74}\dochar{75}\dochar{**76}}

 \stoptext


That just gives JKL.

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Re: [NTG-context] Why is the \crlf needed to display the table correctly

2011-08-16 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/16 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com

  I think it is an obscure bug. If I take your code but change the
 following:
   \setupTABLE[c][1][align=right,width=.35\textwidth]
   \setupTABLE[c][2][width=.65\textwidth]
 
  I have the same problem.

 Change “align=right” to “align={right,broad}”.


At the moment I am not at the (Windows) computer where I write this
document. I'll try it tonight.

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[NTG-context] Problem with installing ConTeXt

2011-08-16 Thread Cecil Westerhof
I am still struggling to get ConTeXt running under Windows. At home where
(when I work with Windows) I work with Vista it worked. At the company they
use XP. I did the same as I did at home, but now I get error messages about
configuration files that can not be found in the non existing directory
c:\contextminimal. I installed ConTeXt in c:\context.

Is it possible that something changed since yesterday?

The way I try to couple ConTeXt and TeXworks is described in the following
document:
http://www.decebal.nl/ConTeXtManual.pdf

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with installing ConTeXt

2011-08-16 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/16 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com

 I am still struggling to get ConTeXt running under Windows. At home where
 (when I work with Windows) I work with Vista it worked. At the company they
 use XP. I did the same as I did at home, but now I get error messages about
 configuration files that can not be found in the non existing directory
 c:\contextminimal. I installed ConTeXt in c:\context.


I found the problem. I had previously tried to install with Vyatcheslav
Yatskovsky's installer, which did not work. After cleaning up, it seems to
work.

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[NTG-context] Smileys

2011-08-16 Thread Cecil Westerhof
Is it possible to work with smileys in ConTeXt?

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Re: [NTG-context] Smileys

2011-08-16 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/16 Henning Hraban Ramm hra...@fiee.net

 Is it possible to work with smileys in ConTeXt?



 Why not?
 But perhaps you could specifiy what you'd like to achieve.


Instead of using something like ;-}, what looks nice, but is not the
highpoint of typography, I would like to use something like \smiley, \grin,
\cool, …

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Re: [NTG-context] Installing ConTeXt in Windows (XP)

2011-08-15 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/12 Willi Egger w.eg...@boede.nl

 just out of curiosity I installed TeXWorks under Windows (XP).

 In order to let TeXWorks use the minimals one needs to set things up.

 1. create a batch file e.g. TW-context.bat with the following content:

 call c:\context\tex\setuptex.bat c:\context\tex
 context %~dpn1.tex

 I saved the file in the Owners folder.
 Of course the path in the call statement must reflect the situation on your
 machine.

 2 Start TeXWorks
 3 Open under 'Edit' 'Preferences' and there the tab 'Typeseting'
 4 Add in the top window with plus the path to the batch-file e.g.
 C:/Documents and Settings/Owner
 5 Add with + in the processing tools window a new entry, fill the
 configuration screen in: Name: e.g. ContextMKIV
 6 Fill the Programme: (easiest with the Browse button) C:/Documents and
 Settings/Owner/TW-context.bat
 7 Add with + an new argument and fill in $basename
 8 Click the checkbox to have TW showing the generated pdf
 9 Click OK
 10 Change the default tool to be used to ContextMKIV
 11 Click OK

 and you are done!


For one reason or another it does not work. I think because the batch setups
an environment and does not compile the source. I do not get an error
message, but the pdf is not generated.

When I open a DOS prompt, I need to execute the batch file to get context
recognized as a command. When I execute context after executing the batch
file, the pdf is generated.

But when I change the batch file for:
C:/context/tex/texmf-mswin/bin/context.exe

The compilation is started, but does not work correctly, because the
environment is not set correctly. I tried executing the batch file to set
the environment, but that is not recognised in TeXworks.

I first tried to change the batch file and let it start TeXworks. That
worked, but then I had a better idea. In step four I set the path to:
C:/context/tex/texmf-mswin/bin

And now it works completely correct I think.

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[NTG-context] Different output formats

2011-08-15 Thread Cecil Westerhof
I am writing a document for our client that has accepted to work with
ConTeXt. One of the things I want to mention is the different output
formats. I know PDF and xhtml and that in the near future epub will be
available. Are there others? (I know dvi, but I do not think it is worth
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Re: [NTG-context] Different output formats

2011-08-15 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/15 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com

  I am writing a document for our client that has accepted to work with
 ConTeXt. One of the things I want to mention is the different output
 formats. I know PDF and xhtml and that in the near future epub will be
 available. Are there others? (I know dvi, but I do not think it is worth
 mentioning.)

 MkII with pdfTeX as engine supports PDF, PS and DVI as output formats but
 with XeTeX you have only PDF as output.

 With MkIV you can produce PDF and also XML (and afterwards epub) besides
 the PDF.

 As your client doesn’t know anything about TeX and ConTeXt i would ignore
 MkII and mention only the output formats of MkIV.


I was planning on only mentioning MKIV. These are the only output formats?
At the moment only PDF and XML then.

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[NTG-context] Formatting lines in TeXworks and using spellchecking

2011-08-15 Thread Cecil Westerhof
Until now I worked with Emacs to edit ConTeXt documents. Because I have to
make a manual for the client, I now work under Windows with TeXworks. In
Emacs I could easily reformat my (source) lines, to be not wider as 72
characters. Is something like that possible with TeXworks.

Also: there is a spell-checking option, bet there are no languages to choose
from. How can I install languages?

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Re: [NTG-context] Formatting lines in TeXworks and using spellchecking

2011-08-15 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/15 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com


  Until now I worked with Emacs to edit ConTeXt documents. Because I have
 to make a manual for the client, I now work under Windows with TeXworks. In
 Emacs I could easily reformat my (source) lines, to be not wider as 72
 characters. Is something like that possible with TeXworks.

 You can change it in the menu bar: Format - Hard Wrap…


Works, thanks.


 Also: there is a spell-checking option, bet there are no languages to
 choose from. How can I install languages?

 Take a look at the TeXworks manual:
 http://www.tug.org/texworks/#Documentation


I'll do that.

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[NTG-context] Indenting in footnotes

2011-08-15 Thread Cecil Westerhof
I use:
 \setupindenting[yes, small, next]

This works on the main text, but not on the footnotes. In \setupfootnotes I
do not find an option to do the same. Am I overlooking something, or is it
really not possible?

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Re: [NTG-context] Indenting in footnotes

2011-08-15 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/15 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com


 Am 15.08.2011 um 12:56 schrieb Cecil Westerhof:

  I use:
   \setupindenting[yes, small, next]
 
  This works on the main text, but not on the footnotes. In \setupfootnotes
 I do not find an option to do the same. Am I overlooking something, or is it
 really not possible?

 \setupnotedefintion[footnote][indenting=…]


Does not exist. What comes closest is the following:
\setupfootnotedefinition[footnote][indenting=yes,small,next]


But that does not have the required effect. It even generates a blanco page.
I attached the tex and pdf files.

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dummy.tex
Description: TeX document


dummy.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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Re: [NTG-context] Indenting in footnotes

2011-08-15 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/15 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com

  BTW: is it possible to define the footnotes somewhere else?

 You mean like \useurl and \url?


Yes, it now 'distracts' from the main info.

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Re: [NTG-context] Indenting in footnotes

2011-08-15 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/15 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com

   BTW: is it possible to define the footnotes somewhere else?

 You mean like \useurl and \url?


 Yes, it now 'distracts' from the main info.


 No, what’s possible is this:

 \startbuffer[footnote:a]
 Note A
 \stopbuffer

 \startsetups[footnote:b]
 Note B
 \stopsetups

 %\setvariables[footnote][c={Note C}]
 \setvariable{footnote}{c}{Note C}

 \starttext

 A\footnote{\getbuffer[footnote:a]}

 B\footnote{\texsetup{footnote:b}}

 C\footnote{\getvariable{footnote}{c}}

 \stoptext


That is already a lot better as it was first. ;-}


You can write a feature request because it’s easy to add this functionality
 but it depends on Hans.


I'll do that.

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[NTG-context] List of special characters

2011-08-15 Thread Cecil Westerhof
While writing the documentation about using ConTeXt I need some 'special'
characters. A few I have found, for example \%, \backslash, \texttilde,
\percent. But until now I did not find how to represent [ and ]. How would I
use those characters in my document?

Also: is there somewhere a 'complete' list? I found several, but they where
all for LaTeX and are not completely the same. For example LaTeX uses
\textbackslash which does not work in ConTeXt which uses \backslash.

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Re: [NTG-context] List of special characters

2011-08-15 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/15 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com

 While writing the documentation about using ConTeXt I need some 'special'
 characters. A few I have found, for example \%, \backslash, \texttilde,
 \percent. But until now I did not find how to represent [ and ]. How would I
 use those characters in my document?

 Also: is there somewhere a 'complete' list? I found several, but they where
 all for LaTeX and are not completely the same. For example LaTeX uses
 \textbackslash which does not work in ConTeXt which uses \backslash.


I could not find it at first (there are so many things), but one solution I
found:
\startasciimode

%\backslash setupbackend[export=yes,xhtml=yes,css=yes]

\stopasciimode


And while searching a little further I also found:

\type{%\setupbackend[export=yes,xhtml=yes,css=yes]}


This has the added benefit that it displays somewhat better because of the
increased indentation (for which I misuse spaces).

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Re: [NTG-context] List of special characters

2011-08-15 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/15 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com

  While writing the documentation about using ConTeXt I need some 'special'
 characters. A few I have found, for example \%, \backslash, \texttilde,
 \percent. But until now I did not find how to represent [ and ]. How would I
 use those characters in my document?
 
  Also: is there somewhere a 'complete' list? I found several, but they
 where all for LaTeX and are not completely the same. For example LaTeX uses
 \textbackslash which does not work in ConTeXt which uses \backslash.


 \starttext

 [ ] @ _ ^ % normal characters

 \startlines
 \textbackslash\ or \letterbackslash
 \textbraceleft\ or \letterleftbrace\ or \{
 \textbraceright\ or \letterrightbrace\ or \}
 \percent\ or \letterpercent\ or \%
 \textdollar\ or \letterdollar\ or \$
 \letterampersand\ or \
 \letterhash\ or \#
 \stoplines

 \asciimode
 % $ #  %% this is a comment

 \stoptext


I found it also. I new that there was something like it (I had it seen
passing on the mailing list), but could not find it at first.

Do I understand correctly that '%% this is a comment' should not be in the
PDF? Because it is when I compile the document.


 Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] List of special characters

2011-08-15 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/15 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com

 2011/8/15 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com

 While writing the documentation about using ConTeXt I need some 'special'
 characters. A few I have found, for example \%, \backslash, \texttilde,
 \percent. But until now I did not find how to represent [ and ]. How would I
 use those characters in my document?

 Also: is there somewhere a 'complete' list? I found several, but they
 where all for LaTeX and are not completely the same. For example LaTeX uses
 \textbackslash which does not work in ConTeXt which uses \backslash.


 I could not find it at first (there are so many things), but one solution I
 found:
 \startasciimode
 %\backslash setupbackend[export=yes,xhtml=yes,css=yes]
 \stopasciimode

 And while searching a little further I also found:
 \type{%\setupbackend[export=yes,xhtml=yes,css=yes]}

 This has the added benefit that it displays somewhat better because of the
 increased indentation (for which I misuse spaces).


 \setuptyping[margin=yes]

 \starttext

 before

 \starttyping
 \setupbackend[export=yes]
 \stoptyping

 after

 \stoptext


Very nice. I now use:
\setuptyping[

  blank=small,

  lines=no,

  margin=30pt,

]


I have a bigger margin now. The problem is that there is a lot of white
space above and under the typed text. I tried the blank and lines parameters
to get rid of it, but that does not work. How can I get rid of the unwanted
white space?


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Re: [NTG-context] List of special characters

2011-08-15 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/15 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com

  Do I understand correctly that '%% this is a comment' should not be in
 the PDF? Because it is when I compile the document.

 Yes, with \asciimode “%” is a normal character but to put comments in your
 document you can use “%%”.


Does not work on my side. Both percentage signs and the text after it are
displayed in my document.

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Re: [NTG-context] List of special characters

2011-08-15 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/15 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com

  Do I understand correctly that '%% this is a comment' should not be in
 the PDF? Because it is when I compile the document.

 Yes, with \asciimode “%” is a normal character but to put comments in your
 document you can use “%%”.


 Does not work on my side. Both percentage signs and the text after it are
 displayed in my document.


 Does this work?

 \asciimode
 \starttext
 % this is visible %% and this is not
 \stoptext

 When you can read the text after “%%” you need a newer context.


I can read it, but I doubt it that I need a newer ConTeXt. I just this
morning executed:
first-setup.bat --context=current --extras=al

It can not be much newer I would think.

When compiling, the output starts with:
mtx-context | run 1: luatex
--fmt=C:/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/cont-en
--lua=C:/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/cont-en.lui
--backend=pdf ./manualInterflon

This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.70.1-2011080612 (rev 4277)

\write18 enabled.

(manualInterflon.tex

ConTeXt ver: 2011.05.18 18:04 MKIV fmt: 2011.8.15 int: english/english

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Re: [NTG-context] List of special characters

2011-08-15 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/15 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com

   Do I understand correctly that '%% this is a comment' should not be in
 the PDF? Because it is when I compile the document.

 Yes, with \asciimode “%” is a normal character but to put comments in
 your document you can use “%%”.


 Does not work on my side. Both percentage signs and the text after it are
 displayed in my document.


 Does this work?

 \asciimode
 \starttext
 % this is visible %% and this is not
 \stoptext

 When you can read the text after “%%” you need a newer context.


 I can read it, but I doubt it that I need a newer ConTeXt. I just this
 morning executed:
 first-setup.bat --context=current --extras=al

 It can not be much newer I would think.

 ConTeXt ver: 2011.05.18 18:04 MKIV fmt: 2011.8.15 int: english/english

^^

 You use a ConTeXt from May and comments for asciimode where added in Juli.


I overlooked the first date. :-{


I guess you have TeXLive 2011 installed which interferes with ConTeXt
 Standalone.


I thought I only installed ConTeXt Standalone. (The one from
http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/context-setup-mswin.zip.) How can I
find the problem?

I just checked with my version on Linux, there it works like it should. Now
I have to make sure it works also under Windows.

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[NTG-context] Use latest or current version

2011-08-15 Thread Cecil Westerhof
I work 'always' with the latest version of ConTeXt. Now a client is going to
use it. Should I install for them also the latest version, or is it better
to use the current version (--context=current)?

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Re: [NTG-context] List of special characters

2011-08-15 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/15 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com

   Do I understand correctly that '%% this is a comment' should not be in
 the PDF? Because it is when I compile the document.

 Yes, with \asciimode “%” is a normal character but to put comments in
 your document you can use “%%”.


 Does not work on my side. Both percentage signs and the text after it are
 displayed in my document.


 Does this work?

 \asciimode
 \starttext
 % this is visible %% and this is not
 \stoptext

 When you can read the text after “%%” you need a newer context.


 I can read it, but I doubt it that I need a newer ConTeXt. I just this
 morning executed:
 first-setup.bat --context=current --extras=al

 It can not be much newer I would think.

 ConTeXt ver: 2011.05.18 18:04 MKIV fmt: 2011.8.15 int: english/english

^^

 You use a ConTeXt from May and comments for asciimode where added in Juli.


 I overlooked the first date. :-{


 I guess you have TeXLive 2011 installed which interferes with ConTeXt
 Standalone.


 I thought I only installed ConTeXt Standalone. (The one from
 http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/context-setup-mswin.zip.) How can
 I find the problem?

 I just checked with my version on Linux, there it works like it should. Now
 I have to make sure it works also under Windows.


I found the problem. On Windows I installed the current version (for a
client looks like the better option), while on Linux (where I work) I always
use the latest version.

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Re: [NTG-context] Use latest or current version

2011-08-15 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/15 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com

 On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 19:03, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
  I work 'always' with the latest version of ConTeXt. Now a client is going
 to
  use it. Should I install for them also the latest version, or is it
 better
  to use the current version (--context=current)?

 If the latest version works fine, I would install the latest one.
 Current is not ready to use yet :) :) :)


I would expect it the other way around. ;-}


Well, now you are welcome to install current of course, but until I do
 some modifications/completely decouple it, it often happens that
 current breaks/becomes out-of-sync with the rest of distribution.


Then I'll take the part of the current version out of my document.

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[NTG-context] Why is the \crlf needed to display the table correctly

2011-08-15 Thread Cecil Westerhof
On of the things I need to do for the manual about ConTeXt is a list of the
most frequently used commands. I am using some macros to display them
correctly in a table. Attached a strange effect I got. The second row is
displayed wrongly. The third is the same row, but with a \crlf added. This
displays correctly. But I am wondering why it is needed.

Attached the tex and pdf files.

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dummy.tex
Description: TeX document


dummy.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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[NTG-context] Footnote numbering pro page

2011-08-15 Thread Cecil Westerhof
I would like my footnote numbering start on every page with 1. I thought
this should be done with:
\setupnote[footnote][way=bypage]

I also tried:
\setupnotedefinition[footnote][indenting={yes, small, next}, way=bypage]


But both do not work. What is the right way to do it?

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Re: [NTG-context] Why is the \crlf needed to display the table correctly

2011-08-15 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/15 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com

  On of the things I need to do for the manual about ConTeXt is a list of
 the most frequently used commands. I am using some macros to display them
 correctly in a table. Attached a strange effect I got. The second row is
 displayed wrongly. The third is the same row, but with a \crlf added. This
 displays correctly. But I am wondering why it is needed.

 Use “align=right” for the first column.


I changed:
\setupTABLE[c][1][width=.35\textwidth]

into:
 \setupTABLE[c][1][align=right, width=.35\textwidth]


But it does not change anything. (It is the right place I think, because
when using left, or center the formatting changes. But not in a way that is
satisfactory. With center the text stays in the box, but not with left and
right.)


Also it overrides the:

\setupTABLE[r][1][align=center, style=bold]

(The align, not the style.)


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Re: [NTG-context] Why is the \crlf needed to display the table correctly

2011-08-15 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/8/15 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com

 2011/8/15 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com

   On of the things I need to do for the manual about ConTeXt is a list of
 the most frequently used commands. I am using some macros to display them
 correctly in a table. Attached a strange effect I got. The second row is
 displayed wrongly. The third is the same row, but with a \crlf added. This
 displays correctly. But I am wondering why it is needed.

 Use “align=right” for the first column.


 I changed:
 \setupTABLE[c][1][width=.35\textwidth]
 into:
  \setupTABLE[c][1][align=right, width=.35\textwidth]

 But it does not change anything. (It is the right place I think, because
 when using left, or center the formatting changes. But not in a way that is
 satisfactory. With center the text stays in the box, but not with left and
 right.)

 Also it overrides the:
 \setupTABLE[r][1][align=center, style=bold]
 (The align, not the style.)


 Then set the alignment with \bTD in your \StartTable command or just use
 normal table commands.

 \startsetups mytable
   \setupTABLE[header][align=middle,style=bold]
   \setupTABLE[start][align=normal]
   \setupTABLE[c][1][align=right,width=.30\textwidth]
   \setupTABLE[c][2][width=.70\textwidth]
 \stopsetups

 \starttext

 \bTABLE[setups=mytable]
 \bTABLEhead
 \bTR \bTD[nx=2] The most important commands \eTD \eTR
 \eTABLEhead
 \bTABLEbody
 \bTR
   \bTD \type{\completecontent} \eTD
   \bTD This generates a Table of Content. Should be the first statement of
 a document. \eTD
 \eTR
 \bTR
   \bTD \type{\startchapter[title=chapterName]} \eTD
   \bTD Starts a chapter with the named title. Is ended with
 \type{\stopchapter}. \eTD
 \eTR
 \bTR
   \bTD \tex{startchapter [title=chapterName]} \eTD % space needed!
   \bTD Starts a chapter with the named title. Is ended with
 \tex{stopchapter}. \eTD
 \eTR
 \eTABLEbody
 \eTABLE

 \stoptext


I think it is an obscure bug. If I take your code but change the following:
 \setupTABLE[c][1][align=right,width=.35\textwidth]

 \setupTABLE[c][2][width=.65\textwidth]


I have the same problem.

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[NTG-context] Runaway argument with \stoptabulate in a macro

2011-08-03 Thread Cecil Westerhof
I have the following code:
\usemodule[fancybreak]

\definefancybreak[myblank][indentnext=no]

\define[2]\StartWorkTable{
  \myblank[2*big]
  \starttabulate[|w(.1\textwidth)|p(.9\textwidth)|]
  \HL
  \NC #1 \NC #2   \NC\NR
  \HL
  \NC\NC {\bf Gedaan} \NC\NR
}

\define[1]\ActivityWorkTable{
  \NC\NC \bullet\space #1 \NC\NR
}

\define\StopWorkTable{
  \HL
  \stoptabulate
}

\starttext

\StartWorkTable{Huidig}{Senior software engineer bij Artex}
\ActivityWorkTable{Teamleader voor een groep van 5 PHP-programmeurs die
  werken volgens scrum/agile principes. Dit team ontwikkeld
  grootschalige web applicaties met gebruikmaking van PHP/AJAX/Zend en
  HTML5.
}
\ActivityWorkTable{Quality Management}
\ActivityWorkTable{Schrijven documentatie, zowel technische als gebruikers}
\ActivityWorkTable{Definieren nieuwe functionaliteiten}
\ActivityWorkTable{Installeren subversion server en definiëren werkwijze}
\StopWorkTable

\stoptext

When I compile this I get:
compileContextFiles.sh --verbose
* CV.tex was already up to date

mtx-context | run 1: luatex
--fmt=/home/cecil/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/2448223e6631addb83df348d74153606/formats/cont-en
--lua=/home/cecil/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/2448223e6631addb83df348d74153606/formats/cont-en.lui
--backend=pdf ./dummy.tex \stoptext
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.70.1-2011051923 (rev 4277)
 \write18 enabled.
(dummy.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2011.07.14 16:09 MKIV  fmt: 2011.7.19  int: english/english

system   cont-new.mkiv loaded
(/home/cecil/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv
system   beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.mkiv
)
system   dummy.top loaded
(dummy.top)
fontslatin modern fonts are not preloaded
languageslanguage en is active
resolversmodules  loaded: 'fancybreak'
(/home/cecil/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-modules/tex/context/third/fancybreak/t-fancybreak.mkiv
loading  ConTeXt User Module / Fancybreak
){/home/cecil/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/mkiv-base.map}
fontspreloading latin modern fonts (second stage)
(/home/cecil/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-siz.mkiv)
(/home/cecil/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-otf.mkiv)
filesreadfile  asked name: 'loc', not found
{/home/cecil/ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-math.map}{/home/cecil/ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-rm.map}
fontsvirtual math  unable to resolve name mapsfromchar
fontsfallback modern rm 12pt is loaded
)
Runaway argument?
 \HL \NC Huidig \NC Senior software engineer bij Artex \NC \NR \HL \NC \ETC.
! File ended while scanning use of \doprocesscontent.

system   tex  error on line 0 in file : File ended while scanning
use of \doprocesscontent ...

empty file

inserted text
\par
* ./dummy.tex
\stoptext
?

When I put a \stoptabulate after \StopWorkTable it compiles as expected. But
why does the \stoptabulate in \StopWorkTable not work?

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Re: [NTG-context] Can ConTeXt generate QR-codes

2011-07-26 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/7/26 Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r. o. l...@pontex.cz

 But it seem that something doesn't work correctly under Windows - see the
 result attached and the log.

 Pictures to be involved to the document are not generated and (error)
 messages

 zint není názvem vnitřního ani vnějšího příkazu, spustitelného programu
 nebo dávkového souboru.

 (which means zint is not a name of an internal or an external command, an
 executable or a batch file.)


Did you install zint? It is an external program that you need to instal.

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[NTG-context] Can ConTeXt generate QR-codes

2011-07-23 Thread Cecil Westerhof
I would like to integrate qr-codes into documents. (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_code) Is this possible with ConTeXt?

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Re: [NTG-context] Can ConTeXt generate QR-codes

2011-07-23 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/7/23 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com


 Am 23.07.2011 um 11:28 schrieb Cecil Westerhof:

 I would like to integrate qr-codes into documents. (
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_code) Is this possible with ConTeXt?


 \usemodule[zint]

 There is a example at the end of the module.


Works thanks. I had to install zint, but now I can generate them. (And I
have to delve into the matter of-course.)

One strange thing. Sometimes I get:
dummy.texerror: No data received, no symbol generated

The generated PDF looks okay to me and when I generate him again, I do not
get the error and the generated PDF looks the same to me.

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Re: [NTG-context] Can ConTeXt generate QR-codes

2011-07-23 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/7/23 Marcin Borkowski mb...@wmi.amu.edu.pl

  \usemodule[zint]

 
 Out of curiosity: how do I install zint?


That is depending on your operating system. I am using (openSUSE) Linux. I
installed libzint2_4-2.4.0-1.2.i586.rpm and zint-2.4.0-1.2.i586.rpm with rpm
-i.

Different Linuxen can have different methods (for example Debian/Ubuntu uses
apt-get) and for Windows I suppose you have to download an installer.

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[NTG-context] ConTeXt - LaTeXt - ODT?

2011-07-19 Thread Cecil Westerhof
I another thread I talked about my problems with converting my ConTeXt file
to an editable format. In principal going the xhtml way seemed best.

But yesterday I got talking with someone in the train. He told me that it
was possible to convert ConTeXt to LaTeXt and LaTeXt to an ODT file. This
could solve my problem. Was this person correct? If yes, how would I do
this?

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt - LaTeXt - ODT?

2011-07-19 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/7/19 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl

 On 19-7-2011 10:47, Cecil Westerhof wrote:

 I another thread I talked about my problems with converting my ConTeXt
 file
 to an editable format. In principal going the xhtml way seemed best.

 But yesterday I got talking with someone in the train. He told me that it
 was possible to convert ConTeXt to LaTeXt and LaTeXt to an ODT file. This
 could solve my problem. Was this person correct? If yes, how would I do
 this?


 context - latex sounds like a no-go to me


Okay, I'll discard this option then. (Or someone else must have a way to do
the ConTeXt - LaTeXt part.)


At some point if could be interesting to see if we could go from the context
 xml export (structure makeup) to odt (office makeup) but it's not something
 that I'll do for fun (I have no need for it anyway).


If I could help in a way …

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[NTG-context] Use of \hairline in the header

2011-07-19 Thread Cecil Westerhof
I have the following document:
\setupheader[
  after={\startalignment[center]\hairline\stopalignment},
  style={\switchtobodyfont[9pt]},
]

\setuplayout[
  footer=0mm,
  header=10mm,
]

\setupheadertexts[]
\setupheadertexts[Documentation for product XYZ –concept–]
 [version: 2001-07-19]

\starttext

Just some text to fill the document.

\stoptext


I would expect the hairline to be at the  same place as the text of the
document, but instead it is completely left aligned. What am I doing wrong?

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dummy.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt to Markdown (was Edit a ConTeXt generated document with Adobe Acrobat Professional)

2011-07-19 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/7/18 Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu

 On Thu, 14 Jul 2011, John Haltiwanger wrote:

  PS. For what it is worth, I do not think it would be _too_ hard to create
 a
 Context to Markdown translator.


 Yes. A while back I did some tests (though I cannot find them now), and had
 most of the basic ConTeXt-to-markdown working (sections, blockquotes,
 typing, itemize, footnotes (via endnotes); but no tables and figures). The
 main idea was to *typeset* the output as you would expect a markdown
 documnet to be, and then use pdftotext to convert it to text. (Hans had
 mentioned this as a possible way to convert to HTML during TUG 2009).


When you find them, I would be interested in them. And maybe I can improve
on them.

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Re: [NTG-context] General suggestion: Unit tests for ConText

2011-07-19 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/7/18 Peter Schorsch trala...@freenet.de

 during my work with context I wrote a bunch of fewliners mainly to test
 how to do things. When there change from mkii to mkiv occured many of
 my mini-tests failed and later with the growing of mkiv restartet to
 work - some just without adaption.. some with some adjustment to a new
 syntax.

 I realize that they have the same functionality like unit-tests -
 just instead of comparing classes and variables - a pdf-output is
 visually compared.

 So I like to suggest to introduce unit tests for context. It would

a) increase the quality of context as it makes the
testing easier for the developer

b) it also would be a great source of minihowtos for learning
context.

 Before I write my technical ideas about this I would like to know what
 are you thinking about this idea?


I think it is a great idea.

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Re: [NTG-context] General suggestion: Unit tests for ConText

2011-07-19 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/7/19 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl

 fyi: there is an archive with a bunch of tests (mostly mine but I
 occasionally add -adapted- samples from the list):

 http://www.pragma-ade.nl/**context/latest/cont-tst.7zhttp://www.pragma-ade.nl/context/latest/cont-tst.7z

 Quite some of these can be used for testing, some can also serve as
 examples of usage. I have a script that can process them and keep track of
 changes at a rough pixel level but simply have no time to keep up with that.


How much time would cost that? Maybe I could do that.

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt - LaTeXt - ODT?

2011-07-19 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/7/19 Martin Schröder mar...@oneiros.de

 2011/7/19 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com:
  If you can throw away any formatting you did and if you didn't use too
  many ConTeXt specific tricks, you can simply rewrite your code to
  LaTeX with a few regular expressions etc. But in the same spirit it
  might be way easier to just convert the document straight to ODT
  using copy-paste and applying some formatting there.

 Or, if you know up front that you need multiple output formats,
 you could use Markdown/Pandoc etc. and let it generate ConTeXt
 as needed.


I did not know. They where happy with PDF's all the time, but when the
project was almost finished, they changed the requirements. But maybe good
to keep in mind for the next project.

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt - LaTeXt - ODT?

2011-07-19 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/7/19 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl

 Concerning OTD: if you need to be roundtrip, then you also need to be able
 to convert back, which might be non trivial.


Roundtrip is not necessary I think (in this case). As I understand it: after
delivery we do not have to change the document anymore. And if we have, well
we just use Open Office. (Or Libre.)

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt - LaTeXt - ODT?

2011-07-19 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/7/19 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com

  As I understand it: after
  delivery we do not have to change the document anymore. And if we have,
 well
  we just use Open Office. (Or Libre.)

 I wonder why someone would want to hire third-party to create them a
 document in OpenOffice if they:
 - know how to use OpenOffice
 - don't need proffessional typography
 - have to provide input/text in some form anyway

 What was their input? Was it a database at least?


They use a program that is been made by the company I am working for. It was
used for ten years, but never documented. First it was they wanted
documentation because they did not want to be lost if our company stops
working on the application. Now they want to further develop the application
themselves.(They have the rights on the sources.) And then it is handy that
you can change the documentation. ;-}

It was quite a learning experience altogether.

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Re: [NTG-context] Use of \hairline in the header

2011-07-19 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/7/19 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com

  I have the following document:
  \setupheader[
after={\startalignment[center]\hairline\stopalignment},
style={\switchtobodyfont[9pt]},
  ]

 \setupheader[text][after=\hairline,...]


Works. Thanks.

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Re: [NTG-context] Export to xhtml and useurl

2011-07-18 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/7/18 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl

 On 16-7-2011 12:32, Cecil Westerhof wrote:

 I need to export my document. For this I use:
 \setupbackend[export=yes,**xhtml=yes,css=yes]

 I have update my document with start and stop for chapter, section and
 subsection, but I have one problem. I have:
 \useURL
   [UUID]
   [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Uuidhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uuid
 ]
   []
   [universally unique identifier]
 and when I also have:
 \from[UUID]

 I get:
 system  end file documentatie.tex at line 3398
  )/home/cecil/ConTeXt/tex/**texmf/fonts/opentype/public/**
 tex-gyre/texgyreheros-**bolditalic.otf{/home/cecil/**
 ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/enc/**dvips/lm/lm-mathsy.enc}/home/**
 cecil/ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/**opentype/public/tex-gyre/**
 texgyreheros-bold.otf/home/**cecil/ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/**
 opentype/public/tex-gyre/**texgyreheros-regular.otf/**
 home/cecil/ConTeXt/tex/texmf/**fonts/type1/public/lm/lmsy10.**pfb
 backend  export  finalizing
 ! LuaTeX error ...TeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/**
 context/base/back-exp.lua:328:
 bad argument #2 to 'write' (string expected, got nil).


 a real small test file is needed


This works:
\setupinteraction[
  color=blue,
  contrastcolor=red,
  focus=standard,
  state=start,
]

%\setupbackend[export=yes,xhtml=yes,css=yes]

\useURL
  [UUID]
  [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uuid]
  []
  [universally unique identifier]

\starttext

This new id is generated much like an \from[UUID]. The reason for the
change was that in this way a client number could be generated offline
and/or different databases could be merged without the risk that id's
would clash.

\stoptext

But when the \setupbackend is taken out of comment, it goes wrong.

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[NTG-context] Export to xhtml and useurl

2011-07-16 Thread Cecil Westerhof
I need to export my document. For this I use:
\setupbackend[export=yes,xhtml=yes,css=yes]

I have update my document with start and stop for chapter, section and
subsection, but I have one problem. I have:
\useURL
  [UUID]
  [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uuid]
  []
  [universally unique identifier]
and when I also have:
\from[UUID]

I get:
system   end file documentatie.tex at line 3398
 
)/home/cecil/ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheros-bolditalic.otf{/home/cecil/ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/lm-mathsy.enc}/home/cecil/ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheros-bold.otf/home/cecil/ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheros-regular.otf/home/cecil/ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/type1/public/lm/lmsy10.pfb
backend  export  finalizing
! LuaTeX error ...TeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/back-exp.lua:328:
bad argument #2 to 'write' (string expected, got nil).

system   tex  error on line 0 in file : LuaTeX error  ...

empty file

* ./documentatie.tex

So properly I need to change something. But what?

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Re: [NTG-context] Edit a ConTeXt generated document with Adobe Acrobat Professional

2011-07-15 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/7/15 John Haltiwanger john.haltiwan...@gmail.com

 Cecil, I don't think its fair to constrain yourself from ever using Context
 again.


That was not what I mend. When making my own stuff where I do not have the
need off interoperability I will keep using it. But in other case I should
evaluate the situation correctly. Between a rock an a hard place is not a
nice position. ;-}



 What does 'competely independent' mean?


Properly that anybody that knows how to write a document in Microsoft Office
can change the document. So standard software, with a low learning curve. I
had some problems getting them to accept to use Adobe. And now that turns
out to be not a real option. Learning all the time as Benny Hill said.



 If you have been asked to hand over layout decisions, the best is to
 reproduce your document in XHTML, copy it into a word processor, and let
 them proceed with their own desing in their proprietary WYSIWYG software.


No the problem is not the layout. They are satisfied with that. They just do
not want to be dependent on our company.



 Even if they just want to make textual changes, this is probably still be
 your best bet. You can then relatively easily convert them back to Context
 (a matter of re-mapping text into Context).


That sounds like a good plan. Converting back is properly not necessary. But
it would not hurt if it is possible.



 There is a plan I have to produce an easier-for-point-and-clickers
 interface to collaborate on high quality Context based layouts, but the time
 hasn't appeared to materialize it yet.


Sounds good. If I could be of help …



 If you search through the archives for 'pandoc' you will see that many of
 us have chosen to abstract ourselves from direct dependence on Context for
 our document 'coding'. There is a tangible flexibility provided by writing
 in a visually semantic preformat like Markdown. It helps during the editing
 stages because it is easy to generate other formats that people are more
 familiar with (OpenOffice can be converted to Word---then it is a matter of
 'backporting' changes to the Context source).


I'll do that.



 If they weren't clear about planning to take on this design
 responsibility--which they should have long before the deadline--than I feel
 it is the fault of the editors and not the fault of Context. Under such
 conditions I would have written text for these people in something they
 understand, like an word processor document (LibreOffice can save as MS Word
 easily enough).


That is what I mend that in hindsight I should not have used ConTeXt. ;-}



 Sorry to hear you are having trouble with this. I know what it is like to
 face the edge of a deadline.


I'll survive, I always did. :-D

I have to thank this list for the help and support.

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Re: [NTG-context] Edit a ConTeXt generated document with Adobe Acrobat Professional

2011-07-15 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/7/15 Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com

MkIV can create XML. :-)


 That is something I have heard much more than I have seen.

 If it can so easily do so, could a wizard please intervene and provide a
 recipe for producing XHTML from standard Context input?[^1]


  \setupbackend[export=yes,**xhtml=yes,css=yes]

 But it still has a few issues, so any problem reports are more than
 welcome.


I tried that, but it ends with:
pagesflushing realpage 109, userpage 109
system   end file documentatie at line 2618
 
)/home/cecil/ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheros-bolditalic.otf{/home/cecil/ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/lm-mathsy.enc}/home/cecil/ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheros-bold.otf/home/cecil/ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheros-regular.otf/home/cecil/ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/type1/public/lm/lmsy10.pfb
backend  export  finalizing
! LuaTeX error ...TeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/back-exp.lua:328:
bad argument #2 to 'write' (string expected, got nil).

system   tex  error on line 0 in file : LuaTeX error  ...

empty file

* ./documentatie

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Re: [NTG-context] Edit a ConTeXt generated document with Adobe Acrobat Professional

2011-07-15 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/7/15 Andreas Schneider ak...@gmx.de

 At Friday, 15.07.2011 on 10:17 Cecil Westerhof wrote:
  Properly that anybody that knows how to write a document in Microsoft
 Office
  can change the document. So standard software, with a low learning curve.
 I
  had some problems getting them to accept to use Adobe. And now that turns
  out to be not a real option. Learning all the time as Benny Hill said.

 That's absolutely not true. MS Office Word has a pretty steep learning
 curve, people just neglect that and take it for a slightly more complex
 notepad. It's not, as can be seen be the loads of completely unprofessional
 done documents ... not consistent styles, no auto generated index, no cross
 references, no proper bibliography (where it applies), etc. (Hell, I even
 saw documents where footnotes where done [superscript] and numbered
 manually.)
 That's exactly the problem with Word, Writer, etc., that people think it's
 an easy to use tool, just because it's WYSIWYG. If you don't know what you
 are doing, you WILL do it wrong, even (or especially) with such an easy
 tool as Word or Writer.


I agree. But that is accepted practice. I find that most times it is more
important to generate something fast and then have to use a lot of time to
get things changed or right, then to setup things correctly (which takes
time) and in the future can change things faster, more efficient en more
consistent.

In a way I am even afraid that the better pleasing document I generated
could be pearls to the swines.



 Also with TeXworks it's already pretty WYSIWYG, imho. Change the code, hit
 run, and see the result :)


Something to look into then.



  No the problem is not the layout. They are satisfied with that. They just
 do
  not want to be dependent on our company.

 They don't have to. Give them ConTeXt, give them TeXworks, give them the
 source to the documents. Then they can do whatever they want.


I'll give it a try.

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[NTG-context] From \chapter to \startchapter \stopchapter

2011-07-15 Thread Cecil Westerhof
Instead of only pdf I also need to generate XHTML. For this I need to use
\startchapter and \stopchapter instead of \chapter.

When it is like:
\chapter{A descriptive title}
I have to change it to:
\startchapter[title=A descriptive title]
.
.
.
\stopchapter

But how do I change something like:
\chapter[aboutLink]{A descriptive title}

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[NTG-context] Edit a ConTeXt generated document with Adobe Acrobat Professional

2011-07-14 Thread Cecil Westerhof
Two days ago I already posted about this. But because of a glitch at my
side, it became a conversation between me and Hans Hagen.

I have almost finished writing documentation with ConTeXt. Now the client
also needs to have the possibility to change the document. We are so far
that the client will work with Adobe Acrobat. Now I have to prove that they
can edit it. My boss has a 'recent' version 8 (latest is X). It does not
look very promising to edit a document, but that is at this moment not the
biggest problem.

When I try to change text, I get:
All or part of the selection has no available system font. You cannot
add or delete text using the currently selected font.

I have added a screenshot of the font properties.

Is this a problem because of the old Adobe version, or the used fonts? If
the latter, which fonts should I use to circumvent this problem?

At the moment I am using:
\usetypescript[helvetica]
\setupbodyfont[helvetica]
because they did not like the default font.

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Re: [NTG-context] Edit a ConTeXt generated document with Adobe Acrobat Professional

2011-07-14 Thread Cecil Westerhof
Thanks for the speedy reply.

2011/7/14 luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com

  Is this a problem because of the old Adobe version, or the used fonts? If
  the latter, which fonts should I use to circumvent this problem?
 
  At the moment I am using:
  \usetypescript[helvetica]
  \setupbodyfont[helvetica]
  because they did not like the default font.
 It's simple: the host where the adobe pro is run has not the fonts.
 So the host must install these fonts --- they have a permissive
 license and they come with the minimals too.
 This will be true whatever version of Acrobat Pro  you will use, even X.


I did not think it had to do with 8, but it is never wrong to ask.

Maybe a dump question, but how do I install the fonts? Or how do I determine
a font that is installed with ConTeXt and Adobe? They have about 700 fonts.
So maybe there is an usable font that both systems have.

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Re: [NTG-context] Edit a ConTeXt generated document with Adobe Acrobat Professional

2011-07-14 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/7/14 luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com

   Is this a problem because of the old Adobe version, or the used fonts?
   If
   the latter, which fonts should I use to circumvent this problem?
  
   At the moment I am using:
   \usetypescript[helvetica]
   \setupbodyfont[helvetica]
   because they did not like the default font.
  It's simple: the host where the adobe pro is run has not the fonts.
  So the host must install these fonts --- they have a permissive
  license and they come with the minimals too.
  This will be true whatever version of Acrobat Pro  you will use, even X.
 
  I did not think it had to do with 8, but it is never wrong to ask.
 
  Maybe a dump question, but how do I install the fonts? Or how do I
 determine
  a font that is installed with ConTeXt and Adobe? They have about 700
 fonts.
  So maybe there is an usable font that both systems have.
 The font with the minimals are inside the minimals and they can be
 query with mtxrun.
 They are independent and separated from the system.
 The same for texlive.


I just ran:
mtxrun --script fonts --list --info --pattern=*

but only get:
mtx-fonts   |
mtx-fonts   | mapping : texmfhome
mtx-fonts   | fontname: texmfhome
mtx-fonts   | fullname: texmfhome
mtx-fonts   | filename: texmfhome.otf
mtx-fonts   | family  : texmfhome
mtx-fonts   | weight  : medium
mtx-fonts   | style   : normal
mtx-fonts   | width   : normal
mtx-fonts   | variant : normal
mtx-fonts   | subfont :
mtx-fonts   | fweight :
mtx-fonts   |

I also ran:
mtxrun --script fonts --reload

But that does not change the output from:
mtxrun --script fonts --list --info --pattern=*


Windows and MacOS have they way to install/query system fonts.
 Usually one install a font from context into the system fonts as an
 ordinary font, at least under Windows.


I work with ConTeXt under Linux and Adobe runs under Windows.

What do I need to do to get things working.

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Re: [NTG-context] Edit a ConTeXt generated document with Adobe Acrobat Professional

2011-07-14 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/7/14 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl

 you can look at the list of reported fonts, and put those in the
 windows/fonts (forget about type1, just stick to the ttf/otf)


I executed
find . -name '*Gyre*'

But that does not find anything.

or instead you can use fonts that come with the operating system when making
 the pdf


I am building on Linux and the editing has to be done on Windows. So I am
afraid that it is not going to work. (But I like to be proven wrong.) I
removed all setting of fonts, so I think the OS font was used. But the same
problem in Adobe. (LMRoman)

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Re: [NTG-context] Edit a ConTeXt generated document with Adobe Acrobat Professional

2011-07-14 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/7/14 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com

 2011/7/14 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl

 you can look at the list of reported fonts, and put those in the
 windows/fonts (forget about type1, just stick to the ttf/otf)


 I executed
 find . -name '*Gyre*'

 But that does not find anything.


Found them. The names are all lowercase. I have:
./context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheros-regular.otf
./context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheroscn-italic.otf
./context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheroscn-bold.otf
./context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheros-italic.otf
./context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheroscn-regular.otf
./context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheroscn-bolditalic.otf
./context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheros-bold.otf
./context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheros-bolditalic.otf
./ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheros-regular.otf
./ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheroscn-italic.otf
./ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheroscn-bold.otf
./ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheros-italic.otf
./ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheroscn-regular.otf
./ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheroscn-bolditalic.otf
./ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheros-bold.otf
./ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheros-bolditalic.otf

I can install them without problems? There is no restricting copyright on
them?

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Re: [NTG-context] Edit a ConTeXt generated document with Adobe Acrobat Professional

2011-07-14 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/7/14 Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com

 Found them. The names are all lowercase. I have:
 ./context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheros-regular.otf

 ./context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheroscn-italic.otf
 ./context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheroscn-bold.otf
 ./context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheros-italic.otf

 ./context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheroscn-regular.otf

 ./context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheroscn-bolditalic.otf
 ./context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheros-bold.otf

 ./context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheros-bolditalic.otf
 ./ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheros-regular.otf

 ./ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheroscn-italic.otf
 ./ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheroscn-bold.otf
 ./ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheros-italic.otf

 ./ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheroscn-regular.otf

 ./ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheroscn-bolditalic.otf
 ./ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheros-bold.otf

 ./ConTeXt/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/tex-gyre/texgyreheros-bolditalic.otf

 I can install them without problems? There is no restricting copyright on
 them?


I installed them. (When you know what to do, it is not hard.) Now I can
change the document. The only problem is that when deleting a page, or
adding a page, etc., the index and the page numbering  does not change. But
that could be that I do not understand Adobe. Five minutes is hardly enough
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Re: [NTG-context] Edit a ConTeXt generated document with Adobe Acrobat Professional

2011-07-14 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/7/14 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com

 From Adobe's point of view the page number is just a string that has
 nothing to do with the page number itself. And so is the index. Adobe
 has no information at all that the thing on the first page is an index
 and thus won't update it.


Then I have a problem. :-{



 You also cannot expect from Adobe to support editing equations.


I agree.



 You would need to convince your clients to use something similar to
 LyX (and convince TeX developers to write a better LyX) in order to do
 that.


That is not going to work I am afraid. Besides that uses TeX/LaTeX and my
document is ConTeXt.

Is there a possibility to export to a format that is editable? HTML is
possible of-course, but is there a better possibility?

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Re: [NTG-context] Edit a ConTeXt generated document with Adobe Acrobat Professional

2011-07-14 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/7/14 John Haltiwanger john.haltiwan...@gmail.com

 I installed them. (When you know what to do, it is not hard.) Now I can
 change the document. The only problem is that when deleting a page, or
 adding a page, etc., the index and the page numbering  does not change. But
 that could be that I do not understand Adobe. Five minutes is hardly enough
 to learn to work with it.



 This would be a funciton of typesetting. The table of contents is indexed
 to the document as it is typeset, not dynamically throughout its existence.
 If you were to delete all the pages except for the table of contents, it
 would still refer to all the same pages.

 If this is a necessary part of your workflow, then it sounds like a WYSIWYG
 tool like Scribus or InDesign is more appropriate (unfortunately).


The problem is that my document already is finished. First I could just
deliver a PDF file. Now they want to edit it themselves. Or can I generate
from my tex file something that has the meta information and can be edited
in Scribus?

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Re: [NTG-context] Edit a ConTeXt generated document with Adobe Acrobat Professional

2011-07-14 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/7/14 John Haltiwanger john.haltiwan...@gmail.com

 This would be a funciton of typesetting. The table of contents is indexed
 to the document as it is typeset, not dynamically throughout its existence.
 If you were to delete all the pages except for the table of contents, it
 would still refer to all the same pages.

 If this is a necessary part of your workflow, then it sounds like a WYSIWYG
 tool like Scribus or InDesign is more appropriate (unfortunately).


 The problem is that my document already is finished. First I could just
 deliver a PDF file. Now they want to edit it themselves. Or can I generate
 from my tex file something that has the meta information and can be edited
 in Scribus?


 Nope. As Mojca mentioned, PDF does not account for this kind of thing. I
 mentioned those tools as a basis for constructing an entire document from
 scratch. They have automatic page referencing similar to Context, but not in
 a post-hoc fashion.

 If they are only copy editing, I think you would be best served by
 exporting to xhtml. I generally write all my documents in Markdown and
 convert using Pandoc, so I'm not familiar with Context's xhtml capacities.

 If they are doing layout.. Ouch.


I typesetted my document yes.  The client has to receive a deliverable this
weekend, so my stress hormones will be high the coming days. I have to count
my options and select the best. (Or least bad.)

Everyone thanks. And next time I want more information when starting writing
documentation.

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Re: [NTG-context] Edit a ConTeXt generated document with Adobe Acrobat Professional

2011-07-14 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/7/14 Peter Münster pmli...@free.fr

  The problem is that my document already is finished. First I could just
  deliver a PDF file. Now they want to edit it themselves.

 They could install context on their computer...


They could, but they will not. Some facts of life are not easily changed.

To be honest I do not think it is a real solution. If I see how much work it
was for me to get things done and taking into account that I am a
command-line 'freak', you can not expect point and click people to do it.

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Re: [NTG-context] Edit a ConTeXt generated document with Adobe Acrobat Professional

2011-07-14 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/7/14 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com

  I typesetted my document yes.  The client has to receive a deliverable
 this
  weekend, so my stress hormones will be high the coming days. I have to
 count
  my options and select the best. (Or least bad.)

 If there are tiny corrections to do they can just as well edit the
 sources themselves (or send you corrections).


That was as how I expected it to going to work. But (now) they want to be
completely independent. 'Everybody' should have the possibility to edit the
document. In hindsight it was properly the wrong decision to work with
ConTeXt. The quality of the document is high, but because of the shift in
requirements there is now a problem.

Well, I like a challenge. Now I got one. :-)

Maybe I should dedicate a page to this problem. I am taken by surprise, but
if I can circumvent others to have the same surprise ...

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[NTG-context] Can not become member of NTG

2011-07-13 Thread Cecil Westerhof
I tried to become a member, but after submitting the form I get:
Not acceptable!

I entered all the fields except postbus and telefoon.
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[NTG-context] Editable PDF-document

2011-07-12 Thread Cecil Westerhof
I am creating a PDF document with ConTeXt. This document should also be
editable by the client itself. Two persons in the company I am working for
tried to add annotations for me. One was using Infix. When trying to edit
the document, he auto magically was transferred to a place in the document
30 or 40 pages further. Someone else worked with NitroPDF. He managed (as
far as I know without problems) to give 38 annotations, but the size of the
document increased from 5.4 MB to 102 MB. This looks not workable. Is there
a way I can change the generated PDF so that the client will be able to edit
the PDF when he gets it, or could I better generate HTML?

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[NTG-context] Links

2011-07-12 Thread Cecil Westerhof
De links naar de PDF bestanden op
http://www.ntg.nl/maps/42/index.html
werken niet.

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[NTG-context] 'Rainbow' header/footer

2011-07-11 Thread Cecil Westerhof
I am using ConTeXt to make documentation for a webbased application. (100+
document) Last week they showed me another document with used a kind of
rainbow (but completely filled at the upper part) for the page header and a
180 degrees rotated one with different colors for the page footer. Now they
want me to do the same. What is the best way to do this?

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[NTG-context] How to get the chapter number

2011-07-06 Thread Cecil Westerhof
At the moment I have the following in my document:
In the chapters 7 to 12 a more in depth description of the
functionalities will be given.

For this document it is not a real problem. (I do not expect the chapter
structure to change often.) But it would be nicer to get the chapter numbers
auto generated. Is this possible?

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Re: [NTG-context] How to get the chapter number

2011-07-06 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/7/6 luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com

 On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Cecil Westerhof cldwester...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  At the moment I have the following in my document:
  In the chapters 7 to 12 a more in depth description of the
  functionalities will be given.
 
  For this document it is not a real problem. (I do not expect the chapter
  structure to change often.) But it would be nicer to get the chapter
 numbers
  auto generated. Is this possible?
 I (and I suppose others) don't understand your question.
 Does not \chapter work ?


Sorry, communication is not my strong point. :-{

What I mean. I have something like:

\chapter{General description}
.
.
This is explained in chapters 7 to 12.
.
.
\chapter{another}
.
.
\chapter{first explaining}  % this is (now) chapter 7
 .
.
\chapter{last explaining} % this is (now) chapter 12

When chapters are added, moved or removed. The chapter numbers in the above
sentence have to be changed manually. As a real programmer I am lazy and
want the computer do it for me. :-D

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Re: [NTG-context] How to get the chapter number

2011-07-06 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/7/6 Pontus Lurcock p...@talvi.net

 On Wed 06 Jul 2011, Cecil Westerhof wrote:

  What I mean. I have something like:
 
  \chapter{General description}
  .
  .
  This is explained in chapters 7 to 12.
  .
  .
  \chapter{another}
  .
  .
  \chapter{first explaining}  % this is (now) chapter 7
   .
  .
  \chapter{last explaining} % this is (now) chapter 12
 
  When chapters are added, moved or removed. The chapter numbers in the
 above
  sentence have to be changed manually. As a real programmer I am lazy and
  want the computer do it for me. :-D

 See http://wiki.contextgarden.net/References .


Works, thanks.

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[NTG-context] Changing the colors of a button

2011-07-05 Thread Cecil Westerhof
I am trying the following:
  \button[backgroundcolor=darkgray,framecolor=black,framecorner=round]{Go
Back}[PreviousJump]

The parameter framecolor works (I tried it with green). Framecorner works
also, but backgroundcolor not. How can I change the background and text
color of the button?

Also would it not be better when clicking on this button, the highlighting
also works with rounded corners?

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Re: [NTG-context] Changing the colors of a button

2011-07-05 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/7/5 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com

  I am trying the following:
\button[backgroundcolor=darkgray,framecolor=black,framecorner=round]{Go
 Back}[PreviousJump]
 
  The parameter framecolor works (I tried it with green). Framecorner works
 also, but backgroundcolor not. How can I change the background and text
 color of the button?

 ...,background=color,backgroundcolor=darkgray,color=NAME,...


Works. I now have:
  \button[
background=color,
backgroundcolor=darkgray,
color=white,
framecolor=black,
framecorner=round,
rulethickness=2pt]
{Go Back}
[PreviousJump]

and this does what I want.

One slight problem. The backgroundcolor is a rectangle en goes out of the
rounded button.

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Re: [NTG-context] Changing the colors of a button

2011-07-05 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2011/7/5 Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com

  One slight problem. The backgroundcolor is a rectangle en goes out of the
 rounded button.

 Add “backgroundcorner=round”.


Overlooked it. Now added. But did not solve my problem. What I mend is that
when I click on the button, the inversion is done for the rectangle. So the
button is displayed correctly with rounded corners, but when clicking on the
button, the inversion goes out of the button because the complete rectangle
is inverted. I would like to have the part outside of the rounded button not
inverted.

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