Re: Barcelona assignment

2002-09-23 Thread MPozzi

Well done Gianfranco,
Good one, 
Enjoy it and let us know how you get along...
Ciao!

--- Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Hi everybody,
 
 I'm going to fly to my first *paid* assignment
 abroad, in
 Barcelona, starting from the 2nd of October.
 I'll have to take pictures of sociological
 importance (like
 local identities, urban poverty, gentrification and
 so on...)
 and probably I'll be accompanied by a Spanish
 student.
 Is any list member located in Barcelona or close? I
 recall at
 least Jaume should live there.
 I don't know how much spare time I'm going to have
 (I'll arrive
 at noon of the 2nd and I'll leave on the 7th, late
 morning).
 If someone is close enough and has the time it would
 be nice to
 meet you, have a drink and talk about photography
 (and Pentax,
 of course...).
 
 Ciao,
 
 Gianfranco
 
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Re[4]: UK trip in October, maybe

2002-09-23 Thread Bob Walkden

Hi Stan,

Monday, September 23, 2002, 12:36:05 AM, you wrote:

 Saturday sounds good to me.
 I've been walking around muttering to myself: 35mm or 645? Or both? One
 body? Two bodies? One each? Two each? What lens kit?  I did a quick
 inventory this afternoon and found that I have a much larger stock of 120
 and 220 film than of 135. So I am seriously considering a simple kit of one
 645 body plus only 3 lenses: 45m, 75mm, and 150mm. The 35mm and the 120mm
 are crying out to me that they want to go along also, but I think I will
 resist. Though I may swap out the 45mm for the 35mm . . . One extension tube
 for macro work. Maybe even leave the tripod behind.


I think you'd be well advised to travel light. For such a short trip
and with such little time for photography anything more than the real
basics would just be in the way, and is unlikely to be used. In London
if you know your way around, or are with someone who does, you'll be
doing a lot of walking, and nobody's going to carry it but it you. If
you don't know your way around, chances are you'll be down the tube a
lot, where there isn't much to photograph anyway, especially with a tripod
and certainly not with a flash (flash photography is understandably prohibited).

I think your 645 + 3 lenses kit would be fine.

Are there any particular sights or aspects of London that you're
especially keen to see? Have you been here before?


---

 Bob  




Re: Professional Gear

2002-09-23 Thread Butch Black

In 35mm it is somewhat clouded by the fact that Pentax hasn't really
marketed to the pro market. It would be safe to say that any of their *
lenses (A*, FA*,etc) are pro oriented as would be most of their really long
glass. All of their medium format lenses would be considered pro oriented
but that is pretty consistent with most MF manufacturers.

35mm pro lenses are usually fast for their focal length, superior optical
and usually build quality, and very expensive.

Margo Ellen Gesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote;

Now hears ANOTHER dumb question: I comprehend the difference between
consumer and pro bodies. Could you good people enlighten me as to the
difference between consumer and pro LENSES? And what series of Pentax lenses
are pro?

P.S. That's not a dumb question.

BUTCH

Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself
Hermann Hesse (Demian)




RE: UK trip in October, maybe

2002-09-23 Thread Rob Brigham

I need to check with the boss and see if I am free and can get
clearance.  It now looks like the following weekend for PDMLUK ii is not
going to be possible, but if I am free then the 12th should be fine (I
think that is the date Bob Walkden prefers).  It would be great and
provided I am not committed elsewhere I will go along with whatever.
The boat trip certainly sounds good!

Rob

Now going OT, I better fill out one of these:

http://viral.lycos.co.uk/attachments/905/permission_.doc

 -Original Message-
 From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: 22 September 2002 09:45
 To: Pentax List
 Subject: Re: UK trip in October, maybe
 
 
 My possible trip to U.K. in October is now a go.
 I'll arrive Gatwick sometime early morning Friday 11 
 October. Return to 
 the States early Saturday 19 October. At this point my plan 
 is to spend 
 my free weekend (11-13) in Sevenoaks, the locale of the meeting to 
 which I am traveling. Suggestions? Cotty had mentioned a 
 possible trip 
 well north; I am not sure I am up for that much travel.
 
 I'm free that weekend. How about a meet up in town? Bob W, you up for 
 that? Rob? Anyone? How about a boat trip up and down the 
 Thames and then 
 some lunch? Or Regent's Park Zoo? Or?
 
 Cotty
 
 
 Oh swipe me! He paints with light! 
 http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ 
 
 Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at
 http://www.macads.co.uk/
 
 
 




Kodak's comeback

2002-09-23 Thread Alin Flaider


  DCS Pro 14n, sporting a 13.8 MPixels CMOS, priced under $4000.

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/biznews/0922story4_business.shtml

  Still nothing on our side...

  Servus, Alin





R: Barcelona assignment

2002-09-23 Thread Imatisse


- Original Message - 
From: MPozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: Barcelona assignment


 Well done Gianfranco,
 Good one, 
 Enjoy it and let us know how you get along...
 Ciao!
 
 --- Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Hi everybody,
  
  I'm going to fly to my first *paid* assignment
  abroad, in
  Barcelona, starting from the 2nd of October.
  I'll have to take pictures of sociological
  importance (like
  local identities, urban poverty, gentrification and
  so on...)
  and probably I'll be accompanied by a Spanish
  student.
  Is any list member located in Barcelona or close? I
  recall at
  least Jaume should live there.
  I don't know how much spare time I'm going to have
  (I'll arrive
  at noon of the 2nd and I'll leave on the 7th, late
  morning).
  If someone is close enough and has the time it would
  be nice to
  meet you, have a drink and talk about photography
  (and Pentax,
  of course...).
  
  Ciao,
  
  Gianfranco
  
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Re: Barcelona assignment

2002-09-23 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda

MPozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well done Gianfranco,
 Good one, 
 Enjoy it and let us know how you get along...
 Ciao!
 

Ciao Michele!
Grazie, ehm, thanks a lot!
I'll let you all know for sure...

Ciao,

Gianfranco


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OT:Where is Albano?

2002-09-23 Thread Bob Rapp

I have not seen any postings from our Argentina agent and poll master. I
hope he is well.

Bob




RE: Photokina watchers

2002-09-23 Thread Rob Brigham

Also look out here:

http://www.press1.de/asp/km/pf/?messe=photokinatp=photokinaeformat=htm
lbase=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.press1.de%2Fasp%2Fkm%2Fpf%2Fp1=alphanavp2=ptex
tp2_text=p3=pfachp3_pfach=kmpk0102

http://www.photokina.de/servlet/PB/menu/1062991_l2/index.html

And possibly http://213.155.72.24/users/CMC/photokina/index.htm
(although I think this list is complete now and Pentax arent on it!)


 -Original Message-
 From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: 22 September 2002 22:27
 To: Pentax List
 Subject: Photokina watchers
 
 
 Keen Photokina watchers should note this page:
 
 http://www.dpreview.com/news/0209/02092200photokina2002preview.asp
 
 It is a dedicated page that will be updated with 
 announcements pre the 
 show itself. They are expecting most revelations the day before (this 
 coming Tuesday) so keep those beady eyes peeled.
 
 Cotty
 
 
 Oh swipe me! He paints with light! 
 http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ 
 
 Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at
 http://www.macads.co.uk/
 
 
 




Re: 28-80 v/s 28-105

2002-09-23 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda

Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 HehehI'm glad I'm not the only vain one! :)  I have the
older FA
 28-105mm 1:4-5.6 [IF].  I asked for comments on this before
(mainly hoping
 for someone to tell me it sucks so I could justify buying the
24-90mm)  I
 don't remember getting any.  From my own limited experience it
is a decent
 lens.  The new version with the AL elements is no doubt
better, lighter, and
 requires a smaller filter (dunno what size, but mine is 62mm) 


Hi Brad,

You made me recall a test in Spotmatic magazine: they compared
the FA 28-105 (the powerzoom version) to the 24-90. The 24-90
wins hand down, especially wrt flare resistance and overall
sharpness. I don't know if it is available on the AOHC website,
though.

Gianfranco

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RE: Photokina watchers

2002-09-23 Thread Rob Brigham

Sorry, that first link may be a little too long.  You will have to cut
and paste the whole lot into the address bar in your browser.

 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Brigham 
 Sent: 23 September 2002 10:50
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Photokina watchers
 
 
 Also look out here:
 
 http://www.press1.de/asp/km/pf/?messe=photokinatp=photokinae;
 format=htm
 lbase=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.press1.de%2Fasp%2Fkm%2Fpf%2Fp1=alphan
 avp2=ptex
 tp2_text=p3=pfachp3_pfach=kmpk0102
 
http://www.photokina.de/servlet/PB/menu/1062991_l2/index.html

And possibly http://213.155.72.24/users/CMC/photokina/index.htm
(although I think this list is complete now and Pentax arent on it!)


 -Original Message-
 From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 22 September 2002 22:27
 To: Pentax List
 Subject: Photokina watchers
 
 
 Keen Photokina watchers should note this page:
 
 http://www.dpreview.com/news/0209/02092200photokina2002preview.asp
 
 It is a dedicated page that will be updated with
 announcements pre the 
 show itself. They are expecting most revelations the day before (this 
 coming Tuesday) so keep those beady eyes peeled.
 
 Cotty
 
 
 Oh swipe me! He paints with light!
 http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/ 
 
 Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at
 http://www.macads.co.uk/
 
 
 




Re: Re[4]: UK trip in October, maybe

2002-09-23 Thread Stan Halpin


 From: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 08:45:29 +0100
 Subject: Re[4]: UK trip in October, maybe
 
 Hi Stan,
 
. . . 
 
 Are there any particular sights or aspects of London that you're
 especially keen to see? Have you been here before?
 
Bob, this will be my 8th or 9th trip to U.K. in the last 20 years. The last
two visits were primarily in London. (All visits of one week or more). So I
have seen a bit of the city. On my last visit, in early summer, 2000, I
spent my free evenings  and one afternoon hopscotching about the city: take
the tube for a ways, pop above ground, wander the environs for a while,
often walking to the next tube stop, then back down for a jaunt to another
almost randomly chosen area.

I enjoy interesting buildings, people, scenes . . . the texture and color
and feel of a place.  I couldn't say that there is any particular must see
among the standard sites that I haven't seen at least in passing.  But I
also couldn't say that I have captured the essential photo of  any one
place. So, in short, I am happy to wander and to let my eye be guided by
others who have seen the locale through different eyes. Its early morning,
don't know if I am making sense . . .

stan




Mike Johnston's Sunday

2002-09-23 Thread Rob Brigham

A few (minor) Pentax mentions again this week...

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-02-09-22.shtml




RE: Re[4]: UK trip in October, maybe

2002-09-23 Thread Rob Brigham

Have you done the London Eye?

 -Original Message-
 From: Stan Halpin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: 23 September 2002 11:36
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Re[4]: UK trip in October, maybe
 
 
 
  From: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 08:45:29 +0100
  Subject: Re[4]: UK trip in October, maybe
  
  Hi Stan,
  
 . . . 
  
  Are there any particular sights or aspects of London that you're 
  especially keen to see? Have you been here before?
  
 Bob, this will be my 8th or 9th trip to U.K. in the last 20 
 years. The last two visits were primarily in London. (All 
 visits of one week or more). So I have seen a bit of the 
 city. On my last visit, in early summer, 2000, I spent my 
 free evenings  and one afternoon hopscotching about the city: 
 take the tube for a ways, pop above ground, wander the 
 environs for a while, often walking to the next tube stop, 
 then back down for a jaunt to another almost randomly chosen area.
 
 I enjoy interesting buildings, people, scenes . . . the 
 texture and color and feel of a place.  I couldn't say that 
 there is any particular must see among the standard sites 
 that I haven't seen at least in passing.  But I also couldn't 
 say that I have captured the essential photo of  any one 
 place. So, in short, I am happy to wander and to let my eye 
 be guided by others who have seen the locale through 
 different eyes. Its early morning, don't know if I am making 
 sense . . .
 
 stan
 
 




Re: Mike Johnston's Sunday

2002-09-23 Thread Bob Rapp

Too bad he is spending so much time as the Sunday Morning Photographer
that he has let the 37 frame slip! A winge, but I have not seen a issue in
6 months.
Are you listening, Mike?

Bob
- Original Message -
From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 8:38 PM
Subject: Mike Johnston's Sunday


 A few (minor) Pentax mentions again this week...

 http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-02-09-22.shtml





Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600

2002-09-23 Thread Alin Flaider


JT Closed with no bids.

   No wonder. Who's mad enough to sink s in glass Pentax will no
   longer support in digital? I guess that soon after Photokina we'll
   see on ebay an avalanche of Pentax items at derisory prices. Not
   that it makes me happy...
 
   Servus, Alin





Re: SUCH A DEAL

2002-09-23 Thread Keith Whaley

Thanks to our recent and somewhat extensive palaaver on 135s, I can
now tell immediately which build it is! Thank you all for that!
Where DID this person get his prices?
I've dropped him a line, suggesting he review some other sales, and
think of reducing his price a bit! By maybe 2/3?  ;^)
I think the lens he's showing is indeed in fine shape, from what we
can see in the photos, but that's a terrible price...
I have one in that identical condition, and I got it for just a shade
over $100, which was about right, according to all I've seen.

keith whaley

J. C. O'Connell wrote:
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1382043250
 
 WHAT A BARGAIN, AND IT'S NOT EVEN THE GOOD ONE.
 JCO




Re[2]: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600

2002-09-23 Thread Mike Ignatiev

It definitely brings a smile to my face. Man, I hope they *don't* come with a dslr for 
another coupe of years...

Mishka

-Original Message-
From: Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600

 I guess that soon after Photokina we'll
 see on ebay an avalanche of Pentax items at 
 derisory prices. Not that it makes me happy...
  
Servus, Alin





New NPH 400

2002-09-23 Thread Rob Brigham

http://home.fujifilm.com/photokina2002/data/pr_pdf/pr_1.pdf

New Fujicolor PORTRAIT FILM NPH 400 Professional
Now Boasts 4th Color Layer Technology for Enhanced Color Fidelity

PHOTOKINA 2002, COLOGNE, GERMANY, September 25, 2002 - Fuji Photo Film
Co., Ltd. is proud to announce the international debut of new Fujicolor
PORTRAIT
FILM NPH 400 incorporating Fujifilm's innovative 4th Color Layer
Technology.
Delivering excellent neutral skin tone reproduction, rich gradation,
enhanced color fidelity and unbiased neutral gray balance, this new
high-speed ISO 400 daylight-type fine grain color negative film offers
not only wedding and portrait photographers, but also industrial and
commercial photographers the versatility to fully exercise their
creativity. New NPH 400 will be showcased at the Fujifilm PHOTOKINA 2002
booth.

Building on the reputation and success of the original NPH 400, the
addition of 4th Color Layer Technology delivers faithful color
reproduction, even under fluorescent lights and other artificial light
sources. By eliminating the need to use corrective filters under
fluorescent lights, this film offers beautiful exposure, enhanced
convenience and ease of use for working professionals.

Fujifilm's enhanced NPH 400 incorporates a 4th Color Sensitive Layer in
addition to three RGB-sensitive layers and, with its high speed ISO 400
rating, provides faithful reproduction of neutral grays with sharply
improved fidelity over a wide exposure range, including under- and
over-exposures, as seen by human eye. Providing unparalleled flexibility
for professional portraiture, the new NPH 400 produces superb skin tones
with continuously smooth gradation from highlights to shadows as well as
reproduction of clearer colors in highlights subdued color saturation in
shadows, and excellent three-dimensional appearance in such details as
fabrics and other textures.

New NPH 400 is designed to provide medium color saturation, and
faithfully captures all the slightly different nuances of color that
characterize an appealing portrait. New NPH is recommended for
maximizing the effect of lighting indoors or photographing outdoors
where varying conditions demand stable performance.

New Fujicolor Portrait Film NPH 400 will be immediately available in
markets worldwide.




Re: Photokina watchers

2002-09-23 Thread Keith Whaley



Rob Brigham wrote:
 
 Also look out here:
 
 http://www.press1.de/asp/km/pf/?messe=photokinatp=photokinaeformat=htm
 lbase=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.press1.de%2Fasp%2Fkm%2Fpf%2Fp1=alphanavp2=ptex
 tp2_text=p3=pfachp3_pfach=kmpk0102
 
 http://www.photokina.de/servlet/PB/menu/1062991_l2/index.html
 
 And possibly http://213.155.72.24/users/CMC/photokina/index.htm
 (although I think this list is complete now and Pentax arent on it!)

I did visit one of those lists, and entered 'Pentax' as an exhibitor. 
I got the following results:


URL:  www.pentax.de

Hall:  01.2

Stand:  F021 / G020

Products - Cameras (Photo-, Video-, Film, Imaging)
- APS cameras
- Digital cameras
- Miniature cameras
- Medium format cameras
- Single lens reflex cameras
- Single lens reflex cameras with autofocus
- Viewfinder cameras with autofocus
- Viewfinder cameras
- Filters
- Lens hoods
- Converters, extenders
- Macro lenses
- Lenses for autofocus cameras
- Lenses for large and medium format cameras
- Lenses with fixed focal length
- Lenses with variable focal length
- Soft focus lenses
- Underwater protective housing
- Binoculars, telescopes
- Prismatic glasses
- Exposure meters and rangefinders
- Electronic flash units and tubes

Seems to be a pretty comprehensive display. Nothing said about new products...

keith whaley




RE: Photokina watchers

2002-09-23 Thread Rob Brigham

The links were to Pentax press releases at Photokina and new product
lists by exibitor.  Pentax have not released anything yet, but this is
where it will probably appear first!!

http://www.photokina.de/servlet/PB/menu/1062991_l2/index.html

Don't go to exhibitor list, go to 'Exhibitor's press releases' and click
on 'I'm a journalist', or new products list/reports.

Nothing there yet, but expected most exhibitors will release something
the day before the show.

 -Original Message-
 From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 
 I did visit one of those lists, and entered 'Pentax' as an exhibitor. 
 I got the following results:
 
 
 Seems to be a pretty comprehensive display. Nothing said 
 about new products...
 
 keith whaley
 
 




Re: LX (i know its not friday)

2002-09-23 Thread CBWaters


- Original Message -
From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  I would consider a part trade towards a FA*28-70/2.8.

 Heh, wouldn't anyone?  I'd give a left nut :)

 (sorry for the crudeness) :)

 Brad



I notice you didn't say *MY* left nut...  nice of you to offer someone
else's uh... property in trade :)))

Cory Waters
was up late last night at the Falcons game




Re: Website update new address

2002-09-23 Thread Yves Caudano

At 07:55 22/9/02 -0400, you wrote:
Some very nice work.I especially like the bark 
topic.
Dave

Thank you, Dave. Barks have been among my favorite
subjects for about three to four years now. I am
still often surprised by the variety of their 
shapes and textures.

Yves


--
Yves Caudano

Photography website: http://www.yvescaudano.be
Physics: http://www.scf.fundp.ac.be/~ycaudano/ 




Re: Mike Johnston's Sunday

2002-09-23 Thread Keith Whaley

Send a copy of this message to him at:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I was about to sign up for an annual subscription... Hmmm.

keith whaley

Bob Rapp wrote:
 
 Too bad he is spending so much time as the Sunday Morning Photographer
 that he has let the 37 frame slip! A winge, but I have not seen a issue in
 6 months.
 Are you listening, Mike?
 
 Bob

 - Original Message -
 From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 8:38 PM
 Subject: Mike Johnston's Sunday
 
  A few (minor) Pentax mentions again this week...
 
  http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-02-09-22.shtml
 




Re: Really OT: Ireland

2002-09-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

I don't recall the scene in the movie, but is is a great place for
photographs, although it has been a bit overexposed in postcards, travel
brochures, and books on Ireland.  Cobh is a great place for photographs, if
you have the proper Pentax equipment. 8).  There are colorful buildings
around the docks, a church on a cliff above the bay, ships, and interesting
museums.

Dan Scott wrote:

 Is the Cliff of Moher the location of The Cliffs of Insanity featuring
 in the movie, The Pincess Bride? If it is, that would afford some
 excellent photo opportunities.

 --

Daniel J. Matyola  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stanley, Powers  Matyola  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Suite203, 1170 US Highway 22 East  http://geocities.com/dmatyola/
Bridgewater, NJ 08807  (908)725-3322  fax: (908)707-0399





Re: Website update new address

2002-09-23 Thread Yves Caudano

At 13:36 22/9/02 +0100, you wrote:

Thank you for your nice comments! I must say I enjoyed designing my site,
even though it took me longer than expected...

Why does your website wants to set cookies? I have rejected them, and it 
seems to work well without them.
Frits J. Wüthrich

As you may have noticed, it is possible to change the look of the site by
clicking on the sun (kind of a night/day effect). The cookie is set simply
to remember this state between different pages. Rejecting cookies does not
prevent the site from working; without it, each page loads with the default 
presentation instead of the current one. This is only a temporary cookie 
that is automatically deleted at the end of the browser session. Until now,
more people liked this feature, than disliked it (or they didn't dare to
tell me :-). So I left it.

Yves


--
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Re: PUG deadline gone!

2002-09-23 Thread Arathi-Sridhar

Nice suggestion.
got my FIRST submission in and looking forward to it  :D 

 
 Darn!
 
 Missed the flamin submission for the PUG date again!
 
 Didn't even get as far as shooting anything, why do I forget every
 month?
 
 Can we have an auto-reminder posted to the list like 3 or 4 days in
 advance of the cut-off?
 






New Pentax Ads!

2002-09-23 Thread dick graham

Last week I made that the statement that Pentax had no apparent marketing 
and ad plan, that they would go months without an ad placed in the major US 
photo mags and that I had never seen 1 ad for the MZ-S. This past weekend I 
was watching the Pikes Peak hill climb on ESPN ( for our non US brethren, 
ESPN is a 24 hour a day cable sports channel )  As each vehicle passed a 
certain point on the race track going up the mountain, the TV camera picked 
up a large Pentax red banner placed next to ESPN's banner.  The next day I 
was watching ESPN Sport Center news.  They were showing highlights of a 
Seattle Mariner-Oakland Athletic baseball game.  The camera angle was from 
behind the pitcher toward home plate.  The rolling advertising banners on 
the base of the wall behind home plate all of the sudden switched to 3 
large red Pentax banners.  In less than 24 hours I had seen more Pentax 
ad effort on TV than I had seen in months in the pages of my favorite 
photo magazines.  The new Pentax ad campaign:  Get the Pentax name in front 
of the TV camera as often as possible!

DG




Re[2]: WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff

2002-09-23 Thread Bruce Dayton

Stan,

Yeah, I just got a 2nd day package in four days mailed in the same
state by UPS.  They routed it incorrectly.  Not so much as a sorry
or anything.  I am happier with USPS.


Bruce



Monday, September 23, 2002, 9:26:09 AM, you wrote:

SH on 9/5/02 21:43, Fred at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not to malign UPS, but the USPS has done much better by me.
 2-3 days via USPS Priority Mail and cheap!
 
 My experience with USPS Priority Mail has been outstanding. Hundreds
 of shipments to and fro, and almost always within 3 days max, and
 never a lost shipment.  Never.
 
 Fred
 
 
 
SH Like he said.

SH That is my experience also. Biggest pain with UPS vs USPS: USPS has a local
SH location to go to (called, quaintly, a Post Office) if you can't arrange to
SH accept delivery at home. UPS has one warehouse on the other side of town.

SH And, USPS is cheaper.

SH Just my not so humble opinion . . .

SH Stan




Re: OT: Tokina 24mm 2.8?

2002-09-23 Thread Pentxuser

Dave I have the Tokina 24 F2.8 and I think it's very good. I have the Pentax 
24 2.8 as well so I am looking to sell the Tokina. If you're are interested I 
am sure we can work out a deal. I'm in Hamilton and I think you are in TO. I 
have to pick up the Pentax posters soon so maybe we can get together in 
Toronto...
Vic 




Re: (2): PUG deadline gone!

2002-09-23 Thread David Brooks

Did you get a not so fluffy shot,Brendan

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Favourite Photo's

2002-09-23 Thread Feroze Kistan

Hi All,

Just for interest sake, as I'm new to this list, and probally will help me
to understand each ones quirks a bit better:

Ok, I'm gonna steal somebody's idea here. Its 2005, world warIII has been
declared, everbody has nuke's, you are designated to create a time capsuble
to be placed in a bunker for all prosperity. One of the items you have to
choose is 3 photographs of the 20th century that you would consider
unreplaceable. It need not be your favourite photograper, but the one you
felt had the most impact, let me start:

1] The picture of a suspected VC spy being executed by the police during The
Vietnam War
2] The picture of a common pepper by Ansel Adams
3] High heeled shoes in knickers by David Bailey.

You can send them to me direct at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

TIA
Feroze






Re: (2): PUG deadline gone!

2002-09-23 Thread Brendan

yup, but  I think the red 29 will do better han a 25

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SMC Pentax K-Mount Short Telephoto Lens Poll

2002-09-23 Thread Arnold Stark

Hello PDML,

here comes the SMC Pentax K-Mount Short Telephoto Prime Lens Poll

This time all members of the PDML are invited to choose 3 lenses among
the SMC Pentax K-mount primes with focal length between 77mm and 105mm.

Please imagine that you have no short telephoto prime lens for your
k-mount camera. Also imagine that you have more than enough money and a
good opportunity to buy k-mount SMC Pentax short prime lenses. What SMC
Pentax k-mount lens would you like to get most (1st choice)? What lens
would you pick as your 2nd choice, if your first choice was not
available? What lens would you pick as your 3rd choice (if your 1st and
2nd choice were not available)? Please choose among the following
lenses:

FA77/f1.8 Limited
A*85/f1.4
FA*85/f1.4 IF
K85/f1.8
M85/f2
K85/f2.2 Soft
F85/f2.8 Soft
FA85/f2.8 Soft
M100/f2.8
A100/f2.8
A100/f2.8 Macro
F100/f2.8 Macro
FA100/f2.8 Macro
FA100/f3.5 Macro
K100/f4 Macro
M100/f4 Macro
A100/f4 Macro
K105/f2.8

Rules:

1.) Pick your 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice. You may choose less than 3 but
not more than 3 choices.

2.) Please send your vote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exception: Send your
vote to the PDML if you have commented your choices, and you want the
members of the PDML to know your comments.

3.) I will count all votes that are sent before Thursday, September
26th, 21:00 hours German time.

Have fun with this poll, too, and thanks in advance for
contributing.

Arnold




Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600

2002-09-23 Thread Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce)

I have no idea why anyone seriously thought, as opposed to wished, that Pentax would 
sell a DSLR. People who have a need for digital have, and will, find other solutions. 
I don't expect any major, or long term, effect on the Pentax used equipment market.

BR

From: Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED]
... Who's mad enough to sink s in glass Pentax will no
   longer support in digital? I guess that soon after Photokina we'll
   see on ebay an avalanche of Pentax items at derisory prices. Not
   that it makes me happy...
 




Introduction and MZ-S data imprinting question

2002-09-23 Thread Tim Preston


First of all, being new here, I'd Just like to say hello =)

I've been using an SF-7 for a number of years that I bought secondhand as
a camera that could do a reasonable job of point  shoot yet would let
me twiddle with everything. It did the job I asked it to do.

Now I've bought myself an MZ-S, it's complete overkill really, but I
intend to try and grow into it. However I have a quick question about
the data imprinting.

The imnprinting seems to be surrounded by a sort of 'halo' or smudge which
tends to make it very difficult to read. Is this normal, or has my
camera got some sort of fault in the imprinting device?


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Re[4]: UK trip in October, maybe

2002-09-23 Thread Cotty

I enjoy interesting buildings, people, scenes . . . the texture and color
and feel of a place.  I couldn't say that there is any particular must see
among the standard sites that I haven't seen at least in passing.  But I
also couldn't say that I have captured the essential photo of  any one
place. So, in short, I am happy to wander and to let my eye be guided by
others who have seen the locale through different eyes. Its early morning,
don't know if I am making sense . . .

I'm completely free as a bird and don't mind where we meet. The only 
places I know well are Soho (worked there in 1980/81...no jokes ;-) and 
the West End in general. I enjoyed the area around Brick Lane...all those 
curry houses Vbg.

I also know the area around W11, Queensway and around the corner 'Khan's' 
where I ate several times a week with colleagues and friends all those 
years ago.

I'll go with the flow. Never been to Greenwich - would love to see the 
Cutty Sark..

All I need is a time and a place...and I'm there.

Cheers,

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Re: SMC Pentax K-Mount Short Telephoto Lens Poll

2002-09-23 Thread andre

FA77/f1.8 Limited
A*85/f1.4
A100/f2.8 Macro

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RE: Re[2]: WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff

2002-09-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Give me USPS any day over UPS.

UPS has bend over pricing and brokerage fees.

I love USPS - and I live in Canada :)

Cheers,
Dave


Original Message:
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From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:35:51 -0700
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re[2]: WARNING: U.S. Postal Service Ripoff


Stan,

Yeah, I just got a 2nd day package in four days mailed in the same
state by UPS.  They routed it incorrectly.  Not so much as a sorry
or anything.  I am happier with USPS.


Bruce



Monday, September 23, 2002, 9:26:09 AM, you wrote:

SH on 9/5/02 21:43, Fred at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not to malign UPS, but the USPS has done much better by me.
 2-3 days via USPS Priority Mail and cheap!
 
 My experience with USPS Priority Mail has been outstanding. Hundreds
 of shipments to and fro, and almost always within 3 days max, and
 never a lost shipment.  Never.
 
 Fred
 
 
 
SH Like he said.

SH That is my experience also. Biggest pain with UPS vs USPS: USPS has a
local
SH location to go to (called, quaintly, a Post Office) if you can't
arrange to
SH accept delivery at home. UPS has one warehouse on the other side of
town.

SH And, USPS is cheaper.

SH Just my not so humble opinion . . .

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Re: SMC Pentax K-Mount Short Telephoto Lens Poll

2002-09-23 Thread Arnold Stark

andre schrieb:

 FA77/f1.8 Limited
 A*85/f1.4
 A100/f2.8 Macro

Thanks!

Arnold




Re: Favourite Photo's

2002-09-23 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

1.  Joe Rosenthal' s photo of the second flag raising at Iwo Jima.
2.  Edgerton's shot of a bullet passing through an apple.
3.  The NASA shot of Earthrise taken from the moon.

Feroze Kistan wrote:

 Hi All,

 Just for interest sake, as I'm new to this list, and probally will help me
 to understand each ones quirks a bit better:

 Ok, I'm gonna steal somebody's idea here. Its 2005, world warIII has been
 declared, everbody has nuke's, you are designated to create a time capsuble
 to be placed in a bunker for all prosperity. One of the items you have to
 choose is 3 photographs of the 20th century that you would consider
 unreplaceable. It need not be your favourite photograper, but the one you
 felt had the most impact, let me start:

 1] The picture of a suspected VC spy being executed by the police during The
 Vietnam War
 2] The picture of a common pepper by Ansel Adams
 3] High heeled shoes in knickers by David Bailey.

 You can send them to me direct at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 TIA
 Feroze

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Re: Professional Gear

2002-09-23 Thread Pål Jensen

Bruce wrote:

Your homework
 assignment is to find out how many current production lenses Pentax has that
 meets these criteria.


Count all FA* and FA Limited lenses and the few odd A pro grade lenses still in 
production and you're all set. If you want to, you can count all Pentax MF lenses as 
well. No shortage of pro grade lenses. The situations is certanly far worse when 
coming to Pentax bodies.

Pål





Used lens prices (WAS: Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600)

2002-09-23 Thread Pål Jensen

Alin wrote:

No wonder. Who's mad enough to sink s in glass Pentax will no
longer support in digital? 

Will Pentax not support digital K-mount slr's? Have I been missing something?


I guess that soon after Photokina we'll
see on ebay an avalanche of Pentax items at derisory prices. Not
that it makes me happy...

Not only Pentax. Something is happening with the used market. Apart from the US 
and Japanese collector market, used prices has plummeted around here. The market is 
flowing over with used Canon EOS gear. Today, the guy in the camera shop asked me 
about the Canon EF 35-350 L lens he was about to perhaps buy. The fellow who was 
selling it was asking 1/3 of the new price and had tried for a long time to sell it. 
EOS 1 bodies goes for 1/4 of new prices. I advertized my FA645 45/2.8 lens in mid 
July. Today I finally sold it at 1/3 new price.

Pål




Supply source for Pentax plug

2002-09-23 Thread Cyril MARION

Hi all,

Do you know any supply source, which can provide me with a WINDER ME II
remote plug ?
This plug has 3 small holes and can be attached to the winder socket; its
metal cap can then be screwed to the winder.

I tried to do-it-myself by modifying a Drive A / four holes / PENTAX plug,
with black resin and a lot of patience, but the result is full of short
circuits.

Many thanks in advance,

C.MARION
www.pentaxiste.org





Re: Introduction and MZ-S data imprinting question

2002-09-23 Thread Heiko Hamann

Hi Tim,

on 23 Sep 02 you wrote in pentax.list:

First of all, being new here, I'd Just like to say hello =)

Welcome!

The imnprinting seems to be surrounded by a sort of 'halo' or smudge which
tends to make it very difficult to read. Is this normal, or has my
camera got some sort of fault in the imprinting device?

I actually don't own an MZ-S but I've downloaded the manual some time  
ago. It says that the imprint density may vary with different films. You  
can change the density with Pentax function 15 (should be explained on  
page 120 in your manual). Hope it helps.

Regards, Heiko




Re: SMC Pentax K-Mount Short Telephoto Lens Poll

2002-09-23 Thread Heiko Hamann

Hi Arnold,

on 23 Sep 02 you wrote in pentax.list:

1.: FA77/f1.8 Limited
2.: FA*85/f1.4 IF
3.: M100/f2.8


Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Heiko Hamann

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Pentax digital slr (WAS: Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600)

2002-09-23 Thread Pål Jensen

Bruce wrote:

 I have no idea why anyone seriously thought, as opposed to wished, that Pentax would 
sell a DSLR. 


People seriously thought so because Pentax have officially stated that they intend to 
manufacture K-mount digital slr's. I'll still think so until they state otherwise.


Pål




Re: Introduction and MZ-S data imprinting question

2002-09-23 Thread Pål Jensen

Tim wrote:

 The imnprinting seems to be surrounded by a sort of 'halo' or smudge which
 tends to make it very difficult to read. Is this normal, or has my
 camera got some sort of fault in the imprinting device?


Mine does not have a halo. It's very easy to read. Try a different film to make sure.

Pål





Re: Photokina watchers

2002-09-23 Thread Pål Jensen

Keith wrote:


 It's apparently a list of what they -- meaning Pentax Germany -- will
 be showing/displaying on their tables at the show. No mention of new products.


New products wont be mentioned before the show. Pentax is notoriously late in having 
late embargo dates. 
There are two possible reasons as to why it's utterly quiet from Pentax. One is that 
they have nothing to show. The second is that whatever they have to show is under 
strict embargo. If you're among the pessimistic crowd the first explanation may seem 
most likely. I would have been among those if it weren't for the fact that no one had 
stated that Pentax will NOT show a digital slr at Photokina. What I try to say is that 
having nothing cannot be under embargo. 


Pål




Re: Barcelona assignment

2002-09-23 Thread Juan J. Buhler


Hey Gienfranco,

I'm sure you can feel the waves of envy from there...

Have fun in Barcelona!

j


On Sat, 21 Sep 2002, Gianfranco Irlanda wrote:

 Hi everybody,
 
 I'm going to fly to my first *paid* assignment abroad, in
 Barcelona, starting from the 2nd of October.
 I'll have to take pictures of sociological importance (like
 local identities, urban poverty, gentrification and so on...)
 and probably I'll be accompanied by a Spanish student.
 Is any list member located in Barcelona or close? I recall at
 least Jaume should live there.
 I don't know how much spare time I'm going to have (I'll arrive
 at noon of the 2nd and I'll leave on the 7th, late morning).
 If someone is close enough and has the time it would be nice to
 meet you, have a drink and talk about photography (and Pentax,
 of course...).
 
 Ciao,
 
 Gianfranco
 
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Sky, UV, Haze filters?

2002-09-23 Thread Dan Scott

O Sages, speak to me...

What the heck is the difference between Sky, UV,  and Haze filters?

Are they all the same thing? It sounds like they are to me, but 
manufacturers frequently offer two or all three side by side, so I can't 
be right.

How are they different, and cirumstances would cause me to prefer this 
one or that one? Does a polarizing filter eliminate the use of the three?

Dan Scott (in the land off big Sky, strong Haze and intense UV)




Re: Photokina watchers

2002-09-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have discussed this with a couple of my regular photo stores in Toronto
(Henry's and Downtown Camera).  Downtown camera did confirm that they don't
have a clue what Pentax is doing because even the Pentax Rep doesn't really
say much.

Apparently when those digibino binocular things were released, Downtown
camera didn't know anything about them until their rep came in and plopped
a demo unit on the counter and said digital binoculars and handed
literature and then walked out the door.  This was just after they were
announced.

So it wouldn't surprise me if Pentax did have something up their sleeves
but seeing as how they're very tight lipped, I'm not holding my breath
either.

Cheers,
Dave


Original Message:
-
From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 20:09:24 +0200
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Photokina watchers


Keith wrote:


 It's apparently a list of what they -- meaning Pentax Germany -- will
 be showing/displaying on their tables at the show. No mention of new
products.


New products wont be mentioned before the show. Pentax is notoriously late
in having late embargo dates. 
There are two possible reasons as to why it's utterly quiet from Pentax.
One is that they have nothing to show. The second is that whatever they
have to show is under strict embargo. If you're among the pessimistic crowd
the first explanation may seem most likely. I would have been among those
if it weren't for the fact that no one had stated that Pentax will NOT show
a digital slr at Photokina. What I try to say is that having nothing cannot
be under embargo. 


Pål




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Re: Re: (2): PUG deadline gone!

2002-09-23 Thread David Brooks

Duly noted and recorded:)

Dave

 Begin Original Message 

From: Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:00:49 -0400 (EDT)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: (2): PUG deadline gone!


yup, but  I think the red 29 will do better han a 25



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? replacement for my Tokina 50-250

2002-09-23 Thread Arathi-Sridhar

Hi.
My Tokina 50-250 ATX 4-5.6 is giving significant flare/ghost images on long
exposure (multisecond). First time it was the moon I overexposed (my fault
ofcouse) and I got another 'moon' which was a reflection from the internal
elements (I guess thats what a ghost image is). This time it was a couple of
bright red 'lights' which werent there... another multisecond exposure of
the night from my window. Yes, there was a bright neon light at the same
level..
* What am I doing wrong?
The rest of the picture was nice (laymen appreciated it) and maybe I havent
overexposed.
* Probably the lens is very much prone for flare, and that I need to think
of a replacement?
Thanks.
-Sridhar





Re: LX (i know its not friday)

2002-09-23 Thread Dan Scott


On Monday, September 23, 2002, at 07:30  AM, CBWaters wrote:

 I notice you didn't say *MY* left nut...  nice of you to offer someone
 else's uh... property in trade :)))

 Cory Waters
 was up late last night at the Falcons game

(Psst...Cory. Did you SEE his self-portrait? He probably has a 
collection in a big pickle jar somewhere)

Dan Scott dr




Re: Introduction and MZ-S data imprinting question

2002-09-23 Thread Kristian Walsh

Mine has that halo, but only on negative film; on transparency film 
it's perfectly sharp.

--
Kristian


On Monday, Sep 23, 2002, at 19:11 Europe/Dublin, Pål Jensen wrote:

 Tim wrote:

 The imnprinting seems to be surrounded by a sort of 'halo' or smudge 
 which
 tends to make it very difficult to read. Is this normal, or has my
 camera got some sort of fault in the imprinting device?


 Mine does not have a halo. It's very easy to read. Try a different 
 film to make sure.

 Pål






Re: Introduction and MZ-S data imprinting question

2002-09-23 Thread Brad Dobo

You can change the density of the data imprinting with one of the Pentax
Functions.  I haven't changed mine, so I don't know if you'll get rid of the
so-called 'halo'.  As for me, I use a good loupe to view that data if need
beit's easy with magnification, but definitely more difficult without it
and especially without good light.

Brad Dobo
- Original Message -
From: Tim Preston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 1:25 PM
Subject: Introduction and MZ-S data imprinting question



 First of all, being new here, I'd Just like to say hello =)

 I've been using an SF-7 for a number of years that I bought secondhand as
 a camera that could do a reasonable job of point  shoot yet would let
 me twiddle with everything. It did the job I asked it to do.

 Now I've bought myself an MZ-S, it's complete overkill really, but I
 intend to try and grow into it. However I have a quick question about
 the data imprinting.

 The imnprinting seems to be surrounded by a sort of 'halo' or smudge which
 tends to make it very difficult to read. Is this normal, or has my
 camera got some sort of fault in the imprinting device?


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So much stuff without style
  It's hard to recognise a real thing
  That comes along once in a while





Taking the 67II out to Big Bend NP

2002-09-23 Thread Jan van Wijk

Hi all,

Just want to warn you,  if you happen to visit the Big Bend NP on
the border of Texas and Mexico in two weeks, you might run
into a lunatic carrying arround a 67II with a few lenses and tripod.

After doing some presentations on a computer show in Austin
I will be driving and hiking for almost a week. Hope the temperature
is a bit lower than the last time I was there (April 1989, with an MX :-)

Regards, Jan van Wijk 
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Re: LX (i know its not friday)

2002-09-23 Thread Brad Dobo

I prefer using a freezer, not a pickle jar :)

PsychoBrad :)

- Original Message - 
From: Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: LX (i know its not friday)


 
 On Monday, September 23, 2002, at 07:30  AM, CBWaters wrote:
 
  I notice you didn't say *MY* left nut...  nice of you to offer someone
  else's uh... property in trade :)))
 
  Cory Waters
  was up late last night at the Falcons game
 
 (Psst...Cory. Did you SEE his self-portrait? He probably has a 
 collection in a big pickle jar somewhere)
 
 Dan Scott dr
 




Re: SMC Pentax K-Mount Short Telephoto Lens Poll

2002-09-23 Thread Tom Davis

Hi all,

I've been a lurker for going on two years for this group, have bought
equipment from several of its members (thanks Boz!), and now have decided to
come out with my fave rave telephotos.

Since I'm mostly interested in portraiture, my picks would be:

1. FA77/f1.8 Limited (thank you, Peter, for the black version!): the single
best combination of sharpness, three-dimensionality, bokeh, and
non-intimidating size.

2. M85/f2 best street combo with my ME Super, it handles better than the
77LTD, and shows off faces to best effect (i.e. not *too* sharp)

3. A*85/f1.4, don't own it, would love to, but hesitate because of its
front-element you're staring at a huge lens effect; I like low-key work
with people. Still

Tom Davis
Associate Professor of Philosophy and Chair
Department of Philosophy
Whitman College


 From: Arnold Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 19:15:22 +0200
 To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: SMC Pentax K-Mount Short Telephoto Lens Poll
 Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:23:36 -0400
 
 Hello PDML,
 
 here comes the SMC Pentax K-Mount Short Telephoto Prime Lens Poll
 
 This time all members of the PDML are invited to choose 3 lenses among
 the SMC Pentax K-mount primes with focal length between 77mm and 105mm.
 
 Please imagine that you have no short telephoto prime lens for your
 k-mount camera. Also imagine that you have more than enough money and a
 good opportunity to buy k-mount SMC Pentax short prime lenses. What SMC
 Pentax k-mount lens would you like to get most (1st choice)? What lens
 would you pick as your 2nd choice, if your first choice was not
 available? What lens would you pick as your 3rd choice (if your 1st and
 2nd choice were not available)? Please choose among the following
 lenses:
 
 FA77/f1.8 Limited
 A*85/f1.4
 FA*85/f1.4 IF
 K85/f1.8
 M85/f2
 K85/f2.2 Soft
 F85/f2.8 Soft
 FA85/f2.8 Soft
 M100/f2.8
 A100/f2.8
 A100/f2.8 Macro
 F100/f2.8 Macro
 FA100/f2.8 Macro
 FA100/f3.5 Macro
 K100/f4 Macro
 M100/f4 Macro
 A100/f4 Macro
 K105/f2.8
 
 Rules:
 
 1.) Pick your 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice. You may choose less than 3 but
 not more than 3 choices.
 
 2.) Please send your vote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exception: Send your
 vote to the PDML if you have commented your choices, and you want the
 members of the PDML to know your comments.
 
 3.) I will count all votes that are sent before Thursday, September
 26th, 21:00 hours German time.
 
 Have fun with this poll, too, and thanks in advance for
 contributing.
 
 Arnold
 
 




LX shutter speed question

2002-09-23 Thread Frank Knapik

Hello. When using the LX in manual mode, are the shutter speeds stepless?
As always, thank you.

Francis




Re: SMC Pentax K-Mount Short Telephoto Lens Poll

2002-09-23 Thread Arnold Stark

Hello Tom Davis,

 I've been a lurker for going on two years for this group, have bought
 equipment from several of its members (thanks Boz!), and now have decided to
 come out with my fave rave telephotos.

Welcome!!!

And thanks for your vote!!!

Arnold




Re: 28-80 v/s 28-105

2002-09-23 Thread Brad Dobo

Interesting, I didn't know there was a powerzoom model of itwould there
be optical difference since mine is plain old manual zoom?  Oh ya, and I
know the 24-90 is better, just looking for a good excuse to buy it :)

Brad Dobo
- Original Message -
From: Gianfranco Irlanda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: 28-80 v/s 28-105


 Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  HehehI'm glad I'm not the only vain one! :)  I have the
 older FA
  28-105mm 1:4-5.6 [IF].  I asked for comments on this before
 (mainly hoping
  for someone to tell me it sucks so I could justify buying the
 24-90mm)  I
  don't remember getting any.  From my own limited experience it
 is a decent
  lens.  The new version with the AL elements is no doubt
 better, lighter, and
  requires a smaller filter (dunno what size, but mine is 62mm)


 Hi Brad,

 You made me recall a test in Spotmatic magazine: they compared
 the FA 28-105 (the powerzoom version) to the 24-90. The 24-90
 wins hand down, especially wrt flare resistance and overall
 sharpness. I don't know if it is available on the AOHC website,
 though.

 Gianfranco

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 http://sbc.yahoo.com





Re: Favourite Photo's

2002-09-23 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

1.  Berlin Wall coming down.
2.  VJ day on the USS Missouri
3.  Lenin's statue toppling





RE: Favourite Photo's

2002-09-23 Thread Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce)

No pepper was ever made famous by having Ansel Adams take its picture.

From: Feroze Kistan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2] The picture of a common pepper by Ansel Adams




RE: Pentax digital slr (WAS: Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600)

2002-09-23 Thread Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce)

I think you left out the bit where they mumble, when the time is right. This is a 
code phrase for, three weeks after pigs fly.


From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E5l_Jensen?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
People seriously thought so because Pentax have officially stated that they intend to 
manufacture K-mount digital slr's. I'll still think so until they state otherwise.




Re: LX shutter speed question

2002-09-23 Thread Jose R. Rodriguez

Francis,

I believe that only the automatically controlled shutter speeds (1/2000th second to 
125 seconds) are stepless.  The manual speeds are mechanically controlled from 
1/2000th second to X (1/75th second) and electronically controlled from 1/60th 
second to 4 seconds.

Regards,

Jose R. Rodriguez


 
 From: Frank Knapik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2002/09/23 Mon PM 02:29:18 CDT
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: LX shutter speed question
 
 Hello. When using the LX in manual mode, are the shutter speeds stepless?
 As always, thank you.
 
 Francis
 
 




vanity

2002-09-23 Thread Feroze Kistan

I'm not vain Brad, (love e-mail, you can't see my face) I just find is
soo hard to take a two tone camera
seriously g mind you I also have a k1000 and an ericsson T20e in silver
and purple, never had a pair of two tone shoes though, that's for old people

I'm a graphic/clothing designer, colour is very important to me, right

feroze





e-mail add

2002-09-23 Thread Feroze Kistan

Hey at least you knew where I was talking about, and don't blame me the
largest bigfoot I've seen in africa was made by ford and was used it to
squash
cars
 Wouldn't by any chance know Chris's e-mail or the shops contact details
would ya?

Thanks
Feroze





Re: vanity

2002-09-23 Thread Brad Dobo

All semantics! :)

Brad Dobo
- Original Message -
From: Feroze Kistan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 4:01 PM
Subject: vanity


 I'm not vain Brad, (love e-mail, you can't see my face) I just find is
 soo hard to take a two tone camera
 seriously g mind you I also have a k1000 and an ericsson T20e in silver
 and purple, never had a pair of two tone shoes though, that's for old
people

 I'm a graphic/clothing designer, colour is very important to me, right

 feroze






Re:OT:Where is Albano?

2002-09-23 Thread Albano_Garcia


Here I am. Alive and kicking. Shooting few.
Thanks for asking (and caring)
Regards

Albano







Re: Taking the 67II out to Big Bend NP

2002-09-23 Thread Dan Scott


On Monday, September 23, 2002, at 02:12  PM, Jan van Wijk wrote:

 Hi all,

 Just want to warn you,  if you happen to visit the Big Bend NP on
 the border of Texas and Mexico in two weeks, you might run
 into a lunatic carrying arround a 67II with a few lenses and tripod.

 After doing some presentations on a computer show in Austin
 I will be driving and hiking for almost a week. Hope the temperature
 is a bit lower than the last time I was there (April 1989, with an 
 MX :-)

 Regards, Jan van Wijk
 --
 Jan van Wijk;   http://www.dfsee.com/gallery



Big Bend is a great park, I've been going there since I was 16. Have you 
been up on the Mesa de Anguila? It's the American side of Santa Elena 
Canyon/ Nice views out into an even more attractive section of Mexico. 
Stay away from it if you see any dark clouds, though (snap, crackle,  
pop).

Hope you have a great time!

Dan Scott




Re: Re[4]: UK trip in October, maybe

2002-09-23 Thread Stan Halpin

on 9/23/02 5:43, Rob Brigham at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Have you done the London Eye?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Stan Halpin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 23 September 2002 11:36
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Re[4]: UK trip in October, maybe
 
 
 
 From: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 08:45:29 +0100
 Subject: Re[4]: UK trip in October, maybe
 
 Hi Stan,
 
 . . . 
 
 Are there any particular sights or aspects of London that you're
 especially keen to see? Have you been here before?
 
 Bob, this will be my 8th or 9th trip to U.K. in the last 20
 years. The last two visits were primarily in London. (All
 visits of one week or more). So I have seen a bit of the
 city. On my last visit, in early summer, 2000, I spent my
 free evenings  and one afternoon hopscotching about the city:
 take the tube for a ways, pop above ground, wander the
 environs for a while, often walking to the next tube stop,
 then back down for a jaunt to another almost randomly chosen area.
 
 I enjoy interesting buildings, people, scenes . . . the
 texture and color and feel of a place.  I couldn't say that
 there is any particular must see among the standard sites
 that I haven't seen at least in passing.  But I also couldn't
 say that I have captured the essential photo of  any one
 place. So, in short, I am happy to wander and to let my eye
 be guided by others who have seen the locale through
 different eyes. Its early morning, don't know if I am making
 sense . . .
 
 stan
 
 
 
 
I don't know it so must be I haven't. What/where is the eye?

stan




Re: Favourite Photo's

2002-09-23 Thread frank theriault

Hi, Bob,

Comments interspersed with your text:

Bob Walkden wrote:

 Hi,

 if the criterion for inclusion is impact

That was what I chose for one of the criteria.  I don't think that everyone else has
to, and I didn't mean to imply that others have to - just a personal choice is all.
There were other criteria involved as well, I just didn't articulate them.

 , presumably meaning
 world-changing impact, I suppose we'd have to be thinking about things
 like Rosalind Franklin's photographs (are they photographs?) of the
 structure of DNA,

Did that change anything, or did it record/confirm what experiments told us that DNA
would look like?

 perhaps Mohammed Amin's photos of the 1984 famine in
 Ethiopia,

Absolutely.  Those photos mobilized the world to gather relief for those famine
victims, and raised awareness of conditions in third world countries.

 the photos of the missile bases in Cuba in 1962, the Nazi
 concentration camps.

 I'm not sure that individual photographs change things very much. I
 think that in general change is the result of many photos and a great
 deal of writing, and TV and so on.

True, but some photos have more impact than others.  The photo of Kim Phuc is an
example.  Did it turn the tide of American or possibly world opinion against America's
involvement in Vietnam?  On it's own, no.  But it was more powerful than many other
images, and more influential than many others, I think.



 Photos of great events such as the Berlin Wall coming down didn't
 change anything, they are just memorable records of an event that was
 happening anyway.

Agreed

 The same is probably true of some of the others
 listed here, such as the Kent State photo. It may have had a lot of
 impact in the USA, but it doesn't mean much outside.

It had a great deal of impact in the US, to be sure.  I chose it, not only because of
it's impact, but because I think it's a great photo.  The anguished cry coming from
the girl over her fallen fellow student is heartwrenching, no matter what situation
gave rise to it.  In fact, it did provide the anti-war movement with a great deal of
public sympathy (and I make no comment as to whether that was a good or bad thing -
the fact is that it did happen that way).

 Capa's photos
 didn't really change anything on a global scale.

No more or less than another photo of a death during a war, I suppose (speaking of the
Spanish Civil War photo).  As a photo (and I realize that there is some controversy as
to whether the shot is real or staged), I think that (assuming it to be a genuine
photograph of the moment of death), I can think of few other photos that capture the
decisive moment as this one does.  I suppose the fact that we're still fighting
wars, and people are still dying speaks to the fact that it's impact is/was fleeting
at best.



 I like the idea of including some of Bailey's photos, particularly of
 say Twiggy or Jean Shrimpton because they really did change things,
 despite their apparent superficiality.

Which is why they should be in your three photos, I suppose.  vbg

regards,
frank

--
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it
is true. -J. Robert
Oppenheimer





Re: Pentax digital slr

2002-09-23 Thread Dan Scott


On Monday, September 23, 2002, at 05:04  PM, Cotty wrote:

 Bruce,

 You *do* realise that if Pentax announce the DSLR at Photokina, you will
 have to submit a photo to the PUG featuring youself and a pie?

 A very HUMBLE pie

 And EATING it

 ALL of it...

 ;-)

 Cotty

Cotty,

What are humbles and where are they located? The only hint I've ever 
seen was in a Discworld book, though I'm not sure if the hint was 
humorous, factual, both, or neither.

And I hope for you guys that there will be a K-DSLR shown, but for me, 
I'm hoping the first one will be priced out of my means, followed in the 
next year or two by one I can afford.

Dan Scott




Re: Favourite Photo's

2002-09-23 Thread Christian Skofteland

1. Kevin Carter's 1994 Pulitzer Prize winner of a starving child in the Sudan 
with a vulture in the background.

2. Steve McCurry's Afghan girl

3. The photo of Buzz Aldrin made by Neil Armstrong on the moon.

On Monday 23 September 2002 10:54, Feroze Kistan wrote:
 Hi All,

 Just for interest sake, as I'm new to this list, and probally will help me
 to understand each ones quirks a bit better:

 Ok, I'm gonna steal somebody's idea here. Its 2005, world warIII has been
 declared, everbody has nuke's, you are designated to create a time capsuble
 to be placed in a bunker for all prosperity. One of the items you have to
 choose is 3 photographs of the 20th century that you would consider
 unreplaceable. It need not be your favourite photograper, but the one you
 felt had the most impact, let me start:

 1] The picture of a suspected VC spy being executed by the police during
 The Vietnam War
 2] The picture of a common pepper by Ansel Adams
 3] High heeled shoes in knickers by David Bailey.

 You can send them to me direct at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 TIA
 Feroze




Re: [OT] need help from Domke F-2 users

2002-09-23 Thread Bob Walkden

Hi,

Monday, September 23, 2002, 11:16:41 PM, you wrote:

 I'm considering buying this bag, and as usual I'd like to know your opinion.
 1. What are you experiences with the F-2 (if any of course :) ?
 2. Canvas or ballistic?
 3. And the most important - how much gear do you fit in, and how
 comfotable/uncomfortable it is when it's full/almost full?

I have a black canvas one which I bought in about 1996. It's been in
various parts of Africa, India and Eastern Europe, Western Europe and
the UK. They're very tough bags and worth having. They weather
beautifully - mine has a strap that is still red with the dirt of
Ethiopia, despite several times through the washing machine. They are
also good in rainstorms - very protective.

The rubber in the grippy strap wears after a few years, but it doesn't
make a huge difference. The straps never twist or get rolled up, which
is a good thing.

When it's full it's too heavy to be comfortable for any length of
time, but this would be true of any bag of that size.

I've made modifications to the inserts of my bag to suit different needs.
But I find it most useful for working from when I don't use the inserts at
all. Instead I keep the rigid base in, and use one or 2 beanbags for
keeping the cameras stable inside. I tend to keep 2 cameras (slrs) with
lenses attached in the main compartment. In the side and end pockets I
keep film, notebooks, pens, Leica table-top tripod and other bits and
pieces.

---

 Bob  

I don't know much about Art, but I know what I hate
 Montgomery Burns, The Simpsons




Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600

2002-09-23 Thread Dan Scott


On Monday, September 23, 2002, at 05:33  PM, Shaun Canning wrote:

 From: Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon Sep 23, 2002  05:33:10  PM US/Central

 Why wouldn't you be able to use k-mount glass on a Pentax DSLR? If it 
 uses
 the k-mount, the only change may be the increase in focal length 
 associated
 with smaller than 35mm format sensor areas. (i.e. the 1.4x magnifying
 effect). For many this would be great, as it would extend the range of
 lenses for free.

 Shaun



It doesn't really extend the range so much as it shifts it. And, for 
those of us who like to be at the wide view of things, it moves us smack 
out into the  middle. I hope, that if Pentax pursues that path, they 
concurrently issue a set of really nice wide angles that fill the 
traditional niches (15-16, 18-20, 24, 28, 31, 35, etc.)

Dan Scott




Re: Favourite Photo's

2002-09-23 Thread Dan Scott


On Monday, September 23, 2002, at 03:40  PM, frank theriault wrote:

 An impossible task, really.  I know that three isn't enough, and that 
 I'll think
 of dozens more once I send this one off, but here are the first three 
 that pop
 into my head, and these aren't the ~real~ titles, I suspect:

 Migrant Worker Mother by Dorothea Lange
 Kim Phuc Running from Bombed Village by Tom Ut
 Concentration Camp Survivors by Margaret Bourke-White

 IMHO, not only are they amazing photos in their own right, but it can 
 be said
 that their impact ignited outrage and/or social change.

 Following closely on their heels, for me (I'm sorry, three isn't 
 enough):

 Death of a Spanish Civil War Soldier by Capa,
 D-Day Landing by Capa
 Screaming Girl At Kent State University Over Dead Body, I can't 
 remember who
 it's by...

 Okay, I've already cheated enough.  Wish I could go on, though!

 -frank


That works for me, too. Well picked.

Dan Scott




Re: Re[2]: Favourite Photo's

2002-09-23 Thread Rfsindg

Bob,

I'd have to agree with the direction you are going here.  The only picture I think is 
a standout so far is Dan M.'s suggestion of the NASA picture of the earth rising from 
the moon.  I believe the PICTURES themselves of our planet from space helped us 
visualize where we were and push the ecology movement.

Regards,  Bob S.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,
 
 if the criterion for inclusion is impact, presumably meaning
 world-changing impact, I suppose we'd have to be thinking about things
 like Rosalind Franklin's photographs (are they photographs?) of the
 structure of DNA, perhaps Mohammed Amin's photos of the 1984 famine in
 Ethiopia, the photos of the missile bases in Cuba in 1962, the Nazi
 concentration camps.
 
 I'm not sure that individual photographs change things very much. I
 think that in general change is the result of many photos and a great
 deal of writing, and TV and so on.
 
 Photos of great events such as the Berlin Wall coming down didn't
 change anything, they are just memorable records of an event that was
 happening anyway. The same is probably true of some of the others
 listed here, such as the Kent State photo. It may have had a lot of
 impact in the USA, but it doesn't mean much outside. Capa's photos
 didn't really change anything on a global scale.
 
 I like the idea of including some of Bailey's photos, particularly of
 say Twiggy or Jean Shrimpton because they really did change 
 things,
 despite their apparent superficiality.





Re: Favourite Photo's

2002-09-23 Thread Bruce Rubenstein

It was Edward Weston: http://www.edward-weston.com/natural_studies.html

From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I haven't looked it up yet, but offhand, wasn't that Imogene Cunningham?
I'll get back to ya later on that one...




Re: Supply source for Pentax plug

2002-09-23 Thread Peter Alling

BH photo has this item in stock according to their web site.
http://www02.bhphotovideo.com



At 08:02 PM 9/23/2002 +0200, you wrote:
Hi all,

Do you know any supply source, which can provide me with a WINDER ME II
remote plug ?
This plug has 3 small holes and can be attached to the winder socket; its
metal cap can then be screwed to the winder.

I tried to do-it-myself by modifying a Drive A / four holes / PENTAX plug,
with black resin and a lot of patience, but the result is full of short
circuits.

Many thanks in advance,

C.MARION
www.pentaxiste.org




RE: Pentax digital slr

2002-09-23 Thread Bruce Rubenstein

It thought that it would be just the catalyst needed to get a PDML NYC group
together. For those using AF cameras I promise to stand in bright light and
eat slowly.

BR

From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bruce,

You *do* realise that if Pentax announce the DSLR at Photokina, you will
have to submit a photo to the PUG featuring youself and a pie?

A very HUMBLE pie

And EATING it

ALL of it...





DLSR Lens Range: Was SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600

2002-09-23 Thread Shaun Canning

Hi Dan,

I'm sure that Pentax would have thought of that if indeed a DSLR were in the
pipeline. Otherwise, there are some fine wide-angle zooms being produced by
Sigma and Tokina that will do the job. For instance the 14mm, 17-35mm or
even the new 15-30mm zooms. Plenty of wide angle range there for all who
could need or want it.
Cheers

Shaun Canning
PhD Student
Department of Archaeology
School of European and Historical Studies
La Trobe University, Bundoora, Vic, 3086.

Phone: 0414-967644
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Dan Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2002 8:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600


On Monday, September 23, 2002, at 05:33  PM, Shaun Canning wrote:

 From: Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon Sep 23, 2002  05:33:10  PM US/Central

 Why wouldn't you be able to use k-mount glass on a Pentax DSLR? If it
 uses
 the k-mount, the only change may be the increase in focal length
 associated
 with smaller than 35mm format sensor areas. (i.e. the 1.4x magnifying
 effect). For many this would be great, as it would extend the range of
 lenses for free.

 Shaun



It doesn't really extend the range so much as it shifts it. And, for
those of us who like to be at the wide view of things, it moves us smack
out into the  middle. I hope, that if Pentax pursues that path, they
concurrently issue a set of really nice wide angles that fill the
traditional niches (15-16, 18-20, 24, 28, 31, 35, etc.)

Dan Scott




Pentax, Heliopan or B+W filters?

2002-09-23 Thread B G

Hi! Actually it is my very first question set here!
I need to know your experience, knowledge or opinion about filters from 
Pentax, Heliopan and B+W. I think about polarizing, warming and yellow 
multicoated filters. I got impression that Heliopan and B+W are the best, 
but that best is actually without comparison to Pentax filters. I wonder 
about scratch resistance, easyness of cleaning, quality of mount, neutrality 
(in case of polarizer), flare or other image degradation, variety and 
ability to make mixed brand sets, say for different gradation of warming or 
darkening sky.
Why brass is better than aluminum?

I have very limited experience with filters. Once (and long ago) I had a 
Russian linear polarizer, buy it had marked greenish tint, so I could not 
use it for color slides.

Thanks! Gleb Baida

http://GlebBaida.photosight.ru (images are in 'common language':^)
http://www.photocritique.net/cgi-bin/phtg?xx+GLEB+BAIDA





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ZX7

2002-09-23 Thread Susi Burt

Hi all -

I am new to this forum and am a current owner of a Pentax ZX-7 with a Pentax 28-80mm 
F/3.5-5.6 lens that came with it.  I use to be into photography many years ago 
(15+years) and am slowly getting back into it.  Loved my ME Super when I used it back 
then and decided to stay with Pentax as I relearn photography.  My questions to this 
forum are:

1) I believe this Pentax 28-80mm lens to be not of good quality.  Is this the general 
census as well?

2) Thinking about replacing this slow lens with a Tokina AF 28-70mm AT-X-PRO II 
F/2.6-2.8.  Is there any compatability problems?

3) Why is it that my local camera shops here in Northern California do not support the 
pentax brand as much as Nikon or Cannon?  I've called all my local dealers to see if 
they carry Tokina lens for Pentax mount and none carry them.  They only seem to carry 
3rd party manufacturer stuff for Nikon and Cannon.  Whats the deal here?

Thanks in advance for all your help

Susi




Re: DLSR Lens Range: Was SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600

2002-09-23 Thread Bruce Dayton

Shaun,

While Sigma has a couple of very wide lenses, when you multiply the
focal length of a 14/15mm lens by 1.5 you end up with a 21/23mm lens.
Not all that wide.  So for those who really love wide, be aware of
this transition.


Bruce



Monday, September 23, 2002, 5:01:27 PM, you wrote:

SC Hi Dan,

SC I'm sure that Pentax would have thought of that if indeed a DSLR were in the
SC pipeline. Otherwise, there are some fine wide-angle zooms being produced by
SC Sigma and Tokina that will do the job. For instance the 14mm, 17-35mm or
SC even the new 15-30mm zooms. Plenty of wide angle range there for all who
SC could need or want it.
SC Cheers

SC Shaun Canning
SC PhD Student
SC Department of Archaeology
SC School of European and Historical Studies
SC La Trobe University, Bundoora, Vic, 3086.

SC Phone: 0414-967644
SC e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SC -Original Message-
SC From: Dan Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
SC Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2002 8:50 AM
SC To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SC Subject: Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600


SC On Monday, September 23, 2002, at 05:33  PM, Shaun Canning wrote:

 From: Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon Sep 23, 2002  05:33:10  PM US/Central

 Why wouldn't you be able to use k-mount glass on a Pentax DSLR? If it
 uses
 the k-mount, the only change may be the increase in focal length
 associated
 with smaller than 35mm format sensor areas. (i.e. the 1.4x magnifying
 effect). For many this would be great, as it would extend the range of
 lenses for free.

 Shaun



SC It doesn't really extend the range so much as it shifts it. And, for
SC those of us who like to be at the wide view of things, it moves us smack
SC out into the  middle. I hope, that if Pentax pursues that path, they
SC concurrently issue a set of really nice wide angles that fill the
SC traditional niches (15-16, 18-20, 24, 28, 31, 35, etc.)

SC Dan Scott




Re: 67 Questions

2002-09-23 Thread Martin Albrecht

Hello,

i'm a little late on this,
but you can find some info about 6X7 projectors at:
http://people.smu.edu/rmonagha/bronslideproj.html
and
http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/proj_667.htm

I bought an used Liesegang Diafant 6x7 on ebay two weeks
ago (370 Euro) and i'm very satisfied with it, the projected
image is far superior to 24mmx36mm, my screen is 2m x 2m.
Info about it can be found at:
http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/linhproj.htm
The sharpness of the lens (2,8/150) is good,
it resolves the grain at the blue sky right to the edges
(Provia 100F).
BTW has somebody experience with 6x7 glassless mounts
(8,5x8,5 cm)? I don't like glass-mounts because of the
risk of fungal growth and other moisture related problems,
but i don't know, if it is possible to achieve a acceptable
sharp picture across the whole frame with glassless mounts.

Martin Albrecht




Re: ZX7

2002-09-23 Thread Bruce Dayton

Susi,

Welcome to the list.  I am also located in Northern California just
outside of Sacramento.  As to the lens quality - you are basically
correct.  To some degree, you get what you pay for.  Consumer 28-80
zooms from any manufacturer that cost so very little are all pretty
mediocre.  I used to have the Tokina 28-70 Pro II that you mentioned
and found it to be very nice.  The speed is great, as is the optical
quality and build quality.  Two downsides, however.  First, it is
pretty prone to flare compared to SMC glass.  You should use the
provided hood and be careful.  Second, it is quite heavy and will be a
bit nose heavy on your ZX-7.  Another lens to consider is the Pentax
24-90/3.5-4.5.  It answers the weaknesses of the Tokina, much better
flare control, and lighter weight for balancing on the light ZX
bodies.  Optically it is suppposed to be quite good.  It also has a
better zoom range. It is not built as well and not as fast.  Just a
thought.

As to availability of anything Pentax or for Pentax, you are going to
have to get used to mail order.  Pentax marketing has been quite lame
for many years and they just haven't done much to penetrate the
market.  If you are near Sacramento, Action Camera in Roseville (my
town) carries Pentax Medium Format and entry level 35mm along with a
full Nikon offering.  They are the only store around here that I have
found to deal much at all with Pentax.

Good luck and welcome aboard!

Bruce



Monday, September 23, 2002, 5:08:46 PM, you wrote:

SB Hi all -

SB I am new to this forum and am a current owner of a Pentax ZX-7 with a Pentax 
28-80mm F/3.5-5.6 lens that came with it.  I use to be into photography many years ago 
(15+years) and am slowly
SB getting back into it.  Loved my ME Super when I used it back then and decided to 
stay with Pentax as I relearn photography.  My questions to this forum are:

SB 1) I believe this Pentax 28-80mm lens to be not of good quality.  Is this the 
general census as well?

SB 2) Thinking about replacing this slow lens with a Tokina AF 28-70mm AT-X-PRO II 
F/2.6-2.8.  Is there any compatability problems?

SB 3) Why is it that my local camera shops here in Northern California do not support 
the pentax brand as much as Nikon or Cannon?  I've called all my local dealers to 
see if they carry Tokina
SB lens for Pentax mount and none carry them.  They only seem to carry 3rd party 
manufacturer stuff for Nikon and Cannon.  Whats the deal here?

SB Thanks in advance for all your help

SB Susi




Re: Favourite Photo's

2002-09-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele


Feroze Kistan wrote:

 Hi All,

 (snip)
 2] The picture of a common pepper by Ansel Adams


Um, perhaps you mean by Edward Weston?

I'm not sure I'm up to playing this game in earnest just now, but
for St. Ansel I'd take Moonrise Over Hernandez, New Mexico
if he had to be included.

annsan








Re: Favourite Photo's

2002-09-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele

frank theriault wrote:

 An impossible task, really. [making that 3 in a capsule choice]  I know that three
 isn't enough,..

 Kim Phuc Running from Bombed Village by Tom Ut
 Screaming Girl At Kent State University Over Dead Body, I can't remember who
 it's by...
 -frank
 -

These horrific images will always linger with me, too - but this becomes a very
intense
and sad game.

annsan








Re: SMC Pentax K-Mount Short Telephoto Lens Poll

2002-09-23 Thread David S.

1. FA100/f2.8 Macro

Excellent lens, true macro  fast short telephoto all in one lens.

-- 
David S.
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Re: SMC Pentax K-Mount Short Telephoto Lens Poll

2002-09-23 Thread Rob Studdert

On 23 Sep 2002 at 12:22, Tom Davis wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I've been a lurker for going on two years for this group, have bought
 equipment from several of its members (thanks Boz!), and now have decided to
 come out with my fave rave telephotos.

 3. A*85/f1.4, don't own it, would love to, but hesitate because of its
 front-element you're staring at a huge lens effect; I like low-key work
 with people. Still

Hi Tom,

It's great to see that you have de-lurked :-)

The A*85/f1.4 is an amazing lens and whilst the front element is large it's not 
as bad as you might imagine especially if you couple it with a straight tubular 
Heliopan hood. It is invaluable for natural portraiture in low light, I 
particularly enjoy using it when shooting pub bands or similar subjects. The 
view through the LX with SE-60 is amazing :-)

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
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Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600

2002-09-23 Thread Rob Studdert

On 23 Sep 2002 at 13:23, Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) wrote:

 I have no idea why anyone seriously thought, as opposed to wished, that Pentax
 would sell a DSLR. People who have a need for digital have, and will, find other
 solutions.

What about the users poor bloody Pentax users that simply don't want to have to 
slam a slab of cash out for an equivalent set of crap Nikon or Canon glass :-(

Been there played with them, not impressed.

Cheers,

Rob

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RE: Introduction and MZ-S data imprinting question

2002-09-23 Thread John Coyle

Welcome Tim - this can be a really good group, if a little intense at 
times!
For your problem, set the data imprinting intensity, function 15, at a 
lower level - I have mine set to 3 at the moment, and for 400ASA film 
this is too high.  Basically, the data imprinting led's are creating 
flare in the imprint, so reducing the intensity should help.

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia


On Tuesday, September 24, 2002 3:25 AM, Tim Preston 
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:

 First of all, being new here, I'd Just like to say hello =)
SNIP

 Now I've bought myself an MZ-S, it's complete overkill really, but I
 intend to try and grow into it. However I have a quick question about
 the data imprinting.

 The imnprinting seems to be surrounded by a sort of 'halo' or smudge
 which tends to make it very difficult to read. Is this normal, or has 
my
 camera got some sort of fault in the imprinting device?

SNIP




Re: LX shutter speed question

2002-09-23 Thread William Robb


- Original Message -
From: Frank Knapik
Subject: LX shutter speed question


 Hello. When using the LX in manual mode, are the shutter
speeds stepless?

No.

 As always, thank you.

Yer welcome.

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Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600

2002-09-23 Thread William Robb


- Original Message -
From: Shaun Canning
Subject: RE: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600


 Why wouldn't you be able to use k-mount glass on a Pentax
DSLR? If it uses
 the k-mount, the only change may be the increase in focal
length associated
 with smaller than 35mm format sensor areas. (i.e. the 1.4x
magnifying
 effect). For many this would be great, as it would extend the
range of
 lenses for free.

You can get the same effect by printing the centre portion of a
negative and cropping off the outside 30 or so percent. It's OK
if you want telephoto, but crappy if like wide angles.

William Robb

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Re: Pentax, Heliopan or B+W filters?

2002-09-23 Thread William Robb


- Original Message -
From: B G
Subject: Pentax, Heliopan or B+W filters?


 Hi! Actually it is my very first question set here!
 I need to know your experience, knowledge or opinion about
filters from
 Pentax, Heliopan and B+W. I think about polarizing, warming
and yellow
 multicoated filters. I got impression that Heliopan and B+W
are the best,
 but that best is actually without comparison to Pentax
filters. I wonder
 about scratch resistance, easyness of cleaning, quality of
mount, neutrality
 (in case of polarizer), flare or other image degradation,
variety and
 ability to make mixed brand sets, say for different gradation
of warming or
 darkening sky.
 Why brass is better than aluminum?

I expect that the high end B+W (they do make some low end stuff
as well), Heliopan or Pentax SMC are of similar optical quality.
Brass was better than aluminium because older lenses often had
aluminium bodies, and the like metal filters would
electrostatically weld themselves onto the lens. In this new era
of plastic garbage lens barrels, I doubt if it makes any
difference.

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Re: Sky, UV, Haze filters?

2002-09-23 Thread William Robb


- Original Message -
From: Dan Scott
Subject: Sky, UV, Haze filters?


 O Sages, speak to me...

 What the heck is the difference between Sky, UV,  and Haze
filters?

 Are they all the same thing? It sounds like they are to me,
but
 manufacturers frequently offer two or all three side by side,
so I can't
 be right.

 How are they different, and cirumstances would cause me to
prefer this
 one or that one? Does a polarizing filter eliminate the use of
the three?

UV filter is essentially a lens cap. They don't do anything that
the glass in the lens already does.
Sky and Haze are generally the same thing, and essentially
subtract about 50ºK from the colour of the light being
transmitted. The idea is that daylight is often too blue, so
warming things up a bit is a good thing.
You can get stronger filters, such as UVB and UVC that give a
stronger effect.
I tend to distrust the little buggers, as more glass is bad
glass to my way of thinking, but I do have UV-C filters for my
longer telephoto lenses, on the off chance that they actually do
something useful.
Polarizers are a different animal altogether. However, stacking
filters is aways a gamble.

William Robb

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Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600

2002-09-23 Thread William Robb


- Original Message -
From: Rob Studdert
Subject: Re: SMC Pentax F* Zoom 5,6/250-600


 On 23 Sep 2002 at 13:23, Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce) wrote:

  I have no idea why anyone seriously thought, as opposed to
wished, that Pentax
  would sell a DSLR. People who have a need for digital have,
and will, find other
  solutions.

 What about the users poor bloody Pentax users that simply
don't want to have to
 slam a slab of cash out for an equivalent set of crap Nikon or
Canon glass :-(

Perhaps they will be left in the same boat as the poor bloody
Pentax users who were whinging for a new pro body (like as if
there was ever a 35mm Pentax pro body, but I digress).
I recall about 4 years ago, they were hoping an F5 killer would
be introduced.

They got the MZ-S.

The pro end of the 35mm market is going digital. Pentax has no
history of support to the pro 35mm user.

Why anyone thinks they will introduce a digital K-Mount SLR is
beyond me.

I expect the best you can hope for is a non interchangeable lens
SLR like the Olympus thingie.
It is closer to the Pentax target market, which is anyone other
than a working pro.

William Robb

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