Re: [nysbirds-l] Spoonbill

[Joe Jannsen]

Just took flight to harbor side.

Joe

On Jul 27, 2021, at 5:14 PM, Joe Jannsen  wrote:

 Spoonbill continues at extreme southern end of St. John’s Pond.  Distant but 
good views.

Joe

On Jul 27, 2021, at 10:10 AM, Robert A. Proniewych  wrote:


Has moved to the Westside of St. John's Pond. Cold Spring Harbor.
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Spoonbill

[Joe Jannsen]

Just took flight to harbor side.

Joe

On Jul 27, 2021, at 5:14 PM, Joe Jannsen  wrote:

 Spoonbill continues at extreme southern end of St. John’s Pond.  Distant but 
good views.

Joe

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Has moved to the Westside of St. John's Pond. Cold Spring Harbor.
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Spoonbill

[Joe Jannsen]

Spoonbill continues at extreme southern end of St. John’s Pond.  Distant but 
good views.

Joe

On Jul 27, 2021, at 10:10 AM, Robert A. Proniewych  wrote:


Has moved to the Westside of St. John's Pond. Cold Spring Harbor.
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Spoonbill

[Joe Jannsen]

Spoonbill continues at extreme southern end of St. John’s Pond.  Distant but 
good views.

Joe

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RE: Re:[nysbirds-l] Oystercatchers at Plumb Beach

[Joe Jannsen]

Yes, oystercatchers are protected by the MBTA.  MBTA does not include 
harassment, so for it to apply, you would need a direct take of an adult or 
eggs at this stage, or of chicks if it gets to that point.

Joe

From: TURNER 
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 8:14 PM
To: Joe Jannsen ; Gus Keri ; Smith, Jason Y 
(DEC) ; Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert 

Subject: RE: Re:[nysbirds-l] Oystercatchers at Plumb Beach


Wouldn't MBTA protect oystercatchers?



John T.
On May 27, 2021 at 5:54 PM Joe Jannsen 
mailto:jjann...@tnc.org>> wrote:

Yes—that was already arranged with NPS.



Thanks for also following up.



Joe



From: 
bounce-125669674-10871...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-125669674-10871...@list.cornell.edu>
 
mailto:bounce-125669674-10871...@list.cornell.edu>>
 On Behalf Of Gus Keri
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 3:33 PM
To: Smith, Jason Y (DEC) 
mailto:jason.sm...@dec.ny.gov>>; Birding alert, 
NYSBirds, Birding alert mailto:nysbirds-l@cornell.edu>>
Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] Oystercatchers at Plumb Beach



Thank you Jason for immediate response and action.
I hope this nest will survive until the weekend.
Gus

 On Thu, 27 May 2021 14:01:31 -0400 Smith, Jason Y (DEC) 
mailto:jason.sm...@dec.ny.gov>> wrote 
> div.zm_-5476009931034783622_parse_-1648336103378843337 P { margin-top: 0; 
> margin-bottom: 0 }Gus,
> Some potential good news. I was able to contact NPS and they will try and get 
> to the area by Saturday morning to put up a symbolic fence around the nest.
> It leaves them vulnerable for the next few days...but hopefully they can get 
> the area marked off before anything happens.
> Jason
> Jason C. Smith |Biodiversity Ecologist
> New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
> 47-40 21st Street, Long Island City, NY 11101
> Phone: 718-482-4919 | Fax: 718-482-4502
> Email: jason.sm...@dec.ny.gov<mailto:jason.sm...@dec.ny.gov>
> "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we 
> created them" -Einstein
>
>
>
>
> From: Smith, Jason Y (DEC)
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 12:34 PM
> To: gusk...@zoho.com<mailto:gusk...@zoho.com> 
> mailto:gusk...@zoho.com>>
> Subject: Oystercatchers at Plumb Beach Gus,
> I'm a biologist with the NYDEC out of the Long Island City regional office. A 
> co-worker forwarded me your email about the Oystercatcher nest at Plumb Beach.
> While I am not familiar with this nest in 2021, I am very familiar with where 
> the Oystercatchers have tried to nest in the past on that beach. 
> Unfortunately, it has never ended well.
> Both the National Park Service and the NYC Parks & Recreation are responsible 
> for managing that property and it is generally managed as a recreational 
> access area and not as protected area for nesting shorebirds or waterbirds. 
> Plumb Beach primarily serves as a kayak/wind surfing launch, and a rest area 
> for vehicles travelling on the Belt Parkway. As you note, there is a lot of 
> recreational foot traffic through there. And folks with dogs usually take 
> them off their leash there to run. Which is prohibited, but largely goes 
> unenforced as there are no permanent staff there.
> The area just north of Plumb Beach, Marine Park does have an area that is 
> preserved for wildlife. Here is a link to the NYC Parks website for the 
> preserve: Forever Wild : NYC Parks (nycgovparks.org)Forever Wild : NYC 
> ParksMost of the Marine Park Preserve consists of salt marshes and uplands 
> that flank Gerritsen Creek, the westernmost freshwater inlet of Jamaica Bay. 
> Jamaica Bay is an 18,000-acre wetland estuary that provides a unique 
> environment for both wildlife preservation and urban recreation. Enclosed by 
> the ...www.nycgovparks.org
> This area is the reason why Plumb Beach is so attractive to Oystercatchers. 
> So, in a way it was the NPS and NYC Parks' way of finding a compromise for 
> the two land use issues in the area. If the Oystercatchers would only nest 
> across the channel(north of the marina and south of the bridge crossing the 
> channel between Plumb and Marine Park) from where you are likely seeing them 
> (as you go around the bend towards the wetland north of the beach) that would 
> eliminate the conflict. That area isn't currently suited obviously, otherwise 
> the Oystercatchers would nest there. But it could be set up to.
>
> The area where they are (likely) nesting is suited, if not for the high level 
> of recreational activity. Even without any dogs off their leash.
> I will however reach out to colleagues at the NPS and make sure they are 
> aware of the nest and ask if they can demark the area. Unfortunately, 
> American Oystercatcher are not protected under NYS law as a threatened, 
> endangered, or special concern speci

RE: Re:[nysbirds-l] Oystercatchers at Plumb Beach

[Joe Jannsen]

Yes, oystercatchers are protected by the MBTA.  MBTA does not include 
harassment, so for it to apply, you would need a direct take of an adult or 
eggs at this stage, or of chicks if it gets to that point.

Joe

From: TURNER 
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 8:14 PM
To: Joe Jannsen ; Gus Keri ; Smith, Jason Y 
(DEC) ; Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert 

Subject: RE: Re:[nysbirds-l] Oystercatchers at Plumb Beach


Wouldn't MBTA protect oystercatchers?



John T.
On May 27, 2021 at 5:54 PM Joe Jannsen 
mailto:jjann...@tnc.org>> wrote:

Yes—that was already arranged with NPS.



Thanks for also following up.



Joe



From: 
bounce-125669674-10871...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-125669674-10871...@list.cornell.edu>
 
mailto:bounce-125669674-10871...@list.cornell.edu>>
 On Behalf Of Gus Keri
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 3:33 PM
To: Smith, Jason Y (DEC) 
mailto:jason.sm...@dec.ny.gov>>; Birding alert, 
NYSBirds, Birding alert mailto:nysbirds-l@cornell.edu>>
Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] Oystercatchers at Plumb Beach



Thank you Jason for immediate response and action.
I hope this nest will survive until the weekend.
Gus

 On Thu, 27 May 2021 14:01:31 -0400 Smith, Jason Y (DEC) 
mailto:jason.sm...@dec.ny.gov>> wrote 
> div.zm_-5476009931034783622_parse_-1648336103378843337 P { margin-top: 0; 
> margin-bottom: 0 }Gus,
> Some potential good news. I was able to contact NPS and they will try and get 
> to the area by Saturday morning to put up a symbolic fence around the nest.
> It leaves them vulnerable for the next few days...but hopefully they can get 
> the area marked off before anything happens.
> Jason
> Jason C. Smith |Biodiversity Ecologist
> New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
> 47-40 21st Street, Long Island City, NY 11101
> Phone: 718-482-4919 | Fax: 718-482-4502
> Email: jason.sm...@dec.ny.gov<mailto:jason.sm...@dec.ny.gov>
> "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we 
> created them" -Einstein
>
>
>
>
> From: Smith, Jason Y (DEC)
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 12:34 PM
> To: gusk...@zoho.com<mailto:gusk...@zoho.com> 
> mailto:gusk...@zoho.com>>
> Subject: Oystercatchers at Plumb Beach Gus,
> I'm a biologist with the NYDEC out of the Long Island City regional office. A 
> co-worker forwarded me your email about the Oystercatcher nest at Plumb Beach.
> While I am not familiar with this nest in 2021, I am very familiar with where 
> the Oystercatchers have tried to nest in the past on that beach. 
> Unfortunately, it has never ended well.
> Both the National Park Service and the NYC Parks & Recreation are responsible 
> for managing that property and it is generally managed as a recreational 
> access area and not as protected area for nesting shorebirds or waterbirds. 
> Plumb Beach primarily serves as a kayak/wind surfing launch, and a rest area 
> for vehicles travelling on the Belt Parkway. As you note, there is a lot of 
> recreational foot traffic through there. And folks with dogs usually take 
> them off their leash there to run. Which is prohibited, but largely goes 
> unenforced as there are no permanent staff there.
> The area just north of Plumb Beach, Marine Park does have an area that is 
> preserved for wildlife. Here is a link to the NYC Parks website for the 
> preserve: Forever Wild : NYC Parks (nycgovparks.org)Forever Wild : NYC 
> ParksMost of the Marine Park Preserve consists of salt marshes and uplands 
> that flank Gerritsen Creek, the westernmost freshwater inlet of Jamaica Bay. 
> Jamaica Bay is an 18,000-acre wetland estuary that provides a unique 
> environment for both wildlife preservation and urban recreation. Enclosed by 
> the ...www.nycgovparks.org
> This area is the reason why Plumb Beach is so attractive to Oystercatchers. 
> So, in a way it was the NPS and NYC Parks' way of finding a compromise for 
> the two land use issues in the area. If the Oystercatchers would only nest 
> across the channel(north of the marina and south of the bridge crossing the 
> channel between Plumb and Marine Park) from where you are likely seeing them 
> (as you go around the bend towards the wetland north of the beach) that would 
> eliminate the conflict. That area isn't currently suited obviously, otherwise 
> the Oystercatchers would nest there. But it could be set up to.
>
> The area where they are (likely) nesting is suited, if not for the high level 
> of recreational activity. Even without any dogs off their leash.
> I will however reach out to colleagues at the NPS and make sure they are 
> aware of the nest and ask if they can demark the area. Unfortunately, 
> American Oystercatcher are not protected under NYS law as a threatened, 
> endangered, or special concern speci

RE: Re:[nysbirds-l] Oystercatchers at Plumb Beach

[Joe Jannsen]

Yes—that was already arranged with NPS.

Thanks for also following up.

Joe

From: bounce-125669674-10871...@list.cornell.edu 
 On Behalf Of Gus Keri
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 3:33 PM
To: Smith, Jason Y (DEC) ; Birding alert, NYSBirds, 
Birding alert 
Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] Oystercatchers at Plumb Beach

Thank you Jason for immediate response and action.
I hope this nest will survive until the weekend.
Gus

 On Thu, 27 May 2021 14:01:31 -0400 Smith, Jason Y (DEC) 
mailto:jason.sm...@dec.ny.gov>> wrote 
> div.zm_-5476009931034783622_parse_-1648336103378843337 P { margin-top: 0; 
> margin-bottom: 0 }Gus,
> Some potential good news. I was able to contact NPS and they will try and get 
> to the area by Saturday morning to put up a symbolic fence around the nest.
> It leaves them vulnerable for the next few days...but hopefully they can get 
> the area marked off before anything happens.
> Jason
> Jason C. Smith |Biodiversity Ecologist
> New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
> 47-40 21st Street, Long Island City, NY 11101
> Phone: 718-482-4919 | Fax: 718-482-4502
> Email: jason.sm...@dec.ny.gov
> "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we 
> created them" -Einstein
>
>
>
>
> From: Smith, Jason Y (DEC)
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 12:34 PM
> To: gusk...@zoho.com 
> mailto:gusk...@zoho.com>>
> Subject: Oystercatchers at Plumb Beach Gus,
> I'm a biologist with the NYDEC out of the Long Island City regional office. A 
> co-worker forwarded me your email about the Oystercatcher nest at Plumb Beach.
> While I am not familiar with this nest in 2021, I am very familiar with where 
> the Oystercatchers have tried to nest in the past on that beach. 
> Unfortunately, it has never ended well.
> Both the National Park Service and the NYC Parks & Recreation are responsible 
> for managing that property and it is generally managed as a recreational 
> access area and not as protected area for nesting shorebirds or waterbirds. 
> Plumb Beach primarily serves as a kayak/wind surfing launch, and a rest area 
> for vehicles travelling on the Belt Parkway. As you note, there is a lot of 
> recreational foot traffic through there. And folks with dogs usually take 
> them off their leash there to run. Which is prohibited, but largely goes 
> unenforced as there are no permanent staff there.
> The area just north of Plumb Beach, Marine Park does have an area that is 
> preserved for wildlife. Here is a link to the NYC Parks website for the 
> preserve: Forever Wild : NYC Parks (nycgovparks.org)Forever Wild : NYC 
> ParksMost of the Marine Park Preserve consists of salt marshes and uplands 
> that flank Gerritsen Creek, the westernmost freshwater inlet of Jamaica Bay. 
> Jamaica Bay is an 18,000-acre wetland estuary that provides a unique 
> environment for both wildlife preservation and urban recreation. Enclosed by 
> the ...www.nycgovparks.org
> This area is the reason why Plumb Beach is so attractive to Oystercatchers. 
> So, in a way it was the NPS and NYC Parks' way of finding a compromise for 
> the two land use issues in the area. If the Oystercatchers would only nest 
> across the channel(north of the marina and south of the bridge crossing the 
> channel between Plumb and Marine Park) from where you are likely seeing them 
> (as you go around the bend towards the wetland north of the beach) that would 
> eliminate the conflict. That area isn't currently suited obviously, otherwise 
> the Oystercatchers would nest there. But it could be set up to.
>
> The area where they are (likely) nesting is suited, if not for the high level 
> of recreational activity. Even without any dogs off their leash.
> I will however reach out to colleagues at the NPS and make sure they are 
> aware of the nest and ask if they can demark the area. Unfortunately, 
> American Oystercatcher are not protected under NYS law as a threatened, 
> endangered, or special concern species. So, I cannot require them to take any 
> action. But they have tried to help Oystercatchers nesting in precarious 
> locations in the past, so there is hope.
> From a longer-term solution perspective, I will reach out to NYC Parks and 
> see if they can't provide some signs near the concessions/restroom area that 
> alert visitors to the potential for encountering beach nesting birds (and 
> migratory shorebird stopovers too...both NPS and Parks acknowledge the area 
> for important horseshoe crab spawning area that it is). And re-enforce the 
> dog leash law for the area. Again, I cannot require them to do so.
> To your point Gus, this area has seen a lot of nesting attempts by American 
> Oystercatchers over the last several years. It may be time to reconsider how 
> the area is viewed, and maybe a solution which allows for some areas to be 
> sheltered from recreational activities can be found in the future.
> I will try to keep you updated as to any 

RE: Re:[nysbirds-l] Oystercatchers at Plumb Beach

[Joe Jannsen]

Yes—that was already arranged with NPS.

Thanks for also following up.

Joe

From: bounce-125669674-10871...@list.cornell.edu 
 On Behalf Of Gus Keri
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 3:33 PM
To: Smith, Jason Y (DEC) ; Birding alert, NYSBirds, 
Birding alert 
Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] Oystercatchers at Plumb Beach

Thank you Jason for immediate response and action.
I hope this nest will survive until the weekend.
Gus

 On Thu, 27 May 2021 14:01:31 -0400 Smith, Jason Y (DEC) 
mailto:jason.sm...@dec.ny.gov>> wrote 
> div.zm_-5476009931034783622_parse_-1648336103378843337 P { margin-top: 0; 
> margin-bottom: 0 }Gus,
> Some potential good news. I was able to contact NPS and they will try and get 
> to the area by Saturday morning to put up a symbolic fence around the nest.
> It leaves them vulnerable for the next few days...but hopefully they can get 
> the area marked off before anything happens.
> Jason
> Jason C. Smith |Biodiversity Ecologist
> New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
> 47-40 21st Street, Long Island City, NY 11101
> Phone: 718-482-4919 | Fax: 718-482-4502
> Email: jason.sm...@dec.ny.gov
> "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we 
> created them" -Einstein
>
>
>
>
> From: Smith, Jason Y (DEC)
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 12:34 PM
> To: gusk...@zoho.com 
> mailto:gusk...@zoho.com>>
> Subject: Oystercatchers at Plumb Beach Gus,
> I'm a biologist with the NYDEC out of the Long Island City regional office. A 
> co-worker forwarded me your email about the Oystercatcher nest at Plumb Beach.
> While I am not familiar with this nest in 2021, I am very familiar with where 
> the Oystercatchers have tried to nest in the past on that beach. 
> Unfortunately, it has never ended well.
> Both the National Park Service and the NYC Parks & Recreation are responsible 
> for managing that property and it is generally managed as a recreational 
> access area and not as protected area for nesting shorebirds or waterbirds. 
> Plumb Beach primarily serves as a kayak/wind surfing launch, and a rest area 
> for vehicles travelling on the Belt Parkway. As you note, there is a lot of 
> recreational foot traffic through there. And folks with dogs usually take 
> them off their leash there to run. Which is prohibited, but largely goes 
> unenforced as there are no permanent staff there.
> The area just north of Plumb Beach, Marine Park does have an area that is 
> preserved for wildlife. Here is a link to the NYC Parks website for the 
> preserve: Forever Wild : NYC Parks (nycgovparks.org)Forever Wild : NYC 
> ParksMost of the Marine Park Preserve consists of salt marshes and uplands 
> that flank Gerritsen Creek, the westernmost freshwater inlet of Jamaica Bay. 
> Jamaica Bay is an 18,000-acre wetland estuary that provides a unique 
> environment for both wildlife preservation and urban recreation. Enclosed by 
> the ...www.nycgovparks.org
> This area is the reason why Plumb Beach is so attractive to Oystercatchers. 
> So, in a way it was the NPS and NYC Parks' way of finding a compromise for 
> the two land use issues in the area. If the Oystercatchers would only nest 
> across the channel(north of the marina and south of the bridge crossing the 
> channel between Plumb and Marine Park) from where you are likely seeing them 
> (as you go around the bend towards the wetland north of the beach) that would 
> eliminate the conflict. That area isn't currently suited obviously, otherwise 
> the Oystercatchers would nest there. But it could be set up to.
>
> The area where they are (likely) nesting is suited, if not for the high level 
> of recreational activity. Even without any dogs off their leash.
> I will however reach out to colleagues at the NPS and make sure they are 
> aware of the nest and ask if they can demark the area. Unfortunately, 
> American Oystercatcher are not protected under NYS law as a threatened, 
> endangered, or special concern species. So, I cannot require them to take any 
> action. But they have tried to help Oystercatchers nesting in precarious 
> locations in the past, so there is hope.
> From a longer-term solution perspective, I will reach out to NYC Parks and 
> see if they can't provide some signs near the concessions/restroom area that 
> alert visitors to the potential for encountering beach nesting birds (and 
> migratory shorebird stopovers too...both NPS and Parks acknowledge the area 
> for important horseshoe crab spawning area that it is). And re-enforce the 
> dog leash law for the area. Again, I cannot require them to do so.
> To your point Gus, this area has seen a lot of nesting attempts by American 
> Oystercatchers over the last several years. It may be time to reconsider how 
> the area is viewed, and maybe a solution which allows for some areas to be 
> sheltered from recreational activities can be found in the future.
> I will try to keep you updated as to any 

Re: [nysbirds-l] Oystercatchers at Plumb Beach

[Joe Jannsen]

Yes—that was already arranged with NPS.  Thanks for also following up.

Joe

On May 27, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Gus Keri  wrote:

 Thank you Jason for immediate response and action.
I hope this nest will survive until the weekend.
Gus

 On Thu, 27 May 2021 14:01:31 -0400 Smith, Jason Y (DEC) 
 wrote 
> div.zm_-5476009931034783622_parse_-1648336103378843337 P { margin-top: 0; 
> margin-bottom: 0 }Gus,
> Some potential good news. I was able to contact NPS and they will try and get 
> to the area by Saturday morning to put up a symbolic fence around the nest.
> It leaves them vulnerable for the next few days...but hopefully they can get 
> the area marked off before anything happens.
> Jason
> Jason C. Smith |Biodiversity Ecologist
> New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
> 47-40 21st Street, Long Island City, NY 11101
> Phone: 718-482-4919 | Fax: 718-482-4502
> Email: jason.sm...@dec.ny.gov
> "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we 
> created them" -Einstein
>
>
>
>
> From: Smith, Jason Y (DEC)
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 12:34 PM
> To: gusk...@zoho.com 
> Subject: Oystercatchers at Plumb Beach Gus,
> I'm a biologist with the NYDEC out of the Long Island City regional office. A 
> co-worker forwarded me your email about the Oystercatcher nest at Plumb Beach.
> While I am not familiar with this nest in 2021, I am very familiar with where 
> the Oystercatchers have tried to nest in the past on that beach. 
> Unfortunately, it has never ended well.
> Both the National Park Service and the NYC Parks & Recreation are responsible 
> for managing that property and it is generally managed as a recreational 
> access area and not as protected area for nesting shorebirds or waterbirds. 
> Plumb Beach primarily serves as a kayak/wind surfing launch, and a rest area 
> for vehicles travelling on the Belt Parkway. As you note, there is a lot of 
> recreational foot traffic through there. And folks with dogs usually take 
> them off their leash there to run. Which is prohibited, but largely goes 
> unenforced as there are no permanent staff there.
> The area just north of Plumb Beach, Marine Park does have an area that is 
> preserved for wildlife. Here is a link to the NYC Parks website for the 
> preserve: Forever Wild : NYC Parks (nycgovparks.org)Forever Wild : NYC 
> ParksMost of the Marine Park Preserve consists of salt marshes and uplands 
> that flank Gerritsen Creek, the westernmost freshwater inlet of Jamaica Bay. 
> Jamaica Bay is an 18,000-acre wetland estuary that provides a unique 
> environment for both wildlife preservation and urban recreation. Enclosed by 
> the ...www.nycgovparks.org
> This area is the reason why Plumb Beach is so attractive to Oystercatchers. 
> So, in a way it was the NPS and NYC Parks' way of finding a compromise for 
> the two land use issues in the area. If the Oystercatchers would only nest 
> across the channel(north of the marina and south of the bridge crossing the 
> channel between Plumb and Marine Park) from where you are likely seeing them 
> (as you go around the bend towards the wetland north of the beach) that would 
> eliminate the conflict. That area isn't currently suited obviously, otherwise 
> the Oystercatchers would nest there. But it could be set up to.
>
> The area where they are (likely) nesting is suited, if not for the high level 
> of recreational activity. Even without any dogs off their leash.
> I will however reach out to colleagues at the NPS and make sure they are 
> aware of the nest and ask if they can demark the area. Unfortunately, 
> American Oystercatcher are not protected under NYS law as a threatened, 
> endangered, or special concern species. So, I cannot require them to take any 
> action. But they have tried to help Oystercatchers nesting in precarious 
> locations in the past, so there is hope.
> From a longer-term solution perspective, I will reach out to NYC Parks and 
> see if they can't provide some signs near the concessions/restroom area that 
> alert visitors to the potential for encountering beach nesting birds (and 
> migratory shorebird stopovers too...both NPS and Parks acknowledge the area 
> for important horseshoe crab spawning area that it is). And re-enforce the 
> dog leash law for the area. Again, I cannot require them to do so.
> To your point Gus, this area has seen a lot of nesting attempts by American 
> Oystercatchers over the last several years. It may be time to reconsider how 
> the area is viewed, and maybe a solution which allows for some areas to be 
> sheltered from recreational activities can be found in the future.
> I will try to keep you updated as to any progress I am able to make with 
> protecting the current nest.
> Best,Jason
> Jason C. Smith |Biodiversity Ecologist
> New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
> 47-40 21st Street, Long Island City, NY 11101
> Phone: 718-482-4919 | Fax: 718-482-4502
> Email: jason.sm...@dec.ny.gov
> 

Re: [nysbirds-l] Oystercatchers at Plumb Beach

[Joe Jannsen]

Yes—that was already arranged with NPS.  Thanks for also following up.

Joe

On May 27, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Gus Keri  wrote:

 Thank you Jason for immediate response and action.
I hope this nest will survive until the weekend.
Gus

 On Thu, 27 May 2021 14:01:31 -0400 Smith, Jason Y (DEC) 
 wrote 
> div.zm_-5476009931034783622_parse_-1648336103378843337 P { margin-top: 0; 
> margin-bottom: 0 }Gus,
> Some potential good news. I was able to contact NPS and they will try and get 
> to the area by Saturday morning to put up a symbolic fence around the nest.
> It leaves them vulnerable for the next few days...but hopefully they can get 
> the area marked off before anything happens.
> Jason
> Jason C. Smith |Biodiversity Ecologist
> New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
> 47-40 21st Street, Long Island City, NY 11101
> Phone: 718-482-4919 | Fax: 718-482-4502
> Email: jason.sm...@dec.ny.gov
> "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we 
> created them" -Einstein
>
>
>
>
> From: Smith, Jason Y (DEC)
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 12:34 PM
> To: gusk...@zoho.com 
> Subject: Oystercatchers at Plumb Beach Gus,
> I'm a biologist with the NYDEC out of the Long Island City regional office. A 
> co-worker forwarded me your email about the Oystercatcher nest at Plumb Beach.
> While I am not familiar with this nest in 2021, I am very familiar with where 
> the Oystercatchers have tried to nest in the past on that beach. 
> Unfortunately, it has never ended well.
> Both the National Park Service and the NYC Parks & Recreation are responsible 
> for managing that property and it is generally managed as a recreational 
> access area and not as protected area for nesting shorebirds or waterbirds. 
> Plumb Beach primarily serves as a kayak/wind surfing launch, and a rest area 
> for vehicles travelling on the Belt Parkway. As you note, there is a lot of 
> recreational foot traffic through there. And folks with dogs usually take 
> them off their leash there to run. Which is prohibited, but largely goes 
> unenforced as there are no permanent staff there.
> The area just north of Plumb Beach, Marine Park does have an area that is 
> preserved for wildlife. Here is a link to the NYC Parks website for the 
> preserve: Forever Wild : NYC Parks (nycgovparks.org)Forever Wild : NYC 
> ParksMost of the Marine Park Preserve consists of salt marshes and uplands 
> that flank Gerritsen Creek, the westernmost freshwater inlet of Jamaica Bay. 
> Jamaica Bay is an 18,000-acre wetland estuary that provides a unique 
> environment for both wildlife preservation and urban recreation. Enclosed by 
> the ...www.nycgovparks.org
> This area is the reason why Plumb Beach is so attractive to Oystercatchers. 
> So, in a way it was the NPS and NYC Parks' way of finding a compromise for 
> the two land use issues in the area. If the Oystercatchers would only nest 
> across the channel(north of the marina and south of the bridge crossing the 
> channel between Plumb and Marine Park) from where you are likely seeing them 
> (as you go around the bend towards the wetland north of the beach) that would 
> eliminate the conflict. That area isn't currently suited obviously, otherwise 
> the Oystercatchers would nest there. But it could be set up to.
>
> The area where they are (likely) nesting is suited, if not for the high level 
> of recreational activity. Even without any dogs off their leash.
> I will however reach out to colleagues at the NPS and make sure they are 
> aware of the nest and ask if they can demark the area. Unfortunately, 
> American Oystercatcher are not protected under NYS law as a threatened, 
> endangered, or special concern species. So, I cannot require them to take any 
> action. But they have tried to help Oystercatchers nesting in precarious 
> locations in the past, so there is hope.
> From a longer-term solution perspective, I will reach out to NYC Parks and 
> see if they can't provide some signs near the concessions/restroom area that 
> alert visitors to the potential for encountering beach nesting birds (and 
> migratory shorebird stopovers too...both NPS and Parks acknowledge the area 
> for important horseshoe crab spawning area that it is). And re-enforce the 
> dog leash law for the area. Again, I cannot require them to do so.
> To your point Gus, this area has seen a lot of nesting attempts by American 
> Oystercatchers over the last several years. It may be time to reconsider how 
> the area is viewed, and maybe a solution which allows for some areas to be 
> sheltered from recreational activities can be found in the future.
> I will try to keep you updated as to any progress I am able to make with 
> protecting the current nest.
> Best,Jason
> Jason C. Smith |Biodiversity Ecologist
> New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
> 47-40 21st Street, Long Island City, NY 11101
> Phone: 718-482-4919 | Fax: 718-482-4502
> Email: jason.sm...@dec.ny.gov
> 

RE: [nysbirds-l] Oystercatcher nest at Plumb Beach

[Joe Jannsen]

Gus,

I forwarded this to NPS.  Hopefully they can get out there this year to help 
this pair.

Thanks.

Joe

From: bounce-125668354-10871...@list.cornell.edu 
 On Behalf Of Gus Keri
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 9:22 AM
To: Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert 
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Oystercatcher nest at Plumb Beach

Hi everyone,

I hesitated before I wrote this email because I was not sure if this poor 
creature can be helped. Last year, I wrote similar email but it didn't help. I 
am hoping this time, things will be different.

Last week, I found an Oystercatcher nest on Plumb beach with two eggs and the 
parent kept getting flushed by the many people and dogs that roam this beach. 
There was two eggs in the nest. I only mentioned this issue to few birders who 
were there at the time, but I didn't have high hope that this nest will survive 
this God-forsaken place.

Two days ago, I went there again and to my pleasant surprise, I found the nest 
still intact and there were three eggs instead of two. But again, the people 
and dogs kept flushing this poor Oystercatcher away from the nest every few 
minutes.

And while walking there, I noticed a man approaching the same area, not knowing 
there was a nest. I had to run to him and alert him to the presence of the 
nest, so he wouldn't step on the eggs accidently.

Last year, the park (or beach) authority promised to do something to protect 
the nest but they were late and the nest was destroyed in the following couple 
of days. I am sorry I don't remember the person who communicated with them then.

Can they do something to help this nest now?

Here is video I shot of the bird getting back to the nest and sitting on the 
eggs.
https://twitter.com/BirdBrklyn/status/1397725094907101186

Gus Keri


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RE: [nysbirds-l] Oystercatcher nest at Plumb Beach

[Joe Jannsen]

Gus,

I forwarded this to NPS.  Hopefully they can get out there this year to help 
this pair.

Thanks.

Joe

From: bounce-125668354-10871...@list.cornell.edu 
 On Behalf Of Gus Keri
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 9:22 AM
To: Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert 
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Oystercatcher nest at Plumb Beach

Hi everyone,

I hesitated before I wrote this email because I was not sure if this poor 
creature can be helped. Last year, I wrote similar email but it didn't help. I 
am hoping this time, things will be different.

Last week, I found an Oystercatcher nest on Plumb beach with two eggs and the 
parent kept getting flushed by the many people and dogs that roam this beach. 
There was two eggs in the nest. I only mentioned this issue to few birders who 
were there at the time, but I didn't have high hope that this nest will survive 
this God-forsaken place.

Two days ago, I went there again and to my pleasant surprise, I found the nest 
still intact and there were three eggs instead of two. But again, the people 
and dogs kept flushing this poor Oystercatcher away from the nest every few 
minutes.

And while walking there, I noticed a man approaching the same area, not knowing 
there was a nest. I had to run to him and alert him to the presence of the 
nest, so he wouldn't step on the eggs accidently.

Last year, the park (or beach) authority promised to do something to protect 
the nest but they were late and the nest was destroyed in the following couple 
of days. I am sorry I don't remember the person who communicated with them then.

Can they do something to help this nest now?

Here is video I shot of the bird getting back to the nest and sitting on the 
eggs.
https://twitter.com/BirdBrklyn/status/1397725094907101186

Gus Keri


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Re: [nysbirds-l] Wood Stork (yes) Suffolk County

[Joe Jannsen]

Wood stork currently being seen on Baycrest Avenue across the creek at the road 
curve before the end of the road.  Great views.

Joe

On May 11, 2021, at 2:28 PM, Karen Fung  wrote:

 Now (2:15pm) being viewed from Bishop Avenue, looking across the creek.



Karen Fung

Sent from my iPhone


> On May 10, 2021, at 1:04 PM, Karen Fung  wrote:
>
> Seen at the original location (feeding by the phrags behind the Casa Basso 
> Restaurant) 5 min ago, but is working its way west. It disappeared behind a 
> bend and is currently out of view.
>
> Karen Fung
> Junko Suzuki
> NYC
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>
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Wood Stork (yes) Suffolk County

[Joe Jannsen]

Wood stork currently being seen on Baycrest Avenue across the creek at the road 
curve before the end of the road.  Great views.

Joe

On May 11, 2021, at 2:28 PM, Karen Fung  wrote:

 Now (2:15pm) being viewed from Bishop Avenue, looking across the creek.



Karen Fung

Sent from my iPhone


> On May 10, 2021, at 1:04 PM, Karen Fung  wrote:
>
> Seen at the original location (feeding by the phrags behind the Casa Basso 
> Restaurant) 5 min ago, but is working its way west. It disappeared behind a 
> bend and is currently out of view.
>
> Karen Fung
> Junko Suzuki
> NYC
>
> 
>
>
>
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Oystercatcher nest in unprotected area

[Joe Jannsen]

Much larger conversation—let’s get the nest protected!

From: Adelia Honeywood 
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 10:27 AM
To: Joe Jannsen 
Cc: Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert 
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Oystercatcher nest in unprotected area

Hi Joe,
Thank you for bringing the NPS's attention to the nest. Do you have any idea 
how to get the NPS to reign in off-leash dogs at Plumb?

On Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 08:39:09 AM EDT, Joe Jannsen 
mailto:jjann...@tnc.org>> wrote:



NPS is aware and stated they will protect the nest.



Thanks.



Joe



From: TURNER mailto:redk...@optonline.net>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 5:41 PM
To: Gus Keri mailto:gusk...@zoho.com>>; Joe Jannsen 
mailto:jjann...@tnc.org>>
Cc: Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert 
mailto:nysbirds-l@cornell.edu>>
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Oystercatcher nest in unprotected area



Joe is influential and a good man.

> On May 19, 2020 at 4:45 PM Gus Keri 
> mailto:gusk...@zoho.com>> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks a lot, Joe. This is great.
> I didn't think it was possible.
>
>
> Sent using Zoho Mail
>
>
>  On Tue, 19 May 2020 16:36:34 -0400 Joe Jannsen 
> mailto:jjann...@tnc.org>> wrote 
> >
> > Gus,
> >
> > I reached out to a Gateway contact to see if they can get this nest 
> > protected.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > From: 
> > bounce-124641923-10871...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-124641923-10871...@list.cornell.edu>
> >  
> > mailto:bounce-124641923-10871...@list.cornell.edu>>On
> >  Behalf Of Gus Keri
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 3:47 PM
> > To: Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert 
> > mailto:nysbirds-l@cornell.edu>>
> > Subject: [nysbirds-l] Oystercatcher nest in unprotected area
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I know we are not supposed to reveal nesting locations but I think everyone 
> > who is going to visit Plumb beach should be aware of this one. I have never 
> > seen a nest in this place which is not protected and have many people and 
> > dogs roaming the beach.
> >
> > Today, I found an Oystercatcher nest in a very open area where birders walk 
> > sometimes. I know because I walked this area many time before, 
> > particularly, in search of Sparrows. And it is very easy for any one to 
> > step over the eggs accidently.
> >
> > The nest is located at the far east end, near the large wooden board. I 
> > posted few photos on my eBird list to make it easy to find the nest.
> > You can see them here: 
> > https://ebird.org/checklist/S69331372<https://ebird.org/checklist/S69331372>
> >
> > Unfortunately, nothing can be done about off-leash dogs which is a common 
> > problem in this place. Although, for some reason, I have not run into any 
> > dogs during my last two visits. I don't know if the social distancing 
> > secondary to the Coronavirus has any thing to do with.
> >
> > I have a reason to believe that social distancing and stay-at-home policy 
> > have allowed for the Oystercatchers to build a nest on this beach.
> >
> > So, please, If you are planning to go to Plumb beach, watch your steps.
> >
> > Gus Keri
> >
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Oystercatcher nest in unprotected area

[Joe Jannsen]

Much larger conversation—let’s get the nest protected!

From: Adelia Honeywood 
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 10:27 AM
To: Joe Jannsen 
Cc: Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert 
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Oystercatcher nest in unprotected area

Hi Joe,
Thank you for bringing the NPS's attention to the nest. Do you have any idea 
how to get the NPS to reign in off-leash dogs at Plumb?

On Wednesday, May 20, 2020, 08:39:09 AM EDT, Joe Jannsen 
mailto:jjann...@tnc.org>> wrote:



NPS is aware and stated they will protect the nest.



Thanks.



Joe



From: TURNER mailto:redk...@optonline.net>>
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 5:41 PM
To: Gus Keri mailto:gusk...@zoho.com>>; Joe Jannsen 
mailto:jjann...@tnc.org>>
Cc: Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert 
mailto:nysbirds-l@cornell.edu>>
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Oystercatcher nest in unprotected area



Joe is influential and a good man.

> On May 19, 2020 at 4:45 PM Gus Keri 
> mailto:gusk...@zoho.com>> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks a lot, Joe. This is great.
> I didn't think it was possible.
>
>
> Sent using Zoho Mail
>
>
>  On Tue, 19 May 2020 16:36:34 -0400 Joe Jannsen 
> mailto:jjann...@tnc.org>> wrote 
> >
> > Gus,
> >
> > I reached out to a Gateway contact to see if they can get this nest 
> > protected.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > From: 
> > bounce-124641923-10871...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-124641923-10871...@list.cornell.edu>
> >  
> > mailto:bounce-124641923-10871...@list.cornell.edu>>On
> >  Behalf Of Gus Keri
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 3:47 PM
> > To: Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert 
> > mailto:nysbirds-l@cornell.edu>>
> > Subject: [nysbirds-l] Oystercatcher nest in unprotected area
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I know we are not supposed to reveal nesting locations but I think everyone 
> > who is going to visit Plumb beach should be aware of this one. I have never 
> > seen a nest in this place which is not protected and have many people and 
> > dogs roaming the beach.
> >
> > Today, I found an Oystercatcher nest in a very open area where birders walk 
> > sometimes. I know because I walked this area many time before, 
> > particularly, in search of Sparrows. And it is very easy for any one to 
> > step over the eggs accidently.
> >
> > The nest is located at the far east end, near the large wooden board. I 
> > posted few photos on my eBird list to make it easy to find the nest.
> > You can see them here: 
> > https://ebird.org/checklist/S69331372<https://ebird.org/checklist/S69331372>
> >
> > Unfortunately, nothing can be done about off-leash dogs which is a common 
> > problem in this place. Although, for some reason, I have not run into any 
> > dogs during my last two visits. I don't know if the social distancing 
> > secondary to the Coronavirus has any thing to do with.
> >
> > I have a reason to believe that social distancing and stay-at-home policy 
> > have allowed for the Oystercatchers to build a nest on this beach.
> >
> > So, please, If you are planning to go to Plumb beach, watch your steps.
> >
> > Gus Keri
> >
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> > 3) 
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Oystercatcher nest in unprotected area

[Joe Jannsen]

NPS is aware and stated they will protect the nest.

Thanks.

Joe

From: TURNER 
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 5:41 PM
To: Gus Keri ; Joe Jannsen 
Cc: Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert 
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Oystercatcher nest in unprotected area

Joe is influential and a good man.

> On May 19, 2020 at 4:45 PM Gus Keri 
> mailto:gusk...@zoho.com>> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks a lot, Joe. This is great.
> I didn't think it was possible.
>
>
> Sent using Zoho Mail
>
>
> ---- On Tue, 19 May 2020 16:36:34 -0400 Joe Jannsen 
> mailto:jjann...@tnc.org>> wrote 
> >
> > Gus,
> >
> > I reached out to a Gateway contact to see if they can get this nest 
> > protected.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > From: 
> > bounce-124641923-10871...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-124641923-10871...@list.cornell.edu>
> >  
> > mailto:bounce-124641923-10871...@list.cornell.edu>>On
> >  Behalf Of Gus Keri
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 3:47 PM
> > To: Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert 
> > mailto:nysbirds-l@cornell.edu>>
> > Subject: [nysbirds-l] Oystercatcher nest in unprotected area
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I know we are not supposed to reveal nesting locations but I think everyone 
> > who is going to visit Plumb beach should be aware of this one. I have never 
> > seen a nest in this place which is not protected and have many people and 
> > dogs roaming the beach.
> >
> > Today, I found an Oystercatcher nest in a very open area where birders walk 
> > sometimes. I know because I walked this area many time before, 
> > particularly, in search of Sparrows. And it is very easy for any one to 
> > step over the eggs accidently.
> >
> > The nest is located at the far east end, near the large wooden board. I 
> > posted few photos on my eBird list to make it easy to find the nest.
> > You can see them here: 
> > https://ebird.org/checklist/S69331372<https://ebird.org/checklist/S69331372>
> >
> > Unfortunately, nothing can be done about off-leash dogs which is a common 
> > problem in this place. Although, for some reason, I have not run into any 
> > dogs during my last two visits. I don't know if the social distancing 
> > secondary to the Coronavirus has any thing to do with.
> >
> > I have a reason to believe that social distancing and stay-at-home policy 
> > have allowed for the Oystercatchers to build a nest on this beach.
> >
> > So, please, If you are planning to go to Plumb beach, watch your steps.
> >
> > Gus Keri
> >
> > --
> >
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> > 2) 
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> > 3) 
> > http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01<http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01>
> >
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Oystercatcher nest in unprotected area

[Joe Jannsen]

NPS is aware and stated they will protect the nest.

Thanks.

Joe

From: TURNER 
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 5:41 PM
To: Gus Keri ; Joe Jannsen 
Cc: Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert 
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Oystercatcher nest in unprotected area

Joe is influential and a good man.

> On May 19, 2020 at 4:45 PM Gus Keri 
> mailto:gusk...@zoho.com>> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks a lot, Joe. This is great.
> I didn't think it was possible.
>
>
> Sent using Zoho Mail
>
>
> ---- On Tue, 19 May 2020 16:36:34 -0400 Joe Jannsen 
> mailto:jjann...@tnc.org>> wrote 
> >
> > Gus,
> >
> > I reached out to a Gateway contact to see if they can get this nest 
> > protected.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > From: 
> > bounce-124641923-10871...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-124641923-10871...@list.cornell.edu>
> >  
> > mailto:bounce-124641923-10871...@list.cornell.edu>>On
> >  Behalf Of Gus Keri
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 3:47 PM
> > To: Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert 
> > mailto:nysbirds-l@cornell.edu>>
> > Subject: [nysbirds-l] Oystercatcher nest in unprotected area
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I know we are not supposed to reveal nesting locations but I think everyone 
> > who is going to visit Plumb beach should be aware of this one. I have never 
> > seen a nest in this place which is not protected and have many people and 
> > dogs roaming the beach.
> >
> > Today, I found an Oystercatcher nest in a very open area where birders walk 
> > sometimes. I know because I walked this area many time before, 
> > particularly, in search of Sparrows. And it is very easy for any one to 
> > step over the eggs accidently.
> >
> > The nest is located at the far east end, near the large wooden board. I 
> > posted few photos on my eBird list to make it easy to find the nest.
> > You can see them here: 
> > https://ebird.org/checklist/S69331372<https://ebird.org/checklist/S69331372>
> >
> > Unfortunately, nothing can be done about off-leash dogs which is a common 
> > problem in this place. Although, for some reason, I have not run into any 
> > dogs during my last two visits. I don't know if the social distancing 
> > secondary to the Coronavirus has any thing to do with.
> >
> > I have a reason to believe that social distancing and stay-at-home policy 
> > have allowed for the Oystercatchers to build a nest on this beach.
> >
> > So, please, If you are planning to go to Plumb beach, watch your steps.
> >
> > Gus Keri
> >
> > --
> >
> > NYSbirds-L List Info:
> > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm<http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm>
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> > 2) 
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> > 3) 
> > http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01<http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01>
> >
> > Please submit your observations to eBird:
> > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/<http://ebird.org/content/ebird>
> >
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Oystercatcher nest in unprotected area

[Joe Jannsen]

Gus,

I reached out to a Gateway contact to see if they can get this nest protected.

Thanks.

Joe

From: bounce-124641923-10871...@list.cornell.edu 
 On Behalf Of Gus Keri
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 3:47 PM
To: Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert 
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Oystercatcher nest in unprotected area

Hi everyone,

I know we are not supposed to reveal nesting locations but I think everyone who 
is going to visit Plumb beach should be aware of this one. I have never seen a 
nest in this place which is not protected and have many people and dogs roaming 
the beach.

Today, I found an Oystercatcher nest in a very open area where birders walk 
sometimes. I know because I walked this area many time before, particularly, in 
search of Sparrows. And it is very easy for any one to step over the eggs 
accidently.

The nest is located at the far east end, near the large wooden board. I posted 
few photos on my eBird list to make it easy to find the nest.
You can see them here: 
https://ebird.org/checklist/S69331372

Unfortunately, nothing can be done about off-leash dogs which is a common 
problem in this place. Although, for some reason, I have not run into any dogs 
during my last two visits. I don't know if the social distancing secondary to 
the Coronavirus has any thing to do with.

I have a reason to believe that social distancing and stay-at-home policy have 
allowed for the Oystercatchers to build a nest on this beach.

So, please, If you are planning to go to Plumb beach, watch your steps.

Gus Keri

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Oystercatcher nest in unprotected area

[Joe Jannsen]

Gus,

I reached out to a Gateway contact to see if they can get this nest protected.

Thanks.

Joe

From: bounce-124641923-10871...@list.cornell.edu 
 On Behalf Of Gus Keri
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 3:47 PM
To: Birding alert, NYSBirds, Birding alert 
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Oystercatcher nest in unprotected area

Hi everyone,

I know we are not supposed to reveal nesting locations but I think everyone who 
is going to visit Plumb beach should be aware of this one. I have never seen a 
nest in this place which is not protected and have many people and dogs roaming 
the beach.

Today, I found an Oystercatcher nest in a very open area where birders walk 
sometimes. I know because I walked this area many time before, particularly, in 
search of Sparrows. And it is very easy for any one to step over the eggs 
accidently.

The nest is located at the far east end, near the large wooden board. I posted 
few photos on my eBird list to make it easy to find the nest.
You can see them here: 
https://ebird.org/checklist/S69331372

Unfortunately, nothing can be done about off-leash dogs which is a common 
problem in this place. Although, for some reason, I have not run into any dogs 
during my last two visits. I don't know if the social distancing secondary to 
the Coronavirus has any thing to do with.

I have a reason to believe that social distancing and stay-at-home policy have 
allowed for the Oystercatchers to build a nest on this beach.

So, please, If you are planning to go to Plumb beach, watch your steps.

Gus Keri

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Northern Wheatear continues @ Heckscher State Park LI

[Joe Jannsen]

Northern Wheatear continues at the same location, alternating between the grass 
and perching on the posts in the median.  Great looks.

Joe

On Oct 30, 2018, at 1:59 PM, Andrew Baksh 
mailto:birdingd...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I had crippling views of the continuing and very cooperative Northern Wheatear 
at Heckscher State Park this AM.

The bird is comfortably feeding in the medians near the cottages. For those of 
you not familiar with the área (I have had a few inquires), here are GPS 
coordinates that will get you close to the área. 40.703919, -73.14928

Please be aware of construction taking place near the site as well as use 
common sense sorting out parking.

As a side note, I returned to Queens to find my feeders attended by several 
male Purple Finches. Perhaps, I’ll have my second record of Evening Grosbeaks 
in my backyard soon enough...

Cheers,


"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

風　Swift as the wind
林　Quiet as the forest
火　Conquer like the fire
山　Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu  The Art of 
War

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Northern Wheatear continues @ Heckscher State Park LI

[Joe Jannsen]

Northern Wheatear continues at the same location, alternating between the grass 
and perching on the posts in the median.  Great looks.

Joe

On Oct 30, 2018, at 1:59 PM, Andrew Baksh 
mailto:birdingd...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I had crippling views of the continuing and very cooperative Northern Wheatear 
at Heckscher State Park this AM.

The bird is comfortably feeding in the medians near the cottages. For those of 
you not familiar with the área (I have had a few inquires), here are GPS 
coordinates that will get you close to the área. 40.703919, -73.14928

Please be aware of construction taking place near the site as well as use 
common sense sorting out parking.

As a side note, I returned to Queens to find my feeders attended by several 
male Purple Finches. Perhaps, I’ll have my second record of Evening Grosbeaks 
in my backyard soon enough...

Cheers,


"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of 
others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ Frederick 
Douglass

風　Swift as the wind
林　Quiet as the forest
火　Conquer like the fire
山　Steady as the mountain
Sun Tzu  The Art of 
War

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(") _ (")
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Wood Sandpiper Timber Point Golf Course now Suffolk Co

[Joe Jannsen]

Good views at the puddle until the Wood Sandpiper flew with several other birds 
towards the marsh.

Joe

On Apr 17, 2018, at 6:22 AM, Mike 
> wrote:

Previously reported Wood Sandpiper at Timber Point, Suffolk is present now, 
Tuesday AM

Mike Cooper

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 16, 2018, at 9:04 PM, Shaibal Mitra 
> > wrote:
>
> The Wood Sandpiper continued in the rain pools just east of the Timber Point 
> entrance road (and just south of the spur road to the East Marina) until it 
> was too dark to see.
>
> The discovery and identification of this mega rarity was a team effort. I was 
> seawatching at Robert Moses SP when Patricia called me to report an 
> unfamiliar shorebird. Her puzzlement was my cue to race over to join her, 
> along with my seawatching companions Brent Bomkamp and Taylor Sturm. We 
> pulled up, predictably, just after the birds had flushed. While I spoke with 
> Pat and reviewed some distant photos, Brent and Taylor set out to relocate 
> the flock. As I came to the conclusion that it was likely a very rare Wood 
> Sandpiper, they re-found the bird. We re-joined them and exhilaration ensued!
>
> The place where we were watching it was not a good, publicly accessible, 
> location, but fortunately the bird soon flew (calling "chip-chip-chip" right 
> over us) and returned to the near-ideal place described above, where it 
> remained as admirers arrived until it was too dark to see.
>
> I'll put some photos up here:
>
> https://flic.kr/p/24SZZUa
>
> Shai Mitra
> Bay Shore
> 
> From: 
> bounce-122477957-11143...@list.cornell.edu
>  
> [bounce-122477957-11143...@list.cornell.edu]
>  on behalf of Patricia Lindsay 
> [pjlind...@optonline.net]
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 6:49 PM
> To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Wood Sandpiper Timber Point Golf Course now Suffolk Co
>
> Not in marsh, on puddled fairway
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Wood Sandpiper Timber Point Golf Course now Suffolk Co

[Joe Jannsen]

Good views at the puddle until the Wood Sandpiper flew with several other birds 
towards the marsh.

Joe

On Apr 17, 2018, at 6:22 AM, Mike 
mailto:mike...@optonline.net>> wrote:

Previously reported Wood Sandpiper at Timber Point, Suffolk is present now, 
Tuesday AM

Mike Cooper

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 16, 2018, at 9:04 PM, Shaibal Mitra 
> mailto:shaibal.mi...@csi.cuny.edu>> wrote:
>
> The Wood Sandpiper continued in the rain pools just east of the Timber Point 
> entrance road (and just south of the spur road to the East Marina) until it 
> was too dark to see.
>
> The discovery and identification of this mega rarity was a team effort. I was 
> seawatching at Robert Moses SP when Patricia called me to report an 
> unfamiliar shorebird. Her puzzlement was my cue to race over to join her, 
> along with my seawatching companions Brent Bomkamp and Taylor Sturm. We 
> pulled up, predictably, just after the birds had flushed. While I spoke with 
> Pat and reviewed some distant photos, Brent and Taylor set out to relocate 
> the flock. As I came to the conclusion that it was likely a very rare Wood 
> Sandpiper, they re-found the bird. We re-joined them and exhilaration ensued!
>
> The place where we were watching it was not a good, publicly accessible, 
> location, but fortunately the bird soon flew (calling "chip-chip-chip" right 
> over us) and returned to the near-ideal place described above, where it 
> remained as admirers arrived until it was too dark to see.
>
> I'll put some photos up here:
>
> https://flic.kr/p/24SZZUa
>
> Shai Mitra
> Bay Shore
> 
> From: 
> bounce-122477957-11143...@list.cornell.edu
>  
> [bounce-122477957-11143...@list.cornell.edu]
>  on behalf of Patricia Lindsay 
> [pjlind...@optonline.net]
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 6:49 PM
> To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Wood Sandpiper Timber Point Golf Course now Suffolk Co
>
> Not in marsh, on puddled fairway
>
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RE: RE:[nysbirds-l] New Hawk Flyway Discovery

[Joe Jannsen]

Steve,

Just an FYI, I have a 4-egg killdeer nest as well at a site on the North Shore 
of Long Island.

Joe

From: bounce-122463300-10871...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-122463300-10871...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Walter
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 7:47 PM
To: nysbird...@list.cornell.edu
Subject: RE:[nysbirds-l] New Hawk Flyway Discovery

I continue to monitor this. There haven't been days anywhere near what the 
first day was like. But then I don't think there have been especially optimal 
flight conditions, and that seems to be reflected at other sites along the 
northeast seaboard. But there are a few hawks every day. And amazingly to me, 
that includes Turkey Vultures regularly passing through northeastern Queens. I 
did not see that coming. Now I wish I had started before March 31. The only 
other species to have been observed on every day of coverage is Osprey. Other 
surprises have been 6 Bald Eagles this week, and today a Broad-winged Hawk. 
That's not one that I have pegged for much of a presence on Long Island. It's 
still a few days early for appreciable numbers of Broad-wings. But now that 
I've gotten one, why not hold out hope that there could be a bunch to come 
through here?

The previously mentioned copulating Killdeer are now the nesting Killdeer. They 
picked out a spot about 50-60 feet from the spot I picked to watch from. I keep 
my distance from them and they seem to be fine with that distance. On an 
occasion when both were away, I checked the nest and saw 4 eggs. I'm kind of 
surprised at such an early date. Other shorebirds appearing have been Greater 
Yellowlegs and Wilson's Snipe - the snipe not only as flyovers, but landing in 
the wet meadow right behind the watch site.

Elsewhere in the neighborhood, it's April 11 and the Alley Pond Restoration 
Pond still has the Redhead pair, the Ring-necked Duck, and the Red-necked 
Grebe. They might be old news, but I'm still keeping tabs on the grebe in hopes 
of getting it in breeding plumage. While it hasn't changed much, 7 remaining 
Horned Grebes on Little Neck Bay have gotten colorful. The bay still has a 
Red-throated Loon or two. Oddly, one individual came into Alley Creek and 
hauled out on a mud flat at low tide.

Steve Walter
Bayside, NY

From: Steve Walter [mailto:swalte...@verizon.net]
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 5:25 PM
To: nysbird...@list.cornell.edu
Subject: New Hawk Flyway Discovery

I think that subject line is more interesting than the usual. Well, the flyway 
is not really new. I'm sure birds have been there before. And I can't say the 
discovery is out of the blue. About 20 years ago, one day (an April 19, as I 
recall), I detected a small hawk flight (about 70 birds of various species) 
along Little Neck Bay in northeastern Queens. I decided that this year I would 
finally put some time into seeing if there's something viable here. The spot I 
chose is a mile or so south of where I observed that time - by Alley Pond 
Environmental Center, but on the north side of Northern Blvd. Wide open skies 
for viewing here.  And for today, at least, the results were intriguing and not 
bad.

I started at 11:00. Now I wish I had started earlier. But going in, it seemed a 
preposterous idea to plan a day around spring hawk watching in Queens. And with 
a forecast for winds to lighten in mid-day, it didn't profile as an ideal hawk 
migration day. Well anyway, 15 minutes into it, a group of 23 Turkey Vultures 
came streaming by high. This already was more TV's than I'd ever seen in one 
day on Long Island. A few minutes later, it was a group of 31. This went on for 
about another hour, with a final tally of 186 Turkey Vultures (don't laugh 
Braddock Bay and Derby Hill - that's big stuff here). The surprising thing is 
that most were heading east, except for one group of 13 that were seen going 
north on the west side of Little Neck Bay). Looking at a map leads one to think 
that a north or northeast heading would allow for a short water crossing before 
Long Island Sound widens, and could actually provide somewhat of a 
concentration point toward the mainland. This may prove true yet, particularly 
for other species. The single Harrier today and a couple of Ospreys went that 
way. I'm not sure where the two Kestrels went or if the Cooper's Hawk was not a 
local. An adult Bald Eagle flew the wrong way over Little Neck Bay, so probably 
a local (still sounds strange to say that in Queens).

The spot I chose is in a meadow and by Alley Creek and Little Neck Bay. So this 
provided some other birds to be enjoyed while waiting for hawks. Notable for 
here or late March were copulating Killdeer, Great Egret, Barn Swallow, Palm 
Warbler, Eastern Meadowlark, and a number of Boat-tailed Grackles. The most 
interesting bird was one that flew low past me, giving a call I didn't 
recognize. When I got on it flying away, I saw large wing patches and red 
emanating from the head. I 

RE: RE:[nysbirds-l] New Hawk Flyway Discovery

[Joe Jannsen]

Steve,

Just an FYI, I have a 4-egg killdeer nest as well at a site on the North Shore 
of Long Island.

Joe

From: bounce-122463300-10871...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-122463300-10871...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Walter
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 7:47 PM
To: nysbird...@list.cornell.edu
Subject: RE:[nysbirds-l] New Hawk Flyway Discovery

I continue to monitor this. There haven't been days anywhere near what the 
first day was like. But then I don't think there have been especially optimal 
flight conditions, and that seems to be reflected at other sites along the 
northeast seaboard. But there are a few hawks every day. And amazingly to me, 
that includes Turkey Vultures regularly passing through northeastern Queens. I 
did not see that coming. Now I wish I had started before March 31. The only 
other species to have been observed on every day of coverage is Osprey. Other 
surprises have been 6 Bald Eagles this week, and today a Broad-winged Hawk. 
That's not one that I have pegged for much of a presence on Long Island. It's 
still a few days early for appreciable numbers of Broad-wings. But now that 
I've gotten one, why not hold out hope that there could be a bunch to come 
through here?

The previously mentioned copulating Killdeer are now the nesting Killdeer. They 
picked out a spot about 50-60 feet from the spot I picked to watch from. I keep 
my distance from them and they seem to be fine with that distance. On an 
occasion when both were away, I checked the nest and saw 4 eggs. I'm kind of 
surprised at such an early date. Other shorebirds appearing have been Greater 
Yellowlegs and Wilson's Snipe - the snipe not only as flyovers, but landing in 
the wet meadow right behind the watch site.

Elsewhere in the neighborhood, it's April 11 and the Alley Pond Restoration 
Pond still has the Redhead pair, the Ring-necked Duck, and the Red-necked 
Grebe. They might be old news, but I'm still keeping tabs on the grebe in hopes 
of getting it in breeding plumage. While it hasn't changed much, 7 remaining 
Horned Grebes on Little Neck Bay have gotten colorful. The bay still has a 
Red-throated Loon or two. Oddly, one individual came into Alley Creek and 
hauled out on a mud flat at low tide.

Steve Walter
Bayside, NY

From: Steve Walter [mailto:swalte...@verizon.net]
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 5:25 PM
To: nysbird...@list.cornell.edu
Subject: New Hawk Flyway Discovery

I think that subject line is more interesting than the usual. Well, the flyway 
is not really new. I'm sure birds have been there before. And I can't say the 
discovery is out of the blue. About 20 years ago, one day (an April 19, as I 
recall), I detected a small hawk flight (about 70 birds of various species) 
along Little Neck Bay in northeastern Queens. I decided that this year I would 
finally put some time into seeing if there's something viable here. The spot I 
chose is a mile or so south of where I observed that time - by Alley Pond 
Environmental Center, but on the north side of Northern Blvd. Wide open skies 
for viewing here.  And for today, at least, the results were intriguing and not 
bad.

I started at 11:00. Now I wish I had started earlier. But going in, it seemed a 
preposterous idea to plan a day around spring hawk watching in Queens. And with 
a forecast for winds to lighten in mid-day, it didn't profile as an ideal hawk 
migration day. Well anyway, 15 minutes into it, a group of 23 Turkey Vultures 
came streaming by high. This already was more TV's than I'd ever seen in one 
day on Long Island. A few minutes later, it was a group of 31. This went on for 
about another hour, with a final tally of 186 Turkey Vultures (don't laugh 
Braddock Bay and Derby Hill - that's big stuff here). The surprising thing is 
that most were heading east, except for one group of 13 that were seen going 
north on the west side of Little Neck Bay). Looking at a map leads one to think 
that a north or northeast heading would allow for a short water crossing before 
Long Island Sound widens, and could actually provide somewhat of a 
concentration point toward the mainland. This may prove true yet, particularly 
for other species. The single Harrier today and a couple of Ospreys went that 
way. I'm not sure where the two Kestrels went or if the Cooper's Hawk was not a 
local. An adult Bald Eagle flew the wrong way over Little Neck Bay, so probably 
a local (still sounds strange to say that in Queens).

The spot I chose is in a meadow and by Alley Creek and Little Neck Bay. So this 
provided some other birds to be enjoyed while waiting for hawks. Notable for 
here or late March were copulating Killdeer, Great Egret, Barn Swallow, Palm 
Warbler, Eastern Meadowlark, and a number of Boat-tailed Grackles. The most 
interesting bird was one that flew low past me, giving a call I didn't 
recognize. When I got on it flying away, I saw large wing patches and red 
emanating from the head. I 

Re:[nysbirds-l] Wilson's Snipe

[Joe Jannsen]

?Wilson's snipe continued today on the small "island" in the middle of the 
preserve along with green-winged teal.


From: bounce-121245200-10871...@list.cornell.edu 
 on behalf of GLENN MULLEN 

Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 1:30 PM
To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Wilson's Snipe



Presently on east side of stream at Swan Lake Preserve. Patchogue.

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Re:[nysbirds-l] Wilson's Snipe

[Joe Jannsen]

?Wilson's snipe continued today on the small "island" in the middle of the 
preserve along with green-winged teal.


From: bounce-121245200-10871...@list.cornell.edu 
 on behalf of GLENN MULLEN 

Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 1:30 PM
To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Wilson's Snipe



Presently on east side of stream at Swan Lake Preserve. Patchogue.

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Harlequin duck Shinnecock inlet

[Joe Jannsen]

I also unsuccessfully sought the Swan Lake tufted duck this afternoon along 
with a couple of other birders.

Joe

On Feb 4, 2017, at 6:19 PM, Bruce Horwith 
> wrote:

After unsuccessfully searching for the tufted duck (Swan Lake) and the 
pink-footed goose (Elda Lake), we drove back east on Dune Rd, seeing a half 
dozen or more northern harriers, and the still-present Harlequin duck at the 
inlet. And then we were treated to an immature bald eagle flying over the 
Shinnecock Canal.

Bruce Horwith
16 Salt Marsh Path
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Harlequin duck Shinnecock inlet

[Joe Jannsen]

I also unsuccessfully sought the Swan Lake tufted duck this afternoon along 
with a couple of other birders.

Joe

On Feb 4, 2017, at 6:19 PM, Bruce Horwith 
mailto:bruce.horw...@gmail.com>> wrote:

After unsuccessfully searching for the tufted duck (Swan Lake) and the 
pink-footed goose (Elda Lake), we drove back east on Dune Rd, seeing a half 
dozen or more northern harriers, and the still-present Harlequin duck at the 
inlet. And then we were treated to an immature bald eagle flying over the 
Shinnecock Canal.

Bruce Horwith
16 Salt Marsh Path
East Hampton, NY 11937
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Re: Re:[nysbirds-l] Juvenile Glaucous Gull, Atlantic Point Apartments, N Bellport

[Joe Jannsen]

?One of two Glaucous Gulls observed on pond on south side of Alexan Blvd. just 
west of Wisteria Circle.  Flew east lazily towards pond to the east but did not 
relocate.  Gulls sp. are flying back & forth across the road, between ponds.


From: bounce-121129025-10871...@list.cornell.edu 
 on behalf of Keith Cashman 

Sent: Friday, January 6, 2017 3:54 PM
To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] Juvenile Glaucous Gull, Atlantic Point Apartments, N 
Bellport

Directions to ApartmentComplex. It is located between Woodside Av (CR99) and 
Horseblock Rd (CR16). Easiest way to get there from Sunrise Hwy is Exit 57N. 
North on CR16 past Brookhaven Landfill.  The entrance to the Atlantic Point 
Apartments is the 1st traffic light after Landfill, Alexan Blv. If coming from 
Expressway (I495) Exit 65 and proceed southbound on CR16 for approximately 2 
miles. Right turn on Alexan Blv into complex.

Can also get to Complex off of Woodside Ave (CR99). 2nd traffic light west of 
CR16  then Right turn on Sawgrass Dr then right turn on Alexan Blv.

Complex has a gate but is open during the days, at least on weekdays. Not as 
large as you think can be walked. Parking allowed on Sawgrass Dr if gate is 
down. Parking not allowed on Alexan Blv but plenty of parking surrounding the 
buildings.

Both Birds on Alexan Blv. 1st bird on south side of Alexan Blv (heading towards 
CR16) at pond just west of Foxglove Circle. Pond is located next to a green 
dumpster. That bird has been there 2 days.

2nd bird on north side of Alexan Blv across from Wisteria Circle. The Gulls 
seem to prefer the three pond in center of complex and also sit on Apartment 
roofs.

People are friendly but might get frightened by Scopes and Binoculars so just 
be polite and let them know what you are doing. It might actually help the 
birds because the Gulls do appear to be quite a nuisance.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 6, 2017, at 14:53, Keith Cashman 
> wrote:

The previously reported Glaucous Gull is still present as of 2:30 PM today 
01-06-17 at the Atlantic Point Apartment complex. Has been joined by another 
Pale Juvenile Glaucous Gull on a different decorative pond. Today large flocks 
of both Fish and Common Crows. Estimates of at least 100 Crows.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 5, 2017, at 16:24, Keith Cashman 
> wrote:

After reading M McBrien's earlier post, while at work I decided to check out 
the Apartment Complex across the street from the Brookhaven Landfill. At 14:45 
hours I found a  Pale Juvenile Glaucous Gull sleeping along side roadway.  Link 
to photo below.

http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S33465575
Keith Cashman

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Re: Re:[nysbirds-l] Juvenile Glaucous Gull, Atlantic Point Apartments, N Bellport

[Joe Jannsen]

?One of two Glaucous Gulls observed on pond on south side of Alexan Blvd. just 
west of Wisteria Circle.  Flew east lazily towards pond to the east but did not 
relocate.  Gulls sp. are flying back & forth across the road, between ponds.


From: bounce-121129025-10871...@list.cornell.edu 
 on behalf of Keith Cashman 

Sent: Friday, January 6, 2017 3:54 PM
To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] Juvenile Glaucous Gull, Atlantic Point Apartments, N 
Bellport

Directions to ApartmentComplex. It is located between Woodside Av (CR99) and 
Horseblock Rd (CR16). Easiest way to get there from Sunrise Hwy is Exit 57N. 
North on CR16 past Brookhaven Landfill.  The entrance to the Atlantic Point 
Apartments is the 1st traffic light after Landfill, Alexan Blv. If coming from 
Expressway (I495) Exit 65 and proceed southbound on CR16 for approximately 2 
miles. Right turn on Alexan Blv into complex.

Can also get to Complex off of Woodside Ave (CR99). 2nd traffic light west of 
CR16  then Right turn on Sawgrass Dr then right turn on Alexan Blv.

Complex has a gate but is open during the days, at least on weekdays. Not as 
large as you think can be walked. Parking allowed on Sawgrass Dr if gate is 
down. Parking not allowed on Alexan Blv but plenty of parking surrounding the 
buildings.

Both Birds on Alexan Blv. 1st bird on south side of Alexan Blv (heading towards 
CR16) at pond just west of Foxglove Circle. Pond is located next to a green 
dumpster. That bird has been there 2 days.

2nd bird on north side of Alexan Blv across from Wisteria Circle. The Gulls 
seem to prefer the three pond in center of complex and also sit on Apartment 
roofs.

People are friendly but might get frightened by Scopes and Binoculars so just 
be polite and let them know what you are doing. It might actually help the 
birds because the Gulls do appear to be quite a nuisance.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 6, 2017, at 14:53, Keith Cashman 
mailto:gos...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

The previously reported Glaucous Gull is still present as of 2:30 PM today 
01-06-17 at the Atlantic Point Apartment complex. Has been joined by another 
Pale Juvenile Glaucous Gull on a different decorative pond. Today large flocks 
of both Fish and Common Crows. Estimates of at least 100 Crows.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 5, 2017, at 16:24, Keith Cashman 
mailto:gos...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

After reading M McBrien's earlier post, while at work I decided to check out 
the Apartment Complex across the street from the Brookhaven Landfill. At 14:45 
hours I found a  Pale Juvenile Glaucous Gull sleeping along side roadway.  Link 
to photo below.

http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist/S33465575
Keith Cashman

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Currently being seen at Robert Moses State Park circle.

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RE:[nysbirds-l] Upland Sandpiper Friday Update?

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Jane,

My suggestion is to travel eastbound on Ocean Parkway in the right hand lane.  
Once you pass Oak Beach (old OBI location) slow down (I put my flashers on) and 
scan the grassy median in the center of the road.  The bird is pretty 
conspicuous if there.  Once you spot it, pull over to the right onto the grassy 
shoulder and observe from your vehicle.  As others have mentioned, the bird is 
precariously close to fast-moving vehicles, so I wouldn’t approach any closer 
and I definitely would not attempt to observe from the median.  Across the road 
provides close enough views that are safe for you and the bird.

Good luck!

Joe

From: Jane Ross [mailto:janefr...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 7:41 AM
To: Joe Jannsen
Cc: redk...@optonline.net; NYSBIRDS-L
Subject: Upland Sandpiper Friday Update?

Hoping to find the upland sandpiper this morning so would love to see any 
updates as well as a few directions as to how to spot him ( in the median near 
Oak Beach???). Many thanks in advance, Jane

Sent from my iPhone





On Apr 13, 2016, at 5:03 PM, Joe Jannsen 
<jjann...@tnc.org<mailto:jjann...@tnc.org>> wrote:
I haven't seen any reports today, so I am happy to report the Upland Sandpiper 
continues just east of Oak Beach near pole #483.  Viewed from the eastbound 
shoulder.

Joe

On Apr 11, 2016, at 6:45 PM, 
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RE:[nysbirds-l] Upland Sandpiper Friday Update?

[Joe Jannsen]

Jane,

My suggestion is to travel eastbound on Ocean Parkway in the right hand lane.  
Once you pass Oak Beach (old OBI location) slow down (I put my flashers on) and 
scan the grassy median in the center of the road.  The bird is pretty 
conspicuous if there.  Once you spot it, pull over to the right onto the grassy 
shoulder and observe from your vehicle.  As others have mentioned, the bird is 
precariously close to fast-moving vehicles, so I wouldn’t approach any closer 
and I definitely would not attempt to observe from the median.  Across the road 
provides close enough views that are safe for you and the bird.

Good luck!

Joe

From: Jane Ross [mailto:janefr...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 7:41 AM
To: Joe Jannsen
Cc: redk...@optonline.net; NYSBIRDS-L
Subject: Upland Sandpiper Friday Update?

Hoping to find the upland sandpiper this morning so would love to see any 
updates as well as a few directions as to how to spot him ( in the median near 
Oak Beach???). Many thanks in advance, Jane

Sent from my iPhone





On Apr 13, 2016, at 5:03 PM, Joe Jannsen 
mailto:jjann...@tnc.org>> wrote:
I haven't seen any reports today, so I am happy to report the Upland Sandpiper 
continues just east of Oak Beach near pole #483.  Viewed from the eastbound 
shoulder.

Joe

On Apr 11, 2016, at 6:45 PM, 
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mailto:redk...@optonline.net>> wrote:
As of 5:30 p.m. today the shorebird named in honor of the famous American 
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the edge of the road as cars whizzed by before walking across the turnaround 
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Upland Sandpiper Continues

[Joe Jannsen]

I received the following message last night at 9:16 PM:

"Sorry, your message was not sent out to 'nysbirds-l' because the message is 
identical to a message you sent to 'nysbirds-l' recently.  If you believe you 
are receiving this message in error, resend your message with slightly 
different content."

An odd message, considering I rarely post to the listserve, and I most 
definitely did not post an identical or another other message related to the 
Upland Sandpiper.  So, as suggested, I am reposting my report from yesterday 
evening, in case folks did not receive it.  Apologies if you are seeing this 
information too late for it to be useful to you, but I did attempt to post my 
observation in real time.

Thanks.

Joe

From: Joe Jannsen
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 5:03 PM
To: redk...@optonline.net; NYSBIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Upland Sandpiper Continues

I haven't seen any reports today, so I am happy to report the Upland Sandpiper 
continues just east of Oak Beach near pole #483.  Viewed from the eastbound 
shoulder.

Joe

On Apr 11, 2016, at 6:45 PM, 
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Upland Sandpiper Continues

[Joe Jannsen]

I received the following message last night at 9:16 PM:

"Sorry, your message was not sent out to 'nysbirds-l' because the message is 
identical to a message you sent to 'nysbirds-l' recently.  If you believe you 
are receiving this message in error, resend your message with slightly 
different content."

An odd message, considering I rarely post to the listserve, and I most 
definitely did not post an identical or another other message related to the 
Upland Sandpiper.  So, as suggested, I am reposting my report from yesterday 
evening, in case folks did not receive it.  Apologies if you are seeing this 
information too late for it to be useful to you, but I did attempt to post my 
observation in real time.

Thanks.

Joe

From: Joe Jannsen
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 5:03 PM
To: redk...@optonline.net; NYSBIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Upland Sandpiper Continues

I haven't seen any reports today, so I am happy to report the Upland Sandpiper 
continues just east of Oak Beach near pole #483.  Viewed from the eastbound 
shoulder.

Joe

On Apr 11, 2016, at 6:45 PM, 
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mailto:redk...@optonline.net>> wrote:
As of 5:30 p.m. today the shorebird named in honor of the famous American 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Upland Sandpiper Continues

[Joe Jannsen]

I haven't seen any reports today, so I am happy to report the Upland Sandpiper 
continues just east of Oak Beach near pole #483.  Viewed from the eastbound 
shoulder.

Joe

On Apr 11, 2016, at 6:45 PM, 
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> wrote:

As of 5:30 p.m. today the shorebird named in honor of the famous American 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Upland Sandpiper Continues

[Joe Jannsen]

I haven't seen any reports today, so I am happy to report the Upland Sandpiper 
continues just east of Oak Beach near pole #483.  Viewed from the eastbound 
shoulder.

Joe

On Apr 11, 2016, at 6:45 PM, 
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As of 5:30 p.m. today the shorebird named in honor of the famous American 
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Phalarope continues at Jones beach

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0700:  Red Phalarope continues in the westernmost pond between the Jones Beach 
Nature Center and West End II.

Regarding driving directions, it depends where you are coming from.  You will 
need to take one of the major north-south roads; Meadowbrook Parkway, Wantagh 
Parkway, or Robert Moses Causeway.  Once you are on the barrier island/Ocean 
Parkway, follow the signs for West End beaches and/or the Jones Beach Nature 
Center.  Given the most recent location of the bird, I would suggest parking in 
the southeast corner of the West End II parking lot and proceeded east along 
the beaten path.  If you come to the park after 8:00 AM during the week or 
after 6:00 AM on weekends, expect to pay the parking fee.

Good luck!

Joe

From: bounce-119459177-10871...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-119459177-10871...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Jane Ross
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 7:24 AM
To: Pat Aitken
Cc: NYS Bird List
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Phalarope continues at Jones beach

Could anyone suggest driving / parking directions? Many thanks in advance


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She was still present at 6:30.  When I left, she was on the more western pond.
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Phalarope continues at Jones beach

[Joe Jannsen]

0700:  Red Phalarope continues in the westernmost pond between the Jones Beach 
Nature Center and West End II.

Regarding driving directions, it depends where you are coming from.  You will 
need to take one of the major north-south roads; Meadowbrook Parkway, Wantagh 
Parkway, or Robert Moses Causeway.  Once you are on the barrier island/Ocean 
Parkway, follow the signs for West End beaches and/or the Jones Beach Nature 
Center.  Given the most recent location of the bird, I would suggest parking in 
the southeast corner of the West End II parking lot and proceeded east along 
the beaten path.  If you come to the park after 8:00 AM during the week or 
after 6:00 AM on weekends, expect to pay the parking fee.

Good luck!

Joe

From: bounce-119459177-10871...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-119459177-10871...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Jane Ross
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 7:24 AM
To: Pat Aitken
Cc: NYS Bird List
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Phalarope continues at Jones beach

Could anyone suggest driving / parking directions? Many thanks in advance


Sent from my iPhone





On Jul 16, 2015, at 7:07 PM, Pat Aitken 
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She was still present at 6:30.  When I left, she was on the more western pond.
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RE: [nysbirds-l] RFI Cassins Kingbird in FB field

[Joe Jannsen]

This afternoon I also took a shot at the Cassin's kingbird.  Several passes 
through the community garden and around the picnic area only produced the 
previously mentioned sparrows and a male cardinal at one of the feeders.

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[mailto:bounce-118680836-10871...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of matt klein
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 1:16 PM
To: Arie Gilbert
Cc: nysbIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] RFI Cassins Kingbird in FB field

I was there from about 11:30 to 12:15 and didn't see him. Did have some tree 
sparrows but otherwise nothing of note in the gardens. 

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> any updated sighting info on the Cassin's Kingbird at Floyd Bennett Field 
> would be appreciated
> 
> Arie Gilbert
> North Babylon, NY
> 
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RE: [nysbirds-l] RFI Cassins Kingbird in FB field

[Joe Jannsen]

This afternoon I also took a shot at the Cassin's kingbird.  Several passes 
through the community garden and around the picnic area only produced the 
previously mentioned sparrows and a male cardinal at one of the feeders.

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I was there from about 11:30 to 12:15 and didn't see him. Did have some tree 
sparrows but otherwise nothing of note in the gardens. 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Common Gallinule Continues at Patchogue Lake (Suffolk Co.)

[Joe Jannsen]

2:30 PM:  Common Gallinule continues in same location along eastern shore of 
Patchogue Lake.  Best views from end of E. 2nd Street.

Joe

On Oct 13, 2014, at 11:53 AM, "Ken Feustel" 
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The previously reported Common Gallinule continued at Patchogue Lake this 
morning, as viewed from East 3rd Street, and was joined by a molting male 
Eurasian Wigeon among the many American Wigeon. Also present were Wood Duck, 
Ring-necked Duck, Ruddy Duck, Gadwall and eight Pied-billed Grebes.

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Common Gallinule Continues at Patchogue Lake (Suffolk Co.)

[Joe Jannsen]

2:30 PM:  Common Gallinule continues in same location along eastern shore of 
Patchogue Lake.  Best views from end of E. 2nd Street.

Joe

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RE: [nysbirds-l] DEC's Mute Swan management plan

[Joe Jannsen]

It is ambitious, but feasible as demonstrated by Maryland:

"Maryland has been most aggressive to date, adopting a plan (with strong public 
support) that calls for direct culling of swans to the lowest possible number. 
By 2010, they had reduced their population to approximately 200 birds from 
nearly 4,000 birds in 1999 (Maryland DNR 2011)."

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This seems like a very ambitious (read: challenging) endeavor given the large 
numbers of Mute Swans that we now have in NYS, especially in coastal areas were 
they occur just about everywhere (fresh and brackish habitats). This is 
compounded by the fact that neighboring states and provinces also have large 
numbers of birds, which are likely to quickly repopulate areas that are 
cleared. Honestly I think they are planning to close the barn door after the 
swan has left but as Paul Sweet notes there are legitimate reasons for concern 
on behalf of native flora and fauna.
Does anyone know if other state/provinces are planning similar projects? A 
concerted effort across the northeast would seem a minimal requirement for 
long-term success.
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RE: [nysbirds-l] DEC's Mute Swan management plan

[Joe Jannsen]

It is ambitious, but feasible as demonstrated by Maryland:

Maryland has been most aggressive to date, adopting a plan (with strong public 
support) that calls for direct culling of swans to the lowest possible number. 
By 2010, they had reduced their population to approximately 200 birds from 
nearly 4,000 birds in 1999 (Maryland DNR 2011).

From: bounce-111944395-10871...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-111944395-10871...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Angus Wilson
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 6:16 PM
To: NYSBIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] DEC's Mute Swan management plan

This seems like a very ambitious (read: challenging) endeavor given the large 
numbers of Mute Swans that we now have in NYS, especially in coastal areas were 
they occur just about everywhere (fresh and brackish habitats). This is 
compounded by the fact that neighboring states and provinces also have large 
numbers of birds, which are likely to quickly repopulate areas that are 
cleared. Honestly I think they are planning to close the barn door after the 
swan has left but as Paul Sweet notes there are legitimate reasons for concern 
on behalf of native flora and fauna.
Does anyone know if other state/provinces are planning similar projects? A 
concerted effort across the northeast would seem a minimal requirement for 
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[nysbirds-l] Black Guillemot Shinnecock Inlet

[Joe Jannsen]

The guillemot continues at Shinnecock Inlet.  Bird was in the inlet along the 
eastern jetty, then flew across the inlet, settling amongst the scoters just to 
the west of the western jetty.

Good luck if you go.

Joe



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[nysbirds-l] Black Guillemot Shinnecock Inlet

[Joe Jannsen]

The guillemot continues at Shinnecock Inlet.  Bird was in the inlet along the 
eastern jetty, then flew across the inlet, settling amongst the scoters just to 
the west of the western jetty.

Good luck if you go.

Joe



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[nysbirds-l] Tricolored Heron- Dune Rd - No

[Joe Jannsen]

I arrived shortly after 4:00 PM and met Eileen and Mike at the north end of 
Triton Lane.  Unfortunately, the tricolored heron had just disappeared towards 
the west around the spit of land it had been previously observed on.  A slow 
drive west with an eye towards the bay between Triton Lane and Docker's did not 
turn up the bird.

Joe

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[mailto:bounce-95042464-10871...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Eileen Schwinn
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 3:53 PM
To: NY Rare birds
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Tricolored Heron- Dune Rd - Yes

Currently being seen from the end of Triton La, East Quogue, looking west at 
the furthest spit of land into the bay, the Tricolored Heron, which was first 
reported yesterday by Andy Murphy.
Patience is needed.
Eileen Schwinn
Mike Higgiston

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[nysbirds-l] Tricolored Heron- Dune Rd - No

[Joe Jannsen]

I arrived shortly after 4:00 PM and met Eileen and Mike at the north end of 
Triton Lane.  Unfortunately, the tricolored heron had just disappeared towards 
the west around the spit of land it had been previously observed on.  A slow 
drive west with an eye towards the bay between Triton Lane and Docker's did not 
turn up the bird.

Joe

-Original Message-
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[mailto:bounce-95042464-10871...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Eileen Schwinn
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 3:53 PM
To: NY Rare birds
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Tricolored Heron- Dune Rd - Yes

Currently being seen from the end of Triton La, East Quogue, looking west at 
the furthest spit of land into the bay, the Tricolored Heron, which was first 
reported yesterday by Andy Murphy.
Patience is needed.
Eileen Schwinn
Mike Higgiston

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: Important on Putnam Trail - comment period deadline coming up.

[Joe Jannsen]

From:  NYDEC
By: NYC Parks Dept.

Project description requiring DEC permits listed below in this e-mail chain.

Joe

On May 4, 2013, at 10:10 AM, "Elizabeth D Poole" 
mailto:acupres...@aol.com>> wrote:

"...all projects requiring a permit..."
What permit is being sought, from whom and by whom?



-Original Message-
From: Joe Jannsen mailto:jjann...@tnc.org>>
To: Elizabeth D Poole mailto:acupres...@aol.com>>
Cc: birdingdude mailto:birdingd...@gmail.com>>; 
nysbirds-l mailto:nysbirds-l@cornell.edu>>; ebirdsnyc 
mailto:ebirds...@yahoogroups.com>>
Sent: Sat, May 4, 2013 9:50 am
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: Important on Putnam Trail - comment period 
deadline coming up.

Elizabeth,

I can't answer your questions regarding the merits of the project, but as a 
state agency, the DEC has regulatory jurisdiction over all projects requiring a 
permit regardless of who's property the activity is occurring on; state, 
municipal, or private.

Joe

On May 4, 2013, at 12:26 AM, "Elizabeth D Poole" 
mailto:acupres...@aol.com>> wrote:

Is the Putnam Trail State-owned or City-owned? The part in question seems to be 
entirely within Van Cortlandt Park. I'm curious to know why DEC even has 
jurisdiction within a City park.

You have not explained why it is preferable to keep this old railroad bed, 
disused for nearly sixty years, in its present state instead of making it 
available and hospitable to many who do not otherwise get out into the woods. 
The trail is largely paved already from the City line well into Putnam County.



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From: Andrew Baksh mailto:birdingd...@gmail.com>>
To: nysbirds-l mailto:nysbirds-l@cornell.edu>>
Cc: Nyc ebirds mailto:ebirds...@yahoogroups.com>>
Sent: Fri, May 3, 2013 6:14 pm
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: Important on Putnam Trail - comment period deadline 
coming up.

To all birders, naturalists and photographers.  Please see the e-mail below and 
submit your opposition to the paving of the Putnam Nature Trail into NYSDEC 
before May 17th.  I thank all of you who have stepped forward to lend your 
support.

Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device!

Andrew Baksh
www.birdingdude.blogspot.com<http://www.birdingdude.blogspot.com>

Begin forwarded message:

From: Suzanne Corber mailto:scor...@optonline.net>>
Date: May 3, 2013, 12:10:24 PM EDT
To: Suzanne Corber mailto:scor...@optonline.net>>
Subject: Important on Putnam Trail - comment period deadline coming up.

We have found out today that the NYSDEC is taking comments on paving the Putnam 
Trail.  The comment period ends May 17th.  We're asking people to send letters 
AND emails to the below addresses.  Express why you do not support paving and 
why you believe a permit should not be granted.  The permit is for the 
following:

Project Description:
The applicant proposes to convert an existing abandon rail corridor into a 
multi-use greenway. The proposed work includes removal of old rail ties, paving 
of the existing rail ballast with a 10 foot wide asphalt path, reconstruction 
of drainage infrastructure, removal of invasive species, addition of landscape 
plantings, restoration of historic elements and selective removal of the chain 
link fence. The project site from the City line to Van Cortlandt Park South in 
Van Cortlandt Park Along the Putnam Rail Corridor.

These are the addresses.  Again we're recommending both letters and emails.

Harold J Dickey
NYSDEC Region 2 Headquarters
47-40 21st St
Long Island City, NY 11101
(718)482-4997
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Thank you for the letters/emails on this important matter !!

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: Important on Putnam Trail - comment period deadline coming up.

[Joe Jannsen]

Elizabeth,

I can't answer your questions regarding the merits of the project, but as a 
state agency, the DEC has regulatory jurisdiction over all projects requiring a 
permit regardless of who's property the activity is occurring on; state, 
municipal, or private.

Joe

On May 4, 2013, at 12:26 AM, "Elizabeth D Poole" 
mailto:acupres...@aol.com>> wrote:

Is the Putnam Trail State-owned or City-owned? The part in question seems to be 
entirely within Van Cortlandt Park. I'm curious to know why DEC even has 
jurisdiction within a City park.

You have not explained why it is preferable to keep this old railroad bed, 
disused for nearly sixty years, in its present state instead of making it 
available and hospitable to many who do not otherwise get out into the woods. 
The trail is largely paved already from the City line well into Putnam County.



-Original Message-
From: Andrew Baksh mailto:birdingd...@gmail.com>>
To: nysbirds-l mailto:nysbirds-l@cornell.edu>>
Cc: Nyc ebirds mailto:ebirds...@yahoogroups.com>>
Sent: Fri, May 3, 2013 6:14 pm
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: Important on Putnam Trail - comment period deadline 
coming up.

To all birders, naturalists and photographers.  Please see the e-mail below and 
submit your opposition to the paving of the Putnam Nature Trail into NYSDEC 
before May 17th.  I thank all of you who have stepped forward to lend your 
support.

Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device!

Andrew Baksh
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Begin forwarded message:

From: Suzanne Corber mailto:scor...@optonline.net>>
Date: May 3, 2013, 12:10:24 PM EDT
To: Suzanne Corber mailto:scor...@optonline.net>>
Subject: Important on Putnam Trail - comment period deadline coming up.

We have found out today that the NYSDEC is taking comments on paving the Putnam 
Trail.  The comment period ends May 17th.  We're asking people to send letters 
AND emails to the below addresses.  Express why you do not support paving and 
why you believe a permit should not be granted.  The permit is for the 
following:

Project Description:
The applicant proposes to convert an existing abandon rail corridor into a 
multi-use greenway. The proposed work includes removal of old rail ties, paving 
of the existing rail ballast with a 10 foot wide asphalt path, reconstruction 
of drainage infrastructure, removal of invasive species, addition of landscape 
plantings, restoration of historic elements and selective removal of the chain 
link fence. The project site from the City line to Van Cortlandt Park South in 
Van Cortlandt Park Along the Putnam Rail Corridor.

These are the addresses.  Again we're recommending both letters and emails.

Harold J Dickey
NYSDEC Region 2 Headquarters
47-40 21st St
Long Island City, NY 11101
(718)482-4997
r2...@gw.dec.state.ny.us

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: Important on Putnam Trail - comment period deadline coming up.

[Joe Jannsen]

Elizabeth,

I can't answer your questions regarding the merits of the project, but as a 
state agency, the DEC has regulatory jurisdiction over all projects requiring a 
permit regardless of who's property the activity is occurring on; state, 
municipal, or private.

Joe

On May 4, 2013, at 12:26 AM, Elizabeth D Poole 
acupres...@aol.commailto:acupres...@aol.com wrote:

Is the Putnam Trail State-owned or City-owned? The part in question seems to be 
entirely within Van Cortlandt Park. I'm curious to know why DEC even has 
jurisdiction within a City park.

You have not explained why it is preferable to keep this old railroad bed, 
disused for nearly sixty years, in its present state instead of making it 
available and hospitable to many who do not otherwise get out into the woods. 
The trail is largely paved already from the City line well into Putnam County.



-Original Message-
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To: nysbirds-l nysbirds-l@cornell.edumailto:nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
Cc: Nyc ebirds ebirds...@yahoogroups.commailto:ebirds...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, May 3, 2013 6:14 pm
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: Important on Putnam Trail - comment period deadline 
coming up.

To all birders, naturalists and photographers.  Please see the e-mail below and 
submit your opposition to the paving of the Putnam Nature Trail into NYSDEC 
before May 17th.  I thank all of you who have stepped forward to lend your 
support.

Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device!

Andrew Baksh
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Begin forwarded message:

From: Suzanne Corber scor...@optonline.netmailto:scor...@optonline.net
Date: May 3, 2013, 12:10:24 PM EDT
To: Suzanne Corber scor...@optonline.netmailto:scor...@optonline.net
Subject: Important on Putnam Trail - comment period deadline coming up.

We have found out today that the NYSDEC is taking comments on paving the Putnam 
Trail.  The comment period ends May 17th.  We're asking people to send letters 
AND emails to the below addresses.  Express why you do not support paving and 
why you believe a permit should not be granted.  The permit is for the 
following:

Project Description:
The applicant proposes to convert an existing abandon rail corridor into a 
multi-use greenway. The proposed work includes removal of old rail ties, paving 
of the existing rail ballast with a 10 foot wide asphalt path, reconstruction 
of drainage infrastructure, removal of invasive species, addition of landscape 
plantings, restoration of historic elements and selective removal of the chain 
link fence. The project site from the City line to Van Cortlandt Park South in 
Van Cortlandt Park Along the Putnam Rail Corridor.

These are the addresses.  Again we're recommending both letters and emails.

Harold J Dickey
NYSDEC Region 2 Headquarters
47-40 21st St
Long Island City, NY 11101
(718)482-4997
r2...@gw.dec.state.ny.usmailto:r2...@gw.dec.state.ny.us

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: Important on Putnam Trail - comment period deadline coming up.

[Joe Jannsen]

From:  NYDEC
By: NYC Parks Dept.

Project description requiring DEC permits listed below in this e-mail chain.

Joe

On May 4, 2013, at 10:10 AM, Elizabeth D Poole 
acupres...@aol.commailto:acupres...@aol.com wrote:

...all projects requiring a permit...
What permit is being sought, from whom and by whom?



-Original Message-
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To: Elizabeth D Poole acupres...@aol.commailto:acupres...@aol.com
Cc: birdingdude birdingd...@gmail.commailto:birdingd...@gmail.com; 
nysbirds-l nysbirds-l@cornell.edumailto:nysbirds-l@cornell.edu; ebirdsnyc 
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Sent: Sat, May 4, 2013 9:50 am
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: Important on Putnam Trail - comment period 
deadline coming up.

Elizabeth,

I can't answer your questions regarding the merits of the project, but as a 
state agency, the DEC has regulatory jurisdiction over all projects requiring a 
permit regardless of who's property the activity is occurring on; state, 
municipal, or private.

Joe

On May 4, 2013, at 12:26 AM, Elizabeth D Poole 
acupres...@aol.commailto:acupres...@aol.com wrote:

Is the Putnam Trail State-owned or City-owned? The part in question seems to be 
entirely within Van Cortlandt Park. I'm curious to know why DEC even has 
jurisdiction within a City park.

You have not explained why it is preferable to keep this old railroad bed, 
disused for nearly sixty years, in its present state instead of making it 
available and hospitable to many who do not otherwise get out into the woods. 
The trail is largely paved already from the City line well into Putnam County.



-Original Message-
From: Andrew Baksh birdingd...@gmail.commailto:birdingd...@gmail.com
To: nysbirds-l nysbirds-l@cornell.edumailto:nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
Cc: Nyc ebirds ebirds...@yahoogroups.commailto:ebirds...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, May 3, 2013 6:14 pm
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: Important on Putnam Trail - comment period deadline 
coming up.

To all birders, naturalists and photographers.  Please see the e-mail below and 
submit your opposition to the paving of the Putnam Nature Trail into NYSDEC 
before May 17th.  I thank all of you who have stepped forward to lend your 
support.

Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device!

Andrew Baksh
www.birdingdude.blogspot.comhttp://www.birdingdude.blogspot.com

Begin forwarded message:

From: Suzanne Corber scor...@optonline.netmailto:scor...@optonline.net
Date: May 3, 2013, 12:10:24 PM EDT
To: Suzanne Corber scor...@optonline.netmailto:scor...@optonline.net
Subject: Important on Putnam Trail - comment period deadline coming up.

We have found out today that the NYSDEC is taking comments on paving the Putnam 
Trail.  The comment period ends May 17th.  We're asking people to send letters 
AND emails to the below addresses.  Express why you do not support paving and 
why you believe a permit should not be granted.  The permit is for the 
following:

Project Description:
The applicant proposes to convert an existing abandon rail corridor into a 
multi-use greenway. The proposed work includes removal of old rail ties, paving 
of the existing rail ballast with a 10 foot wide asphalt path, reconstruction 
of drainage infrastructure, removal of invasive species, addition of landscape 
plantings, restoration of historic elements and selective removal of the chain 
link fence. The project site from the City line to Van Cortlandt Park South in 
Van Cortlandt Park Along the Putnam Rail Corridor.

These are the addresses.  Again we're recommending both letters and emails.

Harold J Dickey
NYSDEC Region 2 Headquarters
47-40 21st St
Long Island City, NY 11101
(718)482-4997
r2...@gw.dec.state.ny.usmailto:r2...@gw.dec.state.ny.us

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Re: [nysbirds-l] RN Phalarope- Hampton Bays/Dune Rd

[Joe Jannsen]

RN Phalarope continues in the area described below, feeding along the rocks 
behind (west of the motor home).

Good luck if you go.

Joe

On Apr 24, 2013, at 11:35 AM, "Eileen Schwinn"  wrote:

> To expand on John Gluth's refinding of the RN Phalarope, it is currently in 
> the water, 30 yards from shore, just west of the Viking Pride commercial 
> fishing boat, which is docked at the western side of the Southampton Town -  
> Shinnecock Commercial Dock - (west of Sudays and west of Shinnecock Fish 
> Dock, Inc.)  Walk near the parked, Gulfstream motor home, for best views.
> The bird was still there when I left at 11:30.
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Re: [nysbirds-l] RN Phalarope- Hampton Bays/Dune Rd

[Joe Jannsen]

RN Phalarope continues in the area described below, feeding along the rocks 
behind (west of the motor home).

Good luck if you go.

Joe

On Apr 24, 2013, at 11:35 AM, Eileen Schwinn beach...@optonline.net wrote:

 To expand on John Gluth's refinding of the RN Phalarope, it is currently in 
 the water, 30 yards from shore, just west of the Viking Pride commercial 
 fishing boat, which is docked at the western side of the Southampton Town -  
 Shinnecock Commercial Dock - (west of Sudays and west of Shinnecock Fish 
 Dock, Inc.)  Walk near the parked, Gulfstream motor home, for best views.
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Re: [nysbirds-l] RUFF/DUNLIN AT EAST MARINA TIMBER POINT

[Joe Jannsen]

6:00 PM: Along with Cesar Castillo and Johnna Vullo, standing at the end of the 
dock by the Great River Fire Rescue boat, looking directly across the water, we 
had great views of the two ruff along the edge of the marsh.

Good luck if you go.

Joe

On Apr 15, 2013, at 4:53 PM, 
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ALONG WITH THE  M. McBRIEN RUFF(S) AN EARLY WAVE OF DUNLIN APPEARED,SOME IN 
EARLY BREEDING PLUMAGE.
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Re: [nysbirds-l] RUFF/DUNLIN AT EAST MARINA TIMBER POINT

[Joe Jannsen]

6:00 PM: Along with Cesar Castillo and Johnna Vullo, standing at the end of the 
dock by the Great River Fire Rescue boat, looking directly across the water, we 
had great views of the two ruff along the edge of the marsh.

Good luck if you go.

Joe

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[nysbirds-l] Red-necked Grebe: Captree Boat Basin--yes

[Joe Jannsen]

Red-necked Grebe observed sleeping/drifting behind Yankee III charter boat.

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[nysbirds-l] Red-necked Grebe: Captree Boat Basin--yes

[Joe Jannsen]

Red-necked Grebe observed sleeping/drifting behind Yankee III charter boat.

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Re: [nysbirds-l] White Stork in Medford, NY (Suffolk)

[Joe Jannsen]

I have visited the Holtsville Ecology Site multiple times over the years and 
seem to recall a resident stork at one time, but I can't say with certainty.  
It is worth a follow-up to see if they missing such a bird.

I will keep my eyes open as the location of the sighting and the Holtsville 
facility are both within 5-10 minutes from my residence.

Thanks.

Joe

On Feb 27, 2013, at 6:54 PM, "Derek Rogers"  wrote:

> All,
> 
> I received a pix message on my phone at about 5:45 this evening from a 
> friend, Ray Widergren, seeking some ID help on a bird. I nearly dropped my 
> phone when I viewed a very obvious WHITE STORK. Celeste Rovner, a non-birder, 
> got home from work this evening to see this bird perched directly on her roof 
> top. She managed to snap a photo, which is here:
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/39025168@N07/
> 
> The bird sat contently, perched on one leg, for some 5-10 minutes and flew 
> off. Celeste lives just north of Patchogue-Medford High School. It is unclear 
> as to the direction the bird flew. Celeste did not notice any bands on either 
> leg but also wasn't specifically searching. 
> 
> While this bird is almost certainly an escape, its fun to fantasize that this 
> known, long-range migrant might be lost on the wrong side of the ocean. 
> Regardless of its origins, it would certainly be a neat bird to see on Long 
> Island, or on our continent for that matter.
> 
> I will keep the list informed if I receive any news or updates. The nearest 
> zoo that I can think of is the Holtsville Ecology Park & Zoo. Only 2.5 linear 
> miles from where the stork was photographed. I have never visited this site 
> and have no idea what types of animals are at this facility. I tried reaching 
> out to them this evening but it seems the facility is closed for the day.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Derek Rogers
> Sayville
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[nysbirds-l] Tufted Duck Yes

[Joe Jannsen]

3:50 PM: Tufted duck observed on St. John's Pond amongst ringnecks.

Joe

On Jan 13, 2013, at 1:21 PM, "David Klauber" 
mailto:davehawk...@msn.com>> wrote:

I found the Tufted Duck on the pond next to St. John's Church in the extreme ne 
corner of Nassau County about 11:30 this morning. This is adjacent to the fish 
hatchery for those unfamiliar with the area on 25A. It was with a group of Ring 
necked ducks very close to the fence behind the church. It drifted off to the 
right (west) and probably disappeared behind a large fallen tree near the 
shore. I'm not sure because we were distracted by a Eurasian-type Widgeon, 
either a male coming out of eclipse or a hybrid - the sides were similar to the 
nearby American Widgeon. The tuft was wet and not sticking out at all - in fact 
you could see the wet tuft feathers contrasting with the rest of the dark head 
feathers. It could be missed with its head tucked in except for the white sides 
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[nysbirds-l] Tufted Duck Yes

[Joe Jannsen]

3:50 PM: Tufted duck observed on St. John's Pond amongst ringnecks.

Joe

On Jan 13, 2013, at 1:21 PM, David Klauber 
davehawk...@msn.commailto:davehawk...@msn.com wrote:

I found the Tufted Duck on the pond next to St. John's Church in the extreme ne 
corner of Nassau County about 11:30 this morning. This is adjacent to the fish 
hatchery for those unfamiliar with the area on 25A. It was with a group of Ring 
necked ducks very close to the fence behind the church. It drifted off to the 
right (west) and probably disappeared behind a large fallen tree near the 
shore. I'm not sure because we were distracted by a Eurasian-type Widgeon, 
either a male coming out of eclipse or a hybrid - the sides were similar to the 
nearby American Widgeon. The tuft was wet and not sticking out at all - in fact 
you could see the wet tuft feathers contrasting with the rest of the dark head 
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[nysbirds-l] Bittern Dune Road

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Bittern continues at location previously reported by Mike Scheibel; north side 
of road in front of #28 Dune Road, just east of Triton Lane and west of Tiana 
Pavilion, Southampton.

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[nysbirds-l] Eurasian widgeon at Mill Pond, Sayville continues

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Eurasian widgeon continues at Mill Pond, Sayville with an array of American 
widgeon, pintail, mallard, green-winged teal, gadwall, American coot.

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[nysbirds-l] Eurasian widgeon at Mill Pond, Sayville continues

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Eurasian widgeon continues at Mill Pond, Sayville with an array of American 
widgeon, pintail, mallard, green-winged teal, gadwall, American coot.

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[nysbirds-l] Hampton Bays Ravens

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8:53 AM: 1 raven on the grass to the east of the water tower.  Bird flew up 
into a pine, before flying to the trees along the eastern edge of the water 
district property where the 2nd raven was located.  At 9:02 AM, both birds flew 
off to the northwest.

Good luck if you go.

Joe


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[nysbirds-l] Hampton Bays Ravens

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8:53 AM: 1 raven on the grass to the east of the water tower.  Bird flew up 
into a pine, before flying to the trees along the eastern edge of the water 
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: Oil City Road

[Joe Jannsen]

It wasn't blank on my end.
 
Joe



From: bounce-37792438-10871...@list.cornell.edu on behalf of Ken McDermott
Sent: Sat 7/23/2011 10:47 PM
To: nysbird...@list.cornell.edu
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: Oil City Road


Imagine my surprise to look at todays postings and to see that the one that I 
had sent about 10:30am was blank!So, here its is again.
Ken McDermott

Jul 23, 2011 10:36:41 AM, terrei...@verizon.net wrote:


At 10:00am today Danny Messina & Lisa O'Gorman Hofsommer reported that 
they were at the NW impoundment of the Wallkill River NWR and that they saw the 
SANDHILL CRANE, the juv. WHITE IBIS and that they also had a bird that looked 
like an imm. LITTLE BLUE HERON.  Within minutes Rob Stone called and he 
verified all three birds. Others are on their way to see these three, all very 
uncommon for Orange County.
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: Oil City Road

[Joe Jannsen]

It wasn't blank on my end.
 
Joe



From: bounce-37792438-10871...@list.cornell.edu on behalf of Ken McDermott
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Subject: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: Oil City Road


Imagine my surprise to look at todays postings and to see that the one that I 
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Ken McDermott

Jul 23, 2011 10:36:41 AM, terrei...@verizon.net wrote:


At 10:00am today Danny Messina  Lisa O'Gorman Hofsommer reported that 
they were at the NW impoundment of the Wallkill River NWR and that they saw the 
SANDHILL CRANE, the juv. WHITE IBIS and that they also had a bird that looked 
like an imm. LITTLE BLUE HERON.  Within minutes Rob Stone called and he 
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Bank swallow colony - Farmingville

[Joe Jannsen]

Luke,

 

I have forwarded your posts to U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service for comment
regarded protection of the swallow colony under the Migratory Bird
Treaty Act (MBTA) since they administer the MBTA as a federal law.

 

Thanks.

 

Joe



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[mailto:bounce-35413468-10871...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Luke
Ormand
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 2:13 PM
To: NYSbirds-L@cornell.edu
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Bank swallow colony - Farmingville

 

The issue of the Swallows was brought up to the property owner/developer
this morning and he said that he wil refrain from construction
activities in those areas until nesting has been completed.  I presume
that under the Migratory Bird Act these nests would be covered - anyone
with more information (DEC folks?) please feel free to share on here or
through e-mail.  There is also potential for keeping part of the natural
slope (instead of grading it) for future use as a nesting site but that
is to be determined.  

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Least Tern Colony - Flanders Bay

[Joe Jannsen]

Luke,

 

I have forwarded your post to NYSDEC for follow-up.  Thank you for this
report.

 

Joe



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[mailto:bounce-35414454-10871...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Luke
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Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 12:04 AM
To: NYSbirds-L@cornell.edu
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Least Tern Colony - Flanders Bay

 

This evening I went for a kayak trip and found a Least Tern colony in
Flanders Bay on a spit of land that is inaccessible via foot.  There
looked to be about 25 pairs of birds occupying the bit of land.  I had
noticed a plover yesterday nearby so it is possible that there are
plovers breeding on-site, but I didn't get out on foot to check.  I
assume that the Nature Conservancy or the State knows about the site
since there was some fencing - but clearly hasn't been attended to this
year so if anyone knows more about this feel free to contact me, I
certainly wouldn't mind doing some "counting" of the birds given my
proximity to the site and past experience as a plover/tern monitor.  

 

There were several short-billed dowitchers, semi-palmated sanderlings
and willets.  Some of these birds, interestingly enough, were feeding on
horseshoe crab eggs that had just been laid as I watched the pair of
crabs separate and go back into the water as the birds fed where they
had been.  Photos can be seen here:  
http://birdsoflongisland.blogspot.com/2011/06/least-tern-colony.html

 

For those of you interested in herpetology I photographed a
Diamond-backed Terrapin heading back into the water, presumably after
laying eggs.  For photos of that, check out my other blog here: 
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Least Tern Colony - Flanders Bay

[Joe Jannsen]

Luke,

 

I have forwarded your post to NYSDEC for follow-up.  Thank you for this
report.

 

Joe



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(631) 367-3225 Ext. 122 (Phone) 
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[mailto:bounce-35414454-10871...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Luke
Ormand
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 12:04 AM
To: NYSbirds-L@cornell.edu
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Least Tern Colony - Flanders Bay

 

This evening I went for a kayak trip and found a Least Tern colony in
Flanders Bay on a spit of land that is inaccessible via foot.  There
looked to be about 25 pairs of birds occupying the bit of land.  I had
noticed a plover yesterday nearby so it is possible that there are
plovers breeding on-site, but I didn't get out on foot to check.  I
assume that the Nature Conservancy or the State knows about the site
since there was some fencing - but clearly hasn't been attended to this
year so if anyone knows more about this feel free to contact me, I
certainly wouldn't mind doing some counting of the birds given my
proximity to the site and past experience as a plover/tern monitor.  

 

There were several short-billed dowitchers, semi-palmated sanderlings
and willets.  Some of these birds, interestingly enough, were feeding on
horseshoe crab eggs that had just been laid as I watched the pair of
crabs separate and go back into the water as the birds fed where they
had been.  Photos can be seen here:  
http://birdsoflongisland.blogspot.com/2011/06/least-tern-colony.html

 

For those of you interested in herpetology I photographed a
Diamond-backed Terrapin heading back into the water, presumably after
laying eggs.  For photos of that, check out my other blog here: 
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Bank swallow colony - Farmingville

[Joe Jannsen]

Luke,

 

I have forwarded your posts to U.S. Fish  Wildlife Service for comment
regarded protection of the swallow colony under the Migratory Bird
Treaty Act (MBTA) since they administer the MBTA as a federal law.

 

Thanks.

 

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Subject: [nysbirds-l] Bank swallow colony - Farmingville

 

The issue of the Swallows was brought up to the property owner/developer
this morning and he said that he wil refrain from construction
activities in those areas until nesting has been completed.  I presume
that under the Migratory Bird Act these nests would be covered - anyone
with more information (DEC folks?) please feel free to share on here or
through e-mail.  There is also potential for keeping part of the natural
slope (instead of grading it) for future use as a nesting site but that
is to be determined.  

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[nysbirds-l] Dune Road bittern

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Today at 3:00 PM, I observed an American bittern on the marsh (bay) side of 
Dune Road, between Neptune's and Triton Lane.  The bird was very successfully 
hunting in a pool directly across from the Town of Southampton Sand Bar Beach, 
so maybe it will remain in the area.
 
-Joe


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[nysbirds-l] Dune Road bittern

[Joe Jannsen]

Today at 3:00 PM, I observed an American bittern on the marsh (bay) side of 
Dune Road, between Neptune's and Triton Lane.  The bird was very successfully 
hunting in a pool directly across from the Town of Southampton Sand Bar Beach, 
so maybe it will remain in the area.
 
-Joe


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RE: [nysbirds-l] Timber Point Doveke - NO - Sunday, 31 January

[Joe Jannsen]

Did any of the birders on site when this woman was there get her name or the 
wildlife organization/agency she was supposedly with?  Did anybody take down 
her plate number?
 
-Joe



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Sent: Sun 1/31/2010 4:25 PM
To: David Klauber
Cc: NY Birds
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Timber Point Doveke - NO - Sunday, 31 January


Yesterday (early afternoon) there was a woman claiming that the bird was in 
distress and needed help. We told her that the Dovekie was pretty active the 
entire morning (swimming and diving constantly) and that it was just taking a 
break. She insisted that the bird was not OK, mentioned a net in her car and 
that she was going to "rescue" it (whatever than means). Some birders tried to 
discourage her and I left about 2PM (Saturday) after being there for 2 hours 
(more or less). Apparently, this morning the bird was not there and someone 
said that the water at the marine was partially frozen. Maybe the bird left or 
it was taken bey this "rescuer."  I would love know if the bird was "removed" 
from the marine by someone who may have good intentions or it just left the 
place because it was time to continue its journey.  

FP

On Jan 31, 2010, at 3:59 PM, David Klauber wrote:



Following up on Andy's post, I was told that yesterday afternoon around 
12-1 there was a woman present who said she was a wildlife biologist or 
rehabilitator, and she had a crab net to try and catch the bird. Since I saw 
reports of sightings late in the afternoon I assumed she was unsuccessful. 
Maybe she returned later and did catch it. What I don't understand is why she 
was there in the first place, more so given scarce resources and budget cuts. 
The recent newspaper article by a rehabilitation facility said most Dovekies 
don't do well in rehab and 80% die. So why bother trying to catch a seemingly 
actively feeding bird, admittedly in an unusual location, when doing so would 
increase its probability of death? Isn't that time spent more productively 
rescuing beached animals or clearly injured inviduals? The Dovekie only had to 
swim out a hundred yards or so to the bay, which in turn connects to the ocean. 
What's going on here? 



Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:39:30 -0500
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Timber Point Doveke - NO - Sunday, 31 January
From: guthr...@gmail.com
To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu

Just got off the phone with my Dad (Rich Guthrie) who was at Timber 
Point in hopes of seeing the long-staying Dovekie.  He did not see it, and 
according to others on the scene the Dovekie has not been seen all day.  There 
were also second-hand rumors that the Dovekie was taken in, perhaps to a 
rehabilitator.  Anyone have more details on this?  Assuming it's true, it would 
have been useful for word to get out to the listserve to save people the trip 
over. 


Cheers,
Andy Guthrie
Hamlin, NY



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