Re: [osg-users] [build] OSGbin 2.9.9 v. 2.9.11
Hi Robert I did a search in this forum and also a Google search for osg71- There were several and the earliest I looked at was Feb 2011, this month. In the thread I started on this I asked: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?t=7837 Is this my error or has the format changed? I hit the SVN for OSG and osgEarth and the examples seem to run OK. Apparently the format has changed and instead of ~45 dlls what is necessary is included in the osg71-... dlls. Is this correct? Neil -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=37027#37027 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] [build] OSGbin 2.9.9 v. 2.9.11
Hi Neil, I can't help you with Windows specifics as I haven't touched a Windows box for programming in the last decade... My general comments about libs and osgPlugins-version are valid across all platforms though. Your own builds of the OSG may well be different from other users builds if your dependencies are different. Robert. On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Neil Neilson n...@nlneilson.com wrote: Hi Robert I did a search in this forum and also a Google search for osg71- There were several and the earliest I looked at was Feb 2011, this month. In the thread I started on this I asked: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?t=7837 Is this my error or has the format changed? I hit the SVN for OSG and osgEarth and the examples seem to run OK. Apparently the format has changed and instead of ~45 dlls what is necessary is included in the osg71-... dlls. Is this correct? Neil -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=37027#37027 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] [build] OSGbin 2.9.9 v. 2.9.11
Neil, I did a search in this forum and also a Google search for osg71- The SO version has been there for a very long time. If it is not there for the old version you downloaded, then it's either a very old version or the versioning was disabled by the person who did the build. However it is there for a reason (to avoid an OSG app picking up the wrong version of a DLL that you may have on your PATH). I don't know why you're focusing on this so much, it works so what's the problem? Plus, no one can know exactly what you're talking about when you say ~45 DLLs, you would need to give us a list, or look at exactly what DLLs are there. If some downloaded version of OSG had all the plugins in the main bin folder instead of the osgPlugins folder that may well account for a lot more DLLs. Plus 3rdparty dependencies' DLLs might be there too. No one can know unless you list the DLLs, or just look at the names yourself you should be able to figure it out. Hope this helps, J-S -- __ Jean-Sebastien Guayjean-sebastien.g...@cm-labs.com http://www.cm-labs.com/ http://whitestar02.webhop.org/ ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] [build] OSGbin 2.9.9 v. 2.9.11
Thanks Robert The include, lib and plugins seem to be ~same. As long as things work OK I won't be concerned. I should get into Ubuntu more and try it there. For other apps the mingw builds are the largest then MSC10 which is considerably smaller and then MSC9. Neil -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=37035#37035 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] [build] OSGbin 2.9.9 v. 2.9.11
Hi Jean I had previously tried to figure out the difference. All the plugin .dlls start with osgdb_ My mingw build has libosg.dll instead of the my earlier build with VS10 osgdb_osg.dll and similar for many of the other .dlls It is just the recent builds that have the osg71-xxx.dll and no xxx.dll except jpeg62.dll which I pasted in. http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?t=7840 I don't know why there are 3 threads when there should be just 1. The reason I was concerned is I have spent a considerable amount of time trying different things and trying to figure out what went wrong. The difference in the bin contents was obvious but was not the cause of the problems when they were found. So I asked if the format was changed or if it was an error on my end. I still have much to learn, thanks for the patience. Neil -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=37045#37045 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] [build] OSGbin 2.9.9 v. 2.9.11
Hi Niel, I have just experienced the same thing (I believe) as I was trying to play with osgOcean and could not get the libraries to play nicely so I downloaded the source to build the libraries myself. After building... I tried osgOcean again and found that it couldn't even find the libraries I had supposedly built. I searched for and found my dll's but to my amazement they had these funny prefixes in front of them. I changed (stupidly) my ocean project to point to these instead... Long story short... after reading a bunch more... I found these osg71- things were just an intermediate on their way to their final resting place (as almost described in Robert's note). One MUST run the INSTALL build after building to ensure the intermediates are moved and renamed to their proper destinations. Have fun... I'm still dealing with more third party fun :-* ! Cheers, tim -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=37046#37046 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] [build] OSGbin 2.9.9 v. 2.9.11
Hi Tim At least I am not the only one to run into this. From the SVN today and CMake Configure/Generate and VS10 ALL BUILD the recent changes were built and no errors. I renamed C:\OpenSceneGraph to C:\OpenSceneGraph-xx Build INSTALL: Build: 1 succeeded, 0 failed, 0 up-to-date, 0 skipped This made a new C:\OpenSceneGraph the bin still has the osg71- and without the xxx.dlls Neil -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=37049#37049 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] [build] OSGbin 2.9.9 v. 2.9.11
Hi Neil, I can't see what is your problem ? OSG contains the core libraries and nodekits ( Openthreads, osg, osgDB, osgGA, osgFX, osgViewer, etc...) wich will give the versioned dlls in bin folder (osg71-osg.dll -- osg library ; osg71-osgGA.dll -- osgGA library ; etc ...) and plugins for loading/writing files. These plugins are in a osgPlugins-2.9.11 folder, and are like this osgdb_xx.dll. osgdb_osg.dll is the plugin for loading osg files and is different from the osg71-osg.dll. which is the osg library. Mourad On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Neil Neilson n...@nlneilson.com wrote: Hi Tim At least I am not the only one to run into this. From the SVN today and CMake Configure/Generate and VS10 ALL BUILD the recent changes were built and no errors. I renamed C:\OpenSceneGraph to C:\OpenSceneGraph-xx Build INSTALL: Build: 1 succeeded, 0 failed, 0 up-to-date, 0 skipped This made a new C:\OpenSceneGraph the bin still has the osg71- and without the xxx.dlls Neil -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=37049#37049 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] [build] OSGbin 2.9.9 v. 2.9.11
Hi bouffa It's a bit confusing having 3 threads when there should be one. I edited the post you answered and added this edit: Looking in C:\OSG-dev\OSG\build\bin they have the osg71- C:\OSG-dev\OSG\build\Release is empty. Looking at my mingw build: C:\mingwOsg\OpenSceneGraph-mingw\bin This does have the xxx.dlls without the osg71- Apparently I have something wrong in CMake or in VS10. I am getting the osg71- rather than the xxx.dlls Or is it possible something in the SVN is not compatible with VS10. Tim did not mention what he used to build/compile with. Neil -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=37054#37054 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] [build] OSGbin 2.9.9 v. 2.9.11
Hello Neil, Apparently I have something wrong in CMake or in VS10. I am getting the osg71- rather than the xxx.dlls Please stop focusing on this. IT IS NOT A PROBLEM. The VS builds will always have an osgXX- prefix to the DLL names, that's how it should be, the prefix is a version number that makes sure the right DLL is picked up at runtime. MinGW builds will not have this as they use GCC as their compiler, and GCC embeds the SO version inside the library. So it doesn't need to have any version number in the filename. So once again, I repeat, everything is CORRECT and you can go on with your life... Just have your project link to osg(d).lib, osgDB(d).lib etc. and it will pick up the right osg71-osg.dll, osg71-osgDB.dll etc. at runtime. J-S -- __ Jean-Sebastien Guayjean-sebastien.g...@cm-labs.com http://www.cm-labs.com/ http://whitestar02.webhop.org/ ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] [build] OSGbin 2.9.9 v. 2.9.11
Hi Jean and it will pick up the right osg71-osg.dll, osg71-osgDB.dll etc. at runtime. Trying the examples in ..\share\OpenSceneGraph\bin None of them work now but did with the pre-built 2.9.9 that does not have the osg71-. osg.dll was not found OpenThreads.dll was not found The ..\data examples work with osgviewer.exe, that does not have the osg71-. That is what I tried before and they still do with the VS10 build. For some reason it is not picking up osg.dll from the osg71-osg.dll. Tim had the same problem. http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?t=7840 I found these osg71- things were just an intermediate on their way to their final resting place (as almost described in Robert's note). One MUST run the INSTALL build after building to ensure the intermediates are moved and renamed to their proper destinations. When I do the Build INSTALL the osg71- is still there and as mentioned the osg.dll is not picked out. I do have a problem with the examples I had not tried before except with the pre-built that does not have the osg71-. Neil -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=37056#37056 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] [build] OSGbin 2.9.9 v. 2.9.11
On 02/23/2011 07:29 PM, Neil Neilson wrote: Trying the examples in ..\share\OpenSceneGraph\bin None of them work now but did with the pre-built 2.9.9 that does not have the osg71-. osg.dll was not found OpenThreads.dll was not found The fact that the examples don't work, but osgviewer.exe does makes it sound like you're mixing pre-built examples with the OSG libraries you built. By default, the examples are not built when you create a new project from CMake. I'm not sure where you got these pre-built binaries from, but the so version (the osg71- thing) has been used in OSG for a long time now, and as many others have said, it's not something you should be trying to get rid of. I found these osg71- things were just an intermediate on their way to their final resting place (as almost described in Robert's note). One MUST run the INSTALL build after building to ensure the intermediates are moved and renamed to their proper destinations. The osg71- things are NOT intermediate files. The final .dll's in bin/ should have the so version prepended. The plugins (the ones that start with osgdb_) will not have the so version prepended, but they should be in a subdirectory osgPlugins-2.9.11. I personally would advise you to completely eliminate the pre-built OSG that you were using and start from scratch with a fresh OSG source tree. --J ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] [build] OSGbin 2.9.9 v. 2.9.11
Hi Neil, For some reason it is not picking up osg.dll from the osg71-osg.dll. No. There is no osg.dll. There is only osg71-osg.dll. The example, when recompiled against the proper osg.lib, will load osg71-osg.dll at runtime. Did you recompile the examples after rebuilding OSG itself? Are you sure you're linking the examples to the osg.lib that you just built (the one for your new version of OSG)? Check your linker paths. Tim had the same problem. http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?t=7840 I found these osg71- things were just an intermediate on their way to their final resting place (as almost described in Robert's note). One MUST run the INSTALL build after building to ensure the intermediates are moved and renamed to their proper destinations. I think both of you are just trying to do too many things at once, not thinking each step through. When I do the Build INSTALL the osg71- is still there and as mentioned the osg.dll is not picked out. The osg71- should stay there. Again, please stop focusing on the prefix. That is not the cause of the problem. The fact that it's there is normal. It should not go away. If your executables have problems starting, saying that they're missing a DLL, it can be one of 2 things: 1. You didn't relink the executables to the osg.lib that goes with the osg71-osg.dll. So it's still linked to the old version of OSG, and so still looking for the old DLLs. 2. You didn't set up your search paths to find your new DLLs. Did you add you OpenSceneGraph\bin directory to your PATH? At runtime, an executable looks for the DLLs it needs either in the current directory (the same directory where the executable is), or the Windows system/system32 directories (but I don't recommend you copy any of your own DLLs there), or on your system's PATH. Everyone else (including those of us using VS10) have OSG DLLs prefixed with osgXX- and it works fine for everyone, so this is not the problem. The problem is how your executable is linked, or where it searches for DLLs at runtime. To recap: When you start an executable, what does it say? If it says it can't find osg.dll, then it's linked to your old version of OSG. Check your linker paths, and recompile and relink your executable. If this happens with the examples that you just compiled for your new version of OSG, then that probably means that you have some library paths set up in Visual Studio that are causing your old version of OSG's libs to be found before the new version's libs. The name of the DLL is encoded inside the lib, and since the new version of OSG is building osg.lib and osg71-osg.dll, that means that if your executable links to THAT osg.lib, it will be looking for osg71-osg.dll. If it's not then that's your problem, linking to the wrong lib. If it says it can't find osg71-osg.dll, then that means that at runtime, the program can't find the DLL. Add your OpenSceneGraph\bin to your system PATH, and it will find it. Other than the above general advice based on what could possibly be going wrong, I don't have access to your setup, so I can't help that much more. There are so many things that could be wrong that you'll have to try and find out what's going on. Take it one step at a time, but please remember that the osg71- prefix is not the problem. The OSG build system names the DLLs that way, and the lib file contains the correct name to be able to find the DLL, so it all works. The problem lies elsewhere. Hope this helps, J-S -- __ Jean-Sebastien Guayjean-sebastien.g...@cm-labs.com http://www.cm-labs.com/ http://whitestar02.webhop.org/ ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] [build] OSGbin 2.9.9 v. 2.9.11
Hi Jean That did help and answered what the problem was. [quote]Did you recompile the examples after rebuilding OSG itself?[/code] No I did not. Now I know what the problem is I can deal with it. From my first post: Is this my error or has the format changed? The format has changed to include osg71-. The error was not re-compiling the examples. Thanks Jean! Neil -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=37062#37062 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] [build] OSGbin 2.9.9 v. 2.9.11
Hi Neil, That did help and answered what the problem was. [quote]Did you recompile the examples after rebuilding OSG itself?[/code] No I did not. Now I know what the problem is I can deal with it. Great, good to know we finally found it. From my first post: Is this my error or has the format changed? The format has changed to include osg71-. Again, no the format did not change between 2.9.9 and the current SVN trunk. The osgXX- prefix has been there since at least 2.6. However this applies only to VC++ builds. When compiling for other compilers like GCC (which MinGW uses) it is not needed, so if your previous prebuilt packages were built with MinGW that's why you didn't have the prefixes. You did not initially give us enough information to help you. You just said did the format change?. Well, if both your builds had been made with the same compiler, what we said would have been correct, the format did not change. However, you didn't state that your prebuilts were built with MinGW, and now you were building with VC++. So from your point of view, the format had changed. J-S -- __ Jean-Sebastien Guayjean-sebastien.g...@cm-labs.com http://www.cm-labs.com/ http://whitestar02.webhop.org/ ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] [build] OSGbin 2.9.9 v. 2.9.11
Thanks again Jean. I had no idea what was used to compile the pre-built. Neil -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=37064#37064 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] [build] OSGbin 2.9.9 v. 2.9.11
Hi Robert, Here is what is in my C:\OpenSceneGraph\bin I did add the jpeg62.dll The include, lib and plugins look OK. jpeg62.dll osg71-osg.dll osg71-osgAnimation.dll osg71-osgDB.dll osg71-osgFX.dll osg71-osgGA.dll osg71-osgManipulator.dll osg71-osgParticle.dll osg71-osgPresentation.dll osg71-osgShadow.dll osg71-osgSim.dll osg71-osgTerrain.dll osg71-osgText.dll osg71-osgUtil.dll osg71-osgViewer.dll osg71-osgVolume.dll osg71-osgWidget.dll osgarchive.exe osgconv.exe osgfilecache.exe osgPlugins-2.9.11 osgversion.exe osgviewer.exe ot12-OpenThreads.dll present3D.exe I may not have had the CMake correct. This was built with VS10. Neil -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=36941#36941 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
