Re: [OT] Internet Explorer caching

[mike smith]

Ok, I know about F12 and its fantastic user-agent settings, but ... they
don't persist.  What I'd like is to affix a user agent setting for a given
url or suburl.  (this is to make a dreadful intraweb app that insists on
IE8 or older UA setting - it works happily with 11, it just won't start if
thats in the UA )  :(


On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> You can trick the browser by appending a version to the download url (of
>> the XAP).
>>
>
> Indeed! Starting a few days ago I put the version number inside the full
> XAP file name to help avoid unwanted caching. We've been running
> experiments with 4 people and getting improved but still occasional
> unpredictable caching problems. One guy's IE shows the old app, another has
> Chome stuck but not his IE, and so on. One chap put ?foo=bar on the URL and
> it woke up the new version. So it's all a bit of a dog's breakfast.
>
> However, I feel that changing the XAP file name on each release can only
> make things better.
>
> The chap with the dodgy IE11 did a full reset and reboot but it had no
> effect.
>
> Greg
>



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Re: [OT] Internet Explorer caching

[Greg Keogh]

>
> You can trick the browser by appending a version to the download url (of
> the XAP).
>

Indeed! Starting a few days ago I put the version number inside the full
XAP file name to help avoid unwanted caching. We've been running
experiments with 4 people and getting improved but still occasional
unpredictable caching problems. One guy's IE shows the old app, another has
Chome stuck but not his IE, and so on. One chap put ?foo=bar on the URL and
it woke up the new version. So it's all a bit of a dog's breakfast.

However, I feel that changing the XAP file name on each release can only
make things better.

The chap with the dodgy IE11 did a full reset and reboot but it had no
effect.

Greg

Fwd: [OT] Internet Explorer caching

[Greg Keogh]

Forget my previous question. IE has a reset button right under your nose. I
don't think I've ever used it or even noticed it before.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737

I'll get my colleague to try that. It makes you wonder why such a command
might be necessary?!

Greg

Re: [OT] Internet Explorer caching

[Stephen Price]

You can trick the browser by appending a version to the download url (of
the XAP). That way when you update the XAP the version number is different
and the browser will cache the new version and not get stuck on the old
one.


On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> My colleague has terrible trouble with the cache in his Windows 7 IE11.
> Every time we change a XAP file or web site he seems to get stuck on the
> previous version and can't shake them out by the usual methods of deleting
> temp files. After a random number of days the new stuff suddenly appears.
> Chrome and Firefox pick up the changes, but not his IE. No one else suffers
> from the problem.
>
> In cases like this you'd normally reinstall the software, but IE is glued
> inside Windows. Is there some way of forcing IE back to factory settings or
> getting some effect that is as dramatic as a reinstall?
>
> *Greg K*
>

[OT] Internet Explorer caching

[Greg Keogh]

My colleague has terrible trouble with the cache in his Windows 7 IE11.
Every time we change a XAP file or web site he seems to get stuck on the
previous version and can't shake them out by the usual methods of deleting
temp files. After a random number of days the new stuff suddenly appears.
Chrome and Firefox pick up the changes, but not his IE. No one else suffers
from the problem.

In cases like this you'd normally reinstall the software, but IE is glued
inside Windows. Is there some way of forcing IE back to factory settings or
getting some effect that is as dramatic as a reinstall?

*Greg K*

Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

[David Connors]

On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Scott Barnes wrote:

> David: I think the words your seeking are "JavaScript Stockholm Syndrome"
> .. I object strongly to a language who's surrounded by frameworks that are
> hell bent on abstracting developers from the said language as much as
> possible because the said language is so far behind the evolution curve.
> Had JS moved to ECMA4 - ECMA6 ..sure.. i'll play along but this JS ciricle
> jerk that's going on because everyone's given the "defeatist" attitude...
> bleh...  And yes, I will concede I see my future with me standing on the
> roadside way "WILL CODE JS FOR CRACK"...
>

Frameworks like AngularJS aren't designed to abstract developers from the
language.

For all its faults and however badly it started out, JS has been hardened
in the market to fit a lot of use cases. In terms of the *outcomes* you can
create with it and a modern browser, it is exceeding the capabilities of
most other ways of getting apps in the hands of users.

It might not be as elegant as C# and WPF, but WPF is obscenely slow,
platform bound ... and dead.

No user of your application gives a shit what the source code looks like,
so long as it exceeds their expectations and provides values. Thems where
the money is.

David.

Re: [OT] Favourite Coding Album

[osjasonroberts]

Thanks Nathan, will check it out.






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From: Nathan Chere
Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎14‎ ‎February‎ ‎2014 ‎6‎:‎48‎ ‎AM
To: ozDotNet






Maybe use something like Grooveshark’s collaborative playlists so it’s not just 
for the Win8 crowd?

 

http://help.grooveshark.com/customer/portal/articles/528163-collaborative-playlists
 



 



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Behalf Of osjasonrobe...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2014 3:17 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Favourite Coding Album

 



Hope to - gonna blog the results which should be fun - anyone know if you can 
create Xbox Music playlists to share (or other ways to create sharable 
playlists??)



 


Jason Roberts
Journeyman Software Developer

Twitter: @robertsjason
Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com
Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts


 



From: mike smith
Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎13‎ ‎February‎ ‎2014 ‎12‎:‎15‎ ‎PM
To: ozDotNet


 



Going to makeup a playlist for us at the end?


 


On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Craig van Nieuwkerk  wrote:



If only the chicks were really for free!



 


 


On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 3:12 PM, mike smith  wrote:



Worked for me


 


(now listening to  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP2RUD_cL0&feature=kp )

Damn, I love that guitar!




 


On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 5:00 PM,  wrote:





Hi all, thought it would be cool to write a fun blog post with programmers fave 
albums


 


I used Excel web app survey to create it which is pretty cool


 


http://bit.ly/programmermusicsurvey


 


Spread the word, will be cool to see the results 😊


 



 


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RE: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

[GregAtGregLowDotCom]

Yeah, I was limiting it to the level of the microprocessor. No interest in 
actually building or coding inside there nowadays.

 

Regards,

 

Greg

 

Dr Greg Low

 

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SQL Down Under | Web:   www.sqldownunder.com

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Craig van Nieuwkerk
Sent: Friday, 14 February 2014 1:11 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer 
blogosphere)

 

Where's my soldering iron...

 

On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Preet Sangha mailto:preetsan...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Greg.

 

All machine languages are just wrappers for microcode 

 

Preet

 

On 14 February 2014 14:00, GregAtGregLowDotCom mailto:g...@greglow.com> > wrote:

Isn’t it all just perspective ? 

 

All other languages are just wrappers around machine code anyway. :)

 

“Resistance is futile”

 

“Any problem in computing can be solved by another layer of abstraction. And 
any performance problem in computing can be solved by removing one layer of 
abstraction.”

 

Regards,

 

Greg

 

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mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913   fax 

SQL Down Under | Web:   www.sqldownunder.com

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com   
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com  ] 
On Behalf Of Scott Barnes
Sent: Friday, 14 February 2014 11:42 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer 
blogosphere)

 

David: I think the words your seeking are "JavaScript Stockholm Syndrome" .. I 
object strongly to a language who's surrounded by frameworks that are hell bent 
on abstracting developers from the said language as much as possible because 
the said language is so far behind the evolution curve. Had JS moved to ECMA4 - 
ECMA6 ..sure.. i'll play along but this JS ciricle jerk that's going on because 
everyone's given the "defeatist" attitude... bleh... 

 

And yes, I will concede I see my future with me standing on the roadside way 
"WILL CODE JS FOR CRACK"... 

 

 

 




---
Regards,
Scott Barnes
http://www.riagenic.com

 

On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 9:23 AM, David Connors mailto:da...@connors.com> > wrote:

On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Scott Barnes mailto:scott.bar...@gmail.com> > wrote:

better, faster?  O.o... did you just say JavaScript is better than WPF? 
.

 

I said 'someone's 10kb of JS is better.

 

JavaScript is just Internet assembly language. It's the frameworks that matter. 

 

I used to hate JS with a passion, but the momentum around it is undeniable and 
the things people accomplish with frameworks on top of it are staggering. 




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Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

[Craig van Nieuwkerk]

Where's my soldering iron...


On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Preet Sangha  wrote:

> Greg.
>
> All machine languages are just wrappers for microcode [?]
>
> Preet
>
>
> On 14 February 2014 14:00, GregAtGregLowDotCom  wrote:
>
>> Isn’t it all just perspective ?
>>
>>
>>
>> All other languages are just wrappers around machine code anyway. J
>>
>>
>>
>> “Resistance is futile”
>>
>>
>>
>> “Any problem in computing can be solved by another layer of abstraction.
>> And any performance problem in computing can be solved by removing one
>> layer of abstraction.”
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr Greg Low
>>
>>
>>
>> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax
>>
>> SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes
>> *Sent:* Friday, 14 February 2014 11:42 AM
>> *To:* ozDotNet
>> *Subject:* Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and
>> developer blogosphere)
>>
>>
>>
>> David: I think the words your seeking are "JavaScript Stockholm Syndrome"
>> .. I object strongly to a language who's surrounded by frameworks that are
>> hell bent on abstracting developers from the said language as much as
>> possible because the said language is so far behind the evolution curve.
>> Had JS moved to ECMA4 - ECMA6 ..sure.. i'll play along but this JS ciricle
>> jerk that's going on because everyone's given the "defeatist" attitude...
>> bleh...
>>
>>
>>
>> And yes, I will concede I see my future with me standing on the roadside
>> way "WILL CODE JS FOR CRACK"...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Regards,
>> Scott Barnes
>> http://www.riagenic.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 9:23 AM, David Connors  wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Scott Barnes 
>> wrote:
>>
>> better, faster?  O.o... did you just say JavaScript is better than
>> WPF? .
>>
>>
>>
>> I said 'someone's 10kb of JS is better.
>>
>>
>>
>> JavaScript is just Internet assembly language. It's the frameworks that
>> matter.
>>
>>
>>
>> I used to hate JS with a passion, but the momentum around it is
>> undeniable and the things people accomplish with frameworks on top of it
>> are staggering.
>>
>>
>> David Connors
>> da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363
>> Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors
>> Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors
>> Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> regards,
> Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland
>
<>

Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

[Preet Sangha]

Greg.

All machine languages are just wrappers for microcode [?]

Preet


On 14 February 2014 14:00, GregAtGregLowDotCom  wrote:

> Isn’t it all just perspective ?
>
>
>
> All other languages are just wrappers around machine code anyway. J
>
>
>
> “Resistance is futile”
>
>
>
> “Any problem in computing can be solved by another layer of abstraction.
> And any performance problem in computing can be solved by removing one
> layer of abstraction.”
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> Dr Greg Low
>
>
>
> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax
>
> SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes
> *Sent:* Friday, 14 February 2014 11:42 AM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer
> blogosphere)
>
>
>
> David: I think the words your seeking are "JavaScript Stockholm Syndrome"
> .. I object strongly to a language who's surrounded by frameworks that are
> hell bent on abstracting developers from the said language as much as
> possible because the said language is so far behind the evolution curve.
> Had JS moved to ECMA4 - ECMA6 ..sure.. i'll play along but this JS ciricle
> jerk that's going on because everyone's given the "defeatist" attitude...
> bleh...
>
>
>
> And yes, I will concede I see my future with me standing on the roadside
> way "WILL CODE JS FOR CRACK"...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
> Regards,
> Scott Barnes
> http://www.riagenic.com
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 9:23 AM, David Connors  wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Scott Barnes 
> wrote:
>
> better, faster?  O.o... did you just say JavaScript is better than
> WPF? .
>
>
>
> I said 'someone's 10kb of JS is better.
>
>
>
> JavaScript is just Internet assembly language. It's the frameworks that
> matter.
>
>
>
> I used to hate JS with a passion, but the momentum around it is undeniable
> and the things people accomplish with frameworks on top of it are
> staggering.
>
>
> David Connors
> da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363
> Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors
> Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors
> Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



-- 
regards,
Preet, Overlooking the Ocean, Auckland
<<338.gif>>

Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

[David Burstin]

http://xkcd.com/378/

Sent from my flux capacitor. Please excuse brevity and any odd autocorrect
errors.
On 14/02/2014 12:28 PM, "Stephen Price"  wrote:

> Great point Greg.
>
> There was a time where I didn't feel like a real programmer because I
> wasn't writing my code in C++ and then one day I realised that the C++
> programmers were not real programmers because they were not writing their
> code in Assembly Language... and the Assembly Language programmers were not
> programmers as they were not using modifying binary directly on the hard
> disk... etc.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 9:00 AM, GregAtGregLowDotCom wrote:
>
>> Isn’t it all just perspective ?
>>
>>
>>
>> All other languages are just wrappers around machine code anyway. J
>>
>>
>>
>> “Resistance is futile”
>>
>>
>>
>> “Any problem in computing can be solved by another layer of abstraction.
>> And any performance problem in computing can be solved by removing one
>> layer of abstraction.”
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr Greg Low
>>
>>
>>
>> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax
>>
>> SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes
>> *Sent:* Friday, 14 February 2014 11:42 AM
>> *To:* ozDotNet
>> *Subject:* Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and
>> developer blogosphere)
>>
>>
>>
>> David: I think the words your seeking are "JavaScript Stockholm Syndrome"
>> .. I object strongly to a language who's surrounded by frameworks that are
>> hell bent on abstracting developers from the said language as much as
>> possible because the said language is so far behind the evolution curve.
>> Had JS moved to ECMA4 - ECMA6 ..sure.. i'll play along but this JS ciricle
>> jerk that's going on because everyone's given the "defeatist" attitude...
>> bleh...
>>
>>
>>
>> And yes, I will concede I see my future with me standing on the roadside
>> way "WILL CODE JS FOR CRACK"...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Regards,
>> Scott Barnes
>> http://www.riagenic.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 9:23 AM, David Connors  wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Scott Barnes 
>> wrote:
>>
>> better, faster?  O.o... did you just say JavaScript is better than
>> WPF? .
>>
>>
>>
>> I said 'someone's 10kb of JS is better.
>>
>>
>>
>> JavaScript is just Internet assembly language. It's the frameworks that
>> matter.
>>
>>
>>
>> I used to hate JS with a passion, but the momentum around it is
>> undeniable and the things people accomplish with frameworks on top of it
>> are staggering.
>>
>>
>> David Connors
>> da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363
>> Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors
>> Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors
>> Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

[Stephen Price]

Great point Greg.

There was a time where I didn't feel like a real programmer because I
wasn't writing my code in C++ and then one day I realised that the C++
programmers were not real programmers because they were not writing their
code in Assembly Language... and the Assembly Language programmers were not
programmers as they were not using modifying binary directly on the hard
disk... etc.


On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 9:00 AM, GregAtGregLowDotCom wrote:

> Isn’t it all just perspective ?
>
>
>
> All other languages are just wrappers around machine code anyway. J
>
>
>
> “Resistance is futile”
>
>
>
> “Any problem in computing can be solved by another layer of abstraction.
> And any performance problem in computing can be solved by removing one
> layer of abstraction.”
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> Dr Greg Low
>
>
>
> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax
>
> SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes
> *Sent:* Friday, 14 February 2014 11:42 AM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer
> blogosphere)
>
>
>
> David: I think the words your seeking are "JavaScript Stockholm Syndrome"
> .. I object strongly to a language who's surrounded by frameworks that are
> hell bent on abstracting developers from the said language as much as
> possible because the said language is so far behind the evolution curve.
> Had JS moved to ECMA4 - ECMA6 ..sure.. i'll play along but this JS ciricle
> jerk that's going on because everyone's given the "defeatist" attitude...
> bleh...
>
>
>
> And yes, I will concede I see my future with me standing on the roadside
> way "WILL CODE JS FOR CRACK"...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
> Regards,
> Scott Barnes
> http://www.riagenic.com
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 9:23 AM, David Connors  wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Scott Barnes 
> wrote:
>
> better, faster?  O.o... did you just say JavaScript is better than
> WPF? .
>
>
>
> I said 'someone's 10kb of JS is better.
>
>
>
> JavaScript is just Internet assembly language. It's the frameworks that
> matter.
>
>
>
> I used to hate JS with a passion, but the momentum around it is undeniable
> and the things people accomplish with frameworks on top of it are
> staggering.
>
>
> David Connors
> da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363
> Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors
> Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors
> Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

RE: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

[GregAtGregLowDotCom]

Isn't it all just perspective ? 

 

All other languages are just wrappers around machine code anyway. :)

 

"Resistance is futile"

 

"Any problem in computing can be solved by another layer of abstraction. And
any performance problem in computing can be solved by removing one layer of
abstraction."

 

Regards,

 

Greg

 

Dr Greg Low

 

1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax


SQL Down Under | Web:   www.sqldownunder.com

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Scott Barnes
Sent: Friday, 14 February 2014 11:42 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer
blogosphere)

 

David: I think the words your seeking are "JavaScript Stockholm Syndrome" ..
I object strongly to a language who's surrounded by frameworks that are hell
bent on abstracting developers from the said language as much as possible
because the said language is so far behind the evolution curve. Had JS moved
to ECMA4 - ECMA6 ..sure.. i'll play along but this JS ciricle jerk that's
going on because everyone's given the "defeatist" attitude... bleh... 

 

And yes, I will concede I see my future with me standing on the roadside way
"WILL CODE JS FOR CRACK"... 

 

 

 




---
Regards,
Scott Barnes
http://www.riagenic.com

 

On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 9:23 AM, David Connors mailto:da...@connors.com> > wrote:

On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Scott Barnes mailto:scott.bar...@gmail.com> > wrote:

better, faster?  O.o... did you just say JavaScript is better than WPF?
.

 

I said 'someone's 10kb of JS is better.

 

JavaScript is just Internet assembly language. It's the frameworks that
matter. 

 

I used to hate JS with a passion, but the momentum around it is undeniable
and the things people accomplish with frameworks on top of it are
staggering. 




David Connors
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RE: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

[Williams, Thomas]

Hey Scott - I have to admit I'm not particularly imaginative - if you were 
building the internet from scratch, what do you think would be better than 
JavaScript?

Does this product exist?

Thomas



From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Scott Barnes
Sent: Friday, 14 February 2014 11:42 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer 
blogosphere)

David: I think the words your seeking are "JavaScript Stockholm Syndrome" .. I 
object strongly to a language who's surrounded by frameworks that are hell bent 
on abstracting developers from the said language as much as possible because 
the said language is so far behind the evolution curve. Had JS moved to ECMA4 - 
ECMA6 ..sure.. i'll play along but this JS ciricle jerk that's going on because 
everyone's given the "defeatist" attitude... bleh...

And yes, I will concede I see my future with me standing on the roadside way 
"WILL CODE JS FOR CRACK"...




---
Regards,
Scott Barnes
http://www.riagenic.com

On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 9:23 AM, David Connors 
mailto:da...@connors.com>> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Scott Barnes 
mailto:scott.bar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
better, faster?  O.o... did you just say JavaScript is better than WPF? 
.

I said 'someone's 10kb of JS is better.

JavaScript is just Internet assembly language. It's the frameworks that matter.

I used to hate JS with a passion, but the momentum around it is undeniable and 
the things people accomplish with frameworks on top of it are staggering.


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Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

[Scott Barnes]

David: I think the words your seeking are "JavaScript Stockholm Syndrome"
.. I object strongly to a language who's surrounded by frameworks that are
hell bent on abstracting developers from the said language as much as
possible because the said language is so far behind the evolution curve.
Had JS moved to ECMA4 - ECMA6 ..sure.. i'll play along but this JS ciricle
jerk that's going on because everyone's given the "defeatist" attitude...
bleh...

And yes, I will concede I see my future with me standing on the roadside
way "WILL CODE JS FOR CRACK"...




---
Regards,
Scott Barnes
http://www.riagenic.com


On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 9:23 AM, David Connors  wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Scott Barnes wrote:
>
>> better, faster?  O.o... did you just say JavaScript is better than
>> WPF? .
>>
>
> I said 'someone's 10kb of JS is better.
>
> JavaScript is just Internet assembly language. It's the frameworks that
> matter.
>
> I used to hate JS with a passion, but the momentum around it is undeniable
> and the things people accomplish with frameworks on top of it are
> staggering.
>
> David Connors
> da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363
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>
>
>

Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

[Greg Keogh]

>
> JavaScript is just Internet assembly language. It's the frameworks that
> matter.
> I used to hate JS with a passion, but the momentum around it is undeniable
> and the things people accomplish with frameworks on top of it are
> staggering.
>

So it was you who poetically said last year "JavaScript is the assembly
language of the Internet". A nice metaphorical comparison that I have
passed on to others.

Scott, your description of JavaScript is too kind, I call it a tumour on
the Internet, but now it's spread so far that we've all just learned to
live with the pain.

I've used scripting languages of the JavaScript family for decades and they
were always great in their place, but now it's absurd that we have gigantic
frameworks spitting out script and minifying it like a poor man's optimised
machine code. The mere fact that jQuery even needed to be created is a hint
you can't ignore that something stinks.

I looked at the Kendo samples discussed yesterday and I almost laughed
aloud at the massive framework they had to create with an API over an API
over a typeless scripting language. It's very clever of course and it's a
tribute to just how "plastic" JavaScript is, but I think it's an
abomination.

Greg K

Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

[David Connors]

On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Scott Barnes wrote:

> better, faster?  O.o... did you just say JavaScript is better than
> WPF? .
>

I said 'someone's 10kb of JS is better.

JavaScript is just Internet assembly language. It's the frameworks that
matter.

I used to hate JS with a passion, but the momentum around it is undeniable
and the things people accomplish with frameworks on top of it are
staggering.

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Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

[Scott Barnes]

either all - does it matter either way?

In closing - JavaScript is the digital age’s version of herpes, every time
you think its gone a new outbreak occurs – DHTML, AJAX, “HTML5″

---
Regards,
Scott Barnes
http://www.riagenic.com


On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Craig van Nieuwkerk wrote:

> Does it even matter when for browser apps one of them is DOA?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Scott Barnes wrote:
>
>> better, faster?  O.o... did you just say JavaScript is better than
>> WPF? .
>>
>> ---
>> Regards,
>> Scott Barnes
>> http://www.riagenic.com
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:02 AM, David Connors  wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Scott Barnes wrote:
>>>
 *Stares at XAML runtime*... *stares at WPF*... *stares at .NET
 Developers* ...i figure if all you really did was change the namespaces out
 and strip away the Windows 8 Start menu shit, you're back to Win7 and WPF
 crap would work..only devs would be clueless that the rendering pipeline
 was changed. except for those few devs who sit there and giggle themselves
 to sleep at the inner workings of what happens and what's different.

>>>
>>> If by 'crap would work' I agree ... *crap* would work, then I agree.
>>> The web has won. Any rich app runtime is dead to me moving forward.
>>>
>>> As someone rightly said to me, MS spent the better part of a decade with
>>> all this data binding stuff in WPF - then someone writes 10kb of javascript
>>> that does the same thing better/faster.
>>>
>>> I mean, unrealengine in a browser with no plugins.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> David Connors
>>> da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363
>>> Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors
>>> Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors
>>> Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors
>>>
>>>
>>
>

RE: asp.net / database / coding issue.

[Nathan Chere]

Try changing your font from Comic Sans to something like Lucida Console or 
Courier New and run it again.

Don't worry, I think this one has caught us all out at some point in our lives.

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Glen Harvy
Sent: Wednesday, 12 February 2014 4:51 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: asp.net / database / coding issue.

Hi,

I have had a problem with one client of mine where they run a court rental 
agency for various councils and they do everything on a shoestring. I believe 
everything in the office is run on a laptop with 4 gig memory including my 
software which includes a web server which provides their users with the 
ability to book courts. I have had no reports of the problem from any of my 
other clients.

The specific issue is when I check that there are no present bookings before 
allowing a new booking for any specific time frame.

I have little in-depth knowledge of asp.net however I do believe that each 
customer logged on have their own session state and the html is created in that 
state and then fed to the customers browser. There should be no cross-over of 
this data in-memory however I notice that the problem seems to occur when there 
are more than two users logged in. I mention this because the problem may be 
with my coding and not with the database.

Here's the code which I have only just heavily modified in an effort to capture 
the specific problem:

[code=csharp]
  bool available = true;
  string location = "";

  Columns columns = requestedColumnNames(bookingStartDT, bookingPeriods);
  int columnsToBeCheckedCount = columns.ColumnsFirstDay.Count;
  int conflictsFound = 0;
  int columnsChecked = 0;


  using (MCData.DBManager dbManager = new 
MCData.DBManager(AppSettings.DataDirectory))
  {
try
{
  location = "Day 1";
  dbManager.Open();
  dbManager.AddParameter("@BookingDate", bookingStartDT.Date);
  dbManager.AddParameter("@FacilityID", facilityID);
  dbManager.ExecuteReader(CommandType.Text,
string.Format("SELECT BookingDate, Court, {0} FROM BTable WHERE 
BookingDate = @BookingDate AND Court = @FacilityID", columns.CSVFirstDay));
  logger.Debug("+++ FacilityID [{0}]", 
dbManager.Parameter["@FacilityID"].Value);
  logger.Debug("+++ BookingStartDT [{0}]", 
dbManager.Parameter["@BookingDate"].Value);
  logger.Debug("+++ SQL [{0}]", dbManager.Command.CommandText);
  logger.Debug("+++ Connection string [{0}]", 
dbManager.ConnectionString);
  int fieldsReturned = 0;
  using (IDataReader rdr = dbManager.DataReader)
  {
while (rdr.Read())
{
  for (int i = 0; i < rdr.FieldCount; i++)
  {
string column = rdr.GetName(i).ToString();
if (column.StartsWith("T"))
{
  fieldsReturned++;
  columnsChecked++;
  if (!Convert.IsDBNull(rdr.GetValue(i)))
  {
logger.Debug("+++ Facility [{0}] Date [{1}] Column [{2}] 
value is not null [{3}].",
  facilityID, bookingStartDT.Date, column, rdr.GetValue(i));
conflictsFound++;
  }
}
else if (column == "BookingDate")
{
  logger.Debug("+++ BookingDate returned [{0:-MM-dd 
HH:mm:ss}]", rdr.GetValue(i));
}
else if (column == "Court")
{
  logger.Debug("+++ Court returned [{0}]", rdr.GetValue(i));
}
  }
}
  }

  logger.Debug("+++ Number of fields tested for null value [{0}] of a 
total TColumn count of [{1}]",
fieldsReturned, columns.ColumnsFirstDay.Count);

  logger.Debug("+++ Columns to be checked count [{0}] Columns cheked 
count [{1}]",
columnsToBeCheckedCount, columnsChecked);

  if (columnsChecked == columnsToBeCheckedCount && conflictsFound > 0)
  {
logger.Debug("+++ All columns checked. Number of conflicts found 
[{0}]", conflictsFound);
available = false;
  }
  if (available && columnsChecked != columnsToBeCheckedCount)
  {
logger.Debug("+++ Not all columns checked. Setting availability to 
false.");
available = false;
  }

  if (available && conflictsFound > 0)
  {
logger.Debug("+++ Number of conflicts found [{0}]", conflictsFound);
available = false;
  }

  logger.Debug("+++ Available status is [{0}]", available);

[/code]


Now here's the log portion:

2014-02-12 09:42:07.9304 HP-HP MyCourtsOnline.Default.#wPc ypaul Check

RE: [OT] Favourite Coding Album

[Nathan Chere]

Maybe use something like Grooveshark’s collaborative playlists so it’s not just 
for the Win8 crowd?

http://help.grooveshark.com/customer/portal/articles/528163-collaborative-playlists


From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of osjasonrobe...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2014 3:17 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] Favourite Coding Album

Hope to - gonna blog the results which should be fun - anyone know if you can 
create Xbox Music playlists to share (or other ways to create sharable 
playlists??)

Jason Roberts
Journeyman Software Developer

Twitter: @robertsjason
Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com
Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts

From: mike smith
Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎13‎ ‎February‎ ‎2014 ‎12‎:‎15‎ ‎PM
To: ozDotNet

Going to makeup a playlist for us at the end?

On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Craig van Nieuwkerk 
mailto:crai...@gmail.com>> wrote:
If only the chicks were really for free!


On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 3:12 PM, mike smith 
mailto:meski...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Worked for me

(now listening to  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP2RUD_cL0&feature=kp )

Damn, I love that guitar!

On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 5:00 PM, 
mailto:osjasonrobe...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi all, thought it would be cool to write a fun blog post with programmers fave 
albums

I used Excel web app survey to create it which is pretty cool

http://bit.ly/programmermusicsurvey

Spread the word, will be cool to see the results 😊


Jason Roberts
Journeyman Software Developer

Twitter: @robertsjason
Blog: http://DontCodeTired.com
Pluralsight Courses: http://bit.ly/psjasonroberts




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Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

[Craig van Nieuwkerk]

Does it even matter when for browser apps one of them is DOA?


On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Scott Barnes wrote:

> better, faster?  O.o... did you just say JavaScript is better than
> WPF? .
>
> ---
> Regards,
> Scott Barnes
> http://www.riagenic.com
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:02 AM, David Connors  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Scott Barnes wrote:
>>
>>> *Stares at XAML runtime*... *stares at WPF*... *stares at .NET
>>> Developers* ...i figure if all you really did was change the namespaces out
>>> and strip away the Windows 8 Start menu shit, you're back to Win7 and WPF
>>> crap would work..only devs would be clueless that the rendering pipeline
>>> was changed. except for those few devs who sit there and giggle themselves
>>> to sleep at the inner workings of what happens and what's different.
>>>
>>
>> If by 'crap would work' I agree ... *crap* would work, then I agree. The
>> web has won. Any rich app runtime is dead to me moving forward.
>>
>> As someone rightly said to me, MS spent the better part of a decade with
>> all this data binding stuff in WPF - then someone writes 10kb of javascript
>> that does the same thing better/faster.
>>
>> I mean, unrealengine in a browser with no plugins.
>>
>>
>>
>> David Connors
>> da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363
>> Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors
>> Follow me on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/davidconnors
>> Connect with me on LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors
>>
>>
>

Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

[Scott Barnes]

better, faster?  O.o... did you just say JavaScript is better than WPF?
.

---
Regards,
Scott Barnes
http://www.riagenic.com


On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:02 AM, David Connors  wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Scott Barnes wrote:
>
>> *Stares at XAML runtime*... *stares at WPF*... *stares at .NET
>> Developers* ...i figure if all you really did was change the namespaces out
>> and strip away the Windows 8 Start menu shit, you're back to Win7 and WPF
>> crap would work..only devs would be clueless that the rendering pipeline
>> was changed. except for those few devs who sit there and giggle themselves
>> to sleep at the inner workings of what happens and what's different.
>>
>
> If by 'crap would work' I agree ... *crap* would work, then I agree. The
> web has won. Any rich app runtime is dead to me moving forward.
>
> As someone rightly said to me, MS spent the better part of a decade with
> all this data binding stuff in WPF - then someone writes 10kb of javascript
> that does the same thing better/faster.
>
> I mean, unrealengine in a browser with no plugins.
>
>
>
> David Connors
> da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363
> Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors
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>
>

Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

[David Connors]

On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Scott Barnes wrote:

> *Stares at XAML runtime*... *stares at WPF*... *stares at .NET Developers*
> ...i figure if all you really did was change the namespaces out and strip
> away the Windows 8 Start menu shit, you're back to Win7 and WPF crap would
> work..only devs would be clueless that the rendering pipeline was changed.
> except for those few devs who sit there and giggle themselves to sleep at
> the inner workings of what happens and what's different.
>

If by 'crap would work' I agree ... *crap* would work, then I agree. The
web has won. Any rich app runtime is dead to me moving forward.

As someone rightly said to me, MS spent the better part of a decade with
all this data binding stuff in WPF - then someone writes 10kb of javascript
that does the same thing better/faster.

I mean, unrealengine in a browser with no plugins.



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Re: Migrating TFS

[Scott Barnes]

Like I said, in some parts i'll call "bullship!" and in other you'd have to
say outloud "yeah...my bad..." ...

Learning for Silverlight = Poor.
Performance of Silverlight = Great (multi-threading, gpu/cpu access etc).
You just probably needed more guidance but even as I type this I hear
myself "Yeah sure, blame the developer for not knowing how to run the
runtime...that's smart..." and slowly let my eyes fall to the ground with a
mumbled "ok...fine...our bad.."
Debugging of Silverlight = Meh, depends on what methodology/framework
you're using to data snack between server & client. I've personally never
once ran into that issue and i'll even lump Silverlight for mobile into
that equation (XBOX Halo Waypoint for windows phone for example took a lot
of engineering muscle to take large XML packets into a phone from the XBOX
Live services team..which meant sucking it in, processing it inside the
phone and then displaying it...and that was early bits of Silverlight on
mobile..and still...debugging wasn't as bad as you outline...) .. that
being said... i lost credibility (didn't have much to begin with) when I
said "depends on the framework/methodology" ...which translates for me to
"derp derp barnes, you're a jerk, derp derp" :)

Productivity games i'll agree with. If you've never really gotten used to
plugin development in terms of "RIA" (what we kids used to call it). It's a
complete 180 in terms of behaviour traits in developers, as I noticed that
even in Flash/Flex circles often developers would echo the fatal words "ahh
screw this, i'm going back to my comfort blanket HTML/JS.." as at least the
mediocrity is stabilized and time is slower for them to figure out state
management and datagrids are solved with big fat TABLE tags (oh sorry, now
its "div tags with CSS hacks") (Yes I roll my eyes at HTML/JS) :)

Bah.. i think about the whole first years of Silverlight and i wish I had
have pushed harder on a select few to stop being jerks and listen to the
needs of a few other people to get funding so we could fix this crap and
then I still come back to a conversation I had once with the leadership
team around "Well...what happens if we do beat Flash..." to which one said
"Well we'd break the glass, take the briefcase out, open the envelope and
inside it would read - Congrats, now burn this plugin and focus on IE"

So it was inevitable i guess :) (I think i'm up to Stage 5 of Silverlight
Grief).


---
Regards,
Scott Barnes
http://www.riagenic.com


On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Tony Wright  wrote:

> Alright I pay some of that. Within the corporate environment I was in for
> the major project, we were also coding on 32 bit machines. We had
> continuous memory overflow issues, which we raise to MS and were told it
> wasn't going to be fixed because it was 32 bit issues. Together with the
> crashes and pauses caused by switching to visual XAML view, development
> became a major hastle. We eventually had to turn off visual view for
> stability reasons.
>
>
>
> As for the async stuff. Yes, async is always going to be hard to debug,
> but for some reason, it was even harder in Silverlight. Sure, if you get
> the pattern right you shouldn't have any major problems overall, but having
> to use fiddler to do simple diagnosis, a third party tool, was bizarre.
>
>
>
> In the end, when we looked at the stats, we found that developers were
> heaps less productive with Silverlight than with web apps. It actually took
> an embarrassing long time for people to get a Silverlight app debugged
> relative to a web app. What took a week or two to do in web seemed to take
> a month in Silverlight. We can talk all we want about the reasons for that,
> and what gaps existed in developer Silverlight knowledge, but the reality
> was that this became irrelevant with a significant team of developers. It
> just took them far too long to learn and develop.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes
> *Sent:* Thursday, 13 February 2014 12:26 PM
>
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: Migrating TFS
>
>
>
> Yeah i'm calling "Spacer Problem" on your issues described (ie the space
> between Silverlight and you). Everything you've outlined can be distilled
> into "We haven't yet figured out how deep linking as a concept works
> because we're used to HTTP handling that burden for us" through to "Async
> is hard stuff"
>
> Devs tweaked XAML because some idiot in the Visual Studio team decided to
> let devs access XAML natively in the tooling, but forget to check off the
> performance issues that come with Design vs XAML view. It was a conditioned
> response to that problem and given XAML was really never meant to be a code
> centric workflow it just baffles the mind at times as to who was actually
> in charge of that mission and how they justified it to business reviews we
> had. Blend was also a huge issue given they had zero time for Ux
> stabilisation(s) and no real 

Re: Advice to Microsoft (not mine - the IT press and developer blogosphere)

[Scott Barnes]

*Stares at XAML runtime*... *stares at WPF*... *stares at .NET Developers*
...i figure if all you really did was change the namespaces out and strip
away the Windows 8 Start menu shit, you're back to Win7 and WPF crap would
work..only devs would be clueless that the rendering pipeline was changed.
except for those few devs who sit there and giggle themselves to sleep at
the inner workings of what happens and what's different.



---
Regards,
Scott Barnes
http://www.riagenic.com


On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 3:15 PM, David Connors  wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Scott Barnes wrote:
>
>> I'm hoping he's behind the WPF reboot rumours i'm hearing more and more
>> of.
>>
>
> WPF Reboot?
>
> I for one can't wait for 2 gigabyte of RAM footprint calculator
> applications and my GPU shitting itself trying to draw a green square at
> 3fps.
>
> Rich applications are dead. Long live rich applications!
>
> http://www.unrealengine.com/html5/
>
> David.
>
>