Re: Just a bit of something I experienced I thought I'd share with the club
Bong, you understood me just right. Now I feel like I should make a photo series or at least some photos that would relate to the emtpy room/space feeling that I had. Boris Bong Manayon wrote: On 3/8/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a bit of musings I'd put down in words, if you don't mind reading them. Boris You did your best, but words even seem to get in the way. It almost feels patronizing to simply say I think I know what you felt/feel. Reminds of an Ansel Adams quote: When words become unclear, I shall focus with photographs. When images become inadequate, I shall be content with silence. Bong -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Just a bit of something I experienced I thought I'd share with the club
In a message dated 3/8/2007 12:03:24 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bong, you understood me just right. Now I feel like I should make a photo series or at least some photos that would relate to the emtpy room/space feeling that I had. Boris == I found your thoughts interesting, Boris, just had no reply. But what a great quote below. Really sums it up. Marnie aka Doe :-) == Bong Manayon wrote: On 3/8/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a bit of musings I'd put down in words, if you don't mind reading them. Boris You did your best, but words even seem to get in the way. It almost feels patronizing to simply say I think I know what you felt/feel. Reminds of an Ansel Adams quote: When words become unclear, I shall focus with photographs. When images become inadequate, I shall be content with silence. Bong BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Simplified PS workflow
I believe this thread got started because SFW *doesn't* do (2) On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 09:15:08PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: SFW does 1, 2, and 3 ... Shel Why in Hell should I have to Press 1 for English?!!! [Original Message] From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: 3/7/2007 9:12:45 PM Subject: Re: Simplified PS workflow Tom, as far as I understand, the PhotoShop CS2 does 2 and 3 below automatically if you choose save for web option from the menus. Also, generally the less files you have on your desktop the faster your windows is. This is at least has been my experience. Personally, I have two hard drives on my PC. Each has a directory called work on the top most level like c:\work or d:\work, etc. There I have all my stuff organized the way I see fit. It is also easier to backup/restore it this way. I just tell the backup program to backup these two directories and I am done. Boris graywolf wrote: 1. Resample image to 72ppi. 2. Change profile to sRGB. 3. Change image to 8 bit. 4. Save for Web and delete modified image. To go with that I revised my workflow so that raw images from the camera or one of the scanners go into a Raw Images folder on the Desktop. I consider those to be my digital equivalent of negatives. Using Camera Raw I convert to PSD files which go into a PSD Images folder on the Desktop. These are the working images to be edited to final print form. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Simplified PS workflow
How do you get CS2 to automatically convert from your working profile to sRGB with Save for web ? When I use Save for web it has the option to include the ICC profile, but it assigns my working space profile (ProPhoto RGB). Cheers, Dave On 3/8/07, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SFW does 1, 2, and 3 ... Shel Why in Hell should I have to Press 1 for English?!!! [Original Message] From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: 3/7/2007 9:12:45 PM Subject: Re: Simplified PS workflow Tom, as far as I understand, the PhotoShop CS2 does 2 and 3 below automatically if you choose save for web option from the menus. Also, generally the less files you have on your desktop the faster your windows is. This is at least has been my experience. Personally, I have two hard drives on my PC. Each has a directory called work on the top most level like c:\work or d:\work, etc. There I have all my stuff organized the way I see fit. It is also easier to backup/restore it this way. I just tell the backup program to backup these two directories and I am done. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Simplified PS workflow
What is SFW please? John Francis wrote: I believe this thread got started because SFW *doesn't* do (2) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Simplified PS workflow
Save For Web Dave On 3/8/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is SFW please? John Francis wrote: I believe this thread got started because SFW *doesn't* do (2) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO:The Missing link
From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/08 Thu AM 12:00:40 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO:The Missing link Bob W wrote: Mike, can you try this please? You'll need to flush your buffers first to force a visit to my server. http://www.web-options.com/Phone/ Whips through them now. Noticably quicker, even though it was behaving this evening. I'll try it from work tomorrow and report back. Same here. I don't know what was causing it but it's stopped now. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO:The Missing link
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/08 Thu AM 12:44:14 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO:The Missing link Mike, can you try this please? You'll need to flush your buffers first to force a visit to my server. http://www.web-options.com/Phone/ Whips through them now. Noticably quicker, even though it was behaving this evening. I'll try it from work tomorrow and report back. thanks. I've just now republished the main Staithes site, so it would help if you could check that too - it's derived from large raw files rather than dinky camera jpegs. http://web-options.com/Staithes2007/ Thanks for pointing the problem out and helping to resolve it. That's fine also. I'm glad to have the opportunity to look through other than the thumbs. You were up and about early. Nice sunrises. 'appen. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Went back and reshot the damn bird!
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/08 Thu AM 12:05:23 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Subject: Went back and reshot the damn bird! Okay, so the white sky sucks. I went back and reshot that bird when the sky was better. I found him in exactly the same place. Imagine that! :-)) http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5691710size=lg Looks like a still from a Hollywood film. 8-) - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Soggy postcards
From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/08 Thu AM 12:57:32 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Soggy postcards Thanks for the free journey to the Staiths Bob. It sure looks like a nice place. And this reminds me. My UK trip is cancelled, because my son is kicked out of the country. So this time it is no reason for us to go. They do that if you're caught supplying whale meat. Still, it's a pity. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: beauty shot: Pentax K10D- 17mm lenses are out there
I still say that you cannot capture on digital as wide a scenic dynamic range as you can with the best films and film techniques in that regard. I think several people here are confusing the dynamic range of the negative with the dynamic range of the scene captured on the negative. They are not the same thing because the negative does not necessarily have to be linear capture/playback. There can be companding going on which will allow greater range to be captured than the range of negative densities created. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Lacus Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:54 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: beauty shot: Pentax K10D- 17mm lenses are out there Godfrey, ...(lack of artificial look also playing significant role).. A digital camera can produce any look you want. It's all in the image processing. And that's not something learned overnight. The more you do, the better your results will be. unfortunately, I can't agree completely. Some limitations are built-in to system and you can't overcome them easily (Nyquist frequency, pixels arranged in [Bayer] matrix) and when they play together against you, some artificial flavour to picture is pretty much inevitable (such as moire or aliasing). Indeed film does have its' own set of limitations as well (for example limited dynamic range) but I'm used to them. Of course I expect my skills will improve over time (I can now produce better results using ACR than one month ago) but I expect the RAW converters will improve as well. :-) However I don't expect miracles - rendering on film will always be different than on digital IMHO. Not better nor worse, just different... Cheers, Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Simplified PS workflow
I will have to check, but it seems to me that I am doing all my processing in sRGB, which I realize is not necessarily a good thing. On 3/8/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you get CS2 to automatically convert from your working profile to sRGB with Save for web ? When I use Save for web it has the option to include the ICC profile, but it assigns my working space profile (ProPhoto RGB). Cheers, Dave On 3/8/07, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SFW does 1, 2, and 3 ... Shel Why in Hell should I have to Press 1 for English?!!! [Original Message] From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: 3/7/2007 9:12:45 PM Subject: Re: Simplified PS workflow Tom, as far as I understand, the PhotoShop CS2 does 2 and 3 below automatically if you choose save for web option from the menus. Also, generally the less files you have on your desktop the faster your windows is. This is at least has been my experience. Personally, I have two hard drives on my PC. Each has a directory called work on the top most level like c:\work or d:\work, etc. There I have all my stuff organized the way I see fit. It is also easier to backup/restore it this way. I just tell the backup program to backup these two directories and I am done. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PUG Comments March 2007
Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: X by Gianfranco Irlanda http://pug.komkon.org/07mar/binariox.html Strong composition with the X of the rails and camera at ground level. Bravery award for risking life, camera, and limb in front of that oncoming car that is much closer than it appears. Hi Tom, Thanks for the award! :-) Yeah, the car was much closer but not *that* close... Ciao, Gianfranco _ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Simplified PS workflow
It does for me. I just dump a 16-bit file into the SFW option and it converts to 8-bit, 72-ppi and sRGB unlsee told otherwise. Been doing it that way off and on for some time. Maybe some people have their SFW options set differently than mine - I don't know, just know what works for me. Shel [Original Message] From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: 3/8/2007 12:32:57 AM Subject: Re: Simplified PS workflow I believe this thread got started because SFW *doesn't* do (2) On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 09:15:08PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: SFW does 1, 2, and 3 ... Shel Why in Hell should I have to Press 1 for English?!!! [Original Message] From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: 3/7/2007 9:12:45 PM Subject: Re: Simplified PS workflow Tom, as far as I understand, the PhotoShop CS2 does 2 and 3 below automatically if you choose save for web option from the menus. Also, generally the less files you have on your desktop the faster your windows is. This is at least has been my experience. Personally, I have two hard drives on my PC. Each has a directory called work on the top most level like c:\work or d:\work, etc. There I have all my stuff organized the way I see fit. It is also easier to backup/restore it this way. I just tell the backup program to backup these two directories and I am done. Boris graywolf wrote: 1. Resample image to 72ppi. 2. Change profile to sRGB. 3. Change image to 8 bit. 4. Save for Web and delete modified image. To go with that I revised my workflow so that raw images from the camera or one of the scanners go into a Raw Images folder on the Desktop. I consider those to be my digital equivalent of negatives. Using Camera Raw I convert to PSD files which go into a PSD Images folder on the Desktop. These are the working images to be edited to final print form. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG
http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/index.htm Hey how's this for a walkabout lens? Cheers, Ryan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG
The link on that page is javascript, but here's the content link: http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/news/200_500_28.htm - Original Message - From: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 10:16 PM Subject: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/index.htm Hey how's this for a walkabout lens? Cheers, Ryan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PMA: Is this a joke ?
I don't think it's a joke. Leica's joining the 21st century. The Leica brand as already been on PS cameras, this is a step up IMHO. Thibouille wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0703/07030704leica14-150mm.asp Leica producing that kind of lens? Huh Smells brand image depreciation to me. -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: beauty shot: Pentax K10D- 17mm lenses are out there
Interesting, I would have thought that it would do better. I'm able to get a greater dynamic range than I can print. ACR, even the previous version, is supposed to be one of the best converters. J. C. O'Connell wrote: ACR, not the newest version, I am using with PS CS(1) jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 6:12 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: beauty shot: Pentax K10D- 17mm lenses are out there Which raw converter are you using? J. C. O'Connell wrote: Well, only 8 stops out of print film has got to be a mistake of some sorts, I have seen numbers reported as high as 15 stops out this type of film and I know for a fact there is like 3 stops of LATITUDE alone on the good slow color neg films, (not to be confused with dynamic range )which would be impossible if there was only 8 stops total range. I did some tests with the DS shooting RAW and found that I was unable to record capture what I could easily see, even using raw. The exposure latitude with that camera is much smaller than color neg film. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 3:55 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: beauty shot: Pentax K10D- 17mm lenses are out there - Original Message - From: Peter Lacus Subject: Re: beauty shot: Pentax K10D- 17mm lenses are out there Bill, DSLR cameras are showing 10 stops or more of dynamic range, which is about 3 stops more than that of print film, probably 5 stops more range than slide film. IMHO there's only one definitive truth - film emulsions react to the light in a different way than linear digital sensors. Indeed it's much easier to extract useful data from digital RAW files but does it prove that digital sensor captures wider dynamic range? IMHO it proves that current scanners are not capable of extracting data from the film more than anything else. I'd have to dig out my charts from when I was learning the Zone System, but my recollection is that I was never able to get more than 9-10 stops out of BW film without going to very exotic processing methods. My experience working as a QC technician in the photo lab industry indicated to me that print film, when measured on a densitometer, was incapable of givng more than 7-8 stops of dynamic range. My observations were not dependant on scanner limitations or paper dynamic ranges, but on direct measurement of film samples using a device designed specifically for that purpose. William Robb -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PMA: Is this a joke ?
Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leica probably know how to make those lens with quality ... They *make* none of this. The making is done by Sigma. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO-- Do Make Say Think
Shooting at gigs is hard. Good light, and you picked a fine moment. My only nit is that the drummers face is blown out and hidden behind the guitar neck. But you can't have it all ;-) Very good work. Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hamilton Sent: 5. mars 2007 02:48 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO-- Do Make Say Think Saw a live band on Friday. Instrumental rock from Montreal. I started shooting with my Sigma 70-300, but it was too slow at all focal lengths (4.0-5.6). Ditched it for the DA70 and got some gooders. Processed with Lightroom. http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/2007/03/04/do-make-say-think-starlite-room/ K10D w/ DA70 - 1/100sec @ f/2.4, ISO 1600 Comments, critiques welcome! -- Cheers, [EMAIL PROTECTED] MichaelHamilton.ca -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO -- West Boardwalk, Hammonassett Beach
I like this Peter. For me it is about texture. I only wish you had gone a step or two further into the scene. That had improved the composition a lot IMO. How about cropping the bottom? Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: 5. mars 2007 04:25 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO -- West Boardwalk, Hammonassett Beach After I went out to shoot the total eclipse of the Moon unsuccessfully last night I didn't think I'd have a particularly good photographic weekend. Then today when walking the dog, I saw the most spectacular sunset. This isn't it. I may post one of those shots later. But here is a shot from around the same time. http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_hwbb.html Technical Data: *ist-Ds ISO 200 @ 1/80sec. +0.7 ev. smc Pentax 43mm f1.9 :Limited @ f4.0 -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG
I thought you meant the 18-200. Seems a bit excessive for a walk about lens. And a bit limiting unless you plan to take photos from blocks away. Ryan Lee wrote: The link on that page is javascript, but here's the content link: http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/news/200_500_28.htm - Original Message - From: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 10:16 PM Subject: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/index.htm Hey how's this for a walkabout lens? Cheers, Ryan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG
Oh yes, I forgot to mention, it'll frighten small animals and children, (and in seems to require batteries). Ryan Lee wrote: http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/index.htm Hey how's this for a walkabout lens? Cheers, Ryan -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: GESO:roadtrip
A fine collection, but I could live without £4 and #6, they break the rhythm of the gallery. #5 is my fav. Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alastair Robertson Sent: 5. mars 2007 09:31 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: GESO:roadtrip http://www.massey.ac.nz/~aroberts/mt_cook_gallery/content/index.html In January I had a work trip to Canterbury (New Zealand) and on the way back to Christchurch I was in the passenger seat with a view of Mt Cook. Jenny, the driver, was in no mood to stop for photo's so I set my K10D to 1/1000, ISO 400, fitted the FA24-90 and a polariser and grabbed frames through the open window at 100 kph! I cropped most of the these to panorama, converted a copy to B W in lightroom. You may recognise frame 3 as my latest PUG entry (my wife thinks that #1 would have been a stronger entry for the gallery). In case you are wondering, #4 is a salmon farm located on a canal that forms part of the hydro scheme, the tailrace features in frame #3. #8 is the only photo taken that wasn't shot out of the moving car. I thought that the sequence (shown in the order taken) as we passed Mt Cook and eventually reached the plains made a nice gallery - hence my first GESO for the list! Comments/critiques welcome Alastair -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG
On 3/08/07 7:23 AM, Ryan Lee, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The link on that page is javascript, but here's the content link: http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/news/200_500_28.htm Looks ridiculous to me :-) Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax K10D firmware update 1.11 now available
On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 09:10:35AM -0500, Doug Franklin wrote.. K.Takeshita wrote: Also, I thought that firmware is something burnt into a ROM of the camera CPU and not supposed to be easily manipulated back and forth, no? It can be in read-only memory, and in that case you can't upgrade it, if that's all that's available. More often what you'll have is some memory that's read-only and some that's read-write. The read-write memory contains the actual operational code for the camera and you can upgrade it. The read-only part contains the basic bootstrap loader and utility functions (like update the read-write memory) so they can't get messed up in an upgrade and you can always change the upgradeable firmware in the read-write part if something goes wrong. Think of the ROM in your DSLR as yet another incarnation of the FlashROM that lives inside your SD or CF cards and you will understand how this fits together. Wilko -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PMA: Is this a joke ?
Sigma? OK I see what I have to think about quality control then. 2007/3/8, Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leica probably know how to make those lens with quality ... They *make* none of this. The making is done by Sigma. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Sigma DP1
Mmmm.. APS-C Foveon sensor More refined styling plus viewfinder. http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/compact/2007/03/08/5749.html Awfully tempting. Let's see what other might come up with. Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG
P. J. Alling wrote: And a bit limiting unless you plan to take photos from blocks away. Ryan Lee wrote: The link on that page is javascript, but here's the content link: http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/news/200_500_28.htm A 200-500 would be *the bomb* at the race track and some other sporting events. That's probably about the only place I'd use it a lot, though. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PAW - Camouflage (Repost)
Great improvement Marnie. The effort paid off. And good luck on PAW project. I'll chime in now and then. I've been thinking about doing PAW myself. But I am a bit indecisive about it. The reason is that I am afraid it could kill my creativity. As if I where creative ;-) Time will tell. I spend too much time with my birds at the moment, and I can't see bird photos as PAW. Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 5. mars 2007 15:38 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: PAW - Camouflage (Repost) Thanks to Ken who suggested I work more with the crop on this one. I think this is much more successful. http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/pawFeb26.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Went back and reshot the damn bird!
Thanks Marnie. Lots of fun. Paul On Mar 8, 2007, at 12:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/7/2007 4:12:53 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay, so the white sky sucks. I went back and reshot that bird when the sky was better. I found him in exactly the same place. Imagine that! :-)) http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5691710size=lg = Really good PS job. Looks much better. OR... funny how he didn't move. LOL. Marnie aka Doe BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Sigma DP1
Ken wrote: Mmmm..APS-C Foveon sensor More refined styling plus viewfinder. http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/compact/2007/03/08/5749.html Awfully tempting. Let's see what other might come up with. Isn't that the same as the Leica version? I looked at the Leica and was very impressed, for about 600.00. Walt Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Went back and reshot the damn bird!
Thanks Jens. On Mar 8, 2007, at 12:56 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: Truely an excellent photograph, Paul. I love the wasy the frame is devided in two and the bird is sitting in the midle. Very grafic. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Paul Stenquist Sendt: 8. marts 2007 04:22 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Went back and reshot the damn bird! Yes, I shot a lot of sky plates for stock houses. Skies sell:-). Paul On Mar 7, 2007, at 9:33 PM, Markus Maurer wrote: Do you have a collection of different skies and other backgrounds to use for photos like that one? There is a freeware artificial clouds action for Photoshop , If you like I can search for the link again... Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:43 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Went back and reshot the damn bird! No. Second layer and some eraser work. I think I overdid the softening of the edges, however. May have to go back and sharpen up a bit. It will go to stock in this mode. Hell, most art directors replace the sky anyway. Paul On Mar 7, 2007, at 7:19 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote: Channel mask? You devil! -Brendan --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, so the white sky sucks. I went back and reshot that bird when the sky was better. I found him in exactly the same place. Imagine that! :-)) http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5691710size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net _ _ _ _ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/713 - Release Date: 03/07/2007 09:24 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/713 - Release Date: 03/07/2007 09:24 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D and fill flash
On the AF 560FGZ you can dial in flash compensation. With a flash like the AF400T in auto mode, I set the flash for f11 and set the camera manually to f8, if I want minus one stop fill. Paul On Mar 8, 2007, at 1:17 AM, Jens Bladt wrote: How do you get the K10D to shoot fill flash. That is less flash (fill flash) light than for normal flash (main light), please? Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/713 - Release Date: 03/07/2007 09:24 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
GESO: It Happened on Woodward
Paul, I saw one of your pics from the Woodward Ave link on the Pentax Gallery site. I was previewing my submissions and it opened with a fade in/fade out of a lot of pics and the shot of the Birmingham Gentleman is in the group. Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PAW - Camouflage (Repost)
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RE: More dog pictures
Baiting here are we? (I'm referring to last sentence) Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: 7. mars 2007 21:11 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: More dog pictures - Original Message - From: Kenneth Waller Subject: Re: More dog pictures Love the postures on 2249. Tough exposure nut to crack Thanks Ken. It was a happy capture, and the camera didn't let me down. When I checked the histogram, I noted that nothing was clipped on the exposure. I don't know offhand what the exposure range is on this shot, but it ranges from snow in full sun to a jet black dog. It makes me wonder how a racing car sitting under an awning on a cloudy day can be outside the dynamic range of a DSLR. William Robb http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/fellas/page3/page3.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: GESO - Snow Crystals (at last)
These shots are really breathtaking. Watching them puts a thing or two in perspective. Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Cassino Sent: 6. mars 2007 00:15 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: GESO - Snow Crystals (at last) It took a while, but I finally got some acceptable snow crystal shots this season. Here are a few: http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/stream/2007/070303/IMGP0640.htm http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/stream/2007/070303/IMGP0646.htm http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/stream/2007/070303/IMGP0668.htm http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/stream/2007/070303/IMGP0662cr.htm I'm not a big fan of the perfect, paper cut out, absolutely symmetric snow crystal. For me, these ragged / run through the mill subjects are what it's all about. It's interesting - I had shifted over to using a Sigma 50mm EX f2.8 macro lens for snow crystals last winter. Before that I used either an M 50 f4 macro or M 50 f 1.7 standard lens. (Lenses are reverse mounted on gobs of extension.) Anyhow - I wanted some new snowflake shots for the Pentax Gallery so I pulled out the M50 f4 and used it on Saturday. Independent of that, I finally remembered how to get the lighting right (it seems to take longer every year...) I have to say - that old relic of a macro lens really kicks. It _is_ slow and dim with all the extension, but it still really produces the best images. I stopped using it because the aperture was slow in the cold - not stuck, but slow. So I have to tap the aperture arm on it to get it to fully stop down. I'll definitely be getting it fixed. The rest of Saturday's shot's (and the more recent other shots from this season) are here: http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/stream/stream05.htm Commentary is here: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php Comments appreciated - MCC -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, Michigan www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG
I think Ryan was being facetious. On Mar 8, 2007, at 8:14 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: I thought you meant the 18-200. Seems a bit excessive for a walk about lens. And a bit limiting unless you plan to take photos from blocks away. Ryan Lee wrote: The link on that page is javascript, but here's the content link: http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/news/200_500_28.htm - Original Message - From: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 10:16 PM Subject: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/index.htm Hey how's this for a walkabout lens? Cheers, Ryan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Went back and reshot the damn bird!
Thanks Mike. A little theater is a good thing. On Mar 8, 2007, at 3:57 AM, mike wilson wrote: From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/08 Thu AM 12:05:23 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Subject: Went back and reshot the damn bird! Okay, so the white sky sucks. I went back and reshot that bird when the sky was better. I found him in exactly the same place. Imagine that! :-)) http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5691710size=lg Looks like a still from a Hollywood film. 8-) - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG
Actually, I think that Sigma is size-envious or something. You remember this 2100/4 beast published not a long ago? Sigma couldn't do it this long, so they went zoom and they went f2.8 ;-). I am being sarcastic. On 3/8/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Ryan was being facetious. On Mar 8, 2007, at 8:14 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: I thought you meant the 18-200. Seems a bit excessive for a walk about lens. And a bit limiting unless you plan to take photos from blocks away. Ryan Lee wrote: The link on that page is javascript, but here's the content link: http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/news/200_500_28.htm - Original Message - From: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 10:16 PM Subject: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/index.htm Hey how's this for a walkabout lens? Cheers, Ryan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: beauty shot: Pentax K10D- 17mm lenses are out there
I'm able to get a greater dynamic range than I can print. Isn't that normal? Scanning Velvia is an education in that respect. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/08 Thu PM 12:51:17 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: beauty shot: Pentax K10D- 17mm lenses are out there Interesting, I would have thought that it would do better. I'm able to get a greater dynamic range than I can print. ACR, even the previous version, is supposed to be one of the best converters. J. C. O'Connell wrote: ACR, not the newest version, I am using with PS CS(1) jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 6:12 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: beauty shot: Pentax K10D- 17mm lenses are out there Which raw converter are you using? J. C. O'Connell wrote: Well, only 8 stops out of print film has got to be a mistake of some sorts, I have seen numbers reported as high as 15 stops out this type of film and I know for a fact there is like 3 stops of LATITUDE alone on the good slow color neg films, (not to be confused with dynamic range )which would be impossible if there was only 8 stops total range. I did some tests with the DS shooting RAW and found that I was unable to record capture what I could easily see, even using raw. The exposure latitude with that camera is much smaller than color neg film. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 3:55 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: beauty shot: Pentax K10D- 17mm lenses are out there - Original Message - From: Peter Lacus Subject: Re: beauty shot: Pentax K10D- 17mm lenses are out there Bill, DSLR cameras are showing 10 stops or more of dynamic range, which is about 3 stops more than that of print film, probably 5 stops more range than slide film. IMHO there's only one definitive truth - film emulsions react to the light in a different way than linear digital sensors. Indeed it's much easier to extract useful data from digital RAW files but does it prove that digital sensor captures wider dynamic range? IMHO it proves that current scanners are not capable of extracting data from the film more than anything else. I'd have to dig out my charts from when I was learning the Zone System, but my recollection is that I was never able to get more than 9-10 stops out of BW film without going to very exotic processing methods. My experience working as a QC technician in the photo lab industry indicated to me that print film, when measured on a densitometer, was incapable of givng more than 7-8 stops of dynamic range. My observations were not dependant on scanner limitations or paper dynamic ranges, but on direct measurement of film samples using a device designed specifically for that purpose. William Robb -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PMA: Is this a joke ?
Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sigma? OK I see what I have to think about quality control then. Not quite. The lenses are checked in Solms. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG
Doug, I don't recall - how many sherpas you normally take with you to a shoot? ;-) On 3/8/07, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: And a bit limiting unless you plan to take photos from blocks away. Ryan Lee wrote: The link on that page is javascript, but here's the content link: http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/news/200_500_28.htm A 200-500 would be *the bomb* at the race track and some other sporting events. That's probably about the only place I'd use it a lot, though. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG
From: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/08 Thu PM 12:23:20 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG The link on that page is javascript, but here's the content link: http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/news/200_500_28.htm - Original Message - From: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 10:16 PM Subject: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/index.htm Hey how's this for a walkabout lens? *Camera show sold separately For the price this will retail at, I would expect a freebie. And a tripod. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: beauty shot: Pentax K10D- 17mm lenses are out there
I use both versions of ACR. There's no difference in how much range one can extract from a RAW file. ACR2 just offers more control over what falls in between the extremes, via curves. Paul On Mar 8, 2007, at 7:51 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Interesting, I would have thought that it would do better. I'm able to get a greater dynamic range than I can print. ACR, even the previous version, is supposed to be one of the best converters. J. C. O'Connell wrote: ACR, not the newest version, I am using with PS CS(1) jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 6:12 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: beauty shot: Pentax K10D- 17mm lenses are out there Which raw converter are you using? J. C. O'Connell wrote: Well, only 8 stops out of print film has got to be a mistake of some sorts, I have seen numbers reported as high as 15 stops out this type of film and I know for a fact there is like 3 stops of LATITUDE alone on the good slow color neg films, (not to be confused with dynamic range )which would be impossible if there was only 8 stops total range. I did some tests with the DS shooting RAW and found that I was unable to record capture what I could easily see, even using raw. The exposure latitude with that camera is much smaller than color neg film. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 3:55 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: beauty shot: Pentax K10D- 17mm lenses are out there - Original Message - From: Peter Lacus Subject: Re: beauty shot: Pentax K10D- 17mm lenses are out there Bill, DSLR cameras are showing 10 stops or more of dynamic range, which is about 3 stops more than that of print film, probably 5 stops more range than slide film. IMHO there's only one definitive truth - film emulsions react to the light in a different way than linear digital sensors. Indeed it's much easier to extract useful data from digital RAW files but does it prove that digital sensor captures wider dynamic range? IMHO it proves that current scanners are not capable of extracting data from the film more than anything else. I'd have to dig out my charts from when I was learning the Zone System, but my recollection is that I was never able to get more than 9-10 stops out of BW film without going to very exotic processing methods. My experience working as a QC technician in the photo lab industry indicated to me that print film, when measured on a densitometer, was incapable of givng more than 7-8 stops of dynamic range. My observations were not dependant on scanner limitations or paper dynamic ranges, but on direct measurement of film samples using a device designed specifically for that purpose. William Robb -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:16:32 +1000, Ryan Lee wrote http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/index.htm Hey how's this for a walkabout lens? Cheers, Ryan A dedicated APO TELE CONVERTER 2x EX DG II is supplied as a standard accessory with the APO 200-500mm F2.8 EX DG just in case you need some extra reach! You could always gut it and use it as the worlds most expensive thermos flask 8) John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sigma DP1
Drat... Not FAST enough for *me* is what I was trying to say... On 3/8/07, Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me see. On this kind of sensor the 28 mm lens becomes more or less similar to 43 limited lens. But, unfortunately, it is only F4 lens. Not was enough for *me*... Sorry folks, I get to keep the money. Cheers. On 3/8/07, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken wrote: Mmmm..APS-C Foveon sensor More refined styling plus viewfinder. http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/compact/2007/03/08/5749.html Awfully tempting. Let's see what other might come up with. Isn't that the same as the Leica version? I looked at the Leica and was very impressed, for about 600.00. Walt Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Boris -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO: It Happened on Woodward
Yes, it was selected for the Collection, whatever that might be. That fade in/out must be something new (or an error). Paul On Mar 8, 2007, at 8:49 AM, Walter Hamler wrote: Paul, I saw one of your pics from the Woodward Ave link on the Pentax Gallery site. I was previewing my submissions and it opened with a fade in/fade out of a lot of pics and the shot of the Birmingham Gentleman is in the group. Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG
From: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/08 Thu PM 12:23:20 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG The link on that page is javascript, but here's the content link: http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/news/200_500_28.htm - Original Message - From: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 10:16 PM Subject: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/index.htm Hey how's this for a walkabout lens? No good without the teleconvertor. Then it becomes more of a stumble or lurchabout lens. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sigma DP1
Let me see. On this kind of sensor the 28 mm lens becomes more or less similar to 43 limited lens. But, unfortunately, it is only F4 lens. Not was enough for *me*... Sorry folks, I get to keep the money. Cheers. On 3/8/07, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken wrote: Mmmm..APS-C Foveon sensor More refined styling plus viewfinder. http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/compact/2007/03/08/5749.html Awfully tempting. Let's see what other might come up with. Isn't that the same as the Leica version? I looked at the Leica and was very impressed, for about 600.00. Walt Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG
Notice that you will have to buy a camera *show*... This is obviously a misprint, but it is done on purpose. On 3/8/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/08 Thu PM 12:23:20 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG The link on that page is javascript, but here's the content link: http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/news/200_500_28.htm - Original Message - From: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 10:16 PM Subject: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/index.htm Hey how's this for a walkabout lens? *Camera show sold separately For the price this will retail at, I would expect a freebie. And a tripod. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG
On 3/08/07 9:11 AM, John Whittingham, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could always gut it and use it as the worlds most expensive thermos flask 8) A guy in Japan posted; With a radar dome attached in front, this is a fat submarine with a crew of two. Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sigma DP1
On 3/08/07 9:08 AM, Boris Liberman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Drat... Not FAST enough for *me* is what I was trying to say... Yes, but for this size, faster than this would probably not fit in. Curious to see the sensor performance at higher ISO. Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Buying a monopod
Hi! I've decided I'd buy a monopod. My choices are basically Slik 350 and Manfrotto 680. Any specifics I should be looking for or both are acceptable. Mainly I am going to use it with 80-320 towards 320 mm of course. And generally a bit of (mobile) support won't hurt me. What do you say? P.S. Don't offer me a tripod, 'cause I have one ;). -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: GESO - stairs and birds eye view
Judging from a brief look, it is good photography, but they are so small :-( Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pedro Oliveira Sent: 6. mars 2007 00:44 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: GESO - stairs and birds eye view Hi. This time a smaller GESO (sorry for the last one, too big, I know). Finally I'm reviewing some photos taken with the *ist DL (in my 20 iMac, it is a pleasure) and found some interesting photos (for me at least). All photos taken with A-series lenses (A-24/2.8 and A-70-210/4). The place is the old side of my hometown, Porto (Portugal), near the Rio Douro (Golden River). http://picasaweb.google.com/popentax/OldTownPortoFragmentsApril2006Penta xIstDL Hope you enjoy and feel free to comment. Regards. Pedro Oliveira -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO -- West Boardwalk, Hammonassett Beach, Revisited (several times)
I got a number of suggestions on this and did a bit of playing around, (you can mess around endlessly and never be satisfied). First both and Tom and Tim didn't like the crop. So I cropped it in sort of a compromise between their suggestions, (and Tom though it wasn't sharp enough, so I did a bit of possibly in judicious sharpening). The result is this: http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_hwbbii.html While playing around I thought it looked like a fairly old fashioned beach scene and decided to give it a BW treatment. Converted using an red filter. (I re-cropped it because I kind of wanted to show the end of the Boardwalk). http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_hwbbiiibw.html Finally I wondered what it would look like if I gave it the kind of over the top dramatic look you see in some of Ansel Addams' later reprints so I increased the contrast with a curves adjustment layer. http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_hwbbiiibwhc.html There a little something for everyone. -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: K10D and fill flash
Hi Jens I have 1 day of experience with the K10D so I can only speculate. If you set the camera to F8 and the flash in auto mode to F 5.6 or F4 you should get some flash fill. If you set the camera to ISO 100 and the flash to ISO 200-400 in auto mode that should work too. I speak of older flashes like the Metz or Pentax you have. greetings Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jens Bladt Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 7:18 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: K10D and fill flash How do you get the K10D to shoot fill flash. That is less flash (fill flash) light than for normal flash (main light), please? Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/713 - Release Date: 03/07/2007 09:24 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG
From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/08 Thu PM 02:18:25 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG Notice that you will have to buy a camera *show*... This is obviously a misprint, but it is done on purpose. Wouldn't you want to tell all your friends if you owned it? What better way than a camera show? On 3/8/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/08 Thu PM 12:23:20 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG The link on that page is javascript, but here's the content link: http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/news/200_500_28.htm - Original Message - From: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 10:16 PM Subject: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/index.htm Hey how's this for a walkabout lens? *Camera show sold separately For the price this will retail at, I would expect a freebie. And a tripod. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO: From Belgium's backyards
For a change, something quite out of the ordinary: a daytime colour picture. ;-) http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/8184995 As always, your comments... :-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO -- Relaxed
A good idea but the dog need as bit more room around the nose and no cropping of the paw for me. greetings Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 8:39 AM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO -- Relaxed In a message dated 3/7/2007 3:51:05 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alexa, enjoying the fireplace. http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/2007/03/07/enjoying-the-warmth/ K10D w/ 43LTD. Comments, critiques welcome. -- -- Cheers, [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Good composition. Marnie aka Doe :-) BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Simplified PS workflow
Hi Boris don't forget to save your profile(s) too. It contains email, adressbook, favorites, templates and more. Most people forget to save it and loose all that in case of If you use ntbackup, dont't forget to include \documents and settings (Dokumente und Einstellungen) greetings Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Boris Liberman Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 6:11 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Simplified PS workflow Tom, as far as I understand, the PhotoShop CS2 does 2 and 3 below automatically if you choose save for web option from the menus. Also, generally the less files you have on your desktop the faster your windows is. This is at least has been my experience. Personally, I have two hard drives on my PC. Each has a directory called work on the top most level like c:\work or d:\work, etc. There I have all my stuff organized the way I see fit. It is also easier to backup/restore it this way. I just tell the backup program to backup these two directories and I am done. Boris graywolf wrote: 1. Resample image to 72ppi. 2. Change profile to sRGB. 3. Change image to 8 bit. 4. Save for Web and delete modified image. To go with that I revised my workflow so that raw images from the camera or one of the scanners go into a Raw Images folder on the Desktop. I consider those to be my digital equivalent of negatives. Using Camera Raw I convert to PSD files which go into a PSD Images folder on the Desktop. These are the working images to be edited to final print form. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Buying a monopod
From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/03/08 Thu PM 02:42:16 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Subject: Buying a monopod Hi! I've decided I'd buy a monopod. My choices are basically Slik 350 and Manfrotto 680. Any specifics I should be looking for or both are acceptable. Mainly I am going to use it with 80-320 towards 320 mm of course. And generally a bit of (mobile) support won't hurt me. What do you say? Generally, the fewer joints the better. If you must have more than one, high quality is of the essence. I am not sure of the grooved shaft on the Slik (sounds like a gimmick, ready to fill with stuff and stop it working) or the quality of the locks. Manfrotto for me. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Simplified PS workflow
Yes, I also understood that to be true. However the thread I mentioned was about a sudden problem with PS not doing that. Since the action does it with no effort on my part, that takes care of the problem altogether. Boris Liberman wrote: Tom, as far as I understand, the PhotoShop CS2 does 2 and 3 below automatically if you choose save for web option from the menus. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Lens Roadmap
I would much like a DA 28/2.8 with 49 mm diameter. Surely this would not be an expensive and not bulky standard lens. Henk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Oswald Sent: 07 March, 2007 6:47 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Lens Roadmap Where's a DA28? Am I the only one who loves the 28mm focal length on a DSLR? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Simplified PS workflow
Markus, On 3/8/07, Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Boris don't forget to save your profile(s) too. It contains email, adressbook, favorites, templates and more. Most people forget to save it and loose all that in case of If you use ntbackup, dont't forget to include \documents and settings (Dokumente und Einstellungen) I use EMC Retrospect backup software that came with 0.5 TB external hard drive that I have. I have MozBackup that I use routinely to backup my e-mail and my browser info to a file. These files are backed up via Retrospect. My address book is stored on my cell phone, that is sync'ed with MS Outlook. So, I am 99.9% covered. Or at least I hope so ;-). -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: beauty shot: Pentax K10D- 17mm lenses are out there
I am not saying that the istDS cannot create/output wide range images ( such as beyond the printing range of a printer), of course it can, it outputs up to full white/full black digital, I am saying it can't RECORD really wide range SCENES without blowing out the highlights and/or blocking up the shadows. Big difference. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 7:51 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: beauty shot: Pentax K10D- 17mm lenses are out there Interesting, I would have thought that it would do better. I'm able to get a greater dynamic range than I can print. ACR, even the previous version, is supposed to be one of the best converters. J. C. O'Connell wrote: ACR, not the newest version, I am using with PS CS(1) jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P. J. Alling Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 6:12 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: beauty shot: Pentax K10D- 17mm lenses are out there Which raw converter are you using? J. C. O'Connell wrote: Well, only 8 stops out of print film has got to be a mistake of some sorts, I have seen numbers reported as high as 15 stops out this type of film and I know for a fact there is like 3 stops of LATITUDE alone on the good slow color neg films, (not to be confused with dynamic range )which would be impossible if there was only 8 stops total range. I did some tests with the DS shooting RAW and found that I was unable to record capture what I could easily see, even using raw. The exposure latitude with that camera is much smaller than color neg film. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 3:55 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: beauty shot: Pentax K10D- 17mm lenses are out there - Original Message - From: Peter Lacus Subject: Re: beauty shot: Pentax K10D- 17mm lenses are out there Bill, DSLR cameras are showing 10 stops or more of dynamic range, which is about 3 stops more than that of print film, probably 5 stops more range than slide film. IMHO there's only one definitive truth - film emulsions react to the light in a different way than linear digital sensors. Indeed it's much easier to extract useful data from digital RAW files but does it prove that digital sensor captures wider dynamic range? IMHO it proves that current scanners are not capable of extracting data from the film more than anything else. I'd have to dig out my charts from when I was learning the Zone System, but my recollection is that I was never able to get more than 9-10 stops out of BW film without going to very exotic processing methods. My experience working as a QC technician in the photo lab industry indicated to me that print film, when measured on a densitometer, was incapable of givng more than 7-8 stops of dynamic range. My observations were not dependant on scanner limitations or paper dynamic ranges, but on direct measurement of film samples using a device designed specifically for that purpose. William Robb -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Buying a monopod
Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! I've decided I'd buy a monopod. My choices are basically Slik 350 and Manfrotto 680. Any specifics I should be looking for or both are acceptable. Mainly I am going to use it with 80-320 towards 320 mm of course. And generally a bit of (mobile) support won't hurt me. The 680 looks nice. I have a Bogen/Manfrotto that works very well for me. (not as compact as the 680 but supports a lot of weight) I use a tilt/swivel head on it with a Arca-swiss quick release to make switching camera and lenses faster. It actually balances very nicely with the new 500mm F4 lens. Can't wait to try this out on motorsports. Generally I've had good luck with bogen/Manfrotto products and would gothat route even if it cost a bit more. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Digital Camera User Demography (Japan)
Just some interesting observations. Industrial Information Research Institute of Japan have published annual survey of the digital camera usage. Link is below; http://www.industrial-info.biz/press/press20070307.pdf Sorry, it's in unknown alien language but all you have to read are those charts. There are 5 major questionnaires and the question numbers corresponds to the chart numbers. I will give you the translation of legends. Question 1: Do you think that the image quality from digital cameras are better than those from film cameras? See Chart 1 (I am sure you can figure out which is the chart 1). X axis from top Total (in bracket is a number of respondents) Male Female Y axis from left Digital is better Film is better Same Don't know Question 2; What do you think of functions and performance of cameras of cell phones (in comparison with PS Digitals)? See Chart 2 X axis Total Male Female Y axis About the same as PS and adequate for normal size print Worse than PS but adequate for normal size print Not adequate for print Don't know Please note that cell phones in Japan are generally far superior than those in N.America and many of them have over 3 megapixels. With many using cell phones for snap photos, this question is valid but only in Japan (and maybe a few other countries, at least for now). Question 3. What functions do you want to see in digital cameras? Chart 3 X axis Image Stabilization High ISO performance Weather proofing Face recognition Dust Reduction Movie Wireless LAN Others Question 4; Which brand of digital camera do you wish to purchase? Chart 4 X axis Canon Sony Nikon Panasonic Olympus Fuji Casio Pentax Leica Kodak Ricoh Sanyo Others Y axis PS digital (blue hatched) DSLR (red hatched) Question 5; What do you think would be the appropriate pixel numbers? Chart 5 X axis This time Last time Y axis Below 5mp 6mp 7mp 8mp 9mp 10mp 12mp Over 15mp Don't know There is a sub-question to this, which is; If everything else (design, size, functions, performance and price) is equal, but different pixel count, which brand are you going to buy? Response was will buy higher pixel cameras regardless of the brand - 49.3% and will buy the favourite brand camera regardless mof pixel count - 35.2% The rest of the charts are true demographic info such as gender, occupations, age, interest/hobby, place of residence and how they come to know the questionnaire. If anyone would be interested in knowing these demog info, please let me know. Have fun. Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sigma DP1
Actually I think that the 28mm are alredy 'equivalent'. The lens is a 16.6mm F4. Better now? ;-) - Mensaje original De: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: jueves, 8 de marzo, 2007 15:07:33 Asunto: Re: Sigma DP1 Let me see. On this kind of sensor the 28 mm lens becomes more or less similar to 43 limited lens. But, unfortunately, it is only F4 lens. Not was enough for *me*... Sorry folks, I get to keep the money. Cheers. On 3/8/07, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken wrote: Mmmm..APS-C Foveon sensor More refined styling plus viewfinder. http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/compact/2007/03/08/5749.html Awfully tempting. Let's see what other might come up with. Isn't that the same as the Leica version? I looked at the Leica and was very impressed, for about 600.00. Walt Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Simplified PS workflow
The files, as I thought I made clear, are only temporarily on the Desktop. In fact those three temporary file folders are the only ones actually on the desktop, plus links to my documents partition and a folder for transferring files to and from my laptop. I keep my desktop very clean. If I am working on a project I put links there for the software I am using frequently, when the project is done I remove them. However, you may have a point, while I have not had a corrupted desktop in a long time (years) that used to happen quite often, It might be better to have the files where they will not be lost if that happens. I use bicubic sharper to resize the webimages, that seems to do a good job of sharpening them about the correct amount. -graywolf Markus Maurer wrote: Hi Graywolf putting real documents or images on the desktop is a bad habit IMHO. You should only have links/aliases there. As a rule you should separate programs and data files on different partitions . Windows and programs on c:, documents and images in different folders on d:. That way just have to backup d: and make an image of c: to d: with ghost or a similar program from time to time and burn that image to dvd. Of course you have to manually tell/force some programs like Outlook/Express or finance programs to safe data on d: Your action does not sharpen the photos after resizing. I would do that as step 3. greetings Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of graywolf Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:37 AM To: PDML Subject: Simplified PS workflow A follow up on my recent Save For Web thread. I did set up an action (turned out to be quite simple) to do the following: 1. Resample image to 72ppi. 2. Change profile to sRGB. 3. Change image to 8 bit. 4. Save for Web and delete modified image. To go with that I revised my workflow so that raw images from the camera or one of the scanners go into a Raw Images folder on the Desktop. I consider those to be my digital equivalent of negatives. Using Camera Raw I convert to PSD files which go into a PSD Images folder on the Desktop. These are the working images to be edited to final print form. Anything for the web is now converted by the action above and saved into a Web Images folder (also on the desktop). Which can be done by hitting F12 on an open image or by running the action on the PSD Image folder as a batch and converting all of them. Once I am through selecting them the Web Images I want to use go to an appropriate folder in my Webpage archive to be uploaded, and the batch is deleted from the Web Images folder (remember it is as simple as hitting F12 to recreate them). PSD images get saved to am appropriate subfolder in my Photos Partition, and the raw images get archived. Seems to be working well so far. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PAW - Camouflage (Repost)
In a message dated 3/8/2007 5:44:16 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Great improvement Marnie. The effort paid off. And good luck on PAW project. I'll chime in now and then. I've been thinking about doing PAW myself. But I am a bit indecisive about it. The reason is that I am afraid it could kill my creativity. As if I where creative ;-) Time will tell. I spend too much time with my birds at the moment, and I can't see bird photos as PAW. Tim Typo Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Thanks, Tim. I can. Marnie aka Doe re birds :-) BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Simplified PS workflow
More problems than that! Here it the post I referred back to, so folks do not have to check the archives: For some reason, all of a sudden, when I use Save for Web in PS CS2 I am getting a desaturated, color shifted jpeg. This has just started happening. I do not recall making any changes in PS settings. I did have automatic updates on, could Adobe have made some change? Has anyone else noticed a similar problem? My normal procedure has been to resize the image to 100ppi from my standard 256ppi using Bicubic Sharper, then use Save for Web to get a small jpeg. Doing that now gets me something like this: http://www.graywolfphoto.com/digital/_images/Misc/P2210331.jpg As a comparison this one was done using Save As and is much closer to what my .psd looked like (Warning very large file. Which is why I use save for web, it strips a lot of junk out of the file): http://www.graywolfphoto.com/digital/_images/Misc/Rube%20Goldberg%20Recording%20Studio.jpg I have gone through some of the older images on my webpage just to make sure that was not happening in the past without my noticing. It was not. Several folks suggested I use those four steps to solve the problem. Setting up an action to do it means it only takes pressing one button and it happens about as fast as you can snap your fingers even on my old slow PC. --- John Francis wrote: I believe this thread got started because SFW *doesn't* do (2) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO: From Belgium's backyards
Don't know about Europe, but I bet it is impossible to shoot an industrial site in the US without the obligatory dumpster and overflowing trash! I definately like the night scenes more. Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sigma DP1
Well, actually even worse ;-). I like standard lenses... On 3/8/07, Jaume Lahuerta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually I think that the 28mm are alredy 'equivalent'. The lens is a 16.6mm F4. Better now? ;-) - Mensaje original De: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: jueves, 8 de marzo, 2007 15:07:33 Asunto: Re: Sigma DP1 Let me see. On this kind of sensor the 28 mm lens becomes more or less similar to 43 limited lens. But, unfortunately, it is only F4 lens. Not was enough for *me*... Sorry folks, I get to keep the money. Cheers. On 3/8/07, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken wrote: Mmmm..APS-C Foveon sensor More refined styling plus viewfinder. http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/compact/2007/03/08/5749.html Awfully tempting. Let's see what other might come up with. Isn't that the same as the Leica version? I looked at the Leica and was very impressed, for about 600.00. Walt Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sigma DP1
On 3/08/07 10:35 AM, Jaume Lahuerta, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually I think that the 28mm are alredy 'equivalent'. The lens is a 16.6mm F4. It has a sensor 12 times the size of 1/2.5 and 8 times the 1/1.8. So, can't simply dismiss it. Remember, this is for the portability with excellent image quality. My hope is that this would provoke 4/3 camp to counter this :-). Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Simplified PS workflow
It worked that way for me, Shel, until I changed my working profile from AdobeRGB to ProfotoRGB, then it broke. But it did not break right away, I assume that a recent automatic upgrade caused the problem but, by setting up an action to do it solves the problem, hopefully forever. Setting up an action turned out to be real easy. Just open the Action window, set it on record and manually process one image, then save the action. I assigned it to F12, so to use it all I have to do to use it is hit F12 and the current image is processed and the resized PSD deleted. (I hope I have enough sense to save the image before hitting F12.) Shel Belinkoff wrote: It does for me. I just dump a 16-bit file into the SFW option and it converts to 8-bit, 72-ppi and sRGB unlsee told otherwise. Been doing it that way off and on for some time. Maybe some people have their SFW options set differently than mine - I don't know, just know what works for me. Shel [Original Message] From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: 3/8/2007 12:32:57 AM Subject: Re: Simplified PS workflow I believe this thread got started because SFW *doesn't* do (2) On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 09:15:08PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: SFW does 1, 2, and 3 ... Shel Why in Hell should I have to Press 1 for English?!!! [Original Message] From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: 3/7/2007 9:12:45 PM Subject: Re: Simplified PS workflow Tom, as far as I understand, the PhotoShop CS2 does 2 and 3 below automatically if you choose save for web option from the menus. Also, generally the less files you have on your desktop the faster your windows is. This is at least has been my experience. Personally, I have two hard drives on my PC. Each has a directory called work on the top most level like c:\work or d:\work, etc. There I have all my stuff organized the way I see fit. It is also easier to backup/restore it this way. I just tell the backup program to backup these two directories and I am done. Boris graywolf wrote: 1. Resample image to 72ppi. 2. Change profile to sRGB. 3. Change image to 8 bit. 4. Save for Web and delete modified image. To go with that I revised my workflow so that raw images from the camera or one of the scanners go into a Raw Images folder on the Desktop. I consider those to be my digital equivalent of negatives. Using Camera Raw I convert to PSD files which go into a PSD Images folder on the Desktop. These are the working images to be edited to final print form. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO -- West Boardwalk, Hammonassett Beach, Revisited (several times)
I definately prefer the BW #1, with the color as #2. The High Contrast rendition is way too contrasty for me. Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Buying a monopod
It costs 1.5 times as much as Slik, but still within my reach. On 3/8/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! I've decided I'd buy a monopod. My choices are basically Slik 350 and Manfrotto 680. Any specifics I should be looking for or both are acceptable. Mainly I am going to use it with 80-320 towards 320 mm of course. And generally a bit of (mobile) support won't hurt me. The 680 looks nice. I have a Bogen/Manfrotto that works very well for me. (not as compact as the 680 but supports a lot of weight) I use a tilt/swivel head on it with a Arca-swiss quick release to make switching camera and lenses faster. It actually balances very nicely with the new 500mm F4 lens. Can't wait to try this out on motorsports. Generally I've had good luck with bogen/Manfrotto products and would gothat route even if it cost a bit more. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: hmm. Lensbabies for Pentax 645
Hi, It' s for Pentax 67, not 645. Crazy :) BR, Margus Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Announced at PMA ... http://www.pma-show.com/0163/lensbabies/slrlens/speciallens/ G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Locked SD Card Problem
On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 00:55:03 -0500 Doug Franklin (Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Shel Belinkoff wrote: I wonder if there's a way to set the card permanently in the unlocked position. Push it to the unlocked position. Very carefully, with a really sharp knife, carve of any part of the tab that extends beyond the interior of the case. ...and this will _lock_ the card permanently. There is no switch inside the card. The tab, when in unlocked position, activates a switch in the socket, allowing the card to be writable. No tab = card read only. here's something that can be handy 'on location', in emergency with no shops in sight and with your OTG drive safe at home - as it happened to me: You need to put a matching bit in place of the broken/lost tab in unlocked position (covering top half of the notch). I used a bit of cigarette box (Chesterfield it was i think :), placed it in the slot where the tab was and secured with superglue. Card is still fine (over a year). teem -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG
Ryan Lee wrote: The link on that page is javascript, but here's the content link: http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/news/200_500_28.htm DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT! I shoulda held out for this instead of getting my slow-ass 500/4... :-) -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sigma DP1
I really like the latest offerings by Olympus, the f/2 zooms are indeed a step up or step forward! On 3/8/07, K.Takeshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/08/07 10:35 AM, Jaume Lahuerta, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually I think that the 28mm are alredy 'equivalent'. The lens is a 16.6mm F4. It has a sensor 12 times the size of 1/2.5 and 8 times the 1/1.8. So, can't simply dismiss it. Remember, this is for the portability with excellent image quality. My hope is that this would provoke 4/3 camp to counter this :-). Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: hi5 - Who's in?
Probably I am the only one in here, who could read this :) OK, I'll try to translate. As Roman seems to be not native estonian, his speech is also a bit non-estonian grammatically): Believe or not, but this guy is deaf. Probably he is a model or at least he has a good chance to be one - just like you have. BR, Margus Roman wrote: http://www.hi5.com/friend/profile/displayProfile.do?userid=1464592 Usu või mitte, aga see kutt on ka kurt, ja arvatavasti modell või siis vähemalt tal on kõik eeldused selleks saada, nagu ka sinul. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Went back and reshot the damn bird!
Nah. Its a fake tree! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Went back and reshot the damn bird! That's one of those little fake birds from the craft store. :-) Yes it's better. Tom C. From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Subject: Went back and reshot the damn bird! Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 19:05:23 -0500 Okay, so the white sky sucks. I went back and reshot that bird when the sky was better. I found him in exactly the same place. Imagine that! :-)) http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5691710size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Went back and reshot the damn bird!
Paul Stenquist wrote: Okay, so the white sky sucks. I went back and reshot that bird when the sky was better. I found him in exactly the same place. Imagine that! :-)) http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5691710size=lg :-) seriously, it looks like it was shot in a diorama at a museum... -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Locked SD Card Problem
On 3/07/07 6:48 PM, Tomasz Machnik, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no switch inside the card. The tab, when in unlocked position, activates a switch in the socket, allowing the card to be writable. No tab = card read only. Thought so, as it was such a cheap plastic slide button. Sort of like breakable tab on audio tape. Then there would be all sorts of emergency measures. But do not wish to lose it inside of camera :-). Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 09:28:08 -0500, K.Takeshita wrote On 3/08/07 9:11 AM, John Whittingham, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could always gut it and use it as the worlds most expensive thermos flask 8) A guy in Japan posted; With a radar dome attached in front, this is a fat submarine with a crew of two. Ken LOL John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: From Belgium's backyards
- Original Message - From: Ralf R. Radermacher Subject: PESO: From Belgium's backyards For a change, something quite out of the ordinary: a daytime colour picture. ;-) http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/770012/display/8184995 As always, your comments... :-) Does anyone actually live in Belgium or is it one big factory? G William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: More dog pictures
- Original Message - From: Tim Øsleby Subject: RE: More dog pictures Baiting here are we? (I'm referring to last sentence) Debunking myths and spurious claims. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Saturation/Sharpness/Contrast settings at Natural in K10D
What are your experiences with the settings for saturation, sharpness and contrast so far? I've left them all @ default. You have much better control in PS. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Markus Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Saturation/Sharpness/Contrast settings at Natural in K10D Hi K10D users What are your experiences with the settings for saturation, sharpness and contrast so far? Can I just leave them at the default natural setting or would I even get better results lowering for ex. in camera sharpening (and/or saturation/contrast) and doing that as the last step in Photoshop after all other adjustments? I prefer natural, not oversaturated and oversharpened photos, that's why I ask :-) Just got the camera yesterday and had not enough time for experiments beside flashing with the AF280T greetings Markus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Pentax gallery : picture description
Sad to admit, I didn't get it @ first Tom. I didn't know if you were familiar with the gallery. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pentax gallery : picture description I hope you're joking Ken. I was. :-) Tom C. From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax gallery : picture description Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 16:06:43 -0500 Tom, there's a description area a Title area Both require input or Pentax won't accept. No Title will work on one image, but then you'll a whole gallery of No Name Could simply number them, but Pentax might not accept an entire gallery of numbers. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Pentax gallery : picture description Picture descriptions are an arrogant way of telling the viewer how to interpret the photo and are condescending. Just write No Title. Better yet, just give it a meaningless number. Tom C. From: Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Pentax gallery : picture description Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 19:11:55 +0100 I have no idea about how one do put a description of a picture, usually. Do you say Paris by night or should it be longer (describing exactly what is on the picture) etc... I'm a bit lost. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Declined...
What I don't believe is that tired old saw about how a good picture will always overcome it's technical flaws. I agree with that statement as long as always is in there. While I definitely strive for technically well done images, a unique pose/action by an animal can definitely overcome some of those deficiencies. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Declined... - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: Declined... Kenneth Waller wrote: As you say, digital images work best when they are lacking in detail and graphical in nature. Sort of style vs substance? By the way, I don't believe the statement that digital images work best when they are lacking in detail and graphical in nature. That's a massive oversimplification at *best*. Sometimes massive oversimplifications hit the nail on the head. I carp quite often that this picture or that is worthy of a Wisner. By this, I mean that the picture is deserving of the increase in technical quality that more detail will provide. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: hmm. Lensbabies for Pentax 645
lol ... Get the 6x7 to 645 adapter ... ? G On Mar 8, 2007, at 8:07 AM, Margus Männik wrote: Hi, It' s for Pentax 67, not 645. Crazy :) BR, Margus Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Announced at PMA ... http://www.pma-show.com/0163/lensbabies/slrlens/speciallens/ G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RAW batch processors and RAW Browsers out there?
I would like to do the following in an automated (batch file) way: 1. Open a pentax raw file, set maximum white level on RAW file as 100% white, set minimum black level on RAW file as 100% black, do a fixed medium level unsharp mask, and save as an uncompressed 16 bit file as well as a jpeg at absolute minimum compression. 2. Same as above but add : convert to sRGB colorspace right after opening the file. and create a third jpeg, with reduced size and more compression for web usage. Is there any software out there that can do this stuff easily to a whole folder of RAW files other than photoshop actions? I would also like to know if there is a good RAW file browser out there that can read RAW/jpeg/tiff/etc files and display thumbs and previews with adjustable thumbnail and preview sizes other than the photoshop browser which I am not thrilled with. Thanks in advance. jco -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: From Belgium's backyards
Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I definately like the night scenes more. Just thought I'd show you something done in daylight, for a change. Reminds me of my radio days when I did three years of continuous night shifts until they referred to me as the mine horse. ;-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO -- West Boardwalk, Hammonassett Beach, Revisited (several times)
I like the color version the best and the crop/sharpening makes a huge difference, IMO, between making it a photo I feel ambivalent toward to making it one that I now like. :-) :-) The BW conversion works for me also. The 'Ansel Adams' version doesn't do much for me. Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO -- West Boardwalk, Hammonassett Beach, Revisited (several times) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 10:06:22 -0500 I got a number of suggestions on this and did a bit of playing around, (you can mess around endlessly and never be satisfied). First both and Tom and Tim didn't like the crop. So I cropped it in sort of a compromise between their suggestions, (and Tom though it wasn't sharp enough, so I did a bit of possibly in judicious sharpening). The result is this: http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_hwbbii.html While playing around I thought it looked like a fairly old fashioned beach scene and decided to give it a BW treatment. Converted using an red filter. (I re-cropped it because I kind of wanted to show the end of the Boardwalk). http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_hwbbiiibw.html Finally I wondered what it would look like if I gave it the kind of over the top dramatic look you see in some of Ansel Addams' later reprints so I increased the contrast with a curves adjustment layer. http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_hwbbiiibwhc.html There a little something for everyone. -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sigma DP1
Boris Liberman wrote: I really like the latest offerings by Olympus, the f/2 zooms are indeed a step up or step forward! Not really. Fast lenses are required by 4/3 in order to compensate for the noise due to smaller pixels (pixel count being equal) and for reducing depth of field (when useful) due to smaller sensor size. So I perceive a F2 lens on 4/3 acting more or less like a F3.5 lens on APS-C, or a F5.6 lens on 24x36mm. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sigma DP1
Walter Hamler wrote: Ken wrote: Mmmm..APS-C Foveon sensor More refined styling plus viewfinder. http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/compact/2007/03/08/5749.html Awfully tempting. Let's see what other might come up with. Isn't that the same as the Leica version? I looked at the Leica and was very impressed, for about 600.00. Walt What Leica version? Leica rebadges Panasonics, not Sigma's. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG
I just love this part: Shooting distance and focal length can be viewed on the lens' LCD panel, which is an additional convenience for the photographer. On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 10:23:20PM +1000, Ryan Lee wrote: The link on that page is javascript, but here's the content link: http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/news/200_500_28.htm - Original Message - From: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 10:16 PM Subject: OT: Sigma 200-500 2.8 EX DG http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/index.htm Hey how's this for a walkabout lens? Cheers, Ryan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
