RE: Apple OSX, IOS and Audio

2014-06-08 Thread Rob Tabor
Honey-Fur, since you don't subscribe to the blind audio list I am forwarding
you this posting from Dane Trethowan from the land down under about the new
features that will be included in the next major upgrade of the iOS
operating system. Fascinating stuff...Enjoy.
Love forever and all oodels,
Xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
BiggyFur

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2014 7:48 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Apple OSX, IOS and Audio

Hi!

I've been reading about some of the new features and highlights of the new
Mac OSX, IOS for iPhone etc which will be released in September.

From an audio point of view there seems to be much to look forward to.

Apple continues the gradual Step-by-Step integration of OSX and IOS.

firstly, if you have an Apple Mac running the latest OSX and an iPhone
running the latest IOS then you'll be able to anser and make calls from your
Mac through your iPhone, this sounds most promising not only for
practicality but also for those of us who use headphones to communicate via
phone or other medium, early days yet so we'll wait and see what happens.

Another huge step forward is the ability to connect to your mobile carrier
using your Wi-Fi network rather than the cell phone tower, nice and handy
for those of us who aren't in high strength coverage areas.

How widely available this feature will become is going to very much depend
on mobile carrieres, I know that T Mobile in the States have announced their
intention to support the system.

SIRI will be given a total overhall, SIRI will Listen for you to say the
words Hey SIRI! and from that point SIRI will be ready to accept your
voice commands.

IOS and OSX will integrate further with your household items and electrical
systems, for example you'll be able to say to SIRI Goodnight, SIRI will
then dim the lights, lock the doors, turn on the security system and so on.



**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
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RE: Apple OSX, IOS and Audio

2014-06-08 Thread Rob Tabor
Last reply was a mistake. {Lease disregard. s

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2014 7:48 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Apple OSX, IOS and Audio

Hi!

I've been reading about some of the new features and highlights of the new
Mac OSX, IOS for iPhone etc which will be released in September.

From an audio point of view there seems to be much to look forward to.

Apple continues the gradual Step-by-Step integration of OSX and IOS.

firstly, if you have an Apple Mac running the latest OSX and an iPhone
running the latest IOS then you'll be able to anser and make calls from your
Mac through your iPhone, this sounds most promising not only for
practicality but also for those of us who use headphones to communicate via
phone or other medium, early days yet so we'll wait and see what happens.

Another huge step forward is the ability to connect to your mobile carrier
using your Wi-Fi network rather than the cell phone tower, nice and handy
for those of us who aren't in high strength coverage areas.

How widely available this feature will become is going to very much depend
on mobile carrieres, I know that T Mobile in the States have announced their
intention to support the system.

SIRI will be given a total overhall, SIRI will Listen for you to say the
words Hey SIRI! and from that point SIRI will be ready to accept your
voice commands.

IOS and OSX will integrate further with your household items and electrical
systems, for example you'll be able to say to SIRI Goodnight, SIRI will
then dim the lights, lock the doors, turn on the security system and so on.



**

Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane







RE: Sirius-Xm Satellite Radio

2013-10-30 Thread Rob Tabor
Hi Dave and list,

I've had about the same results with the Sirius XM online listening page. If
you have an iOS device or a droid the only option that is anywhere close to
being accessible is the Sirius XM app, and even that has to be tweked
somewhat, e.g., custom labeling the tabs which Voiceover idenfifies as
button. . Sorry I don't' have better news.

Best regards,
Rob Jayhawk Tabor

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dave
Marthouse
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 7:51 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Sirius-Xm Satellite Radio

I signed up for the free 30 day trial to see if it was accessible but I'm
afraid that it is as I said hit or miss.  The system uses some kind of
strange flash oriented player.  I think there should be an alternative like
a standard webpage with standard combo and list boxes that uses the media
player of your choice for the audio.  But that's just my opinion for what
it's worth.

Dave

 

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On Behalf Of Ray Williams
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 8:43 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Sirius-Xm Satellite Radio

no, there is none that I know of.  if however, someone does find one, please
let me know

On 10/30/13, Dave Marthouse dmartho...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does anyone know of any accessible alternatives to the flash 
 player that you must use for Sirius satellite radio on the internet.
 It can be used in a hit or miss way with Jaws and Nvda but I would 
 hardly call it accessible.
 Any information would be appreciated.



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RE: Is XM radio blind accessible with windows XP

2013-10-01 Thread Rob Tabor
Good evening all,

Having experienced both the SXM online listening page and the iPhone app I
would definintly conclude the app is considerably more accessible than the
audio streaming website. However, one has to do a bit of tweaking to make
the app navigable. For one thing, the main menu buttons at the bottom are
unlabeled as far as Voiceover is concerned, so one does have to create
custom labels which you do with a 2-finger double tap and hold gesture.
Actifating the categories button enables you to browse the channels, which
is much more than can be said of the SXM listening webpage. Were it not for
the iPhone app I would not have added internet radio to my subscription.

Best regards,
Rob Tabor
Sales Consultant Commtech LLC
(888) 351-5289 ext704
Commtechusa.net/qr2
robert.ta...@commtechusa.net
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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Ray T.
Mahorney
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 6:55 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Is XM radio blind accessible with windows XP

to add to this thread somewhat you're not going to get very far with the
IPhone app either.


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
Kaufman
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 20:52
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Is XM radio blind accessible with windows XP

Joe and list:  Although I basically agree with what Joe is saying, a very
little of XM is somewhat accessible with Windows XP.  Having said that, I
wouldn't buy it as I have also tried it; not enough of it is accessible
enough (at least not to me) to justify buying it!  Is a shame, for there are
some things that would really be cool!  For example, if memory serves me,
XM's on Demand feature is available on line; there again, (at least as far
as I know) we cannot access it!
Tom Kaufman

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 3:31 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Is XM radio blind accessible with windows XP

I never intended to buy it, but just to see how the new Art Bell show was, I
decided to trial serious XM with my computer using XP and Jaws. Boy! was
that a mistake. It doesn't seem to work at all. I'm fairly advanced using
the computer and can't even log in using either fire fox or explorer.
Is it just me? or is this not accessible. I'm not knocking anyone who uses
it, but I'd never pay for satellite radio. Especially when they still have
commercials on it, and when they're so many free choices out there to listen
to. Like the accessible Pandora with the hope software. Satellite radio?
ridiculous. I'm Serious. Thanks in advance. Joe.
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RE: Goldwave/JAWS Questions

2013-09-18 Thread Rob Tabor
Hi Jim and Listers,

When I first started learning to use GW I had trouble with GW crashing JAWS
and often the only way to recover speech was to reboot, which was
frustrating because it often required me to start all over again with a
project. In any event I discovered that JAWS and GW interface much more
cooperatively after I reset all the controls in the visual tab of the user
preferences to blank. This in effect disables all the visuals which had
been causing video intercept conflicts in JAWS. I have not had a bit of
trouble with losing speech during the operation of GW since then, and this
has held true throughout several updates of both applications.

HTH and best regards,
Rob Jayhawk Tabor

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Jim Hunt
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 5:12 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Goldwave/JAWS Questions

Hello All,

 

I recently heard that Microsoft will discontinue support for Windows XP in
March of next year, 2014.  With that in mind, I had asked a friend here in
my area to install Windows 7 32-bit on my Netbook.  So he did, and for a
while, all had been going beautifully.  I have Jaws 14 32-bit on the
netbook, using Eloquence speech.  For audio editing, I used Goldwave.

 

Here is where I have run into a problem:  I can use Goldwave fine for a
while with JAWS and my Logitech ClearChat USB headphones plugged into a USB
port, but after a while, JAWS stops speaking.  Sometimes I can get JAWS to
start speaking again by disconnecting the USB headphones, and eventually
JAWS stops speaking altogether.  At that point, I cannot even get my
portable NVDA on my flash drive to start.  When that happens, I ask a
sighted person to read the screen to tell me what is displayed on it. With
that information, I then save what I had been working on in Goldwave, close
Goldwave, power-down the Netbook, and power it back up again and wait for
JAWS to start speaking.

 

I have noticed two interesting things:  JAWS and Goldwave do not behave this
way on the bigger, faster Dell laptop that I have, neither do they behave
strangely when using NVDA on either machine.  The problem I mentioned above
only happens when I use JAWS, Goldwave and the USB headphones on the
Netbook.  So, could this be a problem in JAWS, a USB port issue on the
Netbook, or is there something I am or am not doing?

 

If anyone has any suggestions on what I can do to solve the problem or get
around it, please do feel free to let me know on or off list.

 

Thanks,

Jim

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RE: Program for general recording on the PC needed.

2013-07-20 Thread Rob Tabor
Good morning Dave and list members,

An external synth is certainly a workable solution to your recording
dilemma. However, if you go that route I would advise you to use your sound
card to run JAWS and use the external synth for other audio for the simple
reason that if you lose speech it will be much easier to rule out hardware
failure as a cause. For example, if you hear Windows system warning sounds
you will be able to rule out hardware failure if you have JAWS configured to
run on the system's internal soundcard. Conversely,  it will be much harder
to rule out hardware failure if JAWS is configured to run on the plugin
speech box. It's just a thought to ponder and I hope it helps.

Best regards,
Rob Jayhawk Tabor

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dave
Scrimenti
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 4:48 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Program for general recording on the PC needed.

I've been trying to avoid external sound cards in order to keep the laptop
portable, but there might not be any other solution. Thank goodness for
these new and improved operating systems that do everything except what you
need them to do.
- Original Message -
From: Robert Logue bobca...@telusplanet.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: Program for general recording on the PC needed.


 Yes.A usb sound card for speech is a good idea.  You can even get usb 
 digital speakers that are fine with Jaws such as the Palo Alto Audio 
 Design Musik Digital Multimedia Speakers  for arounf $50.  Or a usb 
 sound bar for laptops.  Be sure it acts as a sound card as well as 
 drawing power from usb.  This is the simplest solution I've found.  I 
 did have a problem with Jaws not responding or speaking quickly if it 
 hadn't been talking for a while but somehow that is fixed.

 They are not good for music having no bass or treble but pretty good 
 with speech.

 Bob
 On 7/19/2013 11:27 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
 Also, another sound card for speech, but you said that would be 
 difficult, but maybe a usb one would work.


 ken reed kvreed...@comcast.net wrote:

 Hi Dave,
 The only way around this is to get a trippletalk external synth.
 Another way is to get the virtual cable.  Don't ask me anything 
 about virtual cables , I haven't got one yet.
 I only know it's about $50.
 I think it might do the trick.


 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Scrimenti
 Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 1:09 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Program for general recording on the PC needed.

 Access isn't a problem with Total Recorder. In fact, it's one of the 
 easiest, most fully-featured programs. It just can not record in Win 
 7 or 8 without getting the screen reader in the mix. Can Audacity? 
 It seems to me, there should be some way to do in 7 or 8 something 
 that was so easy in XP.
 - Original Message -
 From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 5:19 AM
 Subject: Re: Program for general recording on the PC needed.


 hi,
 little misser about jaws.
 you got to press jaws key + space then s, for speech on / off.

 Why not use the fully accessible audacity, which is an amazing tool 
 for recording and editing audio.
 Best regards
 Brian

 -Oprindelig meddelelse-
 From: Aidan Maher
 Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:14 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Program for general recording on the PC needed.

 Hi, I suggest you update total recorder to the latest version, then 
 you choose software recording and you just switch off jaws speech 
 buy pressing insert plus space (before recording) and the same 
 keystroak again to put speech back on, if you have jaws ten or 
 older, you would need to use insert plus v, press the end key and 
 then spacebar to turn speech off and then enter.

 On 19/07/2013, Dave Scrimenti dscrime...@comcast.net wrote:
 Hello,
 I'm looking for a program I can use to record things like internet 
 streams from Hulu, YouTube etc, as well as my slingbox, Rhapsody 
 and so on. In short, I want to record stuff I hear on my PC. The 
 problem I'm having is that the program I currently use, Total 
 Recorder, is unable to record the audio I want without also 
 recording the screen reader, Jaws. In XP, Total Recorder could 
 separate the audio streams and keep Jaws out of the recording, but 
 it can't do it in Windows 7 or 8. Is there another program I can 
 use that will do this? I could use 2 sound cards, 1 for JAWS, 1 
 for stuff I want to record, but I'm using a laptop. So I'd have to 
 take the computer, external sound card, and headphones or speakers 
 everywhere I go, which is  quite annoying. Any help is greatly 
 appreciated.
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RE: Program for general recording on the PC needed.

2013-07-19 Thread Rob Tabor
Good afternoon,

I have not tried using VAC, but I have every assurance of its accessibility
with JAWS and NVDA, but I can't say for sure as to whether or how well VAC
works with We. Several instructors and students of the Cisco Academy for the
Visually Impaired (CAVI), are using VAC with overwhelming success.  The main
thing to be aware of is the learning curve that lies before you, and it will
take a lot of trial and error to configure all the inputs, throughputs, and
outputs to get the program to connect various components correctly, be they
hardware or software. Good luck with VAC if that is how you decide to go.

Best regards,
Rob Jayhawk Tabor

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dave
Scrimenti
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 1:32 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Program for general recording on the PC needed.

I'll look in to that. If anyone's tried Virtual Audio Cable, let me know if
it works, and is accessible.
- Original Message -
From: ken reed kvreed...@comcast.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: Program for general recording on the PC needed.


 Hi Dave,
 The only way around this is to get a trippletalk external synth.
 Another way is to get the virtual cable.  Don't ask me anything about 
 virtual cables , I haven't got one yet.
 I only know it's about $50.
 I think it might do the trick.


 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Scrimenti
 Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 1:09 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Program for general recording on the PC needed.

 Access isn't a problem with Total Recorder. In fact, it's one of the 
 easiest, most fully-featured programs. It just can not record in Win 7 
 or
 8
 without getting the screen reader in the mix. Can Audacity? It seems 
 to me, there should be some way to do in 7 or 8 something that was so 
 easy in XP.
 - Original Message -
 From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 5:19 AM
 Subject: Re: Program for general recording on the PC needed.


 hi,
 little misser about jaws.
 you got to press jaws key + space then s, for speech on / off.

 Why not use the fully accessible audacity, which is an amazing tool 
 for recording and editing audio.
 Best regards
 Brian

 -Oprindelig meddelelse-
 From: Aidan Maher
 Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:14 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Program for general recording on the PC needed.

 Hi, I suggest you update total recorder to the latest version, then 
 you choose software recording and you just switch off jaws speech 
 buy pressing insert plus space (before recording) and the same 
 keystroak again to put speech back on, if you have jaws ten or older, 
 you would need to use insert plus v, press the end key and then 
 spacebar to turn speech off and then enter.

 On 19/07/2013, Dave Scrimenti dscrime...@comcast.net wrote:
 Hello,
 I'm looking for a program I can use to record things like internet 
 streams from Hulu, YouTube etc, as well as my slingbox, Rhapsody and 
 so on. In short, I want to record stuff I hear on my PC. The problem 
 I'm having is that the program I currently use, Total Recorder, is 
 unable to record the audio I want without also recording the screen 
 reader, Jaws. In XP, Total Recorder could separate the audio streams 
 and keep Jaws out of the recording, but it can't do it in Windows 7 
 or 8. Is there another program I can use that will do this? I could 
 use 2 sound cards, 1 for JAWS, 1 for stuff I want to record, but I'm 
 using a laptop. So I'd have to take the computer, external sound 
 card, and headphones or speakers everywhere I go, which is  quite 
 annoying. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Question re. the Sirius XM App

2013-06-17 Thread Rob Tabor
Good evening,

 

I'm thinking of installing the Sirius XM app on my new iPhone 5 and I am
curious as to whether anyone on list has had experience with its interface
with Voiceover. I'm rather leary of it from the getgo as I've been sorely
disappointed in the Sirius XM listening page which allowed screen reader
access to go by-by long ago. Under these conditions I'm not optimistic that
the smartphone app will be any better. All feedback is welcome and much
appreciated.

 

Best regards,

Rob Jayhawk Tabor

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RE: audacity

2013-05-23 Thread Rob Tabor
Good morning Joe and list,

Here is a link to a series of tutorials from the SourceForge wiki.
wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Category:Tutorial
‎IYou will see it covers a wide range of topics related to sound production
and editing, so it should be enough to get you started and then some. Happy
sounds to you.
Best regards,
Rob Jayhawk Tabor

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Joe
Bollard
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 4:42 AM
To: pc- audio
Subject: audacity

hello friends, i'm looking for some help on audacity, i've downloaded and
installed it, but now i'm looking to find either a podcast on it or a
tutorial, i have jaws 11 and windows xp, any suggestions? take care, god
bless, travel safely, joe bollard, the republic of ireland. 


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RE: removing vocal from music

2013-05-16 Thread Rob Tabor
Good morning andré and listers,

The answer to your question is yes because much of that earlier rock and roll, 
adult pop, and even country  music has been digitally remastered several years 
ago, and when originally recorded it was done on separate tape machines or with 
multi-track overdubbing technology. By the way, there are karaoke services 
online that have already removed the vocal solo tracks and have them available 
for purchase on a subscription basis. I haven't researched this myself, but let 
Google be your friend and help you find one if you would like to consider going 
that route. Have a good day and happy karaoke singing to you.

Best regards,
Rob Jayhawk Tabor

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of André van 
Deventer
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 2:07 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: removing vocal from music

Rob

Thanx very interesting.

My question is then this:  Would you then be able to do the same kind of things 
with arrangements recorded in the 50s or 60s?

Imagine being able to sing along with the Jordanaires or the Anita Curr 
singers!!

I suppose not!



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Rob Tabor
Sent: 16 May 2013 05:50 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: removing vocal from music

Good evening André, Roger and list,

Roger is correct in that pretty much all professionally produced CD's and the 
new vinyls are recorded in a multi-track format. As to recording and editing 
software, there are several audio packages that offer multi-track capabilities. 
Some of these applications include Audacity which is a free download, Reaper, 
which is a very moderately priced package which costs in the $35 to $40 range, 
and Sonar, which is a high end multi-track sound editor which is often used by 
professional recording studios. To give equal coverage to avid Mac users, there 
are Mac-based multi-track editors as well. I believe one of these is called 
Cakewalk and Studio Garage Band or something simllar to that also.

About all of these sound editors will enable the user to solo individual tracks 
or listen to the full mix. I provide this explanation as I think it makes it 
easier to envision that eliminating specified tracks is by no means a 
technically difficult task. So happy karaoke time.

Best regards,
Rob Tabor

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
roger.so...@virgin.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 6:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: removing vocal from music

The guy I knew never seemed to have any problems. So maybe they all are done 
that way when recorded professionally.

Roger

-Original Message-
From: André van Deventer
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:12 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: removing vocal from music

Interesting.

But that will then only work for music which is specifically recorded in that 
way?

Andre



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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
roger.so...@virgin.net
Sent: 15 May 2013 10:07 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: removing vocal from music

A friend, before he died, make his living singing with a portable karaoke 
machine and he used the type of software you describe to strip the vocals off 
of CD's. I understand the CD's have the vocals in a different track to the 
music so it is relatively easy for software to achieve this. Remember a lot of 
music CD's are compiled with each instrument, sound effect and vocal being on a 
different track and synchronised and put together for the finished result.

Roger

-Original Message-
From: André van Deventer
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:54 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: removing vocal from music

Hi all



I’m just curious.



On the internet I see software advertised that is supposed to be able to remove 
the vocals from a track so that you can use it for karaoke.



I must confess I am rather sceptical about these claims?  But is this actually 
possible?





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RE: removing vocal from music

2013-05-15 Thread Rob Tabor
Good evening André, Roger and list,

Roger is correct in that pretty much all professionally produced CD's and the 
new vinyls are recorded in a multi-track format. As to recording and editing 
software, there are several audio packages that offer multi-track capabilities. 
Some of these applications include Audacity which is a free download, Reaper, 
which is a very moderately priced package which costs in the $35 to $40 range, 
and Sonar, which is a high end multi-track sound editor which is often used by 
professional recording studios. To give equal coverage to avid Mac users, there 
are Mac-based multi-track editors as well. I believe one of these is called 
Cakewalk and Studio Garage Band or something simllar to that also.

About all of these sound editors will enable the user to solo individual tracks 
or listen to the full mix. I provide this explanation as I think it makes it 
easier to envision that eliminating specified tracks is by no means a 
technically difficult task. So happy karaoke time.

Best regards,
Rob Tabor

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Subject: Re: removing vocal from music

The guy I knew never seemed to have any problems. So maybe they all are done 
that way when recorded professionally.

Roger

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From: André van Deventer
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:12 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: removing vocal from music

Interesting.

But that will then only work for music which is specifically recorded in that 
way?

Andre



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Sent: 15 May 2013 10:07 AM
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Subject: Re: removing vocal from music

A friend, before he died, make his living singing with a portable karaoke 
machine and he used the type of software you describe to strip the vocals off 
of CD's. I understand the CD's have the vocals in a different track to the 
music so it is relatively easy for software to achieve this. Remember a lot of 
music CD's are compiled with each instrument, sound effect and vocal being on a 
different track and synchronised and put together for the finished result.

Roger

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Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 8:54 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: removing vocal from music

Hi all



I’m just curious.



On the internet I see software advertised that is supposed to be able to
remove the vocals from a track so that you can use it for karaoke.



I must confess I am rather sceptical about these claims?  But is this
actually possible?





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RE: Goldwave help

2013-01-24 Thread Rob Tabor
Hey, Loren.

Glad to see you posting on the PC Audio List. I think you'll find a lot of
good info hear if you want to go ahead and subscribe. As to tutorials for
Goldwave, the Blind Geek Zone by Rick Harmon has a very thorough series of
audio tutorials which can be found at
http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/bgz-audio-archives/#Goldwave. You can also
find some very useful JAWS scripts for GW, which Harmon also demos in his
podcast series. 
HTH and best regards,
Rob Tabor Lawrence/KS/USA

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Subject: Goldwave help

Where can I find tutorials concerning Goldwave and windows seven? Is there a
version I must use for Windows seven?

Loren Buntemeyer
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RE: an annoyance with Winamp and time markers

2012-12-12 Thread Rob Tabor
Good morning colleagues and especially Howard,

I am inclined to agree that Winamp likely does not store time markkers
within the audio file being played, but does so in a separate metadata or
config file, similar to the way the VictorReader Stream does with its
bookmarks which it stores in a .bkm file. Now that you have me curious, I am
hot on the trail of investigating that question and will get back to you.
Should someone beat me to the punch bowl grin I thank him or her in
advance. Have a joyfiled holiday season all.
Best regards,
Rob Tabor

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Traxler
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:26 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: an annoyance with Winamp and time markers

Rob, where does winamp store these markers?  Doesn't seem like it'd be in
the audio file, though one never knows.
Howard
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Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 8:43 AM
Subject: RE: an annoyance with Winamp


 Good morning Larry and Listers.

 You may or may not know that Winap enables you to time jump the 
 playback cursor to a specific time point. If you type CTRL+J you will 
 be prompted to enter a time. For example, if you want to jump the 
 cursor to 22 minutes and
 35 seconds you would type 22:35 and press Enter. IF you want to jump 
 to the
 2 hour 28 minute mark you would type 148:00. This is because Winamp 
 appears to operate in minutes recognition mode as opposed to the 
 hh/mm/ss format.

 Alternatively, Winamp also enables time markers to be defined and to 
 move from one specified time marker to another, very analogous to 
 setting bookmarks in a digital book audio file. To set a time kmarker 
 you would type m, and to go to a preset time marker type alt+shift+M. 
 I hope this helps.
 Best regards,
 Rob Tabor

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 Larry
 Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 7:43 PM
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Subject: an annoyance with Winamp

 Hello listers,

 I sure hope someone can help me with a rather frustrating and annoying 
 problem when listening to large mp3 files with Winamp. I've been 
 experiencing this issue for longer than I should have been putting up 
 with it, but I think it is high time I finally took it to all of you 
 reliable experts in the field of Winamp listening g.
 Anyway, the problem I'm having is this.

 When listening to files up to 150 or 160mb in size, At about the 
 halfway point, maybe even earlier, my fast-forward and rewinding just 
 isn't as responsive as it is near the beginning anymore. At least I 
 don't think I recall having this problem until just recently. I'm just 
 hoping that this will be a simple problem to solve, or I guess I'll 
 just have to learn to live with it.

 Any help will be greatly appreciated,

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RE: an annoyance with Winamp

2012-12-10 Thread Rob Tabor
Good morning Larry and Listers.

You may or may not know that Winap enables you to time jump the playback
cursor to a specific time point. If you type CTRL+J you will be prompted to
enter a time. For example, if you want to jump the cursor to 22 minutes and
35 seconds you would type 22:35 and press Enter. IF you want to jump to the
2 hour 28 minute mark you would type 148:00. This is because Winamp appears
to operate in minutes recognition mode as opposed to the hh/mm/ss format.

Alternatively, Winamp also enables time markers to be defined and to move
from one specified time marker to another, very analogous to setting
bookmarks in a digital book audio file. To set a time kmarker you would type
m, and to go to a preset time marker type alt+shift+M. I hope this helps.
Best regards,
Rob Tabor

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Larry
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 7:43 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: an annoyance with Winamp

Hello listers,

I sure hope someone can help me with a rather frustrating and annoying
problem when listening to large mp3 files with Winamp. I've been
experiencing this issue for longer than I should have been putting up with
it, but I think it is high time I finally took it to all of you reliable
experts in the field of Winamp listening g. 
Anyway, the problem I'm having is this.

When listening to files up to 150 or 160mb in size, At about the halfway
point, maybe even earlier, my fast-forward and rewinding just isn't as
responsive as it is near the beginning anymore. At least I don't think I
recall having this problem until just recently. I'm just hoping that this
will be a simple problem to solve, or I guess I'll just have to learn to
live with it.

Any help will be greatly appreciated,

Larry  


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RE: fission

2012-11-24 Thread Rob Tabor
Hi Tim.

I don't' know of any specific podcasts or audio presentations on fision, but
mayh I suggest a Google search using the key words fision and podcast with
the filetype operator. The syntax of a Google search might go podcast
~fision filetype:mp3.
I suggest use of the filetype search operator as most podcasts are made
available in MP3 audio format.You might also use the synonyms operator in
case there are other words being used synonymously and interchangeably with
fusion. Entering a tilde (~) before the word that has or may have at least
one commonly used synonym can be useful in broadening your Google search in
a precision way that gets you more relevant information without adding
irrelevant clutter to plow through. Make sure there is no space before the
word whose synonym(s) you want to have searched as in the example I give
above.
HTH and best rgards,
Rob Tabor. 
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Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 9:09 AM
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Subject: fission

Anyone no of a podcast on fission.

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RE: Accessible Impulse Response Converter

2012-11-23 Thread Rob Tabor
Samuel, being a JAWS user I am unable to speak directly to your question as
to accessibility of Reaper with we, but there is an accessibility plugin
called REA access which reportedly adds keyboard functionality to all four
of the major popular screen readers including JAWS, Window-Eyes, NVDA, and
System Access. Hope this helps.
Best regards,
Rob Tabor

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Wilkins
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 11:35 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessible Impulse Response Converter

Hello Rob, thank you for your response.  How accessible is Reeper with
Window-Eyes?  

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Sent: 22 November 2012 14:20
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Accessible Impulse Response Converter

Hello Samuel and list.

In partial answer to your question there is a sound editor called Reaper
which has several free VST (virtual instruments and effects) plugins
available for download, convolution reverb being one of them. I will
forewarn you, however, that Reaper is very sophisticated with a boatload of
features and audio effects and has a rather steep learning curve. If you
want to produce convolution reverb without using an audio editing package, I
have no other solutions to suggest at this time. I wish you the best with
your project.
Best regards,
Rob Tabor KS/USA

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To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Accessible Impulse Response Converter

Hello everyone, I was wondering if anyone knows of an accessible programme
that can convert wave files into impulse response files to use with sound
files.  I am studying impulse response files for making convolution reverb
in university, and I am interested in making my own.  Thank you.  


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RE: Accessible Impulse Response Converter

2012-11-22 Thread Rob Tabor
Hello Samuel and list.

In partial answer to your question there is a sound editor called Reaper
which has several free VST (virtual instruments and effects) plugins
available for download, convolution reverb being one of them. I will
forewarn you, however, that Reaper is very sophisticated with a boatload of
features and audio effects and has a rather steep learning curve. If you
want to produce convolution reverb without using an audio editing package, I
have no other solutions to suggest at this time. I wish you the best with
your project.
Best regards,
Rob Tabor KS/USA

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Wilkins
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 7:09 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Accessible Impulse Response Converter

Hello everyone, I was wondering if anyone knows of an accessible programme
that can convert wave files into impulse response files to use with sound
files.  I am studying impulse response files for making convolution reverb
in university, and I am interested in making my own.  Thank you.  


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RE: multi track audio recording in windows?

2012-10-24 Thread Rob Tabor
CAVI trains people from pretty much all over the planet. That's the beauty
of its online interface.

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hank
Smith
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 12:28 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: multi track audio recording in windows?

what about people in other countries though?
On 10/23/2012 10:02 PM, Rob Tabor wrote:
 Good evening,

 The CAVI course offerings are both local at the Association of the 
 Blind of Western Australia in Perth with a distance learning component 
 complete with live interactive class presentations and even those 
 lovely timed multiple choice exams, but not yet in the Audio 
 fundamentals course, at least  as of yet. I would invite you to visit 
 ciscovision.org and Cucat.org for a full description of the CAVI 
 course offerings including beginning, intermediate, and advanced 
 courses for aspiring PC technicians. The Audio fundamentals course is 
 a first time offering. I invite you or anyone else who is interested 
 to let me know and I will create a distribution list to alert 
 interested parties if the course is offered again. The tuition is $75
which is paid via Paypal and is worth every penny of it and even more.
 Best regards,
 Rob Jayhawk Tabor

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
 Merv Keck
 Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 9:21 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: multi track audio recording in windows?

 I keep hearing how good reaper is. I drug my feet last year at tax 
 time on buying it and now I have to wait till next year LOL! I used to 
 use Adobe Audition 3 until my vision got too low for the not 
 accessible program and I miss having a good multi track recorder.
 However, what is this course you are taking is this a local course or 
 is it long distance meaning online?
 blind5sparrow


 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Tabor
 Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 1:11 AM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: multi track audio recording in windows?

 Hello,

 I am taking an audio fundamentals class through Cisco Academy for the 
 Visually Impaired (CAVI) and was told that Multiquence is not screen 
 reader friendly, so based on that advice I would tend to stick with 
 Audacity or Reaper. I have heard from multiple sources that Reaper 
 does work best if you use the REAAccess plugin. Reaper has also been 
 described by one of my CAVI instructors as ridiculously 
 customizable. By this he means it is very flexible when it comes to 
 keystroke remapping. The other side of the coin of course is being willing
to take the time to do the customizing.

 Best regards,
 Rob Jayhawk Tabor

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
 Alex Stone
 Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 4:00 PM
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: multi track audio recording in windows?

 I had a look at multiquence a few years ago, and at that time it 
 wasn't very accessible, at least with jaws. I don't know what it's like
now though.
 Cheers
 Alex

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
 Howard Traxler
 Sent: 22 October 2012 21:55
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: multi track audio recording in windows?

 Is anyone also using multiquence?  It's produced by Chris who provides 
 GoldWave.  I have a demo copy here but haven't taken the time to 
 figure it out yet.  You can get it from http://www.goldwave.ca

 Howard
 - Original Message -
 From: Rob Tabor rob.ta...@sbcglobal.net
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 11:50 PM
 Subject: RE: multi track audio recording in windows?


 Good evening Hank and list,

 A pretty decent and free multi-track sound editor is audacity which 
 can be downloaded from http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ The program 
 can also be obtained via unintended installation from 
 www.ninite.com/audacity. It does a pretty good job and has seamless 
 looping and is generally effective at noise reduction. Other 
 multi-track editors are Reaper and Sonar, with Sonar being the most 
 expensive. Reaper has a fairly generous trial period and is fully 
 functional during the evaluation phase.

 HTH and best regards,
 Rob Jayhawk Tabor

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
 Hank Smith
 Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 10:20 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: multi track audio recording in windows?

 Hello what are folks using in windows to multi track audio record 
 these days?
 Hank

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RE: multi track audio recording in windows?

2012-10-23 Thread Rob Tabor
Good evening,

The CAVI course offerings are both local at the Association of the Blind of
Western Australia in Perth with a distance learning component complete with
live interactive class presentations and even those lovely timed multiple
choice exams, but not yet in the Audio fundamentals course, at least  as of
yet. I would invite you to visit ciscovision.org and Cucat.org for a full
description of the CAVI course offerings including beginning, intermediate,
and advanced courses for aspiring PC technicians. The Audio fundamentals
course is a first time offering. I invite you or anyone else who is
interested to let me know and I will create a distribution list to alert
interested parties if the course is offered again. The tuition is $75 which
is paid via Paypal and is worth every penny of it and even more.
Best regards,
Rob Jayhawk Tabor

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 9:21 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: multi track audio recording in windows?

I keep hearing how good reaper is. I drug my feet last year at tax time on
buying it and now I have to wait till next year LOL! I used to use Adobe
Audition 3 until my vision got too low for the not accessible program and I
miss having a good multi track recorder.
However, what is this course you are taking is this a local course or is it
long distance meaning online?
blind5sparrow


-Original Message-
From: Rob Tabor
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 1:11 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: multi track audio recording in windows?

Hello,

I am taking an audio fundamentals class through Cisco Academy for the
Visually Impaired (CAVI) and was told that Multiquence is not screen reader
friendly, so based on that advice I would tend to stick with Audacity or
Reaper. I have heard from multiple sources that Reaper does work best if you
use the REAAccess plugin. Reaper has also been described by one of my CAVI
instructors as ridiculously customizable. By this he means it is very
flexible when it comes to keystroke remapping. The other side of the coin of
course is being willing to take the time to do the customizing.

Best regards,
Rob Jayhawk Tabor

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Alex
Stone
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 4:00 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: multi track audio recording in windows?

I had a look at multiquence a few years ago, and at that time it wasn't very
accessible, at least with jaws. I don't know what it's like now though.
Cheers
Alex

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Howard
Traxler
Sent: 22 October 2012 21:55
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: multi track audio recording in windows?

Is anyone also using multiquence?  It's produced by Chris who provides
GoldWave.  I have a demo copy here but haven't taken the time to figure it
out yet.  You can get it from http://www.goldwave.ca

Howard
- Original Message -
From: Rob Tabor rob.ta...@sbcglobal.net
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 11:50 PM
Subject: RE: multi track audio recording in windows?


 Good evening Hank and list,

 A pretty decent and free multi-track sound editor is audacity which 
 can be downloaded from http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ The program 
 can also be obtained via unintended installation from 
 www.ninite.com/audacity. It does a pretty good job and has seamless 
 looping and is generally effective at noise reduction. Other 
 multi-track editors are Reaper and Sonar, with Sonar being the most 
 expensive. Reaper has a fairly generous trial period and is fully 
 functional during the evaluation phase.

 HTH and best regards,
 Rob Jayhawk Tabor

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
 Hank Smith
 Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 10:20 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: multi track audio recording in windows?

 Hello what are folks using in windows to multi track audio record 
 these days?
 Hank

 --
 personal email:
 hanksm...@hanksmith.net
 twitter:
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 http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5
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 Klango:
 hanksmith
 Skype:
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RE: multi track audio recording in windows?

2012-10-22 Thread Rob Tabor
Hello,

I am taking an audio fundamentals class through Cisco Academy for the
Visually Impaired (CAVI) and was told that Multiquence is not screen reader
friendly, so based on that advice I would tend to stick with Audacity or
Reaper. I have heard from multiple sources that Reaper does work best if you
use the REAAccess plugin. Reaper has also been described by one of my CAVI
instructors as ridiculously customizable. By this he means it is very
flexible when it comes to keystroke remapping. The other side of the coin of
course is being willing to take the time to do the customizing.

Best regards,
Rob Jayhawk Tabor

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Alex
Stone
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 4:00 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: multi track audio recording in windows?

I had a look at multiquence a few years ago, and at that time it wasn't very
accessible, at least with jaws. I don't know what it's like now though.
Cheers
Alex

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Howard
Traxler
Sent: 22 October 2012 21:55
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: multi track audio recording in windows?

Is anyone also using multiquence?  It's produced by Chris who provides
GoldWave.  I have a demo copy here but haven't taken the time to figure it
out yet.  You can get it from http://www.goldwave.ca

Howard
- Original Message -
From: Rob Tabor rob.ta...@sbcglobal.net
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 11:50 PM
Subject: RE: multi track audio recording in windows?


 Good evening Hank and list,

 A pretty decent and free multi-track sound editor is audacity which can be
 downloaded from
 http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
 The program can also be obtained via unintended installation from
 www.ninite.com/audacity. It does a pretty good job and has seamless 
 looping
 and is generally effective at noise reduction. Other multi-track editors 
 are
 Reaper and Sonar, with Sonar being the most expensive. Reaper has a fairly
 generous trial period and is fully functional during the evaluation phase.

 HTH and best regards,
 Rob Jayhawk Tabor

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hank
 Smith
 Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 10:20 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: multi track audio recording in windows?

 Hello what are folks using in windows to multi track audio record these
 days?
 Hank

 --
 personal email:
 hanksm...@hanksmith.net
 twitter:
 http://www.twitter.com/hanksmith2011
 facebook:
 http://www.facebook.com/hanksmith5
 zello:
 hanksmith5
 Klango:
 hanksmith
 Skype:
 hank.smith966
 Amateur radio call sign:
 ke7ief
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RE: multi track audio recording in windows?

2012-10-21 Thread Rob Tabor
Good evening Hank and list,

A pretty decent and free multi-track sound editor is audacity which can be
downloaded from 
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
The program can also be obtained via unintended installation from
www.ninite.com/audacity. It does a pretty good job and has seamless looping
and is generally effective at noise reduction. Other multi-track editors are
Reaper and Sonar, with Sonar being the most expensive. Reaper has a fairly
generous trial period and is fully functional during the evaluation phase.

HTH and best regards,
Rob Jayhawk Tabor

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Smith
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 10:20 PM
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Subject: multi track audio recording in windows?

Hello what are folks using in windows to multi track audio record these
days?
Hank

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personal email:
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twitter:
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facebook:
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zello:
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Klango:
hanksmith
Skype:
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RE: JAWS Scripts for Winamp?

2012-10-20 Thread Rob Tabor
Good morning,

Another way to get rid of the Winamp toolbar is to uninstall Winamp then
reinstall it via Ninite, an web-based unintended installer and program
updater. A major advantage of using of Ninite is that it automatically says
no to toolbars and other unwanted components during its installation
process. Also the Ninite installer is placed on the desktop so you can run
it from there when you are advised that a program update is available. Many
other programs are available for installation on Ninite including Adobe
Flash, Adobe Reader, and Audacity. The link to access the Ninite installer
for Winamp is http://www.ninite.com/winamp/
From there you can easily find the link to download the Ninite installer for
Winamp Version 5.63. So have fun using Ninite. Your non-techie friends will
think you are a genious. smile
HTH and best regards,
Rob Jayhawk Tabor

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
Kaufman
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 1:09 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts for Winamp?

Evan:  I can't remember which operating system you're running, so I probably
can't provide the exact info you're looking for here; what I _can_ tell you
is that..yes..the Winamp tool bar can be removed!  In XP, it's a matter of
going to Add/Remove Programs and just arrow down until you come to it!  Now
Windows 7 may have a different way, but since I am not familiar with Seven,
I don't want to lead you down the wrong path!  But I would assume that you
still could remove that darned tool bar!  Best of luck and let us know how
you're making out!  Hopefully there'll be someone who can explain this a lot
better than I can..but am almost sure you can get rid of MR. Tool Bar!
Tom Kaufman
- Original Message -
From: Evan Reese ment...@dslextreme.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts for Winamp?


 Thanks Alex. Well, the problems started during the installation. 
 Firstly, unlike my Window Eyes, JAWS wouldn't tell me which check 
 marks were checked in the library section. Hitting the spacebar where 
 I knew the check marks had to be gave me no response. So I had to take 
 the default settings. Also, unlike Window Eyes, I didn't get any 
 chance to uncheck the Winamp toolbar and the 50 free mp3 files and 
 whatever else is in that final dialogue box. I tried to find them, but 
 couldn't read anything in there. So I think the Winamp toolbar must be 
 running. That may be part of the problem, but I don't know how to 
 uninstall it, or even whether it can be uninstalled without 
 reinstalling Winamp, which would take me back to the initial problem. 
 It doesn't read the bookmarks correctly, meaning that when you arrow 
 down through them, it doesn't just read the titles, but often reads 
 the urls that go with the titles. So something isn't running properly 
 with those scripts. I went into the preferences section and made sure 
 it was on the classic skin, but who knows? The way JAWS reads things 
 in Winamp, or doesn't as the case may be, I don't know for sure if 
 it's running the bento skin, which seems to be the default, or the classic
skin.

 Can I get rid of the Winamp toolbar without reinstalling? If so, that 
 may perhaps help the situation. If not, then I don't know how to 
 install this thing correctly with JAWS 13 so it runs as accessibly as it
can.

 Thanks again.

 Evan
 - Original Message -
 From: Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 7:28 PM
 Subject: RE: JAWS Scripts for Winamp?


 Evan, there are winamp scripts built into jaws 13, but you have to 
 use the traditional skin, at least I think that's what it's called. 
 And Winamp
 6.22 is fine, that's what I use and it works for me.
 Cheers
 Alex

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
 Evan Reese
 Sent: 20 October 2012 00:16
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: JAWS Scripts for Winamp?

 Hey Guys, I'm helping my partner get her Winamp running and 
 accessible. I am not a JAWS user, (I use Window Eyes and the app that 
 goes with it makes Winamp run very accessibly for what I do with it), 
 but Winamp doesn't seem to be so accessible on her Windows 7 JAWS 13 
 system. I installed the latest version of Winamp Pro, version 6.22, 
 which is the same one I'm using on my system. I can't seem to use the 
 control tab to go from the library to the main window and back again, 
 among other problems. What I'd like to know is are there still 
 scripts for Winamp to make it more accessible with JAWS?
 If
 so, how can I get them and how do I install them? Or, are they 
 already built in? I know that JAWS does come with some scripts 
 already set up by FS.
 But
 if the Winamp scripts are built in, how do I make them run. They 
 don't seem to be running now, 

RE: JAWS Scripts for Winamp?

2012-10-20 Thread Rob Tabor
Hi Evan and list.

You are correct in noting Ninite includes only freeware and shareware
versions of programs or it would not be able to do an unintended
installation. Obviously, it won't meet your needs in downloading the
professional version of Winamp but it is certainly a worthwhile resource to
keep in mind for other programs including Adobe Reader and Flash updates.

HTH and best regards,
Rob Jayhawk Tabor

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Evan
Reese
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 12:08 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts for Winamp?

Hi Rob, this sounds really cool. I need to check it out. The only hitch I
see is that you mention Winamp 5.63, which sounds like the free version. I
bought, and installed, the Pro version 5.622 because it will let her rip
mp3s, which the free version will not. If Ninite will let me install the Pro
version then I will absolutely use it. If not, then unfortunately, as cool
as it sounds, I can't use it for installing Winamp.

Thanks again.

Evan

- Original Message -
From: Rob Tabor rob.ta...@sbcglobal.net
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 10:13 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS Scripts for Winamp?


 Good morning,

 Another way to get rid of the Winamp toolbar is to uninstall Winamp then
 reinstall it via Ninite, an web-based unintended installer and program
 updater. A major advantage of using of Ninite is that it automatically 
 says
 no to toolbars and other unwanted components during its installation
 process. Also the Ninite installer is placed on the desktop so you can run
 it from there when you are advised that a program update is available. 
 Many
 other programs are available for installation on Ninite including Adobe
 Flash, Adobe Reader, and Audacity. The link to access the Ninite installer
 for Winamp is http://www.ninite.com/winamp/
 From there you can easily find the link to download the Ninite installer 
 for
 Winamp Version 5.63. So have fun using Ninite. Your non-techie friends 
 will
 think you are a genious. smile
 HTH and best regards,
 Rob Jayhawk Tabor

 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom
 Kaufman
 Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 1:09 AM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts for Winamp?

 Evan:  I can't remember which operating system you're running, so I 
 probably
 can't provide the exact info you're looking for here; what I _can_ tell 
 you
 is that..yes..the Winamp tool bar can be removed!  In XP, it's a matter of
 going to Add/Remove Programs and just arrow down until you come to it! 
 Now
 Windows 7 may have a different way, but since I am not familiar with 
 Seven,
 I don't want to lead you down the wrong path!  But I would assume that you
 still could remove that darned tool bar!  Best of luck and let us know how
 you're making out!  Hopefully there'll be someone who can explain this a 
 lot
 better than I can..but am almost sure you can get rid of MR. Tool Bar!
 Tom Kaufman
 - Original Message -
 From: Evan Reese ment...@dslextreme.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 11:42 PM
 Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts for Winamp?


 Thanks Alex. Well, the problems started during the installation.
 Firstly, unlike my Window Eyes, JAWS wouldn't tell me which check
 marks were checked in the library section. Hitting the spacebar where
 I knew the check marks had to be gave me no response. So I had to take
 the default settings. Also, unlike Window Eyes, I didn't get any
 chance to uncheck the Winamp toolbar and the 50 free mp3 files and
 whatever else is in that final dialogue box. I tried to find them, but
 couldn't read anything in there. So I think the Winamp toolbar must be
 running. That may be part of the problem, but I don't know how to
 uninstall it, or even whether it can be uninstalled without
 reinstalling Winamp, which would take me back to the initial problem.
 It doesn't read the bookmarks correctly, meaning that when you arrow
 down through them, it doesn't just read the titles, but often reads
 the urls that go with the titles. So something isn't running properly
 with those scripts. I went into the preferences section and made sure
 it was on the classic skin, but who knows? The way JAWS reads things
 in Winamp, or doesn't as the case may be, I don't know for sure if
 it's running the bento skin, which seems to be the default, or the 
 classic
 skin.

 Can I get rid of the Winamp toolbar without reinstalling? If so, that
 may perhaps help the situation. If not, then I don't know how to
 install this thing correctly with JAWS 13 so it runs as accessibly as it
 can.

 Thanks again.

 Evan
 - Original Message -
 From: Alex Stone alexstone...@btinternet.com
 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 7:28 PM
 Subject: RE: JAWS

Saving MP3 Files in Freemake

2012-10-17 Thread Rob Tabor
Good evening all,

 

I have just downloaded and installed Freemake and appear to have downloaded
a Youtube video of some Hawaiian music. However, I am unable to find the
presumably converted MP3 file either in my music or downloads folder. The
menus do not appear to be a standard windows pulldown menu and I do not find
a file  save dialogue box that gives me the option of saving it to a folder
on the hard drive. All suggestions and tips appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Best regards,

Rob Jayhawk Tabor

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RE: GoldWave, recording results only in hiss

2012-10-10 Thread Rob Tabor
Hi, Colin.

Thanks for that excellent suggestion on saving GW settings before updating
the program. I would note in passing that I have never lost the GW
configuration file in the four or five updates I have installed. However, I
will start saving the GW configuration before updating in the future out of
the abundance of caution.
Best regards,
Rob Jayhawk Tabor

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Colin
Howard
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 3:44 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: GoldWave, recording results only in hiss

Greetings,

Thanks for the info.

You could, I believe, have saved yourself all the problems, by before
installing the new version, saving your settings, then when the new version
had been installed, importing the old settings file.  This usually works for
me.

Far as I remember, this is achieved by the setup menu item, not usually seen
in the normal GW program, least not on my system, think you need go into Gw
from the start menu, programs method, it is on the GW submenu under setup.
There is a command in the keyboard file but on mine, nothing has been
assigned and if I set up a key, unsure exactly where it would place me.

I might give it a go but save settings first in case things go astray and I
am unable to recover.


Colin Howard, living near Southampton in Southern England.

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RE: Accessibility of playing XM radio over the internet with JAWS13/14

2012-09-30 Thread Rob Tabor
Greetings,

Profanity aside, which has been dealt with by the moderator, I echo the
frustration expressed here with regard not only to the lack of screen reader
friendly interface with the Sirius XM online listening players, but the lack
of concern on the part of its staff and management. For ease of access by
its long-standing loyal customer base. I would invite anyone who is a member
of NFB to participate in drafting a proposed resolution to the 2013 national
convention in Orlando, Florida calling Sirius XM to task and challenging the
company to re-engineer its web-based audio interface to WCAG standards. How
about it folks? Better to light the candle than to curse the darkness, as
the old adage goes.
Best regards,
Rob Jayhawk Tabor

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dave Bahr
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:07 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Accessibility of playing XM radio over the internet with
JAWS13/14

xm is a bunch of bullshit. you might as well go through soutcast or maybe
live 365 if they are still around. the former is free and the latter is as
well if you can put up with their fucking annoying ads every song a la
pandora.

Dave C. Bahr
Facebook: Dave Bahr
Twitter: dcbahr

On 9/26/2012 1:52 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
 What a shame!  They have this 30-day trial period and all; I had 
 thought about it!  But if it's not accessible, what's the point?
 Tom Kaufman
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 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 2:16 PM
 Subject: Re: Accessibility of playing XM radio over the internet with
 JAWS13/14


 Not really.  If you have a mobile device, you will have better luck 
 going that route.  You have to memorize where stuff is on that.  The 
 web based player is not accessible, beyond logging in, and picking 
 one channel. After that, it doesn't work really well.

 - Original Message - From: Dujari, Prateek 
 prateek.duj...@intel.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:46 PM
 Subject: Accessibility of playing XM radio over the internet with
 JAWS13/14


 Hello.

 I'm thinking hard about subscribing to XM radio (not Sirius but XM 
 which have some difference in the stations).  Seems I also have a 
 choice to stream XM radio channels online over the internet using my 
 web browser on my PC.  is the online XM radio streaming accessible 
 with JAWS 13/14 WRT the controls and reviewing/playing diff 
 stations? us Thanks Prateek

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RE: Goldwave settings question

2012-09-24 Thread Rob Tabor
Hello Don and list.

I use Goldwave version 5.67 on a Windows 7 64 bit machine and had no trouble
with reverse continuous audio playback of an MP3 file from end to beginning.
I ran this test immediately before I responded to your querry to ensure I
was giving you accurate information. You should be able to resolve your
issues with reverse playback interruption by typing CTRL+A to assure your
total file is included within your edit start and finish markers. Premature
reverse playback stoppage is usually due to not having the entirety of the
file highlighted. Here's hoping this helps.
Best regards,
Rob Jayhawk Tabor

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 12:42 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Goldwave settings question

I'm running Goldwave 5.67 on a Win 7 64-bit desktop.

In older versions of Gold Wave, if a file was open, the user could hit
F5 and the file would begin to play in reverse completely from the end to
the beginning.  I found this especially useful in situations where the
initial file length exceeds the actual length of the recorded material.  In
5.67, however, when one presses the F5 rewind key, the file rewinds only for
a few seconds and then stops.

Please tell me what if anything I can do to change this behavior so that the
file will play in reverse until I choose to stop it.

Remember, I am not talking about going into the settings to reverse the
track.

Thanks.

Don Roberts

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RE: WavePad not accessible

2012-08-29 Thread Rob Tabor
Good morning all,

I second that motion as I am a pretty devoted Goldwaver too. It is an
ipressively versatile and powerful sound editor with a generally intuitive
user interface and its screenreader accessibility has been consistently good
in this moving target of more powerful and graphics-based OS's, and the JAWS
scripts by Jim Grinsby have kept Goldwave even more screenreader friendly. 

All of that being said, I recently installed Wavepad for the simplicity of
certain functions like recording, which has a single keystrike in contrast
to the combined keystrike needed to start and stop recording a single audio
track in Goldwave. The problem I am currently having with Wave Pad is the
inability to locate the small test audio files I created via Windows
Explorer. I was able after a fashion to change the output directory to the
music folder, but I would like to find the earlier test files and delete
them. When I launch the program and use CTRL+L to get a list of WAAV or mP3
files created in Wavepad, I am unable to delete them. Finally, I also note
that Wavepad does not appear to have fast review and fast forward functions,
so any audio content as well as special effects and changes of some
technical settings will have to be done with a more robust audio editor such
as Total Recorder or Goldwave. Lastly, I also notice that pre-existing audio
files in the music library play at a slower speed and some artifact is also
noticeable. I welcome any guidance from anyone more knowledgeable than I to
set me straight if I am doing anything incorrectly. Thanks in advance.

Best Regards,
Rob Jayhawk Tabor

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 5:43 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: WavePad not accessible

I prefer GoldWave
***
character is found in how you treat people who can't do anything for you.

web page
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From: mbern6...@aol.com
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 12:40 PM
Subject: WavePad not accessible


 Hi everybody,
 I received my brand-new Blue Yeti Microphone in the mail over the 
 weekend from Sweetwater Sound Inc. Its actually smaller than I thought 
 it to be. I imagined it to be a huge complicated looking thing. Well, 
 it is a bit bulky, and it does have a bit of a  heft to it, but its 
 small enough to fit here on my desk without getting in the way. At some 
 point in the near future, I'm going to see about joinning the team of 
 djs at Mushroomfm.com, and this is the mike to which I'll be using on 
 air. So while I have the time, I'd like to make some test recordings 
 with this Mike and play them back, so that I can get a feel as to how 
 my voice will sound coming through both headphones as well as my 
 computer speakers. This way, I can hear what my voice will sound like 
 over the air to the listeners, or at least get an idea.   I did a test 
 recording with Skype's call testing service using the Yeti, and it 
 sounds quite clear from what I can tell through headphones. I also 
 tried to record my voice using WavePad, but I've found that its not as 
 accessible as I thought. Have any of you ever tried using WavePad? I 
 can load an existing file and play it, but for the life of me, I can't 
 figure out how to make recordings. The buttons appear to be 
 inaccessible. For any of you, who have used WavePad before, are there 
 any hotkeys I can use to start and stop a recording? if not, do you 
 know of a sound editor program, that's accessible with a screen reader? 
 I'm using Windows xp home, with Window-eyes. Thanks for any help you 
 can provide me.
 Mike
 Rochester, NY.
 
 
 
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RE: Goldwave Keyboard Reconfiguration

2012-08-29 Thread Rob Tabor
Good evening Collin,

Thanks for suggesting modification of the GW keyboard configuration. I'm
fine with F9 as the default record key but I was hoping to make the pause
record and stop record functions a bit easier by turning them into a single
keystroke instead of a cgrl+ function key. Obviously the GW developers make
abundant use of the function keys which is a major contributing factor in
giving GW such a generally mouse-free user friendly interface. The other
side of the coin is there aren't many function keys left. smile Now if GW
could just capture a stream off the web.

Best regards,
Rob Tabor

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Colin Howard
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 10:15 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: WavePad not accessible

Greetings,

You say two keys for recording and stopping record in GoldWave, well, you
can change the key strokes by altering the keyboard file.  If you wish to
know how to achieve this, write to me and I will explain.


Colin Howard, living near Southampton in Southern England.

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Looking For New Youtube to MP3 Converter

2012-07-13 Thread Rob Tabor
Greetings,

 

Until very recently I was using youtube-mp3.org with very good success until
the owners of the web page stoppd the Youtube to MP3 video conversion
process under a threat of a lawsuit from Google. I have tried other online
converters, but they seem to crash IE9. The Youtube video to audio
converters I have tried without success include listentoyoutube.com, and
videotomp3.com. I am wondering if anyone has discovered a Youtube to audio
converter that is equal or near equal to Youtube-mp3.org.

 

I discovered while researching what was behind this sudden and strange
development I was curious as to why Google is playing waterboy for ASCAP.
However, I have subsequently concluded that Google has its own turf to
protect, and it is the ring tone revenues they are likely receiving from the
Android apps markets. IN any event, I would appreciate any suggestions.

TIA

Rob Jayhawk Tabor

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RE: Anybody Tried Out The New Gold Wave Scripts Yet?

2012-01-07 Thread Rob Tabor
Good evening, all.

Is it necessary to pre-delete the 18 files from the old GW for JFW script
set or with copying the new files from Version 1.61 perform all of the file
replacements during the file copying process?
Tia and best regards,
Rob Tabor

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 5:01 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Anybody Tried Out The New Gold Wave Scripts Yet?

Then open up GoldWave, hit insert-f2 and go down to the Script Manager. It
should say goldWave.jss. Now hit ctrl-s. You should hear compile complete 
or something like that. Close the script manager and GoldWave, re-open
GoldWave again, and it should work this time.


- Original Message -
From: Christopher Wright chri...@bestweb.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: Anybody Tried Out The New Gold Wave Scripts Yet?


 Here's the procedure I recommend, step by step.

 Assuming that you already downloaded the scripts, and that you're using 
 Windows XP:
 1. Go to the location where you saved the zipped archive containing the 
 scripts. The file you're looking for is goldwave5.65jawsscripts1.61.zip.
 2. If you're using the zip/unzip utility built into Windows, press enter 
 on that file.
 3. Select all the files and copy them to the clipboard.
 4. Go to the start menu.
 5. Go to programs.
 6. Go to the submenu for the Jaws version you have installed.
 7. Press enter on explore Jaws.
 8. Press enter on explore my settings.
 9.Paste the files into that folder.


 - Original Message - 
 From: JM Casey crystallo...@ca.inter.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 5:27 PM
 Subject: Re: Anybody Tried Out The New Gold Wave Scripts Yet?


 All right guys...

 So, obviously, the scripts V1.60 do not work with goldwave 5.65. I got 
 rid of those files, downloaded the new 1.61 version, and at first my 
 experience possibly mirrored Kim's; they were definitely not working. 
 However, I forgot to resave/compile the scripts I think, and now that I 
 have done that, they seem to be performing their proper functions. For 
 some reason the programme wants to hang when I hit insert-h, but as of 
 now that's the only problem I'm still having. So, Kim, if you want those 
 scripts to work, load them in the script manager and recompile.



 - 
 From: Christopher Wright chri...@bestweb.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 7:03 PM
 Subject: Re: Anybody Tried Out The New Gold Wave Scripts Yet?


I am a Jaws user. I currently use Jaws 13. As for GoldWave settings, you 
don't need to change a thing.

 You should be able to select audio and copy it. So far, no problems over

 here.

 Is Jaws 11 the only version you have installed?
 - Original Message - 
 From: JM Casey crystallo...@ca.inter.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 6:18 PM
 Subject: Re: Anybody Tried Out The New Gold Wave Scripts Yet?


 Hey Christopher. I posted about this earlier. The reading functions 
 still don't appear to work, and jaws still speaks as though the 
 clipboard were empty/selections were not made. Jaws 11 over 
 here...might have something to do with it, but I think it more likely 
 to be connected with the new GW version. Didn't you say you weren't a 
 jaws user, or am I getting you confused with someone else? lol

 One obvious improvement though is, as I said before, that now the 
 filenames will speak.

 If you're successfully using the reading functions and everything else 
 is working correctly, perhaps there's something we need to set 
 differently in goldwave?


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 From: Christopher Wright chri...@bestweb.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 10:16 AM
 Subject: Re: Anybody Tried Out The New Gold Wave Scripts Yet?


 GoldWave and the new scripts should work. What problems are you guys 
 having?
 - Original Message - 
 From: kim kelly kim...@centurylink.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 12:38 AM
 Subject: Re: Anybody Tried Out The New Gold Wave Scripts Yet?


I think I will do just that.

 Thanks.


 Kim  McNatt-Kelly
 Alternate email:

 kim...@samobile.net

 Skype:

 richies12

 Anyone who wants to get a hold of Richie My Other  half, email him 
 at:

 richandconch...@samobile.net

 Or:
 webpol...@centurylink.net

 We enjoy communicating with anyone who would like to  and who  needs 
 help with computers and blindness related issues.
 Take care and have a super day.

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 Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 3:39 PM
 Subject: Re: Anybody Tried Out

Changing Mic Boost In Windows 7

2011-11-15 Thread Rob Tabor
Hello colleagues,

 

I have tried exploring several options in Windows control panel and Realtech
Audio Manager to discover how to reduce the mic boost for a Logitech H555
mic headset combo. The mic input gain level sounds OK on Skype but I blast
‘em out of kingdom come on Ventrilo and it is suppressing my participation
in my CAVI class. Thanks in advance for any guidance or instructions
offered.

Best regards,

Rob Tabor  Guide Cane Raúl Junior

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RE: Copying Audio CD's

2011-09-16 Thread Rob Tabor
Hi, again Bud.
Thanks for the heads up about CD Burner Xp being compatible with your OS.
Now that I know that I'll give it a go and if it works I'll commend it to my
wife who has been looking for an intuitive CD burner she can use to
reproduce audio books for the AIS she works for.
Best regards,
Rob Tabor  Guide Cane Raúl Junior

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Bud Schwab
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:24 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: RE: Copying Audio CD's

I'm using windows 7 64 bit and cdburnerxp works fine with it.

Bud

At 08:42 PM 9/15/2011, you wrote:
Hello Bud and List.
Although Cd Burner XP sounds very simple efficient, and screen reader 
friendly, I advise anyone whose system runs Vista or Windows 7 to 
research carefully as to whether the program is forward compatible with
these OS's.
Win7 does have a backward compatibility feature, but it is said that 
tool doesn't always find solutions to make the program compatible.

If anyone cares to follow up with this investigation I would be 
interested in hearing the results. I will also post to the list if I am 
able to investigate the compatibility issue.
Best to all,
Rob Tabor  Guide Cane Raúl Junior

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Bud Schwab
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:31 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Copying Audio CD's

Hi,

If you're looking for a simple blind friendly program to make cd copies 
I found a little one that is free and very easy to use.  It's called 
cdburnerxp I don't have it's address but you could just google it and 
find it.  It's very simple and easy.

Bud

At 07:30 PM 9/14/2011, you wrote:
 Kim,
 
 I may have found something in their burning software, but it isn't at 
 all clear if copying a CD is one of the functions.  If Guy knows 
 which piece of software has the capability, I would appreciate it if 
 he would point it out.  in the meantime, I am trying to make certain 
 I don't have something that will do the trick.  ASHAMPOO has a lot of 
 interesting software, though.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Steve Jacobson
 
 On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:59:08 -0700, kim kelly wrote:
 
  All I could find was stuff to do with video and movie and slid show 
  and pictures.
  Not to blind friendly if I say so my self.
 
  Kim McNatt-Kelly
  Email and facebook:
  kim...@cableone.net
 
  Have a wonderful day.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Guy Mallard gme...@yahoo.com
  To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 12:04 PM
  Subject: Re: Copying Audio CD's
 
 
  Hi Steve -
  Ashampoo has a selection choice that should work for you. You can 
  download it free at www.ashampoo.com/en/usd/fdl.
  Guy Mallard
 
  G.M. ELECTRONICS SERVICE
  REPAIR * INSTALLATION * CIRCUIT DESIGN  CONSTRUCTION Computers - 
  Satellite TV - Marine Electronics - Ham Radio Wireless - 
  Communications Custom-Designed By Request - Original Oldies Music 
  CD's Vinyl, Cassette, or 8-Track - To CD
  E-mail: gme...@yahoo.com PH: (904)263-0373 Guy Mallard, Owner
 
  From: Steve Jacobson steve.jacob...@visi.com
  To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
  Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 9:35 AM
  Subject: Copying Audio CD's
 
  First, I'm sorry if this message comes across more than once. Is
  there a way
  to copy an entire audio CD to another audio CD under Windows 7 
  without extracting and reassembling tracks? On my old computer, I 
  generally did it with an old version of Roxio, but I believe there 
  was a way to also do it from Windows explorer, but I can't find 
  anything on my new Windows 7
  computer. If
  not, can anyone recommend reliable but inexpensive alternatives? I 
  do have Sound Forge and CD Architect, but don't see anything that 
  will just create an image and copy it to another CD.
 
  Thanks for any ideas.
 
  Best regards,
 
  Steve Jacobson
 
 
 
 
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RE: Copying Audio CD's

2011-09-15 Thread Rob Tabor
Hello Bud and List.
Although Cd Burner XP sounds very simple efficient, and screen reader
friendly, I advise anyone whose system runs Vista or Windows 7 to research
carefully as to whether the program is forward compatible with these OS's.
Win7 does have a backward compatibility feature, but it is said that tool
doesn't always find solutions to make the program compatible.

If anyone cares to follow up with this investigation I would be interested
in hearing the results. I will also post to the list if I am able to
investigate the compatibility issue.
Best to all,
Rob Tabor  Guide Cane Raúl Junior

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Bud Schwab
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:31 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Copying Audio CD's

Hi,

If you're looking for a simple blind friendly program to make cd copies I
found a little one that is free and very easy to use.  It's called
cdburnerxp I don't have it's address but you could just google it and find
it.  It's very simple and easy.

Bud

At 07:30 PM 9/14/2011, you wrote:
Kim,

I may have found something in their burning software, but it isn't at 
all clear if copying a CD is one of the functions.  If Guy knows which 
piece of software has the capability, I would appreciate it if he would 
point it out.  in the meantime, I am trying to make certain I don't 
have something that will do the trick.  ASHAMPOO has a lot of 
interesting software, though.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:59:08 -0700, kim kelly wrote:

 All I could find was stuff to do with video and movie and slid show 
 and pictures.
 Not to blind friendly if I say so my self.

 Kim McNatt-Kelly
 Email and facebook:
 kim...@cableone.net

 Have a wonderful day.

 - Original Message -
 From: Guy Mallard gme...@yahoo.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 12:04 PM
 Subject: Re: Copying Audio CD's


 Hi Steve -
 Ashampoo has a selection choice that should work for you. You can 
 download it free at www.ashampoo.com/en/usd/fdl.
 Guy Mallard

 G.M. ELECTRONICS SERVICE
 REPAIR * INSTALLATION * CIRCUIT DESIGN  CONSTRUCTION Computers - 
 Satellite TV - Marine Electronics - Ham Radio Wireless - 
 Communications Custom-Designed By Request - Original Oldies Music 
 CD's Vinyl, Cassette, or 8-Track - To CD
 E-mail: gme...@yahoo.com PH: (904)263-0373 Guy Mallard, Owner

 From: Steve Jacobson steve.jacob...@visi.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 9:35 AM
 Subject: Copying Audio CD's

 First, I'm sorry if this message comes across more than once. Is
 there a way
 to copy an entire audio CD to another audio CD under Windows 7 
 without extracting and reassembling tracks? On my old computer, I 
 generally did it with an old version of Roxio, but I believe there 
 was a way to also do it from Windows explorer, but I can't find 
 anything on my new Windows 7
 computer. If
 not, can anyone recommend reliable but inexpensive alternatives? I do 
 have Sound Forge and CD Architect, but don't see anything that will 
 just create an image and copy it to another CD.

 Thanks for any ideas.

 Best regards,

 Steve Jacobson




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RE: djc death notice

2011-09-14 Thread Rob Tabor
Hello list.
Are there any archives of his shows? I am always in studying announcing and 
audio showmanship styles but I am not familiar with this gentleman.
TIA and best regards,
Rob Tabor  Guide Cane Raúl Junior

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On 
Behalf Of kim kelly
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:29 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: djc death notice

That is so true, So many guys are so stubbrin.

Kim McNatt-Kelly
Email and facebook:
kim...@cableone.net

Have a wonderful day.

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From: chris ramsay cram...@cox.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: djc death notice


kim knew him for ten years great shows he did on both 
 acb radio and the legend and on other stations as well.  the guy was 
 always willing to help people and very well known around the net.  someone 
 I always looked up to.  It’s a shame he had to die in this way which 
 arguably would have been preventable had he gone to the hospital when he 
 first felt the symptoms.  May he rest in peace.

 Chris Ramsay

 -Original Message- 
 From: kim kelly
 Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:16 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: djc death notice

 Thanks Chris, I never listened to his show, but I hate to hear of anyone
 passing sudenally.

 Kim McNatt-Kelly
 Email and facebook:
 kim...@cableone.net

 Have a wonderful day.

 - Original Message - 
 From: chris ramsay cram...@cox.net
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 7:32 PM
 Subject: Re: djc death notice


he died of a massive stroke as I understand it. was not 
 feeling well when he went to bed passed in the middle of the night after 
 his wife heard a noise followed by don telling julie he loved her.

 Chris Ramsay

 -Original Message- 
 From: kim kelly
 Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:12 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: djc death notice

 He was fairly young wasn't he?
 What happened, does anyone know?

 Kim McNatt-Kelly
 Email and facebook:
 kim...@cableone.net

 Have a wonderful day.

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 From: Tom t...@pc-audio.org
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:45 PM
 Subject: Re: djc death notice


 Think he was fifty-nine.

 ** Message From: angie loves alex **
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RE: Removing The Vocals From A song Using Gold Wave

2011-08-18 Thread Rob Tabor
Good evening all.

I tend to agree you will are unlikely to succeed in removing or separating
vocals from instrumentals using Goldwave as this function will require a
multi-track sound editor such as Sonar to name only one.
HTH
Rob Tabor

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:42 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Removing The Vocals From A song Using Gold Wave

Hi!
You can't really remove vocals from a song with goldwave.
You can just reduce them but the music will not be in stereo if you try to
do that.
So i wont recomend doing it.
/A

Michael Amaro skrev 2011-08-18 14:21:
 Hello Listers,
 If some one has successfully Removed the vocals from a song using gold
wave,can they please give a step by step on how to do this?  I am using
jaws 12 and XP pro.
 Thanks
 Michael
 Windows Live ID:
 mikeam...@earthlink.net
 Skype ID:
 mikeameli
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 mikeam...@earthlink.net
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JAWS Scripts For Goldwave

2011-05-14 Thread Rob Tabor
Dearr colleagues,

 

I have recently acquired a very impressive Asus laptop PC running Windows 7
on a 64-bit microprocessor and wasted little time in installing Goldwave
which I had been using on my Dell Dimension 2400 desktop that I suspect I
will be letting go of as soon as I have completed all transitional
processes. My question pertains to where I need to install the JAWS script
files ffor Goldwave by Jim Grimsby. Your guidance is appreciated and thanks
in advance.

Rob “Jayhawker” Tabor and White Cane Ra úl Junior

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RE: JAWS Scripts For Goldwave

2011-05-14 Thread Rob Tabor
Hi, Casey and list.

I'm sure I don't have the newest model of Asus on the retail market as I
bought it second hand from a PC technician. I figured that following the
path of the techies as to what equipment they buy for their own uses is not
a bad way to go. Mhy key system specifications are as follows:

System Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer Inc.
System ModelU52F
System Type x64-based PC
Processor   Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU   M 350  @ 2.27GHz, 2266 Mhz, 2
Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)

As for battery life, I generally plug into the AC whenever I can as the
sound card and Eloquence text to speech drivers tend to pull a lot of
battery power, so I'm not the best person to answer that question.
HTH
Rob Jayhawker Tabor  White Cane Ra úl Junior
-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Casey
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 11:54 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: JAWS Scripts For Goldwave

Hi Rob can you pass along more information on this nice lab top you got.
Like what the model of it is and what is the battery live like and so on.

Casey

On 5/14/2011 11:46 PM, Rob Tabor wrote:
 Dearr colleagues,



 I have recently acquired a very impressive Asus laptop PC running 
 Windows 7 on a 64-bit microprocessor and wasted little time in 
 installing Goldwave which I had been using on my Dell Dimension 2400 
 desktop that I suspect I will be letting go of as soon as I have 
 completed all transitional processes. My question pertains to where I 
 need to install the JAWS script files ffor Goldwave by Jim Grimsby. 
 Your guidance is appreciated and thanks in advance.

 Rob “Jayhawker” Tabor and White Cane Ra úl Junior

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Re: for rob, the blind cool tech link for zoom h1 review

2011-03-21 Thread Rob Tabor

Hi, Julie and list.

I have just finished listening to Neal Ewers podcast on the Zoom H1 and am 
inclined to agree with his conclusion that for $99 it is a very good value 
for what you get. FYI, Ewers confirmed the suspicion that it is not possible 
to pause a recording without ending the audio file. This is an 
inconvenience, but as both Dane and I have mentioned, this is nothing a 
sound editor can't take care of to remove unwanted audio.


My only question at this point is whether the user manual is in an 
accessible format. Thanks in advance.

Best regards,
Rob Tabor and White Cane Raúl Junior
- Original Message - 
From: JULIE RODAWAY guidingp...@blueyonder.co.uk

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 12:05 PM
Subject: for rob, the blind cool tech link for zoom h1 review



http://media.libsyn.com/media/bct/bct1502ZoomH1RecorderReview.mp3
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Re: for rob, the blind cool tech link for zoom h1 review

2011-03-21 Thread Rob Tabor

Hello, Julie, Dane and list.

Julie, thanks for the docs you sent me on the Zoom H1. I believe they will 
be helpful in helping me to get started using it once it is in my 
possession. Thanks to Dane for the info on the techno-chat list.

Best regards,
Rob Tabor and Guide Cane Raúl Junior
- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 5:04 AM
Subject: Re: for rob, the blind cool tech link for zoom h1 review


For additional Zoom H! information and tips, people may wish to subscribe to 
the techno-chat list as there are quite a few Zoom H1 users on there and the 
recorder is discussed frequently, I'm one of those people usually involved 
in the discussion smile.


For more information and to subscribe go to 
http://www.tft-bbs.co.uk/Index.html



On 21/03/2011, at 8:58 PM, JULIE RODAWAY wrote:


Hi Rob

I don't know about that, but somebody kindly helped me by sending 
instructions re layout etc.

I will forward you the email in the hope it will assist you.


- Original Message - From:  Rob Tabor rob.ta...@sbcglobal.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 6:13 AM
Subject: Re: for rob, the blind cool tech link for zoom h1 review


Hi, Julie and list.

I have just finished listening to Neal Ewers podcast on the Zoom H1 and am
inclined to agree with his conclusion that for $99 it is a very good value
for what you get. FYI, Ewers confirmed the suspicion that it is not 
possible

to pause a recording without ending the audio file. This is an
inconvenience, but as both Dane and I have mentioned, this is nothing a
sound editor can't take care of to remove unwanted audio.

My only question at this point is whether the user manual is in an
accessible format. Thanks in advance.
Best regards,
Rob Tabor and White Cane Raúl Junior
- Original Message - From: JULIE RODAWAY 
guidingp...@blueyonder.co.uk

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 12:05 PM
Subject: for rob, the blind cool tech link for zoom h1 review



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Re: Question re Zoom Series Digital Recorders

2011-03-19 Thread Rob Tabor
Wow! If H1 is the latest there must be a dyslexic in corporate product 
design or marketing lol Does this mean H4 is the earliest lol again

Rob Tabor  Guide Cane Raúl Junior
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From: tim cumings thcumi...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 4:58 AM
Subject: Re: Question re Zoom Series Digital Recorders


actually the h 1 is the latest model. On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 23:55:48 -0500, 
Rob Tabor

wrote:



Hello colleagues,

I am very seriously considering one of the Zoom digital recorders and have
heard many positive things particularly about the Zoom H1. Curiously, there
seems to be a consensus on discussion lists that the H1 model is preferred 
even

over later models including the Zoom H4. Are my perceptions off the
reservation, or are they valid? If they are legitimate why does the H1 seem 
to
be preferred over later models of the Zoom-H series? Thanks in advance for 
any

guidance you can offer.
Best regards,
Rob Tabor  Guide Cane Ranior
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Re: Question re Zoom Series Digital Recorders

2011-03-19 Thread Rob Tabor

Hello, Dane.

Thanks for your prompt and thorough response to my inquiry. The H1's ability 
to function without menus, the efficiency of its battery lifeand usage, and 
minimal threshold noise in recording do make a strong case for the H1 as 
being heads above other models in the series. I have just one remaining 
question. Whom do you commend as the best vendor to purchase the recorder 
from?

TIA
Rob Tabor and Guide Cane Raúl Junior
- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 12:52 AM
Subject: Re: Question re Zoom Series Digital Recorders


Only my opinion but the H1 is preferred by me over the Zoom H2 and H4 for 
convenience!


For example, I press one button and the H1 starts recording.

The H1 has longer battery life than the H2 and only takes 1 battery instead 
of 2 as the H2 does thus it costs less to run on battery.


Now here's an interesting point to think about, I bought a H1 as a gift for 
someone a few weeks ago and I noticed that the H2 was cheaper? As this 
person was sighted I did consider getting the H2 though I'm told by people 
in the know that the H1 has some advantages over the H2 which include less 
noise when recording plus a lack of a menu system.


The H1 does exactly what it says it does, records and records damn well, if 
you can operate a cassette recorder then you can easily operate a H1.



On 19/03/2011, at 3:55 PM, Rob Tabor wrote:


Hello colleagues,

I am very seriously considering one of the Zoom digital recorders and have 
heard many positive things particularly about the Zoom H1. Curiously, 
there seems to be a consensus on discussion lists that the H1 model is 
preferred even over later models including the Zoom H4. Are my perceptions 
off the reservation, or are they valid? If they are legitimate why does 
the H1 seem to be preferred over later models of the Zoom-H series? Thanks 
in advance for any guidance you can offer.

Best regards,
Rob Tabor  Guide Cane Raúl Junior
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Re: Question re Zoom Series Digital Recorders

2011-03-19 Thread Rob Tabor

Hi, Julie.

Thanks for the tip and the link to the podcast on BTC, which is a very 
diverse and informative web site to which I hope to become a contributor in 
the not very distant future which is one thing I have in mind in wanting to 
invest in a high quality but economically priced recorder and there appears 
to be a very strong consensus that H1 meets those criteria. I am surprised 
if there is no pause function, in which case the 2 options are either to 
stop the recording altogether and create multiple audio files to record the 
same session or event, or, in the alternative, let the recording run and 
remove unwanted audio clips with Goldwave after migrating the audio files to 
the PC. BTW, I have heard the Zoom H1 records in WAV format. Is this true? 
It seems WAV is easier to manipulate and reprocess because it is a lossless 
format. This would be advantageous as I can always convert the files to MP3 
with GW. Thanks to Julie and all for  your very informative guidance.


Best regards,
Rob Tabor  Guide Cane Raúl Junior
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: Question re Zoom Series Digital Recorders



Hi Rob
Blind cool tech has a review of the zoom H1. It's a good review in that it 
will give you a good idea of the capabilities of the recorder.  I think 
the only drawback is that there is no pause ability during a recording.  I 
recently used a friend'sH1 and can tell you that the recording quality is 
superb.

Hope this helps.
Best wishes
Julie




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Question re Zoom Series Digital Recorders

2011-03-18 Thread Rob Tabor
Hello colleagues,

I am very seriously considering one of the Zoom digital recorders and have 
heard many positive things particularly about the Zoom H1. Curiously, there 
seems to be a consensus on discussion lists that the H1 model is preferred even 
over later models including the Zoom H4. Are my perceptions off the 
reservation, or are they valid? If they are legitimate why does the H1 seem to 
be preferred over later models of the Zoom-H series? Thanks in advance for any 
guidance you can offer.
Best regards,
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Re: Wind noise question

2010-11-05 Thread Rob Tabor

Hi, Dave and list.
What you would need to do in Goldwave is to perform its noise reducing 
feature which is accomplished in the following steps.
1. Use your start and finish markers to capture a half second of wind noise 
with no other sound and paste to clipboard with standard windows commands.

2. Goto Effects from the main menu which you can access with alt+C.
3. Type F for filter.
4. Down arrow or type R to select Noise Reduction and hit Enter.
5. in the noise reduction dialogue box check the clipboard noise print.
6. Click OK.
Hope this helps.
Best regards,
Rob Tabor

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To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 3:19 PM
Subject: Wind noise question


Ok, I admit to being kind of disheartened at my apparent inability to record
decently in hostile environments.

The other week I was outdoors on boats and para-sailing with Olympus DM520
happily in hand.  Frankly the resulting recordings sound awful because of
the wind noise.  Is there anything I can do with Goldwave to reduce this
without killing the rest of the recording?  Is wind low or mid-range?  I
shouldn't be kicking myself on my birthday but I am; I expect better of me.

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On Behalf Of Gary Wood
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 11:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: A tip to overcome one of the annoying problems with the Zoom H1

Thanks!
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From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 3:16 AM
Subject: Re: A tip to overcome one of the annoying problems with the Zoom H1


I've not experimented much with MP3 files though logic would dictate that
the rate of writing would be smaller, the way I look at things regarding the

Zoom H1 is that I need not bother with MP3, after all! I have a computer
which probably does a far better job than the Zoom H1 does at MP3 encoding
smile.


On 03/11/2010, at 6:21 PM, Gary Wood wrote:


Dane, you mentioned wav files.  How about whilst using MP3's, and the
speed of those.
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Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 11:13 AM
Subject: RE: A tip to overcome one of the annoying problems with the Zoom
H1



Dane

There are many of these weird things I use the induction loop coils in a
hearing aid for.

I can hear  the hard disk of my iriver hard drive booting up for example.
And my cell phone to know if it's starting up or not.

If a normal hearing person can get hold of a small amplifier with an
induction  loop built in,  you will be able to check all kinds of
interesting things.

Andre



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Sent: 02 November 2010 04:37 AM
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Subject: A tip to overcome one of the annoying problems with the Zoom H1

Hi!

Now this tip isn't going to be for everyone as not everyone wears hearing
instruments which can be used with induction loops but if you do? Well
here's a handy way to use your instruments to great effect when sorting
out
one of the very few functions of the Zoom H1 which isn't accessible.

I'm talking about the Bit and Sample rate of the file you're recording,
this
is changed in Standby mode by using the fast forward and rewind
buttons,
rewind takes you back through the cycle whilst fast forward takes you
forward through the cycle of bit and sample rates.

When recording using Wave Broadcast format you cycle through 44.1KHZ 16
Bit,
48KHZ 24 bit and so on right the way up to 96KHZ 24 and back to 44.1KHZ
16
bit so how to tell where you are.

Well turn your instruments to pick up induction loops and put the
recorder
near them.  Now start recording, you'll be able to hear the recorder as
it
writes to the SD card and the slower the rate of writing then the small
the
sample size, 44.1KHZ 16 bit has the Zoom H1 writing to the SD card about
every half second whilst 96KHZ 24 bit has the H1 writing to the SD card
every sixth of a second or so.

Just thought others may find this helpful as I do, still haven't worked
out
a way to set the date and time for date/time stamping of recordings but I
have to admit to not trying too hard, after all! one can change all that
when the files are copied from the H1 to your computer.



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Re: Noise Reduction in Goldwave, I'm probably stating the very obvious

2010-08-13 Thread Rob Tabor
Thanks Dane for those GW noise reduction steps. It sounds very logical and 
would appear to work. I'll let you know how it goes.

Best regards,
Rob Tabor
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Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: Noise Reduction in Goldwave, I'm probably stating the very 
obvious



Firstly find a portion of hum which is on its own in the presentation, 
this only need be half a second long.  Next copy that portion to the 
clipboard.  Then select the area of audio you wish noise reduction to 
occur on.


Then go into the Noise reduction filter and select the preset Envelope 
from Clipboard, press preview to see how the result will sound and adjust 
settings if and where appropriate, if satisfied then press the okay button 
and the effect will be applied.



On 13/08/2010, at 2:47 PM, Rob Tabor wrote:


Hi, David and list.

I have a recording of a presentation and want to get rid of a high piched 
hum, which disappears after the woman presenter switched to a wireless 
mic. What setting in GW noise reduction would you advise for reducing the 
hum to a nearly inaudible level for the first part of the presentation. 
Thanks in advance.


Best regards,
Rob Tabor
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: Noise Reduction in Goldwave, I'm probably stating the very 
obvious



I have been using Goldwave, Sound Forge and Studio Recorder for several 
years.  With a little experimenting you can actually get better noise 
reduction with Goldwave with less work and less time spent than with 
Sound Forge.




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Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: Noise Reduction in Goldwave, I'm probably stating the very 
obvious




Good evening listmembers.

I quite agree with Dane in my experience with Goldwave which I think 
delivers excellent value for your buy. The only feature missing 
compared to more high powered sound recording/editing packages such as 
studio Recorder is audio cuing during the edit marking operation. Happy 
recording and editing.

Best regards
Rob Tabor
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grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 9:51 PM
Subject: Noise Reduction in Goldwave, I'm probably stating the very 
obvious




Hi folks!

Its been a while since I've played with Goldwave as I prefer to use 
Amadeus Pro on the Mac but it doesn't hurt to have fingers in the 
Windows pie smile.  Anyway to cut a long story short I was given a 
job where noise reduction in parts was required as part of the audio 
editing, I can handle this stuff quite easily with Amadeus Pro but as 
I'd never given the noise reduction function in Goldwave a go before I 
thought that the ideal opportunity was presenting itself.


To be frank I was amazed at the quality of the result I got for a 
first try and I'm prepared to stand by the claim I'm about to make and 
that is the Noise reduction functions of Goldwave rival those which 
are part of more expensive products such as Sound Forge.  Furthermore, 
the sections in the manual describing how the noise reduction system 
in Goldwave works are incredibly well written without boring anyone to 
sleep so all one has to do if they want to try the noise reduction 
function is to read for a minute or so and the have the basic 
knowledge required to get started.


So what's Goldwave worth these days, $59.00 or thereabouts? Damn good 
value for money and I'd almost be tempted to say its a Giveaway! 
when one also considers its many built-in powerful functions and the 
fact that the author has gone out of his way to make this product 
accessible.



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Re: audio queueing was Re: Noise Reduction in Goldwave, I'm probably stating the very obvious

2010-08-13 Thread Rob Tabor
Very interesting! This new scrubbing function using the J K and L keys must 
be a newly added feature to GW version 5.57. I don't remember this in 
previous versions. If this is so, Goldwave keeps on getting better. When you 
add the offer of a lifetime license for about $50 this is an almost 
unbeatable bang for the buck. So hang on to those license keys!!

Best regards,
Rob Tabor
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: audio queueing was Re: Noise Reduction in Goldwave,I'm probably 
stating the very obvious



Yep, just said exactly what I did earlier on today smile, other shortcut 
key commands exist allowing you to hear audio round your markers and to 
nudge the markers either way in your audio file so if you're looking at 
things from an audio perspective then you have Total Audio control and 
feedback when editing which I should think is exactly what a blind person 
wants and Goldwave provides.


Having said all that however, Sound Forge does offer some nice audio 
editing feedback, scrub mode isn't nearly as good as that found in 
Goldwave but all the cursor movement commands can be used whilst the file 
is playing and this can't be done it seems in Goldwave but no matter, if 
one got into a discussion or argument about this then one would be 
incredibly trivial.



On 13/08/2010, at 9:54 PM, Jim Noseworthy wrote:


Hello:

The following is an extract taken from the GoldWave manual:

J, K, L Rewinds, plays, and fast forwards respectively. Playback always 
starts at the cursor's position.
Shift+J, Shift+K, Shift+L Makes the playback speed slower, normal, and 
faster respectively.


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Re: Noise Reduction in Goldwave, I'm probably stating the very obvious

2010-08-13 Thread Rob Tabor
Amen to that! Nice work, Dane! I don't think even the GW manual explains 
that well as to how to use noise reduction.

Best regards
Rob Tabor
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Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Noise Reduction in Goldwave, I'm probably stating the very 
obvious



I applaud Dane for sharing his expertise on how to make the noise reduction 
in goldwave work. he has done more than a lot of so called goldwave experts 
who never did send me a sample of there work like I requested some time 
ago.
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Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: Noise Reduction in Goldwave, I'm probably stating the very 
obvious



This is interesting!  Because all this time, I thought that Soundforge 
was supposed to have the best noise reduction out there, but I guess I'm 
wrong. I have Soundforge, but I don't have Goldwave yet.
-- Currently in Lansing Michigan , Wind: Okay, who stopped the payment 
on my reality check? Created by Weather Signature v1.32 . 
http://www.weathersig.com
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: Noise Reduction in Goldwave, I'm probably stating the very 
obvious



I have been using Goldwave, Sound Forge and Studio Recorder for several 
years.  With a little experimenting you can actually get better noise 
reduction with Goldwave with less work and less time spent than with 
Sound Forge.




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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: Noise Reduction in Goldwave, I'm probably stating the very 
obvious




Good evening listmembers.

I quite agree with Dane in my experience with Goldwave which I think 
delivers excellent value for your buy. The only feature missing 
compared to more high powered sound recording/editing packages such as 
studio Recorder is audio cuing during the edit marking operation. Happy 
recording and editing.

Best regards
Rob Tabor
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From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 9:51 PM
Subject: Noise Reduction in Goldwave, I'm probably stating the very 
obvious




Hi folks!

Its been a while since I've played with Goldwave as I prefer to use 
Amadeus Pro on the Mac but it doesn't hurt to have fingers in the 
Windows pie smile.  Anyway to cut a long story short I was given a 
job where noise reduction in parts was required as part of the audio 
editing, I can handle this stuff quite easily with Amadeus Pro but as 
I'd never given the noise reduction function in Goldwave a go before I 
thought that the ideal opportunity was presenting itself.


To be frank I was amazed at the quality of the result I got for a 
first try and I'm prepared to stand by the claim I'm about to make and 
that is the Noise reduction functions of Goldwave rival those which 
are part of more expensive products such as Sound Forge.  Furthermore, 
the sections in the manual describing how the noise reduction system 
in Goldwave works are incredibly well written without boring anyone to 
sleep so all one has to do if they want to try the noise reduction 
function is to read for a minute or so and the have the basic 
knowledge required to get started.


So what's Goldwave worth these days, $59.00 or thereabouts? Damn good 
value for money and I'd almost be tempted to say its a Giveaway! 
when one also considers its many built-in powerful functions and the 
fact that the author has gone out of his way to make this product 
accessible.



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Re: goldwave classes

2010-08-13 Thread Rob Tabor

Hi, Richard. Yes I would be very interested. Thanks in advance.
Rob Tabor
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 7:32 PM
Subject: goldwave classes


I have some classes that are about a year old that go into all aspects of 
goldwave that start button did and does every year.  they're slightly out 
of date, but still very useable.  Would anyone be intersted in me uploading 
them?  there are 3 levels, beginner, medium, and advanced.


They start out kinda slow, but he goes though a lot of what this editer 
can do, and shows off some pretty kool 3rd party plugins.


I'd just toss them up, but I no longer have a beautiful 2 meg upstream, 
and have to share this connection, so don't upload things unless there's 
interest.


let me know if you all would be interested in this.




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Re: audio queueing was Re: Noise Reduction in Goldwave, I'm probably stating the very obvious

2010-08-12 Thread Rob Tabor

Good evening, Rick and list.

A sound editor with audio cuing means that you can hear the sound as it is 
being selected for some type of manipulation or reprocessing, e.g., marking 
an audio clip for deletion or to add a slight echo or reverb. It is 
essentially being able to listen in slow rewind or fast forward mode as you 
move start and finish markers, thus taking the guesswork out of making very 
minor adjustments in setting markers. Let me know if this doesn't clarify.

Best regards,
Rob Tabor
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:41 PM
Subject: audio queueing was Re: Noise Reduction in Goldwave,I'm probably 
stating the very obvious




Hi,

What exactly is audio queueing that you're refering to?

cheers,
Rick
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Noise Reduction in Goldwave, I'm probably stating the very 
obvious




Good evening listmembers.

I quite agree with Dane in my experience with Goldwave which I think 
delivers excellent value for your buy. The only feature missing compared 
to more high powered sound recording/editing packages such as studio 
Recorder is audio cuing during the edit marking operation. Happy 
recording and editing.

Best regards
Rob Tabor
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From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 9:51 PM
Subject: Noise Reduction in Goldwave, I'm probably stating the very 
obvious




Hi folks!

Its been a while since I've played with Goldwave as I prefer to use 
Amadeus Pro on the Mac but it doesn't hurt to have fingers in the 
Windows pie smile.  Anyway to cut a long story short I was given a job 
where noise reduction in parts was required as part of the audio 
editing, I can handle this stuff quite easily with Amadeus Pro but as 
I'd never given the noise reduction function in Goldwave a go before I 
thought that the ideal opportunity was presenting itself.


To be frank I was amazed at the quality of the result I got for a first 
try and I'm prepared to stand by the claim I'm about to make and that is 
the Noise reduction functions of Goldwave rival those which are part of 
more expensive products such as Sound Forge.  Furthermore, the sections 
in the manual describing how the noise reduction system in Goldwave 
works are incredibly well written without boring anyone to sleep so all 
one has to do if they want to try the noise reduction function is to 
read for a minute or so and the have the basic knowledge required to get 
started.


So what's Goldwave worth these days, $59.00 or thereabouts? Damn good 
value for money and I'd almost be tempted to say its a Giveaway! when 
one also considers its many built-in powerful functions and the fact 
that the author has gone out of his way to make this product accessible.



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Re: audio queueing was Re: Noise Reduction in Goldwave, I'm probably stating the very obvious

2010-08-12 Thread Rob Tabor

Hi, Richard and list.

We are talking about somewhat different functions here. GW and other audio 
packages let you set rewind and fast forward speeds, but what I refer to is 
the ability to hear audible feedback as you set markers. However, the 
drawback here is pretty minor as it is easy to confirm a selected audio clip 
which is done by typing F3 if you don't change the factory default key for 
playback 2. I refer to this as sound cuing and another gentleman called it 
scrubbing. In essence, this means yyou are able to hear the audio as you 
adjust start and/or finish markers to reprocess an audio clip. Hope this 
helps.

best regards
Rob Tabor
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: audio queueing was Re: Noise Reduction in Goldwave,I'm probably 
stating the very obvious




Hi,

well, in gw, one can listen to the selection and set how fast or how slow 
the rewind and fastforward plays, so one could half or quarter the speed 
on one and speed up the other if one wished.  so, as i understand what 
you're saying, gw does have this ability.



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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: audio queueing was Re: Noise Reduction in Goldwave,I'm 
probably stating the very obvious




Good evening, Rick and list.

A sound editor with audio cuing means that you can hear the sound as it 
is being selected for some type of manipulation or reprocessing, e.g., 
marking an audio clip for deletion or to add a slight echo or reverb. It 
is essentially being able to listen in slow rewind or fast forward mode 
as you move start and finish markers, thus taking the guesswork out of 
making very minor adjustments in setting markers. Let me know if this 
doesn't clarify.

Best regards,
Rob Tabor
- Original Message - 
From: richard claypool bellevue@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:41 PM
Subject: audio queueing was Re: Noise Reduction in Goldwave,I'm probably 
stating the very obvious




Hi,

What exactly is audio queueing that you're refering to?

cheers,
Rick
msn
bellevue@gmail.com
skype
lord_of_beer
last fm
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From:  Rob Tabor rob.ta...@sbcglobal.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: Noise Reduction in Goldwave, I'm probably stating the very 
obvious




Good evening listmembers.

I quite agree with Dane in my experience with Goldwave which I think 
delivers excellent value for your buy. The only feature missing 
compared to more high powered sound recording/editing packages such as 
studio Recorder is audio cuing during the edit marking operation. Happy 
recording and editing.

Best regards
Rob Tabor
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From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 9:51 PM
Subject: Noise Reduction in Goldwave, I'm probably stating the very 
obvious




Hi folks!

Its been a while since I've played with Goldwave as I prefer to use 
Amadeus Pro on the Mac but it doesn't hurt to have fingers in the 
Windows pie smile.  Anyway to cut a long story short I was given a 
job where noise reduction in parts was required as part of the audio 
editing, I can handle this stuff quite easily with Amadeus Pro but as 
I'd never given the noise reduction function in Goldwave a go before I 
thought that the ideal opportunity was presenting itself.


To be frank I was amazed at the quality of the result I got for a 
first try and I'm prepared to stand by the claim I'm about to make and 
that is the Noise reduction functions of Goldwave rival those which 
are part of more expensive products such as Sound Forge.  Furthermore, 
the sections in the manual describing how the noise reduction system 
in Goldwave works are incredibly well written without boring anyone to 
sleep so all one has to do if they want to try the noise reduction 
function is to read for a minute or so and the have the basic 
knowledge required to get started.


So what's Goldwave worth these days, $59.00 or thereabouts? Damn good 
value for money and I'd almost be tempted to say its a Giveaway! 
when one also considers its many built-in powerful functions and the 
fact that the author has gone out of his way to make this product 
accessible.



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Re: Noise Reduction in Goldwave, I'm probably stating the very obvious

2010-08-12 Thread Rob Tabor

Hi, David and list.

I have a recording of a presentation and want to get rid of a high piched 
hum, which disappears after the woman presenter switched to a wireless mic. 
What setting in GW noise reduction would you advise for reducing the hum to 
a nearly inaudible level for the first part of the presentation. Thanks in 
advance.


Best regards,
Rob Tabor
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: Noise Reduction in Goldwave, I'm probably stating the very 
obvious



I have been using Goldwave, Sound Forge and Studio Recorder for several 
years.  With a little experimenting you can actually get better noise 
reduction with Goldwave with less work and less time spent than with Sound 
Forge.




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Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: Noise Reduction in Goldwave, I'm probably stating the very 
obvious




Good evening listmembers.

I quite agree with Dane in my experience with Goldwave which I think 
delivers excellent value for your buy. The only feature missing compared 
to more high powered sound recording/editing packages such as studio 
Recorder is audio cuing during the edit marking operation. Happy 
recording and editing.

Best regards
Rob Tabor
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To: PC Audio Discussion List Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 9:51 PM
Subject: Noise Reduction in Goldwave, I'm probably stating the very 
obvious




Hi folks!

Its been a while since I've played with Goldwave as I prefer to use 
Amadeus Pro on the Mac but it doesn't hurt to have fingers in the 
Windows pie smile.  Anyway to cut a long story short I was given a job 
where noise reduction in parts was required as part of the audio 
editing, I can handle this stuff quite easily with Amadeus Pro but as 
I'd never given the noise reduction function in Goldwave a go before I 
thought that the ideal opportunity was presenting itself.


To be frank I was amazed at the quality of the result I got for a first 
try and I'm prepared to stand by the claim I'm about to make and that is 
the Noise reduction functions of Goldwave rival those which are part of 
more expensive products such as Sound Forge.  Furthermore, the sections 
in the manual describing how the noise reduction system in Goldwave 
works are incredibly well written without boring anyone to sleep so all 
one has to do if they want to try the noise reduction function is to 
read for a minute or so and the have the basic knowledge required to get 
started.


So what's Goldwave worth these days, $59.00 or thereabouts? Damn good 
value for money and I'd almost be tempted to say its a Giveaway! when 
one also considers its many built-in powerful functions and the fact 
that the author has gone out of his way to make this product accessible.



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Re: Noise Reduction in Goldwave, I'm probably stating the very obvious

2010-08-11 Thread Rob Tabor

Good evening listmembers.

I quite agree with Dane in my experience with Goldwave which I think 
delivers excellent value for your buy. The only feature missing compared to 
more high powered sound recording/editing packages such as studio Recorder 
is audio cuing during the edit marking operation. Happy recording and 
editing.

Best regards
Rob Tabor
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To: PC Audio Discussion List Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 9:51 PM
Subject: Noise Reduction in Goldwave, I'm probably stating the very obvious



Hi folks!

Its been a while since I've played with Goldwave as I prefer to use 
Amadeus Pro on the Mac but it doesn't hurt to have fingers in the Windows 
pie smile.  Anyway to cut a long story short I was given a job where 
noise reduction in parts was required as part of the audio editing, I can 
handle this stuff quite easily with Amadeus Pro but as I'd never given the 
noise reduction function in Goldwave a go before I thought that the ideal 
opportunity was presenting itself.


To be frank I was amazed at the quality of the result I got for a first 
try and I'm prepared to stand by the claim I'm about to make and that is 
the Noise reduction functions of Goldwave rival those which are part of 
more expensive products such as Sound Forge.  Furthermore, the sections in 
the manual describing how the noise reduction system in Goldwave works are 
incredibly well written without boring anyone to sleep so all one has to 
do if they want to try the noise reduction function is to read for a 
minute or so and the have the basic knowledge required to get started.


So what's Goldwave worth these days, $59.00 or thereabouts? Damn good 
value for money and I'd almost be tempted to say its a Giveaway! when 
one also considers its many built-in powerful functions and the fact that 
the author has gone out of his way to make this product accessible.



Dane Trethowan
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Re: Reading current volume status in goldwave

2010-07-26 Thread Rob Tabor
Good morning Mario and listmembers. Mario, I truly undersstand your need for 
DB status info as a training tool -- I suspect for a sighted person who is 
accustomed to relying on sight in lieu of sound. Now it is possible that 
finding a DB status display could be accomplished with a few lines of code 
added to  Mr. Grimsby's JFW scripts or the scripts of W.E. and the other 
screen readers. Many GW users will no doubt derive benefit not IF but WHEN 
this deficiency of access is solved. It will be helpful to have the numeric 
readings to confirm that autogain and other optimized gain options are 
working as they should. Have a great day on this 20th celebration of the 
signing of the Americans With Disabilities Act.


Best regards
Rob Tabor
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: Reading current volume status in goldwave


rob, thanks really for your very kind help. Well, the thing why i insist 
so much on the db status is because of the person to who i teach usage of 
goldwave. If it would be for me, i wouldn't mind so much since i trained 
my self to use my ears in really specific situation and it wouldn't be so 
necesary for me.


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From:  Rob Tabor rob.ta...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 2:11 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Reading current volume status in goldwave


Hi again Mario.

I had your exact question in mind in explaining the use of the autogain 
feature in GW 5.57. I have never seen a db level indicator on the title 
bar, but I had thought the purpose of the autogain feature was to make 
the gain level uniform throughout the audio file regardless of the 
varying sound levels in the recording. If this is true, the need to know 
db levels is obviated. If not, then I will either have to do some poking 
around to see if I can find a db level indicator. IN my case, most of the 
video attributes are set to blank as a preventive remedy to cure a 
conflict between JAWS and the GW video intercept manager which was 
causing system tie-ups after about 20 to 25 minutes of normal operation. 
If any listmember all ready knows how to access a DB level, please chime 
in!

Best regards,
Rob Tabor
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From: Mario Percinic mario.perci...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 3:10 AM
Subject: Re: Reading current volume status in goldwave


Hello Rob, and first of all thank you very much for you kind 
explanation.
However, this is not what i was looking for, since i know how to use 
autogain option. What i would like to do is to get the info about the 
current db level of the file which i just lounched, so that i could 
compaire 2 files or 2 parts of the files which i want to make sound the 
same.

Thanks.
Mario

--
From:  Rob Tabor rob.ta...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 5:58 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Reading current volume status in goldwave


Good evening, Mario and List.

The GoldWave autogain function works very well in maximizing and 
leveling gain throughout the audio recording. To effectuate autogain do 
the following

1. Type ctrl+a to ensure the entire audio file is selected.
2. Type alt+c to launch the effects menu.
3. Type u (without quotes) for the volume menu.
4. Your first choice should be autogain so type Enter to bring up a 
dialog box.
5. In the autogain dialog box you will find a list of 7 preset options 
which include adjust to 50 percent, default, ffast gain update, 
maximize voice with high noise, medium gain update, peak reducer,and 
slow gain update. Select a preset option with the up and down arrow 
keys and tab 3 times to preview and listen before making your permanent 
choice.
6. When satisfied with your autogain preset choice, tab once and hit 
space on the stop preview button and tab to OK and press the space bar. 
It may take a few minutes to reprocess the gain level depending on your 
PC's overall performance and the size of the audio file.


Generally, I find the default option works well at least 90 percent of 
the time.


HTH
Rob Tabor

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From: Mario Percinic mario.perci...@gmail.com

To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:10 AM
Subject: Reading current volume status in goldwave


Hello there. Just a small question for goldwave users. How can i read 
current status of the volume of the file or part of the file in 
goldwave, so that i can make all the parts of the file to be equal?

Using jfw and nvda as screen readers.
Thanks for all the answers.
Mario Percinic
ICT specialist for accessible technology
mail/googletalk/msn: mario.perci...@gmail.com
skype: acousticman
GSM: +385922630259
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Re: Reading current volume status in goldwave

2010-07-25 Thread Rob Tabor

Hi again Mario.

I had your exact question in mind in explaining the use of the autogain 
feature in GW 5.57. I have never seen a db level indicator on the title bar, 
but I had thought the purpose of the autogain feature was to make the gain 
level uniform throughout the audio file regardless of the varying sound 
levels in the recording. If this is true, the need to know db levels is 
obviated. If not, then I will either have to do some poking around to see if 
I can find a db level indicator. IN my case, most of the video attributes 
are set to blank as a preventive remedy to cure a conflict between JAWS 
and the GW video intercept manager which was causing system tie-ups after 
about 20 to 25 minutes of normal operation. If any listmember all ready 
knows how to access a DB level, please chime in!

Best regards,
Rob Tabor
- Original Message - 
From: Mario Percinic mario.perci...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 3:10 AM
Subject: Re: Reading current volume status in goldwave



Hello Rob, and first of all thank you very much for you kind explanation.
However, this is not what i was looking for, since i know how to use 
autogain option. What i would like to do is to get the info about the 
current db level of the file which i just lounched, so that i could 
compaire 2 files or 2 parts of the files which i want to make sound the 
same.

Thanks.
Mario

--
From:  Rob Tabor rob.ta...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 5:58 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Reading current volume status in goldwave


Good evening, Mario and List.

The GoldWave autogain function works very well in maximizing and leveling 
gain throughout the audio recording. To effectuate autogain do the 
following

1. Type ctrl+a to ensure the entire audio file is selected.
2. Type alt+c to launch the effects menu.
3. Type u (without quotes) for the volume menu.
4. Your first choice should be autogain so type Enter to bring up a 
dialog box.
5. In the autogain dialog box you will find a list of 7 preset options 
which include adjust to 50 percent, default, ffast gain update, maximize 
voice with high noise, medium gain update, peak reducer,and slow gain 
update. Select a preset option with the up and down arrow keys and tab 3 
times to preview and listen before making your permanent choice.
6. When satisfied with your autogain preset choice, tab once and hit 
space on the stop preview button and tab to OK and press the space bar. 
It may take a few minutes to reprocess the gain level depending on your 
PC's overall performance and the size of the audio file.


Generally, I find the default option works well at least 90 percent of 
the time.


HTH
Rob Tabor

- Original Message - 
From: Mario Percinic mario.perci...@gmail.com

To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:10 AM
Subject: Reading current volume status in goldwave


Hello there. Just a small question for goldwave users. How can i read 
current status of the volume of the file or part of the file in 
goldwave, so that i can make all the parts of the file to be equal?

Using jfw and nvda as screen readers.
Thanks for all the answers.
Mario Percinic
ICT specialist for accessible technology
mail/googletalk/msn: mario.perci...@gmail.com
skype: acousticman
GSM: +385922630259
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Re: Reading current volume status in goldwave

2010-07-25 Thread Rob Tabor

Hi, Don.
Thanks for your willingness to advocate for better accessibility for myself 
and other GW users. It certainly doesn't hurt to be on a first name basis 
with the program developer. Please do not hesitate to call on me and 
hopefully others on list for letters of support if you determine or believe 
they are needed. Here's wishing you the best in this very worthwhile 
endeavor.

Best regards
Rob Tabor
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From: Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: Reading current volume status in goldwave



Well, for whatever it's worth, in versions somewhere around 5.25, one
could easily read the DB level while recording with Goldwave.  I too
am no longer able to do this and plan to write to Chris, the author of
Goldwave, in an effort to find out specifically what settings need to
be changed in order to do so.

Don Roberts



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From:  Rob Tabor rob.ta...@sbcglobal.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: Reading current volume status in goldwave


Hi again Mario.

I had your exact question in mind in explaining the use of the
autogain
feature in GW 5.57. I have never seen a db level indicator on the
title bar,
but I had thought the purpose of the autogain feature was to make the
gain
level uniform throughout the audio file regardless of the varying
sound
levels in the recording. If this is true, the need to know db levels
is
obviated. If not, then I will either have to do some poking around to
see if
I can find a db level indicator. IN my case, most of the video
attributes
are set to blank as a preventive remedy to cure a conflict between
JAWS
and the GW video intercept manager which was causing system tie-ups
after
about 20 to 25 minutes of normal operation. If any listmember all
ready
knows how to access a DB level, please chime in!
Best regards,
Rob Tabor
- Original Message - 
From: Mario Percinic mario.perci...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 3:10 AM
Subject: Re: Reading current volume status in goldwave



Hello Rob, and first of all thank you very much for you kind
explanation.
However, this is not what i was looking for, since i know how to use
autogain option. What i would like to do is to get the info about
the
current db level of the file which i just lounched, so that i could
compaire 2 files or 2 parts of the files which i want to make sound
the
same.
Thanks.
Mario

--
From:  Rob Tabor rob.ta...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 5:58 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Reading current volume status in goldwave


Good evening, Mario and List.

The GoldWave autogain function works very well in maximizing and
leveling
gain throughout the audio recording. To effectuate autogain do the
following
1. Type ctrl+a to ensure the entire audio file is selected.
2. Type alt+c to launch the effects menu.
3. Type u (without quotes) for the volume menu.
4. Your first choice should be autogain so type Enter to bring up a
dialog box.
5. In the autogain dialog box you will find a list of 7 preset
options
which include adjust to 50 percent, default, ffast gain update,
maximize
voice with high noise, medium gain update, peak reducer,and slow
gain
update. Select a preset option with the up and down arrow keys and
tab 3
times to preview and listen before making your permanent choice.
6. When satisfied with your autogain preset choice, tab once and
hit
space on the stop preview button and tab to OK and press the space
bar.
It may take a few minutes to reprocess the gain level depending on
your
PC's overall performance and the size of the audio file.

Generally, I find the default option works well at least 90 percent
of
the time.

HTH
Rob Tabor

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From: Mario Percinic mario.perci...@gmail.com

To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:10 AM
Subject: Reading current volume status in goldwave



Hello there. Just a small question for goldwave users. How can i
read
current status of the volume of the file or part of the file in
goldwave, so that i can make all the parts of the file to be
equal?
Using jfw and nvda as screen readers.
Thanks for all the answers.
Mario Percinic
ICT specialist for accessible technology
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Re: Reading current volume status in goldwave

2010-07-24 Thread Rob Tabor

Good evening, Mario and List.

The GoldWave autogain function works very well in maximizing and leveling 
gain throughout the audio recording. To effectuate autogain do the following

1. Type ctrl+a to ensure the entire audio file is selected.
2. Type alt+c to launch the effects menu.
3. Type u (without quotes) for the volume menu.
4. Your first choice should be autogain so type Enter to bring up a dialog 
box.
5. In the autogain dialog box you will find a list of 7 preset options which 
include adjust to 50 percent, default, ffast gain update, maximize voice 
with high noise, medium gain update, peak reducer,and slow gain update. 
Select a preset option with the up and down arrow keys and tab 3 times to 
preview and listen before making your permanent choice.
6. When satisfied with your autogain preset choice, tab once and hit space 
on the stop preview button and tab to OK and press the space bar. It may 
take a few minutes to reprocess the gain level depending on your PC's 
overall performance and the size of the audio file.


Generally, I find the default option works well at least 90 percent of the 
time.


HTH
Rob Tabor

- Original Message - 
From: Mario Percinic mario.perci...@gmail.com

To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:10 AM
Subject: Reading current volume status in goldwave


Hello there. Just a small question for goldwave users. How can i read 
current status of the volume of the file or part of the file in goldwave, 
so that i can make all the parts of the file to be equal?

Using jfw and nvda as screen readers.
Thanks for all the answers.
Mario Percinic
ICT specialist for accessible technology
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Re: Question About Trial Version Of Gold Wave

2010-07-18 Thread Rob Tabor

Good evening, Howard and listmembers.

I agree with Howard that Goldwave is an excellent buy for its features and 
functionality in the package. There are much more expensive audio 
reprocessing packages, e.g., Studio Recorder by the American Printing House 
for The Blind

http://www.aph.org/
, which allows you to hear audio as you are highlighting a sound clip to 
manipulate or modify. A second advantage of Studio Recorder is that it was 
developed for use by blind users, therefore, no script is required to make 
it fully accessible right out of the box. As to the audio queuing issue, it 
is not difficult to customize one of Goldwave's  three playback functions to 
confirm your selection. However, making very minor adjustments to the audio 
range can be somewhat tricky. Goldwave has performed well on the 
accessibility front with the aid of very solid third party scripts by Jim 
Grimsby. since Version 5.57 is the most significant upgrade in quite some 
time, I suspect new scripts will need to be developed to access the new 
features of GW5.57. Hopefully, Mr. Grimsby or another developer is working 
on updating the scripts.


Best regards
Rob Tabor
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From: Howard Traxler htraxl...@earthlink.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: Question About Trial Version Of Gold Wave


When I got goldwave, the demo was fully functional.  The limit was on 
keystrokes during a single session.  It has many bitrates to choose from. 
I use it for most of my audio work--and at around fifty bucks, I don't 
think you can beat it.

Howard
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From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 9:01 PM
Subject: Question About Trial Version Of Gold Wave


Hello again list:  Got another one for ya; this time, it's about Gold 
Wave; my question is basically this: if you have the trial version of 
Gold Wave, will it let you convert files or change bit rate?  Also..does 
it work as good as switch?  For example, does it give you as many bit 
rates to choose from as Switch?  BTW-I did get Switch to do what I needed 
it to do!  It's really not that hard; it was just that my thick head 
didn't quite understand the instructions correctly!  Thanks to all who 
responded to that post!
Tom Kaufman P.S.  The alt-A thing does work..so does the F3..but as 
far as I can determine, none of the buttons (at least with the version of 
Switch that I have)..will do anything!

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Re: Problems With Switch

2010-07-14 Thread Rob Tabor

Hi Tom and list.

I agree with Jörgen that the best way to uninstall an app is via the 
add/remove programs option in Windows CTRL panel. While even this software 
de-installation process may leave traces of program code in the Windows 
registry, the process is usually smoother and less problematic than using 
the program's uninstall component. Not to be cynical, but think of it this 
way. The software developer is not necessarily going to make it easy for a 
dissatisfied customer to get rid of his/her/its prized software app.


Best regards
Rob Tabor
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From: Jörgen Hansson hansson.jo...@spray.se

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: Problems With Switch


Hello tom!
well, I have been in to this before my self, so once I was tired of that
kind of trial expention. but one friend of mine told me that once you have
installed the Switch converter, you can also go in to the controll panel, go
to add and remove programs, go to the Switch program aplication, then
uninstall.
when you're in that uninstall option, you have 2 choices, the first one is
uninstall, and the second one is downgrade to the free version, this means
that youdon't have to be worry about the trialversion anymore, and you can
use it as long as you like.
hope this helps.
Regards,
Jörgen Hansson!
Tel +46 703-601296
www.jorgenhansson.com
skype: djtropical4532
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To: PC audio discussion list.  Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 7:30 AM
Subject: Problems With Switch


Hello list:  Hopefully this won't be too long of a post..but I'm confused 
and frustrated at this point!  As you may recall, I downloaded the Switch 
sound converter to my computer.  I haven't used it that much..but I 
apparently mistakenly have gotten the paid version!  This isn't what I 
wanted; anyhow..the trial time period elapsed!  A few minutes ago, I 
tried to use it and it let me know that I had to register it and 
pay..which I don't want to do as I had understood it was free!  So I 
figured I'd try to uninstall all the extra stuff..you know..Sound Recorder 
and something else that I don't remember; that went okay!  Aw..but now 
when I try to uninstall Switch..(was going to uninstall (then go and 
reinstall switch without the extras..but..oh no!  It tells me it cannot 
be uninstalled because, someone on my computer is using the program NOBODY 
IS USING THE DAMMED PROGRAM BUT ME!  So can somebody please tell me how to 
get around this?  I think I would like to use the pr
ogram as I have a file I want to change the bit rate on (Total Recorder 
doesn't seem to be allowing me to set it to a bit rate that will allow it 
to play where I want it to)..anyhow..this doggone Switch..makes me want 
to Switch it off!  Thanks for reading what has turned out to be a kind 
of long post; hopefully you won't mind!

Tom Kaufman
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Re: GoldWave Version 5.57 is now Available

2010-06-27 Thread Rob Tabor
The JAWS scripts for Goldwave 5 are developed by Jim Grimsby Jr. and the URL 
can easily be discovered by a Google search. Gordon or anyone is welcome to 
contact me off list and I would be happy to send the zip file to you. My 
email addy is

rob.ta...@sbcglobal.net

As for how well Mr. Grimsby's scripts work with GW 5.57 I can't address that 
as I have just discovered the release of Version 5.57. The scripts seem to 
work OK with Version 5.56, however.

Best regards
Rob Tabor

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Subject: Re: GoldWave Version 5.57 is now Available



Hi
Can anyone give the link for the Jaws scripts for this version?
Thanks.
Gordon McFarlane

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GoldWave version 5.57 is now available and can be downloaded from
www.goldwave.com.  Here are the changes in this version:

Larger Control buttons
A third playback button
Larger status and level visuals
New Digital Time visual
Improved keyboard assignments for Speech Converter tool
Several other improvements and fixes

I don't use GoldWave myself so I'm not able to answer any questions
about the program.

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Re: Sending Attachments To The List

2010-06-23 Thread Rob Tabor

Hi, John and listmembers.

Thanks John for the info on Dropbox and Sendspace. This is very helpful. 
Sounds like another task to add to my to do list while i'm on vacation. The 
only question is whether I'll get it done the week before or after NFB 
national conference in Dallas. One more question. I assume I can sign up new 
Dropbox accounts after I have activated my account and am assured Dropbox 
meets my needs. Is this assumption correct?

Take care and have a pleasant evening
Rob Tabor
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Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:07 AM
Subject: Re: Sending Attachments To The List



High Rob,
I once tried to sign up for Send Space, but could not find the register 
link to do that on the Send Space Website.
A friend of mind, invited me to join her in her Dropbox account, that's 
how I got it!
Now to answer your question about how long you can leave files on any 
server, with Send Space, you can specify a time limit, so I understand.
With Dropbox, you can leave the file or files up until you get ready to 
delete them.
When you download and install the software, it will put a folder in My 
Documents on your computer that's entitled, My Dropbox.

You can upload the files from there.
But you don't really need to do anything, because the software will take 
care of that for you.
All you have to do is, email the link to the file to someone if you wish 
to send it to anyone.

Storage space, I don't know about Send Space.
But with Dropbox, you can do this 2 ways.
#1. you can invite a friend to join you on your account to increase your 
storage space.

Or #2. you can rent more storage space for a price.
Other wise, you will start out with about 1 GB of storage space.
Hope this helps.
My best regards.
 John.
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: Sending Attachments To The List



Good evening Tom and listmembers.

In terms of anyone's direct experience, how does Dropbox compare in 
quality and efficiency to Sendspace as an internmediate web-based audio 
file transfer agent? What are the capacity and time limits of each? Is 
either or both free or do you need to buy subscriptions?

Thanks in advance for your info and guidance.

Cheers to you
Rob Tabor
Lawrence, KS/USA
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To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Sending Attachments To The List



Yes, dropbox is a good alternative.

Thanks,

Tom

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Re: Sending Attachments To The List

2010-06-22 Thread Rob Tabor

Good evening Tom and listmembers.

In terms of anyone's direct experience, how does Dropbox compare in quality 
and efficiency to Sendspace as an internmediate web-based audio file 
transfer agent? What are the capacity and time limits of each? Is either or 
both free or do you need to buy subscriptions?

Thanks in advance for your info and guidance.

Cheers to you
Rob Tabor
Lawrence, KS/USA
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Yes, dropbox is a good alternative.

Thanks,

Tom

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Re: Minidisc File Formats

2010-05-26 Thread Rob Tabor

Hi, Danny and List.
Danny, I'm curious as to what you think precludes you from installing a demo 
version of Goldwave on the laptop being lent you. It would seem immanently 
reasonable to ask the PC's owner for the green light to install the demo 
version, especially if you inform that person of your intent to remove the 
program via the Windows add/remove programs utility in control panel.

Just a thought.
Best regards,
Rob Tabor
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Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 3:33 AM
Subject: Re: Minidisc File Formats



Hi Walter.  Thanks for advising me again.  No, I haven't thought of
CDEX, as I've never used it and assumed that it was simply an
alternative to Goldwave but with less features.  One of the main
issues with putting Goldwave on this computer is the lack of available
space for programmes, but if CDEX is so basic I presume it takes up
very little room.  My stand alone CD recorder doesn't allow editing,
so the lack of such a feature isn't really an issue.  Can you please
advise on where to find it and any tutorials, and whether it needs any
additional Jaws scripts?

Again, thanks for this idea, and any other ideas or contributions from
people will still be appreciated as you can never have enough
knowledge.

Cheers, Danny

On 5/25/10, Walter Ramage w...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:

Hi Danny.  If you are unable to use Gold Wave for recordings on that
computer then have you tried using CDEX.  This will record straight onto 
the
hard drive or on to an external hard drive.  Unfortunately though, it 
isn't
an audio editor so when you start the recording then stop it, the 
resulting

file can't be manipulated.  You can though do so with Gold Wave if you
transfer the saved file to another PC or lap top that has  Gold Wave.
Walter

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Subject: Re: Minidisc File Formats


Hi Gary and Kevin.  Thanks for your advice.  Kevin, unfortunately
copying in real time (which I gather is what you're suggesting) isn't
an option for me due to its longevity, but the suggestion was
appreciated.  Also, I'm unable to put Goldwave on the laptop I'm
borrowing, but have previously found it very helpful and will be going
back to it when I get my new computer.  Gary, thanks for your
suggestions, but as I said I think such machines require the same
discs as my stand alone recorder, so it wouldn't make any difference
to me.

I guess what I'm trying to find out is whether there's any machine
(apart from computers, obviously) which record straight onto hard
drives or SD cards, allowing you to conveniently shift files straight
to a laptop without the need to record in real time or edit anything.

Many thanks, Danny

On 5/25/10, Kevin Minor kmi...@windstream.net wrote:

Hi Danny.

Here's how the copy protection scheme works in the MD world.  If your
original recording is analog, that is, you used the RCA or Walkman plug 
to
record analog audio to the MD, you can make one level of digital copy 
from

that MD.  You won't be able to make a digital copy of these second level
discs.  You can, however, make as many analog copies of MDs as you like,
copying from the original source in analog, copying that second copy to 
a

third copy in analog, and so forth.

As for software that will play the contents of an MD, I'm not sure of

that.
As I said, I hook my MD recorder to the PC using analog means, and 
record
the result into Sound Forge.  I then split the file into individual 
files

and convert them to .mp3.  It's a bit tedious, but it is doable.

Hope this helps.

Have a good day, and don't work too hard.

GO REDS!
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Re: What program plays or converts mp4 files

2010-05-26 Thread Rob Tabor
To the best of my knowledge, Goldwave supports MP3 but I'm not aware of its 
supporting Mp4 format unless there is a downloadable codec or plugin that 
makes this possible. Perhaps someone on list can enlighten me and other 
enquiring minds on the question.

Best regards
Rob Tabor
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Subject: Re: What program plays or converts mp4 files



hei, i think gold wave is the best.

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Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: What program plays or converts mp4 files


Ditto for Switch. Googling on Switch Audio Converter should get you 
there. I could pull up a URL later if needed. BTW, the free version of 
Switch will handle MP4 files.


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On 5/27/2010 12:29 AM, Roden wrote:

Hello!
you can use WinAVI.  You can search Google for that.

HTH
Roden


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Try Winamp.
It can and does play mp4 files.
I don't know anything about converting those yet, but I'm working on 
that one.

My best regards.
 John.
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Hi

I have a few films and they are in mp4, what program will
play or convert these files please?

Regards

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Re: Winamp's Dropbox Options

2010-05-22 Thread Rob Tabor

Hi, John and list.
Is the dropbox feature only available in the professional version of Winamp? 
I am also curious as to whether you can only rip and burn with the 
professional version of Version 5.72.

TIA
Rob Tabor
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Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: Winamp's Dropbox Options



High Steve,
Say you have a computer at work and a computer at home.
Using Drop Box and Winamp together, you can send audio and video files to 
your computer at home from your computer at work and vice versa.

This is also a grate tool to have if you work for a radio station too!
If you have to put together a play list, you can do it from your computer 
at home and send it to your computer at the radio station you work for.

Hope this helps.
My best regards.
 John.
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Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 8:39 AM
Subject: Winamp's Dropbox Options



What exactly can Winamp do with Dropbox?  I found the tab on the
Preferences dialog, you can create a new account or use an old one,
there's something about profiles and playlists there, but what's it
all do?  Is the idea to send things to your dropbox as you play them
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Re: Winamp question

2010-05-22 Thread Rob Tabor

Good evening, John.
Do you activate the rip or burn menus before activating the burn or rip 
button? WMP seems to require the corresponding menus for whichever function 
you want to perform before WMP will allow the process to execute. As for the 
burn menu, MicroSoft probably wants to make sure you are taking a deliberate 
choice as to whether you want to burn an audio CD or a data CD.

HTH
Rob Tabor
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From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: Winamp question



Hello Rob,
I was running WMP 10, but I upgraded to WMP 11 thinking that would fix the 
problem.
But when I try to rip a CD, I here WMP say, Windows Media player, close 
button.
But when I click on details, I get a message that says, the settings in 
Windows Media Player and the device manager don't match.
I had this problem with WMP 10, now I'm having the same problem with WMP 
11.

If something got change with my CDR drive, how do I fix it?
It also gives me the same message when I try to burn CD's too as well.
Again, how do I fix it?
Thinks in advance.
My best regards.
 John.
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From:  Rob Tabor rob.ta...@sbcglobal.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: Winamp question



Hi, John.
What version of WMP do you have on your PC? I use Version 11 and it burns 
CD's just fine, although I usually have to locate files using Windows 
Explorer, then launch WMP via the WE context menu. I have not tried 
ripping with WMP so you'll have to look to one of our learned colleagues 
for guidance on that question.

HTH
Rob Tabor
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From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: Winamp question



High Chris,
That's one reason why I don't use WMP.
Winamp has that media player beat in that aspect and respect.
I use to use WMP for ripping and burning CD's.
But some how, something in WMP got broken because it won't rip or burn 
CD's anymore.
I use Winamp for the burning of CD's, but I'd like to know where the CD 
ripper is in Winamp.

If you can tell me that, you'll be a big help to me!
Oh, and thinks in advance too!
My best regards.
 John.
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From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:46 PM
Subject: RE: Winamp question


I'm running Winamp 5.572, and I do see AVI as a supported file type. 
It's
listed in the Winamp preferences in the file types list. When I click 
on an
AVI file in Windows Explorer, Winamp is the media player that comes up 
and
plays it. Did you install the lite or standard version of Winamp? I 
don't
know if that makes a difference or not. Did you make sure that all of 
the

file type support was installed when you installed Winamp?

I'm also pretty sure that WMP supports fast forwarding and rewinding 
through

the menus, hot keys or using the slide bar on the interface. I don't
typically use WMP though, so I can't be sure. Does fast forwarding and
rewinding in WMP work for you on other file types? My biggest gripe 
with WMP
is that I can't figure out how to control the amount you jump in a 
file. I

think it's based on a percent of the overall length of the file.


--
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chalt...@gmail.com




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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Dave McElroy WA6BEF
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:37 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Winamp question

Well the simple fact is that  AVI does not ppear as a supported file 
type in
5.72 whereas it does in 5.32.  In fact, there are only 61 file types 
with
which to associate as opposed to 67 on the earlier one.  So it would 
appear

that I'm hosed.

I wouldn't even mind except that I can't control Windows Media player, 
I.E.

it won't fast forward or rewind.

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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Joe Paton
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:54 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: RE: Winamp question

At 19:07 20/05/2010, you wrote:

Winamp opens as it should, the AVI file just doesn't play.  But it
does/did in version 5.32, which I have on my laptop.  Did we lose some
functionality with the later Winamp release?  Maybe I should go back to
an earlier version?


Joe writes,

I don't think so.
Back to my original post, have you checkd the file associations?

and ensured that the video setting are correct?

I'm guessing here, but it might be worth a shot.





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[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Joe Paton
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:21 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Winamp question

Dave,

go to winamp

Re: Winamp question

2010-05-21 Thread Rob Tabor

Hi, John.
What version of WMP do you have on your PC? I use Version 11 and it burns 
CD's just fine, although I usually have to locate files using Windows 
Explorer, then launch WMP via the WE context menu. I have not tried ripping 
with WMP so you'll have to look to one of our learned colleagues for 
guidance on that question.

HTH
Rob Tabor
- Original Message - 
From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: Winamp question



High Chris,
That's one reason why I don't use WMP.
Winamp has that media player beat in that aspect and respect.
I use to use WMP for ripping and burning CD's.
But some how, something in WMP got broken because it won't rip or burn 
CD's anymore.
I use Winamp for the burning of CD's, but I'd like to know where the CD 
ripper is in Winamp.

If you can tell me that, you'll be a big help to me!
Oh, and thinks in advance too!
My best regards.
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:46 PM
Subject: RE: Winamp question



I'm running Winamp 5.572, and I do see AVI as a supported file type. It's
listed in the Winamp preferences in the file types list. When I click on 
an
AVI file in Windows Explorer, Winamp is the media player that comes up 
and

plays it. Did you install the lite or standard version of Winamp? I don't
know if that makes a difference or not. Did you make sure that all of the
file type support was installed when you installed Winamp?

I'm also pretty sure that WMP supports fast forwarding and rewinding 
through

the menus, hot keys or using the slide bar on the interface. I don't
typically use WMP though, so I can't be sure. Does fast forwarding and
rewinding in WMP work for you on other file types? My biggest gripe with 
WMP
is that I can't figure out how to control the amount you jump in a file. 
I

think it's based on a percent of the overall length of the file.


--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com




-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Dave McElroy WA6BEF
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:37 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Winamp question

Well the simple fact is that  AVI does not ppear as a supported file type 
in

5.72 whereas it does in 5.32.  In fact, there are only 61 file types with
which to associate as opposed to 67 on the earlier one.  So it would 
appear

that I'm hosed.

I wouldn't even mind except that I can't control Windows Media player, 
I.E.

it won't fast forward or rewind.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Joe Paton
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:54 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: RE: Winamp question

At 19:07 20/05/2010, you wrote:

Winamp opens as it should, the AVI file just doesn't play.  But it
does/did in version 5.32, which I have on my laptop.  Did we lose some
functionality with the later Winamp release?  Maybe I should go back to
an earlier version?


Joe writes,

I don't think so.
Back to my original post, have you checkd the file associations?

and ensured that the video setting are correct?

I'm guessing here, but it might be worth a shot.





-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Joe Paton
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:21 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Winamp question

Dave,

go to winamp prefferences.

start at the top of the tree with the home key.

arrow down to file types.

tab through the options and select the all button

Now go back to the tree view, and arrow down to video.

Tab through these options and make selections as appropriate.

See if that helps.

JP
At 05:38 20/05/2010, you wrote:
Much against my better judgement, I upgraded to the latest Winamp,
5.72

and

since then I've been unable to play my AVI files.  Sure I can play
them

in

Windows Media player but I've no control over em; can't fast forward,
rewind
etc.



I tried that K-lite kodec thing and all Ive done it seems to me is
added junk to my pc with no positive result.  Now the AVI file in
question

plays

nicely on my laptop with 5.32.  Any quick and dirty answers?



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Re: My first podcast

2010-05-19 Thread Rob Tabor

Hi, Chris.
I would enjoy having a copy of your podcast, please. I am looking forward to 
checking it out and will do so as soon as I get the dropbox link.

Take care
Rob Tabor
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To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 6:30 PM
Subject: My first podcast



Hello all,
I have done my first professional recording of a JAWS Tandem session, as 
part of my project. If anyone wants a copy, which is in MP3 format, please 
let me know. I plan to upload it to Dropbox so that I can give you the 
link via the groups, rather than attaching it on or off the groups, as the 
MP3 is quite large (over 16MB in size). The recording was done using 
GoldWave 5.56, and so was the editing, for example removing silence or 
unwanted audio.

Many thanks in advance for any offers.
From Chris.
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Re: Digital recording software

2010-05-17 Thread Rob Tabor

Hi, Johnny, Chris, and listers.

I would also encourage purchasing at least a one year license for Goldwave, 
although I purchased the fully licensed copy for only $49. By the time I 
took that decision I was well on my way to learning most of its basic 
operations after working with the trial version. The only problem was that 
JAWS would crash after about 20 minutes of normal operation. Thanks to Rick 
Harmon, host and producer of the Blind Geek Zone podcasts, the JAWS Goldwave 
conflict is now resolved by setting all possible video attributes to blank. 
This is done by pressing F11 which activates the user preferences dialogues. 
Then press ctrl+tab to go to Video Attributes to modify settings.


BTW, I downloaded Goldwave Version 5.56 last night. So far so good. As for 
Multiquence, I have not tried it to know since I have not yet had occasion 
to work with digital video. I am curious to find out what others have 
experienced as to its screen reader compatibility.


Johnny, if playing background music on a turntable or recorder is 
distracting to your wife while she is reading aloud, there is an alternative 
way to mix the music. If you have digital music on your hard drive or a 
memory stick you can mix it under the vocal track. The first step to mixing 
is to select an audio clip and paste it into Windows clipboard. Let me know 
if you want specifics on how to mix pre-recorded digital music.


Chris, will your podcasts be on Blind Cool Tech? Please let us know when you 
have produced your first one as I will be eager to give it a listen.


Best regards
Rob Tabor
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: Digital recording software



Hi,
If you enjoy GoldWave, please do consider purchasing at least the one year 
license, which is only $19. I did this today, and I sure don't regret it. 
Expect some podcasts to come from me smiles.



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On 17/05/2010 15:31, Johnny Angel! wrote:

Hi Rob and list,

Thanks to everyone who offered me advice. I have since downloaded
GoldWave's latest version. I am also looking at their Multiquence
program. Is it accessible to WE users?

Johnny

At 11:15 PM 5/16/2010, you wrote:

Good evening Johnny and List.

I commend you to try Goldwave as a sound recorder and editing package.
The program is downloadable as a demo from http://www.goldwave.com/
This will enable you to experiment pretty thoroughly with the software
before you make a decision as to whether to buy it. It will give you
about 3 thousand keystrokes before you are prompted to buy the
licensed copy or to uninstall the demo version.

When I purchased Goldwave several months ago I paid $49 US which I
regard as a very good value for its abundance of sound editing and
reprocessing features. As for the learning curve, I had no prior
experience in producing digital audio before acquiring and learning
Goldwave which is very speech friendly with JAWS. For even better JAWS
interface I also commend you to get and install the Goldwave JAWS
scripts developed by Jim Grimsby. They are free and easily installed
by simply copying the 18 files into the JAWS settings folder. The
scripts come in a zip file. The Lame MP3 encoder is also available on
the Goldwave web site and will be needed if you want to record in or
change your sampling rate to 44.1 KHz, the sampling rate required to
enable production of an audio CD if you wish to do this.

Lastly, I have experienced the Goldwave help file to be very easily
navigable and easy to use as a learning resource.

If you use other screen readers such as Window-Eyes or SAM or NVDA I
must defer to those experienced users.

Have fun with the brave world of audio production, whatever audio
package you decide to get.

Best regards
Rob Tabor
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Hi,

I am getting ready to record my wife reading. I might even want to
put some music in the background.
What software is inexpensive and is relatively easy for a novice to
learn. The key words in the previous sentence are easy and
inexpensive. smile

Thanks,

Johnny Chilelli


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Re: Digital recording software

2010-05-16 Thread Rob Tabor

Good evening Johnny and List.

I commend you to try Goldwave as a sound recorder and editing package. The 
program is downloadable as a demo from http://www.goldwave.com/
This will enable you to experiment pretty thoroughly with the software 
before you make a decision as to whether to buy it. It will give you about 3 
thousand keystrokes before you are prompted to buy the licensed copy or to 
uninstall the demo version.


When I purchased Goldwave several months ago I paid $49 US which I regard as 
a very good value for its abundance of sound editing and reprocessing 
features. As for the learning curve, I had no prior experience in producing 
digital audio before acquiring and learning Goldwave which is very speech 
friendly with JAWS. For even better JAWS interface I also commend you to get 
and install the Goldwave JAWS scripts developed by Jim Grimsby. They are 
free and easily installed by simply copying the 18 files into the JAWS 
settings folder. The scripts come in a zip file. The Lame MP3 encoder is 
also available on the Goldwave web site and will be needed if you want to 
record in or change your sampling rate to 44.1 KHz, the sampling rate 
required to enable production of an audio CD if you wish to do this.


Lastly, I have experienced the Goldwave help file to be very easily 
navigable and easy to use as a learning resource.


If you use other screen readers such as Window-Eyes or SAM or NVDA I must 
defer to those experienced users.


Have fun with the brave world of audio production, whatever audio package 
you decide to get.


Best regards
Rob Tabor
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 4:06 PM
Subject: Digital recording software



Hi,

I am getting ready to record my wife reading.  I might even want to put 
some music in the background.
What software is inexpensive and is relatively easy for a novice to learn. 
The key words in the previous sentence are easy and inexpensive. 
smile


Thanks,

Johnny Chilelli


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Re: Rwhat is the best media player out there?

2010-05-07 Thread Rob Tabor

Good morning, colleagues.
Does any one know if the Mardi playlist manager has media rip and burn 
functions, or is it strictly for audio playback.

Thanks and best regards
Rob Tabor Lawrence, KS/USA
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To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 2:11 AM
Subject: RE: Rwhat is the best media player out there?



Hi Tim,
Well since I wrote my mail i've been playing with the Mardy Playlist 
thingy,

and got in love again. Grin
Now it's really only missing the video support. The first time you start 
the

program it's quite slow, but after that it really rocks!
But thank you for that name. I'll try that on another machine soon.

Brian

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Sent: 7. maj 2010 08:43
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: Rwhat is the best media player out there?

there is also Vu Player, which sadly hasn't been updated since version 
2.49

in 2007, but runs like a charm! under vista, 7 and XP

--
From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 1:32
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: what is the best media player out there?


Hi,

Well I really don't want to start a religious discussion aboutthis topic,
but in the good old days I would have chosen Winamp as my one and only
player without any hesitation.

But today I'm a little bit in doubt, what's the best solution.

I'm running windows 7 and the latest winamp 5.57 various versions really
has
issues that can make it crash some times.

So now I'm in search for a lite, super fast easy to use player with good
navigation keys and such.

I really love the Mardi Playlist program allot, but it also has afew
issues.
For example it's programmed in a way that make jaws a little bit too
verbose, and it's quite slow when starting.

I also wish it could play afew video files, so it could become the
preferred
media application for all types of streaming media.



Hmm wel it might even end up in a reinstallation of winamp again. Grin

But I'm very curious to hear, if someone on this list has good experience
with other mediaplayers with broad support for all kind of media files.



Best regards

Brian





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Re: Live365 Player

2010-05-03 Thread Rob Tabor

Good evening Marsha and list.
If you have had the opportunity to examine the layout of the Live365 web 
site you will notice the player is launched when you choose a specific 
broadcast stream by pressing the Enter key on the click to listen 
hyperlink. As for shortcuts, I have not discovered any hotkeys, either 
documented or undocumented. However, I am pretty facile with JAWS web 
navigation methods such as links macros and navigation by tables and search 
edit boxes. A fun way to discover new stations is to search for a station 
that plays. You can specify artist, title, or genre including sub genre. If 
you have a VIP membership which costs $71.40 annually, you can build a 
library of station presets of which I have 20 and counting.
I'm glad you're enjoying Live365. I just wish I had the means to make it 
portable. HTH.

Rob Tabor
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Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 3:27 AM
Subject: Live365 Player



Hi
 I love live 365.  Are there any short cut keys for this player?  How do
you make it work?

Marsha




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Re: Sirius Satellite Radio with Boombox users

2010-05-03 Thread Rob Tabor

Hi, Petro.
I also have an Audiovox Sirius boom box and tuner which is the same one I've 
had since 2003 I think. Since new channels load and disappear as determined 
by the company I can think of no reason to account for your inability to 
pick up streams offered in the Best Of XM channel lineup. However, I suggest 
undertaking a two step troubleshooting process. First, leave your receiver 
running for at least 2 minutes the next time you power on. When channels 
change in any respect, the new configuration must be downloaded by your 
receiver the first time you power on after Sirius XM has made changes on 
their main broadcast server. If this fails to enable you to pick up the new 
channels I advise you to contact Sirius Customer Service to inform the 
company about the problem you are having. If you have an outside antenna 
which has been in service for a few years you may be advised to purchase a 
replacement antenna.

HTH
Rob Tabor
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To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 1:08 PM
Subject: Sirius Satellite Radio with Boombox users


Would like to know which Sirius Satellite Radio Brand/model with boombox 
you are using for the home. Also must have remote control. I currently 
have an old Audiovox Sirius SIR-PNP2 with boombox and remote control. This 
old receiver does not allow me to receive 'best of xm' subscription 
package. Any help with this is greatly appreciated.


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Re: goldwave questions

2010-05-02 Thread Rob Tabor

Hi, Tom.
Tlad I could help you discover that you have the lame MP3 encoder after all. 
Unfortunately, I will have to defer to other listers who have experience 
using Total Recorder to tell you how many bit rate and sampling rate options 
it has. BTW, one of the first things you'll want to do in Goldwave is to set 
your record time to unbound. This control is found in the user control 
preferences which is accessed with the F11 key. Then type ctrl+ttab to get 
to record preferences and tab through this dialog.


Another trap for the unwary with Goldwave is that the video intercept 
manager of JAWS may conflict with the video attributes in goldwave which 
control how the visual wave form presents itself on screen. I learned the 
hard way by having JAWS crash about every 20 minutes or so during normal 
record and playback. To head this off, go to the video attributes tab in 
your control preferences menu and set any video controls you can to blank. 
These changes in video settings has completely resolved the JAWS video 
conflict. I don't know what screen reader you use, but it's logical to 
surmise that if you have this kind of problem with your screen reader the 
cause and the solution will probably be the same.


Good luck with Goldwave and have fun!
Best regards
Rob Tabor
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: goldwave questions


Hello Rob and list:  Yes..that was most helpful in solving this lame 
Encoder mystery!  I searched..and found that there are four occurrences 
of that Lame encoder..I remember someone saying on this list that, in 
order to make MP3 files, one _had_ to have the Lame Encoder in order to 
do this! There was nothing in the programs menu that indicated that I 
had it; nor did I see anything in Add/Remove programs, so I was somewhat 
mystified!  I know I have recorded and played countless MP3 files..but how 
could this be if I didn't have the encoder?  Guess it's all in knowing 
what the exact name is..and knowing exactly how to go about looking for 
it! Also..I thought this was the case concerning Gold Wave (that you 
couldn't schedule it to record when you weren't going to be around)..I 
actually did download what is supposed to be a trial version of Gold 
Wave..but haven't done anything with it yet; I mainly had wanted to get 
Gold Wave so I would have more flexibility of changing bit and sample rate 
in files if I needed to (Total Recorder will do this)..but as I understand 
it, Gold Wave will give you more choices!  Is this correct?

Tom Kaufman

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Re: goldwave questions

2010-05-02 Thread Rob Tabor

Hi, Julie and list.
Thanks for the instructions on recording a stream from web audio. I'll 
experiment and report as to how it goes.

Best regards
Rob Tabor
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From: JULIE RODAWAY guidingp...@blueyonder.co.uk

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: goldwave questions



Hi Rob

Go into the control properties with F11.  Then, look for the volume tab.

After you see the mike volume, there should be an option to check or 
uncheck.  Don't check it.
Scrolling on, you should see options for stereo mix.  Make sure options 
here are checked.


This should allow gold wave to capture audio from your soundcard so it 
should catch the audio streams from the web, providing you have them 
running through that.


Hope this helps.  Any clarification needed, get back to me and I'll be 
pleased to further assist.


- Original Message - 
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: goldwave questions



Hi, Julie and all.

Can you kindly tell me how to record streaming audio from the web using 
Goldwave? I have looked through the user control preferences tabs and 
find no option that allows recording from the web. Perhaps a stream 
ripper is required to capture the streaming web audio which is then 
loaded as a supported GW file? Thanks in advance.

Best regards
Rob Tabor
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: goldwave questions



Hi

Yes, you can record live streams from the internet using gold wave.  I 
do it all the time.
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: goldwave questions


Ok no problem. Just curious that was all. Try looking in the about 
dialogue box.



Chris Hallsworth
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On 01/05/2010 21:58, Dan Kysor wrote:

of course


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Subject: Re: goldwave questions



Have you paid for a code in the first place?


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On 01/05/2010 19:00, dan kysor wrote:
first, where can I find the registration code in goldwave and 
secondly,
can you record real time audio streams off the internet using 
goldwave?

Thx
Dan

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Re: goldwave questions

2010-05-01 Thread Rob Tabor

Hello Tom and List.
I'm not aware of an automated recording scheduler in Goldwave unless there 
is a plugin available. The Lame MP3 encoder's file name is

lame_enc.dll.
Hope that helps
best regards
Rob Tabor
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Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: goldwave questions


Does Gold Wave have a scheduler?  I use Total Recorder..and it does 
fine; was just wondering about Gold Wave (if it has the capability to 
schedule a recording when you're not there as Total Recorder will 
do)..while I have it on my mind, I'm wondering how it is that I'm making 
MP3 recordings with Total Recorder if I do not have the Lame Encoder? 
I've heard that one __must_ have this in order to make MP3 recordings! 
But as far as I can tell, I have no lame Encoder on here!  Could it be 
that it's in Total Recorder somewhere?

Tom Kaufman (aka Tomcat)

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Re: goldwave questions

2010-05-01 Thread Rob Tabor

Hi, Julie and all.

Can you kindly tell me how to record streaming audio from the web using 
Goldwave? I have looked through the user control preferences tabs and find 
no option that allows recording from the web. Perhaps a stream ripper is 
required to capture the streaming web audio which is then loaded as a 
supported GW file? Thanks in advance.

Best regards
Rob Tabor
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From: JULIE RODAWAY guidingp...@blueyonder.co.uk

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: goldwave questions



Hi

Yes, you can record live streams from the internet using gold wave.  I do 
it all the time.
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From: chris hallsworth christopher...@googlemail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: goldwave questions


Ok no problem. Just curious that was all. Try looking in the about 
dialogue box.



Chris Hallsworth
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Skype: chrishallsworth7266
Twitter: http://twitter.com/christopherh40

On 01/05/2010 21:58, Dan Kysor wrote:

of course


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Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: goldwave questions



Have you paid for a code in the first place?


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On 01/05/2010 19:00, dan kysor wrote:
first, where can I find the registration code in goldwave and 
secondly,
can you record real time audio streams off the internet using 
goldwave?

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Re: goldwave questions

2010-05-01 Thread Rob Tabor

Hi, Dan.
When you purchased your licensed copy of Goldwave you should have received 
an email containing your product User ID and authorization code key. These 
are then entered in the user control preferences dialog box. However, I 
won't swear to it as I am unable to locate the authorization codes entry 
field in my GW interface. THis is probably because this filed may have 
disappeared after my copy was automaticly validated. At any rate, I have 
found the Goldwave on board help files very helpful in enabling me to use 
the Goldwave record and playback interfaces very effectively and 
confidently.


As for your second question, I will defer to others as I am also curious as 
to how to capture a web audio stream with it. This may take a stream wripper 
to capture the streaming audio into a Goldwave supported file format. 
Hopefully we will both get an answer soon.

Best regards
Rob Tabor
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first, where can I find the registration code in goldwave and secondly, 
can you record real time audio streams off the internet using goldwave?

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Re: saving and playing audio books from my NLS player

2010-04-30 Thread Rob Tabor
Goldwave also comes withthe Lame encoder which can be downloaded from 
goldwave.com as a plugin. I also commend Goldwave as a very easy to use and 
inexpensive sound recorder and editor. A licensed copy is only about $50 
American or $59 Canadian. You can ddownload Goldwave as a free demo which 
will give you about 3 thousand key strokes before you have to take a 
decision to purchase or uninstall. For JAWS users there are scripts 
developed by Jim Grimsby and they work very well to create a very robust 
Goldwave Jaws Interface.

HTH
Rob Tabor
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Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 4:09 AM
Subject: Re: saving and playing audio books from my NLS player


Hello Jonny and all other list members,
That is not really true.
You can use Wave Pad to edit an *.mp3 file.
These days, Wave Pad comes with the lame encoder.
So yes, it gives you the options to go back to *.mp3.
I know this because, I am using the free version of Wave Pad, and I've done
it.
My best regards.
 John.
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To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 2:18 AM
Subject: Re: saving and playing audio books from my NLS player


I would use mp3 direct cut, not wave pad because
wave pad or any other editor takes the *.mp3 and
makes it a *.wav file again, so you need to
re-encode. Mp3 direct cut handles the mp3
directly. Do your editing in studio recorder or
your favorite sound editor before making the *.mp3 files.
on Friday 4/30/2010 01:12 AM, JOHNNY CHILELLI said:

Hi Curtis,

May I please ask you if you know how to break up a single mp3 file
by permanent track markers using a program like Wave Pad?  Do you recommend 
another simpler, more accessible, oh and yes not to expensive product for 
doing this?


Thanks,

Johnny Chilelli

j...@neo.rr.com



On 4/30/2010 1:38 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

Of course you can save it as a *.mp3 file, just record it on your PC
using GoldWave or Studio Recorder, of course it would be 1X, and you'll
probably want to make chapter *.mp3s or some kind of markup so that you
can at least use a minimal kind of book marking, but sure, it can be
done, but not directly from the *.3gp files since they are encrypted.


Curtis Delzer.
HS.


on Thursday 4/29/2010 10:01 PM, DJ DOCTOR P said:

Hello Jim,
Your question has a 2 part answer.
There is good news, and bad news.
The good news is, yes you can save your NLS book to another pen and or
flash drive.
The bad news is, you can't save it as a usable format like *.mp3.
The people at the Bard Talk website has it encrypted so that it can't
be converted in to a standard audio file.
Hope this helps.
My best regards.
John.
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Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:43 PM
Subject: saving and playing audio books from my NLS player



Hi there Group!
Was wondering if it is posible to save a book from the NLS player to
a pin-drive
and place this book in some sort of useable format on my PC?
Something like an MP3
format..?
Much THANKS! de
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Re: saving and playing audio books from my NLS player

2010-04-30 Thread Rob Tabor
Sadly, I am compelled to agree with Matthew on this one. Finding clever 
techniques to circumvent NLS bard encryption will result in a permanent 
revocation of the NLS bard system. Don't think for one minute these lists 
are not monitored by big brother. Just a bit of unsolicited advice from one 
paranoid conspiracy theorist on The Third Rock.

best regards
Rob Tabor
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From: Matthew Bullis matthewbul...@runbox.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: saving and playing audio books from my NLS player


I should mention that manipulating the NLS content so that it can be played 
on a device not authorized for it, especially getting it into mp3 format, 
is a violation of your agreement with NLS. You need to be careful not to do 
that, and also not to give out ways and means to others. It will hurt all 
of us as patrons if users abuse the system. Apparently something like this 
happened a few years ago with the Web Braille system, and it was shut down 
for a while, with dire pronouncements that it wouldn't return. Please enjoy 
NLS content responsibly.

Matthew

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Re: streaming music

2010-04-29 Thread Rob Tabor

Good evening, Jorgen.

Thanks for the explanation of Duckstream. If I understand the concept 
correctly, I could use Duckstream to stream and archive my program content 
to a Live365 or ACBRadio or The Global Voice host server if I have a station 
or a gig on one of those online stations. Do I have it right?
BTW, I'm sorry I didn't include the umlaut marking in your first name 
because that character is not in the JFW extended character script. Is there 
a way I can add this or import umlaut symbols?

Best regards
Rob Tabor
- Original Message - 
From: Jörgen Hansson hansson.jo...@spray.se

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: streaming music


Hi rob!
Well, duckstream is not like winamp or real player. Duckstream is just a
program which helps you stream the music from winamp, WMP or realplayer to a
spesific server you have set up the actual program for. For example, let's
say that you have started a little radio station, then you set up Duckstream
to your own server with the server name, server port, password and mp3
setting etc. this program has also an archive function which lets you do a
recording of your show and if the connection should brake up, the archive
function is still going, and you can even set your own compression, if you
want some smoothness into the stream it self. you can also stream om an
shoutcast server or icecast server, depends on how you have set up the
actual server.
the sound which you're streaming from, should be coming through your sound
card which your player program is assosiated to.
hope this helps.
Regards,
Jörgen Hansson!
Tel +46 703-601296
www.jorgenhansson.com
skype: djtropical4532
- Original Message - 
From:  Rob Tabor rob.ta...@sbcglobal.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:34 AM
Subject: Re: streaming music


Good evening.
Could someone please explain what Duckstream is about and how it works? I
tried researching it online but the information about the is in Swedish and
the Google translation feature isn't very helpful. Is this similar to Winamp
or RealPlayer?
Best regards
Rob Tabor
- Original Message - 
From: Jörgen Hansson hansson.jo...@spray.se

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: streaming music


Hi tom!
yes, thanks you for telling me that, and thanks for complimenting my way of
giving away my contact there.
Yep, I understand what you mean there, I know how it is when people are
asking for files just directly to the list without contacting me directly,
even though I'm saying, pleas contact me off list. so, next time someone on
this list is asking for something from me or someone els, I suggest that
people are contacting each other off list.
so, for those who wants to contact me off list, for spesific files or so,
here's my mail address again.
hansson.jo...@spray.se
Warm regards,
Jörgen Hansson!
Tel +46 703-601296
www.jorgenhansson.com
skype: djtropical4532
- Original Message - 
From: Tom t...@pc-audio.org

To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: streaming music


Hi Jörgen,

I was complimenting you for giving several ways
people could contact you to obtain the file you
were offering.  Thank you for doing that.  You
did it the correct way.

The problem I have was that when someone on en
e-mail list offers to share a file there's always
forty or fifty people sending messages directly
to the e-mail list saying, please send it to me
too and generating unnecessary list traffic.  As
you saw, even though you gave your contact
information, there were still six or eight
requests sent to the list asking for the file.  I
just don't understand why they would do this when
you gave your e-mail address in the body of your
message where it was not at all difficult to find.

Thank you.

Tom

** Message From: Jörgen Hansson **
Hey Tom!
I'm only asking for their e-mail adresses so I
can click on their links, on
this way, I can help the people who want me to
help them off list, do you
understand? that's why I ask the people about
their addresses, so this list
should be none trafical with much cludder and such, Ok?
I know that this list is not allowing to share
files on it, that's why I
tell people to contact me off list.
Ok enough from me.


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Re: Trouble Launching Live365 Player

2010-04-29 Thread Rob Tabor

Good evening.
I promised you a follow up posting to update you on progress with finding a 
solution to enable me again to launch Live365 player without needing to hold 
down the control key, so here it is. I am happy to report that removing 5 or 
6 tool bars has done the trick, which leads me to conclude that at least one 
of them has a hidden popup blocker in its design. Having removed that many, 
I don't know which one it is, but I know if the problem reoccurs I will know 
to look for tool bars.


Unfortunately, my office laptop is a different story as I mentioned in my 
original posting. In looking again there was only an Ask tool bar whichI 
removed but it made no difference and even holding down the control key 
still doesn't launch the Live365 Player, so I'm stumped on that one. Please 
pass along any other suggestions.

BTW, thanks to Tom Kaufman for commending this solution.
Best to all
Rob Tabor
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From:  Rob Tabor rob.ta...@sbcglobal.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 6:38 PM
Subject: Trouble Launching Live365 Player



Good evening.
For the past three or four months I have been unable to launch the Live365 
player unless I hold down the control key. This works fine at home but 
does not work on my laptop at the office. I run Windows XP on both 
machines and use JAWS 9 at the office and Jaws 11 at home. It would appear 
there is a tool bar or something that may be behaving like a popup blocker 
but there is nothing obvious in the programs list. MSIE 7 popup blocker is 
turned off so I know it isn't the cause of the problem.


Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
best regards
Rob Tabor
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Re: streaming music

2010-04-28 Thread Rob Tabor

Good evening.
Could someone please explain what Duckstream is about and how it works? I 
tried researching it online but the information about the is in Swedish and 
the Google translation feature isn't very helpful. Is this similar to Winamp 
or RealPlayer?

Best regards
Rob Tabor
- Original Message - 
From: Jörgen Hansson hansson.jo...@spray.se

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: streaming music


Hi tom!
yes, thanks you for telling me that, and thanks for complimenting my way of
giving away my contact there.
Yep, I understand what you mean there, I know how it is when people are
asking for files just directly to the list without contacting me directly,
even though I'm saying, pleas contact me off list. so, next time someone on
this list is asking for something from me or someone els, I suggest that
people are contacting each other off list.
so, for those who wants to contact me off list, for spesific files or so,
here's my mail address again.
hansson.jo...@spray.se
Warm regards,
Jörgen Hansson!
Tel +46 703-601296
www.jorgenhansson.com
skype: djtropical4532
- Original Message - 
From: Tom t...@pc-audio.org

To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: streaming music


Hi Jörgen,

I was complimenting you for giving several ways
people could contact you to obtain the file you
were offering.  Thank you for doing that.  You
did it the correct way.

The problem I have was that when someone on en
e-mail list offers to share a file there's always
forty or fifty people sending messages directly
to the e-mail list saying, please send it to me
too and generating unnecessary list traffic.  As
you saw, even though you gave your contact
information, there were still six or eight
requests sent to the list asking for the file.  I
just don't understand why they would do this when
you gave your e-mail address in the body of your
message where it was not at all difficult to find.

Thank you.

Tom

** Message From: Jörgen Hansson **
Hey Tom!
I'm only asking for their e-mail adresses so I
can click on their links, on
this way, I can help the people who want me to
help them off list, do you
understand? that's why I ask the people about
their addresses, so this list
should be none trafical with much cludder and such, Ok?
I know that this list is not allowing to share
files on it, that's why I
tell people to contact me off list.
Ok enough from me.


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Re: cuing files

2010-04-28 Thread Rob Tabor

Hi, Vicky.
Cuing files simply means getting the next track ready to start playing on 
cue when the current one finishes.

HTH
Rob Tabor
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Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 8:36 PM
Subject: cuing files



Would some kind person, please explain what Cuing Files, means?

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Trouble Launching Live365 Player

2010-04-27 Thread Rob Tabor
Good evening.
For the past three or four months I have been unable to launch the Live365 
player unless I hold down the control key. This works fine at home but does not 
work on my laptop at the office. I run Windows XP on both machines and use JAWS 
9 at the office and Jaws 11 at home. It would appear there is a tool bar or 
something that may be behaving like a popup blocker but there is nothing 
obvious in the programs list. MSIE 7 popup blocker is turned off so I know it 
isn't the cause of the problem.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
best regards
Rob Tabor
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Re: Trouble Launching Live365 Player

2010-04-27 Thread Rob Tabor

Thanks, Tom.
I'll definitely take the tool bar terminator challenge and just dump them 
all as I likewise see no benefit to having them. I thought I had recalled 
getting rid of the Ask tool bar and perhaps another one but i'm getting rid 
of any lurking tool bars. I'll report back either way.

Best regards
Rob Tabor
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: Trouble Launching Live365 Player


Rob:  I'd double-check and make sure you don't have some kind of a tool 
bar there (I always say tool bars just don't do any good!  If I 
accidentally get one (and I find out about it)..I get rid of them as soon 
as I can!

Tom Kaufman

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Re: Selecting Songs In ITunes

2010-04-25 Thread Rob Tabor

Good evening, list.
Has anyone tried using the control key with the up and down arrow keys to 
select non-contiguous music or other audio files? In Windows Explorer you 
hit the space bar to select the item from the list box while holding down 
the control key. Your selected items can be verified in JAWS by pressing 
jawskey+ctrl+shift+down arrow. I'll leave it to others to describe how 
verifying selected items is done in WindowEyes, NVDA, and System Access, but 
I suspect this is done in the ways that are customary for these screen 
readers.

Hope this helps
Rob Tabor
- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Lloyd kevin.llo...@sky.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: Selecting Songs In ITunes


You can select a set of contiguous tracks in the same way as you would in 
windows explorer by using shift with up or down arrows.  Non-contiguous 
selection is more problemmatic and I haven't managed to do this using Jaws 
11 and Itunes 8.1.  May be easier with later versions of Itunes or the 
JTunes scripts but haven't really felt the need to upgrade or pay the 
additional cost for the scripts.


Regards.

Kevin Lloyd
E-mail: kevin.llo...@sky.com
- Original Message - 
From: Brian Hansen bc.hanse...@mchsi.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 1:23 AM
Subject: Selecting Songs In ITunes



How does one go about selecting songs in ITunes?  I haven't been able to
figure out how to select a group of continuous songs i.e.. one after
another, or non-continuous songs.  The help file isn't clear, and there
doesn't seem to be any type of help for JFW 11 and ITunes in the popular
applications section.  It would be nice to be able to make my selections 
at

once, instead of having to go a song at a time.

Blessings,

Brian

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Re: bit rate and sample rate

2010-04-25 Thread Rob Tabor

Hello.
I run my audio at 44.1 KHz, but what bit rate would you all advise to 
produce CD quality for a voice and music mix, such as a voiceover promo?

Rob Tabor
- Original Message - 
From: Judy W ju...@austin.rr.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 4:28 PM
Subject: RE: bit rate and sample rate



Hi,

for speech I would suggest 44.1 and 64 kbps. If it is a performance, sound
seeing tour, or historical event I would consider either 96 or 128 for
speech only. This does not apply to the earlier posts on music and cd
quality.

Judy


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On Behalf Of Richard Claypool
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 3:12 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: bit rate and sample rate

Hi,

I have no idea where you pulled this info, but a cd is not 128kbps. 
that's

the min you'd want to use, but I'd suggest 192kbps.  If you want lossless
i.e. cd sounding recordings, use flac.
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From: brandon armstrong stunners...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: bit rate and sample rate


if you want to make decent recordings, your sample rate should be 44.1 
for


cd quality and your bit rate or the rate that data is processed per 
second



should be at 128 kbps or killabites per second.
that's the quality of most cd recordings.
Brandon
On Apr 25, 2010, at 2:59 PM, Joe wrote:

Here's an interesting question. I've experimented with a lot of 
different



bit rates and sample rates doing voice recordings but still don't know
what combination of the two give good enough quality for speech. I know
you need higher rates for music, at least 128KBPS. I'm only talking 
about



voice recordings using a mic at this point. What combination of bit and
sample rate will take the least space and give me fair quality speech
audio. What should be higher. The bit rate, or the sample rate. I'm
talking about MP 3 files. I'd like to get a better understanding of 
this.



Thanks in advance. Joe.
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Re: bit rate and sample rate

2010-04-25 Thread Rob Tabor

Good evening.
I use Lame MP3 encoder which seems to capture good fidelity. Is there an MP3 
codec that produces higher audio fidelity?

Rob Tabor
- Original Message - 
From: Richard Claypool bellevue@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: bit rate and sample rate


One thing I'll add to this.  if it's speach, go 64k mono, not stereo. 
when you take a file, and make it stereo, you have to put twice as much 
data into the same size file, guess what gets crunched?  that's right, 
quality.  for a drastic sample of this effect, ri9p a file at 24k mono, 
and then at 24k stereo.


Pet pieve, people who rip books at 64k stereo.  Plus, not all encoders are 
equil.


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From: Judy W ju...@austin.rr.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 5:28 PM
Subject: RE: bit rate and sample rate



Hi,

for speech I would suggest 44.1 and 64 kbps. If it is a performance, 
sound

seeing tour, or historical event I would consider either 96 or 128 for
speech only. This does not apply to the earlier posts on music and cd
quality.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Richard Claypool
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 3:12 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: bit rate and sample rate

Hi,

I have no idea where you pulled this info, but a cd is not 128kbps. 
that's

the min you'd want to use, but I'd suggest 192kbps.  If you want lossless
i.e. cd sounding recordings, use flac.
Ave Rickamus
twitter
http://twitter.com/elheme
msn
bellevue@gmail.com
skype
lord_of_beer
last fm
http://www.last.fm/user/lord_of_beer

- Original Message -
From: brandon armstrong stunners...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: bit rate and sample rate


if you want to make decent recordings, your sample rate should be 44.1 
for


cd quality and your bit rate or the rate that data is processed per 
second



should be at 128 kbps or killabites per second.
that's the quality of most cd recordings.
Brandon
On Apr 25, 2010, at 2:59 PM, Joe wrote:

Here's an interesting question. I've experimented with a lot of 
different



bit rates and sample rates doing voice recordings but still don't know
what combination of the two give good enough quality for speech. I know
you need higher rates for music, at least 128KBPS. I'm only talking 
about



voice recordings using a mic at this point. What combination of bit and
sample rate will take the least space and give me fair quality speech
audio. What should be higher. The bit rate, or the sample rate. I'm
talking about MP 3 files. I'd like to get a better understanding of 
this.



Thanks in advance. Joe.
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Re: Audible and Windows Media Player 12

2010-04-22 Thread Rob Tabor

Hi, Sam.
If you want to install or reinstall WMP 12  the logical place to begin would 
be to log into microsoft.com and run a sight search for Windows Media Player 
12. I have Version 11 on my home and work systems and wasn't aware that MS 
had even upgraded WMP. If WMP has in fact been upgraded this should get you 
to the link to download the update. Good luck.

HTH
Rob Tabor
- Original Message - 
From: Samuel Wilkins clevercl...@gwilkins.co.uk

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Cc: 'Technology list for the Blind and Vision Impaired' 
blindt...@blindtech-list.info

Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 12:49 PM
Subject: Audible and Windows Media Player 12



Hello, I am have just found I am unable to play Audible books in Enhanced
audio on Windows Media Player 12. I used to be able to but now I can not. 
I
tried restoring to an earlier system restore point but the earliest 
restore
point was at too later date. Whenever I try and play it, it doesn't bring 
up

the section navigation dialog which it used to. It doesn't even play
anything. It looks visually normal. It will play Format 4 files however I
have some books which don't sound good in format 4 and only really work in
enhanced audio. Audible have not been able to find a solution. I have been
look in the control panel of windows recently and am not sure whether my
tinkering has caused this to happen. I have tried uninstalling and
reinstalling Audible Manager without success. I am using Windows 7 and, as
far as I know, there is no way to download Windows Media Player 12. Does
anyone have any suggestions?

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Re: no speech after installing totalrecorder 8.1

2010-04-21 Thread Rob Tabor

Good evening, Dan and all.
There may be a conflict between JAWS and the video attributes of the wave 
form in Total Recorder. When I first began working with GoldWave JAWS would 
cause the computer to crash after about 20 minutes or so of record or 
playback. I finally resolved the problem by setting the video attributes to 
the blank position in user control preferences on the advice of Rick 
Harmon, developer and host of The Blind Geek Zone. . I have had no prior 
contact with Total Recorder but I would not be surprised if there isn't a 
very similar cause and solution for the problem. I wish you the best of luck 
as I have experienced the frustration first hand when trying to produce a 
good audio file.


Best regards
Rob Tabor
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From: dan kysor danky...@comcast.net

To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 6:41 PM
Subject: no speech after installing totalrecorder 8.1


so as soon as I did the required re-boot after installing total recording, 
now my jaws does not come up, anyone know whats going on?

Dan

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Re: External Soundcard.

2010-04-21 Thread Rob Tabor

Hi, brian.
Perhaps you will want to consider acquiring a USB or inline audio mixer 
which would give you the added benefits of an external sound card and would 
enable you to mix audio from multiple input sources such as mics, external 
CD players, and USB turntables. I haven't researched it to suggest any 
particular brands or product models but I am considering making a mixing 
board purchase in the near future. I'll be following this convo thread with 
VERY KEEN INTEREST.

take care
Rob Tabor
- Original Message - 
From: Brian Dalton brian_dal...@eircom.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 2:05 PM
Subject: External Soundcard.



Hi all,

I'm shortly hoping to make the leap to windows seven.

I do a lot of audio production and sound editing with my pc.

I am looking at obtaining a good quality external soundcard. The one I 
have been looking at is the

Creative x-fi surroundsound 5.1.
http://en.store.creative.com/products/product.aspx?catid=1pid=17751

Is anyone using this card at the moment? or can anyone suggest anything 
better which may be better suited to what i'm looking for?


Many thanks,
Brian.

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Re: Copywrite Protection and Related Issues

2010-04-20 Thread Rob Tabor

Good evening.
I shall respond to the statements below.

Audiobook sales are pretty much exactly like album sales. The publishers see
most of the revenue from it, whereas the authors get stuck with very little.
And, indeed, there are quite a few authors now who are releasing their books
online first, knowing they'll be downloaded, given away, whatever, and
knowing that'll transfer over into more direct interactions with readers.
That, in turn, will generate more revenue that goes directly to the author.
Why do you think publishers are now getting all uppity because people are
being drawn more to ebooks? They don't get as much of a kickback from
it--the author gets more of the money then. That's why you see, if you
actually bother to read about it, publishers pulling their selections from
Amazon and companies like that. If a book is good enough, people will pay
for it anyway, whether they've purchased it or not. Because, and rightly so,
authors do deserve to be compensated for the work. But they're more likely
to pay for it in methods that go directly to the author if that's the case,
and bypass the publishers entirely.

This very accurate and concisely articulated argument is exactly why the 
current business model is a slowly dying dinosaur. Whether we are talking 
about the publishing houses or the music industry as we have known it, 
technology is giving authors, song writers, and recording artists more 
options than they have ever had before. Both industries are filing law 
suits, slandering our names, and doing every trick to pull all the stops to 
protect their vested interests that grew up out of and have thrived on 
oligopolies which have held dictatorial control over deciding whose works 
are published or recorded, and the take or leave price basis for charging 
the public. Technology is the enemy of the big houses because authors, 
artists, and consumers finally have a means of fighting back.

That is why this antiquated business model is doomed to fail.

Best regards
Rob Tabor


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Re: It's Still Stealing

2010-04-20 Thread Rob Tabor
Amen and thank you, Judy. So far I have counted four people including myself 
who want to drop this thread because of its transparently acusatory 
overtones. However, copyywrite protection raises interesting issues which I 
think have been pretty thoroughly hashed and rehashed.

RT
- Original Message - 
From: Judy W ju...@austin.rr.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 12:24 PM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing




Most thinking people understand both sides of this issue and will do what
they choose to do in the end so could we please drop it!

Judy


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Frank Ventura
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 12:13 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing

Are you accusing me (or anyone else on this list) of copying books?

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Robert doc Wright
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:54 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

i am quite sure that if your library knew that you were copying whole 
books

that you borrowed from them they would address that issue with you.
- Original Message -
From: Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:42 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing



That is where you are wrong. There are many folks whom have made very
handsome profits from BARD. Those players don't just fall from the sky
you know. They cost money to make and design and that is profit for
someone. Also the very existence of BARD is, and has always, been to
provide paid positions for some very connected blind folks. Think

about

it. Why do we even need our own system of libraries? Hundreds of
thousands of local lending libraries throughout the US provide a range
of print, audio, visual, and electronic media to lend to the masses
every day without the same knee jerk concerns of copyright violation.
You can just as easily go to your local library and photocopy a book,
dub a audio tape or copy an overdrive book. Does the government think
blind folks are more predispositioned to piracy than ordinary folks,
that we need such extreme measures that the rest of our culture does
not? There is no reason why our nations infrastructure of lending
libraries could not be the venues for electronic media not just for

the

sighted but blind alike but that would take payola out of the pockets

of

quite a few blind folks now wouldn't it? Yes folks you cannot leave
profit out of this conversation, sad to say.


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher

Chaltain

Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 2:16 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing

The reason in my mind is that you are signing up for a service

provided

by
the US government. This service is free of charge, and you are

agreeing

to
it's terms when you sign up for it. The law enabling this service aims
to provide material free to the blind while protecting the rights of
the publishers. This program is intended for all blind citizens of the
US and not just those with PC's. This is not a business or profit
making venture, but is paid for by tax dollars, of which I'm a tax
payer. Your

analogies

to
Sony and Apple just don't apply. Even though we have the luxury of
keeping the books around and playing them on multiple players, it
doesn't

change

the
fact that this is a library, and we're borrowing these books.

BTW, there is no way to listen to these books on a PC. You need a

player

provided for free by the NLS or you can purchase several different

book

players.

--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com




-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:48 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing

Kevin, the point is this. Why should you, after obtaining the NLS

books,

have to go and get one of the NLS approved players just to enjoy the
privelege of being able to listen to the book while not at the

computer?

That would be like Soni putting out an album with copy protection that
limitted what you could play it on to CD players manufactured by Soni.
Soni
already tried the whole copy protection to prevent people from putting
the contents of CD's on their computers, or copying them to other
CD's. A pretty high-profile lawsuit later, they don't do that anymore.
Apple tried to say you could only put music you purchased from iTunes
on your iPod. You couldn't burn that to CD, or play it in anything
else that wasn't

either

your iPod or iTunes. Specificly, the version of iTunes on the computer
to which it was downloaded. Without getting into 

Re: It's Still Stealing

2010-04-18 Thread Rob Tabor
Here, Here! I think it's time we stop behaving like a bunch of self 
appointed vigillanties and stop these gratuitous and unsolicited theft 
accusations.

Tabor
- Original Message - 
From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing



Hello James and others,
I was accused by Tom of stealing because I make copies of CD's that my 
boss orders for his radio station.

Sometimes, he orders more CD's then we really need.
He lets us pick and choose what we want and take them home with us.
I am telling you all right out, that my boss gives us CD's.
So if he's giving them to us, then how are we stealing them from him?
And precise, everybody has taped music off the radio and movies and other 
shows off the TV using tape recorders and VCR's.
Tom, you're guilty of this too, so you don't really have anything to say 
about it.

There isn't a person on the face of this earth that hasn't done it.
People have been doing it for ages, and we are still doing it.
The only thing that has changed about it, is the digital recorders have 
pretty much replaced the analog recorders.
This day and age, you can record a song off the radio using your cell 
phone to do it.

People are doing that too as well.
I reiterate, my boss gives me the green light to do it.
I do ask!
But let the truth be told, some of my coworkers will bring in their Zoom 
and or iPod touch and load them up with music from the mane computer in 
the control room.

And the boss doesn't know they're doing it!
Their attitude is, if it's there, then why not help yourself to it?
But in and of myself, if I want something, I'll ask for it.
If I ask for it, and it is given to me, then I can't be stealing it.
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: James Homuth ja...@the-jdh.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:03 PM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing



Well, then, folks are just going to have to look for alternatives. Which
means more of that stuff you call stealing. Either way, the government 
still

gets it wrong and BARD only further proves why 20th century business
practices don't work in a 21st century industry.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell
Sent: April 18, 2010 11:52 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

But Bard is funded by Congress, not exactly the most liberal or
understanding of organizations.  If they hear from their constituants 
not

generally us, they'll pull the plug.
- Original Message -
From: James Homuth ja...@the-jdh.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing



Sure, if you believe BARD. Unfortunately, they're borrowing talking
points from the recording industry. And those talking points have been
debunked 6 ways from Sunday.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell
Sent: April 18, 2010 11:42 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

Actually, the consequences of wide spread piracy from outlets like
Bard will be the elimination of the service.
- Original Message -
From: James Homuth ja...@the-jdh.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:36 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing



Apple tried to do the exact same thing with their iTunes. They tried
limitting exactly what type of player you could put their music etc on
in the same way BARD is. The reasons that didn't work are the exact
same reasons BARD shouldn't be doing that either. If you get your
hands on something, whether you have legal access to do so or not,
you're going to want to do whatever you want with that something.
Either put it on a CD, or copy it to something smaller than your
Victor Reader, or any number of things. And if someone wants to burn
that book to a CD, or do something else with it that BARD has decided
they're not allowed to, even though they have legal access to it,
people are just going to find less legal means to do so.
Rather than prop up and defend an out of date business model, people
should be pushing companies like BARD to get caught up with the rest
of the world and actually give people a choice as to what to do with
their acquisitions.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell
Sent: April 18, 2010 11:28 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

But with Bard, you're not permitted to share and you have to qualify
for their service by being blind and having a player that they 
authroize.

There
is a specific exception in the copyright law for Bard and Bookshare
type services.
- Original Message -

Re: It's Still Stealing

2010-04-18 Thread Rob Tabor
As a believer in poetic justice, I think it's only a matter of time before 
RIAA gets its come-upance for its bullying tactics. Maybe a class action law 
suit is what it will take to put it out of business.

best regards
Rob Tabor
- Original Message - 
From: James Homuth ja...@the-jdh.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 7:32 PM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing



The RIAA is in quite a bit of hot water right now because of its legal
tactics over the last few years. Namely, sue first, intimidate second, ask
questions later. They sued a 60-year-old woman who didn't even know how to
download  music because they claimed someone from her house was 
downloading

music illegally. She was the only one who lived there, and didn't have any
kind of network or anything for anyone not living there to gain access to.
But, that didn't stop them from suing her, trying to force her to settle,
and successfully bilking her out of multiple thousand dollars. That's just
one example. Throw RIAA lawsuit into google or some other search engine
and you can probably find plenty of others. So no, I wouldn't be overly
concerned if someone from the RIAA showed up at my door, because at best
their track record has been questionable. And if just one of the things I
supposedly downloaded proves to be inaccurate, they effectively have no
case. Every day now I hear of another court case that gets tossed out
because the RIAA basicly had no leg to stand on but was kind of hoping 
their

victims would crack before that could be established. And yet, every day,
the RIAA keeps going on and on about how it's got an extremely high 
success

rate at restoring the billions upon billions of dollars stolen out of the
pockets of musicians by the wicked evil music downloaders. Because, you
know, they're just looking out for the artists after all. Nothing to do 
with

the fact they get pretty much all the money generated by CD sales anyway.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: April 18, 2010 2:38 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

The websites that allow you to download music and other copyrighted 
material
are illegal in the United States.  Many of these sites are not in the 
United

States and there have been situations where The the United States have put
blocks on these out of country websites.  The RIAA is going after people 
all

the time and arresting them and fining them for all the material they
downloaded illegally.  If you do a lot of illegal downloading you could 
well

find someone from the RIAA at your door someday.

If you pay for a CD or an MP3 song you can make as many copies of it you
wish as long as you and only you use it for yourself.  If you give a copy 
of

that CD or MP3 song to someone else then it becomes illegal.

Books from the NLS is a completely different situation.  The copyright
holder of the books gives the NLS permission to reproduce their books in a
special format.  That's why the NLS books that are on cassette are 
recorded

in order, track one, track three, track two and track four.  The idea was
that when recorded in this format the books could not be played on a
standard cassette recorder.  The NLS cassettes are also recorded at half
normal cassette speed.  This is also the reason digital books from the NLS
are in a special format.  The NLS had to insure the copyright holders of
books that they would be used only by blind people and other handicapped
people who could not read a normal print book.

Tom

** Message From: DJ DOCTOR P **
Ok, so you say, it's still stealing.
Then you tell me, why are there still some websites that lets you 
download

music and audio books without having to pay anything for it?

Yes these sites still exist, and people are downloading music and audio

books without having to pay a dime for it.

Explain that one to me, if you can!


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Re: It's Still Stealing

2010-04-18 Thread Rob Tabor
Thank you, Dane. I feell this ad nausium discussion on this tread is 
stealing my band width too. BTW, I offer a partial retraction and a 
heartfelt apology for my self appointed vigilantie posting earlier except 
for one person, and he knows who he is.

best regards
Rob tabor
- Original Message - 
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing


I don't quite know what this thread is all about as I haven't been 
following it but the subject line seems to suggest what I'm thinking, the 
thread is still stealing a lot of my band width which could be made 
useful for other interesting threads on this list smile.



On 19/04/2010, at 10:54 AM, mitchell wrote:

I never read anything that sed he was redistributing anything. I some 
times

by a new cd, and then make a coppy of it to put in my wifes truck for our
listing plusher. I have even been given a promoitinal cd from a concert, 
and
done the same thing, and the cd came up missing. So are you saying that 
if I
do this and some one gets my coppyed vershin and gets cought with I will 
be

held responsible?
Mitchell

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 5:18 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing

A few points.

Copying someone else's CD's is illegal.

If someone gives you a CD then that is not illegal.

It's my understanding that sometimes special CD's can be distributed to
broadcasters with the agreement that they not be redistributed. I 
obviously

have no idea if that's what's going on in this case.

Copying something you purchased or owned for your own personal use is not
illegal, although there's some grey area here, it's generally assumed 
that

no one will challenge the fair use laws.

Making analog copies of material broadcast on TV or radio has always been
permitted, but again, this is for your own personal use and not to be
redistributed. Obviously, this has become more problematic for publishers
with digital broadcasts and copies, although it still seems to be allowed
for personal use. Obviously, you're clearly crossing the line by
redistributing this material.


--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com




-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 3:52 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

Hello James and others,
I was accused by Tom of stealing because I make copies of CD's that my 
boss

orders for his radio station.
Sometimes, he orders more CD's then we really need.
He lets us pick and choose what we want and take them home with us.
I am telling you all right out, that my boss gives us CD's.
So if he's giving them to us, then how are we stealing them from him?
And precise, everybody has taped music off the radio and movies and other
shows off the TV using tape recorders and VCR's.
Tom, you're guilty of this too, so you don't really have anything to say
about it.
There isn't a person on the face of this earth that hasn't done it.
People have been doing it for ages, and we are still doing it.
The only thing that has changed about it, is the digital recorders have
pretty much replaced the analog recorders.
This day and age, you can record a song off the radio using your cell 
phone

to do it.
People are doing that too as well.
I reiterate, my boss gives me the green light to do it.
I do ask!
But let the truth be told, some of my coworkers will bring in their Zoom 
and

or iPod touch and load them up with music from the mane computer in the
control room.
And the boss doesn't know they're doing it!
Their attitude is, if it's there, then why not help yourself to it?
But in and of myself, if I want something, I'll ask for it.
If I ask for it, and it is given to me, then I can't be stealing it.
 John.
- Original Message -
From: James Homuth ja...@the-jdh.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:03 PM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing



Well, then, folks are just going to have to look for alternatives.
Which means more of that stuff you call stealing. Either way, the
government still gets it wrong and BARD only further proves why 20th
century business practices don't work in a 21st century industry.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell
Sent: April 18, 2010 11:52 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

But Bard is funded by Congress, not exactly the most liberal or
understanding of organizations.  If they hear from their constituants
not
generally us, they'll pull the plug.
- Original Message -
From: James Homuth ja...@the-jdh.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion

Re: It's Still Stealing

2010-04-18 Thread Rob Tabor

Hi, John.
My self appointed vigilantee statement was not directed at you, although 
it appears that way, which is the reason for my earlier apology with partial 
retraction. I too feel Tom is accusing you wrongfully of stealing 
intellectual property. I think as long as you don't sell the recordings or 
pass them indiscriminately to others, you are doing A OK.

Best regards
Rob Tabor
- Original Message - 
From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing



High Rob,
If you really want to stop it, then take it up with the one that started 
it.

Take it up with the list owner, he's the one that started it, I didn't!
 John.
- Original Message - 
From:  Rob Tabor rob.ta...@sbcglobal.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing


Here, Here! I think it's time we stop behaving like a bunch of self 
appointed vigillanties and stop these gratuitous and unsolicited theft 
accusations.

Tabor
- Original Message - 
From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing



Hello James and others,
I was accused by Tom of stealing because I make copies of CD's that my 
boss orders for his radio station.

Sometimes, he orders more CD's then we really need.
He lets us pick and choose what we want and take them home with us.
I am telling you all right out, that my boss gives us CD's.
So if he's giving them to us, then how are we stealing them from him?
And precise, everybody has taped music off the radio and movies and 
other shows off the TV using tape recorders and VCR's.
Tom, you're guilty of this too, so you don't really have anything to say 
about it.

There isn't a person on the face of this earth that hasn't done it.
People have been doing it for ages, and we are still doing it.
The only thing that has changed about it, is the digital recorders have 
pretty much replaced the analog recorders.
This day and age, you can record a song off the radio using your cell 
phone to do it.

People are doing that too as well.
I reiterate, my boss gives me the green light to do it.
I do ask!
But let the truth be told, some of my coworkers will bring in their Zoom 
and or iPod touch and load them up with music from the mane computer in 
the control room.

And the boss doesn't know they're doing it!
Their attitude is, if it's there, then why not help yourself to it?
But in and of myself, if I want something, I'll ask for it.
If I ask for it, and it is given to me, then I can't be stealing it.
 John.
- Original Message - 
From: James Homuth ja...@the-jdh.com

To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:03 PM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing


Well, then, folks are just going to have to look for alternatives. 
Which
means more of that stuff you call stealing. Either way, the government 
still

gets it wrong and BARD only further proves why 20th century business
practices don't work in a 21st century industry.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]

On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell
Sent: April 18, 2010 11:52 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

But Bard is funded by Congress, not exactly the most liberal or
understanding of organizations.  If they hear from their constituants 
not

generally us, they'll pull the plug.
- Original Message -
From: James Homuth ja...@the-jdh.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing



Sure, if you believe BARD. Unfortunately, they're borrowing talking
points from the recording industry. And those talking points have been
debunked 6 ways from Sunday.

-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell
Sent: April 18, 2010 11:42 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing

Actually, the consequences of wide spread piracy from outlets like
Bard will be the elimination of the service.
- Original Message -
From: James Homuth ja...@the-jdh.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:36 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing



Apple tried to do the exact same thing with their iTunes. They tried
limitting exactly what type of player you could put their music etc 
on

in the same way BARD is. The reasons that didn't work are the exact
same reasons BARD shouldn't be doing that either. If you get your
hands on something, whether you have legal access to do so or not,
you're going to want to do whatever you want with that something.
Either put it on a CD, or copy it to something smaller than your
Victor Reader, or any number