Re: SMC Pentax Super Wide K-Mount Lens Poll
K17/f4 Fish-Eye FA*24/f2 IFAL I have them !! Michel
Re: SMC Pentax Super Wide K-Mount Lens Poll
This time I can actually vote for three lenses! My first choice: FA*24mm f/2: Wide, sharp fast. Second: K24 f/2.8: Wide, sharp, small light. Third: A15/3.5. Lovely lens but not as useful to me as the 24. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ (out of date)
Re: Running with bulls (semi-OT, but with pictures)
Paul Jones wrote: Heres a group question: How fast has your pentax gone? my MZ-S did 270kmh on the back of my last motorbike :) not sure what that is in miles, but its fast. Mine went about 950km/h in the overhead compartment of a 747 :) Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ (out of date)
RE: more Photkina information
Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) wrote: Care to make a little wager? I bet Pentax doesn't show any DSLR that goes on sale this year. Would anything shown at Photokina, digital or not, really be on sale by the end of this year? Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ (out of date)
WTB: FA*28-70/2.8
Hi, If any one has one of these for sale, could you email me off list at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The plug is now being pulled on Sunday :) Thanks, Paul Jones
Re: SMC Pentax Super Wide K-Mount Lens Poll
First: SMC 15/3.5 Second: SMC 18/3.5 I also like my Schneider SA 58/5.6 XL but that is for 4x5 and not SMC Pentax... I'd like to see SMC FA* 15/2.0 Limited (or 18/2.0 or 20/2.0) or something similar ;-) Antti-Pekka --- * Antti-Pekka Virjonen * Fiskarsinkatu 7 D * GSM: +358 500 789 753 * * Computec Oy Turku* FIN-20750 Turku Finland * Fax: +358 10 264 0777 *
Re: SMC Pentax Super Wide K-Mount Lens Poll
Hello JCO, What's all this K mount only stuff, why not include the screwmounts??? My fav is the 24mm F3.5 SMCT. Awesome lens with virtually zero distortion Isn't the SMCT24/f3.5 optically identical to the K24/f3.5? I deliberately chose to restrict the poll to the K-mount, and to Pentax, for the same reasons as Boz chose to restrict the KMP to it, too: 1.) It is what most interests me, 2.) Where should one stop otherwise? If one included Takumar as well as medium format as well as 3rd party lenses (all of this has been suggested) the polls would probably not any more answer the simple question: What are the best Pentax lenses in the k-mount. However, later we might have other polls, too. Arnold
Re: more Photkina information
FA117/2.5 Limited. :) Would anything shown at Photokina, digital or not, really be on sale by the end of this year?
Flash for P30 and SPII
I have a third party brand (TUMAX) AF flash for my Z1P. Could I use it with P30 and old Spotmatic SPII? Thanks. _ Weight Loss products, Herbal Viagra, and much more!http://www.VitaDepot.com _ Promote your group and strengthen ties to your members with [EMAIL PROTECTED] by Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net/?btn=tag
Re: SMC Pentax Super Wide K-Mount Lens Poll
Bruce Dayton schrieb: Arnold, Why did you leave out the fisheye zoom? Truly the most unique lens in the ultra wides from any manufacturer. Well, of course you will be able to vote for the Fish-Eye zoom, only later! If the polls continue to run as smoothly as they are now, I plan to do polls on the favourite SMC Pentax k-mount 4.) short-telephoto primes, 5.) telephoto primes, 6.) extreme-telephoto primes, 7.) short zooms, 8.) medium zooms, 9.) long zooms, 10.) Macro. Also I think about a poll on the favourite SMC Pentax dream lens, i.e. a lens that we wish that Pentax might produce in the near future. Then somebody else might pick up the thread and start polls e.g. on medium format lenses, screw mounts, 3rd party lenses etc. Enjoy polling, Arnold
RE: Dry firing (was sillycon film)
I was referring to robocameras too - MZ-30, MZ-S. In order to work out how the AF360 worked, I did a lot of 'dry-firing' of the empty camera. Jostein is most adamant his Z1 will... This is quite curious, it seems there is a real mix so I am now convinced that this thing could never be a universal solution. This kinda backs up the vapourware theory, doesn't it? -Original Message- From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 September 2002 08:49 To: Rob Brigham Subject: RE: Dry firing (was sillycon film) Hi Rob, I was in a bit of a hurry yesterday, so I was not my usual precise self 8-) I was referring generally to robocameras, not manual models. I understand that these need only to have the shutter cocked to work with a digital insert. However, my Z1-p will not fire without film. No film = deadsville. It will therefore need something to simulate the presence and movement of film before it will work with the insert. Maybe it's an exception but there might be a few upset customers mike
Re: For Sale Thursday - topical wide angle goodies
Frank I've recently got back the first few rolls taken with my Vivitar S1 3.8 24-48 zoom (I assume yours is a Series 1, Peter?), and I must say, I'm blown away by it. Absolutely. Complete with the OEM front cap. My shots are from Versailles and are nowhere on the web but I am pleasantly surprised. I am a poet I don't know it. Kind regards Peter
Re: LX 2000?
This camera is a mongrel, I'd call it the LX Chromie. The colours of the rewind knob and advance lever cap are inconsistent relative to the LX2000 or the LX Titanium. Sounds rather like the - ahem, Gold LX that was offered over here a while back by a well-known UK dealer. Hving said which, Italy is a strong country for supporting Pentax they even had their home market only special editions. Natch I cannot look the picture now for ebay is down. Kind regards Peter
Re: OT: A warning about Aaron and the Brotherhood
-Original Message- From: Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:13:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: OT: A warning about Aaron and the Brotherhood Looks like the brotherhood is not only alive and well but have started assimilating many since I saw one hapless college student ( rather attractive I may add ) succumb to the temptation. All fellow small format users take note, do not give in to the temptations of the 67 :-) You've just given one very good reason to jump right in ;) Best, Mishka
Re: OT: A warning about Aaron and the Brotherhood
Phewww.Checked the Lowepro,still only the Yashica-Mat in there :) However he did let me know thet Vistek may be getting a shipment of used MF equipment from a rental company who has gone OOB.I may have to drive by one day. Opps its starting already. Dave Begin Original Message From: Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:13:24 -0400 (EDT) To: Pentax [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: A warning about Aaron and the Brotherhood I stopped by the shop last night and you guys ( non brother hood that is ) have to be careful, he was working on the 67 logo with the words you will join us tho this may change to just join us but he has several rolls of iron on transfers and special ink. Looks like the brotherhood is not only alive and well but have started assimilating many since I saw one hapless college student ( rather attractive I may add ) succumb to the temptation. All fellow small format users take note, do not give in to the temptations of the 67 :-) __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: OT: A warning about Aaron and the Brotherhood
Actually I'm shopping for a nice 6x6 now, I just found a 6x6 neg carrier and can get a 645 as well, hummm time to get a 150mm lens for it to. --- David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phewww.Checked the Lowepro,still only the Yashica-Mat in there :) However he did let me know thet Vistek may be getting a shipment of used MF equipment from a rental company who has gone OOB.I may have to drive by one day. Opps its starting already. Dave Begin Original Message From: Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:13:24 -0400 (EDT) To: Pentax [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: A warning about Aaron and the Brotherhood I stopped by the shop last night and you guys ( non brother hood that is ) have to be careful, he was working on the 67 logo with the words you will join us tho this may change to just join us but he has several rolls of iron on transfers and special ink. Looks like the brotherhood is not only alive and well but have started assimilating many since I saw one hapless college student ( rather attractive I may add ) succumb to the temptation. All fellow small format users take note, do not give in to the temptations of the 67 :-) __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: RE: OT: A warning about Aaron and the Brotherhood
Hum.Now that you mention it David,He is selling that Cube film. Begin Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:26:06 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: OT: A warning about Aaron and the Brotherhood Why do I have a sneaking suspiscion that The Brotherhood will start getting names like: 6 of 7 MediumFormat image5of10 etc. and Aaron's store becomes like the Borg Cubes - bah.. I guess resilience is fusilli or something like that ;-) Cheers, Dave Original Message: - From: Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:13:24 -0400 (EDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: A warning about Aaron and the Brotherhood I stopped by the shop last night and you guys ( non brother hood that is ) have to be careful, he was working on the 67 logo with the words you will join us tho this may change to just join us but he has several rolls of iron on transfers and special ink. Looks like the brotherhood is not only alive and well but have started assimilating many since I saw one hapless college student ( rather attractive I may add ) succumb to the temptation. All fellow small format users take note, do not give in to the temptations of the 67 :-) __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
RE: Dry firing (was sillycon film)
Dave Mann wrote: My Z-1p will dry-fire quite happily as well. I can't quite remember if it will also fire with the back open. I measured its shutter speeds once but I don't remember if I had to do anything special to make it work. The 6x7 won't dry-fire unless I use the frame-counter trick. But thats not a robocamera :) What's the frame-counter trick? My 67 is getting sticky with use. The mirror locks up and the shutter doesn't close. It's okay again after I leave it for a week or so. Weird. I want to reproduce the trick without wasting film. tia wendy beard ottawa, canada http://www.beard-redfern.com
Re: SMCT 55/1.8
I have 3 of them.:)Its a very consitant performer.If you are looking at one to buy,its worth it.I don't think they are very expensive either. Dave Begin Original Message From: Frankie Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 04:12:45 -0700 (PDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SMCT 55/1.8 Is SMCT 55/1.8 a good lens? Spotmatic camera is always sold with it. _ Weight Loss products, Herbal Viagra, and much more! http://www.VitaDepot.com _ Promote your group and strengthen ties to your members with [EMAIL PROTECTED] by Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net/?btn=tag End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: Running with bulls (semi-OT, but with pictures)
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Paul Jones wrote: How fast has your pentax gone? my MZ-S did 270kmh on the back of my last motorbike :) not sure what that is in miles, but its fast. I can't drive, and I'm a Big Fat Guy (tm), so its only been jogged for about 50 feet before I collapse. :) -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
RE: Dry firing (was sillycon film)
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Rob Brigham wrote: I was referring to robocameras too - MZ-30, MZ-S. In order to work out how the AF360 worked, I did a lot of 'dry-firing' of the empty camera. My ZX-50 and ZX-5n will fire without film on the takeup spool, but only if there is no cannister in its section, either. If there's a film cannister loaded and a mis-loaded roll of film (ie, it didn't take on teh spool), it flashes E. If its a rewound cannister, it'll flash the full canister icon. Completely empty? Fires, no problem. I use this to irritate my girlfriend to know end by pointing a cmaera at her and holding the shutter down. She's grown used to the fact I don't have film, which tends to irk her more when she finds out I did in fact have film in it. Bwahaha! Anyways, there's my input, just in case anyone was still paying attention.. maybe you already had it, I admit I stopped reading this thread awhile ago, because teh whole Silicon Film thing is a neat concept in a doomed package. -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
Re[2]: Dry firing (was sillycon film)
iirc, with the back open, you rotate the film counter (push on it's top with your finger, and rotate) until it reaches zero. then you close the back (keeping the counter at zero). they you can dry-fire. mishka -Original Message- From: wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 09:27:11 -0600 Subject: RE: Dry firing (was sillycon film) Dave Mann wrote: My Z-1p will dry-fire quite happily as well. I can't quite remember if it will also fire with the back open. I measured its shutter speeds once but I don't remember if I had to do anything special to make it work. The 6x7 won't dry-fire unless I use the frame-counter trick. But thats not a robocamera :) What's the frame-counter trick? My 67 is getting sticky with use. The mirror locks up and the shutter doesn't close. It's okay again after I leave it for a week or so. Weird. I want to reproduce the trick without wasting film. tia wendy beard ottawa, canada http://www.beard-redfern.com
RE: Dry firing (FORGET sillycon film!!)
OK this whole issue of dry-firing or not has got me interested. I know I am a sad git! So far we have the following views: P30T will dry fire regardless of film presence or misfeeds MZ-M will dry fire regardless of film presence or misfeeds MZ-50 will only dry-fire with an empty film chamber, misfeeds or misloads lock the camera MZ-30 ditto MZ-5N ditto MZ-S ditto Z1 (p?) from Jostein - it will only fire with an empty film chamber Z1P from Mike - it wont fire without film Dave Mann - Oh yes it will as long as there is an empty film chamber! 67 will dry fire with the 'frame counter trick' Any others? The Z1/Z1P is the really interesting one!!! I also don't understand why the MZ-M would work differently to the MZ-5N??
Re: Re[2]: Dry firing (was sillycon film)
I'm not 100% on this Wendy,but is'nt that an indication of a dead or diying battery:? Dave Begin Original Message The 6x7 won't dry-fire unless I use the frame-counter trick. But thats not a robocamera :) What's the frame-counter trick? My 67 is getting sticky with use. The mirror locks up and the shutter doesn't close. It's okay again after I leave it for a week or so. Weird. I want to reproduce the trick without wasting film. tia wendy beard ottawa, canada http://www.beard-redfern.com End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: RE: Dry firing (FORGET sillycon film!!)
Rob. My SF-1 will dry fire with out film,however it will not fire with the back open. Dave Begin Original Message From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 17:09:46 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Dry firing (FORGET sillycon film!!) OK this whole issue of dry-firing or not has got me interested. I know I am a sad git! So far we have the following views: P30T will dry fire regardless of film presence or misfeeds MZ-M will dry fire regardless of film presence or misfeeds MZ-50 will only dry-fire with an empty film chamber, misfeeds or misloads lock the camera MZ-30 ditto MZ-5N ditto MZ-S ditto Z1 (p?) from Jostein - it will only fire with an empty film chamber Z1P from Mike - it wont fire without film Dave Mann - Oh yes it will as long as there is an empty film chamber! 67 will dry fire with the 'frame counter trick' Any others? The Z1/Z1P is the really interesting one!!! I also don't understand why the MZ-M would work differently to the MZ-5N?? End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: RE: Dry firing (FORGET sillycon film!!)
The MZ-M has the same film system as the other mz cameras, normally it won't fire if it sees a miss feed. THe PZ-20 also will not fire with the back open or with a missfeed. --- David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob. My SF-1 will dry fire with out film,however it will not fire with the back open. Dave Begin Original Message From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 17:09:46 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Dry firing (FORGET sillycon film!!) OK this whole issue of dry-firing or not has got me interested. I know I am a sad git! So far we have the following views: P30T will dry fire regardless of film presence or misfeeds MZ-M will dry fire regardless of film presence or misfeeds MZ-50 will only dry-fire with an empty film chamber, misfeeds or misloads lock the camera MZ-30 ditto MZ-5N ditto MZ-S ditto Z1 (p?) from Jostein - it will only fire with an empty film chamber Z1P from Mike - it wont fire without film Dave Mann - Oh yes it will as long as there is an empty film chamber! 67 will dry fire with the 'frame counter trick' Any others? The Z1/Z1P is the really interesting one!!! I also don't understand why the MZ-M would work differently to the MZ-5N?? End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
RE: Dry firing (FORGET sillycon film!!)
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Rob Brigham wrote: MZ-M will dry fire regardless of film presence or misfeeds I also don't understand why the MZ-M would work differently to the MZ-5N?? Does the -M have anything different about DX settings that the rest of the MZ series does not? -- http://www.infotainment.org The destructive character is cheerful. - Walter Benjamin
RE: Dry firing roundup
P30T will dry fire regardless of film presence or misfeeds MZ-M - Peter Alling I can deliberately mis-load the example of the ZX=M I own and it will fire and advance even though there is no film movement. Since this camera is based on ZX series I would bet that all other ZX/MZ cameras with the possible exception of the MZ-S will work the same way. MZ-M - Brendan The MZ-M has the same film system as the other mz cameras, normally it won't fire if it sees a misfeed. MZ-50 will only dry-fire with an empty film chamber, misfeeds or misloads lock the camera MZ-30 ditto MZ-5N ditto MZ-S ditto SF-1 ditto PZ-20 ditto Z1(p?) - Jostein - it will only fire with an empty film chamber Z1P - Mike - it wont fire without film Z1P - Dave Mann - Oh yes it will as long as there is an empty film chamber! 67 will dry fire with the 'frame counter trick' The Z1/Z1P and MZ-M are getting some disagreements here! But for these disagreements, I am tempted to think that all 'electronic' cameras will fire as long as the back is shut and either the chamber is empty or the film has fed successfully. Mechnical cameras don't seem to care. Just need to resolve the disagreements and see if there are any transitional cameras which wont dry fire at all. Peter Alling said that there were some which needed a cardboard insert to 'pretend' there was film loaded - any model numbers as examples? Any others?
Re: M42 or K-mount (or both) - OT
Help! I'm in a bit of a quagmire. Well, not really. I just have some spare time today so I decided to ask the group this question: Have you ever brought two different camera systems on vacation? Specifically I am referring to a Pentax K-mount system with 2 bodies, 4 lenses plus an M42 to K-mount adapter plus a Pentax screwmount body with two lenses. The purpose of bringing along the screwmount stuff is solely for BW photos plus the chance to use the lenses (35mm/f3.5 135mm/f3.5) on the K-mount body for slides and print photos. Personnally I would only bring two K bodies (instead of 2 K and 1 S): one with BW and one with colour. But I would mix screw mount lenses (with adapter) with K-mount lenses. There is a way you can have a screw mount lens lock on K-mount bodies. It needs a little machine shop job done on the adapter and the lens. I find that the screwmount lenses, even though not exactly fast, provide me quite excellent picture quality. Because of that (Asahi screwmount lenses' quality) and because of their rather low market value (I was a poor student back then) I have made two trips with SMC-Takumar lenses (28/3.5, 55/1.8 and 100/4 macro) and a MX + a Spotmatic (and later 2 MXs) and was more than pleased with their optical quality and did not bother stop-down metering and switching the 28mm and the 55mm from one body to another by unscrewing and screwing. (The 100mm was only used for special macro sessions.) Andre --
Re: Silicon Film info on DPreview...
In a message dated 20/09/02 15:52:27 GMT Daylight Time, Cotty writes: Am I sorry I sold my LX?? Of course, but not for this reason It might have been tricky to pick up a 70-200 2.8 in Pentax Mount for that money, too. A real bargain, I'd say. Kind regards Peter
Re: Dry firing (was sillycon film)
- Original Message - From: wendy beard Subject: RE: Dry firing (was sillycon film) What's the frame-counter trick? Open the back. Use the knurled wheel on the frame counter to advance the counter to or past frame one. Hold it there, and close the back. The camera will now operate the film advance and shutter. The cameras also came with a key that could be inserted into the camera to goof it into thinking the door was closed. William Robb This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: The great PDML Print-Off
- Original Message - From: Dan Scott Subject: Re: The great PDML Print-Off Hi Bill, I was off the list for awhile. What is the Print-Off? I thought it might be cool to see how other photographers printed the same negative, so I churned out 18 identical (as close as I could anyway) negatives and sent them off to various like thinking people. The plan is for the participants to each print a half dozen prints from the negative, send them to me, and I will distribute portfolios by mail back to the participants. We settled on 6 so as to allow as few overseas mailings as possible. Anyway, this was back in May or June, and it is time to get it wrapped up. I would like to get em in the mail before the Christmas postal rush. L8R Bill
Re: M42 or K-mount (or both) - OT
- Original Message - From: andre Subject: Re: M42 or K-mount (or both) - OT There is a way you can have a screw mount lens lock on K-mount bodies. It needs a little machine shop job done on the adapter and the lens. Could you expand on that please, Andre? Thanks William Robb
Re: The great PDML Print-Off
I thought it might be cool to see how other photographers printed the same negative, so I churned out 18 identical (as close as I could anyway) negatives and sent them off to various like thinking people. The plan is for the participants to each print a half dozen prints from the negative, send them to me, and I will distribute portfolios by mail back to the participants. We settled on 6 so as to allow as few overseas mailings as possible. Anyway, this was back in May or June, and it is time to get it wrapped up. I would like to get em in the mail before the Christmas postal rush. Wow, sounds pretty cool. What are the odds of the results being posted on the web somewhere? Tom
Re: The great PDML Print-Off
- Original Message - From: Tom Sapienza Subject: Re: The great PDML Print-Off Wow, sounds pretty cool. What are the odds of the results being posted on the web somewhere? No possibility at all. William Robb
Re: The great PDML Print-Off
I did my part I'm waiting to what the others did --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Dan Scott Subject: Re: The great PDML Print-Off Hi Bill, I was off the list for awhile. What is the Print-Off? I thought it might be cool to see how other photographers printed the same negative, so I churned out 18 identical (as close as I could anyway) negatives and sent them off to various like thinking people. The plan is for the participants to each print a half dozen prints from the negative, send them to me, and I will distribute portfolios by mail back to the participants. We settled on 6 so as to allow as few overseas mailings as possible. Anyway, this was back in May or June, and it is time to get it wrapped up. I would like to get em in the mail before the Christmas postal rush. L8R Bill __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: Silicon Film info on DPreview...
It's still BS. So they made a 3d rendering of their motor drive display. R Cotty wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0209/02091903siliconfilmagain.asp For some info on the (alledged) bolt-on digi for film SLRs. 'Supports *most* SLRs' it says. Am I sorry I sold my LX?? Of course, but not for this reason Cotty Oh swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at http://www.macads.co.uk/
Re: Silicon Film info on DPreview...
- Original Message - From: Ryan K. Brooks Subject: Re: Silicon Film info on DPreview... It's still BS. So they made a 3d rendering of their motor drive display. Interesting how the sensor is a 2:3 ratio, but the screen is a 4:5 ratio. William Robb
Pentax Canada, Kominek and My smc-a 35-105
For those interested (I'd think you may be if you're reading this) :) here's the latest info on the mysterious why doesn't my focus remain throughout the zoom range dilema that I'm having with my smc-a 35-105 f3.5 lens: Pentax Canada service (I went in there this morning in person - small front desk - usual literature etc and people scurrying about while 2 of them sit and do nothing but open boxes and unpack cameras for servicing) took a look at the lens. Their diagnosis? Hellicoid and rollers are gone and will need replacement but we don't have the parts and this is an old lens. I didn't think it was THAT old... checking Boz's site.. the lens was made b/w 1984 and 1989 so it's as old as 18 years and as young as 13 years - a mere baby compared to .. say.. my Pentax SL. Anyway, now it was off to test the waters at Frank's place; Kominek Camera ( http://www.kominek.com ). They're in my work neighbourhood so I dropped in and let them take a look at it. They took the lens, I should get an estimate on costs by next week Thursday/Friday as long as their Pentax guy can fix it. If they're good.. I may decide to make them my place as well (like Frank). They were very personable, which was nice, much more so than Pentax Canada - but then again, Kominek's are owned by the guy I'm talking to across from the counter. Will let you know the outcome once I hear from them. *crossing fingers* Dave mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
Re: Pentax Canada, Kominek and My smc-a 35-105
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 11:44 AM Subject: Pentax Canada, Kominek and My smc-a 35-105 For those interested (I'd think you may be if you're reading this) :) here's the latest info on the mysterious why doesn't my focus remain throughout the zoom range dilema that I'm having with my smc-a 35-105 f3.5 lens: Dave, please update us on this. Komineks is starting to sound better all the time. William Robb
Screw mount lenses locking on K bodies (how to..)
There is a way you can have a screw mount lens lock on K-mount bodies. It needs a little machine shop job done on the adapter and the lens. Could you expand on that please, Andre? Thanks William Robb I do have a page explaining it. Somewhere... The information might have been posted on the list, maybe 2 years ago. But I might have taken it from somewhere else. Yes, I think from photo.net. Maybe someone on the list have the reference at hands... But, in two words, you have to drill a little hole through the side of the K-mount adapter in order to hold the adapter in place with a little screw (that will stop against the lens thread). Then you need to drill a little hole in the bottom part of the lens, exactly where the locking pin from a K body wants to get out and lock the lens. This is probably enough for some people, but the how to was giving a trick to easily identify the second hole's location. Maybe put some chalk and see where the K-pin's mark stops. It does not really matter if you are 1 or 2 mm off on the not totally screwed side (that sounds weird...), but if the hole is too far inside the lens, you won't be able to screw the lens enough to meet the hole. I think it should be safe to drill the hole in the lens without dismantling anything. A Dremel with a high-speed bit would do the job easily I guess. I'd like to do it on my SMCT 300/4 but have sold my Dremel to a friend years ago. My repairman could do it though. Especialy good to do on lenses with stiffer focusing rings. When cold outside, you can actually unscrew the lens while focussing. The beauty of it is that you can easily take out the adapter if you have a little screwdriver. Unlike exopyed adapters. Will a lens modified like that loose or gain value? You'll know it when you sell the lens... I wouldn't do it to a mint lens. Andre --
FS: MZ-5N kit, K1000 kit, lenses
Well, it's FS Friday in my part of the world. Here are several Pentax items which I'm reluctantly putting up for sale. I am a student making the move to medium format (P67 of course!) and I just can't afford to keep two camera systems. My asking prices are based on what stuff seems to be going for on Ebay and at my local used dealer these days, feel free to make reasonable offers if you think these prices are too high. Buyer of any of these items will pay the costs of shipping and insurance from Edmonton, Canada. I've listed prices in Canadian dollars. I subscribe to the digest version of this list so it's probably best to reply off-list to my email for quicker responses ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Cheers! FOR SALE Package #1: Pentax MZ-5N camera (Canadian version of ZX-5N) Pentax-F 50mm f/1.7 lens with rubber lens hood Pentax FG battery pack for MZ-5N Pentax cable release for MZ-5N Set of 5 filters with stacking caps (Hoya circular polarizer, Hoya orange, Hoya yellow, Hoya UV, 81A warming, all 49mm) Cap for lens, body cap and Pentax strap for camera Manuals, original packaging for all but 50mm lens -Lens was purchased used, is in very good cosmetic condition, focusing a bit noisy but glass clean and works fine. MZ-5N missing rubber eyecup and small plastic bit that plugs into cable release socket when not in use. Otherwise all in excellent+ condition, purchased new a year ago. -Asking $675 CDN. Package #2: Pentax K1000 camera (Made in Japan metal body) Pentax-M 50mm f/2.0 lens with front cap and linear polarizer filter Pentax case and strap for camera -Body in excellent- condition, CLA'ed a couple of years ago, minor scratches on the bottom from tripod mounting, scratched-up plastic plug for flash sync terminal, brassing on metal lens mount. -Lens in very good condition, brassing on lens mount surfaces, cleaning mark on rear element (doesn't affect performance). -Asking $225 CDN. Item #3: Pentax-M 28mm f/2.8 lens -In excellent condition, with skylight filter and caps. -Asking $120 CDN. Item #4: Vivitar 100mm f/3.5 manual focus macro lens with matched 1:1 diopter -Extremely sharp lens, in excellent condition, with original caps and packaging. -Asking $170 CDN. Item #5: Pentax-FA 80-200mm f/4.7-5.6 lens -Nice compact zoom lens, takes a 49mm filter, in excellent+ condition, with original caps and packaging, less than a year old. -Asking $185 CDN Regards, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: The great PDML Print-Off
By this time next year,i should know my way around the DR if there is round 2. Dave Begin Original Message From: Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 13:32:30 -0400 (EDT) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The great PDML Print-Off I did my part I'm waiting to what the others did --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Dan Scott Subject: Re: The great PDML Print-Off Hi Bill, I was off the list for awhile. What is the Print-Off? I thought it might be cool to see how other photographers printed the same negative, so I churned out 18 identical (as close as I could anyway) negatives and sent them off to various like thinking people. The plan is for the participants to each print a half dozen prints from the negative, send them to me, and I will distribute portfolios by mail back to the participants. We settled on 6 so as to allow as few overseas mailings as possible. Anyway, this was back in May or June, and it is time to get it wrapped up. I would like to get em in the mail before the Christmas postal rush. L8R Bill __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: Screw mount lenses locking on K bodies (how to..)
- Original Message - From: andre Subject: Screw mount lenses locking on K bodies (how to..) There is a way you can have a screw mount lens lock on K-mount bodies. It needs a little machine shop job done on the adapter and the lens. Could you expand on that please, Andre? !--excellent description snipped-- Thanks Andre. I think even I can acomplish this. I will try it on something other than my new fisheye first though. William Robb
Re: Screw mount lenses locking on K bodies (how to..)
Thanks Andre. I think even I can acomplish this. I will try it on something other than my new fisheye first though. William Robb I was thinking... how do you make a hole that will take a screw with a Dremel? Or will we have to bring the ring to a machinist? --
Re: Screw mount lenses locking on K bodies (how to..)
- Original Message - From: andre Subject: Re: Screw mount lenses locking on K bodies (how to..) Thanks Andre. I think even I can acomplish this. I will try it on something other than my new fisheye first though. William Robb I was thinking... how do you make a hole that will take a screw with a Dremel? Or will we have to bring the ring to a machinist? I just had a look at the screw adaptor. The spring clip that is supposed to affix the adaptor to the lens is held on with a screw. The clip can be removed, and the threaded hole can then be used for a locking screw. William Robb
Re: Re: more Photkina information
From David Would anything shown at Photokina, digital or not, really be on sale by the end of this year? MOST things shown at Photokina are available within a month or two, if not immediately. If the items were to be delayed longer than that, then MOST manufacturers would wait for the PMA show. Pat Temmerman [MZ3_fella] ___ GO.com Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com
Re: Screw mount lenses locking on K bodies (how to..)
I need to get a life, I am replying to myself. That should read: The spring clip that is supposed to affix the adaptor to the body is held on with a screw. Sorry, I nead a concept checker. Bill - Original Message - From: William Robb Subject: Re: Screw mount lenses locking on K bodies (how to..) - Original Message - From: andre Subject: Re: Screw mount lenses locking on K bodies (how to..) Thanks Andre. I think even I can acomplish this. I will try it on something other than my new fisheye first though. William Robb I was thinking... how do you make a hole that will take a screw with a Dremel? Or will we have to bring the ring to a machinist? I just had a look at the screw adaptor. The spring clip that is supposed to affix the adaptor to the lens is held on with a screw. The clip can be removed, and the threaded hole can then be used for a locking screw. William Robb
Re: Re: Silicon Film info on DPreview...
According to their specs: Weight: 544 g (1.2 lb) Now THATS convenient.. Pat Temmerman [MZ3_fella] ___ GO.com Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com
Re: Screw mount lenses locking on K bodies (how to..)
Gentlemen, In addition to being a camera collector/amasser, I am a pistolsmith, and have been for over 40 years. The bane of my existence has been home-gunsmiths with Dremels! You ought to have a journeyman's license to buy one! They cut so fast, and so NOT where you want to cut, you need consummate skill with one to even approach a camera with good intentions! I've been taking apart and fixing all manner of guns, and some of them pretty intricate, but I know better than to touch a camera! So, to think of anyone working on a camera that is not massively skilled in Dremel, makes my hair stand on end! Find someone skilled with making small, precise holes in small part, accurately placed, and give the job to him! Alternatively, be prepared to replace whatever you choose to work on. For what little that may be worth! keith whaley andre wrote: Thanks Andre. I think even I can acomplish this. I will try it on something other than my new fisheye first though. William Robb I was thinking... how do you make a hole that will take a screw with a Dremel? Or will we have to bring the ring to a machinist? --
Re: Screw mount lenses locking on K bodies (how to..)
- Original Message - From: andre Subject: Re: Screw mount lenses locking on K bodies (how to..) Thanks Andre. I think even I can acomplish this. I will try it on something other than my new fisheye first though. William Robb I was thinking... how do you make a hole that will take a screw with a Dremel? Or will we have to bring the ring to a machinist? I just had a look at the screw adaptor. The spring clip that is supposed to affix the adaptor to the lens is held on with a screw. The clip can be removed, and the threaded hole can then be used for a locking screw. William Robb True, and I suppose you don't need the clip as the lens will lock otherwise. Can it be that simple? Tell us how it is when you're done. Andre --
Re[2]: Dry firing (was sillycon film)
From: David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not 100% on this Wendy,but is'nt that an indication of a dead or diying battery:? Dave That was my first thought. I put in a new one and it didn't make any difference. The battery check light on top was lighting up just fine too (it was before I changed the battery as well). Gave it a rest for a couple of weeks and it's working again. wendy beard ottawa, canada http://www.beard-redfern.com
RE: Screw mount lenses locking on K bodies (how to..)
drill and tap it of course. Small taps are cheap and easy to use. JCO -Original Message- From: andre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 2:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Screw mount lenses locking on K bodies (how to..) Thanks Andre. I think even I can acomplish this. I will try it on something other than my new fisheye first though. William Robb I was thinking... how do you make a hole that will take a screw with a Dremel? Or will we have to bring the ring to a machinist? --
Hi all :^)
Hi all Pentax users! I have joined your list finally, after watching you almost 4 years! In 1998 Fall I bought my ZX-5n as a replacement for my stolen Yashica FX-2000 super kit. And a month ago I joined MF shooters getting used Pentax 645 + 75 and 35mm lenses and very happy about it. I am Russian working in US these last years (Chicago). You can get some ideas about my photo interests/achievements here: http://www.photosight.ru/ownpage.php?authorid=2119 http://www.photocritique.net/cgi-bin/phtg?xx+GLEB+BAIDA And I hope to get your help with those questions I cannot answer myself. Best regards, Gleb Baida. _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
Re: Screw mount lenses locking on K bodies (how to..)
- Original Message - From: Keith Whaley Subject: Re: Screw mount lenses locking on K bodies (how to..) Gentlemen, In addition to being a camera collector/amasser, I am a pistolsmith, and have been for over 40 years. The bane of my existence has been home-gunsmiths with Dremels! You ought to have a journeyman's license to buy one! They cut so fast, and so NOT where you want to cut, you need consummate skill with one to even approach a camera with good intentions! I've been taking apart and fixing all manner of guns, and some of them pretty intricate, but I know better than to touch a camera! So, to think of anyone working on a camera that is not massively skilled in Dremel, makes my hair stand on end! Find someone skilled with making small, precise holes in small part, accurately placed, and give the job to him! Alternatively, be prepared to replace whatever you choose to work on. Does it count that I give my dogs very nice pedicures (peticures?) with a Dremel? Your advice is most sage. William Robb
Re: Re[2]: Dry firing (was sillycon film)
Then it works like me then:) Dave Begin Original Message From: wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 13:50:11 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re[2]: Dry firing (was sillycon film) Gave it a rest for a couple of weeks and it's working again. wendy beard ottawa, canada http://www.beard-redfern.com End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: Running with bulls (semi-OT, but with pictures)
MX, 275, 115 n/b. This will be clear to anyone from Southern Ontario. Due to riding like this, my riding career ended much sooner than I would have liked, but now I have an MZ-S and a P67. It's not all bad. Advice? If you wanna race, the track is the place. Pat White
Re: Screw mount lenses locking on K bodies (how to..)
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Keith Whaley Subject: Re: Screw mount lenses locking on K bodies (how to..) = snipped = Does it count that I give my dogs very nice pedicures (peticures?) with a Dremel? In dog heaven, maybe! ;^) Do keep in mind that a tool (cutting, gouging, and polishing especially) left in contact with the workpiece for too long, can create a LOT of heat! Your advice is most sage. William Robb Thanks... keith
e-screwup
I just went into 35mm SLRs on eBay, clicked on Pentax and got Leica. Someone has been assimilated... CRB
test No 2
Ok Rob, can you hear this TESTING 1...2...3 CAN YOU HEAR ME!!! and then tell me why the stupid mail gets through when I havn't been able to post at all for the last few weeks when I did have somthing to say, now when I am out of words the bloody thing works, its like this pentax (now I am back on topic) flash I had that only didn't work outside the repair shop
Re: please explain
I saw 2 penatx lenses I wanna buy, one is a 28-80 and the other is 80-320mm I owned the 28-80mm as part of a kit a few years back. Don't get it, it was terrible! As for the 80-320mm, it is better than the 100-300mm which was also crap (it's mount was plastic and I kept getting bits of it in my camera or on the screen. At least the 80-320 has a metal mount, and I've heard favourable things. Brad Dobo
Back in the 35mm Saddle
Since I bought my 6x7 last December, my 35mm use has been largely limited to walkarounds with my MX and 40/2.8. Tonight, however, I had to get a few incidental shots for a project I'm working on. I didn't feel like rigging up the 6x7, so I opted for the LX with motor drive, a 90/2.5 Vivitar Series 1 Macro, and the AF400T flash on a Stroboframe with a small reflector. What a joy it was to work with this setup again: TTL, motor drive convenience, that beautiful, metal barrel Series 1 lens, and a manageable overall weight. Gosh, I remember when that rig felt heavy. Paul
Re: Hi all :^)
Ditto! Mishka - Original Message - From: CBWaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 9:50 PM Subject: Re: Hi all :^) The thumbnails looked so good I was afraid my fragile ego couldn't handle viewing the full sized images for fear I might have to throw my cameras in the trash.. Cory Waters - Original Message - From: B G [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 4:09 PM Subject: Hi all :^) Hi all Pentax users! I have joined your list finally, after watching you almost 4 years! In 1998 Fall I bought my ZX-5n as a replacement for my stolen Yashica FX-2000 super kit. And a month ago I joined MF shooters getting used Pentax 645 + 75 and 35mm lenses and very happy about it. I am Russian working in US these last years (Chicago). You can get some ideas about my photo interests/achievements here: http://www.photosight.ru/ownpage.php?authorid=2119 http://www.photocritique.net/cgi-bin/phtg?xx+GLEB+BAIDA And I hope to get your help with those questions I cannot answer myself. Best regards, Gleb Baida. _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
Re: test No 2
Three strikes and you're out! :) - Original Message - From: Feroze Kistan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 4:20 PM Subject: test No 2 Ok Rob, can you hear this TESTING 1...2...3 CAN YOU HEAR ME!!! and then tell me why the stupid mail gets through when I havn't been able to post at all for the last few weeks when I did have somthing to say, now when I am out of words the bloody thing works, its like this pentax (now I am back on topic) flash I had that only didn't work outside the repair shop
Re: Screw mount lenses locking on K bodies (how to..)
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 14:18:26 -0600, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Keith Whaley Subject: Re: Screw mount lenses locking on K bodies (how to..) Gentlemen, In addition to being a camera collector/amasser, I am a pistolsmith, and have been for over 40 years. The bane of my existence has been home-gunsmiths with Dremels! You ought to have a journeyman's license to buy one! They cut so fast, and so NOT where you want to cut, you need consummate skill with one to even approach a camera with good intentions! I've been taking apart and fixing all manner of guns, and some of them pretty intricate, but I know better than to touch a camera! So, to think of anyone working on a camera that is not massively skilled in Dremel, makes my hair stand on end! Find someone skilled with making small, precise holes in small part, accurately placed, and give the job to him! Alternatively, be prepared to replace whatever you choose to work on. Does it count that I give my dogs very nice pedicures (peticures?) with a Dremel? Your advice is most sage. William Robb That's what my podiatrist uses on toenails too!!! jm
Re: Back in the 35mm Saddle
Hi Paul, Dang, I used the LX, VS1 90/2.5 and AF400T today also, I only had a winder on though :( I was taking pics of butterflies my daughter hatched from caterpillers, that we let go free. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 2:54 PM Subject: Back in the 35mm Saddle Since I bought my 6x7 last December, my 35mm use has been largely limited to walkarounds with my MX and 40/2.8. Tonight, however, I had to get a few incidental shots for a project I'm working on. I didn't feel like rigging up the 6x7, so I opted for the LX with motor drive, a 90/2.5 Vivitar Series 1 Macro, and the AF400T flash on a Stroboframe with a small reflector. What a joy it was to work with this setup again: TTL, motor drive convenience, that beautiful, metal barrel Series 1 lens, and a manageable overall weight. Gosh, I remember when that rig felt heavy. Paul
Re: SMCT 135/2.5
I'm just making a semi-educated guess, but I think you're speaking of the Takumar, and it has come in both M-42 screw mount and K-mount bayonet? That's all I can think of. If so, their performance whould be essentially identical to each other, as most bayonet SMCs are 'merely' M-42s with bayonet mounts. So I'm given to understand... Frankie Lee wrote: There are two versions of SMCT 135/2.5. Do they have the same optical performance? Thanks. I have no info on serial numbers, and don't know where to get any! :^( However, as a single point of reference, I have a 135mm, f/2.5 SMC Takumar, M-42 mount, s/n 4,961,35x, the x being the obfuscating numeric character... ;^) keith whaley
RE: Dry firing roundup
Maybe I should clarify. The film canister that allowed dry firing when the camera was incorrectly loaded was not DX coded. Does anyone else want to try the other bodies in question with non coded canisters? At 05:27 PM 9/20/2002 +0100, you wrote: P30T will dry fire regardless of film presence or misfeeds MZ-M - Peter Alling I can deliberately mis-load the example of the ZX=M I own and it will fire and advance even though there is no film movement. Since this camera is based on ZX series I would bet that all other ZX/MZ cameras with the possible exception of the MZ-S will work the same way. MZ-M - Brendan The MZ-M has the same film system as the other mz cameras, normally it won't fire if it sees a misfeed. MZ-50 will only dry-fire with an empty film chamber, misfeeds or misloads lock the camera MZ-30 ditto MZ-5N ditto MZ-S ditto SF-1 ditto PZ-20 ditto Z1(p?) - Jostein - it will only fire with an empty film chamber Z1P - Mike - it wont fire without film Z1P - Dave Mann - Oh yes it will as long as there is an empty film chamber! 67 will dry fire with the 'frame counter trick' The Z1/Z1P and MZ-M are getting some disagreements here! But for these disagreements, I am tempted to think that all 'electronic' cameras will fire as long as the back is shut and either the chamber is empty or the film has fed successfully. Mechnical cameras don't seem to care. Just need to resolve the disagreements and see if there are any transitional cameras which wont dry fire at all. Peter Alling said that there were some which needed a cardboard insert to 'pretend' there was film loaded - any model numbers as examples? Any others?
Pentax 50 Year Posters, one last time
For those who have already lived through this, bear with me for a moment while I bring newer members up to date. A couple of months ago, list member Dario produced a wonderful poster celebrating 50 years of Pentax. For each year he has one image of a camera produced that year. See http://digilander.libero.it/pentaxday/postere.htm Dario, in a fit of charity and generosity, offered PDML members copies of the poster at (or maybe below) cost plus postage. International Postage being what it is from Italy, the postage is way more than the poster. But by consolidating orders, it is possible to minimize the cost by putting 15 posters into one mailing tube to the U.S. (By the way, I have never seen anything packed so tightly into a container since the last time I saw an ad for Calvin Klein jeans). So anyway, I ordered 60 of the posters and transshipped them to about 35 different PDML members. Tomorrow morning I send the last batch ordered by a PDMLer in the first go round (he was slow paying, I am slow shipping, so it all balances out.) I set aside a couple for myself, I'll send one of those to a latecomer who sent me payment a month ago anticipating that I would be getting more. As far as I know, this satisfies all demand in the U.S. for the poster. With the possible exception of JCO who inquired about cost etc but did not specifically commit. If a bunch of people still want posters, I'll do it again. If one or two do, it is probably easier all the way around for you to go directly to Dario. Let me know, off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED], if you want one or more posters. Depending on total quantity, ordering through me will run about $7.50/ $10.75 / $14.25 for 1 / 2 / 3 posters respectively. Plus or minus $.50 depending on a couple of factors. They really are nice! One of the ones I got is hanging in my local store next to similar posters from Canon and Minolta. The Pentax one is much better done! Stan
Re: SMCT 135/2.5
The late SMCT 135 f2.5 is optically identical to the K series. The K has a baffle at the lens mount. The original f2.5 had 5 elements in 4 groups and would 8 primary reflections when looking through the lens. The later, and best, has 6 elements in 6 groups and would yield 12 reflections. Bob - Original Message - From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 1:08 PM Subject: Re: SMCT 135/2.5 I'm just making a semi-educated guess, but I think you're speaking of the Takumar, and it has come in both M-42 screw mount and K-mount bayonet? That's all I can think of. If so, their performance whould be essentially identical to each other, as most bayonet SMCs are 'merely' M-42s with bayonet mounts. So I'm given to understand... Frankie Lee wrote: There are two versions of SMCT 135/2.5. Do they have the same optical performance? Thanks. I have no info on serial numbers, and don't know where to get any! :^( However, as a single point of reference, I have a 135mm, f/2.5 SMC Takumar, M-42 mount, s/n 4,961,35x, the x being the obfuscating numeric character... ;^) keith whaley
Re: SMCT 55/1.8
It is an excellent lens. Probably one of, if not the sharpest, standard lenses at that time and when stopped down to f5.6-f11, holds its own even today. Bob - Original Message - From: Frankie Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 9:12 PM Subject: SMCT 55/1.8 Is SMCT 55/1.8 a good lens? Spotmatic camera is always sold with it. _ Weight Loss products, Herbal Viagra, and much more!http://www.VitaDepot.com _ Promote your group and strengthen ties to your members with [EMAIL PROTECTED] by Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net/?btn=tag
RE: SMCT 135/2.5
No, there were two different S-M-C Takumar (both screwmount) 135 2.5 lenses. The first is 80mm long, the second is 85mm long (measured from front edge of barrel to flange with focus set at infinity). I know of no way to tell just by a serial number alone. The second version is an improved 6 element design while the first is the same very old 5 element design as the super-Takumar. The second version is the one to get. It's about the same as or slightly rarer as the first version. Last one I sold went for $125 on ebay about 6 months ago to a buyer who knew the difference. BTW, the 135 2.5 Takumar bayonet mount lens (non-smc) is a total piece of crap budget series lens not worth buying at any price.. JCO -Original Message- From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 11:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SMCT 135/2.5 I'm just making a semi-educated guess, but I think you're speaking of the Takumar, and it has come in both M-42 screw mount and K-mount bayonet? That's all I can think of. If so, their performance whould be essentially identical to each other, as most bayonet SMCs are 'merely' M-42s with bayonet mounts. So I'm given to understand... Frankie Lee wrote: There are two versions of SMCT 135/2.5. Do they have the same optical performance? Thanks. I have no info on serial numbers, and don't know where to get any! :^( However, as a single point of reference, I have a 135mm, f/2.5 SMC Takumar, M-42 mount, s/n 4,961,35x, the x being the obfuscating numeric character... ;^) keith whaley
RE: Dry firing roundup
Now that I look at this I think maybe I should apologize. I generally don't use DX capable cameras and often roll my own BW. I just didn't notice that the film I was testing with was in an un-encoded canister. At 11:47 PM 9/20/2002 -0400, you wrote: Maybe I should clarify. The film canister that allowed dry firing when the camera was incorrectly loaded was not DX coded. Does anyone else want to try the other bodies in question with non coded canisters? At 05:27 PM 9/20/2002 +0100, you wrote: P30T will dry fire regardless of film presence or misfeeds MZ-M - Peter Alling I can deliberately mis-load the example of the ZX=M I own and it will fire and advance even though there is no film movement. Since this camera is based on ZX series I would bet that all other ZX/MZ cameras with the possible exception of the MZ-S will work the same way. MZ-M - Brendan The MZ-M has the same film system as the other mz cameras, normally it won't fire if it sees a misfeed. MZ-50 will only dry-fire with an empty film chamber, misfeeds or misloads lock the camera MZ-30 ditto MZ-5N ditto MZ-S ditto SF-1 ditto PZ-20 ditto Z1(p?) - Jostein - it will only fire with an empty film chamber Z1P - Mike - it wont fire without film Z1P - Dave Mann - Oh yes it will as long as there is an empty film chamber! 67 will dry fire with the 'frame counter trick' The Z1/Z1P and MZ-M are getting some disagreements here! But for these disagreements, I am tempted to think that all 'electronic' cameras will fire as long as the back is shut and either the chamber is empty or the film has fed successfully. Mechnical cameras don't seem to care. Just need to resolve the disagreements and see if there are any transitional cameras which wont dry fire at all. Peter Alling said that there were some which needed a cardboard insert to 'pretend' there was film loaded - any model numbers as examples? Any others?
JCO - What time is it
Hi JCO, From your las post, you must be a night owl! It should be well past 12:00am where you are. Bob
Re: Dry firing roundup
All I know is that I didn't think it was humanly possible to incorrectly load any modern camera, it's so easy you can do it sleeping. - Original Message - From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 11:47 PM Subject: RE: Dry firing roundup Maybe I should clarify. The film canister that allowed dry firing when the camera was incorrectly loaded was not DX coded. Does anyone else want to try the other bodies in question with non coded canisters? At 05:27 PM 9/20/2002 +0100, you wrote: P30T will dry fire regardless of film presence or misfeeds MZ-M - Peter Alling I can deliberately mis-load the example of the ZX=M I own and it will fire and advance even though there is no film movement. Since this camera is based on ZX series I would bet that all other ZX/MZ cameras with the possible exception of the MZ-S will work the same way. MZ-M - Brendan The MZ-M has the same film system as the other mz cameras, normally it won't fire if it sees a misfeed. MZ-50 will only dry-fire with an empty film chamber, misfeeds or misloads lock the camera MZ-30 ditto MZ-5N ditto MZ-S ditto SF-1 ditto PZ-20 ditto Z1(p?) - Jostein - it will only fire with an empty film chamber Z1P - Mike - it wont fire without film Z1P - Dave Mann - Oh yes it will as long as there is an empty film chamber! 67 will dry fire with the 'frame counter trick' The Z1/Z1P and MZ-M are getting some disagreements here! But for these disagreements, I am tempted to think that all 'electronic' cameras will fire as long as the back is shut and either the chamber is empty or the film has fed successfully. Mechnical cameras don't seem to care. Just need to resolve the disagreements and see if there are any transitional cameras which wont dry fire at all. Peter Alling said that there were some which needed a cardboard insert to 'pretend' there was film loaded - any model numbers as examples? Any others?
RE: JCO - What time is it
It's 12:24 am right now, you call that late? I sometimes skip a nights sleep altogether and stay up all night long!!! BTW, theres officially no such thing as 12:00 am ( or 12:00pm ). The correct nomenclature is 12:00 midnight and 12:00 noon. One of my little pet peeves Cheers! JCO -Original Message- From: Bob Rapp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 12:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: JCO - What time is it Hi JCO, From your las post, you must be a night owl! It should be well past 12:00am where you are. Bob
RE: Pentax 50 Year Posters, one last time
I want one, how much do I pay JCO -Original Message- From: Stan Halpin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 11:53 PM To: PDML Subject: Pentax 50 Year Posters, one last time For those who have already lived through this, bear with me for a moment while I bring newer members up to date. A couple of months ago, list member Dario produced a wonderful poster celebrating 50 years of Pentax. For each year he has one image of a camera produced that year. See http://digilander.libero.it/pentaxday/postere.htm Dario, in a fit of charity and generosity, offered PDML members copies of the poster at (or maybe below) cost plus postage. International Postage being what it is from Italy, the postage is way more than the poster. But by consolidating orders, it is possible to minimize the cost by putting 15 posters into one mailing tube to the U.S. (By the way, I have never seen anything packed so tightly into a container since the last time I saw an ad for Calvin Klein jeans). So anyway, I ordered 60 of the posters and transshipped them to about 35 different PDML members. Tomorrow morning I send the last batch ordered by a PDMLer in the first go round (he was slow paying, I am slow shipping, so it all balances out.) I set aside a couple for myself, I'll send one of those to a latecomer who sent me payment a month ago anticipating that I would be getting more. As far as I know, this satisfies all demand in the U.S. for the poster. With the possible exception of JCO who inquired about cost etc but did not specifically commit. If a bunch of people still want posters, I'll do it again. If one or two do, it is probably easier all the way around for you to go directly to Dario. Let me know, off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED], if you want one or more posters. Depending on total quantity, ordering through me will run about $7.50/ $10.75 / $14.25 for 1 / 2 / 3 posters respectively. Plus or minus $.50 depending on a couple of factors. They really are nice! One of the ones I got is hanging in my local store next to similar posters from Canon and Minolta. The Pentax one is much better done! Stan
Re: please explain
At 22:09 20-9-2002 -0400, you wrote: I saw 2 penatx lenses I wanna buy, one is a 28-80 and the other is 80-320mm Go for the 80-320mm, it's a good one. I was fortunate to have bought a black one off one of the list members. I'd looked at the silver but couldn't bring myself to buy it for the MZ-S. However, as hubby seems to have filched it for himself and his MZ-5n perhaps I'll have to get the silver one after all and switch it when he's not looking. Wendy --- Wendy Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] home page http://www.beard-redfern.com
Re: Screw mount lenses locking on K bodies (how to..)
There is one thing to take into consideration when permanently attatching a K to M42 adaptor on a M42 lens. The genuine Pentax adaptor when mounted on a K body is slightly recessed. This is good if you want a tight mount when screwing a lens into the adaptor when mounted on the body. The generic adaptors mount flush, but the lens will wobble a little when mounted. If the Pentax adaptor is chosen the adaptor/lens combination may not fulley lock into place. A generic adaptor would probably be better suited. I have tried both as setteled on the generic adaptor. Bob
RE: Hi all :^)
Gleb, Welcome to the club. Great shots! Alex -Original Message- From: B G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 1:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hi all :^) Hi all Pentax users! I have joined your list finally, after watching you almost 4 years! In 1998 Fall I bought my ZX-5n as a replacement for my stolen Yashica FX-2000 super kit. And a month ago I joined MF shooters getting used Pentax 645 + 75 and 35mm lenses and very happy about it. I am Russian working in US these last years (Chicago). You can get some ideas about my photo interests/achievements here: http://www.photosight.ru/ownpage.php?authorid=2119 http://www.photocritique.net/cgi-bin/phtg?xx+GLEB+BAIDA And I hope to get your help with those questions I cannot answer myself. Best regards, Gleb Baida. _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
Re: JCO - What time is it
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] BTW, theres officially no such thing as 12:00 am ( or 12:00pm ). The correct nomenclature is 12:00 midnight and 12:00 noon. One of my little pet peeves One that is confusing! If it is am, it is midnight! I used to be like you, but I just got old. Still do a 27 - 36 hourer from time to time. Bob
Re: Dry firing roundup
- Original Message - From: Brad Dobo Subject: Re: Dry firing roundup All I know is that I didn't think it was humanly possible to incorrectly load any modern camera, it's so easy you can do it sleeping. And you would be wrong. Every time they make em more foolproof, someone invents a whole new way to be a fool, and everyone so inclined jumps on the bandwagon. We see 3-12 blanks per day, depending on the phase of the moon. William Robb This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: please explain
Damn, why are the black ones not available here.really ticks me off. - Original Message - From: wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 12:31 AM Subject: Re: please explain At 22:09 20-9-2002 -0400, you wrote: I saw 2 penatx lenses I wanna buy, one is a 28-80 and the other is 80-320mm Go for the 80-320mm, it's a good one. I was fortunate to have bought a black one off one of the list members. I'd looked at the silver but couldn't bring myself to buy it for the MZ-S. However, as hubby seems to have filched it for himself and his MZ-5n perhaps I'll have to get the silver one after all and switch it when he's not looking. Wendy --- Wendy Beard Ottawa, Canada mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] home page http://www.beard-redfern.com
RE: JCO - What time is it
-Original Message- From: Bob Rapp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 12:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: JCO - What time is it - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] BTW, theres officially no such thing as 12:00 am ( or 12:00pm ). The correct nomenclature is 12:00 midnight and 12:00 noon. One of my little pet peeves One that is confusing! If it is am, it is midnight! I used to be like you, but I just got old. Still do a 27 - 36 hourer from time to time. Bob Actually 12:00am and 12:00pm is whats confusing, there was a actually court case over it years ago. 12:00:00 is the switchover time from am to pm and pm to am. It is neither am or pm at the switchover time, just 12:00:00 noon and 12:00:00 midnight, Noon and midnight is always clear which transition is occuring JCO
Re: Dry firing roundup
I don't think I'm wrong, it's just some people can't chew gum and walk at the same time :) Cheers and regards, :) Brad - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 12:58 AM Subject: Re: Dry firing roundup - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo Subject: Re: Dry firing roundup All I know is that I didn't think it was humanly possible to incorrectly load any modern camera, it's so easy you can do it sleeping. And you would be wrong. Every time they make em more foolproof, someone invents a whole new way to be a fool, and everyone so inclined jumps on the bandwagon. We see 3-12 blanks per day, depending on the phase of the moon. William Robb This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Dry firing roundup
- Original Message - From: Brad Dobo Subject: Re: Dry firing roundup I don't think I'm wrong, it's just some people can't chew gum and walk at the same time :) Are you saying this makes them less than human Mr. Contentious
Re: Dry firing roundup
I'm just going from experience. I have used only 3 Pentax cameras (unless you count digital), I couldn't tell you what the error message looks like on the MZ-5n or the MZ-S, since I've never loaded it incorrectly. The PZ-10 was not as easy as the others, but still a piece of cake. I cannot believe the rate of blanks you get a day. I'm beginning to think you need a licence to use a camera...after passing a test of some sort :) Brad - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 1:05 AM Subject: Re: Dry firing roundup I don't think I'm wrong, it's just some people can't chew gum and walk at the same time :) Cheers and regards, :) Brad - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 12:58 AM Subject: Re: Dry firing roundup - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo Subject: Re: Dry firing roundup All I know is that I didn't think it was humanly possible to incorrectly load any modern camera, it's so easy you can do it sleeping. And you would be wrong. Every time they make em more foolproof, someone invents a whole new way to be a fool, and everyone so inclined jumps on the bandwagon. We see 3-12 blanks per day, depending on the phase of the moon. William Robb This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Dry firing roundup
You are always badgering me! :) And to answer your question, no I don't think it makes them less than human. I have seen plenty of humans who start chewing gum and then fall over. Does this not happen down under? :) - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 1:15 AM Subject: Re: Dry firing roundup - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo Subject: Re: Dry firing roundup I don't think I'm wrong, it's just some people can't chew gum and walk at the same time :) Are you saying this makes them less than human Mr. Contentious
Ontario Poster and beyond
Hi Lads and ladeses. I recieved the tube of posters from Dario tonight.Big thanks to Canada Post for leaving them on my door stoop in the rain(they are ok) I'll email postage to those who need,TOPDML lets meet.This weekend is not good.Damn horses:) Dave Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: Dry firing roundup
- Original Message - From: Brad Dobo Subject: Re: Dry firing roundup You are always badgering me! :) And to answer your question, no I don't think it makes them less than human. I have seen plenty of humans who start chewing gum and then fall over. Does this not happen down under? :) I think they fall under down there. HAR!! WW
Re: Dry firing roundup
- Original Message - From: Brad Dobo Subject: Re: Dry firing roundup I cannot believe the rate of blanks you get a day. I'm beginning to think you need a licence to use a camera...after passing a test of some sort :) Most of my customers use really cheap PS cameras. The loading systems are not reliable, and they don't tell you if they are misloaded. William Robb
Re: Re: Dry firing roundup
Love my ,new to me SP , starting to hate the magic needles. Dave Begin Original Message From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 00:28:26 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Dry firing roundup All I know is that I didn't think it was humanly possible to incorrectly load any modern camera, it's so easy you can do it sleeping. - Original Message - From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 11:47 PM Subject: RE: Dry firing roundup Maybe I should clarify. The film canister that allowed dry firing when the camera was incorrectly loaded was not DX coded. Does anyone else want to try the other bodies in question with non coded canisters? At 05:27 PM 9/20/2002 +0100, you wrote: P30T will dry fire regardless of film presence or misfeeds MZ-M - Peter Alling I can deliberately mis- load the example of the ZX=M I own and it will fire and advance even though there is no film movement. Since this camera is based on ZX series I would bet that all other ZX/MZ cameras with the possible exception of the MZ-S will work the same way. MZ-M - Brendan The MZ-M has the same film system as the other mz cameras, normally it won't fire if it sees a misfeed. MZ-50 will only dry-fire with an empty film chamber, misfeeds or misloads lock the camera MZ-30 ditto MZ-5N ditto MZ-S ditto SF-1 ditto PZ-20 ditto Z1(p?) - Jostein - it will only fire with an empty film chamber Z1P - Mike - it wont fire without film Z1P - Dave Mann - Oh yes it will as long as there is an empty film chamber! 67 will dry fire with the 'frame counter trick' The Z1/Z1P and MZ-M are getting some disagreements here! But for these disagreements, I am tempted to think that all 'electronic' cameras will fire as long as the back is shut and either the chamber is empty or the film has fed successfully. Mechnical cameras don't seem to care. Just need to resolve the disagreements and see if there are any transitional cameras which wont dry fire at all. Peter Alling said that there were some which needed a cardboard insert to 'pretend' there was film loaded - any model numbers as examples? Any others? End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: Re: Dry firing roundup
Brad. I make a lot of money from folks who take pictures from their PS or equivilent.They rely on technology working in ther favor,realize they take bad pic's and i sell them good ones.I love capitalizim.:) Dave Begin Original Message From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 01:14:08 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Dry firing roundup I'm just going from experience. I have used only 3 Pentax cameras (unless you count digital), I couldn't tell you what the error message looks like on the MZ-5n or the MZ-S, since I've never loaded it incorrectly. The PZ-10 was not as easy as the others, but still a piece of cake. I cannot believe the rate of blanks you get a day. I'm beginning to think you need a licence to use a camera...after passing a test of some sort :) Brad - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 1:05 AM Subject: Re: Dry firing roundup I don't think I'm wrong, it's just some people can't chew gum and walk at the same time :) Cheers and regards, :) Brad - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 12:58 AM Subject: Re: Dry firing roundup - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo Subject: Re: Dry firing roundup All I know is that I didn't think it was humanly possible to incorrectly load any modern camera, it's so easy you can do it sleeping. And you would be wrong. Every time they make em more foolproof, someone invents a whole new way to be a fool, and everyone so inclined jumps on the bandwagon. We see 3- 12 blanks per day, depending on the phase of the moon. William Robb This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: Dry firing roundup
Yes, I'd expect that. There are a lot of strange things when it comes to cameras. Incorrectly film loading (then shooting 36 exp. on one frame:), thumb over the lens, you name it (and you see it). It doesn't happen that way with a VCR, people seem to be able to put in a cassette easy enough. Same with DVDs, I think most people insert them correctly. Same with stereos. They can work cell phones with text messenging, they may even have a Ph. D.! But when it comes to cameras, some people are well you know Btw, at my photography class, one lady was jabbering on and on about the shots she has taken and was showing off her Nikon F100. When the instructor first mentioned DOF (Preview) she asked what that meant. I almost laughed! I did notice a trend. It seems like those who came to class with older SLRs seem to be more knowledgeable. (Except me! :)) Brad - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 1:28 AM Subject: Re: Dry firing roundup - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo Subject: Re: Dry firing roundup I cannot believe the rate of blanks you get a day. I'm beginning to think you need a licence to use a camera...after passing a test of some sort :) Most of my customers use really cheap PS cameras. The loading systems are not reliable, and they don't tell you if they are misloaded. William Robb
Re: Pentax 50 Year Posters, one last time
Hey Stan. I recieved my 13 posters tonight for theTOPDMLers .You'r right the pakaging is great,took all 8 fingers to pull them out. BTW They are fantastic posters,thanks Dario. Dave Begin Original Message From: Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:52:48 -0500 To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pentax 50 Year Posters, one last time For those who have already lived through this, bear with me for a moment while I bring newer members up to date. A couple of months ago, list member Dario produced a wonderful poster celebrating 50 years of Pentax. For each year he has one image of a camera produced that year. See http://digilander.libero.it/pentaxday/postere.h tm Dario, in a fit of charity and generosity, offered PDML members copies of the poster at (or maybe below) cost plus postage. International Postage being what it is from Italy, the postage is way more than the poster. But by consolidating orders, it is possible to minimize the cost by putting 15 posters into one mailing tube to the U.S. (By the way, I have never seen anything packed so tightly into a container since the last time I saw an ad for Calvin Klein jeans). So anyway, I ordered 60 of the posters and transshipped them to about 35 different PDML members. Tomorrow morning I send the last batch ordered by a PDMLer in the first go round (he was slow paying, I am slow shipping, so it all balances out.) I set aside a couple for myself, I'll send one of those to a latecomer who sent me payment a month ago anticipating that I would be getting more. As far as I know, this satisfies all demand in the U.S. for the poster. With the possible exception of JCO who inquired about cost etc but did not specifically commit. If a bunch of people still want posters, I'll do it again. If one or two do, it is probably easier all the way around for you to go directly to Dario. Let me know, off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED], if you want one or more posters. Depending on total quantity, ordering through me will run about $7.50/ $10.75 / $14.25 for 1 / 2 / 3 posters respectively. Plus or minus $.50 depending on a couple of factors. They really are nice! One of the ones I got is hanging in my local store next to similar posters from Canon and Minolta. The Pentax one is much better done! Stan End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: Re: Dry firing roundup
Oh, no doubt Dave! It just makes me laugh at how stupid people become with cameras, yet can assemble a computer. - Original Message - From: David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 1:26 AM Subject: Re: Re: Dry firing roundup Brad. I make a lot of money from folks who take pictures from their PS or equivilent.They rely on technology working in ther favor,realize they take bad pic's and i sell them good ones.I love capitalizim.:) Dave Begin Original Message From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 01:14:08 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Dry firing roundup I'm just going from experience. I have used only 3 Pentax cameras (unless you count digital), I couldn't tell you what the error message looks like on the MZ-5n or the MZ-S, since I've never loaded it incorrectly. The PZ-10 was not as easy as the others, but still a piece of cake. I cannot believe the rate of blanks you get a day. I'm beginning to think you need a licence to use a camera...after passing a test of some sort :) Brad - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 1:05 AM Subject: Re: Dry firing roundup I don't think I'm wrong, it's just some people can't chew gum and walk at the same time :) Cheers and regards, :) Brad - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 12:58 AM Subject: Re: Dry firing roundup - Original Message - From: Brad Dobo Subject: Re: Dry firing roundup All I know is that I didn't think it was humanly possible to incorrectly load any modern camera, it's so easy you can do it sleeping. And you would be wrong. Every time they make em more foolproof, someone invents a whole new way to be a fool, and everyone so inclined jumps on the bandwagon. We see 3- 12 blanks per day, depending on the phase of the moon. William Robb This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
Re: Re: Dry firing roundup
- Original Message - From: David Brooks Subject: Re: Re: Dry firing roundup Love my ,new to me SP , starting to hate the magic needles. Wow. I love the majik noodles William Robb
