RE: MZ-S in PP/Thanx, Doug!
HAR!! -Original Message- From: Alan Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 September 2002 11:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MZ-S in PP/Thanx, Doug! Has anyone seen the comparison in the August Practical Photography, between the F100, EOS 3, and the MZ-S? Admittedly, these are all top-quality cameras, but the reviewer appeared to deduct points because the MZ-S has a mere 6 metering segments, although he had to admit that the metering was very accurate. It's a pity so many people base their judgement on specifications, rather than performance, which is what actually counts. I think it was the mistake of Pentax. They should jam-pack the sensor with 20 or 30 fake segments but actually use 6 segments only for metering. This way, nobody would doubt the quality of MZ-S's metering quality. regards, Alan Chan
Re: OT: visit to Ansel Adams at 100 in London
Hi Bob, It's an interesting combination to show in the same gallery. I went with Frits a few weeks ago. I wasn't particularly familiar with Eggleston's work before. That is, I hadn't had a look at lots of his stuff all in one go. The pairing with AA worked extremely well, I think. I liked Eggleston's work a lot. I think it's more interesting than AA's. However, I was pleasantly surprised by the AA part of the show. I liked the way you can trace his development, and see old prints alongside newer ones. I still can't call myself a fan, but one thing I do think he does very well is to contrast several textures within the frame, in an abstract way. I'm thinking particularly of the 'Surf Sequence' from 1940, and the 'Frozen Lake and Cliffs' from 1932. Both of these are in his book 'Examples', which is the only book of his that I have. The 'Surf Sequence' was excellent, along with the other sequences. I've always been a fan of Ansel Adams. I was fortunate enough to visit Yosemite as a child and later a teenager, camping with friends. In those days you could just bowl up and find a pitch. These days (so they tell me) you can't even get into the valley without booking well in advance. Such is the popularity of the place. Having stood at the top of El Capitan, I can vouch for the amazing scenery g. I have a few old Adams prints from yesteryear (nothing grandiose, just poster shop stuff), one of which is a tranquil shot of an orchard made in the 50's in Santa Clara. Years later the land is full of houses, and we lived in one. The pic reminds me of those times, and the countryside around the south Bay Area. So I have a sentimental attachment to AA's work, which perhaps colours my views. The Eggleston collection left me cold. Technically, I found the quality very inconsistent. Some of the prints featured blobs and dust spots, and the contrast on one of them is appalling. Sure, one could argue that this is the way that the artist (sic) intended them to be seen, as surely he must have complete control over his work on display, no? If that is the case, then I wasn't impressed. As far as the style of work goes, there were hints of this and that. I liked the way he used limited depth of field, particularly on bright, sunny exteriors, which is quite difficult to do, as we know. But frankly they left me cold. I was interested to see the shots in the 70s in particular because that's when I was there, and I recognised the paraphernalia and street furniture of the time, but I simply felt no emotion form the pics at all. Not his fault, the poor chap! I just don't like the style. Yet when I look at Robert Frank, I see something totally different! Weird, I can't explain fully, why. In the morning we went to see the Body Worlds exhibition in Brick Lane. Not for the feint of heart, it's a very 'medical' display using real corpses, demonstrating the 'plastinisation' procedure whereby bodies and parts thereof may be preserved and displayed. Fascinating stuff though. For those interested: I can't bring myself to go to that one. I really can't see the point of it. In addition, I'm led to believe that there are some 'plastinisated' (?) children in the exhibition. I really don't see how a child could possibly give informed consent to such a thing, and I'd find it very distressing to look at. That part was very difficult to get through. There were various displays involving everything from embryos at selected stages of development, through to post-natal infants, even a woman with child in womb. That as hard enough, but there were several fetuses with severe abnormalities, including siamese twins, and that was very difficult to take in. I noticed a few women sniffling, and Alma was no exception. It was real 'lump in the throat' time. And I'm supposedly hardened to this: we often film children who are terminally ill, cancer patients etc. [Who am I kidding! I once cried so much during the interview that the tears were dripping off my specs and into the viewfinder. The hardest part was trying not to make a noise or it would have ruined the interview. At the end, all the hankies came out and we blew for England!] This area is a seperate room and can be avoided if necessary. I found the displays both fascinating and appalling at the same time. I can see the value for students of medicine and biology, but for the rest of us it appeared to be morbid curiosity. Funnily enough, I was actually underwhelmed by it, in the sense that I was expecting it to be much more shocking or somehow 'revelatory'. In fact, the displays could easily have been non-human plastic exhibits, created by model-makers. There was nothing that immediately related the items to actual humans other than this was a given from the start. Sure, it all looked like what it was supposed to, but there was no 'humanity' to the displays, that I could detect. I have filmed in operating theatres (ORs) several times,
RE: Another one bites the dust and PDML Portraits
Those are very good photographs for anyone. The fact that they were taken by an 8 (almost 9) Y.O. is nothing short of amazing. Your son does have a great eye. I'm curious, does he also have any musical talent. I took a series of aptitude tests and according to them music and photography share similar aptitudes. Congratulate him, and tell him we expect him to start submitting to the PUG VBG Hi Butch, Thanks on his behalf. Actually he does - he took viola and guitar lessons, but his trouble is he has the attention span of a gnat. I'm of the opinion that you can lead a horse to water, but you cannot *make* him drink. Accordingly, he bored of the music, and in fact I think he is not of the right temperament to be a fully dedicated musician. After all, they *are* a breed unto themselves g. I enjoy music, and self-taught myself the mandolin years ago. I'm rusty now, but can pick it up a knock a tune together. Kind regards Cotty Oh swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Re: OT: visit to Ansel Adams at 100 in London
Up? Up from whereabouts? Hi Keith, Near Oxford. Cotty Oh swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
RE: Silicon Film is still alive... (??????)
Not sure about the camera thinking it's empty. With the Z-1, you have to pull the film lip well to the right of the shutter window before the camera tries to wind it on. OTOH, I have a suspicion that this might also have something to do with the ISO recognition system... Now you got me curious. Got to check out a few things with the Z-1 when I get home from work. Jostein -- Original Message -- From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 11:19:06 +0100 Actually, you are right although I do still wonder. The 'dry- firing' I should have thought of is a good point, but will a camera 'dry- fire' with a film canister inside the camera? Surely it would try to load a film and when unable to do so, signal an error? This could be the key - how does the efilm make the camera think it is empty? Also, it would then only work with cameras that had manual ISO setting? How many entry models does this count out (not that I am worried). Frame counting is not really an issue when you can zap old frames and they are all different sizes - only memory usage left. .
Advice needed urgently
Hi all, I need guidance - how much, in dollars or Euros, does one pay for the following: 50mm/1.4 SMC M 100mm/4.0 SMC M Macro Both new and unblemished. The macro seems not to have been used at all. The normal lens may have been used, but it's impossible to be sure. These are part of a collection of lenses from an estate most of which have already been sold. I have to step lively to get them. Best, D Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002
Re: Matrix metering
Michel Carrère-Gée [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/pentax.htm Propose us to modify the MK lens to permit the matrix metering Some what consists this modification ? To enable matrix metering on cameras that have it, the lens needs to tell the camera its minimum and maximum apertures. This is achieved with a series of conductive and non-conductive contacts in the lens mount flange that short out (or do not short out) contacts in the lens mount of the camera. These are among the 7 contacts in the lower left-hand section of the lens mount of the camera which you can see when you remove the lens. One of these contacts transmits digital data from autofocus lenses and is not used for matrix metering. Another one tells the camera if the lens is set to A for shutter priority or program autoexposure; this one also has nothing to do with matrix metering. The remaining 5 contacts are where the min/max aperture data necessary for matrix metering are conveyed. On A series and later lenses, there are plastic insulators in one or more of the positions corresponding to these five contacts. If there's a plastic insulator, that contact is open. If there's no plastic insulator (bare lens mount), the corresponding contact on the camera body is shorted to ground. The pattern of which ones are grounded and which aren't tells the camera body what the maximum possible aperture is for the lens (and also what the minimum aperture is). On a 50mm f1.4 there's only one insulator and on a 400mm f5.6 there are four. A 20mm f4.0 and a 300 f4.5 both have three, but in different arrangements. This is the information that allows matrix metering to work. Basically, I drill a slight divot in the flange of the lens mount at each position that needs to be insulated, corresponding to the pattern appropriate for the lens in question. Then I put a drop of epoxy paint in the divot. It's a very simple procedure, but it requires that getting the divots in just the right locations. I've built a jig that allows me to get them exactly where they belong with a minimum of fuss. As a measure of my confidence in the procedure, the first lens I tried it out on was my K-series 15mm f3.5 and I'm very happy with how it's worked out; I find matrix metering especially useful with wide angle lenses. If you ever want to restore the lens to its original condition, all you have to do is replace the lens mount flange, which anyone can do with a couple of jewelers screwdrivers. I think the plain k-mount flange is still available from Pentax, but even if it's not there are millions of M50/2.0 lenses that can be had for a few dollars to become parts donors. You can email me dirctly, but you'll have to sign up for Hotmail or some other free email address because wanadoo.fr is blacklisted form my domain because of extensive spam problems. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photorgaphy and writing
Re: For repair techs or just tinkerers
David A. Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: I've just added the K2 service manual to my web page at http://www.robertstech.com/pentax.htm Downloading as I type. Thanks Mark... now I might be tempted to fix my shutter release button which seems to be less smooth than it used to be. A K1000 service manual will be available eventually, thanks to Alan Abbot, who helped me get one from from an eBay seller. Unfortunately, it's an all-image-file type PDF and the quality of the scans is very poor so it's taking a lot of work to turn it into anything presentable. Give it a month and I should have it on line. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photorgaphy and writing
Re: MZ-S in PP/Thanx, Doug!
- Original Message - From: Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MZ-S in PP/Thanx, Doug! I think it was the mistake of Pentax. They should jam-pack the sensor with 20 or 30 fake segments but actually use 6 segments only for metering. This way, nobody would doubt the quality of MZ-S's metering quality. Actually the review was pretty favourable for the MZ-S. They praised the slanted top plate, well-thought controls set-up, magnesium housing, built-in flash, data impinting and the ability to take virtually any Pentax K bayonet lens. They also noticed, that the camera is the cheapest of the three... The two other rivals - F100 and EOS 3 are IMHO tough ones and the latter won the whole test. However, the margin of the victory is slight, since all three models have their good points. The Practical Photography is one of few magazines that notice Pentax products and show their strengths. Its editor, Will Cheung, constantly uses two cameras - EOS 3 and Pentax 645NII. Regards Artur
Seen this eBay acution yet? ;-)
Posted in rec.photo.equipment.35mm as an example as to why it's important to crop your photos properly before putting them on the web... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1766539274 -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photorgaphy and writing
Re: MZ-S in PP/Thanx, Doug!
On Wednesday, September 18, 2002, at 05:25 AM, Alan Chan wrote: I think it was the mistake of Pentax. They should jam-pack the sensor with 20 or 30 fake segments but actually use 6 segments only for metering. This way, nobody would doubt the quality of MZ-S's metering quality. regards, Alan Chan Alan, I think you are on to something. Less is more, is a hard concept to mass market (excluding bikinis and the like, of course). Pentax could add decoy bells and whistles in the form of buttons, sliders, and thumbwheelseven, perhaps, dancing led bargraphs. Put all the crap interface elements on a removable sleeve fitting the various bodies and, viola!, cameras that appeal to clutter junkies and Pentax fans. Current Pentax fans could pop the real bodies out of the useless sleeves and make a few bucks reselling them on eBay to ravers or something. Dan Scott
FS: A28/2.8
Hi, I have added an A28/2,8 lens in excellent condition to my list of for sale items on the KMP: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/for_sale/ Cheers, Boz
Re: Advice needed urgently
KEH.com is a good guide: look at their retail prices and ask them for an instant online quote as if you were selling. I would pay anything under $100 for M50/1.4 in LN condition. Mishka -Original Message- From: Dr E D F Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 14:32:21 +0300 Subject: Advice needed urgently Hi all, I need guidance - how much, in dollars or Euros, does one pay for the following: 50mm/1.4 SMC M 100mm/4.0 SMC M Macro Both new and unblemished. The macro seems not to have been used at all. The normal lens may have been used, but it's impossible to be sure. These are part of a collection of lenses from an estate most of which have already been sold. I have to step lively to get them. Best, D Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002
KMP next Update
Hi all, I have found the time to finish up the next KMP update. Thanks to some Java programming, the lens-summary pages now display all lens products and the lens-detail pages display all variations of each lens. My next projects: - generate a list of all lens unknowns - collect the Pentax 5-digit catalog numbers Cheers, Boz -- _\\|//_ Imagination is more important than knowledge... 0(` O-O ')0 A. Einstein ===ooO=(_)=Ooo=== Bojidar D. Dimitrov author and editor, Pentax K-Mount web page [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmp.BDimitrov.de/ = __ __
NEEDED: Pentax 5-digit catalog numbers
Hi all, In order to make the KMP lens data even more complete, I would like to collect the Pentax 5-digit numbers for all lenses. These are the numbers found on the cardboard packaging boxes as well as in dealer catalogs. Please note variations of the same lens in different colors have different numbers. When submitting a 5-digit number, please be specific for which lens color it applies. The KMP now displays the few lens numbers known to me. It also displays unknown for all which I do not know. So, if you have the packaging box of a Pentax lens or a dealer catalog, please e-mail me directly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), and tell me the lens name and its 5-digit Pentax number. Thanks in advance, Boz -- _\\|//_ Imagination is more important than knowledge... 0(` O-O ')0 A. Einstein ===ooO=(_)=Ooo=== Bojidar D. Dimitrov author and editor, Pentax K-Mount web page [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmp.BDimitrov.de/ = __ __
Re: Pentax ads
This was 11/2 ago and the last SLR ad they have run. No MZ-S ad has every run! DG At 10:14 PM 9/17/02 -0400, you wrote: **Note, I tried this as an attachment but didn't think it would work, and it didn't :)** http://members.rogers.com/brad.dobo/images/Pentax.jpg Ok, this is an ad off the back cover of Outdoor Photographer March 2001. It can be argued irrelevent due to it's date, but it's still sometihng. but I have another Outdoor Photographer mag with the same ad on it, don't remember the date. It's a quick scan, did my best to keep the size down. As to commentary, It is a first class ad, one in a popular magazine, and on the back cover. However, they seem to be targeting low-end entry-level SLR market, with the ZX7. Not only that, but they put that crappy FA 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 on thereoh well, but at least they are advertisingHope this stimulates some more commentary on their methods of attracting customers. ** Brad W. Dobo, HBA (Eds.) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#: 1658
Re: OT: visit to Ansel Adams at 100 in London
Cotty and Bob wrote: ... I can't bring myself to go to that one. I really can't see the point of it. In addition, I'm led to believe that there are some 'plastinisated' (?) children in the exhibition. I really don't see how a child could possibly give informed consent to such a thing, and I'd find it very distressing to look at. That part was very difficult to get through. There were various displays involving everything ... I carefully read your and Bob's messages and went to see the link you provided. Although I can understand you interest and I don't find it particularly morbid I couldn't to it and I feel it as quite beyond the limit of decency. I mean MY point. I don't think I could stand it, really. I know some people have to study corpses in order to learn how a uman body works but I can't see the point for the average person. This, of course, doesn't imply any judgement of your morale, it's just my sensation, and I myself am a bit disconcerted by my own reaction. Go figure... I guess this expo wouldn't be possible, here. Ciao, Flavio
RE: Seen this eBay acution yet? ;-)
Mark, This could be posted on PhotoSig in exotic/nudes and get 3TU. ;) Mark Mangum -Original Message- From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 7:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Seen this eBay acution yet? ;-) Posted in rec.photo.equipment.35mm as an example as to why it's important to crop your photos properly before putting them on the web... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1766539274 -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photorgaphy and writing
Buying an LX - Hot Damn, I managed to find one
After watching a couple on ebay, I managed to find one locally: LX, Grip B, FA-1W, seems to focus to infinity alright (I've only used my k1000, never a split screen before though), and overall pretty clean, some brassing on the MLU lever, and a little loose leather corner on the back... I'm quite pleased.. Waiting for my 1st 2 rolls of velvia to dry but it looks to be dead on, even in the darkest corner of Notre Dame (available darkness anyone?) Thanks to all for the advice, I see what all the fuss is about now... Mike Y
Re: Pentax ads
dick graham wrote: This was 11/2 ago and the last SLR ad they have run. No MZ-S ad has every run! DG Actually I have seen ad of MZ-S with FA 24-90 (the one with half men-half camera) in Polish magazine Foto about 1/2 year ago. Regards Sylwek
RE: Buying an LX - Hot Damn, I managed to find one
It's the way the camera meters that pleases me the most Michael. Meters off the film plane so, even though I sometimes think I've messed up, the camera somehow knows as well and corrects for it :) Or at least it SEEMS to do this :) Maybe my LX is possessed? Keep your eye open for different screens as well - I only recently re-installed the split screen to try it out and I hated it. I much prefer the plain matte screen that has no microprism or no split. It's much easier for me to focus with. Enjoy Dave Original Message: - From: Michael Yehle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 15:07:58 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Buying an LX - Hot Damn, I managed to find one After watching a couple on ebay, I managed to find one locally: LX, Grip B, FA-1W, seems to focus to infinity alright (I've only used my k1000, never a split screen before though), and overall pretty clean, some brassing on the MLU lever, and a little loose leather corner on the back... I'm quite pleased.. Waiting for my 1st 2 rolls of velvia to dry but it looks to be dead on, even in the darkest corner of Notre Dame (available darkness anyone?) Thanks to all for the advice, I see what all the fuss is about now... Mike Y mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
OT: Vanished Monuments of St. Petersburg
This is a site with as few vintage photographs of St. Petersburg churches destroyed by Stalin, if anyone is interested. Dan
Re: Seen this eBay acution yet? ;-)
But he managed to crop the beer bottle! Posted in rec.photo.equipment.35mm as an example as to why it's important to crop your photos properly before putting them on the web... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1766539274 -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photorgaphy and writing --
Re: Matrix metering
Mark, this info would be most EXCELLENT as a web page. (hint, hint) Dan Scott On Wednesday, September 18, 2002, at 06:31 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Michel Carrère-Gée [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/pentax.htm Propose us to modify the MK lens to permit the matrix metering Some what consists this modification ? To enable matrix metering on cameras that have it, the lens needs to tell the camera its minimum and maximum apertures. This is achieved with a series of conductive and non-conductive contacts in the lens mount flange that short out (or do not short out) contacts in the lens mount of the camera. These are among the 7 contacts in the lower left-hand section of the lens mount of the camera which you can see when you remove the lens. One of these contacts transmits digital data from autofocus lenses and is not used for matrix metering. Another one tells the camera if the lens is set to A for shutter priority or program autoexposure; this one also has nothing to do with matrix metering. The remaining 5 contacts are where the min/max aperture data necessary for matrix metering are conveyed. On A series and later lenses, there are plastic insulators in one or more of the positions corresponding to these five contacts. If there's a plastic insulator, that contact is open. If there's no plastic insulator (bare lens mount), the corresponding contact on the camera body is shorted to ground. The pattern of which ones are grounded and which aren't tells the camera body what the maximum possible aperture is for the lens (and also what the minimum aperture is). On a 50mm f1.4 there's only one insulator and on a 400mm f5.6 there are four. A 20mm f4.0 and a 300 f4.5 both have three, but in different arrangements. This is the information that allows matrix metering to work. Basically, I drill a slight divot in the flange of the lens mount at each position that needs to be insulated, corresponding to the pattern appropriate for the lens in question. Then I put a drop of epoxy paint in the divot. It's a very simple procedure, but it requires that getting the divots in just the right locations. I've built a jig that allows me to get them exactly where they belong with a minimum of fuss. As a measure of my confidence in the procedure, the first lens I tried it out on was my K-series 15mm f3.5 and I'm very happy with how it's worked out; I find matrix metering especially useful with wide angle lenses. If you ever want to restore the lens to its original condition, all you have to do is replace the lens mount flange, which anyone can do with a couple of jewelers screwdrivers. I think the plain k-mount flange is still available from Pentax, but even if it's not there are millions of M50/2.0 lenses that can be had for a few dollars to become parts donors. You can email me dirctly, but you'll have to sign up for Hotmail or some other free email address because wanadoo.fr is blacklisted form my domain because of extensive spam problems. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photorgaphy and writing
Demoulder on da MZ-60
Anyone seen Amateur Photographer's review of the MZ-60? Looks like our old friend Damien REALLY does not like this one! Havent bought the mag, so not sure if his opinions are right or even truly objective or not, but skimming it the main problem seems to be the 2 segment metering - he says it is dreadful. He actually says that the ONLY reason for even considering buying this camera is if you are into astro-photography because it will take just about any lens and has a 32 MINUTE shutter speed!!! Have they made a duffer? Is 32mins a record for long shutters?
Re: Demoulder on da MZ-60
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Rob Brigham wrote: Havent bought the mag, so not sure if his opinions are right or even truly objective or not, but skimming it the main problem seems to be the 2 segment metering - he says it is dreadful. He actually says that the ONLY reason for even considering buying this camera is if you are into astro-photography because it will take just about any lens and has a 32 MINUTE shutter speed!!! But no bulb setting, nor any provision for a cable release or remote. Have they made a duffer? Yup. Horrible shutter, as well. Fire it and you'll cringe. chris
Re: Matrix metering
Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, this info would be most EXCELLENT as a web page. (hint, hint) It's all on Boz's most excellent web page already! http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/ -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photorgaphy and writing
Re: MZ-S in PP/Thanx, Doug!
Don't say cheapest say least expensive. At 01:48 PM 9/18/2002 +0200, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MZ-S in PP/Thanx, Doug! I think it was the mistake of Pentax. They should jam-pack the sensor with 20 or 30 fake segments but actually use 6 segments only for metering. This way, nobody would doubt the quality of MZ-S's metering quality. Actually the review was pretty favourable for the MZ-S. They praised the slanted top plate, well-thought controls set-up, magnesium housing, built-in flash, data impinting and the ability to take virtually any Pentax K bayonet lens. They also noticed, that the camera is the cheapest of the three... The two other rivals - F100 and EOS 3 are IMHO tough ones and the latter won the whole test. However, the margin of the victory is slight, since all three models have their good points. The Practical Photography is one of few magazines that notice Pentax products and show their strengths. Its editor, Will Cheung, constantly uses two cameras - EOS 3 and Pentax 645NII. Regards Artur
Re: Seen this eBay acution yet? ;-)
All I can say is hairy. At 08:01 AM 9/18/2002 -0400, you wrote: Posted in rec.photo.equipment.35mm as an example as to why it's important to crop your photos properly before putting them on the web... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1766539274 -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photorgaphy and writing
Re: Advice needed urgently
I need guidance - how much, in dollars or Euros, does one pay for the following: 50mm/1.4 SMC M 100mm/4.0 SMC M Macro I would say a little less than $100 USD for the M 50/1.4, assuming mint condition. I would estimate twice as much for the M 100/4 Macro, again, assuming mint condition. Just my own estimates... Fred
RE: more Photokina info
From C d'I: SLRs at Photokina Much noise currently circulating in connection with the innovations of Photokina. Some are founded, others not... C d'I sorts between information and rumours. A few days before Photokina, the rumours are rife in connection with what one will see there... of what one could see there... but also the converse - what one will not see there! Maintained by the policy the embargoes, which often transforms rumours into information, many things circulate, in particular in connection with the SLRs, which remain the flagship products of the photo market. Thus let us try to sort it out. *** Canon Eos-1 Ds It is not any more a rumour, it is fact: Canon will reveal, in Photokina, a new version of its Eos-1 D, whose name will be Eos-1 Ds. The apparatus takes again the same physical characteristics exactly as current the 1-D and, outside, it is different from it only by its logo. Under the cap, Canon placed Cmos (and not a CCD!) whose size is roughly the double of that of Eos-d60: it offers a resolution of 11,1 mégapixels on a surface of 24x36mm (23,8 X 35,8 exactly!), that is to say 4064x2704 pixels. The large advantage of Eos-1 Ds is to allow the use without restriction nor coefficient of conversion the wide-angle lenses. It is a little slower than Eos-1d, but has all the same finctions, with 3 fps for 10 successive images. This apparatus will be marketed in December and its probable price is of 10.000 euros. *** NIKON D2-x D2-h Several Internet sites announce two new Nikon D1 with, for one of them, a resolution of 14 Mpix: SORRY, BUT They ARE FALSE! Nikon will not again introduce a pro SLR before spring 2003. As for knowing what this will be, one can only speculate. As we wrote during the test of D1-x, it is obvious that engineers of Nikon work on a track: after having divided the pixels into two in the height, it remains to them to divide them into two in the width, which would enable them indeed to reach 11, even 14 Mpix if the sensor were slightly increased. But for the moment, this is only assumption. Photokina 2002 will therefore be quiet for Nikon and the immediate innovations are: - a version 3Mpix of Coolpix 2500; - probably, the availability of an UPDATE of the software of Coolpix 5000 which, inter alia improvements, would enable recording Raw files. *** MINOLTA SLR Alas, nothing again under the sun. The stand will thus be occupied by Dimâge 7Hi (alias Dimâge 9!) and the rumours of SLR with interchangeable lenses are not founded for the moment. *** CONTAX DIGITAL N There exists... and it is even on sale. A new version of its software even arrived this week. In light of the Eos-1 Ds, future prospects for this 24x36 camera are concerning because of its colossal price. *** SYSTEM PRO OLYMPUS It will undoubtedly be one of the largest information of Photokina... even if it is still about a remote project. Consortium 4/3 tries to impose its standards as regards size of sensor and bayonet (to read separate information). *** SIGMA/FOVEON SLR True alarming spectre, this SLR which was to be marketed in March and whose exit has, since, deferred 15 days in 15 days HAS NOT GIVEN UP! It will even be on one of the stands of Photokina and the visitors will be able, this time, to test it and carry true photographs! If all is well, it will be on sale in November. And, if all is well, it will be as definitely less expensive as Nikon D-100 and Canon D-60 which, since their arrival on the market, chamboulé the things. With the occasion of Photokina, Sigma reveals four new lenses which should salivate amateurs and professionals. The time when Sigma teased the large manufacturers with cheap objectives is gone: from now on, the turbulent Japanese maker seeks to innovate, as the four new lenses testify: - zoom trans-standard 28-70 mm f/2,8-4 HSZ: will be available as of October 2002 in mountings Canon, Nikon D, Minolta D, Pentax AF and sigma. - télézoom 80-400 mm f/4,5-5,6 EX OS Optical Stabilizer . Yes, you read well... 80-400 stalibilized !!! A true innovation, with two modes of stabilizations: Mode 1 (H + V) for the static subjects, mode 2 (H only) for the follow-up of subjects moving. Like the other objectives with ultrasonic motorization HSM, it authorizes the permanent final improvement of the point without disengaging of l.AF. - zoom 120-300mm F2,8 EX IF HSM is a lightweight ultra télézoom constant F2,8 and HSM. - zoom 300-800mm F5,6 EX IF HSM is an ultra télézoom with constant F5,6 and HSM. These three new EX zooms will be compatible with Canon, Nikon and... Sigma, which means that, contrary to certain rumours, the Sigma SLR is far from being buried. *** Significant: you can take all that precedes like INFORMATION SERIEUSE. It is not a question of rumours and, even if some of these infos are not yet official, they are exact.
Re: Demoulder on da MZ-60
Rob Brigham a écrit: Anyone seen Amateur Photographer's review of the MZ-60? Looks like our old friend Damien REALLY does not like this one! Havent bought the mag, so not sure if his opinions are right or even truly objective or not, but skimming it the main problem seems to be the 2 segment metering - he says it is dreadful. He actually says that the ONLY reason for even considering buying this camera is if you are into astro-photography because it will take just about any lens and has a 32 MINUTE shutter speed!!! Have they made a duffer? Is 32mins a record for long shutters? 32 minutes ??? On data sheet is 30 sec AND buld !!
RE: more Photokina info
Unfortunately still no mention on Pentax, unless that is the 'embargoes' reference... -Original Message- From: Rob Brigham Sent: 18 September 2002 16:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: more Photokina info From C d'I: SLRs at Photokina Much noise currently circulating in connection with the innovations of Photokina. Some are founded, others not... C d'I sorts between information and rumours. A few days before Photokina, the rumours are rife in connection with what one will see there... of what one could see there... but also the converse - what one will not see there! Maintained by the policy the embargoes, which often transforms rumours into information, many things circulate, in particular in connection with the SLRs, which remain the flagship products of the photo market. Thus let us try to sort it out. *** Canon Eos-1 Ds It is not any more a rumour, it is fact: Canon will reveal, in Photokina, a new version of its Eos-1 D, whose name will be Eos-1 Ds. The apparatus takes again the same physical characteristics exactly as current the 1-D and, outside, it is different from it only by its logo. Under the cap, Canon placed Cmos (and not a CCD!) whose size is roughly the double of that of Eos-d60: it offers a resolution of 11,1 mégapixels on a surface of 24x36mm (23,8 X 35,8 exactly!), that is to say 4064x2704 pixels. The large advantage of Eos-1 Ds is to allow the use without restriction nor coefficient of conversion the wide-angle lenses. It is a little slower than Eos-1d, but has all the same finctions, with 3 fps for 10 successive images. This apparatus will be marketed in December and its probable price is of 10.000 euros. *** NIKON D2-x D2-h Several Internet sites announce two new Nikon D1 with, for one of them, a resolution of 14 Mpix: SORRY, BUT They ARE FALSE! Nikon will not again introduce a pro SLR before spring 2003. As for knowing what this will be, one can only speculate. As we wrote during the test of D1-x, it is obvious that engineers of Nikon work on a track: after having divided the pixels into two in the height, it remains to them to divide them into two in the width, which would enable them indeed to reach 11, even 14 Mpix if the sensor were slightly increased. But for the moment, this is only assumption. Photokina 2002 will therefore be quiet for Nikon and the immediate innovations are: - a version 3Mpix of Coolpix 2500; - probably, the availability of an UPDATE of the software of Coolpix 5000 which, inter alia improvements, would enable recording Raw files. *** MINOLTA SLR Alas, nothing again under the sun. The stand will thus be occupied by Dimâge 7Hi (alias Dimâge 9!) and the rumours of SLR with interchangeable lenses are not founded for the moment. *** CONTAX DIGITAL N There exists... and it is even on sale. A new version of its software even arrived this week. In light of the Eos-1 Ds, future prospects for this 24x36 camera are concerning because of its colossal price. *** SYSTEM PRO OLYMPUS It will undoubtedly be one of the largest information of Photokina... even if it is still about a remote project. Consortium 4/3 tries to impose its standards as regards size of sensor and bayonet (to read separate information). *** SIGMA/FOVEON SLR True alarming spectre, this SLR which was to be marketed in March and whose exit has, since, deferred 15 days in 15 days HAS NOT GIVEN UP! It will even be on one of the stands of Photokina and the visitors will be able, this time, to test it and carry true photographs! If all is well, it will be on sale in November. And, if all is well, it will be as definitely less expensive as Nikon D-100 and Canon D-60 which, since their arrival on the market, chamboulé the things. With the occasion of Photokina, Sigma reveals four new lenses which should salivate amateurs and professionals. The time when Sigma teased the large manufacturers with cheap objectives is gone: from now on, the turbulent Japanese maker seeks to innovate, as the four new lenses testify: - zoom trans-standard 28-70 mm f/2,8-4 HSZ: will be available as of October 2002 in mountings Canon, Nikon D, Minolta D, Pentax AF and sigma. - télézoom 80-400 mm f/4,5-5,6 EX OS Optical Stabilizer . Yes, you read well... 80-400 stalibilized !!! A true innovation, with two modes of stabilizations: Mode 1 (H + V) for the static subjects, mode 2 (H only) for the follow-up of subjects moving. Like the other objectives with ultrasonic motorization HSM, it authorizes the permanent final improvement of the point without disengaging of l.AF. - zoom 120-300mm F2,8 EX IF HSM is a lightweight ultra télézoom constant F2,8 and HSM. - zoom 300-800mm F5,6 EX IF HSM is an ultra télézoom with constant F5,6 and HSM. These three new EX zooms will
Re: Demoulder on da MZ-60
Michel Carrère-Gée wrote: 32 minutes ??? On data sheet is 30 sec AND buld !! Yes it is true - MZ-60 has built in timer for exposures up to 32 minutes - something that you can buy separately for MZ-S (TS-110 cable timer) for 150 USD extra :-) Regards Sylwek
Re: KMP next Update
Bojidar Dimitrov a écrit: Hi all, I have found the time to finish up the next KMP update. Thanks to some Java programming, the lens-summary pages now display all lens products and the lens-detail pages display all variations of each lens. My next projects: - generate a list of all lens unknowns - collect the Pentax 5-digit catalog numbers Cheers, Boz You can find actual product catalog with 5 digir code: http://www.pentax.be/fr/1foto/07_prijslijst/liste_de_prix.pdf Michel
Couple of eBay auctions just started
2 auctions, mine: Tokina 300 2.8 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1382197624 Motor Drive LX http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1382196827 Cheers, Cotty Oh swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Re: Couple of eBay auctions just started
Motor Drive LX http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1382196827 Speaking of Motor Drive LX ... I was in a photo shop the other day and they had the Motor Drive setup for an LX. I had seen the rechargable battery packs for it before, but they had a mammoth beast of a battery grip which stood 6 or more inches tall and took 12 AA batteries. This things looked incredibly unwieldly. Anyone know Pentax's reasoning in building it like they did? Why not make it flat and fit to the bottom of the Motor Drive, instead of sticking out?
Re: Pentax ads
Yup, knew about the age of it. Sadly, I cannot believe no MZ-S ads were runseems foolish. - Original Message - From: dick graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:02 AM Subject: Re: Pentax ads This was 11/2 ago and the last SLR ad they have run. No MZ-S ad has every run! DG At 10:14 PM 9/17/02 -0400, you wrote: **Note, I tried this as an attachment but didn't think it would work, and it didn't :)** http://members.rogers.com/brad.dobo/images/Pentax.jpg Ok, this is an ad off the back cover of Outdoor Photographer March 2001. It can be argued irrelevent due to it's date, but it's still sometihng. but I have another Outdoor Photographer mag with the same ad on it, don't remember the date. It's a quick scan, did my best to keep the size down. As to commentary, It is a first class ad, one in a popular magazine, and on the back cover. However, they seem to be targeting low-end entry-level SLR market, with the ZX7. Not only that, but they put that crappy FA 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 on thereoh well, but at least they are advertisingHope this stimulates some more commentary on their methods of attracting customers. ** Brad W. Dobo, HBA (Eds.) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#: 1658
Re: Pentax ads
Excuse my ignorance, but what is the 'half men-half camera'? Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:11 AM Subject: Re: Pentax ads dick graham wrote: This was 11/2 ago and the last SLR ad they have run. No MZ-S ad has every run! DG Actually I have seen ad of MZ-S with FA 24-90 (the one with half men-half camera) in Polish magazine Foto about 1/2 year ago. Regards Sylwek
Re: Advice needed urgently
I got mine M50/1.4 in excelent condition for about 100 euros. In Helsinki, btw. Gasha Fred wrote: I need guidance - how much, in dollars or Euros, does one pay for the following: 50mm/1.4 SMC M 100mm/4.0 SMC M Macro I would say a little less than $100 USD for the M 50/1.4, assuming mint condition. I would estimate twice as much for the M 100/4 Macro, again, assuming mint condition. Just my own estimates...
Re: Seen this eBay acution yet? ;-)
Is he not taking the piss with the item title? Peter not my auction, although that is rapidly appearing familiar :o)
Re: Demoulder on da MZ-60
- Original Message - From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 10:05 AM Subject: Demoulder on da MZ-60 Is 32mins a record for long shutters? I know someone through the internet that lives in Sweden, he went out into heavy woods and spent the entire night (no moon) with the shutter open. I think he said it was 6-8 hours. I haven't seen the shot, but he says you get some really weird colours and patterns, and not to mention bug bites!
Re: Pentax ads
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, dick graham wrote: This was 11/2 ago and the last SLR ad they have run. No MZ-S ad has every run! DG At 10:14 PM 9/17/02 -0400, you wrote: **Note, I tried this as an attachment but didn't think it would work, and it didn't :)** http://members.rogers.com/brad.dobo/images/Pentax.jpg PhotoLife, a Canadian photography magazine, has an add for the MZ-S, or other pentax cameras every 2nd issue or so. The magazine, with Pentax are giving away a MS-S, BG-10, AF360FGZ combo as well. Aside from that, its a good magazine, it dosn't focus on equipment either like the others, its about taking pictures. - Chris -- Chris Murray /\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN http://apeman.org/ XAGAINST HTML MAIL Cell: 604.861.8307 / \/
ZX/MZ bodies and LINEAR polarizers.
Hi there, Some confusion on circular versus linear polarizers... I know that the PL is supposed to ONLY be good for manual focus, and that for AF you need a C-PL. Then, I've also read that some cameras can't meter with a PL, and require a C-PL. Well, I didn't buy a C-PL, but just a regular PL when I bought into the Cokin P system this past weekend (BH was out of the C-PL, and I wanted to take one with me to try out, as I was primarily buying it for my LF camera, I wasn't concerned at the time). I tried out the PL on my 28-70/4 yesterday, and noticed both the meter and the AF both appeared to work just fine. Now I'm completely baffled. Does anyone know if the metering will definatly be off without using the circular varient? And how did AF work correctly, then? -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
Re: ZX/MZ bodies and LINEAR polarizers.
- Original Message - From: gfen Subject: ZX/MZ bodies and LINEAR polarizers. Hi there, Some confusion on circular versus linear polarizers... Does anyone know if the metering will definatly be off without using the circular varient? And how did AF work correctly, then? Circular polarizers are recommended for cameras that have a beam splitter in them, to prevent cross polarization. I believe the only Pentax that uses a beam splitter for exposure is the LX. The AF SLRs use a beam splitter for AF operation, but not for light metering. The use of a regular polarizer may blind the AF to the point of it not working anymore (you'll know this because the AF will start to hunt), but it should not affect exposure metering, as it is still done off the focussing screen. At least I think this is how it is.. William Robb This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Pentax ads
Pentax have had full-page ads featuring the MZ-S and a PS camera in Photo Life, the Canadian photo magazine. Pat White
Re: Seen this eBay acution yet? ;-)
Posted in rec.photo.equipment.35mm as an example as to why it's important to crop your photos properly before putting them on the web... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1766539274 Focal length selection can be helpful, too. Sometimes a wide-angle is not always the best choice... ;-) Fred
Motor Drive batteries (was: Re: Couple of eBay auctions just started)
Motor Drive LX http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1382196827 Speaking of Motor Drive LX ... I was in a photo shop the other day and they had the Motor Drive setup for an LX. I had seen the rechargable battery packs for it before, but they had a mammoth beast of a battery grip which stood 6 or more inches tall and took 12 AA batteries. This things looked incredibly unwieldly. Anyone know Pentax's reasoning in building it like they did? Why not make it flat and fit to the bottom of the Motor Drive, instead of sticking out? I'll take a stab at this, but it seems pretty simple really. Basics: Basically, the Motor Drive LX ,and indeed the drive for the MX, are basically quite similar, even though far from identical. The fundamental difference is that in the LX drive, the actual motor is in the base unit itself, and so has no 'grip' part. The MX drive has the motor in a vertical grip part, and conversely the base part is much slimmer than the LX drive. This is because the MX doesn't have add-on grips like the Grip B, etc. The LX does, and it must have seemed reasonable at the time to design the drive based on this. Hence a Motor Drive MX needs only the drive and a NiCad underneath, whereas the LX needs both those, and a Grip B etc to achieve the same form. Of course, you don't *need* the Grip B... Aside from NiCad battery packs, how would you power the drive? The designers probably tossed this one over in their minds for a few sleepless nights. Viz: ' Look, you *have* to provide a cheaper alternative to full professional concepts like expensive NiCad packs. Even if only as a failsafe. So that means hardware that basic consumers can get a hold of. Like AA batteries. Fine: AA batteries - right that's the given. Now what form factor can we come up with? If we make it like the Nicad pack, IE: stick all the batteries underneath the camera, it's going to look mighty silly, in fact [due to the power requirements of a 5 fps drive] we're gonna need 12 of the mothers. If we stack 12 AAs underneath, that's going to make an AA pack about 3 or 4 inchesd tall! Won't work. Where the heck are we gonna put 12 AAs??' And then some bright spark is inspired. 'I know: we'll double it up as a ceremonial Bull Elephant Tusk. No wait - how about this: a handle, underneath?' [And so the Battery Pack MX was born. Peter at CamDir will correct me cos I think that's not entirely the right nomenclature, but probably close. Anyway, there it is. It's basically a way of shoe-horning 12 AA batteries together in a manner that doesn't make it look entirely ridiculous when attached underneath a camera. I think it was designed for the MX rather than the LX, and I'm not sure it will even attach to thje LX drive. Peter? Anyone?] What were their alternatives? 1. To have a seperate pack with cord attached to camera. The amateur market would not accept that. Pros would, and do (think external flash batteries). 2. To have a much less powerful energy source, say 4 AAs. That would give you 5 fps for, in fact, 5 frames... okay, we'll call that a winder at 2 fps instead ;-) 3. To not have an AA pack at all. I think they did pretty well considering the parameters. What gets me is this: when was that battery grip designed? And what do you see festooning the checkout at Toys R Us even today? At this rate, I would estimate that the diminutive AA battery will be still with us in another 25 years. What does that say for battery technology? (You can tell I'm in a writing mood) Cotty Oh swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Re: Pentax ads
I think Pentax has a novel marketing campaign built upon an air of mystery. At 12:40 PM 9/18/2002 -0400, you wrote: Yup, knew about the age of it. Sadly, I cannot believe no MZ-S ads were runseems foolish. - Original Message - From: dick graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:02 AM Subject: Re: Pentax ads This was 11/2 ago and the last SLR ad they have run. No MZ-S ad has every run! DG At 10:14 PM 9/17/02 -0400, you wrote: **Note, I tried this as an attachment but didn't think it would work, and it didn't :)** http://members.rogers.com/brad.dobo/images/Pentax.jpg Ok, this is an ad off the back cover of Outdoor Photographer March 2001. It can be argued irrelevent due to it's date, but it's still sometihng. but I have another Outdoor Photographer mag with the same ad on it, don't remember the date. It's a quick scan, did my best to keep the size down. As to commentary, It is a first class ad, one in a popular magazine, and on the back cover. However, they seem to be targeting low-end entry-level SLR market, with the ZX7. Not only that, but they put that crappy FA 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 on thereoh well, but at least they are advertisingHope this stimulates some more commentary on their methods of attracting customers. ** Brad W. Dobo, HBA (Eds.) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ#: 1658
RE: Long Range Zoom Advice?
Tamron MF 70-210 f3.5, outstanding optics. JCO -Original Message- From: Michael Cross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 2:41 PM To: Pentax Mail Subject: Long Range Zoom Advice? I'm looking for a high-quality consumer long zoom. I have considered the following: SMC-A 70-210 f/4 Zoom SMC-F 70-210 f/4-5.6 Autofocus would be nice, but optical performance is more important. What do you think? Any others I should consider? Thanks for the input! Michael
Re: ZX/MZ bodies and LINEAR polarizers.
There's a pretty good explanation of Polarizers and how to use them in current (Sept. 2002?) Pop Photography. The main reason I picked it up. It includes a description of the difference between Circular and Linear polarizers and how they interact with semi-silvered mirrors. I know from personal experience that the meter accuracy is adversely effected when using a linear polarizer. At 01:06 PM 9/18/2002 -0400, gfen wrote: Hi there, Some confusion on circular versus linear polarizers... I know that the PL is supposed to ONLY be good for manual focus, and that for AF you need a C-PL. Then, I've also read that some cameras can't meter with a PL, and require a C-PL. Well, I didn't buy a C-PL, but just a regular PL when I bought into the Cokin P system this past weekend (BH was out of the C-PL, and I wanted to take one with me to try out, as I was primarily buying it for my LF camera, I wasn't concerned at the time). I tried out the PL on my 28-70/4 yesterday, and noticed both the meter and the AF both appeared to work just fine. Now I'm completely baffled. Does anyone know if the metering will definatly be off without using the circular varient? And how did AF work correctly, then? -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
Re: Vintage Camera Display bases
KEH has black MXs all the time. Just VERY pricey! Some on eBay too Christian On Wednesday 18 September 2002 15:58, Malcolm Smith wrote: Fred wrote; I've spent some years trying to find a black MX! Ooh - sorry, Malcolm. I had a near-mint black MX that I sold a little less than a year ago. You'd have liked it... I've also spent some time before finally locating a beautiful black MEF body. Fred, I wish you luck in your search. I have never seen a black MX face to face, only via pictures. I would like one (notes depressing trend in accumulating cameras), but it would fit in with the LXs and the 67. Long live film cameras! Malcolm
Re: ZX/MZ bodies and LINEAR polarizers.
- Original Message - From: Peter Alling Subject: Re: ZX/MZ bodies and LINEAR polarizers. There's a pretty good explanation of Polarizers and how to use them in current (Sept. 2002?) Pop Photography. The main reason I picked it up. It includes a description of the difference between Circular and Linear polarizers and how they interact with semi-silvered mirrors. I know from personal experience that the meter accuracy is adversely effected when using a linear polarizer. Peter; Which body(ies) have you noticed wonky metring with? William Robb This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Black MXs was: Vintage Camera Display bases
Christian Skofteland wrote; KEH has black MXs all the time. Just VERY pricey! Some on eBay too Yes, I have seen them. I am now used to recommendation, as I bought my original MXs when they were just on the second hand market. I have really looked after my camera equipment - as I am sure everyone on PDML does - of course we take care of our equipment! A lot of cameras come up in stores and eBay, but you have no idea how it was treated, other than cosmetic signs if there is a photo, or what treatment it had in use. This is why I bought the LX that Cotty had for sale; knowledge he is an excellent photographer and therefore someone who looks after his equipment. Which I can assure all he most certainly did. I need that assurance again - when I have funds of course :-) Malcolm
Re: MZ-S in PP/Thanx, Doug!
The two other rivals - F100 and EOS 3 are IMHO tough ones and the latter won the whole test. However, the margin of the victory is slight, since all three models have their good points. The Practical Photography is one of few magazines that notice Pentax products and show their strengths. Its editor, Will Cheung, constantly uses two cameras - EOS 3 and Pentax 645NII. On the other hand, a Japanese magazine tested the F100, EOS3 and Minolta 9 (I think 2 years ago), EOS3 scored the worst regarding AF tracking, daylght flash metering accuracy.
Re: MZ-S in PP/Thanx, Doug!
Less is more, is a hard concept to mass market (excluding bikinis and the like, of course). No wonder 2 door cars are usually more expensive than 4 doors. :) regards, Alan Chan
Re: Pentax ads
on 18.09.02 18:42, Brad Dobo at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excuse my ignorance, but what is the 'half men-half camera'? Well the picture in advertisment is divided in two halves - left is a body of strong men (1/2 head and left arm as I remember) right half is body of MZ-S (1/2 to be exact). Regards Sylwek
Re: Long Range Zoom Advice?
I think the F should be better since it has 1 ED element. Perhaps wait till the Photokina and see if Pentax would release an FA*70-210/4ED[IF]? :) regards, Alan Chan I'm looking for a high-quality consumer long zoom. I have considered the following: SMC-A 70-210 f/4 Zoom SMC-F 70-210 f/4-5.6 Autofocus would be nice, but optical performance is more important. What do you think? Any others I should consider?
Re: ZX/MZ bodies and LINEAR polarizers.
That should have been the meter accuracy of my LX is adversely effected. I should proof read these things. At 04:37 PM 9/18/2002 -0400, I wrote: There's a pretty good explanation of Polarizers and how to use them in current (Sept. 2002?) Pop Photography. The main reason I picked it up. It includes a description of the difference between Circular and Linear polarizers and how they interact with semi-silvered mirrors. I know from personal experience that the meter accuracy is adversely effected when using a linear polarizer. At 01:06 PM 9/18/2002 -0400, gfen wrote: Hi there, Some confusion on circular versus linear polarizers... I know that the PL is supposed to ONLY be good for manual focus, and that for AF you need a C-PL. Then, I've also read that some cameras can't meter with a PL, and require a C-PL. Well, I didn't buy a C-PL, but just a regular PL when I bought into the Cokin P system this past weekend (BH was out of the C-PL, and I wanted to take one with me to try out, as I was primarily buying it for my LF camera, I wasn't concerned at the time). I tried out the PL on my 28-70/4 yesterday, and noticed both the meter and the AF both appeared to work just fine. Now I'm completely baffled. Does anyone know if the metering will definatly be off without using the circular varient? And how did AF work correctly, then? -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
Re: ZX/MZ bodies and LINEAR polarizers.
The LX bodies. See my corrected post. (I'm a bit to fast on the trigger at times). At 03:09 PM 9/18/2002 -0600, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Peter Alling Subject: Re: ZX/MZ bodies and LINEAR polarizers. There's a pretty good explanation of Polarizers and how to use them in current (Sept. 2002?) Pop Photography. The main reason I picked it up. It includes a description of the difference between Circular and Linear polarizers and how they interact with semi-silvered mirrors. I know from personal experience that the meter accuracy is adversely effected when using a linear polarizer. Peter; Which body(ies) have you noticed wonky metring with? William Robb This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Black MXs was: Vintage Camera Display bases
I'm not sure how I should take this since I've smashed a couple of cameras in my time. I really didn't mean to At 10:26 PM 9/18/2002 +0100, you wrote: Christian Skofteland wrote; KEH has black MXs all the time. Just VERY pricey! Some on eBay too Yes, I have seen them. I am now used to recommendation, as I bought my original MXs when they were just on the second hand market. I have really looked after my camera equipment - as I am sure everyone on PDML does - of course we take care of our equipment! A lot of cameras come up in stores and eBay, but you have no idea how it was treated, other than cosmetic signs if there is a photo, or what treatment it had in use. This is why I bought the LX that Cotty had for sale; knowledge he is an excellent photographer and therefore someone who looks after his equipment. Which I can assure all he most certainly did. I need that assurance again - when I have funds of course :-) Malcolm
Re: Pentax ads
Either that's just as dumb looking as it sounds or you had to see the original. At 11:52 PM 9/18/2002 +0200, you wrote: on 18.09.02 18:42, Brad Dobo at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excuse my ignorance, but what is the 'half men-half camera'? Well the picture in advertisment is divided in two halves - left is a body of strong men (1/2 head and left arm as I remember) right half is body of MZ-S (1/2 to be exact). Regards Sylwek
Re: Couple of eBay auctions just started
On 18 Sep 2002 at 12:27, Tom Sapienza wrote: Speaking of Motor Drive LX ... I was in a photo shop the other day and they had the Motor Drive setup for an LX. I had seen the rechargable battery packs for it before, but they had a mammoth beast of a battery grip which stood 6 or more inches tall and took 12 AA batteries. This things looked incredibly unwieldly. Anyone know Pentax's reasoning in building it like they did? Why not make it flat and fit to the bottom of the Motor Drive, instead of sticking out? Hi Tom, Aside from what everyone else has already noted the Battery Grip M design is older than the LX system so is really a legacy device in some respects. Why it is useful is that the LX + Motor Drive LX + Ni-Cd Battery Pack LX is quite mechanically unstable lot on a tripod in any case. So if the battery packs are separated from the Motor Drive LX using the Power Cord M then you achieve more mechanical stability and have a handy remote. In this case the Battery Grip M also offers a better remote shutter trigger than the Ni-Cd Battery Pack LX :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html
Re: Pentax ads
Ah thanks got it now :) Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 5:52 PM Subject: Re: Pentax ads on 18.09.02 18:42, Brad Dobo at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excuse my ignorance, but what is the 'half men-half camera'? Well the picture in advertisment is divided in two halves - left is a body of strong men (1/2 head and left arm as I remember) right half is body of MZ-S (1/2 to be exact). Regards Sylwek
Re: ZX/MZ bodies and LINEAR polarizers.
- Original Message - From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 6:01 PM Subject: Re: ZX/MZ bodies and LINEAR polarizers. That should have been the meter accuracy of my LX is adversely effected. I should proof read these things. Ya, before we start calling you a spammer! g
RE: Vintage Camera Display bases
Oh yeah, a black MX is a beautiful beast. It looks totally different from the chrome version. At least mine does (I couldn't help myself, sorry :))) Lukasz -Original Message- From: Malcolm Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Vintage Camera Display bases Fred wrote; I've spent some years trying to find a black MX! Ooh - sorry, Malcolm. I had a near-mint black MX that I sold a little less than a year ago. You'd have liked it... I've also spent some time before finally locating a beautiful black MEF body. Fred, I wish you luck in your search. I have never seen a black MX face to face, only via pictures. I would like one (notes depressing trend in accumulating cameras), but it would fit in with the LXs and the 67. Long live film cameras! Malcolm
RE: Vintage Camera Display bases
I passed on a Black MX body at a camera show once for $150. I've been sorry ever since JCO -Original Message- From: Lukasz Kacperczyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 7:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Vintage Camera Display bases Oh yeah, a black MX is a beautiful beast. It looks totally different from the chrome version. At least mine does (I couldn't help myself, sorry :))) Lukasz -Original Message- From: Malcolm Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Vintage Camera Display bases Fred wrote; I've spent some years trying to find a black MX! Ooh - sorry, Malcolm. I had a near-mint black MX that I sold a little less than a year ago. You'd have liked it... I've also spent some time before finally locating a beautiful black MEF body. Fred, I wish you luck in your search. I have never seen a black MX face to face, only via pictures. I would like one (notes depressing trend in accumulating cameras), but it would fit in with the LXs and the 67. Long live film cameras! Malcolm
RE: Vintage Camera Display bases
I bought mine for around $200 with M 50/1.7 and haven't regretted yet :) Lukasz -Original Message- From: J. C. O'Connell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 1:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Vintage Camera Display bases I passed on a Black MX body at a camera show once for $150. I've been sorry ever since JCO -Original Message- From: Lukasz Kacperczyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 7:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Vintage Camera Display bases Oh yeah, a black MX is a beautiful beast. It looks totally different from the chrome version. At least mine does (I couldn't help myself, sorry :))) Lukasz -Original Message- From: Malcolm Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Vintage Camera Display bases Fred wrote; I've spent some years trying to find a black MX! Ooh - sorry, Malcolm. I had a near-mint black MX that I sold a little less than a year ago. You'd have liked it... I've also spent some time before finally locating a beautiful black MEF body. Fred, I wish you luck in your search. I have never seen a black MX face to face, only via pictures. I would like one (notes depressing trend in accumulating cameras), but it would fit in with the LXs and the 67. Long live film cameras! Malcolm
RE: Vintage Camera Display bases
I understand. At one time you could buy one new for $150.00 At 07:42 PM 9/18/2002 -0400, you wrote: I passed on a Black MX body at a camera show once for $150. I've been sorry ever since JCO -Original Message- From: Lukasz Kacperczyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 7:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Vintage Camera Display bases Oh yeah, a black MX is a beautiful beast. It looks totally different from the chrome version. At least mine does (I couldn't help myself, sorry :))) Lukasz -Original Message- From: Malcolm Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 9:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Vintage Camera Display bases Fred wrote; I've spent some years trying to find a black MX! Ooh - sorry, Malcolm. I had a near-mint black MX that I sold a little less than a year ago. You'd have liked it... I've also spent some time before finally locating a beautiful black MEF body. Fred, I wish you luck in your search. I have never seen a black MX face to face, only via pictures. I would like one (notes depressing trend in accumulating cameras), but it would fit in with the LXs and the 67. Long live film cameras! Malcolm
Re: more Photokina info
That was it. All the news that's fit to print. From: Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] What about Pentax?
Brown Spotmatic?
I once had a brown Spotmatic (SP 500, actually, I think), which slipped away from me in a bad camera swap. Are the brown ones rare? Please say they are common, so I won't feel so bad about losing it (and the nice Pentax 50/f4 Macro and Viv 200/3.5 and solidly built Soligor 105 and 135 lenses that went with the set.) -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com
Re: Brown Spotmatic?
I once had a brown Spotmatic (SP 500, actually, I think), which slipped away from me in a bad camera swap. Are the brown ones rare? Please say they are common, so I won't feel so bad about losing it (and the nice Pentax 50/f4 Macro and Viv 200/3.5 and solidly built Soligor 105 and 135 lenses that went with the set.) Man, I haven't heard one person on this list say good things about trading/selling any of their old Pentax gear ... making a mental note to not make the same mistake.
Thanks Amita
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Re: Thanks Amita
you're a fun guy, bob. At 4:59 PM -07009/18/02, Robert Woerner wrote, or at least typed: Hi Amita, Thanks for the suggestion of using go.com for free email. One day later and I'm still subscribed to the list. Again, thanks, With regard, Robert Woerner -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com
Re: ZX/MZ bodies and LINEAR polarizers.
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002, Peter Alling wrote: The LX bodies. See my corrected post. (I'm a bit to fast on the trigger at times). From what William said, this is the only Pentax body to use a beam splitting meter. Ergo, I'm still good to go.. althouhg I've also read the Cokin filters also have a colour cast... Which means I won;t feel bad when I replace it with something more expensive, and definatly circular (again, as I've read that a C-PL is more effective in colour saturation). -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
SMC-A 35-105 f3.5 - Debate Continues ?
Ok.. I've just about had it :) I love this lens. BUT I'm confused by my lack of memory. Is this lens varifocal ? For one reason or another I keep thinking I DON'T have to refocus if I zoom OUT from 105 to 35. Tell me I'm wrong or right.. before I go crazy and sell this lens at a ridiculously low price :) Thanks a ton, Dave P.S. (I'm joking about selling the lens.. but tell me if I'm right or wrong on this anyway) :)
Aaron's shop
Dave Chang-Sang and I made the trek from Toronto out to Aaron's shop in Oakville tonight. It was my first time out there. Loads of fun!! I bought a 77mm red filter for my Vivitar S1 24-48 for a pretty decent price, and Dave bought a bunch of chemicals and stuff. After talking with Dave and Aaron, I think I'll definitely take the plunge and invest the few dollars necessary to start to develop my own bw negs. Seems like it'll be cheap, easy and fun. Aaron also had (on consignment) a Besseler enlarger and a Rodenstock enlarging lens, for what seemed a good price. Too bad I live in a little bachelor apartment, with no place to put an enlarger, let alone use it. Even so, it's still very tempting... Also saw some beautiful prints of Prague that Aaron took with the 6x7 on his honeymoon. Aaron has a terrific eye, and that camera really rocks, too! All in all, a good time. I'll have to make the trip out there again soon (to pick up my chemicals). regards, frank -- The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer
slightly obscure observations
1 - The AF500FTZ focus assist beam doesn't work within about 5 feet. It aims too high. 2 - The FA 45-85/4.5 focuses closer than the 75/2.8. tv
Re: Tokina [or VS1] Macro Extender w/ Other Lenses
I don't remember if I've shot any since. Just because the situation hasn't arisen where I need it. I'll tell you what, though. I'll go out and shoot some more this week and report back..asap Vic
Re: SMC-A 35-105 f3.5 - Debate Continues ?
I'm confused by my lack of memory. Is this lens varifocal ? NO!!! If it change focus while you zoom, it means the lens was serviced but something is wrong. For one reason or another I keep thinking I DON'T have to refocus if I zoom OUT from 105 to 35. True. Tell me I'm wrong or right.. before I go crazy and sell this lens at a ridiculously low price :) I once saw a bad sample which changed focus a lot as I zoomed. Even the service guy said it was very sick and wonldn't want to touch it. Btw, it's a damn complex lens to strip. regards, Alan Chan
Setting ISO on flash
I think I may have made a mistake while shooting with my AF360FGZ flash today but then again I may have been lucky. I shot quite a few frames in TTL mode then switched to Auto. At that time I realized the flash was set to ISO 400 while the film I was using was ISO 100. Of course while shooting the next frames in Auto mode I did switch the ISO setting on the flash to 100. My question is: did I do any harm while in the TTL mode or does the camera simply read the light and adjust accordingly regardless of the ISO setting on the flash? Thanks. Stephen (I'd rather be good than lucky but lucky will do in this case)
Re: Matrix metering
Mark Roberts a écrit: Michel Carrère-Gée [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.robertstech.com/pentax.htm Propose us to modify the MK lens to permit the matrix metering Some what consists this modification ? To enable matrix metering .. Thank's Mark, very fun your answer !! Bonjour de France, Michel
Re: Setting ISO on flash
i think, the whole point of ttl is that the camera, not the flash, takes care of the exposure. i think no harm was done. best, mishka - Original Message - From: Stephen Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 12:13 AM Subject: Setting ISO on flash I think I may have made a mistake while shooting with my AF360FGZ flash today but then again I may have been lucky. I shot quite a few frames in TTL mode then switched to Auto. At that time I realized the flash was set to ISO 400 while the film I was using was ISO 100. Of course while shooting the next frames in Auto mode I did switch the ISO setting on the flash to 100. My question is: did I do any harm while in the TTL mode or does the camera simply read the light and adjust accordingly regardless of the ISO setting on the flash? Thanks. Stephen (I'd rather be good than lucky but lucky will do in this case)
Re: Thanks Amita
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