Re: Difference between F FA

2002-10-30 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 29.10.02 16:28, Paul Eriksson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I know the technical difference, I've been to Boz's site. But what is the
 real world difference? By the way I'm primaryily talking about the 100mm
 macro f/2.8 and I'll be using it with a ZX-L.  The price difference seems to
 be about twice for the same condition.
F lenses are usually better build - they are mainly metal. And yes their
manual focusing seems to feel better than in FA. But I have noticed that F
lenses has slightly slower and louder auto focus than newer FA ones (this is
propably due to fact that SMC-F were build for SF cameras, which haven't
such a powerful AF motors like Z(PZ) and MZ (ZX) series)

-- 
Best Regards
Sylwek






RE: Exclusive picture of new Pentax D-SLR

2002-10-30 Thread Lawrence Kwan
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Iren  Henry Chu wrote:
 On the other hand, D-SLRs like D100 use Interline Frame Readout CCDs which
 are complex and very expensive to manufacture.  These CCDs cannot record
 images in a continuous manner like the Interlaced CCD do and they needs
 mechanical shutters.

Actually, I am wondering what this term Interline Frame Readout CCD
means.  As far as I know, CCD can only belong to one of the following
types: Interline transfer, Frame transfer and Full-Frame transfer.
but not two at the same time!!  I see that this term is used in dpreview
and I believe it could be a mis-translation.

In fact, D100 uses Sony ICX413AQ CCD sensor, and its specs stated that it
is a conventional interlaced interline transfer CCD.  It claimed better
saturation, sensitivity and smear value; but nothing special about its CCD
design. http://www.sony.co.jp/SonyInfo/News/Press/200202/02-0220/
As it is a interlaced sensor design, a mechanical shutter is required.

As far as the speed, it is mostly affected by the design rather than the
underlying technology.  The recently announced Kodak 11 Meg CCD
KAI-11000CM can generate image as fast as 20 frames per second.

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Re: Disappointing sample photograph from Sigma SD-9 D-SLR

2002-10-30 Thread Alin Flaider
Iren wrote:

IHC http://isweb41.infoseek.co.jp/photo/asaido/00217m.jpg
IHC The flare and edge chromatic aberrations are just unacceptable.
IHC I don't know the problem of chromatic aberrations is due to the Sigma lens 
IHC or the Foveon sensor..

   It's too extended to be other than lens flare.

   Servus, Alin




Re: Mounting 120 Slides

2002-10-30 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Paul,

On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:58:56 +1100, Paul Jones wrote:


I have been shooting quite a bit of Provia in 120 and would like to mount
some of the slides, just for ease of handling and labelling.

I'm wondering if a scanner like the Nikon 8000 can handle mounted 120 slides?

Yes it can, but not with the standard holders that come with the scanner.
You need to purchase the FH-869M called Holder for Mounted Brownie Film.

That will probably cost you well over US$ 100 just for the holder so it might be
worthwhile to take them out and use the regular (filmstrip) holder ...

The 8000 comes with three standard holders:
1) 35mm unmounted (2 strips of 6)
2) 35mm mounted (slides, 5 at a time)
3) 120 file (Brownie :-) holding 4 x 645, 3 x 6x6 or 2 x 6x7 or 6x9

 also can the fuji frontier handle mounted 120 slides?

Don't know.

Regards, JvW

--
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Re: Tokina 28-85mm f/4.0 zoom

2002-10-30 Thread Terence Mac Goff
Yup - I have one on an LX.

It seems to be a pretty OK lens (apart from being fairly heavy).

I havent used it enough yet to give a firm opinion, but ti seems to be an 
OK lens.

T.





Lighting advise needed

2002-10-30 Thread Artur Ledchowski
Hi,
Recently I decided to make use of my AF500FTZ as a studio flash. I want to
take a few shots of my wife. I plan to set up the lighting as following:
- the AF500FTZ mounted on a tripod, in the Manual and Slave modes, its head
turned backwards firing into a silver umbrella - all on one side of the
model
- the Sunpack MZ440AF mounted on my Z-1p in of course the TTL (what else:))
mode, its head up bouncing the light from the ceiling
- a small silver reflector on the other side of the model
- the distance between the model and the AF500FTZ set-up is about 2 m, which
means that the appropriate flash settings (according to the manual and my
calculations) are: 1/4 of power, zoom at 28mm
- the film will be B/W
My questions are:
- how big is the light loss due to bouncing the light off the umbrella? how
much more should I open the aperture - 1/2 stop. 1 stop, more?
- how can the flash from the AF500FTZ affect the camera TTL-flash metering
of the burst from the Sunpack? I presume that it may fool the camera making
it underexpose its metering but I want the Pentax flash to be the key light
and the Sunpack to fill the shadows and maybe bounce a little of light off
the ceiling onto the models hair...
TIA
Regards
Artur




Re: Lighting advise needed

2002-10-30 Thread Flavio Minelli
Artur Ledóchowski wrote:
 
 ...
 My questions are:
 - how big is the light loss due to bouncing the light off the umbrella? how
 much more should I open the aperture - 1/2 stop. 1 stop, more?

The distance you must measure is the total light path,
flash-reflector-subject. In addition you should dial in something for
the scattering/loss of light due to the reflectors characteristics. I
would say about a stop.
BW is a forgiving film.
Testing should be mandatory.

 - how can the flash from the AF500FTZ affect the camera TTL-flash metering
 of the burst from the Sunpack? I presume that it may fool the camera making
 it underexpose its metering but I want the Pentax flash to be the key light
 and the Sunpack to fill the shadows and maybe bounce a little of light off
 the ceiling onto the models hair...
 ...

Use the key light in manual moded as well.
If the AF500FTZ is not the key light you have to add that in your
calculation.
1 to 2 stops under or even more can be assumed, depending on the ratio
you like and want between key and fill lights.
Test.

HTH, Flavio




Norm's pole on favorite poles

2002-10-30 Thread Chris Niesmertelny
Copernicus.

Chris




- Original Message -
From: Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 1:07 PM
Subject: Favorite Poll


 I'd just like to take a poll to see what your favorite poll is...
 Norm







Re: Lighting advise needed

2002-10-30 Thread Angel Ramos
Artur,
The best way to make this is to go all manual and use a  meter usable 
with flash.   Then you set the flash at the camera to do a normal 
exposure at your aperture and film speed, then the AF500FTZ( with 
umbrella) which is mounted as a studio flash on one side, to be 1 to 1.5 
stops over the normal camera mounted flash.  But the best way as I 
mention is fully manual and the use of a meter is the best way to be 
sure to get that picture done.  The reflector is not that much necesary 
if you are in a 2 flash set up, unless you want to highlight something 
or to help setup contrast, more or less depending what effect you want.
Bute test test test!  Have fun!

Angel Ramos
Arecibo, Puerto Rico

Artur Ledchowski wrote:

Hi,
Recently I decided to make use of my AF500FTZ as a studio flash. I want to
take a few shots of my wife. I plan to set up the lighting as following:
- the AF500FTZ mounted on a tripod, in the Manual and Slave modes, its head
turned backwards firing into a silver umbrella - all on one side of the
model
- the Sunpack MZ440AF mounted on my Z-1p in of course the TTL (what else:))
mode, its head up bouncing the light from the ceiling
- a small silver reflector on the other side of the model
- the distance between the model and the AF500FTZ set-up is about 2 m, which
means that the appropriate flash settings (according to the manual and my
calculations) are: 1/4 of power, zoom at 28mm
- the film will be B/W
My questions are:
- how big is the light loss due to bouncing the light off the umbrella? how
much more should I open the aperture - 1/2 stop. 1 stop, more?
- how can the flash from the AF500FTZ affect the camera TTL-flash metering
of the burst from the Sunpack? I presume that it may fool the camera making
it underexpose its metering but I want the Pentax flash to be the key light
and the Sunpack to fill the shadows and maybe bounce a little of light off
the ceiling onto the models hair...
TIA
Regards
Artur


 






Re: Lighting advise needed

2002-10-30 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Artur Ledóchowski
Subject: Lighting advise needed



 My questions are:
 - how big is the light loss due to bouncing the light off the
umbrella? how
 much more should I open the aperture - 1/2 stop. 1 stop, more?

Measure the distace from the flash to the center of the umbrella
and back to the model for flash to subject distance. Every
umbrella that I have seen is 50% efficient, so the umbrella will
eat a stop.
FWIW, I have better luck using umbrellas as a shoot through, not
as a shoot into, meaning the umbrella is between the flash and
the subject.


 - how can the flash from the AF500FTZ affect the camera
TTL-flash metering
 of the burst from the Sunpack? I presume that it may fool the
camera making
 it underexpose its metering but I want the Pentax flash to be
the key light
 and the Sunpack to fill the shadows and maybe bounce a little
of light off
 the ceiling onto the models hair...

Not a clue. I would expect it will cause the camera to shut down
the on camera flash early. You could use this to advantage by
using exposure compensation to dial in the amount of fill you
want.

William Robb





Re: David Hume Kennerly on NPR

2002-10-30 Thread moesg
I'd be interested in going. Should we try to make it another DC irregular outing?

Geoff

 Yesterday there was a rebroadcast of an interview with David Hume
 Kennerly. You can listen here:
 
 http://www.wamu.org/kojo/index.html
 
 Kennerly is a Pulitzer prize winner and you can see some of his work
 here:
 
 http://www.kennerly.com/
 
 On the show he was promoting his book Photo du Jour, which documents
 the year 2000 with a Mamiya 7II and 43mm.
 
 He's having a show here in DC through 12/29. If anyone is interested
 in going, let me know.
 
 tv
 
 
 





Re: MZ-S vs Z-1p

2002-10-30 Thread Mark Roberts
Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Can anyone who has owned both these cameras tell me how much effective
difference there is in the AF speed between the SAFOX II system of the
z/pz-1p and the SFOX VII of the MZ-S? The z-1 I owned until recently was
pretty good with all of my AF lenses, other than a Tokina 80-200 ATX-Pro,
which was sometimes a bit slow. I am interested in upgrading my film SLR,
and can't choose between the MZ-S or a second hand Z-1p. Then again, I may
just wait for the DSLR if we ever get to see what the damn thing really
looks like and goes like.

I one both cameras now (one of each) and the autofocus of the MZ-S is noticably
better than that of the PZ-1p in most respects. Speed may be slightly better,
but low light sensitivity and tolerance of horizontal/vertical lines are much
better. I don't often use the multimple focus point options but they're nice to
have when you need them.


-- 
Mark Roberts
www.robertstech.com
Photography and writing




RE: David Hume Kennerly on NPR

2002-10-30 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Oh sure, wait until I am gone.

I know when I am not appreciated - sniff, sniff...

All in all, with the way work is going I would rather be up north... 

At least it is warmer here,

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

-- -Original Message-
-- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:moesg;erols.com]
-- Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:23 AM
-- 
-- 
-- I'd be interested in going. Should we try to make it another 
-- DC irregular outing?
-- 
-- Geoff
-- 
--  Yesterday there was a rebroadcast of an interview with David Hume
--  Kennerly. You can listen here:
--  
--  http://www.wamu.org/kojo/index.html
--  
--  Kennerly is a Pulitzer prize winner and you can see some 
-- of his work
--  here:
--  
--  http://www.kennerly.com/
--  
--  On the show he was promoting his book Photo du Jour, which 
-- documents
--  the year 2000 with a Mamiya 7II and 43mm.
--  
--  He's having a show here in DC through 12/29. If anyone is 
-- interested
--  in going, let me know.
--  
--  tv




Re: A good argument for buying a film scanner

2002-10-30 Thread Juey Chong Ong

On Monday, Oct 28, 2002, at 10:45 America/New_York, andre wrote:


Herb Chong wrote:


 a 1280 or 1290 is even better. the difference between 4 color and 6 
color
 photo printing is substantial.

The Epson 1200 is a six color printer. However, it uses a different 
type
of ink. Some pros I've talked to still use a 1200 for their portfolio
prints, because they feel it delivers more brilliant colors. The
downside of the 1200 is that the inks are not as permanent. In 
sunlight,
a 1200 print will show some fading in three or four years. However, 
they
age reasonably well in subdued lighting.

If you're printing for a portfolio, the critical factor is quality so 
you should get a printer with a wide gamut or get it printed at a good 
service bureau. If it fades, just reprint it.

If you're serious about archival printing on Epson printers, you should 
be either getting a 2000P, 2200 or one of the other printers but use 
third party archival-quality inks. There are a number of other lists 
devoted to the subject including one Yahoo group that discusses the 
2000P, 2100 and 2200. Wilhelm Imaging has also just released 
preliminary longevity numbers for the Epson 2200.

--jc



RE: Delta International???

2002-10-30 Thread MANGUM,MARK (HP-USA,ex1)
Nick,

I have bought three of my 645n lenses from them.
The FA400mm 5.6, FA45-85 4.5, FA80-160 4.5.
They all cam with a Mack warranty and delivery
was 2-day.

Betty is the customer service rep and she will
do just about anything to make you happy.
Great people, great service.

Mark Mangum

-Original Message-
From: Nick Wright [mailto:nick;wrightfoto.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:22 PM
To: PDML
Subject: OT: Delta International???


Has anyone ever dealt with this company before? I'd love to hear your
thoughts. Thanks

-- 
Nick Wright
http://www.wrightfoto.com/




Re: Lighting advise needed

2002-10-30 Thread Leonard Paris
Use of a flash meter would be a serious help in getting things right in a 
studio setting like that.  Otherwise, shooting test shots with a Polaroid or 
a digital camera could be a lot of help, too.

Len
---

Hi,
Recently I decided to make use of my AF500FTZ as a studio flash. I want 
to
take a few shots of my wife. I plan to set up the lighting as following:
- the AF500FTZ mounted on a tripod, in the Manual and Slave modes, its head
turned backwards firing into a silver umbrella - all on one side of the
model
- the Sunpack MZ440AF mounted on my Z-1p in of course the TTL (what else:))
mode, its head up bouncing the light from the ceiling
- a small silver reflector on the other side of the model
- the distance between the model and the AF500FTZ set-up is about 2 m, 
which
means that the appropriate flash settings (according to the manual and my
calculations) are: 1/4 of power, zoom at 28mm
- the film will be B/W
My questions are:
- how big is the light loss due to bouncing the light off the umbrella? how
much more should I open the aperture - 1/2 stop. 1 stop, more?
- how can the flash from the AF500FTZ affect the camera TTL-flash metering
of the burst from the Sunpack? I presume that it may fool the camera making
it underexpose its metering but I want the Pentax flash to be the key light
and the Sunpack to fill the shadows and maybe bounce a little of light off
the ceiling onto the models hair...
TIA
Regards
Artur


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Fw: for sale pentax fisheye zoom and more k2, kx

2002-10-30 Thread jellymaster

- Original Message - 
From: jellymaster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 11:04 PM
Subject: for sale pentax fisheye zoom and more k2, kx


 pentax 17-28mm fisheye zoom $400us
 K2 mint $170us
 KX with 50mm lens $170us
 or nearest offer
 email off list 
 




35mm film scanners

2002-10-30 Thread Pål Jensen
Looking for a film scanner for 35mm. How about the Nikon LS-40 and the Minolta Dimage 
scan Dual II and Dimage dual scan III (the two Minolta scanners cost the same - whats 
the difference between them?)?
How do these scanners compare to the Nikon LS-4000 (too expensive). Will they give 
credit for the Epson 2100 (2200 US) printer?
Plan of using the new 3200DPI Epson flatbed scanner for MF.

Pål




Re: 35mm film scanners

2002-10-30 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
on 30.10.02 14:14, Pål Jensen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Looking for a film scanner for 35mm. How about the Nikon LS-40 and the Minolta
 Dimage scan Dual II and Dimage dual scan III (the two Minolta scanners cost
 the same - whats the difference between them?)?
 How do these scanners compare to the Nikon LS-4000 (too expensive). Will they
 give credit for the Epson 2100 (2200 US) printer?
 Plan of using the new 3200DPI Epson flatbed scanner for MF.
 
I think LS-40 is the best of them three. But new Minolta can be interesting
too. Dual Scan III has Minolta's equivalents of Digital ICE3, USB 2.0 and
better D/A converter (48 bit - they claim it gives D=4.8 - don't believe it
:-).
If you want exact results I can send you PDF file with results of big test
made in German Color Foto magazine. Big suprise is that not all scanners has
real resolution as it is claimed by their makers...

-- 
Regards
Sylwek






FA* lenses build quality details

2002-10-30 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Hi,
can anybody tell me how FA* are built compared to Limited lenses? Is there
any plastic in their construction (inside?). Thanks! I am just curious :-)

-- 
Best Regards
Sylwek






RE: 35mm film scanners

2002-10-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pal,

You're probably thinking of the Scan Dual II and the Scan Elite II.
If that is the case, the Scan Dual II is an older model.  I've got the
Minolta Dimage Scan Elite II and it's a very good machine.  DPI of 2820 and
ICE, ROC and GEM all included in the kit.  Batch scanning of slides
(mounted) and film strips is a big plus.  Works just fine with VueScan and
the Minolta software isn't half bad either.

Up to 16x oversampling which is a plus if you don't mind waiting 1/2 hour
or longer for one scan - I rarely go above 2x sampling.

I believe the Scan Dual II has roughly the same DPI but does not have the
ICE, ROC or GEM capability.

Cheers,
Dave

Original Message:
-
From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:14:28 +0100
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 35mm film scanners


Looking for a film scanner for 35mm. How about the Nikon LS-40 and the
Minolta Dimage scan Dual II and Dimage dual scan III (the two Minolta
scanners cost the same - whats the difference between them?)?
How do these scanners compare to the Nikon LS-4000 (too expensive). Will
they give credit for the Epson 2100 (2200 US) printer?
Plan of using the new 3200DPI Epson flatbed scanner for MF.

Pål




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Re: 35mm film scanners

2002-10-30 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen
At 14:14 30.10.2002 +0100, you wrote:
Looking for a film scanner for 35mm. How about the Nikon LS-40 and the Minolta Dimage 
scan Dual II and Dimage dual scan III (the two Minolta scanners cost the same - whats 
the difference between them?)?

Dimage dual scan II comes with 12 bit a/d while the III comes with 16 bit a/d.
With a 16 bit a/d converter you get a lot better dynamic range. It seems that 
the III is a new version of the II with cool new features. Both are 2820 dpi.

The Nikon LS-40 is a 2900 dpi scanner with 12 bit a/d.

 From these specs I'd say the Minolta III is the best.

Antti-Pekka

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Re: Some pictures from PDML UK @ Northumbria

2002-10-30 Thread Jostein
Thanks, Dan.
The whole area of Holy Island was very interesting. There is a ruin of an
old monastery/priory there, and a very cute little village. In the wide sand
plains of the tidal zone there were lots of migrating wader birds, and seals
played around in the water. Some people were hunting rabbits with ferrets,
and...  -Wish I could have stayed there for a week!

Maybe next time...

Jostein
http://oksne.net

- Original Message -
From: Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Lovely shots Jostein. Great color and very sharp. I particularly liked
 Lindisfarne castle.





RE: 35mm film scanners

2002-10-30 Thread Rob Brigham
The Coolscan IV does not have multi-sampling, you have to buy the 4000
for that.

The Coolscan does have the best ICE3 though.

I think if you use vuescan you cant use ICE/ROC/GEM though, so I say the
OEM software has to figure in your decision.  The Nikon stuff is pretty
good, but doesn't have pre-made film profiles.

You cant use ICE3 on true BW either, in case you didn't know.

I would buy the Coolscan in an instant (and I did - I got the 4000!).  

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:david;chang-sang.com] 
 Sent: 30 October 2002 13:46
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: 35mm film scanners
 
 
 Pal,
 
 You're probably thinking of the Scan Dual II and the Scan 
 Elite II. If that is the case, the Scan Dual II is an older 
 model.  I've got the Minolta Dimage Scan Elite II and it's a 
 very good machine.  DPI of 2820 and ICE, ROC and GEM all 
 included in the kit.  Batch scanning of slides
 (mounted) and film strips is a big plus.  Works just fine 
 with VueScan and the Minolta software isn't half bad either.
 
 Up to 16x oversampling which is a plus if you don't mind 
 waiting 1/2 hour or longer for one scan - I rarely go above 
 2x sampling.
 
 I believe the Scan Dual II has roughly the same DPI but does 
 not have the ICE, ROC or GEM capability.
 
 Cheers,
 Dave
 
 Original Message:
 -
 From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:14:28 +0100
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: 35mm film scanners
 
 
 Looking for a film scanner for 35mm. How about the Nikon 
 LS-40 and the Minolta Dimage scan Dual II and Dimage dual 
 scan III (the two Minolta scanners cost the same - whats the 
 difference between them?)? How do these scanners compare to 
 the Nikon LS-4000 (too expensive). Will they give credit for 
 the Epson 2100 (2200 US) printer? Plan of using the new 
 3200DPI Epson flatbed scanner for MF.
 
 Pål
 
 
 
 
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Re: Some pictures from PDML UK @ Northumbria

2002-10-30 Thread Jostein
Thanks, Maciej.
Maybe it's possible to meet somewhere else sometime.

I'm really sorry to hear that my photos made you think of giving up
photography. Honestly didn't think they were that bad...:-)

Btw, I got a book of pictures from Polan by Milan Legutky. It's called W
Tatrach. You folks got some nice scenery down there...

Best,
Jostein
http://oksne.net

- Original Message -
From: Maciej Marchlewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Those pics are great. I trully miss being there but
 unfortunately I don't live in England or nowhere close to it.

 Right now I have some other dilemma. After seeing those photos I
 wonder if I should drop photography...

 Or maybe I should get myself some LX at last ;-)

 Hadrian's Wall is on my must see list.

 Cheers

 Maciej

 ---
 Tytus na Dzikim Zachodzie  http://tytus.wp.pl/ 







OT: Great Photo of the Leonids

2002-10-30 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
The Astronomy Picture of the Day features a great shot of the Leonid meteor
shower down under:

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html





Re: Some pictures from PDML UK @ Northumbria

2002-10-30 Thread Jostein
Hi, Chris.
Humble thanks for the picture comments.
Thanks also for the link to Daid Taylor's page. Nice stuff.
Had he been there photographing beside me I guess my images would have
looked a bit silly by comparison to his... :-)

Best,
Jostein
- Original Message -
From: Chris Stoddart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: Some pictures from PDML UK @ Northumbria



 Ah Jostein, my absolute favourite part of the UK is the Northumbrian
 coast and I think you have done it real justice. Well done!

 I recently bought at 75mm lens for the 6x7 from a chap called David Taylor
 who lives up there. He photographs with the 6x7 - some of you might want
 to take a look at his landscapes at:

 http://www.laughing-cat.co.uk/landscape01a/landscape01.htm

 Chris






Re: LX at night - comments please

2002-10-30 Thread Fred
 Finally got a chance to play with the LX at night.  Overall, I'm
 pretty impressed with the low light and OTF metering -  I got by
 taking 2 or 3 of each rather than the 8 or so I was doing with the
 k1000 in low light.
 a couple samples are at
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=248862
 I'd appreciate a little input on 1 in particular:
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1091068size=lg

Mike, I liked three of the four photos.  The 1 in particular is
the only one that I didn't care much for.

The third one, which is easily overlooked in the thumbnail view, is
actually my favorite - it's not flashy, but it's understatedly
subtle and quite elegant - a really nice composition in my opinion.
However, the actual star trails were not immediately visible to me -
I had to adjust the gamma value here to bring them out (maybe my
monitor is set too dark)- I only guessed that there ~had~ to be star
trails there since the title of the photo was Star Trails.  And,
then, I actually prefer ~not~ seeing the star trails - seeing just
the indigo silhouetting the trees at the bottom fading into
blackness made the photo more effective to me - but my taste is only
in my mouth, so don't take what I say with too much significance -
g.

OK, gotta get the LX outside tonight - oops, it's supposed to be
overcast tonight - well, maybe tomorrow night...  (g)

Fred





Re: OT: Great Photo of the Leonids

2002-10-30 Thread Brendan
Which reminds me, time to get ready for this years
shower/storm, light show :-)


 --- Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The Astronomy Picture of the Day features a great
 shot of the Leonid meteor
 shower down under:
 
 http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
 
  

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Re: Norm's pole on favorite poles

2002-10-30 Thread Bob Blakely
cat.

From: Chris Niesmertelny [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Copernicus.
 
 From: Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  I'd just like to take a poll to see what your favorite poll is...
  Norm




Re: Some pictures from PDML UK @ Northumbria

2002-10-30 Thread Jostein
I can remember some TV-program some years ago (there's probably been many
more) about the excavation of a civil settlement beside a military
installation on the wall, where they had found some organic remnants like
buttons, leatherware and even letters.

Been wanting to see Hadrian's wall since then.

Glad you liked the pics.

best,
Jostein

- Original Message -
From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: Some pictures from PDML UK @ Northumbria


 These are very nice.  On a recent tour of England, our  group went to
 Alnwick Castle.  I really wanted us to see parts of Hadrian's wall, and
 I was pleasantly surprised that this was a commonly held feeling on a
 busload of Americans.  I guess I have to credit the History Channel with
 this general knowledge of Hadrian's wall.


 Steven Desjardins
 Department of Chemistry
 Washington and Lee University
 Lexington, VA 24450
 (540) 458-8873
 FAX: (540) 458-8878
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: Some pictures from PDML UK @ Northumbria

2002-10-30 Thread Jostein
Thanks, Cotty.
:-)
Let's do it together some time?
Jostein
- Original Message - 
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: Some pictures from PDML UK @ Northumbria


 Stunning pics, Jostein. I especially like the sea front shots. Well done!
 
 Cot
 
 
 Free UK Macintosh Classified Ads at
 http://www.macads.co.uk/
 
 Oh, swipe me! He paints with light!
 http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/
 
 
 




Re[2]: 35mm film scanners

2002-10-30 Thread Bruce Dayton
Pål,

I have the Scan Dual II and find it just great for negatives.  Slides,
however are a different story.  It doesn't have the dynamic range to
scan high contrast slides to my satisfaction.  It just won't pick up
the deep shadows very well.  Other than that, I like the unit quite
well.  It sounds like the III version might be a reasonable choice.


Bruce



Wednesday, October 30, 2002, 6:06:00 AM, you wrote:

APV At 14:14 30.10.2002 +0100, you wrote:
Looking for a film scanner for 35mm. How about the Nikon LS-40 and the Minolta 
Dimage scan Dual II and Dimage dual scan III (the two Minolta scanners cost the same 
- whats the difference between
them?)?

APV Dimage dual scan II comes with 12 bit a/d while the III comes with 16 bit a/d.
APV With a 16 bit a/d converter you get a lot better dynamic range. It seems that 
APV the III is a new version of the II with cool new features. Both are 2820 dpi.

APV The Nikon LS-40 is a 2900 dpi scanner with 12 bit a/d.

APV  From these specs I'd say the Minolta III is the best.

APV Antti-Pekka

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APV * Computec Oy Turku* FIN-20750 Turku Finland * Fax: +358 10 264 0777 *




A*135/f1.8 that was on Ebay

2002-10-30 Thread Arnold Stark
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1391357452

The seller is an Hamburg, just like me, however, thte price is quite out 
of my reach.

Arnold



Re: 35mm film scanners

2002-10-30 Thread Dan Scott
The Scan Dual III looks like a significant improvement over the Scan 
Dual II and with a street price 25% less than what I paid for my Dual 
II back when they came out.  http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEW1.HTM 
has a preliminary review of the SD III up. Only place I've come across 
so far. BTW BH shows them in stock for $300.

Dan Scott


On Wednesday, October 30, 2002, at 07:14  AM, Pål Jensen wrote:

Looking for a film scanner for 35mm. How about the Nikon LS-40 and the 
Minolta Dimage scan Dual II and Dimage dual scan III (the two Minolta 
scanners cost the same - whats the difference between them?)?
How do these scanners compare to the Nikon LS-4000 (too expensive). 
Will they give credit for the Epson 2100 (2200 US) printer?
Plan of using the new 3200DPI Epson flatbed scanner for MF.

Pål






Re: 35mm film scanners

2002-10-30 Thread Dan Scott
I think scanners have to have a separate IR light source in order to 
use ICE type dust and scratch removal systems. AFAIK none of the Scan 
Duals have this.

Vuescan might be able to do multisampling on the Coolscan IV, have you 
tried that yet?

Dan Scott

On Wednesday, October 30, 2002, at 08:19  AM, Rob Brigham wrote:

The Coolscan IV does not have multi-sampling, you have to buy the 4000
for that.

The Coolscan does have the best ICE3 though.

I think if you use vuescan you cant use ICE/ROC/GEM though, so I say 
the
OEM software has to figure in your decision.  The Nikon stuff is pretty
good, but doesn't have pre-made film profiles.

You cant use ICE3 on true BW either, in case you didn't know.

I would buy the Coolscan in an instant (and I did - I got the 4000!).




Re: MZ-S battery mystery

2002-10-30 Thread Juey Chong Ong
Reminds me of what happens when the power manager in a laptop computer 
gets confused. The way to cure this in a laptop is to completely 
disconnect all power sources and leave the computer powerless for a few 
hours. This resets the power management chip and all will be well again.

Perhaps you could try the same thing in the MZ-S...take out the 
batteries and let the camera sit without power for a day or two (I'm 
assuming it'll take longer to drain the charge left in a camera) then 
put in a fresh battery and see what happens.

--jc


On Tuesday, Oct 29, 2002, at 23:01 America/New_York, Kevin Waterson 
wrote:

I just finished off a roll of film, and replaced it with another..
no prizes there, but when I took the first photo with the new
film in place, the camera made a dying whirrr rather than rolling
on to the next frame. The low battery light began flashing and I
thought it odd as I had only just put a new battery in it 2 rolls
ago. Perhaps I bought a dud battery and need a new one, so, I
purchased another battery from a different store and put that in.
Still the low battery indicator is flashing.

The manual does touch on this saying if the camera is not used for
a period of time this behaviour may occur and to hold the shutter
release half down till the low battery indicator goes away.

Well, I have tried this but still no joy. The low battery indicator
still flashes and the camera is basically a paper weight.

Any thoughts as to what may be the problem here or how I might
get it working?

Kind regards
Kevin


--
Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Kevin Waterson
Byron Bay, Australia






Re: OT: Great Photo of the Leonids

2002-10-30 Thread Dan Scott

On Wednesday, October 30, 2002, at 08:28  AM, Brendan wrote:


Which reminds me, time to get ready for this years
shower/storm, light show :-)



How do you get ready? What do you use?

Dan Scott




Re: 35mm film scanners

2002-10-30 Thread Dan Scott

On Wednesday, October 30, 2002, at 07:31  AM, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:


If you want exact results I can send you PDF file with results of big 
test
made in German Color Foto magazine. Big suprise is that not all 
scanners has
real resolution as it is claimed by their makers...

--
Regards
Sylwek


Sylwek,

Could you send a copy to me, or summarize for the list?


Thanks,
Dan Scott




Re: 35mm film scanners

2002-10-30 Thread Maris V. Lidaka Sr.
ICE, ROC and GEM are trademarked names, of course.  Vuescan does have it's
own dust  scratch removal system using the IR channel, and its own grain
reduction and color enhancing functions.

Maris

- Original Message -
From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:19 AM
Subject: RE: 35mm film scanners


 The Coolscan IV does not have multi-sampling, you have to buy the 4000
 for that.

 The Coolscan does have the best ICE3 though.

 I think if you use vuescan you cant use ICE/ROC/GEM though, so I say the
 OEM software has to figure in your decision.  The Nikon stuff is pretty
 good, but doesn't have pre-made film profiles.

 You cant use ICE3 on true BW either, in case you didn't know.

 I would buy the Coolscan in an instant (and I did - I got the 4000!).





Re: OT: Great Photo of the Leonids

2002-10-30 Thread Brendan
2 lawn chairs, lots of coffee, 2 cameras, a 28mm f2.8
and 50mm F1.7, 2 tripods, lots of sleep before ( it's
on a tuesday argh!! ) and lots of luck.

 --- Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Wednesday, October 30, 2002, at 08:28  AM,
 Brendan wrote:
 
  Which reminds me, time to get ready for this years
  shower/storm, light show :-)
 
 
 How do you get ready? What do you use?
 
 Dan Scott
  

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Re: OT: Great Photo of the Leonids

2002-10-30 Thread Brendan
this is the best from last year, it is in focus, just
had to shoot thru fog and dew on the lens.

http://webhome.idirect.com/~trini/flowers2/a002.jpg

 --- Dan Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Wednesday, October 30, 2002, at 08:28  AM,
 Brendan wrote:
 
  Which reminds me, time to get ready for this years
  shower/storm, light show :-)
 
 
 How do you get ready? What do you use?
 
 Dan Scott
  

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RE: 35mm film scanners

2002-10-30 Thread Rob Brigham
Consensus on scanner reviews says that 2900dpi (LS IV) is perfect up to
A4, but you really want 4000dpi (LS 4000) for A3.

Of course the days of digital cameras, 'ressing-up' and geniune fractals
has reduced expectancies in this respect...

 -Original Message-
 From: Pål Jensen [mailto:paaljensen;sensewave.com] 
 Sent: 30 October 2002 16:47
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: 35mm film scanners
 
 
 Dan wrote:
 
  The Scan Dual III looks like a significant improvement over the Scan
  Dual II and with a street price 25% less than what I paid 
 for my Dual 
  II back when they came out.  
 http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEW1.HTM 
  has a preliminary 
 review of the SD III up. Only place I've come across 
  so far. BTW BH shows them in stock for $300.
 
 
 It get excellent  reviews and they claim it is better than 
 anything available for desktop use even  a few years back. 
 However, what does this mean? As a novice in these matters 
 I'm a bit confused. Is this scanner good enough to get high 
 quality prints from an Epson 2100 printer? 
 
 Obviosly I want the best quality possible at the lowest cost 
 possible. I plane to use a cheap(?) 35mm film scanner for 
 35mm and the sucessor to the Epson 2450 for MF. My main usage 
 will be high(?) quality prints with the 2100. Does this makes sense?
 
 
 Pål
 
 




RE: 35mm film scanners

2002-10-30 Thread Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce)
Yes, I get very good 11x17 prints from scans done with a HP S20, which isn't nearly as 
good as the new Minolta appears to be.

BR

 -Original Message-
 From: Pål Jensen [mailto:paaljensen;sensewave.com]
 
 It get excellent  reviews and they claim it is better than 
 anything available for desktop use even  a few years back. 
 However, what does this mean? As a novice in these matters 
 I'm a bit confused. Is this scanner good enough to get high 
 quality prints from an Epson 2100 printer? 
 




1 day to go: Normal zoom poll

2002-10-30 Thread Arnold Stark
Please do not hesitate to vote, that is to say: to answer the following 
3 questions:

1.) Imagine that you need a k-mount zoom which covers at least the focal lengths 40 to 70mm. Imagine further, that you have more than enough money to spend on such a zoom. Now imagine, that you enter a shop which has plenty of new and used Pentax glass. What are the 3 SMC Pentax zooms (1st, 2nd, and 3rd choice) that you would like to pick most? Pick among these lenses:

FA24-90/f3.5-4.5 IFAL
FA*28-70/f2.8 AL
FA28-70/f4 AL
A28-80/f3.5-4.5
F28-80/f3.5-4.5 
FA28-80/f3.5-4.7
FA28-80/f3.5-5.6 AL
FA28-105/f3.2-4.5 IFAL
FA28-105/f4-5.6   
FA28-105/f4-5.6 IF
A28-135/f4 
FA28-200/f3.8-5.6 IFAL
AF35-70/f2.8  (for ME-F)
M35-70/f2.8-3.5  
A35-70/f3.5-4.5 
F35-70/f3.5-4.5
A35-70/f4
A35-80/f4-5.6
F35-80/f4-5.6
FA35-80/f4-5.6
A35-105/f3.5 
F35-105/f4-5.6 
A35-135/f3.5-4.5
F35-135/f3.5-4.5
A35-210/f3.5-4.5
M40-80/f2.8-4

2.) What 3rd party zoom lenses covering at least the 40-70mm range would
you consider  good alternatives? Please name up to 3 3rd party zooms. So far these lenses have been voted for:

Rikenon P or XR Rikenon 28-100/4 (2-touch, 67mm filter)
Sigma 24-70/2.8 EX DF
Sigma 28-70 F2.8 EX
Sigma 28-135/3.8-5.6 Macro Aspherical IF
Sigma AF 28-135 f/4-5.6
Tamron AF24-135 f/4-5.6
Tokina ATX-Pro 28-70 f/2.6-2.8 (2 votes)
Tokina ATX-PRO 28-70/2.8 SV
Tokina 28-70 F2.8 thingy ATX whatever
Tokina AT-X 28-85/4
Tokina ATX 28-135 f/4-4.5 (67mm filter)
Tokina AT-X 35-70/2.8 
Vivitar Series One 28-90 f/2.8 to 3.5 (1-touch, 67mm filter)
Vivitar Series 1 35-85/2.8 Varifocal


3.) If you were dreaming, what would be your ideal (but realistic) SMC Pentax Zoom lens for k-mount, covering at least the 40-70mm range? So far, these lenses have been proposed:

FA 24-70/4  (just like the 28-70)
FA24-90/f3.5-4.5 IFAL
FA*24-105/f2.8-4.0 IFAL
FA 24-105/4 (or 3.5-4.5) AL  IF  USM
24-135, f/4-4.8, 1:4 close focus throughout the range
F25-100/f4 (similar to F35-105 but with better close focus)
FA*28-70/f2.8 AL  IF  USM
FA 28-120 f/2.8-4 AL ED (IF)
31-77/2-2.8  (it would probably measure as f2.1 to f2.7...)

Have fun with these polls, and thanks in advance for contributing!

Arnold




Re: David Hume Kennerly on NPR

2002-10-30 Thread Christian Skofteland
It is a weekend.

Christian Skofteland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message - 
From: Cesar Matamoros II [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:34 AM
Subject: RE: David Hume Kennerly on NPR


 Oh sure, wait until I am gone.
 
 I know when I am not appreciated - sniff, sniff...
 
 All in all, with the way work is going I would rather be up north... 
 
 At least it is warmer here,
 
 Cesar
 Panama City, Florida




Re: OT:Prints From Slides

2002-10-30 Thread Christian Skofteland
Bring the slides to a custom lab that can do high-resolution scans.  The
Kodak photo cd scans won't due (mainly because they probably weren't scanned
by a knowledgeable person but just batch scanned with no regard for final
outcome).

After you are happy with the scans have them printed.  I do a lot of my own
printing with CHEAP equipment and I get pretty good results.

Having a custom lab do them where you can talk to the photo-finisher and
tweak the scanning, etc is expensive but in the end the results will make
you much happier than having a bad job done for less money.

Christian Skofteland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message -
From: dick graham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:15 PM
Subject: OT:Prints From Slides


 I'm looking for the best route to take to make prints (up to 11x14) from
 slides.  Has anyone had digital prints made from Kodak Photo CD's and, if
 so, how has the quality been? I don't have my own scanning equipment and
 printing equipment so I must rely on outside commercial resources.

 DG





Re: rec.photo.equipment.35mm

2002-10-30 Thread Christian Skofteland
I will never go to Ritz camera after I tried to get film from them a few
months back.  The guy didn't know the difference between slides and prints
and wasn't aware of a company called Fuji.  Sheesh!

Ritz sucks! (sorry Wendy...)

Christian Skofteland
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message -
From: Debra Wilborn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: rec.photo.equipment.35mm


 None of my camera stuff was bought new, except film.
 So, I don't really care if Ritz stocks Pentax stuff or
 not.  Besides, this was started by a *clerk* in the
 shop.  A CLERK.  Consider the source.





RE: New Kodak print film

2002-10-30 Thread tom
Yeah.

--
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www.bigdayphoto.com
301-758-3085 

 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Brewer [mailto:dbrewer;richmond.ky.us]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:32 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: New Kodak print film
 
 
 You got that mailing too, eh?
 
 
 At 12:30 PM 10/30/02 -0500, you wrote:
 Kodak has a new print film, Portra 400UC (ultra-color):
 
 http://www.kodak.com/cgi-bin/webCatalog.pl?product=KODAK+PR
 OFESSIONAL+
 PORTRA+400UC+Filmcc=USlc=en
 
 http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/films/
 portra/port
 raIndex.jhtml
 
 Curious that they didn't come out with a 160 or 100 UC. I wouldn't
 mind seeing a Portra 100BW.
 
 I wonder what happened to the new Fuji slide film? My lab guy was
 actually testing it a few months back.
 
 tv
 




Re: New Kodak print film

2002-10-30 Thread dick graham
The latest issue of Pop Photo has a little discription of the new Portra 
400UC.  In it Kodak claims that while it has increased color saturation 
over VC skin tones remain true.

DG



At 12:30 PM 10/30/02 -0500, you wrote:
Kodak has a new print film, Portra 400UC (ultra-color):

http://www.kodak.com/cgi-bin/webCatalog.pl?product=KODAK+PROFESSIONAL+
PORTRA+400UC+Filmcc=USlc=en

http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/films/portra/port
raIndex.jhtml

Curious that they didn't come out with a 160 or 100 UC. I wouldn't
mind seeing a Portra 100BW.

I wonder what happened to the new Fuji slide film? My lab guy was
actually testing it a few months back.

tv






Re[2]: New Kodak print film

2002-10-30 Thread Bruce Dayton
dick,

Yeah, I read that.  The question is, why would I use an overlay
saturated film?  I'm not thinking that I would be using it for people,
when Porta NC or VC do just great already.


Bruce



Wednesday, October 30, 2002, 10:55:17 AM, you wrote:

dg The latest issue of Pop Photo has a little discription of the new Portra 
dg 400UC.  In it Kodak claims that while it has increased color saturation 
dg over VC skin tones remain true.

dg DG



dg At 12:30 PM 10/30/02 -0500, you wrote:
Kodak has a new print film, Portra 400UC (ultra-color):

http://www.kodak.com/cgi-bin/webCatalog.pl?product=KODAK+PROFESSIONAL+
PORTRA+400UC+Filmcc=USlc=en

http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/films/portra/port
raIndex.jhtml

Curious that they didn't come out with a 160 or 100 UC. I wouldn't
mind seeing a Portra 100BW.

I wonder what happened to the new Fuji slide film? My lab guy was
actually testing it a few months back.

tv




FS: SMC-M 150mm f3.5, excellent

2002-10-30 Thread Lindamood, Mark
Mint, and I do mean mint, SMC-M 150mm f3.5, with hard case in excellent condition.  
$125.00.  Yes, I know, I'm nuts.  Respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: 35mm film scanners

2002-10-30 Thread Jens Bladt
Hallo Sylwek
I'd like to se those tests too!
Cheers
Jens, Denmark
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:sylwek;ozon.com.pl]
Sendt: 30. oktober 2002 14:32
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Re: 35mm film scanners


on 30.10.02 14:14, Pål Jensen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Looking for a film scanner for 35mm. How about the Nikon LS-40 and the
Minolta
 Dimage scan Dual II and Dimage dual scan III (the two Minolta scanners
cost
 the same - whats the difference between them?)?
 How do these scanners compare to the Nikon LS-4000 (too expensive). Will
they
 give credit for the Epson 2100 (2200 US) printer?
 Plan of using the new 3200DPI Epson flatbed scanner for MF.

I think LS-40 is the best of them three. But new Minolta can be interesting
too. Dual Scan III has Minolta's equivalents of Digital ICE3, USB 2.0 and
better D/A converter (48 bit - they claim it gives D=4.8 - don't believe it
:-).
If you want exact results I can send you PDF file with results of big test
made in German Color Foto magazine. Big suprise is that not all scanners has
real resolution as it is claimed by their makers...

--
Regards
Sylwek






RE: New Kodak print film

2002-10-30 Thread tom
 -Original Message-
 From: dick graham [mailto:Dick.Graham;ndscs.nodak.edu]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:55 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: New Kodak print film
 
 
 The latest issue of Pop Photo has a little discription of 
 the new Portra 
 400UC.  In it Kodak claims that while it has increased 
 color saturation 
 over VC skin tones remain true.

I guess if you think VC skin tones are accurate that's great news.

tv

 




Re: A*135/f1.8 that was on Ebay

2002-10-30 Thread Fred
 Nothing in the text mentions the lens hood. Are you sure what's
 pictured is an RH-A77?

You're right, Bob - I am not sure.  I just made the assumption that
it is the RH-A77 - it looks (as much as can be judged in the photo)
as if it's the RH-A77 - that is, it looks just as useless as the
RH-A77 - g.  The RH-A77 is simply too wide and too shallow to
really provide full flare protection (not that the 135/1.8 needs all
that much help in the flare department).  Someone here on the PDML, I
think, uses a Heliopan or a Nikon hood instead.

Fred





RE: A*135/f1.8 that was on Ebay

2002-10-30 Thread Glen O'Neal
How hard are these lenses to come by. Like the 85/f1.4 I imagine it is next
to impossible

Glen O'Neal

-Original Message-
From: Fred [mailto:fwcetus;erols.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A*135/f1.8 that was on Ebay


 Nothing in the text mentions the lens hood. Are you sure what's
 pictured is an RH-A77?

You're right, Bob - I am not sure.  I just made the assumption that
it is the RH-A77 - it looks (as much as can be judged in the photo)
as if it's the RH-A77 - that is, it looks just as useless as the
RH-A77 - g.  The RH-A77 is simply too wide and too shallow to
really provide full flare protection (not that the 135/1.8 needs all
that much help in the flare department).  Someone here on the PDML, I
think, uses a Heliopan or a Nikon hood instead.

Fred





Re: 35mm film scanners

2002-10-30 Thread Mark Roberts
Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It get excellent  reviews and they claim it is better than anything 
available for desktop use even  a few years back. However, what does 
this mean? As a novice in these matters I'm a bit confused. Is this 
scanner good enough to get high quality prints from an Epson 2100 printer? 

The Scan Dual III is a 2820 dpi scanner so you probably won't be able to take
advantage of the large print size capability (it's up to 13 x 44 like the
earlier Epsons, IIRC?) but other that that it should be excellent.

If you want to make larger than 8 x 12 inch prints you really need a 4000 dpi
class scanner (I use the Kodak RFS 3600, which is 3600 dpi and makes beautiful
12 x 18 inch prints on my Epson 1270).

Obviosly I want the best quality possible at the lowest cost possible. I plane 
to use a cheap(?) 35mm film scanner for 35mm and the sucessor to the Epson 2450 
for MF. My main usage will be high(?) quality prints with the 2100. 
Does this makes sense?

As long as you stick to A4 size (or maybe just slightly larger) for prints.

-- 
Mark Roberts
www.robertstech.com
Photography and writing




Re[2]: New Kodak print film

2002-10-30 Thread Bruce Dayton
Tom,

Even if you assume the VC skin tones are accurate, why would you
oversaturate the skin tones?  I can see possibly oversaturating the
scenery.


Bruce



Wednesday, October 30, 2002, 12:02:42 PM, you wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: dick graham [mailto:Dick.Graham;ndscs.nodak.edu]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:55 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: New Kodak print film
 
 
 The latest issue of Pop Photo has a little discription of 
 the new Portra 
 400UC.  In it Kodak claims that while it has increased 
 color saturation 
 over VC skin tones remain true.

t I guess if you think VC skin tones are accurate that's great news.

t tv




Re: Re[2]: New Kodak print film

2002-10-30 Thread Leonard Paris
It's probably worth shooting a roll or two just to see whether you have a 
good application for it. I'm going to try it when I have the chance.

Len
---

From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: dick graham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re[2]: New Kodak print film
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:29:02 -0800

dick,

Yeah, I read that.  The question is, why would I use an overlay
saturated film?  I'm not thinking that I would be using it for people,
when Porta NC or VC do just great already.


Bruce



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RE: Re[2]: New Kodak print film

2002-10-30 Thread tom
I have no idea!

I personally don't think VC skin tones are particularly accurate in
general. I would think the UC might be a good vacation film, but I
can't see using it for portraits. Then again, I haven't tried it

tv

 -Original Message-
 From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:bkdayton;rcsis.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 3:08 PM
 To: tom
 Subject: Re[2]: New Kodak print film


 Tom,

 Even if you assume the VC skin tones are accurate, why would you
 oversaturate the skin tones?  I can see possibly oversaturating the
 scenery.


 Bruce



 Wednesday, October 30, 2002, 12:02:42 PM, you wrote:

  -Original Message-
  From: dick graham [mailto:Dick.Graham;ndscs.nodak.edu]
  Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:55 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: New Kodak print film
 
 
  The latest issue of Pop Photo has a little discription of
  the new Portra
  400UC.  In it Kodak claims that while it has increased
  color saturation
  over VC skin tones remain true.

 t I guess if you think VC skin tones are accurate that's
 great news.

 t tv






Pentax XL eyepieces

2002-10-30 Thread Evan Hanson
Anyone ever used these for astronomy?  Were looking at upgrading the
eyepieces on our scope.

Evan




Re: A*135/f1.8 that was on Ebay

2002-10-30 Thread Bob Blakely
Harder and (usually) 1.5 to 2 times the price of the A*85/1.4. Due to
relative rarity as well as quality, I think. This is an exceptional hunk o'
glass and YOU can't live without one. Go DIRECTLY to ebay every morning and
look for one. Pay ANYTHING the poor bastard wants. Pimp yer wife if you have
to, but get you this HUNK O GLASS before you die. Take it to concerts. Take
it to plays. Take it to clubs. Take it to the evening streets. Snap! Snap!
Snap! Ah, Oo. It's so good.

Where'd my meds go?

Regards,
Bob...
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and wants us to be happy
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Re[4]: New Kodak print film

2002-10-30 Thread Bruce Dayton
Maybe it is just relabeled Gold Max 400.  :)


Bruce



Wednesday, October 30, 2002, 12:40:33 PM, you wrote:

t I have no idea!

t I personally don't think VC skin tones are particularly accurate in
t general. I would think the UC might be a good vacation film, but I
t can't see using it for portraits. Then again, I haven't tried it

t tv

 -Original Message-
 From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:bkdayton;rcsis.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 3:08 PM
 To: tom
 Subject: Re[2]: New Kodak print film


 Tom,

 Even if you assume the VC skin tones are accurate, why would you
 oversaturate the skin tones?  I can see possibly oversaturating the
 scenery.


 Bruce



 Wednesday, October 30, 2002, 12:02:42 PM, you wrote:

  -Original Message-
  From: dick graham [mailto:Dick.Graham;ndscs.nodak.edu]
  Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:55 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: New Kodak print film
 
 
  The latest issue of Pop Photo has a little discription of
  the new Portra
  400UC.  In it Kodak claims that while it has increased
  color saturation
  over VC skin tones remain true.

 t I guess if you think VC skin tones are accurate that's
 great news.

 t tv





Re: 35mm film scanners

2002-10-30 Thread Alan Chan
As I remember, Dual Scan II doesn't have ICE while III has Minolta's 
designed dust removal software. The III also has higher dynamic range which 
I recommend.

regards,
Alan Chan

Looking for a film scanner for 35mm. How about the Nikon LS-40 and the 
Minolta Dimage scan Dual II and Dimage dual scan III (the two Minolta 
scanners cost the same - whats the difference between them?)?
How do these scanners compare to the Nikon LS-4000 (too expensive). Will 
they give credit for the Epson 2100 (2200 US) printer?
Plan of using the new 3200DPI Epson flatbed scanner for MF.


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Re: New Kodak print film

2002-10-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Retaining Skin tones would be a BONUS - that's the one problem I found with
VC - it did do some weird things to skin tones - depending on who you were
shooting - the skin just didn't seem right so I would always opt for NC
instead but then you sort of wished you had the POP of color that VC gave
you.

I look forward to giving this baby a whirl.

Cheers,
Dave


Original Message:
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From: dick graham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:55:17 -0600
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Kodak print film


The latest issue of Pop Photo has a little discription of the new Portra 
400UC.  In it Kodak claims that while it has increased color saturation 
over VC skin tones remain true.

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Streamlining also

2002-10-30 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Well, got rid of the MX, A35/2,  FA50/1.4.
Got my new-to-me 5n coupled with 43/1.9.  Nice.  Pretty.
Only one other lens kept -- A100/2.8.

I put the data back from the 5n onto the ZX-M
The ZX-M's for sale to anyone interested.  $125.

I might regret getting rid of the MX.  Some day.  But that's easier to replace
than losing the opportunity for a 43/1.9.  The test shots with it make me
happy with the acquisition.  Very happy.

Now, for an 8x10 lens ...  just a 305 Caltar or Ektar or other entry-level 
item.
Anyone got one to swap? ;-)

Collin



Re[2]: A*135/f1.8 that was on Ebay

2002-10-30 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi,

I used to use a Heliopan when I had one of these lenses. I never had
one of the 'correct' Pentax hoods for it, and when I first bought the
lens I was given a Mamiya heavy-duty collapsible rubber one (which I
still have somewhere). Somebody else, possibly Shel, used to stack
Heliopans to get maximum flare protection. But my main interest was in
physical protection - impact resistance - so I never really tested the
Heliopan for maximum flare protection.

The Heliopan is not as physically strong or robust as, for example,
the Pentax metal hood for the A* 85/1.4, but it's far easier to obtain
and at a decent price.

---

 Bob  

Wednesday, October 30, 2002, 7:52:16 PM, you wrote:

 Nothing in the text mentions the lens hood. Are you sure what's
 pictured is an RH-A77?

 Someone here on the PDML, I think, uses a Heliopan or a Nikon hood instead.

 Fred




Re: FA* lenses build quality details

2002-10-30 Thread Alan Chan
I do not know about the inside, but the plastic aperture rings of the FA* 
lenses that I own (24/2, 200/2.8, 300/f4.5) with numbers merely printed on 
them has always been a nuisance to me.  The focusing rings probably are 
made of plastic, too. The distance scale windows are plastic, of course, 
and what is beneath them it is just some paper with numbers printed on it, 
isn't it? However, the weakest point is the silver barrel colour that is 
scratched rather easily, as we have discussed her before.

I believe the focus ring of the 24 is plastic, but the 85  200 are metal. 
Never own the FA*300 so don't know (mine is F*). From what I have read so 
far, the white finish on the Canon L lenses isn't very scratch resistance 
either, so to my F*300/4.5. But it is true that the silver finish of the FA* 
lenses is so attractive that it makes you nervious. AFAIK, inner mechanisms 
of FA* lenses were made of metal. 2 thing I don't like about FA* lenses are 
the stupid silver metal focus scale window frame, and the dust sucking 
feature (why can't they be better sealed from dust? FA*24/2 is quite dust 
resistance however).

The limited lenses have none of these weeknesses. Their only problem is 
that the bigger resistance that they offer for good manual focusing makes 
them slow in AF mode (simimlar to the F series lenses).

I used to believe the silver Limited lenses were scratch resistance, until I 
have discovered my 43/1.9 has a long scratch on it, or what appear to be a 
long crack on the finish. I have no idea why it was there. I always babe my 
gears. Basically the design of Limited lenses is like the M-series lenses 
with A setting and autofocus. My 43/1.9 has a little play on the focus ring 
and it's enough to affect the aperture blades position a little. However, it 
doesn't seem to cause any practical difference. The 43/1.9 is quite well 
sealed and inside still free from dust after 3 years. The 77/1.8 has the 
firm but loose focus feel. I cannot spot any flaw with it, except it sucks 
lots of dust. The very first time I used it few years ago, the inner 
elements became quite dusty already (I swear it was perfectly cleaned when I 
bought it in Japan). It is now very dusty, in fact, my most dusty lens ever 
(FA*85/1.4 come 2nd).

regards,
Alan Chan

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Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)

2002-10-30 Thread Brad Dobo
Hey folks,

Well, today, went in to my camera store and ripped two salespeople up and
down about my release cable CS-130.  They pulled the order form.  Dated
August 9th 2002.  So I said that was complete unreasonable, since it's
October 30th. I talked to one of the owners.  In carefully phrased terms he
sounded like he didn't want to deal with Pentax.   They called the so-called
'Pentax Canada' and again said they were out.  Apparently it was on order
from Pentax Canada from Japan, but the boat it came by sank in the Atlantic
Ocean  ;-)  j/k  This store I use is the best in the city, they handle all
the professionals, and they work closely with the University under contract.
What is going on with Pentax??  Does anyone here think am I wrong for
waiting too long on a simple item, ordered on August 9th has still not even
arrived on October 30th, at Pentax Canada, is unreasonable?  It makes me
sick to my stomach.  So the store and 'Pentax No-Canada are going to try
other businesses in the region that may stock it.   Unbelievable.  I should
not have to deal with this.  Looks to me like they don't want my business.
I'm being to wonder.

Peeved Once More,

Brad

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Re: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)

2002-10-30 Thread David Brooks
I've been waiting 3 years to have a bay window
thats leaked all its gas to be replaced.g

Dave

 Begin Original Message 

From: Brad Dobo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 16:22:01 -0500
To: PDML \(Pentax\) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)


Hey folks,

Well, today, went in to my camera store and ripped two salespeople up 
and
down about my release cable CS-130.  They pulled the order 
form.  Dated
August 9th 2002.  So I said that was complete unreasonable, since it's
October 30th. I talked to one of the owners.  In carefully phrased 
terms he
sounded like he didn't want to deal with Pentax.   They called the so-
called
'Pentax Canada' and again said they were out.  Apparently it was on 
order
 from Pentax Canada from Japan, but the boat it came by sank in the 
Atlantic
Ocean  ;-)  j/k  This store I use is the best in the city, they 
handle all
the professionals, and they work closely with the University under 
contract.
What is going on with Pentax??  Does anyone here think am I wrong for
waiting too long on a simple item, ordered on August 9th has still 
not even
arrived on October 30th, at Pentax Canada, is unreasonable?  It makes 
me
sick to my stomach.  So the store and 'Pentax No-Canada are going to 
try
other businesses in the region that may stock it.   Unbelievable.  I 
should
not have to deal with this.  Looks to me like they don't want my 
business.
I'm being to wonder.

Peeved Once More,

Brad

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Re: A*135/f1.8 that was on Ebay

2002-10-30 Thread Fred
 Where'd my meds go?

You sold 'em, Bob, to pay for that hunk o'glass - g.

Fred





Re: A*135/f1.8 that was on Ebay

2002-10-30 Thread Fred
 I used to use a Heliopan when I had one of these lenses. I never
 had one of the 'correct' Pentax hoods for it, and when I first
 bought the lens I was given a Mamiya heavy-duty collapsible rubber
 one (which I still have somewhere). Somebody else, possibly Shel,
 used to stack Heliopans to get maximum flare protection. But my
 main interest was in physical protection - impact resistance - so
 I never really tested the Heliopan for maximum flare protection.

The RH-A77 would be almost worthless for physical protection - it's
a flimsy rubber hood that can be compressed to get it out of the
way, but which would also bend out of the way in even the smallest
impact.  Perhaps the plastic threaded mounting ring might offer a
bit of protection to the lens's own filter threads...

Fred





Re: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)

2002-10-30 Thread Doug Brewer
Good grief, a boat from Japan to Canada sank in the Atlantic Ocean? That 
would take some serious doing.

Brad, just order from someone else. You could have ordered it from a 
hundred other outlets by now.

Doug


At 04:22 PM 10/30/02 -0500, you wrote:
Hey folks,

Well, today, went in to my camera store and ripped two salespeople up and
down about my release cable CS-130.  They pulled the order form.  Dated
August 9th 2002.  So I said that was complete unreasonable, since it's
October 30th. I talked to one of the owners.  In carefully phrased terms he
sounded like he didn't want to deal with Pentax.   They called the so-called
'Pentax Canada' and again said they were out.  Apparently it was on order
from Pentax Canada from Japan, but the boat it came by sank in the Atlantic
Ocean  ;-)  j/k  This store I use is the best in the city, they handle all
the professionals, and they work closely with the University under contract.
What is going on with Pentax??  Does anyone here think am I wrong for
waiting too long on a simple item, ordered on August 9th has still not even
arrived on October 30th, at Pentax Canada, is unreasonable?  It makes me
sick to my stomach.  So the store and 'Pentax No-Canada are going to try
other businesses in the region that may stock it.   Unbelievable.  I should
not have to deal with this.  Looks to me like they don't want my business.
I'm being to wonder.

Peeved Once More,

Brad

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Re: Re[2]: A*135/f1.8 that was on Ebay

2002-10-30 Thread Rob Studdert
On 30 Oct 2002 at 21:14, Bob Walkden wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I used to use a Heliopan when I had one of these lenses. I never had
 one of the 'correct' Pentax hoods for it, and when I first bought the
 lens I was given a Mamiya heavy-duty collapsible rubber one (which I
 still have somewhere). Somebody else, possibly Shel, used to stack
 Heliopans to get maximum flare protection. But my main interest was in
 physical protection - impact resistance - so I never really tested the
 Heliopan for maximum flare protection.
 
 The Heliopan is not as physically strong or robust as, for example,
 the Pentax metal hood for the A* 85/1.4, but it's far easier to obtain
 and at a decent price.

I use Bobs old Heliopan hood on my A*135/1.8, very nice low profile and 
excellent for reducing flare especially at concerts :-)

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
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Re[2]: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)

2002-10-30 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi,

 Good grief, a boat from Japan to Canada sank in the Atlantic Ocean? That
 would take some serious doing.

it was a Pentax boat. The captain didn't see the enormous digital
iceberg heading towards him...

Bob




Re: Re[2]: A*135/f1.8 that was on Ebay

2002-10-30 Thread Kevin Waterson
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:49:11 +1000
Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 
 I use Bobs old Heliopan hood on my A*135/1.8, very nice low profile and 
 excellent for reducing flare especially at concerts :-)

Is such a lense available for the 645?

Kind regards
Kevin

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Re: OT: Great Photo of the Leonids

2002-10-30 Thread frank theriault
Hmmm.

Sounds like a great idea for a mid-week TOPDML meet!!

Where do you go to take pics, Brendan?  I'm guessing there's so much light
pollution in town, you'd have to go way up north somewhere.

And, why do you need two lawnchairs?

regards,
frank

Brendan wrote:

 2 lawn chairs, lots of coffee, 2 cameras, a 28mm f2.8
 and 50mm F1.7, 2 tripods, lots of sleep before ( it's
 on a tuesday argh!! ) and lots of luck.



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Newby

2002-10-30 Thread Richard Sheppard
Hi folks. I've just joined the list. My name is Richard and I'm 
living near Oxford, UK. I've been using Pentax stuff for about 20 yrs 
- all MF. Last year I bought a (shock horror) EOS 600 of Ebay and 
must say that I think it's a great camera. However, I don't like 
having 2 systems when I've already got a few nice Pentax fit lenses. 
I'm thinking of selling the EOS and getting a Z1 or Z1p to replace it 
with. I read on the web of some chap having overexposure problems 
when he fitted KA MF lenses to a Z1. Anyone come across this sort of 
thing? BTW my MZM seems to overexpose by about 2/3 stop so I always 
have to override the DX setting. Finally, anyone want to sell me a 
Z1p?

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Re: 1 day to go: Normal zoom poll

2002-10-30 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Arnold Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Please do not hesitate to vote, that is to say: to answer the
following 
 3 questions:

Hi Arnold,

My votes:

1)  FA*28-70/f2.8 AL
2)  FA24-90/f3.5-4.5 IFAL
3)  FA28-70/f4 AL
 
1)  Tokina 28-70 F2.8 thingy ATX whatever
2)  Tokina ATX-PRO 28-70/2.8 SV
3)  Tamron AF24-135 f/4-5.6
 
1)  FA*24-105/f2.8-4.0 IFAL
2)  FA 28-120 f/2.8-4 AL ED (IF)
3)  FA 24-105/4 (or 3.5-4.5) AL  IF  USM

Ciao,

Gianfranco

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Re: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)

2002-10-30 Thread Brad Dobo

- Original Message -
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)



 - Original Message -
 From: Pål Jensen
 Subject: Re: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)


 Considering that we are only 4,5 million people here, I cannot
 imagine the situation is worse in any part of north America
 considering the size of that market.

 Hi Pål:
 Please take this in a friendly way, as it is meant in a friendly
 way:

 You are totally out of touch with the unfortunate reality that
 is Pentax Canada Inc.

 William Robb


Thank you Bill, a person that's here and understands the problems with
Pentax Canada.

Brad




Re: Newby

2002-10-30 Thread Dan Scott
Hi Richard,

Welcome to the PDML. Don't have a Z1p for sale, but one will turn up 
eventually here.

Dan Scott

On Wednesday, October 30, 2002, at 05:37  PM, Richard Sheppard wrote:

Hi folks. I've just joined the list. My name is Richard and I'm living 
near Oxford, UK. I've been using Pentax stuff for about 20 yrs - all 
MF. Last year I bought a (shock horror) EOS 600 of Ebay and must say 
that I think it's a great camera. However, I don't like having 2 
systems when I've already got a few nice Pentax fit lenses. I'm 
thinking of selling the EOS and getting a Z1 or Z1p to replace it 
with. I read on the web of some chap having overexposure problems when 
he fitted KA MF lenses to a Z1. Anyone come across this sort of thing? 
BTW my MZM seems to overexpose by about 2/3 stop so I always have to 
override the DX setting. Finally, anyone want to sell me a Z1p?

Richard Sheppard
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Re: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)

2002-10-30 Thread Brad Dobo

- Original Message -
From: Chris Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)


 On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Brad Dobo wrote:

  Seriously.  I am not going to pay USD and all the other hassles to get
this
  product, I have never done so and will never do so.  I'm old fashioned
yet
  young.  I will not give out Visa numbers on the Internet nor over the
phone.
  My mother is a bank manager and you'll be appalled at the stuff that
happens
  with fraud.  It also makes it more expensive and harder to return if
  something is screwy.

 Why not? My experiences have been fast, fun and easy. I've ordered a
 $20USD Light bulb for my enlarger, it worked fine (it shipped el'
 cheapo ground too!). I've spent $2000CAD online at dell's website to buy a
 new computer.  Millions do it daily. so whats the big deal? I like to keep
 my money in Canada, but if I can't source something locally, why stress
 out about it?

I told ya! ;-)  I simply will not on principle and cautiousness

  So, my only other alternative.  I could order it from the say 10 stores
  (some are not real camera stores) here in London, and area, and they
would
  all put their orders into the same place 'Pentax No-Canada'.  I don't
know
  how I'd go to dealers across the province to get this (seeing if each
one
  had it in stock).  The gas would cost more than their most expensive
lens,
  and by the time I got home with my cable, a year would have past and my
  order from the store arrived!  ;-).  If Pentax Canada cannot get
something
  so simple, I think Pentax has a real problem at least here in NA.  If
they
  want to sell the MZ-S here, they should be selling it's accessories.
They
  should at least have them in stock.  I know this is a bad market area
for
  them, so I understand when my store (or the others) does not have them
on
  the shelf because they simply won't sell.  But I would expect, unless
  ordering the 2000mm mirror or similar, that Pentax Canada would keep
stock
  on these items.  It's a lousy release cable.  The other 3 I am told by
my
  store, takes 1-5 days to get even the strangest items.  Pentax, at least
in
  NA, is dying I'm afraid (or maybe just Canada)  Remember, Pentax Canada
is
  one location in the largest country in the world.

 Pentax Canada has an office in Vancouver too.  Call.  I find it hard to
 belive that Pentax is dying.  I see so many new MZ bodies at different
 events, parades, hockey games, etc.  I see a good mix or Nikon, Canon, and
 pentax, even a few Minoltas.  Maybe its just London, ON. Have you tried
 calling any stores in Toronto?  I've had good experiences with McBain
 Camera in Edmonton, thats in Canada too.

Does Vancouver have an office or a warehouse?  Still, I won't be getting
them from there.

 http://www.mcbaincamera.com/SLR/pentax/bodyAcc.htm

 They even have the CS-130 listed.  $120 CAD

First, that is $15 more than my store, and I'm not about to drive to
Edmonton.  (You already know I won't do Visa, etc over 'net or phone.)

 It really does sound like Your store is giving you the run around. It
 may be too much work for them to bother, or they just don't sell enough
 Pentax gear.  I see lots of Pentaxes in BC, maybe thats the difference.

Well, it's not my store.  The reason the owner sorta suggested the dropping
of Pentax (and a big camera store here already has) is because of the few
customers they get for Pentax, they have these same problems, like me.  They
cannot get Pentax Canada to ship something that is not in the warehouse, and
they have taken abuse and beatings from peeved off customers and while he
didn't say it, he sorta said, they didn't need the hassle and it wasn't a
money maker for them  (Linden Photo as well, they are considering dropping
Pentax, so a young clerk told me, whether that is true or not...who knows.
Interesting about Linden is that when my store didn't have the AF360FGZ in
stock, I called them and they had it.  An anomaly)

 - Chris

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Re: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)

2002-10-30 Thread Brad Dobo
I have called Pentax USA for brochures before and they said they will not
deal anything when it comes to Canada.

- Original Message -
From: James Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)


 The cable release could be stuck in a container on a ship off the shore of
 the West coast of the US or Canada.  Between the labor lock out and know
the
 supposed slow down a lot of material is setting off shore.  Try calling
 Pentax USA to see if they have any in stock.

 Jim Fellows
 - Original Message -
 From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:00 PM
 Subject: Re: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)


 
  - Original Message -
  From: Bob Blakely
  Subject: Re: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)
 
 
   Where the hell is NA
 
  Northern Antilles
  WW
 
 





RE: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)

2002-10-30 Thread Shaun Canning
Isn't it funny how different distributors behave in different places? Pentax
is really getting pushed in the media here at the moment, and in particular
the Optio 330 and 430's and binoculars. Mainly because it is spring, and
that means horse races The Melbourne Cup, Caulfield Cup, Cox Plate etc
etc. Now this may be an entirely Victorian phenomenon, because of the spring
racing carnival, but I haven't noticed any other manufacturers advertising
at all. I'm talking mainstream prime-time TV ads here.

As for Brad's dilemma. Mate your really up s*t creek unless you want to
purchase online, or at least travel to somewhere that has the parts you
want. Same goes for the ads mentioned above, distributors are funny things.
There's a box of cable releases less than 75 kilometres from my door.yet
you can't get one for love nor money.

cheers

Shaun Canning
PhD Student
Archaeology Department
La Trobe University, Bundoora,
Australia, 3086.

e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 0414-967 644

-Original Message-
From: Brad Dobo [mailto:brad.dobo;rogers.com]
Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2002 12:01
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)


- Original Message -
From: Chris Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)


 On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Brad Dobo wrote:

  Seriously.  I am not going to pay USD and all the other hassles to get
this
  product, I have never done so and will never do so.  I'm old fashioned
yet
  young.  I will not give out Visa numbers on the Internet nor over the
phone.
  My mother is a bank manager and you'll be appalled at the stuff that
happens
  with fraud.  It also makes it more expensive and harder to return if
  something is screwy.

 Why not? My experiences have been fast, fun and easy. I've ordered a
 $20USD Light bulb for my enlarger, it worked fine (it shipped el'
 cheapo ground too!). I've spent $2000CAD online at dell's website to buy a
 new computer.  Millions do it daily. so whats the big deal? I like to keep
 my money in Canada, but if I can't source something locally, why stress
 out about it?

I told ya! ;-)  I simply will not on principle and cautiousness

  So, my only other alternative.  I could order it from the say 10 stores
  (some are not real camera stores) here in London, and area, and they
would
  all put their orders into the same place 'Pentax No-Canada'.  I don't
know
  how I'd go to dealers across the province to get this (seeing if each
one
  had it in stock).  The gas would cost more than their most expensive
lens,
  and by the time I got home with my cable, a year would have past and my
  order from the store arrived!  ;-).  If Pentax Canada cannot get
something
  so simple, I think Pentax has a real problem at least here in NA.  If
they
  want to sell the MZ-S here, they should be selling it's accessories.
They
  should at least have them in stock.  I know this is a bad market area
for
  them, so I understand when my store (or the others) does not have them
on
  the shelf because they simply won't sell.  But I would expect, unless
  ordering the 2000mm mirror or similar, that Pentax Canada would keep
stock
  on these items.  It's a lousy release cable.  The other 3 I am told by
my
  store, takes 1-5 days to get even the strangest items.  Pentax, at least
in
  NA, is dying I'm afraid (or maybe just Canada)  Remember, Pentax Canada
is
  one location in the largest country in the world.

 Pentax Canada has an office in Vancouver too.  Call.  I find it hard to
 belive that Pentax is dying.  I see so many new MZ bodies at different
 events, parades, hockey games, etc.  I see a good mix or Nikon, Canon, and
 pentax, even a few Minoltas.  Maybe its just London, ON. Have you tried
 calling any stores in Toronto?  I've had good experiences with McBain
 Camera in Edmonton, thats in Canada too.

Does Vancouver have an office or a warehouse?  Still, I won't be getting
them from there.

 http://www.mcbaincamera.com/SLR/pentax/bodyAcc.htm

 They even have the CS-130 listed.  $120 CAD

First, that is $15 more than my store, and I'm not about to drive to
Edmonton.  (You already know I won't do Visa, etc over 'net or phone.)

 It really does sound like Your store is giving you the run around. It
 may be too much work for them to bother, or they just don't sell enough
 Pentax gear.  I see lots of Pentaxes in BC, maybe thats the difference.

Well, it's not my store.  The reason the owner sorta suggested the dropping
of Pentax (and a big camera store here already has) is because of the few
customers they get for Pentax, they have these same problems, like me.  They
cannot get Pentax Canada to ship something that is not in the warehouse, and
they have taken abuse and beatings from peeved off customers and while he
didn't say it, he sorta said, they didn't need the hassle and it wasn't a
money maker for them  (Linden Photo as well, they are considering 

Re: Brad's Nasty CS-130

2002-10-30 Thread William Robb
Brad, if McBains has one, mail em a cheque.

William Robb




Re: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)

2002-10-30 Thread Brad Dobo
I may die of shock if I saw Pentax advertising here.  Especially on TV!

Yes, I'm up that dirty creek.  I'm not too happy about it and honestly want
to take everything and sell it and save and get a Nikon or Canon DSLR.   No
more bull.  If Pentax can't meet needs, it won't survive.  I don't care if
it's local, Pentax Canada, or Pentax.

What I just laugh my rear off at is that they are coming out with a new 35mm
SLR?  LOL  Just when everyone is going digital...that's Pentax for ya.  Was
the MZ-S (in sales, not performance) not enough of a flop?  Looks to me like
they are digging their own grave.

Now, ya all hear this. :-)  Just because I'm ticked at Pentax doesn't mean
I'm insulting the group or individuals.  So no flames, please.  I'm still a
Pentax owner, so here I am.  I still will need help with it, so here I am.
Did I make a wrong choice right from the beginning?  I am starting to think
so.  Unless Pentax gets their act together.  I happen to like what I've been
able to get my hands on.  They make it hard however.

Just a random thought, this Pentax DSLR, coming out in what...the PCA?  Or
something.  Anyhow, what if it doesn't come out, everyone had all these same
reactions up to and a couple days past the Photokina.  If they don't come
out with a DSLR, what will you do?

Regards,

Brad Dobo

- Original Message -
From: Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:15 PM
Subject: RE: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)


 Isn't it funny how different distributors behave in different places?
Pentax
 is really getting pushed in the media here at the moment, and in
particular
 the Optio 330 and 430's and binoculars. Mainly because it is spring, and
 that means horse races The Melbourne Cup, Caulfield Cup, Cox Plate etc
 etc. Now this may be an entirely Victorian phenomenon, because of the
spring
 racing carnival, but I haven't noticed any other manufacturers advertising
 at all. I'm talking mainstream prime-time TV ads here.

 As for Brad's dilemma. Mate your really up s*t creek unless you want to
 purchase online, or at least travel to somewhere that has the parts you
 want. Same goes for the ads mentioned above, distributors are funny
things.
 There's a box of cable releases less than 75 kilometres from my
door.yet
 you can't get one for love nor money.

 cheers

 Shaun Canning
 PhD Student
 Archaeology Department
 La Trobe University, Bundoora,
 Australia, 3086.

 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Phone: 0414-967 644

 -Original Message-
 From: Brad Dobo [mailto:brad.dobo;rogers.com]
 Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2002 12:01
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)


 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:16 PM
 Subject: Re: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)


  On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Brad Dobo wrote:
 
   Seriously.  I am not going to pay USD and all the other hassles to get
 this
   product, I have never done so and will never do so.  I'm old fashioned
 yet
   young.  I will not give out Visa numbers on the Internet nor over the
 phone.
   My mother is a bank manager and you'll be appalled at the stuff that
 happens
   with fraud.  It also makes it more expensive and harder to return if
   something is screwy.
 
  Why not? My experiences have been fast, fun and easy. I've ordered a
  $20USD Light bulb for my enlarger, it worked fine (it shipped el'
  cheapo ground too!). I've spent $2000CAD online at dell's website to buy
a
  new computer.  Millions do it daily. so whats the big deal? I like to
keep
  my money in Canada, but if I can't source something locally, why stress
  out about it?

 I told ya! ;-)  I simply will not on principle and cautiousness

   So, my only other alternative.  I could order it from the say 10
stores
   (some are not real camera stores) here in London, and area, and they
 would
   all put their orders into the same place 'Pentax No-Canada'.  I don't
 know
   how I'd go to dealers across the province to get this (seeing if each
 one
   had it in stock).  The gas would cost more than their most expensive
 lens,
   and by the time I got home with my cable, a year would have past and
my
   order from the store arrived!  ;-).  If Pentax Canada cannot get
 something
   so simple, I think Pentax has a real problem at least here in NA.  If
 they
   want to sell the MZ-S here, they should be selling it's accessories.
 They
   should at least have them in stock.  I know this is a bad market area
 for
   them, so I understand when my store (or the others) does not have them
 on
   the shelf because they simply won't sell.  But I would expect, unless
   ordering the 2000mm mirror or similar, that Pentax Canada would keep
 stock
   on these items.  It's a lousy release cable.  The other 3 I am told by
 my
   store, takes 1-5 days to get even the strangest items.  Pentax, at
least
 in
   NA, is dying I'm afraid 

Re: Brad's Nasty CS-130

2002-10-30 Thread Brad Dobo
I don't yet have any 'personal cheques' and many places won't accept plain
old cheques.  I plan on doing a little more bitching (not here), but in
Pentax's ear.  I'd like to find out when the rep comes to my store so I can
put him into a full nelson ;-) until he coughs up the release.

Oh, and you can all thank me for lighting up the conversation.  At least
we're all into it :-)  And it isn't even mean yet!  I hope it stays that
way.  In the meantime, I'll accept US money orders for the conversation
lighting, contact me offline ;-)

- Original Message -
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: Brad's Nasty CS-130


 Brad, if McBains has one, mail em a cheque.

 William Robb





Re: Re[2]: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)

2002-10-30 Thread Brad Dobo
Lol, you guys are diffusing my anger  ;-)

- Original Message -
From: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 4:59 PM
Subject: Re[2]: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)


 Hi,

  Good grief, a boat from Japan to Canada sank in the Atlantic Ocean? That
  would take some serious doing.

 it was a Pentax boat. The captain didn't see the enormous digital
 iceberg heading towards him...

 Bob





Re: Focus screen preferences?

2002-10-30 Thread gfen
On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Rob Studdert wrote:
 So if you care I wouldn't mind hearing of your screen type preference
 (based on the three main types, 35mm, 645 and 67) and why this is so?

I learned photography on a rangefinder, and I always wanted a view like
that again, but didn't get it (yet), because I don't own a range finder.

Then I got a ZX-50, and I only used AF, so the matte screen didn't bother
me.

Then I got a ZX-5n, and started doing manual focus. The matte screen was
useless, except it had a focus confirm, which I've come to depend on.

Then I was going to buy a 645, which should have a split image, and I
figured this would be almost as good as that old ranger finder, when the
body came it had the matte grid on it, and I was bitter...until I realized
the 645 was big enough that I _could_ manually focus on it, and now I'm
quite happy.. with the grid lines, I can actually get a straight horizon!

That said, I'm on vacation and ignroing mail as much as I can.. I'm
tearing thorugh the 900 messages that have piled up since Satuday.. Took
some pictures at my brother's child's christening this weekend, then went
up north to upper NY state to take some fall photos, only to have
miserable days.. Taught myself how to mount pictures, setting up two for a
show I'm going to be in next week (what does one charge for a matted and
framed 8x10? my cost is about $25/per, gallery takes 25%, so what, $75
seems fair or should I go higher?).. And that's about it.

Oh, and I started to actually UPDATE my 18% website.

-- 
http://www.infotainment.org   - more fun than a poke in your eye.
http://www.eighteenpercent.com- photography and portfolio.




Re: Prints from slides questions

2002-10-30 Thread gfen
On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Tom Reese wrote:
 get something usable from a commercial lab but they were awful. No contrast,
 colors were off, highlights were washed out. Just terrible. Now to my
 questions:

I took my first slide to print to a commerical Ritz lab which usually
makes me happy, and took a slide loaded with vibrant colour..

http://www.eighteenpercent.com/c4.html

I got something back that has NONE of this colour in it, and I'm confused.
I'm going to take a digital copy of this and ask for teh same thing, and
then ask them to explain why they can't reproduce this as that was done.

I was told you can only get those kinds of colours from a cibachrome,
and while I'll buy that the colours won't be AS vibrant, surely the washed
out thing I got back can't be right, can it?

(wish I had a copy of what they gave me, but I do not)


-- 
http://www.infotainment.org   - more fun than a poke in your eye.
http://www.eighteenpercent.com- photography and portfolio.




Re: MZ-S vs Z-1p

2002-10-30 Thread Brad Dobo
Well, I won't believe it until I can hold one.  In my area that means it'll
never come out ;)

Jokingly,

Brad

 Yes we have. Pentax UK say they will make three slr's and I happen to know
 in which segments they fit. One of them is high-end. I don't know how
 high-end.
 Also, large camera stores in japan has been told from Pentax reps that
 Pentax will release a fabulous film slr.

 Pål
 Pål





RE: David Hume Kennerly on NPR

2002-10-30 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Ahhh, good point.  Unfortunately, or fortunately to avoid more travel, I
will be working at Ironman Florida.  Should I mention being around some of
the world´s finest triathletes?

César
Panama City, Florida

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-- From: Christian Skofteland [mailto:c_skofteland;mindspring.com]
-- Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:56 PM
--
-- It is a weekend.
--
-- Christian Skofteland
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
--
-- - Original Message -
-- From: Cesar Matamoros II [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:34 AM
-- Subject: RE: David Hume Kennerly on NPR
--
--
--  Oh sure, wait until I am gone.
-- 
--  I know when I am not appreciated - sniff, sniff...
-- 
--  All in all, with the way work is going I would rather be
-- up north...
-- 
--  At least it is warmer here,
-- 
--  Cesar
--  Panama City, Florida
--




Re: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)

2002-10-30 Thread frank theriault
Brad,

I really don't think anyone here would think anything one way or t'other if you
sold off your Pentax gear and bought another system.  People do it all the
time.  I can think of a couple of regular contributors here that have sold off a
goodly amount of their Pentax systems over the last few months

If you're unhappy with Pentax, either the equipment or the service, or both, you
should get into a system that suits your needs.  Complaining to this list will
not solve your photographic problems (not that I have a problem with your
venting here).  Getting into a system that you're happy with will.

regards,
frank

Brad Dobo wrote:

 I may die of shock if I saw Pentax advertising here.  Especially on TV!

 Yes, I'm up that dirty creek.  I'm not too happy about it and honestly want
 to take everything and sell it and save and get a Nikon or Canon DSLR.   No
 more bull.  If Pentax can't meet needs, it won't survive.  I don't care if
 it's local, Pentax Canada, or Pentax.

 What I just laugh my rear off at is that they are coming out with a new 35mm
 SLR?  LOL  Just when everyone is going digital...that's Pentax for ya.  Was
 the MZ-S (in sales, not performance) not enough of a flop?  Looks to me like
 they are digging their own grave.

 Now, ya all hear this. :-)  Just because I'm ticked at Pentax doesn't mean
 I'm insulting the group or individuals.  So no flames, please.  I'm still a
 Pentax owner, so here I am.  I still will need help with it, so here I am.
 Did I make a wrong choice right from the beginning?  I am starting to think
 so.  Unless Pentax gets their act together.  I happen to like what I've been
 able to get my hands on.  They make it hard however.

 Just a random thought, this Pentax DSLR, coming out in what...the PCA?  Or
 something.  Anyhow, what if it doesn't come out, everyone had all these same
 reactions up to and a couple days past the Photokina.  If they don't come
 out with a DSLR, what will you do?

 Regards,

 Brad Dobo

 - Original Message -
 From: Shaun Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 8:15 PM
 Subject: RE: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)

  Isn't it funny how different distributors behave in different places?
 Pentax
  is really getting pushed in the media here at the moment, and in
 particular
  the Optio 330 and 430's and binoculars. Mainly because it is spring, and
  that means horse races The Melbourne Cup, Caulfield Cup, Cox Plate etc
  etc. Now this may be an entirely Victorian phenomenon, because of the
 spring
  racing carnival, but I haven't noticed any other manufacturers advertising
  at all. I'm talking mainstream prime-time TV ads here.
 
  As for Brad's dilemma. Mate your really up s*t creek unless you want to
  purchase online, or at least travel to somewhere that has the parts you
  want. Same goes for the ads mentioned above, distributors are funny
 things.
  There's a box of cable releases less than 75 kilometres from my
 door.yet
  you can't get one for love nor money.
 
  cheers
 
  Shaun Canning
  PhD Student
  Archaeology Department
  La Trobe University, Bundoora,
  Australia, 3086.
 
  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Phone: 0414-967 644
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Brad Dobo [mailto:brad.dobo;rogers.com]
  Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2002 12:01
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Chris Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:16 PM
  Subject: Re: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)
 
 
   On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Brad Dobo wrote:
  
Seriously.  I am not going to pay USD and all the other hassles to get
  this
product, I have never done so and will never do so.  I'm old fashioned
  yet
young.  I will not give out Visa numbers on the Internet nor over the
  phone.
My mother is a bank manager and you'll be appalled at the stuff that
  happens
with fraud.  It also makes it more expensive and harder to return if
something is screwy.
  
   Why not? My experiences have been fast, fun and easy. I've ordered a
   $20USD Light bulb for my enlarger, it worked fine (it shipped el'
   cheapo ground too!). I've spent $2000CAD online at dell's website to buy
 a
   new computer.  Millions do it daily. so whats the big deal? I like to
 keep
   my money in Canada, but if I can't source something locally, why stress
   out about it?
 
  I told ya! ;-)  I simply will not on principle and cautiousness
 
So, my only other alternative.  I could order it from the say 10
 stores
(some are not real camera stores) here in London, and area, and they
  would
all put their orders into the same place 'Pentax No-Canada'.  I don't
  know
how I'd go to dealers across the province to get this (seeing if each
  one
had it in stock).  The gas would cost more than their most expensive
  lens,
and by the time I got home with my cable, a year would 

Re: Brad's Nasty CS-130

2002-10-30 Thread Rob Studdert
On 30 Oct 2002 at 20:42, Brad Dobo wrote:

 I don't yet have any 'personal cheques' and many places won't accept plain
 old cheques. 

Well buy a postal money order then, it couldn't be that difficult?

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html




Re: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)

2002-10-30 Thread Paul Stenquist


Brad Dobo wrote:
 
 If they don't come
 out with a DSLR, what will you do?
 

Uh, if Pentax doesn't come out with a DSLR, I'll continue to make
photographs with my Spotmatics, my LX, my MX, and my 6x7. And if Pentax
does come out with a DSLR, I'll continue to make photographs with my
Spotmatics, my LX, my MX, and my 6x7. Is your Pentax incapable of
recording images on film? Mine are all functioning quite well, thank you.
Paul Stenquist




Re: A*135/f1.8 that was on Ebay

2002-10-30 Thread Fred
 I have this lens and I love it but I sure would hate to have it
 fall on a hard surface. [snip] Needless to say, I take
 extraordinarily good care of it.

I also, for the sake of safety, only use the lens when I really need
its qualities (especially its speed).  I often take the K 135/2.5 on
the road instead - not only is this safer for the 135/1.8, but the K
135/2.5 is a rugged little lens that is quite good in its own right.

I know that some might say that, if you have a good lens you should
use it all the time.  However, I'd be a really unhappy buckaroo if
something dastardly happened to the ol' 135/1.8.  I'll use it, but I
simply won't use it routinely...

Fred





Re: A*135/f1.8 that was on Ebay

2002-10-30 Thread Fred
 I used to use a Heliopan when I had one of these lenses.

Does anyone know which model of Heliopan hood to look for?

Fred





RE: A*135/f1.8 that was on Ebay

2002-10-30 Thread Shaun Canning
Insure it Fred, you'll feel a whole lot better if it happens to go splat!

Shaun Canning
PhD Student
Archaeology Department
La Trobe University, Bundoora, 
Australia, 3086.

e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 0414-967 644

-Original Message-
From: Fred [mailto:fwcetus;erols.com]
Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2002 01:49
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A*135/f1.8 that was on Ebay

 I have this lens and I love it but I sure would hate to have it
 fall on a hard surface. [snip] Needless to say, I take
 extraordinarily good care of it.

I also, for the sake of safety, only use the lens when I really need
its qualities (especially its speed).  I often take the K 135/2.5 on
the road instead - not only is this safer for the 135/1.8, but the K
135/2.5 is a rugged little lens that is quite good in its own right.

I know that some might say that, if you have a good lens you should
use it all the time.  However, I'd be a really unhappy buckaroo if
something dastardly happened to the ol' 135/1.8.  I'll use it, but I
simply won't use it routinely...

Fred





Re: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)

2002-10-30 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Brad Dobo
Subject: Re: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)


 What I just laugh my rear off at is that they are coming out
with a new 35mm
 SLR?  LOL  Just when everyone is going digital...that's Pentax
for ya.  Was
 the MZ-S (in sales, not performance) not enough of a flop?
Looks to me like
 they are digging their own grave.

The MZ-S is a weird camera. It's not going to get a Nikon or
Canon user excited because on paper it doesn't compete.
And everyone knows that pros use Nikon or Canon.
The MZ-S isn't my cup of tea, but if I had to buy three of them
tomorrow to replace the LX fleet, I could live with them over
the competition's SLRs.


 Did I make a wrong choice right from the beginning?

Why did you buy an MZ-S? Did you buy it because it had a 7 fps
motordrive, and a 42 point autofocus? If you did, then yes, you
should have read the brochure more closely.

No one buys Pentax for cutting edge camera body technology.
It's been this way for 40 years.

One buys Pentax to use Pentax lenses, which are, IMO, the best
lenses available.

Is there a problem with your MZ-S? Does it not live up to it's
specification? You bought it to shoot film, right?
Or did you buy it to shoot digital?
If you bought it to shoot film, and it does what it is supposed
to do, then it was the right choice.
If it doesn't, then you have to look at why.

Does the camera perform as advertised?

If it does, then you made the wrong choice, sorry.

If it doesn't, then you have a beef with Pentax, The same way
anyone who buys a defective product has a beef with the company.


 Just a random thought, this Pentax DSLR, coming out in
what...the PCA?  Or
 something.  Anyhow, what if it doesn't come out, everyone had
all these same
 reactions up to and a couple days past the Photokina.  If they
don't come
 out with a DSLR, what will you do?

So what?  If they make one, that's nice. If they don't,
whatever.
I don't really care one way or the other. My life doesn't depend
on whether Pentax makes a digital SLR.
Your's doesn't either, if you think about it.
For myself, I will keep shooting film.
I like film.

William Robb





Re: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)

2002-10-30 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Brad Dobo
Subject: Re: Brad's Pentax Gripe Gets Nasty ;-)


 Thank you Bill, a person that's here and understands the
problems with
 Pentax Canada.

I really do envy Pål regarding Pentax Norway's service.
He has a reliable LX, and maintains the LX is a good reliable
camera.
I have 3 LX's, none of which are particularly reliable.
I can't even blame the hard Canadian climate, as he lives
farther north than I do.
It also sounds like Pentax Norway is fairly pro-active with
customer service.

Oh, u, I really don't blame PCI for not stocking the 2000mm
lens.
The big lenses like that tend to be built in very small batches,
as they don't really sell all that many of them. Having them in
stock won't change that.
I had a customer ask me to inquire after the Nikkor 2000mm
reflex several years ago. At that time, the street price on that
lens was 12-16k.
NCI confirmed the price and gave a delivery time of a few
months. They didn't have one in all of North America.

I have a story wanting to get out, please bear with me..

After I bought my F3, I decided I wanted a 50mm f/1.2 lens to go
with it.
I was able to order my 50mm f/1.2 directly from NCI, it was a
perk of working for the camera store. I got it for 10% off best
dealer net.
I paid about 600.00 for it.
I waited nearly 5 months to get it. Apparently, it was built to
order from parts, as Nikon only sold about 50 of then a year,
worldwide.
The day it came was a happy one, for a while. I put my new lens
onto my F3 and took it to show a buddy.
I know I had it mounted and locked on properly.
Anyway, the lens fell off the camera and hit the sidewalk.
It broke the UV filter, but the filter ring saved the threads,
and jammed the focus helicoid.
It took a few days for the local repair guy to fix, and when I
got it back, the helicoid jammed again shortly therafter.
Apparently, it collimated OK, but I didn't think it was right.
Basically the lens was a mess, and never worked properly.

I never got to find out if it was a good lens.

William Robb







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