RE: How to drop a system event trigger - endless loop?

2001-06-06 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)

You can also set the hidden parameter _system_trig_enabled=FALSE in your
init file.

The use of this parameter is discussed in the documentation (Chapter 7 of
the 817 migration guide) and it disables any system triggers (the new
Oracle8i event triggers) you may have in your database.

Quote is from
http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/ml2_documents.showDocument?p_datab
ase_id=FORp_id=178529.999.

Regards,
Bruce

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you could also do
svrmgrl alter trigger trigger_name disable; 

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 From: Rachel Carmichael[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 11:01 PM
 
 go in through svrmgrl or connect via sqlplus using / as sysdba
 
 this will log you in without executing the trigger and you can then drop
 it
 
 
 From: Andor, Gyula [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 07:20:38 -0800
 
 Hi Gurus !
 
 I created a trigger on logon event. The trigger seems to be falling into
 an
 endless loop, so I can't login. How colud I drop this trigger. I created
 this trigger with ON DATABASE clause.
 
 Thanks in advance
 Gyula
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Re: query using OR operator

2001-06-06 Thread C.S.Venkata Subramanian

Try using the primary key value like if PRD_LVL_CHILD is the primary key then just add 
a where cond using and operator like PRD_LVL_CHILD0. This will make the usage of 
index in the table PRCMSTEE.

May be this is not the actual way, but we have tuned several queries like this and 
they all are working fine and doing well in our applns.
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On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 21:30:26  
 Suhen Pather wrote:
List,

I require help with tuning a query.

SELECT PRC_TYPE FROM PRCMSTEE  
WHERE PRD_LVL_CHILD = 505  
OR PRD_LVL_CHILD IN (SELECT PRD_LVL_PARENT   
FROM PRDMSTEE
WHERE PRD_LVL_CHILD = 505 )
/


Query Plan
--
SELECT STATEMENT[CHOOSE] Cost=84 Rows=5026 Bytes=30156
  FILTER
TABLE ACCESS FULL PRCMSTEE  [ANALYZED]
TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID PRDMSTEE  [ANALYZED]
  INDEX UNIQUE SCAN PRDMSTEEP1  [ANALYZED]

Execution Plan
--
   0  SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=84 Card=5026 Bytes=3
  0156)

   10   FILTER
   21 TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'PRCMSTEE' (Cost=84 Card=5026 Byt
  es=30156)

   31 TABLE ACCESS (BY INDEX ROWID) OF 'PRDMSTEE' (Cost=2 Card
  =1 Bytes=7)

   43   INDEX (UNIQUE SCAN) OF 'PRDMSTEEP1' (UNIQUE) (Cost=1 C
  ard=1)

Statistics
--
  0  recursive calls
  4  db block gets
 237373  consistent gets
  0  physical reads
  0  redo size
541  bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
424  bytes received via SQL*Net from client
  2  SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
  0  sorts (memory)
  0  sorts (disk)
  6  rows processed

I am trying to reduce the logical IO for this query.
The query performs a full table scan on PRCMSTEE, which accounts for the
total cost of the query and high 
LIO.

I have run individual parts of the query and the LIO stays lows except when
the OR operator is used.
I know that the OR operator would supress the use of an index, but I also
tried using a index HINT, to force the use of the index, but
Oracle favours doing a full table scan on PRCMSTEE.
There is an INDEX on PRD_LVL_CHILD of PRCMSTEE.

Is there a way to rewrite the query to reduce the LIO?

Thanks and Regards
Suhen



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Re: SUMMARY: Thanks everyone - tru64

2001-06-06 Thread Jared Still

On Tuesday 05 June 2001 13:15, Koivu, Lisa wrote:
 10.  Benchmarking Solaris E10K/64CPU against Compaq GS-160/16CPU favored
 the Compaq!  WOW

The same can be said for a loaded ( 16 way ) IBM RS6000 S80
running AIX.  *Much* less than an E10k and equivialent processing power.

 2.  Sun is ex-pen-sive!  Compaq wins in this comparison.

Again, the IBM solution is also less money than Sun.

 7.  If it's possible, consider IBM/AIX.  IBM's sales force is highly
 trained in administration so you can talk real system architecture with
 them (not that I'm an admin or architect, I am neither).  IBM's support is
 also top notch.

Yeah, but you still gotta listen pretty closely to the sales pitch.

The *are* sales folks after all.

Intestingly, the DH Brown report put AIX on top of the unix heap
for several year, that is until this year, when Solaris edged it out.

Jared
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job queue process parameters....

2001-06-06 Thread Amar Kumar Padhi

Hi,
Are job_queue_interval and job_queue_process parameters applicable to both
dedicated and parallel server?  any changes regarding this in 8i.
 
 
rgds
amar
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Re: query using OR operator

2001-06-06 Thread Greg Moore

Hi Suhen,

The UNION ALL will return duplicates from the two queries, whereas the
original query will not, right?  So the query is tuned, but it returns a
different result set.

Do you agree?

Best regards,
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RE: limit number of sessions from an OSUSER or a machine?

2001-06-06 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)

Perhaps 2 could be accomplished by a database after login trigger that uses
raise_application_error if the count of sessions from the machine is too
high.

This will depend on what version of Oracle you are on.

Bruce

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On Tuesday 05 June 2001 15:18, Guang Mei wrote:

 1. Is there any way to limit how many sessions from a particular OSUSER?
If
 yes, how?

use CREATE PROFILE, and assign the profile to the user(s).  This is 
per database user, not OS user.


 2. Is there a way to limit how many sessions from a particular machine
 (which uses db link to access out oracle db)? If yes, how?

Sorry, have no idea about this one.

Jared

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Re: Which SQL is executing

2001-06-06 Thread Chuan Zhang



Hi, Sam,

Thanks for your information. 

To my understanding,the script you gave is 
for all the queries. There is still no way to figure out which query is 
running.

Chuan,

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  From: 
  Sam 
  Roberts 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 5:00 PM
  Subject: Re: Which SQL is executing
  
  SELECT T.SQL_TEXT FROM V$SQLTEXT T,V$SESSION S 
  WHERE S.SQL_ADDRESS=T.ADDRESS ORDER BY T.PIECE;
  
  Sam
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Chuan 
Zhang 
To: Multiple 
recipients of list ORACLE-L 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:30 
AM
Subject: Which SQL is executing

Hi All,


From v$open_cursor, I know every SQL 
opened and parsed in one session. Is there any way to know which SQL is 
running. Or put another way, canall the SQLs in one session be sorted 
in timing order dynamically?

Any clue would be much 
appreciated.

Chuan


RE: query using OR operator

2001-06-06 Thread Suhen Pather

Greg,

Correct me if I am wrong but both will return duplicates since the OR
operator is used.

The primary key is on PRD_LVL_CHILD.PRDMSTEE.

Regards
Suhen


Hi Suhen,

The UNION ALL will return duplicates from the two queries, whereas the
original query will not, right?  So the query is tuned, but it returns a
different result set.

Do you agree?

Best regards,
- Greg

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RE: How to remove corrupted blocks from datafile.

2001-06-06 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

This what I did last time it happened to me. (Bear in mind that this was
Oracle 7.3 and so rowid format is different for later releases of Oracle).


In sqlplus select the following from the table with the corruption

SQL SELECT /*+ ROWID(TABLE_NAME) */ DOC_ID, ROWID 
2 FROM TABLE_NAME
3 WHERE ROWID BETWEEN '..' AND '..'; 

This will stop at the corrupted row.
eg. 7085.4234.0009 - this is a hexidecimal representation 

The first 8 digits are the block number (Block no. 28805 in hex is 7085).
The next four are the row and the final four are the file number.
The last record before the corrupted block in this case will be
7084..0009.
The first record of the corrupted block in this case will be
7085..0009.
The first record after the corrupted block in this case will be
7086..0009.

To get these unaffected rows back into the table do the following.
create table table_name_tmp 
as select * from table_name
where 1 = 2;

This will create a temporary table the same as your original. Next backup
the original table structure so you can recreate it. 
exp username/password file=table_name.dmp rows=n tables=TABLE_NAME
then
imp username/passwd file=table_name.dmp indexfile=table_name.sql

Make the necessary amendments to the indexfile (take REM statements and
connect statements out)

Next insert the uncorrupted rows into the temporary table.
SQL INSERT INTO TABLE_NAME_TMP SELECT /*+ ROWID(TABLE_NAME) */ * 
2 FROM TABLE_NAME 
3 WHERE ROWID BETWEEN '..' 
4 AND '7084..0009';

Next insert the rows after the corruption
 SQL INSERT INTO TABLE_NAME_TMP SELECT /*+ ROWID(TABLE_NAME) */ * 
2 FROM TABLE_NAME 
3 WHERE ROWID BETWEEN '7086..0009' 
4 AND '..'; 
Next drop the original table
drop table table_name;
and then run your sql file (indexfile) to create the table and associated
indexes.
@table_name

After this reapply all grants (run the recreate grant script)
and finally insert new rows.

insert into table_name
select * from table_name_tmp;



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RE: Where can I find openworld 2000 white papers?

2001-06-06 Thread Rajesh Dayal

http://www.oracle.com/start/oowsessionsearch/index.html

HTH,
Rajesh
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Hi DBA Gurus,

I am looking for whitepapers and presentations of Oracle
Openworld 2000.
Where can I find them?  Anybody can help me in this regard?

TIA and Regards,

Ranganath


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RE: Which SQL is executing

2001-06-06 Thread Rajesh Dayal



Hi Chuan,

 Still your question is not clear to 
me. But I am 
sending you some scripts, may be these would help 
you:

This gives SQL-TEXT, Oracle-User-name, 
machine-name
and program-name for the user executing the 
SQLs.

set pagesize 50
set head on
set linesize 70

select sa.sql_text,s.username,s.machine,s.programfrom v$sqlarea 
sa,v$session swhere s.sql_address=sa.addressand 
s.sql_hash_value=sa.hash_valueorder by sa.buffer_gets 
desc/

This will give all SQLs currently 
executingincluding
this one.

SELECT u.sid, SUBSTR(u.username,1,12) user_name, 
s.sql_textFROM v$sql s, v$session uWHERE s.hash_value = 
u.sql_hash_valueORDER BY user_name/
HTH,
Rajesh

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuan ZhangSent: 
  Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:25 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: Re: Which SQL is executing
  Hi, Sam,
  
  Thanks for your information. 
  
  To my understanding,the script you gave is 
  for all the queries. There is still no way to figure out which query is 
  running.
  
  Chuan,
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Sam 
Roberts 
To: Multiple 
recipients of list ORACLE-L 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 5:00 
PM
Subject: Re: Which SQL is 
executing

SELECT T.SQL_TEXT FROM V$SQLTEXT T,V$SESSION S 
WHERE S.SQL_ADDRESS=T.ADDRESS ORDER BY T.PIECE;

Sam

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Chuan 
  Zhang 
  To: Multiple 
  recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:30 
  AM
  Subject: Which SQL is executing
  
  Hi All,
  
  
  From v$open_cursor, I know every SQL 
  opened and parsed in one session. Is there any way to know which SQL is 
  running. Or put another way, canall the SQLs in one session be 
  sorted in timing order dynamically?
  
  Any clue would be much 
  appreciated.
  
  Chuan


RE: Which SQL is executing

2001-06-06 Thread Mark Leith



Try 
this out my friend:

select 
s.sid sid, 
 c.sql_text 
sql_text, 
 c.address address, 

 
ltrim(to_char(c.hash_value,'99'),' ') hash_value, 
 substrb(' 
',1,2) execcur  from v$open_cursor c, 
v$session 
s where c.saddr = s.saddr 
 and c.hash_value != s.sql_hash_value 
 and s.sid in 
(THE_SID_U_ARE_INTERESTED_IN)unionselect s.sid sid, 

 c.sql_text 
sql_text, 
 c.address 
address, ltrim(to_char(c.hash_value,'99'),' ') hash_value, 

 substrb('* 
',1,2) execcur  from v$open_cursor c, v$session s 
where c.saddr = s.saddr 
 and c.hash_value = s.sql_hash_value 
 and s.sid in 
(THE_SID_U_ARE_INTERESTED_IN);

The 
currently executing cursor will be the one with* in the execcur 
column.

HTH

Mark

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuan ZhangSent: 
  Wednesday, June 06, 2001 08:25To: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: Re: Which SQL is executing
  Hi, Sam,
  
  Thanks for your information. 
  
  To my understanding,the script you gave is 
  for all the queries. There is still no way to figure out which query is 
  running.
  
  Chuan,
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Sam 
Roberts 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 

Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 5:00 
PM
Subject: Re: Which SQL is 
executing

SELECT T.SQL_TEXT FROM V$SQLTEXT T,V$SESSION S 
WHERE S.SQL_ADDRESS=T.ADDRESS ORDER BY T.PIECE;

Sam

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Chuan 
  Zhang 
  To: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:30 
  AM
  Subject: Which SQL is executing
  
  Hi All,
  
  
  From v$open_cursor, I know every SQL 
  opened and parsed in one session. Is there any way to know which SQL is 
  running. Or put another way, canall the SQLs in one session be 
  sorted in timing order dynamically?
  
  Any clue would be much 
  appreciated.
  
  Chuan


Creating and Oracle 7 DB from an Oracle 8 DB

2001-06-06 Thread Tim Allen




Hi,

Its a long and 
boring story but I have an Oracle8 database andI need to create 
anOracle 7 database from it to support one of our applications. The schema 
of the Oracle 8 db does not have any oo features and is, in theory, it 
functionally compatable with an Oracle 7 db. But I understand that there are 
issues with using export from oracle 8 and import to oracle 7, I.e it is 
incompatable. 

Has anyone had any 
experience in doing this or any suggestions on ways of doing 
it?

And by the way 
the data in tables needs to be copied from 8 to 7 also.

Cheers

Tim AllenDesignerRamesys (Professional Services) Ltd(  
Phone: 01788 822133 .  Fax : 01788 822144 + Address : Eldon Way, Motorway Ind. Estate, Crick, Northants, NN6 
7SL *  E-mail : [mailto:tim.allen@ramesys.com] 
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Re: OT-Passing variables to a awk/sed script

2001-06-06 Thread sfaroult

Hello List,

This must be piece of cake for the UNIX gurus.

Trying to pass parameters to a  simple awk script. Getting stuck.=20
First q., can we do that.=20
If yes I need to solve the foll. problem,

In a huge text file locate for  abc/xyz and replace it with a supplied =
parameter value. This paramter must of course, be able to take on any =
value during the run of the program.
 Any help or tips on that would be highy appreciated.

Thanks

Satish


Satish,

   It depends on the system you are on. The old original awk does not allow parameters 
to be passed to it, but the newest can take
   -v parameter_name=value
On many systems, the new awk is called 'nawk', but not everywhere.
   Try 'man awk/man nawk' on your system and check which one takes the -v flag.

HTH

Stephane Faroult
Oriole Corporation

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Trouble.. Standby Database. Urgent!!

2001-06-06 Thread Saurabh Sharma



hi all,

I need ur help urgently. i've 
created a standby database with the below mentioned steps..

1. copied consistent backup of 
datafiles folder to standby site.
2. created standby control file and 
sent to target location.
3. switch logfile current and 
copied to target.
4. copied init.ora and changed 
parameters for standby.

at the standby site.
1. startup 
nomount   

ok
2. alter database mount standby 
database. ok
3. recover standby 
database
 ... this last recovery 
statement is giving lot of msgs like..log applied..
 then same 
logfile not needed for this recovery.
 can not open 
file..etc.

I'm copying the archived log from 
primary to standby standby_archive_dest location.
here are the actual errors..

SVRMGR recover standby 
database;ORA-00279: change 708915 generated at 06/06/01 12:19:56 needed for 
thread 1ORA-00289: suggestion : 
D:\ORACLE\ORA81\DATABASE\ARCHIVE\ARC00505.001ORA-00280: change 708915 for 
thread 1 is in sequence #505Specify log: {RET=suggested | 
filename | AUTO | CANCEL}autoORA-00308: cannot open archived log 
'D:\ORACLE\ORA81\DATABASE\ARCHIVE\ARC00505.001ORA-27041: unable to open 
fileOSD-04002: unable to open fileO/S-Error: (OS 2) The system cannot 
find the file specified.


has anybody any idea of what's 
causing this problem. what i feel is there i may have wrongly configured the 
standby_archive_dest in init.ora at standby.

any help is greatly 
appreciated.

thanks.

saurabh sharma



RE: How to remove corrupted blocks from datafile.

2001-06-06 Thread Rajesh Dayal

Just for the sake curiosity

I think we should try to salvage the records which are stored
after the corrupted blocks. Following SQL may be helpful for
this purpose:

SQL SELECT /*+ ROWID(TABLE_NAME) */ DOC_ID, ROWID 
2 FROM TABLE_NAME
3 WHERE substr(ROWID,1,8)  '7085'  and 
4 substr(ROWID,15,4) = '0009' 


This could happen that only one Data block is corrupted and rest 
all next to that are fine. Of course we need to find out this by
hit and trial method.

Please correct me if I am wrong

Rajesh

-Original Message-
Lee - lerobe
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This what I did last time it happened to me. (Bear in mind that this was
Oracle 7.3 and so rowid format is different for later releases of
Oracle).


In sqlplus select the following from the table with the corruption

SQL SELECT /*+ ROWID(TABLE_NAME) */ DOC_ID, ROWID 
2 FROM TABLE_NAME
3 WHERE ROWID BETWEEN '..' AND '..'; 

This will stop at the corrupted row.
eg. 7085.4234.0009 - this is a hexidecimal representation 

The first 8 digits are the block number (Block no. 28805 in hex is
7085).
The next four are the row and the final four are the file number.
The last record before the corrupted block in this case will be
7084..0009.
The first record of the corrupted block in this case will be
7085..0009.
The first record after the corrupted block in this case will be
7086..0009.

To get these unaffected rows back into the table do the following.
create table table_name_tmp 
as select * from table_name
where 1 = 2;

This will create a temporary table the same as your original. Next
backup
the original table structure so you can recreate it. 
exp username/password file=table_name.dmp rows=n tables=TABLE_NAME
then
imp username/passwd file=table_name.dmp indexfile=table_name.sql

Make the necessary amendments to the indexfile (take REM statements and
connect statements out)

Next insert the uncorrupted rows into the temporary table.
SQL INSERT INTO TABLE_NAME_TMP SELECT /*+ ROWID(TABLE_NAME) */ * 
2 FROM TABLE_NAME 
3 WHERE ROWID BETWEEN '..' 
4 AND '7084..0009';

Next insert the rows after the corruption
 SQL INSERT INTO TABLE_NAME_TMP SELECT /*+ ROWID(TABLE_NAME) */ * 
2 FROM TABLE_NAME 
3 WHERE ROWID BETWEEN '7086..0009' 
4 AND '..'; 
Next drop the original table
drop table table_name;
and then run your sql file (indexfile) to create the table and
associated
indexes.
@table_name

After this reapply all grants (run the recreate grant script)
and finally insert new rows.

insert into table_name
select * from table_name_tmp;



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dbsnmp package

2001-06-06 Thread Bunyamin K. Karadeniz



Hi all gurus,

My question is how can I query the database for 
which packages are installed?
I wonder if dbsnmp is installed?
Thank you.
Bunyamin


Problem with RMAN

2001-06-06 Thread Sonja ehovi

List hi!
Oracle 8.1.7 EE on WinNT.
During instalation of database, package DBMS_RCVCAT was not installed but I
have packages DBMS_RCVMAN, DBMS_BACKUP_RESTORE.
What should I do?
TIA,
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Re: job queue process parameters....

2001-06-06 Thread Connor McDonald


Yes - and from 8i (I think) upwards you can bind a job
to a particular instance.

hth
connor

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Re: Compute statisics

2001-06-06 Thread Connor McDonald

Hi Jared,

My post was to meant to imply that (say) if (in a
single query - and thats the important bit I missed
out) there were two tables, one with stats, and one
without, then the one without will use defaults (as
quoted in chapter 8 of the same manual)

I was trying to imply that if you've only got half the
stats, then on a query-by-query basic, you're most
likely to toggle between 

- 'good' CHOOSE (since all the stats are present for
the objects in this query)
- 'bad' CHOOSE (since some defaults are chosen for
object missing statistics)
- RULE (for queries where all objects have no stats)

Cheers
Connor


--- Jared Still [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  On
Tuesday 05 June 2001 01:20, Connor McDonald
 wrote:
  Sounds like nonsense to me...If you have half
  statistics, then the optimizer is going to use
  defaults for the others, 
 
 Conner,
 
 Are you sure about that?
 
 From the Optimizer chapter in the tuning manual:
 
 If the data dictionary contains statistics for at
 least one of the accessed 
 tables, then the optimizer uses a cost-based
 approach and optimizes with a 
 goal of best throughput. If the data dictionary
 contains no statistics for 
 any of the accessed tables, then the optimizer uses
 a rule-based approach. 
 This is the default value for the parameter.  
 
 ...
 
 If the optimizer uses the cost-based approach for a
 SQL statement, and if 
 some tables accessed by the statement have no
 statistics, then the optimizer 
 uses internal information (such as the number of
 data blocks allocated to 
 these tables) to estimate other statistics for these
 tables.   
 
 
 That coupled with the fact that when viewing the
 plan table you can see
 the CBO's use of the statistic would make me think
 otherwise.
 
 Is there some documentation that I missed that
 supports the CBO using
 defaults for analyzed tables when some of them are
 _not_ analyzed?
 
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Re: OPTIMIZER_INDEX_COST_ADJ OPTIMIZER_INDEX_CACHING

2001-06-06 Thread Connor McDonald

Given that OPTIMIZER_INDEX_CACHING is presumably meant
to the indicative of how much of an index is cached,
then setting it to your buffer hit ratio would seem
like a reasonable starting point.

Cheers
Connor

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 AIX 4.3.3
 
 
 Hey allLooking at our init parameters today
 after reading Tim
 Gorman's White Paper The Search for Intelligent
 Life in the Cost Based
 Optimizer and these 2 stood out like a sore thumb. 
  Both are at the
 default values:
 
 OPTIMIZER_INDEX_COST_ADJ = 100
 OPTIMIZER_INDEX_CACHING = 0
 
 We have an OLTP and a DSS database and I am looking
 at changing the
 OPTIMIZER_INDEX_CACHING = 90 for both and setting
 the
 OPTIMIZER_INDEX_COST_ADJ to a reasonable value based
 on db sequential reads
 vs. db scattered reads as a guideline  any
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 scattered info on this on Metalink but I'm looking
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 to type  HELP so
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RE: Trouble.. Standby Database. Urgent!!

2001-06-06 Thread Szecsy Tamas



Actually there may be no problem at all. Your standby 
database might be up to date, the last available archive log file has been 
applied to your standby database and Oracle tried to apply the next archive log 
file 'D:\ORACLE\ORA81\DATABASE\ARCHIVE\ARC00505.001 and did not find it, since 
you did not copied it to the standby server or it does not even exist - yet - in 
the primary site.

Check if the file missed by Oracle exists on the 
standby site archive directory.

Actually if you use managed standby database, Oracle 
can transfer the archived logs to the standby database through SQLNet and can 
make the standby database applie them automatically. But you will need 
Enterprise Edition Licences to do this:-((

If you move the archived log files from the primary 
site to the standby manually, it can work very well too, without additional 
licence fees. In this case create soma batch files for moving the files and 
applying them to the standby site. The triggering of the batch files can be 
achieved by OS specific scheduling commands. Actually we implemented it 
this way and it's working fine for us.

HTH,

Tamas Szecsy

  -Original Message-From: Saurabh Sharma 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 10:21 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Trouble.. Standby Database. Urgent!!
  hi all,
  
  I need ur help urgently. i've 
  created a standby database with the below mentioned steps..
  
  1. copied consistent backup of 
  datafiles folder to standby site.
  2. created standby control file 
  and sent to target location.
  3. switch logfile current and 
  copied to target.
  4. copied init.ora and changed 
  parameters for standby.
  
  at the standby site.
  1. startup 
  nomount   
  
  ok
  2. alter database mount standby 
  database. ok
  3. recover standby 
  database
   ... this last 
  recovery statement is giving lot of msgs like..log applied..
   then same 
  logfile not needed for this recovery.
   can not open 
  file..etc.
  
  I'm copying the archived log from 
  primary to standby standby_archive_dest location.
  here are the actual errors..
  
  SVRMGR recover standby 
  database;ORA-00279: change 708915 generated at 06/06/01 12:19:56 needed 
  for thread 1ORA-00289: suggestion : 
  D:\ORACLE\ORA81\DATABASE\ARCHIVE\ARC00505.001ORA-00280: change 708915 for 
  thread 1 is in sequence #505Specify log: {RET=suggested | 
  filename | AUTO | CANCEL}autoORA-00308: cannot open archived log 
  'D:\ORACLE\ORA81\DATABASE\ARCHIVE\ARC00505.001ORA-27041: unable to open 
  fileOSD-04002: unable to open fileO/S-Error: (OS 2) The system cannot 
  find the file specified.
  
  
  has anybody any idea of what's 
  causing this problem. what i feel is there i may have wrongly configured the 
  standby_archive_dest in init.ora at standby.
  
  any help is greatly 
  appreciated.
  
  thanks.
  
  saurabh sharma
  


RE: How to identify sql texts which are having open cursor?

2001-06-06 Thread Mark Leith

See the script I just posted in the thread:

Which SQL is executing?

This may help you out..

Mark

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select, by user, from v$sqlarea, a list of cursors in the pool
from a typical user. (see sql_addr and hash_value for joins).

I am sure someone somewhere has a script you can run to
do this. 

mit gluck

Hans

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|| Subject: How to identify sql texts which are having open cursor?
|| 
|| 
|| Our application is using up open_cursor limits of 500.
|| We are suspecting that application code written in
|| Java
|| are not closing cursors explicitly. 
|| Is there a way to idntify those sql code which are not
|| closing cursor?
|| We just don't want to increase open_cursor parameter
|| in init.ora and bounce the db without identifying sql.
|| 
|| 
|| HTH,
|| Shantanu
|| 
|| --- Kirsh, Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
||  Jared,
||  
||  I think that the default java_pool_size is 20M, not
||  30M.
||  
||  Gary
||  
||  
||  -Original Message-
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||  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
||  
||  
||  
||  Take a look at the SGA with:
||  
||  select * from v$sgastat
||  order by 1,2;
||  
||  You will likely see 30M dedicated to the
||  java pool, as that is the default.  This
||  can be cut back substantially if you are
||  not making use of java.
||  
||  Jared
||  
||  
||  On Tuesday 05 June 2001 05:01, C.S.Venkata
||  Subramanian wrote:
||   One of my co-worker came with this ques. In the
||  init.ora file he had set
||   the shared_pool_size to 10M and
||  db_block_buffers=1024 and redolog buffer
||  to
||   32768. but when he did sho sga in the sql*plus
||  prompt he got the following
||   output
||  
||   Total System Global Area   41297948 bytes
||   Fixed Size75804 bytes
||   Variable Size  32755712 bytes
||   Database Buffers8388608 bytes
||   Redo Buffers  77824 bytes
||  
||   Doing a select on V$SGA also gave the same result.
||  
||   My shared pool size is only 10M, why it is showing
||  nearly 40M. From where
||   did oracle derive the extra MB's? I ran throu the
||  oracle manual and got
||   only answer for database buffers.
||  
||   Can any one tell from where these extra MB's come
||  to Oracle from the OS.
||  
||   TIA
||  
||   Venkat
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RE: OT RE: Database writer

2001-06-06 Thread Mark Leith

Thought it was Paul Katner..

Oh well..

Mark

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No winner!  I drink the freaking beer all by myself. 

I think I'll pour myself a Smithwick's...somewhere in Dublin...aaa!


(Jefferson Starship)

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|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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|| 
|| 
|| So... no winner Ross?
|| 
|| Do we get the answer??
|| 
|| 
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|| 
|| 
||  Yea, NT blows. Blows like a fresh wind against the empire. 
||  
||  
||  (1st one to name that song lyric reference and i buy you a beer. 
||   NT bigots and their families summarily excused from this offer.:)
||  
||  || -Original Message-
||  || From: Christopher Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
||  || Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 2:16 PM
||  || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
||  || Subject: RE: Database writer
||  || 
||  || 
||  || Doubt, didnt' see NT, boy NT blows.
||  || 
||  || I hate how it doesn't list out the processes.
||  || 
||  || Walking on water and developing software from a 
||  || specification are easy if
||  || both are frozen.
||  || 
||  || Christopher R. Spence
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||  || Fuelspot 
||  || 
||  || 
||  || 
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||  || On Monday 04 June 2001 10:16, Christopher Spence wrote:
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||  || 
||  || Really?  On NT?
||  || 
||  || Jared
||  || 
||  || 
||  ||  Walking on water and developing software from a 
||  || specification are easy if
||  ||  both are frozen.
||  || 
||  ||  Christopher R. Spence
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||  || 
||  || 
||  ||  -Original Message-
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||  || 
||  ||  Hi all,
||  ||  I added db writer processes last week to try and 
||  || improve performance
||  ||  of one
||  ||  of my 8.1.7 db's on NT.  Does anyone know if there is a 
||  || way to see if
||  ||  Oracle actually started the additional db writer 
||  || processes?  I added
||  ||  db_writer_processes to the init file, the instance 
|| started so I am
||  || assuming
||  ||  that the db writer processes are working.  But we all know 
||  || what happens
||  ||  when we assume something.  Any ideas would be appreciated.
||  || 
||  ||  Sincerely,
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RE: contents of SGA

2001-06-06 Thread Mark Leith

The defaults are in the initSID.ora file, which is the initialization file
that Oracle reads upon startup.

If you are running Oracle 8  then you cna usually find this file in
ORACLE_HOME/admin/SID/pfile

Open the file and look for the parameter JAVA_POOL_SIZE and change as
necessary, and then bounce the instance..

HTH

Mark

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Subramanian
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 Thanks, From where does these default values come?? Is there any file or
table or Oracle default.
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On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 05:36:51
 Rachel Carmichael wrote:
you are confusing the size of the SGA (System Global Area) which is 40M
with
the size of the shared pool, which you set to 10M

The shared pool is contained within the SGA, but is NOT the only component
of the SGA. Also, depending on the version of Oracle you are running there
may be default values associated with structures like the java pool which
will add to the size of the SGA.

Rachel


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Subject: contents of SGA
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 04:01:08 -0800

One of my co-worker came with this ques. In the init.ora file he had set
the shared_pool_size to 10M and db_block_buffers=1024 and redolog buffer
to
32768. but when he did sho sga in the sql*plus prompt he got the following
output

Total System Global Area   41297948 bytes
Fixed Size75804 bytes
Variable Size  32755712 bytes
Database Buffers8388608 bytes
Redo Buffers  77824 bytes

Doing a select on V$SGA also gave the same result.

My shared pool size is only 10M, why it is showing nearly 40M. From where
did oracle derive the extra MB's? I ran throu the oracle manual and got
only answer for database buffers.

Can any one tell from where these extra MB's come to Oracle from the OS.

TIA

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Re: dbsnmp package

2001-06-06 Thread Danisment Gazi Unal (Unal Bilisim)



Bunyamin,
select * from dba_objects
where object_name like '%DBSNMP%';

"Bunyamin K. Karadeniz" wrote:

Hi
all gurus,My question
is how can I query the database for which packages are installed?I
wonder if dbsnmp is installed?Thank
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F45webm memory usage

2001-06-06 Thread KC




Dear list,

We are Oracle Apps site, one of the 
problem we are having is memory leak with f45webm processes. We had 4G of memory 
on the web server tier where the Form server run, when we run the prtmem 
command, it reported that 3.5G was used by user (application), using the memps 
command I can see the private area (I think this is the heap area of the 
process) of the f45webm is chewing up a lot of memory. We had opened tar with 
Oracle Support and applied all the patches suggested and also upgrade to the 
latest Form patchset, nothing seem to bring down the heap size. I further 
investigated and found something which I couldn't make sense of, I observed the 
paging rate and scan rate using sar throughout the day, there was not much 
happening, just a tiny bit of paging activities, if the box is using 3.5G of 
4G, I would expected to see a lot of paging and scanning activities. Is 
anyone out there have similar problem with f45webm memory usage. I remembered 
reading something about Oracle server process do not release heap memory when it 
was done with it, it was up to the OS to reclaim it. In order words, the heap 
side shown is not really what is being used, sort of like a high water mark. 
Would the f45webm processes exhibits similar behaviour?? Also the prtmem and 
memps command, the number they displayed represent virtual or physical memory? I 
got a feeling is virtual because the total size included shared as well, 
but my SA said it is physical memory, any ideal??

KC


RE: Further adventures with Oracle Management Server

2001-06-06 Thread Mark Leith

Paul

The only workaround I found for this was to upgrade to Win2K. Then using the
service recovery option - so that when the service fails, it just restarts
it.

You get a few recovery options with Win2K for services:

Restart the service
Run a file
Restart the computer
Take no action

Which you can specify for:

Fist Failure
Second Failure
Subsequent Failures

I set each failure to restart the service.. And it works fine..

Sorry I can't help with NT though.. Upgrade it's a LOT better..:)

Regards

Mark


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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hi folks,

firstly, many thanks for the advice about the resources.ora not found
message. I've followed the advice to simply create the folder given in the
message, and to move a copy of the resources.ora file, which exists
elsewhere, to the folder. I did this, and OMS starts cleanly now. So thanks
once again!

And for my next problem... OK, so I've set the Management Server service to
start automatically (this is running on an NT server, just to recap).
Likewise, the repository database starts automatically when the system is
rebooted. Unfortunately, the system appears to try and start the Management
Server service before the database Start service has completed, so the
Management Server fails to start. Does anyone have any idea how to tell the
Management Server service not to start until the database service has
started up? Or has anyone encountered this and figured out a cunning
workround?

Thanks again for the help!

Paul

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OEM 2.1 cannot contact agent on a node

2001-06-06 Thread Paul Vincent

Hi - me again, still having lots of fun with Oracle Enterprise Manager 2.1!

Having got OMS working, I fired up the OEM 2.1 console, and gave it a list
of nodes to discover. It found one of the 8.1.6 nodes (an NT box), and the
7.3.4 node (a Sun box), but failed on two others (an 8.1.6 Sun box and an
8.0.5 NT box) with the message:

Discovery failed: VNI-4009: Cannot contact agent on the node.

Now, the 8.1.6 Sun box hadn't got its Intelligent Agent started, so that was
soon rectified.

However, the 8.0.5 NT box DOES have a running Intelligent Agent (the Service
name is Agent80), and on the server, the Agent80 service shows up when I do
a net start command. The documentation suggested I check the server was
using TCP/IP - which it is. I also came back to my workstation and tried
pinging the server, and it pings successfully. But despite trying everything
I can think of - even stopping and restarting the Agent80 service on the
8.0.5 box, I still can't get OEM 2.1 to discover the node successfully.

Any ideas, please?

Cheers,

Paul


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RE: Further adventures with Oracle Management Server

2001-06-06 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

Sorry I'm not much help, but I remember reading about a parameter in one of
the OEM docs that governs retries, time delays.

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
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Subject:RE: Further adventures with Oracle Management Server

Paul

The only workaround I found for this was to upgrade to Win2K. Then
using the
service recovery option - so that when the service fails, it just
restarts
it.

You get a few recovery options with Win2K for services:

Restart the service
Run a file
Restart the computer
Take no action

Which you can specify for:

Fist Failure
Second Failure
Subsequent Failures

I set each failure to restart the service.. And it works fine..

Sorry I can't help with NT though.. Upgrade it's a LOT better..:)

Regards

Mark


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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hi folks,

firstly, many thanks for the advice about the resources.ora not
found
message. I've followed the advice to simply create the folder given
in the
message, and to move a copy of the resources.ora file, which exists
elsewhere, to the folder. I did this, and OMS starts cleanly now. So
thanks
once again!

And for my next problem... OK, so I've set the Management Server
service to
start automatically (this is running on an NT server, just to
recap).
Likewise, the repository database starts automatically when the
system is
rebooted. Unfortunately, the system appears to try and start the
Management
Server service before the database Start service has completed, so
the
Management Server fails to start. Does anyone have any idea how to
tell the
Management Server service not to start until the database service
has
started up? Or has anyone encountered this and figured out a cunning
workround?

Thanks again for the help!

Paul

Paul Vincent
Database Administrator, University of Central England


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8i for solaris on intel

2001-06-06 Thread novicedba



Hi,
I have a Solaris test system on Intel. This is 
first time I installed Solaris. I am trying to findout in i can install the 
oracle 9i on this system.
Can someone enlighten me.
I don't mind installing any version as it is for 
test purposes, but 9i will be a great thing to do

novice


Re: How to remove corrupted blocks from datafile.

2001-06-06 Thread Danisment Gazi Unal (Unal Bilisim)

Hi Uday,

I don't know in which version dbv is stable; but, I know dbv was very buggy product. I
recommend:

- add event="10231 trace name context forever, level 10" to init.ora. This will 
eliminate
corrupted blocks during full table scan. Note that this event is used while reading 
from
disk. It does not effect cached blocks.
-  rebounce db.
- create new table as select * from corrupted_table

New table will not contain corrupted block.

Following event should be used if blocks are accessed through index:
event="10233 trace name context forever, level 10"



udaycb wrote:

 Hi,
 I found some corrupted blocks in one of the datafile. I have created the
 temp table by select all the records (excluding the records in corrupted
 blocks) from corrupted table, and dropped the table, renamed the temp table
 back to original. After this when i run DBV on that file, it still shows
 there are some corrupted blocks in the file.  i have two questions,

 1 How do i calculate how many records i have lost?
 2 How do i remove corrupted blocks from the blocks?

 Can anyone tell me ...
 Thanks in advance
 Uday

   
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Re: query using OR operator

2001-06-06 Thread Greg Moore



both will return duplicates since the 
OR operator is used.
select ename from emp where mgr = 1 or 
mgr in (1);
-- If there are three rows where mgr = 1, this 
query will return three rows.

select ename from emp where mgr = 
1
union all
select ename from emp where mgr in 
(1)
-- But this returns six rows.

In rewriting your query to tune it, you changed the 
sql from the form used in the first example to the form used in the 
second. So for your query, if there is ever a row in the table where the 
CHILD column value = 105 and in that same row the PARENT column value is also 
105, you will get duplicates in the new tuned query that would not have appeared 
in the old one. Maybe you have a check constraint on these two columns to 
guarantee that will never happen


Re: Trouble.. Standby Database. Urgent!!

2001-06-06 Thread Joseph S. Testa

has log 505 made it over to the standby yet, you should start reading
the docs, if log 505 is not there yet, than that is the way its SUPPOSED
to work.

joe
 Saurabh Sharma wrote:
 
 hi all,
 
 I need ur help urgently. i've created a standby database with the
 below mentioned steps..
 
 1. copied consistent backup of datafiles folder to standby site.
 2. created standby control file and sent to target location.
 3. switch logfile current and copied to target.
 4. copied init.ora and changed parameters for standby.
 
 at the standby site.
 1. startup nomountok
 2. alter database mount standby database.  ok
 3. recover standby database
... this last recovery statement is giving lot of msgs like..log
 applied..
 then same logfile not needed for this recovery.
 can not open file..etc.
 
 I'm copying the archived log from primary to standby
 standby_archive_dest location.
 here are the actual errors..
 
 SVRMGR recover standby database;
 ORA-00279: change 708915 generated at 06/06/01 12:19:56 needed for
 thread 1
 ORA-00289: suggestion : D:\ORACLE\ORA81\DATABASE\ARCHIVE\ARC00505.001
 ORA-00280: change 708915 for thread 1 is in sequence #505
  Specify log: {RET=suggested | filename | AUTO | CANCEL}
 auto
 ORA-00308: cannot open archived log
 'D:\ORACLE\ORA81\DATABASE\ARCHIVE\ARC00505.001
 ORA-27041: unable to open file
 OSD-04002: unable to open file
 O/S-Error: (OS 2) The system cannot find the file specified.
 
 
 has anybody any idea of what's causing this problem. what i feel is
 there i may have wrongly configured the standby_archive_dest in
 init.ora at standby.
 
 any help is greatly appreciated.
 
 thanks.
 
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Heads up on nasty bug on NT

2001-06-06 Thread A. Bardeen

Hi all!

Just a warning for those of you running Oracle on NT.

There's an extremely nasty bug specific to 8.1.6/8.1.7
on NT/Win2K (not sure if it affects 8.1.5) where a
datafile that is resize or autoextended exactly on a
4GB boundary cannot be resized.  Bug 1668488.

Options:

1.  PITR prior to when the datafile extended

2.  Force the db open (requires full db export and
rebuild).  

3.  Clone a subset of the db containing the corrupted
datafile(s), force it open, export affected
tablespaces and import them into the original db.

4.  Drop the corrupted datafiles to open the db and
then drop the tablespace to which the datafiles
belong.

Options 2  3 can result in logical corruption as
there's no way to rollback any uncommitted
transactions that have already been forced to disk.

Bug is not fixed in 8.1.6; it's scheduled for the
8.1.7.2 patchset.

Those of you with autoextend on your datafiles should
modify the maxsize to be less than 4GB or turn off
autoextend.

HTH,

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Re: Creating and Oracle 7 DB from an Oracle 8 DB

2001-06-06 Thread Joseph S. Testa

why not run version 7 export against the oracle 8 database(its been more
than 4 years since i've played with a 7 database).  or am i missing
something here?

joe
 Tim Allen wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Its a long and boring story but I have an Oracle 8 database and I need
 to create an Oracle 7 database from it to support one of our
 applications. The schema of the Oracle 8 db does not have any oo
 features and is, in theory, it functionally compatable with an Oracle
 7 db. But I understand that there are issues with using export from
 oracle 8 and import to oracle 7, I.e it is incompatable.
 
 Has anyone had any experience in doing this or any suggestions on ways
 of doing it?
 
  And by the way the data in tables needs to be copied from 8 to 7
 also.
 
 Cheers
 
 
 Tim Allen
 Designer
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problems when running dbstart

2001-06-06 Thread Mikael Granhed

Hi,
I have oracle 8.06 installed on Sun Solaris. I have problems starting the
database after a system crash and I had to reboot the system. When i run
dbstart I got the following error message:

SVRMGR connected
SVRMGR oracle instance shut down
SVRMGR
Server manager complete
...
...
...

SVRMGR connected
SVRMGR LRM-00101: unknown parameter name 'open_link'
ORA-01078: failure in processing system parameters
SVRMGR server manager complete


It's probably a very simple error but I'm a newbie in this area.


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LOT (Little OT): Interesting Oracle related URL's.

2001-06-06 Thread Mark Leith

Hello everyone.

I am currently finishing off our company website, and am putting together
the links section. This is going to be used to link to COOL resources for
Oracle, Sybase  -aahem- SQLServer DBAs.

I was wondering if any of you have, like me, a list of URLs that you swear
by for your needs with Oracle - and of course Sybase and SQLServer (hell and
DB2) if you use them. If so would you mind either posting them to the list
(I'm sure others would benefit from this) or sending them directly to me? I
have my own list of links, but this site is for DBAs at the end of the day,
so I thought I would get your input :)

Also, are there any HTML/Web experts out there that would mind giving our
site the once over when I publish it to the web? I have put a fair bit of
work in to it, but feedback is always extremely helpful (the site is for
RDBMS tools, but this is not a plug - I'm only interested in design and
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Cheers

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Re: dbms_java and file permissions

2001-06-06 Thread Brian Wisniewski
 Thanks for taking a shot Jared. I'm just starting with Java, learnin' as I go.
Sorry I didn't post the query initially. It was basically a select * from dba_java_policy wheregrantee = 'TISSD'.
External calls to the OS will be as the oracle user which would be hard to limit however it is happening in certain situations and I don't know this for a fact but I believe these calls shouldn't make it to the OS if there are restrictions. I may be off on that but /export/home/oracle is also owned by Oracle and I wasn't allowed to do an ls on that directory unless I had explicitely granted permission to it. Also I can't do an ls on /u20/app/oracle/testjunk.file which is explictly restricted (still owned by Oracle on OS) but I can still ls the directory (even though I tried to restrict access) or even move the file. Strange.
Here's the response I got from Metalink forums. 
Hi. This issue must be handled by an analyst in the Internet Languages group. Unfortunately at this time we do not have technical forum support for Internet Languages within MetaLink. For assistance from Oracle Support on this issue, you will need to log an iTAR. iTAR functionality is accessible via the TARs option on MetaLink Home.
I'lltry the TAR approach and see if I get anywhere.
Thanks again - Brian
 Jared Still [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Brian,I've still gotta lot to learn about Java, but I'll takea stab at this.First off, what query did you use to produce the outputbelow?Do external processes run via Java run as Oracle? I'm guessing that they do, but I could be wrong, and don'thave time to test this right now.If so, this will likely put a limit on your abilities to restrict access to directories owned by Oracle.Hope some of this helps.JaredOn Tuesday 05 June 2001 07:41, Brian Wisniewski wrote: 8.1.7.1 on Solaris 7 I created a small java procedure to be able to call O/S commands from within the database (using Ask Tom's example). Works a little too well because I can't seem to restrict access to the oracle directories which is obviously a major concern. Here are the list of !
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privileges I granted/restricted to the owner of the java procedure. KIND GRANTE TYPE_ TYPE_NAME NAME ACTION  -- - -- -- - GRANT TISSD SYS java.io.FilePermission /export/home/oracle/bsw/scripts/java read RESTRICT TISSD SYS java.io.FilePermission /u20/app/oracle read,write,execute,delete RESTRICT TISSD SYS java.io.FilePermission /u20/app/oracle/ read,write,execute,delete RESTRICT TISSD SYS java.io.FilePermission /u20/app/oracle/* read,write,execute,delete RESTRICT TISSD SYS java.io.FilePermission /u20/app/oracle/- read,write,execute,delete RESTRICT TISSD SYS java.io.FilePermission /u20/app/oracle/test* read,write,execute,delete RESTRICT TISSD SYS java.io.FilePermission /u20/app/oracle/testjunk.file read,write,execute,delete GRANT TISSD SYS java.io.FilePermission /usr!
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/bin/* execute GRANT TISSD SYS java.lang.RuntimePermission * writeFileDescriptor 9 rows selected. As you can see I tried numerous ways to restrict access to /u20/app/oracle files and had very limited luck. Each time I added a new restriction I logged out of the tissd account and back in. On the flip side I had to grant access to /export/home/oracle/bsw/scripts/java to allow files to be read there. I don't understand why unlimited access is being allowed to the files which should be the most restricted. The tissd user was NOT granted DBA privs nor the JAVASYSPRIV or JAVAUSERPRIV roles. I've read the 8.1.7 Java Developers Guide Chapter 5 on security and haven't found the answer there either. This worked, which I didn't think it should. SQL exec rc('/usr/bin/ls /u20/app/oracle'); admin jre oraInventory oradata oui product testjunk.file Return code is 0 And this failed. SQL exec rc('/usr/bin/ls /u20/app/oracle/*'); Return code is 2 Doing an ls on the file failed SQL exec rc('/usr/bin/ls /u20/app/oracle/testjunk.file'); Return code is 2 But moving it worked fine. AAUUUGGGHHH!!! SQL exec rc('/usr/bin/mv /u20/app/oracle/testjunk.file /u20/app/oracle/testfile.junk'); Return code is 0 Just your regular ol' IDIOT asking for HELP. Thanks - BrianDo You Yahoo!?
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Re: problems when running dbstart

2001-06-06 Thread Danisment Gazi Unal (Unal Bilisim)

Hello Mikael,

Rename open_link parameter in paremeter file initsid.ora or init.ora to
open_links.

Mikael Granhed wrote:

 Hi,
 I have oracle 8.06 installed on Sun Solaris. I have problems starting the
 database after a system crash and I had to reboot the system. When i run
 dbstart I got the following error message:

 SVRMGR connected
 SVRMGR oracle instance shut down
 SVRMGR
 Server manager complete
 ...
 ...
 ...

 SVRMGR connected
 SVRMGR LRM-00101: unknown parameter name 'open_link'
 ORA-01078: failure in processing system parameters
 SVRMGR server manager complete

 It's probably a very simple error but I'm a newbie in this area.

 regards
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Re: OT RE: SUMMARY: Thanks everyone - tru64

2001-06-06 Thread Thater, William

On Tue, 5 Jun 2001,Mohan, Ross scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

-I AM AN IDIOT

HOLD IT!  that's *my* job on this list, thank you.  i've worked long and hard to be 
the best idiot is can so i *deserve* the job.;-)

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OT RE: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-06 Thread Mohan, Ross

 
Jaren, clue me in. what's the metric?
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On Tuesday 05 June 2001 11:13, Post, Ethan wrote:
 I say we all go to Steve's house and play a game of Survivor to see
who
 the most powerfull DBA in the world is.  
  ^^

Mladen would win.

Jared

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RE: OT RE: Database writer

2001-06-06 Thread Mohan, Ross

 Paul Cantor (sp?) and Grace Slick were
the driving force..i'm impressed.

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Thought it was Paul Katner..

Oh well..

Mark

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No winner!  I drink the freaking beer all by myself. 

I think I'll pour myself a Smithwick's...somewhere in Dublin...aaa!


(Jefferson Starship)

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|| So... no winner Ross?
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|| Do we get the answer??
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||  Yea, NT blows. Blows like a fresh wind against the empire. 
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||   NT bigots and their families summarily excused from this offer.:)
||  
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||  || Doubt, didnt' see NT, boy NT blows.
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||  || I hate how it doesn't list out the processes.
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||  || Jared
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||  ||  Hi all,
||  ||  I added db writer processes last week to try and 
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RE: OT RE: SUMMARY: Thanks everyone - tru64

2001-06-06 Thread Mohan, Ross

 
I wonder if we on the list made our own show of Wizard of OZ
who would be the StrawMan, TinMan, Lion, and, well...Dorothy. 

Applications are being accepted for good witch, bad witch, and
the wizard, of course. 

I've got dibs on ToTo



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On Tue, 5 Jun 2001,Mohan, Ross scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

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HOLD IT!  that's *my* job on this list, thank you.  i've worked long and
hard to be the best idiot is can so i *deserve* the job.;-)

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Re: OEM 2.1 cannot contact agent on a node

2001-06-06 Thread novicedba

Hi,

I think you need to install the 8.1.6 agent on the NT box in question
(assuming that your OMS is on 8.1.6)
Going by that logic I would love to know how 7.3.4 on the SUN node worked (I
have no experience with SUN)
We had a similar situation where OMS was on 8.1.7 but the other databases
which were 8.1.5 had problems and it was rectified by installing the 8.1.7
agent on the systems.
It worked!
Someone please correct me if I am wrong

coz
I am a
novice
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 Hi - me again, still having lots of fun with Oracle Enterprise Manager
2.1!

 Having got OMS working, I fired up the OEM 2.1 console, and gave it a list
 of nodes to discover. It found one of the 8.1.6 nodes (an NT box), and the
 7.3.4 node (a Sun box), but failed on two others (an 8.1.6 Sun box and an
 8.0.5 NT box) with the message:

 Discovery failed: VNI-4009: Cannot contact agent on the node.

 Now, the 8.1.6 Sun box hadn't got its Intelligent Agent started, so that
was
 soon rectified.

 However, the 8.0.5 NT box DOES have a running Intelligent Agent (the
Service
 name is Agent80), and on the server, the Agent80 service shows up when I
do
 a net start command. The documentation suggested I check the server was
 using TCP/IP - which it is. I also came back to my workstation and tried
 pinging the server, and it pings successfully. But despite trying
everything
 I can think of - even stopping and restarting the Agent80 service on the
 8.0.5 box, I still can't get OEM 2.1 to discover the node successfully.

 Any ideas, please?

 Cheers,

 Paul

 
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OT: Oracle price politics

2001-06-06 Thread antonio . belloni


Hi,

Few days ago someone posted a link to a newsletter about the slashing of
the prices of Oracle products in Japan and that Larry Ellison would
announce price reductions that will apply worldwide. Someone can send me
the link ??

TIA,
Antonio Belloni

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RE: OT-Passing variables to a awk/sed script

2001-06-06 Thread William Rogge

For something as you have described, it is relatively simple:

the_val=$1  #set a script variable to the passed value
cat text_file | sed s.abc/xyz.$the_val.g new_file
mv new_file text_file

Keep it as simple as possible.

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Hello List,

This must be piece of cake for the UNIX gurus.

Trying to pass parameters to a  simple awk script. Getting stuck.
First q., can we do that.
If yes I need to solve the foll. problem,

In a huge text file locate for  abc/xyz and replace it with a supplied 
parameter value. This paramter must of course, be able to take on any value 
during the run of the program.
 Any help or tips on that would be highy appreciated.

Thanks

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RE: LOT (Little OT): Interesting Oracle related URL's.

2001-06-06 Thread Christopher Spence

This list is by far incomplete, but it is the links i have on my site
currently.
I have about 50-100 different sites, I only put the ones I most frequently
use or like on my site.
I am going to go through the rest and finishing adding links as well.  I
left out some good ones here I know, but my list is currently at home not
here as I just cleaning up my machine.

IXOra.com (Steve Adam's Site)  
http://ixora.com.au/


Oracle Technet
http://technet.oracle.com


OraPub (Craig Shallahamer's Website)
www.orapub.com


DBA Support
http://www.dbasupport.com/


Thomas Kyte's Website
http://osi.oracle.com/~tkyte/


Connor McDonald's Web Site
http://www.oracledba.co.uk/


Hotsos (Cary Millsap's Site)
www.hotsos.com


Jared Still's Website
http://www.cybcon.com/~jkstill/util/util_master.html


Thomas Cox's Website
http://www.geocities.com/tbcox23/


Evergreen Database Technologies
http://www.evdbt.com/


Biju's Web Site
http://www.bijoos.com/oracle/index.htm


OraBugFinder
http://www.unal-bilisim.com/products/iorabugfinder/iorabugfinder.html

Vampire D's Oracle Den (Christopher R. Spence's Site)
www.vampired.net 


Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

Christopher R. Spence
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Hello everyone.

I am currently finishing off our company website, and am putting together
the links section. This is going to be used to link to COOL resources for
Oracle, Sybase  -aahem- SQLServer DBAs.

I was wondering if any of you have, like me, a list of URLs that you swear
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RE: OT RE: SUMMARY: Thanks everyone - tru64

2001-06-06 Thread Farnsworth, Dave

Can I try out for a flying monkey role! :o)

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I wonder if we on the list made our own show of Wizard of OZ
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RE: OT RE: SUMMARY: Thanks everyone - tru64

2001-06-06 Thread April Wells

PLEASE I want to be the wicked witch!!!


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Can I try out for a flying monkey role! :o)

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I wonder if we on the list made our own show of Wizard of OZ
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Applications are being accepted for good witch, bad witch, and
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I've got dibs on ToTo



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Re: SUMMARY: Thanks everyone - tru64

2001-06-06 Thread Scott Canaan


According to a technical representative at Oracle in Rochester, NY, Oracle
no longer develops on Solaris. He stated that they have changed to
HP-UX for development. He said the reason was instability with Solaris.
"Koivu, Lisa" wrote:

Kevin, sure I
will. I just didn't want to muck up the list.
Here's what I
found. If anyone has any comments to add, please do.
My question was
about the utilities across different flavors of Unix and if they mean the
same thing. vmstat, iostat are the same, however the switches may
be a bit different. sar is system V only. truss you must purchase
a license for. top is freeware. There is a utility called 'collect'
that does something similar to top.
The response
regarding tru64 has been overwhelmingly positive. Some of the positive
comments I received:
1. C compiler
(Kernighan and Richie) is not ANSI compliant
and may affect any 3rd party apps.
2. Compaq
hardware used to be lagging in Oracle (Apps) patch releases. Not
anymore.
3. The
journaling filesystem makes mistakes like unplugging the wrong cord (oops!)
a simple fix instead of hours of downtime.
4. Security
- Since tru64 is not 'mainstream', e.g. marketed everywhere extremely popular,
intimate knowledge for hacking the os is not widely known. So obscurity
works in your favor.
5. Clustering
technology is mature, solid and proven.
6. tru64
is indeed a first tier platform for Oracle.
7. Compaq's
support is rated as 'very helpful'.
8. tru64
has the ability to quickly clone a filesystem.
9. OPS
can reside on a filesystem on tru64.
10. Benchmarking
Solaris E10K/64CPU against Compaq GS-160/16CPU favored the Compaq!
WOW
11.
For 9i, Oracle licensed
also the TruCluster technology from Compaq.
Oracle RAC (Real
Application Cluster, new names for OPS) for 9i will only initially be available
on tru64, truly first tier.
Caveats/ Other
comments:
1. Sun,
relying on their own proprietary hardware, may be hurting themselves in
the long run.
2. Sun
is ex-pen-sive! Compaq wins in this comparison.
3. The
future of Sun and Compaq seems a bit shaky right now, but they should pull
through in the long run.
4. There's
a bug in tru64 that doesn't allow one listener to service databases with
different versions. Workaround is multiple listeners (no big deal)
5. Oracle
does develop on Sun hardware. Calling OWWS for a Solaris system may
net an answer quicker than running tru64.
6. Avoid
the ultra sparc-2 chips from Sun. They have a problem with bad caches
causing random reboots. I saw this at a previous employer.
7. If it's
possible, consider IBM/AIX. IBM's sales force is highly trained in
administration so you can talk real system architecture with them (not
that I'm an admin or architect, I am neither). IBM's support is also
top notch.
Special thanks
to the following people for their responses:
Scott Shafer
Ron Morton
Lee Robertson
Jerry Hess
Michael Hand
Murali Vallath
Joe Hatchel
Mike Kurt
Ray Stell
Darren Browett
Stephen Andert
Stefan Moeding
And, the one
and only clown Ross Mohan
Like I said,
I'm overwhelmed at how helpful everyone is.
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Lisa:
How about contributing a summary of
the feedback?
Kevin
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I just wanted to say thank you to everyone
who responded to me when I asked
for info on tru64 Unix. I received
much more info and feedback than I ever
expected!
This list is extremely helpful and
I am very appreciative of how willing
people are to answer questions.
I just hope I contribute enough to make up
for how much everyone here has helped
me.
HELP!
Have a great day, all.
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Re: How to remove corrupted blocks from datafile.

2001-06-06 Thread Nuno Souto

I'm sure you'll receive lots of good advice,
but here goes some more (maybe not good?):
The Velpuri Backup and Recovery book has some
very good descriptions of exactly how to cope
with this.  There are a number of packages you
can use to flag the blocks as bad and effectively
stop them from being used, or recover them, whichever
the case may be.  Of course, it's always a good idea
to check the actual hardware first!

Cheers
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 Hi,
 I found some corrupted blocks in one of the datafile. I have created
the
 temp table by select all the records (excluding the records in
corrupted
 blocks) from corrupted table, and dropped the table, renamed the
temp table
 back to original. After this when i run DBV on that file, it still
shows
 there are some corrupted blocks in the file.  i have two questions,

 1 How do i calculate how many records i have lost?
 2 How do i remove corrupted blocks from the blocks?

 Can anyone tell me ...
 Thanks in advance
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RE: OT RE: SUMMARY: Thanks everyone - tru64

2001-06-06 Thread MHately



I'd like to apply for evil-flying-monkey-thing or failing that, the muchkin who
says Follow the yellow brick road! first.

I have previous experience of being evil, flying and saying Follow the yellow
brick road!.
I have studied being a monkey to degree level.

I'm ready for my closeup.

Regards,
Mike Hately,
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RE: Heads up on nasty bug on NT

2001-06-06 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

Shouldn't you have just stopped at the first sentance :-))


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Re: SV: problems when running dbstart

2001-06-06 Thread Danisment Gazi Unal (Unal Bilisim)

You should rename it to max_transaction_branches .

It's a typo error. I do typo errors very frequently, too.

Mikael Granhed wrote:

 Thanks for your help, now it doesn't complain about "open_links" when i
 rename it. Now it's problem with the "max_transaktion_bransches". Should I
 rename that variable too?

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  Hello Mikael,
 
  Rename open_link parameter in paremeter file initsid.ora or init.ora to
  open_links.
 
  Mikael Granhed wrote:
 
   Hi,
   I have oracle 8.06 installed on Sun Solaris. I have problems starting
  the
   database after a system crash and I had to reboot the system. When i run
   dbstart I got the following error message:
  
   SVRMGR connected
   SVRMGR oracle instance shut down
   SVRMGR
   Server manager complete
   ...
   ...
   ...
  
   SVRMGR connected
   SVRMGR LRM-00101: unknown parameter name 'open_link'
   ORA-01078: failure in processing system parameters
   SVRMGR server manager complete
  
   It's probably a very simple error but I'm a newbie in this area.
  
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SV: problems when running dbstart

2001-06-06 Thread Mikael Granhed

Thanks for your help, now it doesn't complain about open_links when i
rename it. Now it's problem with the max_transaktion_bransches. Should I
rename that variable too?

/Mikael

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 Hello Mikael,
 
 Rename open_link parameter in paremeter file initsid.ora or init.ora to
 open_links.
 
 Mikael Granhed wrote:
 
  Hi,
  I have oracle 8.06 installed on Sun Solaris. I have problems starting
 the
  database after a system crash and I had to reboot the system. When i run
  dbstart I got the following error message:
 
  SVRMGR connected
  SVRMGR oracle instance shut down
  SVRMGR
  Server manager complete
  ...
  ...
  ...
 
  SVRMGR connected
  SVRMGR LRM-00101: unknown parameter name 'open_link'
  ORA-01078: failure in processing system parameters
  SVRMGR server manager complete
 
  It's probably a very simple error but I'm a newbie in this area.
 
  regards
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RE: OT RE: SUMMARY: Thanks everyone - tru64

2001-06-06 Thread Thater, William

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-who would be the StrawMan, TinMan, Lion, and, well...Dorothy.
-
-Applications are being accepted for good witch, bad witch, and
-the wizard, of course.
-
-I've got dibs on ToTo

i'll stick to Shrek, fits me better.  i'm just an ogernight sucess.;-)

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RE: Creating and Oracle 7 DB from an Oracle 8 DB

2001-06-06 Thread Mark Leith



Tim,

AFAIK 
you can run the version 7 export utility against the version 8 database, but you 
have to run the catexp7.sql script on the 8 database?

Something like that.. have never done it :)
Regards

Mark

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  Hi,
  
  Its a long and 
  boring story but I have an Oracle8 database andI need to create 
  anOracle 7 database from it to support one of our applications. The 
  schema of the Oracle 8 db does not have any oo features and is, in theory, it 
  functionally compatable with an Oracle 7 db. But I understand that there are 
  issues with using export from oracle 8 and import to oracle 7, I.e it is 
  incompatable. 
  
  Has anyone had any 
  experience in doing this or any suggestions on ways of doing 
  it?
  
  And by the 
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Re: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-06 Thread Thater, William

On Tue, 5 Jun 2001,Jared Still scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

-On Tuesday 05 June 2001 11:13, Post, Ethan wrote:
- I say we all go to Steve's house and play a game of Survivor to see who
- the most powerfull DBA in the world is.
-  ^^
-
-Mladen would win.
-
-Jared
-
-
that would depend on the game of survivor we played.;-)  i do admit to having soem 
experience at it.;-)

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RE: Oracle price politics

2001-06-06 Thread Mark Leith

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ERPcentral - http://www.erpcentral.com

Oracle slashes prices in Japan. Global cuts next?
http://www.erpcentral.com 
cw360.com June 4, 2001
Oracle could be on the verge of announcing significant price cuts around
the world after its Japanese operation slashed database prices this week.
The company is refusing to comment on speculation, saying chief executive
officer Larry Ellison will be making a major pricing announcement to
coincide with the launch of the 9i database at Oracle OpenWorld later this
month.

Oracle confronts pricing, user issues
http://www.erpcentral.com
Computerworld June 4, 2001
Cuts pricing in Japan Dan Verton, Computerworld Oracle Corp.'s Japanese
unit last week slashed prices for the company's database software by 25
percent and increased volume discounts to 35 percent, raising hopes among
U.S. users that the cuts herald lower prices here.



Street Fight: Oracle
http://www.erpcentral.com 
Forbes.com, June 4, 2001
With sagging earnings and lack of guidance for its soon-to-be-announced
fourth quarter, Oracle has been slapped with no less than nine analyst
downgrades since early March. Shares of the database software provider
have dropped 67% from their 52-week high, giving the stock a latest
12-month price-to-earnings ratio of just 14. Is it time to buy America's
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Hi,

Few days ago someone posted a link to a newsletter about the slashing of
the prices of Oracle products in Japan and that Larry Ellison would
announce price reductions that will apply worldwide. Someone can send me
the link ??

TIA,
Antonio Belloni

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dbms_utility.analyze_schema OR dbms_stats ?

2001-06-06 Thread Gene Sais

Oracle 8.1.7
AIX 4.3.3

I looked at the docs and it appears Oracle wants you to use dbms_stats to generate 
statistics for cbo.  I am currently using dbms_utility.analyze_schema.  

Should I change to dbms_stats (i know it doesnt give you chained rows, avg free space, 
# of unused blocks)?  Are there any advantages over dbms_utility.analyze_schema?

What does everyone here use to generate their stats?

Thanks.
Gene

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RE: OT RE: SUMMARY: Thanks everyone - tru64

2001-06-06 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

As I stand a towering 5 feet 7, I could always qualify as a member of the
Lollipop League or was that Guild

Lee


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I wonder if we on the list made our own show of Wizard of OZ
who would be the StrawMan, TinMan, Lion, and, well...Dorothy. 

Applications are being accepted for good witch, bad witch, and
the wizard, of course. 

I've got dibs on ToTo



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On Tue, 5 Jun 2001,Mohan, Ross scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

-I AM AN IDIOT

HOLD IT!  that's *my* job on this list, thank you.  i've worked long and
hard to be the best idiot is can so i *deserve* the job.;-)

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Help for Unix text file processing

2001-06-06 Thread Kumar, Dharminder

 Hey all,
 
 I am looking for some commands like ( grep, egrep, sed etc) to do the
 following on a Unix box.
 
 1. Command to take out all the blank line from a text file. The blank line
 may include tabs and whitespaces.
 2. Command to take out the trailing and starting blanks and tabs from the
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RE: SUMMARY: Thanks everyone - tru64

2001-06-06 Thread Sharpe, Richard









This
surely does sound the Wiz of Oz, Solaris unstable ? Tru64, get real.





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everyone - tru64



According to
a technical representative at Oracle in Rochester, NY, Oracle no longer
develops on Solaris. He stated that they have changed to HP-UX for
development. He said the reason was instability with Solaris. 

Koivu, Lisa wrote: 

 

Kevin,
sure I will. I just didn't want to muck up the list. 

Here's
what I found. If anyone has any comments to add, please do. 

My
question was about the utilities across different flavors of Unix and if they
mean the same thing. vmstat, iostat are the same, however the switches
may be a bit different. sar is system V only. truss you must
purchase a license for. top is freeware. There is a utility called
'collect' that does something similar to top. 

The
response regarding tru64 has been overwhelmingly positive. Some of the
positive comments I received: 

1.
C compiler (Kernighan and Richie) is not ANSI compliant and may affect any 3rd party apps. 
2. Compaq hardware used to be lagging in
Oracle (Apps) patch releases. Not anymore. 
3. The journaling filesystem makes mistakes
like unplugging the wrong cord (oops!) a simple fix instead of hours of
downtime. 

4.
Security - Since tru64 is not 'mainstream', e.g. marketed everywhere extremely
popular, intimate knowledge for hacking the os is not widely known. So obscurity
works in your favor. 

5.
Clustering technology is mature, solid and proven. 
6. tru64 is indeed a first tier platform
for Oracle. 
7. Compaq's support is rated as 'very
helpful'. 
8. tru64 has the ability to quickly clone a
filesystem. 
9. OPS can reside on a filesystem on tru64. 
10. Benchmarking Solaris E10K/64CPU against
Compaq GS-160/16CPU favored the Compaq! WOW 
11. For 9i, Oracle licensed
also the TruCluster technology from Compaq. Oracle
RAC (Real Application Cluster, new names for OPS) for 9i will only initially be
available on tru64, truly first tier. 

Caveats/
Other comments: 

1.
Sun, relying on their own proprietary hardware, may be hurting themselves in
the long run. 
2. Sun is ex-pen-sive! Compaq wins in
this comparison. 
3. The future of Sun and Compaq seems a bit
shaky right now, but they should pull through in the long run. 
4. There's a bug in tru64 that doesn't
allow one listener to service databases with different versions.
Workaround is multiple listeners (no big deal) 

5.
Oracle does develop on Sun hardware. Calling OWWS for a Solaris system
may net an answer quicker than running tru64. 

6.
Avoid the ultra sparc-2 chips from Sun. They have a problem with bad
caches causing random reboots. I saw this at a previous employer. 

7.
If it's possible, consider IBM/AIX. IBM's sales force is highly trained
in administration so you can talk real system architecture with them (not that
I'm an admin or architect, I am neither). IBM's support is also top
notch. 

Special
thanks to the following people for their responses: 

Scott
Shafer 
Ron Morton 
Lee Robertson 
Jerry Hess 
Michael Hand 
Murali Vallath 
Joe Hatchel 
Mike Kurt 
Ray Stell 
Darren Browett 
Stephen Andert 
Stefan Moeding 
And, the one and only clown Ross Mohan 

Like I
said, I'm overwhelmed at how helpful everyone is. 

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Lisa: 

How
about contributing a summary of the feedback? 

Kevin 

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I just
wanted to say thank you to everyone who responded to me when I asked 
for info on tru64 Unix. I received much
more info and feedback than I ever 
expected! 

This
list is extremely helpful and I am very appreciative of how willing 
people are to answer questions. I just
hope I contribute enough to make up 
for how much everyone here has helped me. 

HELP! 

Have a
great day, all. 

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Re: problems when running dbstart

2001-06-06 Thread Joe Raube

See

http://tahiti.oracle.com/pls/tahiti/tahiti.initora

for a list of all init params..

-Joe

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Thanks for your help, now it doesn't complain about open_links when i
rename it. Now it's problem with the max_transaktion_bransches. Should I
rename that variable too?

/Mikael

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 Hello Mikael,
 
 Rename open_link parameter in paremeter file initsid.ora or init.ora to
 open_links.
 
 Mikael Granhed wrote:
 
  Hi,
  I have oracle 8.06 installed on Sun Solaris. I have problems starting
 the
  database after a system crash and I had to reboot the system. When i run
  dbstart I got the following error message:
 
  SVRMGR connected
  SVRMGR oracle instance shut down
  SVRMGR
  Server manager complete
  ...
  ...
  ...
 
  SVRMGR connected
  SVRMGR LRM-00101: unknown parameter name 'open_link'
  ORA-01078: failure in processing system parameters
  SVRMGR server manager complete
 
  It's probably a very simple error but I'm a newbie in this area.
 
  regards
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RE: OT RE: Database writer

2001-06-06 Thread Mark Leith

Does that mean I can get a beer?

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 Paul Cantor (sp?) and Grace Slick were
the driving force..i'm impressed.

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Thought it was Paul Katner..

Oh well..

Mark

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No winner!  I drink the freaking beer all by myself. 

I think I'll pour myself a Smithwick's...somewhere in Dublin...aaa!


(Jefferson Starship)

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|| 
|| 
|| So... no winner Ross?
|| 
|| Do we get the answer??
|| 
|| 
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|| 
||  Yea, NT blows. Blows like a fresh wind against the empire. 
||  
||  
||  (1st one to name that song lyric reference and i buy you a beer. 
||   NT bigots and their families summarily excused from this offer.:)
||  
||  || -Original Message-
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||  || 
||  || Doubt, didnt' see NT, boy NT blows.
||  || 
||  || I hate how it doesn't list out the processes.
||  || 
||  || Walking on water and developing software from a 
||  || specification are easy if
||  || both are frozen.
||  || 
||  || Christopher R. Spence
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||  || Really?  On NT?
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||  || Jared
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||  || 
||  ||  Walking on water and developing software from a 
||  || specification are easy if
||  ||  both are frozen.
||  || 
||  ||  Christopher R. Spence
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||  ||  Hi all,
||  ||  I added db writer processes last week to try and 
||  || improve performance
||  ||  of one
||  ||  of my 8.1.7 db's on NT.  Does anyone know if there is a 
||  || way to see if
||  ||  Oracle actually started the additional db writer 
||  || processes?  I added
||  ||  db_writer_processes to the init file, the instance 
|| started so I am
||  || assuming
||  ||  that the db writer processes are working.  But we all know 
||  || what happens
||  ||  when we assume something.  Any ideas would be appreciated.
||  || 
||  ||  Sincerely,
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RE: problems when running dbstart

2001-06-06 Thread Mark Leith

It should be MAX_TRANSACTION_BRANCHES

Unless it is all in another language? And Oracle works with other languages?

Maybe..

Mark

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Thanks for your help, now it doesn't complain about open_links when i
rename it. Now it's problem with the max_transaktion_bransches. Should I
rename that variable too?

/Mikael

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 Hello Mikael,

 Rename open_link parameter in paremeter file initsid.ora or init.ora to
 open_links.

 Mikael Granhed wrote:

  Hi,
  I have oracle 8.06 installed on Sun Solaris. I have problems starting
 the
  database after a system crash and I had to reboot the system. When i run
  dbstart I got the following error message:
 
  SVRMGR connected
  SVRMGR oracle instance shut down
  SVRMGR
  Server manager complete
  ...
  ...
  ...
 
  SVRMGR connected
  SVRMGR LRM-00101: unknown parameter name 'open_link'
  ORA-01078: failure in processing system parameters
  SVRMGR server manager complete
 
  It's probably a very simple error but I'm a newbie in this area.
 
  regards
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RE: LOT (Little OT): Interesting Oracle related URL's.

2001-06-06 Thread Connor McDonald

Just to add

http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk

for Johnathan Lewis's excellent site

Cheers
Connor

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 IXOra.com (Steve Adam's Site)  
 http://ixora.com.au/
 
 
 Oracle Technet
 http://technet.oracle.com
 
 
 OraPub (Craig Shallahamer's Website)
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 DBA Support
 http://www.dbasupport.com/
 
 
 Thomas Kyte's Website
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 Hotsos (Cary Millsap's Site)
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 I am currently finishing off our company website,
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Re: OPS, TAF and jAVA

2001-06-06 Thread Murali Vallath


I have seen number of TAF papers on metalink and google. But wanted to get 
some user experience.

This input is great.

Thanks

Murali

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Yes.  Search on MetaLink.  Look in the Net8 docs.  There are a lot of
options and some significant constraints.  It might take a while for you to
do the research and analysis and to figure out what works best for your
system(s), running your application(s).

Attached is one paper, but don't stop with it alone.  It was simply handy,
so I attached it.  I don't remember where I got it - probably off MetaLink,
but it could be an extract from the Oracle docs.  The formatting is
butt-ugly, so it was probably a cut-and-paste deal.  I chose it to include
because it doesn't gloss over the transparent application failover bit as
much as most.  It isn't entirely transparent in all (many?) cases!  See
the section 6. Coding for Failover in the attached file.  There is some
much more detailed information on this somewhere - I just don't have it at
hand.  When I was initially researching this, I found a long daisy chain
of references on MetaLink.

You didn't mention what version of Oracle you are using - on the server or
on the client(s)!  It is important.  For example, I believe that dynamic
instance registration is only available in 8i.  Instance roles in an 8i OPS
environment may make a difference also.  The construction of the clients'
tnsnames.ora entries will likely depend on the client version as well - and
you may have several different client versions to contend with.

TAF against an OPS cluster works very well if the application is amenable
and everything is configured properly.  I have set it up so that most
connections/sessions/queries into an extremely hot OLTP system could
automagically fail over to an alternate node within 20 seconds in most
outage scenarios.  (Your mileage may vary - considerably.)

Be aware of the TCP timeout issue - as mentioned in this paper.  Tuning TCP
timeout is not an Oracle issue, it is a system issue, but if a node goes
entirely belly up, your client connections will be waiting on a TCP timeout.
Don't forget to tune and test it.

Tuning instance recovery is important to minimize the brownout period -
the time required for a surviving instance to perform instance recovery on
behalf of a failed instance and for reconfiguration of the lock table,...
This can be somewhat bounded in 8i.  There is some material on this in the
OPS manuals and in the Oracle8i Tuning manual.

Most importantly, test everything rigorously - instance failure, listener
failure, node crash, all types of clients, etc.  You don't want your
application to hang when something goes wrong on that brand new highly
available OPS system for which you just spent the big bucks!

Also, have a plan for switch-back and/or fail-back - perhaps different
mechanisms for different clients and different server-side processes.

Considering the entire processing cycle of the application is sometimes not
considered early enough in the planning.  How are cron jobs and other
batch-lookin' thingies going to behave?  How will they fail over in the
event of a prolonged node outage?  When can they switch-back to their
primary home without clobbering performance by inducing mass quantities of
OPS overhead?  How do you choreograph the entire inter-node process shifting
ballet for both fail-over and switch|fail-back?  Is there a central
autority or does each client do its own thing?  (TAF implies the latter).
What happens if there is some kind of false alarm?  (e.g. What if only
half the clients fail over - due to a localized transient network glitch
perhaps?  Does that induce extreme OPS-specific performance problems?)

I can't speak to Java.  (Heck, I can't even speak Java!)  However, there
seem to be significant differences between the TAF capabilities of thick and
thin Java since thick is (?) built on an OCI layer, but thin isn't.  (And
there can be significant differences in thick  thin compatibility/issues
with CURSOR_SHARING=FORCE!  Or so I hear.)

Thankfully, your request was quite reasonable - guidelines, concerns, tips,
etc.  I hope this helps, but it is definitely going to take some work on
your part!

I'm not trying to scare you, or anyone else, off of OPS.  I just have
visions/nightmares about what will happen when 9i (You won't need a DBA
anymore! ) and Real  Application Clusters (Easy, trouble-free parallel
server for the masses! ) hit the street!  OPS may not be rocket science,
but it isn't exacty paint by the numbers either.  And I'll wager that even
a much more user-friendly RAC still won't be, in spite any propaganda to
the contrary!

-Don Granaman
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OPS - Not just for breakfast anymore!

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  We are looking at 

stupid question about indexes and partitions

2001-06-06 Thread Joseph Testa
Ok i have a table range partitioned on date.

I have prefixed local indexes also. so far so good.

I created an index, non partitioned, using simple 

create index index_name on table(field20);

Is that now assumed to be a global index?

I can't find any docs to say one way or the other.

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TWO-TASK SERVER ????

2001-06-06 Thread Raghu Kota

Hi Friends

Iam getting this error frequently..So could you guys explain what's about 
it?? and What I need it do?? Mine is oracle8 on NT

*** 2001.06.01.19.48.37.703
*** SESSION ID:(89.7330) 2001.06.01.19.48.37.703
FATAL ERROR IN TWO-TASK SERVER: error = 12571
*** 2001.06.01.19.48.37.703
ksedmp: internal or fatal error
Current SQL information unavailable - no session.
- Call Stack Trace -

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RE: OT RE: Database writer

2001-06-06 Thread Mohan, Ross

sigh

:)

Mark, I'll be as happy as you if I can get my
stars and stripes ass over to GB and buy us
*both* a Smithwick's. 


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|| No winner!  I drink the freaking beer all by myself. 
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|| ||  ||  Hi all,
|| ||  ||  I added db writer processes last week to try and 
|| ||  || improve performance
|| ||  ||  of one
|| ||  ||  of my 8.1.7 db's on NT.  Does anyone know if there is a 
|| ||  || way to see if
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|| ||  ||  db_writer_processes to the init file, the instance 
|| || started so I am
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RE: Heads up on nasty bug on NT

2001-06-06 Thread Amar Kumar Padhi

Thanks for the input...

rgds
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Shouldn't you have just stopped at the first sentance :-))


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RE: Renaming columns ...

2001-06-06 Thread Ken . Eaton


I have done this on 8.1.6 by :
   Altering the table to add the new column;
   Copying the contents of the old column to the new one;
   Altering the table to drop the old column...






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This will work:


RENAME TABLE_NAME TO table_name_2;


create table TABLE_NAME
as select * from table_name_2;


DROP TABLE table_name_2;


Note you don't need to issue a 'commit' after after create table or drop
table.  Also, when you do create table as select from another table there
is no need to specify the columns.  The new table you created will have the
same columns as the tables you're selecting your data from.


 -Original Message-
 From: Helen rwulfjeq [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 3:45 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: RE: Renaming columns ...



 will this work?


 RENAME TABLE_NAME TO table_name_2;


 create table TABLE_NAME
 ( column_name_you_want...)
 as select * from table_name_2;
 COMMIT;


 DROP TABLE table_name_2;
 COMMIT;


 HTH


   Deshpande, Kirti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Raj,
  1. There is a way to do it. And Mr. Steve A. has some good info about
  it (
  its implications) on his web site. (Sorry I do not have a direct URL
  link to
  it). I believe this works for all versions.
  2. Yes, it does. I have played with it on my test database.

  However, I will not do this on a Production database as it involves a
  direct DML to modify sys.COL$. And Oracle does not recommend doing
  such
  things to your databases.

  I am not sure if renaming column is supported in 9i. Anyone else know
  for
  sure?

  If you are using 8i, the safe way to address this is to add a new
  column to
  the table, populate it with the contents from the old, and drop the
  old
  column. If the column is not nullable, and if there are plenty of
  nullable
  columns towards the end of the table, I suggest considering
  reorganization
  of the table. I just did that (! ! reorg) in the last couple of weeks
  with a
  60Mil row table to get the new  not nullable columns towards the
  'head' of
  the table.

  HTH,

  Regards,

  - Kirti Deshpande
  Verizon Information Services
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   Subject: Renaming columns ...
  
   Hi all,
  
   although I am searching information on Metalink and OTN, I just
  want to
   ask
   this question to the list ...
  
   1. Is it possible to rename a column? (we have lots of columns that
  need
   to
   be renamed). Which version supports it?
   2. Does renaming automatically takes care of indexes?
  
   Coding will be a lot of manual labor, but that's okay we can handle
  it.
  
   Thanks in advanc! ! e
   Raj
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Re: OT RE: SUMMARY: Thanks everyone - tru64

2001-06-06 Thread Terry Ball

Well, I'm one of the Munchkins.

Terry

Mohan, Ross wrote:


 I wonder if we on the list made our own show of Wizard of OZ
 who would be the StrawMan, TinMan, Lion, and, well...Dorothy.

 Applications are being accepted for good witch, bad witch, and
 the wizard, of course.

 I've got dibs on ToTo

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RE: SUMMARY: Thanks everyone - tru64

2001-06-06 Thread Mohan, Ross

Yea, Lisa get real.
 
Next time, don't talk to anyone or do any research. 
Just follow the party line, OK?
 
:)

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Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 10:42 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



This surely does sound the Wiz of Oz, Solaris unstable ? Tru64, get real.

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:31 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

 

According to a technical representative at Oracle in Rochester, NY, Oracle
no longer develops on Solaris.  He stated that they have changed to HP-UX
for development.  He said the reason was instability with Solaris. 

Koivu, Lisa wrote: 

  

Kevin, sure I will.  I just didn't want to muck up the list. 

Here's what I found.  If anyone has any comments to add, please do. 

My question was about the utilities across different flavors of Unix and if
they mean the same thing.  vmstat, iostat are the same, however the switches
may be a bit different.  sar is system V only.  truss you must purchase a
license for.  top is freeware.  There is a utility called 'collect' that
does something similar to top. 

The response regarding tru64 has been overwhelmingly positive.  Some of the
positive comments I received: 

1.  C compiler (Kernighan and Richie) is not ANSI compliant and may affect
any 3rd party apps. 
2.  Compaq hardware used to be lagging in Oracle (Apps) patch releases.  Not
anymore. 
3.  The journaling filesystem makes mistakes like unplugging the wrong cord
(oops!) a simple fix instead of hours of downtime. 

4.  Security - Since tru64 is not 'mainstream', e.g. marketed everywhere
extremely popular, intimate knowledge for hacking the os is not widely
known.  So obscurity works in your favor. 

5.  Clustering technology is mature, solid and proven. 
6.  tru64 is indeed a first tier platform for Oracle. 
7.  Compaq's support is rated as 'very helpful'. 
8.  tru64 has the ability to quickly clone a filesystem. 
9.  OPS can reside on a filesystem on tru64. 
10.  Benchmarking Solaris E10K/64CPU against Compaq GS-160/16CPU favored the
Compaq!  WOW 
11.  For 9i, Oracle licensed also the TruCluster technology from Compaq.
Oracle RAC (Real Application Cluster, new names for OPS) for 9i will only
initially be available on tru64, truly first tier. 

Caveats/ Other comments: 

1.  Sun, relying on their own proprietary hardware, may be hurting
themselves in the long run. 
2.  Sun is ex-pen-sive!  Compaq wins in this comparison. 
3.  The future of Sun and Compaq seems a bit shaky right now, but they
should pull through in the long run. 
4.  There's a bug in tru64 that doesn't allow one listener to service
databases with different versions.  Workaround is multiple listeners (no big
deal) 

5.  Oracle does develop on Sun hardware.  Calling OWWS for a Solaris system
may net an answer quicker than running tru64. 

6.  Avoid the ultra sparc-2 chips from Sun.  They have a problem with bad
caches causing random reboots.  I saw this at a previous employer. 

7.  If it's possible, consider IBM/AIX.  IBM's sales force is highly trained
in administration so you can talk real system architecture with them (not
that I'm an admin or architect, I am neither).  IBM's support is also top
notch. 

Special thanks to the following people for their responses: 

Scott Shafer 
Ron Morton 
Lee Robertson 
Jerry Hess 
Michael Hand 
Murali Vallath 
Joe Hatchel 
Mike Kurt 
Ray Stell 
Darren Browett 
Stephen Andert 
Stefan Moeding 
And, the one and only clown  Ross Mohan 

Like I said, I'm overwhelmed at how helpful everyone is. 

-Original Message- 
Sent:   Tuesday, June 05, 2001 12:02 PM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 

Lisa: 

How about contributing a summary of the feedback? 

Kevin 

-Original Message- 
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 11:37 AM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  

I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who responded to me when I asked 
for info on tru64 Unix.  I received much more info and feedback than I ever 
expected! 

This list is extremely helpful and I am very appreciative of how willing 
people are to answer questions.  I just hope I contribute enough to make up 
for how much everyone here has helped me. 

HELP! 

Have a great day, all. 

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Re: Heads up on nasty bug on NT

2001-06-06 Thread Nuno Souto

I know it sounds AOL-ish, but:

Ditto!

Cheers
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RE: stupid question about indexes and partitions

2001-06-06 Thread Toepke, Kevin M

Joe :
 
You probably know some of this already, but here is a summary of indexes on
partitioned tables
* Local indexes are just indexes that are equi-partitioned with the table
* Local prefixed indexes have the partition columns as the leading
column(s) in the index
* Local non-prefixed indexes do not
* Global indexes are indexes that are not equi-partitioned with the table
* Global partitioned indexes are partitioned, but differently than the
talbe
* Global non-partitioned indexes are not partitioned.
 
It looks like you have a global non-partitioned index there.
 
Kevin

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Ok i have a table range partitioned on date.
 
I have prefixed local indexes also.  so far so good.
 
I created an index, non partitioned, using simple 
 
create index index_name on table(field20);
 
Is that now assumed to be a global index?
 
I can't find any docs to say one way or the other.
 
thanks, joe
 

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RE: Heads up on nasty bug on NT

2001-06-06 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

Anita, 
 
 Thank you so much for this info. 
   
 Cheers!
- Kirti 

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 From: A. Bardeen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 6:56 AM
 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:  Heads up on nasty bug on NT
 
 Hi all!
 
 Just a warning for those of you running Oracle on NT.
 
 There's an extremely nasty bug specific to 8.1.6/8.1.7
 on NT/Win2K (not sure if it affects 8.1.5) where a
 datafile that is resize or autoextended exactly on a
 4GB boundary cannot be resized.  Bug 1668488.
 
 Options:
 
 1.  PITR prior to when the datafile extended
 
 2.  Force the db open (requires full db export and
 rebuild).  
 
 3.  Clone a subset of the db containing the corrupted
 datafile(s), force it open, export affected
 tablespaces and import them into the original db.
 
 4.  Drop the corrupted datafiles to open the db and
 then drop the tablespace to which the datafiles
 belong.
 
 Options 2  3 can result in logical corruption as
 there's no way to rollback any uncommitted
 transactions that have already been forced to disk.
 
 Bug is not fixed in 8.1.6; it's scheduled for the
 8.1.7.2 patchset.
 
 Those of you with autoextend on your datafiles should
 modify the maxsize to be less than 4GB or turn off
 autoextend.
 
 HTH,
 
 -- Anita
 
 
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Can the initABCD.ora file be changed during an RMAN migration

2001-06-06 Thread Chris Rezek

Is there any reason I should not modify the parameter file AFTER I copy
it to the new host but BEFORE I restore the controlfile, datafiles,
etc.?

We are planning to move our database from one SPARC/Solaris box to
another.  Since the file system, operating system, and Oracle version
(8.1.6) will be identical I figured that using Recovery Manager to do
the migration would be best.  The first step (after installing Oracle)
is to copy the parameter file to the new host.  There are a few changes
I have been wanting to make to the parameter file but have not because
it would require bouncing the database.  I know I don't want to change
db_block_size - but what else should I not change?

Chris Rezek
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RE: Trouble.. Standby Database. Urgent!!

2001-06-06 Thread Kevin Lange



We use 
standby databases as well and our method is prety muc as yours is. So, my 
biggest question is . is that the correct directory for the Archive Files 
??? and did you actually copy the files to that directory ?? "D:\ORACLE\ORA81\DATABASE\ARCHIVE" It seems a straight 
forward error  it can't find the file ARC00505.001 in the above 
directory. 

It 
does not say the file is corrupt or mangled in any way . just that it can 
not find it.

Definitely check the archive log destination parameter and make sure it 
is set to what you wanted.

  -Original Message-From: Saurabh Sharma 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 3:21 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Trouble.. Standby Database. Urgent!!
  hi all,
  
  I need ur help urgently. i've 
  created a standby database with the below mentioned steps..
  
  1. copied consistent backup of 
  datafiles folder to standby site.
  2. created standby control file 
  and sent to target location.
  3. switch logfile current and 
  copied to target.
  4. copied init.ora and changed 
  parameters for standby.
  
  at the standby site.
  1. startup 
  nomount   
  
  ok
  2. alter database mount standby 
  database. ok
  3. recover standby 
  database
   ... this last 
  recovery statement is giving lot of msgs like..log applied..
   then same 
  logfile not needed for this recovery.
   can not open 
  file..etc.
  
  I'm copying the archived log from 
  primary to standby standby_archive_dest location.
  here are the actual errors..
  
  SVRMGR recover standby 
  database;ORA-00279: change 708915 generated at 06/06/01 12:19:56 needed 
  for thread 1ORA-00289: suggestion : 
  D:\ORACLE\ORA81\DATABASE\ARCHIVE\ARC00505.001ORA-00280: change 708915 for 
  thread 1 is in sequence #505Specify log: {RET=suggested | 
  filename | AUTO | CANCEL}autoORA-00308: cannot open archived log 
  'D:\ORACLE\ORA81\DATABASE\ARCHIVE\ARC00505.001ORA-27041: unable to open 
  fileOSD-04002: unable to open fileO/S-Error: (OS 2) The system cannot 
  find the file specified.
  
  
  has anybody any idea of what's 
  causing this problem. what i feel is there i may have wrongly configured the 
  standby_archive_dest in init.ora at standby.
  
  any help is greatly 
  appreciated.
  
  thanks.
  
  saurabh sharma
  


RE: SUMMARY: Thanks everyone - tru64

2001-06-06 Thread Mohan, Ross

Well, that certainly matches my recent experience. 
 
I know of more than one very large customer having 
trouble with Sun and another large academic site
who swapped 80-odd sun servers for AIX.
 
Makes NT look more and more like the dot in dot com
everyday. EG

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


According to a technical representative at Oracle in Rochester, NY, Oracle
no longer develops on Solaris.  He stated that they have changed to HP-UX
for development.  He said the reason was instability with Solaris. 

Koivu, Lisa wrote: 


  

Kevin, sure I will.  I just didn't want to muck up the list. 


Here's what I found.  If anyone has any comments to add, please do. 


My question was about the utilities across different flavors of Unix and if
they mean the same thing.  vmstat, iostat are the same, however the switches
may be a bit different.  sar is system V only.  truss you must purchase a
license for.  top is freeware.  There is a utility called 'collect' that
does something similar to top. 


The response regarding tru64 has been overwhelmingly positive.  Some of the
positive comments I received: 


1.  C compiler (Kernighan and Richie) is not ANSI compliant and may affect
any 3rd party apps. 
2.  Compaq hardware used to be lagging in Oracle (Apps) patch releases.  Not
anymore. 
3.  The journaling filesystem makes mistakes like unplugging the wrong cord
(oops!) a simple fix instead of hours of downtime. 


4.  Security - Since tru64 is not 'mainstream', e.g. marketed everywhere
extremely popular, intimate knowledge for hacking the os is not widely
known.  So obscurity works in your favor. 


5.  Clustering technology is mature, solid and proven. 
6.  tru64 is indeed a first tier platform for Oracle. 
7.  Compaq's support is rated as 'very helpful'. 
8.  tru64 has the ability to quickly clone a filesystem. 
9.  OPS can reside on a filesystem on tru64. 
10.  Benchmarking Solaris E10K/64CPU against Compaq GS-160/16CPU favored the
Compaq!  WOW 
11.  For 9i, Oracle licensed also the TruCluster technology from Compaq.
Oracle RAC (Real Application Cluster, new names for OPS) for 9i will only
initially be available on tru64, truly first tier. 


Caveats/ Other comments: 


1.  Sun, relying on their own proprietary hardware, may be hurting
themselves in the long run. 
2.  Sun is ex-pen-sive!  Compaq wins in this comparison. 
3.  The future of Sun and Compaq seems a bit shaky right now, but they
should pull through in the long run. 
4.  There's a bug in tru64 that doesn't allow one listener to service
databases with different versions.  Workaround is multiple listeners (no big
deal) 


5.  Oracle does develop on Sun hardware.  Calling OWWS for a Solaris system
may net an answer quicker than running tru64. 


6.  Avoid the ultra sparc-2 chips from Sun.  They have a problem with bad
caches causing random reboots.  I saw this at a previous employer. 


7.  If it's possible, consider IBM/AIX.  IBM's sales force is highly trained
in administration so you can talk real system architecture with them (not
that I'm an admin or architect, I am neither).  IBM's support is also top
notch. 


Special thanks to the following people for their responses: 


Scott Shafer 
Ron Morton 
Lee Robertson 
Jerry Hess 
Michael Hand 
Murali Vallath 
Joe Hatchel 
Mike Kurt 
Ray Stell 
Darren Browett 
Stephen Andert 
Stefan Moeding 
And, the one and only clown  Ross Mohan 


Like I said, I'm overwhelmed at how helpful everyone is. 


-Original Message- 
Sent:   Tuesday, June 05, 2001 12:02 PM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 

Lisa: 


How about contributing a summary of the feedback? 


Kevin 


-Original Message- 
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 11:37 AM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  


I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who responded to me when
I asked 
for info on tru64 Unix.  I received much more info and feedback than I ever 
expected! 


This list is extremely helpful and I am very appreciative of how
willing 
people are to answer questions.  I just hope I contribute enough to make up 
for how much everyone here has helped me. 


HELP! 


Have a great day, all. 


Lisa Koivu 
Oracle Database Administrator 
954-935-4117 


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Re: organizational culture / RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-06 Thread Jared Still


Well it is dependent on the type of game, I admit.

Mladen is a (large) former Greco Roman wrestler,
so if it's physical, he's got a good chance.

Jared


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 -On Tuesday 05 June 2001 11:13, Post, Ethan wrote:
 - I say we all go to Steve's house and play a game of Survivor to see
 who - the most powerfull DBA in the world is.
 -  ^^
 -
 -Mladen would win.
 -
 -Jared
 -
 -
 that would depend on the game of survivor we played.;-)  i do admit to
 having soem experience at it.;-)

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PATROL Availability Suite for Oracle

2001-06-06 Thread O'Neill, Sean

Would appreciate feedback positive and/or negative from anyone who is using
PATROL Availability Suite for Oracle.  And if ye had a look but decided
against it why?.


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RE: Oracle price politics

2001-06-06 Thread Christopher Spence

They can cut 80% and it would still be expensive.

But it is nice to see they are finally getting some brains.  Yeah, I think
Oracle should always be expensive, but ludicrus is just not acceptable,
specially when they are KILLING their main partner (Sun).   Sun is laying
off the ENTIRE company but upper managment for 1 week, all travel expenses
need to be pre-approved, and their standard hiring freeze.

Yes, I think the market is hurting a little right now, but if you got a
product (Sun and Oracle both do) it is your marketing and pricing that will
make it much more difficult.

It is like the old theory, I got 100 apples, I can sell them at $2 a piece
and sell 20 of them.  Or I can sell them for $1 and sell all of them.  When
you get apples for $.50 both are profitable, just one is better.


Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

Christopher R. Spence
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--- Forwarded Message Follows ---

ERPcentral - http://www.erpcentral.com

Oracle slashes prices in Japan. Global cuts next?
http://www.erpcentral.com 
cw360.com June 4, 2001
Oracle could be on the verge of announcing significant price cuts around
the world after its Japanese operation slashed database prices this week.
The company is refusing to comment on speculation, saying chief executive
officer Larry Ellison will be making a major pricing announcement to
coincide with the launch of the 9i database at Oracle OpenWorld later this
month.

Oracle confronts pricing, user issues
http://www.erpcentral.com
Computerworld June 4, 2001
Cuts pricing in Japan Dan Verton, Computerworld Oracle Corp.'s Japanese
unit last week slashed prices for the company's database software by 25
percent and increased volume discounts to 35 percent, raising hopes among
U.S. users that the cuts herald lower prices here.



Street Fight: Oracle
http://www.erpcentral.com 
Forbes.com, June 4, 2001
With sagging earnings and lack of guidance for its soon-to-be-announced
fourth quarter, Oracle has been slapped with no less than nine analyst
downgrades since early March. Shares of the database software provider
have dropped 67% from their 52-week high, giving the stock a latest
12-month price-to-earnings ratio of just 14. Is it time to buy America's
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Hi,

Few days ago someone posted a link to a newsletter about the slashing of
the prices of Oracle products in Japan and that Larry Ellison would
announce price reductions that will apply worldwide. Someone can send me
the link ??

TIA,
Antonio Belloni

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RE: OT RE: SUMMARY: Thanks everyone - tru64

2001-06-06 Thread Kevin Kostyszyn

I think that Ross should be the lion!  hhehehhehehe whoo hoo

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Well, I'm one of the Munchkins.

Terry

Mohan, Ross wrote:


 I wonder if we on the list made our own show of Wizard of OZ
 who would be the StrawMan, TinMan, Lion, and, well...Dorothy.

 Applications are being accepted for good witch, bad witch, and
 the wizard, of course.

 I've got dibs on ToTo

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 Cc: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Sent: 6/6/2001 8:03 AM

 On Tue, 5 Jun 2001,Mohan, Ross scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

 -I AM AN IDIOT

 HOLD IT!  that's *my* job on this list, thank you.  i've worked long and
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RE: problems when running dbstart

2001-06-06 Thread Kimberly Smith

Off the top of my head I would say that you have a parameter
called open_link in your init which is not valid.

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Hi,
I have oracle 8.06 installed on Sun Solaris. I have problems starting the
database after a system crash and I had to reboot the system. When i run
dbstart I got the following error message:

SVRMGR connected
SVRMGR oracle instance shut down
SVRMGR
Server manager complete
...
...
...

SVRMGR connected
SVRMGR LRM-00101: unknown parameter name 'open_link'
ORA-01078: failure in processing system parameters
SVRMGR server manager complete


It's probably a very simple error but I'm a newbie in this area.


regards
/Mikael
 
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RE: OT RE: SUMMARY: Thanks everyone - tru64

2001-06-06 Thread Mohan, Ross

I'll be riding in yer basket, Mark. 

EG


Arf, Arf.

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|| Can I be Dorothy? :-
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|| I wonder if we on the list made our own show of Wizard of OZ
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|| 
|| Applications are being accepted for good witch, bad witch, and
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|| I've got dibs on ToTo
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RE: dbms_utility.analyze_schema OR dbms_stats ?

2001-06-06 Thread Toepke, Kevin M

All:

From reading the release notes for 9i it appears that ANALYZE table and
DBMS_UTILITY.ANALYZE_SCHEMA are desupported in 9i. The only supported way to
generate stats in 9i is DBMS_STATS.

In addition, DBMS_STATS can generate stats for tables in parallel and make
use of the new MONITORING feature to only generate stats on tables with
stale statistics.

In addition, do not mix calls. Use one or the other. According to the Docs,
ANALYZE can not delete and does not overwrite some stats generated by
DBMS_STATS and vise versa. I have run into the situation where calls where
mixed and got really strange results until stats were deleted using both
methods and regenerated.

Kevin

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Oracle 8.1.7
AIX 4.3.3

I looked at the docs and it appears Oracle wants you to use dbms_stats to
generate statistics for cbo.  I am currently using
dbms_utility.analyze_schema.  

Should I change to dbms_stats (i know it doesnt give you chained rows, avg
free space, # of unused blocks)?  Are there any advantages over
dbms_utility.analyze_schema?

What does everyone here use to generate their stats?

Thanks.
Gene

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RE: OT RE: Database writer

2001-06-06 Thread Mark Leith

You need to apply for the UKOUG, and get your Co. to do it on expenses :)
Birmingham is the second capital of England - and the ICC is not a bad
venue - especially when you are in the Hilton that is joined next door by a
bridge over Broad Street (a great place for pubs). I remember one year
practically crawling over that bridge after the mid week bash! Oh what fun..

I'm more of a lager drinker oO(or is that iza laaager drinku) though, so
you can buy me a Stella :)

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lyris


sigh

:)

Mark, I'll be as happy as you if I can get my
stars and stripes ass over to GB and buy us
*both* a Smithwick's.


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|| To: Lyris; Mohan, Ross
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||
||
|| Does that mean I can get a beer?
||
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|| To: 'Mark Leith '; 'Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L '
|| Subject: RE: OT RE: Database writer
||
||
||  Paul Cantor (sp?) and Grace Slick were
|| the driving force..i'm impressed.
||
|| -Original Message-
|| From: Mark Leith
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| Sent: 6/6/2001 5:41 AM
|| Subject: RE: OT RE: Database writer
||
|| Thought it was Paul Katner..
||
|| Oh well..
||
|| Mark
||
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|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
||
||
|| No winner!  I drink the freaking beer all by myself.
||
|| I think I'll pour myself a Smithwick's...somewhere in
|| Dublin...aaa!
||
||
|| (Jefferson Starship)
||
|| || -Original Message-
|| || From: Jerry C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|| || Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 11:32 AM
|| || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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|| ||
|| ||
|| || So... no winner Ross?
|| ||
|| || Do we get the answer??
|| ||
|| ||
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|| ||
|| ||  Yea, NT blows. Blows like a fresh wind against the empire.
|| || 
|| || 
|| ||  (1st one to name that song lyric reference and i buy
|| you a beer.
|| ||   NT bigots and their families summarily excused from
|| this offer.:)
|| || 
|| ||  || -Original Message-
|| ||  || From: Christopher Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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|| ||  ||
|| ||  ||
|| ||  || Doubt, didnt' see NT, boy NT blows.
|| ||  ||
|| ||  || I hate how it doesn't list out the processes.
|| ||  ||
|| ||  || Walking on water and developing software from a
|| ||  || specification are easy if
|| ||  || both are frozen.
|| ||  ||
|| ||  || Christopher R. Spence
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|| ||  ||
|| ||  ||
|| ||  ||
|| ||  || -Original Message-
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|| ||  ||
|| ||  || On Monday 04 June 2001 10:16, Christopher Spence wrote:
|| ||  ||  Look under ps.
|| ||  ||
|| ||  || Really?  On NT?
|| ||  ||
|| ||  || Jared
|| ||  ||
|| ||  || 
|| ||  ||  Walking on water and developing software from a
|| ||  || specification are easy if
|| ||  ||  both are frozen.
|| ||  || 
|| ||  ||  Christopher R. Spence
|| ||  ||  Oracle DBA
|| ||  ||  Fuelspot
|| ||  || 
|| ||  || 
|| ||  || 
|| ||  ||  -Original Message-
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|| ||  || 
|| ||  ||  Hi all,
|| ||  ||  I added db writer processes last week to try and
|| ||  || improve performance
|| ||  ||  of one
|| ||  ||  of my 8.1.7 db's on NT.  Does anyone know if there is a
|| ||  || way to see if
|| ||  ||  Oracle actually started the additional db writer
|| ||  || processes?  I added
|| ||  ||  db_writer_processes to the init file, the instance
|| || started so I am
|| ||  || assuming
|| ||  ||  that the db writer processes are working.  But we all know
|| ||  || what happens
|| ||  ||  when we assume something.  Any ideas would be appreciated.
|| ||  || 
|| ||  ||  Sincerely,
|| ||  ||  Kevin Kostyszyn
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RE: Spotlite question

2001-06-06 Thread Kimberly Smith

I have it monitoring a NT database but can't get OS stats from it.
Of course they could just put it sucks on the page and that would
be enough for me.  

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Ron,

I wasn't confusing the server and client information - it was just that
there web page is out of date regarding supported servers.

Kevin pointed me in the correct direction - Oracle running on an NT server
is supported.

This is indicated in the readme file you get when you download the trial.

Regards,
Bruce

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I think you are confusing the Server and the Client information. The client
that runs the Spotlite has to be Windows 95/98/2000/NT. 
 I have Spotlite monitoring a Novell server. I worked with the spotlite
development team for release 2.c that limited the trace file naming
convention to 8 char. It works great.
From my pc Win 98 I can monitor the production database and development
database (Novell) and a test server (Linux)
ROR mª¿ªm

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Nick,

Does spotlight support an Oracle server running on NT?

The requirements page says:

Server
Oracle versions from 7.3.3 and above 
Solaris (2.5, 2.6, 2.7) 
HP-UX (10.20, 11.00/32 bit, 11.00/64 bit) 
AIX (4.2, 4.3) 
Digital (v4.0d, v4.0f)   

which seems to me to say the Oracle server must be running on Unix and not
NT.

but then the PDF data sheet says 


Spotlight requires Windows 95/98/2000/NT and a SQL*Net connection to any
Oracle server (7.3.3 or greater)


Which is correct?

Thanks,
Bruce Reardon
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you can download a free fully functional trial version of Spotlight on
Oracle from the Quest Website at http://www.quest.com/spotlight_oracle/ 
there is a link to 'download trial' on the left hand side.  You can click on
the screenshot to get  a full size image... but it will tell you everything
you need to know about your instance... and what init.ora parameters you can
change to improve it. 
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RE: stupid question about indexes and partitions

2001-06-06 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

Hi Joe,
 Here is a blurb from the 8.1.6 Concepts Guide (Chapter 11, under 'Prefixed
and Nonprefixed Global Partitioned Indexes'):
 
'Nonpartitioned indexes are treated as global prefixed nonpartitioned
indexes'

 I ran into the same stupid question not too long ago. 

HTH,

Regards

- Kirti 

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 Subject:  stupid question about indexes and partitions
 
 Ok i have a table range partitioned on date.
  
 I have prefixed local indexes also.  so far so good.
  
 I created an index, non partitioned, using simple 
  
 create index index_name on table(field20);
  
 Is that now assumed to be a global index?
  
 I can't find any docs to say one way or the other.
  
 thanks, joe
  
 
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Re: Shared Pool info - V$sqlarea.

2001-06-06 Thread Mogens Nørgaard

He also gave the presentation at the IOUG-A in Orlando recently, so it
should be available from their CD's/archives or whatever. It's a neat
presentation. Way too many people and monitoring products want you do keep
increasing db_block_buffers until your BCHR is about 99.9% or so. It's
pure nonsense, of course.

Once I worked on a large SAP site, where the SAP Early Watch kept saying
the problems in the system were due to the BCHR being too low. That went
on for a few months while performance became progressivly worse. When the
customer passed the 1G mark (for the buffer cache alone) they called
me/Premium Services and the wait interface showed all the wait time to be
with the free buffer waits event, meaning the DBWR couldn't keep up (no
async IO, therefor making the buffer cache bigger made the problem bigger,
etc.). We set up multiple database writers to simulate async IO (long
story) and it all worked nicely...

This is not to say anything bad about Early Watch, but to say something
bad about the ratio-based/checklist tuning method :-))).

A. Bardeen wrote:

 Raj,

 One statement caught my eye:
   The buffer cache hit ratio is 99%

 My bet is you've got some very inefficent SQL.  As is
 typically the case, application tuning has the biggest
 effect on performance.

 I'd suggest checking out Cary Millsap's excellent
 paper Why 99% Database Buffer Cache Hit Ratio is NOT
 Ok (available with free registration):
   http://www.hotsos.com/catalog/mtime.html

 HTH,

 -- Anita

 --- Raj Gopalan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Thanks Chris.
 
  The problem I am facing is 100% CPU usage and memory
  paging out at times. I
  tought the starting point is v$sqlarea. Purchasing
  of Precise SQL or SQL
  Vision can not happen here immediately. The RAM size
  is 512MB and SGA is
  210MB. The buffer cache hit ratio is 99%.
 
  I was just wondering is there any way to find out
  the cause of this problem?
 
  TIA
 
  Cheers
 
  Raj
 
  -Original Message-
  Sent: 01 June 2001 19:51
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
  Oracle has no guarentee how long statistics and
  plans will be available for
  statements, depending on the activity of the
  database they may be there for
  2 seconds they may be there for 2 weeks.
 
  Products like Precise SQL and SQL Vision Lab help in
  that manor where they
  capture transactions and activity continuously in a
  non-intrusive manor.
  This is the only guarenteed way to get 99.999% of
  the transactions.
 
 
  Walking on water and developing software from a
  specification are easy if
  both are frozen.
 
  Christopher R. Spence
  Oracle DBA
  Fuelspot
 
 
 
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  DBAs
 
  The statistics in v$sqlarea is getting flushed very
  often.
 
  In the morning I found the a query which has more
  than 10,000 disk reads as
  the top one. But now the top most query with disk
  reads has not more than
  100 disk reads. I have not bouncd the DB or flushed
  the shared pool. The
  overall library cache hit ratio is 97%.where us
  SQLAREA hit ratio is 60%.
 
  Any Idea what could be reason?
 
  TIA,
 
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RE: SUMMARY: Thanks everyone - tru64

2001-06-06 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

My question is, if they are developing on HP-UX, why was 9i for SPARC
released first?


Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

Systems Admin  Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
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According to a technical representative at Oracle in Rochester, NY,
Oracle
no longer develops on Solaris.  He stated that they have changed to
HP-UX
for development.  He said the reason was instability with Solaris. 

Koivu, Lisa wrote: 

  

Kevin, sure I will.  I just didn't want to muck up the list. 

Here's what I found.  If anyone has any comments to add, please do. 

My question was about the utilities across different flavors of Unix
and if
they mean the same thing.  vmstat, iostat are the same, however the
switches
may be a bit different.  sar is system V only.  truss you must
purchase a
license for.  top is freeware.  There is a utility called 'collect'
that
does something similar to top. 

The response regarding tru64 has been overwhelmingly positive.  Some
of the
positive comments I received: 

1.  C compiler (Kernighan and Richie) is not ANSI compliant and may
affect
any 3rd party apps. 
2.  Compaq hardware used to be lagging in Oracle (Apps) patch
releases.  Not
anymore. 
3.  The journaling filesystem makes mistakes like unplugging the
wrong cord
(oops!) a simple fix instead of hours of downtime. 

4.  Security - Since tru64 is not 'mainstream', e.g. marketed
everywhere
extremely popular, intimate knowledge for hacking the os is not
widely
known.  So obscurity works in your favor. 

5.  Clustering technology is mature, solid and proven. 
6.  tru64 is indeed a first tier platform for Oracle. 
7.  Compaq's support is rated as 'very helpful'. 
8.  tru64 has the ability to quickly clone a filesystem. 
9.  OPS can reside on a filesystem on tru64. 
10.  Benchmarking Solaris E10K/64CPU against Compaq GS-160/16CPU
favored the
Compaq!  WOW 
11.  For 9i, Oracle licensed also the TruCluster technology from
Compaq.
Oracle RAC (Real Application Cluster, new names for OPS) for 9i will
only
initially be available on tru64, truly first tier. 

Caveats/ Other comments: 

1.  Sun, relying on their own proprietary hardware, may be hurting
themselves in the long run. 
2.  Sun is ex-pen-sive!  Compaq wins in this comparison. 
3.  The future of Sun and Compaq seems a bit shaky right now, but
they
should pull through in the long run. 
4.  There's a bug in tru64 that doesn't allow one listener to
service
databases with different versions.  Workaround is multiple listeners
(no big
deal) 

5.  Oracle does develop on Sun hardware.  Calling OWWS for a Solaris
system
may net an answer quicker than running tru64. 

6.  Avoid the ultra sparc-2 chips from Sun.  They have a problem
with bad
caches causing random reboots.  I saw this at a previous employer. 

7.  If it's possible, consider IBM/AIX.  IBM's sales force is highly
trained
in administration so you can talk real system architecture with them
(not
that I'm an admin or architect, I am neither).  IBM's support is
also top
notch. 

Special thanks to the following people for their responses: 

Scott Shafer 
Ron Morton 
Lee Robertson 
Jerry Hess 
Michael Hand 
Murali Vallath 
Joe Hatchel 
Mike Kurt 
Ray Stell 
Darren Browett 
Stephen Andert 
Stefan Moeding 
And, the one and only clown  Ross Mohan 

Like I said, I'm overwhelmed at how helpful everyone is. 

-Original Message- 
Sent:   Tuesday, June 05, 2001 12:02 PM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 

Lisa: 

How about contributing a summary of the feedback? 

Kevin 

-Original Message- 
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 11:37 AM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  

I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who responded to me when
I asked 
for info on tru64 Unix.  I received much more info and feedback than
I ever 
expected! 

This list is extremely helpful and I am very appreciative of how
willing 
people are to answer questions.  I just hope I contribute enough to
make up 
for how much 

RE: OT RE: SUMMARY: Thanks everyone - tru64

2001-06-06 Thread A. Bardeen

Damn!  You beat me to it!

-- Anita

--- April Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:41 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Can I try out for a flying monkey role! :o)
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:11 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
  
 I wonder if we on the list made our own show of
 Wizard of OZ
 who would be the StrawMan, TinMan, Lion, and,
 well...Dorothy. 
 
 Applications are being accepted for good witch, bad
 witch, and
 the wizard, of course. 
 
 I've got dibs on ToTo
 
 
 
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 Cc: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Sent: 6/6/2001 8:03 AM
 
 On Tue, 5 Jun 2001,Mohan, Ross scribbled on the wall
 in glitter crayon:
 
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 HOLD IT!  that's *my* job on this list, thank you. 
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OT WAS: SUMMARY: Thanks everyone - tru64

2001-06-06 Thread Scott . Shafer

Only if the story line matches up to Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon as
well as the original WoZ...  Careful taking the bad witch part - monkeys may
have to fly out of your butt!

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
210-581-6217

And no amount of training or preparedness can eliminate the almost
certainty that in the middle of your Angry Crane stance, as you transition
to your Combative Monkey to administer the Coup de Grâce via your Ninja
Death Touch, you step on a beer bottle and fall backwards into the juke box
and get your head stove in by a drunk with a pool cue.  --Jay Trigg


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 I wonder if we on the list made our own show of Wizard of OZ
 who would be the StrawMan, TinMan, Lion, and, well...Dorothy. 
 
 Applications are being accepted for good witch, bad witch, and
 the wizard, of course. 
 
 I've got dibs on ToTo
 
 
 
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 Cc: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Sent: 6/6/2001 8:03 AM
 
 On Tue, 5 Jun 2001,Mohan, Ross scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
 
 -I AM AN IDIOT
 
 HOLD IT!  that's *my* job on this list, thank you.  i've worked long and
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RE: How to identify sql texts which are having open cursor?

2001-06-06 Thread Daemen, Remco

How about

sys.V_$OPEN_CURSOR

to get the SIDs, and then try to get the query they are executing ?

HTH,  Remco

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
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Verzonden: woensdag 6 juni 2001 0:14
Aan: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Onderwerp: How to identify sql texts which are having open cursor?


Our application is using up open_cursor limits of 500.
We are suspecting that application code written in
Java
are not closing cursors explicitly. 
Is there a way to idntify those sql code which are not
closing cursor?
We just don't want to increase open_cursor parameter
in init.ora and bounce the db without identifying sql.


HTH,
Shantanu

--- Kirsh, Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jared,
 
 I think that the default java_pool_size is 20M, not
 30M.
 
 Gary
 
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 4:01 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 
 Take a look at the SGA with:
 
 select * from v$sgastat
 order by 1,2;
 
 You will likely see 30M dedicated to the
 java pool, as that is the default.  This
 can be cut back substantially if you are
 not making use of java.
 
 Jared
 
 
 On Tuesday 05 June 2001 05:01, C.S.Venkata
 Subramanian wrote:
  One of my co-worker came with this ques. In the
 init.ora file he had set
  the shared_pool_size to 10M and
 db_block_buffers=1024 and redolog buffer
 to
  32768. but when he did sho sga in the sql*plus
 prompt he got the following
  output
 
  Total System Global Area   41297948 bytes
  Fixed Size75804 bytes
  Variable Size  32755712 bytes
  Database Buffers8388608 bytes
  Redo Buffers  77824 bytes
 
  Doing a select on V$SGA also gave the same result.
 
  My shared pool size is only 10M, why it is showing
 nearly 40M. From where
  did oracle derive the extra MB's? I ran throu the
 oracle manual and got
  only answer for database buffers.
 
  Can any one tell from where these extra MB's come
 to Oracle from the OS.
 
  TIA
 
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Re: dbms_utility.analyze_schema OR dbms_stats ?

2001-06-06 Thread Connor McDonald

As far as I can work out, DBMS_STATS is purely for
optimizer decisions (presumably thats why they didn't
call it DBMS_ANALYZE).

(If you believe the doco) you can get faster and
better stats with DBMS_STATS (particularly in terms of
partition-wise stats).  

I'm using both at the moment, in my case, a weekly
dbms_stats to help the optimiser, and a monthly
analyze to help me (chain rows etc etc).

hth
connor

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Oracle 8.1.7
 AIX 4.3.3
 
 I looked at the docs and it appears Oracle wants you
 to use dbms_stats to generate statistics for cbo.  I
 am currently using dbms_utility.analyze_schema.  
 
 Should I change to dbms_stats (i know it doesnt give
 you chained rows, avg free space, # of unused
 blocks)?  Are there any advantages over
 dbms_utility.analyze_schema?
 
 What does everyone here use to generate their stats?
 
 Thanks.
 Gene
 
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What stands for i in Oracle 8i

2001-06-06 Thread Muthaiah

Hi,

I am just curious about to know for what that i
 stands for in Oracle 8i.

Can any one shed some light?

Thanks,

Muths

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RE: OT RE: SUMMARY: Thanks everyone - tru64

2001-06-06 Thread Jim Hawkins

I don't really care who's what, as long as I can still play Pink 
Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon to it.

But since we're lobbying for parts, I guess I'll audition for the Tin Man 
due to his lack of heart ;)

Jim

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