Re: [ob] CINA jebol tuh
tadi ada yg kirim artikel dari bloomberg (lewat ym ..sayang kehapus) katanya pemerintah cina akan membatasi pinjaman bank karena disinyalir banyak yg dipake main di pasar saham . Likuiditas akan mengkerut market china akan terhambat kenaikannya or mungkin terus turun. ntar saya coba liat di bloomberg.com deh --- On Thu, 8/20/09, kidod25 kido...@yahoo.com wrote: From: kidod25 kido...@yahoo.com Subject: [ob] CINA jebol tuh To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 10:53 PM http://finance. yahoo.com/ q/ta?s=01. SSt=3ml= onz=mq= lp=m20,m50, m100,m200 a=m26-12- 9,fs,r14 c= MA 100 udah jebol di cina IHSG sptnya akan nyusul 1-2 bulan ke depan., http://finance. yahoo.com/ q/ta?s=^JKSEt=6ml= onz=mq= lp=m100, m50,m20a= m26-12-9, r14c=
Re: [ob] HOTS ngadat?
Jangan panik pak, hanya -11.609 point atau -0.5 % saja kok, mosok tegangnya sampai lupa hari. - Original Message - From: er1ck To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [ob] HOTS ngadat? TAL :-)), hari jum-at jam isirahat mulai dari 11.30 pak , he3x... 2009/8/21 kayakdayak mhuta...@indosat.net.id mulai 11:29 nggak ada transaksi. kenapa ya?
RE: [ob] Re: Dow Update : MACD Optimized
Skrg udah -45 per 1:13 PM ti ati From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sulistyo_winarto Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 11:34 AM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Re: Dow Update : MACD Optimized Pak Tasrul, DOW - 63 jam 11.30. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , Tasrul tas...@... wrote: Hati-hati kegocek sama Dow Future yg saat ini -50. Semoga gak slip, dan Dow rally lagi. Tasrul PT. Overseas Securities Research Analyst Plaza Bapindo Mandiri Tower Lt.16 tas...@... mailto:tas...@... Jl. Jend.Sudirman Kav.54-55 Jakarta - 12190, Indonesia Phone 62.21.5277008 Fax 62.21.5277009 DISCLAIMER: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the named addressee(s) is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. PT. Overseas Securities accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.
[ob] becareful ....
Aug. 21 (Bloomberg) -- China plans to tighten capital requirements for banks, threatening to curb the record lending that’s fueled a 60 percent rally in the nation’s stock market, three people familiar with the matter said. The China Banking Regulatory Commission sent a draft of rule changes to banks on Aug. 19 requiring them to deduct all existing holdings of subordinated and hybrid debt sold by other lenders from supplementary capital, said the people, who have seen the document. Banks have until Aug. 25 to give feedback, said the people, who declined to be identified as the matter is private. As a result, banks may need to rein in lending or sell shares to lift capital adequacy ratios to the 12 percent mandated by the regulator. Chinese stocks briefly entered a so- called bear market this week on concerns the government would stymie new loans that exceeded $1 trillion in the first half. A news department official at the regulator declined to comment by phone and didn’t immediately respond to a faxed inquiry. “This move will cut one of the most important funding sources for banks,” said Sheng Nan, an analyst at UOB Kayhian Investment Co. in Shanghai. Banks will “have to either raise more equity capital or slow down lending and other capital consuming businesses to stay afloat.” China’s banks have sold 236.7 billion yuan ($34.6 billion) of subordinated bonds so far this year, almost triple the amount issued during all of 2008. The banking regulator estimates about half of the subordinated bonds in circulation are cross-held among banks. Record Lending Those debt sales came as new loans rose to a record 7.37 trillion yuan in the first half. About 1.16 trillion yuan of loans were invested in stocks in the first five months of this year, China Business News reported on June 29, citing Wei Jianing, a deputy director at the Development and Research Center under the State Council, China’s cabinet. “I’m worried about a correction in a market that has been driven by cheap money,” Devan Kaloo, who oversees $11.5 billion as head of global emerging markets at Aberdeen Asset Management Ltd., said Aug. 19. China’s benchmark Shanghai Composite Index almost doubled during the first seven months of this year through Aug. 4, after falling 65 percent in 2008. Since reaching this year’s high on Aug. 4, it’s plummeted 15 percent. The index on Aug. 19 briefly fell 20 percent from this year’s high, the threshold for a bear market, before ending the day down 19.8 percent. The gauge rebounded yesterday, rising 4.5 percent. Credit Concerns The weighted average capital adequacy ratio of 205 commercial Chinese banks at the end of 2008 was 12 percent, up 3.7 percentage points from a year earlier, according to the industry’s annual report. The weighting was strongly affected by the nation’s five-largest banks, which account for 52 percent of assets in the industry. The banking regulator has indicated it’s concerned about excessive credit creation. Last month, the commission ordered lenders to raise reserves against non-performing loans, to ensure loans for fixed asset investments go to projects that support the real economy and announced plans to tighten rules on working capital loans. Banks are allowed to count subordinated bonds they sell as supplementary or lower-Tier 2 capital. In the event of bankruptcy, holders of subordinated notes receive payment only after other debt claims are paid in full. The regulator’s rule change requires banks to subtract all existing holdings of subordinate bonds issued by other lenders from their own subordinated bonds being counted as supplementary capital. Hybrid Bonds In addition, the new rules also limit the amount of subordinated or hybrid bonds banks can hold, the people said. A bank’s holding of subordinated and hybrid bonds issued by a single bank can’t exceed 15 percent of its core capital, the people said. Holdings of all subordinate and hybrid bonds issued by banks can’t exceed 20 percent of core capital. The regulator has called on small publicly traded banks to have a minimum capital adequacy ratio of 12 percent by year’s end, up from the current 10 percent. The ratio, a measure of how much in losses a bank can absorb, is calculated by dividing capital by risk-weighted assets. A bank’s risk-weighted assets are comprised partly of loans. After deducting subordinated bonds issued by other banks, lenders must either raise core capital or reduce their loans to meet the capital adequacy ratio requirements. “It’ll be hard for commercial banks to sell subordinate bonds because much of the debt is sold to their counterparts,” said Xu Xiaoqing, a bond analyst at China International Capital Corp. in Beijing. “This rule would tighten lending by commercial banks, especially small and medium sized banks that have relatively less capital.” For Related News and Information: Top financial stories: FTOP GO
Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation
google news' search results on us deflation versus us inflation: http://news.google.com/news/search?um=1ned=ushl=enq=US+deflation result: Did you mean to search for: US inflation http://news.google.com/news/search?um=1ned=ushl=enq=US+inflation result: many who owns google anyway, hehehe. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote: *The media is starting to use the word 'deflation' everywhere. Be careful. I predict these words are the hot topics for 2H09 - 1H10: * - *deflation: this is the root of all evil. Oversupply, low demand, tight credit. * - *unemployment: productions halted, less purchasing power. * - *debt bubble / USD crash: the end of western domination, and the destruction of capitalism.* - ** - *H1N1: deadly decoy.* - *US - China trade war: it is happening.* *But it would be unfair if I just mention the potential bad news. I also have these: * - *Domestic driven demand: toll roads, micro finance, infrastructure, public transportation* - *Deflation is a good things for consumers, I know Indonesian are all shopping freaks! lolz[?]* *I reduce the risk for NK crisis and election issue as they shows better than expected result. Worst case scenario, the US will disintegrate like the soviet union. If this happens, BUY! I dunno when or how much this will affect the financial market. Give me some prediction.. Fundamentally Indonesia is better than the rest, but this is not the case. The world market is driven by sentiments, greed and fear, and its ripple effect will spread throughout the world. New high? it's possible. -1000, that's an opportunity. I will adapt with the market sentiment (NEUTRAL). The average data reported by the officials show recovery progress, but how far will it stretch? Most of the 'good news' are engineered, earnings are boosted because of lay offs, debt restructuring/write off, asset sales, mergers/acquisition, and tax cuts. At least in the US, but could be very different with Indonesia. So I will say: Buy on US weakness. Feel free to discuss, friends. I'm sorry, I cannot recommend specific stocks at this time. Elaine** * On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Peter Alimin milis...@... wrote: China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation CHINA, GDP, GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT, ECONOMY, GROWTH Reuters | 20 Aug 2009 | 09:47 PM ET China's gross domestic product will grow about 8.5 percent in the third quarter from a year earlier, picking up from the second quarter's 7.9 percent pace, a government think-tank said on Friday. The bullish forecast comes against a background of anxiety in world markets that Chinese growth might falter as a boom in fiscal spending and bank lending peters out. The State Information Centre (SIC) said growth in bank credit would normalize in coming months but warned that any abrupt slowdown in lending would leave many state-backed projects unfinished and result in a new crop of non-performing loans. New lending will rebound to about 500 billion yuan ($73 billion) in August after shrinking to 356 billion yuan in July, the official China Securities Journal reported. In a report carried in the same paper, the SIC said China would stick to its proactive fiscal policy and appropriately loose monetary stance in the second half of the year. China's CPI has been falling for many months and it's a fact that mild deflation exists, so there is no basis for China to alter its monetary policy, the think-tank, which comes under China's economic planning agency, said. It forecast that the consumer price index (CPI) would fall 1.3 percent this quarter from a year earlier and the producer price index would decline 7.9 percent due to the high base of comparison in 2008. The SIC said the Chinese economy has bottomed out but is still growing below potential, mainly due to weak exports. Exports would fall 20 percent in the third quarter, compared with a year earlier, with imports dropping 12.7 percent, the think-tank forecast. Capital spending would remain a key driver for the world's third-largest economy, and urban fixed-asset investment was likely to rise 32 percent in the third quarter, it said. Strong investment is exacerbating many deeply rooted problems, including over-capacity, the think-tank said. It listed steel and cement as sectors with serious over-capacity. It is extremely bad for China's future industrial restructuring and upgrading, the SIC said. It said property investment could potentially replace government spending as the next key driver of growth. Copyright 2009 Reuters. Click for restrictions. -- Party with Buddy! Bling out your Messenger with free winks emoticons. Click herehttp://discover.windowslive.com/en-id/messenger/messengeris10/#/downloads
Re: [ob] I go bearish
Oh iya, mumpung ingat, saya mohon maaf lahir batin pada rekan2 semua, dan selamat menyambut ramadhan bagi yang menunaikan ibadah2 ramadhan :) Regards, 2009/8/21 karunq kar...@gmail.com: Konjungsi (Ijtimak) Awal Bulan terjadi pada : Kamis, 20 Agustus 2009 @ 17:04 WIB - 18:04 WITA - 19:04 WIT atau 10:04 UT Sumber: google ramadhan rukyatul hilal Jadi krn pada saat matahari terbenam di wilayah WIB tidak memungkinkan penampakan hilal, maka bagi wilayah WIB, hari jumat belum mulai puasa. Untuk wilayah yang terletak lebih di barat (middle east, europe, etc), bisa saja hilal terlihat, shg hari jumat mereka sudah mulai puasa. Regards, 2009/8/21 BEJ Watch bej.wa...@gmail.com: Lah puasanya bukan besok Sabtu 22 Agustus 2009 mbah ? Ada yang bisa confirm ? 2009/8/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tommy_ya...@... wrote: Kok sepi ya ? Pada kemana nih ? Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® - Hari ini hari pertama puasa jadi kekuatan pasar mungkin cuman 50%, bayangin aja musti bangun jam 3 pagi. - Fastnet di JKT Utara katanya mati. -Original Message- From: wintama winarto.r...@... Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:33:51 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish APOL juga punya, tapi not for sale ... hehe... From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tasrul Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:30 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli _ To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com From: tommy_ya...@... Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 + Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish Cangcutnya lagi di jemur jadi , tunggu kering dulu baru jadi V Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerryR _ From: wintama Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09:33 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] I go bearish I GO BEARISH..!!! _ Party with Buddy! Bling out your Messenger with free winks emoticons. Click here http://discover.windowslive.com/en-id/messenger/messengeris10/#/downloads
Re: [ob] I go bearish
Konjungsi (Ijtimak) Awal Bulan terjadi pada : Kamis, 20 Agustus 2009 @ 17:04 WIB - 18:04 WITA - 19:04 WIT atau 10:04 UT Sumber: google ramadhan rukyatul hilal Jadi krn pada saat matahari terbenam di wilayah WIB tidak memungkinkan penampakan hilal, maka bagi wilayah WIB, hari jumat belum mulai puasa. Untuk wilayah yang terletak lebih di barat (middle east, europe, etc), bisa saja hilal terlihat, shg hari jumat mereka sudah mulai puasa. Regards, 2009/8/21 BEJ Watch bej.wa...@gmail.com: Lah puasanya bukan besok Sabtu 22 Agustus 2009 mbah ? Ada yang bisa confirm ? 2009/8/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tommy_ya...@... wrote: Kok sepi ya ? Pada kemana nih ? Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® - Hari ini hari pertama puasa jadi kekuatan pasar mungkin cuman 50%, bayangin aja musti bangun jam 3 pagi. - Fastnet di JKT Utara katanya mati. -Original Message- From: wintama winarto.r...@... Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:33:51 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish APOL juga punya, tapi not for sale ... hehe... From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tasrul Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:30 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli _ To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com From: tommy_ya...@... Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 + Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish Cangcutnya lagi di jemur jadi , tunggu kering dulu baru jadi V Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerryR _ From: wintama Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09:33 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] I go bearish I GO BEARISH..!!! _ Party with Buddy! Bling out your Messenger with free winks emoticons. Click here http://discover.windowslive.com/en-id/messenger/messengeris10/#/downloads
RE: [ob] CINA jebol tuh
Jebol..?? Masak sih. shi 1.png shi.png From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of M Herman Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 13:05 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] CINA jebol tuh tadi ada yg kirim artikel dari bloomberg (lewat ym ..sayang kehapus) katanya pemerintah cina akan membatasi pinjaman bank karena disinyalir banyak yg dipake main di pasar saham . Likuiditas akan mengkerut market china akan terhambat kenaikannya or mungkin terus turun. ntar saya coba liat di bloomberg.com deh --- On Thu, 8/20/09, kidod25 kido...@yahoo.com wrote: From: kidod25 kido...@yahoo.com Subject: [ob] CINA jebol tuh To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 10:53 PM http://finance. yahoo.com/ q/ta?s=01. SS http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=01.SSt=3ml=onz=mq=lp=m20,m50,m100, m200a=m26-12-9,fs,r14c= t=3ml= onz=mq= lp=m20,m50, m100,m200 a=m26-12- 9,fs,r14 c= MA 100 udah jebol di cina IHSG sptnya akan nyusul 1-2 bulan ke depan., http://finance. http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s= yahoo.com/ q/ta?s=^JKSEt=6ml= onz=mq= lp=m100, m50,m20a= m26-12-9, r14c= image001.pngimage002.png
Re: [ob] I go bearish
Hehe..kirain pak Tasrul investor kae pak rei.. Klo turun, hajar teruss.. Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: tasru...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:08:28 To: Obrolan Bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish Jualnya diem diem aja Pak he he Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: s|nnerman tv.k...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:02:49 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish Hehe..orang terkaya di OB jelas hanya 1. Yakni, bozz Tasrul. Dari jaman doeloe hingga kini slogannya hanya satu, ente jual ane beli. Bozz arto aja kadang masiih jualan.. Tapi klo Bozz Tasrul, beli teruss. Hehehe.. Bozz Tasrul kapan jualan? Duitnya ga abis abis niih..?! On 8/21/09, Tasrul tas...@overseas.co.id wrote: Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com From: tommy_ya...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 + Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish Cangcutnya lagi di jemur jadi , tunggu kering dulu baru jadi V Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry(r) From: wintama Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09:33 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] I go bearish I GO BEARISH..!!! Party with Buddy! Bling out your Messenger with free winks emoticons. Click here http://discover.windowslive.com/en-id/messenger/messengeris10/#/downloa ds -- Sent from my mobile device
Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation
I do agree. Domestic driven economy will prevail at the end. On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote: *The media is starting to use the word 'deflation' everywhere. Be careful. I predict these words are the hot topics for 2H09 - 1H10: * - *deflation: this is the root of all evil. Oversupply, low demand, tight credit. * - *unemployment: productions halted, less purchasing power. * - *debt bubble / USD crash: the end of western domination, and the destruction of capitalism.* - ** - *H1N1: deadly decoy.* - *US - China trade war: it is happening.* *But it would be unfair if I just mention the potential bad news. I also have these: * - *Domestic driven demand: toll roads, micro finance, infrastructure, public transportation* - *Deflation is a good things for consumers, I know Indonesian are all shopping freaks! lolz[?]* *I reduce the risk for NK crisis and election issue as they shows better than expected result. Worst case scenario, the US will disintegrate like the soviet union. If this happens, BUY! I dunno when or how much this will affect the financial market. Give me some prediction.. Fundamentally Indonesia is better than the rest, but this is not the case. The world market is driven by sentiments, greed and fear, and its ripple effect will spread throughout the world. New high? it's possible. -1000, that's an opportunity. I will adapt with the market sentiment (NEUTRAL). The average data reported by the officials show recovery progress, but how far will it stretch? Most of the 'good news' are engineered, earnings are boosted because of lay offs, debt restructuring/write off, asset sales, mergers/acquisition, and tax cuts. At least in the US, but could be very different with Indonesia. So I will say: Buy on US weakness. Feel free to discuss, friends. I'm sorry, I cannot recommend specific stocks at this time. Elaine** * On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Peter Alimin milis...@live.com wrote: China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation CHINA, GDP, GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT, ECONOMY, GROWTH Reuters | 20 Aug 2009 | 09:47 PM ET China's gross domestic product will grow about 8.5 percent in the third quarter from a year earlier, picking up from the second quarter's 7.9 percent pace, a government think-tank said on Friday. The bullish forecast comes against a background of anxiety in world markets that Chinese growth might falter as a boom in fiscal spending and bank lending peters out. The State Information Centre (SIC) said growth in bank credit would normalize in coming months but warned that any abrupt slowdown in lending would leave many state-backed projects unfinished and result in a new crop of non-performing loans. New lending will rebound to about 500 billion yuan ($73 billion) in August after shrinking to 356 billion yuan in July, the official China Securities Journal reported. In a report carried in the same paper, the SIC said China would stick to its proactive fiscal policy and appropriately loose monetary stance in the second half of the year. China's CPI has been falling for many months and it's a fact that mild deflation exists, so there is no basis for China to alter its monetary policy, the think-tank, which comes under China's economic planning agency, said. It forecast that the consumer price index (CPI) would fall 1.3 percent this quarter from a year earlier and the producer price index would decline 7.9 percent due to the high base of comparison in 2008. The SIC said the Chinese economy has bottomed out but is still growing below potential, mainly due to weak exports. Exports would fall 20 percent in the third quarter, compared with a year earlier, with imports dropping 12.7 percent, the think-tank forecast. Capital spending would remain a key driver for the world's third-largest economy, and urban fixed-asset investment was likely to rise 32 percent in the third quarter, it said. Strong investment is exacerbating many deeply rooted problems, including over-capacity, the think-tank said. It listed steel and cement as sectors with serious over-capacity. It is extremely bad for China's future industrial restructuring and upgrading, the SIC said. It said property investment could potentially replace government spending as the next key driver of growth. Copyright 2009 Reuters. Click for restrictions. -- Party with Buddy! Bling out your Messenger with free winks emoticons. Click herehttp://discover.windowslive.com/en-id/messenger/messengeris10/#/downloads 360.gif
Re: [ob] becareful ....
In other words -- Chinese gov hv a great optimism on the recovery progress!!! :).. -Original Message- From: M Herman hermanlat...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:10:00 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] becareful Aug. 21 (Bloomberg) -- China plans to tighten capital requirements for banks, threatening to curb the record lending that’s fueled a 60 percent rally in the nation’s stock market, three people familiar with the matter said. The China Banking Regulatory Commission sent a draft of rule changes to banks on Aug. 19 requiring them to deduct all existing holdings of subordinated and hybrid debt sold by other lenders from supplementary capital, said the people, who have seen the document. Banks have until Aug. 25 to give feedback, said the people, who declined to be identified as the matter is private. As a result, banks may need to rein in lending or sell shares to lift capital adequacy ratios to the 12 percent mandated by the regulator. Chinese stocks briefly entered a so- called bear market this week on concerns the government would stymie new loans that exceeded $1 trillion in the first half. A news department official at the regulator declined to comment by phone and didn’t immediately respond to a faxed inquiry. “This move will cut one of the most important funding sources for banks,” said Sheng Nan, an analyst at UOB Kayhian Investment Co. in Shanghai. Banks will “have to either raise more equity capital or slow down lending and other capital consuming businesses to stay afloat.” China’s banks have sold 236.7 billion yuan ($34.6 billion) of subordinated bonds so far this year, almost triple the amount issued during all of 2008. The banking regulator estimates about half of the subordinated bonds in circulation are cross-held among banks. Record Lending Those debt sales came as new loans rose to a record 7.37 trillion yuan in the first half. About 1.16 trillion yuan of loans were invested in stocks in the first five months of this year, China Business News reported on June 29, citing Wei Jianing, a deputy director at the Development and Research Center under the State Council, China’s cabinet. “I’m worried about a correction in a market that has been driven by cheap money,” Devan Kaloo, who oversees $11.5 billion as head of global emerging markets at Aberdeen Asset Management Ltd., said Aug. 19. China’s benchmark Shanghai Composite Index almost doubled during the first seven months of this year through Aug. 4, after falling 65 percent in 2008. Since reaching this year’s high on Aug. 4, it’s plummeted 15 percent. The index on Aug. 19 briefly fell 20 percent from this year’s high, the threshold for a bear market, before ending the day down 19.8 percent. The gauge rebounded yesterday, rising 4.5 percent. Credit Concerns The weighted average capital adequacy ratio of 205 commercial Chinese banks at the end of 2008 was 12 percent, up 3.7 percentage points from a year earlier, according to the industry’s annual report. The weighting was strongly affected by the nation’s five-largest banks, which account for 52 percent of assets in the industry. The banking regulator has indicated it’s concerned about excessive credit creation. Last month, the commission ordered lenders to raise reserves against non-performing loans, to ensure loans for fixed asset investments go to projects that support the real economy and announced plans to tighten rules on working capital loans. Banks are allowed to count subordinated bonds they sell as supplementary or lower-Tier 2 capital. In the event of bankruptcy, holders of subordinated notes receive payment only after other debt claims are paid in full. The regulator’s rule change requires banks to subtract all existing holdings of subordinate bonds issued by other lenders from their own subordinated bonds being counted as supplementary capital. Hybrid Bonds In addition, the new rules also limit the amount of subordinated or hybrid bonds banks can hold, the people said. A bank’s holding of subordinated and hybrid bonds issued by a single bank can’t exceed 15 percent of its core capital, the people said. Holdings of all subordinate and hybrid bonds issued by banks can’t exceed 20 percent of core capital. The regulator has called on small publicly traded banks to have a minimum capital adequacy ratio of 12 percent by year’s end, up from the current 10 percent. The ratio, a measure of how much in losses a bank can absorb, is calculated by dividing capital by risk-weighted assets. A bank’s risk-weighted assets are comprised partly of loans. After deducting subordinated bonds issued by other banks, lenders must either raise core capital or reduce their loans to meet the capital adequacy ratio requirements. “It’ll be hard for commercial banks to sell subordinate bonds because much of the debt is sold to their counterparts,” said Xu Xiaoqing, a bond
[ob] Ramadhan : Mohon Maaf Lahir Bathin
Menyambut Ramadhan ane minta maaf lahir bathin kalau ada salah salah kata , salah rekomendasi yang harusnya jual jadi beli, yang harusnya beli jadi jual , yang harusnya tampung jadi guyur , yang guyur jadi tampung , yang gak bisa munculin chartnya dan cuma ngomong doang dan gak bisa kasih chart atas permintaan OBers, dll he he he. Maapin ye... dan semoga tradingnya cuan terus (Tasrul Keluarga) Tasrul PT. Overseas Securities Research Analyst Plaza Bapindo Mandiri Tower Lt.16 tas...@overseas.co.id mailto:tas...@overseas.co.id Jl. Jend.Sudirman Kav.54-55 Jakarta - 12190, Indonesia Phone 62.21.5277008 Fax62.21.5277009 DISCLAIMER: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the named addressee(s) is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. PT. Overseas Securities accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.
Re: [ob] I go bearish
Puasa kan hari ini buat Muhammadiyah (PAN/Amien Rais itu Muhammadiyah kan?), tapi buat yg lain2 itu besok. Sdh beberapa tahun gitu terus koq, hari raya lebaran juga mereka maju 1 hari. Selamat buat OBers yg menjalankan puasa! 2009/8/21 BEJ Watch bej.wa...@gmail.com Lah puasanya bukan besok Sabtu 22 Agustus 2009 mbah ? Ada yang bisa confirm ? 2009/8/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, tommy_ya...@... wrote: Kok sepi ya ? Pada kemana nih ? Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® - Hari ini hari pertama puasa jadi kekuatan pasar mungkin cuman 50%, bayangin aja musti bangun jam 3 pagi. - Fastnet di JKT Utara katanya mati. -Original Message- From: wintama winarto.r...@... Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:33:51 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish APOL juga punya, tapi not for sale ... hehe... From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com[mailto: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tasrul Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:30 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli _ To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com From: tommy_ya...@... Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 + Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish Cangcutnya lagi di jemur jadi , tunggu kering dulu baru jadi V Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerryR _ From: wintama Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09:33 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] I go bearish I GO BEARISH..!!! _ Party with Buddy! Bling out your Messenger with free winks emoticons. Click here http://discover.windowslive.com/en-id/messenger/messengeris10/#/downloads
Re: [ob] CINA jebol tuh
1. Liquidity Squeeze and excess supply in China Stock Market 2. The End of Cash for Clunkers Program in US on monday next week 3. Engineered global economic growth 4. High unemployment, Low Demand, Deflation 5. Global Stock Market Rally 1 month without any meaningful healthy correction 6. Liquidity Squeeze for Eid ul-Fitr Ramadhan I just wonder...will the IDX still immune ? A healthy big correction is needed to discount those events above. 2009/8/21 M Herman hermanlat...@yahoo.com tadi ada yg kirim artikel dari bloomberg (lewat ym ..sayang kehapus) katanya pemerintah cina akan membatasi pinjaman bank karena disinyalir banyak yg dipake main di pasar saham . Likuiditas akan mengkerut market china akan terhambat kenaikannya or mungkin terus turun. ntar saya coba liat di bloomberg.com deh --- On *Thu, 8/20/09, kidod25 kido...@yahoo.com* wrote: From: kidod25 kido...@yahoo.com Subject: [ob] CINA jebol tuh To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 10:53 PM http://finance. yahoo.com/ q/ta?s=01. SSt=3ml= onz=mq= lp=m20,m50, m100,m200 a=m26-12- 9,fs,r14 c=http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=01.SSt=3ml=onz=mq=lp=m20,m50,m100,m200a=m26-12-9,fs,r14c= MA 100 udah jebol di cina IHSG sptnya akan nyusul 1-2 bulan ke depan., http://finance. yahoo.com/ q/ta?s= http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=^JKSEt=6ml= onz=mq= lp=m100, m50,m20a= m26-12-9, r14c=
[ob] 33 Sekuritas Bakal Jadi Korban Amandemen UU Pasar Modal
any comment for this??? Jakarta - Rencana Badan Pengawas Pasar Modal Lembaga Keuangan (Bapepam-LK) melakukan amandemen UU Pasar Modal sepertinya akan membuat 33 sekuritas menjadi korban. Dalam draf kasar amandemen UU Pasar Modal, yang diperoleh detikFinance, Jumat (21/8/2009) sekuritas tidak lagi boleh mengantongi izin sebagai manajer investasi (MI) bersamaan dengan izin perantara perdagangan efek (PPE) dan atau izin penjaminan emisi efek (PEE). Dengan kata lain, amandemen UU Pasar Modal akan mewajibkan sekuritas-sekuritas yang saat ini memiliki izin MI melakukan pemisahan usaha, entah dengan membuat anak usaha baru yang khusus bergerak sebagai MI atau bisa juga membuat badan usaha baru yang kemudian dipayungi dengan suatu perusahaan induk. Saat ini, sekuritas yang tercatat di Bursa Efek Indonesia (BEI) ada sebanyak 119 sekuritas atau anggota bursa (AB/broker). Semua sekuritas tersebut memegang izin PPE. Dari jumlah tersebut, sebanyak 44 sekuritas memegang dua izin yakni PPE dan PEE. Kemudian sebanyak 9 sekuritas memegang dua izin yaitu PPE dan MI. Terakhir, sebanyak 26 sekuritas mengantongi izin PPE, PEE dan MI. Jika dihitung, maka total jumlah sekuritas di BEI yang mengantongi izin MI ada sebanyak 35 sekuritas. Namun dua sekuritas dalam status suspensi yaitu PT Sarijaya Permana Sekuritas (kode broker:SP) dan PT Signature Capital Indonesia (kode broker:FA). Dengan demikian, jumlah sekuritas di BEI yang dalam status aktif dan memiliki izin MI ada sebanyak 33 sekuritas. Sekuritas-sekuritas inilah yang harus melakukan konsolidasi ulang jika amandemen UU Pasar Modal akhirnya memperoleh persetujuan DPR RI. Berikut daftar 33 sekuritas aktif yang mengantongi izin MI: PT Bali Securities (PO), PPE dan MI.PT Dhanawibawa Artha Cemerlang (TX), PPE dan MI.PT Ekokapital Sekuritas (ES), PPE dan MI.PT Kresna Graha Securindo (KS), PPE dan MI.PT Paramitra Alfa Sekuritas (PS), PPE dan MI.PT Finan Corpindo Nusa (AY), PPE dan MI.PT Transpacific Securindo (TP), PPE dan MI.PT Valbury Asia Securities (CP), PPE dan MI.PT Am Capital Indonesia (FS), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Asia Kapitalindo Securities (KC), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Asjaya Indosurya Securities (IP), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT BNI Securities (NI), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Brent Securities (HK), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT CIMB Securities Indonesia (YU), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Danatama Makmur (II), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Dinamika Usaha Jaya (SQ), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Equity Securities Indonesia (BS), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Evergreen Capital (EL), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Indo Premier Securities (PD), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Makinta Securities (AH), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Masindo Artha Securities (DM), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Mega Capital Indonesia (CD), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Nikko Securities Indonesia (RB), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT NISP Sekuritas (RO), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Optima Kharya Capital Securities (CM), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Panca Global Securities (PG), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Panin Sekuritas (GR), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Philip Securities Indonesia (KK), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Pratama Capital Indonesia (PK), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Semesta Indovest (MG), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Sinarmas Sekuritas (DH), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Tiga Pilar Sekuritas (DG), PPE, PEE dan MI.PT Trimegah Securities (LG), PPE, PEE dan MI. source: http://www.detikfinance.com/read/2009/08/21/080241/1186867/6/33-sekuritas-bakal-jadi-korban-amandemen-uu-pasar-modal
Re: [ob] I go bearish
Thanks atas ucapannya rekan2. Belajar control diri dan nafsu yg liar nihkaya' bbrp hari ini, CL melulu euy...gainnya sebagian diambil balik Bozz. Mungkin harus step out, sambil khusuk buat Puasa Bravo OB -LT 2009/8/21 Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com Puasa kan hari ini buat Muhammadiyah (PAN/Amien Rais itu Muhammadiyah kan?), tapi buat yg lain2 itu besok. Sdh beberapa tahun gitu terus koq, hari raya lebaran juga mereka maju 1 hari. Selamat buat OBers yg menjalankan puasa! 2009/8/21 BEJ Watch bej.wa...@gmail.com Lah puasanya bukan besok Sabtu 22 Agustus 2009 mbah ? Ada yang bisa confirm ? 2009/8/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, tommy_ya...@... wrote: Kok sepi ya ? Pada kemana nih ? Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® - Hari ini hari pertama puasa jadi kekuatan pasar mungkin cuman 50%, bayangin aja musti bangun jam 3 pagi. - Fastnet di JKT Utara katanya mati. -Original Message- From: wintama winarto.r...@... Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:33:51 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish APOL juga punya, tapi not for sale ... hehe... From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com[mailto: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tasrul Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:30 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli _ To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com From: tommy_ya...@... Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 + Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish Cangcutnya lagi di jemur jadi , tunggu kering dulu baru jadi V Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerryR _ From: wintama Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09:33 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] I go bearish I GO BEARISH..!!! _ Party with Buddy! Bling out your Messenger with free winks emoticons. Click here http://discover.windowslive.com/en-id/messenger/messengeris10/#/downloads
[ob] Re: Ramadhan : Mohon Maaf Lahir Bathin
Selamat Menunaikan Ibadah Puasa.. utk rekan2 di OB yg menunaikan Ibadah Puasa... Mohon maaf lahir dan Bathin.. MARHABAN YA RAMADHON Sabda Nabi s.a.w.: Hendaklah kamu memuliakan bulan Rejab, nescaya Allah muliakan kamu dengan seribu kemuliaan di hari kiamat. Sabda Nabi s.a.w.: Bulan Rejab Bulan Allah, Bulan Sya'aban bulanku bulan Ramadhan bulan umatku. Kemuliaan Rejab dengan malam ISRAK MIKRAJnya, Sya'aban dengan malam NISFUnya Ramadhan dengan LAILATUL-QADARnya. Malam awal Rejab mustajab do'anya. NB: MAAF BILA ADA KATA 2 ATAU KUTIPAN YG SALAH. SALAM KOBAYASHI. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Tasrul tas...@... wrote: Menyambut Ramadhan ane minta maaf lahir bathin kalau ada salah salah kata , salah rekomendasi yang harusnya jual jadi beli, yang harusnya beli jadi jual , yang harusnya tampung jadi guyur , yang guyur jadi tampung , yang gak bisa munculin chartnya dan cuma ngomong doang dan gak bisa kasih chart atas permintaan OBers, dll he he he. Maapin ye... dan semoga tradingnya cuan terus (Tasrul Keluarga) Tasrul PT. Overseas Securities Research Analyst Plaza Bapindo Mandiri Tower Lt.16 tas...@... mailto:tas...@... Jl. Jend.Sudirman Kav.54-55 Jakarta - 12190, Indonesia Phone 62.21.5277008 Fax 62.21.5277009 DISCLAIMER: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the named addressee(s) is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. PT. Overseas Securities accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.
Re: [ob] I go bearish
correction : Muhammadiyah sejak awal menetapkan awal ramadhan tanggal 22agustus From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 1:29:49 PM Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish Puasa kan hari ini buat Muhammadiyah (PAN/Amien Rais itu Muhammadiyah kan?), tapi buat yg lain2 itu besok. Sdh beberapa tahun gitu terus koq, hari raya lebaran juga mereka maju 1 hari. Selamat buat OBers yg menjalankan puasa! 2009/8/21 BEJ Watch bej.wa...@gmail. com Lah puasanya bukan besok Sabtu 22 Agustus 2009 mbah ? Ada yang bisa confirm ? 2009/8/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, tommy_yap99@ ... wrote: Kok sepi ya ? Pada kemana nih ? Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® - Hari ini hari pertama puasa jadi kekuatan pasar mungkin cuman 50%, bayangin aja musti bangun jam 3 pagi. - Fastnet di JKT Utara katanya mati. -Original Message- From: wintama winarto.rudy@ ... Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:33:51 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish APOL juga punya, tapi not for sale ... hehe... From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Tasrul Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:30 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli _ To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com From: tommy_yap99@ ... Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 + Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish Cangcutnya lagi di jemur jadi , tunggu kering dulu baru jadi V Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerryR _ From: wintama Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09:33 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] I go bearish I GO BEARISH..!!! _ Party with Buddy! Bling out your Messenger with free winks emoticons. Click here http://discover. windowslive. com/en-id/ messenger/ messengeris10/ #/downloads
[ob] Re: HOTS ngadat?
RTI saya juga ngadat tuh pakhahaha.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, kayakdayak mhuta...@... wrote: mulai 11:29 nggak ada transaksi. kenapa ya?
[ob] Re: China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation
Dear Elaine, agree with you, as we know Economy is a BIZARRE TEACHER. Ordinary teacher always punish the naughty, lazy, stupid students and give reward to the bright one. But Economy do with different way, Economy will punish the bright one and give reward to the naughty, lazy, stupid one. Asia (specially China) is the bright one right now and US is the most naughty, lazy one. US get the reward (money, help, sympathy everywhere) and China get the punish (Rule to slowdown). Really BIZARRE. Regards JV http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/186784;_ylc=X3oDMTJzZm 1xdmVwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE2NTIzNTUEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDAxNzc5BG1zZ0lkAz E4Njc4NARzZWMDZG1zZwRzbGsDdm1zZwRzdGltZQMxMjUwODM1Mzkx Re: China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation Posted by: Elaine Sui mailto:elainesu...@gmail.com?subject=%20re%3a%20china%20third-quarter%20gdp %20Seen%20up%208%2E5%25%2C%20No%20Inflation elainesu...@gmail.com Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:58 pm (PDT) *We all know that China Mainland (along with Japan) is funding the US recovery by buying their debts and shares, to keep them afloat because US is the biggest consumers of China and Japan products. But at the same time, the China govt is planning to cool down their own economy from overheating, and to avoid oversupply, so it's pretty dilemmatic. I'd say it's limited, unless China is going to apply protectionism to US imports. They (China) are piling up everything from the world, cash, energy, natural resources, man powers, they are buying everything. And they will either use it for their own good (domestic spending), or sell back to everyone at pretty much higher price (unlikely though, I mean who's gonna buy them?). After the fall of communism (soviet union) in 1991, capitalism and globalization has inflated the economy, and burst 3 times in 1997 (Asia financial crisis), 2001 (dot com bubble) and 2008 (sub prime). China is aware of this facts, and their govt really have to stop the bubble at some point, or it will take the global economy down. Rather than taking aggressive action such as protectionism, they must take more subtle approach, such as limiting money supply. I can't say much as it still in progress, but I believe they will find a way out of this. Elaine** * On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Peter Alimin mailto:milis222%40live.com milis...@live.com wrote: Nice comment.. One more question, how about the effect(to indonesia asia) 'china tight policy' ?(rumour/news[?]) Thanks. Sent from my BlackBerryR powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
Re: [ob] I go bearish
Yang paling kaya dii OB tuh pak Rei sama engkong SB. Turun beli turun lagi beli lagi lebih banyak, nggak dijual jual. Mau bull mau bear, mau crash kek, anteng aja. Ruaaa biasa. Ga ada abisnya tuh duit... bingung dah saya... he he 2009/8/21 tasru...@yahoo.com Jualnya diem diem aja Pak he he Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From*: s|nnerman *Date*: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:02:49 +0800 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] I go bearish Hehe..orang terkaya di OB jelas hanya 1. Yakni, bozz Tasrul. Dari jaman doeloe hingga kini slogannya hanya satu, ente jual ane beli. Bozz arto aja kadang masiih jualan.. Tapi klo Bozz Tasrul, beli teruss. Hehehe.. Bozz Tasrul kapan jualan? Duitnya ga abis abis niih..?! On 8/21/09, Tasrul tas...@overseas.co.id Tasrul%40overseas.co.id wrote: Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com From: tommy_ya...@yahoo.com tommy_yap99%40yahoo.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 + Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish Cangcutnya lagi di jemur jadi , tunggu kering dulu baru jadi V Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry(r) From: wintama Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09:33 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] I go bearish I GO BEARISH..!!! Party with Buddy! Bling out your Messenger with free winks emoticons. Click here http://discover.windowslive.com/en-id/messenger/messengeris10/#/downloa ds -- Sent from my mobile device
Re: [ob] I go bearish
Koreksi : Muhammadiyah sudah sejak beberapa bulan yang lalu sudah menetapkan tanggal 1 Ramadhan (permulaan puasa) jatuh tanggal 22 Agustus 2009 dan tanggal 1 Syawal jatuh tanggal 20 September 2009. --- On Thu, 8/20/09, Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com wrote: From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 11:29 PM Puasa kan hari ini buat Muhammadiyah (PAN/Amien Rais itu Muhammadiyah kan?), tapi buat yg lain2 itu besok. Sdh beberapa tahun gitu terus koq, hari raya lebaran juga mereka maju 1 hari. Selamat buat OBers yg menjalankan puasa! 2009/8/21 BEJ Watch bej.wa...@gmail.com Lah puasanya bukan besok Sabtu 22 Agustus 2009 mbah ? Ada yang bisa confirm ? 2009/8/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tommy_ya...@... wrote: Kok sepi ya ? Pada kemana nih ? Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® - Hari ini hari pertama puasa jadi kekuatan pasar mungkin cuman 50%, bayangin aja musti bangun jam 3 pagi. - Fastnet di JKT Utara katanya mati. -Original Message- From: wintama winarto.r...@... Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:33:51 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish APOL juga punya, tapi not for sale ... hehe... From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tasrul Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 10:30 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [ob] I go bearish Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli _ To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com From: tommy_ya...@... Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 + Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish Cangcutnya lagi di jemur jadi , tunggu kering dulu baru jadi V Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerryR _ From: wintama Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09:33 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] I go bearish I GO BEARISH..!!! _ Party with Buddy! Bling out your Messenger with free winks emoticons. Click here http://discover.windowslive.com/en-id/messenger/messengeris10/#/downloads
Re: [ob] I go bearish
Muhammadiyah Puasa Mulai 22 Agustus JAKARTA- Pimpinan Pusat (PP) Muhammadiyah mengumumkan 1 Ramadan 1430 H jatuh pada Sabtu 22 Agustus. Berdasar hisab Majelis Tarjih dan Tajdid PP Muhammadiyah ... www.hariansumutpos.com/.../muhammadiyah-puasa-mulai-22-agustus.html - - Original Message - From: Rei To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish Puasa kan hari ini buat Muhammadiyah (PAN/Amien Rais itu Muhammadiyah kan?), tapi buat yg lain2 itu besok. Sdh beberapa tahun gitu terus koq, hari raya lebaran juga mereka maju 1 hari. Selamat buat OBers yg menjalankan puasa! 2009/8/21 BEJ Watch bej.wa...@gmail.com Lah puasanya bukan besok Sabtu 22 Agustus 2009 mbah ? Ada yang bisa confirm ? 2009/8/21 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tommy_ya...@... wrote: Kok sepi ya ? Pada kemana nih ? Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® - Hari ini hari pertama puasa jadi kekuatan pasar mungkin cuman 50%, bayangin aja musti bangun jam 3 pagi. - Fastnet di JKT Utara katanya mati. .
Re: [ob] Re: Ramadhan : Mohon Maaf Lahir Bathin
Selamat Menunaikan Ibadah Puasa..utk rekan2 di OB yg menunaikan Ibadah Puasa...Mohon maaf lahir dan Bathin..MARHABAN YA RAMADHON. Batu-mulia Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: ueno_kobayashi ueno_kobaya...@yahoo.co.id Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:41:36 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Re: Ramadhan : Mohon Maaf Lahir Bathin Selamat Menunaikan Ibadah Puasa.. utk rekan2 di OB yg menunaikan Ibadah Puasa... Mohon maaf lahir dan Bathin.. MARHABAN YA RAMADHON Sabda Nabi s.a.w.: Hendaklah kamu memuliakan bulan Rejab, nescaya Allah muliakan kamu dengan seribu kemuliaan di hari kiamat. Sabda Nabi s.a.w.: Bulan Rejab Bulan Allah, Bulan Sya'aban bulanku bulan Ramadhan bulan umatku. Kemuliaan Rejab dengan malam ISRAK MIKRAJnya, Sya'aban dengan malam NISFUnya Ramadhan dengan LAILATUL-QADARnya. Malam awal Rejab mustajab do'anya. NB: MAAF BILA ADA KATA 2 ATAU KUTIPAN YG SALAH. SALAM KOBAYASHI. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Tasrul tas...@... wrote: Menyambut Ramadhan ane minta maaf lahir bathin kalau ada salah salah kata , salah rekomendasi yang harusnya jual jadi beli, yang harusnya beli jadi jual , yang harusnya tampung jadi guyur , yang guyur jadi tampung , yang gak bisa munculin chartnya dan cuma ngomong doang dan gak bisa kasih chart atas permintaan OBers, dll he he he. Maapin ye... dan semoga tradingnya cuan terus (Tasrul Keluarga) Tasrul PT. Overseas Securities Research Analyst Plaza Bapindo Mandiri Tower Lt.16 tas...@... mailto:tas...@... Jl. Jend.Sudirman Kav.54-55 Jakarta - 12190, Indonesia Phone 62.21.5277008 Fax 62.21.5277009 DISCLAIMER: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the named addressee(s) is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. PT. Overseas Securities accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.
Re: [ob] Ramadhan : Mohon Maaf Lahir Bathin
Sama2 pak Tasrul, kan cuannya sama2 juga. Salam, Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Tasrul tas...@overseas.co.id Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:24:43 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Ramadhan : Mohon Maaf Lahir Bathin Menyambut Ramadhan ane minta maaf lahir bathin kalau ada salah salah kata , salah rekomendasi yang harusnya jual jadi beli, yang harusnya beli jadi jual , yang harusnya tampung jadi guyur , yang guyur jadi tampung , yang gak bisa munculin chartnya dan cuma ngomong doang dan gak bisa kasih chart atas permintaan OBers, dll he he he. Maapin ye... dan semoga tradingnya cuan terus (Tasrul Keluarga) Tasrul PT. Overseas Securities Research Analyst Plaza Bapindo Mandiri Tower Lt.16 tas...@overseas.co.id mailto:tas...@overseas.co.id Jl. Jend.Sudirman Kav.54-55 Jakarta - 12190, Indonesia Phone 62.21.5277008 Fax62.21.5277009 DISCLAIMER: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the named addressee(s) is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. PT. Overseas Securities accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.
RE: [ob] I go bearish
Tapi skrg Pak Rei udah belajar trading lho, paling gak kalau mau target harga sms saya hehehehe...semoga cuan Pak Rei From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Tan Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 1:57 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish Yang paling kaya dii OB tuh pak Rei sama engkong SB. Turun beli turun lagi beli lagi lebih banyak, nggak dijual jual. Mau bull mau bear, mau crash kek, anteng aja. Ruaaa biasa. Ga ada abisnya tuh duit... bingung dah saya... he he 2009/8/21 tasru...@yahoo.com mailto:tasru...@yahoo.com Jualnya diem diem aja Pak he he Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry(r) From: s|nnerman Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:02:49 +0800 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish Hehe..orang terkaya di OB jelas hanya 1. Yakni, bozz Tasrul. Dari jaman doeloe hingga kini slogannya hanya satu, ente jual ane beli. Bozz arto aja kadang masiih jualan.. Tapi klo Bozz Tasrul, beli teruss. Hehehe.. Bozz Tasrul kapan jualan? Duitnya ga abis abis niih..?! On 8/21/09, Tasrul tas...@overseas.co.id mailto:Tasrul%40overseas.co.id wrote: Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com From: tommy_ya...@yahoo.com mailto:tommy_yap99%40yahoo.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 + Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish Cangcutnya lagi di jemur jadi , tunggu kering dulu baru jadi V Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry(r) From: wintama Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09:33 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] I go bearish I GO BEARISH..!!! Party with Buddy! Bling out your Messenger with free winks emoticons. Click here http://discover.windowslive.com/en-id/messenger/messengeris10/#/downloa http://discover.windowslive.com/en-id/messenger/messengeris10/#/downloa ds -- Sent from my mobile device
RE: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation
Deflation's Effect on Real Estate, Bonds, and the Dollar http://www.elliottwave.com/images/dotted_line.gif http://www.elliottwave.com/images/transparent_spacer.gif By Editorial Staff Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:45:00 ET http://www.elliottwave.com/images/transparent_spacer.gif http://www.elliottwave.com/images/dotted_line.gif They say that generals tend to fight the last battle. And the generals at the Federal Reserve are no different. They constantly say they are battling inflation. But the head of the Fed's Joint Chiefs of Staff, Ben Bernanke, has lately been worrying about deflation and doing his darnedest to head it off. He has even let worries about a credit crunch outflank concerns about inflation. Long before Bernanke came on the job, though, Bob Prechter was thinking and writing about deflation. In this excerpt from Prechter's Perspective http://www.elliottwave.com/more_info/pp.aspx?code=frcp - the useful and interesting book of questions and answers taken from his interviews with the media over the years - Bob explains how a deflationary depression will affect real estate, credit, and the U.S. dollar. * Excerpted from Prechter's Perspective http://www.elliottwave.com/more_info/pp.aspx?code=frcp , re-issued 2004 Q.: It seems there has to be some fundamental change in our current monetary stability to produce such an extended decline that we would be facing deflation. Bob Prechter: The most widely held belief with regard to the future course of national financial affairs is that inflation will accelerate, or, at minimum, continue. I think the case for an impending deflation is overwhelming. The next monetary trend should be a period of severe deflation, just as occurred in 1835-42 and the 1930s. ... Q: So some day, people will want inflation? Bob Prechter: Take, for example, the real estate crunch of 1990. Some people suffering from that minor deflation were already prescribing cures. The Wall Street Journal ran two guest editorials on the desirability of government policies that would regenerate the multi-decade phenomenon of real estate values rising faster than the CPI. The essential message was, Bring back the real estate bubble, delivered under the illusion that the bubble period was normal life and should last forever. Well, the incredible thing is, the bubble reflated! Now, we're right back where we were in 1989 except that the distortions are even greater. A perpetual credit-fueled bubble is not possible, either mathematically or psychologically, but people will certainly want it to continue. The same desire will extend to the stock market as it falls, and the economy. Q: In the 1970s, when the economy and the stock market sputtered, real estate did reasonably well. Bob Prechter: As big as the disaster in stocks is likely to be over the next five to 10 years, it will almost certainly be matched by the upcoming disaster in real estate-related investments. The 1970s were inflationary: the next period of difficulty should be deflationary. Q: Are there manifestations of euphoria in real estate? Bob Prechter: In the past five years, people have been erecting McMansions all over the place - million dollar homes crowded in like condos. It's all financed with credit, and that game is ending. The trap is set. Q: Credit will contract? Bob Prechter: Yes, from long-term bonds all the way down to the broader measures of the money supply. ... Q: At what point might the economy deteriorate so substantially that its condition and trend are no longer bullish for bonds, but bearish? Bob Prechter: When it reaches depression, and a depression is exactly what is on the agenda if the stock market fails to the extent that the Wave Principle http://www.elliottwave.com/books/ewp/default.aspx?code=frcp suggests. The only way for a bond investor to survive a depression is to hold bonds issued by a strong borrower. Weak borrowers, such as most corporations and municipalities, will default. As investors come to the realization that default is a risk, rates on weak debt will rise as its prices fall. Q: What happens to the dollar? Bob Prechter: During the deflation, the dollar's domestic purchasing value should rise, as debt instruments denominated in dollars are defaulted upon. As dollars disappear, the value of the remaining dollars will rise. The same thing has been going on with the Japanese yen in terms of how much you can buy for it in Japan. But how the yen or dollar will perform against other currencies, I couldn't say. We'll have to follow the wave counts. Q: After the initial deflationary hit, what will turn currency values back down? Bob Prechter: It will be the pressure on national governments to create paper money to pay off their debts. Which ones will be destroyed depends upon what course each government chooses when faced with bankruptcy. I am not optimistic that most will take the honest course. Whether or not all paper currencies
Re: [ob] I go bearish
Sy juga mau dong sms pak tasrul. he he 2009/8/21 Tasrul tas...@overseas.co.id Tapi skrg Pak Rei udah belajar trading lho, paling gak kalau mau target harga sms saya hehehehe…semoga cuan Pak Rei -- *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Tan *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2009 1:57 PM *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [ob] I go bearish Yang paling kaya dii OB tuh pak Rei sama engkong SB. Turun beli turun lagi beli lagi lebih banyak, nggak dijual jual. Mau bull mau bear, mau crash kek, anteng aja. Ruaaa biasa. Ga ada abisnya tuh duit... bingung dah saya... he he 2009/8/21 tasru...@yahoo.com Jualnya diem diem aja Pak he he Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From*: s|nnerman *Date*: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:02:49 +0800 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] I go bearish Hehe..orang terkaya di OB jelas hanya 1. Yakni, bozz Tasrul. Dari jaman doeloe hingga kini slogannya hanya satu, ente jual ane beli. Bozz arto aja kadang masiih jualan.. Tapi klo Bozz Tasrul, beli teruss. Hehehe.. Bozz Tasrul kapan jualan? Duitnya ga abis abis niih..?! On 8/21/09, Tasrul tas...@overseas.co.id Tasrul%40overseas.co.id wrote: Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com From: tommy_ya...@yahoo.com tommy_yap99%40yahoo.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 + Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish Cangcutnya lagi di jemur jadi , tunggu kering dulu baru jadi V Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry(r) From: wintama Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09:33 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] I go bearish I GO BEARISH..!!! Party with Buddy! Bling out your Messenger with free winks emoticons. Click here http://discover.windowslive.com/en-id/messenger/messengeris10/#/downloa ds -- Sent from my mobile device
Re: [ob] I go bearish
Huehehe saya paling kaya, memang betul, tapi *kaya **monyet* pak! [?] Skrg sih lagi belajar otodidak trading pak, cuma kagak becus nih...yg saya sms itu masuk investasi pak, walau sdh kena belum jual nih. Serakah mode on [?] Lagi mau cuan kayak pak JT, sehari bisa dobel/triple digit...bisa gak ya satu hari. Masih jauhhh 2009/8/21 Tasrul tas...@overseas.co.id Tapi skrg Pak Rei udah belajar trading lho, paling gak kalau mau target harga sms saya hehehehe…semoga cuan Pak Rei -- *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Tan *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2009 1:57 PM *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [ob] I go bearish Yang paling kaya dii OB tuh pak Rei sama engkong SB. Turun beli turun lagi beli lagi lebih banyak, nggak dijual jual. Mau bull mau bear, mau crash kek, anteng aja. Ruaaa biasa. Ga ada abisnya tuh duit... bingung dah saya... he he 2009/8/21 tasru...@yahoo.com Jualnya diem diem aja Pak he he Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From*: s|nnerman *Date*: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:02:49 +0800 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] I go bearish Hehe..orang terkaya di OB jelas hanya 1. Yakni, bozz Tasrul. Dari jaman doeloe hingga kini slogannya hanya satu, ente jual ane beli. Bozz arto aja kadang masiih jualan.. Tapi klo Bozz Tasrul, beli teruss. Hehehe.. Bozz Tasrul kapan jualan? Duitnya ga abis abis niih..?! On 8/21/09, Tasrul tas...@overseas.co.id Tasrul%40overseas.co.id wrote: Bearish ? hmmm ente jual ane beli To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com From: tommy_ya...@yahoo.com tommy_yap99%40yahoo.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:14:10 + Subject: Re: [ob] I go bearish Cangcutnya lagi di jemur jadi , tunggu kering dulu baru jadi V Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry(r) From: wintama Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:09:33 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] I go bearish I GO BEARISH..!!! Party with Buddy! Bling out your Messenger with free winks emoticons. Click here http://discover.windowslive.com/en-id/messenger/messengeris10/#/downloa ds -- Sent from my mobile device 338.gif329.gif
Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation
Cakep.. :) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote: *The media is starting to use the word 'deflation' everywhere. Be careful. I predict these words are the hot topics for 2H09 - 1H10: * - *deflation: this is the root of all evil. Oversupply, low demand, tight credit. * - *unemployment: productions halted, less purchasing power. * - *debt bubble / USD crash: the end of western domination, and the destruction of capitalism.* - ** - *H1N1: deadly decoy.* - *US - China trade war: it is happening.* *But it would be unfair if I just mention the potential bad news. I also have these: * - *Domestic driven demand: toll roads, micro finance, infrastructure, public transportation* - *Deflation is a good things for consumers, I know Indonesian are all shopping freaks! lolz[?]* *I reduce the risk for NK crisis and election issue as they shows better than expected result. Worst case scenario, the US will disintegrate like the soviet union. If this happens, BUY! I dunno when or how much this will affect the financial market. Give me some prediction.. Fundamentally Indonesia is better than the rest, but this is not the case. The world market is driven by sentiments, greed and fear, and its ripple effect will spread throughout the world. New high? it's possible. -1000, that's an opportunity. I will adapt with the market sentiment (NEUTRAL). The average data reported by the officials show recovery progress, but how far will it stretch? Most of the 'good news' are engineered, earnings are boosted because of lay offs, debt restructuring/write off, asset sales, mergers/acquisition, and tax cuts. At least in the US, but could be very different with Indonesia. So I will say: Buy on US weakness. Feel free to discuss, friends. I'm sorry, I cannot recommend specific stocks at this time. Elaine** * On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Peter Alimin milis...@... wrote: China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation CHINA, GDP, GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT, ECONOMY, GROWTH Reuters | 20 Aug 2009 | 09:47 PM ET China's gross domestic product will grow about 8.5 percent in the third quarter from a year earlier, picking up from the second quarter's 7.9 percent pace, a government think-tank said on Friday. The bullish forecast comes against a background of anxiety in world markets that Chinese growth might falter as a boom in fiscal spending and bank lending peters out. The State Information Centre (SIC) said growth in bank credit would normalize in coming months but warned that any abrupt slowdown in lending would leave many state-backed projects unfinished and result in a new crop of non-performing loans. New lending will rebound to about 500 billion yuan ($73 billion) in August after shrinking to 356 billion yuan in July, the official China Securities Journal reported. In a report carried in the same paper, the SIC said China would stick to its proactive fiscal policy and appropriately loose monetary stance in the second half of the year. China's CPI has been falling for many months and it's a fact that mild deflation exists, so there is no basis for China to alter its monetary policy, the think-tank, which comes under China's economic planning agency, said. It forecast that the consumer price index (CPI) would fall 1.3 percent this quarter from a year earlier and the producer price index would decline 7.9 percent due to the high base of comparison in 2008. The SIC said the Chinese economy has bottomed out but is still growing below potential, mainly due to weak exports. Exports would fall 20 percent in the third quarter, compared with a year earlier, with imports dropping 12.7 percent, the think-tank forecast. Capital spending would remain a key driver for the world's third-largest economy, and urban fixed-asset investment was likely to rise 32 percent in the third quarter, it said. Strong investment is exacerbating many deeply rooted problems, including over-capacity, the think-tank said. It listed steel and cement as sectors with serious over-capacity. It is extremely bad for China's future industrial restructuring and upgrading, the SIC said. It said property investment could potentially replace government spending as the next key driver of growth. Copyright 2009 Reuters. Click for restrictions. -- Party with Buddy! Bling out your Messenger with free winks emoticons. Click herehttp://discover.windowslive.com/en-id/messenger/messengeris10/#/downloads
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Re: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB
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Re: [ob] HOTS ngadat?
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RE: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB
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Re: [ob] Regional
Hang Seng 20,156.19 2:17AM ET 172.67 (0.85%) Straits Times 2,540.04 3:09AM ET 19.53 (0.76%) Nikkei 225 10,238.20 2:00AM ET 145.21 (1.40%) Shanghai Composite 2,933.916 2:17AM ET 22.334 (0.77%) Seoul Composite 1,580.98 2:02AM ET 4.59 (0.29%) Foreign net buy 194 M, tadi hangseng ama singapore mines berat berane nyopet?? Dario Amran --- Pada Jum, 21/8/09, dario kurniawan darioamran1...@yahoo.co.id menulis: Dari: dario kurniawan darioamran1...@yahoo.co.id Judul: Re: [ob] Regional Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 21 Agustus, 2009, 8:50 AM Shanghai Composite 2,892.67 9:33PM ET 18.91 (0.65%) KLSE Composite 1,163.43 5:05AM ET 7.90 (0.68%) Nikkei 225 10,275.56 9:29PM ET 107.85 (1.04%) NZSE 50 3,050.64 9:29PM ET 2.47 (0.08%) Straits Times 2,553.39 9:35PM ET 6.18 (0.24%) Seoul Composite 1,580.53 9:30PM ET 4.14 (0.26%) Taiwan Weighted 6,801.33 9:30PM ET 68.10 (1.01%) Dario Amran --- Pada Jum, 21/8/09, Learning Trader tjun.tr...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: Learning Trader tjun.tr...@gmail. com Judul: Re: [ob] Regional Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Jumat, 21 Agustus, 2009, 8:43 AM 8:42 Shanghai open -0.8% sekarang sudah IJO +0.1% On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Peter Alimin milis...@live. com wrote: STI mixed merah-ijo Nikkei -0.67% Share your memories online with anyone you want anyone you want. Berselancar lebih cepat. Internet Explorer 8 yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! otomatis membuka 2 halaman favorit Anda setiap kali Anda membuka browser.Dapatkan IE8 di sini! (Gratis) __ Apakah Anda Yahoo!? Lelah menerima spam? Surat Yahoo! memiliki perlindungan terbaik terhadap spam http://id.mail.yahoo.com
Re: [ob] HOTS ngadat?
Kayaknya jam 14.00 udah diperbaiki tuh pah sama E- trading 2009/8/21 kayakdayak mhuta...@indosat.net.id mulai 11:29 nggak ada transaksi. kenapa ya?
Re: [ob] Regional
F net buy Time---net 10.52 118.9b 11.01 141.6b 11.19 150.6b 11.23 152.0b 14.20 192.5b 14.27 187.4b 14.31 183.9b 14.45 206.4b --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, dario kurniawan darioamran1...@... wrote: Hang Seng 20,156.19 2:17AM ET 172.67 (0.85%) Straits Times 2,540.04 3:09AM ET 19.53 (0.76%) Nikkei 225 10,238.20 2:00AM ET 145.21 (1.40%) Shanghai Composite 2,933.916 2:17AM ET 22.334 (0.77%) Seoul Composite 1,580.98 2:02AM ET 4.59 (0.29%) Foreign net buy 194 M, tadi hangseng ama singapore mines berat berane nyopet?? Dario Amran --- Pada Jum, 21/8/09, dario kurniawan darioamran1...@... menulis: Dari: dario kurniawan darioamran1...@... Judul: Re: [ob] Regional Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Jumat, 21 Agustus, 2009, 8:50 AM Shanghai Composite 2,892.67 9:33PM ET 18.91 (0.65%) KLSE Composite 1,163.43 5:05AM ET 7.90 (0.68%) Nikkei 225 10,275.56 9:29PM ET 107.85 (1.04%) NZSE 50 3,050.64 9:29PM ET 2.47 (0.08%) Straits Times 2,553.39 9:35PM ET 6.18 (0.24%) Seoul Composite 1,580.53 9:30PM ET 4.14 (0.26%) Taiwan Weighted 6,801.33 9:30PM ET 68.10 (1.01%) Dario Amran --- Pada Jum, 21/8/09, Learning Trader tjun.tr...@gmail. com menulis: Dari: Learning Trader tjun.tr...@gmail. com Judul: Re: [ob] Regional Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Jumat, 21 Agustus, 2009, 8:43 AM 8:42 Shanghai open -0.8% sekarang sudah IJO +0.1% On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Peter Alimin milis...@live. com wrote: STI mixed merah-ijo Nikkei -0.67% Share your memories online with anyone you want anyone you want. Berselancar lebih cepat. Internet Explorer 8 yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! otomatis membuka 2 halaman favorit Anda setiap kali Anda membuka browser.Dapatkan IE8 di sini! (Gratis) __ Apakah Anda Yahoo!? Lelah menerima spam? Surat Yahoo! memiliki perlindungan terbaik terhadap spam http://id.mail.yahoo.com
Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation
hehe. China CPI turun terus.. diEksporlah Deflasinya kesini.. barang yg udah murah dilempar lebih murah lagi. since Indonesia Rakyatnya pada doyan belanja.. kebetulan domestic liquiditynya juga lumayan..disikatlah itu barang2 turunan deflasi. so every Indonesian will lend their shoulders helping distant brother china taking care of world's economic recovery ya. jadi? marilah kita belanja gitu maksudnya?! No Specific Stocks Recommendation? please share a bit here kind lady... Afterall we here Indonesian should be shopping rite?! On 8/21/09, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote: *The media is starting to use the word 'deflation' everywhere. Be careful. I predict these words are the hot topics for 2H09 - 1H10: * - *deflation: this is the root of all evil. Oversupply, low demand, tight credit. * - *unemployment: productions halted, less purchasing power. * - *debt bubble / USD crash: the end of western domination, and the destruction of capitalism.* - ** - *H1N1: deadly decoy.* - *US - China trade war: it is happening.* *But it would be unfair if I just mention the potential bad news. I also have these: * - *Domestic driven demand: toll roads, micro finance, infrastructure, public transportation* - *Deflation is a good things for consumers, I know Indonesian are all shopping freaks! lolz[?]* *I reduce the risk for NK crisis and election issue as they shows better than expected result. Worst case scenario, the US will disintegrate like the soviet union. If this happens, BUY! I dunno when or how much this will affect the financial market. Give me some prediction.. Fundamentally Indonesia is better than the rest, but this is not the case. The world market is driven by sentiments, greed and fear, and its ripple effect will spread throughout the world. New high? it's possible. -1000, that's an opportunity. I will adapt with the market sentiment (NEUTRAL). The average data reported by the officials show recovery progress, but how far will it stretch? Most of the 'good news' are engineered, earnings are boosted because of lay offs, debt restructuring/write off, asset sales, mergers/acquisition, and tax cuts. At least in the US, but could be very different with Indonesia. So I will say: Buy on US weakness. Feel free to discuss, friends. I'm sorry, I cannot recommend specific stocks at this time. Elaine** * On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Peter Alimin milis...@live.com wrote: China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation CHINA, GDP, GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT, ECONOMY, GROWTH Reuters | 20 Aug 2009 | 09:47 PM ET China's gross domestic product will grow about 8.5 percent in the third quarter from a year earlier, picking up from the second quarter's 7.9 percent pace, a government think-tank said on Friday. The bullish forecast comes against a background of anxiety in world markets that Chinese growth might falter as a boom in fiscal spending and bank lending peters out. The State Information Centre (SIC) said growth in bank credit would normalize in coming months but warned that any abrupt slowdown in lending would leave many state-backed projects unfinished and result in a new crop of non-performing loans. New lending will rebound to about 500 billion yuan ($73 billion) in August after shrinking to 356 billion yuan in July, the official China Securities Journal reported. In a report carried in the same paper, the SIC said China would stick to its proactive fiscal policy and appropriately loose monetary stance in the second half of the year. China's CPI has been falling for many months and it's a fact that mild deflation exists, so there is no basis for China to alter its monetary policy, the think-tank, which comes under China's economic planning agency, said. It forecast that the consumer price index (CPI) would fall 1.3 percent this quarter from a year earlier and the producer price index would decline 7.9 percent due to the high base of comparison in 2008. The SIC said the Chinese economy has bottomed out but is still growing below potential, mainly due to weak exports. Exports would fall 20 percent in the third quarter, compared with a year earlier, with imports dropping 12.7 percent, the think-tank forecast. Capital spending would remain a key driver for the world's third-largest economy, and urban fixed-asset investment was likely to rise 32 percent in the third quarter, it said. Strong investment is exacerbating many deeply rooted problems, including over-capacity, the think-tank said. It listed steel and cement as sectors with serious over-capacity. It is extremely bad for China's future industrial restructuring and upgrading, the SIC said. It said property investment could potentially replace government spending as the next key driver of growth. Copyright 2009 Reuters. Click for restrictions. -- Party with Buddy! Bling
RE: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation
Kang Ocoy, Jadi hanya itu dampaknya? Rgds, From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bagus Putra Perdana Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 2:48 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation hehe. China CPI turun terus.. diEksporlah Deflasinya kesini.. barang yg udah murah dilempar lebih murah lagi. since Indonesia Rakyatnya pada doyan belanja.. kebetulan domestic liquiditynya juga lumayan..disikatlah itu barang2 turunan deflasi. so every Indonesian will lend their shoulders helping distant brother china taking care of world's economic recovery ya. jadi? marilah kita belanja gitu maksudnya?! No Specific Stocks Recommendation? please share a bit here kind lady... Afterall we here Indonesian should be shopping rite?! On 8/21/09, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote: The media is starting to use the word 'deflation' everywhere. Be careful. I predict these words are the hot topics for 2H09 - 1H10: * deflation: this is the root of all evil. Oversupply, low demand, tight credit. * unemployment: productions halted, less purchasing power. * debt bubble / USD crash: the end of western domination, and the destruction of capitalism. * * H1N1: deadly decoy. * US - China trade war: it is happening. But it would be unfair if I just mention the potential bad news. I also have these: * Domestic driven demand: toll roads, micro finance, infrastructure, public transportation * Deflation is a good things for consumers, I know Indonesian are all shopping freaks! lolz I reduce the risk for NK crisis and election issue as they shows better than expected result. Worst case scenario, the US will disintegrate like the soviet union. If this happens, BUY! I dunno when or how much this will affect the financial market. Give me some prediction.. Fundamentally Indonesia is better than the rest, but this is not the case. The world market is driven by sentiments, greed and fear, and its ripple effect will spread throughout the world. New high? it's possible. -1000, that's an opportunity. I will adapt with the market sentiment (NEUTRAL). The average data reported by the officials show recovery progress, but how far will it stretch? Most of the 'good news' are engineered, earnings are boosted because of lay offs, debt restructuring/write off, asset sales, mergers/acquisition, and tax cuts. At least in the US, but could be very different with Indonesia. So I will say: Buy on US weakness. Feel free to discuss, friends. I'm sorry, I cannot recommend specific stocks at this time. Elaine On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Peter Alimin milis...@live.com wrote: China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation CHINA, GDP, GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT, ECONOMY, GROWTH Reuters | 20 Aug 2009 | 09:47 PM ET China's gross domestic product will grow about 8.5 percent in the third quarter from a year earlier, picking up from the second quarter's 7.9 percent pace, a government think-tank said on Friday. The bullish forecast comes against a background of anxiety in world markets that Chinese growth might falter as a boom in fiscal spending and bank lending peters out. The State Information Centre (SIC) said growth in bank credit would normalize in coming months but warned that any abrupt slowdown in lending would leave many state-backed projects unfinished and result in a new crop of non-performing loans. New lending will rebound to about 500 billion yuan ($73 billion) in August after shrinking to 356 billion yuan in July, the official China Securities Journal reported. In a report carried in the same paper, the SIC said China would stick to its proactive fiscal policy and appropriately loose monetary stance in the second half of the year. China's CPI has been falling for many months and it's a fact that mild deflation exists, so there is no basis for China to alter its monetary policy, the think-tank, which comes under China's economic planning agency, said. It forecast that the consumer price index (CPI) would fall 1.3 percent this quarter from a year earlier and the producer price index would decline 7.9 percent due to the high base of comparison in 2008. The SIC said the Chinese economy has bottomed out but is still growing below potential, mainly due to weak exports. Exports would fall 20 percent in the third quarter, compared with a year earlier, with imports dropping 12.7 percent, the think-tank forecast. Capital spending would remain a key driver for the world's third-largest economy, and urban fixed-asset investment was likely to rise 32 percent in the third quarter, it said. Strong investment is exacerbating many deeply rooted problems, including over-capacity, the think-tank said. It listed steel and cement as sectors with serious over-capacity. It is extremely bad for China's future industrial restructuring and
Re: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB
Sip bang tasrul, mantappp aplikasi bbnya Matur nuwun:) Best Regards **bLi iNdRa** ==cuan ga cuan yg penting happy== -Original Message- From: Edwin bukutu...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:26:53 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB Ini aplikasi midlet di java, musti ada file .jar nya 2009/8/21 nyari duit nyariduit...@gmail.com Kok ndak percaya sih ama om Tasrul.. Download aja.. Saya udah.. But, i won't tell u.. he he.. Biar penasaran ND On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:18 PM, stock.bree...@yahoo.com wrote: Whaz thiz Mr.Tasrul ??? :).. -Original Message- From: tasru...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:00:07 To: Obrolan Bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB Http://www.domikado.com/bb/domikado.jadhttp://www.domikado.com/bb/domikado.jad Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links -- add FB dengan email: nyari...@gmail.com
Re: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB
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[ob] china rebound
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Re: [ob] Ramadhan : Mohon Maaf Lahir Bathin
Sama2 pak TA...mohon maaf lahir batin.. - original message - Subject: Re: [ob] Ramadhan : Mohon Maaf Lahir Bathin From: jku...@yahoo.com Date: 21/08/2009 2:02 PM Sama2 pak Tasrul, kan cuannya sama2 juga. Salam, Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Tasrul tas...@overseas.co.id Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:24:43 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Ramadhan : Mohon Maaf Lahir Bathin Menyambut Ramadhan ane minta maaf lahir bathin kalau ada salah salah kata , salah rekomendasi yang harusnya jual jadi beli, yang harusnya beli jadi jual , yang harusnya tampung jadi guyur , yang guyur jadi tampung , yang gak bisa munculin chartnya dan cuma ngomong doang dan gak bisa kasih chart atas permintaan OBers, dll he he he. Maapin ye... dan semoga tradingnya cuan terus (Tasrul Keluarga) Tasrul PT. Overseas Securities Research Analyst Plaza Bapindo Mandiri Tower Lt.16 tas...@overseas.co.id mailto:tas...@overseas.co.id Jl. Jend.Sudirman Kav.54-55 Jakarta - 12190, Indonesia Phone 62.21.5277008 Fax62.21.5277009 DISCLAIMER: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the named addressee(s) is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. PT. Overseas Securities accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.
RE: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB
Gak tahu juga Pak saya juga dikasih teman hehehe From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Win Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 2:56 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB ini asuhan siapa pak? On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:00 PM, tasru...@yahoo.com mailto:tasru...@yahoo.com wrote: Http://www.domikado.com/bb/domikado.jad Http://www.domikado.com/bb/domikado.jad Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry(r) + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links (Yahoo! ID required) mailto:obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com
[ob] Penyebab China jebol?
Mungkin ini sebagai alasan saja tapi jebolnya CHina karena pemerintah di sana tidak mendukung pergerakan pasar modal. Masih ingat saat China jebol sekitar 1-2 tahun lalu? Saat itu karena pemerintah China menerapkan pajak lebih tinggi. It has nothing to do with stock.
Re: [ob] Ramadhan : Mohon Maaf Lahir Bathin
Sama-sama Pak Tasrul.. Buat OBers yang lain, maapin ane juga ya.. Salam, ND On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Tasrul tas...@overseas.co.id wrote: Menyambut Ramadhan ane minta maaf lahir bathin kalau ada salah salah kata , salah rekomendasi yang harusnya jual jadi beli, yang harusnya beli jadi jual , yang harusnya tampung jadi guyur , yang guyur jadi tampung , yang gak bisa munculin chartnya dan cuma ngomong doang dan gak bisa kasih chart atas permintaan OBers, dll he he he. Maapin ye… dan semoga tradingnya cuan terus (Tasrul Keluarga) * * *Tasrul* PT. Overseas Securities Research Analyst Plaza Bapindo Mandiri Tower Lt.16 *tas...@overseas.co.id* Jl. Jend.Sudirman Kav.54-55 Jakarta – 12190, Indonesia Phone 62.21.5277008 Fax62.21.5277009 *DISCLAIMER:* This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the named addressee(s) is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. PT. Overseas Securities accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. -- add FB dengan email: nyari...@gmail.com
Re: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB
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Re: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB
Ih ternyata bang tasrul moi juga yakirain gelutan trs ama chart ngebayanginnya pasti profil kuno ...kaca mata tebel.ternyata..up to date b.GBU bang sukses trs ya. Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: **bLi-iNdRa** gusin...@rocketmail.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 07:53:38 To: Obrolan Bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB Sip bang tasrul, mantappp aplikasi bbnya Matur nuwun:) Best Regards **bLi iNdRa** ==cuan ga cuan yg penting happy== -Original Message- From: Edwin bukutu...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:26:53 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB Ini aplikasi midlet di java, musti ada file .jar nya 2009/8/21 nyari duit nyariduit...@gmail.com Kok ndak percaya sih ama om Tasrul.. Download aja.. Saya udah.. But, i won't tell u.. he he.. Biar penasaran ND On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:18 PM, stock.bree...@yahoo.com wrote: Whaz thiz Mr.Tasrul ??? :).. -Original Message- From: tasru...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:00:07 To: Obrolan Bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB Http://www.domikado.com/bb/domikado.jadhttp://www.domikado.com/bb/domikado.jad Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links -- add FB dengan email: nyari...@gmail.com
Re: [ob] IHSG
Artinya uptrend ya tapi itu yg tiga garis kayanya ndak menggelembung malahan menyiut artinya jelek ya. sorry noob nih, hanya belajar memahami From: JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:00:52 PM Subject: [ob] IHSG Dari pada ngantuk, iseng-iseng coret2…., gak tau juga dah artinya apa… hehe.. JT
[ob] SP: Koreksi Bursa China Adalah Sinyal Positif untuk Asia...
SP: Koreksi Bursa China Adalah Sinyal Positif untuk Asia SINGAPURA. Koreksi akhir pada Bursa China merupakan sinyal positif untuk pasar lokal dan semestinya tidak menggebuk outlook jangka menengah untuk saham-saham di Bursa Asia secara umum. Hal ini ditegaskan oleh agen pemeringkat global Standard Poor's, Kamis (20/8). Shanghai Composite Index telah anjlok dari titik yang cukup tinggi sepanjang tahun ini di level 3.478 yang dicapai pada 4 Agustus 2009 lalu. Indeks ini terakhir diperdagangkan di level 2.851. Head of Equity Research SP Lorraine Tan memprediksikan, indeks di bursa China akan mencapai 3.300 pada akhir tahun ini dengan target di tahun 2010 bakal menyentuh 3800. Hal ini akan menempatkan China sebagai pasar saham yang terbaik nomor dua setelah Indonesia. Bagaimanapun juga, Tan menegaskan, bahwa peningkatan outlook untuk perekonomian global dan pendapatan perusahaan dalam beberapa minggu ke depan akan kembali menggiring SP untuk meningkatkan prediksi bagi saham-saham China. Peningkatan sebesar 10% pada prediksi kami bukanlah tidak mungkin, katanya. Untuk tahun depan, Tan menegaskan bahwa saham-saham di Asia akan tergiring ke dalam tren positif dengan peningkatan di lini manapun antara single digit hingga 15%.
RE: [ob] Re: Dow Update : MACD Optimized
Tuh udah +3, kegocek juga kan ? jangan-jangan ntar malem Dow ijo lagi nih (ngarep banget ya..) From: Tasrul Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 1:14 PM To: 'obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com' Subject: RE: [ob] Re: Dow Update : MACD Optimized Skrg udah -45 per 1:13 PM ti ati From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sulistyo_winarto Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 11:34 AM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Re: Dow Update : MACD Optimized Pak Tasrul, DOW - 63 jam 11.30. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , Tasrul tas...@... wrote: Hati-hati kegocek sama Dow Future yg saat ini -50. Semoga gak slip, dan Dow rally lagi. Tasrul PT. Overseas Securities Research Analyst Plaza Bapindo Mandiri Tower Lt.16 tas...@... mailto:tas...@... Jl. Jend.Sudirman Kav.54-55 Jakarta - 12190, Indonesia Phone 62.21.5277008 Fax 62.21.5277009 DISCLAIMER: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the named addressee(s) is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. PT. Overseas Securities accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.
RE: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB
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RE: [ob] IHSG
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Re: [ob] Regional
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Re: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB
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RE: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB
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Re: [ob] IHSG
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Re: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB
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Re: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB
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RE: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB
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[ob] CPIN ada apa ya?
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Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation
saya kurang ngerti Makro sih. tapi yg jelas kalo ga salah ambil kesimpulan. Kondisinya kalo kaya sekarang kan pemulihan Ekonomi Amerika belun keliatan nyata. sementara upaya banjirin likuiditas dari mereka juga udah optimum (lebih dari ini level defisit mereka udah terlalu parah). yang berarti peran konsumsi dunia sekarang udah susah tetep dipegang Amerika lagi., nah siapa yg mo mikul beban ambil alih konsumsi dunia supaya pemulihan ekonomi dunia bisa berlangsung tidak terlalu lama. cina sendiri keliatannya rada hesitant juga jadi 1 1nya pengambil alih konsumsi dunia sekarang ini. yg jadi masalah adalah kalo pemulihan ekonomi baru terjadi rada lama dari sekarang (kurva pemulihannya akan berbentuk L bukan V) maka penyakit2 yg sekarang udah agak tertahan semacem klaim CDS, tagihan seret, pinjeman bermasalah bisa muncul lagi ke permukaan dan bikin semuanya jadi kurang cihuy lah buat pasar keuangan. good thing nya sih US paling tidak sampe semester depan masih harus terus jaga suku bunganya di level rendah. ini akan menguntungkan buat negara2 yg secara natural tidak terlalu bergantung pada ekspor untuk menggerakkan ekonominya (Indonesia salah satunya) BTW bicara sedikit tentang deflasi china yg diekspor ke seluruh dunia. asli saya kaget kemaren liat HP China ternyata murah2 amat ya dengan fitur2 yg lumayan. itu costnya berapa bisa ampe lepas barang di harga segitu.. gile On 8/21/09, Ferry ferry.wachj...@gmail.com wrote: Kang Ocoy, Jadi hanya itu dampaknya? Rgds, *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Bagus Putra Perdana *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2009 2:48 PM *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation hehe. China CPI turun terus.. diEksporlah Deflasinya kesini.. barang yg udah murah dilempar lebih murah lagi. since Indonesia Rakyatnya pada doyan belanja.. kebetulan domestic liquiditynya juga lumayan..disikatlah itu barang2 turunan deflasi. so every Indonesian will lend their shoulders helping distant brother china taking care of world's economic recovery ya. jadi? marilah kita belanja gitu maksudnya?! No Specific Stocks Recommendation? please share a bit here kind lady... Afterall we here Indonesian should be shopping rite?! On 8/21/09, *Elaine Sui* elainesu...@gmail.com wrote: *The media is starting to use the word 'deflation' everywhere. Be careful. I predict these words are the hot topics for 2H09 - 1H10:* - *deflation: this is the root of all evil. Oversupply, low demand, tight credit.* - *unemployment: productions halted, less purchasing power.* - *debt bubble / USD crash: the end of western domination, and the destruction of capitalism.* - - *H1N1: deadly decoy.* - *US - China trade war: it is happening.* *But it would be unfair if I just mention the potential bad news. I also have these:* - *Domestic driven demand: toll roads, micro finance, infrastructure, public transportation* - *Deflation is a good things for consumers, I know Indonesian are all shopping freaks! lolz* *I reduce the risk for NK crisis and election issue as they shows better than expected result. Worst case scenario, the US will disintegrate like the soviet union. If this happens, BUY! I dunno when or how much this will affect the financial market. Give me some prediction.. Fundamentally Indonesia is better than the rest, but this is not the case. The world market is driven by sentiments, greed and fear, and its ripple effect will spread throughout the world. New high? it's possible. -1000, that's an opportunity. I will adapt with the market sentiment (NEUTRAL). The average data reported by the officials show recovery progress, but how far will it stretch? Most of the 'good news' are engineered, earnings are boosted because of lay offs, debt restructuring/write off, asset sales, mergers/acquisition, and tax cuts. At least in the US, but could be very different with Indonesia. So I will say: **Buy on US weakness.** Feel free to discuss, friends. I'm sorry, I cannot recommend specific stocks at this time. Elaine* On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Peter Alimin milis...@live.com wrote: China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation CHINA, GDP, GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT, ECONOMY, GROWTH Reuters | 20 Aug 2009 | 09:47 PM ET China's gross domestic product will grow about 8.5 percent in the third quarter from a year earlier, picking up from the second quarter's 7.9 percent pace, a government think-tank said on Friday. The bullish forecast comes against a background of anxiety in world markets that Chinese growth might falter as a boom in fiscal spending and bank lending peters out. The State Information Centre (SIC) said growth in bank credit would normalize in coming months but warned that any abrupt slowdown in lending would leave many state-backed projects unfinished and
Re: [ob] CPRO...
CPRO, mulai lagi.,.. jangan-jangan di akhir session, ada yg borong? --- On Fri, 8/21/09, frombuitenzorg frombuitenz...@yahoo.com wrote:
Re: [ob] CPIN ada apa ya?
PT Charoen Pokphan Ind. Tbk (CPIN) diprediksi akan menuai untung dari permintaan pakan ternak jenis jagung dan kacang kedelai yang masih tinggi walaupun ekonomi sedang lesu. Demikian penjeasan analis Reliance Securities Gina Novrina Nasution dalam risetnya Jumat (21/8). Ia memprediksi penjualan CPIN pun tahun ini akan sama sedengan tahun lalu sebesar Rp13 triliun. Beli saham CPIN dengan targer harga Rp1.400, kata Gina. Pada penutupan perdagangan kemarin (20/8), harga saham CPIN ditutup melonjak 100 poin ke level 1.230. 2009/8/21 datasahamku datasaha...@yahoo.com mohon sharing info CPIN
Re: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB
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Re: [ob] CPRO...
Good, stochastic udah cross up, descending kemungkinan bisa batal nih. Target 100 dulu, tapi hati2 kalau 90 di-break lagi. GBU --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, DR dadiresmawa...@... wrote: CPRO, mulai lagi.,.. jangan-jangan di akhir session, ada yg borong? --- On Fri, 8/21/09, frombuitenzorg frombuitenz...@... wrote:
Re: [ob] CPIN ada apa ya?
Fundamental ALWAYS win at THE END... - http://www.investdata.net/QZ92LIVA.TXT - http://www.investdata.net/QWCPIN.TXT --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, purnama saputra purnama...@... wrote: PT Charoen Pokphan Ind. Tbk (CPIN) diprediksi akan menuai untung dari permintaan pakan ternak jenis jagung dan kacang kedelai yang masih tinggi walaupun ekonomi sedang lesu. Demikian penjeasan analis Reliance Securities Gina Novrina Nasution dalam risetnya Jumat (21/8). Ia memprediksi penjualan CPIN pun tahun ini akan sama sedengan tahun lalu sebesar Rp13 triliun. Beli saham CPIN dengan targer harga Rp1.400, kata Gina. Pada penutupan perdagangan kemarin (20/8), harga saham CPIN ditutup melonjak 100 poin ke level 1.230. 2009/8/21 datasahamku datasaha...@... mohon sharing info CPIN
Re: [ob] Tes
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Re: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB
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Re: [ob] DEWA UDANG
Sigh.. ada aja yg nulis sembarangan spt ini. Supir Medan = pasti masuk jurang? Oii..ati ati bah.Horas Lae..mauliate godang lah .. hati2 jalan di depan banyak tikungan tajam, pilih supir yang jago nyupir, jangan pake supir medan ya, ntar malah masuk jurang.
[ob] Re: CPIN ada apa ya?
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, datasahamku datasaha...@... wrote: mohon sharing info CPIN buka www.investdata.net liat yg punyanya CPIN Barang bagus dan murah... :)
[ob] Selamat Menunaikan Ibadah Puasa
Memasuki bulan suci Ramadhan 1430 H, Tim Hepisaham mengucapkan selamat menjalankan ibadah puasa bagi yang melaksanakannya, semoga Tuhan senantiasa melimpahkan karunia buat Obers semua. Mohon dimaafkan semua postingan Tim Hepisaham yang tidak berkenan di hati Obers. kindly regards. hepisaham *simple and stress free trading style*
[ob] MOHON MAAF LAHIR BATIN
All, Pastinya ane sering menyinggung perasaan temen-temen, baik sengaja maupun tidak sengaja, jadi untuk itu sungguh ane minta maap nih., dan mohon do'anya supaya ane dikasi kekuatan lahir batin untuk menjalankan ibadah puasa sampe pol. amin. Trus, kalau ada yang nyangkut gara-gara ane, ane juga mohon maap., sumpe kalo itu kecelakaan, ane kagak sengaja'in., hehehe Selamat Menjalankan Ibadah Puasa bagi temen2 yg menjalankannya. Very Best Regards, JT
Re: [ob] Selamat Menunaikan Ibadah Puasa
Akan dimaafin setelah ngasih bocoran. heheh.. Regards, DE Pada 21 Agustus 2009 16:08, hepisahamhepisa...@gmail.com menulis: Memasuki bulan suci Ramadhan 1430 H, Tim Hepisaham mengucapkan selamat menjalankan ibadah puasa bagi yang melaksanakannya, semoga Tuhan senantiasa melimpahkan karunia buat Obers semua. Mohon dimaafkan semua postingan Tim Hepisaham yang tidak berkenan di hati Obers.
Re: [ob] CPRO...
targetnya 100 atau 150 Bill ?... :) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, billy_budiman92 billybudima...@... wrote: Good, stochastic udah cross up, descending kemungkinan bisa batal nih. Target 100 dulu, tapi hati2 kalau 90 di-break lagi. GBU --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, DR dadiresmawan02@ wrote: CPRO, mulai lagi.,.. jangan-jangan di akhir session, ada yg borong? --- On Fri, 8/21/09, frombuitenzorg frombuitenzorg@ wrote:
Re: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB
Thank pak Tasrul..ada lagi sofware yang bisa didownload? Salam, Yan Powered by my BerryBerry® -Original Message- From: Tasrul tas...@overseas.co.id Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:28:43 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB Iya kali warga OB kan ada sekitar 8000 org kalo 1/3 nya aja pake BB juga berat kali From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nyari duit Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:25 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB Tadi pas awal download bisa, beberapa saat setelah itu nggak bisa konek. Mungkin server nya down.. mungkin karena warga ob pada download dan konek barengan, jadi nggak kuat, he he.. Salam, ND 2009/8/21 Hadiah 2000 hadiah2...@gmail.com mailto:hadiah2...@gmail.com pak kok unable to connect to server ? server domikado nya lagi down ya? (iseng2 drpd liat market..ngantuk) 2009/8/21 Tasrul tas...@overseas.co.id mailto:tas...@overseas.co.id Sama-sama semoga bermanfaat From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Hadiah 2000 Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 2:25 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB mantap softwarenya pak tasrul..thanks ya 2009/8/21 tasru...@yahoo.com mailto:tasru...@yahoo.com Cuma buat market info dan sejenisnya aja Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry(r) -Original Message- From: paramanand...@yahoo.com mailto:paramanand...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:07:26 To: OBobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB Om Tasrul, ini aplikasi apa ya, apakah robot spt punya om DE...? Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry(r) -Original Message- From: tasru...@yahoo.com mailto:tasru...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 05:00:07 To: Obrolan Bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB Http://www.domikado.com/bb/domikado.jad http://www.domikado.com/bb/domikado.jad Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry(r) + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links (Yahoo! ID required) mailto:obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com -- add FB dengan email: nyari...@gmail.com mailto:nyari...@gmail.com
Re: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB
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Re: [ob] MOHON MAAF LAHIR BATIN
Kalo lagi puasa ga boleh nyopet lho prof...ntar puasanya ga afdhol..he..he Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Bakrie Group -Original Message- From: JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:15:27 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com; metastock...@yahoogroups.com; analisasa...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] MOHON MAAF LAHIR BATIN All, Pastinya ane sering menyinggung perasaan temen-temen, baik sengaja maupun tidak sengaja, jadi untuk itu sungguh ane minta maap nih., dan mohon do'anya supaya ane dikasi kekuatan lahir batin untuk menjalankan ibadah puasa sampe pol. amin. Trus, kalau ada yang nyangkut gara-gara ane, ane juga mohon maap., sumpe kalo itu kecelakaan, ane kagak sengaja'in., hehehe Selamat Menjalankan Ibadah Puasa bagi temen2 yg menjalankannya. Very Best Regards, JT
Re: [ob] Tes
Yang ini doang yg masuk pak.. topik lain nggak bisa masuk.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tommy_ya...@... wrote: Ini masuk pak Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Peter Alimin milis...@... Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:18:53 To: OBobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Tes Ada yg emailnya pake hotmail/live kesulitan terima? d inbox sy email OB pada ga masuk nih..apa gara2 teriak bear?? _ Share your memories online with anyone you want. http://www.microsoft.com/indonesia/windows/windowslive/products/photos-share.aspx?tab=1
RE: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB
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Bls: [ob] Selamat Menunaikan Ibadah Puasa
jangan kasih hep..nnti dishort sama robotnya om DE...ha ha ha... Dari: Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Jumat, 21 Agustus, 2009 16:16:51 Judul: Re: [ob] Selamat Menunaikan Ibadah Puasa Akan dimaafin setelah ngasih bocoran. heheh.. Regards, DE Pada 21 Agustus 2009 16:08, hepisahamhepisa...@gmail. com menulis: Memasuki bulan suci Ramadhan 1430 H, Tim Hepisaham mengucapkan selamat menjalankan ibadah puasa bagi yang melaksanakannya, semoga Tuhan senantiasa melimpahkan karunia buat Obers semua. Mohon dimaafkan semua postingan Tim Hepisaham yang tidak berkenan di hati Obers. Mulai chatting dengan teman di Yahoo! Pingbox baru sekarang!! Membuat tempat chat pribadi di blog Anda sekarang sangatlah mudah. http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/
Re: [ob] CPIN ada apa ya?
makasih sekali Mbah, dr sekilas lihat PER-nya masih rendah sekitar 3.6X, klo JPFA 5.6X --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote: Fundamental ALWAYS win at THE END... - http://www.investdata.net/QZ92LIVA.TXT - http://www.investdata.net/QWCPIN.TXT --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, purnama saputra purnamacpi@ wrote: PT Charoen Pokphan Ind. Tbk (CPIN) diprediksi akan menuai untung dari permintaan pakan ternak jenis jagung dan kacang kedelai yang masih tinggi walaupun ekonomi sedang lesu. Demikian penjeasan analis Reliance Securities Gina Novrina Nasution dalam risetnya Jumat (21/8). Ia memprediksi penjualan CPIN pun tahun ini akan sama sedengan tahun lalu sebesar Rp13 triliun. Beli saham CPIN dengan targer harga Rp1.400, kata Gina.
Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation
Di Indonesia sering terjadi anomali... untuk barang dengan fungsi yang sama (spt HP), orang lebih milih hp yang lebih mahal, katakanlah branded, dibanding hp china. Kita masih menganut paham ada harga, ada rupa, alias harga menentukan kualitas (ada benernya juga sih) Bbrp bulan lalu, ada sale sendal CROC yang mahal itu, dan antriannya naujubilah penuh sesek, yang kalo dilihat sebenernya engga worth it punya sendal teplek seharga 300rb, sementara di carefour sendal serupa bisa diperoleh dgn harga 25rb. Hal serupa juga terjadi pada booming blackberry, padahal cuma buat chatting gak jelas, sama upload facebook (yang juga engga jelas). Hebat yah kita, di sektor riil engga ada tuh krisis. Krisis cuma ada di bursa saham sama di OB doang. hehehe.. Bener kata EL, deflasi menguntungkan konsumen spt kita, wong harga turun tapi gaji sama bonus tetep, malah naek... heheh Tapi menjelang bulan puasa+lebaran, belum pernah tuh harga turun, malah pada naik nih.. apalagi minyak goreng.. minyak goreng.. minyak goreng.. minyak goreng.. kertas.. kertas.. kertas.. kertas.. mobil.. mobil.. mobil.. mobil... Regards, DE 2009/8/21 Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com: saya kurang ngerti Makro sih. tapi yg jelas kalo ga salah ambil kesimpulan. Kondisinya kalo kaya sekarang kan pemulihan Ekonomi Amerika belun keliatan nyata. sementara upaya banjirin likuiditas dari mereka juga udah optimum (lebih dari ini level defisit mereka udah terlalu parah). yang berarti peran konsumsi dunia sekarang udah susah tetep dipegang Amerika lagi., nah siapa yg mo mikul beban ambil alih konsumsi dunia supaya pemulihan ekonomi dunia bisa berlangsung tidak terlalu lama. cina sendiri keliatannya rada hesitant juga jadi 1 1nya pengambil alih konsumsi dunia sekarang ini. yg jadi masalah adalah kalo pemulihan ekonomi baru terjadi rada lama dari sekarang (kurva pemulihannya akan berbentuk L bukan V) maka penyakit2 yg sekarang udah agak tertahan semacem klaim CDS, tagihan seret, pinjeman bermasalah bisa muncul lagi ke permukaan dan bikin semuanya jadi kurang cihuy lah buat pasar keuangan. good thing nya sih US paling tidak sampe semester depan masih harus terus jaga suku bunganya di level rendah. ini akan menguntungkan buat negara2 yg secara natural tidak terlalu bergantung pada ekspor untuk menggerakkan ekonominya (Indonesia salah satunya) BTW bicara sedikit tentang deflasi china yg diekspor ke seluruh dunia. asli saya kaget kemaren liat HP China ternyata murah2 amat ya dengan fitur2 yg lumayan. itu costnya berapa bisa ampe lepas barang di harga segitu.. gile On 8/21/09, Ferry ferry.wachj...@gmail.com wrote: Kang Ocoy, Jadi hanya itu dampaknya? Rgds, From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bagus Putra Perdana Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 2:48 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation hehe. China CPI turun terus.. diEksporlah Deflasinya kesini.. barang yg udah murah dilempar lebih murah lagi. since Indonesia Rakyatnya pada doyan belanja.. kebetulan domestic liquiditynya juga lumayan..disikatlah itu barang2 turunan deflasi. so every Indonesian will lend their shoulders helping distant brother china taking care of world's economic recovery ya. jadi? marilah kita belanja gitu maksudnya?! No Specific Stocks Recommendation? please share a bit here kind lady... Afterall we here Indonesian should be shopping rite?! On 8/21/09, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote: The media is starting to use the word 'deflation' everywhere. Be careful. I predict these words are the hot topics for 2H09 - 1H10: deflation: this is the root of all evil. Oversupply, low demand, tight credit. unemployment: productions halted, less purchasing power. debt bubble / USD crash: the end of western domination, and the destruction of capitalism. H1N1: deadly decoy. US - China trade war: it is happening. But it would be unfair if I just mention the potential bad news. I also have these: Domestic driven demand: toll roads, micro finance, infrastructure, public transportation Deflation is a good things for consumers, I know Indonesian are all shopping freaks! lolz I reduce the risk for NK crisis and election issue as they shows better than expected result. Worst case scenario, the US will disintegrate like the soviet union. If this happens, BUY! I dunno when or how much this will affect the financial market. Give me some prediction.. Fundamentally Indonesia is better than the rest, but this is not the case. The world market is driven by sentiments, greed and fear, and its ripple effect will spread throughout the world. New high? it's possible. -1000, that's an opportunity. I will adapt with the market sentiment (NEUTRAL). The average data reported by the officials show recovery progress, but how far will it stretch? Most of the 'good news' are engineered, earnings
Re: [ob] CPRO...
Bil tlg liatin fren donk.. Thx yah Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: billy_budiman92 billybudima...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:45:41 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] CPRO... Good, stochastic udah cross up, descending kemungkinan bisa batal nih. Target 100 dulu, tapi hati2 kalau 90 di-break lagi. GBU --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, DR dadiresmawa...@... wrote: CPRO, mulai lagi.,.. jangan-jangan di akhir session, ada yg borong? --- On Fri, 8/21/09, frombuitenzorg frombuitenz...@... wrote: + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:obrolan-bandar-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: obrolan-bandar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[ob] Selamat Menunaikan Ibadah Puasa
Sebagai junior di milis ini, saya mengucapkan : SELAMAT MENUNAIKAN IBADAH PUASA kepada para senior rekan2 sekalian. Semoga anda sekalian diberikan kekuatan kesabaran dalam menjalani ibadah ini sampai dengan selesai. Dan semoga rasa kebersamaan, kekeluargaan saling menghargai di milis ini dapat juga kita wujudkan di lingkungan kehidupan kita masing2. Regards,... DvD™ In Te Domine, Speravi Non Confundar In Aeternum
Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation
Ya nih pak DE, malah naik dengan volume kecil, kertas enteng sih..minyak cair, jadi dipompa naik..klo mobil pake hidrolik.. malah tempat kita nabung yang bonus manolo blahnik warna ijo naiknya cuma dikit...padahal pemiliknya lagi BU.. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@... wrote: Di Indonesia sering terjadi anomali... untuk barang dengan fungsi yang sama (spt HP), orang lebih milih hp yang lebih mahal, katakanlah branded, dibanding hp china. Kita masih menganut paham ada harga, ada rupa, alias harga menentukan kualitas (ada benernya juga sih) Bbrp bulan lalu, ada sale sendal CROC yang mahal itu, dan antriannya naujubilah penuh sesek, yang kalo dilihat sebenernya engga worth it punya sendal teplek seharga 300rb, sementara di carefour sendal serupa bisa diperoleh dgn harga 25rb. Hal serupa juga terjadi pada booming blackberry, padahal cuma buat chatting gak jelas, sama upload facebook (yang juga engga jelas). Hebat yah kita, di sektor riil engga ada tuh krisis. Krisis cuma ada di bursa saham sama di OB doang. hehehe.. Bener kata EL, deflasi menguntungkan konsumen spt kita, wong harga turun tapi gaji sama bonus tetep, malah naek... heheh Tapi menjelang bulan puasa+lebaran, belum pernah tuh harga turun, malah pada naik nih.. apalagi minyak goreng.. minyak goreng.. minyak goreng.. minyak goreng.. kertas.. kertas.. kertas.. kertas.. mobil.. mobil.. mobil.. mobil... Regards, DE 2009/8/21 Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@...: saya kurang ngerti Makro sih. tapi yg jelas kalo ga salah ambil kesimpulan. Kondisinya kalo kaya sekarang kan pemulihan Ekonomi Amerika belun keliatan nyata. sementara upaya banjirin likuiditas dari mereka juga udah optimum (lebih dari ini level defisit mereka udah terlalu parah). yang berarti peran konsumsi dunia sekarang udah susah tetep dipegang Amerika lagi., nah siapa yg mo mikul beban ambil alih konsumsi dunia supaya pemulihan ekonomi dunia bisa berlangsung tidak terlalu lama. cina sendiri keliatannya rada hesitant juga jadi 1 1nya pengambil alih konsumsi dunia sekarang ini. yg jadi masalah adalah kalo pemulihan ekonomi baru terjadi rada lama dari sekarang (kurva pemulihannya akan berbentuk L bukan V) maka penyakit2 yg sekarang udah agak tertahan semacem klaim CDS, tagihan seret, pinjeman bermasalah bisa muncul lagi ke permukaan dan bikin semuanya jadi kurang cihuy lah buat pasar keuangan. good thing nya sih US paling tidak sampe semester depan masih harus terus jaga suku bunganya di level rendah. ini akan menguntungkan buat negara2 yg secara natural tidak terlalu bergantung pada ekspor untuk menggerakkan ekonominya (Indonesia salah satunya) BTW bicara sedikit tentang deflasi china yg diekspor ke seluruh dunia. asli saya kaget kemaren liat HP China ternyata murah2 amat ya dengan fitur2 yg lumayan. itu costnya berapa bisa ampe lepas barang di harga segitu.. gile On 8/21/09, Ferry ferry.wachj...@... wrote: Kang Ocoy, Jadi hanya itu dampaknya? Rgds, From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bagus Putra Perdana Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 2:48 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation hehe. China CPI turun terus.. diEksporlah Deflasinya kesini.. barang yg udah murah dilempar lebih murah lagi. since Indonesia Rakyatnya pada doyan belanja.. kebetulan domestic liquiditynya juga lumayan..disikatlah itu barang2 turunan deflasi. so every Indonesian will lend their shoulders helping distant brother china taking care of world's economic recovery ya. jadi? marilah kita belanja gitu maksudnya?! No Specific Stocks Recommendation? please share a bit here kind lady... Afterall we here Indonesian should be shopping rite?! On 8/21/09, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote: The media is starting to use the word 'deflation' everywhere. Be careful. I predict these words are the hot topics for 2H09 - 1H10: deflation: this is the root of all evil. Oversupply, low demand, tight credit. unemployment: productions halted, less purchasing power. debt bubble / USD crash: the end of western domination, and the destruction of capitalism. H1N1: deadly decoy. US - China trade war: it is happening. But it would be unfair if I just mention the potential bad news. I also have these: Domestic driven demand: toll roads, micro finance, infrastructure, public transportation Deflation is a good things for consumers, I know Indonesian are all shopping freaks! lolz I reduce the risk for NK crisis and election issue as they shows better than expected result. Worst case scenario, the US will disintegrate like the soviet union. If this happens, BUY! I dunno when or how much this will affect the financial market. Give me some prediction.. Fundamentally
Re: [ob] CPRO...
FREN, MACD death cross, Stochastic masih down, volume saat koreksi dibawah rata2, support terdekat di 63, secara trend masih ada chance ke 59 dulu. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, yanpha...@... wrote: Bil tlg liatin fren donk.. Thx yah Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: billy_budiman92 billybudima...@... Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:45:41 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] CPRO... Good, stochastic udah cross up, descending kemungkinan bisa batal nih. Target 100 dulu, tapi hati2 kalau 90 di-break lagi. GBU --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, DR dadiresmawan02@ wrote: CPRO, mulai lagi.,.. jangan-jangan di akhir session, ada yg borong? --- On Fri, 8/21/09, frombuitenzorg frombuitenzorg@ wrote: + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation
wah, signal nih... minyak goreng, kertas, mobil cek chart dah... :-D MD On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.comwrote: Di Indonesia sering terjadi anomali... untuk barang dengan fungsi yang sama (spt HP), orang lebih milih hp yang lebih mahal, katakanlah branded, dibanding hp china. Kita masih menganut paham ada harga, ada rupa, alias harga menentukan kualitas (ada benernya juga sih) Bbrp bulan lalu, ada sale sendal CROC yang mahal itu, dan antriannya naujubilah penuh sesek, yang kalo dilihat sebenernya engga worth it punya sendal teplek seharga 300rb, sementara di carefour sendal serupa bisa diperoleh dgn harga 25rb. Hal serupa juga terjadi pada booming blackberry, padahal cuma buat chatting gak jelas, sama upload facebook (yang juga engga jelas). Hebat yah kita, di sektor riil engga ada tuh krisis. Krisis cuma ada di bursa saham sama di OB doang. hehehe.. Bener kata EL, deflasi menguntungkan konsumen spt kita, wong harga turun tapi gaji sama bonus tetep, malah naek... heheh Tapi menjelang bulan puasa+lebaran, belum pernah tuh harga turun, malah pada naik nih.. apalagi minyak goreng.. minyak goreng.. minyak goreng.. minyak goreng.. kertas.. kertas.. kertas.. kertas.. mobil.. mobil.. mobil.. mobil... Regards, DE 2009/8/21 Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com: saya kurang ngerti Makro sih. tapi yg jelas kalo ga salah ambil kesimpulan. Kondisinya kalo kaya sekarang kan pemulihan Ekonomi Amerika belun keliatan nyata. sementara upaya banjirin likuiditas dari mereka juga udah optimum (lebih dari ini level defisit mereka udah terlalu parah). yang berarti peran konsumsi dunia sekarang udah susah tetep dipegang Amerika lagi., nah siapa yg mo mikul beban ambil alih konsumsi dunia supaya pemulihan ekonomi dunia bisa berlangsung tidak terlalu lama. cina sendiri keliatannya rada hesitant juga jadi 1 1nya pengambil alih konsumsi dunia sekarang ini. yg jadi masalah adalah kalo pemulihan ekonomi baru terjadi rada lama dari sekarang (kurva pemulihannya akan berbentuk L bukan V) maka penyakit2 yg sekarang udah agak tertahan semacem klaim CDS, tagihan seret, pinjeman bermasalah bisa muncul lagi ke permukaan dan bikin semuanya jadi kurang cihuy lah buat pasar keuangan. good thing nya sih US paling tidak sampe semester depan masih harus terus jaga suku bunganya di level rendah. ini akan menguntungkan buat negara2 yg secara natural tidak terlalu bergantung pada ekspor untuk menggerakkan ekonominya (Indonesia salah satunya) BTW bicara sedikit tentang deflasi china yg diekspor ke seluruh dunia. asli saya kaget kemaren liat HP China ternyata murah2 amat ya dengan fitur2 yg lumayan. itu costnya berapa bisa ampe lepas barang di harga segitu.. gile On 8/21/09, Ferry ferry.wachj...@gmail.com wrote: Kang Ocoy, Jadi hanya itu dampaknya? Rgds, From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bagus Putra Perdana Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 2:48 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation hehe. China CPI turun terus.. diEksporlah Deflasinya kesini.. barang yg udah murah dilempar lebih murah lagi. since Indonesia Rakyatnya pada doyan belanja.. kebetulan domestic liquiditynya juga lumayan..disikatlah itu barang2 turunan deflasi. so every Indonesian will lend their shoulders helping distant brother china taking care of world's economic recovery ya. jadi? marilah kita belanja gitu maksudnya?! No Specific Stocks Recommendation? please share a bit here kind lady... Afterall we here Indonesian should be shopping rite?! On 8/21/09, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote: The media is starting to use the word 'deflation' everywhere. Be careful. I predict these words are the hot topics for 2H09 - 1H10: deflation: this is the root of all evil. Oversupply, low demand, tight credit. unemployment: productions halted, less purchasing power. debt bubble / USD crash: the end of western domination, and the destruction of capitalism. H1N1: deadly decoy. US - China trade war: it is happening. But it would be unfair if I just mention the potential bad news. I also have these: Domestic driven demand: toll roads, micro finance, infrastructure, public transportation Deflation is a good things for consumers, I know Indonesian are all shopping freaks! lolz I reduce the risk for NK crisis and election issue as they shows better than expected result. Worst case scenario, the US will disintegrate like the soviet union. If this happens, BUY! I dunno when or how much this will affect the financial market. Give me some prediction.. Fundamentally Indonesia is better than the rest, but this is not the case. The world market is driven by sentiments, greed and fear, and its ripple
[ob] Software utk info saham di BB (product Ciptadana)
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RE: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation
Bener bosss..., liat aja saham kalo lagi murah kagak ada yg mau beli, giliran mahal dikejar-kejar, hahaha Liat juga di kota, yg import lebih mahal, laku lagi.., padahal bule aje nyarinya yg local..., hahaha -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 16:53 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation Di Indonesia sering terjadi anomali... untuk barang dengan fungsi yang sama (spt HP), orang lebih milih hp yang lebih mahal, katakanlah branded, dibanding hp china. Kita masih menganut paham ada harga, ada rupa, alias harga menentukan kualitas (ada benernya juga sih) Bbrp bulan lalu, ada sale sendal CROC yang mahal itu, dan antriannya naujubilah penuh sesek, yang kalo dilihat sebenernya engga worth it punya sendal teplek seharga 300rb, sementara di carefour sendal serupa bisa diperoleh dgn harga 25rb. Hal serupa juga terjadi pada booming blackberry, padahal cuma buat chatting gak jelas, sama upload facebook (yang juga engga jelas). Hebat yah kita, di sektor riil engga ada tuh krisis. Krisis cuma ada di bursa saham sama di OB doang. hehehe.. Bener kata EL, deflasi menguntungkan konsumen spt kita, wong harga turun tapi gaji sama bonus tetep, malah naek... heheh Tapi menjelang bulan puasa+lebaran, belum pernah tuh harga turun, malah pada naik nih.. apalagi minyak goreng.. minyak goreng.. minyak goreng.. minyak goreng.. kertas.. kertas.. kertas.. kertas.. mobil.. mobil.. mobil.. mobil... Regards, DE 2009/8/21 Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com: saya kurang ngerti Makro sih. tapi yg jelas kalo ga salah ambil kesimpulan. Kondisinya kalo kaya sekarang kan pemulihan Ekonomi Amerika belun keliatan nyata. sementara upaya banjirin likuiditas dari mereka juga udah optimum (lebih dari ini level defisit mereka udah terlalu parah). yang berarti peran konsumsi dunia sekarang udah susah tetep dipegang Amerika lagi., nah siapa yg mo mikul beban ambil alih konsumsi dunia supaya pemulihan ekonomi dunia bisa berlangsung tidak terlalu lama. cina sendiri keliatannya rada hesitant juga jadi 1 1nya pengambil alih konsumsi dunia sekarang ini. yg jadi masalah adalah kalo pemulihan ekonomi baru terjadi rada lama dari sekarang (kurva pemulihannya akan berbentuk L bukan V) maka penyakit2 yg sekarang udah agak tertahan semacem klaim CDS, tagihan seret, pinjeman bermasalah bisa muncul lagi ke permukaan dan bikin semuanya jadi kurang cihuy lah buat pasar keuangan. good thing nya sih US paling tidak sampe semester depan masih harus terus jaga suku bunganya di level rendah. ini akan menguntungkan buat negara2 yg secara natural tidak terlalu bergantung pada ekspor untuk menggerakkan ekonominya (Indonesia salah satunya) BTW bicara sedikit tentang deflasi china yg diekspor ke seluruh dunia. asli saya kaget kemaren liat HP China ternyata murah2 amat ya dengan fitur2 yg lumayan. itu costnya berapa bisa ampe lepas barang di harga segitu.. gile On 8/21/09, Ferry ferry.wachj...@gmail.com wrote: Kang Ocoy, Jadi hanya itu dampaknya? Rgds, From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bagus Putra Perdana Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 2:48 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation hehe. China CPI turun terus.. diEksporlah Deflasinya kesini.. barang yg udah murah dilempar lebih murah lagi. since Indonesia Rakyatnya pada doyan belanja.. kebetulan domestic liquiditynya juga lumayan..disikatlah itu barang2 turunan deflasi. so every Indonesian will lend their shoulders helping distant brother china taking care of world's economic recovery ya. jadi? marilah kita belanja gitu maksudnya?! No Specific Stocks Recommendation? please share a bit here kind lady... Afterall we here Indonesian should be shopping rite?! On 8/21/09, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote: The media is starting to use the word 'deflation' everywhere. Be careful. I predict these words are the hot topics for 2H09 - 1H10: deflation: this is the root of all evil. Oversupply, low demand, tight credit. unemployment: productions halted, less purchasing power. debt bubble / USD crash: the end of western domination, and the destruction of capitalism. H1N1: deadly decoy. US - China trade war: it is happening. But it would be unfair if I just mention the potential bad news. I also have these: Domestic driven demand: toll roads, micro finance, infrastructure, public transportation Deflation is a good things for consumers, I know Indonesian are all shopping freaks! lolz I reduce the risk for NK crisis and election issue as they shows better than expected result. Worst case scenario, the US will disintegrate like the soviet union. If this happens, BUY! I dunno when or how much this will affect the financial
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Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation
Kalo import ada perasaan WAH makenya, apalagi kalo dilihat orang juga lebih PD, gaya hidup. Sama saja diluaran pada pake blekiberi, saya msh pake SAMSUNG R220 Hahahah Sama juga dgn beli saham model CNKO, KARK di hina, kalo beli AALI ASII lebih wah heheheh On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:10 PM, JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote: Bener bosss..., liat aja saham kalo lagi murah kagak ada yg mau beli, giliran mahal dikejar-kejar, hahaha Liat juga di kota, yg import lebih mahal, laku lagi.., padahal bule aje nyarinya yg local..., hahaha -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com[mailto: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 16:53 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation Di Indonesia sering terjadi anomali... untuk barang dengan fungsi yang sama (spt HP), orang lebih milih hp yang lebih mahal, katakanlah branded, dibanding hp china. Kita masih menganut paham ada harga, ada rupa, alias harga menentukan kualitas (ada benernya juga sih) Bbrp bulan lalu, ada sale sendal CROC yang mahal itu, dan antriannya naujubilah penuh sesek, yang kalo dilihat sebenernya engga worth it punya sendal teplek seharga 300rb, sementara di carefour sendal serupa bisa diperoleh dgn harga 25rb. Hal serupa juga terjadi pada booming blackberry, padahal cuma buat chatting gak jelas, sama upload facebook (yang juga engga jelas). Hebat yah kita, di sektor riil engga ada tuh krisis. Krisis cuma ada di bursa saham sama di OB doang. hehehe.. Bener kata EL, deflasi menguntungkan konsumen spt kita, wong harga turun tapi gaji sama bonus tetep, malah naek... heheh Tapi menjelang bulan puasa+lebaran, belum pernah tuh harga turun, malah pada naik nih.. apalagi minyak goreng.. minyak goreng.. minyak goreng.. minyak goreng.. kertas.. kertas.. kertas.. kertas.. mobil.. mobil.. mobil.. mobil... Regards, DE 2009/8/21 Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.comdisclosure.inc%40gmail.com : saya kurang ngerti Makro sih. tapi yg jelas kalo ga salah ambil kesimpulan. Kondisinya kalo kaya sekarang kan pemulihan Ekonomi Amerika belun keliatan nyata. sementara upaya banjirin likuiditas dari mereka juga udah optimum (lebih dari ini level defisit mereka udah terlalu parah). yang berarti peran konsumsi dunia sekarang udah susah tetep dipegang Amerika lagi., nah siapa yg mo mikul beban ambil alih konsumsi dunia supaya pemulihan ekonomi dunia bisa berlangsung tidak terlalu lama. cina sendiri keliatannya rada hesitant juga jadi 1 1nya pengambil alih konsumsi dunia sekarang ini. yg jadi masalah adalah kalo pemulihan ekonomi baru terjadi rada lama dari sekarang (kurva pemulihannya akan berbentuk L bukan V) maka penyakit2 yg sekarang udah agak tertahan semacem klaim CDS, tagihan seret, pinjeman bermasalah bisa muncul lagi ke permukaan dan bikin semuanya jadi kurang cihuy lah buat pasar keuangan. good thing nya sih US paling tidak sampe semester depan masih harus terus jaga suku bunganya di level rendah. ini akan menguntungkan buat negara2 yg secara natural tidak terlalu bergantung pada ekspor untuk menggerakkan ekonominya (Indonesia salah satunya) BTW bicara sedikit tentang deflasi china yg diekspor ke seluruh dunia. asli saya kaget kemaren liat HP China ternyata murah2 amat ya dengan fitur2 yg lumayan. itu costnya berapa bisa ampe lepas barang di harga segitu.. gile On 8/21/09, Ferry ferry.wachj...@gmail.com ferry.wachjudi%40gmail.com wrote: Kang Ocoy, Jadi hanya itu dampaknya? Rgds, From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bagus Putra Perdana Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 2:48 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation hehe. China CPI turun terus.. diEksporlah Deflasinya kesini.. barang yg udah murah dilempar lebih murah lagi. since Indonesia Rakyatnya pada doyan belanja.. kebetulan domestic liquiditynya juga lumayan..disikatlah itu barang2 turunan deflasi. so every Indonesian will lend their shoulders helping distant brother china taking care of world's economic recovery ya. jadi? marilah kita belanja gitu maksudnya?! No Specific Stocks Recommendation? please share a bit here kind lady... Afterall we here Indonesian should be shopping rite?! On 8/21/09, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com elainesui83%40gmail.com wrote: The media is starting to use the word 'deflation' everywhere. Be careful. I predict these words are the hot topics for 2H09 - 1H10: deflation: this is the root of all evil. Oversupply, low demand, tight credit.
[ob] BUMI Tawar 15,8% Saham Herald AUD 0,7 per Saham
Jakarta - PT Bumi Resources Tbk (BUMI) melalui anak usahanya Calipso Investment Pte Ltd sedang melakukan penawaran terbuka atas 15,8% saham Herald Resources Ltd di harga AUD 0,7 per saham. Saat ini, Calipso memiliki 84,2% saham Herald. Kami sedang membuka penawaran atas 15,8% saham Herald, ujar Direktur Utama BUMI, Ari Saptari Hudaya saat dihubungi detikFinance, Jumat (21/8/2009). Ari mengatakan, penawaran dilakukan melalui Calipso, anak usahanya yang sudah memiliki 84,2% saham Herald. Pada tahun 2008, Calipso memenangkan pertarungan panas dengan Tango Mining, anak usaha duet PT Aneka Tambang Tbk (ANTM) dengan Shenzen Zhongjin Lingnan Nonfernet asal China. Kini, Calipso kembali melakukan penawaran atas sisa saham publik Herald agar dapat menguasai 100% saham perusahaan tambang Zinc (seng) dan Lead (timbal/timah hitam) di Australia. Harga yang ditawarkan sebesar 70 cent dolar Australia (AUD 0,7) per saham. Total nilainya jika sisa 15,8% itu dilepas sekitar AUD 10-15 juta. Semuanya dari kas internal, ujar Ari. Penawaran dibuka dalam waktu kurang lebih satu bulan ke depan. Pada saat memenangkan pertarungan dengan Tango, Calipso membeli 84,2% saham Herald di harga AUD 2,85 per saham. Ketika krisis pasar modal dunia, harga saham Herald di Australia Stock Exchange (ASX) ikut jatuh tajam. Harga penutupan Herald di ASX ditutup di level AUD 0,4 per saham. Harga yang ditawarkan Calipso premium sekitar 75% dari harga penutupan hari ini.
Re: [ob] Link Cantik Buat BB
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Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation
Ngemeng2 minyak udah 73.57 dollar. Salam, Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:10:26 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation Bener bosss..., liat aja saham kalo lagi murah kagak ada yg mau beli, giliran mahal dikejar-kejar, hahaha Liat juga di kota, yg import lebih mahal, laku lagi.., padahal bule aje nyarinya yg local..., hahaha -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker Sent: 21 Agustus 2009 16:53 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation Di Indonesia sering terjadi anomali... untuk barang dengan fungsi yang sama (spt HP), orang lebih milih hp yang lebih mahal, katakanlah branded, dibanding hp china. Kita masih menganut paham ada harga, ada rupa, alias harga menentukan kualitas (ada benernya juga sih) Bbrp bulan lalu, ada sale sendal CROC yang mahal itu, dan antriannya naujubilah penuh sesek, yang kalo dilihat sebenernya engga worth it punya sendal teplek seharga 300rb, sementara di carefour sendal serupa bisa diperoleh dgn harga 25rb. Hal serupa juga terjadi pada booming blackberry, padahal cuma buat chatting gak jelas, sama upload facebook (yang juga engga jelas). Hebat yah kita, di sektor riil engga ada tuh krisis. Krisis cuma ada di bursa saham sama di OB doang. hehehe.. Bener kata EL, deflasi menguntungkan konsumen spt kita, wong harga turun tapi gaji sama bonus tetep, malah naek... heheh Tapi menjelang bulan puasa+lebaran, belum pernah tuh harga turun, malah pada naik nih.. apalagi minyak goreng.. minyak goreng.. minyak goreng.. minyak goreng.. kertas.. kertas.. kertas.. kertas.. mobil.. mobil.. mobil.. mobil... Regards, DE 2009/8/21 Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com: saya kurang ngerti Makro sih. tapi yg jelas kalo ga salah ambil kesimpulan. Kondisinya kalo kaya sekarang kan pemulihan Ekonomi Amerika belun keliatan nyata. sementara upaya banjirin likuiditas dari mereka juga udah optimum (lebih dari ini level defisit mereka udah terlalu parah). yang berarti peran konsumsi dunia sekarang udah susah tetep dipegang Amerika lagi., nah siapa yg mo mikul beban ambil alih konsumsi dunia supaya pemulihan ekonomi dunia bisa berlangsung tidak terlalu lama. cina sendiri keliatannya rada hesitant juga jadi 1 1nya pengambil alih konsumsi dunia sekarang ini. yg jadi masalah adalah kalo pemulihan ekonomi baru terjadi rada lama dari sekarang (kurva pemulihannya akan berbentuk L bukan V) maka penyakit2 yg sekarang udah agak tertahan semacem klaim CDS, tagihan seret, pinjeman bermasalah bisa muncul lagi ke permukaan dan bikin semuanya jadi kurang cihuy lah buat pasar keuangan. good thing nya sih US paling tidak sampe semester depan masih harus terus jaga suku bunganya di level rendah. ini akan menguntungkan buat negara2 yg secara natural tidak terlalu bergantung pada ekspor untuk menggerakkan ekonominya (Indonesia salah satunya) BTW bicara sedikit tentang deflasi china yg diekspor ke seluruh dunia. asli saya kaget kemaren liat HP China ternyata murah2 amat ya dengan fitur2 yg lumayan. itu costnya berapa bisa ampe lepas barang di harga segitu.. gile On 8/21/09, Ferry ferry.wachj...@gmail.com wrote: Kang Ocoy, Jadi hanya itu dampaknya? Rgds, From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bagus Putra Perdana Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 2:48 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation hehe. China CPI turun terus.. diEksporlah Deflasinya kesini.. barang yg udah murah dilempar lebih murah lagi. since Indonesia Rakyatnya pada doyan belanja.. kebetulan domestic liquiditynya juga lumayan..disikatlah itu barang2 turunan deflasi. so every Indonesian will lend their shoulders helping distant brother china taking care of world's economic recovery ya. jadi? marilah kita belanja gitu maksudnya?! No Specific Stocks Recommendation? please share a bit here kind lady... Afterall we here Indonesian should be shopping rite?! On 8/21/09, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote: The media is starting to use the word 'deflation' everywhere. Be careful. I predict these words are the hot topics for 2H09 - 1H10: deflation: this is the root of all evil. Oversupply, low demand, tight credit. unemployment: productions halted, less purchasing power. debt bubble / USD crash: the end of western domination, and the destruction of capitalism. H1N1: deadly decoy. US - China trade war: it is happening. But it would be unfair if I just mention the potential bad news. I also have these: Domestic driven demand: toll roads, micro finance, infrastructure, public transportation Deflation is a good things for consumers, I know Indonesian
Re: [ob] MOHON MAAF LAHIR BATIN
Istilah copetnya diganti dengan coleg (copet legal), coleg dikit ah... Hehehe Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: kokol...@yahoo.co.id Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:29:35 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] MOHON MAAF LAHIR BATIN Kalo lagi puasa ga boleh nyopet lho prof...ntar puasanya ga afdhol..he..he Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Bakrie Group -Original Message- From: JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:15:27 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com; metastock...@yahoogroups.com; analisasa...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] MOHON MAAF LAHIR BATIN All, Pastinya ane sering menyinggung perasaan temen-temen, baik sengaja maupun tidak sengaja, jadi untuk itu sungguh ane minta maap nih., dan mohon do'anya supaya ane dikasi kekuatan lahir batin untuk menjalankan ibadah puasa sampe pol. amin. Trus, kalau ada yang nyangkut gara-gara ane, ane juga mohon maap., sumpe kalo itu kecelakaan, ane kagak sengaja'in., hehehe Selamat Menjalankan Ibadah Puasa bagi temen2 yg menjalankannya. Very Best Regards, JT
Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation
Huahahahaha...gile semua clue dicek pake chart! On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Marcello Djunaidy mdjuna...@gmail.comwrote: wah, signal nih... minyak goreng, kertas, mobil cek chart dah... :-D MD On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.comwrote: Di Indonesia sering terjadi anomali... untuk barang dengan fungsi yang sama (spt HP), orang lebih milih hp yang lebih mahal, katakanlah branded, dibanding hp china. Kita masih menganut paham ada harga, ada rupa, alias harga menentukan kualitas (ada benernya juga sih) Bbrp bulan lalu, ada sale sendal CROC yang mahal itu, dan antriannya naujubilah penuh sesek, yang kalo dilihat sebenernya engga worth it punya sendal teplek seharga 300rb, sementara di carefour sendal serupa bisa diperoleh dgn harga 25rb. Hal serupa juga terjadi pada booming blackberry, padahal cuma buat chatting gak jelas, sama upload facebook (yang juga engga jelas). Hebat yah kita, di sektor riil engga ada tuh krisis. Krisis cuma ada di bursa saham sama di OB doang. hehehe.. Bener kata EL, deflasi menguntungkan konsumen spt kita, wong harga turun tapi gaji sama bonus tetep, malah naek... heheh Tapi menjelang bulan puasa+lebaran, belum pernah tuh harga turun, malah pada naik nih.. apalagi minyak goreng.. minyak goreng.. minyak goreng.. minyak goreng.. kertas.. kertas.. kertas.. kertas.. mobil.. mobil.. mobil.. mobil... Regards, DE 2009/8/21 Bagus Putra Perdana disclosure@gmail.com: saya kurang ngerti Makro sih. tapi yg jelas kalo ga salah ambil kesimpulan. Kondisinya kalo kaya sekarang kan pemulihan Ekonomi Amerika belun keliatan nyata. sementara upaya banjirin likuiditas dari mereka juga udah optimum (lebih dari ini level defisit mereka udah terlalu parah). yang berarti peran konsumsi dunia sekarang udah susah tetep dipegang Amerika lagi., nah siapa yg mo mikul beban ambil alih konsumsi dunia supaya pemulihan ekonomi dunia bisa berlangsung tidak terlalu lama. cina sendiri keliatannya rada hesitant juga jadi 1 1nya pengambil alih konsumsi dunia sekarang ini. yg jadi masalah adalah kalo pemulihan ekonomi baru terjadi rada lama dari sekarang (kurva pemulihannya akan berbentuk L bukan V) maka penyakit2 yg sekarang udah agak tertahan semacem klaim CDS, tagihan seret, pinjeman bermasalah bisa muncul lagi ke permukaan dan bikin semuanya jadi kurang cihuy lah buat pasar keuangan. good thing nya sih US paling tidak sampe semester depan masih harus terus jaga suku bunganya di level rendah. ini akan menguntungkan buat negara2 yg secara natural tidak terlalu bergantung pada ekspor untuk menggerakkan ekonominya (Indonesia salah satunya) BTW bicara sedikit tentang deflasi china yg diekspor ke seluruh dunia. asli saya kaget kemaren liat HP China ternyata murah2 amat ya dengan fitur2 yg lumayan. itu costnya berapa bisa ampe lepas barang di harga segitu.. gile On 8/21/09, Ferry ferry.wachj...@gmail.com wrote: Kang Ocoy, Jadi hanya itu dampaknya? Rgds, From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bagus Putra Perdana Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 2:48 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] China Third-Quarter GDP Seen up 8.5%, No Inflation hehe. China CPI turun terus.. diEksporlah Deflasinya kesini.. barang yg udah murah dilempar lebih murah lagi. since Indonesia Rakyatnya pada doyan belanja.. kebetulan domestic liquiditynya juga lumayan..disikatlah itu barang2 turunan deflasi. so every Indonesian will lend their shoulders helping distant brother china taking care of world's economic recovery ya. jadi? marilah kita belanja gitu maksudnya?! No Specific Stocks Recommendation? please share a bit here kind lady... Afterall we here Indonesian should be shopping rite?! On 8/21/09, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote: The media is starting to use the word 'deflation' everywhere. Be careful. I predict these words are the hot topics for 2H09 - 1H10: deflation: this is the root of all evil. Oversupply, low demand, tight credit. unemployment: productions halted, less purchasing power. debt bubble / USD crash: the end of western domination, and the destruction of capitalism. H1N1: deadly decoy. US - China trade war: it is happening. But it would be unfair if I just mention the potential bad news. I also have these: Domestic driven demand: toll roads, micro finance, infrastructure, public transportation Deflation is a good things for consumers, I know Indonesian are all shopping freaks! lolz I reduce the risk for NK crisis and election issue as they shows better than expected result. Worst case scenario, the US will disintegrate like the soviet union. If this happens, BUY! I dunno when or how much this will affect the financial market. Give me some prediction.. Fundamentally
