Re: [osdcmy-public] Android running on iPhone!

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

android on china blueberry ?



On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:04 PM, mohd fenris  wrote:

> Cool n nice info . Thanks dude
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 2, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar 
> wrote:
>
> >
> http://linuxoniphone.blogspot.com/2010/04/ive-been-working-on-this-quietly-in.html
> >
> > Everybody especially with iphone 3g/3gs please contribute your finding
> > to http://www.idroidproject.org/wiki and
> > http://www.idroidproject.org/forum/
> > much appreciate it. Let's hack!
> >
> >
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> > Get FireGPG for your Firefox! http://getfiregpg.org
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Visit by Adaxa team to Malaysia

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

can we have them participate in the malaysia open source conference ? which
will be held end of june 2010.

the call for papers is here :
http://conf.oss.my/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=47:call-for-paperparticipation-for-malaysia-open-source-conference-2010



On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 10:11 AM, red1  wrote:

> Dear all,
> I was just on Skype with Adaxa Australia (http://www.adaxa.com.au/) which
> is a prominent ADempiere partner with such reference site as
> http://www.intouchdirect.com.au/
> Steven Sackett, its senior partner and financials expert with extensive
> experience is producing a whitepaper on the reference project and will be
> willing to visit Malaysia and speak with those of similar interest in
> looking at ADempiere Open Source ERP in high-worth sector practice and
> comparison with other proprietary or commercial open source solutions.
>
> Would any party here be interested? If so please contact me directly and we
> try to organise it somewhere on their availability on 3rd week of June 2010.
>
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Re: [osdcmy-public] mosc website

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

broken primary menu pages !

org ganu kata "kerja cap ayam"

sponsorship page :
http://conf.oss.my/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&id=4&Itemid=37

schedule :
http://conf.oss.my/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&id=3&Itemid=41

packages :
http://conf.oss.my/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5&Itemid=54

default joomla pages still not removed

   - About 
Joomla!
   - 
Features
   - 
News
   - The 
Community


 Accomodation

   - 
Extensions
   - Content 
Layouts
   - Example 
Pages


need to have the logo of the organisers / co-organisers / sponsors on the
front pages

suggestion : add the flag of all nationalities participating in the event eg
malaysia, singapore, indonesia, etc

suggestion : add photo gallery slideshow of pictures from last year events /
and all the photos behind the scenes (macam clips of the making of mosc 2010
?) on the front page

as a benchmark we need to be better than
http://mygosscon.oscc.org.my/2009/
http://foss.my/





On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel  wrote:

> We are on it. We hit a wall this pass few days. So everybody in the team
> pening.
>
> Anyway we are back. Pushing the momentum back. We will update the website
> ASAP.
>
> Thank you.
>
> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:00 PM, nuhaa  wrote:
> > hola! salam..
> > http://conf.oss.my/ <--- what's happening here? page missing, url too
> long,
> > content not there. and errr.. cfp page is not following the website theme
> > want to help promote but this has stopped me
> > who's the maintainer?
> > thx!
> > Nuhaa All Bakry / cawanpink
> > http://cawanpink.net
> > http://fosschix.my
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Re: [osdcmy-public] mosc website

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

bos, asyik nampak nama kau aje on the site.

nuhaa, boleh ke kita minta bantuan joomla community : to fix the problems
over the weekend? team yg buat the mygosscon site tentu boleh selesaikan
dalam 4 jam aje ;-)

the list of problems, dah identify dah. so can work on it.

before the weekend, the team will need to have the navigation structure.

//commando tak buat kerja bunuh diri




On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
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> Raja,
>
> Apa boleh buat bro. Yang buat website jugaklah tukang cari sponsor,
> tukang tengok CFP dan tukang buat proposal. Hehehe... Kami semua
> komando.
>
> By this week kita involved lagi ramai.
>
> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah
>  wrote:
> > broken primary menu pages !
> >
> > org ganu kata "kerja cap ayam"
> >
> > sponsorship page :
> >
> http://conf.oss.my/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&id=4&Itemid=37
> >
> > schedule :
> >
> http://conf.oss.my/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&id=3&Itemid=41
> >
> > packages :
> >
> http://conf.oss.my/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5&Itemid=54
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: mosc website

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

ok noted.

nuhaa, saya cuba nasib aje. saya pun dah 2 semester tertangguh project
paper.

shaifull, semalam logo dah decided. cuba check on the mosc mailing list.

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 11:01 PM, nuhaa  wrote:

> aler, saya sibuk ngan study these days.. payah nak commit utk ape2 pun dah
> skang ni
>
>
> Nuhaa All Bakry / cawanpink
> http://cawanpink.net
> http://fosschix.my
>
>
> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 8:11 PM, shaifful  wrote:
>
>> Pasal website, sy akan cuba jumpa sy punya designer balik.
>> Masalah dia ialah kita punya Logo lom setel, kalau dah senang dia
>> punya ker.
>> Tapi saya akan cuba tengokkan..
>>
>> On May 5, 12:58 pm, Raja Iskandar Shah 
>> wrote:
>> > bos, asyik nampak nama kau aje on the site.
>> >
>> > nuhaa, boleh ke kita minta bantuan joomla community : to fix the
>> problems
>> > over the weekend? team yg buat the mygosscon site tentu boleh selesaikan
>> > dalam 4 jam aje ;-)
>> >
>> > the list of problems, dah identify dah. so can work on it.
>> >
>> > before the weekend, the team will need to have the navigation structure.
>> >
>> > //commando tak buat kerja bunuh diri
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > Raja,
>> >
>> > > Apa boleh buat bro. Yang buat website jugaklah tukang cari sponsor,
>> > > tukang tengok CFP dan tukang buat proposal. Hehehe... Kami semua
>> > > komando.
>> >
>> > > By this week kita involved lagi ramai.
>> >
>> > > On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah
>> > >  wrote:
>> > > > broken primary menu pages !
>> >
>> > > > org ganu kata "kerja cap ayam"
>> >
>> > > > sponsorship page :
>> >
>> > >http://conf.oss.my/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&id=4&Ite.
>> ..
>> >
>> > > > schedule :
>> >
>> > >http://conf.oss.my/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&id=3&Ite.
>> ..
>> >
>> > > > packages :
>> >
>> > >http://conf.oss.my/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5&Ite.
>> ..
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Visit by Adaxa team to Malaysia

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

with regards to reference site, we already have several writeups

bayu cahya has already published his book based on the context of the
garment manufacturing factory that he works for

red1, has also written his piece from the context of the overall development
community

i have written a short blog post here :
http://rajaiskandarshah.blogspot.com/2010/05/adempiere-34-erp-solutions-by-bayu.html

if you kind enough to click through and buy, then i get a nice commission
;-)

if you want it cheap, get a copy from red1 ;-)

with regards to vis-a-vis myob and ubs - i am keen on using the adempiere
framework and rebuilding all the forms and reports so that it can have that
ubs / myob / peachtree / quickbooks user interface / experience. myob / ubs
/ peachtree / quickbooks sells millions of copies all over the world.

if we can hit that ui experience sweet spot, then write a book / manual /
guide for it. this can be a serious contender for the sme market. and a sap
killer. just imagine, the ease of use of the small accounting system but the
scalability of sap. at the moment, adempiere is too cumbersome for sme.

the adempiere framework already has that flexibility to enhance the ui
experience. i know this is feasible, as i had 3 of my staff to tinker with
adempiere on their own for 3 months.

with ubs/myob/peachtree/quickbooks, a user can easily produce an invoice in
15 seconds. with the current adempiere, we will be lucky to even get
anywhere less than 30 seconds.




On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Boh Yap  wrote:

> hi,
>
> ERP is a complex subject... and something I claim to know very little
> of,... but what would be useful is this.
>
> 1. Run thru a 'case study' of a ERP implementation plan for a business
> of meduim complexity, eg: a SME with few hundred employees and a few
> locations. This  serves a few objectives:
>
> a.  give potential Adempiere adoptees a 'feel' for the sophistication
> of the product.. so they know is not MYOB, UBS or any of those acctg
> pkgs
>
> b. give an indication of the complexity of implementing a ERP, so the
> DIY guys know its not like MYOB UBS ;-) and why its worthwhile to pay
> for services.
>
>
> 2. Look at the Business Processes for implementing and maintaining an
> ERP, ie: planning, type of work included, customization etc...
> The purpose of this is
>
> a. to analyze the 'value chain'  of Adempiere, and see where
> services/support are needed and hence provide revenue opportunities.
>
> b. potential Adempiere service providers can get an idea of the
> complexity of tasks involved and therefore gauge level of commitment
> and specialisation.
>
>
> Too much to ask? hey, I want to know too... and I guess so wld many
> ppl. So perhaps Adaxa wld need to run a wkshop as well as give a talk!
> ;-)
> ...and they wld open up many opportunities.
>
>
> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah
>  wrote:
> > can we have them participate in the malaysia open source conference ?
> which
> > will be held end of june 2010.
> >
> > the call for papers is here :
> >
> http://conf.oss.my/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=47:call-for-paperparticipation-for-malaysia-open-source-conference-2010
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 10:11 AM, red1  wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear all,
> >> I was just on Skype with Adaxa Australia (http://www.adaxa.com.au/)
> which
> >> is a prominent ADempiere partner with such reference site as
> >> http://www.intouchdirect.com.au/
> >> Steven Sackett, its senior partner and financials expert with extensive
> >> experience is producing a whitepaper on the reference project and will
> be
> >> willing to visit Malaysia and speak with those of similar interest in
> >> looking at ADempiere Open Source ERP in high-worth sector practice and
> >> comparison with other proprietary or commercial open source solutions.
> >>
> >> Would any party here be interested? If so please contact me directly and
> >> we try to organise it somewhere on their availability on 3rd week of
> June
> >> 2010.
> >>
> >> Kind Regards
> >> Redhuan D. Oon
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: mosc website

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

saya pun boleh bantu dari segi checking grammar dan proof-reading (tersilap
info akan bermasalah sebab semua org tengah sensitip ni ..)

apa2 boleh sms saya 0173325065




On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 1:59 PM, aziman noor  wrote:

> Untuk tolong dalam bab website saya boleh tolong.
> Tak payah tunggu weekend nih pun boleh.
>
> Dari pernyataan Raja tuh pun dah boleh mulakan tugas dari situ.
> Macamana Rizal, macamana aku boleh bantu...???
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
> rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ok noted.
>>
>> nuhaa, saya cuba nasib aje. saya pun dah 2 semester tertangguh project
>> paper.
>>
>> shaifull, semalam logo dah decided. cuba check on the mosc mailing list.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 11:01 PM, nuhaa  wrote:
>>
>>> aler, saya sibuk ngan study these days.. payah nak commit utk ape2 pun
>>> dah skang ni
>>>
>>>
>>> Nuhaa All Bakry / cawanpink
>>> http://cawanpink.net
>>> http://fosschix.my
>>>
>>>
>>>   On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 8:11 PM, shaifful wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pasal website, sy akan cuba jumpa sy punya designer balik.
>>>> Masalah dia ialah kita punya Logo lom setel, kalau dah senang dia
>>>> punya ker.
>>>> Tapi saya akan cuba tengokkan..
>>>>
>>>> On May 5, 12:58 pm, Raja Iskandar Shah 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > bos, asyik nampak nama kau aje on the site.
>>>> >
>>>> > nuhaa, boleh ke kita minta bantuan joomla community : to fix the
>>>> problems
>>>> > over the weekend? team yg buat the mygosscon site tentu boleh
>>>> selesaikan
>>>> > dalam 4 jam aje ;-)
>>>> >
>>>> > the list of problems, dah identify dah. so can work on it.
>>>> >
>>>> > before the weekend, the team will need to have the navigation
>>>> structure.
>>>> >
>>>> > //commando tak buat kerja bunuh diri
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > > Raja,
>>>> >
>>>> > > Apa boleh buat bro. Yang buat website jugaklah tukang cari sponsor,
>>>> > > tukang tengok CFP dan tukang buat proposal. Hehehe... Kami semua
>>>> > > komando.
>>>> >
>>>> > > By this week kita involved lagi ramai.
>>>> >
>>>> > > On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah
>>>> > >  wrote:
>>>> > > > broken primary menu pages !
>>>> >
>>>> > > > org ganu kata "kerja cap ayam"
>>>> >
>>>> > > > sponsorship page :
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> http://conf.oss.my/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&id=4&Ite.
>>>> ..
>>>> >
>>>> > > > schedule :
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> http://conf.oss.my/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&id=3&Ite.
>>>> ..
>>>> >
>>>> > > > packages :
>>>> >
>>>> > >
>>>> http://conf.oss.my/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5&Ite.
>>>> ..
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Request For Proposal (RFP)

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

marzuki, am confirming my attendance.

red1, bizcard re-order submitted last week. uv spot print 300 pcs.



On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 8:59 AM, red1  wrote:

>  I am looking forward to attend the IPP under Raja Iskandar's KrimNet.
>
> Raja,
> Name card dah habisla. Minta ofis print lagi bleh ke?
>
>
> On 5/7/10 7:17 PM, MM wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>  OSCC MAMPU is in the midst of establishing a Panel of OSCC MAMPU Products
> Service Providers.
>
> RFP document can be download from MAMPU we site at this link: 
> http://www.mampu.gov.my/pengumuman/07-05-2010-pdf
> 
>
>  If you need more info, you can do that by forwarding you question at
> email address stated in the RFP document ONLY.
>
>
>  We also wish to highlight that we are going to organise IPP (Industry
> Participating Plan) Workshop on the upcoming May 27 at OSCC MAMPU. Official
> invitation will be sent out next week using our last year participants list
> plus some new members. Those interested, you can respond to this email for
> attendance confirmation.
>
>
>  We look forward to your participation in submitting your proposal for the
> Panel of OSCC MAMPU Products Service Providers, and the IPP Workshop.
>
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Re: [osdcmy-public] [OT] job openings for local OSS company

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

hmm... my wish list for people that i want to hire

   1. wants to win every time and hates losing
   2. 100% + 20% commitment to quality
   3. able to work under a demanding pointy-haired boss (that's me)
   4. very ethical, very trustworthy, disciplined and principled (ok to be
   outspoken)
   5. will release codes as open source and face potential criticism and
   embarrassment
   6. has pride in his work (being ego-maniacal also helps)
   7. degree 3.0 cgpa
   8. already completed a project in php (that's what we do)
   9. ok for degree other than cs / it / se 
   10. must come in pairs

found a pair already... now to get that budget ;-)


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>
>
> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Hasan Abu Bakar wrote:
>
>> Nice opening! I wish I can work 48 hours a day. good luck guys! :D
>>
>
> we always passionate about passionate people :-D
>
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>>
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>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Umarzuki Mochlis 
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 7:12 PM, CL Chow  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Just curious, what applications are you developing?
>> >>
>> >> Anything between heaven and hell :-D
>> >
>> > Okay, I was just kidding about that one. Depends on what the customer
>> and
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Re: [osdcmy-public] New JStock - Free Stock Market Software 1.0.5L Released

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

congrats on the release



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> Feature : User may have multiple watchlists. Categorize among high
> growth stocks and dividend gained stocks made easy.
>
> Many bugs fixed as well.
>
> If you are interested, you may download from http://jstock.sourceforge.net
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[osdcmy-public] rm200 million for malaysianising software

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

Search Results

   1. New initiative aims to '*Malaysianise*' computer *software* | The *...
   
*
   14 May 2010 *...* A nationwideinitiative to "*Malaysianise*" computer *
   software* used in the *...* Communications and Multimedia Minister, Datuk
   Seri Utama Dr *Rais* *...*
   www.bt.com.bn/.../new-initiative-aims-*malaysianise*-computer-*software*
   2. RM200mil to create *software* with Malaysian touch - Latest news
*...*
   13 May 2010 *...* A national project to “*Malaysianise*” computer *
   software*, used in the information technology sectors in the country has
   been revealed. *Rais* *...*
   news.malaysia.msn.com/regional/article.aspx?cp-documentid... -
Cached
   3. RM200m to create *software* with Malaysian
touch
   13 May 2010 *...* SIBU: A nationwide initiative to “*Malaysianise*”
   computer *software* used in the information technology sectors in the
   country has been rolled *...*
   thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/5/13/nation/...sec... -
Cached
   4. RM200m to create *software* with Malaysian
touch
   3 posts - 3 authors - Last post: 3 hours ago
   *...* Datuk Seri Utama Dr *Rais* Yatim said his ministry had set up a
   RM200mil fund to finance the *software* “*Malaysianisation* initiative”.
   *...*
   www.miricommunity.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=29081&p... - 8 hours ago

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Re: [osdcmy-public] rm200 million for malaysianising software

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

i think rm200 million is better spent laying fibre optic cables on all
federal roads then attach a wifi point to the street lights every 500 meters


maxis thinks this concept is good
*Maxis* to utilise *TNB*
poles<http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/5/13/business/6249883&sec=business>
13 May 2010 *...* *Maxis* to utilise *TNB* poles. By JACK WONG
jackw...@thestar.com.my *...* KUCHING: *Maxis* Bhd plans to make use of
Tenaga Nasional Bhd (*TNB*) poles *...*
biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/5/13/business/... -
Cached<http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:xRuBKQg3aKYJ:biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp%3Ffile%3D/2010/5/13/business/6249883%26sec%3Dbusiness+maxis+tnb&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=ubuntu>

and for once, terengganu gets into the action early ;-)

finally i can dump tmnet !




On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:08 PM, sweemeng ng  wrote:

> call me cynical, but define malaysianise software.
>
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
> rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Search Results
>>
>>1. New initiative aims to '*Malaysianise*' computer *software* | The *
>>
>> ...*<http://www.bt.com.bn/science-technology/2010/05/14/new-initiative-aims-malaysianise-computer-software>
>>14 May 2010 *...* A nationwideinitiative to "*Malaysianise*" computer
>>*software* used in the *...* Communications and Multimedia Minister,
>>Datuk Seri Utama Dr *Rais* *...*
>>www.bt.com.bn/.../new-initiative-aims-*malaysianise*-computer-*
>>software*
>>2. RM200mil to create *software* with Malaysian touch - Latest news *
>>
>> ...*<http://news.malaysia.msn.com/regional/article.aspx?cp-documentid=4085401>
>>13 May 2010 *...* A national project to “*Malaysianise*” computer *
>>software*, used in the information technology sectors in the country
>>has been revealed. *Rais* *...*
>>news.malaysia.msn.com/regional/article.aspx?cp-documentid... - 
>> Cached<http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:xTXZAZzQu7sJ:news.malaysia.msn.com/regional/article.aspx%3Fcp-documentid%3D4085401+malaysianisation+software+rais&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=ubuntu>
>>3. RM200m to create *software* with Malaysian 
>> touch<http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/5/13/nation/6248741&sec=nation>
>>13 May 2010 *...* SIBU: A nationwide initiative to “*Malaysianise*”
>>computer *software* used in the information technology sectors in the
>>country has been rolled *...*
>>thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/5/13/nation/...sec... -
>>
>> Cached<http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:kuQvlVbcQe0J:thestar.com.my/news/story.asp%3Ffile%3D/2010/5/13/nation/6248741%26sec%3Dnation+malaysianisation+software+rais&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=ubuntu>
>>4. RM200m to create *software* with Malaysian 
>> touch<http://www.miricommunity.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=29081&p=380842>
>>3 posts - 3 authors - Last post: 3 hours ago
>>*...* Datuk Seri Utama Dr *Rais* Yatim said his ministry had set up a
>>RM200mil fund to finance the *software* “*Malaysianisation*initiative”.
>>*...*
>>www.miricommunity.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=29081&p... - 8 hours ago
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Re: [osdcmy-public] rm200 million for malaysianising software

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

whatever it is, since the money is there, i guess the loco and translation
teams should write to the ministry to ask for rm50k each. since we can own
the ip on our bits, then it is a big plus.

maybe a 1malaysia distro with english, malay, chinese, tamil, kadazan, ...
and 1malaysia persona, theme,  heck we can even have rais' face as
background..

i guess openoffice with all those languages will be good for schools. no
harm asking.



On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Hasan Abu Bakar wrote:

> of course there are proposals for these. I wonder who are the contractors..
> :)
>
>
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> ---
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>
>
>
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:14 PM, CL Chow  wrote:
> > May perhaps skeptical,
> > but 200mil without any detailed plans or proposal?!
> > Another way to waste more money for ego I suppose?
> > Regards,
> > CL Chow
> > "Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send
> > OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/";
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:05 PM, sweemeng ng  wrote:
> >>
> >> though 200mil is too much for translation work, personal opinion
> >>
> >> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Umarzuki Mochlis 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> it is better to put use on enhancing & translating already available
> open
> >>> source softwares
> >>> 200 mil...Imagine how that could further advance the open source
> >>> softwares
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> i think rm200 million is better spent laying fibre optic cables on all
> >>>> federal roads then attach a wifi point to the street lights every 500
> meters
> >>>> 
> >>>>
> >>>> maxis thinks this concept is good
> >>>> Maxis to utilise TNB poles
> >>>> 13 May 2010 ... Maxis to utilise TNB poles. By JACK WONG
> >>>> jackw...@thestar.com.my ... KUCHING: Maxis Bhd plans to make use of
> Tenaga
> >>>> Nasional Bhd (TNB) poles ...
> >>>> biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/5/13/business/... -
> Cached
> >>>>
> >>>> and for once, terengganu gets into the action early ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>> finally i can dump tmnet !
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:08 PM, sweemeng ng 
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> call me cynical, but define malaysianise software.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah
> >>>>>  wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Search Results
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> New initiative aims to 'Malaysianise' computer software | The ...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 14 May 2010 ... A nationwideinitiative to "Malaysianise" computer
> >>>>>> software used in the ... Communications and Multimedia Minister,
> Datuk Seri
> >>>>>> Utama Dr Rais ...
> >>>>>>
> www.bt.com.bn/.../new-initiative-aims-malaysianise-computer-software
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> RM200mil to create software with Malaysian touch - Latest news ...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 13 May 2010 ... A national project to “Malaysianise” computer
> >>>>>> software, used in the information technology sectors in the country
> has been
> >>>>>> revealed. Rais ...
> >>>>>> news.malaysia.msn.com/regional/article.aspx?cp-documentid... -
> Cached
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> RM200m to create software with Malaysian touch
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 13 May 2010 ... SIBU: A nationwide initiative to “Malaysianise”
> >>>>>> computer software used in the information technology sectors in the
> country
> >>>>>> has been rolled ...
> >>>>>> thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/5/13/nation/...sec... -
> >>>>>> Cached
> >>>>>>
> >

Re: [osdcmy-public] rm200 million for malaysianising software

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

whatever it is, malaysia really needs to do quantum leaps on its
infrastructure.

the united nations ranks malaysia 12th on e-participation. very highly
commended and a great success for little people like me to be proud of.

BUT because our infra sucks big time, malaysia is dragged down in the
overall e-government development index to 32. 20 places down ! and colombia
is ranked 31 above us !

refer to : http://www.unpan.org/egovkb/global_reports/08report.htm

like it or not, malaysia has to lay fibre optics through out the country,
then we can get full 3.5g or 4g or 5g or whatever.

countries like singapore, korea, japan, uk, .. are so far ahead of us on
fixed line broadband, that we need to do that quantum leap into high speed
wireless broadband to compete with them. thankfully, we have maxis, p1 and
digi to innovate the telco industry. if it was left to tmnet, we will still
be doing dial-up broadband which 80% of us are still doing right now.

according to the united nations, bahrain has leap-frogged us !

and india that the higher ups are so engrossed in wooing is ranked 119 !
thankfully, we have fewer indians developing 'e-government' projects for us.
malaysia boleh ;-)  malaysian macha' and thambi are much better lah ...

colombia's national income per capita is us$4,620. malaysia's is us$7,250.
to me it looks like tmnet has 'kencing' the country big time. how can a
central american drug war ravaged country beat us in the overall
e-government development index ?

reference :
http://data.worldbank.org/country (a beautiful site done using open source
drupal)
http://data.worldbank.org/country/malaysia
http://data.worldbank.org/country/colombia

hopefully, someone with a facebook account can paste this to yb rais' and yb
najib's facebook account.


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> On 5/16/10 3:12 AM, Boh Yap wrote:
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>> ;-) if only the gov is this enlightened...
>>
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Re: [osdcmy-public] rm200 million for malaysianising software

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

yes red1 you must have been reading my mind ;p

plenty of proposals to fit into an 'ungreased' storage vault ! hahaha .. and
some are horrible that deserves to be flushed down the toilet ;p

but suprisingly, a few do get through. but the information need to be
packaged and must be quantified in terms of total value and rule of thumb
value. the 'angkatan' helps a lot as well.

// this afternoon my brother is coming to entice me to join in his proposed
shipping business in sabah. sounds very exciting. now everyone can sail ?


On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 12:04 PM, red1  wrote:

> thanks Raja for been the journalist. Reading yesterday's news. It is no
> better than my bitching. But who pitches for tomorrow? What proposal do you
> have? How long is it stuck in some ungreased drawer?
>
>
> On 5/16/10 11:47 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:
>
>> whatever it is, malaysia really needs to do quantum leaps on its
>> infrastructure.
>>
>> the united nations ranks malaysia 12th on e-participation. very highly
>> commended and a great success for little people like me to be proud of.
>>
>> BUT because our infra sucks big time, malaysia is dragged down in the
>> overall e-government development index to 32. 20 places down ! and colombia
>> is ranked 31 above us !
>>
>> refer to : http://www.unpan.org/egovkb/global_reports/08report.htm
>>
>> like it or not, malaysia has to lay fibre optics through out the country,
>> then we can get full 3.5g or 4g or 5g or whatever.
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Re: [osdcmy-public] rm200 million for malaysianising software

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

aye, red1

i am quite certain that you said you wanted a pirate ship ?

best place to get a pirate ship is in laut sulu

anyone else wants a ship ? not necessarily a pirate ship.


On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 1:33 PM, red1  wrote:

> Nampak macam going the way of Tony Fernandez plak? Aneh.. in the end who
> cries for Open Source? Am i to give up also cos i got smashed personally by
> 'Mr MDec'? Which i thought was public taxpayers' money and citizens' trust,
> and not some personal official's drawer who places Facebook and MS as higher
> priority.
>
> I wish MDec can back up its criticisms against me with an official letter.
> So i can then properly regard MDec as officialy wants me to end my pitching
> and high worth ideas for the country. They do not want me to expose where
> the RM10m funding promised to us went to. I got information and i am putting
> them out as fair comment. I did not name names. In the end i have to take
> legal action. Because this is getting serious. MDec made official claims in
> the press. It is time to take accountability.
>
> MDec bukanlah khazanah persendirian sesiapa tetapi amanah rakyat
> terutamanya warga sumber terbuka. Mereka perlu bantuan dan jawapan, bukan
> helah dan pemesongan sehingga program MOSCON menjadi alasan memerah tenaga
> warga tersebut tanpa balasan sewarjarnya. Isu sebenar bukanlah daya
> perjuangan mereka lagi. Kami sudah terbukti berjuang habis-habisan. Samada
> sebagai pengguna maupun pembuat.
>
> Sudah lama kedengaran rintihan mereka setiap kali program dan kali ini akan
> berulang. Ini bukan ramalan, tetapi amalan biasa. Dan saya sebagai rakyat
> prihatan dan peka tidak akan dan tidak patut berdiam diri. Yang lemah akan
> peluk apa saja ranting yang ada seolah terlalu lemah, miskin dan mengemis.
> Ini tidak mencerminkan daya permikiran yang sepatutnya dari warga generasi
> terkini. Bukan terbilang dan gemilang, tetapi makin tersilam dan terhilang.
>
>
> On 5/16/10 12:45 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:
>
>> yes red1 you must have been reading my mind ;p
>>
>> plenty of proposals to fit into an 'ungreased' storage vault ! hahaha ..
>> and some are horrible that deserves to be flushed down the toilet ;p
>>
>> but suprisingly, a few do get through. but the information need to be
>> packaged and must be quantified in terms of total value and rule of thumb
>> value. the 'angkatan' helps a lot as well.
>>
>> // this afternoon my brother is coming to entice me to join in his
>> proposed shipping business in sabah. sounds very exciting. now everyone can
>> sail ?
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Re: [osdcmy-public] rm200 million for malaysianising software

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

i think straits people or orang laut (as in tuhfat al-nafis) is a more
appropriate description. strong principles and uncompromising. but
remembered in the history books as pirates because munshi abdullah screwed
up our history ;-(

as they say, it takes two to tango.

now, shall we take our family and have that dance under the twilight stars
on the deck of chow's ship ;-)

perhaps carlos ruiz will be kind enough to welcome us to the shores of
colombia ?


On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 2:09 PM, red1  wrote:

> On 5/16/10 1:51 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:
>
>> aye, red1
>>
>> i am quite certain that you said you wanted a pirate ship ?
>>
> u shuld know by now what kind of pirates we are. We are anarchic and
> chaotic, and we will lurk in the darkness to attack strongly. I tot that i
> can land on shore and put on a coat and tie to change the world. It seems
> not to be.
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[osdcmy-public] Fwd: Invitation to Application

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

this looks like an opportunity for open source developers to get an academic
accreditation.

in phase 1 of the mampu oscc benefit realisation report, i had already
pointed out that they need to move out from classroom training into
experiential learning.

there are a lot of opportunity for open source as the preferred software
when it comes to experiential learning because of the freedom offered.






-- Forwarded message --
From: Apel (None) 
Date: Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:30 AM
Subject: Invitation to Application
To: capl.stude...@oum.edu.my


Dear OUM Learners,



Would you like to earn academic credits for your prior learning and work
experience?



The Centre for Assessment of Prior Learning (CAPL) is pleased to provide you
the opportunity to do so through the Accreditation of Prior Experiential
Learning (APEL).



APEL could potentially reduce the cost of study and accelerate completion of
your university degree.



To know more about APEL, visit our website at http://capl.oum.edu.my  and
find out how APEL can benefit you.





Sincere regards,

Lilian Kek

Head of CAPL





*Note: *

APEL is now OPEN for application. Log on to your myLMS, and look for *APEL
Online* under the eServices menu. Click on APEL Application to find out the
courses that you are eligible to apply. Hurry! The deadline for APEL
application submission is *1 June 2010*.



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Re: [osdcmy-public] Registration Is Now Open For MSC Malaysia Open Source Conference 2010 (MSC MOSC2010)

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

suggestion for improvement on the registration page:

add link to the schedule : http://conf.oss.my/schedule.html

mention specific numbers for each package eg
Access to 25 Developer Tracks
Access to 26 Community Tracks
Access to Exhibition
Opportunity to take part in any 2 Competition
3 days (9.00am till 7.00pm)
Finger Food (unlimited)
Freebies



On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Muhammad Hafiz wrote:

> Wa liao! The price for student package +RM100 more, guess couldn't make it
> for this year's of MOSC, I'm sorry =)
>
> Thanks,
> Hafiz =)
>
>
> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Najah  wrote:
>
>> Hi Adam,
>>
>> You got that right... :)
>>
>>
>> Please confirm your seat before June 2nd and you will entitle to our 15%
>> early birds discount.
>>
>> Register Now!  @ http://mosc2010.needs2u.com/reg01.php
>>
>>
>> See you guys there..!!  :)
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Yun
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Adam Othman wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Ouh, means, RM600 if one were to take 3 days Daily Package? but then
>>> again, there's business package altogether. Haha..
>>> Thanks for the clarification, understood.. :)
>>>
>>> All the best to MOSC2010.. See you guys there.. not sure where i can
>>> help, but /me open to contribute..
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Nik M Adam Hafiz
>>> B : alak.f.n0rd.org
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 2:16 AM, Najah  wrote:
>>>
 Hi Adam,

 Daily package = 1 day all access (access to *business*, *community *& 
 *developer
 *tracks for that day only)

 Developer package = access to *community *& *developer *tracks for day
 1,2 & 3


 and yes "All daily access passes" means All access but for that day
 only.

 for more details, please refer to our registration package:
 http://conf.oss.my/register.html

 Regards,
 Yun



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> Hi All,
>
> just a minor question, not sure why i'm a bit confused. Whats the diff
> between Daily Package and the Developers Package? Both are RM200.
> "All daily access passes" means All Access right? or is there any
> specific restriction or developer and/or daily pass holders?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Regards,
>
> Nik M Adam Hafiz
> B : alak.f.n0rd.org
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
> linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Registration Is Now Open For MSC Malaysia Open Source Conference 2010
>> (MSC MOSC2010)
>>
>> Please visit MSC MOSC2010 website to register
>>
>> http://conf.oss.my/
>>
>> MSC Malaysia's inaugural and full-fledged Open Source Conference to
>> incorporate a "Quadruple play" of 4 crucial stakeholders consisting of
>> government, businesses, developers and community in envisioning open
>> source's contribution to the IT industry and socio-economy. Organise
>> by Open Source Developers Club Malaysia (OSDC.my) and co-organised
>> with
>> MAMPU and MDeC.
>>
>> For this year event, it will be held from 29th June to 1st July 2010
>> in Berjaya Time Square, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
>>
>> Among the speakers
>>
>> Joomla 1.6 Security - Sam Moffat, Joomla, Australia
>> Joomla CMS Vulnerability Scanner - Aung Khan, OWASP
>> Android Applications in 3D - Yap Wen Jiun, MMU, Malaysia
>> Embedded GNU/Linux System: A Smart Camera - Prof Dr. R. Badlishah
>> Ahmad, UNIMAP, Malaysia
>> Open Source Map - Noah Masmap, Malaysia
>> Open source for securing data with advanced Crypto-Steganography
>> technology - Suhas Desai, Tech Mahindra, India
>> Content Management Using Object Relational Database Approach - Assoc.
>> Prof. Dr. Md Gapar Md Johar, MSU, Malaysia
>> OWASP and What It Can Do For You - Cecil Su, OWASP International
>> MariaDB: MySQL->Next? - Colin Charles
>> PHP and the Cloud - Vito Chin, Ibuildings, UK
>>
>> and more, visit MSC MOSC2010 website for more details.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> MSC Malaysia Open Source Conference 2010
>>
>> mosc2010 @ oss.my
>>
>> Milking The Cloud Competition for MSC MOSC2010 Is now open for
>> registration
>>
>> http://conf.oss.my/mtc
>>
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>> http://opensource.mampu.gov.my/
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Re: [osdcmy-public] EDM MSC MOSC2010

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

salam

suggest add some place about what these 'open source' software do / perform
? eg virtualisation / cloud computing / content management systems / portals
/ business process management / business intelligence / analytics. can
summarise the topics based on the cfp list received. there is still lots of
space top left

should add Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia below Berjaya Times Square Hotel

also there are some grammatical errors:
... is a yearly event ...
... as a gathering of titans 

the link www.mscmalaysia.my/osconf points to outdated 2009 conference




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Re: [osdcmy-public] EDM MSC MOSC2010

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

nice, having the schedule makes it much more attractive



On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 11:15 PM, Najah  wrote:

> Boss, latest design.
>
>
> Regards,
> Khairunnajah Abd Kadir
> MSC MOSC 2010 Secretariat.
> web   :  http://conf.oss.my
> mail   :  khairunna...@oss.my
> mobi  :   +6.013.683.8980
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> [image: The Official Web for MSC Malaysia Open Source Conference 2010]
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Recommended netbook for FreeBSD/Linux

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

dell vostro v13

sold by dell out of the box pre-installed with ubuntu

13 inch screen, 4gb ram, intel core 2 duo ulv

http://www1.ap.dell.com/my/en/business/vostro-v13-pd/fs.aspx?refid=vostro-v13-pd&s=bsd&cs=mybsd1



On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 9:04 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE wrote:

> I'd like to know this too. +1
>
>
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>> Hi folks,
>>
>> In the midst of a purchasing decision for a portable netbook that runs
>> either FreeBSD or Ubuntu (pref. Xubuntu). It has to be light < 1.5kg,
>> doesn't have a battery that protrudes out like a pot belly and has either
>> Atom N- or Neo CPU. Also it has to be able to boot from USB as I plan to use
>> a live OS on a USB flash drive. a hi-res screen i.e. 1366x768 is alright as
>> well.
>>
>> Usage? Just typical web browsing and some light on-the-go C and python
>> programming.
>>
>> I've taken a look at Latitude 2110 which looks good but I'm hoping to
>> solicitate other ideas.
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Recommended netbook for FreeBSD/Linux

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

i run ubuntu netbook remix 10.04 on acer aspire one. no problems so far. i
use it as my main work computer.

get the intel atom n280 (or newer), 2gb ram, and 6-cell battery (protuding
pot belly battery).

once ran oracle 10g db and oracle forms 6i app on it. still boleh lagi even
with firefox and openoffice running concurrently.

when comparing the netbooks, check out the ports (usb / vga / sdcard / eth /
bluetooth)

and also the after-sales service. netbooks are mass market products, so
there are bound to be a few that does not work as it should.




On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim <
ihsan.juna...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> It's a bit over my budget as my range is RM 1.5k or around that. well if
> it's as beautiful as vaio x-series, i'll pay v13 price too.
>
>
> On 7 June 2010 21:35, Raja Iskandar Shah  wrote:
>
>> dell vostro v13
>>
>> sold by dell out of the box pre-installed with ubuntu
>>
>> 13 inch screen, 4gb ram, intel core 2 duo ulv
>>
>>
>> http://www1.ap.dell.com/my/en/business/vostro-v13-pd/fs.aspx?refid=vostro-v13-pd&s=bsd&cs=mybsd1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 9:04 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd like to know this too. +1
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim <
>>> ihsan.juna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>
>>>> In the midst of a purchasing decision for a portable netbook that runs
>>>> either FreeBSD or Ubuntu (pref. Xubuntu). It has to be light < 1.5kg,
>>>> doesn't have a battery that protrudes out like a pot belly and has either
>>>> Atom N- or Neo CPU. Also it has to be able to boot from USB as I plan to 
>>>> use
>>>> a live OS on a USB flash drive. a hi-res screen i.e. 1366x768 is alright as
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> Usage? Just typical web browsing and some light on-the-go C and python
>>>> programming.
>>>>
>>>> I've taken a look at Latitude 2110 which looks good but I'm hoping to
>>>> solicitate other ideas.
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Recommended netbook for FreeBSD/Linux

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

bos, are you using ubuntu netbook remix ?

maxis bb also works great on ubuntu netbook remix 10.04 on acer aspire one
n270 from taman paroi jaya, seremban. just plug and play. there's a simple
wizard when first time plug-in that does the maxis bb configuration.



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Re: [osdcmy-public] Bringing Global Minds to Mine in Perak

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

best wishes red1. dont forget to bring back that pirate ship to pick the
rest of us up ;-)

i believe kudos to the malaysian govt is deserved as well, as i heard that
the thai authorities specifically asked the mou to be signed with a
malaysian. malaysia's ranking has also risen in a few areas (such as e-govt
and national competitiveness), so more countries have confidence in
malaysians.

many thanks to kperak who have extended a shelter, and hope there are many
more exciting things to come

hope we can all work together and get rid of the need to have 'tongkat' and
having to 'kowtow' to cronyism




On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:25 PM, CL Chow  wrote:

> another stimulating food for thoughts from Herr Red1 in this cloudy
> morning,
> as a Perakian, how can I help out?
>
> Mit freundlichen Gruessen.
>
> Regards,
> CL Chow
> "Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents. Send
> OpenDocument instead! http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/";
>
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>
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> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:11 PM, red1  wrote:
>
>> Guys,
>> This is a good reference of comtemplative thought for VCs and those
>> interested in the business model of Open Source projects. Frank Scavo is a
>> reputable and active think-tank in US. Please see
>> http://fscavo.blogspot.com/2010/06/open-source-not-immune-to-erp-vendor.html
>>
>> By the way, there will be regional cheer this Saturday in Phuket when i
>> have the honour to represent ADempiere and KPerak INC to sign an MOU
>> agreeing the use of Open Source ERP software based on ADempiere for Thailand
>> Halal Logistics Hub in the IMT-GT. It will be witnessed by the Deputy Prime
>> Minister of Thailand, Dr. Trairong Suwankeeree (Thailand has 3 DPMs and he
>> is the 2nd). Please see
>> http://www.adempiere.com/images/2/26/ThailandHalal.gif
>>
>> This means 2 peculiar firsts that are so ironic:
>>
>> 1. Global Halal consciousness was a Malaysian initiative. See how Thailand
>> is doing this for IMT-GT.
>> 2. ADempiere is Malaysian born and led. See further Thailand's remarkable
>> positioning move with it.
>>
>> This brings mix feelings to my patriotism. I hope the 10MP can make some
>> sense to address such issues of brain and IP drain, innovativeness adn
>> creativity coming from neighbouring countries instead.
>>
>> Some salvaging here at least is that KPerak INC (after an unavoidable
>> delay due to political reasons) has returned in full force of support for
>> its 2007 letter to me in ADempiere USA. Together with Libya's eGovt
>> initiative i hope to rekindle my 'MSC8's Malaysia Gift To The World from a
>> farm' dreams and hope in Perak Darul Red1 cool quiet away from the sleepy
>> lie of CyberJaya.
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Bringing Global Minds to Mine in Perak

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

whoa you mean ssm give you special treatment because you want to
register a company doing oss ?



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> That is certainly true... I experience a quite similar situation./It
> when I applied for open source company registering the officers in SSM
> gave me a jump-queue through those very long counters. I wonder if
> this (the priority) for OSS'ers applied to all major situations :)
>
> On 6/17/10, red1  wrote:
> > On 6/17/10 12:53 PM, CL Chow wrote:
> >> I'm a developer :)
> > Great! Software rules the world, not money.
> >
> > What Raja said about Malaysia's big name in the eyes of Thailand is even
> > more true in Libya and the other Arab/African nations. My troops got me
> > late to the Tripoli airport when flying to Benghazi, and they just by
> > mentioning that they got guests 'min Malazee' got the Airport Security
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Need Opinion On Using Other Programs in A Own Framework

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assuming your application is modular / your files are separate from the bfw
files / bfw is used as a libary / but your app is dependent on the bfw files
: should acknowledge bfw (like our ida application)

if your application is packaged together with the bfw as a component but
files are separate
must acknowledge use of bfw like example:
This software includes SQLite 3.6.22.
EMX sprintf and sscanf methods by Eberhard Mattes
Copyright © 1990-1998 Eberhard Mattes.
Portions of this software are copyright © 1996-2004 The FreeType Project.
All rights reserved.
Zlib compression library
Developed by Jean-loup Gailly and Mark Adler: (Copyright © 1995-2004 by
Jean-loup Gailly and Mark Adler)

if you are adding lines to the bfw source codes / making a fork / making a
derivative product - then it depends on the open source licensing: the gpl
requires that you make it gpl also; bsd/mit is more permissive to do
whatever you wish. personally i recommend you do a fork, then inform the bfw
project team about it, and email them to your codes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_%28software_development%29




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>
> http://www.neuroinfo.org/bash_framework.php
>
> Im going to used the framework as base for the application that I want
> to build and I will customize a lot of it...
>
> What is proper way to acknowledge the used of bfw
>
> 1) Return back the codes that we customize.
> 2) Ackowledge in my distribution of the said OSS software that used bfw.
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Re: [osdcmy-public]

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with respect to the no-show by oracle. this is one of the reason why my team
are happy that we dont do java, and we are now trying to port anything
related to java and mysql to something else. which includes cobbling
together a business intelligence software based on php, javascript and
python.

the first thing that went out was openoffice.org as a background headless
service. we have replaced with gnumeric.

next on the list is the etl engine. this will probably be the hardest. but
it is something that we have to do.

see my ramblings about a business intelligence software on python :
http://software.krimnet.com/phyton/business-intelligence-with-phyton.htm

i wonder with the uncertainty regarding java / mysql whether now is a good
time to invest and start a truly open source erp where everything is open
source (including the programming language).

congrats and many thanks to the core osdc team and mdec for the mosc 2010.
you have proven to never give up and kept on fighting.

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Re: [osdcmy-public] Re:

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there are lots to be done, now that osdc has had that experience and gone
through the learning curve. kudos to all those involved in the conference.
the team needs more people and a strong taiko / big brother.

rafe, is your email hinting that there will still be a next year ? ;-)
appreciate if mdec can still continue to be the big taiko. but have a little
more faith for the little brother to define its path ;-)

while mosc2010 is still 'hot', can we start with the planning and paperwork
for mosc2011 ? then we can put in the program, organisation and budget much
earlier.

we also need to revisit the osdc formalisation and ask again : is osdc a
geek club or a business association or can it be both ? reading from this
thread: business is the anti-thesis of geek.

in my personal opinion, i would like osdc to be a geek club where it is able
to do advocacy and building up the community and do stuff like the
linuxvarsity and penguin masuk kampung.

i would also like to thank everyone in the community and inform everyone
that i will be stepping down as pro-term deputy president for osdc.my. i
want to focus on the oss industry (the cari makan part of the eco-system).




On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Walter Heck - OlinData.com <
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> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 03:26, rafe azsnal  wrote:
> > I'm reading it I just feel that I need to say something here... firstly I
> > would like to apologize if what I write here might hurt your big damn
> ego...
> > [..SNIP..]
> > you guys might be smarter a bit in way to CONTRIBUTE to the whole
> agendas...
> Touche. I could come up with a list of excuses, but that doesn't
> change the fact that I'm a side-line talker at least for this
> conference. I didn't explicitly say so, but I have great respect for
> those in the organisation pulling this kind of thing of, and I'm sure
> they have decent reasons for the decisions they made. I guess these
> are part of the growing pains of open source becoming more ready for
> the business world.
>
> Moving forward then (and moving towards action instead of words) is
> there anything I could help do right now? I'm about to organise a
> highly technical event on August the 13th in the style of what I wrote
> here: http://www.tribily.com/content/hivestorm-fast-paced-group-brainstorm
> .
> 'Problem' is though that that type of event is a breeze to organise
> when compared to a fullblown conference.
>
> /me is humbly open for suggestions.
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[osdcmy-public] oracle application express : vb for the enterprise ?

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/application_express/html/4.0_new_features.html?msgid=8948570&eid=4924363811&lid=1

for now it is for oracle db  i wonder when will they release for mysql ?

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[osdcmy-public] opensolaris ?

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anyone using opensolaris ?

OpenSolaris board may quit over Oracle's
silence

Group in charge of open source version of Sun's Solaris OS has threatened to
resign in protest at a lack of communication from Oracle about the project's
future.
Thursday, July 15 2010 09:40 AM

what then is the future of java ? netbeans ? glassfish ? openoffice.org ?
mysql ?

if you had thought that oracle was buying sun because it wanted to embrace
open source ... THINK AGAIN ! oracle buys over companies to get rid of
competition !

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Re: [osdcmy-public] Software Freedom Day

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

sweemeng,

foss day is on sunday, 18 sept 2010 ? which is 1 week after raya ?



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> I'll contribute a talk
>
> Azrul
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> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:32 AM, syamsul anuar  wrote:
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>> Sounds great. Depends on the timing, I will be in.
>>
>> -Anuar-
>>
>> On Jul 20, 2010 7:49 AM, "red1"  wrote:
>>
>>  Bro.. can also but i prefer something new to be a global ass-kicker. Let
>> us theoretise about how the recent Google Map thingy can integrate
>> wonderfully to the ERP locators. I put the basic idea here
>> http://red1empire.blogspot.com/2010/07/google-devfest-in-kuala-lumpur.html
>>
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Software Freedom Day

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oppss.. sorry. i meant software freedom day (not foss day)


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> sweemeng,
>
> foss day is on sunday, 18 sept 2010 ? which is 1 week after raya ?
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Azrul MADISA wrote:
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>> I'll contribute a talk
>>
>> Azrul
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:32 AM, syamsul anuar  wrote:
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>>> Sounds great. Depends on the timing, I will be in.
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>> wonderfully to the ERP locators. I put the basic idea here
>>> http://red1empire.blogspot.com/2010/07/google-devfest-in-kuala-lumpur.html
>>>
>>>
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[osdcmy-public] what's new at osdc.my ?

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

good day all

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Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: Memperkenal Buku Joomla! Khas untuk beginner dalam bahasa Malaysia..

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

memandangkan banyak agensi kerajaan yg gunakan joomla, saya syorkan minta
bantuan oscc untuk promote.

sambil tu buat lah satu webpage mengenai buku tersebut dan order form.

kalau nak jadi penjual ada harga diskaun ke ?



2010/7/24 Azril Nazli Alias 

> belilah yang original, bagilah semangat penulis buku teknikal seperti kami
> merasa duit royalti :D
>
>
> Saya juga menulis buku, tapi percuma, saya gunakan untuk masa latihan kelas
> CakePHP
>
>
> 1.
> http://www.scribd.com/doc/34354843/Azril-Nazli-Books-Membina-Blog-Menggunakan-CakePHP
>
> 2. Atau google " menjadi pembangun cakephp"
>
> 2010/7/24 Umarzuki Mochlis 
>
> sampel?
>> pilihan untuk belian dalam talian?
>>
>> 2010/7/24 e1 
>>
>> tidak OPEN lah tu macam.. patut ada FREE EDITION kepada siapa yang harus
>>> SELARASKAN perbelanjaan ni.. muahahahaha
>>>
>>> 2010/7/24 shaifful 
>>>
>>> Buku ini baru wahai e1.. xde ebook punya... hehehe, kalau nak versi
 advanced saya ada jugak.. tapi saya punya versi sekerat.. hehehe

 On Jul 24, 3:55 pm, e1  wrote:
 > puas sudah mencari dalam TORRENT.. edisi versi ini tiada kah wahai
 Cikgu
 > Shaifful?
 >
 > 2010/7/24 Shaiffulnizam Mohamad >
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 > > Mohamad dari komuniti Joomla! Malaysia (http://www.joomla.my) ingin
 > > memperkenalkan kepada Tuan/puan yang melanggan Mailing list OSSC
 buku
 > > pertama mengenai Joomla! dalam Bahasa Malaysia khusus untuk Beginner
 atau
 > > kepada mereka yang mahu berkenalan dengan Joomla! CMS. Buku yang
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 > > maksudkan ialah Joomla! Berinternet ditulis oleh Wan Azlee wan
 Abdullah dan
 > > diterbitkan oleh Penerbit UMP.
 >
 > > Setelah diamati dan dibaca secara teliti, saya bersetuju bahawa
 *buku ini
 > > amat sesuai untuk mereka yang mahu berkenalan dengan Joomla!*, Buat
 masa
 > > ini, untuk pengetahuan pihak tuan/puan buku ini ialah satu-satunya
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 > > mengenai Joomla! 1.5 dalam Bahasa Malaysia. Kualiti Buku amat baik
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 difahami
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Kompilasi Buku Panduan CakePHP

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

thanks for sharing. moga makin murah rezeki :-)

mygosscon nanti masuk tanding ke ?



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> Ada 3 buku, mostly using Cake 1.2. Sapa-sapa nak belajar, can download and
> read for free.
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Re: [osdcmy-public] YTL Mobile competition

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

thanks. total prizes is US$ 1 million (bukan rupiah bapak2 ibu2)

there are three categories :
ideas, software and devices.

for software the top 3 prizes are us$200k, us$120k and us$80k. for
malaysians there is an additional us$120k.

if you as a malaysian comes out top, then you stand to win us$200k + us$120k
= us$320k !

cool !

amran, kau masuk ke ? team aku pun nak cuba test power gok !



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>
> http://www.ytlcomms.my/EN/innovation_network.aspx
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Looking for a PHP developer working on Open Source Software

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

good day walter

your project looks really interesting

my team has quite a bit of experience with php, mysql, drupal, netbeans,
github. and lots of javascript at the moment for extending the
functionalities of jquery sheet.

we would be interested to work together on a drupal module similar to
sheetnode. this module will make it much easier to produce reports using a
spreadsheet like interface.



On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:26 PM, Walter Heck - OlinData.com <
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> Hey guys,
>
> One of the projects is a home-built Drupal module without a framework.
> It is still in early stages and only subject to my hacking, which is
> not really that advanced. I'm hoping to find a developer that will be
> able to maintain that with a bit of a higher coding skill then me :)
>
> The other project is a modified version of the frontend of Zabbix (see
> http://zabbix.com). We stick to the framework used there so the
> chances of getting our changes merged back into trunk over time are
> higher. Zabbix is one of those read-only open source programs. We're
> working with Zabbix SIA (the company behind it) to get commit rights,
> but until then we are using a parallel-maintained version in github
> that has our modifications in it.
>
> We use PHP 5.2 and MariaDB 5.1.47 at the moment. I do development in
> NetBeans, but I would encourage anyone to do development in their own
> environment. There's lots of room for initiative as well as you can
> see :)
>
> Please apply, even if you think your experience is too limited. We
> might be able to work something out with partial payment or sort of an
> internship type of thing. As I said, flexibility is key and we are
> willing to go a long way to give some of the aspiring talent in this
> country a chance.
>
> Walter
>
> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 20:50, archayl  wrote:
> > On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 20:12 +0800, Azril Nazli Alias wrote:
> >> I'll spread the new...do you require any Framework knowledge like
> >> Cake,Zend,Ci ?
> >>
> >> http://azrilnazli.blogspot.com
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:02 PM, CL Chow  wrote:
> >> interesting... but not experienced enough
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> CL Chow
> >> "Please do not send me Microsoft Office/Apple iWork documents.
> >> Send OpenDocument instead!
> >> http://fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/";
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Walter Heck
> >>  wrote:
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> our startup tribily is looking for PHP developers. I'm
> >> posting this
> >> position here because you will be mostly working on
> >> Open Source
> >> projects that are being released back to the greater
> >> public. Anyone
> >> with relevant PHP experience and time on their hands
> >> is encouraged to
> >> apply. Read more here:
> >> http://tribily.com/page/tribily-hiring
> >>
> >> We currently already have two PHP-developers based in
> >> Malaysia doing
> >> parttime work, but we're looking for people who can
> >> put in more hours
> >> then just evenings and weekends. I'd like to give more
> >> of the talent
> >> here in Malaysia a chance, so don't hesitate to apply!
> >>
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> >>
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Looking for a PHP developer working on Open Source Software

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no worries. and no obligations.

we will still be doing spreadsheet modules for a few popular cms.

when we release, we will let everyone know, and you can give it a try.

the version that we have is using kohanaphp and jquery. we added several
functions, including displaying data from mysql through the spreadsheet.

here's a peek to a spreadsheet i did this morning:
http://k-commodities.kppk.gov.my/dashboard/dataset/667

imagine how much time it would have taken to do that using php codes.

if there are any other person who is interested in having a spreadsheet
interface, we will be happy to talk to them ;-)



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>
> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 07:05, Raja Iskandar Shah
>  wrote:
> > my team has quite a bit of experience with php, mysql, drupal, netbeans,
> > github. and lots of javascript at the moment for extending the
> > functionalities of jquery sheet.
> Cool. That's exactly what we need.
>
> > we would be interested to work together on a drupal module similar to
> > sheetnode. this module will make it much easier to produce reports using
> a
> > spreadsheet like interface.
> Well, right now I can't even find manpower to work on our own
> high-priority projects, so I'm not sure how this would be possible
> from our side :)
>
> Maybe if we can find a PHP developer then we can share the cost and
> their workload?
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Pengaturcara PHP diperlukan

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

congrats on the project.

harap2 dgn ni kita semua dapat employ dan bimbing seberapa banyak oss
developers.

saya rasa yg selalu complain oss tak boleh bikin duit adalah salesmen jual
'box' packaged software.

imho, oss is more like ibm service business rather than microsoft product
business.



2010/8/5 Hasanuddin Abu Bakar 

> Salam...
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>
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>
>
>
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Looking for a PHP developer working on Open Source Software

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

yes they will be
http://github.com/idafx/IDA-Framework

but the codes in the repository are the beta of version 2.0 - without the
spreadsheet.

will commit the latest codes next month. need to test and clean up several
configurations.

at the moment, we are working with our own git server behind the client's
firewall.

but our version will not make much sense to you as it is purpose built for
economics. that is my subject matter. 90% of the coding is done by towfx @
taufiqism @ taufiq

a lot of the things that you see are actually using jquery. you can probably
build your own from the jquery ui, jquery theme roller and jquery sheet. and
we are using pchart for charting up until we can have widespread support for
html5.




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> Looks good, are those modules open sourced? Where can we find them?
>
> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 15:01, Raja Iskandar Shah
>  wrote:
> > no worries. and no obligations.
> >
> > we will still be doing spreadsheet modules for a few popular cms.
> >
> > when we release, we will let everyone know, and you can give it a try.
> >
> > the version that we have is using kohanaphp and jquery. we added several
> > functions, including displaying data from mysql through the spreadsheet.
> >
> > here's a peek to a spreadsheet i did this morning:
> > http://k-commodities.kppk.gov.my/dashboard/dataset/667
> >
> > imagine how much time it would have taken to do that using php codes.
> >
> > if there are any other person who is interested in having a spreadsheet
> > interface, we will be happy to talk to them ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Walter Heck - OlinData.com
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Raja & all,
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 07:05, Raja Iskandar Shah
> >>  wrote:
> >> > my team has quite a bit of experience with php, mysql, drupal,
> netbeans,
> >> > github. and lots of javascript at the moment for extending the
> >> > functionalities of jquery sheet.
> >> Cool. That's exactly what we need.
> >>
> >> > we would be interested to work together on a drupal module similar to
> >> > sheetnode. this module will make it much easier to produce reports
> using
> >> > a
> >> > spreadsheet like interface.
> >> Well, right now I can't even find manpower to work on our own
> >> high-priority projects, so I'm not sure how this would be possible
> >> from our side :)
> >>
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> >> their workload?
> >>
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Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS In Our Education

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

thank you bos,

pengalaman sebenar dari 'medan utama' yg sangat berharga.

personally, we invest quite a bit of time to build relationships with
potential clients, and trying our best to make our projects the best in its
class. we are very serious that our clients project does not get hacked, is
never down, is beautiful, etc...

some people take the wrong attitude 'janji bayar' or 'bukan kerja aku' 
sadly 



On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:53 AM, aziman noor  wrote:

> Dear Myfrens,
> Actually, I'm in MOE already 8 years, include awareness to OSS. Frankly,
> you cannot simply push OSS to school with drastic movement.
> 1st, you need to tackle on awareness for each school or if you good enough,
> can convince PPD to involve.
> If we want go nego or request to highest level, in here MOE itself, you
> will upset and maybe take a long journey. I already try it for many years.
>
> So, this year I try new movement/ method. I meet IT Administer / school IT
> lab administer, especially in SeK Menengah which now there are OSS silibus
> in IT subject. And then you said you want to held OSS talk in 2 hours or
> more, depend on you. You can request during Hari Kantin, Hari ICT or
> anytimes.
>
> And, for the cost, usually the PIBG will pay but you cannot expect much.
> I'm doing talk for free, but the PIBG still give me some for fuel. I only
> talk history of Linux, talk about Ubuntu, Edubuntu, Alice, and OSS carriers.
>
>
> Suddenly, after that talk, I got one projek in OSS for that school. The
> whole project cost 9K, but I make it in two phase, 5K and 4K.
>
> Just sharing to get you more interesting doing OSS awareness.
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:16 AM, Muhammad Hafiz wrote:
>
>> Agreed! :D
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Muhammad Hafiz
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini <
>> jipangmenje...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  for me, we should find more OSS app's developer rather than web
>>> developer..
>>> because from my perspective where's already bunch of web programmers out
>>> there..
>>> especially from universities..
>>>
>>> but still web programmers still need to enhance more about OpenWeb
>>>
>>> On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 09:16 +0800, aziman noor wrote:
>>>
>>> I already start this in Langat district. I talked 2 hours about OSS and
>>> need to done in two session because have a good respond from teachers, IT
>>> student (especially form 4 and form 5) which take ICT subject.
>>>
>>> I talked about linux fundamental, the chance in job wise, and the FREEDOM
>>> to become IT developer.
>>> And, that session I need meetup with PPD Langat some others day because
>>> also interested.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>  On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:36 PM, sweemeng ng 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  though comes the issue of the teacher knowing what is python or ruby,
>>> then also comes the issue of pressure from somewhere else. as even a lot of
>>> company in malaysia don't use those,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   yes i know i know, that is where osdc.my comes  in, to educate
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Azril Nazli Alias <
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: OSS In Our Education

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i like the idea of games

way back in 83, when i attended a programming class, among the projects
taught was a simple maths game. the idea was how to do a program that could
prompt a question, then respond to an input, and tracking the data. with a
timer.

maybe can teach to develop in j2me and transfer to their hphone. would be
fun and they can show off to their friends.

anything as long as it is not ms access (sql songsang), vb6 (obsolete) and
dreamweaver (too easy to write junk code).

anak saya pun suka main educational games. tapi kebelakangan ni susah betul
nak cari multimedia educational games ikut sukatan pembelajaran.

adapun score-a, tapi itu pun ujian tubi.

kalau pendidikan khas dapat buat mobile game untuk latih sign language
menarik juga.



On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Mohd Fadzil Md Arap wrote:

> Teach them how to hack WEP
>
> Teach how to play games in FOSS
>
> Teach them how to edit picture in FOSS and upload it in facebook
>
> Teach them how to play around Compiz
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: OSS In Our Education

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

oppp... betul tu. silap saya. i meant to say the small standalone java
mobile games that people can download over 90% of handphones and play on
standalone basis.

http://www.mobilerated.com/consumer/custom_search/open_source.html

http://j2me.ngphone.com/opensource/game.htm

kalau iphone atau android mahal lah pulak the phone, cheapest route is java




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Re: [osdcmy-public] Call For Paper Malaysian Government Open Source Software Conference 2010 (MyGOSSCON 2010)

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

saya pun dah submit - dalam bahasa inggeris

tajuk : using oss for developing an economic intelligence database

basic idea : kongsi pengalaman tentang oss software yg kami gunakan dan
kenapa. saya rasa kami dah guna at least 10 oss software - termasuk using
firefox / gnumeric / openoffice.org through command line as a cron job.
interesting stuff lain termasuk juga choosing between rhel / centos /
ubuntu. php framework / charting library / javascript framework. molap /
relational database.

closing date untuk cfp ialah 15 sep 2010



On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 9:42 AM, red1  wrote:

> Just submitted my paper in Bahasa Kebangsaan.
>
>
> On 7/25/10 10:58 PM, linuxmalaysia wrote:
>
>> Call For Paper Malaysian Government Open Source Software Conference
>> 2010 (MyGOSSCON 2010)
>>
>> The Malaysian Government's premier annual OSS conference, “The
>> Malaysian Government Open Source Software Conference” (MyGOSSCON 2010)
>> will be staged for its fourth successive year from 2nd to 3rd of
>> November 2010 at Putrajaya International Convention Centre, Putrajaya.
>>
>> We are now inviting all OSS enthusiasts and luminaries from ICT
>> Industry and OSS communities to submit their papers through "Call For
>> Papers" which is now open! All papers will be accepted until
>> Wednesday, 15th September 2010 and it is open for local and
>> international submissions.
>>
>> More information visit
>>
>> http://mygosscon.oscc.org.my/
>>
>> CFP registration form
>>
>> http://mygosscon.oscc.org.my/2010/cfp-registration-form
>>
>> On Jul 25, 3:19 pm, linuxmalaysia  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Malaysian Government Open Source Software Conference 2010 (MyGOSSCON
>>> 2010)
>>>
>>> 2 November 2010 to 03 November 2010
>>> Putrajaya, Malaysia
>>>
>>> The Malaysian Government's premier annual OSS conference, “The
>>> Malaysian Government Open Source Software Conference” (MyGOSSCON 2010)
>>> will be staged for its fourth successive year from 2nd to 3rd of
>>> November 2010 at PICC Malaysia.
>>>
>>> The deadline for abstracts/proposals is 15 September 2010.
>>>
>>> Enquiries: mygoss...@oscc.org.my
>>> Web address:http://mygosscon.oscc.org.my/
>>> Sponsored by: Malaysian Public Sector Open Source Competency Centre
>>> (OSCC) MAMPU
>>>
>>> Archive
>>>
>>> http://www.conferencealerts.com/seeconf.mv?q=ca16i6a0
>>>
>>> http://oscc-mampu.blogspot.com/2010/07/malaysian-government-open-sour...
>>>
>>> Harisfazillah Jamel uses Aardvark to ask questions&  give answers
>>>
>>> http://vark.com/s/foGQ
>>>
>>>
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[osdcmy-public] OSS for Economic / Market Intelligence : FREE E-Mail Subscription of Commodity Prices

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Salam hormat

I would like to invite those who are interested in local commodity prices
(palm oil, rubber, pepper, and cocoa) to subscribe to the free email service
at http://k-commodities.kppk.gov.my

   1. Register as a guest account at
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   2. After your registration has been activated, login at
   http://k-commodities.kppk.gov.my/
   3. Visit the Daily Commodity Prices dashboard at
   http://k-commodities.kppk.gov.my/dashboard/dataset/665
   4. Then click the Subscribe button and choose Daily / Weekly / Monthly to
   receive an email of the Daily Commodity Prices
   5. To Unsubscribe click on the View Dashboard Subscription link below
   your username on the left column, then click Unsubscribe

There is also another Daily Commodity Prices Moving Average that can be
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The page will be delivered in png file format, so the data and formating is
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Re: [osdcmy-public] OSS for Economic / Market Intelligence : FREE E-Mail Subscription of Commodity Prices

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

sweemeng

the prices data are scrapped on daily basis from web pages at
www.mpob.gov.my, www.lgm.gov.my, www.mpb.gov.my and www.koko.gov.my.

should be able to scrape from us easily since it is just plain html. data is
updated at 1.00am past midnite.

after this i am trying to figure out how to add rpy / numpy statistical
function to our javascript driven web spreadsheet. something to rival
openoffice.org and m$ excel statistical functions.

will probably need to take a refresher class from you on data mining ;-)



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> /me in data mining heaven
>
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
> rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Salam hormat
>>
>> I would like to invite those who are interested in local commodity prices
>> (palm oil, rubber, pepper, and cocoa) to subscribe to the free email service
>> at http://k-commodities.kppk.gov.my
>>
>>1. Register as a guest account at
>>http://k-commodities.kppk.gov.my/user/register
>>2. After your registration has been activated, login at
>>http://k-commodities.kppk.gov.my/
>>3. Visit the Daily Commodity Prices dashboard at
>>http://k-commodities.kppk.gov.my/dashboard/dataset/665
>>4. Then click the Subscribe button and choose Daily / Weekly / Monthly
>>to receive an email of the Daily Commodity Prices
>>5. To Unsubscribe click on the View Dashboard Subscription link below
>>your username on the left column, then click Unsubscribe
>>
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Job Posting :: Killer PHP and Rubyist Wanted - MindValley

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i dont f...@#b%k

but i would love to attend. i hope you dont mind friendly corporate
espionage ;-)

where's your office ?



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> By the way, to all interested participants, MindValley is having a Career
> Info Session to inform you on the culture and some exciting perks of joining
> the family. Do join even if you're partially interested to see if this may
> change your mind ;-)
>
> *MindValley: Careers for 2010 Info 
> Session
> *
> Location: MindValley HQ,
> Time: 7:00PM Wednesday, August 18th
>
> Further Details:
> http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=135329046508764
>
>
> -BRIAN RITCHIE
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>
>
> On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 2:01 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE 
> wrote:
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>> Thanks a mill Nuhaa. The tech team will appreciate if more women join us
>> too. In case you guys don't know MindValley is an equal opportunity
>> employer with over 60% of the employees being women. Its a great place to
>> learn in case anyone feels left out.
>>
>> -BRIAN RITCHIE
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 12:42 PM, nuhaa  wrote:
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>>> have posted this on fosschix fan page :)
>>>
>>> Nuhaa All Bakry / cawanpink
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>>> http://fosschix.my
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>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Azril Nazli Alias <
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>>>
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[osdcmy-public] salam ramadhan mubarak

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salam ramadhan mubarak to all

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Re: [osdcmy-public] teori oss

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

masa zaman saya dulu, cbt (computer based training) agak berjaya.

sekarang ni pun nampak educational cd untuk anak2 saya agak berkesan juga.

tapi lms (macam) oum pula tidak nampak keberkesanan.

mungkin computer adalah lebih sesuai untuk structured training,


2010/8/15 red1 

> On 8/15/10 12:09 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel wrote:
>
>> Setuju dengan Red1. Banyak projek LMS gagal ... Tak perlu dicerita
>> panjang nanti ada yang marah...
>>
>>
>  jangan bimbang terhadap kemarahan manusia. Sesungguhnya Dr. Nurhizam Saife
> sendiri pun memberikan pendapat sedemikian secara akademik kepada wakil
> Libya temph hari yang ingin memperkenalkan eLearning. Juga guru eLearning
> Malaysia (lupa nama) dari UKM telah memberi nasihat  berjaga-jaga terhadap
> soal ini. Mungkin hasil dari kegagalan demi kegagalan yang disebut oleh Sidi
> Haris.
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Its The Rakyat That We Need To Convince Not The Government

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

salam azmi

your comments work both ways

as a boss who reviews documentation from staff, the learning curve of PROPER
use of an office suite is steep for newbies (example proper use of heading,
paragraph and page styles). i still see lots of rubbish [Tab] instead of
proper paragraph indents, using typed number, then [tab] then heading title,
instead of the simple paragraph heading style

the m$ 2010 requires additional familiarisation as it has made use of the
ribbon icon a hide-and-seek game. to fit their horrendous large icons, m$
have resorted to hiding them behind other obscure icons. try doing a 300
page admin manual on a 8.9" inch screen netbook with those large icons
taking up 25% of the screen !

if everyone used oo.o open formats, there will not be any problems of
formatting.

if the users can afford to pay for the m$ office licenses (they are paying
for it right ?), then by all means make the most of it.

other than the 2 concluding points you made, i would also like to add:
stronger enforcement against software piracy
raising society's ethics against 'stealing'

personally, i cant afford to have 4 copies of m$ office for each of the 4
computers at my home, therefore myself, my wife, my 10 year old daughter and
my 5 year old son make do with oo.o . even my 74 year old mother makes do
with oo.o . my children use ubuntu exclusively on the pc clone.

open source is not just about linux and openoffice.org and the desktop. just
think, if there were no linux / php / python - would there be google or 
f...@#b%k
? if you are a f...@#b%k user, you are already a part user of open source.



On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 4:44 PM, azmi salim  wrote:

> OpenOffice.org Challenges:
>
> 1) Learning Curve (kinda steep for newbies)
> 2) Non-intuitive interface (compared to the latest m$ edition), hard to
> navigate for newbies
> 3) Compatibility (we have to take it at point blank that most of the file
> is in m$ format). thus making people  goes berserk when all those format
> lari..especially when doing presentation
>
> --> unlesss there is some highly significant advantage towards using OOo,
> apart from the normal 'FREE' and 'Open' words, which the end-user rarely
> cares about, people will at the end rollback to m$. if they cannot use, they
> will lari.
>
> --> I'm speaking based on small experience of some project, and inviting
> (expecting) some flames.
>
> --> if we are introducing Open Source stuffs to g33x, that's fine, but we
> are living in the real world, where normal people don't really understand
> the difference between command prompt and terminal
>
>
>
> Thus, humbly i do think,
> --> there's a need to revamp the navigational interface
> --> there's a need for proper training ecosystem
>
>
> Regards,
> AZMI
>
> On 15 August 2010 15:52, archayl  wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 05:52 +0800, Harisfazillah Jamel wrote:
>> > Assalamualaikum and salam sejahtera,
>> >
>> > I have reading numbers of email regarding the Open Source Software
>> > (OSS) and our government in this list and we know how hard to get OSS
>> > into the government selection and option.
>> >
>> > I keep on asking myself, why? Why our policy makers hard to to get OSS
>> > as the main and important option in selection of software and the
>> > answer is only one ...( err may be two points)
>> >
>> > We have money to buy proprietary and we don't care how much we going
>> > to spend because its not our money.
>> >
>> > Wow its hit me. After having sahur with nasi and sambal ikan sardin
>> > ... Its not about Government money its about our money. The Rakyat.
>> >
>> > If Rakyat (people) know how much that we have spend to buy other
>> > software rather then OSS and much its can be save and what OSS can do
>> > to build our nation... I believe its will change the policy and
>> > perspective ...
>> >
>> > We should focusing in convincing The Rakyat the benefit of OSS and
>> > making sure that The Rakyat will pressure our government OSS should be
>> > the main and important option in selection of software.
>> >
>> > How ? We should discuss this
>> > When ? Now ... We should get The Rakyat know right away
>> > What ? Its all about people power of selection of choices
>> > Who ? We are. We are The Rakyat.
>> > Where ? Every state and every where.
>> >
>> > Set our target right, and we should get this done properly
>> >
>> > Thank you 
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[osdcmy-public] oracle sues google over android and java

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

as i expected

http://www.zdnetasia.com/oracle-sues-google-over-android-and-java-62202059.htm?scid=nl_z_tgos

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Re: [osdcmy-public] Job Posting :: Killer PHP and Rubyist Wanted - MindValley

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

brian

i am really sorry, that i would not be able to attend this evening.

still in the office assisting a staff who is unwell.



On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 1:33 AM, BRIAN RITCHIE wrote:

> Raja Iskandar,
>
> MindValley HQ,
> A-23A-13A, (23a floor) Menara UOA Bangsar, 5, Jalan Bangsar Utama 1, (the
> highest building, right off Bangsar LRT Station)
> Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
>
> Navyn,
>
>   The salary is competitive though it will also depend on the skill of the
> developer. We also compensate the employees with flexible bonuses which are
> paid out quarterly. You'll learn more about this and get to meet some of the
> team at the event that will be able to give you more details. :-)
>
> Its also an opportunity to check out one of the best looking offices in MY
> in my opinion.
>
> -BRIAN RITCHIE
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
> rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> i dont f...@#b%k
>>
>> but i would love to attend. i hope you dont mind friendly corporate
>> espionage ;-)
>>
>> where's your office ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 5:51 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE > > wrote:
>>
>>> By the way, to all interested participants, MindValley is having a Career
>>> Info Session to inform you on the culture and some exciting perks of joining
>>> the family. Do join even if you're partially interested to see if this may
>>> change your mind ;-)
>>>
>>> *MindValley: Careers for 2010 Info 
>>> Session<http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=135329046508764>
>>> *
>>> Location: MindValley HQ,
>>> Time: 7:00PM Wednesday, August 18th
>>>
>>> Further Details:
>>> http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=135329046508764
>>>
>>>
>>> -BRIAN RITCHIE
>>> MindValley
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 2:01 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE >> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks a mill Nuhaa. The tech team will appreciate if more women join us
>>>> too. In case you guys don't know MindValley is an equal opportunity
>>>> employer with over 60% of the employees being women. Its a great place to
>>>> learn in case anyone feels left out.
>>>>
>>>> -BRIAN RITCHIE
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 12:42 PM, nuhaa  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> have posted this on fosschix fan page :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Nuhaa All Bakry / cawanpink
>>>>> http://cawanpink.net
>>>>> http://fosschix.my
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Azril Nazli Alias <
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>>>>>
>>>>>> Wow Ruby On Rails
>>>>>>
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Re: [osdcmy-public] August Issue Linux Format Magazine from UK selects JStock as HotPick

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

congrats !



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> On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 05:40 -0700, yccheok wrote:
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> >
> > Just would like to share with you all, August Issue Linux Format
> > Magazine from UK selects JStock as HotPick.
> >
> > http://jstock.sourceforge.net/press/linux-format.pdf
> >
> > Just FYI, JStock is an open source project started from Malaysia
> > country ;)
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[osdcmy-public] i am now the owner of the internet domain economy !

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

salam ramadhan to all

i am now the owner to the internet domain name econ*o*my (it is actually
econ dot my)

i want to make the dot a nice big black / red / blue dot

not easy to get a word that ends with "omy"

bought the .my domain name for only rm36 / year at exabytes.com.my

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[osdcmy-public] lenovo thinkpad x100e ships with openoffice.org

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

salam ramadhan to all

received my lenovo thinkpad x100e which ships with windows 7 starter and
openoffice.org (the installer file that you need to double-click to
install).

fantastic ! and no m$ works, nor m$ office, nor evaluation copy of
anti-virus.

this is courtesy of the maxis broadband promo which includes 4 months of
free maxis broadband access. specs are 11" screen, 1.5kg weight, 6 cell
battery, amd neo processor, and 2gb ram. a nice upgrade for the current acer
aspire one.

will install a copy of ubuntu netbook later. then start thinking of moving
all those files !

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Re: [osdcmy-public] i am now the owner of the internet domain economy !

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

red1... hahaha... i dont think that will be ever approved

econ is a more used abbreviation than econo

i guess sod is a more often used slang as in sod off rather than sodo

some other words that can go
autonomy
anatomy



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> good catch ... also http://sodo.my
>
>
> On 8/20/10 7:59 PM, Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan wrote:
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>> you should buy econo.my instead :)
>>
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Re: [osdcmy-public] lenovo thinkpad x100e ships with openoffice.org

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

whoa... did not know that there was a 3g chip inside. anyway, maxis gave me
a 3g usb modem - which works. the only problem i noted is that using ubuntu
netbook, need to do the updates before the wifi will work.



On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte <
msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hope that the built in 3G chip works under Linux
>
> Eric
>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
> rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> salam ramadhan to all
>>
>> received my lenovo thinkpad x100e which ships with windows 7 starter and
>> openoffice.org (the installer file that you need to double-click to
>> install).
>>
>> fantastic ! and no m$ works, nor m$ office, nor evaluation copy of
>> anti-virus.
>>
>> this is courtesy of the maxis broadband promo which includes 4 months of
>> free maxis broadband access. specs are 11" screen, 1.5kg weight, 6 cell
>> battery, amd neo processor, and 2gb ram. a nice upgrade for the current acer
>> aspire one.
>>
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Re: [osdcmy-public] August Issue Linux Format Magazine from UK selects JStock as HotPick

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

hmmm... the jstock on usb stick sounds interesting.

it would be really interesting if you can bundle jstock in the celcom /
maxis bb usb stick.

eric, can you give it a try with your suse mgmt ? i have not come across
anyone doing bundling apps on broadband usb modem before. so this could be
your great blue ocean.





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> Hi yccheok,
>
> Aha! I though JStock sounded familiar when I was busy devouring my monthly
> Linux Format. Awesome stuff.
>
> Would you like to package your application as an appliance; i.e. with a
> complete OS and pap stack? Maybe you can do you very own JStock Live CD or
> Live USB Stick.
>
> You can do so with SUSE Studio. Registration is free.
>
> Hope to hear more great stuff from you.
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:40 PM, yccheok  wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Just would like to share with you all, August Issue Linux Format
>> Magazine from UK selects JStock as HotPick.
>>
>> http://jstock.sourceforge.net/press/linux-format.pdf
>>
>> Just FYI, JStock is an open source project started from Malaysia
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Re: [osdcmy-public] lenovo thinkpad x100e ships with openoffice.org

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

i prefer the usb stick, can stick in any computer or on a wireless router
(like the one i have at home)

anyone know of any nokia 3g phone (less than rm1k) that can work as a 3g
modem for ubuntu ?

this article suggest it is a simple process of just pluggin the usb cable
between the nokia phone and the ubuntu computer
http://gerry.ws/2009/01/1087/nokia-mobile-phone-for-3g-connection-of-your-ubuntu-linux-computer.html

is this true ?

if it works, then maxis offers 3g package at only rm30 a month. not sure
what is the price for celcom or digi since i did not check these.





On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Adam Othman  wrote:

> So, Eric, which model is with the built in 3g chips? is it recommended tho?
> i tought broadband tend to release heat.. thus, more suitable for external..
> o.o
> I remembered last time was the dell promo, also with maxis 3g broadband..
>
> **Googled, seems quite a few lenovo model with built in 3g chips..
>
> Regards,
>
> Nik M Adam Hafiz
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte <
> msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hmm...my bad me thought it was the model with built in modem.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
>> rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> whoa... did not know that there was a 3g chip inside. anyway, maxis gave
>>> me a 3g usb modem - which works. the only problem i noted is that using
>>> ubuntu netbook, need to do the updates before the wifi will work.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte <
>>> msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hope that the built in 3G chip works under Linux
>>>>
>>>> Eric
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
>>>> rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> salam ramadhan to all
>>>>>
>>>>> received my lenovo thinkpad x100e which ships with windows 7 starter
>>>>> and openoffice.org (the installer file that you need to double-click
>>>>> to install).
>>>>>
>>>>> fantastic ! and no m$ works, nor m$ office, nor evaluation copy of
>>>>> anti-virus.
>>>>>
>>>>> this is courtesy of the maxis broadband promo which includes 4 months
>>>>> of free maxis broadband access. specs are 11" screen, 1.5kg weight, 6 cell
>>>>> battery, amd neo processor, and 2gb ram. a nice upgrade for the current 
>>>>> acer
>>>>> aspire one.
>>>>>
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>>>>> moving all those files !
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Re: [osdcmy-public] lenovo thinkpad x100e ships with openoffice.org

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

ok got it working with my se g900. just plug the cable and select phone
mode. damn.. it was easy.



On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte <
msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeap it's that simple. Been using my E71 and my now-dead SE K800 as modem
> on SUSE/Fedora/Ubuntu without issues.
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
> rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> i prefer the usb stick, can stick in any computer or on a wireless router
>> (like the one i have at home)
>>
>> anyone know of any nokia 3g phone (less than rm1k) that can work as a 3g
>> modem for ubuntu ?
>>
>> this article suggest it is a simple process of just pluggin the usb cable
>> between the nokia phone and the ubuntu computer
>>
>> http://gerry.ws/2009/01/1087/nokia-mobile-phone-for-3g-connection-of-your-ubuntu-linux-computer.html
>>
>> is this true ?
>>
>> if it works, then maxis offers 3g package at only rm30 a month. not sure
>> what is the price for celcom or digi since i did not check these.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Adam Othman wrote:
>>
>>> So, Eric, which model is with the built in 3g chips? is it recommended
>>> tho? i tought broadband tend to release heat.. thus, more suitable for
>>> external.. o.o
>>> I remembered last time was the dell promo, also with maxis 3g broadband..
>>>
>>> **Googled, seems quite a few lenovo model with built in 3g chips..
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Nik M Adam Hafiz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte <
>>> msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hmm...my bad me thought it was the model with built in modem.
>>>>
>>>> Eric
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
>>>> rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> whoa... did not know that there was a 3g chip inside. anyway, maxis
>>>>> gave me a 3g usb modem - which works. the only problem i noted is that 
>>>>> using
>>>>> ubuntu netbook, need to do the updates before the wifi will work.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 1:00 AM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte <
>>>>> msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope that the built in 3G chip works under Linux
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
>>>>>> rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> salam ramadhan to all
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> received my lenovo thinkpad x100e which ships with windows 7 starter
>>>>>>> and openoffice.org (the installer file that you need to double-click
>>>>>>> to install).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> fantastic ! and no m$ works, nor m$ office, nor evaluation copy of
>>>>>>> anti-virus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this is courtesy of the maxis broadband promo which includes 4 months
>>>>>>> of free maxis broadband access. specs are 11" screen, 1.5kg weight, 6 
>>>>>>> cell
>>>>>>> battery, amd neo processor, and 2gb ram. a nice upgrade for the current 
>>>>>>> acer
>>>>>>> aspire one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> will install a copy of ubuntu netbook later. then start thinking of
>>>>>>> moving all those files !
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: OSS In Our Education

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

anak saya guna edubuntu sejak umur 6 tahun. bagus sebagai permulaan untuk
mengguna computer. sekarang ini dia lebih cenderung kepada internet
educational flash games.




On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Boh Yap  wrote:

> hi,
>
> in targeting education, you have 2 groups - the students and teachers.
>
> One of the ways to push OSS in schools is to provide tools to make the
> admin work for teachers easier...
>
> perhaps tools like this could help:
>   http://www.schooltool.org/
>
> There's also Edubuntu, a version of Ubuntu that is loaded with SW
> suitable for schools, (students and teachers) and seems to have a wide
> variety for all ages:
>
> this is a note from the site: (for pks to install on existing Ubuntu...
>
> 
>
>  ubuntu-edu-preschool - Preschool ( < 5 years old) educational
> application bundle
>  ubuntu-edu-primary - Primary ( ages 6-12) educational application bundle
>  ubuntu-edu-secondary - Secondary ( ages 13-18) educational application
> bundle
>  ubuntu-edu-tertiary - Tertiary ( university level ) educational
> application bundle
>
> You can also install all Edubuntu packages, including artwork by
> installing the edubuntu-desktop package.
>
> Edubuntu packages for Kubuntu
>
> Kubuntu users can also now get a full educational desktop by
> installing the edubuntu-desktop-kde package. This contains some
> non-KDE components (like Gcompris) so the Edubuntu team is seeking
> feedback on the application selection and suggestions for new KDE
> applications to include in the future.
>
> 
>
> I have not used Edubuntu, but it certainly looks interesting for Edu.
>
> Mind, its all in English, so perhaps there can be a local translation team?
>
> So perhaps Edubuntu can serve as the tool to get into schools... it
> will need more evaluation... getting into a distro war now only allows
> M$ to win.
>
>
> PS, I'm more of a Debian user, but am getting partial to Ubuntu
> and have always been a Mac User (on the desktop)
>
> I have used (not just play with..) Caldera (sold to Novell),
> Slackware, Mandrake (now Mandriva), RedHat, and now Debian. I've
> installed and sysadmin production servers on all of these (except
> Caldera)... hence a distro war seems senseless to me.
>
>
> 2010/8/26 red1 :
> >> saya buat bagaimana menukarkan m$ access menjadi aplikasi php + mysql.
> > Hebat tu! Tahniah! :)
> >
> > On 8/25/10 12:31 PM, aziman noor wrote:
> >>
> >> cikgu,
> >> mengikut borang maklumbalas dari sekolah yang saya pergi, diorang lebih
> >> berminat untuk membuat sesuatu inovasi. Open Office itu adalah selingan
> atau
> >> satu pengetahuan untuk jauh sikit dr M$.
> >> Saya ada tunjuk dalam 'bengkel segera', bagaimana membuat aplikasi mudah
> >> mengunakan php, dalam kes tersebut saya buat bagaimana menukarkan m$
> access
> >> menjadi aplikasi php + mysql. Bengkel tuh saya rancang 30 minit, tapi
> ramai
> >> yang berminat menjadikan berlarutan sampai 1 jam lebih. Sekolah tersebut
> >> memberi slot kepada saya 2 jam sempena Hari ICT mereka, tapi rasanya
> dekat 4
> >> jam jugak lah termasuk 'talk' pasal Asas Linux[asal,kernel,fungsi]
> >>
> >> Sekarang sibuk sangat, sepatutnya kena bagi talk lagi sebelum raya, tapi
> >> ditunda.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Fwd: Intrusion Prevention

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

salam.

are you running your own web server ? or shared hosting ?

what os are you using ? if you are running ubuntu, try using the tools for
firewall and apparmor.

starting point:
http://www.ubuntu.com/server/features/security
https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/firewall.html

also worth the money to buy a copy of a server admin book - which provides a
1-2-3 of setting up a secure sever. i use michael jang's - but this is for
ubuntu 8.04, so will be a little outdated compared to the current 10.04lts.
but the principles are the same. there a lot of steps, so no shortcuts.




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> Subject: Intrusion Prevention
> To: owasp-malaysia-boun...@lists.owasp.org
>
>
> Is there any tools that we can use to prevent intrusion? Paid or Free is
> not the hot cake...
>
> Also, is there any patch we can use for Apache Web Server?
>
> I'm worried because there IS an attempt to deface my server, as you all can
> see here my server has been defaced: http://myne.tk/hacked/Indonesia.html
>
> An attack of such DDOS also detected on 31 August 2010 on 00:09 where it
> takes 335 Megabytes of free bandwidth out during the attack.
>
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Fwd: Intrusion Prevention

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

yup, betul tu. ddos need to be secured at the router.

tapi memang sedih betul lah with the indon v malaysia cyber war.

memang tak senang lena esp kalau ada .gov.my sites ! took us 4 weeks to
secure the web app we developed. hosted on centos and ubuntu server lts
(easier software management)

kami punya own company sites on shared hosting tak dapat nak access ! tak
tahu lah apa yg tengah jadi.


On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim <
ihsan.juna...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You can't drop DDOS at your gateway or the server. You'll need your
> bandwidth provider to drop the traffic at their router or firewall. If
> you run BGP with your provider, you can blackhole or flowspec the DDOS
> traffic.
>
> On 31 August 2010 21:45, arora anne  wrote:
> > modsecurity-web application firewall + ossec
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:26 PM, simpleLinux <2fz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> -- Forwarded message --
> >> From: simpleLinux <2fz...@gmail.com>
> >> Date: Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:25 PM
> >> Subject: Intrusion Prevention
> >> To: owasp-malaysia-boun...@lists.owasp.org
> >>
> >>
> >> Is there any tools that we can use to prevent intrusion? Paid or Free is
> >> not the hot cake...
> >>
> >> Also, is there any patch we can use for Apache Web Server?
> >>
> >> I'm worried because there IS an attempt to deface my server, as you all
> >> can see here my server has been defaced:
> >> http://myne.tk/hacked/Indonesia.html
> >>
> >> An attack of such DDOS also detected on 31 August 2010 on 00:09 where it
> >> takes 335 Megabytes of free bandwidth out during the attack.
> >>
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Fwd: Intrusion Prevention

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

bodoh betul lah apa yg nak dibanggakan dengan aktiviti yang salah ?

indon hack malaysian site adalah perbuatan yg salah

malaysian hack indon site pun perbuatan yg salah !

semua akan rugi dan dapat publisiti yg buruk

terutama the open source community sebab dalam list yg kena hack beratus
guna linux !




On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 3:46 AM, Hasan Abu Bakar  wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 3:38 AM, Mohd Yusnizam Mohamad <
> myusni...@opensource.org.my> wrote:
>
>> revenge
>>
>> http://zone-h.org/archive/published=0/notifier=ahlisyurgacrew
>>
>> Total notifications: *234* of which *234* single ip and *0* mass
>> defacements
>>
>
> 294 - 234, but still...
>
>
>
>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 3:35 AM, Hasan Abu Bakar wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Mohd Yusnizam Mohamad <
>>> myusni...@opensource.org.my> wrote:
>>>
>>>> FYI
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://nasional.kompas.com/read/2010/08/31/22434071/Lawan.Pelecehan.oleh.Malaysia.-5
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Adakah kita kalah pada kemerdekaan tahun ni? 294 website Malaysia kena
>>> hack. where have all the Malaysian hackers gone? :(
>>> Please secure your sites. At least ask if you don't know how to. Only
>>> hackers can fight hackers.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 12:21 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
>>>> rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> yup, betul tu. ddos need to be secured at the router.
>>>>>
>>>>> tapi memang sedih betul lah with the indon v malaysia cyber war.
>>>>>
>>>>> memang tak senang lena esp kalau ada .gov.my sites ! took us 4 weeks to
>>>>> secure the web app we developed. hosted on centos and ubuntu server lts
>>>>> (easier software management)
>>>>>
>>>>> kami punya own company sites on shared hosting tak dapat nak access !
>>>>> tak tahu lah apa yg tengah jadi.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim <
>>>>> ihsan.juna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You can't drop DDOS at your gateway or the server. You'll need your
>>>>>> bandwidth provider to drop the traffic at their router or firewall. If
>>>>>> you run BGP with your provider, you can blackhole or flowspec the DDOS
>>>>>> traffic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 31 August 2010 21:45, arora anne  wrote:
>>>>>> > modsecurity-web application firewall + ossec
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:26 PM, simpleLinux <2fz...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> -- Forwarded message --
>>>>>> >> From: simpleLinux <2fz...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >> Date: Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:25 PM
>>>>>> >> Subject: Intrusion Prevention
>>>>>> >> To: owasp-malaysia-boun...@lists.owasp.org
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Is there any tools that we can use to prevent intrusion? Paid or
>>>>>> Free is
>>>>>> >> not the hot cake...
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Also, is there any patch we can use for Apache Web Server?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I'm worried because there IS an attempt to deface my server, as you
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> >> can see here my server has been defaced:
>>>>>> >> http://myne.tk/hacked/Indonesia.html
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> An attack of such DDOS also detected on 31 August 2010 on 00:09
>>>>>> where it
>>>>>> >> takes 335 Megabytes of free bandwidth out during the attack.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> --
>>>>>> >> Fariz Luqman
>>>>>> >> The Chairman of SimpleLinux
>>>>>> >> Visit: http://www.simplelinux.tk
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> "There IS a Malaysian Linux Distro"
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>

[osdcmy-public] mygosscon 36hr webdev contest

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

salam

anyone have registered for the mygosscon 36hr webdev contest ? there
is arm10k grand winner prize. nice for 2 days work.

krimnet not participating this year. but there will be at least 1 terengganu
team participating this year.

eventho krimnet did not win any prizes last year, but the the team learned
quite a bit that we included in our apps.

http://mygosscon.oscc.org.my/2010/

dateline extended to 6 sep 2010.

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Re: [osdcmy-public] Fwd: Intrusion Prevention

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

5 tips for dealing with rootkits
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/five-tips/?p=272&tag=nl.e101

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:14 PM, simpleLinux <2fz...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Linux has a verrryyy common trojan, namely Rootkit that one can
> gain super-user privilege toward some root directory
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkit
>
> They can easily gained access to your root of a website and do something
> bad there
>
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>> The Best offense is . defense. :D
>>
>> 2010/9/1 simpleLinux <2fz...@gmail.com>
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Re: [osdcmy-public] How is the progress of OSDC.my registration with ROS?

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yes, open source developers club of malaysia (osdc.my) has submitted the
application for registration with ros. i believe the proterm committee
members have already responded to a query by the ros as well. the
application for registration, then needs to make a round of approvals.




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> Whoa! OSDC.MY register with ROS?
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>> Menarik ... Will update ...
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[osdcmy-public] cpu bug on plus minus operations detected

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guys, need some help testing this out

taufiq has detected a bug involving a plus minus operations that should
result in zero but does not !

try the following in openoffice calc, ms excel, javascript, google calc

=161001.165-10.009-6.7-1000.456 // will not return zero

=161001.165+(-10.009-6.7-1000.456) // this does

=((161001.165-10.009)-6.7)-1000.456 // and this not

read the test case :
http://software.krimnet.com/cpu-precision-bug-plus-minus-operation.htm#comment-491

so far we have tested on intel atom, intel core2, intel xeon

need to see if the same problem happens on amd cpu

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Re: [osdcmy-public] cpu bug on plus minus operations detected

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i was also reading that article. but in that article, all the examples given
involves multiplication and divisions and exponents. this has been noted
before.

the bug have the same root cause, but none has given a simple addition and
subtraction case example yet. it is just 4 numbers and 3 decimal places.

the example test case is actual data from our ida application. fortunately,
the 12th decimal place is not significant. but imagine the problem occurring
in astrophysics or quantum mechanics, dealing with pie and prime numbers !

i wonder how is it handled in nuclear research and atomic super colliders ?
small error - but wham ! bang ! good bye world !

http://software.krimnet.com/cpu-precision-bug-plus-minus-operation.htm


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> This is floating point rounding causing you hassles. Read this for
> more info: http://docs.sun.com/source/806-3568/ncg_goldberg.html (that
> gest very technical though :) )
>
> On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 10:01, Raja Iskandar Shah
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> >
> > taufiq has detected a bug involving a plus minus operations that should
> > result in zero but does not !
> >
> > try the following in openoffice calc, ms excel, javascript, google calc
> >
> > =161001.165-10.009-6.7-1000.456 // will not return zero
> >
> > =161001.165+(-10.009-6.7-1000.456) // this does
> >
> > =((161001.165-10.009)-6.7)-1000.456 // and this not
> >
> > read the test case :
> >
> http://software.krimnet.com/cpu-precision-bug-plus-minus-operation.htm#comment-491
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Re: [osdcmy-public] cpu bug on plus minus operations detected

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cool ;-)

i wonder if the bug is identical across all 32bit and 64bit cpu ? or intel
treats them differently than amd, than sunsparc, than arm ?


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> Usually the programming languages used for those kind of programs have
> their own datatypes for ultra-high precision floating points. A 32 or
> 64 bit datatype is not enough for them anyway. They use all kinds of
> tricks/smart-assing to get around floating point rounding errors.
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[osdcmy-public] python : looking for charting library for svg and image map (and pretty as well)

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python people

any recommendation for a charting library for producing charts in svg format
with image map. if possible some cacheing like in pchart.

we want to replace pchart in our php application - mainly because it does
not produce svg formats and because the projects looks like it is now
inactive.

usage of the chart will be like here :
http://eids.treasury.gov.my/dashboard/dataset/32

no java and no flash !

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Re: [osdcmy-public] Silverlight vs HTML5?

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same for me as well. using firefox 3.6 on ubuntu netbook remix 10.04

the http://go-mono.com/moonlight/ site is nice though, it even has a nice
ubuntu icon button to install moonlight.

i would stick with open standards. but ok lah if ms wants to champion
silverlight - competition, trying out, testing and failures makes a good
recipe for innovation. anyway it gives something for novell to continue
being relevant (ouch !)

i wonder if silverlight works on ie6 ! pening kepala sebab masih ada
end-users still stuck with ie6 ! these end-users are finance people from one
of the top public universities in malaysia ! we were horrified ! macamana
lah the it administrators biarkan users gunakan an outdated and vulnerable
software.

if you are an it administrator working in a public university... tolonglah
buat security audit on the end user computers.


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>
> http://www.lagismooth.com/
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[osdcmy-public] selamat hari raya

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salam aidil fitri dan maaf zahir dan batin

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[osdcmy-public] visualisation of palm oil exports to 100 countries

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salam hari malaysia to all

need to test our dashboard widgets for web spreadsheet and mapping
http://k-commodities.kppk.gov.my/dashboard/dataset/733

it is supposed to be accessible only to registered accounts

you can register for a guest account here
http://k-commodities.kppk.gov.my/user/register/guest

the system automatically gets the data from
http://econ.mpob.gov.my/economy/EID_web.htm (boring !) then calculate the
consolidation by continent (refer to spreadsheet) and also calculate the
cummulative for the year (refer to the mapping).

any suggestion is very much welcome

among the things that we are looking at is to make

   - mapping markers at least color coded so we can distinguish the 0-25%,
   26-50%, 51-75%, and 76-100% range
   - spreadsheet charting either using raphael svg javascript library
   (thanks sweemeng for the suggestion) or jquery html5 canvas
   
http://software.krimnet.com/quickly-turn-any-html-table-chart-charting-with-javascripthtml5-visualalize-plugin.htm
   - faster loading of the navigation tabs

i am accessing the page from kuala terengganu using maxis broadband with
firefox 3.6 on ubuntu netbook remix 10.04 on thinkpad x100e

if you know of any organisations that are interested in this type of data
visualisation, do let us know.

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[osdcmy-public] any comments about http://www.modsecurity.org

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salam 1malaysia

anyone used modsecurity on centos / rhel ? comments ?

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Re: [osdcmy-public] any comments about http://www.modsecurity.org

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is it easy to use and administer ? any problems so far ?



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Re: [osdcmy-public] any comments about http://www.modsecurity.org

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nice. thanks.



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> No, it is up and running till today...
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> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
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>> is it easy to use and administer ? any problems so far ?
>>
>>
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>>> Salam...
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Re: [osdcmy-public] any comments about http://www.modsecurity.org

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ok noted. thanks for the info. will check up on suhosin as well.

for server with single web app, i guess modsecurity is ok ?



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> Kalau kita handle hosting, mod_security banyak kacau application dalam
> tu. Tak sesuai untuk shared hosting yang banyak client, banyak rules
> nak kena adjust. Suhosin lagi baik, kalau nak protect PHP dari apa-apa
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> > It is easy to administer... It has the latest PHP version 5 as well as
> PHP 4
> > in case you want to use the older one.. It has SQL modules installed and
> to
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> >
> > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:28 PM, simpleLinux <2fz...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> No, it is up and running till today...
> >>
> >> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah
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> >>> is it easy to use and administer ? any problems so far ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:00 PM, simpleLinux <2fz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Salam...
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> >>>>
> >>>> On 9/21/10, Raja Iskandar Shah  wrote:
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Re: [osdcmy-public] any comments about http://www.modsecurity.org

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

amran, which is easier to administer ? rhel / centos / ubuntu ?

i need to have php 5.3+, which means that rhel and centos needs the epel and
remi repositories. but updating from the remi repo is so slow ;-(

since ubuntu 10.04 already has php 5.3 and mysql 5.1, it looks much easier
to just use ubuntu 10.04.



On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah  wrote:

> ok noted. thanks for the info. will check up on suhosin as well.
>
> for server with single web app, i guess modsecurity is ok ?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Ahmad Amran Kapi wrote:
>
>> Kalau kita handle hosting, mod_security banyak kacau application dalam
>> tu. Tak sesuai untuk shared hosting yang banyak client, banyak rules
>> nak kena adjust. Suhosin lagi baik, kalau nak protect PHP dari apa-apa
>> vulnerable.
>>
>> Ahmad Amran Kapi
>> Art In Software Sdn Bhd
>> Suite 2.5 Inkubator K-Ekonomi
>> 75450 Ayer Keroh
>> Melaka.
>> 06-2322464 / 013-6102545
>> http://www.aist.com.my
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:29 PM, simpleLinux <2fz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > It is easy to administer... It has the latest PHP version 5 as well as
>> PHP 4
>> > in case you want to use the older one.. It has SQL modules installed and
>> to
>> > be configured altogether at one place
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:28 PM, simpleLinux <2fz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> No, it is up and running till today...
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> is it easy to use and administer ? any problems so far ?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:00 PM, simpleLinux <2fz...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Salam...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you have Windows (yet might not satisfied the main point, you can
>> >>>> have WampServer with ModSecurity installed
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 9/21/10, Raja Iskandar Shah  wrote:
>> >>>> > salam 1malaysia
>> >>>> >
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Re: [osdcmy-public] any comments about http://www.modsecurity.org

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

supposedly to protect apache

part of advisory for govt websites.

i will forward the email in a short while, will be useful for web developers
to at least know some of the common things for govt websites.





On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini <
jipangmenje...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  modsecurity setakat ni tak ada masalah dalam Ubuntu server :)
>
> tapi guna ni untuk filter web content dalam pejabat atau incoming traffic?
>
>
> On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 15:07 +0800, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:
>
> amran, which is easier to administer ? rhel / centos / ubuntu ?
>
> i need to have php 5.3+, which means that rhel and centos needs the epel
> and remi repositories. but updating from the remi repo is so slow ;-(
>
> since ubuntu 10.04 already has php 5.3 and mysql 5.1, it looks much easier
> to just use ubuntu 10.04.
>
>
>
>  On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
> rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ok noted. thanks for the info. will check up on suhosin as well.
>
> for server with single web app, i guess modsecurity is ok ?
>
>
>
>   On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Ahmad Amran Kapi 
> wrote:
>
> Kalau kita handle hosting, mod_security banyak kacau application dalam
> tu. Tak sesuai untuk shared hosting yang banyak client, banyak rules
> nak kena adjust. Suhosin lagi baik, kalau nak protect PHP dari apa-apa
> vulnerable.
>
> Ahmad Amran Kapi
> Art In Software Sdn Bhd
> Suite 2.5 Inkubator K-Ekonomi
> 75450 Ayer Keroh
> Melaka.
> 06-2322464 / 013-6102545
> http://www.aist.com.my
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:29 PM, simpleLinux <2fz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It is easy to administer... It has the latest PHP version 5 as well as
> PHP 4
> > in case you want to use the older one.. It has SQL modules installed and
> to
> > be configured altogether at one place
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:28 PM, simpleLinux <2fz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> No, it is up and running till today...
> >>
> >> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah
> >>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> is it easy to use and administer ? any problems so far ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:00 PM, simpleLinux <2fz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Salam...
> >>>>
> >>>> If you have Windows (yet might not satisfied the main point, you can
> >>>> have WampServer with ModSecurity installed
> >>>>
> >>>> On 9/21/10, Raja Iskandar Shah  wrote:
> >>>> > salam 1malaysia
> >>>> >
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[osdcmy-public] Fwd: Fwd: Notis Ancaman Keselamatan ICT

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

berkaitan protecting govt websites

Tuan/Puan,

 Dimaklumkan bahawa GCERT telah mengesan ancaman pencerobohan server web
ekoran konflik antara Malaysia dengan negara jiran dan juga sambutan Hari
Kemerdekaan baru-baru ini.
Sehubungan dengan itu, Tuan/Puan adalah disarankan untuk membuat pengukukah
terhadap server dan aplikasi web agensi masing-masing seperti emel dibawah.

Disamping itu juga, Pihak CERT Agensi disarankan:

   1. Melaksanakan pemantauan berterusan ke atas transaksi log server dan
   rangkaian terutamanya yang melibatkan IP dari Indonesia.
   2. Menyemak dan menghapuskan fail-fail yang mencurigakan didalam server.



Sekian, Terima Kasih.

-GCERT, MAMPU


 Original Message   Subject: Notis Ancaman Keselamatan
ICT  Date:
Thu, 2 Sep 2010 11:28:50 +0800  From: Osman bin Abd. Aziz
 



  Tuan/Puan,

Dimaklumkan bahawa GCERT telah mengesan ancaman pencerobohan server web
ekoran konflik antara Malaysia dengan negara jiran dan juga sambutan Hari
Kemerdekaan baru-baru ini.

Sehubungan dengan itu, Tuan/Puan adalah disarankan untuk membuat pengukukah
terhadap server dan aplikasi web agensi masing-masing untuk mengelakkan dari
diceroboh seperti dibawah.

   1. Pengukuhan XAMPP   :
   http://robsnotebook.com/xampp-security-hardening ,
   
http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-windows.html#1221
   2. Pengukuhan server Apache   :
   http://www.symantec.com/connect/articles/securing-php-step-step
   3. Memasang ModSecurity(App Firewall) : http://www.modsecurity.org/
   4. Memasang GreenSQL (DB Firewall): http://www.greensql.net/
   5. Mengaktifkan fail log server (rujuk Surat Arahan Ketua Pengarah MAMPU
   http://gcert.mampu.gov.my/doc/Pengaktifan%20Fail%20Log.pdf)
   6. Menaiktaraf aplikasi PHP dan CMS seperti Joomla dan Mambo ke versi
   terkini.
   7. Mengemaskini antivirus  dengan versi terkini.
   8. Menutup port-port pada server yang tidak diperlukan.
   9. Melakukan pemantauan pada aktiviti didalam rangkaian dan server.
   10. Mengemaskini dan update security patches bagi sistem pengoperasian.
   11. Rujuk laman web http://www.ictsecurity.gov.my dan
   http://gcert.mampu.gov.my untuk mengetahui sebarang vulnerability  yang
   ada.



Sekian dimaklumkan.

Terima Kasih.


*Osman Bin Abd. Aziz*
b/p Ketua Pengarah MAMPU
Jabatan Perdana Menteri
Aras 6, Blok B2, Parcel B
62502 PUTRAJAYA
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Re: [osdcmy-public] any comments about http://www.modsecurity.org

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

ok thanks.  huhuhu... lagi satu mailing list nak kena subscribe ;-(



On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Raja,
>
> Muzamir SUK Pahang do ask about this in OWASP ML. You can read the archive
> here.
>
> https://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-malaysia/2010-September/000479.html
>
> tq
>
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini
>  wrote:
> > modsecurity setakat ni tak ada masalah dalam Ubuntu server :)
> >
> > tapi guna ni untuk filter web content dalam pejabat atau incoming
> traffic?
> >
> > On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 15:07 +0800, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:
> >
> > amran, which is easier to administer ? rhel / centos / ubuntu ?
> >
> > i need to have php 5.3+, which means that rhel and centos needs the epel
> and
> > remi repositories. but updating from the remi repo is so slow ;-(
> >
> > since ubuntu 10.04 already has php 5.3 and mysql 5.1, it looks much
> easier
> > to just use ubuntu 10.04.
> >
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Re: [osdcmy-public] any comments about http://www.modsecurity.org

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

hehehe... link yang kau kasi tu pasal berkait nak guna kohanaphp (same macam
kami)

kami dah buat 200 page document untuk installation and configuration of
centos, php, mysql, kohanaphp, java, palo. tapi leceh sebab mirror asyik
sibuk ! lagi senang guna ubuntu server tak payah nak godek2 guna external
repo. also xfce ubuntu lighter than centos. kami perlukan x dan firefox dan
gnumeric untuk certain features running through cron jobs.

tapi still tak berapa puas hati berkaitan security. nak kena test2 dulu
sampai puas hati, then kami upload the whole document ke website kami.

baru jumpa an article on a few php security tools :
http://www.noupe.com/php/php-security-tips.html

kohanaphp, kalau code ikut procedure akan sanitize against sql injection and
xss.




On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:

> View archive tu pun ok bro. Muzamir ada dalam list ni... Nanti dia
> balas kot. Topik ni interest dia. :)
>
> How to for centos
>
> http://www.how2centos.com/installing-php-5-3-3-on-centos-5-5-tutorial/
>
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah
>  wrote:
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[osdcmy-public] unifi using joomla cms ?

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

check this out ! i wonder who is maintaining their website ?


   1. *UniFi*: Residential
Main
   Joomla! - the dynamic portal engine and content management system.
   www.*unifi*.my/*unifi*/index.php?option=com_content...id... -
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[osdcmy-public] php zend certification ?

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anyone know of the training provider for the zend php certification program
?

how do i go about to get this zend php certification ?

are there any other php certification program ?

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Re: [osdcmy-public] php zend certification ?

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

many thanks to mimos !

wish list for this :
1. eligible for mdec ict training grant
2. claimable under hrdf
3. eligible for smidec grants

when everything is concluded, dont forget to post here !



On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:21 PM, errazudin ishak
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> Raja/all,
>
> We(mimos) are in the middle of negotiation with our partner,Rynet (Zend
> representative for SEA) to embark on specialised zend php certification
> program for Malaysian PHP dudes/dudettes/enthusiast/etc.
>
> Hopefully, everything is gonna be finalised before end of year.
>
> Any help/feedback/input is greatly appreciated.
>
> on behalf of phpcoe.mimos.my
>
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
> rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> anyone know of the training provider for the zend php certification
>> program ?
>>
>> how do i go about to get this zend php certification ?
>>
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Fwd: [osdcmy-public] YTL Mobile competition extended 30 november 2010

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

i believe someone asked about this. good news is that the competition
dateline has been extended to 30 nov 2010

i have already registered.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Raja Iskandar Shah 
Date: Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [osdcmy-public] YTL Mobile competition
To: osdcmy-list 


thanks. total prizes is US$ 1 million (bukan rupiah bapak2 ibu2)

there are three categories :
ideas, software and devices.

for software the top 3 prizes are us$200k, us$120k and us$80k. for
malaysians there is an additional us$120k.

if you as a malaysian comes out top, then you stand to win us$200k + us$120k
= us$320k !

cool !

amran, kau masuk ke ? team aku pun nak cuba test power gok !




On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Ahmad Amran  wrote:

> Who want to be a millionaire ?  1 Mil prize.
>
> http://www.ytlcomms.my/EN/innovation_network.aspx
> http://www.myprize.my/
>
> Bukan sedara dalam pemberian hadiah.
>
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Masa Depan Perjuangan Open Source di Malaysia

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

salam rafe

in your email, you sound as though your career will take you elsewhere than
being involved with the open source community.

whatever path it is. i would like to thank you (and ritz and rozita and
mdec) for the great contribution in money terms and kicking the asses
(otherwise this osdc-my mailing list would not have existed).

salam all

i have spoken to 2 other pro-term committee members on the formalisation of
the osdc club. there are three things that need to be done and re-submitted
to registrar of societies. we will meet up next week to look at it, then we
will update everyone accordingly.





2010/10/4 rafe azsnal 

> Red1, where you fail others might succed. Is does not matter if I am
> speaking as an officer of mdec or as an individual of my own who see and
> insyaAllah capable to judge and see thing and to see people as they are.
> Have I ever reject anyone of you specially you red1? Have I ever not tried
> to help you? And between all those how many times have you promise me and
> yet not deliver. SME bank or whatever bank that you have experience will all
> applied to rules and procedures which i'll personally not bend only because
> of you and I'm sure the rest will do the same. The tunjuk jari is only a
> game without senses red1 being a world leader have not teach you anything
> brother specially out to respect others rules. I am not here to please you
> nor to make your own agenda my own. Please do understand that. I hope my
> works for the past two yrs plus have touch some heart and I hope I have
> bring some good to their lives. All the best red1 as my time has past and
> somehow I know you guys will do better as you were before.
>
> rafe
>
> On Oct 4, 2010 10:19 PM, "red1"  wrote:
>
> JAWAPAN yang sedemikian contoh dari seorang pegawai MDeC (yang saya cuba
> ingin faham tetapi gagal) menyokong sebabnya saya memanggil untuk satu
> pertubuhan bebas yang tidak perlu lagi merujuk atau mengemis dari mana-mana
> institusi kerajaan. Izinkan saya petik dari kata-kata Dato Salleh Majid
> semasa beliau tulis dalam Utusan Melayu tidak lama dahulu tentang perjuangan
> kaum Bumiputra dibawah MEB (walaupun saya bukan Bumi tetapi Cina Muslim).
> Masa itu saya bersarapan dengan beliau dan Dato telah menguatkan
> tanggapannya bahawa SME Bank dan institusi lain seumpamanya sebenarnya tidak
> membantu dalam semangat keusahawanan Bumiputera tetapi lebih kepada
> menghalang. In his own words, "Get out of our way" adalah baik bagi kaumnya
> sendiri.
>
> MDeC sendiri yang berjanji untuk memberikan RM10 juta kepada aliran sumber
> terbuka. Namun prosesnya tetap sama seolah tidak ada janji tersebut. Masih
> perlu borang yang sama dan lama dan tidak ada borang khas yang baru yang
> khusus untuk sumber terbuka. Perkara ini telah disahkan oleh beberapa
> daripada kami di sini semasa kami cuba mengutarakan perkara ini.
>
> Tak apalah.. tak baik bergaduh sekiranya hilang bahasa. Cukuplah sekadar
> saya tinggal dengan gesaan untuk menubuhkan sebuah pertubuhan tersebut.
> Nanti sudah tertubuh, barulah kita boleh bermesyuarat dengan bebas, tenang
> dan siuman dan menentukan resolusi yang bakal dikemukakan kepada pihak
> kerajaan. Antara resolusinya akan saya bertanyakan peranan MDeC yang
> sebenarnya.
>
> Sekian memohon maaf zahir bathin sekiranya bahasa saya masih kurang elok.
>
> Yang Ikhlas
> Redhuan
>
>
>
>
> On 10/4/10 4:41 PM, rafe azsnal wrote:
> >
> > all of you guys are funny!! reading this make me feel ...
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[osdcmy-public] Oracle formerly Sun : forking openoffice.org

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

Oracle bypassed: Programmers fork
OpenOffice

OpenOffice.org fans strike out on their own with the Document Foundation and
LibreOffice, without the backing of the software giant.
September 29, 2010 in Software  by
Stephen Shankland

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Re: [osdcmy-public] Fwd: Getting Started with App Inventor

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

i received my appinventor acceptance as well.

have not started yet. but thinking of making kids games : basic abc, 123,
alif ba ta 

will be a useful educational game esp for the android pad, like the csl
spice mi700 (selling at rm1599)
Search Results

   1. Using Google's *App Inventor* for Android on *Ubuntu* 10.04 (Lucid *
   
...*
   9 Aug 2010 *...* If you don't have an Android phone to try out your *apps
   * on there is an *emulator* included in the *App Inventor* Extras
   package. *...*
   www.greenhughes.com/.../using-google039s-*app*-*inventor*-android-*ubuntu
   *-1004-lucid -


sign up at the app inventor community
*App Inventor* for Android | Google
Groups
14 Jul 2010 *...* Welcome to the *App Inventor community*! NEW: Sept. 9:
Please use the new issues tracker for reporting bugs and requesting features
*...*
https://groups.google.com/group/*appinventor* -
Cached


i think mdec / icon would probably conduct appinventor courses in the
future, so it will be good to get a good headstart on this.




On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel  wrote:

> Now i have to buy a Android phone ... Or I can use emulator under Ubuntu
> 10.04 LTS.
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: App Inventor Team 
> Date: Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 3:50 AM
> Subject: Getting Started with App Inventor
> To: linuxmalay...@gmail.com
>
>
>   Welcome to App Inventor!
> *About App Inventor:*
> App Inventor for Android allows people with minimal programming experience
> to create simple, personal apps for Android devices. It has a number of
> features which ease app development. App Inventor is best suited for
> people who are eager to learn the basics of programming and are interested
> in making basic apps for their personal use.
>
>  *Remember the Beta Tag:*
> App Inventor is currently available as an invitation-based beta product. We
> are limiting access in order to ensure that our systems can handle the load.
> As a beta product App Inventor still has rough edges and missing features. In
> some cases the rough edges include un-pleasantries such as: installing
> Windows device drivers, installing Java on your computer, and fiddling with
> settings on your phone. We are working hard to smooth out the rough edges
> and we appreciate your use of App Inventor while we are in this beta state.
> It may sound a bit cliche but it really is true, your use of App Inventor
> today will help us make it better for the future! Now on to the good stuff.
>
> *Getting Started with App Inventor:*
> *
> *
> Complete these 3 steps to start using App Inventor:
>
>1. Set up  your
>phone and computer.
>2. Connect 
> your
>phone to your computer.
>3. Complete the basic 
> tutorials
>.
>
> Take your App Inventor knowledge to the next level by:
>
>- Working through the advanced 
> tutorials
>.
>- Reading the App Inventor reference 
> material.
>- Subscribing to the App Inventor user 
> forum
>.
>
>  Happy Inventing!
> Google's App Inventor Team
>
>
> You have received this mandatory email service announcement to update you
> about important changes to your Google App Inventor account.
>
> Google, Inc. | 1600 Amphitheater Parkway | Mountain View, California 94043
>2010 Google Inc. All Rights Reserved.
>
>
>
>
> Welcome to App Inventor!
>
>  *About App Inventor:*
> App Inventor for Android allows people with minimal programming experience
> to create simple, personal apps for Android devices. It has a number of
> features which ease app development. App Inventor is best suited for
> people who are eager to learn the basics of programming and are interested
> in making basic apps for their personal use.
>
>  *Remember the Beta Tag:*
> App Inventor is currently available as an invitation-based beta product. We
> are limiting access in order to ensure that our systems can handle the load.
> As a beta product App Inventor still has rough edges and missing features. In
> some cases the rough edges include un-pleasantries such as: installing
> Windows device drivers, installing Java on your computer, and fiddling with
> settings on your phone. We are working hard to smooth out the rough edges
> and we appreciate your use of App Inventor while we are in this beta state.
> It may sound a bit cliche but it really is true, your use of App In

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSDC.my Master Plan

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

salam boss

thanks for posting this up again.

i believe we can also add mimos into this picture : since they are now
working on the zend php certification

next week will try to sort out the osdc.my registration. then we can sit
down to a calendar for 2011.

i am interested in the workshops but at the moment, still no office facility
to do this.

i can try talking to kperak, if they are kind enough to host workshops for
the community in ipoh (naik train 2 jam aje ;-)

wakil mimos or mdec boleh tolong ke untuk host ?



On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:

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>
> Already plan and only need to be executed ...
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Re: [osdcmy-public] Fwd: Getting Started with App Inventor

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

screenshots of android emulator and app inventor on ubuntu linux netbook
remix 10.04

http://software.krimnet.com/open-source/google-android-app-inventor-ubuntu-linux-1004.htm



On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah  wrote:

> i received my appinventor acceptance as well.
>
> have not started yet. but thinking of making kids games : basic abc, 123,
> alif ba ta 
>
> will be a useful educational game esp for the android pad, like the csl
> spice mi700 (selling at rm1599)
> Search Results
>
>1. Using Google's *App Inventor* for Android on *Ubuntu* 10.04 (Lucid *
>
> ...*<http://www.greenhughes.com/content/using-google039s-app-inventor-android-ubuntu-1004-lucid>
>9 Aug 2010 *...* If you don't have an Android phone to try out your *
>apps* on there is an *emulator* included in the *App Inventor* Extras
>package. *...*
>www.greenhughes.com/.../using-google039s-*app*-*inventor*-android-*
>ubuntu*-1004-lucid -
>
>
> sign up at the app inventor community
> *App Inventor* for Android | Google 
> Groups<https://groups.google.com/group/appinventor>
> 14 Jul 2010 *...* Welcome to the *App Inventor community*! NEW: Sept. 9:
> Please use the new issues tracker for reporting bugs and requesting features
> *...*
> https://groups.google.com/group/*appinventor* - 
> Cached<http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:-iZBddsf8-8J:https://groups.google.com/group/appinventor+app+inventor+community&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=ubuntu>
>
>
> i think mdec / icon would probably conduct appinventor courses in the
> future, so it will be good to get a good headstart on this.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
> linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Now i have to buy a Android phone ... Or I can use emulator under Ubuntu
>> 10.04 LTS.
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: App Inventor Team 
>> Date: Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 3:50 AM
>> Subject: Getting Started with App Inventor
>> To: linuxmalay...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>   Welcome to App Inventor!
>> *About App Inventor:*
>> App Inventor for Android allows people with minimal programming experience
>> to create simple, personal apps for Android devices. It has a number of
>> features which ease app development. App Inventor is best suited for
>> people who are eager to learn the basics of programming and are interested
>> in making basic apps for their personal use.
>>
>>  *Remember the Beta Tag:*
>> App Inventor is currently available as an invitation-based beta product.
>> We are limiting access in order to ensure that our systems can handle the
>> load. As a beta product App Inventor still has rough edges and missing
>> features. In some cases the rough edges include un-pleasantries such as:
>> installing Windows device drivers, installing Java on your computer, and
>> fiddling with settings on your phone. We are working hard to smooth out the
>> rough edges and we appreciate your use of App Inventor while we are in this
>> beta state. It may sound a bit cliche but it really is true, your use of App
>> Inventor today will help us make it better for the future! Now on to the
>> good stuff.
>>
>> *Getting Started with App Inventor:*
>> *
>> *
>> Complete these 3 steps to start using App Inventor:
>>
>>1. Set up <http://appinventor.googlelabs.com/learn/setup/index.html> your
>>phone and computer.
>>2. Connect<http://appinventor.googlelabs.com/learn/setup/starting.html> 
>> your
>>phone to your computer.
>>3. Complete the basic 
>> tutorials<http://appinventor.googlelabs.com/learn/tutorials/index.html>
>>.
>>
>> Take your App Inventor knowledge to the next level by:
>>
>>- Working through the advanced 
>> tutorials<http://appinventor.googlelabs.com/learn/tutorials/index.html>
>>.
>>- Reading the App Inventor reference 
>> material.<http://appinventor.googlelabs.com/learn/reference/index.html>
>>- Subscribing to the App Inventor user 
>> forum<https://groups.google.com/group/appinventor?pli=1>
>>.
>>
>>  Happy Inventing!
>> Google's App Inventor Team
>>
>>
>> You have received this mandatory email service announcement to update you
>> about important changes to your Google App Inventor account.
>>
>> Google, Inc. | 1600 Amphitheater Parkway | Mountain View, California 94043
>>2010 Google Inc. All Rights Reserved.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Welcome

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSDC.my Master Plan

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

+50 to lutfi

sekarang ini terdapat suruhanjaya koperasi : http://www.skm.gov.my/koperasi

perbezaan : persatuan is non-profit, koperasi ialah for profit.

terdapat beberapa koperasi yg mana profit digunakan untuk menaja pelajaran
bagi ahli / anak ahli. juga terdapat koperasi yg menjalankan bisnis
pendidikan / kolej

sekiranya kita bernaung di bawah angkasa, then kita juga boleh ada skim bagi
kakitangan kerajaan, selain swasta.

kalau tak silap saya koperasi juga boleh berdaftar dgn kementerian kewangan
- bermaksud koperasi boleh participate dalam sebutharga / tender ;-)

persatuan tak boleh.



2010/10/10 

> +10 to lutfi
> Sent via BlackBerry® 9700
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Harisfazillah Jamel 
> Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 09:16:10
> To: 
> Reply-To: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [osdcmy-public] OSDC.my Master Plan
>
> Assalamualaikum,
>
> Lutfi sudah berbincang dengan saya. Saya juga bersetuju untuk usahakan
> koperasi sebegini. Kita lihat pendapat yang lain.
>
> Koperasi adalah kerjasama individu untuk menjalankan aktiviti yang
> akan untungkan koperasi tersebut. Berbanding dengan organisasi,
> koperasi adalah usaha perniagaan bersama.
>
> Betulkan saya.
>
> 2010/10/10 lutfi raffi :
> > Salam...
> > Pertama sekali, saya ingin mengucapkan tahniah di atas MOSC 2010. Setelah
> > membaca mailing list osdc.my, saya tergerak untuk memikirkan cara-cara
> untuk
> > membantu komuniti terutama dari segi kewangan. Jadi saya mencadangkan
> agar
> > kite menubuhkan koperasi OSDC.my (atau nama yang lain) supaya
> > komuniti-komuniti OSS di Malaysia dapat bergiat dengan lebih aktif lagi
> > dengan kewujudan koperasi ini. Selain itu, Cik Najah sangat arif di dalam
> > bidang ini.
> > Jika tak silap saya, untuk menubuhkan koperasi perlukan minimum 50 orang.
> > sekiranya setiap ahli menyumbang RM 20, jadi modal permulaan untuk
> koperasi
> > adalah RM1000.00. Untuk permulaan saya rasa kita boleh mengadakan
> > bengkel-bengkel OSS seperti yang telah dilakukan saudara Hidzwan (e1)
> yang
> > sering mendapat sambutan. Untung bersih (setelah tolak kos upah dan
> > sebagainya) kita boleh masukkan ke dalam akaun koperasi.
> > Selain bengkel, kita juga boleh buat jualan-jualan seperti yang dilakukan
> > oleh rakan Jom Linux (Digide Technology Enterprise) yang menjual CD
> Ubuntu
> > dan aksesori-aksesori yang berkaitan dengan OSS. Ini juga dapat
> memudahkan
> > dan menggalakkan pengguna linux untuk mempromosikan OSS lagi.
> > Oleh itu, saya perlukan pendapat kalian untuk meneruskan projek ini.
> > On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> Wassalam
> >>
> >> Raja we sort out the registration issues and administration next week.
> >>
> >> Office and administration I have ask Yun to do it for us... I believe
> >> she has talk to TPM regard to office facility but need to disscuss
> >> further.
> >>
> >> We will keep on posting progress here so anyone that can help us, will
> >> know where to get into the loop.
> >>
> >> Cikgu Ayob,
> >>
> >> Terima kasih atas sokongan. Apa yang saya kongsikan adalah
> >> "Brainstoming" daripada pelbagai individu dan tunjuk ajar organisasi.
> >> Organisasi ini telah banyak kali membantu dalam memberikan nasihat dan
> >> tunjuk ajar. Sekarang adalah masa untuk kita berjalan sendiri dan
> >> berlari.
> >>
> >> Wassalam.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah
> >>  wrote:
> >> > salam boss
> >> >
> >> > thanks for posting this up again.
> >> >
> >> > i believe we can also add mimos into this picture : since they are now
> >> > working on the zend php certification
> >> >
> >> > next week will try to sort out the osdc.my registration. then we can
> sit
> >> > down to a calendar for 2011.
> >> >
> >> > i am interested in the workshops but at the moment, still no office
> >> > facility
> >> > to do this.
> >> >
> >> > i can try talking to kperak, if they are kind enough to host workshops
> >> > for
> >> > the community in ipoh (naik train 2 jam aje ;-)
> >> >
> >> > wakil mimos or mdec boleh tolong ke untuk host ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
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> >>
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Re: [osdcmy-public] OSDC.my Master Plan

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

saya boleh 'paksa rela' lagi 10 orang  muahahaha 

ada 14 negeri, dapat 4 wakil dari setiap negeri dah boleh dapat 56 org !

kalau boleh kita set 1 date yg mana najah boleh brief kita berkaitan dengan
koperasi : open source developers cooperative

software untuk coop dah ada : http://www.coopworks.org/ - ini pun boleh jadi
product

but as far as i know there has not been any cooperative solely for oss
development in the world, maybe because not many people understand what is a
cooperative

imho, the cooperative model is the most suitable for the oss community -
because members are free to come and go, and yet we can still do business.
compared to sdn bhd shareholding is limited, society is non-profit cannot do
govt tenders, foundation is even worse !

happy ubuntu 10.10 day !




On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 11:57 AM, lutfi raffi  wrote:

> jadi, sudah ada 7 orang (termasuk tuan haris) yang setuju dengan penubuhan
> ni... perlukan 43 orang lagi..
>
> 2010/10/10 Mohd Sufian Ahmad 
>
> agreed untuk buat koperasi ni..;D..
>>
>> 2010/10/10 Harisfazillah Jamel 
>>
>> Cadang dibuat borang dapatkan maklumat untuk berminat, supaya mudah
>>> untuk Lutfi berhubung. Bila perkara macam ni banyak dokumen tidak atas
>>> talian (offline) perlu dibuat.
>>>
>>> 2010/10/10 lutfi raffi :
>>> > Jadi, dengan penubuhan koperasi ni secara tak langsung akan
>>> meningkatkan
>>> > ekonomi ahli-ahli koperasi. Barulah masyarakat boleh membuka mata
>>> bahawa OSS
>>> > ni boleh menambah pendapatan. Buktinya sudah ada di depan mata
>>> (sekiranya
>>> > projek ini berjalan dengan lancar).
>>> > "terdapat beberapa koperasi yg mana profit digunakan untuk menaja
>>> pelajaran
>>> > bagi ahli / anak ahli. juga terdapat koperasi yg menjalankan bisnis
>>> > pendidikan / kolej " <-- +100 untuk tuan Raja
>>>
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Re: [osdcmy-public] OSDC.my Master Plan

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

nice reading about cooperative

http://www.coopworks.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=16&Itemid=38

i like the part of economic, social, ethical responsibility

this site is from kenya



2010/10/10 Raja Iskandar Shah 

> saya boleh 'paksa rela' lagi 10 orang  muahahaha 
>
> ada 14 negeri, dapat 4 wakil dari setiap negeri dah boleh dapat 56 org !
>
> kalau boleh kita set 1 date yg mana najah boleh brief kita berkaitan dengan
> koperasi : open source developers cooperative
>
> software untuk coop dah ada : http://www.coopworks.org/ - ini pun boleh
> jadi product
>
> but as far as i know there has not been any cooperative solely for oss
> development in the world, maybe because not many people understand what is a
> cooperative
>
> imho, the cooperative model is the most suitable for the oss community -
> because members are free to come and go, and yet we can still do business.
> compared to sdn bhd shareholding is limited, society is non-profit cannot do
> govt tenders, foundation is even worse !
>
> happy ubuntu 10.10 day !
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 11:57 AM, lutfi raffi wrote:
>
>> jadi, sudah ada 7 orang (termasuk tuan haris) yang setuju dengan penubuhan
>> ni... perlukan 43 orang lagi..
>>
>> 2010/10/10 Mohd Sufian Ahmad 
>>
>> agreed untuk buat koperasi ni..;D..
>>>
>>> 2010/10/10 Harisfazillah Jamel 
>>>
>>> Cadang dibuat borang dapatkan maklumat untuk berminat, supaya mudah
>>>> untuk Lutfi berhubung. Bila perkara macam ni banyak dokumen tidak atas
>>>> talian (offline) perlu dibuat.
>>>>
>>>> 2010/10/10 lutfi raffi :
>>>> > Jadi, dengan penubuhan koperasi ni secara tak langsung akan
>>>> meningkatkan
>>>> > ekonomi ahli-ahli koperasi. Barulah masyarakat boleh membuka mata
>>>> bahawa OSS
>>>> > ni boleh menambah pendapatan. Buktinya sudah ada di depan mata
>>>> (sekiranya
>>>> > projek ini berjalan dengan lancar).
>>>> > "terdapat beberapa koperasi yg mana profit digunakan untuk menaja
>>>> pelajaran
>>>> > bagi ahli / anak ahli. juga terdapat koperasi yg menjalankan bisnis
>>>> > pendidikan / kolej " <-- +100 untuk tuan Raja
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Re: [osdcmy-public] OSDC.my Master Plan

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

The challenge as the pioneer will be very great (like in the old wild west
frontier).

I do believe, though, that we have the strength and sincerity to do it. But
will require a lot of patience and perseverance.



On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 4:06 PM, lutfi raffi  wrote:

> Sekiranya tiada lagi koperasi OSS di dunia ini berdasarkan apa yg
> diberitahu oleh Tuan Raja, bermakna "koperasi OSS Malaysia" will be the
> pioneer.. sekiranya berjaya boleh membuka mata dunia kepada komuniti
> Malaysia.
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Aizuddin a.k.a ak47suk1 <
> kaibatheleg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Cadangan yang bernas. Count me in as well.
>>
>> 2010/10/10 Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini 
>>
>> wah..mastah lutfi sudah mula memberi idea bernas!
>>>
>>> count me in..RM20 bila-bila boleh recover balik :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 3:15 PM, darXness darXness 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 fuh...sokong 100%..rasenyer rm 20 tu xjadik isu.n maybe kalo nak cepat
 dapat ahli,kite leh wat kat event2 yg usual,cam install fest or launching
 party.yg datang launch party da bae org.pstu letak kat facebook lgi.:)

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Re: [osdcmy-public] OSDC.my Master Plan

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

ok, saya dah isi borang.

anda bila lagi ?

berkaitan nama, moss tak sesuai sebab ada perkataan 'society'

koperasi usahasama sumber terbuka awam -- kusta pun tak sesuai ;p

nak kena tanya najah, samada nama inggeris boleh guna ke ?




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> itu bukan kira bilangan orang la..
> itu merujuk 1 pengguna saja :p
>
> 2010/10/10 Mohd Sallehuddin Mad Yusuf 
>
> ramainya... Anonymous user 1620
>>
>> 2010/10/10 Mohd Rizal 
>>
>> Setuju..Saya menyokong sepenuhnya
>>>
>>> Mohd Rizal Haji Atan
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>>> Wah...ini menarik...:)
>>> marilah sama-sama menyokong...semoga perancangan berjalan lancar...
>>>
>>> 2010/10/10 zayn 
>>>
  rasanya elok disenaraikan...


 On 10/10/2010 09:01 PM, lutfi raffi wrote:

 Ok.. sudah 34 orang bersetuju...

 2010/10/10 Hafidz Nasruddin 

> +1 untuk koperasi
>
> 2010/10/10 lutfi raffi 
>
> Mustakim... mmg dari awal lagi daku nak beritahu ko... dari semalam
>> lagi kita sudah bermula kan?... ok... sudah ada 33 orang
>>
>>
>>
>> 2010/10/10 Mustakim Ahmad 
>>
>> Salam. Saya dah mendengar taklimat daripada ANGKASA pada bulan mei
>>> lalu. Daftar koperasi dengan ANGKASA, akan dapat inisiatif RM3000 terus.
>>> Tapi, make sure, koperasi tu berdaftar. Dan orang yang menguruskan dan 
>>> ahli
>>> lembaga koperasi berhak mendapat elaun bagi tugas-tugas yang dijalankan.
>>> Pergi dengar taklimat koeprasi ANGKASA peringkat kebangsaan hari itu pun
>>> dapat elaun RM300 makan minum percuma, berak cangkung.
>>>
>>> Harap rancangan ini berjaya. Lutfi, kira saya sekali dalam ahli tu.
>>>
>>> Mustakim Ahmad
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Re: [osdcmy-public] OSDC.my Master Plan

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quick replies:

   1. when a person becomes a member, there is a minimum subscription that
   he has to make (in this case lutfi has suggested rm20)
   2. a member can increase the amount of subscription (for example i can
   subscribe to rm500) but not exceeding 20% of the total share
   3. besides share subscription (capital fund), the cooperative can also
   impose fees (income fund)
   4. a cooperative must have a minimum of 6 directors (sape kata kena ada
   10 org ?) and not more than 15 directors
   5. there is no minimum on the amount of directors allowance, and the
   allowance must be for 'khidmat tetap' and approved by agm (so as a start, we
   can choose to pay 2 'executive' directors rm100 / month for secretarial
   services, the rest, since they are non-executive directors do not need to be
   paid, as they do not render 'khidmat tetap')

reference : http://www.skm.gov.my/akta1993




2010/10/12 lutfi raffi 

> Maksud saya ialah sekiranya elaun ALP tersebut adalah berdasarkan
> keuntungan pada setiap bulan? Bilangan ALP mmg tetap 10 orang ke?
>
> Jika kita membuat perlembagaan koperasi tersebut. adakah kita boleh
> menggubalnya dari masa ke semasa?
>
>
>
> 2010/10/12 lutfi raffi 
>
> Bolehkan kita membuat perlembagaan berkenaan dengan elaun dan bilangan
>> ALP?
>>
>> 2010/10/12 Najah 
>>
>> great idea lutfi..
>>>
>>> tapi sekiranya RM20 setahun, kita perlu dapatkan ramai ahli koperasi.
>>> ini kerana antara cost yang pihak koperasi akan keluarkan nnt adalah
>>> elaun bulanan ahli lembaga pengarah (ALP).
>>> Biasanya koperasi ade 10 ahli lembaga pengarah, 10 orang x RM300 =3000
>>> sebulan untuk bayar elaun ALP sahaja.
>>> Itu pun 300 merupakan jumlah elaun yang sangat minima. (elaun paling
>>> sedikit yang saya pernah dengar setakat ini adalah RM1k utk setiap ahli
>>> lembaga sebulan)
>>>
>>> Ini tidak termasuk cost2 lain seperti administration, sewa
>>> office/training centre, bil api-air-internet (jika sewa office), claim
>>> transportation&mileage dan lain2 cost yang kita tak nampak sekarang.
>>>
>>> Berikut merupakan kiraan kasar saya:-
>>>
>>> RM1,000 (elaun) x 10 org ALP x 12 bulan =120,000
>>> 120,000 / RM20 = 6000 org ahli koperasi..
>>> :. jadi kita perlu ada sekurang2nya 6000 orang ahli koperasi, hanya utk
>>> cover elaun ALP sahaja.. :)
>>>
>>> Estimation :
>>> 1. RM1,000 elaun ALP sebulan
>>> 2. 10 org ALP (biasanya 10 ALP)
>>> 3. Koperasi tidak dapat generate any income dalam tempoh 12 bulan
>>> (dormant)
>>>
>>> Untuk dapatkan dana under skim koperasi pun bukannya mudah sbb koperasi
>>> saya sudah 2 tahun apply nak dapatkan 40k tersebut tapi sampai sekarang tak
>>> dapat lagi. banyak aktiviti yang tidak dapat dijalan kan kerana kekurangan
>>> modal dan buat masa ini status koperasi adalah dormant. :)
>>>
>>> Walaubagaimanapun, sekiranya kita bersepakat untuk tubuhkan koperasi Open
>>> Source ini, saya akan cuba membantu dalam perangkaan 'undang-udang kecil'
>>> dan pendaftaran koperasi. Juga kita perlu perancangan terperinci bagaimana
>>> untuk koperasi ini generate kewangan dan ape plan jangka pendek dan panjang
>>> kita.
>>>
>>> We need more member and more strategic plan and more implementation to
>>> make this happen... :D
>>>
>>> Sekian.
>>> Yun
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2010/10/11 Muhammad Syafiq 
>>>
>>> I'm in! Great idea bro lutfi!
>>>>
>>>> Penubuhan koperasi adalah 1 idea yg bernas. tapi koperasi ni under
>>>> OSDC.my atau mcm mana? Kalau boleh register sekali OSDC.my sbg persatuan
>>>> yang sah.  Kedua-dua nya akan lebih bagus kelak.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> محمد شافق بن مذلي
>>>> Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli
>>>> http://syafiq.me
>>>> 67C2 1C07 FDEC 09ED DE58
>>>> 1ED8 FF26 6105 142D CBE2
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2010/10/10 Mohd Fazli Azran 
>>>>
>>>> +all . I`m in.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/10/10 lutfi raffi 
>>>>>
>>>>>> MOSS itu hanya cadangan... nama koperasi nanti adalah persetujuan
>>>>>> semua kerana ini adalah usaha bersama
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2010/10/10 Raja Iskandar Shah 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ok, saya dah isi borang.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> anda bila

Re: [osdcmy-public] OSDC.my Master Plan

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

yes, i would certainly agree and hope that everyone will learn from the
mistakes


2010/10/12 Najah 

> Lutfi,
> Mungkin boleh, kena refer syarat2 nya dengan SKM. :-)
>
>
> Raja,
> I said 'in normal cases'. setakat ni yang saya tau. :-)
>
> dan berapa orang yang sanggup dibayar minima kemudian kerja keras in order
> koperasi boleh generate maximum profit?
> jangan cakap dalam mailing list saje berdegar2.. but no implementation and
> action.
> bila sampai masa nak buat kerja, semua sibuk dengan kerja masing2, tarik
> diri dan sebagainya..
> Bila planning koperasi akan terlaksana kalau semuanya sibuk? We need a few
> full-time staff untuk manage koperasi.
> Ade siapa2 yang sanggup dibayar minima untuk buat kerja2 koperasi? sila
> offer diri anda sekarang. :-)
>
> *that's why we need more then RM20 per person a year. Walaupun RM20 is a
> minimum, berapa ramai ahli yang akan keluarkan lebih dari minimum?. "not
> exceeding 20% of total share" - jika most of our member bayar RM20, and ade
> a few kawan2 OSS kita yang kaya nak fund RM10,000 pun tak boleh sbb jika
> ahli tak ramai, off course 10k tu dah exceed 20% of shares.
>
> MOSC2010 dulu pun bape ramai yang offer help?
> but at the end of the day cuma tinggal 5 org core team saja yang keje siang
> malam just to make MOSC2010 happens.
>
> We need to learn from mistakes.
>
> Regards,
> Yun
>
>
>
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