Re: Earth Hour pix?
I forgot it was on. Not that I had planned to do anything different. :-) Cheers, Dave On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Tim Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Hour - ought to be some scope for low-light fun. Here's one: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/03/29/-big/PS080387.jpg [context: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/03/29/Earth-Hour] -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Anomalous Pentax DSLR's
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 10:16:37AM +0800, David Savage wrote: On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 5:22 AM, Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After getting the K10D, I amused myself by going and looking at the DPReview review of the original ist-D - it's amazing how similar in design the two cameras are. IMO they feel very different in the hand though. Well, yes and no. I'm never in any doubt as to which one I am using, but most of the controls are in the same general position. That isn't true for ISO, though - the K10D eliminated a drawback of the *ist D. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2008 - 55 - GDG
On Mar 29, 2008, at 3:25 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/55-moonrise-01.jpg http://homepage.mac.com/godders/55-moonrise-02.jpg Wow, got quite a number of responses on this one. Thanks for all your comments, and for the compliments too! Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
DA35/2.8 Macro Samples (unofficial)
http://insomnia.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2008/03/da_35mmf28_macr.html Seems it boasts nice bokeh and AFAIR its price is very OK. It isn't much fast (2.8) but it is a normal lens (more or less as a 50mm on 35mm camera) on APS-C and provides direct 1:1 macro. Oh, it is a limited, too. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO 2008 - 55 - GDG
Godfrey DiGiorgi escribió: This photo was made at an evening shoot last week. I can't quite decide whether I prefer the full frame or the square-cropped version ... http://homepage.mac.com/godders/55-moonrise-01.jpg http://homepage.mac.com/godders/55-moonrise-02.jpg Moonrise Over The Quad - Palo Alto 2008 Olympus E-1 + Summilux-D 25mm f/1.4 ASPH ISO 400 @ f/1.4 @ 1/200 sec Both are excellent, but I like more the full frame version. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pets in your home, photos and fee
On 29/3/08, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: some of their customers have new dogs and cats and have inquired if i would be available to do a shoot. Dave, During the course of my work I film animals by the ark-load. You know what the best asset is? Being able to attract the attention of the sitter (s). Practice your animal impersonations - whistling and shouting a dog's name will get you nowhere - you need to speak Dog. Speaking Cat is much worse. Heaven forbid if there are two or more sitters together. Anyway I won't teach you how to suck (duck's) eggs. You asked about charging - I'd name your own rate if I were you. Meanwhile, I have a friend who used to be an RSPCA (Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals) and shot animal portraiture at the weekend as a sideline. It overtook his life and now does it full time: http://www.nickridley.com/ He has some books out: http://www.nickridley.com/publications.htm Best of luck mate. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
request for help
Hello, All, Does somebody have an old Pentax AF-500 FTZ that doesn't work? I've lost the cover for the batter compartment for mine. So, if you have one that you really don't need, - I would be glad to pay some $10-20 for it plus the shipping cost. Ideas where I can get one are also appreciated. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Amsterdam's Magnum 60 years exhibition
Was in Amsterdam a couple days in holiday, weather was crap so no many pictures except consensual souvenirs things. However, the Amsterdams Stedelijk Museum CS has that Magnum exhibition. I have to say it is VERY interesting and well... a bit depressing sometimes but hey those guys aren't in Magnum for nothin'. Full description here: http://www.stedelijk.nl/oc2/page.asp?PageID=1743 I strongly anybody in the area to take a look at it. Definitely worthes it. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA35/2.8 Macro Samples (unofficial)
I will have my first Limited in the very near future! Can't wait. On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://insomnia.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2008/03/da_35mmf28_macr.html Seems it boasts nice bokeh and AFAIR its price is very OK. It isn't much fast (2.8) but it is a normal lens (more or less as a 50mm on 35mm camera) on APS-C and provides direct 1:1 macro. Oh, it is a limited, too. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Toine http://www.repiuk.nl -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Anomalous Pentax DSLR's
I did not like the D handling and thought the K10D is much better although it is also a lot more heavy. Later I could handle a DL (father's camera) and a K100D (I offered to my wife) and I have to admit that those two are a lot better than the D. Not as good as the K10D but they are a lot more lightweight and I might steal my wife's K100D when I'll need lightweight. On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam Maas wrote: The *istD. Overly small grip makes the handling inferior to the later bodies. Slow write speeds and the necessity to drop out of shooting mode to change ISO, WB or image quality settings comprimise it as a camera as well. I think I'm odd-man-out here. While the K10D was plenty comfy, I found the *istD much more pleasant to hold. Most people who have used both give me a crooked stare when I admit this. Granted, the stare could be for other reasons. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Anomalous Pentax DSLR's
Hi, As others have said prior, most Pentax DSLR are so closely alike that it is hard to determine which one is so different. Shape/size slightly differ and is a matter of taste that the only thing that comes into my mind is the *istD's use of the CF card vs. all the other's use of the SD card which make's it anomalous. I tend to look at it that way, but since the D was the first of the series--it could either be the first try (trial error?)/prototype for Pentax or it could be the standard/measure of things to come. If it was the latter, then that makes all the others' use of the SD card as the anomaly :-D Bong On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Roman Melihhov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which Pentax DSLR's you consider as anomalous/awkward either by their intent/design or features? Your input is appreciated. Roman. -- K100D Super, DA10-17mm, DA16-45mm, DA50-200mm, Dörr DStudio strobes roman.blakout.net http://roman.blakout.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: AquaPura Hotel in Douro Vallley Portugal
Hello Manuel! My world just grew smaller :-D Good capture of lovely sceneries! Bong On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 2:09 AM, Manuel Magalhães [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://flickr.com/photos/manumag_photos/ Hey Bong! And others of course, A few photos of the Hotel and surroundings. Best regards, Manuel No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1348 - Release Date: 28-03-2008 10:58 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pets in your home, photos and fee
Thanks Cotty and every one else for the tips. Sounds like its a bit of a head ache at times, but possibly an interesting side line. I'll have to see if any of the pet store inquires pan out, and play it by ear. Dave On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 5:50 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29/3/08, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: some of their customers have new dogs and cats and have inquired if i would be available to do a shoot. Dave, During the course of my work I film animals by the ark-load. You know what the best asset is? Being able to attract the attention of the sitter (s). Practice your animal impersonations - whistling and shouting a dog's name will get you nowhere - you need to speak Dog. Speaking Cat is much worse. Heaven forbid if there are two or more sitters together. Anyway I won't teach you how to suck (duck's) eggs. You asked about charging - I'd name your own rate if I were you. Meanwhile, I have a friend who used to be an RSPCA (Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals) and shot animal portraiture at the weekend as a sideline. It overtook his life and now does it full time: http://www.nickridley.com/ He has some books out: http://www.nickridley.com/publications.htm Best of luck mate. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Amsterdam's Magnum 60 years exhibition
Thibouille, thanks for the information. Henk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thibouille Sent: zondag 30 maart 2008 12:20 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Amsterdam's Magnum 60 years exhibition Was in Amsterdam a couple days in holiday, weather was crap so no many pictures except consensual souvenirs things. However, the Amsterdams Stedelijk Museum CS has that Magnum exhibition. I have to say it is VERY interesting and well... a bit depressing sometimes but hey those guys aren't in Magnum for nothin'. Full description here: http://www.stedelijk.nl/oc2/page.asp?PageID=1743 I strongly anybody in the area to take a look at it. Definitely worthes it. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESOs: My rock weekend
My friends Monica and Loene did gigs this weekend. I love rock and roll. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_03/08_03_stepfords/index.htm http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_03/08_03_loenedimi/index.htm Forward apologies for the largish galleries. These tend to be proof sheets for the musos as well. D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESOs: My rock weekend
Two good galleries. Interesting colours from the light and some good motion blur shots. Dave On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My friends Monica and Loene did gigs this weekend. I love rock and roll. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_03/08_03_stepfords/index.htm http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_03/08_03_loenedimi/index.htm Forward apologies for the largish galleries. These tend to be proof sheets for the musos as well. D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Get ready to register for the GFM NPW
Here's a heads-up that the registration date for this year's Nature Photography Weekend at Grandfather Mountain is _*THIS TUESDAY*_ April 1st. I imagine it'll sell out on that day or the next at the latest so the early bird gets the great opportunity to get rained upon in North Carolina :) It does seem like the herd of PDML folks will be smaller this year, but that's no reason not to come up the hill. It's truly a wonderful place, even without us. I need to do some repair work and freshening up in PDML West before I can tote her up there and receive visitors... Or even Matt. How does one get the smell of wet riding leathers out of one's car? Get your credit cards out and load the page y'all. CW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Terms of Service
From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/03/28 Fri PM 07:49:43 GMT To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Terms of Service It's this bit that raised the hackles: In addition, you warrant that all moral rights in any uploaded images and materials have been waived. It's new and I'm not entirely sure what they mean by it. your moral rights are your rights of authorship independent of your economic rights over the work. You really don't want to waive them because it gives anybody - anybody - the right to do anything at all with your work. I think that in Europe you cannot waive your moral rights (although you can choose not to enforce them). I am not a lawyer. That's the way it read to me. I might ask them about it but probably I'll just start looking for someone else. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PDML DC Gathering?
The family and I are going up to D.C. for a whirlwind tour of our national history stuff. We'll be staying with my sister-in-law in Rockville MD but I seem to recall several PDML gatherings happening in and around our nation's capitol. I know TV is still up there... Who else is nearby? We'll be there by the evening of April 5th and leaving the following Saturday. Cory -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW
On 3/30/08, Cory Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does one get the smell of wet riding leathers out of one's car? Anti-microbial Febreeze. :-) -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: request for help
Igor, Pentax USA sold me a new cover for the flash front in the PZ-1 days. They fax you a diagram and then you order the parts...not expensive. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 4:47 AM, Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, All, Does somebody have an old Pentax AF-500 FTZ that doesn't work? I've lost the cover for the batter compartment for mine. So, if you have one that you really don't need, - I would be glad to pay some $10-20 for it plus the shipping cost. Ideas where I can get one are also appreciated. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Help Needed: Sliding Bogen tripod legs
Big thanks, for the info, William. When I'm ready to drop-kick my current tripod, I'm going to definitely check out the wood tirpods. I'll let you know what I find. Big Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 8:43 PM Subject: Re: Help Needed: Sliding Bogen tripod legs - Original Message - From: Christine Aguila Subject: Re: Help Needed: Sliding Bogen tripod legs William: As a general rule, do you prefer wood tripods to the other stuff? I've been intrigued by the wood tripod, but don't know much about them. The wood tripod has advantages and disadvantages. They are very good at absorbing vibration, but they tend to be HEAVY when compared to an aluminium tripod or even more, to a carbon fibre tripod of similar height and load carrying ability. I haven't looked to see whats available in woodfor quite some time. I am pretty sure the Zone VI tripods are no longer available new, and I doubt that they are easily found on the used market either. Berlenbach used to be very good, they would be a good brand to look at as well. If you are looking for a high end tripod (wood is definitely high end), then also look at the carbon fibre ones as well. They are almost as good as wood for damping vibration, and weigh a lot less. I don't know about cost comparisons. Gitzo makes good ones, I am sure there are others out there, possibly better or more cost effective than Gizo. I do own a couple of metal tripods, a Montrotto 028 with an 029 (229 now), which has given me little to complain about, other than the lower column stabilizer falling apart in front of Tom Cakalic a few years ago. I never did get it reassembled, I suppose I should. I also have a Manfrotto 055 with what would now be a 115 head. It has the same problem as Jerome's tripod, with the added bonus feature of a self welding head. I did find a grease at the auto parts store that is supposed to prevent dielectric welding. I must see if it fixes that problem sometime. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Earth Hour pix?
Tim: Not bad. Are you still in Hawaii? Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Tim Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 12:53 AM Subject: Earth Hour pix? I mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Hour - ought to be some scope for low-light fun. Here's one: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/03/29/-big/PS080387.jpg [context: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/03/29/Earth-Hour] -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment
- Original Message - From: Tim Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] Awww cuteness overload. -T I know, but I couldn't resist. Thanks for looking. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment
- Original Message - From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reflections, to me are not annoying at all. They tell you its real. That's kinda how I felt too! Thanks for looking. Big Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment
Thanks, Bob. I was hoping folks would feel this way. Thanks for looking. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 7:59 PM Subject: Re: PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment Christine, I think the reflections are a minor disturbance and not really a distraction. The expressions on the faces and story you tell here more than make up for it. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 6:50 PM, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone: I'm very interested in knowing your views on the the following: I shot this photo through a McDonald's window , in addition to catching the main subject of the photo, I caught reflections in the window. I would very much like to know the degree to which these reflections, in your view, greatly distract from the photo. Any other annoyances are of interest as well. K10D, DA* 50-135mm, 135mm, ISO 200, 1/100 sec @ f5.6 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7112178 Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment
Manuel: I was really worried about that orange reflection. It's actually the baseball cap on a man's head, and the man is standing outside of McDonald's. I don't even remember seeing the man when I shot the photo. I was so focused on the moment, as they say. Thanks for looking--and are you new to the list? Are you the one that just sent the hotel shots? If so, welcome to the list. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Manuel Magalhães [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 8:23 PM Subject: RE: PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment Hi Christine, In my opinion it does not distratct from the photo. Th one that could distract a bit more, the orange reflection, can be seen as part of the child jacket. Best regards, Manuel -Mensagem original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Christine Aguila Enviada: sábado, 29 de Março de 2008 23:50 Para: pdml@pdml.net Assunto: PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment Hi Everyone: I'm very interested in knowing your views on the the following: I shot this photo through a McDonald's window , in addition to catching the main subject of the photo, I caught reflections in the window. I would very much like to know the degree to which these reflections, in your view, greatly distract from the photo. Any other annoyances are of interest as well. K10D, DA* 50-135mm, 135mm, ISO 200, 1/100 sec @ f5.6 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7112178 Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1348 - Release Date: 28-03-2008 10:58 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1348 - Release Date: 28-03-2008 10:58 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment
Hi Brian: True enough about the reflections, which is why I gave it that long title. The timing god was looking down on me when I shot this--but for my work, he's got to show up more often. I probably don't pay the gods enough deference--never been in great awe of authority figures. ;-) Thanks for looking. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 8:58 PM Subject: Re: PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment Hi Christine A very appealing image. Perfectly timed. The reflections are a little distracting, mainly because it isn't immediately obvious that they are reflections. It's still a 'keeper' though. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:50:16 -0500, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi Everyone: I'm very interested in knowing your views on the the following: I shot this photo through a McDonald's window , in addition to catching the main subject of the photo, I caught reflections in the window. I would very much like to know the degree to which these reflections, in your view, greatly distract from the photo. Any other annoyances are of interest as well. K10D, DA* 50-135mm, 135mm, ISO 200, 1/100 sec @ f5.6 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7112178 Cheers, Christine -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW
How does one get the smell of wet riding leathers out of one's car? Kind of brings up the question; How does one get the smell of wet riding leathers in ones car? Cory Waters wrote: Here's a heads-up that the registration date for this year's Nature Photography Weekend at Grandfather Mountain is _*THIS TUESDAY*_ April 1st. I imagine it'll sell out on that day or the next at the latest so the early bird gets the great opportunity to get rained upon in North Carolina :) It does seem like the herd of PDML folks will be smaller this year, but that's no reason not to come up the hill. It's truly a wonderful place, even without us. I need to do some repair work and freshening up in PDML West before I can tote her up there and receive visitors... Or even Matt. How does one get the smell of wet riding leathers out of one's car? Get your credit cards out and load the page y'all. CW -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 11:33 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does one get the smell of wet riding leathers out of one's car? Kind of brings up the question; How does one get the smell of wet riding leathers in ones car? My guess would be by giving a rider wearing said leathers a lift in your car. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pets in your home, photos and fee
I recently listened to an interview with a married couple that are professional photographers. Pricing was a big portion of the interview. Based on what I heard and assuming there is no cost-based reason for the $1400 sitting fee, it sounds like the prices may be based on the the photographer's desire to work with affluent customers that have the disposable income to spend $1400 on a sitting fee. It's likely a predictor that they will spend a significant additional amount on more prints and other products after the fact. On the other hand, suppose this were your primary job and you could do 30 of these sittings in a year. After expenses and taxes you might have an annual income of about $30,000. For a family of four in the US, that's barely above the official poverty line. So, they will need significant after-the-sitting sales to get up to a reasonable annual income. These are very rough estimates and could be completely wrong, but it doesn't sound that unreasonable to me. After all, this isn't the typical discount store or shopping mall portrait studio. They going on-site for a time consuming sitting. I wouldn't want to undercut pros that are charging reasonable (and I'm not saying they are) )prices. They are trying to make a living in a very competitive and difficult business. Buy undercutting them, (and I'm not saying you are) you're devaluing every one's work. If you are charging less because you are inexperienced and want to learn, make that clear to your clients. Let them know that in the future your prices will rise with your experience level. Best of luck, GS http://georgesphotos.net On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 7:35 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife works in a Pet Valu food store, and takes in my meager photos of our cats and friends dogs as part of their monthly specials and to help in adding extra photo work my way. I have heard a lot of good comments from these photos, and some of their customers have new dogs and cats and have inquired if i would be available to do a shoot. Of course i am, they just have to get dates organized etc, but i;'m at odds for rates. Just recently in the Toronto Star newspaper, they had a 1/2 page article on a couple of pet photographers scattered around Canada, Toronto, Vancouver and another city i forget. These people were charging upwards of $1400 for the sitting and CD. One was a very experienced person, the other two just getting in to it. I have no intention of charging these rate, but i feel a shoot at a place both owner and animal are comfortabel with, own home, local park etc would be best. Try some posed shots, follow the animal around and grab the animal doing its thing candids. Not sure if i explained that well, but hopefully YKWIM. Travel would be minimal, we are still a small town, but i feel it would be appropriate for my experience, and sense of fair play, that a rate of $50-60 for an hour shoot, and put a CD together add another $50-60 for time, PS work, maybe a bit more for a musical slideshow etc.. Am i in the ball park out am i way out of line to start off Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment
Thanks, Rick. Thanks for looking. And by the way: take your camera to LA. I'm a little surprised you even asked if you should. :-) Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 9:48 PM Subject: Re: PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment Well, it would be better without the reflections, but it's a nice, well-timed shot that is a definite keeper. I wonder how long it will take before someone invents a digital polarizing filter for PS or Lightroom... Rick --- Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone: I'm very interested in knowing your views on the the following: I shot this photo through a McDonald's window , in addition to catching the main subject of the photo, I caught reflections in the window. I would very much like to know the degree to which these reflections, in your view, greatly distract from the photo. Any other annoyances are of interest as well. K10D, DA* 50-135mm, 135mm, ISO 200, 1/100 sec @ f5.6 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7112178 Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML DC Gathering?
Cory Waters wrote: The family and I are going up to D.C. for a whirlwind tour of our national history stuff. We'll be staying with my sister-in-law in Rockville MD but I seem to recall several PDML gatherings happening in and around our nation's capitol. I know TV is still up there... Who else is nearby? We'll be there by the evening of April 5th and leaving the following Saturday. Cory I'd like to get together for a DCPDML gathering. I'll actually be in Delaware from the 5th to the 7th but something during the week should work for me. I've copied Tom Vanveen and Stephen Moore on this email. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment
Thanks for looking, Dave. Like I said before you're a peach! ;-) Big cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 9:40 PM Subject: Re: PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment Cute scene Christine. The reflections aren't distracting to me either. Cheers, Dave On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 7:50 AM, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone: I'm very interested in knowing your views on the the following: I shot this photo through a McDonald's window , in addition to catching the main subject of the photo, I caught reflections in the window. I would very much like to know the degree to which these reflections, in your view, greatly distract from the photo. Any other annoyances are of interest as well. K10D, DA* 50-135mm, 135mm, ISO 200, 1/100 sec @ f5.6 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7112178 Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment
Paul: I can't believe I got this shot. I was just strolling through the neighborhood I caught the image out of the corner of my eye, yanked the camera around, pointed, shot. I got one more shot off, but by then the family huddle had broken up. I was actually across the street too. How I caught this in my peripheral vision goes unanswered. You know, Paul, this was hand-held with the big lens. In all seriousness, I really think your advice has helped a lot, so big thanks. Hope you're having fun with your new big lens! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 10:07 PM Subject: Re: PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment Too good to pass up, reflections or not. And in many ways, they add to the poignancy of the scene. Excellent. A telling moment. Superior work. Paul On Mar 29, 2008, at 10:40 PM, David Savage wrote: Cute scene Christine. The reflections aren't distracting to me either. Cheers, Dave On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 7:50 AM, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone: I'm very interested in knowing your views on the the following: I shot this photo through a McDonald's window , in addition to catching the main subject of the photo, I caught reflections in the window. I would very much like to know the degree to which these reflections, in your view, greatly distract from the photo. Any other annoyances are of interest as well. K10D, DA* 50-135mm, 135mm, ISO 200, 1/100 sec @ f5.6 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7112178 Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Terms of Service
Adobe's recently taken a bit of criticism for the Terms of Service for the new on-line editor, Photoshop Express. At first publication the TOS basically gives Adobe the rights to the photos in your galleries. This was quickly brought to Adobe's attention and they are re-writing the terms. John Nack gives details in his blog. http://blogs.adobe.com/jnack/2008/03/a_note_about_ps.html The comments on his blog post are clear. A lot of people would like to use the new editor and free gallery space, but will not do so until the terms change. GS http://georgesphotos.net On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 8:08 AM, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy, folks, We've had several discussions over the years about the terms of use of various web sites and services. Well, I've been planning to put together a very short run of a small photo book from my recent trip to Bulgaria. I only plan a run of maybe 30 because they're for gifts to people over there and family here. So I've been looking at self publishing web sites like Lulu and Blurb and such. A friend of mine recently got involved with a multi-level marketing company called Creative Memories. Their focus is more on electronic scrapbooking, but they have a service that would be appropriate for what I'm doing. It's a little pricey, but I considered doing it through them to help her out. Being a bit sensitive to intellectual property issues, I read the Terms of Use (ToU). It contains the following section: Idea submission statement Any ideas, proposals, and/or other information submitted or collected on this site shall be considered non-confidential. By submitting information to this site, or directly to Creative Memories, you agree that Creative Memories shall not be under any obligation of confidentiality or non-use, express or implied, with respect to any submissions, and Creative Memories may disclose or use any submission for any purpose whatsoever, at its sole discretion, with no obligation, express or implied, to compensate or work with the person or entity that supplied the information, idea and/or proposal in any manner. Now, that's a pretty far reaching claim. Here it is again, elided to focus on what I have a problem with. ... By submitting information to this site ... you agree that ... and Creative Memories may ... use any submission for any purpose whatsoever ... with no obligation ... to compensate or work with the person or entity that supplied [it] ... I've contacted them officially asking them just exactly what they intended to say here, in case it's less than the your stuff is ours if you pay us to print it interpretation I give it. No answer. I've also contacted them unofficially through the member/dealer network. The answer from that side is that it's so they can use excerpts of your stuff in their marketing material without having to find you, work with you, or pay you, though it wasn't phrased quite that way. Personally, I find this clause and the unofficial attitude quite disturbing. Am I overreacting? -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESOs: My rock weekend
Hi Derby: I think the shots in the 1st gallery are better overall--as a gallery, but I like some of the blurred shots in the second gallery too. If I form a rock band, you're going to be my photographer! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 6:29 AM Subject: GESOs: My rock weekend My friends Monica and Loene did gigs this weekend. I love rock and roll. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_03/08_03_stepfords/index.htm http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08_03/08_03_loenedimi/index.htm Forward apologies for the largish galleries. These tend to be proof sheets for the musos as well. D -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW
David Savage wrote: On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 11:33 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does one get the smell of wet riding leathers out of one's car? Kind of brings up the question; How does one get the smell of wet riding leathers in ones car? My guess would be by giving a rider wearing said leathers a lift in your car. Cheers, Dave What happens on the mountain should stay on the mountain but unfortunately it also lingers in one's wife's car for months :) CW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW
David Savage wrote: On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 11:33 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does one get the smell of wet riding leathers out of one's car? Kind of brings up the question; How does one get the smell of wet riding leathers in ones car? My guess would be by giving a rider wearing said leathers a lift in your car. Cheers, Dave How obvious... (I expected, ah, different from you Dave). -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW
On 3/30/08, Cory Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What happens on the mountain should stay on the mountain but unfortunately it also lingers in one's wife's car for months :) Did you remember to clean out the cormorant feathers? -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA35/2.8 Macro Samples (unofficial)
- Original Message - From: Thibouille Subject: DA35/2.8 Macro Samples (unofficial) http://insomnia.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2008/03/da_35mmf28_macr.html Seems it boasts nice bokeh and AFAIR its price is very OK. It isn't much fast (2.8) but it is a normal lens (more or less as a 50mm on 35mm camera) on APS-C and provides direct 1:1 macro. Oh, it is a limited, too. That's nice, but they need to start putting some faster primes on the market. There isn't much advantage in buying a 35mm f/2.8 lens when the 16-50 is also an f/2.8, unless all you are going to do with the 35mm lens is macro work at closer ranges than the 16-50 will allow. I would really like a fast standard prime, something like a 30-35mm f/1.4. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Macro lens conundrum
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: Macro lens conundrum Hmm. I have two macro lenses and I use both of them quite a lot. Yet I don't shoot much macro. What am I doing right? You probably have had the good sense to keep the number of lenses you own down to a reasonable number. If I am shooting macro, I reach for a macro lens. If I am not shooting macro, I reach for something else in the same focal length. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pets in your home, photos and fee
- Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Pets in your home, photos and fee My wife works in a Pet Valu food store, and takes in my meager photos of our cats and friends dogs as part of their monthly specials and to help in adding extra photo work my way. I have heard a lot of good comments from these photos, and some of their customers have new dogs and cats and have inquired if i would be available to do a shoot. Of course i am, they just have to get dates organized etc, but i;'m at odds for rates. Just recently in the Toronto Star newspaper, they had a 1/2 page article on a couple of pet photographers scattered around Canada, Toronto, Vancouver and another city i forget. These people were charging upwards of $1400 for the sitting and CD. One was a very experienced person, the other two just getting in to it. I have no intention of charging these rate, but i feel a shoot at a place both owner and animal are comfortabel with, own home, local park etc would be best. Try some posed shots, follow the animal around and grab the animal doing its thing candids. Not sure if i explained that well, but hopefully YKWIM. Travel would be minimal, we are still a small town, but i feel it would be appropriate for my experience, and sense of fair play, that a rate of $50-60 for an hour shoot, and put a CD together add another $50-60 for time, PS work, maybe a bit more for a musical slideshow etc.. Am i in the ball park out am i way out of line to start off I don't differentiate between dogs, cats, and people as far as portrait work goes. $60.00 per hour for time, whether it be shooting or post processing is reasonable. If you are supplying your own backdrops, make sure you have a cleaning clause in your contract. You may be able to get away with mopping dog piss off your muslin and then taking it to a posrtait session for people, but I guarantee that if you put another dog on it ever, you will not get any pictures of the dog doing anything other than sniffing the spot that was messed on. Cat effluent is even worse. Depending on the breed of dog, you will find that customer expectations are very different. The owner of a gun dog will probably want a very different style of picture than the owner of a toy breed. As an example, my dogs, as handsome as they are, look far more impressive in any picture in this series: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/beachday/beach_fun.html than they do in this: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/fellas/portraits/jnb2938.html. Getting a dog to chase something is a great way to get action pictures, even if all they are chasing is their boss. However, yer basic Chihuahua owner is more likely to want something like this: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/chi3287.jpg Good luck William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Whiteout conditions
Easter traditions in Norway http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=370402 K10D, DA16-50 f:16, 1/180s Comments are welcome. DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA35/2.8 Macro Samples (unofficial)
On Mar 30, 2008, at 7:28 AM, William Robb wrote: http://insomnia.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2008/03/da_35mmf28_macr.html Seems it boasts nice bokeh and AFAIR its price is very OK. It isn't much fast (2.8) but it is a normal lens (more or less as a 50mm on 35mm camera) on APS-C and provides direct 1:1 macro. Oh, it is a limited, too. That's nice, but they need to start putting some faster primes on the market. There isn't much advantage in buying a 35mm f/2.8 lens when the 16-50 is also an f/ 2.8, unless all you are going to do with the 35mm lens is macro work at closer ranges than the 16-50 will allow. I would really like a fast standard prime, something like a 30-35mm f/1.4. Wasn't a fast 30mm servo lens on the latest roadmap? and isn't the 31/1.8 Ltd still available? and the 35/2? Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA35/2.8 Macro Samples (unofficial)
As a normal lens the FA 35 f2.0 would seem to be a better choice, it's a stop faster and about $300 less expensive, (and still available from places like BH photo new), and I like a bit more working distance than a normal macro usually gives, so though I don't have one, the DFA 100mm seems to me to be a better choice for macro. On the other hand neither is a Limited. Toine wrote: I will have my first Limited in the very near future! Can't wait. On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://insomnia.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2008/03/da_35mmf28_macr.html Seems it boasts nice bokeh and AFAIR its price is very OK. It isn't much fast (2.8) but it is a normal lens (more or less as a 50mm on 35mm camera) on APS-C and provides direct 1:1 macro. Oh, it is a limited, too. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Whiteout conditions
Not a lot of detail, though it does explain the tradition of coloring eggs. DagT wrote: Easter traditions in Norway http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=370402 K10D, DA16-50 f:16, 1/180s Comments are welcome. DagT -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Terms of Service
Doug, Although I don't have any English/American background but I think you're not overreacting. These folks are hmmm how to put it - hmmm, I wouldn't deal with them. Boris Doug Franklin wrote: Howdy, folks, We've had several discussions over the years about the terms of use of various web sites and services. Well, I've been planning to put together a very short run of a small photo book from my recent trip to Bulgaria. I only plan a run of maybe 30 because they're for gifts to people over there and family here. So I've been looking at self publishing web sites like Lulu and Blurb and such. A friend of mine recently got involved with a multi-level marketing company called Creative Memories. Their focus is more on electronic scrapbooking, but they have a service that would be appropriate for what I'm doing. It's a little pricey, but I considered doing it through them to help her out. Being a bit sensitive to intellectual property issues, I read the Terms of Use (ToU). It contains the following section: Idea submission statement Any ideas, proposals, and/or other information submitted or collected on this site shall be considered non-confidential. By submitting information to this site, or directly to Creative Memories, you agree that Creative Memories shall not be under any obligation of confidentiality or non-use, express or implied, with respect to any submissions, and Creative Memories may disclose or use any submission for any purpose whatsoever, at its sole discretion, with no obligation, express or implied, to compensate or work with the person or entity that supplied the information, idea and/or proposal in any manner. Now, that's a pretty far reaching claim. Here it is again, elided to focus on what I have a problem with. ... By submitting information to this site ... you agree that ... and Creative Memories may ... use any submission for any purpose whatsoever ... with no obligation ... to compensate or work with the person or entity that supplied [it] ... I've contacted them officially asking them just exactly what they intended to say here, in case it's less than the your stuff is ours if you pay us to print it interpretation I give it. No answer. I've also contacted them unofficially through the member/dealer network. The answer from that side is that it's so they can use excerpts of your stuff in their marketing material without having to find you, work with you, or pay you, though it wasn't phrased quite that way. Personally, I find this clause and the unofficial attitude quite disturbing. Am I overreacting? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Whiteout conditions
Really, I am in no way competent to say if this is a good picture or not, but what happened to me is that on my 15 screen, Safari not running full-screen, only the top-left three-quarters of the image showed up. I wondered why it wasn't loading. Then I thought I had some smears on my display, and only then did I realize the picture was actually loaded when I scrolled around to find the two persons in the lower right corner. And I am still not sure what the actual motive is, besides the two persons... mountains? Is it supposed to look like that? Marcus Easter traditions in Norway http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=370402 K10D, DA16-50 f:16, 1/180s Comments are welcome. DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW
Cory Waters wrote: Get your credit cards out and load the page y'all. And the page would be? Ah, yes: http://www.grandfather.com/planning_your_visit/events/nphoto.php Once again Doug Brewer and I will be judging the contest. And unlike the Pentax Photo Gallery, we'll tell you why your pictures suck! ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: System Requirements for Pentax PhotoLab 3.5
It's currently running on a 750MHz AMD, 16Mb ASUS AGP card and 40Gb HDD (about 95% full) playing Windows ME, so it should run on anything short of steam power. Takes about a minute per file to process from .PEF to either .tif or .jpg P. J. Alling wrote: Says it all actually. I'm planning what I need to do when I buy a K20D. I haven't been able to find any information on minimum system requirements to run this software. (Pentax doesn't offer it as an upgrade to users of lesser cameras yet). Has anyone here even tried it? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Got it :-)
Congratulations. I am not sure that two more DA* zooms will make you significantly happier, but I digress ;-). Boris-with-his-limited-gear-;-) Tim Øsleby wrote: I'm having it in my lap while writing this. Every now and then my right arm goes down cuddling it. So, now I'm one laptop and two DA* zooms away from being complete as a human being. So far I am happy. Dynamic range seems improved. But, most likely I'm fooling myself. I think it because more accurate exposure gives me less problems with the highlights. For obvious reasons I can't compare directly with the K10D, but AF seems faster too. I did a informal test of accuracy at one meter. Spot on at every FL with the 18-250. I will do a new test at infinity later today. So far it is hard to not like this new tool. bought it from the local pusher, who makes his living as a photographer. He was impressed by the build quality. So I would not be surprised if I saw a Pentax on display there later. MartimTim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment
Hi Christine, No, I am not new to the list. I have been lurking around for quite a while. I have been learning for you guys most of the time and waiting for what I think was the right timing to move to digital, with the arriving of the k20d. So now I will be more active than just read and give my opinion on other's photo. Thanks for your kind welcome. And yes Ia ma the one with the hotel shots and the post First Digital Experience. Best regards, Manuel -Mensagem original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Christine Aguila Enviada: domingo, 30 de Março de 2008 15:34 Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Assunto: Re: PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment Manuel: I was really worried about that orange reflection. It's actually the baseball cap on a man's head, and the man is standing outside of McDonald's. I don't even remember seeing the man when I shot the photo. I was so focused on the moment, as they say. Thanks for looking--and are you new to the list? Are you the one that just sent the hotel shots? If so, welcome to the list. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Manuel Magalhães [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 8:23 PM Subject: RE: PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment Hi Christine, In my opinion it does not distratct from the photo. Th one that could distract a bit more, the orange reflection, can be seen as part of the child jacket. Best regards, Manuel -Mensagem original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Christine Aguila Enviada: sábado, 29 de Março de 2008 23:50 Para: pdml@pdml.net Assunto: PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment Hi Everyone: I'm very interested in knowing your views on the the following: I shot this photo through a McDonald's window , in addition to catching the main subject of the photo, I caught reflections in the window. I would very much like to know the degree to which these reflections, in your view, greatly distract from the photo. Any other annoyances are of interest as well. K10D, DA* 50-135mm, 135mm, ISO 200, 1/100 sec @ f5.6 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7112178 Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1348 - Release Date: 28-03-2008 10:58 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1348 - Release Date: 28-03-2008 10:58 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1350 - Release Date: 30-03-2008 12:32 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1350 - Release Date: 30-03-2008 12:32 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Whiteout conditions
DagT wrote: Easter traditions in Norway http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=370402 Cool! I really like that one! Reminds me a lot of oriental art, with tiny human figures dwarfed by nature. The subtlety of the background is beautiful. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW
Mark Roberts wrote: Cory Waters wrote: Get your credit cards out and load the page y'all. And the page would be? Ah, yes: http://www.grandfather.com/planning_your_visit/events/nphoto.php Once again Doug Brewer and I will be judging the contest. And unlike the Pentax Photo Gallery, we'll tell you why your pictures suck! ;-) You don't have to tell me why my pictures suck, I already know. (Hey, wait a minute, I think that's Frank's line). -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: System Requirements for Pentax PhotoLab 3.5
Pentax seems to imply that ver 3.5 won't run on anything earlier than XP or Vista. The fact that you could get it to install on ME is comforting to know. Thanks mike wilson wrote: It's currently running on a 750MHz AMD, 16Mb ASUS AGP card and 40Gb HDD (about 95% full) playing Windows ME, so it should run on anything short of steam power. Takes about a minute per file to process from .PEF to either .tif or .jpg P. J. Alling wrote: Says it all actually. I'm planning what I need to do when I buy a K20D. I haven't been able to find any information on minimum system requirements to run this software. (Pentax doesn't offer it as an upgrade to users of lesser cameras yet). Has anyone here even tried it? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Whiteout conditions
Hmm..? Jack --- DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Easter traditions in Norway http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=370402 K10D, DA16-50 f:16, 1/180s Comments are welcome. DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Macro lens conundrum
On Mar 30, 2008, at 7:33 AM, William Robb wrote: Hmm. I have two macro lenses and I use both of them quite a lot. Yet I don't shoot much macro. What am I doing right? You probably have had the good sense to keep the number of lenses you own down to a reasonable number. If I am shooting macro, I reach for a macro lens. If I am not shooting macro, I reach for something else in the same focal length. It's true that I see no point to accumulating a bazillion lenses I don't use. This LBA stuff is stupid. I have eight lenses for my Pentax kit and five lenses for my 4/3 kit. Three of the eight for the Pentax I don't use much (the zooms). My equipment cabinet feels over full even with that. That said, I have several other options in the same focal lengths as my macro lenses for each system. I just like using the macros a good bit of the time because of the freedom they allow in focusing flexibility. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW
On 3/30/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once again Doug Brewer and I will be judging the contest. And unlike the Pentax Photo Gallery, we'll tell you why your pictures suck! They all need more cowbell^Wwavy green lines. -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Whiteout conditions
I'm sitting at a crappy monitor (long story), so I'm afraid this is partly wasted on me. But after a while it grows on me. I can at least see something :-) I like what I see, and I like the idea. Does it set my mind free? Partly. So, I'd say it works. MaritimTim 2008/3/30, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Easter traditions in Norway http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=370402 K10D, DA16-50 f:16, 1/180s Comments are welcome. DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Whiteout conditions
DagT escribió: Easter traditions in Norway http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=370402 K10D, DA16-50 f:16, 1/180s Comments are welcome. DagT I like it, a very subtle photo. Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Killing Fields' hero passes away...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080330/ap_on_re_us/obit_dith_pran -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
April 5 - Global Shoot Day
I apologize if this has been already discussed on the list. (I do not see any messages on this topic but as it happens sometimes, I might've missed some.) Global shoot Day on April 5, 2008, Organized by Pentaxforums: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/latest-board-news/23421-announcing-pentaxium-april-5th-2008-a.html short URL: http://preview.tinyurl.com/38clxj and recognized by Pentax USA: http://www.pentaximaging.com/footer/news_media_article?ArticleId=10518486 I remember a few list members were mentioning their trips on April 5 (Cory, Christian), and possible DCPDML.. There you go - you have a good double shoot day. :-) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
A PESO recycled as plugging
Pretty sure I've shown this before, but it's probably long ago. It's also in the Pentax gallery. Today, however, it earned me a sale at a trade fair. http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/03/pleasant-surprise.html Didn't make me rich, but I was the only of five photographers who sold anything at all. :-) Best, Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Whiteout conditions
Thanks for challenging my mind and eyes. -T On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 8:23 AM, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Easter traditions in Norway http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=370402 K10D, DA16-50 f:16, 1/180s Comments are welcome. DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A PESO recycled as plugging
Jostein: That's a very lovely photograph!!! And congrats on your sale. Big cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 12:23 PM Subject: A PESO recycled as plugging Pretty sure I've shown this before, but it's probably long ago. It's also in the Pentax gallery. Today, however, it earned me a sale at a trade fair. http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/03/pleasant-surprise.html Didn't make me rich, but I was the only of five photographers who sold anything at all. :-) Best, Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Whiteout conditions
Just what whiteout conditions are like. Well rendered, Dag. Those who don't get this one should go to more often to their nearest skiing resort... :-) Cheers, Jostein 2008/3/30, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Easter traditions in Norway http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=370402 K10D, DA16-50 f:16, 1/180s Comments are welcome. DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA35/2.8 Macro Samples (unofficial)
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: DA35/2.8 Macro Samples (unofficial) Wasn't a fast 30mm servo lens on the latest roadmap? and isn't the 31/1.8 Ltd still available? and the 35/2? There is a 30mm lens on the roadmap, what speed it turns out to be is anyone's guess. I'd be willing to bet it will be ~f/2.4 though, based on recent prime lens offerings. For me, this is not really a fast lens. I have both the 31/1.8 and A and FA 35/2 lenses, neither is as fast as I would like. I really like f/1.4ish standard lenses. I am pretty sure I am in a minority though. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Macro lens conundrum
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: Macro lens conundrum This LBA stuff is stupid. No more so than collecting stamps or coins, or classic cars, really. Don't let narrow mindedness blind you to discounting what others take joy in. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: System Requirements for Pentax PhotoLab 3.5
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/03/30 Sun PM 04:55:48 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: System Requirements for Pentax PhotoLab 3.5 Pentax seems to imply that ver 3.5 won't run on anything earlier than XP or Vista. The fact that you could get it to install on ME is comforting to know. Thanks IIRC, that implication is there (XP, anyway) for all versions. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA35/2.8 Macro Samples (unofficial)
In my part of the world the FA35 is about the same price as the DA35 macro. I do have a F100 macro. The 35 should have more dof and also a nice Limited walk around lens. The 16-50 is about twice the price. I think I want it... On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 6:34 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a normal lens the FA 35 f2.0 would seem to be a better choice, it's a stop faster and about $300 less expensive, (and still available from places like BH photo new), and I like a bit more working distance than a normal macro usually gives, so though I don't have one, the DFA 100mm seems to me to be a better choice for macro. On the other hand neither is a Limited. Toine wrote: I will have my first Limited in the very near future! Can't wait. On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://insomnia.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2008/03/da_35mmf28_macr.html Seems it boasts nice bokeh and AFAIR its price is very OK. It isn't much fast (2.8) but it is a normal lens (more or less as a 50mm on 35mm camera) on APS-C and provides direct 1:1 macro. Oh, it is a limited, too. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Toine http://www.repiuk.nl -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA35/2.8 Macro Samples (unofficial)
On Mar 30, 2008, at 11:09 AM, William Robb wrote: Wasn't a fast 30mm servo lens on the latest roadmap? and isn't the 31/1.8 Ltd still available? and the 35/2? There is a 30mm lens on the roadmap, what speed it turns out to be is anyone's guess. I'd be willing to bet it will be ~f/2.4 though, based on recent prime lens offerings. For me, this is not really a fast lens. I have both the 31/1.8 and A and FA 35/2 lenses, neither is as fast as I would like. I really like f/1.4ish standard lenses. I am pretty sure I am in a minority though. I like fast lenses too ... that's why I bought the Leica 25/1.4 for the L1 ... and why I have the 43/1.9 for the Pentax. Between f/1.4 and f/2 is a stop, nice but not critical in my definition of fast. That stop costs a lot in size, weight, money etc while usually not providing all that much additional in way of performance. Particularly when we have cameras that can support ISO 800 to 3200 with such quality as we do now. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Whiteout conditions
Very interesting minimalism! G On Mar 30, 2008, at 8:23 AM, DagT wrote: Easter traditions in Norway http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildekritikk/vis_bilde.cgi?id=370402 K10D, DA16-50 f:16, 1/180s -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Macro lens conundrum
On Mar 30, 2008, at 11:16 AM, William Robb wrote: This LBA stuff is stupid. No more so than collecting stamps or coins, or classic cars, really. Don't let narrow mindedness blind you to discounting what others take joy in. I'm not narrow minded, I don't care if you're an equipment collector and you enjoy it. I celebrate your joy in owning lots and lots of equipment. Just like I celebrate the joy others take in collecting stamps and classic cars, or other what not. I'm a photographer, however, and I see camera equipment as a means to an end ... nothing more and nothing less. Even with that, IMO a lens buying addiction is stupid and bespeaks a lack of consciousness, deliberate intent: it says the activity is a compulsion. Collecting lenses to service a joy in equipment collecting is not stupid, nor is it an addiction. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA35/2.8 Macro Samples (unofficial)
On 3/30/08, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: DA35/2.8 Macro Samples (unofficial) Wasn't a fast 30mm servo lens on the latest roadmap? and isn't the 31/1.8 Ltd still available? and the 35/2? There is a 30mm lens on the roadmap, what speed it turns out to be is anyone's guess. I'd be willing to bet it will be ~f/2.4 though, based on recent prime lens offerings. For me, this is not really a fast lens. I have both the 31/1.8 and A and FA 35/2 lenses, neither is as fast as I would like. I really like f/1.4ish standard lenses. I am pretty sure I am in a minority though. William Robb It's a DA* and the only other DA* short prime on the horizon is the 55mm f1.4 SDM. I'm expecting similar specs for this one (otherwise just buy the 31 Limited). -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pets in your home, photos and fee
I wouldn't want to undercut pros that are charging reasonable (and I'm not saying they are) )prices. They are trying to make a living in a very competitive and difficult business. I disagree with that line of thinking. The open market is based on competition. IMHO, it's within an individual's right to charge whatever they want... or to charge nothing at all if they choose. It's not his responsibility to ensure that industry standards are upheld and that others in the same field of work can clear their desired profit margin. Quite the contrary, it's up to them (those who charge more) to justify their prices in a market when every tom, dick, and hank have a digital camera and are willing to give it a go for substantially less. I guess I believe that the photographers prerogative, quality of the product and demand should drive the price... not industry price fixing. An example of this is wedding photography here my area. If I can't find someone who wants to pay $1000 for my wedding photography services, then chances are that I don't have $1000 material. LIkewise, I know (of) several photogs that charge $3500+ just to shoot the wedding (i.e., no product included)... yet they don't seem to be the least bit concerned with the seemingly countless number of wannabe's on craigslist (for example) that are giving away their services for next to nothing. At the end of the day, their product speaks for itself: Pay my fee and get lesser quality. Whether by demand, supply, ambition, or plain old weeding out, the market will correct everything in the end. It's an interesting debate, nonetheless. I wouldn't be surprised if most photogs agree with the price-fixing mentality, but personally I just don't buy it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA35/2.8 Macro Samples (unofficial)
- Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: DA35/2.8 Macro Samples (unofficial) There is a 30mm lens on the roadmap, what speed it turns out to be is anyone's guess. I'd be willing to bet it will be ~f/2.4 though, based on recent prime lens offerings. For me, this is not really a fast lens. I have both the 31/1.8 and A and FA 35/2 lenses, neither is as fast as I would like. I really like f/1.4ish standard lenses. I am pretty sure I am in a minority though. William Robb It's a DA* and the only other DA* short prime on the horizon is the 55mm f1.4 SDM. I'm expecting similar specs for this one (otherwise just buy the 31 Limited). Apparently, you missed the part where I already have a 31, but would really like a faster prime in that range. I couldn't wait for the 55, and so bought the Nokton 58, which is a wonderful lens. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA35/2.8 Macro Samples (unofficial)
- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: DA35/2.8 Macro Samples (unofficial) I like fast lenses too ... that's why I bought the Leica 25/1.4 for the L1 ... and why I have the 43/1.9 for the Pentax. Between f/1.4 and f/2 is a stop, nice but not critical in my definition of fast. That stop costs a lot in size, weight, money etc while usually not providing all that much additional in way of performance. Particularly when we have cameras that can support ISO 800 to 3200 with such quality as we do now. The extra stop of speed is a nice complement to the high ISO support. That extra stop gives the auto focus a lot more to work with. When I bought my 50mm f/1.2 lens, it wasn't because I intended to shoot at f1.2, it was because I wanted all the screen brightness I could get for focusing at dimly lit venues, and I found that the 1/3 stop of viewfinder brightness it gave me over an f/1.4 lens was of benefit. Your definiton of fast matters to me about as much as my definition of it matters to you, so there really is no basis for your pushing your definitions down anyone's throat. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Help Needed: Sliding Bogen tripod legs
So it's nothing like this?: http://www.manfrotto.com/Jahia/spareparts/site/manfrotto/pid/751 I suppose that it is, but I guess my point was that everything is already tight, and the problem has not be remedied. And so I'm hesitant to take it apart just for the sake of taking it apart. I see the value of this in the snap-lock design that that William mentioned, but not so much for this one. But it's very possible that I have no clue what I'm talking about... Manfrotto sent me a we'll get back to you email... but no definitive answer yet. Nonetheless, at the end of the day if I prove to be clueless and just have to adjust and tighten things more, then I would not be surprised. Thanks either way, David. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Macro lens conundrum
I visited a neighbor who is a member of the Chicago Corvette Club yesterday. He showed us 3 Corvettes in his 2 car garage. One was on a lift 4.5 feet off the ground and the second was under it. Lenses are a cheap hobby... Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 30, 2008, at 11:16 AM, William Robb wrote: This LBA stuff is stupid. No more so than collecting stamps or coins, or classic cars, really. Don't let narrow mindedness blind you to discounting what others take joy in. I'm not narrow minded, I don't care if you're an equipment collector and you enjoy it. I celebrate your joy in owning lots and lots of equipment. Just like I celebrate the joy others take in collecting stamps and classic cars, or other what not. I'm a photographer, however, and I see camera equipment as a means to an end ... nothing more and nothing less. Even with that, IMO a lens buying addiction is stupid and bespeaks a lack of consciousness, deliberate intent: it says the activity is a compulsion. Collecting lenses to service a joy in equipment collecting is not stupid, nor is it an addiction. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - A snowfall to save the season
Thanks to all who bothered to comment and/or have a look. Dave and Christine: Thanks! Much appreciated. Tim: It's quite nice and regular, but the centre of the crystal is a bit off-base. Mike: Keep that thought, but decrease the speed... :-) Christian: Thanks a lot! That's high praise indeed. Paul: Winter can be long sometimes. But personally I'd prefer a slightly longer winter with snow and cold clear days over sleet, slush and continuous cloud blankets for months at a time. Jostein Christian wrote: That's a great shot! Very Cassino worthy! Paul wrote: Super shot. A near perfect snow crystal. Consider yourself lucky on the weather. We've had a huge amount of snow here in michigan, near the record. And it's been quite cold. Hope to get some spring soon. Tim Ø wrote: This must be the most symmetric snowflake ever recorded on any media. Interesting. Dave Brooks wrote: Agreed [with Christian]. Nice blue colour. Mike W. wrote: Looks like you have that technique nailed down. Excellent picture and an unusual shape, too. I have a mental picture of you running around with the slide trying to get _that_ flake.. 8- Christine wrote: Very Lovely, Jostein. Enjoyed seeing this. My husband really liked it too. 2008/3/28, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This year has been very meagre for snow crystal photography around here, but last Monday it all came together. So here's one sample of this year's quite small, but still existant, production: Blogpost: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/03/snowfall-to-save-season.html JPEG only: http://bp1.blogger.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/R-wYmC6LzCI/AIc/tp7XlxUiOOo/s1600-h/20080324-0040.jpg Best, Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO-- New Music with Old Lenses
I've really been enjoying live music photography lately, especially with these old Super-Takumar and S-M-C Takumar lenses (50 1.4 and 105 2.8). Here's another sample: http://www.michaelhamilton.ca/2008/03/30/jason-collett-starlite-room- march-25-2008/ Enjoy! Mike -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Help Needed: Sliding Bogen tripod legs
- Original Message - From: Jerome Subject: Re: Help Needed: Sliding Bogen tripod legs So it's nothing like this?: http://www.manfrotto.com/Jahia/spareparts/site/manfrotto/pid/751 I suppose that it is, but I guess my point was that everything is already tight, and the problem has not be remedied. And so I'm hesitant to take it apart just for the sake of taking it apart. I see the value of this in the snap-lock design that that William mentioned, but not so much for this one. But it's very possible that I have no clue what I'm talking about... Manfrotto sent me a we'll get back to you email... but no definitive answer yet. Nonetheless, at the end of the day if I prove to be clueless and just have to adjust and tighten things more, then I would not be surprised. Thanks either way, David. Something you could try (though I wouldn't trust the life of a 400/2.8 to this) is to take the legs apart and thoroughly clean them with acetone or some other powerful and non residual cleaner/degreaser. I'd clean the leg locks too, but do test any solvents on some part that isn't going to render the entire rig useless if it turns out that it melts plastic. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA35/2.8 Macro Samples (unofficial)
On 3/30/08, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: DA35/2.8 Macro Samples (unofficial) There is a 30mm lens on the roadmap, what speed it turns out to be is anyone's guess. I'd be willing to bet it will be ~f/2.4 though, based on recent prime lens offerings. For me, this is not really a fast lens. I have both the 31/1.8 and A and FA 35/2 lenses, neither is as fast as I would like. I really like f/1.4ish standard lenses. I am pretty sure I am in a minority though. William Robb It's a DA* and the only other DA* short prime on the horizon is the 55mm f1.4 SDM. I'm expecting similar specs for this one (otherwise just buy the 31 Limited). Apparently, you missed the part where I already have a 31, but would really like a faster prime in that range. I couldn't wait for the 55, and so bought the Nokton 58, which is a wonderful lens. William Robb No, I didn't. I was making a general comment about buying the 31 (from Pentax's point of view). I expect the 30 to be an f1.4 like the DA* 55mm f1.4 SDM. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Macro lens conundrum
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Macro lens conundrum I visited a neighbor who is a member of the Chicago Corvette Club yesterday. He showed us 3 Corvettes in his 2 car garage. One was on a lift 4.5 feet off the ground and the second was under it. Lenses are a cheap hobby... The problem seems to lie in the definition of collecting. I'm not quite certain what differentiates the collector who buys nice glass for the pleasure of ownership from the retard who buys nice glass for the pleasure of ownership. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: April 5 - Global Shoot Day - 'Vette Fest
As it happens, I agreed to help a local Corvette club with their entry in a show this weekend. I planned to shoot cars of the local members. Any thoughts or suggestions would be welcomed. I learned these guys are kind of picky about the whole thing when they started talking about rating the cars on a 1,000 point scale and taking Friday afternoon and evening to clean the car up after the 10 mile drive to the convention center. My son has a '75 he is entering, after spending the week off from work trying to get the finishing touches on his restoration. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Igor Roshchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I apologize if this has been already discussed on the list. (I do not see any messages on this topic but as it happens sometimes, I might've missed some.) Global shoot Day on April 5, 2008, Organized by Pentaxforums: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/latest-board-news/23421-announcing-pentaxium-april-5th-2008-a.html short URL: http://preview.tinyurl.com/38clxj and recognized by Pentax USA: http://www.pentaximaging.com/footer/news_media_article?ArticleId=10518486 I remember a few list members were mentioning their trips on April 5 (Cory, Christian), and possible DCPDML.. There you go - you have a good double shoot day. :-) Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Macro lens conundrum
Op Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:38:36 +0200 schreef William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Macro lens conundrum I visited a neighbor who is a member of the Chicago Corvette Club yesterday. He showed us 3 Corvettes in his 2 car garage. One was on a lift 4.5 feet off the ground and the second was under it. Lenses are a cheap hobby... The problem seems to lie in the definition of collecting. I'm not quite certain what differentiates the collector who buys nice glass for the pleasure of ownership from the retard who buys nice glass for the pleasure of ownership. Collectors are white pipe-smoking males in their fifties. The rest are retards. -- Ciao, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Macro lens conundrum
My son says he hasn't started the '69 Corvette on the top of the lift in the past 3 years. Perhap some of the pleasure is knowing you own it and can use it if you want to. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 2:38 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Macro lens conundrum I visited a neighbor who is a member of the Chicago Corvette Club yesterday. He showed us 3 Corvettes in his 2 car garage. One was on a lift 4.5 feet off the ground and the second was under it. Lenses are a cheap hobby... The problem seems to lie in the definition of collecting. I'm not quite certain what differentiates the collector who buys nice glass for the pleasure of ownership from the retard who buys nice glass for the pleasure of ownership. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA35/2.8 Macro Samples (unofficial)
Den 30. mars. 2008 kl. 21.42 skrev Adam Maas: On 3/30/08, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: DA35/2.8 Macro Samples (unofficial) There is a 30mm lens on the roadmap, what speed it turns out to be is anyone's guess. I'd be willing to bet it will be ~f/2.4 though, based on recent prime lens offerings. For me, this is not really a fast lens. I have both the 31/1.8 and A and FA 35/2 lenses, neither is as fast as I would like. I really like f/1.4ish standard lenses. I am pretty sure I am in a minority though. William Robb It's a DA* and the only other DA* short prime on the horizon is the 55mm f1.4 SDM. I'm expecting similar specs for this one (otherwise just buy the 31 Limited). Apparently, you missed the part where I already have a 31, but would really like a faster prime in that range. I couldn't wait for the 55, and so bought the Nokton 58, which is a wonderful lens. William Robb No, I didn't. I was making a general comment about buying the 31 (from Pentax's point of view). I expect the 30 to be an f1.4 like the DA* 55mm f1.4 SDM. So do I, and I´ve preordered both. From the current DA-lenses it looks like the Limiteds are compact and beautiful, but the DA*-lenses have SDM, wide apertures and weather sealing. DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA35/2.8 Macro Samples (unofficial)
- Original Message - From: Adam Maas Subject: Re: DA35/2.8 Macro Samples (unofficial) No, I didn't. I was making a general comment about buying the 31 (from Pentax's point of view). I expect the 30 to be an f1.4 like the DA* 55mm f1.4 SDM. I would seriusly consider a 30/1.4, and would even consider letting my 31 go to finance it, as I expect it would be a fairly pricey lens. Anything slower though, they can keep. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Macro lens conundrum
Lucas Rijnders wrote: Op Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:38:36 +0200 schreef William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: Bob Sullivan I visited a neighbor who is a member of the Chicago Corvette Club yesterday. He showed us 3 Corvettes in his 2 car garage. One was on a lift 4.5 feet off the ground and the second was under it. Lenses are a cheap hobby... The problem seems to lie in the definition of collecting. I'm not quite certain what differentiates the collector who buys nice glass for the pleasure of ownership from the retard who buys nice glass for the pleasure of ownership. Collectors are white pipe-smoking males in their fifties. The rest are retards. Har! Pure genius! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Macro lens conundrum
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: Macro lens conundrum My son says he hasn't started the '69 Corvette on the top of the lift in the past 3 years. Perhap some of the pleasure is knowing you own it and can use it if you want to. That's pretty much how I see it. I've made exactly one lens purchase in the last few years that I more or less regret. I was at the Don's one day with my wife, and bought the 40/2.8 LTD lens on a complete whim. I left it with Tom C last year, and so far have had no real desire to retrieve it. OTOH, I have a real desire to go visit Tom and Linda again, so I may end up down there to get it as an excuse for a visit. He really does live in a small corner of the USA that is as close to paradise as I have seen. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA35/2.8 Macro Samples (unofficial)
William Robb wrote: The extra stop of speed is a nice complement to the high ISO support. That extra stop gives the auto focus a lot more to work with. When I bought my 50mm f/1.2 lens, it wasn't because I intended to shoot at f1.2, it was because I wanted all the screen brightness I could get for focusing at dimly lit venues, and I found that the 1/3 stop of viewfinder brightness it gave me over an f/1.4 lens was of benefit. I've found the same benefit of fast lenses and viewfinder brightness when stumbling around mountainsides before dawn :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Macro lens conundrum
- Original Message - From: Lucas Rijnders Subject: Re: Macro lens conundrum Collectors are white pipe-smoking males in their fifties. The rest are retards. Does it matter what they put in their pipes? WW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pets in your home, photos and fee
I don't think that by me charging $60.00 per hour to do an onsite shoot, and another guy charges $1400 is by any means degrading his quality or business. I don't think $1400 is a justifiable fee for something like this. If he is only doing high end clients, they will never be calling me anyway. I'm to cheap to be good. I agree i should let them know i am starting out, not in photography, but this type of work. As i get better and more confident, i then would feel better in charging a bit more. As far as making $30,000, thats would be a tad less than what i made in the survey game, so its not a big deal, but that would be if i only didi photography. Thanks for the comments George, appreciated. Dave On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 10:45 AM, George Sinos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently listened to an interview with a married couple that are professional photographers. Pricing was a big portion of the interview. Based on what I heard and assuming there is no cost-based reason for the $1400 sitting fee, it sounds like the prices may be based on the the photographer's desire to work with affluent customers that have the disposable income to spend $1400 on a sitting fee. It's likely a predictor that they will spend a significant additional amount on more prints and other products after the fact. On the other hand, suppose this were your primary job and you could do 30 of these sittings in a year. After expenses and taxes you might have an annual income of about $30,000. For a family of four in the US, that's barely above the official poverty line. So, they will need significant after-the-sitting sales to get up to a reasonable annual income. These are very rough estimates and could be completely wrong, but it doesn't sound that unreasonable to me. After all, this isn't the typical discount store or shopping mall portrait studio. They going on-site for a time consuming sitting. I wouldn't want to undercut pros that are charging reasonable (and I'm not saying they are) )prices. They are trying to make a living in a very competitive and difficult business. Buy undercutting them, (and I'm not saying you are) you're devaluing every one's work. If you are charging less because you are inexperienced and want to learn, make that clear to your clients. Let them know that in the future your prices will rise with your experience level. Best of luck, GS http://georgesphotos.net On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 7:35 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife works in a Pet Valu food store, and takes in my meager photos of our cats and friends dogs as part of their monthly specials and to help in adding extra photo work my way. I have heard a lot of good comments from these photos, and some of their customers have new dogs and cats and have inquired if i would be available to do a shoot. Of course i am, they just have to get dates organized etc, but i;'m at odds for rates. Just recently in the Toronto Star newspaper, they had a 1/2 page article on a couple of pet photographers scattered around Canada, Toronto, Vancouver and another city i forget. These people were charging upwards of $1400 for the sitting and CD. One was a very experienced person, the other two just getting in to it. I have no intention of charging these rate, but i feel a shoot at a place both owner and animal are comfortabel with, own home, local park etc would be best. Try some posed shots, follow the animal around and grab the animal doing its thing candids. Not sure if i explained that well, but hopefully YKWIM. Travel would be minimal, we are still a small town, but i feel it would be appropriate for my experience, and sense of fair play, that a rate of $50-60 for an hour shoot, and put a CD together add another $50-60 for time, PS work, maybe a bit more for a musical slideshow etc.. Am i in the ball park out am i way out of line to start off Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Macro lens conundrum
Op Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:56:33 +0200 schreef William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: Lucas Rijnders Subject: Re: Macro lens conundrum Collectors are white pipe-smoking males in their fifties. The rest are retards. Does it matter what they put in their pipes? Certainly, but my english vocabulary lacks a good translations for 'gesausde pijptabak'. -- Sorry, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pets in your home, photos and fee
Bill, i think your right, i like the first shot and as a dog owner, if i had one, would appreciate a good portrait, but would be very happy to see them in action. I understand a bird dog owner would like to see them in action, running, catching etc. I would have to have agood sit down with the owner for sure. I would be happy to try what they want, i just don';t have studio stuff, so and but, i am lead to believe from my wife, that out door action with a few portrait types will be what they are looking for. Natural light at home seems to be prevelent on the few google pagesi found. Thanks for the tips. Dave On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 11:27 AM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Pets in your home, photos and fee My wife works in a Pet Valu food store, and takes in my meager photos of our cats and friends dogs as part of their monthly specials and to help in adding extra photo work my way. I have heard a lot of good comments from these photos, and some of their customers have new dogs and cats and have inquired if i would be available to do a shoot. Of course i am, they just have to get dates organized etc, but i;'m at odds for rates. Just recently in the Toronto Star newspaper, they had a 1/2 page article on a couple of pet photographers scattered around Canada, Toronto, Vancouver and another city i forget. These people were charging upwards of $1400 for the sitting and CD. One was a very experienced person, the other two just getting in to it. I have no intention of charging these rate, but i feel a shoot at a place both owner and animal are comfortabel with, own home, local park etc would be best. Try some posed shots, follow the animal around and grab the animal doing its thing candids. Not sure if i explained that well, but hopefully YKWIM. Travel would be minimal, we are still a small town, but i feel it would be appropriate for my experience, and sense of fair play, that a rate of $50-60 for an hour shoot, and put a CD together add another $50-60 for time, PS work, maybe a bit more for a musical slideshow etc.. Am i in the ball park out am i way out of line to start off I don't differentiate between dogs, cats, and people as far as portrait work goes. $60.00 per hour for time, whether it be shooting or post processing is reasonable. If you are supplying your own backdrops, make sure you have a cleaning clause in your contract. You may be able to get away with mopping dog piss off your muslin and then taking it to a posrtait session for people, but I guarantee that if you put another dog on it ever, you will not get any pictures of the dog doing anything other than sniffing the spot that was messed on. Cat effluent is even worse. Depending on the breed of dog, you will find that customer expectations are very different. The owner of a gun dog will probably want a very different style of picture than the owner of a toy breed. As an example, my dogs, as handsome as they are, look far more impressive in any picture in this series: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/beachday/beach_fun.html than they do in this: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/fellas/portraits/jnb2938.html. Getting a dog to chase something is a great way to get action pictures, even if all they are chasing is their boss. However, yer basic Chihuahua owner is more likely to want something like this: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/temp/chi3287.jpg Good luck William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Get ready to register for the GFM NPW
Darn darn darn I wish i could go, but alas. No i don't know who the lass is.:-) Dave PS can i pre send in a sucky photo Mark. On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cory Waters wrote: Get your credit cards out and load the page y'all. And the page would be? Ah, yes: http://www.grandfather.com/planning_your_visit/events/nphoto.php Once again Doug Brewer and I will be judging the contest. And unlike the Pentax Photo Gallery, we'll tell you why your pictures suck! ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: A PESO recycled as plugging
I think you are a rich man when being able to shoot these fantastic auroras. Henk http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/03/pleasant-surprise.html Didn't make me rich, but I was the only of five photographers who sold anything at all. :-) Best, Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: A PESO recycled as plugging
Fabtabulous Colours are wonderfull Dave On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 1:23 PM, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pretty sure I've shown this before, but it's probably long ago. It's also in the Pentax gallery. Today, however, it earned me a sale at a trade fair. http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/03/pleasant-surprise.html Didn't make me rich, but I was the only of five photographers who sold anything at all. :-) Best, Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
