Re: K20D hot pixels issue is due to 2sec MLU

2008-05-28 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Well, actually, if you shoot RAW the converters eliminate these pixels for you 
(and it seems that even some tool eliminates them automatically from jpgs).

Jaume


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De: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Enviado: miércoles, 28 de mayo, 2008 0:46:40
Asunto: Re: K20D hot pixels issue is due to 2sec MLU

Funny, i used my istD for 2 1/2 years and never noticed, or looked for
stuck or dead pixels. I lent it to Brother Aaron one day for a Blue
Jay baseball game, and he noticed 6 of them.

He had to point them out to me, i could not see them.

One click of the clone tool fixed all of that.:-)

Dave

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Jaume Lahuerta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It seems that there is people with lots of free time and that has been able 
 to isolate the K20D hot pixel issue that has been worrying some reviewers.
 According to this thread, the phenomena is UNIVERSAL (it happens in all 
 K20Ds) and it appears when the mirror locks up for 2 seconds before making 
 the picture.
 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=28079977

 From a comment in a blog entry comment:
 CONCLUSION: Apparently there is something buggy w/ 2 sec delay and the 
 sensor/processing
 CURRENT SOLUTIONS as proposed by others:
 1)To
 avoid this problem with 2s mirror lockup when shooting JPG on a tripod,
 one may want to switch long-exposure NR to ON (as opposed to AUTO).
 This should avoid the problem in this particular situation.
 2)They
 could certainly work around it by activating the dark frame NR whenever
 the 2-sec delay is used, and even take the dark frame during the 2-sec.
 delay rather than after the exposure.

 Since I don't own this model (although I may be interested in getting one 
 this year), I can't test it myself, and it doesn't seems a big issue unless 
 you need jpg+ 2 sec MLU...does it?

 Regards,
 Jaume


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Re: PESO - Dayton-esque

2008-05-28 Thread Boris Liberman
Bruce, I think that the shots you made with A 70-210/4 were a bit more
hmmm airy or elegant. This one is slightly heavier, if whatever I am
saying makes any sense to you at all.

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 assure you that I am still alive.  I have been extremely busy with
 work this past while and have not been able to participate as I would
 like.  Hopefully, I'll be able to participate more.

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 ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f/5.6, Handheld

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RE: A mildly amusing sign

2008-05-28 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/05/27 Tue PM 07:14:31 GMT
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 Subject: RE: A mildly amusing sign
 
  
  I have got electrocuted from peeing at an electrical fence.
  I can assure you, not a pleasant experience.
  This proves what I've always known.
  My pecker sure is special :-)
  
  BTW. I've also been stung by a bumble bee in my testicals.
  
 
 Could be worse. Konrad Lorenz was circumcised by a raven.

That _was_ worse.  It was an _attempted_ circumcision.


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Re: GFM and the Carolina's in summer

2008-05-28 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Have you thought about the east coast of Lake Michigan?  Ken Waller 
 Mark Cassino's territory?

 Or the Upper Peninsula of Michigan - should be familiar to you Dave since
 you had so many traverses thru in the winter.

Yup, made what 5-6 trips i think. Would not mind seeing that area and
NOT having to shoot through the wind shield.
I';ll mull that over with the treasury department. I could prpbably
talk her into a 2-3 day drive tour and come home via Thunder Bay

LOL

Dave

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 From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: GFM and the Carolina's in summer


 Dave,
 The Smokey Mountain National Park will be very busy.
 I imagine bumper to bumper traffic over the mountains thru the gap (RT
 441).
 Gatlinburg is worse with tourists and Pigeon Forge is 'the pits'.
 Gas prices should put all of the Ohio valley there this summer for a
 local vacation.
 Have you thought about the east coast of Lake Michigan?  Ken Waller 
 Mark Cassino's territory?
 I could do that.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 11:52 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 I';m still a bit miffed at having to miss this years gala, and have
 tossed
 this idea around with the treasury department.

 Once school is out for July and August, the only work i'll have is
 my horse shows, weekends, but i do have 2 maybe 3 free weekends to do
 some travel.

 I suppose i could also do it during the week, now that i think about it.

 I know what the are is like this time of year, lots of weather
 changes, lots of mist in the hills, etc,
 but whats it like in that neck of the woods in summer.

 Would one still get the ahhh factor.?? How busy would the parkway
 be. I'll assume very.

 Dave

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Re: Don't leave home with out one.

2008-05-28 Thread David J Brooks
All my extra cards were in my smaller walk around bag, not the back
pack i take to the shows.

Arrrg, i felt like such an idiot.

Only good thing about it, if i can say that, is the people i took the
photos of, never buy pictures anyway.They just steal them from my
site, so maybe its a good thing.

Dave

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 9:44 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I forgot to put a card in the camera the other day, but like you I keep a 2 
 gig card in the grip. I also have a second card on my key-chain in one of 
 those sandisk card holders. So I always have an extra 4 gig of cards.
  -- Original message --
 From: Y. Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Okay, I'll confess. I've done it, too. LOL!!

 A couple of years ago, I had gone out shooting and left my spare cards at
 home. I got the bright idea of taking the card from the back-up body. After
 downloading all the cards, I reloaded the primary and put it back in the
 bag. When I grabbed a camera on the next outing, I accidentally picked up
 the 2nd body on my way out.

 I now make sure that all cameras have cards BEFORE putting them away after
 use.

 Of course, the K10D will save my bacon as long as I remember that there is a
 spare card in the grip. ;)



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 frank theriault
 Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 11:37
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: Don't leave home with out one.

 On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 5:58 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I always, and i mean always, put my card back in the Dslr it came out
  of,once i have down loaded the photos.
 
  Well that was true up until yesterday.
 
  I took the K10D and 16-45 to the show to use as presentation camera. I
  took a few photos over the day, a long one to boot, and when i got
  home last night, went to pop the card out, and guess what,, NO CARD.
 
  Lucky there was only a few shots, but still, made me feel like quite
  the arse at 10 pm.
 
  Just a reminder folks, don't be a Davey Dumb Dumb.

 Yes, well, you should count yourself lucky.  Think of the alliterative
 phrases one can conjure up from my name:  Frankie F**k-up, anyone?

 ;-)

 Anyway, about a month ago I wandered out of the house with my *istD
 for an afternoon.  For whatever reason, I didn't see much to shoot
 that day.  As I got to within a couple of blocks of my apartment, I
 went to shoot something completely inconsequential, only to discover
 that the body had no card in it.

 Whew! I thought to myself.  No harm, no foul.  I'm lucky I didn't
 miss any good shots, but who else would be as stupid as me and forget
 their card?

 Today you answered my question, Dave!

 ;-)

 cheers,
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Re: GFM roll call

2008-05-28 Thread David J Brooks
I'm a Crosby fan, but, have been a wings fan since i was a kid.

Never was nor will be a Leaf fan.

Dave

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yep. All the Canadians are at home rooting for our Hockey Town Red
 Wings:-).

 There was a story in the local paper today about a guy  his son who drove
 20 hours from northern Ontario to the Joe Louis Arena in Detroit to watch
 the Redwings last night!

 GO WINGS!

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

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 Subject: Re: GFM roll call



 -- Original message --
 From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  I think this is it, though I hope I'm wrong.  Small group this year.
 
  Mark Roberts
  Me
  Cory
  List guy
  Patti (One of Mark's previous students)
  Norm! (and SO)
  Cotty
  Nico
 
  Assumptions (haven't heard from them):
  Tom Reese and Susan
  Nico
 
  Looks like the Canadian Contingent bailed out.  Must be some kinda
  protest.  Or maybe they're leaning so far to the left that they
  couldn't
  get themselves straight enough to clear the border.  vbg, please don't
  hurt me

 There is still hockey on , my son.:-) No time for, oh never mind.:-)

 Dave
 Yep. All the Canadians are at home rooting for our Hockey Town Red
 Wings:-).
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Re: Don't leave home with out one.

2008-05-28 Thread George Sinos
I've made a habit of putting a fresh card in when I remove a card.

Just in case I forget, there's a spare in the grip and the camera is
set to not fire without a card.

Murphy, however, is very resourceful.  His law says he'll eventually
find a way for somthing to go wrong.

GS



On 5/27/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I forgot to put a card in the camera the other day, but like you I keep a 2
 gig card in the grip. I also have a second card on my key-chain in one of
 those sandisk card holders. So I always have an extra 4 gig of cards.
  -- Original message --
 From: Y. Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Okay, I'll confess. I've done it, too. LOL!!

 A couple of years ago, I had gone out shooting and left my spare cards at
 home. I got the bright idea of taking the card from the back-up body.
 After
 downloading all the cards, I reloaded the primary and put it back in the
 bag. When I grabbed a camera on the next outing, I accidentally picked up
 the 2nd body on my way out.

 I now make sure that all cameras have cards BEFORE putting them away after
 use.

 Of course, the K10D will save my bacon as long as I remember that there is
 a
 spare card in the grip. ;)



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 frank theriault
 Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 11:37
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: Don't leave home with out one.

 On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 5:58 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  I always, and i mean always, put my card back in the Dslr it came out
  of,once i have down loaded the photos.
 
  Well that was true up until yesterday.
 
  I took the K10D and 16-45 to the show to use as presentation camera. I
  took a few photos over the day, a long one to boot, and when i got
  home last night, went to pop the card out, and guess what,, NO CARD.
 
  Lucky there was only a few shots, but still, made me feel like quite
  the arse at 10 pm.
 
  Just a reminder folks, don't be a Davey Dumb Dumb.

 Yes, well, you should count yourself lucky.  Think of the alliterative
 phrases one can conjure up from my name:  Frankie F**k-up, anyone?

 ;-)

 Anyway, about a month ago I wandered out of the house with my *istD
 for an afternoon.  For whatever reason, I didn't see much to shoot
 that day.  As I got to within a couple of blocks of my apartment, I
 went to shoot something completely inconsequential, only to discover
 that the body had no card in it.

 Whew! I thought to myself.  No harm, no foul.  I'm lucky I didn't
 miss any good shots, but who else would be as stupid as me and forget
 their card?

 Today you answered my question, Dave!

 ;-)

 cheers,
 frank
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Re: PESO - Dayton-esque

2008-05-28 Thread David J Brooks
Like the composition.

That vertical stem in the back ground is a bit distracing, but not a lot for me

Dave

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It may seem like I have fallen off the edge of the world, but I
 assure you that I am still alive.  I have been extremely busy with
 work this past while and have not been able to participate as I would
 like.  Hopefully, I'll be able to participate more.

 Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 135mm
 ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f/5.6, Handheld

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5968.htm


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RE: Just ordered the KatzEye screen

2008-05-28 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen
 I do like to know.
 
 Please report back when you have used it for some time.
 I'd like to know how how the area outside the splitt screen is.
 Because I am debating geting s custom screen without splitt screen.
 A screen without distractions.
 
 MaritimTim

The split prism is great but if you don't want one the microprism collar is 
pretty good too. I have not done any comparison with the plain matte portion of 
KatzEye vs. the Pentax original. To get close to reliable comparison I would 
need to have two bodies, one with each screen and the same type lens.

I like the split prism a lot but I guess that is because I am used to having it 
in the manual focus film cameras.

Antti-Pekka


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Re: GFM check list

2008-05-28 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cotty wrote:
 On 27/5/08, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:

 Does anyone who is going need me to haul anything along?  I have quite
 the plethora of camp gear - tent, sleeping bags, cooking gear, plasticky
 dinner ware, cleft sticks, air mattress, etc.  I figured I'd bring some
 booze, too, but if you have something specific in mind I'd be happy to
 pick it up.  Within reason, of course.  ;)

 Twenty six-packs of cold beer and a dozen large bags of Bugles please ;)

But i have the cooler.:-)

I like bugles to.

Dave

 Bugles.  Got it.  They're on the list.

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Re: Just ordered the KatzEye screen

2008-05-28 Thread Tim Øsleby
I do like to know.

Please report back when you have used it for some time.
I'd like to know how how the area outside the splitt screen is.
Because I am debating geting s custom screen without splitt screen. A
screen without distractions.

MaritimTim

2008/5/28 Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi!

 After a bit of consideration I've just placed an order for my own KE
 screen for my K10D. I opted to have no lines on the frame but I added
 the OptiBrite treatment.

 Just thought you might like to know ;-).

 Cheers!

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Re: PESO - A week-end story of enablement

2008-05-28 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ooohhh!

 I love canoes.  We have a lovely red canoe we got each
 other as a 10th anniversary present, almost 21 years
 ago, and we love going out in it.  Last summer we had
 my grandfather's 1906-vintage Old Town rehabbed, and
 it is lovely.  I'll have to post some pics sometime.

 Your Black-Throated Diver looks very similar to one of
 our Common Loons.  The loons' calls are amazing and
 lovely on a quiet lake.

You're right there, Rick.  The loons' calls (there are several)
virtually define the wilderness in this part of the world.  They're
haunting and beautiful.  I have memories of camping and cottaging on
quiet lakes north of Toronto and Montreal, waking up at sunrise to
hear their call.  In most cases they were several kilometres away, but
the call carries across the glassy-still water, echoing off the
surrounding hills.

I remember one cool summer morning as a child, sitting with my father
at the end of a dock, watching a loon dive for minutes at a time, then
surface hundreds of metres away.  We sat there for a good hour
watching it, not saying a word to each other, just pointing every few
minutes when it surfaced:  There it is!, then remaining quiet again
until the next sighting.

It was pretty cool.

Sadly, due to acid rain and global warming, loons are on the decline.

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Re: PESO - A week-end story of enablement

2008-05-28 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 10:39 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Uh, no.  The markings are different.  The common loon
 has a black ring around its neck.

 (Sheesh. Dumb Canucks!) ;-)

I know a loon when I see it...

cheers,
the dumb Canuck

;-)

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Re: PESO - A week-end story of enablement

2008-05-28 Thread AlunFoto
I met a couple of anglers in a homemade fibreglass canoe. They claimed
it weighed only 25 kg, and had put in a carrying yoke at the balance
point as part of the construction. They were indeed able to carry it
single-person, but it looked like more than 25 kg from the way they
walked.

Incidentally, their fishing luck had been only so-so, but the ones
they'd caught were surprisingly large. All eaten, of course. I had a
fishing rod with me too, and caught one whole perch. :-)  It was
exactly large enough to have the head and the tail fin sticking out
from my fist grip when I unhooked it. That was half the size
prospected by the guys I met.
I put my catch back in the water... :-)

Jostein

2008/5/28 Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 That's a great looking craft.  I need one of those.  I have an old
 fibreglass canoe that is just too heavy to be useful, so it hasn't seen
 water for several years.

 I like the shot of the Black-throated Divers (or Loons - what do I know,
 I'm Australian.)



 Cheers

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OT: Mini SD Cards

2008-05-28 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Has anyone used this type of card?  does it work?

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Re: PESO - A week-end story of enablement

2008-05-28 Thread AlunFoto
Thanks Rick.
Please post some pics of the old craft. Would be very interesting to see.

I think the loons in my pic are Arctic loons, not Common loons... -but
I only have Wikipedia to go by.

Jostein

2008/5/28 Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Ooohhh!

 I love canoes.  We have a lovely red canoe we got each
 other as a 10th anniversary present, almost 21 years
 ago, and we love going out in it.  Last summer we had
 my grandfather's 1906-vintage Old Town rehabbed, and
 it is lovely.  I'll have to post some pics sometime.

 Your Black-Throated Diver looks very similar to one of
 our Common Loons.  The loons' calls are amazing and
 lovely on a quiet lake.

 Rick


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Re: PESO - Dayton-esque

2008-05-28 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Dayton
Subject: PESO - Dayton-esque


 It may seem like I have fallen off the edge of the world, but I
 assure you that I am still alive.  I have been extremely busy with
 work this past while and have not been able to participate as I would
 like.  Hopefully, I'll be able to participate more.

 Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 135mm
 ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f/5.6, Handheld

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5968.htm

Much darker in mood than your usual fare, which is just a comment, not a 
critisism. For this 
type of shot to work the background needs to be quite smooth. Texture is OK, 
but almost detail 
isn't.
The black stem in the background is an almost detail, and it ruins the picture.
Sorry.

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Re: Just ordered the KatzEye screen

2008-05-28 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Boris Liberman 
Subject: Just ordered the KatzEye screen


 Hi!
 
 After a bit of consideration I've just placed an order for my own KE 
 screen for my K10D. I opted to have no lines on the frame but I added 
 the OptiBrite treatment.
 
 Just thought you might like to know ;-).

You'd better not have slowed down my order. :-}

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Re: Just ordered the KatzEye screen

2008-05-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
My custom screen for the *ist DS was made without focusing aid, just a  
few scribed lines for horizontal/vertical reference and framing. I was  
quite happy with it.

Godfrey

On May 28, 2008, at 3:42 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

 I do like to know.

 Please report back when you have used it for some time.
 I'd like to know how how the area outside the splitt screen is.
 Because I am debating geting s custom screen without splitt screen. A
 screen without distractions.


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Re: PESO - Dayton-esque

2008-05-28 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bruce,
Glad to see you are still there.
Nice picture and a great blue color.
Like Dave says about the stem,
but having it lead to the flower is about the best place for it.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 5:59 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Like the composition.

 That vertical stem in the back ground is a bit distracing, but not a lot for 
 me

 Dave

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 It may seem like I have fallen off the edge of the world, but I
 assure you that I am still alive.  I have been extremely busy with
 work this past while and have not been able to participate as I would
 like.  Hopefully, I'll be able to participate more.

 Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 135mm
 ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f/5.6, Handheld

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5968.htm


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Re: PESO - A week-end story of enablement

2008-05-28 Thread AlunFoto
Thanks Henk!

2008/5/28 Henk Terhell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Great shots of the beautiful scenery. And nice reading as well.

 Henk

 AlunFoto schreef:
 The enablement is off-topic for this list, but catalysing for
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Re: GFM roll call

2008-05-28 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: David J Brooks 
Subject: Re: GFM roll call


 I'm a Crosby fan, but, have been a wings fan since i was a kid.
 
 Never was nor will be a Leaf fan.

You guys are talking about hockey, right?

William Robb


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Re: OT: Mini SD Cards

2008-05-28 Thread Paul Sorenson
Haven't tried one in a camera, but I have added a 2GB micro for more 
memory in my phone and in that application it works fine.  I suspect 
they don't have a very fast write speed, but if one is not looking for 
speed, it's sure cheap memory.

-p

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
 Has anyone used this type of card?  does it work?
 
 http://www.woot.com/
 


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Re: Mini SD Cards

2008-05-28 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Daniel J. Matyola
Subject: OT: Mini SD Cards


 Has anyone used this type of card?  does it work?

 http://www.woot.com/

I've had a few people come into the lab with those things. They seem mostly to 
be used in cell 
phones. They seem to work OK, though I don't know how fast they are.

William Robb 


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Re: Just ordered the KatzEye screen

2008-05-28 Thread Axel Belinfante
Did you get it to avoid clutter,
or to improve ease of (manual?) focusing?

I guess I'm echoing Tim here - wondering whether
there is a difference between ease of manual focus on
the matte of the Pentax and the KatzEye screens.

Axel - just trying to check my understanding

 My custom screen for the *ist DS was made without focusing aid, just a
 few scribed lines for horizontal/vertical reference and framing. I was
 quite happy with it.
 
 Godfrey
 
 On May 28, 2008, at 3:42 AM, Tim =D8sleby wrote:
 
  I do like to know.
 
  Please report back when you have used it for some time.
  I'd like to know how how the area outside the splitt screen is.
  Because I am debating geting s custom screen without splitt screen. A
  screen without distractions.

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Re: PESO - A week-end story of enablement

2008-05-28 Thread AlunFoto
2008/5/28 frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Sadly, due to acid rain and global warming, loons are on the decline.

I don't think global warming affects the loons in particular. AFAIK,
they're flexible in their climate requirements. Acid rain does,
however, because it diminish the fish populations that loons feed on.

Other environmental hazards that affect them are plastic waste
(shopping bags, bubble wrap, etc.), heavy metals (because they're far
up in the food chain) and fluctuating water levels. The loons are
clumsy on land, and always place their nest in vegetation close to the
water line. If the water level drops, they'll be unable to get on and
off the nest. This is particularly important here in Norway with all
the hydropower regulations, but in some cases even flood protection
systems can interfere with the loon's breeding success.


Jostein


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Re: OT: Mini SD Cards

2008-05-28 Thread David Savage
We have one in the camera at work and it drives me nuts.

Useful in a pinch, but painfully slow.

Cheers,

Dave

2008/5/28 Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Has anyone used this type of card?  does it work?

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K20D Hot Pixels

2008-05-28 Thread William Robb
Apparently a firmware problem.
We'll see.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=28085894

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Re: PESO - A week-end story of enablement

2008-05-28 Thread AlunFoto
Thanks Christine.

It is indeed a canoe for smooth waters. It is constructed for cutting
through the waves rather than climbing them, so it will not perform
very well at sea. It is also constructed for steering stability which
makes it more difficult to turn around quickly in the rapids.

But I'm not going to venture into neither seas nor rapids with camera
gear onboard anyway... :-)

Jostein

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 I wish you smooth waters, Jostein, and I like your very nice pics.  Cheers,
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photographs on the brain

2008-05-28 Thread Fernando
Hi list,

I've been enjoying this photo blog, some of you might find it
entertaining as well

http://bryanformhals.tumblr.com/

Cheers

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Re: Just ordered the KatzEye screen

2008-05-28 Thread Tim Øsleby
I remember you used it at the DS, and was happy with it.
Why didn't you get a new one for the K10/20D? Any particular reason?

MaritimTim

2008/5/28 Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 My custom screen for the *ist DS was made without focusing aid, just a
 few scribed lines for horizontal/vertical reference and framing. I was
 quite happy with it.

 Godfrey

 On May 28, 2008, at 3:42 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

 I do like to know.

 Please report back when you have used it for some time.
 I'd like to know how how the area outside the splitt screen is.
 Because I am debating geting s custom screen without splitt screen. A
 screen without distractions.
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Re: PESO: Prairie Country

2008-05-28 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Wonderful shot!  It really give a sense of the place and the openness
of the terrain.

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:23 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 G'day All,

 I'm slowly making my way through shots from my holiday last year to
 the US  Canada with the aim of putting together a photo book.

 Here's another one from that trip (~150kb):

 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2357/2530269037_026197a427_o.jpg

 K10D, FA 31mm f1.8, 1/60 @ f16, ISO 100, Lightroomed ;-)

 Any  all comments welcome.

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Re: OT: Best Ribs Ever

2008-05-28 Thread Andreas Pfotenhauer
barbequeueing recipes on the PDML ^^

I can imagine that this Ale adds a nice flavor to the meat, something 
i'll try for sure.
I use to do my ribs rather similar (with little differences in the used 
spices) but at lower temperature (between 100-110°C, 4-6 hours)  .. with 
this low and slow method they get very juicy and the meat really falls 
off the bone ..

thanks for sharing, and greetings from germany
Andreas

 I've been barbeduing ribs for forty years. And that's how long it's taken me 
 to perfect the process. You have to start with good meat. Baby back ribs are 
 my choice, but they have to be about an inch thick with long bones. Don't 
 accept ribs with huge hunks of meat hanging on short bones.They're from the 
 end of the cut 

 The night before you're going to cook, cut the slabs in half and pull the 
 membrane off the back. Then rub them with plenty of salt, garlic powder, 
 onion powder and pepper. You can't overdue this, because most of it will wash 
 off anyway. I use Lawry's seasoned salt in place of regular salt. Put the 
 half slabs in aluminum baking pans that are about nine inches square, cover 
 and refrigerate overnight. You can get two half slabs in each pan. Postion 
 them so that the meathy side is on top, and their arcing above the pan.

 Next day, add about an inch of a good ale to each pan. I use Dogfish Head 
 IPA, probably overkill. If you're making two slabs, you'll need four bottles 
 of beer for the ribs. That leaves two for the cook, which is the correct, 
 before-dinner amount. 

 Now I know this is herietical, but I use a gas barbecue. That's for control. 
 However, I plank the grille with cedar, so it's essentially a smoker. . I use 
 the same cedar planks that I've previously used to grille fish or chicken. 
 They're partly charred but still good for this purpose. I use enough planks 
 to cover any part of the grille where my pans will rest. I place the pans, 
 full of ribs and beer atop the planks and use enough heat under the planks to 
 get the temperature to about 275 F and keep it there. That will cause the 
 wood to smoke very nicely. I cook the ribs at this temperature for three 
 hours. I turn them once for about 45 minutes to let the topside soak up some 
 beer, while washing off -- and soaking in -- some of the seasoning..

 After three hours, I remove the pans and th wood, then I put the ribs back on 
 the grille and coat them with Sweet Baby Ray's Bone-Suckin' Barbecue Sauce.  
 I turn the heat up to about 400 and cook the ribs for about 20 minutes, 
 flopping them at least a few times and adding more sauce each time. that 
 leaves them with a nice glaze of carmelized sauce. 

 Serve them with coleslaw and corn on the cob. And another six pack of Dogfish 
 Head.

 Heaven.

 Paul

   


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PESO: Prairie Country

2008-05-28 Thread David Savage
G'day All,

I'm slowly making my way through shots from my holiday last year to
the US  Canada with the aim of putting together a photo book.

Here's another one from that trip (~150kb):

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2357/2530269037_026197a427_o.jpg

K10D, FA 31mm f1.8, 1/60 @ f16, ISO 100, Lightroomed ;-)

Any  all comments welcome.

Cheers,

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Re: Just ordered the KatzEye screen

2008-05-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
ON the DS, I found the screen quality not quite what I wanted for  
manual focusing as, at the time I got it, I was using older manual  
focus lenses more of the time. I wanted something with less clutter  
and a better focusing surface. My custom scribe lines were more of a  
while I'm doing this anyway kind of thing.

I found the K10D screen to be as good for manual focusing as the  
KatzEye was on the DS, and also found that since I was using more  
recent, all AF lenses, that the additional markings for them were not  
as much of a distraction. (I still manually focus about the same  
amount of the time, but I often do so using the QS feature of the DA/ 
DA* lenses rather than having to turn AF off.)

I guess overall that by the time I had the K10D in my hands, it was  
no longer a priority worth spending $100+ to change.

Godfrey


On May 28, 2008, at 7:20 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

 I remember you used it at the DS, and was happy with it.
 Why didn't you get a new one for the K10/20D? Any particular reason?

 MaritimTim

 2008/5/28 Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 My custom screen for the *ist DS was made without focusing aid,  
 just a
 few scribed lines for horizontal/vertical reference and framing. I  
 was
 quite happy with it.


On May 28, 2008, at 6:50 AM, Axel Belinfante wrote:
 Did you get it to avoid clutter,
 or to improve ease of (manual?) focusing?

 I guess I'm echoing Tim here - wondering whether
 there is a difference between ease of manual focus on
 the matte of the Pentax and the KatzEye screens.


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Re: PESO: Prairie Country

2008-05-28 Thread ann sanfedele
Like it -- just as it is.  (been there, seen that :) )

ann

David Savage wrote:

G'day All,

I'm slowly making my way through shots from my holiday last year to
the US  Canada with the aim of putting together a photo book.

Here's another one from that trip (~150kb):

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2357/2530269037_026197a427_o.jpg

K10D, FA 31mm f1.8, 1/60 @ f16, ISO 100, Lightroomed ;-)

Any  all comments welcome.

Cheers,

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Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!

2008-05-28 Thread Scott Loveless
ann sanfedele wrote:
 I'll be thinking about you - and am glad I'm in the same time zone 
 incase you guys actually miss me.

That never stopped us before.

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Re: GFM roll call

2008-05-28 Thread David J Brooks
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 I'm a Crosby fan, but, have been a wings fan since i was a kid.

 Never was nor will be a Leaf fan.

 You guys are talking about hockey, right?

Ladies arm wrestling

Dave

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Re: GFM roll call

2008-05-28 Thread David Savage
2008/5/28 David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 11:11 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 Subject: Re: GFM roll call


 I'm a Crosby fan, but, have been a wings fan since i was a kid.

 Never was nor will be a Leaf fan.

 You guys are talking about hockey, right?

 Ladies arm wrestling

I thought Leaf made cameras?

Cheers,

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Re: PESO - Two Sides of Love

2008-05-28 Thread ann sanfedele
frank theriault wrote:

A subway story:

http://tinyurl.com/5q7mcg

http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SDLHx_BRrUI/CEM/3Ub-Tc2mfQc/s1600-h/may_20_08+012.jpg

Comments always welcome.  Thanks!

cheers,
frank
  


Oy.  looks like only one side to me.  they all look pretty unhappy.

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Re: OT: Mini SD Cards

2008-05-28 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks for your responses, William, Paul and David.

I my buy one just to keep as an emergency back-up.

Dan M

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:05 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We have one in the camera at work and it drives me nuts.

 Useful in a pinch, but painfully slow.

 Cheers,

 Dave

 2008/5/28 Daniel J. Matyola [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Has anyone used this type of card?  does it work?

 http://www.woot.com/

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Re: PESO: Determination

2008-05-28 Thread David Savage
2008/5/26 frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 8:37 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 G'day All,

 Took this one last year while in Canada (~240kb):

 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3072/2523538395_019a4d2c94_o.jpg

 K10D, DA 16-45mm f4 @ 21mm, 1/60 @ f8.0, ISO 100

 As always any  all comments welcome.


 Brilliant!

Thanks Frank

 Love the colours, the composition and the message.  That would make a
 great inspirational poster/calendar page, etc, etc.  That would sell
 in a moment!

I was thinking the exact same thing while processing it :-)

Cheers,

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Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!

2008-05-28 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:44 AM, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Christine Aguila wrote:

Like Jack, I'm all caught up in the excitement about the PDML trip to GFM,
so I'd like to wish all those in route safe travels, a great time, and happy
shooting.  Looking forward to the stories and photos. Maybe next year I'll
join you all.

Drink a beer for me--I tend to like the darker ales! ;-)

Big cheers, Christine





 Ditto all of that -- well, except the part about the beer old tea
 and coffee totaller moi.

 I'll be thinking about you - and am glad I'm in the same time zone
 incase you guys actually miss me.

 (if you don't know of which I speak, you aren't in the GFM loop :))

I believe Norm found out my number. I told Liz to unplug the phone.

LOL

Dave

BTW right about now i should have only been an hour from Marks place.:-(

Dave

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Re: PESO: Determination

2008-05-28 Thread David Savage
2008/5/26 Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Good one.

Thank you.

Nice framing of an interesting subject.

Is that your way of saying my recent PESO's weren't interesting :-D

Thanks for looking.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: PESO - A week-end story of enablement

2008-05-28 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 9:52 AM, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2008/5/28 frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Sadly, due to acid rain and global warming, loons are on the decline.

 I don't think global warming affects the loons in particular. AFAIK,
 they're flexible in their climate requirements. Acid rain does,
 however, because it diminish the fish populations that loons feed on.

What I've heard is that global warming is thought to be a major
contributor to algal bloom in some Canadian lakes.  Since loons hunt
fish by sight, if they can't see to catch fish, they won't populate
those lakes with algal bloom, thus squeezing them out of longtime
habitats.

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Re: GFM roll call

2008-05-28 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:46 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2008/5/28 David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 11:11 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 - Original Message -
 From: David J Brooks
 Subject: Re: GFM roll call


 I'm a Crosby fan, but, have been a wings fan since i was a kid.

 Never was nor will be a Leaf fan.

 You guys are talking about hockey, right?

 Ladies arm wrestling

 I thought Leaf made cameras?

They wrestle on weekends for extra 

Dave

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Re: PESO: Determination

2008-05-28 Thread David Savage
2008/5/26 Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Well done, Dave. Several years back, I sold two framed prints of such a scene 
 to a buyer who said she felt it was absolutely spiritual. With that, she 
 ordered another for a friend.

Selling photos?

What an interesting concept. I'll have to try it some day. LOL

 I think yours is a better shot.

Thanks Jack. I appreciate it.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: PESO: Determination

2008-05-28 Thread David Savage
2008/5/26 David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Thats not Canada. Rocks are to soft and no snow.:-)

Alberta is a soft province :-)

 Seriously, great shot. The contrast in rock and tree really stands out.

 Wall worthy.

I think this one will be close to the top of my next print run.

Thanks for looking  commenting.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: PESO: Determination

2008-05-28 Thread David Savage
Thanks Bob.

Cheers,

Dave

2008/5/26 Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I like the way you've handled the colours in this.

 Bob

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Re: Determination

2008-05-28 Thread David Savage
Thanks Ken.

Cheers,

Dave

2008/5/26 Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Nice capture Dave.

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

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Re: PESO - Two Sides of Love

2008-05-28 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:49 AM, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Oy.  looks like only one side to me.  they all look pretty unhappy.

The Asian couple look pretty content to me, especially the young lady,
who has a somewhat blissful look on her face.

The young Asian man doesn't look exctatic, but he doesn't look pissed
like the other fellow...

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Re: Prairie Country

2008-05-28 Thread Christine Aguila
That's very nice, Dave.  Fun little out-building sitting all by itself on 
the left.  Where did you go in the US  Canada?   Cheers, Christine


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Subject: PESO: Prairie Country


 G'day All,

 I'm slowly making my way through shots from my holiday last year to
 the US  Canada with the aim of putting together a photo book.

 Here's another one from that trip (~150kb):

 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2357/2530269037_026197a427_o.jpg

 K10D, FA 31mm f1.8, 1/60 @ f16, ISO 100, Lightroomed ;-)

 Any  all comments welcome.

 Cheers,

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Re: PESO - Dayton-esque

2008-05-28 Thread Christine Aguila
Nice, but I agree with everyone about the dark vertical stem.  Cheers, 
Christine


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Subject: PESO - Dayton-esque


 It may seem like I have fallen off the edge of the world, but I
 assure you that I am still alive.  I have been extremely busy with
 work this past while and have not been able to participate as I would
 like.  Hopefully, I'll be able to participate more.

 Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 135mm
 ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f/5.6, Handheld

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Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!

2008-05-28 Thread ann sanfedele
Christine Aguila wrote:

Like Jack, I'm all caught up in the excitement about the PDML trip to GFM, 
so I'd like to wish all those in route safe travels, a great time, and happy 
shooting.  Looking forward to the stories and photos. Maybe next year I'll 
join you all.

Drink a beer for me--I tend to like the darker ales! ;-)

Big cheers, Christine 



  

Ditto all of that -- well, except the part about the beer old tea 
and coffee totaller moi.

I'll be thinking about you - and am glad I'm in the same time zone 
incase you guys actually miss me.

(if you don't know of which I speak, you aren't in the GFM loop :))

ann sad


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Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!

2008-05-28 Thread ann sanfedele
Scott Loveless wrote:

ann sanfedele wrote:
  

I'll be thinking about you - and am glad I'm in the same time zone 
incase you guys actually miss me.



That never stopped us before.

  

Hey - I'm happy to get the call - just not at 3 AM :)

ann

BTW

I'm going to Boston to see a friend on Monday JUne 2nd  - having secured 
a $3.00 round trip
bus ticket!  that's to reward myself for not being able to go to GFM 
my budget for the entire trip
is $60.00  for 3 days.  

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Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!

2008-05-28 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 11:30 AM, frank theriault
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 On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:52 AM, Christine  Aguila
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Like Jack, I'm all caught up in the excitement about the PDML trip to GFM,
 so I'd like to wish all those in route safe travels, a great time, and happy
 shooting.  Looking forward to the stories and photos. Maybe next year I'll
 join you all.

 Drink a beer for me--I tend to like the darker ales! ;-)

 Big cheers, Christine

 BIG HINT:  If Norm Baugher asks for your phone number, don't give it.

 You've been warned.

 Ask Cotty if you don't believe me!

But don't call Cotty, he won't answer

Dave

 cheers,
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Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!

2008-05-28 Thread Scott Loveless
frank theriault wrote:
 On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:52 AM, Christine  Aguila
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Like Jack, I'm all caught up in the excitement about the PDML trip to GFM,
 so I'd like to wish all those in route safe travels, a great time, and happy
 shooting.  Looking forward to the stories and photos. Maybe next year I'll
 join you all.

 Drink a beer for me--I tend to like the darker ales! ;-)

 Big cheers, Christine
 
 BIG HINT:  If Norm Baugher asks for your phone number, don't give it.
 
 You've been warned.
 
 Ask Cotty if you don't believe me!

You better give your number to me.  You know, for safe keeping.

 cheers,
 frank
 
 ps:  safe travels to all (even Scott who was mean to me yesterday)  ;-)

Sorry, Frank.  I'll try to be nice to you once or twice to make up for 
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Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!

2008-05-28 Thread David Savage
2008/5/28 ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 (it's called sponge off your friends)

Hey, that's what I did at GFM last year :-)

Cheers,

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Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!

2008-05-28 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:52 AM, Christine  Aguila
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Like Jack, I'm all caught up in the excitement about the PDML trip to GFM,
 so I'd like to wish all those in route safe travels, a great time, and happy
 shooting.  Looking forward to the stories and photos. Maybe next year I'll
 join you all.

 Drink a beer for me--I tend to like the darker ales! ;-)

 Big cheers, Christine

BIG HINT:  If Norm Baugher asks for your phone number, don't give it.

You've been warned.

Ask Cotty if you don't believe me!

cheers,
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Re: PESO -- Grand Avenue Bridge II was [Re: PESO -- Grand Avenue Bridge]

2008-05-28 Thread P. J. Alling
As oil is clearly now in a bubble, (like tech, ah, dot com really, 10 
years ago, and housing up until a couple of years ago), I expect that 
the price of oil, and gasoline, will drop sometime in the relatively 
near future.  All bubbles burst in the long run.  (Just remember what 
Keynes said about the long run).  So I doubt there will be that large a 
resurgence in Bikes vs Cars.  The cars will just be smaller...

Scott Loveless wrote:
 P. J. Alling wrote:
   
 It's a swing bridge, and is slated for renovation sometime in the next 
 two years, (as soon as they finish rebuilding the bridge about 1/2 mile 
 down river).  I usually fear for these old monuments as the results have 
 been about 50% complete removal and replacement. The entire road 
 parallel to the river at that point is slated to be changed from 2 lanes 
 to 4.  Now mind you this is to handle the increased traffic, which was 
 wholly the result of the other bridge being reconstructed...

 
 Give it a couple years.  That 4 lane road will feel roomy, what with 4 
 or 5 bikes to every car.

 Nice photo, BTW.

   


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Re: OT:sort-of off topic self promotion

2008-05-28 Thread P. J. Alling
Kind of like the reverse of Baseball?

Bob Sullivan wrote:
 I thought they were all Canadian teams, just on loan to us down here.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 5:55 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:46 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Cory Waters wrote:
   
 David J Brooks wrote:
 
 So I can't say its crap here.??

   
   You *could* but that would be mean.  Canadians are NOT mean.

 You never know. They're in a bad mood now because some sort of hockey
 championship is going on and there aren't any Canadian teams in it this
 year.
   
 Once every 20-30 years, we let you guys go for it.

 Seems only fair.:-)

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Re: PESO: Prairie Country

2008-05-28 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:23 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 G'day All,

 I'm slowly making my way through shots from my holiday last year to
 the US  Canada with the aim of putting together a photo book.

 Here's another one from that trip (~150kb):

 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2357/2530269037_026197a427_o.jpg

 K10D, FA 31mm f1.8, 1/60 @ f16, ISO 100, Lightroomed ;-)

 Any  all comments welcome.

Big sky country...

Gorgeous, beautiful captured.

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Re: PESO - Hot Tea

2008-05-28 Thread P. J. Alling
I like that one, it's simple but effective.

frank theriault wrote:
 For a cool morning:

 http://tinyurl.com/4f2cj4

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SDQTW_BRrfI/CFo/LMM_Oq4FhPk/s1600-h/may_20_08+011.jpg

 Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO: Prairie Country

2008-05-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Overall I like the concept, but I think the OOF lines of the barbed  
wire in the foreground-lower portion of the frame are a bit too heavy  
and distracting. They draw my eye downwards and off the image.  
Creating a vignette combining blur and more darkening of that area,  
and maybe cropping a little off the top, might do the trick ... worth  
a try.

I'm still working my way through the 2006 trip to the UK!

Godfrey

On May 28, 2008, at 7:23 AM, David Savage wrote:

 I'm slowly making my way through shots from my holiday last year to
 the US  Canada with the aim of putting together a photo book.

 Here's another one from that trip (~150kb):

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Re: K20D Hot Pixels

2008-05-28 Thread Joseph Tainter
Apparently a firmware problem.
We'll see.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=28085894

William Robb

-

I hope it is indeed firmware. (Pentax corporate HQ is not always honest, 
and Pentax reps are not always knowledgeable.)

I shot some RAW photos the other day with my K20D using two-second 
delay. Looking at the images in Pentax's browser (no RAW conversion), I 
don't see the hot pixel problem that others have seen.

BTW, Paul, this link is an example of why it is worth looking 
occasionally at dpreview, despite the admitted annoyances of that site. 
News such as this shows up much earlier there than it does here.

Joe

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Re: PESO: Prairie Country

2008-05-28 Thread Bruce Dayton
This one almost grabs me.  I'm trying to decide what doesn't quite
work.  It might be the fence in the lower left - perhaps it gets a
bit lost there or weakens the composition.  Also could be that near
horizon point, the buildings are just too small to grab my attention
- making the grass be the subject.  It needs something else, me
thinks.

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Wednesday, May 28, 2008, 7:23:43 AM, you wrote:

DS G'day All,

DS I'm slowly making my way through shots from my holiday last year to
DS the US  Canada with the aim of putting together a photo book.

DS Here's another one from that trip (~150kb):

DS http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2357/2530269037_026197a427_o.jpg

DS K10D, FA 31mm f1.8, 1/60 @ f16, ISO 100, Lightroomed ;-)

DS Any  all comments welcome.

DS Cheers,

DS Dave




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Re: K20D Hot Pixels

2008-05-28 Thread pnstenquist
I agree. I go to dpreview myself from time to time. I realize it has some 
value. But so many things get blown out of proportion that the annoyance factor 
is huge.

The initial posts about the hot pixel/mirror lockup link seem to suggest that 
the hot pixel/mirror lockup problem only happens when shooting jpegs. Or 
perhaps it's only visible then due to conversion fixes? In any case, I've used 
mirror lockup a few times with no visible problems. However, I only shoot RAW. 
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Apparently a firmware problem.
 We'll see.
 http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=28085894
 
 William Robb
 
 -
 
 I hope it is indeed firmware. (Pentax corporate HQ is not always honest, 
 and Pentax reps are not always knowledgeable.)
 
 I shot some RAW photos the other day with my K20D using two-second 
 delay. Looking at the images in Pentax's browser (no RAW conversion), I 
 don't see the hot pixel problem that others have seen.
 
 BTW, Paul, this link is an example of why it is worth looking 
 occasionally at dpreview, despite the admitted annoyances of that site. 
 News such as this shows up much earlier there than it does here.
 
 Joe
 
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Re: format SDHC card error

2008-05-28 Thread P. J. Alling
If your K10D firmware is up to date, I would.

Toine wrote:
 I got my first SDHC card (4GB) for the K10D.
 If I format the card the K10D displays memory card error. I don't
 think it's normal but it does write images normally...

 Should I return it?

   


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Re: PESO - Dayton-esque

2008-05-28 Thread Ken Waller
Very nice Bruce, but I find the central vertical line competing somewhat for 
my eye.
I like the simplicity  colorful background.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO - Dayton-esque


 It may seem like I have fallen off the edge of the world, but I
 assure you that I am still alive.  I have been extremely busy with
 work this past while and have not been able to participate as I would
 like.  Hopefully, I'll be able to participate more.

 Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 135mm
 ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f/5.6, Handheld

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5968.htm


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Re: GFM and the Carolina's in summer

2008-05-28 Thread Ken Waller
Let me know if you go - I'll point out some of my favs.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: GFM and the Carolina's in summer


 On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Have you thought about the east coast of Lake Michigan?  Ken Waller 
 Mark Cassino's territory?

 Or the Upper Peninsula of Michigan - should be familiar to you Dave since
 you had so many traverses thru in the winter.

 Yup, made what 5-6 trips i think. Would not mind seeing that area and
 NOT having to shoot through the wind shield.
 I';ll mull that over with the treasury department. I could prpbably
 talk her into a 2-3 day drive tour and come home via Thunder Bay

 LOL

 Dave

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 - Original Message -
 From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: GFM and the Carolina's in summer


 Dave,
 The Smokey Mountain National Park will be very busy.
 I imagine bumper to bumper traffic over the mountains thru the gap (RT
 441).
 Gatlinburg is worse with tourists and Pigeon Forge is 'the pits'.
 Gas prices should put all of the Ohio valley there this summer for a
 local vacation.
 Have you thought about the east coast of Lake Michigan?  Ken Waller 
 Mark Cassino's territory?
 I could do that.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 11:52 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 I';m still a bit miffed at having to miss this years gala, and have
 tossed
 this idea around with the treasury department.

 Once school is out for July and August, the only work i'll have is
 my horse shows, weekends, but i do have 2 maybe 3 free weekends to do
 some travel.

 I suppose i could also do it during the week, now that i think about 
 it.

 I know what the are is like this time of year, lots of weather
 changes, lots of mist in the hills, etc,
 but whats it like in that neck of the woods in summer.

 Would one still get the ahhh factor.?? How busy would the parkway
 be. I'll assume very.

 Dave


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Re: PESO - A week-end story of enablement

2008-05-28 Thread Ken Waller
 Sadly, due to acid rain and global warming, loons are on the decline.

Not from what I can tell in Michigan - I'm seeing them in places I've never 
seen them before.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject: Re: PESO - A week-end story of enablement


 On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ooohhh!

 I love canoes.  We have a lovely red canoe we got each
 other as a 10th anniversary present, almost 21 years
 ago, and we love going out in it.  Last summer we had
 my grandfather's 1906-vintage Old Town rehabbed, and
 it is lovely.  I'll have to post some pics sometime.

 Your Black-Throated Diver looks very similar to one of
 our Common Loons.  The loons' calls are amazing and
 lovely on a quiet lake.

 You're right there, Rick.  The loons' calls (there are several)
 virtually define the wilderness in this part of the world.  They're
 haunting and beautiful.  I have memories of camping and cottaging on
 quiet lakes north of Toronto and Montreal, waking up at sunrise to
 hear their call.  In most cases they were several kilometres away, but
 the call carries across the glassy-still water, echoing off the
 surrounding hills.

 I remember one cool summer morning as a child, sitting with my father
 at the end of a dock, watching a loon dive for minutes at a time, then
 surface hundreds of metres away.  We sat there for a good hour
 watching it, not saying a word to each other, just pointing every few
 minutes when it surfaced:  There it is!, then remaining quiet again
 until the next sighting.

 It was pretty cool.

 Sadly, due to acid rain and global warming, loons are on the decline.

 cheers,
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Re: OT: Mini SD Cards

2008-05-28 Thread Bruce Dayton
I have one 4gb and two 2gb micro SD cards - I got them for use with
cell phones but have put them in adapters and tried them in the K10D.
They worked just fine there.  All mine are Kingston brand.

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Wednesday, May 28, 2008, 6:41:24 AM, you wrote:

DJM Has anyone used this type of card?  does it work?

DJM http://www.woot.com/




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Re: Prairie Country

2008-05-28 Thread Ken Waller
Nice as is but I think I would have tried different perspectives.  Something 
odd about the fence appearing to end in the sky. A higher perspective 
putting the top of the fence below the tree line might be an improvement.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO: Prairie Country


 G'day All,

 I'm slowly making my way through shots from my holiday last year to
 the US  Canada with the aim of putting together a photo book.

 Here's another one from that trip (~150kb):

 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2357/2530269037_026197a427_o.jpg

 K10D, FA 31mm f1.8, 1/60 @ f16, ISO 100, Lightroomed ;-)

 Any  all comments welcome.

 Cheers,

 Dave


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Re: PESO - A week-end story of enablement

2008-05-28 Thread Ken Waller
 What I've heard is that global warming is thought to be a major
 contributor to algal bloom in some Canadian lakes.

In Michigan, I've heard Algae bloom also blammed on fertyilizer run off.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PESO - A week-end story of enablement


 On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 9:52 AM, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2008/5/28 frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Sadly, due to acid rain and global warming, loons are on the decline.

 I don't think global warming affects the loons in particular. AFAIK,
 they're flexible in their climate requirements. Acid rain does,
 however, because it diminish the fish populations that loons feed on.

 What I've heard is that global warming is thought to be a major
 contributor to algal bloom in some Canadian lakes.  Since loons hunt
 fish by sight, if they can't see to catch fish, they won't populate
 those lakes with algal bloom, thus squeezing them out of longtime
 habitats.

 cheers,
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List focus shift (WAS: Re: K20D Hot Pixels)

2008-05-28 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
BTW, Paul, this link is an example of why it is worth looking 
occasionally at dpreview, despite the admitted annoyances of that site. 
News such as this shows up much earlier there than it does here.

Today I was just thinking that this list has somehow shifted its focus since 
the digital era took over.
Before there were few places to talk about Pentax equipment, so this was a main 
topic. But the digital brought also more 'competitors' and people here seems a 
bot bored of too technical (and lots of times closer to computers rather than 
photography)  so this kind of threads are not as popular anymore.
So we find much more PESOs, GMFs, OTs, so the list is more about people talking 
on photography and showing what they do, that normally own (or used to) Pentax 
equipment.

No more bloody fights (except when the magic words arise: 'aperture simulator') 
but also no more guru's anticipating future developments...that's why people 
has to look elsewhere to find it and, eventually, report it here in case 
someone is still interested.

Regards,
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Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!

2008-05-28 Thread Ken Waller
 Hey - I'm happy to get the call - just not at 3 AM :)

Sounds almost like a challenge to me.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!


 Scott Loveless wrote:
 
ann sanfedele wrote:
  

I'll be thinking about you - and am glad I'm in the same time zone 
incase you guys actually miss me.



That never stopped us before.

  

 Hey - I'm happy to get the call - just not at 3 AM :)
 
 ann
 
 BTW
 
 I'm going to Boston to see a friend on Monday JUne 2nd  - having secured 
 a $3.00 round trip
 bus ticket!  that's to reward myself for not being able to go to GFM 
 my budget for the entire trip
 is $60.00  for 3 days.  
 
 (it's called sponge off your friends)


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Re: Another flash topic: Colortemp and filters

2008-05-28 Thread P. J. Alling
Color balancing flash filters are extinct, special effect flash filters 
still have their place even in the digital world.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes. Flash filters are extinct.
  -- Original message --
 From: Ken Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 So. I've heard some talk about using filters on the flash to ballanse
 the colour temp better
   
 Couldn't you achieve the same effect in post processing if you shoot RAW?

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

 - Original Message - 
 From: Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Another flash topic: Colortemp and filters


 
 First some chit chat. For the unpatient readers: My question is at
 bottom of the post.

 I'm not much of a flash photographer. Generally I don't like flash.
 Bad flash photography is bad photography. But now I'm debating to buy
 a good all purpose flash, and see if I can make some decent use of it.
 I already have another thread going about Better Beamer and use of
 flash bracket.
 One of the weak side of flash photography is the mixed lighting it
 sometimes gives. To ballanse of the amount of light is one thing. The
 colour temp is another.
 So. I've heard some talk about using filters on the flash to ballanse
 the colour temp better.

 Ok. That's the background. My question is.
 How and where do I find suitable filters and filter solutions for at
 Pentax 540? Are there any dedicated units out there, or do I put
 filters inside ie. a Lumiquest soft box?
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Re: GESO: Fascinated with crops

2008-05-28 Thread Boris Liberman
Great many thanks, Ann. It feels almost as if we're talking in person 
and I am learning from you!

Much, much appreciated.

Boris


ann sanfedele wrote:
 Boris - I started with clicking on the most recent post in my mail box 
 which was Godder's comment on
 this one
 
 http://boris.isra-shop.com/crops_2008/content/IGP08267_large.html
 
 That is the 4th - readinga cross and then down on the index file)
 I pretty much concur that it is the best whatever that means :)
 
 and I like one of the closeups as well -  the 6th one (1st in second 
 row) and the vertical closeup
 which is the 12th
 6 is here
 http://boris.isra-shop.com/crops_2008/content/IGP08270_large.html
 
 12 is here
 http://boris.isra-shop.com/crops_2008/content/IGP08357_large.html
 
 The 14th works as it is, although it isnt'a s interseting to me 
 personally as the others I mentioned.
 
 13 needs a bit of a crop (ohoh, pun alert!)  and 15 - well the light is 
 great but the background is too busy
 some cropping here .
 
 I think those could tell the whole story...
 
 here is the problem for most of them - the out of focus but not blurred 
 out enough backgrounds on most
 and the very washed out rim of sky beyond .
 
 I'd prune this collection to 5 or 6 and then I think it would tell the 
 story with a greater impact.
 
 Well - ya said to be brutal, my dear! :)
 
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Re: PESO - Dayton-esque

2008-05-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On May 27, 2008, at 9:44 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

 Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 135mm
 ISO 400, 1/500 sec @ f/5.6, Handheld

 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5968.htm

I like it, but I think that central stripe behind the flower should  
be softened or lightened just a little bit.

Godfrey

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Re: format SDHC card error

2008-05-28 Thread Toine
And I did. swapped it for another brand and now it's working. I now
have a Transcend class 6 card (very fast).

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 6:16 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If your K10D firmware is up to date, I would.

 Toine wrote:
 I got my first SDHC card (4GB) for the K10D.
 If I format the card the K10D displays memory card error. I don't
 think it's normal but it does write images normally...

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Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!

2008-05-28 Thread Tim Øsleby
2008/5/28 ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Scott Loveless wrote:

ann sanfedele wrote:


I'll be thinking about you - and am glad I'm in the same time zone
incase you guys actually miss me.



That never stopped us before.



 Hey - I'm happy to get the call - just not at 3 AM :)


Is 4:AM better?

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Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!

2008-05-28 Thread Norman Baugher
Frank, are you listed in Toronto?
Norm

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Subject: Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:52 AM, Christine  Aguila
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Like Jack, I'm all caught up in the excitement about the PDML trip to GFM,
 so I'd like to wish all those in route safe travels, a great time, and happy
 shooting.  Looking forward to the stories and photos. Maybe next year I'll
 join you all.

 Drink a beer for me--I tend to like the darker ales! ;-)

 Big cheers, Christine

BIG HINT:  If Norm Baugher asks for your phone number, don't give it.

You've been warned.

Ask Cotty if you don't believe me!

cheers,
frank

ps:  safe travels to all (even Scott who was mean to me yesterday)  ;-)

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Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!

2008-05-28 Thread Scott Loveless
Tim Øsleby wrote:
 2008/5/28 ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Scott Loveless wrote:

 ann sanfedele wrote:


 I'll be thinking about you - and am glad I'm in the same time zone
 incase you guys actually miss me.


 That never stopped us before.



 Hey - I'm happy to get the call - just not at 3 AM :)

 
 Is 4:AM better?
 
Works for me.  What's your number, Tim?

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Re: PESO - A week-end story of enablement

2008-05-28 Thread AlunFoto
2008/5/28 frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 What I've heard is that global warming is thought to be a major
 contributor to algal bloom in some Canadian lakes.  Since loons hunt
 fish by sight, if they can't see to catch fish, they won't populate
 those lakes with algal bloom, thus squeezing them out of longtime
 habitats.

hmmm... This is rather complex...

Algal blooms are most likely to occur after the springtime
full-circulation (in temperate/boreal regions, at least, which
includes most of Canada and Norway) because the water mixing brings up
fresh nutrients from the sediments and bottom water. To simplify
things a bit, let's consider that the amount of nutrients
redistributed in the water column is constant irrespective of
temperature. In most lakes where loons would be able to hunt in the
first place, it is also reasonable to assume that the amount of
nutrients is the limiting factor for algal growth irrespective of
temperature.

Even with these factors held constant, many things can happen when the
temperature goes up. One is that the full-circulation happens earlier
in spring, and thereby shifts the bloom to a different time relative
to the nesting season.

Another thing is that you actually increase the algal production
_rate_. But this also means the algae will run out of nutrients more
quickly. So effectively the algal bloom will become more intense, and
thus reduce visibility more than with lower temperatures, but be of
shorter duration.

Yet another effect of increased temperature will be a shift of
behaviour in the loon's prey species. Most of the charr species, for
example, prefer cold water and will move to deeper waters when the
temperature rise. As will the graylings and other salmonids. This
effect may be just as significant as the blooming, at least in
salmonid-dominated lakes.

On the whole, I think you may be right that global warming (or local
warming) could affect the loons. But some observational data on loon
distribution would be nice... :-)

Anyway I think Ken has a good point too, that the nutrients required
for blooming may well have been supplied by human activity in the
first place. I know there's a campaign going on towards farmers to
stop them from plowing their fields in the autumn. By waiting until
spring, they reduce the run-off of nutrients significantly. This is
both beneficial for the recipient water system and for the farmer
himself because it reduce the need for artificial fertiliser in the
growth season.

Jostein


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Re: Just ordered the KatzEye screen

2008-05-28 Thread Tim Øsleby
Thanks Godfrey. Valuable info

MaritimTim

2008/5/28 Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 ON the DS, I found the screen quality not quite what I wanted for
 manual focusing as, at the time I got it, I was using older manual
 focus lenses more of the time. I wanted something with less clutter
 and a better focusing surface. My custom scribe lines were more of a
 while I'm doing this anyway kind of thing.

 I found the K10D screen to be as good for manual focusing as the
 KatzEye was on the DS, and also found that since I was using more
 recent, all AF lenses, that the additional markings for them were not
 as much of a distraction. (I still manually focus about the same
 amount of the time, but I often do so using the QS feature of the DA/
 DA* lenses rather than having to turn AF off.)

 I guess overall that by the time I had the K10D in my hands, it was
 no longer a priority worth spending $100+ to change.

 Godfrey


 On May 28, 2008, at 7:20 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

 I remember you used it at the DS, and was happy with it.
 Why didn't you get a new one for the K10/20D? Any particular reason?

 MaritimTim

 2008/5/28 Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 My custom screen for the *ist DS was made without focusing aid,
 just a
 few scribed lines for horizontal/vertical reference and framing. I
 was
 quite happy with it.


 On May 28, 2008, at 6:50 AM, Axel Belinfante wrote:
 Did you get it to avoid clutter,
 or to improve ease of (manual?) focusing?

 I guess I'm echoing Tim here - wondering whether
 there is a difference between ease of manual focus on
 the matte of the Pentax and the KatzEye screens.


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Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!

2008-05-28 Thread Christine Aguila
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:52 AM, Christine  Aguila
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Like Jack, I'm all caught up in the excitement about the PDML trip to 
 GFM,
 so I'd like to wish all those in route safe travels, a great time, and 
 happy
 shooting.  Looking forward to the stories and photos. Maybe next year 
 I'll
 join you all.

 Drink a beer for me--I tend to like the darker ales! ;-)

 Big cheers, Christine

 BIG HINT:  If Norm Baugher asks for your phone number, don't give it.

 You've been warned.

 Ask Cotty if you don't believe me!

 cheers,
 frank

 ps:  safe travels to all (even Scott who was mean to me yesterday)  ;-)

Well, I'm clearly not in the GFM loop:  I don't get the time zone thing, 
don't know who Norm Baugher is, but I'm new, so it's to be expected. :-) 
But I'll hold close your warning about Norm: easily handled anyway.  Giving 
out bogus phone #'s is a woman's best strategy.  I'll just give him the 
numerical version of 1-NOW-AYB-UDZO ;-).
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Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!

2008-05-28 Thread AlunFoto
2008/5/28 Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Is 4:AM better?

 Works for me.  What's your number, Tim?


A couple of rascals phoned up Cotty a couple of years ago at what was
reasonable party time at GFM. Which of course was reasonable sleeping
time in GMT. :-)

Cotty is going this year, though.


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Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!

2008-05-28 Thread Scott Loveless
AlunFoto wrote:
 2008/5/28 Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Is 4:AM better?

 Works for me.  What's your number, Tim?

 
 A couple of rascals phoned up Cotty a couple of years ago at what was
 reasonable party time at GFM. Which of course was reasonable sleeping
 time in GMT. :-)
 
 Cotty is going this year, though.
 
I was present for the saying of ni!  But don't tell Cotty.  Any 
revenge he's come up with hasn't affected me just yet and I'd like to 
keep it that way.

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Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!

2008-05-28 Thread AlunFoto
Maybe I should give him a ring, then? Around breakfast? :-)

Jostein

2008/5/28 Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 AlunFoto wrote:
 2008/5/28 Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Is 4:AM better?

 Works for me.  What's your number, Tim?


 A couple of rascals phoned up Cotty a couple of years ago at what was
 reasonable party time at GFM. Which of course was reasonable sleeping
 time in GMT. :-)

 Cotty is going this year, though.

 I was present for the saying of ni!  But don't tell Cotty.  Any
 revenge he's come up with hasn't affected me just yet and I'd like to
 keep it that way.

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Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!

2008-05-28 Thread Cotty
On 28/5/08, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:

I was present for the saying of ni!  But don't tell Cotty.  Any 
revenge he's come up with hasn't affected me just yet and I'd like to 
keep it that way.

Like I'm not looking at the list or anything right now...

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Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!

2008-05-28 Thread Cotty
On 28/5/08, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

But don't call Cotty, he won't answer

Har - my phone will be with me and may even be making a call or two

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Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!

2008-05-28 Thread Cotty
On 27/5/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

Like Jack, I'm all caught up in the excitement about the PDML trip to GFM, 
so I'd like to wish all those in route safe travels, a great time, and happy 
shooting.  Looking forward to the stories and photos. Maybe next year I'll 
join you all.

Drink a beer for me--I tend to like the darker ales! ;-)

Sitting at Newark waiting for my flight to Charlotte. I'll try and get
some pics up by Saturday night.


Best,

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Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!

2008-05-28 Thread Cotty
On 28/5/08, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

don't know who Norm Baugher is

Mark!

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Re: List focus shift (WAS: Re: K20D Hot Pixels)

2008-05-28 Thread John Francis
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 09:46:24AM -0700, Jaume Lahuerta wrote:
 BTW, Paul, this link is an example of why it is worth looking 
 occasionally at dpreview, despite the admitted annoyances of that site. 
 News such as this shows up much earlier there than it does here.
 
 Today I was just thinking that this list has somehow shifted its focus since 
 the digital era took over.
 Before there were few places to talk about Pentax equipment, so this was a 
 main topic. But the digital brought also more 'competitors' and people here 
 seems a bot bored of too technical (and lots of times closer to computers 
 rather than photography)  so this kind of threads are not as popular anymore.
 So we find much more PESOs, GMFs, OTs, so the list is more about people 
 talking on photography and showing what they do, that normally own (or used 
 to) Pentax equipment.
 
 No more bloody fights (except when the magic words arise: 'aperture 
 simulator') but also no more guru's anticipating future developments...that's 
 why people has to look elsewhere to find it and, eventually, report it here 
 in case someone is still interested.

That's because digital SLRs are, by now, a mature technology.
Pentax addressed most of the complaints about the *ist-D in
the K10D, and polished off a few more with the K20D.  Apart
from the full-frame sensor (non-)issue, there's not a lot
wrong with the K20D for almost everybody almost all the time.
The advent of the SDM lenses removed another potential source
of complaints, too.

So while the K20D isn't perfect, it will do for now.  Pentax
have intimated they are working on a model beyond the K20D,
so there's room for speculating on future developments (will
it have better build quality, a faster frame rate, faster AF,
etc., etc.).  But most people don't care, because what they
can get now is more than good enough to be useful.


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Re: Wishing the GFMers a great time!

2008-05-28 Thread Scott Loveless
Cotty wrote:
 On 28/5/08, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 I was present for the saying of ni!  But don't tell Cotty.  Any 
 revenge he's come up with hasn't affected me just yet and I'd like to 
 keep it that way.
 
 Like I'm not looking at the list or anything right now...
 
Crap.

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Re: A mildly amusing sign

2008-05-28 Thread P. J. Alling
My how 16th century French...
(65 rooms in the Louvre, but nary a lou to be found, originally...)

Bob W wrote:
 http://www.web-options.com/IMAGE_00026.jpg

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Re: The missing factor in K10D + Sigma EF500 flash metering: Distance

2008-05-28 Thread P. J. Alling
I believe the DS2 was pretty much the same, as far as hardware was 
concerned, the same as the DS which supported both Analog and Digital TTL.

Adam Maas wrote:
 Actually, that's not the case, the *istDS2 was the last camera from
 Pentax to support plain TTL (IIRC it used the PZ-era Digital TTL spec
 rather than the LX-era Analog TTL), the Samsung GX-1S was the last
 production camera to support it (It lasted longer than its sibling,
 the DS2).

 -Adam

 On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:00 AM, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Rick,
 The *istD was the last camera to support the old analogue TTL. For TTL
 flash with K10D you need a P-TTL compatible flash.

 Jostein

 2008/5/22 Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 I was wondering why the flash exposures I get with my
 K10D and Sigma EF500 DG Super aren't as reliable as
 those I got in the hazy past with my PZ-1(p) and
 ancient (but TTL capable) Sunpak flash.

 So I repeated an experiment I had performed with the
 PZ-1p and Sunpak:  I had two targets of similar shade,
 one close (~1.5m) and one distant (~5m) in the same
 ambient light in the same room.  Focusing on the near
 target and photographing it led to a perfectly exposed
 near target and underexposed distant target (which is
 as it should be).  Focusing on the distant target led
 to a perfectly exposed distant target and overexposed
 near target, even though the two targets had the same
 positions in the frame in the two situations.  This
 told me that the PZ-1(p) used distance information
 from the lens in calculating flash exposure.

 Last evening I performed the experiment with the K10D
 and Sigma flash.  No matter which target I focused on,
 the near target was always properly exposed and the
 distant target underexposed.  Thus it appears that
 this camera-flash combination does not use distance
 information in its flash exposure calculations.

 It would be interesting if someone with a Pentax 540
 flash would try the same experiment.  Is it the camera
 or the Sigma (reverse-engineered) flash that is unable
 to use the distance information?

 Rick


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Re: 20 Pentax lenses tested on K20D by Chasseur D'images

2008-05-28 Thread P. J. Alling
I guess you always decline when the ask you to drop by for tea...

Tim Øsleby wrote:
 Pooping in you own nest? Stupid thing to do.
 I prefer pooping in the neighbours well.

 MaritimTim

 2008/5/22 AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
 2008/5/21 Tim Øsleby [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Underexposing also gives more ISO noise,
 so this makes it a trade off situation between noise or fringing.
 Life ain't easy. The best thing is often to avoid the highlights.
   
 Life ain't easy. :-)

 In my opinion, the most salient point is as you say, to avoid the
 highlights. Or perhaps even better, to contemplate the psychologial
 implications of an unbendable urge to photograph backlit twigs at
 f/2.8. I'd say the disposition of Fotozone looks unhealthy... :-)

 It is also worth noting that Fotozone have no mention of even
 considering the same properties for comparable lenses from Nikon and
 Canon. I've checked. And the sample photos does not include scenes
 where PF may emerge. Until the next test of a similar lens from the
 big two, I guess it's better to think that this property is something
 hitherto unknown to Fotozone, and that a DA* attached to a K10D from
 Pentax just happened to be the first lens/camera combo they made such
 considerations for. If they ignore PF testing for other brands in the
 future, however, they'll pretty much be as the ornithologist would
 say, pooping in their own nest. :-)

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Re: A mildly amusing sign

2008-05-28 Thread P. J. Alling
The stream breaks up into discreet pieces, so it would take extremely 
bad luck to have that happen...

ann sanfedele wrote:
 frank theriault wrote:

   
 On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 3:23 AM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

 
 http://www.web-options.com/IMAGE_00026.jpg


   
 I heard if one pees on the third rail of an electric railway or
 subway, they'll get electricuted (I've also heard that's an urban myth
 with no basis in fact).  So if one really does piss on the indicated
 platforms and electricutes one's self, will those who put up that sign
 be liable?

 Hilarious sign!

 cheers,
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Re: A mildly amusing sign

2008-05-28 Thread P. J. Alling
Electric fences are quiet, how shall I say this, fragile.  I'm surprised 
you didn't do permanent damage to the transformer.

Scott Loveless wrote:
 Steve Desjardins wrote:
   
 They tested this one on Mythbusters.  The stream breaks up into droplets
 before it makes contact with the rail so there is not continuous
 electrical path. 

 
 The transformer for an electric fence is designed for high voltage and 
 low amperage.  It's painful but it won't typically injure someone.  If 
 you're brave (stupid) enough you can grab one and see how long you can 
 stand to hold on.  I know.  I've done it.

   


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