[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG on reversal ???

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Yg optimis BELANJA donk...right Mr Lee ?

Jangan ikutan Short ya...

Hehehehe

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bila malam ini Dow Jones koreksi diikuti regional, apakah JSX akan
 bertahan??? Apakah saham2 berikut juga akan bertahan: ANTM, TINS, 
INCO,
 TLKM, BBCA, BBRI, UNTR, BNGA, BMRI? Hati2 saja karena market sedang 
membuat
 market top dengan membuat semua orang percaya bahwa indeks akan 
segera ke
 2000.
 
 Kecuali kalau ada yang berani mengatakan bahwa Dow Jones, Hang Seng 
dan
 Nikkei tidak mempengaruhi JSX.
 
 Regards,
 Arifin





Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG on reversal ???

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Wiro Hardy

hehehe, gak perlu lah sindir-sindiran, optimis or nggak kan tergantung time
frame. Kan koreksi normal kan perlu jadi bearish ;-)

On 4/17/07, mr.bearish_forever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Yg optimis BELANJA donk...right Mr Lee ?

Jangan ikutan Short ya...

Hehehehe




[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG on reversal ???

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Wiro Hardy
hehehe, gak perlu lah sindir-sindiran, optimis or nggak kan tergantung
time frame. Kan koreksi normal gak perlu jadi bearish ;-)


On 4/17/07, mr.bearish_forever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






 Yg optimis BELANJA donk...right Mr Lee ?

 Jangan ikutan Short ya...

 Hehehehe




-- 
Best regards,
Wiro.


Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO 1 lot 2 jt merem !!

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik H Gozali
bagi deviden 2 juta, tapi harga juga turun sekitar 2 juta, jadi kurang lebih 
impas, tidak ada penambahan harta

  - Original Message - 
  From: Ari 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:33 AM
  Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] INCO 1 lot 2 jt merem !!


  bentar lagi 500 lembar x deviden 4000 perak 

  -Original Message-
  From: helmi setiawan[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 4/17/07 4:02:23 AM
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] AALI UNSP TBLA LSIP Re: mari berkebun
  Ke empatnya hari ini udah mulai berbuah pak, jangan dipanen dulu,
  siapa tau buahnya ranum2 dalam 2/3 hari ini.

  mungkin musim karena musim hujan ya pak..


  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Josia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   AALI
   UNSP
   TBLA
   LSIP
  








   

[obrolan-bandar] news on UNSP

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik budi suryono
Bakrie Sumatera's Revenue to Rise at Least 35%, President Says
2007-04-17 01:44 (New York)


By Leony Aurora
 April 17 (Bloomberg) -- PT Bakrie Sumatera Plantations,
Indonesia's third-largest plantation company, said that revenue
will rise at least 35 percent this year on high palm oil and
rubber prices.
 Sales last year were 1.18 trillion rupiah ($130 million),
Ambono Janurianto, president director at Bakrie Sumatera, said in
Jakarta today. Revenue in the first quarter rose by more than 20
percent, he said, without elaborating.
 Bakrie Sumatera plans to pay as much as 20 percent of last
year's profit as dividends to shareholders, Janurianto said. Net
income last year was 173 billion rupiah, or 74 rupiah a share,
the company said on March 30.
 Bakrie Sumatera will spend 600 billion rupiah this year,
mostly to add new palm oil plantations, Janurianto said.

--With reporting by Woro Widya Utami in Jakarta. Editor: Killen


   
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[obrolan-bandar] Dividend TINS cuma Rp. 195,-

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik ALX

SOL

--
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INCO 1 lot 2 jt merem !!

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik rika wirya
Cum date 24 April, Ex 25 Aprl, record 27/04, payment 11/05.

bangsur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Klo boleh tahu kapan seh pembagian 
dividen nyaeffektif nya 
yg tgl berapa ??

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andri Wijaya 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ya, tapi besoknya langsung open gap down, sama bandar langsung 
dihitung, no
 free lunch benar nggak bozz
 hari ini malah dihajar teruz, mungkin banyak yang pikir mau free 
lunch, sama
 bozz langsung hajar kapan lagi bisa jualan
 regards
 
 On 4/17/07, Ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  bentar lagi 500 lembar x deviden 4000 perak
 
  -Original Message-
  From: helmi setiawan[EMAIL PROTECTED] banghelmi%40yahoo.com
  Sent: 4/17/07 4:02:23 AM
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com
  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] AALI UNSP TBLA LSIP Re: mari berkebun
  Ke empatnya hari ini udah mulai berbuah pak, jangan dipanen dulu,
  siapa tau buahnya ranum2 dalam 2/3 hari ini.
 
  mungkin musim karena musim hujan ya pak..
 
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com,
  Josia josia@ wrote:
  
   AALI
   UNSP
   TBLA
   LSIP
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 




 

   
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO 1 lot 2 jt merem !!

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Andri Wijaya

jangan lupa ada pajak 20%, ex cum biasa harga turun lebih dari deviden, coba
cek

On 4/17/07, H Gozali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   bagi deviden 2 juta, tapi harga juga turun sekitar 2 juta, jadi kurang
lebih impas, tidak ada penambahan harta


- Original Message -
*From:* Ari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:33 AM
*Subject:* RE: [obrolan-bandar] INCO 1 lot 2 jt merem !!

 bentar lagi 500 lembar x deviden 4000 perak

-Original Message-
From: helmi setiawan[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 4/17/07 4:02:23 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] AALI UNSP TBLA LSIP Re: mari berkebun
Ke empatnya hari ini udah mulai berbuah pak, jangan dipanen dulu,
siapa tau buahnya ranum2 dalam 2/3 hari ini.

mungkin musim karena musim hujan ya pak..


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
Josia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 AALI
 UNSP
 TBLA
 LSIP







 



Re: [obrolan-bandar] try--short as speculator

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik James Arifin

Seems the message is please don't short my stock pick as I hold vast amount
of that until I ordered you so as I had finished offloading my part ...
gezzz ...

Top of ANTM : 16000 (still become resistant)
Top of INCO : 64000
Top of TINS : 14650

I saw a possibilitiy that IHSG will have a correction for few days. Now, big
players is offloading part of their portfolio. Indonesia market is not like
DJ. All things happened in JSX is artificial, you can learn it from May 2005
where the JSX make huge correction, so bullish market is a best time to
offload portfolio for big player and bearish market will be time for entry
for big player. Retail investor and trader just follow the market.

So, I will recommend to offload portfolio every time JSX reach new high as
recently happened and be ready with hard cash for crash market.


Regards,


On 4/17/07, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   May be... you can try to short MEDC, BLTA, INDF, BNGA

In bullish market...
Don't short my 7 stars (TLKM,ISAT, BBRI,BMRI, ANTM, TINS,PGAS)
And  don't short 7 others (ASII, AALI, INCO, BBCA, UNVR, BDMN,PTBA)

ok.

if you believe me .

please do it

- Original Message 
From: mr.bearish_forever [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 16 April 2007 3:57:44PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [quote] ANTM : STRONG BUY! USD 2++/share
(per 8 Maret 2007)

 Not Today..

When extreme overbought volume is over, I will Supply this stocks.

May be Tom, May be Day after Tom?

Always Take Profit!

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Thank's for your ANTM research.
 My TP is US$ 2.

 Your TP is Rp 24.600,-

 Tell to short seller ...like Mr Bear... to short ... ANTM
 and 24.600 not more than 12 months


 - Original Message 
 From: Sudeswanto samsudesyang@ ...
 To: samsudesyang@ ...
 Sent: Monday, 16 April 2007 7:03:57AM
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] [quote] ANTM : STRONG BUY! USD 2++/share
(per 8 Maret 2007)

















 Best Regards,



 SAMUEL SUDESWANTO YEUNG

 (http://samsudesyang .blogs.friendste r.com/sudeswanto /)

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG on reversal ???

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert
FYI, TINS To Pay IDR207/Share Dividend

Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:he.he..
   
  waduh koq banyak andai-andainya...
   
  Btw... one thing for sure.. Dow will open lower
   
  However... Will down close in red .. or will it make another hammer ??
   
  ha.h.a... still 18 hours to go
   
  ha.h...ha

 
  On 4/17/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Bila malam 
ini Dow Jones koreksi diikuti regional, apakah JSX akan bertahan??? Apakah 
saham2 berikut juga akan bertahan: ANTM, TINS, INCO, TLKM, BBCA, BBRI, UNTR, 
BNGA, BMRI? Hati2 saja karena market sedang membuat market top dengan membuat 
semua orang percaya bahwa indeks akan segera ke 2000. 
   
  Kecuali kalau ada yang berani mengatakan bahwa Dow Jones, Hang Seng dan 
Nikkei tidak mempengaruhi JSX.
   
  Regards,
  Arifin
  
  






  

 

   
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG on reversal ???

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik andreas vindyartono
kum datenya kapan ?

- Original Message 
From: Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 11:54:35 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG on reversal ???









  



FYI, TINS To Pay IDR207/Share Dividend

Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:  
  he.he..
   
  waduh koq banyak andai-andainya. ..
   
  Btw... one thing for sure.. Dow will open lower
   
  However... Will down close in red .. or will it make another hammer ??
   
  ha.h.a... still 18 hours to go
   
  ha.h...ha... .

 
  On 4/17/07, James Arifin james.arifin@ gmail.com wrote:   Bila 
malam ini Dow Jones koreksi diikuti regional, apakah JSX akan bertahan??? 
Apakah saham2 berikut juga akan bertahan: ANTM, TINS, INCO, TLKM, BBCA, BBRI, 
UNTR, BNGA, BMRI? Hati2 saja karena market sedang membuat market top dengan 
membuat semua orang percaya bahwa indeks akan segera ke 2000. 
   
  Kecuali kalau ada yang berani mengatakan bahwa Dow Jones, Hang Seng dan 
Nikkei tidak mempengaruhi JSX.
   
  Regards,
  Arifin
  
  







  



 

  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: try--short as speculator

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Nice comments,

If investors only follow the big bulls, then you will loose your best 
oportunity to lock the profit, when the bull berak. You better be 
contrarian, whereas you sell whenever market is at new high and buy 
back whenever market is in deep deep lower correction. 
SHORT AT HIGH BUY AT LOW

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Seems the message is please don't short my stock pick as I hold 
vast amount
 of that until I ordered you so as I had finished offloading my 
part ...
 gezzz ...
 
 Top of ANTM : 16000 (still become resistant)
 Top of INCO : 64000
 Top of TINS : 14650
 
 I saw a possibilitiy that IHSG will have a correction for few days. 
Now, big
 players is offloading part of their portfolio. Indonesia market is 
not like
 DJ. All things happened in JSX is artificial, you can learn it from 
May 2005
 where the JSX make huge correction, so bullish market is a best 
time to
 offload portfolio for big player and bearish market will be time 
for entry
 for big player. Retail investor and trader just follow the market.
 
 So, I will recommend to offload portfolio every time JSX reach new 
high as
 recently happened and be ready with hard cash for crash market.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 On 4/17/07, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 May be... you can try to short MEDC, BLTA, INDF, BNGA
 
  In bullish market...
  Don't short my 7 stars (TLKM,ISAT, BBRI,BMRI, ANTM, TINS,PGAS)
  And  don't short 7 others (ASII, AALI, INCO, BBCA, UNVR, 
BDMN,PTBA)
 
  ok.
 
  if you believe me .
 
  please do it
 
  - Original Message 
  From: mr.bearish_forever [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, 16 April 2007 3:57:44PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [quote] ANTM : STRONG BUY! USD 
2++/share
  (per 8 Maret 2007)
 
   Not Today..
 
  When extreme overbought volume is over, I will Supply this stocks.
 
  May be Tom, May be Day after Tom?
 
  Always Take Profit!
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com,
  Lee Cwan Yeuw leecwan@ 
  wrote:
  
   Thank's for your ANTM research.
   My TP is US$ 2.
  
   Your TP is Rp 24.600,-
  
   Tell to short seller ...like Mr Bear... to short ... ANTM
   and 24.600 not more than 12 months
  
  
   - Original Message 
   From: Sudeswanto samsudesyang@ ...
   To: samsudesyang@ ...
   Sent: Monday, 16 April 2007 7:03:57AM
   Subject: [obrolan-bandar] [quote] ANTM : STRONG BUY! USD 
2++/share
  (per 8 Maret 2007)
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   Best Regards,
  
  
  
   SAMUEL SUDESWANTO YEUNG
  
   (http://samsudesyang .blogs.friendste r.com/sudeswanto /)
  
   RESEARCH DEPARTMENT
  
  
  
   PT SINARMAS SEKURITAS
  
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the
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG on reversal ???

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert
may 16 cum

andreas vindyartono [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  kum datenya kapan ?

  - Original Message 
From: Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 11:54:35 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG on reversal ???

FYI, TINS To Pay IDR207/Share Dividend

Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: 
he.he..
   
  waduh koq banyak andai-andainya. ..
   
  Btw... one thing for sure.. Dow will open lower
   
  However... Will down close in red .. or will it make another hammer ??
   
  ha.h.a... still 18 hours to go
   
  ha.h...ha... .

 
  On 4/17/07, James Arifin james.arifin@ gmail.com wrote:   Bila 
malam ini Dow Jones koreksi diikuti regional, apakah JSX akan bertahan??? 
Apakah saham2 berikut juga akan bertahan: ANTM, TINS, INCO, TLKM, BBCA, BBRI, 
UNTR, BNGA, BMRI? Hati2 saja karena market sedang membuat market top dengan 
membuat semua orang percaya bahwa indeks akan segera ke 2000. 
   
  Kecuali kalau ada yang berani mengatakan bahwa Dow Jones, Hang Seng dan 
Nikkei tidak mempengaruhi JSX.
   
  Regards,
  Arifin
  
  







  



  
  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG on reversal ???

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik James Arifin

For this time, it is better to take profit TINS or short TINS. Better to put
your investment in money market. IDR 207 equal to 1.5% interest for full
year. Considering upside and downside of TINS, it is better to take short
position or take profit on this share instead of holding it at this moment.

On 4/17/07, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  FYI, TINS To Pay IDR207/Share Dividend

*Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 he.he..

waduh koq banyak andai-andainya...

Btw... one thing for sure.. Dow will open lower

However... Will down close in red .. or will it make another hammer ??

ha.h.a... still 18 hours to go

ha.h...ha


On 4/17/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Bila malam ini Dow Jones koreksi diikuti regional, apakah JSX akan
 bertahan??? Apakah saham2 berikut juga akan bertahan: ANTM, TINS, INCO,
 TLKM, BBCA, BBRI, UNTR, BNGA, BMRI? Hati2 saja karena market sedang membuat
 market top dengan membuat semua orang percaya bahwa indeks akan segera ke
 2000.

 Kecuali kalau ada yang berani mengatakan bahwa Dow Jones, Hang Seng dan
 Nikkei tidak mempengaruhi JSX.

 Regards,
 Arifin



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Fair Value IDR 1480 ?...Re: [obrolan-bandar] news on UNSP

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Investor Bonex
Assuming yield 5%, so Fair Value will be IDR 1480. I believe UNSP deserve to 
have it, considering bright future growth.
   
  Any comment ?
  

budi suryono [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Bakrie Sumatera's Revenue to Rise at Least 35%, President Says
2007-04-17 01:44 (New York)


By Leony Aurora
 April 17 (Bloomberg) -- PT Bakrie Sumatera Plantations,
Indonesia's third-largest plantation company, said that revenue
will rise at least 35 percent this year on high palm oil and
rubber prices.
 Sales last year were 1.18 trillion rupiah ($130 million),
Ambono Janurianto, president director at Bakrie Sumatera, said in
Jakarta today. Revenue in the first quarter rose by more than 20
percent, he said, without elaborating.
 Bakrie Sumatera plans to pay as much as 20 percent of last
year's profit as dividends to shareholders, Janurianto said. Net
income last year was 173 billion rupiah, or 74 rupiah a share,
the company said on March 30.
 Bakrie Sumatera will spend 600 billion rupiah this year,
mostly to add new palm oil plantations, Janurianto said.

--With reporting by Woro Widya Utami in Jakarta. Editor: Killen


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[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG on reversal ???

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik helmi setiawan
Ini TINS bagi dividen 50%
http://www.detikfinance.com/index.php/kanal.read/tahun/2007/bulan/04/tgl/17/time/134815/idnews/768533/idkanal/6



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 may 16 cum
 
 andreas vindyartono [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  kum
datenya kapan ?
 
   - Original Message 
 From: Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 11:54:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG on reversal ???
 
 FYI, TINS To Pay IDR207/Share Dividend
 
 Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: 
 he.he..

   waduh koq banyak andai-andainya. ..

   Btw... one thing for sure.. Dow will open lower

   However... Will down close in red .. or will it make another hammer ??

   ha.h.a... still 18 hours to go

   ha.h...ha... .
 
  
   On 4/17/07, James Arifin james.arifin@ gmail.com wrote:
  Bila malam ini Dow Jones koreksi diikuti regional, apakah JSX
akan bertahan??? Apakah saham2 berikut juga akan bertahan: ANTM, TINS,
INCO, TLKM, BBCA, BBRI, UNTR, BNGA, BMRI? Hati2 saja karena market
sedang membuat market top dengan membuat semua orang percaya bahwa
indeks akan segera ke 2000. 

   Kecuali kalau ada yang berani mengatakan bahwa Dow Jones, Hang
Seng dan Nikkei tidak mempengaruhi JSX.

   Regards,
   Arifin
   
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG on reversal ???

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik James Arifin

Caused from history that Indonesia market always latah if regional market
broken down. JSX will break even deeper than regional especially if mining
sector on correction

On 4/17/07, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   he.he..

waduh koq banyak andai-andainya...

Btw... one thing for sure.. Dow will open lower

However... Will down close in red .. or will it make another hammer ??

ha.h.a... still 18 hours to go

ha.h...ha


 On 4/17/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Bila malam ini Dow Jones koreksi diikuti regional, apakah JSX akan
 bertahan??? Apakah saham2 berikut juga akan bertahan: ANTM, TINS, INCO,
 TLKM, BBCA, BBRI, UNTR, BNGA, BMRI? Hati2 saja karena market sedang membuat
 market top dengan membuat semua orang percaya bahwa indeks akan segera ke
 2000.

 Kecuali kalau ada yang berani mengatakan bahwa Dow Jones, Hang Seng dan
 Nikkei tidak mempengaruhi JSX.

 Regards,
 Arifin






Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: try--short as speculator

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik bearish sucks
mending pake bhs indonesia pak, daripada pake bhs inggris yang blepotan...
  kalau berani ngomong gini berarti bapak mainnya sehari diatas 50 bio ya pak..?
  tapi kalau cuma 500 juta ampe 10 bio mendingan diem...
  hard crash..? gak laah...makanya indeks bakal ada yang melukis ampe diatas 
2020..., jadi kalau ada hardcrash 50-60 point dalam 5 hari indeks tetap sehat 
diatas 1900...
  ok pa...? 
  damai ah...

mr.bearish_forever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Nice comments,

If investors only follow the big bulls, then you will loose your best 
oportunity to lock the profit, when the bull berak. You better be 
contrarian, whereas you sell whenever market is at new high and buy 
back whenever market is in deep deep lower correction. 
SHORT AT HIGH BUY AT LOW

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Seems the message is please don't short my stock pick as I hold 
vast amount
 of that until I ordered you so as I had finished offloading my 
part ...
 gezzz ...
 
 Top of ANTM : 16000 (still become resistant)
 Top of INCO : 64000
 Top of TINS : 14650
 
 I saw a possibilitiy that IHSG will have a correction for few days. 
Now, big
 players is offloading part of their portfolio. Indonesia market is 
not like
 DJ. All things happened in JSX is artificial, you can learn it from 
May 2005
 where the JSX make huge correction, so bullish market is a best 
time to
 offload portfolio for big player and bearish market will be time 
for entry
 for big player. Retail investor and trader just follow the market.
 
 So, I will recommend to offload portfolio every time JSX reach new 
high as
 recently happened and be ready with hard cash for crash market.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 
 On 4/17/07, Lee Cwan Yeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  May be... you can try to short MEDC, BLTA, INDF, BNGA
 
  In bullish market...
  Don't short my 7 stars (TLKM,ISAT, BBRI,BMRI, ANTM, TINS,PGAS)
  And don't short 7 others (ASII, AALI, INCO, BBCA, UNVR, 
BDMN,PTBA)
 
  ok.
 
  if you believe me .
 
  please do it
 
  - Original Message 
  From: mr.bearish_forever [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, 16 April 2007 3:57:44PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [quote] ANTM : STRONG BUY! USD 
2++/share
  (per 8 Maret 2007)
 
  Not Today..
 
  When extreme overbought volume is over, I will Supply this stocks.
 
  May be Tom, May be Day after Tom?
 
  Always Take Profit!
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com,
  Lee Cwan Yeuw leecwan@ 
  wrote:
  
   Thank's for your ANTM research.
   My TP is US$ 2.
  
   Your TP is Rp 24.600,-
  
   Tell to short seller ...like Mr Bear... to short ... ANTM
   and 24.600 not more than 12 months
  
  
   - Original Message 
   From: Sudeswanto samsudesyang@ ...
   To: samsudesyang@ ...
   Sent: Monday, 16 April 2007 7:03:57AM
   Subject: [obrolan-bandar] [quote] ANTM : STRONG BUY! USD 
2++/share
  (per 8 Maret 2007)
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   Best Regards,
  
  
  
   SAMUEL SUDESWANTO YEUNG
  
   (http://samsudesyang .blogs.friendste r.com/sudeswanto /)
  
   RESEARCH DEPARTMENT
  
  
  
   PT SINARMAS SEKURITAS
  
   GEDUNG PLAZA BII MENARA III
  
   Jl.M.H.Thamrin No.51
  
   Telp : 62-21-3925550 ext.159
  
   Fax : 62-21-3925579
  
  
  
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   This material is issued by PT Sinarmas Sekuritas, a member of 
the
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Sinarmas
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: try--short as speculator

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Saya ketik Bozz, jadi memang mulutnya diem.

hardcrash...-50 dlm 5 hari berturut2? hehehe -70 dlm sehari aja udah 
pada lari..


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, bearish sucks 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 mending pake bhs indonesia pak, daripada pake bhs inggris yang 
blepotan...
   kalau berani ngomong gini berarti bapak mainnya sehari diatas 50 
bio ya pak..?
   tapi kalau cuma 500 juta ampe 10 bio mendingan diem...
   hard crash..? gak laah...makanya indeks bakal ada yang melukis 
ampe diatas 2020..., jadi kalau ada hardcrash 50-60 point dalam 5 
hari indeks tetap sehat diatas 1900...
   ok pa...? 
   damai ah...
 
 mr.bearish_forever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Nice comments,
 
 If investors only follow the big bulls, then you will loose your 
best 
 oportunity to lock the profit, when the bull berak. You better be 
 contrarian, whereas you sell whenever market is at new high and buy 
 back whenever market is in deep deep lower correction. 
 SHORT AT HIGH BUY AT LOW
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin 
 james.arifin@ wrote:
 
  Seems the message is please don't short my stock pick as I hold 
 vast amount
  of that until I ordered you so as I had finished offloading my 
 part ...
  gezzz ...
  
  Top of ANTM : 16000 (still become resistant)
  Top of INCO : 64000
  Top of TINS : 14650
  
  I saw a possibilitiy that IHSG will have a correction for few 
days. 
 Now, big
  players is offloading part of their portfolio. Indonesia market 
is 
 not like
  DJ. All things happened in JSX is artificial, you can learn it 
from 
 May 2005
  where the JSX make huge correction, so bullish market is a best 
 time to
  offload portfolio for big player and bearish market will be time 
 for entry
  for big player. Retail investor and trader just follow the market.
  
  So, I will recommend to offload portfolio every time JSX reach 
new 
 high as
  recently happened and be ready with hard cash for crash market.
  
  
  Regards,
  
  
  On 4/17/07, Lee Cwan Yeuw leecwan@ wrote:
  
   May be... you can try to short MEDC, BLTA, INDF, BNGA
  
   In bullish market...
   Don't short my 7 stars (TLKM,ISAT, BBRI,BMRI, ANTM, TINS,PGAS)
   And don't short 7 others (ASII, AALI, INCO, BBCA, UNVR, 
 BDMN,PTBA)
  
   ok.
  
   if you believe me .
  
   please do it
  
   - Original Message 
   From: mr.bearish_forever mr.bearish_forever@
   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, 16 April 2007 3:57:44PM
   Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [quote] ANTM : STRONG BUY! USD 
 2++/share
   (per 8 Maret 2007)
  
   Not Today..
  
   When extreme overbought volume is over, I will Supply this 
stocks.
  
   May be Tom, May be Day after Tom?
  
   Always Take Profit!
  
   --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%
 40yahoogroups.com,
   Lee Cwan Yeuw leecwan@ 
   wrote:
   
Thank's for your ANTM research.
My TP is US$ 2.
   
Your TP is Rp 24.600,-
   
Tell to short seller ...like Mr Bear... to short ... ANTM
and 24.600 not more than 12 months
   
   
- Original Message 
From: Sudeswanto samsudesyang@ ...
To: samsudesyang@ ...
Sent: Monday, 16 April 2007 7:03:57AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] [quote] ANTM : STRONG BUY! USD 
 2++/share
   (per 8 Maret 2007)
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
Best Regards,
   
   
   
SAMUEL SUDESWANTO YEUNG
   
(http://samsudesyang .blogs.friendste r.com/sudeswanto /)
   
RESEARCH DEPARTMENT
   
   
   
PT SINARMAS SEKURITAS
   
GEDUNG PLAZA BII MENARA III
   
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Fax : 62-21-3925579
   
   
   
DISCLAIMER :
   
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dividend TINS cuma Rp. 195,-

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Andri Wijaya

menurut pak FS deviden tins 207, so yang mana yang benar?

On 4/17/07, ALX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  SOL

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG on reversal ???

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik andreas vindyartono
Terima kasih, Pak.

- Original Message 
From: Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:15:39 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG on reversal ???









  



may 16 cum

andreas vindyartono avindyartono@ yahoo.com wrote:  
kum datenya kapan ?

  - Original Message 
From: Frederick Schubert pemainbesar@ yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday,
 April 16, 2007 11:54:35 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG on reversal ???

FYI, TINS To Pay IDR207/Share Dividend

Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: 
he.he..
   
  waduh koq banyak andai-andainya. ..
   
  Btw... one thing for sure.. Dow will open lower
   
  However... Will down close in red .. or will it make another hammer ??
   
  ha.h.a... still 18 hours to go
   
  ha.h...ha... .

 
  On 4/17/07, James Arifin james.arifin@ gmail.com wrote:   Bila 
malam ini Dow Jones koreksi diikuti regional, apakah JSX akan bertahan??? 
Apakah saham2 berikut juga akan bertahan: ANTM, TINS, INCO, TLKM, BBCA, BBRI, 
UNTR, BNGA, BMRI? Hati2 saja karena market sedang membuat market top dengan 
membuat semua orang percaya bahwa indeks akan segera ke 2000. 
   
  Kecuali kalau ada yang berani mengatakan bahwa Dow Jones, Hang Seng dan 
Nikkei tidak mempengaruhi JSX.
   
  Regards,
  Arifin
  
  







  



  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dividend TINS cuma Rp. 195,-

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Satria Wiguna

207 dari detik.com

http://www.detikfinance.com/index.php/kanal.read/tahun/2007/bulan/04/tgl/17/time/134815/idnews/768533/idkanal/6


On 4/17/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  menurut pak FS deviden tins 207, so yang mana yang benar?

On 4/17/07, ALX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   SOL

 --
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[obrolan-bandar] Tin closing di Kuala Lumpur hari ini

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Teddy Halim

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[obrolan-bandar] TMPI menuju 1200

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Lord OHO THE TRADER
 DISCLAIMER IS ON.

 

 

 

He.he.he.he



[obrolan-bandar] AALI UNSP TBLA LSIP Re: mari berkebun

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik helmi setiawan
aneh ya pak Jos, 3/4 hari berkebun Di BEJ udah bisa metik buah, cuma
seringkali salah tanem, jadi buahnya busuk2.. mungkin kurang pupuk.



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, helmi setiawan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ke empatnya hari ini udah mulai berbuah pak, jangan dipanen dulu,
 siapa tau buahnya ranum2 dalam 2/3 hari ini.
 
 mungkin musim karena musim hujan ya pak..
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Josia josia@ wrote:
 
  AALI
  UNSP
  TBLA
  LSIP
 





RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG on reversal ???

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa
TRADINGS by (a lot of) fears inside - right (he.he.)
 
-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frederick Schubert
Sent: 17 April 2007 13:55
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG on reversal ???
 
FYI, TINS To Pay IDR207/Share Dividend

Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
he.he..
 
waduh koq banyak andai-andainya...
 
Btw... one thing for sure.. Dow will open lower
 
However... Will down close in red .. or will it make another hammer ??
 
ha.h.a... still 18 hours to go
 
ha.h...ha

 
On 4/17/07, James Arifin james.arifin@ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
gmail.com wrote: 
Bila malam ini Dow Jones koreksi diikuti regional, apakah JSX akan
bertahan??? Apakah saham2 berikut juga akan bertahan: ANTM, TINS, INCO,
TLKM, BBCA, BBRI, UNTR, BNGA, BMRI? Hati2 saja karena market sedang
membuat market top dengan membuat semua orang percaya bahwa indeks akan
segera ke 2000. 
 
Kecuali kalau ada yang berani mengatakan bahwa Dow Jones, Hang Seng dan
Nikkei tidak mempengaruhi JSX.
 
Regards,
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: try--short as speculator

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik mr.bearish_forever
Kalo indeks cuma 2020 berarti tinggal 2.8% upsidenya. Kalo yang 
invest dari awal maret indeks lagi 1740, sekarang udah enjoy 13% 
dalam 1.5 bulan atau 104% annually. Apa ngga cukup happy kalo lock 
the profit? expect kalo kita rakus. well it's a choice. Unload 
dulu half of it, then save it under the pillow. somewhere between now 
till end of the year, any correction below today's index adalah 
waktunya average down. kalo naik. ngga turun-turun gw msh ada 
separo. he he he

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, mr.bearish_forever 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Saya ketik Bozz, jadi memang mulutnya diem.
 
 hardcrash...-50 dlm 5 hari berturut2? hehehe -70 dlm sehari aja 
udah 
 pada lari..
  

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, bearish sucks 
 i_kick_mrbearish@ wrote:
 
  mending pake bhs indonesia pak, daripada pake bhs inggris yang 
 blepotan...
kalau berani ngomong gini berarti bapak mainnya sehari diatas 
50 
 bio ya pak..?
tapi kalau cuma 500 juta ampe 10 bio mendingan diem...
hard crash..? gak laah...makanya indeks bakal ada yang melukis 
 ampe diatas 2020..., jadi kalau ada hardcrash 50-60 point dalam 5 
 hari indeks tetap sehat diatas 1900...
ok pa...? 
damai ah...
  
  mr.bearish_forever mr.bearish_forever@ wrote:
Nice comments,
  
  If investors only follow the big bulls, then you will loose your 
 best 
  oportunity to lock the profit, when the bull berak. You better 
be 
  contrarian, whereas you sell whenever market is at new high and 
buy 
  back whenever market is in deep deep lower correction. 
  SHORT AT HIGH BUY AT LOW
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Arifin 
  james.arifin@ wrote:
  
   Seems the message is please don't short my stock pick as I hold 
  vast amount
   of that until I ordered you so as I had finished offloading my 
  part ...
   gezzz ...
   
   Top of ANTM : 16000 (still become resistant)
   Top of INCO : 64000
   Top of TINS : 14650
   
   I saw a possibilitiy that IHSG will have a correction for few 
 days. 
  Now, big
   players is offloading part of their portfolio. Indonesia market 
 is 
  not like
   DJ. All things happened in JSX is artificial, you can learn it 
 from 
  May 2005
   where the JSX make huge correction, so bullish market is a best 
  time to
   offload portfolio for big player and bearish market will be 
time 
  for entry
   for big player. Retail investor and trader just follow the 
market.
   
   So, I will recommend to offload portfolio every time JSX reach 
 new 
  high as
   recently happened and be ready with hard cash for crash market.
   
   
   Regards,
   
   
   On 4/17/07, Lee Cwan Yeuw leecwan@ wrote:
   
May be... you can try to short MEDC, BLTA, INDF, BNGA
   
In bullish market...
Don't short my 7 stars (TLKM,ISAT, BBRI,BMRI, ANTM, TINS,PGAS)
And don't short 7 others (ASII, AALI, INCO, BBCA, UNVR, 
  BDMN,PTBA)
   
ok.
   
if you believe me .
   
please do it
   
- Original Message 
From: mr.bearish_forever mr.bearish_forever@
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 16 April 2007 3:57:44PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [quote] ANTM : STRONG BUY! USD 
  2++/share
(per 8 Maret 2007)
   
Not Today..
   
When extreme overbought volume is over, I will Supply this 
 stocks.
   
May be Tom, May be Day after Tom?
   
Always Take Profit!
   
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%
  40yahoogroups.com,
Lee Cwan Yeuw leecwan@ 
wrote:

 Thank's for your ANTM research.
 My TP is US$ 2.

 Your TP is Rp 24.600,-

 Tell to short seller ...like Mr Bear... to short ... ANTM
 and 24.600 not more than 12 months


 - Original Message 
 From: Sudeswanto samsudesyang@ ...
 To: samsudesyang@ ...
 Sent: Monday, 16 April 2007 7:03:57AM
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] [quote] ANTM : STRONG BUY! USD 
  2++/share
(per 8 Maret 2007)

















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Re: Fair Value IDR 1480 ?...Re: [obrolan-bandar] news on UNSP

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert
hard to say...but tunas baru looks more promising (than unsp) due to its 
laggard and cheap status (on PBV)...
  

Investor Bonex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Assuming yield 5%, so Fair Value will be IDR 1480. I believe UNSP 
deserve to have it, considering bright future growth.
   
  Any comment ?
  

budi suryono [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Bakrie Sumatera's Revenue to Rise at Least 35%, President Says
2007-04-17 01:44 (New York)


By Leony Aurora
 April 17 (Bloomberg) -- PT Bakrie Sumatera Plantations,
Indonesia's third-largest plantation company, said that revenue
will rise at least 35 percent this year on high palm oil and
rubber prices.
 Sales last year were 1.18 trillion rupiah ($130 million),
Ambono Janurianto, president director at Bakrie Sumatera, said in
Jakarta today. Revenue in the first quarter rose by more than 20
percent, he said, without elaborating.
 Bakrie Sumatera plans to pay as much as 20 percent of last
year's profit as dividends to shareholders, Janurianto said. Net
income last year was 173 billion rupiah, or 74 rupiah a share,
the company said on March 30.
 Bakrie Sumatera will spend 600 billion rupiah this year,
mostly to add new palm oil plantations, Janurianto said.

--With reporting by Woro Widya Utami in Jakarta. Editor: Killen


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FW: [obrolan-bandar] FW: Petabaru

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik budi machribie
Heran koq pada naksir PTBA karena dengar2 batubaranya sudah minim.Yang masih
potensil untuk explotasi  ekspor ada di Kaltim

 

   _  

From: budi machribie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 April 2007 11:46
To: 'Deden Hafid'
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] FW: Petabaru

 

He..he..he… baru 1 subjek sudah ada macam2 tafsiran

Kita tunggu tanggapan pak Lee saja

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From: Deden Hafid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 14 April 2007 20:42
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Hal: [obrolan-bandar] FW: Petabaru

 

pak saya malah melihat PeTaBAru itu seperti PTBA.

- Pesan Asli 
Dari: budi machribie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Sabtu, 14 April, 2007 8:22:40
Topik: [obrolan-bandar] FW: Petabaru



Perhaps you mean Petak Baru.

If that is the case then you should go to the Down Town ( Kota ) as it is
near Pasar Pagi  Pintu Kecil 

 

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com ] On Behalf Of Lee Cwan Yeuw
Sent: 13 April 2007 14:57
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] TINS NGUAMUKK dan unsp

 

I know about you , when you tell us about The Brilliance.

Schroeder ?

Ehrliecheit wahrt am langsten.

You are The Brilliance. Budi is brillliance.

In the end of January, my friend ask me, Do you know about PeTaBAru?

What is that? Could you help me to know about that?

 

 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dividend TINS cuma Rp. 195,-

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik ALX

UPS!
Sorry...
tapi cuma beda tipis kok...
cuma beda Rp. 12,- atau cuma beda 0.08% dr hari harga sahamnya yg sekitar
14K.
he he he



On 4/17/07, Satria Wiguna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


207 dari detik.com

http://www.detikfinance.com/index.php/kanal.read/tahun/2007/bulan/04/tgl/17/time/134815/idnews/768533/idkanal/6



On 4/17/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   menurut pak FS deviden tins 207, so yang mana yang benar?

 On 4/17/07, ALX [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 
SOL
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dividend TINS cuma Rp. 195,-

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik agus halim
Halo Pak Alex,
   
  Kalo boleh tahu cum date dan ex datenya kpn??
   
  Mohon infonya
   
  Thanks

ALX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  SOL

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI UNSP TBLA LSIP Re: mari berkebun

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Iwan
Pak Helmi, 
Kalo tak berbuah itu baru kurang pupuk, tapi kalo
berbuah tapi buah nya busuk berarti kurang peptisidanya. :D

Tapi kalo tanam sirih tapi berbuah semangka 
harus tanya sama Om Broery.

salam 
Iwan
bukan petani


- Original Message - 
From: helmi setiawan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:57 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] AALI UNSP TBLA LSIP Re: mari berkebun


 aneh ya pak Jos, 3/4 hari berkebun Di BEJ udah bisa metik buah, cuma
 seringkali salah tanem, jadi buahnya busuk2.. mungkin kurang pupuk.
 
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, helmi setiawan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ke empatnya hari ini udah mulai berbuah pak, jangan dipanen dulu,
 siapa tau buahnya ranum2 dalam 2/3 hari ini.
 
 mungkin musim karena musim hujan ya pak..
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Josia josia@ wrote:
 
  AALI
  UNSP
  TBLA
  LSIP
 

 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO: Perkiraan Tahun 2007

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Andri Wijaya

saya nampung di 51500 saja dech, disitu ada angin mungkin bozz mau nutup
angin dulu. ayo bozz hajar teruzz kalu sampe di bawah 51500 boleh juga, udah
siapin ember gede buat nampung. he
regards

On 4/17/07, Ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  SETUJU !!! Silahkan Yg mau ngesot, yg mau profit taking. Yg mau nampung.
marilah kita bersatu di akhir bulan ini, ber joget di acara dangdut INCO
ria.

-Original Message-
From: Irwan Ariston Napitupulu[EMAIL PROTECTED]rupiah2500%40hotmail.com

Sent: 4/17/07 3:49:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] saham%40yahoogroups.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] saham%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: [saham] Re: INCO: Perkiraan Tahun 2007
Saya juga berharap INCO dibawa turun lagi ke 58000-6
oleh para BD. Semuanya jadi sama2 senang...:)
Yang mau investasi bisa dapat harga murah, yang
ngeshort di high bisa dapat untung.

jabat erat,
Irwan Ariston Napitupulu


--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] saham%40yahoogroups.com, James Arifin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dugaan saya setiap ada tulisan Bang Irwan, BD bereaksi sebaliknya untuk
 mengguyur market dengan barang seabrek2. Melihat pergerakan harga
INCO hari
 terlihat ada yang keluar besar2 karena ada informasi yang diketahui
terlebih
 dahulu. Dari DOW teori, kemarin terjadi lower high dan kita tinggal
tunggu
 lower low maka bearish akan mulai terjadi ... keep safe trading. Time to
 short INCO? Sayang liquiditynya payah ... bisa short mau covernya
susah 1/2
 mati.

 Regards,






 



[obrolan-bandar] Oil Rises on Expected Growth in Demand; Refineries Raise Output

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Joe Grunk

   Oil Rises on Expected Growth 
in Demand; Refineries Raise Output   
 By Eduard Gismatullin
April 17 (Bloomberg) -- Crude 
oil climbed in New York on speculation demand for fuel was increasing before 
the summer driving season.  
 U.S. gasoline supplies probably fell the least in 10 weeks as refining 
reached a 14-week high, according to a Bloomberg News survey before a weekly 
government report tomorrow. Crude also rose after Canada's Enbridge Inc. shut 
down part of its pipeline pumping oil to the U.S. Midwest yesterday following a 
leak.  
 ``Concerns about the driving season and gasoline inventory levels 
clearly are providing some support,'' said Richard Savage, the head of energy 
research at Mirabaud Securities Ltd. in London. ``From the refining side, we've 
seen difficulties in really adding significant capacity going forward and 
that's keeping this market tight.''  
 Crude oil for May delivery rose as much as 57 cents, or 0.9 percent, 
to $64.18 a barrel in after-hours electronic trading on the New York Mercantile 
Exchange and was at $64.08 at 12 noon in London. The contract expires at the 
end of the week. The more actively traded June contract gained 54 cents to 
$66.21 a barrel.  
 U.S. refiners probably used 88.8 percent of their plant capacity last 
week, the highest since the week ended Jan. 5, based on the median estimate 
from a Bloomberg News survey of 10 analysts. Operating rates have risen for 
four straight weeks.  
 Crude oil stockpiles probably climbed for a third week, gaining 
850,000 barrels, according to the survey. Inventories probably held 333.4 
million barrels on April 6, or 5.5 percent more than the five-year average for 
the period.  
 Brent crude oil for June settlement increased as much as 59 cents, or 
0.9 percent, to $67.84 a barrel in electronic trading on the ICE Futures 
exchange. The contract was last at $67.58 a barrel.  
 Gasoline Gains  
 Gasoline for May delivery gained 2.53 cents, or 1.2 percent, to $2.141 
a gallon in after-hours trading in New York. Gasoline reached an eight-month 
high on April 13, after refinery outages cut U.S. fuel stockpiles.  
 Gasoline inventories probably declined 1.4 million barrels last week, 
according to the survey. They fell 5.5 million barrels in the week ended April 
6 and 5 million barrels in the previous week, according to U.S. Department of 
Energy data.  
 Expressed in U.S. dollars, the price of West Texas Intermediate, the 
U.S. benchmark crude, has fallen about 9 percent in the last 12 months. Oil has 
dropped about 18 percent in euros, 19 percent in British pounds and 8 percent 
in yen.  
 The discount between Brent oil, pumped in the North Sea, and WTI 
widened to a record high this month as stockpiles at Cushing, Oklahoma, where 
the U.S. crude is priced, rose to near capacity.  
 ``Prices will normalize in three to four months'' when refineries 
start taking more crude from Cushing, said Tobias Merath, a commodity 
strategist at Credit Suisse Group in Zurich.  
 Pipeline Shuts Down  
 Enbridge, the owner of Canada's largest oil pipeline, yesterday shut 
down its Line 3 pipeline, which ships oil to U.S. refineries from Edmonton, 
Alberta. A leak discovered late yesterday near Glenavon, Saskatchewan, led to 
the closing, spokeswoman Jennifer Varey said.  
 The Calgary-based company is still moving oil into other lines, which 
can carry 490,000 barrels a day of oil, from Manitoba for delivery at Superior, 
Wisconsin, she said.  
 The partial shutdown ``could offer a marginal support for WTI crude 
prices,'' Mark Bloomfield, a London-based analyst at Citigroup Global Markets 
Ltd., wrote today in a report.  
 Nigerian Production Resumes  
 Royal Dutch Shell Plc will probably resume oil production from the 
western Niger Delta by the end of the month. Nigeria, Africa's largest 
producer, has lost about a quarter of its output for more than a year because 
of militant attacks. Some analysts expect disruption to continue after 
presidential elections on April 21.  
 Shell's Nigerian venture will open most of the platforms and the 
Forcados export terminal, allowing about 500,000 barrels of oil output a day to 
resume, said an official at the state-run Nigerian National Petroleum Corp., 
who declined to be identified.  
 The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, which supplies 
about two-fifths of the world's oil, yesterday said a drop in U.S. gasoline 
stockpiles was pushing up oil prices and pumping more crude wouldn't help lower 
them.  
 OPEC President and the United Arab 

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BRPT dan PNLF-W

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q
Utk sementara memang sampeyan kelihatan kurang BEJO di kedua saham 
ini Kang...
Saya merasa prihatin kalau ikut andil menjerumuskan ke sana.
Yg jelas selama ini anginnya sedang tdk berpihak ke sana.

Utk BRPT saat ini saya lihat ada SOPIR yg sedang bergerilya di sana.
Ini duit pindahan (switching) dr mana saya tahu.
Maaf saat ini saya sulit utk bicara VULGAR, tahu sendiri akibatnya 
kalau buka2-an bisa MASUK ANGIN.
Salah satunya yah di BRPT ini.
Yg jelas ada GAJAH yg NYANGKUT di average 850-an belum bisa keluar.
Utk proses gerilya ini sangat RELATIF, karena TBLA saja ternyata saya 
perhatikan membutuhkan wkt hampir 1 BULAN.
Hingga bisa MELAJU seperti skrg...

Utk PNLF-W atau Panin groups, ini terkait dg banking terutama PNBN-
nya.
Khan kemarin2 ini sedang BEARISH scr SEKTORAL.
Sulit utk PNLF apalagi PNLF-W bergerak sendirian tanpa MEMBONCENG 
pergerakan PNBN.
Beberapa saat lalu memang SOPIRnya JUALAN BUANYAKKK PNLF mulai 180-
190.
Akibatnya tahu sendiri kalau saham sdh tdk ada yg menyopiri...

Nah sekarang PNBN khan sdh mulai ON.
Utk PNBN-W saat ini setahu saya sdh ada sopirnya, tapi utk PNLF-W 
masih pasar yg bermain.
Kelihatan tdk ada keterkaitan yg SIGNIFIKAN dg pergerakan INDUKnya.
Antrian bid offer juga masih kurus2.

Secara fundamental saya bilang BRPT masih kategori spekulatif 
demikian PNLF. 
Byk org tahu Panin groups BD-nya PAHIT, kalau BRPT sopirnya adalah 
SUPER TA.
Utk average down sebaiknya dananya dialokasikan utk saham yg sedang 
BERGERAK lainnya.
Utk cut loss sulit utk komentar, kalau  saya akan cut loss kalau DOWN 
sekitar 3% dari entry point.

Bicara PNBN (Panin Groups) ini adalah saham BANK yg PALING LELET
Walaupun secara PBV SANGAT MENARIK
Semoga KALI INI perjalanannya akan SERIUS utk menembus level 700-an.
Sehingga bisa menggeret PNLF sekalian PNLF-W nya.
Karena PNLF adlh saham yg BERPELUANG BESAR mengikuti rekan2nya (KIJA, 
BNBR, CPRO) utk MENCAPAI level psikologis 200.

Pesen saya kalau sampeyan nggak suka nongkrong di TERMINAL lebih 
baik trading sebagai TA Trader. Jauh lebih AMAN dan NYAMAN
Daripada karena kelakuan para gajah byk trader yg disulap menjadi 
monyet yg BERGELAYUTAN di ATAS POHON.
Hehehe
Maklum skrg BOZZ ada dimana-mana, para senior aja byk yg TIARAP.
Bentar lagi daerah gerilyawan juga akan DISUSUPI...

Semoga penjelasan ini cukup membantu sampeyan mengambil keputusan...

Salam

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, bejo joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Pak oen, numpang tanya donk..

   dulu kan pernah bilang klo saham pilihannya tuh salah satunya 
BRPT dan PNLF-W...
   skrg kog malah memble yah.. saya pegang saham itu nih, kog malah 
turun, yg laen naek, eh itu turun semua..

   fundamentally gmn yah pak ??
   ato lebih baik average down ato cut loss aja ?
   thx before..

   Johannes 
  
 
 

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[obrolan-bandar] Metals - Copper softens on profit-taking as tin hits 18-yr high

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Joe Grunk
Metals - Copper softens on profit-taking as tin hits 18-yr high
 Tuesday, April 17, 2007  11:24:30 AM 
http://www.afxpress.com


 LONDON (Thomson Financial) - Copper prices softened as investors took profits 
after last night's gains in Asia, and on hopes that supply disruptions caused 
by industrial action at the world's second largest copper mine in Indonesia 
will be less dramatic than expected. Rumours that demand from China, the 
world's largest importer of the metal, is set to flag also held prices down, 
analysts said. Copper has been closing weak in London every evening, then 
being bid up in Shanghai overnight. We're seeing the market selling into that 
strength, noted John Kemp, an analyst at Sempra Metals. At 12.03 am, copper 
for three-month delivery stood at 7,725 usd per tonne, against 7,730 usd at the 
close yesterday

 The metal has pushed higher in recent days on expectations of industrial 
unrest at the Grasberg mine in Indonesia, operated by the US' Freeport-McMoran 
Copper  Gold Inc. Investors fear the strike could further tighten supply of 
the metal. Talks between Freeport-McMoran's Indonesian arm and workers at the 
mine today failed to avert industrial action planned for tomorrow, heightening 
already elevated supply fears. However, investors are hoping supply disruptions 
from the rally will not be as dramatic as originally feared. Meanwhile, 
analysts doubt the high levels of demand seen from China this year -- with 
imports of the metal hitting record levels in March -- are sustainable at 
current prices. What China is prepared to buy at 5,000-6,000 usd is very 
different from what it is prepared to buy at 8,000 usd, said David Thurtell, 
an analyst at BNP Paribas. The market is now awaiting fresh direction before 
pushing higher, analysts said. Certainly the market is in a bullish
 frame of mind, but it needs some positive news to give it momentum, said 
Kemp. In the longer term, analysts still see base metals well supported, with 
supply remaining tight across the complex and better-than-expected economic 
data from the US helping shore up demand expectations. The Commonwealth Bank of 
Australia said it has hiked its near-term forecast for copper, nickel and lead, 
citing tightness of supply and saying the booming economy has led to an 
unexpected durability in the buoyancy of metals prices

 We have always believed that the strong economic environment would support 
metals prices at a very high level by historical standards, but have been wary 
about how long the extraordinarily high prices for copper, nickel and lead in 
particular could be sustained, the bank said. However, the simple fact is 
that metals prices have been at higher levels for longer than we anticipated, 
it added. The strength of the global economy should ensure demand continues to 
hold up, the bank said, while supply remains tight among the base metals

 Meanwhile, tin reached an 18-year high of 14,680 usd, before falling back to 
trade at 14,600 usd, supported by strong fundamentals and continuing concerns 
over supply from Indonesia, the world's largest exporter of the metal. The 
market is very tight and stocks have been declining since the beginning of the 
year, noted analyst Perrine Faye of BaseMetals.com

 Among other metals, nickel was at 46,700 usd, up from 46,200 usd, while zinc 
was at 3,522 from 3,500. Aluminium dipped to 2,820 usd against 2,822 usd 
yesterday, and lead fell to 1,985 usd from 2,005 usd

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[obrolan-bandar] Metals - LME inventory data (Tuesday)

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Joe Grunk
Metals - LME inventory data (Tuesday)
 Tuesday, April 17, 2007  8:30:28 AM 


  LONDON (AFX) -  London Metal Exchange inventory as of 
Tuesday, Apr 17:
  Copper down 2,575 tonnes at 172,025 tonnes  Lead   up 
1,600 tonnes   at 37,800 tonnes  Nickel down 252 tonnes 
  at 4,020 tonnes  Aluminium  up 5,325 tonnes   at 809,700 tonnes  
Tindown 85 tonnesat 8,755 tonnes  Zinc   down 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI UNSP TBLA LSIP Re: mari berkebun

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Josia
hehehehe...yang penting hati2 aja pak. Takut buahnya ga hanya busuk tapi 
ber-ulat.

  - Original Message - 
  From: helmi setiawan 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:57 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] AALI UNSP TBLA LSIP Re: mari berkebun


  aneh ya pak Jos, 3/4 hari berkebun Di BEJ udah bisa metik buah, cuma
  seringkali salah tanem, jadi buahnya busuk2.. mungkin kurang pupuk.

  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, helmi setiawan
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Ke empatnya hari ini udah mulai berbuah pak, jangan dipanen dulu,
   siapa tau buahnya ranum2 dalam 2/3 hari ini.
   
   mungkin musim karena musim hujan ya pak..
   
   
   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Josia josia@ wrote:
   
AALI
UNSP
TBLA
LSIP
   
  



   


[obrolan-bandar] Palm Oil Futures Decline on Concerns Recent Rally Was Overdone

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Joe Grunk
Palm Oil Futures Decline on Concerns Recent Rally Was Overdone   
 By Feiwen Rong
April 17 (Bloomberg) -- Palm 
oil futures declined as some investors sold the commodity on concerns that the 
rally to the highest in more than eight years yesterday was overdone.  
 Palm oil futures rose 7.2 percent in the two weeks before today as 
Malaysia, the world's largest producer of the tropical oil, reported 
unexpectedly strong growth in exports this month.  
 ``Some investors are taking profit this morning because the rally was 
too fast,'' said Stefanus Darmagiri, an analyst at UOB Kay Hian Securities in 
Jakarta.  
 Malaysia may have exported 642,492 tons to 666,793 tons of palm oil in 
April 1-15 period, according to estimates from two independent cargo surveyors. 
That's an increase of as much as 47 percent from the year-earlier month.
  
 Palm oil for July delivery, the most active contract, fell as much as 
31 ringgit, or 1.4 percent, to 2,219 ringgit ($646) a ton on the Malaysia 
Derivatives Exchange. Yesterday, the most active contract for June delivery 
peaked at 2,307 ringgit, the highest since Dec. 1, 1998, when it touched 2,311 
ringgit.  
 Palm oil futures also fell because prices of the competing vegetable 
oil made from soybeans declined yesterday, reducing appeal of the cheaper palm 
oil.  
 Soybean oil for July delivery was little changed at 33.37 cents a 
pound at 11:35 a.m. Singapore time. Soybean oil futures have gained 34 percent 
in the past six months, while palm oil has soared 42 percent.  
 Indonesia and Malaysia, the world's biggest producer of the palm oil, 
account for about 85 percent of production worldwide.  
 To contact the reporter on this story: Feiwen Rong in Singapore at 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
   Last Updated: April 17, 2007  00:15 EDT
   
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[obrolan-bandar] LME Tin Hits Record High Of $14,700/Ton;Fund,Consumer Buying

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Herman
(MORE TO FOLLOW) Dow Jones Newswires

April 17, 2007 09:12 ET (13:12 GMT)

LONDON (Dow Jones)--London Metal Exchange three-month tin jumped to a
fresh record high of $14,700 a metric ton on consumer and fund buying
amid thin market conditions, according to market participants Tuesday. 

Liquidity is very thin so it's easy for prices to jump around, said a
London-based broker. Small amounts of consumer buying as well as
spillover fund buying across the LME base metals complex have helped
lift tin prices, the broker added. 

LME tin prices have climbed roughly 12% since hitting a low of $13,100
on March 29, and have climbed roughly 28% from the start of 2007. At
roughly the same time, LME tin inventories are down 10% since the start
of April and down 32% since the start of 2007. 


(MORE TO FOLLOW) Dow Jones Newswires

April 17, 2007 09:16 ET (13:16 GMT)

Tin prices look steady on the charts and $15,000 is the next upside
target, said Edward Meir of Man Financial in New York, who adds that
$14,000/ton is good support for the metal. 

Ongoing supply concerns in Indonesia continue to underpin prices and
conflicting reports out of the region add to market uncertainty and
volatile, higher prices. 

The Southeast Asian country produces roughly 120,000 tons of tin each
year, around one third of global supply. 

Last October, Indonesia closed dozens of small-scale smelters that
together produced about half the country's annual tin output on
allegations they were purchasing tin ore illegally, damaging the
environment and evading taxes. 

Meanwhile, PT Yinchenindo Mining Industry, or PTYMI, said on Friday it
had been granted a tin export license by the Ministry of Trade,
according to tin industry specialist ITRI, who received the announcement
directly from the company. 

However, there has been no confirmation from Indonesia's Ministry of
Trade. 

The market has largely ignored the news with traders saying they want to
see evidence that substantial amounts of tin have been able to leave
Indonesia. 

State-controlled PT Timah Tbk. was granted an export license in late
February. 


(MORE TO FOLLOW) Dow Jones Newswires

April 17, 2007 09:31 ET (13:31 GMT)



[obrolan-bandar] Reminder: anda benar, cuan gak dibagi... anda salah, dimaki-maki...

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik boyz

makin lucu aja milis ini 
tapi baca postingan2 akhir ini bikin pusing juga.

gak usah lah saling ngotot di milis 

apa sih yg dibanggakan kalau pendapat anda KEBETULAN benar?
paling cuma dapat ucapan THANKS... memangnya anda kebagian CUAN?

So... ngapain ngotot mempertahankan pendapat ???
kalau ada yg percaya, sukur  kalau pada gak percaya ya sudah ...
Gitu aja kok repot ...

terkadang sempat terpikir ...
ngapain sih pada BERANTEM di milis ?
hidupnya KURANG BAHAGIA barangkali ?
atau juga banyak memendam KEKECEWAAN hidup dan akibat KERUGIAN di market.
tapi gak berani pelampiasan FACE TO FACE ke orang lain.
jadinya PELAMPIASAN disini  (kan gak kelihatan orangnya).

saya jadi ingat kata2 bijak dari Victor Sperandeo
Famously known as Wall Street's Trader Vic
*The key to trading success is emotional discipline.
If intelligence were the key, there would be a lot more people making 
money trading*



ambil kesimpulan masing-masing deh ...

kalau kesimpulan saya pribadi sih ...

Percuma punya IQ tinggi
kalau gak bisa kontrol emosi ...
sama aja kayak mobil ferrari
tapi gak punya rem buat berhenti

NOTE:
gak bermaksud menunjuk ke salah satu person disini
jadi, mohon maaf kalau ada yang tersinggung dan gak suka hati...

kalo gak suka kan tinggal di delete ... gitu aja kok repottt !!!
hehehe... 8-)






Re: [obrolan-bandar] LME Tin Hits Record High Of $14,700/Ton;Fund,Consumer Buying

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Shamjul
Then besok beli TINS mungkin abis koreksi


  - Original Message - 
  From: Herman 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:37 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] LME Tin Hits Record High Of 
$14,700/Ton;Fund,Consumer Buying


  (MORE TO FOLLOW) Dow Jones Newswires

  April 17, 2007 09:12 ET (13:12 GMT)

  LONDON (Dow Jones)--London Metal Exchange three-month tin jumped to a
  fresh record high of $14,700 a metric ton on consumer and fund buying
  amid thin market conditions, according to market participants Tuesday. 

  Liquidity is very thin so it's easy for prices to jump around, said a
  London-based broker. Small amounts of consumer buying as well as
  spillover fund buying across the LME base metals complex have helped
  lift tin prices, the broker added. 

  LME tin prices have climbed roughly 12% since hitting a low of $13,100
  on March 29, and have climbed roughly 28% from the start of 2007. At
  roughly the same time, LME tin inventories are down 10% since the start
  of April and down 32% since the start of 2007. 


  (MORE TO FOLLOW) Dow Jones Newswires

  April 17, 2007 09:16 ET (13:16 GMT)

  Tin prices look steady on the charts and $15,000 is the next upside
  target, said Edward Meir of Man Financial in New York, who adds that
  $14,000/ton is good support for the metal. 

  Ongoing supply concerns in Indonesia continue to underpin prices and
  conflicting reports out of the region add to market uncertainty and
  volatile, higher prices. 

  The Southeast Asian country produces roughly 120,000 tons of tin each
  year, around one third of global supply. 

  Last October, Indonesia closed dozens of small-scale smelters that
  together produced about half the country's annual tin output on
  allegations they were purchasing tin ore illegally, damaging the
  environment and evading taxes. 

  Meanwhile, PT Yinchenindo Mining Industry, or PTYMI, said on Friday it
  had been granted a tin export license by the Ministry of Trade,
  according to tin industry specialist ITRI, who received the announcement
  directly from the company. 

  However, there has been no confirmation from Indonesia's Ministry of
  Trade. 

  The market has largely ignored the news with traders saying they want to
  see evidence that substantial amounts of tin have been able to leave
  Indonesia. 

  State-controlled PT Timah Tbk. was granted an export license in late
  February. 


  (MORE TO FOLLOW) Dow Jones Newswires

  April 17, 2007 09:31 ET (13:31 GMT)



   

Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO: Perkiraan Tahun 2007

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Ardiat P. Purna

INCO dalam minggu ini ada roadshow ke New York, Boston, Singapore, Hongkong,
difasilitasi oleh Merrill Lynch, di depan komunitas investor. Bahan
presentasinya bisa dicari di web site INCO. ML itu salah satu bozz INCO.
Mungkin perlu dibaca dulu pemaparan INCO, tentang kinerja 2006, current
condition, outlook 2007, dsb. Mudah-mudahan bozz aliran contrarian, di saat
orang berpikir beli, bozz mikir jual. Selamat menampung di harga 51,500.


On 4/17/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  saya nampung di 51500 saja dech, disitu ada angin mungkin bozz mau nutup
angin dulu. ayo bozz hajar teruzz kalu sampe di bawah 51500 boleh juga, udah
siapin ember gede buat nampung. he
regards

On 4/17/07, Ari [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

   SETUJU !!! Silahkan Yg mau ngesot, yg mau profit taking. Yg mau
 nampung. marilah kita bersatu di akhir bulan ini, ber joget di acara dangdut
 INCO ria.

 -Original Message-
 From: Irwan Ariston Napitupulu [EMAIL PROTECTED]rupiah2500%40hotmail.com
 
 Sent: 4/17/07 3:49:00 PM
 To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] saham%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]saham%40yahoogroups.com
 
 Subject: [saham] Re: INCO: Perkiraan Tahun 2007
 Saya juga berharap INCO dibawa turun lagi ke 58000-6
 oleh para BD. Semuanya jadi sama2 senang...:)
 Yang mau investasi bisa dapat harga murah, yang
 ngeshort di high bisa dapat untung.

 jabat erat,
 Irwan Ariston Napitupulu


 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] saham%40yahoogroups.com, James Arifin 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Dugaan saya setiap ada tulisan Bang Irwan, BD bereaksi sebaliknya
 untuk
  mengguyur market dengan barang seabrek2. Melihat pergerakan harga
 INCO hari
  terlihat ada yang keluar besar2 karena ada informasi yang diketahui
 terlebih
  dahulu. Dari DOW teori, kemarin terjadi lower high dan kita tinggal
 tunggu
  lower low maka bearish akan mulai terjadi ... keep safe trading. Time
 to
  short INCO? Sayang liquiditynya payah ... bisa short mau covernya
 susah 1/2
  mati.
 
  Regards,

 





 



Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO: Perkiraan Tahun 2007

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Ari
Hehehe
Jangankan pala 5 pala 6 siapa takut. cobain deh rasain, apalagi pas lagi 
hujan2 gini MEGANG BANGET

-Original Message-
From: Andri Wijaya[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 4/17/07 6:34:07 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO: Perkiraan Tahun 2007

saya nampung di 51500 saja dech, disitu ada angin mungkin bozz mau nutup
angin dulu. ayo bozz hajar teruzz kalu sampe di bawah 51500 boleh juga, udah
siapin ember gede buat nampung. he
regards

On 4/17/07, Ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   SETUJU !!! Silahkan Yg mau ngesot, yg mau profit taking. Yg mau nampung.
 marilah kita bersatu di akhir bulan ini, ber joget di acara dangdut INCO
 ria.

 -Original Message-
 From: Irwan Ariston Napitupulu[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]rupiah2500%40hotmail.com
 
 Sent: 4/17/07 3:49:00 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] saham%40yahoogroups.com
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] saham%40yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [saham] Re: INCO: Perkiraan Tahun 2007
 Saya juga berharap INCO dibawa turun lagi ke 58000-6
 oleh para BD. Semuanya jadi sama2 senang...:)
 Yang mau investasi bisa dapat harga murah, yang
 ngeshort di high bisa dapat untung.

 jabat erat,
 Irwan Ariston Napitupulu


 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] saham%40yahoogroups.com, James Arifin 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Dugaan saya setiap ada tulisan Bang Irwan, BD bereaksi sebaliknya untuk
  mengguyur market dengan barang seabrek2. Melihat pergerakan harga
 INCO hari
  terlihat ada yang keluar besar2 karena ada informasi yang diketahui
 terlebih
  dahulu. Dari DOW teori, kemarin terjadi lower high dan kita tinggal
 tunggu
  lower low maka bearish akan mulai terjadi ... keep safe trading. Time to
  short INCO? Sayang liquiditynya payah ... bisa short mau covernya
 susah 1/2
  mati.
 
  Regards,

 




  




Re: [obrolan-bandar] BIG PICTURE

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Johand Dimalouw
DATA GLOBAL, 17 April 2007 jam 22:10 WIB
JD
NameSymbolPrev ClsLast TradeChangeAvg Vol (3m)
-ALL ORDINARIES IDX^AORD6,183.6002:11AM ET6168.90 14.70 0.24%786,694,000
-BSE SENSEX^BSESN13,695.586:28AM ET13607.04 88.54 0.65%16,606.7
-DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE IN^DJI12,720.4611:14AM ET12770.35 49.89 
0.39%2,810,460,000
-CAC 40^FCHI5,861.9711:13AM ET5863.11 1.14 0.02%134,497,000
-FTSE 100^FTSE6,516.2011:13AM ET6504.20 12.00 0.18%1,719,700,000
-DAX^GDAXI7,338.0610:58AM ET7359.07 21.01 0.29%0
-SP 500 INDEX,RTH^GSPC1,468.4711:13AM ET1472.40 3.93 0.27%2,850,240,000
-HANG SENG INDEX^HSI20,757.535:59AM ET20788.61 31.08 0.15%1,149,040,000
-NASDAQ COMPOSITE^IXIC2,518.3311:13AM ET2519.03 0.70 0.03%2,010,010,000
-Composite Index^JKSE1,963.8226:31AM ET1965.44 1.62 0.08%282,135,000
-Kuala Lumpur Composite Index^KLSE1,322.915:02AM ET1330.26 7.35 
0.56%288,367,000
-KOSPI Composite Index^KS111,532.042:02AM ET1528.66 3.38 0.22%259,949
-NIKKEI 225^N22517,628.303:00AM ET17527.45 100.85 0.57%156,746
-NYSE COMPOSITE INDEX (NEW METHO^NYA9,625.5311:14AM ET9644.43 18.90 
0.20%2,752,390,000
-NZX 50 INDEX GROSS^NZ504,170.7081:33AM ET4177.01 6.30 0.15%28,733,400
-SP 100 INDEX,RTH^OEX672.0110:54AM ET674.40 2.39 0.36%2,850,240,000
-SP 500 INDEX,RTH^SPX1,468.4711:13AM ET1472.40 3.93 0.27%-
-SSE Composite Index^SSEC3,596.4413:00AM ET3611.87 15.43 0.43%112,547
-Straits Times Index^STI3,414.155:06AM ET3415.32 1.17 0.03%300,118,000
-TSEC weighted index^TWII8,043.541:46AM ET7959.29 84.25 1.05%3,792,070

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[obrolan-bandar] LME LATEST - Copper extends gains in PM rings, tin at new 25-year high

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Herman
LME LATEST - Copper extends gains in PM rings, tin at new 25-year high
BaseMetals.com
Copper extended gains during Tuesday afternoon trading on the LME,
rising $200 on fears of supply disruptions from the Grasberg mine in
Indonesia, while tin rose to a fresh 25-year high near $15,000 a tonne.

Copper climbed to $7,950 a tonne, up $220 or 2.8 percent from Monday,
and close to the seven-month high of $7,972.50 reached last week.

Earlier, it fell as low as $7,660 before bouncing back up on news that
workers from Freeport's Grasberg mine had called off talks with the
company over a labour dispute and said they would go ahead with a
protest rally tomorrow.

Tin advanced to $14,900, up $375 or 2.8 percent, and the highest since
January 1982. Although the supply situation in Indonesia has showed
signs of improvement in the past few weeks, the market remains tight
with a large deficit forecast for this year.

Warehouse inventories fell by 85 tonnes to 8,755 tonnes, the lowest
since October 2005 or 1-1/2 years.

Nickel rose to $47,900, up $1,700 or 3.7 percent, as stocks fell 252
tonnes to 4,020 tonnes, of which 1,362 is under cancelled warrant,
meaning less than a day of global consumption is actually available to
the market.

Zinc soared to $3,700, up $200 or 5.7 percent, and the highest since
January 26, with stocks falling another 950 tonnes to 103,700 tonnes.

BaseMetals.com
12, Camomile Street,
London EC3A 7PT
+44 (0) 20 7929 6339
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[obrolan-bandar] TIN HITS $14,680/T ON LME, NEW HIGH SINCE 1982

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Joe Grunk
TIN HITS $14,680/T ON LME, NEW HIGH SINCE 1982 BaseMetals.com

   
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[obrolan-bandar] U.S. March Core Prices Rise Less Than Forecast

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Joe Grunk
U.S. March Core Prices Rise Less Than Forecast (Update2)   
 By Joe Richter
April 17 (Bloomberg) -- A 
measure of prices paid by U.S. consumers rose less than forecast last month, 
supporting the Federal Reserve's call that inflation will subside as the 
economy slows.  
 The 0.1 percent increase in core consumer prices, which exclude food 
and energy costs, was the smallest this year and follows a 0.2 percent February 
gain, the Labor Department said today in Washington. Prices overall rose 0.6 
percent in March, led by a jump in fuel costs.  
 Less inflation may give Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke and his 
colleagues more latitude to lower interest rates to reinvigorate the economy in 
coming months, economists said. Cheaper clothing and hotel stays and a smaller 
gain in medical care costs restrained price gains last month, suggesting a 
slowing economy is starting to help alleviate price pressures.  
 ``This buys the Fed some time so they can sit tight for a little while 
longer,'' said Lindsey Piegza, a market analyst at FTN Financial in New York. 
``We're going to have to get a few more months of declining core inflation 
before the Fed can start to cut interest rates.''  
 Housing starts unexpectedly rose for a second month in March, 
bolstering expectations the worst housing slump in 15 years may be easing, a 
report from the Commerce Department showed. Builders broke ground on new homes 
at an annual rate of 1.518 million last month, an increase of 0.8 percent from 
February. Building permits, a sign of future construction, also rose 0.8 
percent.  
 Rates Fall  
 The yield on Treasury securities fell after the reports on speculation 
less inflation may give the Fed leeway to lower interest rates if necessary. 
The yield on the benchmark 10-year note fell to 4.70 percent at 8:47 a.m. in 
New York from 4.74 percent late yesterday. The dollar weakened.  
 Economists forecast consumer prices would rise 0.6 percent after a 0.4 
percent February gain, according to the median of 73 projections in a Bloomberg 
News survey. Estimates ranged from increases of 0.4 percent to 1 percent. Core 
prices were projected to rise 0.2 percent, according to the survey median.  

 Core prices were up 2.5 percent in the 12 months ended in March, the 
smallest year-over-year gain since May. Overall prices were up 2.8 percent from 
the same time last year, compared with a 2.4 percent gain in February.  
 Broadest Measure  
 The CPI is the government's broadest gauge of costs because it 
includes goods and services. Other inflation reports this week showed wholesale 
prices jumped 1 percent in March, while prices of U.S. imports rose by the most 
in almost a year.  
 Today's report showed energy prices jumped 5.9 percent, the most since 
September 2005, after a 0.9 percent increase in February. Fuel oil costs rose 
3.8 percent and natural gas prices were up 3 percent. Gasoline prices soared 11 
percent.  
 Prices at the pump for regular gasoline rose to $2.61 a gallon in 
March, the highest since early September, Energy Department figures show. 
They've risen further this month.  
 Food prices, which account for about a fifth of the CPI, increased 0.3 
percent after a 0.8 percent increase in February.  
 PepsiCo Inc., the world's second-largest soda maker, raised U.S. 
prices on Gatorade sports drinks for the first time in seven years because of 
higher distribution costs.  
 Tropicana Products, the PepsiCo unit that buys 40 percent of Florida's 
oranges, last month said the state's smallest crop in 17 years will mean higher 
costs for making juice. Tropicana and Minute Maid, owned by Atlanta-based 
Coca-Cola Co., increased retail orange-juice prices in 2006.  
 Biofuels  
 Rising demand for grain-based biofuels such as ethanol, a motor fuel 
and gasoline additive distilled mostly from corn in the U.S., have also helped 
drive up food prices, economists said.  
 Housing costs, which include some energy costs and account for 
one-third of the total consumer price index, rose 0.2 percent after increasing 
0.4 percent in February. Owner's equivalent rent, which makes up 30 percent of 
the core CPI, rose 0.3 percent for a second month. The cost of hotel stays 
dropped 2.3 percent, the biggest drop since September 2005.  
 Medical care rose 0.1 percent, the smallest gain since August 2005, 
after rising 0.5 percent. Clothing prices dropped 1 percent, the most since 
April 2001.  
 Almost 60 percent of the CPI covers prices what consumers pay for 
services ranging from medical visits to airline fares and movie tickets.
  
 The Fed's preferred 

[obrolan-bandar] Palm Oil Climbs to Highest in More Than Eight Years on Exports

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Joe Grunk

   Palm Oil Climbs to Highest 
in More Than Eight Years on Exports   
 By Feiwen Rong
April 16 (Bloomberg) -- Palm 
oil futures rose to the highest in more than eight years on concern that supply 
may lag behind demand following estimates of higher-than-expected exports from 
Malaysia, the world's largest producer of the commodity.  
 Malaysia exported 29 percent more palm oil during April 1-15 than a 
month earlier, according to estimates by independent cargo surveyor Societe 
Generale de Surveillance. A total of 642,492 metric tons of bulk palm oil 
shipments through Malaysian sea ports were tracked, compared with 496,977 tons 
of palm oil in the same period last month, SGS said.  
 ``The exports are very strong and palm oil futures are responding to 
that,'' Francis Lee, trader at Okachi (Malaysia) Sdn Bhd, said by phone from 
Kuala Lumpur today.  
 Palm oil for June delivery, the most active contract, rose as much as 
88 ringgit, or 4 percent, to 2,307 ringgit ($671) a ton on the Malaysia 
Derivatives Exchange. That's the highest since Dec. 1, 1998, when it touched 
2,311 ringgit. The contract traded at 2,270 ringgit at 5:15 p.m. local time.
  
 Earlier today, another independent cargo surveyor Intertek Malaysia 
said the country's palm oil exports rose 47 percent in April 1-15 to 666,793 
tons from 454,791 tons a month ago.  
 Lower import taxes by India, the world's second-biggest vegetable oil 
buyer, may also bolster gains in palm oil prices in Malaysia and soybean oil in 
Chicago.  
 India last week reduced import duty on edible oils for the third time 
this year to boost supplies and slow inflation.  
 India Tax  
 Import tax on crude palm oil was reduced to 50 percent from 60 
percent, while duty on refined bleached and deodorized palm oil was cut to 57.5 
percent from 67.5 percent, Hema Ambika Priya, a spokeswoman at the Central 
Board of Excise and Customs in the Finance Ministry said April 13 in New Delhi. 
 
 India imports palm oil from Malaysia and Indonesia, which produce 85 
percent of the world's supply of the tropical oil.  
 Futures prices were off their intraday high as some investors deemed 
the rally too fast, Vince Ng, an analyst at Kaf- Seagroatt and Campbell Bhd., 
said by phone from Kuala Lumpur today. Investors shouldn't read too much into 
the 15-day exports figure, Ng added.  
 ``Most of the time, when you see a strong pickup in the first half of 
the month you might see exports die down in the second half of the month,'' Ng 
said. ``These are all estimates done at the port, so timing of the shipment is 
always an issue.''  
 Exports in the first half of the month can be ``a good indication of 
how strong the exports are'', but investors still need to ``bear in mind that 
cumulative exports in the first three months are a more important indicator,'' 
Ng said.  
 Palm oil futures rose in the past six months partly because of a rally 
in the soybean oil market, Ng said. ``In the past few days palm oil has become 
stronger than soyoil and the trend might get reversed, because I don't think 
it's time for palm oil to lead soyoil yet.''  
 Soybean oil futures have gained 32 percent in the past six months, 
while palm oil has soared 45 percent.  
 To contact the reporter on this story: Feiwen Rong in Singapore at 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
   Last Updated: April 16, 2007  05:24 EDT
   
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[obrolan-bandar] BRPT dan PNLF-W

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik bejo joe
  Pak oen, numpang tanya donk..
   
  dulu kan pernah bilang klo saham pilihannya tuh salah satunya BRPT dan 
PNLF-W...
  skrg kog malah memble yah.. saya pegang saham itu nih, kog malah turun, yg 
laen naek, eh itu turun semua..
   
  fundamentally gmn yah pak ??
  ato lebih baik average down ato cut loss aja ?
  thx before..
   
  Johannes 
 


   
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[obrolan-bandar] INCO: Perkiraan Tahun 2007

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Ari
SETUJU !!! Silahkan Yg mau ngesot, yg mau profit taking.  Yg mau nampung. 
marilah kita bersatu di akhir bulan ini,  ber joget di acara dangdut INCO ria.  

-Original Message-
From: Irwan Ariston Napitupulu[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 4/17/07 3:49:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [saham] Re: INCO: Perkiraan Tahun 2007
  Saya juga berharap INCO dibawa turun lagi ke 58000-6
oleh para BD. Semuanya jadi sama2 senang...:)
Yang mau investasi bisa dapat harga murah, yang
ngeshort di high bisa dapat untung.

jabat erat,
Irwan Ariston Napitupulu


--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dugaan saya setiap ada tulisan Bang Irwan, BD bereaksi sebaliknya untuk
 mengguyur market dengan barang seabrek2. Melihat pergerakan harga
INCO hari
 terlihat ada yang keluar besar2 karena ada informasi yang diketahui
terlebih
 dahulu. Dari DOW teori, kemarin terjadi lower high dan kita tinggal
tunggu
 lower low maka bearish akan mulai terjadi ... keep safe trading. Time to
 short INCO? Sayang liquiditynya payah ... bisa short mau covernya
susah 1/2
 mati.
 
 Regards,








Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI UNSP TBLA LSIP MEGANG BGT!!!!

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Ari
Hehehe, Sektor Agri memang mooy. Time to Buy. Waktunya Pas Banget. POKOKNYA, 
MEGANG BANGET (KAYAK MIE SEDAP !!!)
 

-Original Message-
From: Iwan[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 4/17/07 4:11:30 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI UNSP TBLA  LSIP  Re: mari berkebun
  Pak Helmi, 
Kalo tak berbuah itu baru kurang pupuk, tapi kalo
berbuah tapi buah nya busuk berarti kurang peptisidanya. :D

Tapi kalo tanam sirih tapi berbuah semangka 
harus tanya sama Om Broery.

salam 
Iwan
bukan petani


- Original Message - 
From: helmi setiawan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:57 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] AALI UNSP TBLA LSIP Re: mari berkebun


 aneh ya pak Jos, 3/4 hari berkebun Di BEJ udah bisa metik buah, cuma
 seringkali salah tanem, jadi buahnya busuk2.. mungkin kurang pupuk.
 
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, helmi setiawan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ke empatnya hari ini udah mulai berbuah pak, jangan dipanen dulu,
 siapa tau buahnya ranum2 dalam 2/3 hari ini.
 
 mungkin musim karena musim hujan ya pak..
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Josia josia@ wrote:
 
  AALI
  UNSP
  TBLA
  LSIP
 

 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI UNSP TBLA LSIP MEGANG BGT!!!!

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Ari
Hehehe, Sektor Agri memang mooy. Time to Buy. Waktunya Pas Banget. POKOKNYA, 
MEGANG BANGET (KAYAK MIE SEDAP !!!)
 

-Original Message-
From: Iwan[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 4/17/07 4:11:30 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI UNSP TBLA  LSIP  Re: mari berkebun
  Pak Helmi, 
Kalo tak berbuah itu baru kurang pupuk, tapi kalo
berbuah tapi buah nya busuk berarti kurang peptisidanya. :D

Tapi kalo tanam sirih tapi berbuah semangka 
harus tanya sama Om Broery.

salam 
Iwan
bukan petani


- Original Message - 
From: helmi setiawan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:57 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] AALI UNSP TBLA LSIP Re: mari berkebun


 aneh ya pak Jos, 3/4 hari berkebun Di BEJ udah bisa metik buah, cuma
 seringkali salah tanem, jadi buahnya busuk2.. mungkin kurang pupuk.
 
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, helmi setiawan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ke empatnya hari ini udah mulai berbuah pak, jangan dipanen dulu,
 siapa tau buahnya ranum2 dalam 2/3 hari ini.
 
 mungkin musim karena musim hujan ya pak..
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Josia josia@ wrote:
 
  AALI
  UNSP
  TBLA
  LSIP
 

 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI UNSP TBLA LSIP Re: mari berkebun

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Zero Fighter

Kalau buah sawit ngak ada ulatnya, dan kalau dengan harga yang mengiurkan ini 
kayaknya ngak bakalan sempat busuk, pasti ada aja yang ngambilin berondolannya, 
mungkin termasuk kita...Well, 1400 mudah2an...
   
  Faperta UGM
  hihihi
   
  
Josia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hehehehe...yang penting hati2 aja pak. Takut buahnya ga hanya busuk 
tapi ber-ulat.
   
- Original Message - 
  From: helmi setiawan 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:57 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] AALI UNSP TBLA LSIP Re: mari berkebun
  

aneh ya pak Jos, 3/4 hari berkebun Di BEJ udah bisa metik buah, cuma
seringkali salah tanem, jadi buahnya busuk2.. mungkin kurang pupuk.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, helmi setiawan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ke empatnya hari ini udah mulai berbuah pak, jangan dipanen dulu,
 siapa tau buahnya ranum2 dalam 2/3 hari ini.
 
 mungkin musim karena musim hujan ya pak..
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Josia josia@ wrote:
 
  AALI
  UNSP
  TBLA
  LSIP
 




  

 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Reminder: anda benar, cuan gak dibagi... anda salah, dimaki-maki...

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Johand Dimalouw
Ach biarin ajalah. Justru asyiknya di situ.
Salam
JD


- Original Message 
From: boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:40:44 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Reminder: anda benar, cuan gak dibagi... anda salah, 
dimaki-maki...

makin lucu aja milis ini 
tapi baca postingan2 akhir ini bikin pusing juga.

gak usah lah saling ngotot di milis 

apa sih yg dibanggakan kalau pendapat anda KEBETULAN benar?
paling cuma dapat ucapan THANKS... memangnya anda kebagian CUAN?

So... ngapain ngotot mempertahankan pendapat ???
kalau ada yg percaya, sukur  kalau pada gak percaya ya sudah ...
Gitu aja kok repot ...

terkadang sempat terpikir ...
ngapain sih pada BERANTEM di milis ?
hidupnya KURANG BAHAGIA barangkali ?
atau juga banyak memendam KEKECEWAAN hidup dan akibat KERUGIAN di market.
tapi gak berani pelampiasan FACE TO FACE ke orang lain.
jadinya PELAMPIASAN disini  (kan gak kelihatan orangnya).

saya jadi ingat kata2 bijak dari Victor Sperandeo 
Famously known as Wall Street's Trader Vic
The key to trading success is emotional discipline.
If intelligence were the key, there would be a lot more people making money 
trading


ambil kesimpulan masing-masing deh ...

kalau kesimpulan saya pribadi sih ...

Percuma punya IQ tinggi 
kalau gak bisa kontrol emosi ...
sama aja kayak mobil ferrari
tapi gak punya rem buat berhenti

NOTE:
gak bermaksud menunjuk ke salah satu person disini
jadi, mohon maaf kalau ada yang tersinggung dan gak suka hati...

kalo gak suka kan tinggal di delete ... gitu aja kok repottt !!!
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: BTEL make a record high,buy BTEL now !!!

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik helmi setiawan
Liat2 Candlestick BTEL hari ini Bullish harami pak... Kata pak Vibi
bulish harami artinya harga biasanya naik... 

mudah2an aja banteng hamil gak jadi banteng ngamuk, hehehehe.


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wrote:

 aroun 265-270an,rgds
 
 khalid ardhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:pa busur, stop loss nya
di berapa?
 - Original Message - 
   From: budi suryono 
   To: milis aati ; Teddy Atmadja ; obrolan bandar ;
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; iwan ismail ; alvi janti ; junior ; winy
Tijono 
   Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:08 AM
   Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BTEL make a record high,buy BTEL now !!!
   
 
 Setelah sya tunggu lama di konsolidasi 260-275 an, hari ini btel
breakout ke highestnya ,a perfect moment to buy,buy BTL now!! 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: kija akhirnya tembus juga

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik helmi setiawan
Lagi nungguin kompor baru di kija, keliatannya kija udah mulai laper:P 



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Aria Bela Nusa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 KIJA ke luar dr base consolidation-nya (C  H)  akan mencoba tembus
Highest
 High (2-years) - dg nilai trx lumayan (rank 5)...
 
 Regards,
 
 Aria
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of herman ardiyanto
   Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 6:08 PM
   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [obrolan-bandar] kija akhirnya tembus juga





[obrolan-bandar] Update Harga dan Persediaan Komoditas Nikel per 17 April 2007 pukul 15:31

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa
Kalo di Bloomberg (METAL SPOT) - saya lihat harga Nickel naek2 banyak banget
+ 4.76 % (+ USD 2,200).

 

Scr charts Nickel masih berada dlm up-trendings channellings-nya - saat ini
masih akan mencoba tembus (break) kembali Highest High USD 50,000 itu dlm
waktu yg sangat mendekat ini (yg telah terjadi baru2 ini  sempet pull-back
dulu sebentar -- sangat healthy + wajar2 saja) utk melanjutkan kenaekan2nya
terus-menerus selama ini.UP, UP  AWAY

 

:) FEARS  GREEDY - WHOSE ALWAYS MAKES THOSE THE MARKET'S WORKINGS WELL -
NOW  THEN

 

Regards,

 

Aria

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Sudeswanto
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [redchips] Update Harga dan Persediaan Komoditas Nikel per 17 April
2007 pukul 15:31

 



Dear All,
Terlampir update harga komoditas nikel per 17 April 2007 pukul 15:31, dimana
mengalami peningkatan sebesar USD 300/ton;
PENTING untuk dicermati adalah persediaan dari komoditas nikel itu di LME,
yang kembali mengalami penurunan sebesar 252 ton menjadi 4.020 ton; dimana
persediaan yang ada di LME ini tidak mencukup kebutuhan 1 hari dari konsumsi
dunia sehingga harga komoditas nikel akan berpeluang naik untuk mencetak
rekor tertinggi baru.

Best Regards,

SAMUEL SUDESWANTO YEUNG
(http://samsudesyang http://samsudesyang.blogs.friendster.com/sudeswanto/
.blogs.friendster.com/sudeswanto/)
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[obrolan-bandar] Record tin prices spur on other base metals

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Joe Grunk
Record tin prices spur on other base metalsBy Chris Flood 
Published: April 17 2007 11:14 | Last updated: April 17 2007 19:57

Tin prices hit a record on Tuesday while copper surged through the $8,000 a 
tonne level for the first time in eight months, encouraging a strong 
performance by other base metals.
Tin rose 2.6 per cent to $14,900 a tonne after hitting a record $15,000 in the 
session, amid continuing concern about supplies from Indonesia. Last year, the 
government in Indonesia shut down a large number of independent smelters 
operating on the tin-producing island of Bangka and it has approved only two 
export permits since then.
Copper raced 4.5 per cent higher to $8,080 a tonne amid concern that output 
could be disrupted at the giant Grasberg mine in Indonesia, which is operated 
by Freeport McMoran. Disgruntled workers were planning to hold a protest rally 
on Wednesday, demanding fairer career opportunities and better pensions. 
Grasberg is estimated to contain the world’s third largest copper reserves and 
huge gold reserves and is expected to produce 499,000 tonnes of copper this 
year.
Nickel jumped 4.5 per cent to $48,300 a tonne as support for sentiment 
continued to come from low inventory levels with just 2,658 tonnes available to 
the market, less than one-day of global consumption.
Aluminium rose 2.5 per cent to $2,892.5 a tonne while zinc leapt 5.9 per cent 
higher to $3,707.5 a tonne, helped by a fall of 950 tonnes in London Metal 
Exchange stocks.
Oil prices were volatile on Tuesday after news of a leak in a Canadian pipeline 
that supplies the US. The leak, on Sunday night, disrupted supplies to the US 
mid-West. The pipeline has a capacity of 450,000 barrels a day and is operated 
by Enbridge, a Canadian company. It declined to say how long disruption would 
last but said the pipeline was still pumping oil from terminals south of the 
leak.
Nymex May West Texas Intermediate added 41 cents at $64.02 a barrel but futures 
prices from June onwards moved lower.
Nymex June WTI traded 33 cents lower at $65.34 a barrel, which suggests traders 
do not expect supply disruption to last long.
ICE June Brent fell 47 cents to $67.78 a barrel after reports on Monday that 
Royal Dutch Shell would resume production by the end of the month at its 
380,000b/d Forcados oilfield in Nigeria, which has been closed since February 
2006. 
Militants in the Niger Delta have disrupted oil production in Nigeria, the 
world’s eighth largest exporter.
Violence erupted again at the weekend during state elections in the run-up to 
the presidential vote on April 21 amid allegations of voting rigging.
Gold edged 0.3 per cent lower to $688.50 a troy ounce. Platinum fell 0.6 per 
cent to $1,264 a troy ounce.

Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2007

   
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[obrolan-bandar] PT Timah to boost smelting capacity

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Joe Grunk
Gara2 ini, LME panik dan TIN new high.



PT Timah to boost smelting capacity   Release date: 17 Apr 2007 
  The new President Director of Indonesia’s state-controlled 
tin company PT Timah today announced plans to spend Rupiah 410 billion (US$ 45 
million) this year to expand smelting capacity and repair some of its dredge 
fleet. 
 Timah’s capital spending will include the addition of two 7,000 tpy furnaces – 
one each at its Mentok and Kundur smelters. 
 This will increase nominal smelting capacity to some 62,000 tpy, although the 
amount of metal that can be produced depends on the mix and grades of 
concentrates and slag treated in the furnaces. 

Wachid Usman, elected by shareholders today to replace previous director 
Thobrani Alwi, told reporters: “We have seen a global shortage in the past 
three months. We don't want to lose the momentum and every chance we have to 
boost sales, we will”. 
 Usman said that Timah’s production in 2007 would be AT LEAST 45,000 tonnes 
(compared to 44,689 tonnes of refined tin produced last year). 

The company also announced a 50% dividend payment from 2006 profits, which were 
boosted sharply in the fourth quarter by the closure of competing small-scale 
smelters by the authorities in early October. 

   
   
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[obrolan-bandar] Copper jumps above $8,000/mt; Other metals up

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Herman
London Metal Exchange copper jumped above the key $8,000 a metric ton
Tuesday to a seven month high, bolstering the entire base metals
complex, with further gains expected overnight, according to market
participants.
Fund and speculative buying pushed copper prices sharply higher with
market activity heating up once prices broke through $7,900/ton, said a
base metals broker in London. Moreover, a breach of the key $8,000/ton
price triggered a flurry of technical-related buying, the broker added.
LME copper jumped over 3.5% to a seven month high of $8,050/ton before
retreating to a PM kerb of $8,048/ton.
A fall in LME copper stocks by 2,575 tons Tuesday initially supported
prices. LME copper stocks have declined roughly 5% from the start of
April.
Moreover, stronger than expected U.S. housing starts figures were also
very supportive for construction-intensive copper, according to market
participants.
Housing starts increased 0.8% to a seasonally adjusted 1.518 million
annual rate, after jumping 7.6% in February. Economists were expecting a
1.6% drop in the March figure. Building permits, meanwhile, also rose
0.8% last month, against expectations of a 1.4% decline.
Meanwhile, some analysts pointed to ongoing concerns at PT Freeport
Indonesia's massive Grasberg mine as adding support to prices.
As of late Tuesday, Tongoi Papua, a labor group that lobbies on behalf
of Freeport's native employers from Papua, said it refused to hold
discussions with the company as Freeport's top management declined to
grant the group a teleconference. A major sticking point has been the
group's demands on wages and benefits.
Tongoi Papua has said it will hold a peaceful rally involving about
6,000 to 10,000 people Wednesday if its demands aren't met. The Grasberg
mine produces around 1,800 tons of copper and 9,000 troy ounces of gold
a day, but traders have said the protest isn't likely to immediately
affect production.
Nevertheless, traders said the price run-up has been driven by
speculators and not by fundamental news.
I think Chinese buyers will come in and buy copper overnight following
the strong gains in Europe, a copper analyst said.
According to Edward Meir of Man Financial, copper's next upside target
is $8,200/ton, while good support should be seen around $7,700/ton.
In other metals, zinc and nickel surged on the back of strong copper
gains. Three-month zinc jumped over 5% to a three-month high of
$3,720/ton on fund and speculative buying, while nickel jumped some 4%
to above $48,000/ton.
A jump through the 200-day moving average of $3,635/ton also triggered a
flurry of technical buying, an LME analyst said.
Funds are just beginning to get out of short positions in zinc, because
there are uncertainties of how much cheap zinc there is coming out of
China going forward, said JP Morgan analyst Michael Jansen.
Low and declining LME nickel inventories have also attracted buyers. LME
nickel stocks are down some 20% since the start of April, according to
LME data.
Meanwhile, three-month tin jumped to a fresh record high of $14,950/ton
on consumer and fund buying amid thin market conditions.
Ongoing supply concerns in Indonesia - which produces roughly one third
of global supply - continue to underpin prices.
Last October, Indonesia closed dozens of small-scale smelters that
together produced about half the country's annual tin output on
allegations they were purchasing tin ore illegally, damaging the
environment and evading taxes.
LME tin inventories are down 10% since the start of April and down 32%
since the start of 2007.
Prices in dollar a metric ton.

3 Months Metal Bid-AskChange from

 Monday PM kerb

Copper  8048.0-8049.0  Up 319

Lead2015.0-2020.0  Up 10

Zinc3719.0-3720.0  Up 219

Aluminium   2890.0-2895.0  Up 68

Nickel 48400.0-48500.0 Up 2200

Tin15000.0-15050.0 Up 475 




[obrolan-bandar] Re: PT Timah to boost smelting capacity

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik abank_trader
lha nggak kebalik, kalo supply naik harga kan harusnya turun? lagian
percuma harga timah naik kalo biaya produksi tins juga naik. kwartal 1
katanya cuman dapet propit 150 mly. bisa2 cuman jadi makanan bandar hehehe




--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Joe Grunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gara2 ini, LME panik dan TIN new high.
 
 
 
 PT Timah to boost smelting capacity   Release date:
17 Apr 2007   The new President Director of
Indonesia's state-controlled tin company PT Timah today announced
plans to spend Rupiah 410 billion (US$ 45 million) this year to expand
smelting capacity and repair some of its dredge fleet. 
  Timah's capital spending will include the addition of two 7,000 tpy
furnaces – one each at its Mentok and Kundur smelters. 
  This will increase nominal smelting capacity to some 62,000 tpy,
although the amount of metal that can be produced depends on the mix
and grades of concentrates and slag treated in the furnaces. 
 
 Wachid Usman, elected by shareholders today to replace previous
director Thobrani Alwi, told reporters: We have seen a global
shortage in the past three months. We don't want to lose the momentum
and every chance we have to boost sales, we will. 
  Usman said that Timah's production in 2007 would be AT LEAST 45,000
tonnes (compared to 44,689 tonnes of refined tin produced last year). 
 
 The company also announced a 50% dividend payment from 2006 profits,
which were boosted sharply in the fourth quarter by the closure of
competing small-scale smelters by the authorities in early October. 
 


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[obrolan-bandar] Re: PT Timah to boost smelting capacity

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik abank_trader
lha nggak kebalik, kalo supply naik harga kan harusnya turun? lagian
percuma harga timah naik kalo biaya produksi tins juga naik. Bisa2
cuman jadi makanan bandar hehehe




--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Joe Grunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gara2 ini, LME panik dan TIN new high.
 
 
 
 PT Timah to boost smelting capacity   Release date:
17 Apr 2007   The new President Director of
Indonesia's state-controlled tin company PT Timah today announced
plans to spend Rupiah 410 billion (US$ 45 million) this year to expand
smelting capacity and repair some of its dredge fleet. 
  Timah's capital spending will include the addition of two 7,000 tpy
furnaces – one each at its Mentok and Kundur smelters. 
  This will increase nominal smelting capacity to some 62,000 tpy,
although the amount of metal that can be produced depends on the mix
and grades of concentrates and slag treated in the furnaces. 
 
 Wachid Usman, elected by shareholders today to replace previous
director Thobrani Alwi, told reporters: We have seen a global
shortage in the past three months. We don't want to lose the momentum
and every chance we have to boost sales, we will. 
  Usman said that Timah's production in 2007 would be AT LEAST 45,000
tonnes (compared to 44,689 tonnes of refined tin produced last year). 
 
 The company also announced a 50% dividend payment from 2006 profits,
which were boosted sharply in the fourth quarter by the closure of
competing small-scale smelters by the authorities in early October. 
 


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[obrolan-bandar] Tin price may hit US$15,000 next month

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Joe Grunk
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April 17 2007
THE price of tin on the Malaysian market is likely to reach US$15,000 per tonne 
next month on stronger global demand amid tight supply, said dealers.

The Kuala Lumpur Tin Market (KLTM) closed at a record high today as most 
traders went on a buying spree following concerns of a supply disruption in one 
of the largest tin producers, Indonesia.

   “Tin industry workers in Indonesia are said to be planning to protest for 
higher wages,” a dealer said.

 The metal price on the KLTM rose US$240 to US$14,660 per tonne today, breaking 
the previous record of US$14,620 posted on April 10, 2007.

 “Indonesia has reduced supply and China, the largest tin producer, is unable 
to fill the gap, as the consumption in China itself is very high,” said the 
dealer.

 “Persistent demand from Japan, one of the largest industrial countries, 
contributed to the increase in the local metal price,” he added. — Bernama

   
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PT Timah to boost smelting capacity

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Johand Dimalouw
Kalau supply lebih besar dari demand, harga turun dan juga sebaliknya.  Jadi 
kalau supply naik krn demand yang naik, harga tidak turun, malahan harga bisa 
naik karena kenaikan supply lebih kecil dari kenaikan demand.
Juga kalau Supply turun dan demand turun lebih besar, maka harga bisa ikut 
turun.
Salam
JD


- Original Message 
From: abank_trader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 7:24:32 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PT Timah to boost smelting capacity

lha nggak kebalik, kalo supply naik harga kan harusnya turun? lagian
percuma harga timah naik kalo biaya produksi tins juga naik. kwartal 1
katanya cuman dapet propit 150 mly. bisa2 cuman jadi makanan bandar hehehe

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Joe Grunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote:

 Gara2 ini, LME panik dan TIN new high.
 
 
 
 PT Timah to boost smelting capacity Release date:
17 Apr 2007 The new President Director of
Indonesia's state-controlled tin company PT Timah today announced
plans to spend Rupiah 410 billion (US$ 45 million) this year to expand
smelting capacity and repair some of its dredge fleet. 
 Timah's capital spending will include the addition of two 7,000 tpy
furnaces – one each at its Mentok and Kundur smelters. 
 This will increase nominal smelting capacity to some 62,000 tpy,
although the amount of metal that can be produced depends on the mix
and grades of concentrates and slag treated in the furnaces. 
 
 Wachid Usman, elected by shareholders today to replace previous
director Thobrani Alwi, told reporters: We have seen a global
shortage in the past three months. We don't want to lose the momentum
and every chance we have to boost sales, we will. 
 Usman said that Timah's production in 2007 would be AT LEAST 45,000
tonnes (compared to 44,689 tonnes of refined tin produced last year). 
 
 The company also announced a 50% dividend payment from 2006 profits,
which were boosted sharply in the fourth quarter by the closure of
competing small-scale smelters by the authorities in early October. 
 
 
 
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] INCO: Perkiraan Tahun 2007

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik PETTER TAULAN PINULUNG
Mimpi kali yeee...

 



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ardiat P. Purna
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:23 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO: Perkiraan Tahun 2007

 

INCO dalam minggu ini ada roadshow ke New York, Boston, Singapore,
Hongkong, difasilitasi oleh Merrill Lynch, di depan komunitas investor.
Bahan presentasinya bisa dicari di web site INCO. ML itu salah satu bozz
INCO. Mungkin perlu dibaca dulu pemaparan INCO, tentang kinerja 2006,
current condition, outlook 2007, dsb. Mudah-mudahan bozz aliran
contrarian, di saat orang berpikir beli, bozz mikir jual. Selamat
menampung di harga 51,500. 

 

 

On 4/17/07, Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

saya nampung di 51500 saja dech, disitu ada angin mungkin bozz
mau nutup angin dulu. ayo bozz hajar teruzz kalu sampe di bawah 51500
boleh juga, udah siapin ember gede buat nampung. he
regards

On 4/17/07, Ari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   wrote: 

SETUJU !!! Silahkan Yg mau ngesot, yg mau profit taking. Yg mau
nampung. marilah kita bersatu di akhir bulan ini, ber joget di acara
dangdut INCO ria. 

-Original Message-
From: Irwan Ariston Napitupulu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:rupiah2500%40hotmail.com 
Sent: 4/17/07 3:49:00 PM
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:saham%40yahoogroups.com 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:saham%40yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [saham] Re: INCO: Perkiraan Tahun 2007 
Saya juga berharap INCO dibawa turun lagi ke 58000-6
oleh para BD. Semuanya jadi sama2 senang...:)
Yang mau investasi bisa dapat harga murah, yang
ngeshort di high bisa dapat untung.

jabat erat, 
Irwan Ariston Napitupulu


--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:saham%40yahoogroups.com ,
James Arifin  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dugaan saya setiap ada tulisan Bang Irwan, BD bereaksi
sebaliknya untuk
 mengguyur market dengan barang seabrek2. Melihat pergerakan
harga
INCO hari
 terlihat ada yang keluar besar2 karena ada informasi yang
diketahui 
terlebih
 dahulu. Dari DOW teori, kemarin terjadi lower high dan kita
tinggal
tunggu
 lower low maka bearish akan mulai terjadi ... keep safe
trading. Time to
 short INCO? Sayang liquiditynya payah ... bisa short mau
covernya 
susah 1/2
 mati.
 
 Regards,







 

 

 



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[obrolan-bandar] pagi ini BLTA-1950

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Dyunirsyam
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Compress you attachment !!!

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Jayamudita
Untuk mengecilkan chart, ada 2 cara :

1. Gunakan Save as HTML di MetaStock atas chart yang akan dikirim, kemudian 
pilih PNG di kanan (jangan pilih JPG), hasilnya akan ada 2 file, 1 PNG file dan 
1 HTML file, buang yang HTML dan kirim yang PNG file, chart dari hasil ini 
besarnya di bawah 50 k dan sangat jelas gambarnya.

2. Bagi rekan yang mengcopy layar (Ctrl Prt Scr), hasil copy di-paste di Adobe 
Photoshop, ganti mode-nya melalui command bar di atas, tekan image, kemudian 
pilih mode, pilih indexed color, setelah itu di-save dan pilih type 
CompuServe GIF (*.GIF) atau PNG, dengan cara ini file hanya sebesar 24K saja. 
Ukuran file tidak perlu dikecilkan, hasilnya sangat tajam. File ini kalau dalam 
RGB mode (JPG) besarnya 2.85 M karena RGB mode mengandung 64 juta warna, 
sedangkan warna yang digunakan dalam chart MetaStock tidak lebih dari 30 warna, 
indexed color mode memiliki 256 warna, jadi lebih dari cukup. 

Memang repot sedikit, tapi bagi mereka yang ingin minta saran dengan 
mengirimkan chart, bukankah seharusnya minta bantuan dengan tidak memberatkan 
orang lain, sedangkan bagi rekan yang berniat baik untuk memberi rekomendasi 
atau saran, alangkah baiknya jika kebaikan yang ditaburkan disempurnakan lagi 
dengan meringankan beban bagi mereka yang menerima kebajikan tersebut.


salam,

Tommy Jayamudita




  - Original Message - 
  From: Santo Viby 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Compress you attachment !!!



  SETUJU BANGET...


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From: Jack Cowok 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 9:06 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Compress you attachment !!!



Buat rekan-rekan yg suka kirim CHART dll..
Terimaksih atas kiriman nya.

Cuma tolong donk di kecilkan file attachmentnya.

Untuk gbr jpg, anda bisa convert sizenya ke 800x600 sudah bisa jadi 30-70KB 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO: Perkiraan Tahun 2007

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Rei
Pak James,
   
  Antm msh gimana nasibnya pak? Saya setuju 16 rb resistancenya, nggak bisa 
tembus2. Index juga sebetulnya gimana ya...Ini antara mau naik ama turun. Saya 
agak bingung...
  Trims!

James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Terus kalau sudah turun ke 51500 dan bukan mimpi kali yee .. semoga 
bung Petter berani ikutan nampung ... hehhe

  On 4/18/07, PETTER TAULAN PINULUNG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Mimpi kali yeee…
   
  
-
  
  From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On 
Behalf Of Ardiat P. Purna
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:23 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO: Perkiraan Tahun 2007

 
  INCO dalam minggu ini ada roadshow ke New York, Boston, Singapore, 
Hongkong, difasilitasi oleh Merrill Lynch, di depan komunitas investor. Bahan 
presentasinya bisa dicari di web site INCO. ML itu salah satu bozz INCO. 
Mungkin perlu dibaca dulu pemaparan INCO, tentang kinerja 2006, current 
condition, outlook 2007, dsb. Mudah-mudahan bozz aliran contrarian, di saat 
orang berpikir beli, bozz mikir jual. Selamat menampung di harga 51,500. 

 

 

On 4/17/07, Andri Wijaya  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

  saya nampung di 51500 saja dech, disitu ada angin mungkin bozz 
mau nutup angin dulu. ayo bozz hajar teruzz kalu sampe di bawah 51500 boleh 
juga, udah siapin ember gede buat nampung. he 
regards
On 4/17/07, Ari  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 
  SETUJU !!! Silahkan Yg mau ngesot, yg mau profit taking. Yg mau 
nampung. marilah kita bersatu di akhir bulan ini, ber joget di acara dangdut 
INCO ria. 

-Original Message-
From: Irwan Ariston Napitupulu [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 4/17/07 3:49:00 PM
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [saham] Re: INCO: Perkiraan Tahun 2007 
Saya juga berharap INCO dibawa turun lagi ke 58000-6
oleh para BD. Semuanya jadi sama2 senang...:)
Yang mau investasi bisa dapat harga murah, yang 
ngeshort di high bisa dapat untung.

jabat erat, 
Irwan Ariston Napitupulu


--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] , James Arifin  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dugaan saya setiap ada tulisan Bang Irwan, BD bereaksi sebaliknya untuk
 mengguyur market dengan barang seabrek2. Melihat pergerakan harga 
INCO hari
 terlihat ada yang keluar besar2 karena ada informasi yang diketahui 
terlebih
 dahulu. Dari DOW teori, kemarin terjadi lower high dan kita tinggal
tunggu
 lower low maka bearish akan mulai terjadi ... keep safe trading. Time to 
 short INCO? Sayang liquiditynya payah ... bisa short mau covernya 
susah 1/2
 mati.
 
 Regards,











   





   





  
  


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO: Perkiraan Tahun 2007

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Andri Wijaya

supaya nggak mimpi kalau jadi benaran, udah siapin ember yang gede belom,
udah siap nampung belum?
index kalau saya lihat koreksi dulu, kalau nggak seperti bulan mei 2006 yach
bulan januari 2007 kemaren
regards

On 4/18/07, James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Terus kalau sudah turun ke 51500 dan bukan mimpi kali yee .. semoga bung
Petter berani ikutan nampung ... hehhe

On 4/18/07, PETTER TAULAN PINULUNG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mimpi kali yeee…


  --

 *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *On Behalf Of *Ardiat P. Purna
 *Sent:* Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:23 PM
 *To: * obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO: Perkiraan Tahun 2007



 INCO dalam minggu ini ada roadshow ke New York, Boston, Singapore,
 Hongkong, difasilitasi oleh Merrill Lynch, di depan komunitas investor.
 Bahan presentasinya bisa dicari di web site INCO. ML itu salah satu bozz
 INCO. Mungkin perlu dibaca dulu pemaparan INCO, tentang kinerja 2006,
 current condition, outlook 2007, dsb. Mudah-mudahan bozz aliran contrarian,
 di saat orang berpikir beli, bozz mikir jual. Selamat menampung di harga
 51,500.





 On 4/17/07, *Andri Wijaya*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

   saya nampung di 51500 saja dech, disitu ada angin mungkin bozz mau
 nutup angin dulu. ayo bozz hajar teruzz kalu sampe di bawah 51500 boleh
 juga, udah siapin ember gede buat nampung. he
 regards

 On 4/17/07, *Ari*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

 SETUJU !!! Silahkan Yg mau ngesot, yg mau profit taking. Yg mau nampung.
 marilah kita bersatu di akhir bulan ini, ber joget di acara dangdut INCO
 ria.

 -Original Message-
 From: Irwan Ariston Napitupulu [EMAIL PROTECTED]rupiah2500%40hotmail.com
 Sent: 4/17/07 3:49:00 PM
 To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] saham%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]saham%40yahoogroups.com
 
 Subject: [saham] Re: INCO: Perkiraan Tahun 2007
 Saya juga berharap INCO dibawa turun lagi ke 58000-6
 oleh para BD. Semuanya jadi sama2 senang...:)
 Yang mau investasi bisa dapat harga murah, yang
 ngeshort di high bisa dapat untung.

 jabat erat,
 Irwan Ariston Napitupulu


 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] saham%40yahoogroups.com, James Arifin 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Dugaan saya setiap ada tulisan Bang Irwan, BD bereaksi sebaliknya
 untuk
  mengguyur market dengan barang seabrek2. Melihat pergerakan harga
 INCO hari
  terlihat ada yang keluar besar2 karena ada informasi yang diketahui
 terlebih
  dahulu. Dari DOW teori, kemarin terjadi lower high dan kita tinggal
 tunggu
  lower low maka bearish akan mulai terjadi ... keep safe trading. Time
 to
  short INCO? Sayang liquiditynya payah ... bisa short mau covernya
 susah 1/2
  mati.
 
  Regards,

 







   --

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: pagi ini BLTA-1950

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik yunirsyam
Nggak perlu 2 hari...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dyunirsyam [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Pagi ini BLTA 1950, let we see around 2 days.
 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dividend TINS cuma Rp. 195,-

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik ALX

Cum Div 11 Mei 2007
Div. Rp. 207,-
tapi kalo jadi... ada bagian laba yang dikeluarkan dulu (dr penjualan
asset)...
sehingga mungkin yg dibagikan hanya Rp. 195,-

ALX


On 4/17/07, agus halim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Halo Pak Alex,

Kalo boleh tahu cum date dan ex datenya kpn??

Mohon infonya

Thanks

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[obrolan-bandar] Petunjuk TP BMRI PTBA

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Zero Fighter

Mohon petunjuk suhu-suhu, kira-kira sampai akhir april, TP bmri dan ptba 
kemana? tq
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: kija akhirnya tembus juga

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik helmi setiawan
hehehehe, akhirnya ada kiriman kompor gas, ya mudahan gak meledug
ditengah jalan.

Thx BOZZ

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lagi nungguin kompor baru di kija, keliatannya kija udah mulai laper:P 
 
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Aria Bela Nusa ariabela@
 wrote:
 
  KIJA ke luar dr base consolidation-nya (C  H)  akan mencoba tembus
 Highest
  High (2-years) - dg nilai trx lumayan (rank 5)...
  
  Regards,
  
  Aria
  
  
-Original Message-
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of herman ardiyanto
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 6:08 PM
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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] kija akhirnya tembus juga
 





[obrolan-bandar] Re: Focus: ETWA the green gem

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik jsxid
Today 18 April 2007 ETWA has break its downturn trendline in 
anticipation of significant turnaround of company profit that will be 
released by the end of April.

Let's sing the ETWA March to celebrate..

Naik2 ke 400, tidak tinggi sekali. Profit naik berlipat terus yuk naik 
500.

Demand naik dari Eropa. Kapasitas meningkat terus. Ayo kumpul ETWA 
sekarang. Jangan sampai menyesal. :-)



Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO: Perkiraan Tahun 2007

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik James Arifin

Buat long term investor karena target ANTM ke 25000, silakan HOLD dan beli
lagi yang banyak setiap ANTM turun ... tiap turun BUY turun lagi BUY ...

Tidak setiap hari kita mesti trading kok, kadang kala perlu jalan bareng2
ama Embah ke Hawaii menikmati duit cuan dulu.


On 4/18/07, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   Pak James,

Antm msh gimana nasibnya pak? Saya setuju 16 rb resistancenya, nggak bisa
tembus2. Index juga sebetulnya gimana ya...Ini antara mau naik ama turun.
Saya agak bingung...
Trims!

*James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 Terus kalau sudah turun ke 51500 dan bukan mimpi kali yee .. semoga bung
Petter berani ikutan nampung ... hehhe

On 4/18/07, PETTER TAULAN PINULUNG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mimpi kali yeee…

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 *On Behalf Of *Ardiat P. Purna
 *Sent:* Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:23 PM
 *To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO: Perkiraan Tahun 2007

   INCO dalam minggu ini ada roadshow ke New York, Boston, Singapore,
 Hongkong, difasilitasi oleh Merrill Lynch, di depan komunitas investor.
 Bahan presentasinya bisa dicari di web site INCO. ML itu salah satu bozz
 INCO. Mungkin perlu dibaca dulu pemaparan INCO, tentang kinerja 2006,
 current condition, outlook 2007, dsb. Mudah-mudahan bozz aliran contrarian,
 di saat orang berpikir beli, bozz mikir jual. Selamat menampung di harga
 51,500.


  On 4/17/07, *Andri Wijaya*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

   saya nampung di 51500 saja dech, disitu ada angin mungkin bozz mau
 nutup angin dulu. ayo bozz hajar teruzz kalu sampe di bawah 51500 boleh
 juga, udah siapin ember gede buat nampung. he
 regards
  On 4/17/07, *Ari*  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
   SETUJU !!! Silahkan Yg mau ngesot, yg mau profit taking. Yg mau
 nampung. marilah kita bersatu di akhir bulan ini, ber joget di acara dangdut
 INCO ria.

 -Original Message-
 From: Irwan Ariston Napitupulu [EMAIL PROTECTED]rupiah2500%40hotmail.com
 Sent: 4/17/07 3:49:00 PM
 To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] saham%40yahoogroups.com[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]saham%40yahoogroups.com
 
 Subject: [saham] Re: INCO: Perkiraan Tahun 2007
 Saya juga berharap INCO dibawa turun lagi ke 58000-6
 oleh para BD. Semuanya jadi sama2 senang...:)
 Yang mau investasi bisa dapat harga murah, yang
 ngeshort di high bisa dapat untung.

 jabat erat,
 Irwan Ariston Napitupulu


 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] saham%40yahoogroups.com, James Arifin 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Dugaan saya setiap ada tulisan Bang Irwan, BD bereaksi sebaliknya
 untuk
  mengguyur market dengan barang seabrek2. Melihat pergerakan harga
 INCO hari
  terlihat ada yang keluar besar2 karena ada informasi yang diketahui
 terlebih
  dahulu. Dari DOW teori, kemarin terjadi lower high dan kita tinggal
 tunggu
  lower low maka bearish akan mulai terjadi ... keep safe trading. Time
 to
  short INCO? Sayang liquiditynya payah ... bisa short mau covernya
 susah 1/2
  mati.
 
  Regards,

 






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[obrolan-bandar] Re: dow jones

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Andri Wijaya

ada yang bisa bantu open .dji di yahoo untuk data semalam kenapa 12179,
mustinya berapa?


thanx



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: dow jones

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Johand Dimalouw
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- Original Message 
From: Andri Wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 10:27:50 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: dow jones

ada yang bisa bantu open .dji di yahoo untuk data semalam kenapa 12179, 
mustinya berapa?

thanx





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Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO: Perkiraan Tahun 2007

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Rei
Iya sepertinya gitu yah...ok lah pak. Kita tunggu warning dari Mbah soal JSX. 
Kalo Mbah belum balik, kemungkinan besar masih aman... 
  Saya memang hold antm  inco buat tabungan... Thanks!

James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Buat long term investor karena target ANTM ke 25000, silakan HOLD 
dan beli lagi yang banyak setiap ANTM turun ... tiap turun BUY turun lagi BUY 
...
   
  Tidak setiap hari kita mesti trading kok, kadang kala perlu jalan bareng2 ama 
Embah ke Hawaii menikmati duit cuan dulu.

 
  On 4/18/07, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Pak James,
   
  Antm msh gimana nasibnya pak? Saya setuju 16 rb resistancenya, nggak bisa 
tembus2. Index juga sebetulnya gimana ya...Ini antara mau naik ama turun. Saya 
agak bingung...
  Trims!   

James Arifin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Terus kalau sudah turun ke 51500 dan bukan mimpi kali yee .. semoga 
bung Petter berani ikutan nampung ... hehhe

  On 4/18/07, PETTER TAULAN PINULUNG [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 Mimpi kali yeee…
   
  
-
  
  From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On 
Behalf Of Ardiat P. Purna
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:23 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO: Perkiraan Tahun 2007 

 
  INCO dalam minggu ini ada roadshow ke New York, Boston, Singapore, 
Hongkong, difasilitasi oleh Merrill Lynch, di depan komunitas investor. Bahan 
presentasinya bisa dicari di web site INCO. ML itu salah satu bozz INCO. 
Mungkin perlu dibaca dulu pemaparan INCO, tentang kinerja 2006, current 
condition, outlook 2007, dsb. Mudah-mudahan bozz aliran contrarian, di saat 
orang berpikir beli, bozz mikir jual. Selamat menampung di harga 51,500. 

 

 

On 4/17/07, Andri Wijaya  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

  saya nampung di 51500 saja dech, disitu ada angin mungkin bozz 
mau nutup angin dulu. ayo bozz hajar teruzz kalu sampe di bawah 51500 boleh 
juga, udah siapin ember gede buat nampung. he 
regards
On 4/17/07, Ari  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 
  SETUJU !!! Silahkan Yg mau ngesot, yg mau profit taking. Yg mau 
nampung. marilah kita bersatu di akhir bulan ini, ber joget di acara dangdut 
INCO ria. 

-Original Message-
From: Irwan Ariston Napitupulu [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 4/17/07 3:49:00 PM
To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [saham] Re: INCO: Perkiraan Tahun 2007 
Saya juga berharap INCO dibawa turun lagi ke 58000-6
oleh para BD. Semuanya jadi sama2 senang...:)
Yang mau investasi bisa dapat harga murah, yang 
ngeshort di high bisa dapat untung.

jabat erat, 
Irwan Ariston Napitupulu


--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] , James Arifin  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dugaan saya setiap ada tulisan Bang Irwan, BD bereaksi sebaliknya untuk
 mengguyur market dengan barang seabrek2. Melihat pergerakan harga 
INCO hari
 terlihat ada yang keluar besar2 karena ada informasi yang diketahui 
terlebih
 dahulu. Dari DOW teori, kemarin terjadi lower high dan kita tinggal
tunggu
 lower low maka bearish akan mulai terjadi ... keep safe trading. Time to 
 short INCO? Sayang liquiditynya payah ... bisa short mau covernya 
susah 1/2
 mati.
 
 Regards,











   





   





  
  


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RE: [obrolan-bandar] pagi ini BLTA-1950

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik boncel66
 Pagi ini BLTA 1950, let we see around 2 days.

10:53 BLTA  = 2.010

Ada Apa dgn BLTA ? 

Berapa ya Target Price BLTA dari HD, ML, DB ?

Tolong, sharing idenya :)

TQ






[obrolan-bandar] mohon info

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik balifade
berhubung saya masih newbie, jadi saya belum bisa pake ta/fa/ba. selama 
ini cuma pake naluri he he he termasuk posisi buy/sell yg tiap menit 
berubah, patokannya sebelum trading dimulai saya feeling ke saham apa, 
dulu cnko ,trus cpro,  sekarang miti, kalo ke saham2 yg mahal belum 
berani duitnya.dan hasilnya cuan juga,walau kadang kalo short rugi hik 
hik  kalo boleh tahu saya ini termasuk pake analisa yg mana? trim 
pencerahannya regards 



[obrolan-bandar] si Ke BOZZ

2007-04-17 Terurut Topik Karno
Si Ke BOZZ pandai bikin gambar / cerita
1. Indeks dinaekin sampe 1990 atau 2000, pake gerak tepu-tepu, kemudian siram 
yang buanyak ke 1890/1900. Tidak bisa dipungkiri indeks sudah cukup tinggi. 
Investor pada nangis, BOZZ yg untung dari ngambil posisi short ketawa jahat. 
2. Indeks ditembus dengan kuat agar kepala 2 terjaga minimal sampe 2030... 
Cukup banyak trader yg sudah minggir karena phobia ketinggian
Walau bagaimanapun jika IHSG menembus ribuan baru akan menimbulkan efek 
psikologis yg bagus bagi pasar. Profit taking bisa nanti dilakukan sewaktu-waktu
Cerita bisa aja dibikin-bikin/dihembuskan ke pasar untuk menambah heboh : 
reshufle, deviden, SBI, minyak etc etc..


Kira-kira mana yang akan dipilih si BOZZ ?
Ane sudah punya perkiraan sendiri, tapi kalau diutarakan  bikin pooling di 
sini, si BOZZ  akan mempermalukan mayoritas anggota milis. (Kalo you percaya 
skenario 1,  BOZZ jalanin skenario 2, begitu juga sebaliknya)