Re: More on ZaraRadio

2005-11-18 Thread Steve Matzura
Well folks, here's more on the events list.

There's a window on the central left of the screen that's the events
window.  Above it are some buttons which JAWS doesn't seem to be able
to label, I don't think there are any tool tips that come up for those
buttons when a mouse pointer touches them.  I was able to figure out,
just by clicking them, that the last button on the right, the fourth
one, is for opening the events list dialog.  Once you do that, it
behaves like a normal dialog does.  There are buttons at the bottom to
add, modify, or delete an event, buttons for OK and Cancel, etc.
Events are things like jingles, spots, external audio feeds or
streams.  They can be scheduled at specific times or periodically
(once every 15 minutes, etc.)  There's also a Save button to save your
event list. What I haven't figured out is the next logical step, a
rotation.  Hopefully I'll do that today.

I've also figured out that the jingles buttons are more suitable for
drop-ins than they are for jingles. Some folks like using jingles as
drop-ins, I admit to having done that once or twice in a show, it's a
matter of taste, I guess, as to how you use this particular feature.

Onward and upward.


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Re: More on ZaraRadio

2005-11-18 Thread TJ Olsen
my question is

does this  program   interface with winamp?

tj

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 Well folks, here's more on the events list.

 There's a window on the central left of the screen that's the events
 window.  Above it are some buttons which JAWS doesn't seem to be able
 to label, I don't think there are any tool tips that come up for those
 buttons when a mouse pointer touches them.  I was able to figure out,
 just by clicking them, that the last button on the right, the fourth
 one, is for opening the events list dialog.  Once you do that, it
 behaves like a normal dialog does.  There are buttons at the bottom to
 add, modify, or delete an event, buttons for OK and Cancel, etc.
 Events are things like jingles, spots, external audio feeds or
 streams.  They can be scheduled at specific times or periodically
 (once every 15 minutes, etc.)  There's also a Save button to save your
 event list. What I haven't figured out is the next logical step, a
 rotation.  Hopefully I'll do that today.

 I've also figured out that the jingles buttons are more suitable for
 drop-ins than they are for jingles. Some folks like using jingles as
 drop-ins, I admit to having done that once or twice in a show, it's a
 matter of taste, I guess, as to how you use this particular feature.

 Onward and upward.


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Re: More on ZaraRadio

2005-11-18 Thread Anders Holmberg
HellO!
Well i have been away for a while from the list but decided to go back to it 
again.
So yes i have missed it but i can search in the archives.
/Anders.
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 On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:34:56 +0100, you wrote:

What is zara radio?

 You must be new to the list or missed a posting on it from a list
 member who toldr us of the existance of this new automation system for
 Internet broadcasting.


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Re: More on ZaraRadio

2005-11-18 Thread Steve Matzura
On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:32:34 -0500, you wrote:

does this  program   interface with winamp?

I don't think so. Nowhere in the documentation does it say that Winamp
is required to be installed on your system, and there's only one
executable program in the whole directory,so I don't think Winamp is
involved at all.


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Re: More on ZaraRadio

2005-11-17 Thread Gary Wood
Hi Steve.  From what I've been hearing about this Radio, it's very 
complicated!
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Subject: More on ZaraRadio


 OK, here's some news.

 Regarding hourly time announcements, I logged into and registered
 myself with the ZaraRadio discussion board and got privs to download
 members-only stuff, like two separate packages of hourly time
 announcements.Unfortunately, they're both in Spanish, but you can get
 the idea of what's required if you listen to a couple and pay
 attention to the file naming convention.  Extract the ZIP files into
 the c:\Program Files\ZaraSoft\ZaraRadio\Time folder.  Then, go into
 ZaraRadio and you can hear the way the time announcement will sound by
 pressing h on the keyboard.

 I was wrong about one aspect of this. There is, in fact, a 00-minutes
 file. It simply says en punto, o'clock in Spanish, if you will.

 Now, about jingles. I'm having a little trouble with some of the words
 on the help page about jingles, but what I get so far is this:  At the
 bottom of the screen there are nine list boxes that currently say the
 word empty if you move your mouse cursor along the bottom edge
 there.  Next to each of those list boxes is a graphic symbol which, I
 believe, is a graphic representation of the digits 1 through 9.  This
 is based on the documentation, which, as I said, is a little sketchy
 at this point. To the right of these nine list boxes you will find the
 single digit 1 displayed.  If you click on this, you will be placed
 in, for lack of a better term, list box hell. It's a list box of ten
 items, numbered 1 through 10. According to the documentation, you can
 have up to 90 jingles loaded.  What I can't figure out is whether it's
 nine windows of ten, or ten windows of nine.  The reason I call this
 listbox hell is because once you're in it, the only way to get out
 of it that I have found is to click somewhere else on the screen,
 discounting menus and toolbar buttons.  You have to click on another
 list (list of events, list of tracks in the playlist, anything) to get
 you out of the jingles listbox mess.

 What I haven't figured out yet is the name of the jingles folder and
 the format of the filenames, if there is any such.

 More to follow.


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Re: More on ZaraRadio

2005-11-17 Thread Steve Matzura
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:34:56 +0100, you wrote:

What is zara radio?

You must be new to the list or missed a posting on it from a list
member who toldr us of the existance of this new automation system for
Internet broadcasting.


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Re: More on ZaraRadio

2005-11-17 Thread Steve Matzura
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:56:12 -0500, you wrote:

From what I've been hearing about this Radio, it's very 
complicated!

Not at all, really.  It has many of the same kinds of functions
Station Playlist has, but differently implemented and not nearly so
fancy.  Someone could run a 100% automated station very nicely with SP
Creator and ZaraRadio if they so desired.


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Re: More on ZaraRadio

2005-11-17 Thread Gary Wood
Hi Steve.  Thanks for that!
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 On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:56:12 -0500, you wrote:

From what I've been hearing about this Radio, it's very
complicated!

 Not at all, really.  It has many of the same kinds of functions
 Station Playlist has, but differently implemented and not nearly so
 fancy.  Someone could run a 100% automated station very nicely with SP
 Creator and ZaraRadio if they so desired.


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Re: More on ZaraRadio

2005-11-17 Thread Brent Harding
If it has satellite support and all that, it's probably more meant for 
commercial radio, and would probably need to be hooked up to another machine 
for actual streaming. I always wondered how stations like scott-fm recorded 
CBS off some AM station, and cut away from it at just the right time. I 
noticed that they play the de-doop tone instead of the chirp that CBS I last 
knew of had.

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 On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:56:12 -0500, you wrote:

From what I've been hearing about this Radio, it's very
complicated!

 Not at all, really.  It has many of the same kinds of functions
 Station Playlist has, but differently implemented and not nearly so
 fancy.  Someone could run a 100% automated station very nicely with SP
 Creator and ZaraRadio if they so desired.


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Re: More on ZaraRadio

2005-11-17 Thread Steve Matzura
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:37:14 -0600, you wrote:

If it has satellite support and all that, it's probably more meant for 
commercial radio, and would probably need to be hooked up to another machine 
for actual streaming. 

Not at all.  There's a plug-in section where you can specify a DSP
(Shoutcast) plug-in and be on the air right away.  As soon as I figure
out a few more things about it, I'm going to try, but the Spanish they
are using is very specialized/technical, definitely  not covered in
the Middlebury schooling I got thirty years ago.  Oh well, I'm keeping
at it, though.

I always wondered how stations like scott-fm recorded 
CBS off some AM station, and cut away from it at just the right time. I 
noticed that they play the de-doop tone instead of the chirp that CBS I last 
knew of had.

There's a dozen ways to skin the automation cat--tone-detectors,
timers, silence-detectors, all manner of things.


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Re: More on ZaraRadio

2005-11-17 Thread Brent Harding
Ah, I bet they probably detect the first chirp to know to cut out, and put 
the one they recorded in for esthetics to get it to sound like it would back 
in the Mutual News days, the last of which I heard in the late 90's before 
that station went off and since switched format and owner.

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 On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:37:14 -0600, you wrote:

If it has satellite support and all that, it's probably more meant for
commercial radio, and would probably need to be hooked up to another 
machine
for actual streaming.

 Not at all.  There's a plug-in section where you can specify a DSP
 (Shoutcast) plug-in and be on the air right away.  As soon as I figure
 out a few more things about it, I'm going to try, but the Spanish they
 are using is very specialized/technical, definitely  not covered in
 the Middlebury schooling I got thirty years ago.  Oh well, I'm keeping
 at it, though.

I always wondered how stations like scott-fm recorded
CBS off some AM station, and cut away from it at just the right time. I
noticed that they play the de-doop tone instead of the chirp that CBS I 
last
knew of had.

 There's a dozen ways to skin the automation cat--tone-detectors,
 timers, silence-detectors, all manner of things.


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More on ZaraRadio

2005-11-16 Thread Steve Matzura
OK, here's some news.

Regarding hourly time announcements, I logged into and registered
myself with the ZaraRadio discussion board and got privs to download
members-only stuff, like two separate packages of hourly time
announcements.Unfortunately, they're both in Spanish, but you can get
the idea of what's required if you listen to a couple and pay
attention to the file naming convention.  Extract the ZIP files into
the c:\Program Files\ZaraSoft\ZaraRadio\Time folder.  Then, go into
ZaraRadio and you can hear the way the time announcement will sound by
pressing h on the keyboard.

I was wrong about one aspect of this. There is, in fact, a 00-minutes
file. It simply says en punto, o'clock in Spanish, if you will.

Now, about jingles. I'm having a little trouble with some of the words
on the help page about jingles, but what I get so far is this:  At the
bottom of the screen there are nine list boxes that currently say the
word empty if you move your mouse cursor along the bottom edge
there.  Next to each of those list boxes is a graphic symbol which, I
believe, is a graphic representation of the digits 1 through 9.  This
is based on the documentation, which, as I said, is a little sketchy
at this point. To the right of these nine list boxes you will find the
single digit 1 displayed.  If you click on this, you will be placed
in, for lack of a better term, list box hell. It's a list box of ten
items, numbered 1 through 10. According to the documentation, you can
have up to 90 jingles loaded.  What I can't figure out is whether it's
nine windows of ten, or ten windows of nine.  The reason I call this
listbox hell is because once you're in it, the only way to get out
of it that I have found is to click somewhere else on the screen,
discounting menus and toolbar buttons.  You have to click on another
list (list of events, list of tracks in the playlist, anything) to get
you out of the jingles listbox mess.

What I haven't figured out yet is the name of the jingles folder and
the format of the filenames, if there is any such.

More to follow.


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Re: More on ZaraRadio

2005-11-16 Thread Steve Matzura
And now for more confusion.  It just turned 11:00 here, and my PC
played the HRS23_O.mp3file, presumably as it should. However, it did
not play the MIN00.MP3 file (which says en punto).  Not sure about
the logic behind this one, but I suspect it's an either-or
situation--either you can have _O hourly files, or you can use the 00
minute files to say o'clock.  I'll either mess with my PC clock to
force a top-of-hour condition or just wait for another hour to come
around and try it again.

This is fun! I've never done this in a foreign language before.


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Re: More on ZaraRadio

2005-11-16 Thread Steve Matzura
I neglected to clarify something a little better than I did regarding
where to extract the time announcement ('locuciones de hora') files I
downloaded from the Casarresirratea web site.  If you tell WinZIP (or
WinRAR or whatever you use) to put them into C:\Program
Files\ZaraSoft\ZaraRadio\Time like I said to do, you'll have to do a
little maintenance before you can hear them with h inside of ZaraRadio
itself.  You get a folder, called Nueva Carteta (New Folder in
Spanish) and a read-me file which you can discard.  Rename the Nueva
Carteta folder to Time, then cut it to the clipboard with CTRL/X, go
up one level, back to the ZaraRadio folder, then paste with CTRL/V and
answer Yes to the question about overwriting files and/or folders.
You are essentially replacing an empty folder with the one you just
extracted.

Enjoy.  I'm goin'a bed for now.  No more updates from me until
tomorrow.


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