Re: [obrolan-bandar] MASALAH TRANSFER EFEK SARIJAYA
Dari beberapa email terdahulu sudah banyak yang komplain karena nasabah yang dulu sudah bikin SPPE masih disuruh bikin lagi berdasar data hasil verifikasi yang baru. Padahal kalau omongan BAPEPAM bener, bahwa tidak ada selisih saham, mestinya ndak perlu bikin surat dua kali kayak gini... On 2/23/09, vario2009 vario2...@yahoo.com wrote: Untuk warga OB saya mau tanya disini ada nga yg disuruh buat surat kuasa transfer efek sebanyak 2 kali ? Dalam kasus saya ini, saya disuruh buat surat kuasa transfer efek sebanyak 2 kali dengan alasan surat kuasa yg terdahulu dibuat tanggalnya tdk sesuai dengan verifikasi efek yg sekarang ini sdg dilakukan. ( saya buat surat kuasa pd bulan januari pd verifikasi awal ) + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
[obrolan-bandar] Eropa bisa buka open +2%
Eropa bisa buka open +2%
Re: [obrolan-bandar] MASALAH TRANSFER EFEK SARIJAYA
bukan surat kuasa tho pak , surat permintaan pemindahan efek (SPPE), semua memang diminta untuk mengulang , alasannya sama , karena sudah beda bulan . 2009/2/23 vario2009 vario2...@yahoo.com Untuk warga OB saya mau tanya disini ada nga yg disuruh buat surat kuasa transfer efek sebanyak 2 kali ? Dalam kasus saya ini, saya disuruh buat surat kuasa transfer efek sebanyak 2 kali dengan alasan surat kuasa yg terdahulu dibuat tanggalnya tdk sesuai dengan verifikasi efek yg sekarang ini sdg dilakukan. ( saya buat surat kuasa pd bulan januari pd verifikasi awal )
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Mba Mie
Batas waktu pembelian kembali Mie akhir bulan ini Pak AA. Ga tau diperpanjang apa tdk! Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: \::Pak_AA:\: abdul.rahman.ra...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:54:35 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Mba Mie Mie yang enak yang berapaan ya Pak JT, jualan indomie gak?
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Eropa bisa buka open +2%
Di yahoo Inggris sama Jerman sudah - 3%. Ada berita apa? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote: Eropa bisa buka open +2%
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument
AYO BUM_BUM masak kalah sama TAM_TAM.. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Grunk Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:55 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; sa...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument * CLSA is bullish on gold and upgrading the price assumptions by around 25% to 27% over the next two years, with potential for short-term upside surprise. * Subsequently, we are raising our earnings forecasts for Antam by 90% to 25%. * Known to be a nickel play, gold contribution to Antam revenue could increase from 10% in 2007 to an expected 30% in 2009 while the contribution to gross profit could jump from 10% to 50% over the same period. * Impact of higher gold price over the longer run to earnings and cash flows is more subdued though, due to relatively short gold reserves life, as reflected in 25% gold contribution to our total DCF estimate. * Antam valuations, PE and EV/EBITDA, are not cheap but the counter offer the only gold exposure in town. * Risks would include stubbornly high ferronickel cost, immediate ban on nickel ore export, and higher than assumed derivative loss. * Upgrade to Outperform. With best regards, Ahmad Solihin (Olie) CLSA Indonesia , Investment Analyst Phone: +62 21 2554 8834 Mobile: +62 812 807 3656 Fax: +62 21 574 6920 ahmad.soli...@clsa.com mailto:ahmad.soli...@clsa.com CLSA CLEAN GREEN: Please consider our environment before printing this email. The content of this communication is subject to CLSA Legal and Regulatory Notices. These can be viewed at https://www.clsa.com/disclaimer.html https://www.clsa.com/disclaimer.html or sent to you upon request. Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http:/mail. promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/ Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain!
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Eropa bisa buka open +2%
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- consult...@... wrote: Eropa bisa buka open +2% DJ Future +116... Minyak 40,5
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Mba Mie
Saya gak didepan monitor hari ini pak.., kemarin sih waktu dibawah 900 sempet naksir.., cuma kepincut kelain hati..., hehe. Wah tampaknya rame ya hari ini, good lah..., mdh2an pada cuan semua.., awas, ati2 jgn keasikan..., Hehehe Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: \::Pak_AA:\: abdul.rahman.ra...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:54:35 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Mba Mie Mie yang enak yang berapaan ya Pak JT, jualan indomie gak?
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument
Lagi DIGILIR ... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Irwan Adi Triwibowo irwan...@... wrote: AYO BUM_BUM masak kalah sama TAM_TAM.. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Grunk Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:55 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; sa...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument * CLSA is bullish on gold and upgrading the price assumptions by around 25% to 27% over the next two years, with potential for short-term upside surprise. * Subsequently, we are raising our earnings forecasts for Antam by 90% to 25%. * Known to be a nickel play, gold contribution to Antam revenue could increase from 10% in 2007 to an expected 30% in 2009 while the contribution to gross profit could jump from 10% to 50% over the same period. * Impact of higher gold price over the longer run to earnings and cash flows is more subdued though, due to relatively short gold reserves life, as reflected in 25% gold contribution to our total DCF estimate. * Antam valuations, PE and EV/EBITDA, are not cheap but the counter offer the only gold exposure in town. * Risks would include stubbornly high ferronickel cost, immediate ban on nickel ore export, and higher than assumed derivative loss. * Upgrade to Outperform. With best regards, Ahmad Solihin (Olie) CLSA Indonesia , Investment Analyst Phone: +62 21 2554 8834 Mobile: +62 812 807 3656 Fax: +62 21 574 6920 ahmad.soli...@... mailto:ahmad.soli...@... CLSA CLEAN GREEN: Please consider our environment before printing this email. The content of this communication is subject to CLSA Legal and Regulatory Notices. These can be viewed at https://www.clsa.com/disclaimer.html https://www.clsa.com/disclaimer.html or sent to you upon request. Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http:/mai l. promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/ Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain!
[obrolan-bandar] Re: MASALAH TRANSFER EFEK SARIJAYA
Kepada Pak Gunawan yk dan pak Widhie,Terimakasih atas infonya. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, vario2009 vario2...@... wrote: Untuk warga OB saya mau tanya disini ada nga yg disuruh buat surat kuasa transfer efek sebanyak 2 kali ? Dalam kasus saya ini, saya disuruh buat surat kuasa transfer efek sebanyak 2 kali dengan alasan surat kuasa yg terdahulu dibuat tanggalnya tdk sesuai dengan verifikasi efek yg sekarang ini sdg dilakukan. ( saya buat surat kuasa pd bulan januari pd verifikasi awal )
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument
rasio BID:OFFER di BUMBUM makin besar nih. Hay, kamu bisa! WARNING: Kebanyakan cumi berpengaruh buruk bagi kolesterol anda! On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Irwan Adi Triwibowo irwan...@gmail.comwrote: AYO BUM_BUM masak kalah sama TAM_TAM…… -- *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Joe Grunk *Sent:* Monday, February 23, 2009 1:55 PM *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; sa...@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument - CLSA is bullish on gold and upgrading the price assumptions by around 25% to 27% over the next two years, with potential for short-term upside surprise. - Subsequently, we are raising our earnings forecasts for Antam by 90% to 25%. - Known to be a nickel play, gold contribution to Antam revenue could increase from 10% in 2007 to an expected 30% in 2009 while the contribution to gross profit could jump from 10% to 50% over the same period. - Impact of higher gold price over the longer run to earnings and cash flows is more subdued though, due to relatively short gold reserves life, as reflected in 25% gold contribution to our total DCF estimate. - Antam valuations, PE and EV/EBITDA, are not cheap but the counter offer the only gold exposure in town. - Risks would include stubbornly high ferronickel cost, immediate ban on nickel ore export, and higher than assumed derivative loss. - Upgrade to Outperform. With best regards, Ahmad Solihin (Olie) CLSA Indonesia , Investment Analyst Phone: +62 21 2554 8834 Mobile: +62 812 807 3656 Fax: +62 21 574 6920 ahmad.soli...@clsa.com * -- * *CLSA CLEAN GREEN: Please consider our environment before printing this email.* The content of this communication is subject to CLSA Legal and Regulatory Notices. These can be viewed at https://www.clsa.com/disclaimer.html or sent to you upon request. -- Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http:/mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/ Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain!
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Eropa bisa buka open +2%
Maaf, tidak minus tp plus 2%. (padahal pertamakali ngelihat minus loh) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, poetra poetra...@... wrote: Di yahoo Inggris sama Jerman sudah - 3%. Ada berita apa? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ wrote: Eropa bisa buka open +2%
[obrolan-bandar] Top Buyer Laporan Keuangan MIRA
http://202.155.2.90/Corporate_Actions/New_Info_JSX/Jenis_Informasi/01_Laporan_Keuangan/02_Soft_Copy_Laporan_Keuangan/Laporan%20Keuangan%20Tahun%202008/Triwulan%20-%20III/Mitra%20Rajasa%20(MIRA)/MIRA%20Laporan%20Keuangan%20Interim%20Sept%2008.pdf lihat di halaman 62 dokumen tersebut diatas, lihat nama-nama perusahaan di kolom sebelah kiri. lalu, buka OLT Anda, perhatikan siapa yang terus belanja sejak awal Januari. Paling gampang, lihat Top Buyer Jumat kemaren atau hari ini. Salam, Oetomo Rully Susanto A lot of people die fighting tyranny. The least I can do is vote against it. - Carl Icahn at Texaco annual meeting. Jan. 20, 1988
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument
1250 posible, tapi hati2 jebakan breakout, at this level, jangan makan dulu, kita minta BD 'buktikan' dulu kalau die serius mau jebolin resistance.., baru nanti kita bantu dorong. Hehehe.. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:59:16 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument Antm tembus juga 1200...lanjutkah? tapi pak JT sdh bilang 1250 possible ya... Selamat buat yg masuk di antm (not me...)! On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Joe Grunk joe_gr...@yahoo.com wrote: - CLSA is bullish on gold and upgrading the price assumptions by around 25% to 27% over the next two years, with potential for short-term upside surprise. - Subsequently, we are raising our earnings forecasts for Antam by 90% to 25%. - Known to be a nickel play, gold contribution to Antam revenue could increase from 10% in 2007 to an expected 30% in 2009 while the contribution to gross profit could jump from 10% to 50% over the same period. - Impact of higher gold price over the longer run to earnings and cash flows is more subdued though, due to relatively short gold reserves life, as reflected in 25% gold contribution to our total DCF estimate. - Antam valuations, PE and EV/EBITDA, are not cheap but the counter offer the only gold exposure in town. - Risks would include stubbornly high ferronickel cost, immediate ban on nickel ore export, and higher than assumed derivative loss. - Upgrade to Outperform. With best regards, Ahmad Solihin (Olie) CLSA Indonesia , Investment Analyst Phone: +62 21 2554 8834 Mobile: +62 812 807 3656 Fax: +62 21 574 6920 ahmad.soli...@clsa.com * -- * *CLSA CLEAN GREEN: Please consider our environment before printing this email.* The content of this communication is subject to CLSA Legal and Regulatory Notices. These can be viewed at https://www.clsa.com/disclaimer.html or sent to you upon request. -- Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/ Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Top Buyer Laporan Keuangan MIRA
Thanks Pak Rully, hehehe capital yah pantesan digebuk terus... --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Rully rullymainsa...@gmail.com wrote: From: Rully rullymainsa...@gmail.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] MASALAH TRANSFER EFEK SARIJAYA
Semuanya memang disuruh buat laporan verifikasi sebanyak 2 kali, pak.. saya rasa ini akal2an aja, untuk terus mengulur waktu, berharap kasus ini akan lenyap ditelan waktu. mengapa saya bisa menarik kesimpulan seperti itu? karena setelah proses kedua ini dilakukan pun, penarikan atau pemindahan efek masih belum dapat dijalankan. Memang hebat Sarijaya sebagai perusahaan penipu, tapi alangkah lebih hebat nya BAPEPAM sebagai lembaga pelindung perusahaan penipu. Hal seperti ini hanya terjadi di Indonesia lho, dimana badan pengawas malah terlibat dalam hal kriminil seperti ini.
[obrolan-bandar] Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka
Lily Wijaya Dikabarkan Jadi Tersangka Topsaham-Presdir PT Merrill Lynch Indonesia Lily Wijaya dikabarkan jadi tersangka kasus penggelapan aset-aset milik nasabah.Aset nasabah tersebut berupa saham yang dijual tanpa sepengetahuan pemiliknya. Menurut sumber kasus tersebut lily dijadikan tersangka oleh Mabes Polri atas dugaan penggelapan, pencemaran nama baik, dan perbuatan tidak menyenangkan, yang diatur dalam pasal 372, 310 dan 335 KUHP New Email names for you! Get the Email name you#39;ve always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/aa/
[obrolan-bandar] Re: MIRA Santika
biasanya sih maen diatas 500 pak..:) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Mo Cuan syarif...@... wrote: Berapakah harga yang cocok untuk MIRA secara FA ??? para jagoan Plis help dunk... biar gak nangkep golok jatoh... Thanks +++ mo cuan mau tau dong
[obrolan-bandar] Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka
Lily Wijaya Dikabarkan Jadi Tersangka Topsaham-Presdir PT Merrill Lynch Indonesia Lily Wijaya dikabarkan jadi tersangka kasus penggelapan aset-aset milik nasabah.Aset nasabah tersebut berupa saham yang dijual tanpa sepengetahuan pemiliknya. Menurut sumber kasus tersebut lily dijadikan tersangka oleh Mabes Polri atas dugaan penggelapan, pencemaran nama baik, dan perbuatan tidak menyenangkan, yang diatur dalam pasal 372, 310 dan 335 KUHP Get your new Email address! Grab the Email name you#39;ve always wanted before someone else does! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/aa/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka
Yang bener nih ??? sumber dari mana yah?
[obrolan-bandar] EL, what heat?
EL, what heat did you talking about? And what panic? Panic buying or what??... today looks like a pay day to me.., Hehehe... Arrogant huh? Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:obrolan-bandar-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: obrolan-bandar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Emas 1000, Masa ANTM Gak Isa Tembus 1200
Nyam nyam 1230 Pak JT, dah cuan belon dari mall? Pak REI? Mau ngeshort? Nurut pak JT, tunggu di level 1250, klo tembus jgn di short. Sok teu lagi de gw 2009/2/23 natali jong natali_j...@yahoo.com.sg Saya nungguin di 400 saja sembari santai makan baso tahu, --- On *Mon, 23/2/09, ::Pak_AA:: abdul.rahman.ra...@gmail.com* wrote: From: ::Pak_AA:: abdul.rahman.ra...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Emas 1000, Masa ANTM Gak Isa Tembus 1200 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 23 February, 2009, 3:22 PM FA gue bilang belon kayaknya Pa Sabar dikit. Kalau perlu tunggu 2500 seperti kata pak JT hehehe, sok tau de gw On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Kevin Hogan kvn...@gmail. comkvn...@gmail.com wrote: Kalau udah tembus 1200 boleh dicollect nih pak. Lanjut lagi terus ke 1250. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:56 PM, ::Pak_AA:: abdul.rahman. ra...@gmail. com abdul.rahman.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Dah 1200 pak JT... Ayo dorong ... udahnongol palanya dikit lagi ngeden dikit lagi On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 5:39 AM, JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@yahoo. comjsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote: Secara teknis agak berat pak, paling top 1250 lah, tp ini tergantung apakah proses akumulasi sdh selesai apa belum (which we never know), kalau sdh selesai sih pis of kek lah.., tinggal dibikin breakout aja.. Hehe Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry(R) -- *From*: \::Pak_AA:\: *Date*: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 04:43:37 +0100 *To*: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: [obrolan-bandar] Emas 1000, Masa ANTM Gak Isa Tembus 1200 Gimana pak REI, Embah, pak JT?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka
Please be carefull Cek n recheck source beritanya. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: master download download...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:01:54 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka Yang bener nih ??? sumber dari mana yah?
[obrolan-bandar] A Snap Punchliner
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka
Insiden HR ke 2 nih ehehehhe hati2 ditangkap polisi menyebar fitnah heehhehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, komaru muchtar komar200...@... wrote: Lily Wijaya Dikabarkan Jadi Tersangka Topsaham-Presdir PT Merrill Lynch Indonesia Lily Wijaya dikabarkan jadi tersangka kasus penggelapan aset-aset milik nasabah.Aset nasabah tersebut berupa saham yang dijual tanpa sepengetahuan pemiliknya. Menurut sumber kasus tersebut lily dijadikan tersangka oleh Mabes Polri atas dugaan penggelapan, pencemaran nama baik, dan perbuatan tidak menyenangkan, yang diatur dalam pasal 372, 310 dan 335 KUHP Get your new Email address! Grab the Email name you#39;ve always wanted before someone else does! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/aa/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] MASALAH TRANSFER EFEK SARIJAYA
Saya nasabah di SP Surabaya, nggak diminta 2x tuh. Saya kira yang bikin jadi ruwet itu Bapepam, kan mereka yg ngasih perintah. Sudah khas lah kelakuan birokrat memang seperti itu, kalo bisa dibikin sulit ngapain dipermudah. Bukannya saya bermaksud membela SP, tapi mereka sudah dalam posisi yang cukup sulit. Dana operasional dibekukan, sementara mereka harus terus melayani verifikasi data nasabah. Fyi, sebagian besar gaji karyawan staff SP untuk bulan ini belum dibayar lho. Gimana seandainya kita di posisi mereka? Regards, Yudizz Send from My Nokia Nseries supported by Mail for Exchange 2.0 --- original message --- From: steve ivan steve_a...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] MASALAH TRANSFER EFEK SARIJAYA Date: 23rd February 2009 Time: 3:54:28 pm Semuanya memang disuruh buat laporan verifikasi sebanyak 2 kali, pak.. saya rasa ini akal2an aja, untuk terus mengulur waktu, berharap kasus ini akan lenyap ditelan waktu. mengapa saya bisa menarik kesimpulan seperti itu? karena setelah proses kedua ini dilakukan pun, penarikan atau pemindahan efek masih belum dapat dijalankan. Memang hebat Sarijaya sebagai perusahaan penipu, tapi alangkah lebih hebat nya BAPEPAM sebagai lembaga pelindung perusahaan penipu. Hal seperti ini hanya terjadi di Indonesia lho, dimana badan pengawas malah terlibat dalam hal kriminil seperti ini.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument
Tahunya jebakan bgmn bos? Hehe... Selain volume ya bos, 1250 kita short lagi aja Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:35:53 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument 1250 posible, tapi hati2 jebakan breakout, at this level, jangan makan dulu, kita minta BD 'buktikan' dulu kalau die serius mau jebolin resistance.., baru nanti kita bantu dorong. Hehehe.. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:59:16 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument Antm tembus juga 1200...lanjutkah? tapi pak JT sdh bilang 1250 possible ya... Selamat buat yg masuk di antm (not me...)! On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Joe Grunk joe_gr...@yahoo.com wrote: - CLSA is bullish on gold and upgrading the price assumptions by around 25% to 27% over the next two years, with potential for short-term upside surprise. - Subsequently, we are raising our earnings forecasts for Antam by 90% to 25%. - Known to be a nickel play, gold contribution to Antam revenue could increase from 10% in 2007 to an expected 30% in 2009 while the contribution to gross profit could jump from 10% to 50% over the same period. - Impact of higher gold price over the longer run to earnings and cash flows is more subdued though, due to relatively short gold reserves life, as reflected in 25% gold contribution to our total DCF estimate. - Antam valuations, PE and EV/EBITDA, are not cheap but the counter offer the only gold exposure in town. - Risks would include stubbornly high ferronickel cost, immediate ban on nickel ore export, and higher than assumed derivative loss. - Upgrade to Outperform. With best regards, Ahmad Solihin (Olie) CLSA Indonesia , Investment Analyst Phone: +62 21 2554 8834 Mobile: +62 812 807 3656 Fax: +62 21 574 6920 ahmad.soli...@clsa.com * -- * *CLSA CLEAN GREEN: Please consider our environment before printing this email.* The content of this communication is subject to CLSA Legal and Regulatory Notices. These can be viewed at https://www.clsa.com/disclaimer.html or sent to you upon request. -- Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/ Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] A Snap Punchliner
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1, 275) - CLSA: The gold argument
Kayaknya - itu 'ama targetnya dg C H, rounding bottom - yah... Tahunya jebakan bgmn bos? Hehe... Selain volume ya bos, 1250 kita short lagi aja Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:35:53 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument 1250 posible, tapi hati2 jebakan breakout, at this level, jangan makan dulu, kita minta BD 'buktikan' dulu kalau die serius mau jebolin resistance.., baru nanti kita bantu dorong. Hehehe.. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:59:16 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument Antm tembus juga 1200...lanjutkah? tapi pak JT sdh bilang 1250 possible ya... Selamat buat yg masuk di antm (not me...)! On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Joe Grunk joe_gr...@yahoo.com wrote: - CLSA is bullish on gold and upgrading the price assumptions by around 25% to 27% over the next two years, with potential for short-term upside surprise. - Subsequently, we are raising our earnings forecasts for Antam by 90% to 25%. - Known to be a nickel play, gold contribution to Antam revenue could increase from 10% in 2007 to an expected 30% in 2009 while the contribution to gross profit could jump from 10% to 50% over the same period. - Impact of higher gold price over the longer run to earnings and cash flows is more subdued though, due to relatively short gold reserves life, as reflected in 25% gold contribution to our total DCF estimate. - Antam valuations, PE and EV/EBITDA, are not cheap but the counter offer the only gold exposure in town. - Risks would include stubbornly high ferronickel cost, immediate ban on nickel ore export, and higher than assumed derivative loss. - Upgrade to Outperform. With best regards, Ahmad Solihin (Olie) CLSA Indonesia , Investment Analyst Phone: +62 21 2554 8834 Mobile: +62 812 807 3656 Fax: +62 21 574 6920 ahmad.soli...@clsa.com * -- * *CLSA CLEAN GREEN: Please consider our environment before printing this email.* The content of this communication is subject to CLSA Legal and Regulatory Notices. These can be viewed at https://www.clsa.com/disclaimer.html or sent to you upon request. -- Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/ Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] A Snap Punchliner
Bro Aria, It's ALL about money. No matter how significant people regard him as a Super Human-like thing on this planet. I just DON'T think so. Market reactions are always negating his every new decision in his new occupancy. Why? Nationalizing its 1 or 2 banks WILL trigger tens, hundreds, and even thousands of financial institutions in the country. It is a saving-life scenario by betting its own HEART as its most vital body organ. Again Bro, U might be a knocker in charting, BUT if U research it back when almost all the world stock indices formed bearish wedge by the end of 08 early 2009 as well as its rebounds have been much shorter than its corrections. It obviously means that market is still down the hill. Kay bro... this is coming down to a larger scene which is economically falling into the failure of Keynesian. The cure is NOT YET FOUND. I'm convinced. Next time I'm going to explain it in clear-cut words. So bullish time = )!(@*#*$$^%#|+...@%^$#*)%_%*(_^%$# Love, Aimee
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka
Duh kalo bener nih berita..satu-satu borok tiap sekuritas mulai terkuak,..jangan-jangan hal tersebut sudah lazim dilakukan oleh seluruh sekuritas --- On Mon, 2/23/09, master download download...@gmail.com wrote: From: master download download...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 9:01 AM Yang bener nih ??? sumber dari mana yah?
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka
Sumber beritanya ga jelas nih bos. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, master download download...@... wrote: Yang bener nih ??? sumber dari mana yah?
[obrolan-bandar] indofinanz??
saya akhir2 ni susah konek indofinanz, klo rekan2 milis teu napa y? sedang gangguan? ada ga rekan2 disini yg pake indofinanz? bsa konek ga? thx 4 attn.
[obrolan-bandar] Mbah 'napa BANKING LOYO
Mbah, Regional Europ semua ijo di gerakkan oleh Banking, tp napa den BEI anteng2 wae ?? Apa buat amunisi BOZZ besok ? spt mbah bilang, super tanker yg bisa gerakin BEI ke Utara adalh Banking. Comment, pls
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka
Memang bener kok. Ini sih kasus sudah lama bener. Masak kaga tahu??? Dulunya perdata doang. ML / Lily lawan Harjani. Di SG sih Harjani sudah kalah. Sekarang baru2 ini disamping perdata, mereka mau mencoba untuk mempidanakan Lily dkk. Seru juga nih calon dirut BEJ mau dimasukin bui. Hebat juga tuh sih Burung Menurung, pas bener waktunya, buat nyingkirin lawannya buat balon dirut BEI. Kalo doi naik, ambles lah kasus short selling... Mudah2an kaga terjadi yah. -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of indeksbei3...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 4:06 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka Please be carefull Cek n recheck source beritanya. Sent from my BlackBerryR smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! _ From: master download Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:01:54 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka Yang bener nih ??? sumber dari mana yah?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka(TEMPO)
JAKARTA -- Kasus gugatan Renaissance Capital kepada PT Merrill Lynch Indonesia dan Merrill Lynch International Bank Singapore telah rampung dan akan disidangkan di Pengadilan Niaga Jakarta Pusat pada 17 Februari 2009. Dalam gugatan tersebut, pemilik Renaissance, Harjani Prem, menggugat Merrill Lynch membayar US$ 100 juta. Dalam perbincangan dengan wartawan kemarin, kuasa hukum Harjani, Otto Cornelius Kaligis, mengatakan pada 21 Januari 2009 mereka telah dipanggil oleh Pengadilan Niaga untuk memeriksa dan melengkapi berkas-berkas yang diajukan. Sekaligus mediasi, tapi gagal, ujarnya. Karena itu, tanggal persidangan pun ditetapkan. Selain menggugat perdata, mereka melaporkan secara pidana Direktur Utama Merrill Lynch Indonesia Lily Wijaya dan Managing Director Merrill Lynch International ke Markas Besar Kepolisian RI dengan tuduhan penggelapan uang dan pencemaran nama baik. Menurut Kaligis, kasus ini bermula pada 9 April 2008 dengan terbitnya lending and letter of credit facility dari Merrill Lynch International. Surat itu menyatakan Renaissance berhak menerima persetujuan kredit sebesar Sin$ 6 juta dan peningkatan kredit menjadi Sin$ 17 juta. Selanjutnya Renaissance menghubungi Private Banker Merrill Lynch Singapore untuk memakai fasilitas kredit tersebut membeli saham PT Triwira Insan Lestari yang tercatat di Bursa Efek Indonesia. Pada 20 Juni 2008, Private Banker Merrill Lynch Singapore menyetujui Renaissance menggunakan fasilitas tersebut untuk membeli 120 juta lembar saham Triwira yang saat itu nilainya Rp 1.100 per lembar. Namun, tiga hari berselang, setelah saham Triwira dibeli, Risk Management Merrill Lynch Singapore menyebutkan kredit tersebut tidak dapat digunakan membeli saham-saham dari pasar Indonesia karena tidak aman dan berisiko besar. Merrill Lynch Singapore pun meminta Renaissance membayar penuh pembelian saham Triwira senilai US$ 14,4 juta. Klien kami dan Merrill Lynch melakukan pertemuan dan disepakati penyelesaian pembelian saham Triwira, kata Kaligis. Pada 10 Juli 2008, Renaissance pun mentransfer dana US$ 2 juta ke rekening Merrill Lynch dan kembali mengirimkan dana US$ 5 juta dan US$ 8 juta. Namun, belakangan Merrill Lynch Singapore menjual saham Triwira ke pihak lain tanpa setahu Renaissance. Penjualan dilakukan pada Juli-Oktober 2008 di harga Rp 410-1.000 per lembar. Adapun Merrill Lynch dalam suratnya yang ditandatangani Head of Compliance for Merrill Lynch Global Wealth Management-Asia Pacific Region ke Bapepam pada 25 September 2008 mengakui Renaissance adalah nasabahnya sejak Januari 2008 dan mengakui Renaissance telah membeli 120 juta lembar saham Triwira. Tapi mereka menilai Renaissance tidak mampu memenuhi kewajibannya membayar dana pembelian saham Triwira. Karena itu, Merrill Lynch berupaya menutup kekurangan tersebut dari aset yang ada, tapi belakangan penjualan saham Triwira pun dihentikan. Gagal bayar inilah yang kemudian dilaporkan ke Bapepam. Sayangnya, Direktur Utama Merrill Lynch Indonesia Lily Wijaya tidak dapat diminta konfirmasinya sampai berita ini diturunkan. Panggilan telepon dan pesan pendek yang dikirim Tempo tak jua berbalas. ANTON APRIANTO | EFRI RITONGA --- On Mon, 2/23/09, conx_2003 conx_2...@yahoo.com.au wrote: From: conx_2003 conx_2...@yahoo.com.au Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 9:27 AM Insiden HR ke 2 nih ehehehhe hati2 ditangkap polisi menyebar fitnah heehhehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, komaru muchtar komar2002sg@ ... wrote: Lily Wijaya Dikabarkan Jadi Tersangka Topsaham-Presdir PT Merrill Lynch Indonesia Lily Wijaya dikabarkan jadi tersangka kasus penggelapan aset-aset milik nasabah.Aset nasabah tersebut berupa saham yang dijual tanpa sepengetahuan pemiliknya. Menurut sumber kasus tersebut lily dijadikan tersangka oleh Mabes Polri atas dugaan penggelapan, pencemaran nama baik, dan perbuatan tidak menyenangkan, yang diatur dalam pasal 372, 310 dan 335 KUHP Get your new Email address! Grab the Email name you#39;ve always wanted before someone else does! http://mail. promotions. yahoo.com/ newdomains/ aa/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka
Info dr sahabat dekat, berita tersebut tidak benar. Rgds. lov...@blackberry -Original Message- From: conx_2003 conx_2...@yahoo.com.au Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:27:24 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka Insiden HR ke 2 nih ehehehhe hati2 ditangkap polisi menyebar fitnah heehhehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, komaru muchtar komar200...@... wrote: Lily Wijaya Dikabarkan Jadi Tersangka Topsaham-Presdir PT Merrill Lynch Indonesia Lily Wijaya dikabarkan jadi tersangka kasus penggelapan aset-aset milik nasabah.Aset nasabah tersebut berupa saham yang dijual tanpa sepengetahuan pemiliknya. Menurut sumber kasus tersebut lily dijadikan tersangka oleh Mabes Polri atas dugaan penggelapan, pencemaran nama baik, dan perbuatan tidak menyenangkan, yang diatur dalam pasal 372, 310 dan 335 KUHP Get your new Email address! Grab the Email name you#39;ve always wanted before someone else does! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/aa/
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Mbah 'napa BANKING LOYO
http://www.detikfinance.com/read/2009/02/23/170608/1089218/4/dana-cadangan-risiko-fiskal-tinggal-rp-4-triliun http://www.detikfinance.com/read/2009/02/23/164525/1089197/4/ri-sudah-kumpulkan-pinjaman-bsa-us--18-miliar semoga rp kuat ... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dvc Mm investor...@... wrote: Mbah, Regional Europ semua ijo di gerakkan oleh Banking, tp napa den BEI anteng2 wae ?? Apa buat amunisi BOZZ besok ? spt mbah bilang, super tanker yg bisa gerakin BEI ke Utara adalh Banking. Comment, pls
Re: [obrolan-bandar] A Snap Punchliner
Saya punya 3 pertanyaan penting: 1. Bisa bhs Indonesia engga? Mbak Aimee kelihatan lebih cantik dan lucu kalau pakai bahasa Indonesia. 2. Kenal sama Budi Anduk? 3. Yang bener, masa engga kenal? Btw, eropa ijo royo-royo --biar engga oot. Regards, DE 2009/2/23 RATU SIMA ratus...@gmail.com Bro Aria, It's ALL about money. No matter how significant people regard him as a Super Human-like thing on this planet. I just DON'T think so. Market reactions are always negating his every new decision in his new occupancy. Why? Nationalizing its 1 or 2 banks WILL trigger tens, hundreds, and even thousands of financial institutions in the country. It is a saving-life scenario by betting its own HEART as its most vital body organ. Again Bro, U might be a knocker in charting, BUT if U research it back when almost all the world stock indices formed bearish wedge by the end of 08 early 2009 as well as its rebounds have been much shorter than its corrections. It obviously means that market is still down the hill. Kay bro... this is coming down to a larger scene which is economically falling into the failure of Keynesian. The cure is NOT YET FOUND. I'm convinced. Next time I'm going to explain it in clear-cut words. So bullish time = )!(@*#*$$^%#|+...@%^$#*)%_%*(_^%$# Love, Aimee
Re: [obrolan-bandar] A Snap Punchliner
Ini RS sepertinya ngomong mengenai dunianya sendiri, dunia yg hanya dia sendiri ngerti hehehe What's your point Aimee? Make it to the point for us to get them... On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.comwrote: Saya punya 3 pertanyaan penting: 1. Bisa bhs Indonesia engga? Mbak Aimee kelihatan lebih cantik dan lucu kalau pakai bahasa Indonesia. 2. Kenal sama Budi Anduk? 3. Yang bener, masa engga kenal? Btw, eropa ijo royo-royo --biar engga oot. Regards, DE 2009/2/23 RATU SIMA ratus...@gmail.com Bro Aria, It's ALL about money. No matter how significant people regard him as a Super Human-like thing on this planet. I just DON'T think so. Market reactions are always negating his every new decision in his new occupancy. Why? Nationalizing its 1 or 2 banks WILL trigger tens, hundreds, and even thousands of financial institutions in the country. It is a saving-life scenario by betting its own HEART as its most vital body organ. Again Bro, U might be a knocker in charting, BUT if U research it back when almost all the world stock indices formed bearish wedge by the end of 08 early 2009 as well as its rebounds have been much shorter than its corrections. It obviously means that market is still down the hill. Kay bro... this is coming down to a larger scene which is economically falling into the failure of Keynesian. The cure is NOT YET FOUND. I'm convinced. Next time I'm going to explain it in clear-cut words. So bullish time = )!(@*#*$$^%#|+...@%^$#*)%_%*(_^%$# Love, Aimee
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Emas 1000, Masa ANTM Gak Isa Tembus 1200
Congrats pak AA... Blm ngapa2in nih saya di Antm...lihat aja dulu lah...kalo gak ada feeling ngak perlu dipaksa. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 4:04 PM, ::Pak_AA:: abdul.rahman.ra...@gmail.comwrote: Nyam nyam 1230 Pak JT, dah cuan belon dari mall? Pak REI? Mau ngeshort? Nurut pak JT, tunggu di level 1250, klo tembus jgn di short. Sok teu lagi de gw 2009/2/23 natali jong natali_j...@yahoo.com.sg Saya nungguin di 400 saja sembari santai makan baso tahu, --- On *Mon, 23/2/09, ::Pak_AA:: abdul.rahman.ra...@gmail.com* wrote: From: ::Pak_AA:: abdul.rahman.ra...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Emas 1000, Masa ANTM Gak Isa Tembus 1200 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 23 February, 2009, 3:22 PM FA gue bilang belon kayaknya Pa Sabar dikit. Kalau perlu tunggu 2500 seperti kata pak JT hehehe, sok tau de gw On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Kevin Hogan kvn...@gmail. comkvn...@gmail.com wrote: Kalau udah tembus 1200 boleh dicollect nih pak. Lanjut lagi terus ke 1250. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:56 PM, ::Pak_AA:: abdul.rahman. ra...@gmail. com abdul.rahman.ra...@gmail.com wrote: Dah 1200 pak JT... Ayo dorong ... udahnongol palanya dikit lagi ngeden dikit lagi On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 5:39 AM, JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@yahoo. comjsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote: Secara teknis agak berat pak, paling top 1250 lah, tp ini tergantung apakah proses akumulasi sdh selesai apa belum (which we never know), kalau sdh selesai sih pis of kek lah.., tinggal dibikin breakout aja.. Hehe Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry(R) -- *From*: \::Pak_AA:\: *Date*: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 04:43:37 +0100 *To*: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: [obrolan-bandar] Emas 1000, Masa ANTM Gak Isa Tembus 1200 Gimana pak REI, Embah, pak JT?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] A Snap Punchliner
1. Koq lu tau si gw cantik 2. Wah katauwan de om gw 3. yeee, maksa On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.comwrote: Saya punya 3 pertanyaan penting: 1. Bisa bhs Indonesia engga? Mbak Aimee kelihatan lebih cantik dan lucu kalau pakai bahasa Indonesia. 2. Kenal sama Budi Anduk? 3. Yang bener, masa engga kenal? Btw, eropa ijo royo-royo --biar engga oot. Regards, DE 2009/2/23 RATU SIMA ratus...@gmail.com Bro Aria, It's ALL about money. No matter how significant people regard him as a Super Human-like thing on this planet. I just DON'T think so. Market reactions are always negating his every new decision in his new occupancy. Why? Nationalizing its 1 or 2 banks WILL trigger tens, hundreds, and even thousands of financial institutions in the country. It is a saving-life scenario by betting its own HEART as its most vital body organ. Again Bro, U might be a knocker in charting, BUT if U research it back when almost all the world stock indices formed bearish wedge by the end of 08 early 2009 as well as its rebounds have been much shorter than its corrections. It obviously means that market is still down the hill. Kay bro... this is coming down to a larger scene which is economically falling into the failure of Keynesian. The cure is NOT YET FOUND. I'm convinced. Next time I'm going to explain it in clear-cut words. So bullish time = )!(@*#*$$^%#|+...@%^$#*)%_%*(_^%$# Love, Aimee
Re: [obrolan-bandar] A Snap Punchliner
Waduh cowoknya marah euy.. sori ya bang. Regards, DE 2009/2/23 ::Pak_AA:: abdul.rahman.ra...@gmail.com 1. Koq lu tau si gw cantik 2. Wah katauwan de om gw 3. yeee, maksa On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com wrote: Saya punya 3 pertanyaan penting: 1. Bisa bhs Indonesia engga? Mbak Aimee kelihatan lebih cantik dan lucu kalau pakai bahasa Indonesia. 2. Kenal sama Budi Anduk? 3. Yang bener, masa engga kenal? Btw, eropa ijo royo-royo --biar engga oot. Regards, DE 2009/2/23 RATU SIMA ratus...@gmail.com Bro Aria, It's ALL about money. No matter how significant people regard him as a Super Human-like thing on this planet. I just DON'T think so. Market reactions are always negating his every new decision in his new occupancy. Why? Nationalizing its 1 or 2 banks WILL trigger tens, hundreds, and even thousands of financial institutions in the country. It is a saving-life scenario by betting its own HEART as its most vital body organ. Again Bro, U might be a knocker in charting, BUT if U research it back when almost all the world stock indices formed bearish wedge by the end of 08 early 2009 as well as its rebounds have been much shorter than its corrections. It obviously means that market is still down the hill. Kay bro... this is coming down to a larger scene which is economically falling into the failure of Keynesian. The cure is NOT YET FOUND. I'm convinced. Next time I'm going to explain it in clear-cut words. So bullish time = )!(@*#*$$^%#|+...@%^$#*)%_%*(_^%$# Love, Aimee
Re: [obrolan-bandar] A Snap Punchliner
Dear Aimee, Have several questions on these to just make it clearer: 1. Are you a player or broker or just comentator? 2. Do you have position on stock market or wait approriate timing to entry? 3. What kind of target you are aiming? To push people to sell lower, to prevent people from buying higher, to stop people to buy stock or none of above? You use very intellectual languange, like a Phd degree, so you aren't just ordinary guy. Trust me, a lot of peoples was influenced by your statement, if this is meant something for you. And I am classified as one of them. Hope you can clarify above for better understanding. Rgds, Yuta Powered by my VerryBerry® -Original Message- From: RATU SIMA ratus...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:18:01 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] A Snap Punchliner Bro Aria, It's ALL about money. No matter how significant people regard him as a Super Human-like thing on this planet. I just DON'T think so. Market reactions are always negating his every new decision in his new occupancy. Why? Nationalizing its 1 or 2 banks WILL trigger tens, hundreds, and even thousands of financial institutions in the country. It is a saving-life scenario by betting its own HEART as its most vital body organ. Again Bro, U might be a knocker in charting, BUT if U research it back when almost all the world stock indices formed bearish wedge by the end of 08 early 2009 as well as its rebounds have been much shorter than its corrections. It obviously means that market is still down the hill. Kay bro... this is coming down to a larger scene which is economically falling into the failure of Keynesian. The cure is NOT YET FOUND. I'm convinced. Next time I'm going to explain it in clear-cut words. So bullish time = )!(@*#*$$^%#|+...@%^$#*)%_%*(_^%$# Love, Aimee
Re: [obrolan-bandar] A Snap Punchliner
hehehe org gw coba menerawang kira2 jawaban Aimee kyk apa Pak DE koq tauw si? Jaringan mata2nya pak DE keren yak On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.comwrote: Waduh cowoknya marah euy.. sori ya bang. Regards, DE 2009/2/23 ::Pak_AA:: abdul.rahman.ra...@gmail.com 1. Koq lu tau si gw cantik 2. Wah katauwan de om gw 3. yeee, maksa On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com wrote: Saya punya 3 pertanyaan penting: 1. Bisa bhs Indonesia engga? Mbak Aimee kelihatan lebih cantik dan lucu kalau pakai bahasa Indonesia. 2. Kenal sama Budi Anduk? 3. Yang bener, masa engga kenal? Btw, eropa ijo royo-royo --biar engga oot. Regards, DE 2009/2/23 RATU SIMA ratus...@gmail.com Bro Aria, It's ALL about money. No matter how significant people regard him as a Super Human-like thing on this planet. I just DON'T think so. Market reactions are always negating his every new decision in his new occupancy. Why? Nationalizing its 1 or 2 banks WILL trigger tens, hundreds, and even thousands of financial institutions in the country. It is a saving-life scenario by betting its own HEART as its most vital body organ. Again Bro, U might be a knocker in charting, BUT if U research it back when almost all the world stock indices formed bearish wedge by the end of 08 early 2009 as well as its rebounds have been much shorter than its corrections. It obviously means that market is still down the hill. Kay bro... this is coming down to a larger scene which is economically falling into the failure of Keynesian. The cure is NOT YET FOUND. I'm convinced. Next time I'm going to explain it in clear-cut words. So bullish time = )!(@*#*$$^%#|+...@%^$#*)%_%*(_^%$# Love, Aimee
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Besok Siap digebukin...
Ternyata sebelum pasukan khusus dikeluarkan, yang mau ngegebukin udah ditangkep duluan ama Hansip. Kekekek... Tidak perlu ngeluarin banyak amunisi ternyata. TETAP SIAGA, serangan balasan bisa datang sewaktu2..!!! Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, y_dizz y_d...@... wrote: Besok open gap down, pasukan Detasemen Khusus Anti Bearish akan masuk, berikutnya Barisan Copet Berani Mati akan melakukan penyerangan gelombang kedua. Watchout, yang nekat mau guyur akan DITEMBAK DI TEMBAK...!!! Semuanya siapkan senjata, kita bersiap lakukan penyerangan. Tinggal tunggu komando Embah. Hemat peluru kalian, ONE SHOT ONE MAN. Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, FromBuitenzorg frombuitenzorg@ wrote: Besok beberapa sektor akan coba digebukin lagi, kecuali beberapa saham unggulan akan berupaya melawan :) Rgrds
Re: [obrolan-bandar] A Snap Punchliner
People, Let's chat on this. 1. The current greening in Europe is NOT REBOUND. It's just a premature sentiment over reaction towards Citigroup's plan to convert its so-called 'preferred shares' into 'common equity'. Please read the news. 2. This plan is 'nihilism' given the fact that even with the so-called 'preferred shares' is only valued at 1 USD now. To me, the conversion into 'common equity' is absolutely absurd. 3. Nationalization of banks is dreadfully dangerous given the fact of its quick widespreading contagion and overdosage-ness of toxic assets. 4. The cure is NOT YET FOUND means the ways to overcome economic recovery up to dates is trial and errors. Gee, I can open it up-er here but can be too much. I strongly examine Keynesians and so far as I'm concerned, before the revolution of new financial enginnering found, this crisis which has been in its toll can ONLY take longer and longer. It's a MUCH BIGGER SCHEME than this of what we've seen. 5. Cool down dudes, anyway. I'm trading what I see and YOU? Love, Aimee
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Besok Siap digebukin...
Lu juga sih ribut aje open gap down.., ane gak dapet barang dah... Kekekee Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: y_dizz y_d...@mail2web.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:20:42 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Besok Siap digebukin... Ternyata sebelum pasukan khusus dikeluarkan, yang mau ngegebukin udah ditangkep duluan ama Hansip. Kekekek... Tidak perlu ngeluarin banyak amunisi ternyata. TETAP SIAGA, serangan balasan bisa datang sewaktu2..!!! Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, y_dizz y_d...@... wrote: Besok open gap down, pasukan Detasemen Khusus Anti Bearish akan masuk, berikutnya Barisan Copet Berani Mati akan melakukan penyerangan gelombang kedua. Watchout, yang nekat mau guyur akan DITEMBAK DI TEMBAK...!!! Semuanya siapkan senjata, kita bersiap lakukan penyerangan. Tinggal tunggu komando Embah. Hemat peluru kalian, ONE SHOT ONE MAN. Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, FromBuitenzorg frombuitenzorg@ wrote: Besok beberapa sektor akan coba digebukin lagi, kecuali beberapa saham unggulan akan berupaya melawan :) Rgrds + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:obrolan-bandar-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: obrolan-bandar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] A Snap Punchliner
Emang cantik boss? Kalo gitu ane punya pertanyaan juga.., Aimee punya facebook gak? Kalo gak punya, bikin dong..., ane penasaran nih... Hehehe Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:58:46 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] A Snap Punchliner Saya punya 3 pertanyaan penting: 1. Bisa bhs Indonesia engga? Mbak Aimee kelihatan lebih cantik dan lucu kalau pakai bahasa Indonesia. 2. Kenal sama Budi Anduk? 3. Yang bener, masa engga kenal? Btw, eropa ijo royo-royo --biar engga oot. Regards, DE 2009/2/23 RATU SIMA ratus...@gmail.com Bro Aria, It's ALL about money. No matter how significant people regard him as a Super Human-like thing on this planet. I just DON'T think so. Market reactions are always negating his every new decision in his new occupancy. Why? Nationalizing its 1 or 2 banks WILL trigger tens, hundreds, and even thousands of financial institutions in the country. It is a saving-life scenario by betting its own HEART as its most vital body organ. Again Bro, U might be a knocker in charting, BUT if U research it back when almost all the world stock indices formed bearish wedge by the end of 08 early 2009 as well as its rebounds have been much shorter than its corrections. It obviously means that market is still down the hill. Kay bro... this is coming down to a larger scene which is economically falling into the failure of Keynesian. The cure is NOT YET FOUND. I'm convinced. Next time I'm going to explain it in clear-cut words. So bullish time = )!(@*#*$$^%#|+...@%^$#*)%_%*(_^%$# Love, Aimee
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka
ada beritanya di inilah.comhttp://www.inilah.com/berita/ekonomi/2009/02/23/85825/lili-widjaja-diperiksa-mabes-polri/ --- On Mon, 2/23/09, hepisa...@gmail.com hepisa...@gmail.com wrote: From: hepisa...@gmail.com hepisa...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 1:40 AM Info dr sahabat dekat, berita tersebut tidak benar. Rgds. lov...@blackberryfrom: conx_2003 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:27:24 - To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka Insiden HR ke 2 nih ehehehhe hati2 ditangkap polisi menyebar fitnah heehhehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, komaru muchtar komar2002sg@ ... wrote: Lily Wijaya Dikabarkan Jadi Tersangka Topsaham-Presdir PT Merrill Lynch Indonesia Lily Wijaya dikabarkan jadi tersangka kasus penggelapan aset-aset milik nasabah.Aset nasabah tersebut berupa saham yang dijual tanpa sepengetahuan pemiliknya. Menurut sumber kasus tersebut lily dijadikan tersangka oleh Mabes Polri atas dugaan penggelapan, pencemaran nama baik, dan perbuatan tidak menyenangkan, yang diatur dalam pasal 372, 310 dan 335 KUHP Get your new Email address! Grab the Email name you#39;ve always wanted before someone else does! http://mail. promotions. yahoo.com/ newdomains/ aa/
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka
yang ngak bener bagian mananya pak? Ini masalah TRIL udah lama, jadi boleh tolong dijelaskan bagian yg ngak bener? -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of hepisa...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 4:41 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka Info dr sahabat dekat, berita tersebut tidak benar. Rgds. lov...@blackberry _ From: conx_2003 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:27:24 - To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka Insiden HR ke 2 nih ehehehhe hati2 ditangkap polisi menyebar fitnah heehhehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, komaru muchtar komar200...@... wrote: Lily Wijaya Dikabarkan Jadi Tersangka Topsaham-Presdir PT Merrill Lynch Indonesia Lily Wijaya dikabarkan jadi tersangka kasus penggelapan aset-aset milik nasabah.Aset nasabah tersebut berupa saham yang dijual tanpa sepengetahuan pemiliknya. Menurut sumber kasus tersebut lily dijadikan tersangka oleh Mabes Polri atas dugaan penggelapan, pencemaran nama baik, dan perbuatan tidak menyenangkan, yang diatur dalam pasal 372, 310 dan 335 KUHP Get your new Email address! Grab the Email name you#39;ve always wanted before someone else does! http://mail. http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/aa/ promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/aa/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument
si baso tahu blm lg pingsan kena hANTAM hahahaha...baso tahu masak baso tahu aja loe,jgn harap antm harganya sama kaya baso tahu wakakakabtw analysers started to upgrade IDX stocks which could be a sign of bottoming process and become a valid sign for investors to jump into IDX...sooner there will be more analysers upgrading and upgrading higher stocks so better jump in before others does From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 2:09:00 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument Bentar pak, Bos BT lagi asik makan baso tahu lsampai upa nahan Antm-nya kali hahaha On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:03 PM, indeksbei3000@ gmail.com wrote: Saya nunggu di 400 ga dapet dapet nih Pak Rei :) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss... ! From: Rei Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:59:16 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument Antm tembus juga 1200...lanjutkah? tapi pak JT sdh bilang 1250 possible ya... Selamat buat yg masuk di antm (not me...)! On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Joe Grunk joe_gr...@yahoo. com wrote: * CLSA is bullish on gold and upgrading the price assumptions by around 25% to 27% over the next two years, with potential for short-term upside surprise. * Subsequently, we are raising our earnings forecasts for Antam by 90% to 25%. * Known to be a nickel play, gold contribution to Antam revenue could increase from 10% in 2007 to an expected 30% in 2009 while the contribution to gross profit could jump from 10% to 50% over the same period.. * Impact of higher gold price over the longer run to earnings and cash flows is more subdued though, due to relatively short gold reserves life, as reflected in 25% gold contribution to our total DCF estimate. * Antam valuations, PE and EV/EBITDA, are not cheap but the counter offer the only gold exposure in town. * Risks would include stubbornly high ferronickel cost, immediate ban on nickel ore export, and higher than assumed derivative loss. * Upgrade to Outperform. With best regards, Ahmad Solihin (Olie) CLSA Indonesia , Investment Analyst Phone: +62 21 2554 8834 Mobile: +62 812 807 3656 Fax: +62 21 574 6920 ahmad.solihin@ clsa.com CLSA CLEAN GREEN: Please consider our environment before printing this email. The content of this communication is subject to CLSA Legal and Regulatory Notices. These can be viewed at https://www. clsa.com/ disclaimer. html or sent to you upon request. Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] A Snap Punchliner
Dear Yuta, U sound smart. I believe U're. 1. I'm just a newbie around the corner. As a side-activity, we co-own one of leading foreign financial institutions across the world. Sometimes, when I am in good mood, travel around the world to see the reality of market condition. In my freetime I write for Reuters and Bloomberg of what's coming up in my mind. 2. We're still doing a strongly hedged-portfolio in equity with extremely tight entry and exit points. We've just taken profit from precious metals (target is at 1000 we set prior to mania euphoria). Today I declared to all our layers to cancel short-covering in oil. We dismiss our plan to purchase National Oilwell Varco stocks. Its risk doesn't equalize its reward YET. 3. I have no any AIMED TARGET. As I'm a free thinker and free independent human, I WILL ONLY speak of the real condition as the way it is. I don't take any either compliment or mockery from anyone and I don't return the same. I respect everybody's opinion here and committed to 'never attack people in person'. 4. I sometimes teach at a reputable private university in Jakarta but not too often. I spend my home time behind Balai Kartini in Kompleks PATI TNI AD Gatot Subroto. Maybe this info is NOT important, but I will post something I deem for investors to know, even if it hurts sometimes. The truth oftentimes hurt. Love, Aimee
[obrolan-bandar] Re: A Snap Punchliner...ADU ARGUMEN yg sehat...
To Aimee, Sebaiknya anda menulis dalam bahasa Indonesia saja karena isi tulisan anda sudah termasuk BERAT, apalagi kalo dalam bahasa Inggris, jadi tambah berat lagi. Mungkin kalo pake bahasa Indonesia bisa menjadi ADU ARGUMEN YG SEHAT... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Felicia Rumondor felicia_rumon...@... wrote: hihihi ngga komentar deh --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Rei highwaysta...@... wrote: From: Rei highwaysta...@... Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] A Snap Punchliner To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 11:02 AM Ini RS sepertinya ngomong mengenai dunianya sendiri, dunia yg hanya dia sendiri ngerti hehehe What's your point Aimee? Make it to the point for us to get them... On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com wrote: Saya punya 3 pertanyaan penting: Bisa bhs Indonesia engga? Mbak Aimee kelihatan lebih cantik dan lucu kalau pakai bahasa Indonesia. Kenal sama Budi Anduk? Yang bener, masa engga kenal? Btw, eropa ijo royo-royo --biar engga oot. Regards, DE 2009/2/23 RATU SIMA ratus...@gmail. com Bro Aria, It's ALL about money. No matter how significant people regard him as a Super Human-like thing on this planet. I just DON'T think so. Market reactions are always negating his every new decision in his new occupancy. Why? Nationalizing its 1 or 2 banks WILL trigger tens, hundreds, and even thousands of financial institutions in the country. It is a saving-life scenario by betting its own HEART as its most vital body organ. Again Bro, U might be a knocker in charting, BUT if U research it back when almost all the world stock indices formed bearish wedge by the end of 08 early 2009 as well as its rebounds have been much shorter than its corrections. It obviously means that market is still down the hill. Kay bro... this is coming down to a larger scene which is economically falling into the failure of Keynesian. The cure is NOT YET FOUND. I'm convinced.. Next time I'm going to explain it in clear- cut words. So bullish time = )!(@*#*$$^%#|+...@%^$#*)%_%*(_^%$# Love, Aimee
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument
Gantian. Yg kemaren jatuh dalam yg naikin indeks. Bagus juga kerja bandar. --- Pada Sen, 23/2/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id menulis: Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 23 Februari, 2009, 12:23 AM Lagi DIGILIR ... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Irwan Adi Triwibowo irwan...@... wrote: AYO BUM_BUM masak kalah sama TAM_TAM.. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Grunk Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:55 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; sa...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument * CLSA is bullish on gold and upgrading the price assumptions by around 25% to 27% over the next two years, with potential for short-term upside surprise. * Subsequently, we are raising our earnings forecasts for Antam by 90% to 25%. * Known to be a nickel play, gold contribution to Antam revenue could increase from 10% in 2007 to an expected 30% in 2009 while the contribution to gross profit could jump from 10% to 50% over the same period. * Impact of higher gold price over the longer run to earnings and cash flows is more subdued though, due to relatively short gold reserves life, as reflected in 25% gold contribution to our total DCF estimate. * Antam valuations, PE and EV/EBITDA, are not cheap but the counter offer the only gold exposure in town. * Risks would include stubbornly high ferronickel cost, immediate ban on nickel ore export, and higher than assumed derivative loss. * Upgrade to Outperform. With best regards, Ahmad Solihin (Olie) CLSA Indonesia , Investment Analyst Phone: +62 21 2554 8834 Mobile: +62 812 807 3656 Fax: +62 21 574 6920 ahmad.soli...@... mailto:ahmad.soli...@... CLSA CLEAN GREEN: Please consider our environment before printing this email. The content of this communication is subject to CLSA Legal and Regulatory Notices. These can be viewed at https://www.clsa.com/disclaimer.html https://www.clsa.com/disclaimer.html or sent to you upon request. Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http:/mai l. promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/ Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links ___ Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument
Wa cuma nonton aja. Gak ikutan. --- Pada Sen, 23/2/09, JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com menulis: Dari: JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 23 Februari, 2009, 12:35 AM 1250 posible, tapi hati2 jebakan breakout, at this level, jangan makan dulu, kita minta BD 'buktikan' dulu kalau die serius mau jebolin resistance.., baru nanti kita bantu dorong. Hehehe.. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®From: Rei Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:59:16 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument Antm tembus juga 1200...lanjutkah? tapi pak JT sdh bilang 1250 possible ya...Selamat buat yg masuk di antm (not me...)! On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Joe Grunk joe_gr...@yahoo.com wrote: CLSA is bullish on gold and upgrading the price assumptions by around 25% to 27% over the next two years, with potential for short-term upside surprise. Subsequently, we are raising our earnings forecasts for Antam by 90% to 25%. Known to be a nickel play, gold contribution to Antam revenue could increase from 10% in 2007 to an expected 30% in 2009 while the contribution to gross profit could jump from 10% to 50% over the same period. Impact of higher gold price over the longer run to earnings and cash flows is more subdued though, due to relatively short gold reserves life, as reflected in 25% gold contribution to our total DCF estimate. Antam valuations, PE and EV/EBITDA, are not cheap but the counter offer the only gold exposure in town. Risks would include stubbornly high ferronickel cost, immediate ban on nickel ore export, and higher than assumed derivative loss. Upgrade to Outperform. With best regards, Ahmad Solihin (Olie)CLSA Indonesia , Investment Analyst Phone: +62 21 2554 8834Mobile: +62 812 807 3656 Fax: +62 21 574 6920ahmad.soli...@clsa.com CLSA CLEAN GREEN: Please consider our environment before printing this email. The content of this communication is subject to CLSA Legal and Regulatory Notices. These can be viewed at https://www.clsa.com/disclaimer.html or sent to you upon request. Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! ___ Nama baru untuk Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument
Market Maker itu harus menjaga BURSA tetap MENARIK dan LIKWID meskipun keadaan ekonomi tidak condusive... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Joe Grunk joe_gr...@... wrote: Gantian. Yg kemaren jatuh dalam yg naikin indeks. Bagus juga kerja bandar. --- Pada Sen, 23/2/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... menulis: Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 23 Februari, 2009, 12:23 AM Lagi DIGILIR ... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Irwan Adi Triwibowo irwan.at@ wrote: AYO BUM_BUM masak kalah sama TAM_TAM..
Re: [obrolan-bandar] A Snap Punchliner
HA3X ada KING OF KALINGGA marah euy sorry ...bcanda P'AA --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] A Snap Punchliner To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:09 PM Waduh cowoknya marah euy.. sori ya bang. Regards, DE 2009/2/23 ::Pak_AA:: abdul.rahman. ra...@gmail. com 1. Koq lu tau si gw cantik 2. Wah katauwan de om gw 3. yeee, maksa On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com wrote: Saya punya 3 pertanyaan penting: Bisa bhs Indonesia engga? Mbak Aimee kelihatan lebih cantik dan lucu kalau pakai bahasa Indonesia. Kenal sama Budi Anduk? Yang bener, masa engga kenal? Btw, eropa ijo royo-royo --biar engga oot. Regards, DE 2009/2/23 RATU SIMA ratus...@gmail. com Bro Aria, It's ALL about money. No matter how significant people regard him as a Super Human-like thing on this planet. I just DON'T think so. Market reactions are always negating his every new decision in his new occupancy. Why? Nationalizing its 1 or 2 banks WILL trigger tens, hundreds, and even thousands of financial institutions in the country. It is a saving-life scenario by betting its own HEART as its most vital body organ. Again Bro, U might be a knocker in charting, BUT if U research it back when almost all the world stock indices formed bearish wedge by the end of 08 early 2009 as well as its rebounds have been much shorter than its corrections. It obviously means that market is still down the hill. Kay bro... this is coming down to a larger scene which is economically falling into the failure of Keynesian. The cure is NOT YET FOUND. I'm convinced.. Next time I'm going to explain it in clear-cut words. So bullish time = )!(@*#*$$^%#|+...@%^$#*)%_%*(_^%$# Love, Aimee
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka(TEMPO)
Bukti gampang bahwa sebenarnya yg pakai kode kuning F yah lokal2 juga ; ) --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Felicia Rumondor felicia_rumon...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Felicia Rumondor felicia_rumon...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka(TEMPO) To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 9:38 AM JAKARTA -- Kasus gugatan Renaissance Capital kepada PT Merrill Lynch Indonesia dan Merrill Lynch International Bank Singapore telah rampung dan akan disidangkan di Pengadilan Niaga Jakarta Pusat pada 17 Februari 2009. Dalam gugatan tersebut, pemilik Renaissance, Harjani Prem, menggugat Merrill Lynch membayar US$ 100 juta. Dalam perbincangan dengan wartawan kemarin, kuasa hukum Harjani, Otto Cornelius Kaligis, mengatakan pada 21 Januari 2009 mereka telah dipanggil oleh Pengadilan Niaga untuk memeriksa dan melengkapi berkas-berkas yang diajukan. Sekaligus mediasi, tapi gagal, ujarnya. Karena itu, tanggal persidangan pun ditetapkan. Selain menggugat perdata, mereka melaporkan secara pidana Direktur Utama Merrill Lynch Indonesia Lily Wijaya dan Managing Director Merrill Lynch International ke Markas Besar Kepolisian RI dengan tuduhan penggelapan uang dan pencemaran nama baik. Menurut Kaligis, kasus ini bermula pada 9 April 2008 dengan terbitnya lending and letter of credit facility dari Merrill Lynch International. Surat itu menyatakan Renaissance berhak menerima persetujuan kredit sebesar Sin$ 6 juta dan peningkatan kredit menjadi Sin$ 17 juta. Selanjutnya Renaissance menghubungi Private Banker Merrill Lynch Singapore untuk memakai fasilitas kredit tersebut membeli saham PT Triwira Insan Lestari yang tercatat di Bursa Efek Indonesia. Pada 20 Juni 2008, Private Banker Merrill Lynch Singapore menyetujui Renaissance menggunakan fasilitas tersebut untuk membeli 120 juta lembar saham Triwira yang saat itu nilainya Rp 1.100 per lembar. Namun, tiga hari berselang, setelah saham Triwira dibeli, Risk Management Merrill Lynch Singapore menyebutkan kredit tersebut tidak dapat digunakan membeli saham-saham dari pasar Indonesia karena tidak aman dan berisiko besar.. Merrill Lynch Singapore pun meminta Renaissance membayar penuh pembelian saham Triwira senilai US$ 14,4 juta. Klien kami dan Merrill Lynch melakukan pertemuan dan disepakati penyelesaian pembelian saham Triwira, kata Kaligis. Pada 10 Juli 2008, Renaissance pun mentransfer dana US$ 2 juta ke rekening Merrill Lynch dan kembali mengirimkan dana US$ 5 juta dan US$ 8 juta. Namun, belakangan Merrill Lynch Singapore menjual saham Triwira ke pihak lain tanpa setahu Renaissance. Penjualan dilakukan pada Juli-Oktober 2008 di harga Rp 410-1.000 per lembar. Adapun Merrill Lynch dalam suratnya yang ditandatangani Head of Compliance for Merrill Lynch Global Wealth Management-Asia Pacific Region ke Bapepam pada 25 September 2008 mengakui Renaissance adalah nasabahnya sejak Januari 2008 dan mengakui Renaissance telah membeli 120 juta lembar saham Triwira. Tapi mereka menilai Renaissance tidak mampu memenuhi kewajibannya membayar dana pembelian saham Triwira. Karena itu, Merrill Lynch berupaya menutup kekurangan tersebut dari aset yang ada, tapi belakangan penjualan saham Triwira pun dihentikan. Gagal bayar inilah yang kemudian dilaporkan ke Bapepam. Sayangnya, Direktur Utama Merrill Lynch Indonesia Lily Wijaya tidak dapat diminta konfirmasinya sampai berita ini diturunkan. Panggilan telepon dan pesan pendek yang dikirim Tempo tak jua berbalas. ANTON APRIANTO | EFRI RITONGA --- On Mon, 2/23/09, conx_2003 conx_2...@yahoo. com.au wrote: From: conx_2003 conx_2...@yahoo. com.au Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 9:27 AM Insiden HR ke 2 nih ehehehhe hati2 ditangkap polisi menyebar fitnah heehhehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, komaru muchtar komar2002sg@ ... wrote: Lily Wijaya Dikabarkan Jadi Tersangka Topsaham-Presdir PT Merrill Lynch Indonesia Lily Wijaya dikabarkan jadi tersangka kasus penggelapan aset-aset milik nasabah.Aset nasabah tersebut berupa saham yang dijual tanpa sepengetahuan pemiliknya. Menurut sumber kasus tersebut lily dijadikan tersangka oleh Mabes Polri atas dugaan penggelapan, pencemaran nama baik, dan perbuatan tidak menyenangkan, yang diatur dalam pasal 372, 310 dan 335 KUHP Get your new Email address! Grab the Email name you#39;ve always wanted before someone else does! http://mail. promotions. yahoo.com/ newdomains/ aa/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: A Snap Punchliner...ADU ARGUMEN yg sehat...
Okay, Embah. Noted. I respect you in person. As I'm still in my 20s, I will post in a little bit Slank language. Bahassa Perdana ney... Jadi lo semua gw harap sabar, super duper sabar sama kondisi market yang lagi berjalan. Secara fundamental big picturenya juga masey bearish abis. Gw masey di Dubai dan sekarang ney lagi ditemenin ama temen gw dari Nakheel. Dia kasey bilang proyek real estate sama konstruksi di sini tuh perlahan tapi pasti mulai stuck. Gw denger proyek senilai sekitar 600 M USD (bkn rupiah yah?) mule disuspen ama di cancel. Lo bayangin aja tuh. Lagian secara kebanyakan penduduk di sini pendatang, arsitek, pebisnis, pegawe hotel, bahkan pembokat ney pendatang. Mgkn 82% kale. Nah masalahnya gini, yang bangun Dubai tuh orang-orang jauh juga loh. Asian banyak, orang Korea juga. Di sini pendatang tuh boleh punya properti tapi non-tanah yah. Nah waktu resesi mule melanda gini, mereka pada cabut. Alias kabur getu. Kabur dari hutang dan kredit lah. Lagian hukum di sini agak aneh loh, jadi berhutang tuh kaya kurang 'diperkenankan' sama syariah di sini. Jadi ada ancaman hukumnya. Makanya tuh orang-orang pada milih kabur daripada dipenjara. Padahal gila bo, pembangunan real estate sama konstruksi di sini tuh gila-gilaan! Makanya sering disebut ikon. Mule Burj Al Arab, the Palm Islands, dan yang paling gokil tuh the Rotating Towers-nya. Gokil banget ney apartemen tuh bisa muter 360 derajat. Jadi kalo lo tinggal di sini dalam sebulan bisa ngadep ke arah view yang berbeda-beda. Ya getu deh. Mudah-mudahan sey nggak parah-parah amat, cuma orang pada tengsin juga ngeliat perkembangan kondisi di sini. Gw mpe ngimpi ney coba DKI Jakarta bisa kaya gene. Keren! Cuma 1 hal: maju yah maju tapi jangan karena ekspansi kredit utawa leverage mulu. Tar jadi boomerang baru NYAHOK. Nah, secara Amerika, Eropa, Timur Tengah masey mengerikan getu dimohon dengan sangat yah loh kudu sabar dulu. Tar gw lanjutin kok. Makasih yah, Aimee
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Emas 1000, Masa ANTM Gak Isa Tembus 1200
Kalo bisa gw short sebulan gw short ANTM ! --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com wrote: From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Emas 1000, Masa ANTM Gak Isa Tembus 1200 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 11:04 AM Congrats pak AA... Blm ngapa2in nih saya di Antm...lihat aja dulu lah...kalo gak ada feeling ngak perlu dipaksa. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 4:04 PM, ::Pak_AA:: abdul.rahman. ra...@gmail. com wrote: Nyam nyam 1230 Pak JT, dah cuan belon dari mall? Pak REI? Mau ngeshort? Nurut pak JT, tunggu di level 1250, klo tembus jgn di short. Sok teu lagi de gw 2009/2/23 natali jong natali_jong@ yahoo.com. sg Saya nungguin di 400 saja sembari santai makan baso tahu, --- On Mon, 23/2/09, ::Pak_AA:: abdul.rahman. ra...@gmail. com wrote: From: ::Pak_AA:: abdul.rahman. ra...@gmail. com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Emas 1000, Masa ANTM Gak Isa Tembus 1200 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, 23 February, 2009, 3:22 PM FA gue bilang belon kayaknya Pa Sabar dikit. Kalau perlu tunggu 2500 seperti kata pak JT hehehe, sok tau de gw On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Kevin Hogan kvn...@gmail. com wrote: Kalau udah tembus 1200 boleh dicollect nih pak. Lanjut lagi terus ke 1250. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:56 PM, ::Pak_AA:: abdul.rahman. ra...@gmail. com wrote: Dah 1200 pak JT... Ayo dorong ... udahnongol palanya dikit lagi ngeden dikit lagi On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 5:39 AM, JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@yahoo. com wrote: Secara teknis agak berat pak, paling top 1250 lah, tp ini tergantung apakah proses akumulasi sdh selesai apa belum (which we never know), kalau sdh selesai sih pis of kek lah.., tinggal dibikin breakout aja.. Hehe Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® From: \::Pak_AA:\: Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 04:43:37 +0100 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Emas 1000, Masa ANTM Gak Isa Tembus 1200 Gimana pak REI, Embah, pak JT?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: A Snap Punchliner...ADU ARGUMEN yg sehat...
Hore nulis Indonesia! Wah logat Jambeee!? --- On Mon, 2/23/09, RATU SIMA ratus...@gmail.com wrote: From: RATU SIMA ratus...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: A Snap Punchliner...ADU ARGUMEN yg sehat To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 12:14 PM Okay, Embah. Noted. I respect you in person. As I'm still in my 20s, I will post in a little bit Slank language. Bahassa Perdana ney... Jadi lo semua gw harap sabar, super duper sabar sama kondisi market yang lagi berjalan. Secara fundamental big picturenya juga masey bearish abis. Gw masey di Dubai dan sekarang ney lagi ditemenin ama temen gw dari Nakheel.. Dia kasey bilang proyek real estate sama konstruksi di sini tuh perlahan tapi pasti mulai stuck. Gw denger proyek senilai sekitar 600 M USD (bkn rupiah yah?) mule disuspen ama di cancel. Lo bayangin aja tuh. Lagian secara kebanyakan penduduk di sini pendatang, arsitek, pebisnis, pegawe hotel, bahkan pembokat ney pendatang. Mgkn 82% kale. Nah masalahnya gini, yang bangun Dubai tuh orang-orang jauh juga loh. Asian banyak, orang Korea juga. Di sini pendatang tuh boleh punya properti tapi non-tanah yah. Nah waktu resesi mule melanda gini, mereka pada cabut. Alias kabur getu. Kabur dari hutang dan kredit lah. Lagian hukum di sini agak aneh loh, jadi berhutang tuh kaya kurang 'diperkenankan' sama syariah di sini. Jadi ada ancaman hukumnya. Makanya tuh orang-orang pada milih kabur daripada dipenjara. Padahal gila bo, pembangunan real estate sama konstruksi di sini tuh gila-gilaan! Makanya sering disebut ikon. Mule Burj Al Arab, the Palm Islands, dan yang paling gokil tuh the Rotating Towers-nya. Gokil banget ney apartemen tuh bisa muter 360 derajat. Jadi kalo lo tinggal di sini dalam sebulan bisa ngadep ke arah view yang berbeda-beda. Ya getu deh. Mudah-mudahan sey nggak parah-parah amat, cuma orang pada tengsin juga ngeliat perkembangan kondisi di sini. Gw mpe ngimpi ney coba DKI Jakarta bisa kaya gene. Keren! Cuma 1 hal: maju yah maju tapi jangan karena ekspansi kredit utawa leverage mulu. Tar jadi boomerang baru NYAHOK. Nah, secara Amerika, Eropa, Timur Tengah masey mengerikan getu dimohon dengan sangat yah loh kudu sabar dulu. Tar gw lanjutin kok. Makasih yah, Aimee
Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] LTLS Bagi Dividen
Kena getok kurs USD! Kalo rupiah kuat ini saham bisa 4000-5000. nanti kalo sudah kuat ke 9000-1 rupiah, nge ga, demand naik, margin baik. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Joe Grunk joe_gr...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Joe Grunk joe_gr...@yahoo.com Subject: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] LTLS Bagi Dividen To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 3:51 AM Dari dulu rumornya mau ke 3000. Yg ngomong punya jabatan tinggi di sana loh... --- Pada Ming, 22/2/09, Darmawan dadiresmawan02@ yahoo.com menulis: Dari: Darmawan dadiresmawan02@ yahoo.com Topik: [obrolan-bandar] LTLS Bagi Dividen Kepada: sa...@yahoogroupos. com, obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Minggu, 22 Februari, 2009, 6:55 PM Title : Rumours: LTLS Bagi Dividen LTLS dikabarkan akan membagi dividen cukup besar, seiring komitmen perseroan yang akan membagi dividen FY08 sebanayk 30% jika laba bersihnya di atas Rp60 miliar. Kabarnya, laba bersih FY08 sebesar Rp272,66 miliar. Oleh karenanya, sejumlah hedge fund akan mengangkat saham LTLS. (investor) Mulai chatting dengan teman di Yahoo! Pingbox baru sekarang!! Membuat tempat chat pribadi di blog Anda sekarang sangatlah mudah
[obrolan-bandar] Asian, European stocks advance on Citigroup report - World stocks mostly rise on report US could take bigger stake in Citigroup; HK up 3.8 pct...
http://biz.yahoo.com/top.html Top Stories http://us.rd.yahoo.com/finance/finhome/topstories/apf/*http:/biz.yahoo.com/ ap/090223/world_markets.html Asian, European stocks advance on Citigroup report- AP Asian and European stock markets advanced Monday, as investors digested reports the U.S. government might expand its stake in troubled banking giant Citigroup to ease the financial crisis. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Asian-European-stocks-advance-apf-14435677.htm l
Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] CItigroup
Alias nggak perlu wajib dilaporkan ke PAJAK! Tapi di Brazil sono, gara2 banyak nasabah yg kesangkut Maddof ama Stanford Bank, orang2 yg punya account off shore, dikejar pajak. Baru aja Brazil teken Tax treaty dgn USA. Feeling gw lama kelamaan Indonesia juga begitu. Misalkan kawan saya bule Aussie main saham di USA pasti ditagih pajak di Sydney, padahal main di NY USA. Jadi pajaknya tergantung domisili. --- On Sun, 2/22/09, Agusta Mahardika wufwuf...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Agusta Mahardika wufwuf...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] CItigroup To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, February 22, 2009, 6:22 AM kalau saya sie baru saja ketemu dan ditawarin marketing citibank depositonya mentok di 11% kok itupun untuk 1M keatas kayanya. Dapet 15% OK juga tuh, lumayan buat diversifikasi portofolio saya. hehe... dan bukannya pajak 20% itu untuk product2 yang dilaunch di dalam negeri ya? pengalaman kalau ditawarin product bank2 asing sih begitu, kalau product yang di launch/beli diluar negeri sie emang 0% based on experience.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Besok Siap digebukin...
Mas Yudizz ribut sih Ane mau borong UNTR di 5000 ga jd deh.. :) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:26:46 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Besok Siap digebukin... Lu juga sih ribut aje open gap down.., ane gak dapet barang dah... Kekekee Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: y_dizz y_d...@mail2web.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:20:42 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Besok Siap digebukin... Ternyata sebelum pasukan khusus dikeluarkan, yang mau ngegebukin udah ditangkep duluan ama Hansip. Kekekek... Tidak perlu ngeluarin banyak amunisi ternyata. TETAP SIAGA, serangan balasan bisa datang sewaktu2..!!! Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, y_dizz y_d...@... wrote: Besok open gap down, pasukan Detasemen Khusus Anti Bearish akan masuk, berikutnya Barisan Copet Berani Mati akan melakukan penyerangan gelombang kedua. Watchout, yang nekat mau guyur akan DITEMBAK DI TEMBAK...!!! Semuanya siapkan senjata, kita bersiap lakukan penyerangan. Tinggal tunggu komando Embah. Hemat peluru kalian, ONE SHOT ONE MAN. Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, FromBuitenzorg frombuitenzorg@ wrote: Besok beberapa sektor akan coba digebukin lagi, kecuali beberapa saham unggulan akan berupaya melawan :) Rgrds + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:obrolan-bandar-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: obrolan-bandar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: A Snap Punchliner...ADU ARGUMEN yg sehat...
Aimee.., bahasanya gak asiiikk !.., we want Aimee yg dulu.., itu loh, yg pake om-tante.. Gituuu...hehe.., nyang ini mah biasa.., sama aja kayak baca tulisan pak AA... Hahaha.., canda boss.. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Baso TAHU tahub...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 04:19:17 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: A Snap Punchliner...ADU ARGUMEN yg sehat... Hore nulis Indonesia! Wah logat Jambeee!? --- On Mon, 2/23/09, RATU SIMA ratus...@gmail.com wrote: From: RATU SIMA ratus...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: A Snap Punchliner...ADU ARGUMEN yg sehat To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 12:14 PM Okay, Embah. Noted. I respect you in person. As I'm still in my 20s, I will post in a little bit Slank language. Bahassa Perdana ney... Jadi lo semua gw harap sabar, super duper sabar sama kondisi market yang lagi berjalan. Secara fundamental big picturenya juga masey bearish abis. Gw masey di Dubai dan sekarang ney lagi ditemenin ama temen gw dari Nakheel.. Dia kasey bilang proyek real estate sama konstruksi di sini tuh perlahan tapi pasti mulai stuck. Gw denger proyek senilai sekitar 600 M USD (bkn rupiah yah?) mule disuspen ama di cancel. Lo bayangin aja tuh. Lagian secara kebanyakan penduduk di sini pendatang, arsitek, pebisnis, pegawe hotel, bahkan pembokat ney pendatang. Mgkn 82% kale. Nah masalahnya gini, yang bangun Dubai tuh orang-orang jauh juga loh. Asian banyak, orang Korea juga. Di sini pendatang tuh boleh punya properti tapi non-tanah yah. Nah waktu resesi mule melanda gini, mereka pada cabut. Alias kabur getu. Kabur dari hutang dan kredit lah. Lagian hukum di sini agak aneh loh, jadi berhutang tuh kaya kurang 'diperkenankan' sama syariah di sini. Jadi ada ancaman hukumnya. Makanya tuh orang-orang pada milih kabur daripada dipenjara. Padahal gila bo, pembangunan real estate sama konstruksi di sini tuh gila-gilaan! Makanya sering disebut ikon. Mule Burj Al Arab, the Palm Islands, dan yang paling gokil tuh the Rotating Towers-nya. Gokil banget ney apartemen tuh bisa muter 360 derajat. Jadi kalo lo tinggal di sini dalam sebulan bisa ngadep ke arah view yang berbeda-beda. Ya getu deh. Mudah-mudahan sey nggak parah-parah amat, cuma orang pada tengsin juga ngeliat perkembangan kondisi di sini. Gw mpe ngimpi ney coba DKI Jakarta bisa kaya gene. Keren! Cuma 1 hal: maju yah maju tapi jangan karena ekspansi kredit utawa leverage mulu. Tar jadi boomerang baru NYAHOK. Nah, secara Amerika, Eropa, Timur Tengah masey mengerikan getu dimohon dengan sangat yah loh kudu sabar dulu. Tar gw lanjutin kok. Makasih yah, Aimee
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: A Snap Punchliner...ADU ARGUMEN yg sehat...
Wow ... Terimakasih Aimee ! Den Ju Feri Muds --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Baso TAHU tahub...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Baso TAHU tahub...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: A Snap Punchliner...ADU ARGUMEN yg sehat To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 7:19 PM Hore nulis Indonesia! Wah logat Jambeee!? --- On Mon, 2/23/09, RATU SIMA ratus...@gmail. com wrote: From: RATU SIMA ratus...@gmail. com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: A Snap Punchliner.. .ADU ARGUMEN yg sehat To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 12:14 PM Okay, Embah. Noted. I respect you in person. As I'm still in my 20s, I will post in a little bit Slank language. Bahassa Perdana ney... Jadi lo semua gw harap sabar, super duper sabar sama kondisi market yang lagi berjalan. Secara fundamental big picturenya juga masey bearish abis. Gw masey di Dubai dan sekarang ney lagi ditemenin ama temen gw dari Nakheel.. Dia kasey bilang proyek real estate sama konstruksi di sini tuh perlahan tapi pasti mulai stuck. Gw denger proyek senilai sekitar 600 M USD (bkn rupiah yah?) mule disuspen ama di cancel. Lo bayangin aja tuh. Lagian secara kebanyakan penduduk di sini pendatang, arsitek, pebisnis, pegawe hotel, bahkan pembokat ney pendatang. Mgkn 82% kale. Nah masalahnya gini, yang bangun Dubai tuh orang-orang jauh juga loh. Asian banyak, orang Korea juga. Di sini pendatang tuh boleh punya properti tapi non-tanah yah.. Nah waktu resesi mule melanda gini, mereka pada cabut. Alias kabur getu. Kabur dari hutang dan kredit lah. Lagian hukum di sini agak aneh loh, jadi berhutang tuh kaya kurang 'diperkenankan' sama syariah di sini. Jadi ada ancaman hukumnya. Makanya tuh orang-orang pada milih kabur daripada dipenjara.. Padahal gila bo, pembangunan real estate sama konstruksi di sini tuh gila-gilaan! Makanya sering disebut ikon. Mule Burj Al Arab, the Palm Islands, dan yang paling gokil tuh the Rotating Towers-nya. Gokil banget ney apartemen tuh bisa muter 360 derajat. Jadi kalo lo tinggal di sini dalam sebulan bisa ngadep ke arah view yang berbeda-beda. Ya getu deh. Mudah-mudahan sey nggak parah-parah amat, cuma orang pada tengsin juga ngeliat perkembangan kondisi di sini. Gw mpe ngimpi ney coba DKI Jakarta bisa kaya gene. Keren! Cuma 1 hal: maju yah maju tapi jangan karena ekspansi kredit utawa leverage mulu. Tar jadi boomerang baru NYAHOK. Nah, secara Amerika, Eropa, Timur Tengah masey mengerikan getu dimohon dengan sangat yah loh kudu sabar dulu. Tar gw lanjutin kok. Makasih yah, Aimee
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kalo ngomong basa indonesia kok kayak cowok ya? On 2/23/09, RATU SIMA ratus...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, Embah. Noted. I respect you in person. As I'm still in my 20s, I will post in a little bit Slank language. Bahassa Perdana ney... Jadi lo semua gw harap sabar, super duper sabar sama kondisi market yang lagi berjalan. Secara fundamental big picturenya juga masey bearish abis. Gw masey di Dubai dan sekarang ney lagi ditemenin ama temen gw dari Nakheel. Dia kasey bilang proyek real estate sama konstruksi di sini tuh perlahan tapi pasti mulai stuck. Gw denger proyek senilai sekitar 600 M USD (bkn rupiah yah?) mule disuspen ama di cancel. Lo bayangin aja tuh. Lagian secara kebanyakan penduduk di sini pendatang, arsitek, pebisnis, pegawe hotel, bahkan pembokat ney pendatang. Mgkn 82% kale. Nah masalahnya gini, yang bangun Dubai tuh orang-orang jauh juga loh. Asian banyak, orang Korea juga. Di sini pendatang tuh boleh punya properti tapi non-tanah yah. Nah waktu resesi mule melanda gini, mereka pada cabut. Alias kabur getu. Kabur dari hutang dan kredit lah. Lagian hukum di sini agak aneh loh, jadi berhutang tuh kaya kurang 'diperkenankan' sama syariah di sini. Jadi ada ancaman hukumnya. Makanya tuh orang-orang pada milih kabur daripada dipenjara. Padahal gila bo, pembangunan real estate sama konstruksi di sini tuh gila-gilaan! Makanya sering disebut ikon. Mule Burj Al Arab, the Palm Islands, dan yang paling gokil tuh the Rotating Towers-nya. Gokil banget ney apartemen tuh bisa muter 360 derajat. Jadi kalo lo tinggal di sini dalam sebulan bisa ngadep ke arah view yang berbeda-beda. Ya getu deh. Mudah-mudahan sey nggak parah-parah amat, cuma orang pada tengsin juga ngeliat perkembangan kondisi di sini. Gw mpe ngimpi ney coba DKI Jakarta bisa kaya gene. Keren! Cuma 1 hal: maju yah maju tapi jangan karena ekspansi kredit utawa leverage mulu. Tar jadi boomerang baru NYAHOK. Nah, secara Amerika, Eropa, Timur Tengah masey mengerikan getu dimohon dengan sangat yah loh kudu sabar dulu. Tar gw lanjutin kok. Makasih yah, Aimee
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bahasanya GAUL juga nih ternyataa GEthoo... sumpee. gue juga baru ngeh ternyata cantik loh... DISCLAIMER ON the way busway. --- Pada Sen, 23/2/09, RATU SIMA ratus...@gmail.com menulis: Dari: RATU SIMA ratus...@gmail.com Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: A Snap Punchliner...ADU ARGUMEN yg sehat... Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 23 Februari, 2009, 4:14 AM Okay, Embah. Noted. I respect you in person. As I'm still in my 20s, I will post in a little bit Slank language. Bahassa Perdana ney... Jadi lo semua gw harap sabar, super duper sabar sama kondisi market yang lagi berjalan. Secara fundamental big picturenya juga masey bearish abis. Gw masey di Dubai dan sekarang ney lagi ditemenin ama temen gw dari Nakheel.. Dia kasey bilang proyek real estate sama konstruksi di sini tuh perlahan tapi pasti mulai stuck. Gw denger proyek senilai sekitar 600 M USD (bkn rupiah yah?) mule disuspen ama di cancel. Lo bayangin aja tuh. Lagian secara kebanyakan penduduk di sini pendatang, arsitek, pebisnis, pegawe hotel, bahkan pembokat ney pendatang. Mgkn 82% kale. Nah masalahnya gini, yang bangun Dubai tuh orang-orang jauh juga loh. Asian banyak, orang Korea juga. Di sini pendatang tuh boleh punya properti tapi non-tanah yah. Nah waktu resesi mule melanda gini, mereka pada cabut. Alias kabur getu. Kabur dari hutang dan kredit lah. Lagian hukum di sini agak aneh loh, jadi berhutang tuh kaya kurang 'diperkenankan' sama syariah di sini. Jadi ada ancaman hukumnya. Makanya tuh orang-orang pada milih kabur daripada dipenjara. Padahal gila bo, pembangunan real estate sama konstruksi di sini tuh gila-gilaan! Makanya sering disebut ikon. Mule Burj Al Arab, the Palm Islands, dan yang paling gokil tuh the Rotating Towers-nya. Gokil banget ney apartemen tuh bisa muter 360 derajat. Jadi kalo lo tinggal di sini dalam sebulan bisa ngadep ke arah view yang berbeda-beda. Ya getu deh. Mudah-mudahan sey nggak parah-parah amat, cuma orang pada tengsin juga ngeliat perkembangan kondisi di sini. Gw mpe ngimpi ney coba DKI Jakarta bisa kaya gene. Keren! Cuma 1 hal: maju yah maju tapi jangan karena ekspansi kredit utawa leverage mulu. Tar jadi boomerang baru NYAHOK. Nah, secara Amerika, Eropa, Timur Tengah masey mengerikan getu dimohon dengan sangat yah loh kudu sabar dulu. Tar gw lanjutin kok. Makasih yah, Aimee Kunjungi halaman depan Yahoo! Indonesia yang baru! http://id.yahoo.com/
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Om BT, Yang bener ney? Rupiah mo 9.000 - 10.000? Yg gw liat beda Om. Malah keknya mo ke 13.000 - 15.000 dlm jangka menengah. Uncle Sam aja jor-joran ney jual bond, buat palagi kalo kaga buat dongkrak dollar dulu. Mending jangan terlalu berharap penguatan rupiah dulu. Buat nahan rupiah tuh modalnya kaga kecil. Love, Aimee
[obrolan-bandar] Re: A Snap Punchliner
Ah, percuma. Die bikin, Boss JT juga nggak nge-add. Yang add malah Jsx_Trader, hahaha... canda.com Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader⢠jsxtra...@... wrote: Emang cantik boss? Kalo gitu ane punya pertanyaan juga.., Aimee punya facebook gak? Kalo gak punya, bikin dong..., ane penasaran nih... Hehehe Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@... Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:58:46 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] A Snap Punchliner Saya punya 3 pertanyaan penting: 1. Bisa bhs Indonesia engga? Mbak Aimee kelihatan lebih cantik dan lucu kalau pakai bahasa Indonesia. 2. Kenal sama Budi Anduk? 3. Yang bener, masa engga kenal? Btw, eropa ijo royo-royo --biar engga oot. Regards, DE
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It's alright - you're the queen.wo ai nee :x From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of RATU SIMA Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 5:18 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM]Re: [obrolan-bandar] A Snap Punchliner Bro Aria, It's ALL about money. No matter how significant people regard him as a Super Human-like thing on this planet. I just DON'T think so. Market reactions are always negating his every new decision in his new occupancy. Why? Nationalizing its 1 or 2 banks WILL trigger tens, hundreds, and even thousands of financial institutions in the country. It is a saving-life scenario by betting its own HEART as its most vital body organ. Again Bro, U might be a knocker in charting, BUT if U research it back when almost all the world stock indices formed bearish wedge by the end of 08 early 2009 as well as its rebounds have been much shorter than its corrections. It obviously means that market is still down the hill. Kay bro... this is coming down to a larger scene which is economically falling into the failure of Keynesian. The cure is NOT YET FOUND. I'm convinced. Next time I'm going to explain it in clear-cut words. So bullish time = )!(@*#*$$^%#|+...@%^$#*)%_%*(_^%$# Love, Aimee
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Dear Aimee, Your statement just clear enough, at least for me. No more questions. Oh by the way, your home is just adjascent to my little house. Meanwhile, wud you share some different perspective to the quoted article below?, thanks. --- qt --- Reuters: U.S. economy seen starting recovery in second half of '09: poll 23 Feb 2009, 03:59 AM EST By Lucia Mutikani WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. economy is set to contract sharply in the first quarter, with the current cyclical downturn on track to rival the 1973-75 slump as soaring unemployment depresses demand, a survey showed. However, a survey of 47 professional forecasters released by the National Association of Business Economists on Monday predicted the recession-hit economy would begin to recover in the second half of this year, returning to a potential growth trend in 2010. The recovery was seen driven by the Obama administration's $787 billion economic stimulus plan, the group said. The steady drumbeat of weak economic and financial market data have made business economists decidedly more pessimistic on the economic outlook for the next several quarters, said NABE President Chris Varvares. The good news is that economic activity is expected to turn up in the second half of the year and 2010 is expected to see modestly above-trend growth of 3.1 percent, Varvares said. The survey, conducted between January 29 and February 12, forecast real gross domestic product would shrink by an annualized rate of 5.0 percent in the first quarter, moderating to a 1.7 percent contraction in the second quarter. The economy was expected to expand by 1.0 percent in the third quarter, with growth quickening to 2.1 percent in the final three months of the year, the poll respondents said. Advance government estimates showed GDP shrank at a 3.8 percent annual rate in the fourth quarter, but this figure is likely to be revised to show a bigger contraction when preliminary figures are released on Friday. In November, the NABE survey had forecast first-quarter GDP sliding at an annual rate of 1.3 percent, before rising by an anemic 0.5 percent in the second quarter. The U.S. economy tipped into recession in December 2007, triggered by the collapse of the domestic housing market and the accompanying global credit crisis. HOUSEHOLDS POORER With real estate and stock market prices crumbling, household wealth is declining and their spending capacity has been severely eroded. The resulting slump in demand is forcing companies to lay off workers in huge numbers, exacerbating the severity of the 13-month-old downturn. Cumulatively, the cyclical downturn will rival that of 1973-75. In the current downturn, real GDP is predicted to decline 2.8 percent -- slightly less than the 3.1 percent during the early '70s, the NABE said. The survey forecast the unemployment rate peaking at 9.0 percent in the fourth quarter, before edging lower from the second quarter of 2010. The U.S. jobless rate is currently at 7.6 percent, a 16-year high. Job losses are expected to persist through 2009, though steadily diminishing over the course of the year. Average monthly payroll losses of 421,000 through the first half of the year will taper to 114,000 during the second half, the NABE said. House prices, as measured by the Federal Housing Finance Agency, were predicted to fall 5.3 percent this year, while declining home sales were seen reaching a bottom by mid-2009. Restoring stability to the housing market is widely seen as crucial to reviving the economy. The slump in consumer demand was expected to suppress inflation pressures, with the consumer price index forecast to fall 0.8 percent in 2009, before rebounding to 1.9 percent in 2010. Despite the pessimistic near-term outlook, the survey forecast the economy expanding at a rate of 3.1 percent in 2010, largely driven by the government's massive stimulus plan. NABE panelists foresee the United States as the leader in shaking off the recession shroud, the group said. --- unqt --- Rgds, Yuta Powered by my VerryBerry® -Original Message- From: RATU SIMA ratus...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:39:43 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] A Snap Punchliner Dear Yuta, U sound smart. I believe U're. 1. I'm just a newbie around the corner. As a side-activity, we co-own one of leading foreign financial institutions across the world. Sometimes, when I am in good mood, travel around the world to see the reality of market condition. In my freetime I write for Reuters and Bloomberg of what's coming up in my mind. 2. We're still doing a strongly hedged-portfolio in equity with extremely tight entry and exit points. We've just taken profit from precious metals (target is at 1000 we set prior to mania euphoria). Today I declared to all our layers to cancel short-covering in oil. We dismiss our plan to purchase National Oilwell Varco stocks. Its risk doesn't
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giliran berikutnya PGAS... any comment...?? mohon maaf mbah, analisa nya sederhana saja, ane beli kemaren hehehe 1. mungkin prof JT dan yg lain bisa lampirin chart PGAS secara Volume, kan chart pasti sama aja, tinggal mau makenya gimana. 2. Nanti bung michel angelo bisa kasi bluemoon di PGAS biar chart nya tambah cantik 3. nah ini dia, bung tasrul men OPtimized agar cocok dengan asumsi saya 4. Bung DE : ini BUMN juga kan... tuh mbah sudah komplit kan bantuan dari teman2 OBers. disclaimer..?: kita liat aja nanti, kalo bener semoga, kalo keliru ya disclaimer ON .. --- Pada Sen, 23/2/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id menulis: Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 23 Februari, 2009, 12:23 AM Lagi DIGILIR ... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Irwan Adi Triwibowo irwan...@.. . wrote: AYO BUM_BUM masak kalah sama TAM_TAM. . _ _ __ From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Joe Grunk Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:55 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com; sa...@yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument * CLSA is bullish on gold and upgrading the price assumptions by around 25% to 27% over the next two years, with potential for short-term upside surprise. * Subsequently, we are raising our earnings forecasts for Antam by 90% to 25%. * Known to be a nickel play, gold contribution to Antam revenue could increase from 10% in 2007 to an expected 30% in 2009 while the contribution to gross profit could jump from 10% to 50% over the same period. * Impact of higher gold price over the longer run to earnings and cash flows is more subdued though, due to relatively short gold reserves life, as reflected in 25% gold contribution to our total DCF estimate. * Antam valuations, PE and EV/EBITDA, are not cheap but the counter offer the only gold exposure in town. * Risks would include stubbornly high ferronickel cost, immediate ban on nickel ore export, and higher than assumed derivative loss. * Upgrade to Outperform. With best regards, Ahmad Solihin (Olie) CLSA Indonesia , Investment Analyst Phone: +62 21 2554 8834 Mobile: +62 812 807 3656 Fax: +62 21 574 6920 ahmad.solihin@ ... mailto:ahmad. soli...@. .. _ _ __ CLSA CLEAN GREEN: Please consider our environment before printing this email. The content of this communication is subject to CLSA Legal and Regulatory Notices. These can be viewed at https://www. clsa.com/ disclaimer. html https://www. clsa.com/ disclaimer. html or sent to you upon request. _ _ __ Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! http://sg.rd. yahoo.com/ id/mail/domainch oice/mail/ signature/ *http:/mai l. promotions.yahoo. com/newdomains/ id/ Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! Firefox 3: Lebih Cepat, Lebih Aman, Dapat Disesuaikan dan Gratis.http://downloads.yahoo.com/id/firefox
next pgas Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument
giliran berikutnya PGAS... any comment...?? mohon maaf mbah, analisa nya sederhana saja, ane beli kemaren hehehe 1. mungkin prof JT dan yg lain bisa lampirin chart PGAS secara Volume, kan chart pasti sama aja, tinggal mau makenya gimana. 2. Nanti bung michel angelo bisa kasi bluemoon di PGAS biar chart nya tambah cantik 3. nah ini dia, bung tasrul men OPtimized agar cocok dengan asumsi saya 4. Bung DE : ini BUMN juga kan... tuh mbah sudah komplit kan bantuan dari teman2 OBers. disclaimer..?: kita liat aja nanti, kalo bener semoga, kalo keliru ya disclaimer ON .. --- Pada Sen, 23/2/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id menulis: Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 23 Februari, 2009, 12:23 AM Lagi DIGILIR ... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Irwan Adi Triwibowo irwan...@.. . wrote: AYO BUM_BUM masak kalah sama TAM_TAM. . _ _ __ From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Joe Grunk Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:55 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com; sa...@yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument % Mulai chatting dengan teman di Yahoo! Pingbox baru sekarang!! Membuat tempat chat pribadi di blog Anda sekarang sangatlah mudah. http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument
Gile bok.. pesanan dari mana nih :)) fresh from the oven :)) sampai-sampai ekspektasi EPS lupa diganti :) On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Joe Grunk joe_gr...@yahoo.com wrote: - CLSA is bullish on gold and upgrading the price assumptions by around 25% to 27% over the next two years, with potential for short-term upside surprise. - Subsequently, we are raising our earnings forecasts for Antam by 90% to 25%. - Known to be a nickel play, gold contribution to Antam revenue could increase from 10% in 2007 to an expected 30% in 2009 while the contribution to gross profit could jump from 10% to 50% over the same period. - Impact of higher gold price over the longer run to earnings and cash flows is more subdued though, due to relatively short gold reserves life, as reflected in 25% gold contribution to our total DCF estimate. - Antam valuations, PE and EV/EBITDA, are not cheap but the counter offer the only gold exposure in town. - Risks would include stubbornly high ferronickel cost, immediate ban on nickel ore export, and higher than assumed derivative loss. - Upgrade to Outperform. With best regards, Ahmad Solihin (Olie) CLSA Indonesia , Investment Analyst Phone: +62 21 2554 8834 Mobile: +62 812 807 3656 Fax: +62 21 574 6920 ahmad.soli...@clsa.com * -- * *CLSA CLEAN GREEN: Please consider our environment before printing this email.* The content of this communication is subject to CLSA Legal and Regulatory Notices. These can be viewed at https://www.clsa.com/disclaimer.html or sent to you upon request. -- Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/ Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain!
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Yael... diem2 aja atuh Jendral..., ya sdh lah..., watch it !! hehehe Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:44:37 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: next pgas Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument giliran berikutnya PGAS... any comment...?? mohon maaf mbah, analisa nya sederhana saja, ane beli kemaren hehehe 1. mungkin prof JT dan yg lain bisa lampirin chart PGAS secara Volume, kan chart pasti sama aja, tinggal mau makenya gimana. 2. Nanti bung michel angelo bisa kasi bluemoon di PGAS biar chart nya tambah cantik 3. nah ini dia, bung tasrul men OPtimized agar cocok dengan asumsi saya 4. Bung DE : ini BUMN juga kan... tuh mbah sudah komplit kan bantuan dari teman2 OBers. disclaimer..?: kita liat aja nanti, kalo bener semoga, kalo keliru ya disclaimer ON .. --- Pada Sen, 23/2/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id menulis: Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 23 Februari, 2009, 12:23 AM Lagi DIGILIR ... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Irwan Adi Triwibowo irwan...@.. . wrote: AYO BUM_BUM masak kalah sama TAM_TAM. . From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Joe Grunk Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:55 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com; sa...@yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument * CLSA is bullish on gold and upgrading the price assumptions by around 25% to 27% over the next two years, with potential for short-term upside surprise. * Subsequently, we are raising our earnings forecasts for Antam by 90% to 25%. * Known to be a nickel play, gold contribution to Antam revenue could increase from 10% in 2007 to an expected 30% in 2009 while the contribution to gross profit could jump from 10% to 50% over the same period. * Impact of higher gold price over the longer run to earnings and cash flows is more subdued though, due to relatively short gold reserves life, as reflected in 25% gold contribution to our total DCF estimate. * Antam valuations, PE and EV/EBITDA, are not cheap but the counter offer the only gold exposure in town. * Risks would include stubbornly high ferronickel cost, immediate ban on nickel ore export, and higher than assumed derivative loss. * Upgrade to Outperform. With best regards, Ahmad Solihin (Olie) CLSA Indonesia , Investment Analyst Phone: +62 21 2554 8834 Mobile: +62 812 807 3656 Fax: +62 21 574 6920 ahmad.solihin@ ... mailto:ahmad. soli...@. .. CLSA CLEAN GREEN: Please consider our environment before printing this email. The content of this communication is subject to CLSA Legal and Regulatory Notices. These can be viewed at https://www. clsa.com/ disclaimer. html https://www. clsa.com/ disclaimer. html or sent to you upon request. Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! http://sg.rd. yahoo.com/ id/mail/domainch oice/mail/ signature/ *http:/mai l. promotions.yahoo. com/newdomains/ id/ Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! Firefox 3: Lebih Cepat, Lebih Aman, Dapat Disesuaikan dan Gratis.http://downloads.yahoo.com/id/firefox
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Pantesan ISAT cuman sekejap... bikin susah orang aja... masa musti hit ISAT di 4200 On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM, JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote: Lu juga sih ribut aje open gap down.., ane gak dapet barang dah... Kekekee Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry(R) -Original Message- From: y_dizz y_d...@mail2web.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:20:42 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Besok Siap digebukin... Ternyata sebelum pasukan khusus dikeluarkan, yang mau ngegebukin udah ditangkep duluan ama Hansip. Kekekek... Tidak perlu ngeluarin banyak amunisi ternyata. TETAP SIAGA, serangan balasan bisa datang sewaktu2..!!! Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, y_dizz y_d...@... wrote: Besok open gap down, pasukan Detasemen Khusus Anti Bearish akan masuk, berikutnya Barisan Copet Berani Mati akan melakukan penyerangan gelombang kedua. Watchout, yang nekat mau guyur akan DITEMBAK DI TEMBAK...!!! Semuanya siapkan senjata, kita bersiap lakukan penyerangan. Tinggal tunggu komando Embah. Hemat peluru kalian, ONE SHOT ONE MAN. Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, FromBuitenzorg frombuitenzorg@ wrote: Besok beberapa sektor akan coba digebukin lagi, kecuali beberapa saham unggulan akan berupaya melawan :) Rgrds + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
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waktunya tinggal 1 bulan 1 minggu lewat dari itu musti dorong pake keringat darah :d 2009/2/23 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id *giliran berikutnya PGAS... any comment??* ** *mohon maaf mbah, analisa nya sederhana saja, ane beli kemaren hehehe* ** *1. mungkin prof JT dan yg lain bisa lampirin chart PGAS secara Volume, kan chart pasti sama aja, tinggal mau makenya gimana.* ** *2. Nanti bung michel angelo bisa kasi bluemoon di PGAS biar chart nya tambah cantik* ** *3. nah ini dia, bung tasrul men OPtimized agar cocok dengan asumsi saya* ** *4. Bung DE : ini BUMN juga kan...* ** ** *tuh mbah sudah komplit kan bantuan dari teman2 OBers. * ** ** ** ** *disclaimer..?:* *kita liat aja nanti, kalo bener semoga, kalo keliru ya disclaimer ON .* ** ** ** --- Pada *Sen, 23/2/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id*menulis: Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 23 Februari, 2009, 12:23 AM Lagi DIGILIR ... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Irwan Adi Triwibowo irwan...@.. . wrote: AYO BUM_BUM masak kalah sama TAM_TAM. . _ _ __ From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Grunk Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:55 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com; sa...@yahoogroups. com saham%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument * CLSA is bullish on gold and upgrading the price assumptions by around 25% to 27% over the next two years, with potential for short-term upside surprise. * Subsequently, we are raising our earnings forecasts for Antam by 90% to 25%. * Known to be a nickel play, gold contribution to Antam revenue could increase from 10% in 2007 to an expected 30% in 2009 while the contribution to gross profit could jump from 10% to 50% over the same period. * Impact of higher gold price over the longer run to earnings and cash flows is more subdued though, due to relatively short gold reserves life, as reflected in 25% gold contribution to our total DCF estimate. * Antam valuations, PE and EV/EBITDA, are not cheap but the counter offer the only gold exposure in town. * Risks would include stubbornly high ferronickel cost, immediate ban on nickel ore export, and higher than assumed derivative loss. * Upgrade to Outperform. With best regards, Ahmad Solihin (Olie) CLSA Indonesia , Investment Analyst Phone: +62 21 2554 8834 Mobile: +62 812 807 3656 Fax: +62 21 574 6920 ahmad.solihin@ ... mailto:ahmad. soli...@. .. _ _ __ CLSA CLEAN GREEN: Please consider our environment before printing this email. The content of this communication is subject to CLSA Legal and Regulatory Notices. These can be viewed at https://www. clsa.com/ disclaimer. htmlhttps://www.clsa.com/disclaimer.html https://www. clsa.com/ disclaimer. htmlhttps://www.clsa.com/disclaimer.html or sent to you upon request. _ _ __ Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! http://sg.rd. yahoo.com/ id/mail/domainch oice/mail/ signature/ *http:/maihttp://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http:/mai l. promotions.yahoo. com/newdomains/ id/ Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! -- Pemanasan global? Apa sih itu? http://id.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AjO3kFB4MH9t8_Wg.IsJRzLtRgx.;_ylv=3?qid=20080916002637AALjeQI Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers!
[obrolan-bandar] Re: A Snap Punchliner...ADU ARGUMEN yg sehat...
Pergerakan harga saham itu mencerminkan nilai perusahaan di masa depan. Harga akan meningkat kalau investor yakin tahun depan emiten mampu meningkatkan asetnya, meningkatkan pendapatannya, meningkatkan laba bersihnya, meningkatkan devidennya. INVESTOR CUMA MAU ITU, tidak peduli bagaimana caranya. So, what the hell with the situation now. The million dollar question is : CAN YOU PREDICT WHAT HAPPEN IN 2010, 2011, AND 2012? Apakah masih kayak gini? If you can answers right, sure you can beat the market. CAN YOU? Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, RATU SIMA ratus...@... wrote: Okay, Embah. Noted. I respect you in person. As I'm still in my 20s, I will post in a little bit Slank language. Bahassa Perdana ney... Jadi lo semua gw harap sabar, super duper sabar sama kondisi market yang lagi berjalan. Secara fundamental big picturenya juga masey bearish abis. Gw masey di Dubai dan sekarang ney lagi ditemenin ama temen gw dari Nakheel. Dia kasey bilang proyek real estate sama konstruksi di sini tuh perlahan tapi pasti mulai stuck. Gw denger proyek senilai sekitar 600 M USD (bkn rupiah yah?) mule disuspen ama di cancel. Lo bayangin aja tuh. Lagian secara kebanyakan penduduk di sini pendatang, arsitek, pebisnis, pegawe hotel, bahkan pembokat ney pendatang. Mgkn 82% kale. Nah masalahnya gini, yang bangun Dubai tuh orang-orang jauh juga loh. Asian banyak, orang Korea juga. Di sini pendatang tuh boleh punya properti tapi non- tanah yah. Nah waktu resesi mule melanda gini, mereka pada cabut. Alias kabur getu. Kabur dari hutang dan kredit lah. Lagian hukum di sini agak aneh loh, jadi berhutang tuh kaya kurang 'diperkenankan' sama syariah di sini. Jadi ada ancaman hukumnya. Makanya tuh orang-orang pada milih kabur daripada dipenjara. Padahal gila bo, pembangunan real estate sama konstruksi di sini tuh gila-gilaan! Makanya sering disebut ikon. Mule Burj Al Arab, the Palm Islands, dan yang paling gokil tuh the Rotating Towers-nya. Gokil banget ney apartemen tuh bisa muter 360 derajat. Jadi kalo lo tinggal di sini dalam sebulan bisa ngadep ke arah view yang berbeda-beda. Ya getu deh. Mudah-mudahan sey nggak parah-parah amat, cuma orang pada tengsin juga ngeliat perkembangan kondisi di sini. Gw mpe ngimpi ney coba DKI Jakarta bisa kaya gene. Keren! Cuma 1 hal: maju yah maju tapi jangan karena ekspansi kredit utawa leverage mulu. Tar jadi boomerang baru NYAHOK. Nah, secara Amerika, Eropa, Timur Tengah masey mengerikan getu dimohon dengan sangat yah loh kudu sabar dulu. Tar gw lanjutin kok. Makasih yah, Aimee
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: A Snap Punchliner...ADU ARGUMEN yg sehat...
Ha ha... Cuman di market BEI trus terang ajah kita masey 'wait see' abis. Gmn lagi di sini gw andelin komo, energi ma sejenis-sejenis 'moge-mogean'. Tapi secara minyak lagi kaga jelas, gw belum mo masuk krn gw lihat saatnya belum pas ajah. Kan kita orang ngetung dengan cermat antara risk ama reward-nya. Gw da usul ney buat sustainability index ke depan, mending weighting index tuh diratain di all sectors. Beratnya kalo nafasnya terlalu dikasih ke komo, energi, mining doang yah waktu terjadi crash gene babak belur juga trus mo naekinnya juga keberatan karena di mana-mana sektor-sektor ini kan ngikut ke minyak. Emang sey ada T*KM, I*AT, B*CA. Cuma kan masey kalah ma komo the Ganks. Cuma untuk masarinnya emang agak susah kale, secara kita jualannya yah barang-barang bagusnya yah itu doang. Gw lihat iklan BUMI. Gw cm berdoa, semoga manajemennya benar-benar tulus dan ikhlas menjaga komitmen 'barunya'. Secara 'anak bangsa' getu loh. Dia pegang barang bagus, mau apa lagi kalo gak bangun reputasi yang bagus juga. Ujungnya nguntungin semua pihak. Kalo weighted sectoral index-nya merata dan emiten-emiten bermental sehat, proses 'giliran' bisa berlangsung baek dan 'wajar'. Getu kale... Gw mo jalan ney... okay please take care of your capital and utmostly preserve your profit. Love, Aimee
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Emang ada apaan Bos Hmin? Bilang dong, jadi deg-degan nih. Kekekek... Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Boys n Girls boysngi...@... wrote: waktunya tinggal 1 bulan 1 minggu lewat dari itu musti dorong pake keringat darah :d 2009/2/23 artomoro9 artomo...@... *giliran berikutnya PGAS... any comment??* ** *mohon maaf mbah, analisa nya sederhana saja, ane beli kemaren hehehe* ** *1. mungkin prof JT dan yg lain bisa lampirin chart PGAS secara Volume, kan chart pasti sama aja, tinggal mau makenya gimana.* ** *2. Nanti bung michel angelo bisa kasi bluemoon di PGAS biar chart nya tambah cantik* ** *3. nah ini dia, bung tasrul men OPtimized agar cocok dengan asumsi saya* ** *4. Bung DE : ini BUMN juga kan...* ** ** *tuh mbah sudah komplit kan bantuan dari teman2 OBers. * ** ** ** ** *disclaimer..?:* *kita liat aja nanti, kalo bener semoga, kalo keliru ya disclaimer ON .* ** ** **
[obrolan-bandar] China Mine Blast May Boost Coal Prices
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123538321359647161.html?mod=fox_australian SHANGHAI -- China's coal prices could rally if Beijing orders stringent safety checks at coal mines in the wake of a blast in northern Shanxi province on Sunday, which killed at least 74 miners. Analysts say China was facing a coal output surplus of more than 50 million metric tons this year before the fatal explosion, but this could fall sharply and shore up prices if mines are forced to close temporarily or permanently. Beijing has long pledged to improve safety at its coal mines, and last year shut more than 1,000 shafts that it considered unsafe. But a death toll of 3,200 people last year, while representing a 15% decline from 2007, means the country's coal mines remain the world's deadliest.  What sets this accident apart is that it happened at a state-owned coal mine of relatively large size, said Li Chaolin, a market watcher with the China Coal Transportation and Distribution Association. So it is possible that stringent safety checks will be carried out not only in small coal mines but also in large ones with good safety records, he said. View Slideshow At Least 74 Killed in China Mine Blast Tunlan coal mine, where the explosion occurred, is a large, modernized coal mine under the state-owned Shanxi Coking Coal Group with annual coal production capacity of 5 million tons, according to the official Xinhua news agency. The group's major products include high-quality coking coal - a raw material used in steel production. Prior to the blast, analysts believed coal prices were set for a sustained period of weakness due to falling demand from power plants and other industries. Coal mines that were scheduled to resume output after annual checks and spring ending the demand for coal for heating also were expected to weigh on prices. Coal accounts for two-thirds of China's total energy mix, and around 90% of output is from small coal mines, defined as having a capacity of less than 300,000 tons a year. Shanxi province produces a quarter of China's coal output, which last year totaled 2.62 billion tons. Ma Xiaoguang, a coking coal analyst at Umeta, said all coal mines in Shanxi below 300,000 tons of annual capacity shut down in mid-December due to sluggish downstream demand and annual safety checks. She said the mines were originally scheduled to resume production by the end of March, when the annual meeting of China's legislature is due to wrap up, but now it seems likely the reopenings will be delayed. Proximity to the National People's Congress means the accident will likely come up as a topic during the meeting and the potential ramifications will be greater, Ms. Ma added. Xinhua said Beijing has ordered a probe into the blast, and three officials at the mine have been dismissed. Jin Yang Powered by my VerryBerry®
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: A Snap Punchliner...ADU ARGUMEN yg sehat...
Bahasa jawa medok dong Aimee Ky dulu itu Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:32:31 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: A Snap Punchliner...ADU ARGUMEN yg sehat... Aimee.., bahasanya gak asiiikk !.., we want Aimee yg dulu.., itu loh, yg pake om-tante.. Gituuu...hehe.., nyang ini mah biasa.., sama aja kayak baca tulisan pak AA... Hahaha.., canda boss.. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Baso TAHU tahub...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 04:19:17 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: A Snap Punchliner...ADU ARGUMEN yg sehat... Hore nulis Indonesia! Wah logat Jambeee!? --- On Mon, 2/23/09, RATU SIMA ratus...@gmail.com wrote: From: RATU SIMA ratus...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: A Snap Punchliner...ADU ARGUMEN yg sehat To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 12:14 PM Okay, Embah. Noted. I respect you in person. As I'm still in my 20s, I will post in a little bit Slank language. Bahassa Perdana ney... Jadi lo semua gw harap sabar, super duper sabar sama kondisi market yang lagi berjalan. Secara fundamental big picturenya juga masey bearish abis. Gw masey di Dubai dan sekarang ney lagi ditemenin ama temen gw dari Nakheel.. Dia kasey bilang proyek real estate sama konstruksi di sini tuh perlahan tapi pasti mulai stuck. Gw denger proyek senilai sekitar 600 M USD (bkn rupiah yah?) mule disuspen ama di cancel. Lo bayangin aja tuh. Lagian secara kebanyakan penduduk di sini pendatang, arsitek, pebisnis, pegawe hotel, bahkan pembokat ney pendatang. Mgkn 82% kale. Nah masalahnya gini, yang bangun Dubai tuh orang-orang jauh juga loh. Asian banyak, orang Korea juga. Di sini pendatang tuh boleh punya properti tapi non-tanah yah. Nah waktu resesi mule melanda gini, mereka pada cabut. Alias kabur getu. Kabur dari hutang dan kredit lah. Lagian hukum di sini agak aneh loh, jadi berhutang tuh kaya kurang 'diperkenankan' sama syariah di sini. Jadi ada ancaman hukumnya. Makanya tuh orang-orang pada milih kabur daripada dipenjara. Padahal gila bo, pembangunan real estate sama konstruksi di sini tuh gila-gilaan! Makanya sering disebut ikon. Mule Burj Al Arab, the Palm Islands, dan yang paling gokil tuh the Rotating Towers-nya. Gokil banget ney apartemen tuh bisa muter 360 derajat. Jadi kalo lo tinggal di sini dalam sebulan bisa ngadep ke arah view yang berbeda-beda. Ya getu deh. Mudah-mudahan sey nggak parah-parah amat, cuma orang pada tengsin juga ngeliat perkembangan kondisi di sini. Gw mpe ngimpi ney coba DKI Jakarta bisa kaya gene. Keren! Cuma 1 hal: maju yah maju tapi jangan karena ekspansi kredit utawa leverage mulu. Tar jadi boomerang baru NYAHOK. Nah, secara Amerika, Eropa, Timur Tengah masey mengerikan getu dimohon dengan sangat yah loh kudu sabar dulu. Tar gw lanjutin kok. Makasih yah, Aimee
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Besok Siap digebukin...
Wah ampun... Gue diomelin orang sekampung deh. Hahaha... Lain kali kalo mau prediksi, saya pake bahasa Shakespeare kaya Aimee deh. Dijamin tuh BD bakal bingung. Kekekek... Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, indeksbei3...@... wrote: Mas Yudizz ribut sih Ane mau borong UNTR di 5000 ga jd deh.. :) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: JsxTrader jsxtra...@... Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:26:46 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Besok Siap digebukin... Lu juga sih ribut aje open gap down.., ane gak dapet barang dah... Kekekee Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: y_dizz y_d...@... Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:20:42 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Besok Siap digebukin... Ternyata sebelum pasukan khusus dikeluarkan, yang mau ngegebukin udah ditangkep duluan ama Hansip. Kekekek... Tidak perlu ngeluarin banyak amunisi ternyata. TETAP SIAGA, serangan balasan bisa datang sewaktu2..!!! Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, y_dizz y_dizz@ wrote: Besok open gap down, pasukan Detasemen Khusus Anti Bearish akan masuk, berikutnya Barisan Copet Berani Mati akan melakukan penyerangan gelombang kedua. Watchout, yang nekat mau guyur akan DITEMBAK DI TEMBAK...!!! Semuanya siapkan senjata, kita bersiap lakukan penyerangan. Tinggal tunggu komando Embah. Hemat peluru kalian, ONE SHOT ONE MAN. Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, FromBuitenzorg frombuitenzorg@ wrote: Besok beberapa sektor akan coba digebukin lagi, kecuali beberapa saham unggulan akan berupaya melawan :) Rgrds + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: next pgas Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument
ya ampyun.. Jend yg td n maren2 Offer gede di 2075 and 2100 yah..akumulasi berat di 1950 sm 2000 ye Pantes ga mau ngegas nih.. Teman-teman, Jend mau lihat Chart PGAS nih. Bagaimana kalau kita kirimin Jend Chart PGAS versi masing2.. Salam Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:44:37 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: next pgas Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument giliran berikutnya PGAS... any comment...?? mohon maaf mbah, analisa nya sederhana saja, ane beli kemaren hehehe 1. mungkin prof JT dan yg lain bisa lampirin chart PGAS secara Volume, kan chart pasti sama aja, tinggal mau makenya gimana. 2. Nanti bung michel angelo bisa kasi bluemoon di PGAS biar chart nya tambah cantik 3. nah ini dia, bung tasrul men OPtimized agar cocok dengan asumsi saya 4. Bung DE : ini BUMN juga kan... tuh mbah sudah komplit kan bantuan dari teman2 OBers. disclaimer..?: kita liat aja nanti, kalo bener semoga, kalo keliru ya disclaimer ON .. --- Pada Sen, 23/2/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id menulis: Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 23 Februari, 2009, 12:23 AM Lagi DIGILIR ... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Irwan Adi Triwibowo irwan...@.. . wrote: AYO BUM_BUM masak kalah sama TAM_TAM. . From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Joe Grunk Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:55 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com; sa...@yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument * CLSA is bullish on gold and upgrading the price assumptions by around 25% to 27% over the next two years, with potential for short-term upside surprise. * Subsequently, we are raising our earnings forecasts for Antam by 90% to 25%. * Known to be a nickel play, gold contribution to Antam revenue could increase from 10% in 2007 to an expected 30% in 2009 while the contribution to gross profit could jump from 10% to 50% over the same period. * Impact of higher gold price over the longer run to earnings and cash flows is more subdued though, due to relatively short gold reserves life, as reflected in 25% gold contribution to our total DCF estimate. * Antam valuations, PE and EV/EBITDA, are not cheap but the counter offer the only gold exposure in town. * Risks would include stubbornly high ferronickel cost, immediate ban on nickel ore export, and higher than assumed derivative loss. * Upgrade to Outperform. With best regards, Ahmad Solihin (Olie) CLSA Indonesia , Investment Analyst Phone: +62 21 2554 8834 Mobile: +62 812 807 3656 Fax: +62 21 574 6920 ahmad.solihin@ ... mailto:ahmad. soli...@. .. CLSA CLEAN GREEN: Please consider our environment before printing this email. The content of this communication is subject to CLSA Legal and Regulatory Notices. These can be viewed at https://www. clsa.com/ disclaimer. html https://www. clsa.com/ disclaimer. html or sent to you upon request. Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! http://sg.rd. yahoo.com/ id/mail/domainch oice/mail/ signature/ *http:/mai l. promotions.yahoo. com/newdomains/ id/ Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! Firefox 3: Lebih Cepat, Lebih Aman, Dapat Disesuaikan dan Gratis.http://downloads.yahoo.com/id/firefox
Re: next pgas Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument
Kan akhir Quarter 1 di akhir Maret Bro. Jadi dihitung dari sekarang ajah. Kan Lapkeu-nya! Love, Aimee
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: A Snap Punchliner...ADU ARGUMEN yg sehat...
Okay Aimee sweetie.. Love your post. EL bisa ngomong gaul jg ga yah? Secara dia jg Mid 20.. Salam Tanjew wery mush Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: RATU SIMA ratus...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:53:37 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: A Snap Punchliner...ADU ARGUMEN yg sehat... Ha ha... Cuman di market BEI trus terang ajah kita masey 'wait see' abis. Gmn lagi di sini gw andelin komo, energi ma sejenis-sejenis 'moge-mogean'. Tapi secara minyak lagi kaga jelas, gw belum mo masuk krn gw lihat saatnya belum pas ajah. Kan kita orang ngetung dengan cermat antara risk ama reward-nya. Gw da usul ney buat sustainability index ke depan, mending weighting index tuh diratain di all sectors. Beratnya kalo nafasnya terlalu dikasih ke komo, energi, mining doang yah waktu terjadi crash gene babak belur juga trus mo naekinnya juga keberatan karena di mana-mana sektor-sektor ini kan ngikut ke minyak. Emang sey ada T*KM, I*AT, B*CA. Cuma kan masey kalah ma komo the Ganks. Cuma untuk masarinnya emang agak susah kale, secara kita jualannya yah barang-barang bagusnya yah itu doang. Gw lihat iklan BUMI. Gw cm berdoa, semoga manajemennya benar-benar tulus dan ikhlas menjaga komitmen 'barunya'. Secara 'anak bangsa' getu loh. Dia pegang barang bagus, mau apa lagi kalo gak bangun reputasi yang bagus juga. Ujungnya nguntungin semua pihak. Kalo weighted sectoral index-nya merata dan emiten-emiten bermental sehat, proses 'giliran' bisa berlangsung baek dan 'wajar'. Getu kale... Gw mo jalan ney... okay please take care of your capital and utmostly preserve your profit. Love, Aimee
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Besok Siap digebukin...
Ga papa Bozz Ane seneng aja lihat orang2 sini pada Happy..ga kaya kemarin2.. Tapi gw ditinggal Moge nih, padahal gw incer 2 weeks..mau buy jd bye bye :) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: y_dizz y_d...@mail2web.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:09:01 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Besok Siap digebukin... Wah ampun... Gue diomelin orang sekampung deh. Hahaha... Lain kali kalo mau prediksi, saya pake bahasa Shakespeare kaya Aimee deh. Dijamin tuh BD bakal bingung. Kekekek... Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, indeksbei3...@... wrote: Mas Yudizz ribut sih Ane mau borong UNTR di 5000 ga jd deh.. :) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@... Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:26:46 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Besok Siap digebukin... Lu juga sih ribut aje open gap down.., ane gak dapet barang dah... Kekekee Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: y_dizz y_d...@... Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:20:42 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Besok Siap digebukin... Ternyata sebelum pasukan khusus dikeluarkan, yang mau ngegebukin udah ditangkep duluan ama Hansip. Kekekek... Tidak perlu ngeluarin banyak amunisi ternyata. TETAP SIAGA, serangan balasan bisa datang sewaktu2..!!! Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, y_dizz y_dizz@ wrote: Besok open gap down, pasukan Detasemen Khusus Anti Bearish akan masuk, berikutnya Barisan Copet Berani Mati akan melakukan penyerangan gelombang kedua. Watchout, yang nekat mau guyur akan DITEMBAK DI TEMBAK...!!! Semuanya siapkan senjata, kita bersiap lakukan penyerangan. Tinggal tunggu komando Embah. Hemat peluru kalian, ONE SHOT ONE MAN. Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, FromBuitenzorg frombuitenzorg@ wrote: Besok beberapa sektor akan coba digebukin lagi, kecuali beberapa saham unggulan akan berupaya melawan :) Rgrds + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: next pgas Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument
Kalau LK PGAS sih 27 Maret Aimee. Kalau UNTR tgl 26 Feb ANTM 27/28 Feb. Siap-siap ya, Sell on News mungkin. Pak DE Maaf ane berisik Mohon dimaafkan Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: RATU SIMA ratus...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:17:12 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: next pgas Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument Kan akhir Quarter 1 di akhir Maret Bro. Jadi dihitung dari sekarang ajah. Kan Lapkeu-nya! Love, Aimee
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: A Snap Punchliner...ADU ARGUMEN yg sehat...
BUMI pasang iklan di tipi dubai juga? Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: RATU SIMA ratus...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:53:37 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: A Snap Punchliner...ADU ARGUMEN yg sehat... Ha ha... Cuman di market BEI trus terang ajah kita masey 'wait see' abis. Gmn lagi di sini gw andelin komo, energi ma sejenis-sejenis 'moge-mogean'. Tapi secara minyak lagi kaga jelas, gw belum mo masuk krn gw lihat saatnya belum pas ajah. Kan kita orang ngetung dengan cermat antara risk ama reward-nya. Gw da usul ney buat sustainability index ke depan, mending weighting index tuh diratain di all sectors. Beratnya kalo nafasnya terlalu dikasih ke komo, energi, mining doang yah waktu terjadi crash gene babak belur juga trus mo naekinnya juga keberatan karena di mana-mana sektor-sektor ini kan ngikut ke minyak. Emang sey ada T*KM, I*AT, B*CA. Cuma kan masey kalah ma komo the Ganks. Cuma untuk masarinnya emang agak susah kale, secara kita jualannya yah barang-barang bagusnya yah itu doang. Gw lihat iklan BUMI. Gw cm berdoa, semoga manajemennya benar-benar tulus dan ikhlas menjaga komitmen 'barunya'. Secara 'anak bangsa' getu loh. Dia pegang barang bagus, mau apa lagi kalo gak bangun reputasi yang bagus juga. Ujungnya nguntungin semua pihak. Kalo weighted sectoral index-nya merata dan emiten-emiten bermental sehat, proses 'giliran' bisa berlangsung baek dan 'wajar'. Getu kale... Gw mo jalan ney... okay please take care of your capital and utmostly preserve your profit. Love, Aimee
next pgas Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Fw: ANTM (TP Rp1,275) - CLSA: The gold argument
will ISAT going up and close empty gap 5000-5450?hehe
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Pak DEEE Aimee ngomong bahasa kite n. Ayo turun gunung. Mumpung lagi cakep 2009/2/23 RATU SIMA ratus...@gmail.com Om BT, Yang bener ney? Rupiah mo 9.000 - 10.000? Yg gw liat beda Om. Malah keknya mo ke 13.000 - 15.000 dlm jangka menengah. Uncle Sam aja jor-joran ney jual bond, buat palagi kalo kaga buat dongkrak dollar dulu. Mending jangan terlalu berharap penguatan rupiah dulu. Buat nahan rupiah tuh modalnya kaga kecil. Love, Aimee
Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] LTLS Bagi Dividen
Ohh, dia ngomong pake bahasa manusia ya...kekekeke... Tapi jangan kawatir, dia 100% lelaki tulen sih :) Rgrds \::Pak_AA:\: abdul.rahman.ra...@... wrote: Pak DEEE Aimee ngomong bahasa kite n. Ayo turun gunung. Mumpung lagi cakep 2009/2/23 RATU SIMA ratus...@... Om BT, Yang bener ney? Rupiah mo 9.000 - 10.000? Yg gw liat beda Om. Malah keknya mo ke 13.000 - 15.000 dlm jangka menengah. Uncle Sam aja jor- joran ney jual bond, buat palagi kalo kaga buat dongkrak dollar dulu. Mending jangan terlalu berharap penguatan rupiah dulu. Buat nahan rupiah tuh modalnya kaga kecil. Love, Aimee
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: A Snap Punchliner...ADU ARGUMEN yg sehat...
[?][?][?][?][?][?] Cuman pas ngomong bahasa kite, yg diomongin dubai duank Pak AA juga bisa :p :p :p Koq mirip kang Ocoy yah Jadi kangen sama kang Ocoy ney On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:32 PM, JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote: Aimee.., bahasanya gak asiiikk !.., we want Aimee yg dulu.., itu loh, yg pake om-tante.. Gituuu...hehe.., nyang ini mah biasa.., sama aja kayak baca tulisan pak AA... Hahaha.., canda boss.. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry(R) -- *From*: Baso TAHU *Date*: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 04:19:17 -0800 (PST) *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: A Snap Punchliner...ADU ARGUMEN yg sehat... Hore nulis Indonesia! Wah logat Jambeee!? --- On *Mon, 2/23/09, RATU SIMA ratus...@gmail.com* wrote: From: RATU SIMA ratus...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: A Snap Punchliner...ADU ARGUMEN yg sehat... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 12:14 PM Okay, Embah. Noted. I respect you in person. As I'm still in my 20s, I will post in a little bit Slank language. Bahassa Perdana ney... Jadi lo semua gw harap sabar, super duper sabar sama kondisi market yang lagi berjalan. Secara fundamental big picturenya juga masey bearish abis. Gw masey di Dubai dan sekarang ney lagi ditemenin ama temen gw dari Nakheel. Dia kasey bilang proyek real estate sama konstruksi di sini tuh perlahan tapi pasti mulai stuck. Gw denger proyek senilai sekitar 600 M USD (bkn rupiah yah?) mule disuspen ama di cancel. Lo bayangin aja tuh. Lagian secara kebanyakan penduduk di sini pendatang, arsitek, pebisnis, pegawe hotel, bahkan pembokat ney pendatang. Mgkn 82% kale. Nah masalahnya gini, yang bangun Dubai tuh orang-orang jauh juga loh. Asian banyak, orang Korea juga. Di sini pendatang tuh boleh punya properti tapi non-tanah yah.. Nah waktu resesi mule melanda gini, mereka pada cabut. Alias kabur getu. Kabur dari hutang dan kredit lah. Lagian hukum di sini agak aneh loh, jadi berhutang tuh kaya kurang 'diperkenankan' sama syariah di sini. Jadi ada ancaman hukumnya. Makanya tuh orang-orang pada milih kabur daripada dipenjara.. Padahal gila bo, pembangunan real estate sama konstruksi di sini tuh gila-gilaan! Makanya sering disebut ikon. Mule Burj Al Arab, the Palm Islands, dan yang paling gokil tuh the Rotating Towers-nya. Gokil banget ney apartemen tuh bisa muter 360 derajat. Jadi kalo lo tinggal di sini dalam sebulan bisa ngadep ke arah view yang berbeda-beda. Ya getu deh. Mudah-mudahan sey nggak parah-parah amat, cuma orang pada tengsin juga ngeliat perkembangan kondisi di sini. Gw mpe ngimpi ney coba DKI Jakarta bisa kaya gene. Keren! Cuma 1 hal: maju yah maju tapi jangan karena ekspansi kredit utawa leverage mulu. Tar jadi boomerang baru NYAHOK. Nah, secara Amerika, Eropa, Timur Tengah masey mengerikan getu dimohon dengan sangat yah loh kudu sabar dulu. Tar gw lanjutin kok. Makasih yah, Aimee 338.gif360.gif
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka
lagi2 kasus yg sama spt DBS, pas kena margin call yah force sell, lagian yg benar aja masa saham TRIL di masukin dalam transaksi margin, no comment dech, kita mah rakyat kecil, nonton aja di pinggiran ;D correct me if i'm wrong thx regards (bukan siapa-siapa dan tidak ingin menjadi siapa-siapa) --- On Mon, 2/23/09, komaru muchtar komar200...@yahoo.com wrote: From: komaru muchtar komar200...@yahoo.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 3:58 AM Lily Wijaya Dikabarkan Jadi Tersangka Topsaham-Presdir PT Merrill Lynch Indonesia Lily Wijaya dikabarkan jadi tersangka kasus penggelapan aset-aset milik nasabah.Aset nasabah tersebut berupa saham yang dijual tanpa sepengetahuan pemiliknya. Menurut sumber kasus tersebut lily dijadikan tersangka oleh Mabes Polri atas dugaan penggelapan, pencemaran nama baik, dan perbuatan tidak menyenangkan, yang diatur dalam pasal 372, 310 dan 335 KUHP Get your new Email address! Grab the Email name you've always wanted before someone else does!
[obrolan-bandar] Re: A Snap Punchliner...ADU ARGUMEN yg sehat...
... bener nih ... kang ocoy kemana ya ? .. kok udah lama gak ada kabar na lg ? ... miss u kang ocoy ... mampir ke warung mbah lg donk kang ... plss ... :) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, \::Pak_AA:\: abdul.rahman.ra...@... wrote: [?][?][?][?][?][?] Cuman pas ngomong bahasa kite, yg diomongin dubai duank Pak AA juga bisa :p :p :p Koq mirip kang Ocoy yah Jadi kangen sama kang Ocoy ney On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:32 PM, JsxTrader jsxtra...@... wrote: Aimee.., bahasanya gak asiiikk !.., we want Aimee yg dulu.., itu loh, yg pake om-tante.. Gituuu...hehe.., nyang ini mah biasa.., sama aja kayak baca tulisan pak AA... Hahaha.., canda boss.. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry(R) -- *From*: Baso TAHU *Date*: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 04:19:17 -0800 (PST) *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: A Snap Punchliner...ADU ARGUMEN yg sehat... Hore nulis Indonesia! Wah logat Jambeee!? --- On *Mon, 2/23/09, RATU SIMA ratus...@...* wrote: From: RATU SIMA ratus...@... Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: A Snap Punchliner...ADU ARGUMEN yg sehat... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 12:14 PM Okay, Embah. Noted. I respect you in person. As I'm still in my 20s, I will post in a little bit Slank language. Bahassa Perdana ney... Jadi lo semua gw harap sabar, super duper sabar sama kondisi market yang lagi berjalan. Secara fundamental big picturenya juga masey bearish abis. Gw masey di Dubai dan sekarang ney lagi ditemenin ama temen gw dari Nakheel. Dia kasey bilang proyek real estate sama konstruksi di sini tuh perlahan tapi pasti mulai stuck. Gw denger proyek senilai sekitar 600 M USD (bkn rupiah yah?) mule disuspen ama di cancel. Lo bayangin aja tuh. Lagian secara kebanyakan penduduk di sini pendatang, arsitek, pebisnis, pegawe hotel, bahkan pembokat ney pendatang. Mgkn 82% kale. Nah masalahnya gini, yang bangun Dubai tuh orang-orang jauh juga loh. Asian banyak, orang Korea juga. Di sini pendatang tuh boleh punya properti tapi non-tanah yah.. Nah waktu resesi mule melanda gini, mereka pada cabut. Alias kabur getu. Kabur dari hutang dan kredit lah. Lagian hukum di sini agak aneh loh, jadi berhutang tuh kaya kurang 'diperkenankan' sama syariah di sini. Jadi ada ancaman hukumnya. Makanya tuh orang-orang pada milih kabur daripada dipenjara.. Padahal gila bo, pembangunan real estate sama konstruksi di sini tuh gila-gilaan! Makanya sering disebut ikon. Mule Burj Al Arab, the Palm Islands, dan yang paling gokil tuh the Rotating Towers-nya. Gokil banget ney apartemen tuh bisa muter 360 derajat. Jadi kalo lo tinggal di sini dalam sebulan bisa ngadep ke arah view yang berbeda-beda. Ya getu deh. Mudah-mudahan sey nggak parah-parah amat, cuma orang pada tengsin juga ngeliat perkembangan kondisi di sini. Gw mpe ngimpi ney coba DKI Jakarta bisa kaya gene. Keren! Cuma 1 hal: maju yah maju tapi jangan karena ekspansi kredit utawa leverage mulu. Tar jadi boomerang baru NYAHOK. Nah, secara Amerika, Eropa, Timur Tengah masey mengerikan getu dimohon dengan sangat yah loh kudu sabar dulu. Tar gw lanjutin kok. Makasih yah, Aimee
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka
Sebenernya mau saham kecil atau besar nggak ngaruh, dasarnya apa yg dipakai utk masuk 'marginable list'? Coba ANTM, INCO masih bisa ditransaksikan margin, gw pengen tau barapa banyak orang kejedut margin gara2 2 saham itu. List saham2 yg boleh dipakai margin dari BEI sangat subjektif, harusnya aturan simple aja, kalo yg dijadikan patokan past performance , ya kejedut sendiri. Trus ya broker disiplin, jgn cari fee 'dapur' aja, FORCE SELL cepat kalo ratio nggak masuk lagi. Di Amerika saham yg boleh utk jaminan/transaksi margin yg harganya diatas 10$, sering saham tutup diatas 10$ pertamakali disebut 'TEENAGE STOCK'. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, druidsz agustinus druids...@yahoo.com wrote: From: druidsz agustinus druids...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 2:13 PM lagi2 kasus yg sama spt DBS, pas kena margin call yah force sell, lagian yg benar aja masa saham TRIL di masukin dalam transaksi margin, no comment dech, kita mah rakyat kecil, nonton aja di pinggiran ;D correct me if i'm wrong thx regards (bukan siapa-siapa dan tidak ingin menjadi siapa-siapa) --- On Mon, 2/23/09, komaru muchtar komar2002sg@ yahoo.com wrote: From: komaru muchtar komar2002sg@ yahoo.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Lily Wijaya Jadi Tersangka To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 3:58 AM Lily Wijaya Dikabarkan Jadi Tersangka Topsaham-Presdir PT Merrill Lynch Indonesia Lily Wijaya dikabarkan jadi tersangka kasus penggelapan aset-aset milik nasabah.Aset nasabah tersebut berupa saham yang dijual tanpa sepengetahuan pemiliknya. Menurut sumber kasus tersebut lily dijadikan tersangka oleh Mabes Polri atas dugaan penggelapan, pencemaran nama baik, dan perbuatan tidak menyenangkan, yang diatur dalam pasal 372, 310 dan 335 KUHP Get your new Email address! Grab the Email name you've always wanted before someone else does!
Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] CItigroup
Dilusinya gila2an. Sebenernya diambil 40% saja udah hampir nasionalisasi, kan
tinggal 11% lagi govt jadi mayoritas.
Kasian investor lama macam TEMASEK yg ambil ML di 19$ trus merger dgn BofA
sudah kedilusi 1/3 awal desember 2008 sekarang harga BofA dikisaran 3-4$,
desember BofA masih diatas 10$, oktober masih diatas 20$hiih pantesan
TEMASEK ganti CEO dgn ex-CEO BHP. Soalnya oposisi di Singapore udah gampang
bikin alasan gimana istri PM disana habiskan duit rakyat. Dia pikir krisis sub
prime macam, krismon Asia 1998 kali krisis 1-2 taun pulih.
Itu duit utk beli ML hasil jual sebagian saham2 di Indonesia.
--- On Sat, 2/21/09, Andrian Kurniady andr...@kurniady.net wrote:
From: Andrian Kurniady andr...@kurniady.net
Subject: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] CItigroup
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 3:05 PM
Waduh saya baru aja mikir mau buka di Citibank (biar bisa transfer2
dengan account Citibank di luar negeri),
begitu liat minimum relationship account value 50jt, batal dah hahaha.
Mungkin klo udah desperate pol dia bakal melebarkan targetnya ke nasabah
retail jg :P
-Kurniady
2009/2/21 Cumi Goreng Tepung cumie...@gmail. com
Citibank Indonesia gimana kabarnya? Heboh bener dia mempertahankan
nasabahnya. Relationship manager kirim surat bilang bank mereka
baik-baik saja, please do not withdraw your fund. :-)
Nasabah kartu kreditnya juga dirayu dengan bunga rendah 15 persen
pertahun, padahal biasanya 36-40 persen pertahun.
Saatnya pindah ke Bank Mandiri aja nih?
On 2/21/09, Boys n Girls boysngi...@gmail. com wrote:
Yup Kalau ada nasionalisasi yang sial pemegang saham lama. Sahamnya bisa
terdulisi habis.
Tapi bukankah sekarang BOA dan C juga sudah mau habis ??
Betul-betul gak ngerti berita sekarang.. gak nyambung
Padahal kalau Citygroup dan BOA dinasionalisasi. .. jauh lebih bagus buat
ekonomi riil di sana.
Disclaimer ya.. soalnya gak ngerti
2009/2/21 sylar_fang sylar_f...@yahoo. co.id
... Happpy Birthday bung HMin ... :) ... smoga chuan trus ya ...
trus chuan na bagi2 ke ane juga ... hehehe ...
oya bung Hmin kl citigroup dinasionalisasi gmn dgn nasib pemegang
saham lain na ? apakah spt kasus na bank century yg diambil alih
LPS? ... oya krismon dulu waktu banyak bank swasta yg diambil alih
BPPN gmn ya dgn nasib pemegang saham lain na selaen major holder
tentu na ? ... apakah saham mereka terdilusi ? atau hilang bgt
saja? ... mohon pencerahan na
:)
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups. com,
Boys n Girls boysngi...@. ..
wrote:
Mau tanya nih
Emang apa jeleknya sih kalau bank seperti Citygroup di
Nasionalisasi
Saya jadi bingung sendiri dengan judul di CNBC..
Citygroup dan BOA drop on nasionalisation fear
Gak make sense untuk saya. Dalam pikiran saya.. Mereka berdua kalau
dinasionalisasi justru bagus untuk perekonomian. Mirip indonesia
dulu
2009/2/21 vaulst...@.. .
Nationalisasi kayaknya bakal terjadi..
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*From*: Yuliawati tan
*Date*: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 08:10:52 -0800 (PST)
*To*:
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups. com
*Subject*: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] CItigroup
Citigrup maupun bank of america bisa aja sahamnya jd
0seperti milist
saya dulu wkt citi msh di hrg 10 $ bahwa saham yg di bail out
akan beresiko
ZERO priceklo dlm 60 hr ke depan ga ada penyelesaian dr mslh
yg sedang
di usut,maka saham2 tersebut akan di ambil alih govklo dah
gitu bisa di
tebak deh ga bakal gerak klo ga ada news.
salam,
Yulia
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*Dari:* Vaulstrad vaulst...@.. .
*Kepada:*
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*Terkirim:* Jumat, 20 Februari, 2009 22:39:20
*Topik:* [obrolan-bandar] CItigroup
Gila yah.. Citigroup tinggal 2 dollar.. emang bener katanya bisa
di
bawah 1 dollar
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