salam azmi your comments work both ways
as a boss who reviews documentation from staff, the learning curve of PROPER use of an office suite is steep for newbies (example proper use of heading, paragraph and page styles). i still see lots of rubbish [Tab] instead of proper paragraph indents, using typed number, then [tab] then heading title, instead of the simple paragraph heading style the m$ 2010 requires additional familiarisation as it has made use of the ribbon icon a hide-and-seek game. to fit their horrendous large icons, m$ have resorted to hiding them behind other obscure icons. try doing a 300 page admin manual on a 8.9" inch screen netbook with those large icons taking up 25% of the screen ! if everyone used oo.o open formats, there will not be any problems of formatting. if the users can afford to pay for the m$ office licenses (they are paying for it right ?), then by all means make the most of it. other than the 2 concluding points you made, i would also like to add: stronger enforcement against software piracy raising society's ethics against 'stealing' personally, i cant afford to have 4 copies of m$ office for each of the 4 computers at my home, therefore myself, my wife, my 10 year old daughter and my 5 year old son make do with oo.o . even my 74 year old mother makes do with oo.o . my children use ubuntu exclusively on the pc clone. open source is not just about linux and openoffice.org and the desktop. just think, if there were no linux / php / python - would there be google or f...@#b%k ? if you are a f...@#b%k user, you are already a part user of open source. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 4:44 PM, azmi salim <[email protected]> wrote: > OpenOffice.org Challenges: > > 1) Learning Curve (kinda steep for newbies) > 2) Non-intuitive interface (compared to the latest m$ edition), hard to > navigate for newbies > 3) Compatibility (we have to take it at point blank that most of the file > is in m$ format). thus making people goes berserk when all those format > lari..especially when doing presentation > > --> unlesss there is some highly significant advantage towards using OOo, > apart from the normal 'FREE' and 'Open' words, which the end-user rarely > cares about, people will at the end rollback to m$. if they cannot use, they > will lari. > > --> I'm speaking based on small experience of some project, and inviting > (expecting) some flames. > > --> if we are introducing Open Source stuffs to g33x, that's fine, but we > are living in the real world, where normal people don't really understand > the difference between command prompt and terminal > > > > Thus, humbly i do think, > --> there's a need to revamp the navigational interface > --> there's a need for proper training ecosystem > > > Regards, > AZMI > > On 15 August 2010 15:52, archayl <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 05:52 +0800, Harisfazillah Jamel wrote: >> > Assalamualaikum and salam sejahtera, >> > >> > I have reading numbers of email regarding the Open Source Software >> > (OSS) and our government in this list and we know how hard to get OSS >> > into the government selection and option. >> > >> > I keep on asking myself, why? Why our policy makers hard to to get OSS >> > as the main and important option in selection of software and the >> > answer is only one ...( err may be two points) >> > >> > We have money to buy proprietary and we don't care how much we going >> > to spend because its not our money. >> > >> > Wow its hit me. After having sahur with nasi and sambal ikan sardin >> > ... Its not about Government money its about our money. The Rakyat. >> > >> > If Rakyat (people) know how much that we have spend to buy other >> > software rather then OSS and much its can be save and what OSS can do >> > to build our nation... I believe its will change the policy and >> > perspective ... >> > >> > We should focusing in convincing The Rakyat the benefit of OSS and >> > making sure that The Rakyat will pressure our government OSS should be >> > the main and important option in selection of software. >> > >> > How ? We should discuss this >> > When ? Now ... We should get The Rakyat know right away >> > What ? Its all about people power of selection of choices >> > Who ? We are. We are The Rakyat. >> > Where ? Every state and every where. >> > >> > Set our target right, and we should get this done properly.... >> > >> > Thank you .... >> > >> > -- >> > Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ >> > >> > Facebook Fan page >> > >> > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 >> > >> > http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my >> > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > >> > Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > [email protected]<osdcmy-list%[email protected]> >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en >> >> >> How about habit? One thing people always have a hard time to cope. >> Change, adapt. (Two?) >> >> I've seen 3 Office Suite in one computer. Microsoft, Star, and Open. Go >> guess which one get frequent click-thru. When I see those situation, I >> wonder where the ~90% OSS adoption in Malaysia Government.. >> >> Just my 2 rants.. >> >> -- >> Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ >> >> Facebook Fan page >> >> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 >> >> http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<osdcmy-list%[email protected]> >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en >> > > > > -- > *** Together Protecting The Future Environment ** > Please consider reading this email on-screen rather than printing. > Should situation unavoidable, use recycled-paper. 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