Re: Stumped Over K10D
At 12:00 PM 3/08/2006, Rob Studdert wrote: On 03/08/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is all moot since there's no way my current budget allows for more equipment. However, I've been worried about increased noise at higher ISOs since it became apparent that the Pentax would be using the same sensor as the Nikon. What I really want is a 10-13MP sensor with a 1.3 crop vs the current 1.5 crop of the APS-C sensors. That would give about the same receptor density as the current sensor, which implies similar noise characteristics. Add shake reduction, a larger buffer, (allowing maybe 20-30 frames at 3-4 fps), add better weather sealing, and throw in an aperture simulator and I'll sell my mother to get one. I've got the money just sitting there waiting for this camera... For the camera as per Peter's spec's, or the upcoming 10MP body? For me, the buffer size is the spec I'm most interested in. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Stumped Over K10D
Op Thu, 03 Aug 2006 06:00:56 +0200 schreef Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 03/08/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is all moot since there's no way my current budget allows for more equipment. However, I've been worried about increased noise at higher ISOs since it became apparent that the Pentax would be using the same sensor as the Nikon. What I really want is a 10-13MP sensor with a 1.3 crop vs the current 1.5 crop of the APS-C sensors. That would give about the same receptor density as the current sensor, which implies similar noise characteristics. Add shake reduction, a larger buffer, (allowing maybe 20-30 frames at 3-4 fps), add better weather sealing, and throw in an aperture simulator and I'll sell my mother to get one. I've got the money just sitting there waiting for this camera... If I interpret the Babelfish translation of the press release at http://www.tokina.co.jp/news/4961607atx165news.html correctly, the Tokina versions of the new f/2.8 DA zooms are not compatible with the 1x and 1.3x Canon cameras. That would make a 1.3x Pentax camera in the near future unlikely... -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Photography = obstruction of justice?
I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. Patrick McGoohan in The Prisoner I don't mind being debriefed from time to time. Bob With your taste in shorts, I'm suprised it doesn't happen more often. Touché! B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PUG Gallery
Walter Hamler wrote: Thanks Mike. I am using the new Beta version of IE 8. Am beginning to believe it stinks! I'm using the beta of IE7. It has bugs in it. It's a beta. That's what you expect. When it's a release version you can complain about the bugs. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Stumped Over K10D
On 03/08/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the camera as per Peter's spec's, or the upcoming 10MP body? For me, the buffer size is the spec I'm most interested in. As per Peters spec. I already have a 6MP camera and the 10MP is still vapour. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Stumped Over K10D
On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, Digital Image Studio wrote: vapour. Welcome back Rob. :-))) Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Stumped Over K10D
From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] What are others on the list planning to do re: the K10D? Wait to see if Pentax has the nerve to introduce a K9. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - The Other Bridge
From: David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/08/03 Thu AM 05:18:05 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - The Other Bridge On Aug 3, 2006, at 4:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/other.htm A simple, slightly odd shot, but I sort of like it. I'm curious... why are the vertical wires blurred when everything else is sharp? Because they were the only things moving? - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Photography = obstruction of justice?
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/08/03 Thu AM 06:58:19 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Photography = obstruction of justice? I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. Patrick McGoohan in The Prisoner I don't mind being debriefed from time to time. Bob With your taste in shorts, I'm suprised it doesn't happen more often. Touché! 8-)) - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Re: Stumped Over K10D
Fra: Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 03/08/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the camera as per Peter's spec's, or the upcoming 10MP body? For me, the buffer size is the spec I'm most interested in. As per Peters spec. I already have a 6MP camera and the 10MP is still vapour. I thnk it is condensating fast now, at least according to the preliminary specs I saw a couple of weeks ago. Also, this should be the right camera to use to introduce the USM technology described the the patents I found last week... DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Stumped Over K10D
On Aug 2, 2006, at 11:00 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: It reads like a very intelligent test. The Nikon D200 and the Sony Alpha both get bad marks for noise. The K10D will apparently have the same sensor. My D2h is a lot worse than my D200, which i don't find bad for noise at all. If i have to shoot the D2H over 320 iso, under cloudy skies, its bad. You notice it in the riders face. I have not noticed as that bad on the D200. At Xmas time i took a few indoor baby shots under florecent light at iso 800 and printed an 8x10 for the Mom. It ;looked very good, but then again at iso 1600 in the arena under extremly poor light, it was noticable. But i bet any camera would have been bad with that light. My istD is good for noise. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Stumped Over K10D
Digital Image Studio wrote: I've got the money just sitting there waiting for this camera... Same here. I'll order it the minute it appears on the BH web page. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Stumped Over K10D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 2, 2006, at 11:00 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: It reads like a very intelligent test. The Nikon D200 and the Sony Alpha both get bad marks for noise. The K10D will apparently have the same sensor. My D2h is a lot worse than my D200, which i don't find bad for noise at all. If i have to shoot the D2H over 320 iso, under cloudy skies, its bad. You notice it in the riders face. I have not noticed as that bad on the D200. At Xmas time i took a few indoor baby shots under florecent light at iso 800 and printed an 8x10 for the Mom. It ;looked very good, but then again at iso 1600 in the arena under extremly poor light, it was noticable. But i bet any camera would have been bad with that light. My istD is good for noise. Dave According to tests, all the Pentax bodies have poor noise performance, but the comparison is against bodies like the 200D and D50 which are essentially noise-free below 1600 and extremely clean at 1600+, not film which is grainier than any reasonably current 1.5x sensor camera at a given ISO. In the real world, they're good but not stellar. I don't expect the 10MP body to be noticably worse for noise than the 6MP bodies, but I wouldn't expect much better either. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Stumped Over K10D
mike wilson wrote: Wait to see if Pentax has the nerve to introduce a K9. That would be a real dog. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Stumped Over K10D
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/08/03 Thu PM 01:00:36 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Stumped Over K10D mike wilson wrote: Wait to see if Pentax has the nerve to introduce a K9. That would be a real dog. The bow-wow DSLR. Plenty of those already, I think. At least it won't be responsible for something like this. http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/08/02/britain.elvisbear.ap/index.html - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Stumped Over K10D
Joseph wrote: SR may give us 2, 2.5, or 3 stops extra speed. But we would lose at least one of those stops to noise. (If you shot satisfactorily at ISO 1600 before, with the K10D you may need to limit yourself to ISO 800.) I often shoot in low light, and am concerned about this noise issue. REPLY: Huh?? I've been stucked at 50ISO the last 15 years (Velvia). To me it is a non-issue. Resolution will be however. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Stumped Over K10D
As will I. -- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Digital Image Studio wrote: I've got the money just sitting there waiting for this camera... Same here. I'll order it the minute it appears on the BH web page. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Stumped Over K10D
mike wilson wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike wilson wrote: Wait to see if Pentax has the nerve to introduce a K9. That would be a real dog. The bow-wow DSLR. We've been waiting a long time for it. I hope Pentax decides to throw us a bone soon. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Stumped Over K10D
- Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: Stumped Over K10D http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/08/02/britain.elvisbear.ap/index.html Thats hilarious. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Stumped Over K10D
Since the *istD is capable of making 13 x 19 prints that are more than adequate for gallery shows, I have no concerns whatsoever in regard to resolution. Paul -- Original message -- From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joseph wrote: SR may give us 2, 2.5, or 3 stops extra speed. But we would lose at least one of those stops to noise. (If you shot satisfactorily at ISO 1600 before, with the K10D you may need to limit yourself to ISO 800.) I often shoot in low light, and am concerned about this noise issue. REPLY: Huh?? I've been stucked at 50ISO the last 15 years (Velvia). To me it is a non-issue. Resolution will be however. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Stumped Over K10D
My understanding is that noise has as much to do with the firmware as with the sensor. The Sony sensor in the ist D series is in a bunch of other cameras, and test reports have a wide range of reported noise levels. Rick --- Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found this over at dpreview: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=19440192 It reads like a very intelligent test. The Nikon D200 and the Sony Alpha both get bad marks for noise. The K10D will apparently have the same sensor. SR may give us 2, 2.5, or 3 stops extra speed. But we would lose at least one of those stops to noise. (If you shot satisfactorily at ISO 1600 before, with the K10D you may need to limit yourself to ISO 800.) I often shoot in low light, and am concerned about this noise issue. I don't want to have to buy the K100D to get shake reduction. It doesn't have the features I need. What are others on the list planning to do re: the K10D? And why? Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Stumped Over K10D
I've heard that it won't come with a neck strap, but a leash will be standard equipment. Paul -- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike wilson wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike wilson wrote: Wait to see if Pentax has the nerve to introduce a K9. That would be a real dog. The bow-wow DSLR. We've been waiting a long time for it. I hope Pentax decides to throw us a bone soon. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
...Portfolio...
I'm about to create a portfolio of my images over at Photo.net (in case anyone is interested)... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Stumped Over K10D
How the test is conducted can have a LOT to do with the results. Even a slight underexposure increases noise levels a large amount. Paul -- Original message -- From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] My understanding is that noise has as much to do with the firmware as with the sensor. The Sony sensor in the ist D series is in a bunch of other cameras, and test reports have a wide range of reported noise levels. Rick --- Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found this over at dpreview: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=19440192 It reads like a very intelligent test. The Nikon D200 and the Sony Alpha both get bad marks for noise. The K10D will apparently have the same sensor. SR may give us 2, 2.5, or 3 stops extra speed. But we would lose at least one of those stops to noise. (If you shot satisfactorily at ISO 1600 before, with the K10D you may need to limit yourself to ISO 800.) I often shoot in low light, and am concerned about this noise issue. I don't want to have to buy the K100D to get shake reduction. It doesn't have the features I need. What are others on the list planning to do re: the K10D? And why? Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - The Other Bridge
In a message dated 8/2/2006 10:21:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm curious... why are the vertical wires blurred when everything else is sharp? - Dave == P.S. Also I was moving. On a ferry, fairly quickly. So the movement of the ferry and the suspension wires didn't match. Basically. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - The Other Bridge
In a message dated 8/2/2006 10:21:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Aug 3, 2006, at 4:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/other.htm A simple, slightly odd shot, but I sort of like it. I'm curious... why are the vertical wires blurred when everything else is sharp? - Dave === They were moving. In a suspension bridge, the suspension wires move a little bit all the time. Even though it was probably shot with a fairly quick shutter speed (I used AV so I cannot say off hand what it was), it was probably not fast enough to capture no movement at all. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Stumped Over K10D
This is driving me barking mad! Don Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike wilson wrote: Wait to see if Pentax has the nerve to introduce a K9. That would be a real dog. The bow-wow DSLR. We've been waiting a long time for it. I hope Pentax decides to throw us a bone soon. -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Stumped Over K10D
This was talked about , on the Nikon D1 BB, when people started aquiring their 10mp Nikons, D2X and D200, was that camera shake became more noticable with the jump from 4-10 mp. Its not an issue they say if the old shutter rule is applied( keep shutter at least to lens focal lenght) and or VR lenses used. I have noticed nothing out of the ordinary going from 4-10mp but i tend to use the VR on the 70-200 a lot, and high shutter, so maybe thats why. Just something to keep in mind with the K10D unless you have investigated this already. Is the K10D equiped with the IS sensor to, or just the K100D and K110D. Dave Quoting Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 2, 2006, at 11:00 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: It reads like a very intelligent test. The Nikon D200 and the Sony Alpha both get bad marks for noise. The K10D will apparently have the same sensor. My D2h is a lot worse than my D200, which i don't find bad for noise at all. If i have to shoot the D2H over 320 iso, under cloudy skies, its bad. You notice it in the riders face. I have not noticed as that bad on the D200. At Xmas time i took a few indoor baby shots under florecent light at iso 800 and printed an 8x10 for the Mom. It ;looked very good, but then again at iso 1600 in the arena under extremly poor light, it was noticable. But i bet any camera would have been bad with that light. My istD is good for noise. Dave According to tests, all the Pentax bodies have poor noise performance, but the comparison is against bodies like the 200D and D50 which are essentially noise-free below 1600 and extremely clean at 1600+, not film which is grainier than any reasonably current 1.5x sensor camera at a given ISO. In the real world, they're good but not stellar. I don't expect the 10MP body to be noticably worse for noise than the 6MP bodies, but I wouldn't expect much better either. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Stumped Over K10D
If its going to be the same size as the pro Nikon bodies, D2X etc, you;ll need more than a leash to old on to it. I use a wheel barrel and pry bar to help with neck fatique. :-) Dave Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've heard that it won't come with a neck strap, but a leash will be standard equipment. Paul -- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike wilson wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike wilson wrote: Wait to see if Pentax has the nerve to introduce a K9. That would be a real dog. The bow-wow DSLR. We've been waiting a long time for it. I hope Pentax decides to throw us a bone soon. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Pass Road
Missed this i quess. Great shot Jack. Love the black sky against the clouds Very good conversion if indeed it was. Dave Quoting Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It was bound to happen again..just a matter of a short time. AAA!! http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=152 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Some images...
I've put up about 20 images as a portfolio at Photo.net. Almost all of them are taken a few km from home, which is in Northern Norway. Most are taken at night! the link: http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=266609 Any coments are welcomed. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ...Portfolio...
From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/08/03 Thu PM 01:52:09 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: ...Portfolio... I'm about to create a portfolio of my images over at Photo.net (in case anyone is interested)... Go on, then. URL? - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Pond
One of several beaver ponds in the park near my home. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/5, Handheld ISO 200, 1/125 sec @ f/6.7 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3263.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce = Nice shot, Bruce. If it were me I'd probably crop a tad at the bottom to get rid of the OFF clump at the base of the grass sticking up. Not get rid of it all by any means, just a tad. Untrammeled nature. Always enjoyable to look at. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Stumped Over K10D
The widely varying performance is because some testers don't realize that the D70 and D50 use different but related sensors. The D100, *ists and KM bodies are all fairly similar in noise performance (and use the same sensor), the D70 is better but not massively so and the D50 is better to much better than the D70 (better in RAW, much better in JPEG). -Adam Rick Womer wrote: My understanding is that noise has as much to do with the firmware as with the sensor. The Sony sensor in the ist D series is in a bunch of other cameras, and test reports have a wide range of reported noise levels. Rick --- Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found this over at dpreview: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=19440192 It reads like a very intelligent test. The Nikon D200 and the Sony Alpha both get bad marks for noise. The K10D will apparently have the same sensor. SR may give us 2, 2.5, or 3 stops extra speed. But we would lose at least one of those stops to noise. (If you shot satisfactorily at ISO 1600 before, with the K10D you may need to limit yourself to ISO 800.) I often shoot in low light, and am concerned about this noise issue. I don't want to have to buy the K100D to get shake reduction. It doesn't have the features I need. What are others on the list planning to do re: the K10D? And why? Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Stumped Over K10D
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/08/03 Thu PM 01:44:00 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Stumped Over K10D mike wilson wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike wilson wrote: Wait to see if Pentax has the nerve to introduce a K9. That would be a real dog. The bow-wow DSLR. We've been waiting a long time for it. I hope Pentax decides to throw us a bone soon. Pentax products always have a long lead time. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Bandera Monumental
In a message dated 8/1/2006 12:24:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is a large flag: http://www.avocadohead.com/mexlinks/pic01.html i have not 'done' anything to the picture yet, it could be made brighter, but it was shot at dusk, so for now it is what it is, but what do you think? unfortunately, that photo does not give a very good idea of the scale, so for that you must look here (and yes, that's a bird): http://www.avocadohead.com/mexlinks/pic05.html and you can read all about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banderas_monumentales and as the saying goes honest and brutal russell Like it. I think I would have framed it with a tad more on the bottom though, a tad less at the top. The people look a little too chopped off, a bit more of a base to appear to support them would be better, IMHO. But it's a nice shot. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Stumped Over K10D
From: Don Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/08/03 Thu PM 02:03:56 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Stumped Over K10D This is driving me barking mad! Don Better hide the teddy bears. Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike wilson wrote: Wait to see if Pentax has the nerve to introduce a K9. That would be a real dog. The bow-wow DSLR. We've been waiting a long time for it. I hope Pentax decides to throw us a bone soon. -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA ? Finland - +358400706616 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some images...
From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/08/03 Thu PM 02:20:28 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Some images... I've put up about 20 images as a portfolio at Photo.net. Almost all of them are taken a few km from home, which is in Northern Norway. Most are taken at night! the link: http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=266609 Very unusual and interesting images. Are the landscape colours really that bright? m - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some images...
On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, P?l Jensen wrote: I've put up about 20 images as a portfolio at Photo.net. Almost all of them are taken a few km from home, which is in Northern Norway. Most are taken at night! the link: http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=266609 Any coments are welcomed. Thanks for sharing Paal, some very nice pictures, I thought. It's difficult to comment on all, so here are some: - http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4760513 not sure the eyes are in focus, but I like the pose and the environment. - http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4760552 I like the composition and the colours, but I am not sure about the horizon. - http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4760578 probably my favourite. - http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4760548 Can I hijack this to ask a q: I have tried to photograph our (west-facing) house, complete with flowering rose, just after sunset. I have found that the flowers get the same lack of detail as yours in this picture and also in http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4760531. I think it spoils your pictures, but is it a feature of the light we are using? Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some images...
- Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the comments - http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4760552 I like the composition and the colours, but I am not sure about the horizon. The tilting horizon is due to the fact that after half an hour trying to get the film straight in the film holder, I gave up! It is straight on the film as I use a bubble level. There are probably several more images where the horizon appears tilted due to the same reason. - http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4760548 Can I hijack this to ask a q: I have tried to photograph our (west-facing) house, complete with flowering rose, just after sunset. I have found that the flowers get the same lack of detail as yours in this picture and also in http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4760531. I think it spoils your pictures, but is it a feature of the light we are using? No. It is the scan, or more correctly, it is lost in the downsizing of the images. Theres no lack of detail in the original MF transparency. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some images...
- Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Very unusual and interesting images. Are the landscape colours really that bright? m Thanks. It is Velvia after all, but apart from that, the light and colors here are really bright. Particularly the greens as it rains a lot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photography = obstruction of justice?
Let's throw in Freedom Fighter somewhere as well... Norm From: P. J. Alling No, like all good libertarians we call those who overreach their authority stateists. Those who finally rebel are called rebels. Terrorists are a different kettle of fish entirely. William Robb wrote: From: P. J. Alling Who says we tolerate it. When the cops do something like this you contact a lawyer and the local press. Freedom needs to be defended everywhere, but it needs to be defended. If it isn't, eventually you have to use force... We call those people terrorists. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some images...
Gorgeous, every single one of them. My favourite has to be the last one of the aurora. Love the red fox too. Wendy On 8/3/06, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've put up about 20 images as a portfolio at Photo.net. Almost all of them are taken a few km from home, which is in Northern Norway. Most are taken at night! the link: http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=266609 -- Wendy Beard Ottawa Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some images...
- Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Very unusual and interesting images. Are the landscape colours really that bright? Some more comments on this. Many react on this image in particular: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4760569 But the color is very real. At this time of the year (November), the sun barely rise above the horizon and we get blood red sunset the whole day. This was shot on one of the last days the sun was up at all (it stays below the horizon for over a month during midvinter and we only get twilight in the middle of the day). The landscape is lit by a blood red sun to the right in the picture coloring everything red. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some images...
Pål Jensen wrote: I've put up about 20 images as a portfolio at Photo.net. Almost all of them are taken a few km from home, which is in Northern Norway. Most are taken at night! the link: http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=266609 Thanks for sharing your portfolio, Pål. It's awesome. I am envious of the landscape you have where you live. Some of the photos are breathtaking. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some images...
On 04/08/06, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've put up about 20 images as a portfolio at Photo.net. Almost all of them are taken a few km from home, which is in Northern Norway. Most are taken at night! the link: http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=266609 Any coments are welcomed. It's taken a long time but was well worth the wait. When is the calendar coming out? :-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some images...
Stunning work, Pål. Beautiful, well composed, nicely rendered. If I lived there, I'd be shooting Velvia as well! Great stuff. Thanks for sharing. Paul -- Original message -- From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've put up about 20 images as a portfolio at Photo.net. Almost all of them are taken a few km from home, which is in Northern Norway. Most are taken at night! the link: http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=266609 Any coments are welcomed. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some images...
Exceptional work Pål. Beautiful midnight light in your part of the country. Makes you realizethat even though you are blessed with magnificent scenic locations close to home, you still have to go out and capture them. Youstill have to make the effort... Show us more.. vic. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Some images... Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 14:57:05 + Stunning work, Pål. Beautiful, well composed, nicely rendered. If I lived there, I'd be shooting Velvia as well! Great stuff. Thanks for sharing. Paul -- Original message -- From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've put up about 20 images as a portfolio at Photo.net. Almost all of them are taken a few km from home, which is in Northern Norway. Most are taken at night! the link: http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=266609 Any coments are welcomed. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some images...
On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, P?l Jensen wrote: - Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4760548 Can I hijack this to ask a q: I have tried to photograph our (west-facing) house, complete with flowering rose, just after sunset. I have found that the flowers get the same lack of detail as yours in this picture and also in http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4760531. I think it spoils your pictures, but is it a feature of the light we are using? No. It is the scan, or more correctly, it is lost in the downsizing of the images. Theres no lack of detail in the original MF transparency. Aha! thanks for this Paal. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some images...
On 3/8/06, Pål Jensen, discombobulated, unleashed: I've put up about 20 images as a portfolio at Photo.net. Almost all of them are taken a few km from home, which is in Northern Norway. Most are taken at night! the link: http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=266609 Any coments are welcomed. Wonderful photographs. Just a beautiful collection really, can't fault them. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Stumped Over K10D
The K10D (or whatever the heck Pentax will be calling it), is reputed to have the Anti Shake system, the K110 does not. David J Brooks wrote: This was talked about , on the Nikon D1 BB, when people started aquiring their 10mp Nikons, D2X and D200, was that camera shake became more noticable with the jump from 4-10 mp. Its not an issue they say if the old shutter rule is applied( keep shutter at least to lens focal lenght) and or VR lenses used. I have noticed nothing out of the ordinary going from 4-10mp but i tend to use the VR on the 70-200 a lot, and high shutter, so maybe thats why. Just something to keep in mind with the K10D unless you have investigated this already. Is the K10D equiped with the IS sensor to, or just the K100D and K110D. Dave Quoting Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 2, 2006, at 11:00 PM, Joseph Tainter wrote: It reads like a very intelligent test. The Nikon D200 and the Sony Alpha both get bad marks for noise. The K10D will apparently have the same sensor. My D2h is a lot worse than my D200, which i don't find bad for noise at all. If i have to shoot the D2H over 320 iso, under cloudy skies, its bad. You notice it in the riders face. I have not noticed as that bad on the D200. At Xmas time i took a few indoor baby shots under florecent light at iso 800 and printed an 8x10 for the Mom. It ;looked very good, but then again at iso 1600 in the arena under extremly poor light, it was noticable. But i bet any camera would have been bad with that light. My istD is good for noise. Dave According to tests, all the Pentax bodies have poor noise performance, but the comparison is against bodies like the 200D and D50 which are essentially noise-free below 1600 and extremely clean at 1600+, not film which is grainier than any reasonably current 1.5x sensor camera at a given ISO. In the real world, they're good but not stellar. I don't expect the 10MP body to be noticably worse for noise than the 6MP bodies, but I wouldn't expect much better either. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photography = obstruction of justice?
I always thought a Freedom Fighter fought for freedom, many given that label seem to fight against it. Norman Baugher wrote: Let's throw in Freedom Fighter somewhere as well... Norm From: P. J. Alling No, like all good libertarians we call those who overreach their authority stateists. Those who finally rebel are called rebels. Terrorists are a different kettle of fish entirely. William Robb wrote: From: P. J. Alling Who says we tolerate it. When the cops do something like this you contact a lawyer and the local press. Freedom needs to be defended everywhere, but it needs to be defended. If it isn't, eventually you have to use force... We call those people terrorists. -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photography = obstruction of justice?
It's the freedom to enslave others... Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. Patrick McGoohan in The Prisoner From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Photography = obstruction of justice? Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:36:22 -0400 I always thought a Freedom Fighter fought for freedom, many given that label seem to fight against it. Norman Baugher wrote: Let's throw in Freedom Fighter somewhere as well... Norm From: P. J. Alling No, like all good libertarians we call those who overreach their authority stateists. Those who finally rebel are called rebels. Terrorists are a different kettle of fish entirely. William Robb wrote: From: P. J. Alling Who says we tolerate it. When the cops do something like this you contact a lawyer and the local press. Freedom needs to be defended everywhere, but it needs to be defended. If it isn't, eventually you have to use force... We call those people terrorists. -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some images...
Finally some shot's from Pål, I was afraid that I'd be disappointed, but these are very, very, very, good. In spite of being shot on Velva. Pål Jensen wrote: I've put up about 20 images as a portfolio at Photo.net. Almost all of them are taken a few km from home, which is in Northern Norway. Most are taken at night! the link: http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=266609 Any coments are welcomed. Pål -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some images...
Pål Jensen wrote: I've put up about 20 images as a portfolio at Photo.net. Almost all of them are taken a few km from home, which is in Northern Norway. Most are taken at night! the link: http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=266609 Any coments are welcomed. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Pal - what a lovely gallery! the link to one of the larger ones was broken - I'll have to view larger ones later but the thumbnails with my screen settings are enough to get the feeling of them. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some images...
Pål Jensen wrote: - Original Message - From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the comments - http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4760552 I like the composition and the colours, but I am not sure about the horizon. The tilting horizon is due to the fact that after half an hour trying to get the film straight in the film holder, I gave up! It is straight on the film as I use a bubble level. There are probably several more images where the horizon appears tilted due to the same reason. You can fix that tilting pretty easily in Photoshop... since the photo itself is not tilted it won't be distorted. I do this sort of thing by making the canvas larger than the scanned image and then rotating 1 degree or 2 at a time until the image is straight. On the thunbmnails I didnt notice any distortion but then I have an astigmatism :) ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Pond - round 2
I went back this morning to see if I could improve the shot a bit. Slightly different lighting and more DOF. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4 @ 28mm, handheld ISO 400, 1/60 sec @ f/11 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3279.htm Original shot: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3263.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some images...
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:20:28 +0200, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've put up about 20 images as a portfolio at Photo.net. Almost all of them are taken a few km from home, which is in Northern Norway. Most are taken at night! the link: http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=266609 Any coments are welcomed. Just gorgeous. I particularly like http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4760552 and http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4760515... -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Pond - round 2
Bruce Dayton wrote: I went back this morning to see if I could improve the shot a bit. Slightly different lighting and more DOF. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4 @ 28mm, handheld ISO 400, 1/60 sec @ f/11 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3279.htm Wow! A dead still day, water like a mirror. Plenty of DOF in this image. I like it! keith whaley Original shot: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3263.htm Comments welcome -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Pond - round 2
Much less harsh. I like the new version much better. Bruce Dayton wrote: I went back this morning to see if I could improve the shot a bit. Slightly different lighting and more DOF. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4 @ 28mm, handheld ISO 400, 1/60 sec @ f/11 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3279.htm Original shot: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3263.htm Comments welcome -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some images...
No favorites here Pal. They are all supurb. Lovely light and colour. Dave B I've put up about 20 images as a portfolio at Photo.net. Almost all of them are taken a few km from home, which is in Northern Norway. Most are taken at night! the link: http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=266609 Any coments are welcomed. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
[Off Topic] HEAT [WAS:Re: Some images...]
Ann! How are you faring in the oppressive heat in NYC? I'll bet you turn on the A/C *this* time ~ if there's power, that is... Be well! keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Pass Road
Thanks, David! T-Max 100. Dark red filter stacked with Cokin gray grad filter to further darken sky. Jack --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Missed this i quess. Great shot Jack. Love the black sky against the clouds Very good conversion if indeed it was. Dave Quoting Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It was bound to happen again..just a matter of a short time. AAA!! http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=152 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Stumped Over K10D
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Stumped Over K10D mike wilson wrote: From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] mike wilson wrote: Wait to see if Pentax has the nerve to introduce a K9. That would be a real dog. The bow-wow DSLR. We've been waiting a long time for it. I hope Pentax decides to throw us a bone soon. Sounds like you may be barking up the wrong tree. Kenneth Waller -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Stumped Over K10D
From: Mark Roberts mike wilson wrote: Wait to see if Pentax has the nerve to introduce a K9. That would be a real dog. Noise level would be way to high... Norm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some images...
Awesome portfolio Pal ! Some extraordinary images. The light, is for the most part, fantastic. Couldn't pick a favorite. Thanks for posting. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Some images... I've put up about 20 images as a portfolio at Photo.net. Almost all of them are taken a few km from home, which is in Northern Norway. Most are taken at night! the link: http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=266609 Any coments are welcomed. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Pond - round 2
Greater DOF and somewhat lighter exposure create an overall substantially improved image. Jack --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went back this morning to see if I could improve the shot a bit. Slightly different lighting and more DOF. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4 @ 28mm, handheld ISO 400, 1/60 sec @ f/11 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3279.htm Original shot: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3263.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some images...
Beautiful array of nicely composed images. Somewhat artificial, extreme saturation. Velvia? Jack --- Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've put up about 20 images as a portfolio at Photo.net. Almost all of them are taken a few km from home, which is in Northern Norway. Most are taken at night! the link: http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=266609 Any coments are welcomed. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Pond - round 2
I like this better. It's more about the branches, with less distraction. Still not among your best, IMHO, which means that it's still very good. Rick --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went back this morning to see if I could improve the shot a bit. Slightly different lighting and more DOF. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4 @ 28mm, handheld ISO 400, 1/60 sec @ f/11 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3279.htm Original shot: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3263.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Stumped Over K10D
Wait to see if Pentax has the nerve to introduce a K9. That would be a real dog. The bow-wow DSLR. Plenty of those already, I think. At least it won't be responsible for something like this. http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/08/02/britain.elvisbear. ap/index.html I'll bet the hound-dog was singing to itself as it chomped away: I just wanna eat your te-e-ddy bear Nice bit of understatement from that story: I've spoken to the bear's owner and he is not very pleased at all, Medley said. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Some images...
Very spectacular! I don't remember ever seeing anything you've posted before, so I'm glad to see these. I can see exactly why you've recommended Galen Rowell so many times - they are very good examples of his 'school', so to speak. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pål Jensen Sent: 03 August 2006 15:20 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Some images... I've put up about 20 images as a portfolio at Photo.net. Almost all of them are taken a few km from home, which is in Northern Norway. Most are taken at night! the link: http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=266609 Any coments are welcomed. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Pond - round 2
A definite improvement - not that the original was bad. Looks like better light, improved composition * DOF. Now about that beaver... I hope you marked the tripod feet holes ! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Pond - round 2 I went back this morning to see if I could improve the shot a bit. Slightly different lighting and more DOF. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4 @ 28mm, handheld ISO 400, 1/60 sec @ f/11 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3279.htm Original shot: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3263.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Pond - round 2
Definitely like #2 the best. More DOF with the grasses in the foreground sharper. Also nicer light on the foreground grasses, and I like the inclusion of the algae on the pond at the lower left. -P Bruce Dayton wrote: I went back this morning to see if I could improve the shot a bit. Slightly different lighting and more DOF. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4 @ 28mm, handheld ISO 400, 1/60 sec @ f/11 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3279.htm Original shot: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3263.htm Comments welcome -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Bandera Monumental
Like it. thanks I think I would have framed it with a tad more on the bottom though, a tad less at the top. The people look a little too chopped off, a bit more of a base to appear to support them would be better, IMHO. yeah this was one of those situations where you take several carefully framed shots, and then at the last minute you say 'What the heck! and take one more, and that one ends up better than the others. oh well. as I am getting more experience, I am learning (and re-learning) the value of planning the shots you want. thanks for the comments russell -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Photography = obstruction of justice?
Depends whose freedom you're talking about. I always thought a Freedom Fighter fought for freedom, many given that label seem to fight against it. Norman Baugher wrote: Let's throw in Freedom Fighter somewhere as well... Norm From: P. J. Alling No, like all good libertarians we call those who overreach their authority stateists. Those who finally rebel are called rebels. Terrorists are a different kettle of fish entirely. William Robb wrote: From: P. J. Alling Who says we tolerate it. When the cops do something like this you contact a lawyer and the local press. Freedom needs to be defended everywhere, but it needs to be defended. If it isn't, eventually you have to use force... We call those people terrorists. -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photography = obstruction of justice?
From some discussions last week I think some have the freedom to scare others. The land of the free becomes the land of the scared... DagT Den 3. aug. 2006 kl. 18.28 skrev Tom C: It's the freedom to enslave others... Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. Patrick McGoohan in The Prisoner From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Photography = obstruction of justice? Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:36:22 -0400 I always thought a Freedom Fighter fought for freedom, many given that label seem to fight against it. Norman Baugher wrote: Let's throw in Freedom Fighter somewhere as well... Norm From: P. J. Alling No, like all good libertarians we call those who overreach their authority stateists. Those who finally rebel are called rebels. Terrorists are a different kettle of fish entirely. William Robb wrote: From: P. J. Alling Who says we tolerate it. When the cops do something like this you contact a lawyer and the local press. Freedom needs to be defended everywhere, but it needs to be defended. If it isn't, eventually you have to use force... We call those people terrorists. -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net DagT http://dag.foto.no Beware of internet links. You never know what is on the other side. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Pond - round 2
In a message dated 8/3/2006 10:26:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I went back this morning to see if I could improve the shot a bit. Slightly different lighting and more DOF. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4 @ 28mm, handheld ISO 400, 1/60 sec @ f/11 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3279.htm Original shot: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3263.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce Yes. The lighting is much better, softer, not so harsh. Yup, I like it better. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some images...
Nice... But velvia never did have anything to do with reality anyway .-) DagT Den 3. aug. 2006 kl. 16.20 skrev Pål Jensen: I've put up about 20 images as a portfolio at Photo.net. Almost all of them are taken a few km from home, which is in Northern Norway. Most are taken at night! the link: http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=266609 Any coments are welcomed. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net DagT http://dag.foto.no Beware of internet links. You never know what is on the other side. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Pass Road
I thought it might be. One of the fellows that has taken the high school darkroom class with me(about 6 times now) uses a #25 and polerizer, and gets the same effect. He shoots Tmax aswell Dave Quoting Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks, David! T-Max 100. Dark red filter stacked with Cokin gray grad filter to further darken sky. Jack --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Missed this i quess. Great shot Jack. Love the black sky against the clouds Very good conversion if indeed it was. Dave Quoting Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It was bound to happen again..just a matter of a short time. AAA!! http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=152 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some images...
In a message dated 8/3/2006 7:34:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=266609 Any coments are welcomed. Pål Wow! That's all I can say is, wow!, Pal. I can tell you are fan of Galen Rowell. (If my memory serves, you are.) IMHO, some of these are just as good as his. I hope that is high praise. Marnie aka Doe ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photography = obstruction of justice?
Freedom is always a relative term, as there is no such thing as 'absolute freedom'. Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Photography = obstruction of justice? Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:55:06 +0200 From some discussions last week I think some have the freedom to scare others. The land of the free becomes the land of the scared... DagT Den 3. aug. 2006 kl. 18.28 skrev Tom C: It's the freedom to enslave others... Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. Patrick McGoohan in The Prisoner From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Photography = obstruction of justice? Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:36:22 -0400 I always thought a Freedom Fighter fought for freedom, many given that label seem to fight against it. Norman Baugher wrote: Let's throw in Freedom Fighter somewhere as well... Norm From: P. J. Alling No, like all good libertarians we call those who overreach their authority stateists. Those who finally rebel are called rebels. Terrorists are a different kettle of fish entirely. William Robb wrote: From: P. J. Alling Who says we tolerate it. When the cops do something like this you contact a lawyer and the local press. Freedom needs to be defended everywhere, but it needs to be defended. If it isn't, eventually you have to use force... We call those people terrorists. -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net DagT http://dag.foto.no Beware of internet links. You never know what is on the other side. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some images...
Hello Pål, Some very excellent images! The only problem with a gallery is how much time it takes to comment on each photo. So suffice it to say the landscapes are outstanding. The animals are good, but not quite up to the landscapes. I'm very glad that you shared these with us. -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, August 3, 2006, 7:20:28 AM, you wrote: PJ I've put up about 20 images as a portfolio at Photo.net. PJ Almost all of them are taken a few km from home, which is in Northern PJ Norway. Most are taken at night! PJ the link: PJ http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=266609 PJ Any coments are welcomed. PJ Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Photography = obstruction of justice?
Sure, but I value the freedom to speak my mind and seek my wisdom without being scared of what may be stored in my cache .-) DagT Den 3. aug. 2006 kl. 22.20 skrev Tom C: Freedom is always a relative term, as there is no such thing as 'absolute freedom'. Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. From: DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Photography = obstruction of justice? Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 21:55:06 +0200 From some discussions last week I think some have the freedom to scare others. The land of the free becomes the land of the scared... DagT Den 3. aug. 2006 kl. 18.28 skrev Tom C: It's the freedom to enslave others... Tom C. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. Patrick McGoohan in The Prisoner From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Photography = obstruction of justice? Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:36:22 -0400 I always thought a Freedom Fighter fought for freedom, many given that label seem to fight against it. Norman Baugher wrote: Let's throw in Freedom Fighter somewhere as well... Norm From: P. J. Alling No, like all good libertarians we call those who overreach their authority stateists. Those who finally rebel are called rebels. Terrorists are a different kettle of fish entirely. William Robb wrote: From: P. J. Alling Who says we tolerate it. When the cops do something like this you contact a lawyer and the local press. Freedom needs to be defended everywhere, but it needs to be defended. If it isn't, eventually you have to use force... We call those people terrorists. -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net DagT http://dag.foto.no Beware of internet links. You never know what is on the other side. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net DagT http://dag.foto.no Beware of internet links. You never know what is on the other side. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
To a Bruce Dayton
The shot with less sky is much better. Warmth of a evening sun and coldness of the sky contrasting. Quite interesting. I also wanted to thank you for your comments on my earlier works - Peach - that for some reason I found in archives but not mailed within the digest. I guess it happens. Then, had my hard drive crashed, lost 3 unarchived photo sessions due to this and now getting system to work again. Roman. -- home http://roman.blakout.net/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO-- Alexa vs. Ducks
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Re: Photography = obstruction of justice?
On Aug 3, 2006, at 4:59 PM, DagT wrote: Sure, but I value the freedom to speak my mind and seek my wisdom without being scared of what may be stored in my cache .-) Freedom should be absolute up to the point that it begins to infringe on someone else's freedom. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Pass Road
Actually, it was a #25 red. I have used a polarizer, as well, with similar results. Jack --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought it might be. One of the fellows that has taken the high school darkroom class with me(about 6 times now) uses a #25 and polerizer, and gets the same effect. He shoots Tmax aswell Dave Quoting Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks, David! T-Max 100. Dark red filter stacked with Cokin gray grad filter to further darken sky. Jack --- David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Missed this i quess. Great shot Jack. Love the black sky against the clouds Very good conversion if indeed it was. Dave Quoting Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It was bound to happen again..just a matter of a short time. AAA!! http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=152 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Some images...
Some stunning stuff there, Pål. I can't imagine my having the dedication to go to the top of a Norwegian mountain in winter to take photos! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 12:20 AM Subject: Some images... I've put up about 20 images as a portfolio at Photo.net. Almost all of them are taken a few km from home, which is in Northern Norway. Most are taken at night! the link: http://www.photo.net/photodb/member-photos?user_id=266609 Any coments are welcomed. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Tree Flower
Bruce, I like the shot but can only see the revision. The original link is broken to me. I am worried about the middle of the photo. It looks smudged, as if you had a drop of liquid that puddled on the print and ran along the stem. Don't know what it is, but it detracts from the otherwise excellent photo. Regards, Bob S. On 8/1/06, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack, Thanks for the comments and suggestions. I like what you had to say. Here is close to what you suggested: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3236a.htm Here is the original: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3236.htm -- Bruce Tuesday, August 1, 2006, 8:11:17 PM, you wrote: JD Like it! Sharply detailed foreground together with a darker background, JD give it a 3-D look. JD Leaf (?) peeking up from the lower right could be eliminated. You may JD have a cropping choice which would allow placing the blossoms more to JD the right, especially due to the left blossom carrying the most weight. JD A shot I enjoy looking at. JD Jack JD --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax *IstD, A 70-210/4, handheld ISO 200, 1/1000 sec @ f/8.0 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3236.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net JD __ JD Do You Yahoo!? JD Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT Monument Valley Utah / Arizona need advice
Actually, I found it amusing. It's always fun to be the center of
attention:-)
The most fun I had with spectators while shooting a commercial was in
San Francisco at city hall. We converted city hall into an opera
house and shot overnight. (City Hall looks a lot more like an opera
house than the nearby opera house.) Some of the commercial took place
on the front steps. Hundreds of people in formal dress descended the
stairs as the performance ended and got into their limos, which, of
course, included numerous Lincoln Town Cars. Apparently some
activists heard about the shoot and turned out in full force. Some of
us wore headphones so we could hear the director on the large set, so
it looked like we were recording sound. We weren't. But when the
director saw the hundreds of protesters lined up across the street,
he didn't want to disappoint them. So before he gave his Roll film
command, he did an extra loud Roll Sound. That initiated a chant
from the protesters, who screamed at the top of their voices: Less
money for cars! More money for AIDS! Good times were had by all.
Paul
On Aug 2, 2006, at 11:12 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
Hope you've gotten over the shame of being one of those yelled
at. :-]]
Sounds like a bunch of happy people having a really swell time on
vacation. G
Jack
--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I shot a Buick commercial on 163. Of course it was a bit intrusive
with half a dozen trucks and a crew of 30. We were up toward the top
of the road looking back toward MV. It was about this cowboy who was
driving his Roadmaster back to New Jersey to visit his mama (no
kidding). Anyway, people who drove buy screamed things at us like,
Get the F out of the road. Shove that big pig of a Buick up your A.
And things like that. Lots of fun. But no one likes a big film crew
in the middle of their vacation.
Paul
On Aug 2, 2006, at 7:29 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
A shot on a wet 163 is one I'll never forget.
Don't recall who took it, but the highway was set in black and
appeared
as a silver ribbon extending from the camera to the far off
monuments.
When there, I kind of hope for a short rain late in the day, so I
could
steal the idea.
Jack
--- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Jack, I had not read your post when I wrote mine - I'm a
Goulding's fan from way back.
I was also going to suggest that heading up 163 toward
Mexican hat there are spectacular views of
the valley and other things like the Rapley anticline that
are great photo fodder.
ann
Jack Davis wrote:
Tom,
If you want to go in prior to the formal opening time, be
prepared
to
PAY dearly for a guide. You will have no choice. Guide or
nothing.
If I
remember, it cost us (3) $40 ea. Sunrise is prior to daily
opening
time.
We had been in the previous pm and knew exactly where we wanted
to
be,
but we were not given a choice.
I had a 4-WD, but many didn't and at that time,('prox 3 yes ago)
the
road/trail didn't require it.
There is a day use picnic area I saw, but don't believe there is
a
camping place there. I'm putting up a shot taken from the picnic
area.
(Used orange filter)
Recommend close by Goulding's Lodge, 2 mi. off US 163 and
Goulding's
Jct. All services and a bit of history.
The lodge is perched on a side bluff which affords a nice area
view. It
overlooks a small airport where, at least at one time, provided
light
fixed wing aircraft flights over the Valley.
I have no financial interest in Goulding's, but am furnishing
their
'phone no. in case: (435) 727-3231.
Jack
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Re: PESO - The Lonely Field
Bruce, #1 is a Farm (3228). I wish the hay bale didn't cut the frame on the right. #2 is a Barn (3222), with a nice flow/balance of bales directing the view to the Barn. #3 is the best (3220a) with a sense of scale from the fence to the field to the barn to the sloping hillside background. It's got the whole story. I think it's the best. Regards, Bob S. On 8/1/06, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got back from a short trip/family reunion. I was able to take this shot during the reunion. This area used to be a small town - just a ranch or two left now. I took three different shots of the same basic scene. I would be very interested in your thoughts about these three - is one clearly better - is one clearly worse, etc. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, handheld ISO 400, 1/1000 sec @ f/9.5 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3228.htm Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, handheld ISO 400, 1/750 sec @ f/11 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3222.htm Pentax *istD, A 70-210/4, handheld ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f/11 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3220a.htm -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - didn't make the PUG
Russell, I don't understand what the big thing framing the tower on the right is. I don't like how it touches the tower. I don't know why it's titled Avacadohead. Regards, Bob S. On 8/1/06, Russell Kerstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This one didn't make the PUG, but maybe it shouldn't have... http://www.avocadohead.com/mexlinks/pic09.html as the saying goes.. honest and brutal russell -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
A few questions on a Zeiss Ikon, an old film and a studio lighting peace
Hi all, I would appreciate some help on a few things. At the following adress there are a few pictures. They are self explanatory. I got a few questions regarding what's in them. http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=627921 1) Regarding the Zeiss Ikon Nettar front piece: You can see this red little thingy set at F. Now what does this red thing do there? What does F and M mean? 2) You'll see two pictures of one very old (exposed) film canister. a) Can anybody estimate some dates for it's production? b) Any suggestions on what process might get any pictures out of it? 3) You'll see another thingy, which is a (infrared?) sender which will trigger some Godard studio lights that I will start learning how to use. It obviously needs a battery. Does anybody know of what voltage this battery would be? (Or is this evident? There are batteries of different voltages that will physically fit, right?) Many thanks in advance for any answers or good clues. Lasse -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT Monument Valley Utah / Arizona need advice
I like the Director.
Nice blend of centered folks and the 'fringe'.
Jack
--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, I found it amusing. It's always fun to be the center of
attention:-)
The most fun I had with spectators while shooting a commercial was in
San Francisco at city hall. We converted city hall into an opera
house and shot overnight. (City Hall looks a lot more like an opera
house than the nearby opera house.) Some of the commercial took place
on the front steps. Hundreds of people in formal dress descended the
stairs as the performance ended and got into their limos, which, of
course, included numerous Lincoln Town Cars. Apparently some
activists heard about the shoot and turned out in full force. Some of
us wore headphones so we could hear the director on the large set, so
it looked like we were recording sound. We weren't. But when the
director saw the hundreds of protesters lined up across the street,
he didn't want to disappoint them. So before he gave his Roll film
command, he did an extra loud Roll Sound. That initiated a chant
from the protesters, who screamed at the top of their voices: Less
money for cars! More money for AIDS! Good times were had by all.
Paul
On Aug 2, 2006, at 11:12 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
Hope you've gotten over the shame of being one of those yelled
at. :-]]
Sounds like a bunch of happy people having a really swell time on
vacation. G
Jack
--- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I shot a Buick commercial on 163. Of course it was a bit intrusive
with half a dozen trucks and a crew of 30. We were up toward the
top
of the road looking back toward MV. It was about this cowboy who
was
driving his Roadmaster back to New Jersey to visit his mama (no
kidding). Anyway, people who drove buy screamed things at us like,
Get the F out of the road. Shove that big pig of a Buick up your
A.
And things like that. Lots of fun. But no one likes a big film
crew
in the middle of their vacation.
Paul
On Aug 2, 2006, at 7:29 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
A shot on a wet 163 is one I'll never forget.
Don't recall who took it, but the highway was set in black and
appeared
as a silver ribbon extending from the camera to the far off
monuments.
When there, I kind of hope for a short rain late in the day, so I
could
steal the idea.
Jack
--- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Jack, I had not read your post when I wrote mine - I'm a
Goulding's fan from way back.
I was also going to suggest that heading up 163 toward
Mexican hat there are spectacular views of
the valley and other things like the Rapley anticline that
are great photo fodder.
ann
Jack Davis wrote:
Tom,
If you want to go in prior to the formal opening time, be
prepared
to
PAY dearly for a guide. You will have no choice. Guide or
nothing.
If I
remember, it cost us (3) $40 ea. Sunrise is prior to daily
opening
time.
We had been in the previous pm and knew exactly where we wanted
to
be,
but we were not given a choice.
I had a 4-WD, but many didn't and at that time,('prox 3 yes
ago)
the
road/trail didn't require it.
There is a day use picnic area I saw, but don't believe there
is
a
camping place there. I'm putting up a shot taken from the
picnic
area.
(Used orange filter)
Recommend close by Goulding's Lodge, 2 mi. off US 163 and
Goulding's
Jct. All services and a bit of history.
The lodge is perched on a side bluff which affords a nice area
view. It
overlooks a small airport where, at least at one time, provided
light
fixed wing aircraft flights over the Valley.
I have no financial interest in Goulding's, but am furnishing
their
'phone no. in case: (435) 727-3231.
Jack
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Re: Photography = obstruction of justice?
Hear, hear!! (thanks for earlier spelling correction). Jack --- Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 3, 2006, at 4:59 PM, DagT wrote: Sure, but I value the freedom to speak my mind and seek my wisdom without being scared of what may be stored in my cache .-) Freedom should be absolute up to the point that it begins to infringe on someone else's freedom. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A few questions on a Zeiss Ikon, an old film and a studio lighting peace
Lasse Karlsson wrote: Hi all, I would appreciate some help on a few things. At the following adress there are a few pictures. They are self explanatory. I got a few questions regarding what's in them. http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=627921 1) Regarding the Zeiss Ikon Nettar front piece: You can see this red little thingy set at F. Now what does this red thing do there? What does F and M mean? It's a flash selector. F for Focal plane, meaning flash bulbs, and M for, er, Modern [8-)))], meaning electronic flash. 2) You'll see two pictures of one very old (exposed) film canister. a) Can anybody estimate some dates for it's production? b) Any suggestions on what process might get any pictures out of it? Certainly 1970s or older. The number down the right hand side of the label might give you a clue. Why not ask Agfa? Best option would be a clip test in BW chemistry. 3) You'll see another thingy, which is a (infrared?) sender which will trigger some Godard studio lights that I will start learning how to use. It obviously needs a battery. Does anybody know of what voltage this battery would be? (Or is this evident? There are batteries of different voltages that will physically fit, right?) Probably not - looks like a standard 9volt (PP9 or whatever the modern equivalent is) connector. Many thanks in advance for any answers or good clues. Lasse -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A few questions on a Zeiss Ikon, an old film and a studio lighting peace
On 8/3/06, Lasse Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I would appreciate some help on a few things. 2) You'll see two pictures of one very old (exposed) film canister. a) Can anybody estimate some dates for it's production? b) Any suggestions on what process might get any pictures out of it? It's Isopan F. There's a thread at photodotnet about processing this film: http://photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00CUF8 -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - The Other Bridge
Marnie, I don't mind the crop, but I think the wires is a matter of resolution. Do you have a 2000x3000 pix. Can you see individual wires there? Do they get fuzzy as you resize this picture? I have to doubt that they are moving. Regards, Bob S. On 8/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/2/2006 10:21:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Aug 3, 2006, at 4:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/other.htm A simple, slightly odd shot, but I sort of like it. I'm curious... why are the vertical wires blurred when everything else is sharp? - Dave === They were moving. In a suspension bridge, the suspension wires move a little bit all the time. Even though it was probably shot with a fairly quick shutter speed (I used AV so I cannot say off hand what it was), it was probably not fast enough to capture no movement at all. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A few questions on a Zeiss Ikon, an old film and a studio lighting peace
Lasse Karlsson wrote: Hi all, I would appreciate some help on a few things. At the following adress there are a few pictures. They are self explanatory. I got a few questions regarding what's in them. http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=627921 1) Regarding the Zeiss Ikon Nettar front piece: You can see this red little thingy set at F. Now what does this red thing do there? What does F and M mean? It's for using F or M sync flashbulbs. (M is the same as X IIRC). 2) You'll see two pictures of one very old (exposed) film canister. a) Can anybody estimate some dates for it's production? b) Any suggestions on what process might get any pictures out of it? No Idea about the film. 3) You'll see another thingy, which is a (infrared?) sender which will trigger some Godard studio lights that I will start learning how to use. It obviously needs a battery. Does anybody know of what voltage this battery would be? (Or is this evident? There are batteries of different voltages that will physically fit, right?) Looks like a connection for a standard 9 volt battery. Many thanks in advance for any answers or good clues. Lasse -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Pond - round 2
Bruce, Like everybody says, #2 is better. I like the way you were able to improve based on the suggestions on the first pix. Foreground grasses focused. Less of the harsh sky. Less confusion in the middle... clearer central tree. More symeric composition, side side. Very nice, now if I could only learn to improve like this... Regards, Bob S. On 8/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/3/2006 10:26:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I went back this morning to see if I could improve the shot a bit. Slightly different lighting and more DOF. Pentax *istD, DA 16-45/4 @ 28mm, handheld ISO 400, 1/60 sec @ f/11 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3279.htm Original shot: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3263.htm Comments welcome -- Bruce Yes. The lighting is much better, softer, not so harsh. Yup, I like it better. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
