Re: PAW (PESO?): Street Festival, Little Italy

[Jens Bladt]

Very nice, "life confirming" everyday-life photograph. I like it.
Jens  


mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 19. januar 2005 00:33
Til: PDML
Emne: PAW (PESO?): Street Festival, Little Italy


Grabbed this one last summer whilst walking about a street festival in
Toronto's Little Italy:

http://www.leica-camera.com/discus_e/messages/11/107616.jpg

As always, you may let me know what you think, if you're so inclined. 
Thanks in advance.

cheers,
frank
-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: PESO: While the Dog Waited

[David Mann]

On Jan 19, 2005, at 1:12 PM, Cotty wrote:
May the sewers of Rangoon back up into your latte.
Ever tried Civet coffee?  It's apparently the best that money can buy.
http://nomoresocks.newscientist.com/products/detail.aspx?ProductID=303
Cheers,
- Dave (hot chocolate for me, thanks)
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

Re: NLQ

[David Mann]

On Jan 19, 2005, at 4:22 PM, frank theriault wrote:
She was quite amazed that this thing printed in "real time".  None of
this "compose, correct and print" stuff.  Hit the letter key, and
instantly it comes up on the paper, misprints and all.
Ahh yes, Tippex.  I remember it well.
Cheers,
- Dave (oh no, I'm old)
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

Re: NLQ

[David Mann]

On Jan 19, 2005, at 5:23 AM, Graywolf wrote:
Yah, I had one of those Xerox Daiseywheel printers once. I remember 
sending out a resume printed with it on good paper and getting a 50% 
response from it. No job, but people actually wrote back to tell me 
they didn't have a job. That typeset quality printing sure made it 
past the secretaries which is the hardest hurdle to get by.
When shifting house recently I found something in a drawer that amused 
me... a rejection letter from the very company I currently work for.

I'm thinking about framing it and hanging it on my cubicle wall.
Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

PESO: Jumping

[Juan Buhler]

Waiting for the train tonight, this little girl seemed really happy to
see it approaching:

http://www.jbuhler.com/blog/archives/0172.html

(istD, FA35/2, ISO1600)

j

-- 
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog

Re: OT-Coffee Theory-was: PESO: While the Dog Waited

[Jim Apilado]

Roasting beans.  French press.  I did all that stuff.  Now I enjoy Instant
Folgers.  Why?  It takes too long to get the "ideal" coffee beverage.

Jim A.

> From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:54:45 -0500
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: OT-Coffee Theory-was: PESO: While the Dog Waited
> Resent-From: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:54:46 -0500
> 
> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 01:52:02 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Bob aptly noted:
>>> It's an American peculiarity to equate high popularity with high
>>> quality.
>> 
>> Well, I can't dispute that. Popularity proves nothing. Witness McDonalds,
>> Coca-Cola, and Budweiser. But as a lifelong coffee drinker who consumes
>> upwards of a quart a day, I still contend that Starbucks is more drinkable
>> than most. However, I didn't like it at first. The dark roast is definitely
>> an acquired taste. I continued to drink ti because I found the one Starbucks
>> that i frequent a pleasant place to spend an hour or two. Now I enjoy their
>> coffee. Although I must add that I can make better coffee at home with
>> Sumatra beans that I purchase in bulk and a simple coffee press. In any case
>> this has wandered far off topic, and I'm sure it's taking far too much space.
>> Paul
>> 
> 
> You're right, Paul, this is getting more than a bit OT, but that never
> stopped me before!  
> 
> I'm far from an expert in coffee (or anything for that matter ),
> but I'll tell you (and everyone else) something.  If you want good
> coffee, buy green beans and roast them yourself.  It's quite easy,
> doesn't take all that long, and one learns a bit about the whole
> coffee roasting thing.  I can't tell beans from one country or region
> to another.  But, there's nothing as good as coffee from fresh (as in
> 5 minutes ago) roasted beans, freshly ground, brewed properly in a
> French Press coffeemaker.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
> 

Re: Pentax 1,000mm F8 K lens

[David Mann]

On Jan 19, 2005, at 1:58 AM, Cotty wrote:
I'm sure Peter in Sunny Brighton used to have one for sale. He might 
even
still have it.
Stop it, you're making me feel guilty :)
It was me who pointed out a very large Pentax-labelled trunk case while 
waiting in line for Photographica to open for dealers.

I don't see it on his website: perhaps he kept it for shooting, ummm, 
wildlife on Brighton beach.

Cheers,
- Dave
http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

Re: WTB Black MX

[Shel Belinkoff]

I also have two black MX ;-))

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I also have two black MXs! One semi-dead, seems to need a CLA to fix
> what looks like sticky mirror. The other is very much alive and well
> and is one of my two main film cameras (the other is the Leica). With
> the istD, both the MX and the M6 have seen little use, though I would
> not part with them now.

Re: Want to See a Photo that will Blow you Away?

[Tim Sherburne]

Cool! There's even a *istD/DA-14 entry from the 17th.

I notice some entries from digicams have long exposures (14min +). Isn't
this generally considered a no-no due to CCD issues?

t

On 1/18/05 22:17, Tom C wrote:

> Check this out on the Jan 19 edition of spaceweather.com.   Other photos in
> his gallery are stunning as well.  If you, by chance, don't see it, go to
> their archives by date.
> 
> http://www.spaceweather.com/
> 
> Tom C.
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: Noisy *istD shutter

[Doug Franklin]

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 01:39:41 -0500 (EST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Doug Franklin mused:
> > I'd be surprised if the criteria were _that_ stringent.  NVRAM commonly
> > has a lifetime of a million writes to each location.  And they're
> > _very_ conservative on that rating.  I've personally written code that
> > wrote to the same location in an NVRAM module more than 3.5 billion
> > times successfully, on a device with a design lifetime of a million
> > writes.  I'm not saying it was the right thing to do, but it was done,
> > nonetheless.
> 
> Hmm. Seems to have got a lot better (not surprising, considering
> the increase in CF technology).  Last time I looked, some of the
> stuff was only rated for 8K writes or so; 32K was uncommon. Power
> requirements went up with write cycles, too.

Well, now, I don't know that the devices we used were in any way
related to the devices that get used in, for example, cameras.  We were
building a product that was 1/4 U sized with a PowerPC, 32 MB of DRAM,
and a generous power budget.  In the much more constrained environment
of a DSLR, much less capable devices might be used due to
considerations like power consumption.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Re: Finally - enabled

[Shel Belinkoff]

The MX is lighter, and smaller in many dimensions, than the Leica.  The
pentaprism makes it a somewhat larger camera in height, but otherwise the
MX is a scosh narrower, about the same with, and only a tiny bit taller
than the Leica because of the pentaprism.  It looks like John's put up a
comparison, but if you'd like to see a pic of a Leica and the MX together,
just say the word.  And, depending on the lenses used, some Pentax lenses
are smaller than the equivalent Leica glass, for example, the M85/2.0 is a
LOT smaller and lighter than the Leica 90/2.0.  The MX can end up being a
smaller, lighter package overall.

The controls for both are simple and straightforward.  The LX has more
information in the viewfinder than is needed, and to some, this writer
included, the colorful busy finder can be a distraction.  The MX finder is
very simple, very similar in concept to the finder in the Leicas that have
a built-in meter.  By that I mean there's minimal information, not a lot of
lights, readouts, and extraneous details.  They are both, IMO, cxameras for
the photographer who doesn't want or need a lot of help when making an
exposure.  

The MX is also quieter than the LX and many other SLR cameras, although not
as quiet as the Leica.  Both can easily be carried in a jacket, or even a
large shirt, pocket.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Date: 1/18/2005 8:59:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Finally - enabled
>
> Quoting Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> >  The MX is the
> > Pentax version of the Leica ...
>
>
> Isn't it very similar in size to the M-ajority of M-series Leicas? I
thought 
> I read that somewhere.
> Less mass, I believe, but the dimensions ... ?
> Of course, also the control layout.
> I've never owned a Leica and only handled one briefly, a couple of times,
so 
> I'm basing this on pictures and written specs. Whereas you, I believe,
have 
> plenty of experience with both.
>
> ERNR

Re: Noisy *istD shutter

[johnf]

Doug Franklin mused:
> 
> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:13:27 -0500 (EST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > > > Maybe.  But as it's NVRAM, you can't write it too often.
> > > > I'd bet that rewriting the last frame number after every
> > > > exposure is probably going to exceed the rewrite limit.
> 
> I'd be surprised if the criteria were _that_ stringent.  NVRAM commonly
> has a lifetime of a million writes to each location.  And they're
> _very_ conservative on that rating.  I've personally written code that
> wrote to the same location in an NVRAM module more than 3.5 billion
> times successfully, on a device with a design lifetime of a million
> writes.  I'm not saying it was the right thing to do, but it was done,
> nonetheless.

Hmm. Seems to have got a lot better (not surprising, considering
the increase in CF technology).  Last time I looked, some of the
stuff was only rated for 8K writes or so; 32K was uncommon. Power
requirements went up with write cycles, too.

RE: OT-Coffee Theory-was: PESO: While the Dog Waited

[Tom C]

Frank wrote:
I'm far from an expert in coffee (or anything for that matter ),
but I'll tell you (and everyone else) something.  If you want good
coffee, buy green beans and roast them yourself.  It's quite easy,
doesn't take all that long, and one learns a bit about the whole
coffee roasting thing.  I can't tell beans from one country or region
to another.  But, there's nothing as good as coffee from fresh (as in
5 minutes ago) roasted beans, freshly ground, brewed properly in a
French Press coffeemaker.
Frank, you're a man after my own heart.  This is right up my alley to try.  
I've considered it but just haven't taken the time.  I have made my own 
wine... love to cook and grill, and am going to construct a solar-powered 
observatory dome this summer.  I definitely like the do-for-selfer aspect of 
this.

FWIW, I consulted to Starbucks for 6 months (IT related) and worked at the 
Corp HQ in Seattle a couple of years back.  A wonderful work environment, 
just like a big 11-story Starbucks retail establishment.  Has all the 
problems of any big corporation, but it was a comfortable place to work with 
all the central staircases, wood flooring, comfy meeting areas with velvet 
and leather seating, and a fully stocked espresso kitchen in every quadrant 
of every floor, free for walking up and making.

Cool, now I have something else to try.
Tom C.

Want to See a Photo that will Blow you Away?

[Tom C]

Check this out on the Jan 19 edition of spaceweather.com.   Other photos in 
his gallery are stunning as well.  If you, by chance, don't see it, go to 
their archives by date.

http://www.spaceweather.com/
Tom C.

Re: Noisy *istD shutter

[Doug Franklin]

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:13:27 -0500 (EST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > > Maybe.  But as it's NVRAM, you can't write it too often.
> > > I'd bet that rewriting the last frame number after every
> > > exposure is probably going to exceed the rewrite limit.

I'd be surprised if the criteria were _that_ stringent.  NVRAM commonly
has a lifetime of a million writes to each location.  And they're
_very_ conservative on that rating.  I've personally written code that
wrote to the same location in an NVRAM module more than 3.5 billion
times successfully, on a device with a design lifetime of a million
writes.  I'm not saying it was the right thing to do, but it was done,
nonetheless.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Re: Finally - enabled

[johnf]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] mused:
> 
> Quoting Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>   
> > [comments re LX and then] ... the MX is a more elegant piece of equipment
> > designed for and excelling at straight ahead photography.  The MX is the
> > Pentax version of the Leica ...
> 
> 
> Isn't it very similar in size to the M-ajority of M-series Leicas? I thought 
> I read that somewhere.
> Less mass, I believe, but the dimensions ... ?

Perhaps you're thinking of this image from the MX promotional material:

  http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/mx.jpg

There was a similar comparison for the ME, too:

  http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/me.jpg

Re: Noisy *istD shutter

[johnf]

Rob Studdert mused:
> 
> On 18 Jan 2005 at 21:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Maybe.  But as it's NVRAM, you can't write it too often.
> > I'd bet that rewriting the last frame number after every
> > exposure is probably going to exceed the rewrite limit.
> > 
> > If the *ist-D had battery-backed RAM you'd be OK, but
> > that's going to need a hardware change.
> 
> So where is all the other shot to shot NV information stored?

What other information changes every shot?   Sure, you *could*
change PF settings every frame, or even more frequently than
that, but it's a good bet nobody is going to actually do that.

The frame number, though, is guaranteed to change every time.

Re: Finally - enabled

[ernreed2]

Quoting Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

  
> [comments re LX and then] ... the MX is a more elegant piece of equipment
> designed for and excelling at straight ahead photography.  The MX is the
> Pentax version of the Leica ...


Isn't it very similar in size to the M-ajority of M-series Leicas? I thought 
I read that somewhere.
Less mass, I believe, but the dimensions ... ?
Of course, also the control layout.
I've never owned a Leica and only handled one briefly, a couple of times, so 
I'm basing this on pictures and written specs. Whereas you, I believe, have 
plenty of experience with both.

ERNR

Re: PESO: Berkeley, 2002

[Juan Buhler]

Thanks Frank--I don't really think that picture stands on its own. I
posted it because I thought it complemented nicely Shel's picture.

Thanks for commenting,

j


On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:48:35 -0500, frank theriault
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 02:21:26 -0800, Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Had to go to my archives for this:
> >
> > http://photos3.flickr.com/3418918_00970a25ef_o.jpg
> >
> > (just a snap, but to follow up on some other PESO PAW posted earlier
> > today--gues who's the guy in the mirror)
> >
> 
> Here's one that "fell through the cracks".  Missed this from a couple
> of days ago.
> 
> Cool shot (even with that questionable looking fellow's mug in the
> mirror ).  I've seen that guy on the bike before!
> 
> Interesting to compare that your photo to Shel's photo, which looks
> like it was taken almost simultaneously.  Two quite different
> interpretations!
> 
> Cool shot, though.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
> --
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
> 
> 


-- 
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog

Re: OT-Coffee Theory-was: PESO: While the Dog Waited

[Daniel Matyola]

Gee, Frank, are you trying to out-snob the Brits?

-- Original Message --
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Bob aptly noted:
>> > It's an American peculiarity to equate high popularity with
high quality.

>I'm far from an expert in coffee (or anything for that matter ),
>but I'll tell you (and everyone else) something.  If you want good
>coffee, buy green beans and roast them yourself.
>cheers,
>frank 


Sent via the KillerWebMail system at stanleypmlaw.com


 
   

Re: film may be dead, but...

[Steve Sharpe]

At 11:06 PM -0500 1/18/05, Steve Sharpe wrote:
At 7:42 AM +0100 1/18/05, Carlos Royo wrote:
Steve Sharpe escribió:
I just ordered an MZ-S!
 I am sure you will enjoy it. It is an excellent camera.
Unfortunately there do not appear to be any new battery grips 
available for it in this country.
...and after posting this I checked the B&H site, and the BG-10 is 
now in stock, so I ordered one of them as well.
--
Steve
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
•

http://www.delith.com/main/sbs.html

Re: film may be dead, but...

[Steve Sharpe]

At 10:24 PM -0500 1/18/05, frank theriault wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:37:02 -0500, Steve Sharpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 I just ordered an MZ-S!
 --
 Steve
On behalf of film-camera owners everywhere:
Thank you!
I figure it will be my last film camera...at least in 35mm. Digital 
is still a few years away for me, I think.
--

Steve
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
•

Re: PESO: While the Dog Waited

[John Francis]

On Wed, Jan 19, 2005 at 12:12:34AM +, Cotty wrote:
> On 18/1/05, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >Cotty wrote:
> >>When i'm working out of the Gloucester (pr. Gloss'tur) office, I
> >>sometimes pop into the Starbucks with colleagues. Being a tea drinker,
> >>for a change I have a coffee. Last time i was there i ordered the largets
> >>one they do (what was it a grande??) and boy - all that caffeine - I
> >>literally bounced down the street afterwards. I looked like a druggy a
> >>couple of hours late!!
> >>
> >>Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.
> >
> >Boring.
> 
> May the sewers of Rangoon back up into your latte.

Aah.  You've identified the mystery Starbucks ingredient.

Seriously, though:  Starbucks isn't terrible.  They over-roast
their beans in an attempt to disguise the mediocre quality, but
there are many places that use far worse quality materials.

My complaint is that they've fairly successfully "educated"
the American public that bitterness is a sign of quality, so
even many of the places that start of with better beans roast
the coffee more than necessary (or even acceptable).

For an example of what can be done, even with fairly cheap
ingredients, try Trader Joe's Sumatran Lintong; it's a light
roast, and sells for around $6:50 for a 1lb tin.  Of late I've
taken to blending this about 50 - 50 with my favourite choice
(Ethiopian Harrar) because the local coffee roasting company
has shut down, and the only two places I've found that sell
Harrar both over-roast it.

Two scoops of each in a French press is what we use (and my
wife is doing precisely that, as I sit here and type this).

Re: film may be dead, but...

[Steve Sharpe]

At 7:42 AM +0100 1/18/05, Carlos Royo wrote:
Steve Sharpe escribió:
I just ordered an MZ-S!
 I am sure you will enjoy it. It is an excellent camera.
Unfortunately there do not appear to be any new battery grips 
available for it in this country.
--
Steve
•

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Finally - enabled

[Shel Belinkoff]

I think the LX is a bloated pig of a camera compared to the MX , and the
only reason I use mine is when there's a need or desire to use one of the
accessory finders or if the more evolved metering system is desirable. 
It's loud, it's heavy, it doesn't fit as readily into the Domke satchel,
and reduces what I can carry in the way of equipment.  It's a very nice
camera in many ways, but AFAIC the MX is a more elegant piece of equipment
designed for and excelling at straight ahead photography.  The MX is the
Pentax version of the Leica ...

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Owning an LX and an MX, I have no desire to get another ME Super. I truly 
> can't think of anything they do that the LX doesn't do better -- except
for 
> the size/weight/noise issue, and the MX matches them there.

Re: Finally - enabled

[ernreed2]

Quoting frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:58:49 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Quoting frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > 
> > Owning an LX and an MX, I have no desire to get another ME Super. I
> truly
> > can't think of anything they do that the LX doesn't do better -- except
> for
> > the size/weight/noise issue, and the MX matches them there.
> > 
> 
> I love both my MX and my LX.  If I could get another of either of
> those bodies for the price of an ME, I surely would.  But, here in the
> Great White North, it's hard to find a decent MX for under $300 Cdn,
> and an LX for under $500 (note that I said, "hard to", but not
> impossible).
> 
> Meanwhile, an ME can be gotten at used camera shops for about $100,
> with a warrantee and everything.  That's hard to beat for a nice,
> compact, metal-bodied camera.


Well, of course, to each ... If you do get yourself an ME Super, it'll have a 
good home and you'll put it to good use.

I probably shouldn't have said what I did in the first place. 

And you're right about it being a good price for a nice, compact, metal-
bodied camera. 

ERNR

Re: Noisy *istD shutter

[Rob Studdert]

On 18 Jan 2005 at 21:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Maybe.  But as it's NVRAM, you can't write it too often.
> I'd bet that rewriting the last frame number after every
> exposure is probably going to exceed the rewrite limit.
> 
> If the *ist-D had battery-backed RAM you'd be OK, but
> that's going to need a hardware change.

So where is all the other shot to shot NV information stored?


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: Finally - enabled

[frank theriault]

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:58:49 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Quoting frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> Owning an LX and an MX, I have no desire to get another ME Super. I truly
> can't think of anything they do that the LX doesn't do better -- except for
> the size/weight/noise issue, and the MX matches them there.
> 

I love both my MX and my LX.  If I could get another of either of
those bodies for the price of an ME, I surely would.  But, here in the
Great White North, it's hard to find a decent MX for under $300 Cdn,
and an LX for under $500 (note that I said, "hard to", but not
impossible).

Meanwhile, an ME can be gotten at used camera shops for about $100,
with a warrantee and everything.  That's hard to beat for a nice,
compact, metal-bodied camera.

cheers,
frank


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: PAW (PESO?): Street Festival, Little Italy

[Butch Black]

You did the right thing by leaving the shot as is.  Eating sandwiches,
snacks, and finger food is all part of a street festival.
Shel
Also the fact that the woman stooping is holding an empty paper plate at 
least suggests some connection with the man eating. a family group perhaps?

Butch 

Re: Finally - enabled

[ernreed2]

Quoting frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> One of these days I have to get me an ME or ME Super.  They seem to be
> going for a song and a dance right about now.  I love the size of the
> M series bodies.

Owning an LX and an MX, I have no desire to get another ME Super. I truly 
can't think of anything they do that the LX doesn't do better -- except for 
the size/weight/noise issue, and the MX matches them there.

ERNR

Re: Semi-newbie question: MX or something else?

[ernreed2]

Quoting Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Nah, you digital guys have eroded the prices. A good working black MX (not
> 
> pretty) will go for about $85-100 now. A minty one is in the price range
> you 
> mention. Prices are creeping back up at this time however.
> 
> graywolf
> http://www.graywolfphoto.com
> "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
> ---
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Addendum to my previous message: Black MX cameras are somewhat scarce and
> more expensive than the chrome models. They usually go for well over $200.
> That should make your repairs much more practical if indeed they are
> possible.
> > Paul


Yeah, I see KEH selling a chrome one for about five to ten dollars less than 
I paid them for my black one. So what Graywolf says above fits in with my 
very limited observation.
And, like Cotty, I'm hoarding my black MX. (Though mine works. I think.)

ERNR

Re: PESO: Playing with Macro 2

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 1/18/2005 7:45:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So, now I know the mystery, I like the sea shell one a great deal. 
NIcely designed (or captured, whatever the case may be), I like the
blend of symmetry and assymetry.  An engaging "semi-abstract", it's
fun finding patterns in the photo, even where they don't exist 

I like the stark simplicity of the tree shot.  Simple, but effective.

Well done on both counts.

cheers,
frank
==
Thanks, frank. I dumped the pinecones because some didn't like them, and I 
knew they were not my best effort. And I took the trees the same day and liked 
them. I don't feel I have to stay "locked in" on PESOs. If I share something 
under that title and want to later remove it from my index page, I will.

Appreciate your comments and looking. A lot.

Marnie aka Doe :-) Thanks.

Re: Fighting Spyware

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Mishka"
Subject: Re: Fighting Spyware


Interestingly, nowhere in my furnace warranty does it guarantee
absolutely that nothing will go wrong with the unit.
well, you've got a lousy deal. my furnace does have some 
warranty -- a few years
of full replacement.
A few years of full replacement is not the same thing as guaranteeing 
that nothing will go wrong.
Nor does it necessarily mean they are responsible for repairing flood 
damage in the event a loss of heat causes burst water pipes.

William Robb 

Re: PESO: Berkeley, 2002

[frank theriault]

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 02:21:26 -0800, Juan Buhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Had to go to my archives for this:
> 
> http://photos3.flickr.com/3418918_00970a25ef_o.jpg
> 
> (just a snap, but to follow up on some other PESO PAW posted earlier
> today--gues who's the guy in the mirror)
> 

Here's one that "fell through the cracks".  Missed this from a couple
of days ago.

Cool shot (even with that questionable looking fellow's mug in the
mirror ).  I've seen that guy on the bike before!

Interesting to compare that your photo to Shel's photo, which looks
like it was taken almost simultaneously.  Two quite different
interpretations!

Cool shot, though.

cheers,
frank


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: PESO: Playing with Macro 2

[frank theriault]

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 02:10:42 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> ===
> Okay, I've dumped the pinecone and put in some trees instead. Nothing
> fantastic, but some of my favorite trees. That way I avoid any more people 
> telling me
> the pinecone stunk. Hehehehe. (I have some where it's obvious they are all
> pinecones, but I those were sort of boring.)
> 
> Still interested in any comments on macro shot. And/or trees.
> 
> http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/
> 

I couldn't figure out why people were talking about pine cones, yet I
couldn't find any pine cones.

So, now I know the mystery, I like the sea shell one a great deal. 
NIcely designed (or captured, whatever the case may be), I like the
blend of symmetry and assymetry.  An engaging "semi-abstract", it's
fun finding patterns in the photo, even where they don't exist 

I like the stark simplicity of the tree shot.  Simple, but effective.

Well done on both counts.

cheers,
frank
-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

RE: While the dog waited

[Butch Black]

William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "Albano Garcia" Subject: Re: PESO:
While the Dog Waited

Do you u.s. Americans take coffees that big?!??
Now I understand lots of things ;-)

We non u.s. Canadians take coffee that big as well.
Starbucks is pretty much the worst coffee in the world though.
William Robb

Only for the price, I've had worse, but much less expensive.
I agree. I find Starbuck's coffee has a burnt taste to it. They roast their 
beans at too high of a temperature for too long. Dunkin Donuts ranges from 
drinkable to dishwater. 30 years ago they made a good cup of coffee. It's 
hard to find a well brewed cup of coffee unless you know a good local 
source.

Butch 

Re: PAW (PESO?): Street Festival, Little Italy

[Shel Belinkoff]

Ahh, but the detail is there, and it's not difficult to bring out. I think
it's reasonable to expect to see such detail.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> As far as 
> the people in the background are concerned, you certainly can't expect 
> to see much detail since they are out of focus due to depth of field. 
> To expect to see detail in the purse on the far left background or in 
> the dress on the far right background is not realistic

Re: PAW (PESO?): Street Festival, Little Italy

[Paul Stenquist]

DOH...I meant to add that i looked at Frank's shot again on the monitor 
that I use to prepare files for printing and files for stock and 
publication. It still looked good. Not perfect, but good. I don't trust 
the i-book of course, but I do trust my work monitor.
On Jan 18, 2005, at 10:27 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I first viewed this image on my i-book, and it looked quite good. I 
like the fact that it's somewhat high contrast and a bit on the dark 
side, because it draws attention to the principal characters. As far 
as the people in the background are concerned, you certainly can't 
expect to see much detail since they are out of focus due to depth of 
field. To expect to see detail in the purse on the far left background 
or in the dress on the far right background is not realistic, although 
both of these elements are clearly defined against the rest of the 
background.. I look at Frank's images as flatbed scans of prints. 
They're a representation of the print rather than perfected internet 
images. I must admit that if it were my image I would have worked it 
in shadows/highlights a bit and re-evaluated it after that step. Yet 
it's by no means a disaster in grayscale. The paper plate shows shadow 
below the rim. The little girl's face is nice detailed in its balance 
of shadow and highlight. The tones range from almost pure white to 
almost pure black, with plenty of variations in between.  That's an 
acceptable range by any measure. My monitor is, of course, operating 
at 1.8 gamma. i think that anyone who is working with photographs 
should be at 1.8. At 2.2, the photo is way off. But 2.2 is for video 
games, not photography. All of the stock houses I've worked with 
insist that photos display correctly at 1.8 gamma., because most 
purchasers of stock are working at 1.8. That's generally the standard 
for photography. At 1.8, Frank's photo is quite satisfactory.

 On Jan 18, 2005, at 9:51 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Hi Paul,
I'm having a hard time with you saying that this image has a nice 
range of
grayscale and  good contrast.  You must be seeing something on your 
screen
that's very different than what's on my screen.  Frank's rendition of 
the
image has blown highlights (note, for example, the paper plate being 
held
by the woman), minimal, and sometimes blocked shadow detail, and an 
overall
dark tone.  The Maple Leafs logo shows virtually no separation of tone
between its background and the cap proper, and a couple of people in 
the
background have all but disappeared into a deep murkiness.  There are
details on the little girl's jacket that are either lost or barely 
visible,
the purse being carried by the woman on the far left side of the frame
shows no shadow detail, a reflection in a window is obscured, the 
woman's
dress in the upper right side of the image shows no detail, and so 
on.  I
see many, many problems with this image, as I usually do with many of
Frank's pics.  Perhaps it's because you're using a Mac, with a 
different
screen gamma than a PC, that you see this as an image as you 
described.

I've discussed this with Frank several times, and have shown him other
versions of some of his posted pics where the image tonality has been
opened up, shadows and dark areas given some detail, highlights toned 
down
to show detail rather than pure white.  He's agreed that some of these
alterations looked better than the posted pics and more like the 
original
prints.

My screen may not be perfectly calibrated, but it's pretty close, and
considering the number of people who say that some of my images are 
too
dark, the screen before me can't be so far off, and may in fact even 
be a
scosh too bright, so on that basis, I should be seeing more than I am.

Anyway, I played with this image a bit and sent the results to Frank, 
who
felt it was superior to his posting.  He may put it up, and it will be
interesting to see how they compare for you (and others), and if the 
new
rendition looks too bright or washed out.  Considering the number of 
images
put up here on the list, I cannot help but wonder if there might be a 
way
to have all our monitors calibrated so they are closer to one another.
Maybe that's too much to ask, however, considering this is a 
photography
list, a list from which we learn from one another, share our vision, 
and
explore things visually, might a "global" calibration be something to 
shoot
for, and is it even possible to do?

Shel

[Original Message]
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I like this a lot. Excellent composition and framing. Nice range of
grayscale, good contrast.

Best M42 body?

[m.s.gill]

IMHO Chinon CM 3 is better with match  LED metering instead of match needle,
depth of field preview by pressing the shutter release half way and shutter
speed same 1/1000 ,
flash speed 1/125 and provision for winder(2fps) metter lock which is not
available on
Pentax
spotmatic F. Spotmatic F a well reputed gear and discussed on many occasions
on this
mailing list and also other sites. But unfortunately problem of battery
1.35V MS76 which is difficult to locate for gears made during that period.
  If one locates K bayonet mount to screw adapter
B&H price $44.95 then K mount lenses can be used on this gear which i am
thinking to add but expensive too. i sold Spotmatic F due to non provision
of winder which is unfortunately my weakness and lack of off switch.
Gill
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:00:49 -0600
From: "Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PDML" 
Subject: Best M42 body?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

A while back there was mention of some M42
mount bodies with superior viewfinders.
I believe Fujica and Ricoh were among them.
What M42 bodies have you found to be the
best as far as viewfinder/weight/features, etc?

Re: PAW (PESO?): Street Festival, Little Italy

[Paul Stenquist]

I first viewed this image on my i-book, and it looked quite good. I 
like the fact that it's somewhat high contrast and a bit on the dark 
side, because it draws attention to the principal characters. As far as 
the people in the background are concerned, you certainly can't expect 
to see much detail since they are out of focus due to depth of field. 
To expect to see detail in the purse on the far left background or in 
the dress on the far right background is not realistic, although both 
of these elements are clearly defined against the rest of the 
background.. I look at Frank's images as flatbed scans of prints. 
They're a representation of the print rather than perfected internet 
images. I must admit that if it were my image I would have worked it in 
shadows/highlights a bit and re-evaluated it after that step. Yet it's 
by no means a disaster in grayscale. The paper plate shows shadow below 
the rim. The little girl's face is nice detailed in its balance of 
shadow and highlight. The tones range from almost pure white to almost 
pure black, with plenty of variations in between.  That's an acceptable 
range by any measure. My monitor is, of course, operating at 1.8 gamma. 
i think that anyone who is working with photographs should be at 1.8. 
At 2.2, the photo is way off. But 2.2 is for video games, not 
photography. All of the stock houses I've worked with insist that 
photos display correctly at 1.8 gamma., because most purchasers of 
stock are working at 1.8. That's generally the standard for 
photography. At 1.8, Frank's photo is quite satisfactory.

 On Jan 18, 2005, at 9:51 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
Hi Paul,
I'm having a hard time with you saying that this image has a nice 
range of
grayscale and  good contrast.  You must be seeing something on your 
screen
that's very different than what's on my screen.  Frank's rendition of 
the
image has blown highlights (note, for example, the paper plate being 
held
by the woman), minimal, and sometimes blocked shadow detail, and an 
overall
dark tone.  The Maple Leafs logo shows virtually no separation of tone
between its background and the cap proper, and a couple of people in 
the
background have all but disappeared into a deep murkiness.  There are
details on the little girl's jacket that are either lost or barely 
visible,
the purse being carried by the woman on the far left side of the frame
shows no shadow detail, a reflection in a window is obscured, the 
woman's
dress in the upper right side of the image shows no detail, and so on. 
 I
see many, many problems with this image, as I usually do with many of
Frank's pics.  Perhaps it's because you're using a Mac, with a 
different
screen gamma than a PC, that you see this as an image as you described.

I've discussed this with Frank several times, and have shown him other
versions of some of his posted pics where the image tonality has been
opened up, shadows and dark areas given some detail, highlights toned 
down
to show detail rather than pure white.  He's agreed that some of these
alterations looked better than the posted pics and more like the 
original
prints.

My screen may not be perfectly calibrated, but it's pretty close, and
considering the number of people who say that some of my images are too
dark, the screen before me can't be so far off, and may in fact even 
be a
scosh too bright, so on that basis, I should be seeing more than I am.

Anyway, I played with this image a bit and sent the results to Frank, 
who
felt it was superior to his posting.  He may put it up, and it will be
interesting to see how they compare for you (and others), and if the 
new
rendition looks too bright or washed out.  Considering the number of 
images
put up here on the list, I cannot help but wonder if there might be a 
way
to have all our monitors calibrated so they are closer to one another.
Maybe that's too much to ask, however, considering this is a 
photography
list, a list from which we learn from one another, share our vision, 
and
explore things visually, might a "global" calibration be something to 
shoot
for, and is it even possible to do?

Shel

[Original Message]
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I like this a lot. Excellent composition and framing. Nice range of
grayscale, good contrast.

Re: film may be dead, but...

[frank theriault]

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:37:02 -0500, Steve Sharpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just ordered an MZ-S!
> --
> Steve

On behalf of film-camera owners everywhere:

Thank you!



-frank


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: NLQ

[frank theriault]

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:35:18 +1300, David Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  I even remember real typewriters,

Back when I had an office, with a secretary and everything, we had an
IBM Selectric (the "ball" typwriter).  Even then (early 90's) it was
getting a bit long-in-the-tooth, but my secretary sometimes used to
for addressing envelopes and the like.

A couple of years ago, when I was clearing out a storage locker, I
came across it, and took it up to my apartment, just to gaze at it for
a while - I always thought they were an examplar of industrial design.

My youngest, Claire, who was probably around 8 at the time, looked at
it in puzzlement, then finally asked, "Daddy, where's the screen?"  It
occurred to me that she'd never seen a typewriter before!!

She was quite amazed that this thing printed in "real time".  None of
this "compose, correct and print" stuff.  Hit the letter key, and
instantly it comes up on the paper, misprints and all.

Her revelation was an eye-opener to both of us.  

cheers,
frank
-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: WTB Black MX

[frank theriault]

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:40:41 -0500, Peter J. Alling
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, we taunt them to death, Frank might even taunt them using a silly
> Fraunch Auccont...

Go away, you silly Ainglish Peeg-Dogs.  Ah empty ze contents of mah
nose in your gen-e-ral dah-rection!!

Howsat?  (not very good in text, I'm afraid, but I actually do a
pretty good French Canadian accent "live and in person").

-frank (hopefully I didn't insult any ~real~ francophones - of which I'm not)

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: PAW (PESO?): Street Festival, Little Italy

[Shel Belinkoff]

Frank,

I'm not suggesting that you should give up contact sheets, but you can make
contacts and galleries that enable you to see your work very nicely on the
computer screen, and since the images may be larger than the little images
on a contact sheet, they may actually be more useful in some ways. 
Photoshop allows you to do make these contacts and galleries with just a
couple of mouse clicks.  Lately I've been making galleries that I can
scroll through allowing me to examine an entire roll of pics as 4x6 or 5x7
sized images.  Very nice ;-))  Of course, one needs a little hard drive
space.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From Frank Theriault

> A final thought:   I posted this photo because I was looking though
> some old contacts (from the summer), looking for another shot, and
> noticed this one which seems to have escaped my eye the first time. 
> That's why I love contacts.  I don't know that I'd do the same if all
> my shots were on a hard drive somewhere...

OT-Coffee Theory-was: PESO: While the Dog Waited

[frank theriault]

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 01:52:02 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bob aptly noted:
> > It's an American peculiarity to equate high popularity with high
> > quality.
> 
> Well, I can't dispute that. Popularity proves nothing. Witness McDonalds, 
> Coca-Cola, and Budweiser. But as a lifelong coffee drinker who consumes 
> upwards of a quart a day, I still contend that Starbucks is more drinkable 
> than most. However, I didn't like it at first. The dark roast is definitely 
> an acquired taste. I continued to drink ti because I found the one Starbucks 
> that i frequent a pleasant place to spend an hour or two. Now I enjoy their 
> coffee. Although I must add that I can make better coffee at home with 
> Sumatra beans that I purchase in bulk and a simple coffee press. In any case 
> this has wandered far off topic, and I'm sure it's taking far too much space.
> Paul
> 

You're right, Paul, this is getting more than a bit OT, but that never
stopped me before!  

I'm far from an expert in coffee (or anything for that matter ),
but I'll tell you (and everyone else) something.  If you want good
coffee, buy green beans and roast them yourself.  It's quite easy,
doesn't take all that long, and one learns a bit about the whole
coffee roasting thing.  I can't tell beans from one country or region
to another.  But, there's nothing as good as coffee from fresh (as in
5 minutes ago) roasted beans, freshly ground, brewed properly in a
French Press coffeemaker.

cheers,
frank




-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: PAW (PESO?): Street Festival, Little Italy

[Shel Belinkoff]

Hi Paul,

I'm having a hard time with you saying that this image has a nice range of
grayscale and  good contrast.  You must be seeing something on your screen
that's very different than what's on my screen.  Frank's rendition of the
image has blown highlights (note, for example, the paper plate being held
by the woman), minimal, and sometimes blocked shadow detail, and an overall
dark tone.  The Maple Leafs logo shows virtually no separation of tone
between its background and the cap proper, and a couple of people in the
background have all but disappeared into a deep murkiness.  There are
details on the little girl's jacket that are either lost or barely visible,
the purse being carried by the woman on the far left side of the frame
shows no shadow detail, a reflection in a window is obscured, the woman's
dress in the upper right side of the image shows no detail, and so on.  I
see many, many problems with this image, as I usually do with many of
Frank's pics.  Perhaps it's because you're using a Mac, with a different
screen gamma than a PC, that you see this as an image as you described.

I've discussed this with Frank several times, and have shown him other
versions of some of his posted pics where the image tonality has been
opened up, shadows and dark areas given some detail, highlights toned down
to show detail rather than pure white.  He's agreed that some of these
alterations looked better than the posted pics and more like the original
prints.

My screen may not be perfectly calibrated, but it's pretty close, and
considering the number of people who say that some of my images are too
dark, the screen before me can't be so far off, and may in fact even be a
scosh too bright, so on that basis, I should be seeing more than I am.  

Anyway, I played with this image a bit and sent the results to Frank, who
felt it was superior to his posting.  He may put it up, and it will be
interesting to see how they compare for you (and others), and if the new
rendition looks too bright or washed out.  Considering the number of images
put up here on the list, I cannot help but wonder if there might be a way
to have all our monitors calibrated so they are closer to one another. 
Maybe that's too much to ask, however, considering this is a photography
list, a list from which we learn from one another, share our vision, and
explore things visually, might a "global" calibration be something to shoot
for, and is it even possible to do?

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I like this a lot. Excellent composition and framing. Nice range of
grayscale, good contrast.

Re: PAW (PESO?): Street Festival, Little Italy

[frank theriault]

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:46:38 -0500, frank theriault
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
.  More importantly, it just looks
> way better than my original posf. 

That should be "my original POST".  Don't worry, I'm not trying to
sneak in new acronyms (actually it's an initialism, but everyone calls
these things acronyms - but I digress...).

-knarf

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: NLQ

[Graywolf]

I remember a tour of the Ford Motor Company Data Center (early 80's) they had a 
high speed printer there. That was so fast the paper rose up 3-4 feet in the air 
before it fell into the receiving rack. Thing sounded like a Mini-Gun. I seem to 
recall they said it printed 6000 lines a minute.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---
D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote:
Doug Franklin wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:34:00 -0500 (EST), D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote:
The print head did not move -- it was a single row of pins that
extended all the way across the page.  Something like 600 lines
per minute, I think, but I may have misremembered.
Nope, there definitely were some of them that ran that fast.  Those
machines were _awesome_ (me being a geek and all).  Plus, they made
this really cool, high pitched *riiippp* sound as they
printed.  You expected the paper to turn to dust. :-)

Yup, yup, sounded way more like a shredder than a printer, except
for the added sound of paper flapping out the back of it!  And 
nowhere near as loud as the 350 lpm printer next to it that did
have a normal print head that shot back and forth across the page,
but did so Really Really fast.  That one violently rocked the desk
it was on while making a sound as though a demon from Sluggy 
Freelance was trapped inside and trying to escape.  The 600 lpm
just made that ripping noise you described and produced almost no
vibration.  It was indeed awesome.

We had it hooked to an Intel 310 running a special Intel version
of Xenix 3.mumble (a few more Berkeleyisms than standard Xenix 3,
IIRC).  The machine on which I learned Unix by being told, "Go be
sysadmin of that".
The first laser printer I saw had two modes, the more useful of
which was an emulation of a popular daisy-wheel printer of the
time with the addition of a few font-change commands that didn't
work very well.  (I think the other mode was a severely broken
Epson emulation.)  As I recall, it didn't do graphics at all.
Huh.  This thinking about retrocomputing has reminded me that 
I need to figure out how to get some software off my Lisa and
onto something else so I can find out whether it'll run in the
"Classic" environment under Mac OS X the next time I visit my
girlfriend.  (Just because the question came up at a party and
now I'm wondering whether Mac software backwards compatability
is really as impressive as Pentax lens/body backwards compatability.
I figure "Classic" under OS X is kind of like the M42-K adaptor,
and if I can run Lisa software under that, it'd be analogous to
using the 39mm-M42 adaptor to stick a really ancient lens on
an *ist-D, right?  But you obviously can't run OS X code on 
a Lisa because, ah, uh, the diameter of the mount would require
changing the registration distance, yeah, that's it!  (Okay, okay,
the analogy breaks down unless I can figure out what "the software
runs but you lose infinity focus" could possibly mean.))  

Oy, I just reread that last paragraph and realized it's a good
thing I didn't try to drive to rehearsal feeling like this...
-- Glenn
PS:  What would an Apple II emulator under OS X be analogous
to in lens-mount compatibility terms?


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Re: Noisy *istD shutter

[johnf]

Rob Studdert mused:
> 
> On 18 Jan 2005 at 18:12, Don Sanderson wrote:
> 
> > The ist-D is going to live in infamy forever for it's
> > battery glitches, now ain't it? ;-)
> 
> I'm pretty pleased with its battery performance however I don't have AF 
> engaged 
> very often. My biggest problem is with the fact that it forgets the last 
> frame 
> count when the batteries go flat with the camera switched on. This problem 
> however could be corrected in a firmware update.

Maybe.  But as it's NVRAM, you can't write it too often.
I'd bet that rewriting the last frame number after every
exposure is probably going to exceed the rewrite limit.

If the *ist-D had battery-backed RAM you'd be OK, but
that's going to need a hardware change.

Re: NLQ

[Herb Chong]

a body cap pinhole.
Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: "D. Glenn Arthur Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: NLQ


PS:  What would an Apple II emulator under OS X be analogous
to in lens-mount compatibility terms?

Re: PAW (PESO?): Street Festival, Little Italy

[frank theriault]

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:32:55 -0500, frank theriault
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Grabbed this one last summer whilst walking about a street festival in
> Toronto's Little Italy:

FWIW, Shel diddled around with this one for me, and it is now much
more faithful to the original print.  More importantly, it just looks
way better than my original posf.  With his permission, here is
the photo again, with more appropriate levels:

http://www.leica-camera.com/discus_e/messages/11/107771.jpg

I have a large tome that tells all about how photographers should use
PS - I guess I better read it one of these days, eh?  

BTW, thanks for the "pixel washing", Shel.Oh, and BTW, thanks
to all those who have commented on this one.

A final thought:   I posted this photo because I was looking though
some old contacts (from the summer), looking for another shot, and
noticed this one which seems to have escaped my eye the first time. 
That's why I love contacts.  I don't know that I'd do the same if all
my shots were on a hard drive somewhere...

cheers,
frank
-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: NLQ

[D. Glenn Arthur Jr.]

Doug Franklin wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:34:00 -0500 (EST), D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote:
> > The print head did not move -- it was a single row of pins that
> > extended all the way across the page.  Something like 600 lines
> > per minute, I think, but I may have misremembered.
> 
> Nope, there definitely were some of them that ran that fast.  Those
> machines were _awesome_ (me being a geek and all).  Plus, they made
> this really cool, high pitched *riiippp* sound as they
> printed.  You expected the paper to turn to dust. :-)

Yup, yup, sounded way more like a shredder than a printer, except
for the added sound of paper flapping out the back of it!  And 
nowhere near as loud as the 350 lpm printer next to it that did
have a normal print head that shot back and forth across the page,
but did so Really Really fast.  That one violently rocked the desk
it was on while making a sound as though a demon from Sluggy 
Freelance was trapped inside and trying to escape.  The 600 lpm
just made that ripping noise you described and produced almost no
vibration.  It was indeed awesome.

We had it hooked to an Intel 310 running a special Intel version
of Xenix 3.mumble (a few more Berkeleyisms than standard Xenix 3,
IIRC).  The machine on which I learned Unix by being told, "Go be
sysadmin of that".


The first laser printer I saw had two modes, the more useful of
which was an emulation of a popular daisy-wheel printer of the
time with the addition of a few font-change commands that didn't
work very well.  (I think the other mode was a severely broken
Epson emulation.)  As I recall, it didn't do graphics at all.


Huh.  This thinking about retrocomputing has reminded me that 
I need to figure out how to get some software off my Lisa and
onto something else so I can find out whether it'll run in the
"Classic" environment under Mac OS X the next time I visit my
girlfriend.  (Just because the question came up at a party and
now I'm wondering whether Mac software backwards compatability
is really as impressive as Pentax lens/body backwards compatability.
I figure "Classic" under OS X is kind of like the M42-K adaptor,
and if I can run Lisa software under that, it'd be analogous to
using the 39mm-M42 adaptor to stick a really ancient lens on
an *ist-D, right?  But you obviously can't run OS X code on 
a Lisa because, ah, uh, the diameter of the mount would require
changing the registration distance, yeah, that's it!  (Okay, okay,
the analogy breaks down unless I can figure out what "the software
runs but you lose infinity focus" could possibly mean.))  

Oy, I just reread that last paragraph and realized it's a good
thing I didn't try to drive to rehearsal feeling like this...

-- Glenn

PS:  What would an Apple II emulator under OS X be analogous
to in lens-mount compatibility terms?

Re: film may be dead, but...

[Mishka]

let's check the logic:

(hypothesis) "film is dead" + 
(observation) a film body sells for close to a $1K 
=> contradiction

(hypothesis) "Balda is dead" + 
(observation) a new looking Balda sells for $10 
=> ???

what exactly did you try to show here?

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 06:37:33 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Definitive proof that Balda is alive and well.
> Look at this brand spanking new looking camera.
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=67380&item=3866807933&rd=1
> 
> William Robb
> 
>

Re: PAW (PESO?): Street Festival, Little Italy

[pnstenquist]

I like this a lot. Excellent composition and framing. Nice range of grayscale, 
good contrast. A very nice shot in my estimation.
Paul


> Very nice, Frank, as usual.
> 
> As Shel said, I wouldn't crop it. Besides the fact that cutting the
> guy's head off would be bad, I like reading the "Maple Leafs" in his
> cap.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> j
> 
> 
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:32:55 -0500, frank theriault
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Grabbed this one last summer whilst walking about a street festival in
> > Toronto's Little Italy:
> > 
> > http://www.leica-camera.com/discus_e/messages/11/107616.jpg
> > 
> > As always, you may let me know what you think, if you're so inclined.
> > Thanks in advance.
> > 
> > cheers,
> > frank
> > --
> > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Juan Buhler
> http://www.jbuhler.com
> blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog
> 

Re: Fighting Spyware

[Mishka]

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:35:03 -0500, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ?
> I was joking, actually. The end user license agreement of Win2k makes no
> warranty that the system won't crash or have problems.
!
here you have a $300 product that explicitely says that it may or may not work
and the manufacturer couldn't care less...

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 06:23:45 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Interestingly, nowhere in my furnace warranty does it guarantee
> absolutely that nothing will go wrong with the unit.

well, you've got a lousy deal. my furnace does have some warranty -- a few years
of full replacement.

best,
mishka

Re: NLQ

[Collin R Brendemuehl]

At 20:31 2005.01.18 -0500, you wrote:
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:00:05 -0500
From: "Doug Franklin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pentax-discuss@pdml.net" 
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:34:00 -0500 (EST), D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote:
> The print head did not move -- it was a single row of pins that
> extended all the way across the page.  Something like 600 lines
> per minute, I think, but I may have misremembered.
Nope, there definitely were some of them that ran that fast.  Those
machines were _awesome_ (me being a geek and all).  Plus, they made
this really cool, high pitched *riiippp* sound as they
printed.  You expected the paper to turn to dust. :-)
TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
And many of the Panasonic & Okidata printers are still running.
They were built to last longer than their market niche.
(Could that have been the philosophy underlying the design of the MZ/ZX 
series?)

Collin
"You impress at a distance, but you impact a life up close. The closer the 
relationship the greater the impact."
Howard Hendricks

Re: PESO: While the Dog Waited

[Doug Franklin]

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 00:53:47 +, Bob W wrote:

> Wednesday, January 19, 2005, 12:41:19 AM, pnstenquist wrote:
> 
> > Dark roast coffees have a strong flavor. It can grow on you, but
> > at first blush it does taste bitter. If Starbucks' coffee was so
> > awful, they wouldn't be selling so much of it. 
> 
> "Nobody ever lost money underestimating the taste of the American
> public" H L Mencken
> 
> We can extend that to the UK and other countries as far as Starbucks
> horrible coffee is concerned, which I think is bland.

It's kinda like being chased by a bear.  You don't have to outrun the
bear, you just have to outrun at least one of the people that's with
you. :-)

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Re: PESO: While the Dog Waited

[pnstenquist]

Bob aptly noted:
> It's an American peculiarity to equate high popularity with high
> quality.

Well, I can't dispute that. Popularity proves nothing. Witness McDonalds, 
Coca-Cola, and Budweiser. But as a lifelong coffee drinker who consumes upwards 
of a quart a day, I still contend that Starbucks is more drinkable than most. 
However, I didn't like it at first. The dark roast is definitely an acquired 
taste. I continued to drink ti because I found the one Starbucks that i 
frequent a pleasant place to spend an hour or two. Now I enjoy their coffee. 
Although I must add that I can make better coffee at home with Sumatra beans 
that I purchase in bulk and a simple coffee press. In any case this has 
wandered far off topic, and I'm sure it's taking far too much space. 
Paul

Re: PAW (PESO?): Street Festival, Little Italy

[Juan Buhler]

Very nice, Frank, as usual.

As Shel said, I wouldn't crop it. Besides the fact that cutting the
guy's head off would be bad, I like reading the "Maple Leafs" in his
cap.

Cheers,

j


On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:32:55 -0500, frank theriault
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Grabbed this one last summer whilst walking about a street festival in
> Toronto's Little Italy:
> 
> http://www.leica-camera.com/discus_e/messages/11/107616.jpg
> 
> As always, you may let me know what you think, if you're so inclined.
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> --
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
> 
> 


-- 
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog

Re: WTB Black MX

[Juan Buhler]

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:44:24 +, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I must admit to hording not one but two black MXs. 

I also have two black MXs! One semi-dead, seems to need a CLA to fix
what looks like sticky mirror. The other is very much alive and well
and is one of my two main film cameras (the other is the Leica). With
the istD, both the MX and the M6 have seen little use, though I would
not part with them now.

j


-- 
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog

Re: PESO: While the Dog Waited

[Peter J. Alling]

Everything is "French", or "Rich" roast, which makes it more difficult 
to tell when it's burned or old...

frank theriault wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:09:38 -0500, Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

Overroasted yes. Worst in the world? Hardly. If starbucks is the worst coffee
you ever had, you are incrediblely lucky. Try any convenience store at 4pm where
the pot has been sitting on the burner since 10.
   

Starbucks is pretty bad, made all the worse by the prices they charge,
and their snootiness ("the blend of the day is a Sumatran Arabica,
picked late in the season from the middle-third of the west side of
the mountain, where the late afternoon rays caress each bean... blah,
blah blah" - IT'S ALL CRAP!).
At 1/4 the price, I'll take the 7/11 stuff that's been sitting there
for 5 hours, thanks very much.
Seriously, Starbuck's problem seems to be that they always over-roast
their beans, so their coffee is always bitter.  You can take the best
beans in the world, and if you burn them, they'll taste bad.
cheers,
frank
 


--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

Re: WTB Black MX

[Peter J. Alling]

Yes, we taunt them to death, Frank might even taunt them using a silly 
Fraunch Auccont...

Cotty wrote:
On 18/1/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:
 

It happens so rarely, I don't see it as a problem.  Besides, if they
can figure out how to unsub, more power to them!  
   

True. The penalties of not unsubbing are too horrible to contemplate.

Cheers,
 Cotty
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--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

Re: Noisy *istD shutter

[Herb Chong]

time to get it checked, i think.
Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Nick Snowdon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: Noisy *istD shutter


It was at the end of a shoot but the batteries were in reasonably good 
condition. I have never had a camera failure in 20 years, so this is a 
little scary.

Funny thing is that I have a PZ1P and several process paid rolls of Velvia 
hanging around, but it is just not the same. My style has changed 
dramatically, and I really don't want to be without the camera.

Re: Noisy *istD shutter

[Nick Snowdon]

what was the condition of the batteries when this happened?
Herb...
It was at the end of a shoot but the batteries were in reasonably good 
condition. I have never had a camera failure in 20 years, so this is a 
little scary.

Funny thing is that I have a PZ1P and several process paid rolls of Velvia 
hanging around, but it is just not the same. My style has changed 
dramatically, and I really don't want to be without the camera.

Nick

Re: NLQ

[Doug Franklin]

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:34:00 -0500 (EST), D. Glenn Arthur Jr. wrote:

> The print head did not move -- it was a single row of pins that
> extended all the way across the page.  Something like 600 lines
> per minute, I think, but I may have misremembered.

Nope, there definitely were some of them that ran that fast.  Those
machines were _awesome_ (me being a geek and all).  Plus, they made
this really cool, high pitched *riiippp* sound as they
printed.  You expected the paper to turn to dust. :-)

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

RE: Noisy *istD shutter

[Rob Studdert]

On 18 Jan 2005 at 18:12, Don Sanderson wrote:

> The ist-D is going to live in infamy forever for it's
> battery glitches, now ain't it? ;-)

I'm pretty pleased with its battery performance however I don't have AF engaged 
very often. My biggest problem is with the fact that it forgets the last frame 
count when the batteries go flat with the camera switched on. This problem 
however could be corrected in a firmware update.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

Re: PESO: While the Dog Waited

[Bob W]

Hi,

Wednesday, January 19, 2005, 12:41:19 AM, pnstenquist wrote:

> Dark roast coffees have a strong flavor. It can grow on you, but
> at first blush it does taste bitter. If Starbucks' coffee was so
> awful, they wouldn't be selling so much of it. 

"Nobody ever lost money underestimating the taste of the American
public" H L Mencken

We can extend that to the UK and other countries as far as Starbucks
horrible coffee is concerned, which I think is bland.

It's an American peculiarity to equate high popularity with high
quality.

-- 
Cheers,
 Bob

Re: PESO: This might bring a smile

[Gonz]

So did you have to clean your pant leg after that?
The big dog is looking at the small one like "it smells like a dog, but 
what the h%ll is that?".

Great shot, made me LOL.
rg
William Robb wrote:
Or not.
We had a couple of friends over last night.
They brought one of their dogs.
Here is Rollei trying to figure out just exactly what it is.
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/peso/P0246small.html
William Robb

RE: flash for *ist D

[Don Sanderson]

Had to look it up at Adorama to see what it was,
cool!

Don

> -Original Message-
> From: Juan Buhler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 6:20 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: flash for *ist D
> 
> 
> I just ordered this, for use with my istD (although probably off
> camera, handheld and triggered by hand):
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/BACY0H/ref=pd_lu
> c_mri/103-6508350-3336639?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance
> 
> Should be fun...
> 
> j
> 
> 
> -- 
> Juan Buhler
> http://www.jbuhler.com
> blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog
> 

Re: iLife and Pentax Raw

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Cameras supported by iPhoto v5 RAW processing:
--
Canon
EOS-1D MARK II
1DS
EOS 20D
EOS 10D
EOS D60
EOS Digital Rebel
PowerShot Pro 1
PowerShot G5
PowerShot G6
--
Konica Minolta
DiMAGE A2
--
Nikon
D100
D2H
D70
Coolpix 8700
--
Olympus
C-8080 Wide Zoom
--
Sony
DSC-F828
-

It's a fairly limited list compared to Adobe Camera Raw or C1,
but not bad for a first release of RAW format processing.
Remember that RAW format conversion is unique for every camera,
it's not brand that matters.  I'm sure other makes and models
will be added incrementally. 

Godfrey




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Re: Noisy *istD shutter

[Luigi de Guzman]

On Tuesday 18 January 2005 19:12, Don Sanderson wrote:
> The ist-D is going to live in infamy forever for it's
> battery glitches, now ain't it? ;-)
>
Certainly more prone to them than my MX

-L

Re: PESO: While the Dog Waited

[pnstenquist]

Dark roast coffees have a strong flavor. It can grow on you, but at first blush 
it does taste bitter. If Starbucks' coffee was so awful, they wouldn't be 
selling so much of it. 


> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:09:38 -0500, Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Overroasted yes. Worst in the world? Hardly. If starbucks is the worst 
> > coffee
> > you ever had, you are incrediblely lucky. Try any convenience store at 4pm 
> where
> > the pot has been sitting on the burner since 10.
> > 
> >
> 
> Starbucks is pretty bad, made all the worse by the prices they charge,
> and their snootiness ("the blend of the day is a Sumatran Arabica,
> picked late in the season from the middle-third of the west side of
> the mountain, where the late afternoon rays caress each bean... blah,
> blah blah" - IT'S ALL CRAP!).
> 
> At 1/4 the price, I'll take the 7/11 stuff that's been sitting there
> for 5 hours, thanks very much.
> 
> Seriously, Starbuck's problem seems to be that they always over-roast
> their beans, so their coffee is always bitter.  You can take the best
> beans in the world, and if you burn them, they'll taste bad.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> -- 
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
> 

Re: PESO: While the Dog Waited

[Keith Whaley]

frank theriault wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:09:38 -0500, Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Overroasted yes. Worst in the world? Hardly. If starbucks is the worst coffee
you ever had, you are incrediblely lucky. Try any convenience store at 4pm where
the pot has been sitting on the burner since 10.
[...]
Seriously, Starbuck's problem seems to be that they always over-roast
their beans, so their coffee is always bitter.  You can take the best
beans in the world, and if you burn them, they'll taste bad.
cheers,
frank
Yup. Over-roasting is exactly the probem.
and all Starbucks seem to be the same!
Well, they would be, wouldn't they... It's the company warehouse that 
ships out the beans. The franchisee brews what he's sent!

keith

Re: PAW (PESO?): Street Festival, Little Italy

[Shel Belinkoff]

You did the right thing by leaving the shot as is.  Eating sandwiches,
snacks, and finger food is all part of a street festival.

Shel 


> [Original Message]
> From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Yeah, the guy munching one the sandwich (I keep telling myself it's an
> Italian Sandwich of some sort, in keeping with the festivities) is my
> least favourite part of the shot.  When I first looked at the little
> teeny contact, I hoped maybe he was taking his kid's photo, but one
> look through the loupe dashed that possibility.
>
> I thought about cropping out his head, then thought better of it, as
> it would have left a headless torso.  It would have also cut off the
> folks in the background, who are, I think, in important part of the
> image.
>
> So, I left sandwich dad in there, warts and all.  All part of the fun,
> I suppose.

Re: PESO: While the Dog Waited

[frank theriault]

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:09:38 -0500, Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Overroasted yes. Worst in the world? Hardly. If starbucks is the worst coffee
> you ever had, you are incrediblely lucky. Try any convenience store at 4pm 
> where
> the pot has been sitting on the burner since 10.
> 
>

Starbucks is pretty bad, made all the worse by the prices they charge,
and their snootiness ("the blend of the day is a Sumatran Arabica,
picked late in the season from the middle-third of the west side of
the mountain, where the late afternoon rays caress each bean... blah,
blah blah" - IT'S ALL CRAP!).

At 1/4 the price, I'll take the 7/11 stuff that's been sitting there
for 5 hours, thanks very much.

Seriously, Starbuck's problem seems to be that they always over-roast
their beans, so their coffee is always bitter.  You can take the best
beans in the world, and if you burn them, they'll taste bad.

cheers,
frank
-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: iLife and Pentax Raw

[Tim Sherburne]

Let'em know how disappointed you are at:



t

On 1/18/05 16:15, Illinois Bill wrote:

> Hey gang,
> 
>   The newest version of iLife for Apple just came out (no, I'm not
> looking for a flame war here).  One of the selling points of the
> software is that iPhoto will handle RAW files!  I thought WOW, that's
> great, I'll get the new version of iLife and start shooting more RAW's
> as the workload will be easier.
> 
>   There's a catch though.  They support all the major brands RAW files
> EXCEPT for one . . . which one?  Pentax!  Does anyone know why this is?
> Is Pentax disallowing others the ability to to incorporate support for
> RAW?  Was it an oversight? etc.
> 
> Insights appreciated.
> 
> IL Bill
> 
> 
> 

Re: flash for *ist D

[Juan Buhler]

I just ordered this, for use with my istD (although probably off
camera, handheld and triggered by hand):

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/BACY0H/ref=pd_luc_mri/103-6508350-3336639?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance

Should be fun...

j


-- 
Juan Buhler
http://www.jbuhler.com
blog at http://www.jbuhler.com/blog

Re: PAW (PESO?): Street Festival, Little Italy

[frank theriault]

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:59:15 -0800, Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That little girl was having herself a BALL!
> At first I thought the man standing on the side (Maple Leafs) was
> blowing up more baloons, but on blowing it up a little, I see him
> chewing on a burger - 'r something.  
> 
> Seems about everyone in the picture was in the process of moving
> somewhere. Most have lifted feet or bent legs...
> It's an energetic scene!
> 
> keith

Yeah, the guy munching one the sandwich (I keep telling myself it's an
Italian Sandwich of some sort, in keeping with the festivities) is my
least favourite part of the shot.  When I first looked at the little
teeny contact, I hoped maybe he was taking his kid's photo, but one
look through the loupe dashed that possibility.

I thought about cropping out his head, then thought better of it, as
it would have left a headless torso.  It would have also cut off the
folks in the background, who are, I think, in important part of the
image.

So, I left sandwich dad in there, warts and all.  All part of the fun,
I suppose.

Thanks for your thoughts, Keith (and Peter and Tom).  Glad you liked.

cheers,
frank
-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: Finally - enabled

[Hal & Sandra Davis]

You have a very nice body. Get the data back if you need it, or the ME2
winder(if you need it). This is a Pentax "keeper".
- Original Message - 
From: "Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 8:52 AM
Subject: Finally - enabled


> Hi,
> I just wanted to tell somebody... well, few hundred people are enough

> I've just took back my ME Super from the repair shop. It's cleaned
> mostly (but now the focusing screen is dirty , some foam goo
> managed to get there), foam replaced and it seems to work.
> Unfortunatelly that screen will have to remain dirty (well, it's only
> a corner, but still... ).
> I couldn't stop thinking how small it is... smaller than my MZ6+BG-FG;
> yet it feels good and it have a nice viewfinder. It looks nice paired
> with my FA 50mm f/1.7.
> I will try to shoot a roll those days... after I'll figure out how to
> load/unload it 
> Alex Sarbu
>
>

Re: WTB Black MX

[Cotty]

On 18/1/05, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

>It happens so rarely, I don't see it as a problem.  Besides, if they
>can figure out how to unsub, more power to them!  

True. The penalties of not unsubbing are too horrible to contemplate.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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iLife and Pentax Raw

[Illinois Bill]

Hey gang,
   The newest version of iLife for Apple just came out (no, I'm not 
looking for a flame war here).  One of the selling points of the 
software is that iPhoto will handle RAW files!  I thought WOW, that's 
great, I'll get the new version of iLife and start shooting more RAW's 
as the workload will be easier.

   There's a catch though.  They support all the major brands RAW files 
EXCEPT for one . . . which one?  Pentax!  Does anyone know why this is? 
 Is Pentax disallowing others the ability to to incorporate support for 
RAW?  Was it an oversight? etc.

Insights appreciated.
IL Bill

Re: WTB Black MX

[Graywolf]

LOL!
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---
frank theriault wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:46:28 -0500, Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You want folks who sub, list their stuff, and unsub? But then we let folks who
only post one-liners stay on the list (grin).

It happens so rarely, I don't see it as a problem.  Besides, if they
can figure out how to unsub, more power to them!  
-frank

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Re: PESO: While the Dog Waited

[Cotty]

On 18/1/05, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Cotty wrote:
>>When i'm working out of the Gloucester (pr. Gloss'tur) office, I
>>sometimes pop into the Starbucks with colleagues. Being a tea drinker,
>>for a change I have a coffee. Last time i was there i ordered the largets
>>one they do (what was it a grande??) and boy - all that caffeine - I
>>literally bounced down the street afterwards. I looked like a druggy a
>>couple of hours late!!
>>
>>Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.
>
>Boring.

May the sewers of Rangoon back up into your latte.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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RE: Noisy *istD shutter

[Don Sanderson]

The ist-D is going to live in infamy forever for it's
battery glitches, now ain't it? ;-)

Don

> -Original Message-
> From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 5:58 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: Noisy *istD shutter
>
>
> what was the condition of the batteries when this happened?
>
> Herb...
> - Original Message -
> From: "Nick Snowdon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 9:59 AM
> Subject: Noisy *istD shutter
>
>
> >I have had my *istD for about 10 months now and the other day
> the I got a
> >proverbial "funny" noise. It sounds like the shutter is making a rough
> >zip-like sound (though I suppose it could be the mirror). Exposure still
> >seems to be OK, but I don't feel comfortable about the
> mechanical stability
> >of the camera (quite apart from strange looks from people
> nearby). This is
> >no longer a stealth camera .
> >
> > Has anyone heard of this? Should I send it off to Pentax for
> repair? I am
> > in Vancouver, so I have to send it to Ottawa for repair - any
> thoughts on
> > packaging it safely?
>
>

Re: PESO: While the Dog Waited

[Graywolf]

Overroasted yes. Worst in the world? Hardly. If starbucks is the worst coffee 
you ever had, you are incrediblely lucky. Try any convenience store at 4pm where 
the pot has been sitting on the burner since 10.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message - From: "Albano Garcia" Subject: Re: PESO: 
While the Dog Waited


Do you u.s. americans take coffees that big?!??
Now I understand lots of things ;-)

We non u.s. Canadians take coffee that big as well.
Starbucks is pretty much the worst coffee in the world though.
William Robb


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RE: flash for *ist D

[Don Sanderson]

It's pretty well been agreed on that TTL flash works best
at ISO 400 on the D.
And even at that it tends to be inconsistent.
I have had much better luck with 'Auto' mode than TTL.
The 500FTZ does not have an 'Auto' mode, the 360FGZ does.
The 360 also has wireless flash capability, which is VERY cool!
Stick with the 360, or, save a bunch of bucks and go with a Vivitar
285HV, Sigma 500, or a similar unit, they're powerful and very reliable.
(Of course they don't have the cool features or 'sex appeal' of the
newer units.) ;-)

Don


> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Heim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 5:30 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: flash for *ist D
> 
> 
> What do tho think? I have an *istD and want to buy a (better) external
> flash. I've two Options:
> - To buy the AF 500 FTZ from a friend for 300 CHF (260$)
> - To buy the 360-Flash, thats recommended by Pentax.
>  
> I've tested the 500 and a saw a little misfunction. When i changed the
> ISO-Value from 200 up to another value, the image became lighter. Or to
> say: too light.
> That didn't happen with the - much weaker - internal flash of the
> camera. Do you think this would happen with the 360, too?
>  
> Michael
>  
> Michael Heim
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 078 615 19 88
> 061 271 66 48
> 

Re: PAW (PESO?): Street Festival, Little Italy

[Peter J. Alling]

Nice shot, well framed as well.
frank theriault wrote:
Grabbed this one last summer whilst walking about a street festival in
Toronto's Little Italy:
http://www.leica-camera.com/discus_e/messages/11/107616.jpg
As always, you may let me know what you think, if you're so inclined. 
Thanks in advance.

cheers,
frank
 


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and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
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Re: Pentax 1,000mm F8 K lens

[Herb Chong]

actually, i suspect that is the comparable quality to expect as well.
Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: "Henri Toivonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: Pentax 1,000mm F8 K lens


My guess is a buck for each mm (a general rule I've heard a few times)...
Andre
Wow, 28mm would make $28. Thats cheap!

Re: PAW: Puppy Parking

[Graywolf]

Nah, fuzz antidates hippies by decades. I had hear that it came from the stuff 
that collected on the dark blue wool uniforms they used to wear, and the fact 
that when you didn't want them around they collected around you like the fuzz 
did to their uniforms.

Somewhat like "cops". Supposedly from the english police signing their reports 
"COP"  for Constible On Patrol (but that is apparently a recent fabrication). 
Then there is the story that the early London police uniforms had copper 
buttons, hence "copper" and eventually shortened to "cop". Note that they more 
likely had brass buttons, easy enough to corrupt that to copper.

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---
mike wilson wrote:
frank theriault wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 21:56:48 -0500, Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

I guess that is because they no longer where wool uniforms. Since 
they now wear
polyester, should we call them pills?

Not that I want to hijack Paul's thread or anything, but is that why
cops were called Fuzz?
I could never figure that one out, because when I first heard the term
as a kid in the 60's, I always thought of it as a Hippy term.  I
always thought it ironic (except that I didn't know what irony was
back then), as it seemed to me that the Hippies were pretty fuzzy, but
the police didn't seem especially so...

I always took it to be derived from their very short (fuzzy) hair, 
compared to us cool types.  8-)



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Re: OT - Konicolta DSLR review posted

[Herb Chong]

two my good friends are Minolta shooters and it never was a question of 
whether, it was a question of when to buy. a third friend is trying to 
decide if she is over the threshold of too many lenses to switch from 
Minolta to Canon.

Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: OT - Konicolta DSLR review posted


If I owned a Minolta system and had been waiting for a DSLR (like many 
were for a Pentax), I would be laying the money down on the counter (like 
many did for a Pentax).  I hope it does well.

Re: flash for *ist D

[Peter J. Alling]

DamnifIknow.
Michael Heim wrote:
What do tho think? I have an *istD and want to buy a (better) external
flash. I've two Options:
- To buy the AF 500 FTZ from a friend for 300 CHF (260$)
- To buy the 360-Flash, thats recommended by Pentax.
I've tested the 500 and a saw a little misfunction. When i changed the
ISO-Value from 200 up to another value, the image became lighter. Or to
say: too light.
That didn't happen with the - much weaker - internal flash of the
camera. Do you think this would happen with the 360, too?
Michael
Michael Heim
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
078 615 19 88
061 271 66 48
 


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During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

Re: PAW (PESO?): Street Festival, Little Italy

[Keith Whaley]

That little girl was having herself a BALL!
At first I thought the man standing on the side (Maple Leafs) was 
blowing up more baloons, but on blowing it up a little, I see him 
chewing on a burger - 'r something.  

Seems about everyone in the picture was in the process of moving 
somewhere. Most have lifted feet or bent legs...
It's an energetic scene!

keith
frank theriault wrote:
Grabbed this one last summer whilst walking about a street festival in
Toronto's Little Italy:
http://www.leica-camera.com/discus_e/messages/11/107616.jpg
As always, you may let me know what you think, if you're so inclined. 
Thanks in advance.

cheers,
frank

Re: A couple of pictures

[frank theriault]

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:25:58 -0800, Powell Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Frank you mean those Westernish guys.  They're tough alright but us really
> Westerners are tough too.  It got down way too close to minus 10C a couple
> of days ago.  Thank god that's over and it's back up to plus 10 and raining
> - hard.
> 
> Powell on Vancouver Island

Powell,

You're not from the West.  You're On the Coast.  A Left-Coaster, if you will.

The West begins at the Ontario/Manitoba border, and ends at the
Alberta/BC border.



cheers,
frank


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Re: Noisy *istD shutter

[Herb Chong]

what was the condition of the batteries when this happened?
Herb...
- Original Message - 
From: "Nick Snowdon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 9:59 AM
Subject: Noisy *istD shutter


I have had my *istD for about 10 months now and the other day the I got a 
proverbial "funny" noise. It sounds like the shutter is making a rough 
zip-like sound (though I suppose it could be the mirror). Exposure still 
seems to be OK, but I don't feel comfortable about the mechanical stability 
of the camera (quite apart from strange looks from people nearby). This is 
no longer a stealth camera .

Has anyone heard of this? Should I send it off to Pentax for repair? I am 
in Vancouver, so I have to send it to Ottawa for repair - any thoughts on 
packaging it safely?

Re: Finally - enabled

[frank theriault]

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:52:33 +0200, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I just wanted to tell somebody... well, few hundred people are enough 
> I've just took back my ME Super from the repair shop. It's cleaned
> mostly (but now the focusing screen is dirty , some foam goo
> managed to get there), foam replaced and it seems to work.
> Unfortunatelly that screen will have to remain dirty (well, it's only
> a corner, but still... ).
> I couldn't stop thinking how small it is... smaller than my MZ6+BG-FG;
> yet it feels good and it have a nice viewfinder. It looks nice paired
> with my FA 50mm f/1.7.
> I will try to shoot a roll those days... after I'll figure out how to
> load/unload it 
> Alex Sarbu
> 

One of these days I have to get me an ME or ME Super.  They seem to be
going for a song and a dance right about now.  I love the size of the
M series bodies.

Glad you have yours back.  Have fun!!

cheers,
frank


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Re: WTB Black MX

[frank theriault]

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:46:28 -0500, Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You want folks who sub, list their stuff, and unsub? But then we let folks who
> only post one-liners stay on the list (grin).
>

It happens so rarely, I don't see it as a problem.  Besides, if they
can figure out how to unsub, more power to them!  

-frank

-- 
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Re: PAW (PESO?): Street Festival, Little Italy

[Graywolf]

I think the price of eggs is a little high, though not as high as they were this 
time last year.

Oh, I like the picture too.
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---
frank theriault wrote:
Grabbed this one last summer whilst walking about a street festival in
Toronto's Little Italy:
http://www.leica-camera.com/discus_e/messages/11/107616.jpg
As always, you may let me know what you think, if you're so inclined. 
Thanks in advance.

cheers,
frank

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Re: WTB Black MX

[Graywolf]

You want folks who sub, list their stuff, and unsub? But then we let folks who 
only post one-liners stay on the list (grin).

graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
"Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
---
Cotty wrote:
On 18/1/05, Graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed:

Regular 
list members only, please.

That's a bit exclusive isn't it Gw ?

Cheers,
  Cotty
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Re: PESO: This might bring a smile

[frank theriault]

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:23:45 -0600, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Or not.
> We had a couple of friends over last night.
> They brought one of their dogs.
> Here is Rollei trying to figure out just exactly what it is.
> 
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/peso/P0246small.html
> 
> 

You can just see the gears turning in Rollei's head:  "C'mon guys,
this thing ain't the same species as me, you're just pulling my leg,
aren't you?"

Wonderful shot;  I like it.

cheers,
frank

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Re: Semi-newbie question: MX or something else?

[Alan Chan]

--- Cerulean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Background info:  I got a non-functional black MX from
> an ex as a trade for my old barely-functional
> computer.  It came with three different lenses (don't
> have the info with me of what they are), plus misc
> filters, etc.  The camera is in desperate need of
> repair; the shutter release is stuck in the down
> position, the cloth itself looks like it's messed up,
> and the film advance won't advance.  

The MX is not a very complicated camera to repair. A very common problem with 
this
old camera is a long piece of metal arm (on the bottom of the camera) that 
clocks
the mirror assembly was distorted slightly due to age. This results in complete
lockup with the mirror in down position while the shutter is being clocked but
cannot fire. To see if this is the problem of your MX, just check if that metal 
arm
moves freely. If it doesn't, it is the source of problem. The solution is rather
simple. You only need to remove the bottom plate and get that piece of metal 
out,
then use a pair of pliers to bend it back "very" slightly, apply some grease 
and the
job is done. Unfortunately, I have not the MX anymore so I cannot show you 
anything
visually. However, if you can snap a good pic with the bottom plate removed, I 
might
be able to circle them out.

=
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan



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